May 26, 2021

The Evolution of Human Values: What does Your SOUL Tell YOU? | Richard Barrett

The Evolution of Human Values: What does Your SOUL Tell YOU? | Richard Barrett

The complexity of being human means we are always evolving. Bridging the past and bringing in the possibilities of the present into our reality. There is a call for a centering that your values can provide. Richard Barrett, an international thought-leader on the evolution of human values in business and society, brings wisdom and learning into our conversation.

Author of “What My Told Soul Me” and many more books, Richard Barrett, shares that values-based decision is the mode of decision making of the future.  Richard shares his thought-leadership on becoming accountable in your life, leading conscious companies, and conscious society.

  • Permission Granted:  You can connect with Your SOUL.
  • Three things the soul desires to do by incarnating into your body self: Express, Connect and Contribute. - Richard Barrett

Knowledge Bomb

Richard Barrett calls our attention to the importance of working with values in a rapidly changing world.  He councils we need a deeper way of making decisions. What he referred to as value-based decision making. 

This involves checking in at the deepest level of your being and asking “Does this decision and the values I'm using to make this decision aligned truly with who I am?" 

Values-based decision-making is the mode of decision-making of the future. 

About the Guest

Richard Barrett, an international thought-leader on the evolution of human values in business and society. President, Barrett Academy for the Advancement of Human Values.  Founder, Barrett Values Centre. Fellow of the World Business Academy and Former Values Coordinator at the World Bank.

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Dr. Michelle St Jane: [00:00:00] Richard Barrett I'm going to ask you some things about living the life of your soul. I'm a big fan of your book ‘What My Soul Told Me.’ I would love for you to share the story around how you connected and started to hear your soul. 

Richard Barrett: [00:00:52] Whew. I think it happened at that period when I am 45 years old. I suddenly got bored with my career. I realized I had to change the direction of my life and my friends at the World Bank thought that was absolutely stupid and ridiculous. They said, “Look, if you hang on for the 10 or 15 years, you'll get a six-figure, tax-free pension and you won't have to worry ever again.”

I said, “Well, that's fine. But if I do that, I'll be totally depressed because I've got this impulse and I have to do it. I have to follow.” They said, “Nobody knows who You are, you don't have a track record, you know, you don't have a reputation, so goodbye and good luck.” 

That's what happens. I hadn't actually left the World Bank when I started to do workshops on personal transformation and finding your mission in life. I was doing them on the weekends so that it didn't interfere with my work at the World Bank. 

One weekend, I was doing a mission workshop, one of the participants asked me, “What is your mission?” By this time I had a well-worked out and rehearsed affirmation that I was a nationally recognized speaker and author on personal and organizational transformation.

[00:01:52] I certainly wasn't. But that was my affirmation to get me there. This time when the person asked me this question, I could not remember those words. My mind was blank. I was very embarrassed. I just closed my eyes. It must've been a full five to six seconds and out of my mouth came the word “I'm an architect of a global transformation.”

[00:02:11] Oh, those words! I've never said those words. They just came out of my mouth. I thought, "Wow, that is my soul talking to me.” I thought, “Okay, well, what am I going to do? I just sit back and watch it happen.” And that's exactly what I've been doing. I've just been following the impulses for 30 years now.

[00:02:26] I get told what to do, and I get told, well, the book that you're talking about, “What My Soul Told Me.” It's one of my best sellers. One of my most popular books. I wrote that book in two months. I just sat down and it just all came out. Usually, it takes me a year to write a book. I've been writing a book a year for nine years now. That one just came out and it was just truly like, I was almost taking dictation, but it was really still easy to write.

[00:02:54] It was almost as if I was primed to write that book. Like you, many people get a huge sense of inspiration from reading that book. I think one of the reasons why is that if you want to see, feel a sense of vitality in your life, you'll have to realize that we have this three-dimensional material world existence.  There's another external world. But there's another type of existence, a higher level than we're dealing with. Our mind, and what I call a full dimensional existence, is an energetic existence. When you invite that higher consciousness into your life, your life becomes vital and important.  You begin to see that it has meaning and purpose. You find synchronicity happening and this is guiding me. That higher dimension of who you experience. What happens is you feel alive. 

Now, if you're not in touch with that, you'll get very depressed. Your life is very bland, very two dimensional, three dimensional. It gets sad and boring.  

That other aspect of being in touch with something mystical, right? It's bigger than who you are and guides your life. An amazing way of being. I really invite everybody to partake.

I've got another book which followed the, “What my soul told me” called “A new psychology of human wellbeing, the ego soul dynamics of physical and mental health.” In that book, I relate the stages of development, psychological development, the seven stages to our physical health and our mental health.

[00:04:24] If you fail to master a particular stage of development, energetically, it affects a part of the body, which is linked to the stages of development. The chakra system, which is linked to the body. So you will fall ill at the stage of development in a particular place in the body. I lay all that out in the new psychology of human health.

Dr. Michelle St Jane: [00:04:43] That book has been on my side table. Now that you've spoken to it, I've opened it up. The first chapter that jumped out was chapter 16, loyalty to your soul

Richard Barrett: [00:04:54] Right. This is a tough one in the book. What myself, I call it trusting, so it's like, can I trust this entity, where I am, to guide my life?

[00:05:03] I ask people, “Do you have a soul?” And they go, “Yeah.” I want to say, “no, you don't, you don't have a soul. You are the soul. And once you realize you are the soul and that the soul can guide your life.” I mean, that's why it incarnated into your body. Get on board with the program I say, and do this, “Listen to the impulses of yourself because your soul knows what it does. It knows how to find meaning and purpose. It knows what it came to do.” You just get out of the way and let it happen. 

Dr. Michelle St Jane: [00:05:27] So true. I appreciate the fact that chapter 17 is Flourishing from 60 to 80  beyond. I’ve just entered the 60 brackets. 

Richard Barrett: [00:05:36] Yeah. The challenge is the last stage of development. This is all about contribution.

[00:05:40] In your forties, the soul begins to really interact with your life. After the individuating stage, during the twenties and thirties. In the forties, it's all about self-expression. 

  • What are your gifts and talents? 
  • What did your soul come to do in the forties? 

In the fifties, it's about connecting. Connecting with others. You can make a difference in the world by using your gifts and talents. If you can't connect, you can't make a difference. 

Then in the sixties, it's all about contribution. It's simply:

  • What is going to be my contribution to the well-being of the people of my community or my society of my organization, of my country?
  • What contribution can I bring? 

Yet that's what becomes central in your life drives your life. These are the three things that the soul desires to do by incarnating into your body:

  • self-express 
  • connect
  • contribute. 

Anyhow, I could go into a lot more detail about what holds you back and all of these. Go to the website,, you'll find a lot more information on this topic. Particularly in the e-learning courses that I've developed this year and in the workshops that I put on. 

Dr. Michelle St Jane: [00:06:39] Fabulous. And I will make sure all of those details are added to the show notes and transcripts. To direct people to this essential work.

[00:06:47] I'm just so grateful Richard, for your contributions self-expression, and connecting in the world. You're one of my heroes in terms of what you do. I'm very grateful for that. Any last words for the listeners? 

[00:07:01] Richard Barrett: [00:07:01] I think I've been asked this question a lot. I have developed an answer over the past year, which makes you think particularly if you have children, how would you change your life?

[00:07:12] If you realized that you were a role model for the future well-being of your children. They look up to you. You want to set out as a role model for them and for them to live their lives, what they learn as young people comes a lot from parents. So: 

  • Who are you? 
  • Why are you here?
  • What's your purpose?

[00:07:30] How can you teach your children by being who you really are to help them live? Wonderful life.   

Dr. Michelle St Jane: [00:07:37] Richard. I really appreciate your contribution. 

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Richard Barrett

Globally recognized thought influencer in Values-Based Leadership

Richard Barrett, international thought-leader on the evolution of human values in business and society. President, Barrett Academy for the Advancement of Human Values. Founder, Barrett Values Centre. Fellow of the World Business Academy and former Values Coordinator at the World Bank.