Sept. 1, 2024

From Egypt to the World: Hossam Hashim's Global Education Journey

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In this episode of "Living the Dream with Curveball," we are joined by Hossam Hashin, an influential figure in education, entrepreneurship, and pharmaceuticals. As the founder and CEO of Career Academic and Development Centers (CADC), Hossam has been instrumental in promoting global education and facilitating study abroad opportunities. Tune in to hear about his inspiring journey from a small city in Egypt to studying and working across multiple continents. Learn valuable tips for getting accepted into international programs, the benefits of studying abroad, and the future of global education.
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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Welcome, um, to the living the Dream podcast with curveball. Um, if you believe you can achieve chi chi, welcome to the living the Dream with Curveball podcast, a show where I interview guests that teach, motivate and inspire. Today, I am joined by Hossam Hashim.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Hossam has went across several continents, making a huge impact in education, entrepreneurship and pharmaceuticals.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>He is the founder and CEO of Career Academic and development centers, and they provide top notch education with their prestigious partners who are renowned global universities and schools. So we're going to be talking to him about everything that he's up to and the huge impact that he's making. So, Sam, thank you so much for joining me today.

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> Hossam Hashim>Thank you so much. I'm glad I'm here, and thanks for hosting.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Why don't you start off by telling everybody a little bit about yourself?

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> Hossam Hashim>Yeah, that's, uh, like, a good start. So, my name is Hossein Shaheen. I'm from Egypt. So when you are coming from, um, a small city in Egypt, um, it's a bit, uh, people are away from so many opportunities, so many chances, so many educational opportunities. So I was very lucky with my family. They were very open and they were searching always for better opportunities, not only for me, but also for my siblings. And, um, I went to an american school, and then I got really good score in Egypt. I went to pharmacy school. I graduated from faculty of pharmacy.

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> Hossam Hashim>And my, uh, journey to study abroad started, um, I started my first study abroad program with the US Department of State scholarship to study in the United States. And then it gets, um, more into, uh, like, Germany, Serbia, Switzerland. And then I get the scholarship in France, um, and then the Swedish Institute scholarship. And, uh, now, um, I have my own business, which is called career and academic development center, abbreviation, ah, for CATC.

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> Hossam Hashim>And my target is, uh, to promote global education and facilitate the procedure for students who are interested to study abroad and pursue, um, their personal and academic development abroad. That's in a nutshell.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Yeah. So kind of tell us about the, uh, CaCD and kind of tell us exactly what you do and why you decided to start it.

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> Hossam Hashim>I decided to start it because I was, uh, studying abroad since, uh, 2011. Um, and when every time I go back to Egypt, I really had, uh, this, um, kind of, um, you know, exclamatory faces of everyone when they know about, oh, how did you make it for the US?

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> Hossam Hashim>How did you get accepted in this university? How did you find this internship? How did you get accepted in this scholarship? How did you know about that? What is the resume?

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> Hossam Hashim>What is the motivation letter. We don't know anything about that. And I uh, went to France on a scholarship. It's called excellence, where I studied my MBA. And in the MBA, uh, you study how to start up your own business, how to make, to make up a company or start uh, uh, your own company. And I decided to make my project for uh, a company that could facilitate the procedure for international students like myself who want to study abroad and apply for scholarships as well. So this was the idea. But to make it real, I really needed some uh, partners to be credible. Um, I target people who are living um, around the world. And when you are global you don't have an office in each country and people would have really some concerns, uh, about your credibility. So I started to build on my credibility by partnerships. I signed um, contracts with universities in France, in the UK, in Germany. Now we signed as well with a Qs world ranking.

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> Hossam Hashim>And we have an access for more than 1500 universities around the world in almost in every country around the world. Um, and the credibility started from there. The social media as well was very good, um, like for the marketing, for the project. And I think the most important uh, element in this project is my personal experience. When people uh, when people like you go, they go to watch my videos and they see some videos I made about my previous experiences. I got accepted in Sweden, I got accepted in France, I went to the US, I went to Serbia, I went to Germany. And then they start to get kind of uh, confidence that they could do the same as I did before.

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> Hossam Hashim>Um, and now we really um, have really good.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Foundation.

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> Hossam Hashim>Uh, we have students from Saudi Arabia, from Bahrain, from Egypt, from Ethiopia, from South Africa, from Malaysia. So it's really growing and I'm really happy with uh, network that we are um, building right now with SkATC. So basically we connect students to universities and we promote programs of universities to the globe, especially uh, the world now is changing and they are looking for programs that are related to sustainability or there's 17 sustainable development goals. And we really promote programs in this sector and the scholarships as well.

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> Hossam Hashim>And we connect students and universities altogether. This is basically what we do. And we help students as well with their visa, with their accommodation, with uh, what they should do, uh, before leaving like in the form of pre departure orientation. Um, and the feedback so far is really amazing.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Well, talk about three things that a student can do if they want to get accepted in the exchange program.

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> Hossam Hashim>Uh, uh, maybe the first thing based on my previous experience is really uh, the personal development, uh, people, when they ask me now. Oh, you are lucky you got all these scholarships. And I was like, yes, it has maybe a bit of luck, but I really spent a lot of time and a lot of energy to improve myself, to improve my language, to, uh, reach my language to a really good level. So that when I have an interview in the american embassy, they would be impressed with my level of the language as a foreigner person or as a foreigner student. Uh, so this is something the personal development could be as well. How to talk when you have confidence in the interview or if you have confidence. So I really recommend students in their, um, like, you know, in their colleges or during college time. It's better really, to participate in student activities. Student activities really elevate the level of the communication, the presentation skills. Um, it kills your, like, if you are shy person, a shy person, it will kill this feeling in you. You will be more open, you will be more confident, uh, you will be able to really, uh, have this kind of spontaneous, uh, um, way, uh, of answering questions. And this is something very important, uh, when you apply for exchange programs or a scholarship, uh, maybe the second advice I could say is to really participate in volunteering. Scholarships, uh, are really made for good students who have really outstanding educational background. But on the same, um, on the same, like, on the other hand, actually, they look for students who are not nerds. They don't. Students who are going from classroom to their rooms and that's it. Or from the room to the classroom. No, they want students who is active, who could participate, um, in the community and during college. The volunteering and extracurricular activities inside or outside the university is something I really recommend students to do. And, uh, the last advice is to really focus on the academic level. I don't want you to be like, you know, super, super, uh, excellent. Uh, but very good would be fine, uh, because the scholarship committee will look at your file, um, holistically. And it's very important as well to have really good academic background. So maybe those are, um, the three advices that I could provide. The academic achievement, the, uh, volunteering and extracurricular activities, and also the personal development in terms of the communication skills, presentation skills and the way you talk to people.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Well, talk about what are some of the academic benefits for studying abroad?

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> Hossam Hashim>Uh, you know, this question would be different.

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> Hossam Hashim>Like, the answer would be different from a person to another person. But, ah, for me, coming from Egypt, our curriculum, um, in the school is really, uh, stubborn.

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> Hossam Hashim>It's based on m memorizing. You have to go to college. You have maybe a lab. But you have really to study a lot. You have to memorize. So, ah, for me, studying in Europe, for example, or in the US is super different. Um, in Europe, you are obligated to have an internship at least once during your academic program. Uh, this is something I didn't have in Egypt. Ah, uh, studying abroad inside, uh, your program. For example, when I was in France, we had three trips. We had a trip to Belgium, um, uh, Czech Republic, Italy, and then at the end of the program, the university itself, away from my program, nominated me to go for a program, a fourth program in Spain for sustainability. This is something we don't have, um, in our countries. So for me, as coming from this culture, this background, studying abroad is really kind, uh, of, um, I went to a different world. I didn't have, I didn't have this access, the access for all these opportunities and exploring the world, uh, in my region, when I really talk about the Middle east or Egypt specifically, um, so for me, the internship, it really improved a lot. My professional background. And I remember after graduation from the Sorbonne University in France, when I started to do my interviews, they asked me about, oh, how was your performance in your internship during the MBA? What did you do? What did you learn? So I felt that the internship part was really crucial and important, um, during my academic program, uh, in France, um, in addition to, they were very excited about, oh, how was the trip to Belgium? What did you learn? Because the trips to other countries, um, were, for a reason. In Italy, we learned about entrepreneurship, so we met experts in starting up a company in the Czech Republic. We learned how to start a business in eastern Europe. And the opportunities and the chances, uh, to build a business in eastern Europe and Czech Republic was a good example, uh, for that. And when we went to Belgium, it was more to learn about the arabian union, about the arabian parliament, the central bank of Europe, the economics of Europe, etcetera. This is something really I didn't have in Egypt. So that was really interesting. If I talk about the United States, um, as an example, in North America, for example, I remember I had my degree is pharmacy. So when I went to the US for a year, the scholarship blazed me in New Jersey for a reason, because it's the headquarter of pharmaceutical companies and they were right, because I had my internship in Novartis company, that's a big Swiss, uh, pharmaceutical company, and it was in the oncology department that I really wanted, uh, and I remember because of this program in the US and this internship, I was nominated to attend the biochem in Switzerland, in the headquarter of Novartis in Basel.

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> Hossam Hashim>And because of that I got my job in Egypt, in Novartis. I was really recruited because they were like, oh, he had like an interview. They were impressed, uh, with my experience, um, like in really young age in the US and Switzerland, and the big two headquarters for the same company.

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> Hossam Hashim>Uh, so if you think about it, you know, studying abroad will improve your language, it will improve your, uh, academic skills, your professional background, your, uh, your career. You're also, um, like, you know, the opportunity, you will be able to explore the other opportunities that you won't have an access. If you are coming from a region like myself, which is the Middle east, maybe another student who lives in the US or in Europe or in Asia, if you ask them this question, or if you asked him or her, maybe they would have, uh, a different answer.

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> Hossam Hashim>But this is based on, uh, my background.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>What are the top five cities and universities for studying internationally?

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> Hossam Hashim>Actually, that's a very good question because I got a lot of questions when students come to me and they want to study in the best or the best city or the best university, but because I studied really in many places, uh, um, it's never like that. You don't think about it this way. You think about the really different. Demography is really important, for sure. If you really want to be in a big city. Uh, it's different from, uh, when you are in a metropolitan area. It's different from an area that is in the middle of nowhere. You don't have the same chances, uh, as student.

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> Hossam Hashim>So maybe my advice is not the best five, but maybe I can advise, uh, the students to really try, uh, their best to be in a metropolitan city.

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> Hossam Hashim>Maybe it's not important to be in the capital, but a metropolitan city would be very beneficial.

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> Hossam Hashim>So if we give an example about, uh, France, Paris is a good location, Lyon is a good location, Marseille is a good location, because those cities are metropolitan cities. When you are in a metropolitan area, you have an access to more, uh, career opportunities, more job opportunities, more cultural, uh, diversity. So you will be able to meet as well a lot of people from different backgrounds and cultures. And this, uh, will make you feel kind of included. Like, you know, the feeling of inclusion is very important. So this is what I think. You really think about the demography, you think about the career opportunities, but there is no, uh, best, uh, universities or best cities.

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> Hossam Hashim>Think about the program, uh, what you are going to really learn in this program. So if you are going to study artificial intelligence in healthcare, for example, that's a very specialized program. Uh, it doesn't really, um, matter which city you're in. It doesn't matter which university you're in. The most important is that the university is accredited inside the, um, like, you know, in the country where you are in, um, because, you know, going to Sorbonne, for example, it's not meant for everyone. It's very difficult. A lot of students, they apply. Not everyone could be accepted in Harvard, right? Ah, not everyone could be accepted into Stanford or Cornell or Brown. Um, so I really don't think about it this way. The most important is the accreditation of the university and the career opportunities in the country and in the city.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>So what does the future of students studying abroad look like? Talk, uh, about that.

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> Hossam Hashim>The future is very good. Uh, and I can really is excellent, actually. Why I say this is because of many reasons. If you will talk about Europe, for example, Europe really has a lot, um, a lot of problems because of the shortage of human resources. And, uh, you can see the laws are changing.

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> Hossam Hashim>Sometimes governments are stubborn, or maybe the politics, sometimes, um, they have, uh, uh, some talks that could make some students really get afraid of something.

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> Hossam Hashim>But in the reality, the law, uh, so far is pro international students.

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> Hossam Hashim>Because the only way to attract human resources that are really skilled, that they would really, um, contribute to the community, to the economics or the economy of the country, and also would fulfill, um, or to fill the gaps of the human resources, um, the only way is to get more international students. You can see, uh, the United Kingdom, for example, for graduate, uh, students, if you have a bachelor or a master degree, they offer you, if you couldn't find a job, a two year graduate, uh, visa to stay in the UK to search for a job.

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> Hossam Hashim>And if you have a PhD, you will get a three year visa, graduate visa to stay in the country. And if you think about it, it's kind of a retention strategy to retain international students in the UK because they have shortage almost in all, uh, domains, including engineering, doctors, pharmacists, nurses, uh, you know, really a lot, a lot of, um, um, domains. If you think about, uh, France, they offer you one year, um, to stay after your graduation to search for a job.

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> Hossam Hashim>Uh, Germany, 18 months, one year and a half. The United States, if you are going to study stem, uh, like, you know, sciences, technology, mathematics, like these fields that the US, uh, really need, really needs, like, uh, because they have a lot of opportunities. You will be able to get, um, like an opportunity for three years to stay in the US.

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> Hossam Hashim>And when you really think about it. Also, as another example, Netherlands change at the low of nationality. They want international students to come, or people to come, work, study, work, and then they pay taxes. They really build their own career. And then in five years, you get the nationality, uh, without like, you know, without learning Dutch, for example, it's now not a mandatory element in the nationality application.

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> Hossam Hashim>And if we will talk about, you know, so many examples, we can talk for an hour about example, like so many examples. Uh, but that's why I really encourage the students to go chase opportunities. There are so many opportunities, uh, a lot of countries, they really need, uh, like, you know, international students to come. A lot of countries as well. Sometimes they don't have trust in the degrees, uh, international degree from, like in Europe, for example, they don't trust if you, sometimes, I'm just giving an example, it's not something official. But if they really don't trust the degree that you have from Egypt, for example, when you come to Europe and you have your own master or PhD from Europe, that's kind of a trust because you have a certificate, uh, from the government. And this is something really they like when you have a degree. And that's why as well, France, they have a law. If you are a student who has a degree from France, either master, PhD or a bachelor degree, you have a faster, uh, track to get the nationality.

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> Hossam Hashim>It's, it will add some points to you, uh, just because you have a degree from France.

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> Hossam Hashim>Uh, so this is the future that I see is really, really interesting for people who want to chase their dreams just to, if the, if you are looking for a better opportunity, better country, better standard, uh, like, you know, standards to live in. Uh, I really recommend and encourage students to go, uh, apply, uh, either like, you know, for scholarships or uh, on their own expenses. And I am sure they will find a huge return of investment for that.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>So if I wanted to join your international academic program, give me three tips that so I could be successful, uh.

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> Hossam Hashim>If you want to be successful, to really, uh, um, pass all the procedure. Uh, if you will talk about Katke, for example, we really, um, like choose students as well. Ah, we receive a request from students about what they want, etcetera, and then we, uh, meet to check how students answer their level of English. Uh, what, ah, they are looking for exactly what they want.

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> Hossam Hashim>So maybe the advices that I would give is the first, the first one is really to be, um, um, you really need to know what you want to do, right? You cannot just come to me and say, oh, I want to study abroad.

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> Hossam Hashim>If you don't have a plan of what you really want to study, where you want to study, at least, uh, you should have, ah, a short list of countries like I want to study, for example in France or Germany or France, Germany or uh, Belgium. Um, you really need to focus on um, the language skills. It's very important to have really good level of language. You will need this during the interview, uh, to apply for universities. Um, but by the way, in CADC we also prepare students for the interview. I don't want your English to be like a native. My English is not like natives. Uh, so I'm not expecting you to be in the level of a native person.

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> Hossam Hashim>But at least you really need to practice on the communication. You really need to be natural and spontaneous during, uh, answering the question. And this is kind of practice. So the language is very important, the documents are very important.

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> Hossam Hashim>Sometimes people, they come, they send me emails and they say, oh, I want to get a scholarship. But my, my GBA is super low. My GBA is like two or 1.9. I don't want an interview, I don't want to take an ilids exam or two exam.

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> Hossam Hashim>And this type of like this profile of students, we really don't help, we don't take them into our account.

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> Hossam Hashim>But if a student has really good, ah, passion, they really want, they really know what they want to do, what they want to study. If they have their own documents, they should provide the certificate, the transcript. If we ask them for a letter of recommendation, they should be responsible, uh, in getting the letter free comment, we can help for sure, uh, on telling them what should be in this letter. Um, but it's their own responsibility to have really good communication and networking with their professors or managers to provide letter of recommendations. Um, and finally, they really need to, um, uh, listen carefully, um, on what we really like, advise when we say something for a student. Uh, if I will give you like a small example about the domain, sometimes you come that you want to study computer sciences, but then we advise you take care.

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> Hossam Hashim>The future is for the artificial intelligence or data science. It's better than having a degree in computer science be specialized in that. So we also give students advice, uh, based on our experience about what we see.

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> Hossam Hashim>I live abroad, so I can really give also some uh, credible advices based on what I see around me. So this is what really, uh, what we really hope. So if we will give three, if we would like, you know, give them a brief of three elements, the language, the documents and the like listening carefully, uh, on what we really uh, provide in terms of the information, tell us.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>About any upcoming projects that you and your company are working on that listeners need to be aware of actually a lot.

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> Hossam Hashim>So we, for example, um, Saudi Arabia for example, it's a really nice market and the saudi arabian government, they have uh, scholarships, uh, called Mdad, for saudi students, ah, to study abroad in the UK, in the US, etcetera. And we really um, want to have this kind of collaboration because now we have really more than like, you know, more than 1500 universities around the world. And uh, the scholarship from Saudi Arabia, uh, uh, there are only 460 eligible universities so we have almost all of them. So that's a very good project if we have this collaboration to help saudi students to enroll into this MDAd, uh, scholarship to pursue their bachelor and master degree, uh, abroad.

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> Hossam Hashim>So this is a project, ah, we also uh, have the scholarship accelerator course, um, as I already, um, like you know mentioned before, I really got so many scholarships before.

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> Hossam Hashim>The swedish institute Eiffel excellence global u grade two scholarships in Belgium and um, Serpia and Germany as well. Um, so we have what's called a scholarship accelerator course where we teach, uh, students how to build um, um, a competitive application for scholarships and how to be from the top 2% or 3%, uh, of students. So you would have higher chances to be accepted. And now we have this course that would fit, um, all scholarships. Actually if you want to apply for achievening in the UK or full pride in the US, Eiffel, uh, excellence in France, swedish institute in Sweden and Erasmus Mandis, we would be able to help you and we would be able to really have good pathway for you. Uh, we teach you how to build the um, the motivation letter, the recommendation letter.

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> Hossam Hashim>We show you as well previous uh, profiles of students who made it before you. So you would have an idea about the competitive level, uh, of those previous students. And this is also another project. So those are uh, the two main projects that I focus on, uh, right now. And in terms of the business development, uh, we already have the company in Egypt, so now we are in the process, uh, to have it, uh, like you know, in different parts around the world. We succeeded in having one in Sweden, so now we have a branch in Stockholm, in Sweden, and hopefully soon in other countries, uh, in Europe.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>So that's your contact information so listeners can keep up with everything that you're up to.

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> Hossam Hashim>Uh, you can search uh, on all social media platforms about CADC, CADC career and academic development center and you will find our page on Instagram Facebook, Linkdn. Also on the TikTok, we have English, uh, TikTok for the english speakers. And we have also Arabic TikTok, uh, for, uh, the arab world or the people, um, or the arabian people who speak Arabic. So we have two TikTok, uh, account, uh, so we reach everyone, um, and, uh, then you will be able to find us very, very easily.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>Close us out with some final thoughts. Maybe if that was something I forgot to talk about that you would like to touch on, or any final thoughts you have for the listener.

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> Hossam Hashim>Thank you. Thank you. That's nice of you.

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> Hossam Hashim>Honestly, I think we talked about, uh, everything. Maybe I just, um, I can, um, end the, um, end the talk was just an advice, um, for all students or parents, um, who would listen to this podcast, really, the studying abroad, it changed my life. Not only my life, but also the lives of many people, including my siblings, uh, even my two sisters.

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> Hossam Hashim>They traveled abroad. They, uh, got accepted into exchange programs. Um, they got their degrees, uh, from really reputable universities m around the world. Um, um, the skills you get when you study abroad is not only academic, but on the other hand, you really improve a lot of your, um, personal skills.

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> Hossam Hashim>When you are independent, when you have to take care of everything, you have to be responsible. Uh, this reflects on your future. It reflects also on your career, because you will be responsible, um, um, you will count, uh, on your abilities and capabilities as well. Um, maybe the last advice is that you really need to study abroad at least one time, uh, in your life.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. If you are, you know somebody that's interested in studying abroad, please follow rate review share this episode to as many people as possible. Jump on your favorite podcast app. Give us a review. Follow us.

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> Curtis Jackson (also known as DJ Curveball)>If you have any guest or suggestion topics, Curtis Jackson 1978. Net is the place to send them. Thank you for listening and supporting the show. And Hossam, um, thank you for all you do, and thank you for joining me.

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> Hossam Hashim>Thank you so much. It was amazing to talk to you. Thank you.

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