Oct. 6, 2021

Glimpse Your VALUES 🌎 Super 🦸🏽‍♂️ Hero | Alan Williams & Steve Payne

Glimpse Your VALUES 🌎 Super 🦸🏽‍♂️ Hero | Alan Williams & Steve Payne

Our inner knowing and realizing your values offers you a path to clarity and ❤️ happiness.
🦸🏻🦸🏽‍♂️ Co-authors, Alan Williams and Steve Payne discuss their book My 31 Practices.
This book provides a strategy and a methodology for actually working with your values,
🧭 connecting with your values,
🧭 understanding your values, and
🧭 then designing ways to implement your values in your daily life.

Discovering and developing Your talents and evolving Your values, sharing Your values knowingly brings You joy by knowing our inner strengths. Co-authors Alan Williams and Steve Payne share wisdom and insights from their book My 31 Practices. This book offers a path to clarity and a framework to find your values.

What Inspired Me?

  •  Discovering your values super 🦸🏻‍♀️ hero.

Knowledge Bomb: Did you know?

  • One of the biggest filters that we have is our programming, AKA our unconscious values and beliefs. 
  • Your values are the 🧭 compass directing what is important to You.

About the Guests

Alan Williams coaches progressive leaders of service sector organizations, internationally and in the UK, to deliver values-driven service for sustained performance. 

Steve Payne, actor, writer, speaker, entrepreneur, certified Master Trainers of Neuro Linguistic Programming.

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Intro: You're listening to Life and Leadership: A Conscious Journey. The podcast that shares wisdom and strength. Join your host, Dr. Michelle St Jane's conversation on how to have a positive impact for people, the planet, and the wider world. If you want to live a life of intention, to be proactive with your time, and bring your vision for the future to live one today at a time, you’re in the right place at the right time. Let's get started. 

Michelle St Jane: [00:00:38] Each of us is unique in our own beautiful experiences and gifts as we journey through life and life. Discovering and developing our talents and evolving our values, sharing our values knowingly brings us joy by knowing our inner strengths. Listen for that voice, be consciously aware, acknowledge your talents and celebrate those you see in others.

Featured guests today are all about releasing the power of your values for authentic happiness. Co-authors, Alan Williams and Steve Payne discuss their book My 31 Practices. This book was dedicated to the alchemy of relationships, curiosity, and serendipity. My 31 Practices offers a path to clarity and a framework to find your values.

[00:01:29] Super 🦸🏻‍♂️ 🦸🏻‍♂️ heroes Alan and Steve came together in collaboration and alchemy of transdisciplinary skills to focus on your failures, your practices, your experiences. These authors show you how to release the power of leaning into the best version of yourself on your conscious journey. Let's look a little closer at these alchemists.

[00:01:52] Alan Williams coach’s a progressive leader in the service sector both internationally and in the UK. Alan's focus is to deliver values-driven service for sustained performance. He is a published author and speaker. 

His co-author Steve Payne is an international executive coach, actor, entrepreneur, and motivational speaker.  Steve is one of the very few certified master trainers of 🧠 neuro-linguistic programming, commonly called 🧠 NLP.

[00:02:23] Let's enjoy our guests. Steve and Alan, how did you both meet and what were your first impressions of each other? 

Steve Payne: I remember from our book launch this very first question came up. It's one of my favorite stories. Such a special story in terms of how the outcomes.

Alan Williams: [00:02:51] Michelle you've mentioned NLP. I've been interested in NLP for many years. I describe my interest as a bit like walking along the side of the swimming pool, looking at it, but not jumping in. I came across an introduction session that Steve was running. I thought I'm going to do that.

[00:03:15] The first-morning session, I started to realize that everything that Steve was talking about was very closely aligned to our first book, The 31 Practices, which is about organizational values. At that coffee break, Steve I'm sure you'll remember this. I said to Steve, “how do you fancy writing a review of the 31 Practices book?”

[00:03:45] Steve was very polite and spoke. “Yeah, I'd love to do this.” We agreed that didn't want to interrupt him too much because he was working, delivering this training.  I went back for the second session, and it just kept coming. The alignment just kept getting stronger and stronger and stronger. At lunchtime, I said to Steve, “you remember at the coffee break asked if you'd write a review of the first book? I've got a bigger, bolder question for you. Would you like to co-author a book with me about the My 31 Practices approach?” The rest is history, as they say. 

Steve Payne: [00:04:22] Absolutely. I remember that really well, Alan. At that time I was hungry to write a book. I was ready to write a book. Alan was in the audience, and we were talking about values. I was delivering on NLP, which is neuro-linguistic programming. 

For anybody who's not familiar with the neuro-linguistic programs, neuro is the mind and how we use our neurology 🧠 to take in information from the world around us. Linguistic is how we assign language to give meaning to our experience, how we interpret our experience and give it meaning. Programming is the result and patterns of behavior that we run. 

One of the biggest filters that we have in our programming is unconscious values and beliefs. Our values really are what's important to us. They are the center of who we are. They're our moral 🧭 compass. For example, we use them as a barometer to recognize things that we do to satisfy things that are important and how we feel bad when we compromise those values. 

I was delivering a session on values and as Alan had written My 31 practices we talked about the book. First, he'd asked me to review it. As he said, the synergy was just so strong that it just seemed like such a natural fit. 18 months later, the book was out and published.  

Michelle St Jane: [00:05:41] In my notes, I keep writing the word alchemy. These are alchemists, look at the alchemy, the mix, the interdisciplinary approach, their careers, and their personalities.

[00:05:54] Was it difficult to collaborate or was it just a smooth ride? Sometimes, we can be taking all kinds of different energies and making them equate to something fantastic. 

Alan Williams: [00:06:05] There's a big, big, thank you to Dropbox from us. We don't live that close.

Steve at the time was in Malaga, Spain. I was in London and the illustrator that also joined the project, John Montgomery, The Whiteboard Animation Guy (explainer videos) was in Nottingham. The chance for us to meet on a face-to-face basis were few and far between. Although we did make the time to make that happen from time to time, most of the time we collaborated simply through Dropbox.

[00:06:37] Again, the alignment piece is really important here because once we decided on the structure of the book, it was a question of trusting in each other to take the lead on certain parts or chapters. Then equally trusting the other person to adjust, amend review accordingly. Really, it felt very seamless apart from the end. Steve, I think the end of the book project where we were proofreading, that was the bit where, yeah.

Steve Payne: [00:07:08] That sums it up. Well,

Michelle St Jane: [00:07:12] I think people underestimate the ultra-fun of writing. Personally, I'm a speaker who likes to write. I am so delighted with some new advances in technology.

Steve Payne: [00:07:27] I was really grateful to Alan because Alan had already written a book.

Steve Payne: [00:07:30] He had the structure and the process already down pat. We didn't have to create that from scratch. Alan sort of brought it to the table and he was very organized with the chapters in Dropbox. 

Every now and again, we'd all get together in London and Alan would be there. John would come down as well. We would move out of the meeting at the British Museum or in the hotel and Charing Cross Station or at Kings Cross Station. Then do some collaborative stuff together, which was really important because being just remote there would probably not have that personal connection as much as having those touchpoints, which was really important.

[00:08:09] Alan said, “the very beginning of the process, it's where like, what can we put in this book? And this is the creative bit. We can put that in. We can put that in. What about this quote?” Which was fantastic. 

Then when we got to the end, and it was the proofreading. I love the creativity, but I'm not really that much of a detail person. We would go through this word by word, page by page, which was my idea of Hell. I'm a big picture thinker, the words that are incorrect, don't leap off the page and grab me by the lapels and say, “you shall not pass until you correct me.” So, we would go through these and send them to the publisher, knowing full well that the publisher would still find loads of things that we missed and feed them back to us. For me, that was the painful bit, so that the previous bit was. 

Michelle St Jane: [00:08:58] I totally empathize. I did a doctorate, and my grandson was my proofreader. Secret confession here. I am really bad at grammar. Great at spelling, but grammar, I don't know where I was when they had those classes. So, my grandson would proofread and he'd go, you can't start a sentence with ‘and,’ and I'm like, “why not?” He's like, seriously, you're writing a doctorate. I'm like, oh, shame moment. 

I'm totally with you. I'm a stratospheric thinker, according to the Hogan assessment. I'm often coached to take those baby steps back down to earth and bring them back up slowly with me.  

[00:09:35] I really liked this book. I would like you to comment on why is My 31 Practices why are these so valuable in your own words? 

Alan Williams: [00:09:48] In my own words, I think that's not for me to say. I think it's for people that have used it and it's for them to say, so there are a couple of people that I've been working with recently.

[00:10:01] Actually one guy, he is an ex-teacher. He was teaching in China. Unfortunately, he suffered an injury while learning martial arts and the operation went wrong, which resulted in him losing partial use of one of his legs. He returned to the UK, now at home and not working and struggling from time to time. I was introduced to him by a mutual acquaintance, and we agreed that it might be interesting for him to work on his values and for us to work through the My 31 Practices approach. Which he did, and he's done it with such great discipline and effort and investment of time. Probably the best that I've ever known. Anybody does it. We've been working together for around about six months now. About a month ago on a call like this, he said to me, “Alan, I don't say this lightly, but this has changed my life.”  I have the hairs on the back of my neck tingle. He described to me is that previously he was obsessed with his restrictions.

Whereas now he realizes the difference that he's able to make, despite his restrictions. That's what I think My 31 Practices brings to people a really strong sense of awareness of what's important to them and the ability to actually put that into daily practice. 

Steve Payne: [00:11:33] That's a great comment, Alan. A great example. I think that it's the practical nature also of the book. It's not just a book about theories. It lays out:

 a strategy and a methodology for actually working with your values, 

🧭 connecting with them, 

🧭 understanding them, and 

🧭 then designing ways to actually implement them in daily life.  

I think it's the practical element that also makes such a big difference factually, as I was just describing, the action leads to change.

[00:12:00] The potential for values to play a big part in changing our lives in a positive direction is enormous. If we connect with them. I think the book lays down a strategy and a methodology. 

Michelle St Jane: [00:12:10] I really resonate with what you both said. You touch on gratitude in the book. In these transitioning times, I've discovered colleagues who've been quite low. I've used doing an ‘A’ to ‘Z’ gratitude list either texting or WhatsApping backward and forth. Just to try and keep them focused on the present and how they can go forward with their next step from a place of gratitude. 

My favorite word in the book was values super 🦸🏻‍♀️ hero. I have a Cape, no wand for me there, no princess stuff here, but I have a Cape I love that word values super 🦸🏽‍♀️ hero. Who came up with this? Where did it come from? 

Alan Williams: [00:12:54] Do you know, I can't remember. I'm feeling that it was at the British Library. I remember us having a discussion around how are we going to describe this thing and us being drawn to Superman, Batman, that sort of character. Then I don't know who mentioned it first, actually, but it was something about the ‘V’ on the vest for values and the cape then John saying, “yeah, I can turn that into a really cool illustration.”

Steve Payne: [00:13:28] I think it was the British Library. I remember sort of this notion of, of pulling apart the shirt to reveal the big ‘V.’ John sort of sketching that out. I remember that part of it vividly, but I always thought value superhero came from you.

[00:13:43] Then we sort of developed and played with the idea and John did some sketches from you’re your value super 🦸🏼 hero. He came from that because values are your superpower. If you tap into your values.

Alan Williams: [00:14:01] The other dimension that I really like about that, apart from this notion of it being a superpower and you being a super 🦸‍♀️hero, I really liked that thought of all you need to do is to get a glimpse of your own values superhero. So, it's not suggesting that it has to be something or complete, you know, you can just make a start by gaining a glimpse and that's the beginning.

Steve Payne: [00:14:27] And the other thing I loved about that image; I was just thinking about that image of sort of pulling back the shirt. It's that notion of letting out what's already within, it's not as, as if it's something we acquired from elsewhere, it's already inside us. And I thought that was quite powerful imagery at the time.

Michelle St Jane: [00:14:41] I really resonated with how you defined it, the best version of yourself. And I really, for me, I kind of stretched that into living and leaning into your legacy and, and your values being, you know, your sort of true compass on how to do that. So, how do your values super 🦸🏻hero show up? Do you get an example?

[00:15:01] Steve Payne: [00:15:01] That's a big question. Isn't it? It's interesting, actually. I mean, one of my values, my strongest values is freedom and variety. There are two very strong values.

It's interesting because I do a lot of work in organizations as Alan does. When we talk about values, one of the things I say is, “look back at your story.” You know, your values are in your story. If your values aren't in their story, then they're probably not your values. The clues too, we want to discover what your values are. It's inherent in your story. 

If I look back over my life, I've never really settled in one place. I've always moved around, and I've always lived abroad. Enjoy different cultures. I'd spent big parts of my year, for example, I’ve lived in Spain, the Czech Republic, Poland, and South Africa, and in Brazil. I can see that value playing out so vividly. And it's interesting then lockdown came. I was on a plane two to three times every month and then locked down, then couldn't go anywhere.

[00:16:02] I thought this is going to be interesting. Actually, I loved it because it was a great pause and was a great period of reflection. Now that we're beginning to sort of move out of that, my thoughts again, are very much in that vein. I moved back from Spain, for this period of lockdown. I'm beginning to find that peace again.

[00:16:25] That value just plays itself out in, in almost everything I do. I will look for opportunities to be in different places. That's really strong. It's palpable. So that's just one example where I can feel that value playing. 

Michelle St Jane: [00:16:39] I liked your words, itchy feet. My paternal grandfather and I accidentally met up at Auckland Airport, New Zealand. I was 14 heading off to New Caledonia in the South Pacific and he was heading off to America to visit one of his daughters. He took one, look at me, and got this sort of flinty expression and said, “hmm itchy feet.” 

So, it's so funny to hear you say that because it just took me right back there because I'm the queen of geographical transfers. I, I love to travel.

 I resonate with what you said in December 2019. I was like, I need to get back to Bermuda. I left New Zealand in February. Then when I got here, of course, like most people, I had no idea about pandemic until we got told about it. I really valued the pause. I have not been on a plane since February 2020, which is really unusual to me. I'm actually not feeling minded to be on planes. An interesting, quite a big sea change for me. 

I am really blessed with having a virtual podium too. I don't have to feel like I have to be an in-person speaker anymore. 

Alan, how would you contribute to that question? 

Alan Williams: [00:17:51] Well, I'm very aware of my values consciously, but over the last few years, I've started to become more confident to seek out my values more intuitively.

[00:18:06] For example, a bank two years ago invited me to speak at a conference in New York. The guy that was organizing it explained that they couldn't pay me to go and speak. Even worse, they couldn't afford the airfare. The rational voice in my head was saying, “well, why would you,” but the values' voice in my head said, “look, he's a good guy. You've collaborated together on other things over the last couple of years. You enjoy photography. You enjoy New York. You're going to tack on a weekend anyway. Why don't you go?”  

I confirmed that I would go along and speak at the conference. Two weeks later, he sent me the program, and on the program was Philip Kotler. Now Philip Kotler is known as the father of marketing, and it was Phil Kotler's textbook that I had to read at university for the marketing module.  I was just amazed to be on the same platform as this guy who inspired my interest in the field of math. At the conference, I introduced myself to Philip and told him the story about how I had to read his textbook at university.

[00:19:29] He just said to me, “Alan, I hope you're not going to hold me accountable for your career.” A lovely, lovely man. By the end of the two-day conference, I told him that I was writing a book called the Values Economy. I asked Philip if he would be interested to see the manuscript? He replied that “he would love to?” He's been interested in values for a long time. I sent it to him with a very cheeky request, inviting him to write the forward to the book if he would like to. As a result, he did. On the front cover of our book, Philip Kotler says “an excellent and insightful addition to our business literature.”

[00:20:13] My heart still races when I read those words. That somebody like Philip Kotler should be saying something like that about our book. My son, Sam Williams, the co-author said, “I love the way the circle has closed that. You read his book when you were at university. Now he has read our book, which has got something beautiful about it.”

Michelle St Jane: [00:20:36] Well-said! I just love synchronicity. 
 When it comes to leadership communication and mastering your abilities to have any ethical-based impact between us all. We've utilized a blend of skills and decades of transdisciplinary experience in the world and business.

[00:20:56] As I've said earlier, and I'll repeat, I think it creates this powerful alchemy of possibilities for myself, I dove deep into different multinational organizations ranging from investment banking, pensions insurance reinsurance has to touch on some of the industries I transited through and then moved from the corporate world to social enterprise, sitting on the family court bench, human rights, police complaints, crossing different academic disciplines like law, philanthropy, and global leadership.

[00:21:24] All this sounds like a mishmash or does it. I discovered looking through the lens of my values it made more sense than reading my career history trajectory. This topic is so important to me. 

Now I'm a speaker who likes to write and podcasting provides my virtual podium. That aligns with four of my top values. In no particular order: 

🧭 communication or conversation catching as I like to call it.

🧭 fostering open dialogues

🧭 exchanging ideas among the various groups, 

🧭 as well as cooperating with others for conscious stewardship

🧭 then wisdom, clearly I'm devoted and leaning into my sense of purpose through serving others through wisdom and using my combined knowledge and experience in what I like to call socio-environmental Imagineering.

[00:22:16] Then just like you and Sam, Alan, I'm very invested in future generations and intergenerational collaborations and compassionate. It's very important, not just how we treat people and the planet, but also near-earth orbit and outer space. 

Then, Alan, I look at your sort of career trajectories and you've worked in for Intercontinental hotel, Whitbread Brewery, catering, Barclays Capital. You've got the UK Value Alliance. Now you're consulting around values-driven service. I mean, progressive leaders in the service sector organization are well served by what you bring. Can you speak to your values and perhaps comment on how you created this trajectory? Like me, you just followed that your intuition and your opportunities.

Alan Williams: [00:23:05] Michelle, it's a lovely thought actually. People talk about following your values, right? Other people talk about following your heart, which is kind of very similar. I think of my grandmother actually in this space. I was brought up in the Southwest of England. When I was younger I had a, uh, Devin country accent.

[00:23:31] My grandmother used to say, “you need to follow your nose.” I use this in a talk that I gave recently. One of the members of the audience said to me, “I just love that idea of following your nose. And it makes absolute sense because it's the thing that's in front. Isn't it.” 

There is part of this Michelle, which is about following your nose or your intuition. I think if you are guided by your values, Then the good stuff is given the chance to happen.

[00:24:06] Like that story of the conference, recently I was connected with a school near Phoenix  Arizona. They wanted somebody to give the senior students or talk about values for an hour. 

I had the pre-call with Mary, the teacher, and asked the innocent question during the conversation, has your school got a set of values? Mary said, “well, no.” So I said, “well, how do you feel about having a set of values?” And she said, “I think that would be wonderful.” Then I said, “how do you feel about your senior students managing that process and leading that process so that when they leave the school next spring, they leave the legacy of the set of school values.

[00:24:51] She was just thrilled with the idea. We briefed the senior students on the process. They did it. They articulated, we helped them to refine, communicate the values and embed them. What a project that was. That was not paid work at all. I use a phrase which is “pay more disrespect to money” because if you use the money to help you make decisions, I find that sometimes you end up in the wrong place.

[00:25:18] Whereas if you use your values to make the decision. That project is probably my favorite project over the last 12 months, the commercial side of it is irrelevant. 

To answer your question, you can follow your values and you can either do that in a very conscious way. Or as I've learned more recently, you can just follow your intuition or your nose and get to the same end result.

Michelle St Jane: [00:25:44] Steve, how would you expand with your thoughts? 

Steve Payne: [00:25:49] Similar, I think too, to Alan really. I'm a very big picture thinker. I think in big chunks. And if I look back over all the decisions that I've made about things that I've done, and the key things that have led me to that, I started, even going back before that, when I was at school. I remember the careers masters asking, “what I wanted to do?” Saying I had fuzzy edges. Which at the time I thought it was an insult. I've grown to understand that was probably the greatest compliment anyone's ever given me.

[00:26:17] When somebody said, “well, do you want to do?” I say initially, “I want to be a policeman, a fireman, a doctor, and an astronaut.” This whole list, because I didn't want to restrict it to one thing because you know, the world is so rich that I didn't want to just have a small piece of the experience of the world.

[00:26:34] It seemed to me natural that being an actor would give me the opportunity to do all these things. I fixated on becoming an actor. In a newspaper, in a school library, a picture of an actor called Kathleen Turner, who at the time had just made a movie called Body Heat (1981) and it said that she trained at the Royal Central School of Speech and Drama. I said to myself in that library, “that's where I'm going to go and train.” Then I fixated on that. I auditioned for drama. I did my round of auditions at five different drama schools in Bristol. 

I remember I was so desperate to be an actor. I wanted to move on anything. That's just, I was in, I was in a hurry as well. But I didn't get into it, I got recalled to all of them, but I didn't get into the big ones, but I did get into one of the lesser ones. 

There was a huge part of me that said, “go, go, go now. Now is the time to do it.” The other part of me thought, “no, wait, 12 months, come back and do it again,” because I wanted the Royal Central School of Speech and Drama. The risk was I would not take the drama school that I had an offer. I would wait a year and come back and not get in anywhere. I had that kind of dilemma of really wanting to start so badly, but really wanting the place I wanted to go.

[00:27:52] I made the decision to go off and work for you, come back and re-audition. I came back and re-auditioned and I got into Royal Central School of Speech and Drama. Which was, again, that was value-driven. For someone who is really hungry and impatient at the beginning, with all those fears and doubts of not getting in anywhere, and that was a big decision.

[00:28:08] I didn't really understand it at the time, because I didn't have the life experience or the language around it. I realized so strongly after that, but that was a value-driven decision

As Alan says, not thinking about the money i.e., taking something, which was on offer right in front of me, actually wanting something more important than the money or going this year, if it was going to the place I wanted.

[00:28:30] That really was a, a huge lesson for me. Even more than that, sitting in the audition room at the Royal Central School of Speech and Drama and having to spend a weekend there. Of having to do speeches and songs, directors redirecting you in a room full of all that nervous energy.

[00:28:51] I was so hungry, I couldn't eat. I had this knot in my stomach and it was really painful. I remember sitting on the floor next to another guy and we had no theatrical background at all. The room was full of the sons and daughters of famous actors who were my heroes. They were all so confident and singing songs from Westend shows just for fun. Their audition songs were from Les Misérables, and my audition song was a happy birthday. I'm not kidding. 

I remember after two days thinking:

🚩 I'm in the wrong place. 

🚩 What on earth am I thinking? 

🚩 Thinking that I could be here, or I should be here, or I deserve to be here. 

🚩 Why am I doing this to myself? 

After two days, at the end of the second day, this lady walked in with a clip. She read out two names, my name and the guy that sat next to me. We kind of looked at each other with knowing looks. Then she said, everybody else, “I'm really sorry. It hasn't worked out this time,” and sent them home. 

That moment really changed my life because I realized that actually if you follow your passion if you really want something so badly that you're preparing to put yourself through that pain then you can achieve all kinds of things in your life.

[00:29:55] That moment made me realize that I'm not a statistic. People had said this X thousand people apply for X places, but those are statistics and statistics of averages. You're only average if you choose to be average. That moment was a values moment that changed the course of my life.

[00:30:13] And ever since then, it's always been about the exploration of what's possible. I think everything I've ever done has been a reflection of that and what I do now, and you know, working with Alan and working with values and working with the people and personal development is, is really a reflection of that to what is possible if you really connect to what's important to you.  So, it's really been a guiding, a guiding light. 

Michelle St Jane: [00:30:33] Well-put. When I was a teenager, I got a chance to do modeling. Nothing gives you more confidence than knowing how to stand before an audience, talk, and show up.  Steve, from the acting, filmmaker, to being a master of NLP, would you like to share with the audience about what you do and what services you can provide that they might like to hear about?

Steve Payne: [00:31:00] I run a company called the Academy of Coaching and Training. The company trains professional coaches and certifies. You get accredited by the Association for Coaching. You get an NLP practitioner certificate accredited by the Association for NLP; this is a life skills training that will set you in good stead for anything you choose to do in your life.

The kind of communication skills that you refer to earlier 

🧑‍🤝‍🧑 our ability to communicate in an elegant fashion 

🧑‍🤝‍🧑 to understand other people and where other people come from and 

🧑‍🤝‍🧑 to form connections

Those are the most important skills I think that we can possess. They are the bedrock of everything. The training really is coach training, and the NLP training is so much more than that.

 Also, public speaking because of my background, of course, public speaking is an absolute passion of mine. I train people to be able to speak in public and write speeches for the public.

[00:31:58] That's the scope of what I do. It's all personal development because speaking is a life skill and it's not just about speaking. It's about so much more. I've run courses, accredited courses in those fields. I take those to not only individuals but into organizations and I help leaders lead in an elegant value-driven way.

Alan Williams For me, it's quite a mix of stuff, but all values-based. I do a lot of pro bono work with the UK values Alliance. I founded the Global Values Alliance. I am heavily involved in World Values Day.

On the commercial side, I worked with organizations to design and then implement values-driven service.  That allows them to perform on a sustained basis rather than a kind of flash in the pan performance.

[00:32:55] The reason this is important to me is because lots of people talk about excellent service. But unless that excellent service is in a style, a particular style, and a relevant style, I feel that people are really missing a lot. 

Michelle St Jane: [00:33:14] This has been a brilliant interview. Thank you both for your contribution. A very rich conversation. 

Alan Williams: [00:33:23] Thank you. 

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Alan Williams

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ALAN WILLIAMS coaches progressive leaders of service sector organizations, internationally and in the UK, to deliver values-driven service for sustained performance. He is a published author and speaker whose projects have delivered measurable business results across a balanced scorecard and been recognized with industry awards.

Steve Payne

VALUES 🌎 Super🦸🏽‍♂️ Hero

Steve Payne is an actor, writer, speaker, entrepreneur and one of very few certified Master Trainers of Neuro Linguistic Programming in the world. He trained at the Royal Central School of Speech and Drama and worked for many years as a professional actor, appearing in some of the UK's best known TV shows.
Steve is the founder of the Academy of Coaching and Training, an organisation that trains Association for Coaching and Association for NLP accredited coaches. He specialises in public speaking and speech writing coaching. Together with Alan Williams, he co-authored the critically acclaimed My 31 Practices, published by LID Publishing.
Steve's main focus is helping individuals and organisations overcome self-imposed barriers and realise their potential through a greater understanding of how values and beliefs impact behaviour.