80: The Power of the Independent Candidate in the 2024 BC Election with Ashley Ramsay, MLA Candidate for Kelowna-Mission

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Welcome back to the Colonial Real
Estate Podcast.

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I'm your mortgage broker host,
Taylor Atkinson.

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And I'm your real estate agent
host, Matt Klan.

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What's going on today, Taylor?
News, news, more news, man.

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Yeah.

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It seems to be mostly related on

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the mortgage industry, which is
easy for me, I guess.

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There was like a year straight
where it was all real estate

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stuff, but now it's mortgage.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, we've kind of talked
about on the previous episode,

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insured mortgages up to 1.5, down
payment structure, stuff like

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that.

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To coincide with that, they're

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supposed to be coming out middle
of November.

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And basically it is not having to
stress test when you're renewing

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your mortgage.

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So what that means basically is

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when your term's up, let's say
you're with a lender for a

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five-year fix.

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When that term comes up for

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renewal, your lender that you're
currently with is going to offer

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you, hey, here's our today's
rates.

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If those aren't acceptable to you,
you're allowed to switch lenders

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and you don't have to stress test
to qualify.

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Now, previously we could always do
that, but you had to stress test

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that extra 2%, which kind of gave
the current lender the monopoly

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over your mortgage because a lot
of people had a hard time

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qualifying.

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So not that those lenders use that

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to their ability like you know in
a negative way but sometimes they

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just had higher rates than other
lenders so it wasn't great for the

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customer so it opens up that
opportunity so basically allows

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you to rate shop at renewal yeah
but if you went to another so

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basically allows you to rate shop
at renewal yeah but if you went to

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another lender you'd have to get
re-qualified to go to another

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lender yeah Yeah.

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You always have to requalify if

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you're going to a new lender.

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Yeah.

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If you're staying with the same
lender, generally they're never

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going to.

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So they're never going to.

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So like, I guess my question on
this is like, why would I go

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through all the requalification
process and just use the same

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mortgage?
Why don't you just refinance?

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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A lot of people don't want to
lengthen out their amortization or

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to take on extra debt, you know?
So that's one thing that they

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haven't really disclosed is, you
know, some mortgages have like a

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home equity line of credit
associated to it or like a

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revolving home equity line of
credit.

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You pay down your principal and
access to that HELOC grows.

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So they haven't really said how
that's going to work.

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I don't think that would be a
straight renewal because as soon

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as you start to refinance, it's
accessing extra equity and they're

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probably not going to do the
renewal based on that.

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So you will have to stress test if
you're refinancing.

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To put some more context in this,
insured mortgages, less than 20%

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down CMHC, you could always switch
lenders without having to stress

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test anyways.

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So they're just kind of opening it

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up to everyone that has a standard
mortgage now.

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So it's just better for the
client, gives the client more

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power.

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If somebody wants to do If

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somebody wants to do that, do they
talk to you?

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They talk to a mortgage worker to
do that?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Nice.

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I mean, we saw this a lot, maybe a

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year ago, there was a couple of
lenders that had substantially

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higher rates than, you know, most
of the lenders just in terms of

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how much capital they had to
deploy at the time.

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So maybe they're half a percent
higher than, you know, the best

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option option but we couldn't move
that client because they just

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could not qualify using the stress
test because rates were so high so

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now we have the ability to move
them over easier it doesn't mean

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you know they're 100% guaranteed
to qualify it's just shaving two

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percent off the qualification rate
gotcha yeah today we brought on

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ashley ramsey on the podcast.

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She was BC United.

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And then we know what obviously,
happened with that.

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She got falconed.

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She got falconed, yeah.

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Yeah, so she's an independent,
lower mission riding.

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And yeah, we kind of talked to her
in depth of her background, mostly

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in the tech industry and
entrepreneurship, which is going

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to try and advocate for Kelowna
specific to our municipality.

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So I think she's right about doing
this, right about doing this, but

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pushing the benefits of having an
independent candidate in the

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legislature.

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Because you don't have to toe the

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party line on every vote.

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It makes a big difference for the

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local riding that they're in
because you can really advocate

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for lots of things.

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And this election is supposed to

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be pretty tight with the NDP and
Conservatives.

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So having three, four, five, six
independent MLAs there and one of

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them's in your riding, like that
could be a huge boost.

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I think the Okanagan, like we're
in a great position to take

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advantage of this situation.

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Yeah, it seems like the majority

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of the independents are based in
the interior, which seems like

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that.

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Yeah.

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Maybe that's just because our
bubble, but it seems like that.

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Yeah.

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Well, I think previously we were

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more of a united liberal yeah
geographic area anyways so yeah

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awesome to have her on election is
imminent election will be probably

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like nine ten days away once this
airs so do some education get out

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vote you know look at our back
catalog we've had quite a few of

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the candidates on we've had steve
johnson ashley we had yeah loyal

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wildridge is his episode was
awesome he talked a lot about his

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policies too so that would be it
wasn't for the campaign but i

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think it'd be pretty perfect to
listen to for this and then we

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also had on ben stewart he's no
longer running but he was a

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longtime bc liberal and united so
his points were probably still

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valid for the candidate there the
podcast is keeping you in the know

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yeah this podcast is keeping in
know yeah this should be our end

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of the political run we're getting
pretty deep in it and yeah we

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don't want to go too deep on that
stuff but it's really relevant

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information right now and yeah we
think we'd be doing a disservice

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not to be talking about it openly
so yeah well because government

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has played well because government
has played such a major role in

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the real estate.

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Like since we started this

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podcast, Taylor and I were joking
that every week we have different

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news to do different laws,
different like rule changes and

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all these things.

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And like, this is all because of

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your government.

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Right.

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So like, and so we're talking to
these people, the why and what's

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happening and all this.

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So like, yeah, we don't like to

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get super political, but like you
got to ask the leaders what's up.

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And we're doing it.

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we're doing Yeah, it.

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And we're doing it nonpartisan.

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I think we've got to give

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We've been doing pretty good

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Okay.

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Welcome to the show, Ashley
Ramsey.

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Thanks for joining us.

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Thanks for coming.

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Hi Thanks for coming.

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Hi guys, thank you.

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coming.

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Hi guys, thank you.

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I saw more than a dozen of your
signs on the way here.

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Oh, nice.

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Good.

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Yeah, we're still rocking Oh,
nice.

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Good.

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Yeah, we're still rocking it.

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Yeah.

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Out there at night, we always go

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out at dark so no one can see us
doing it because it's super

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embarrassing.

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And now we have a whole crew, so

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it's good.

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It's It's funny, you're talking to

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a realtor who has open house signs
all the time i find that the most

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embarrassing thing i find it
really humiliating but anyway yeah

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it really humiliating but anyway i
guess i guess you just just have

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to do it it's it it's weird it's
it's weird it's like here i am yay

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anyway what's your most
humiliating thing your most

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humiliating thing this podcast
this is out of my comfort zone for

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sure i love it okay well how we
like to start our show is just you

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connecting with our listener.

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What's kind of your perfect

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Friday?
What gives you energy?

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What makes you productive?
And then what do you do for fun?

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do for fun?
Oh, nice.

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Okay.

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Well, if I can start my Fridays

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later, it's better.

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So never do I schedule anything

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before 1030.

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That's why I'm here today at 1030.

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So we try to take it a little
easier at home.

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And typically if the kids are
pretty toast, every few weeks,

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we'll just give them a hall pass
on a Friday.

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But I wake up and I'm usually
caffeinating outside.

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Doesn't matter if it's winter,
summer.

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I go out to the front deck.

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I love the fresh air.

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And I'm actually super addicted to
my greens, my AG1 greens.

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Sorry, they didn't sponsor today.

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But I've been on the AG program

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for a few years.

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So that's part of my habit.

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And you I'm not any then, like for
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years.

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my And then, you habit.

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know, I'm not any like a workout
meditative person.

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That's my evening.

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So I'm more like hot yoga at night

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in the evenings, not any activity
in the morning.

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So like a big warm blanket and a
nice big coffee.

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Yeah.

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You got to get your stretching in
before Sorry, they didn't sponsor

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today.

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But I've been Yeah.

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You got to get your stretching in
before you're doing your signs.

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Yeah.

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So So funny.

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Awesome.

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Give us a bit Give a of a

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background, you know, kind of
coming up in the entrepreneur

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style and where you're at now,
like a bit of a summary and then

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we'll dive into it from there.

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So I would So I would always say
that I was a born entrepreneur.

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I mean, I always had like little
flower stands at our farm where I

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was growing up and I would always
run a little shop on our deck.

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I would get all the Campbell's
soup cans and like pretend I was

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selling them and play teacher and
all this stuff.

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You know, I was always like
wanting to do things by myself.

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So I grew up like that.

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So it was always innately driven

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to just do my own thing.

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But I did pursue a Bachelor of

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Arts at University of British
Columbia, later ended up getting

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into animation and worked my way
up to executive producer and then

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went back to my entrepreneurial
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child.

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So I had been producing animation

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and then we had Addy and I ended
up creating a baby product

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business actually out of the need
to have like kind of a different

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kind of splat mat for her.

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So I had, you know, started that

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business.

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And then prior to that, Todd and I

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had bought a home that was like a
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renovating it.

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So we did the whole house blogging

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thing and that was super fun.

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So we've always, I've always been

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naturally inclined to do my own
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And fast forward, this is like
super Coles Notes life story right

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now, but we founded Yeti Farm
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Todd and I moved back home and it
was all about like creating jobs

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and how can we bring what we knew
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And his dad had started the first
Eagle practice here in the

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seventies, Port-A-Ramsey.

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And so for us, it was really

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important to sort of like carry a
legacy, like it was more from the

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heart space of service to bring
back something in Kelowna.

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And we thought, wow, what an
opportunity Club Penguin was

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booming and stuff.

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So yeah, we started in our

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basement here and 175 employees
later, we had grown our business

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to a large animation studio here.

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And we created Hotel Transylvania,

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the series, Pete the Cat, Max and
Ruby.

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Lots of great titles have come out
of Kelowna.

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We created some of our own
intellectual properties.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We made the whole second season

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here.

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So when you're on Amazon Prime,

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that's made in Kelowna.

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It's pretty fun.

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And then we sold that in December.

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And, you know, I've always, like I

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say in these interviews and when
I'm speaking about this mission

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that I feel like I'm on, it's
always been about service for me.

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Like at the core value, my
grandmother always said like, you

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should always be giving back.

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And that just really stayed in my

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purpose.

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I had been working on government

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boards for 10 years.

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And so that was sort of preparing

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me, I guess, for this like role
that I might be going into in

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government.

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And so when the call came in in

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May and we had a family trip book,
I had a couple days to get my 47

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page crazy document in and I did
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We got a call when we were away.

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And they were like, Yeah, you're

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nominated.

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And I was like, what?

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Here we go.

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So I've been campaigning since

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June.

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And I just say it's been the

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absolute joy of my life.

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Like and I say that was such

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conviction and passion to the
point where I have to hold back

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the tears.

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Like communicating with the

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community in this way, it's just
such a heart opener.

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Like I was just speaking with the
father of the teen who just had

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that horrible incident.

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He called my cell phone just now.

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And, you know, it's quite a
calling this work.

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Yeah.

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So I'm not going to start crying

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and gushing, but it's been a great
journey.

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So win or lose, I've won.

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It's okay if you do.

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Matt and I talk on the show all
the time.

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I'm a super like real passionate
person.

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So sometimes I get a little like
into it.

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Yeah.

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Well, we can obviously sense like

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your reason behind, you know,
wanting to continue to run

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clearly.

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Like we had Steve Johnson on a

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couple episodes ago.

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So you were with BC United Party.

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Obviously everyone kind of knows
what happened there.

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So now you're independent.

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Can you kind of tell us about your

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position now?
Like we briefly spoke about it

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with Steve, but you're feeling
pretty optimistic in terms of

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like, when and if you get elected,
hopefully, then yeah, yeah, what

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voice will you have in Victoria?
Nice, nice, good lead in nice,

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good lead in there, because it's a
pretty awesome situation.

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And I think this is kind of the
bomb drop for British Columbians.

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Like they're slowly realizing this
amazing opportunity we have right

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now.

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So we're in this sort of

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historical moment where in British
Columbia, we've sort of netted out

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with these sort of two parties,
right?

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If you will, whatever you want to
say about what happened, doesn't

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matter.

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We've been left with two choices

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and BC born and raised.

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I don't know about you guys, but

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like, it just didn't feel right.

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Our values are like hard on the

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left pocketbook, right?
We definitely want to balance the

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budget, but we have social
conscience, right?

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And we're intelligent and we do
believe in climate change.

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We live in the Okanagan where
there's fires all the time.

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And we do care about kids not
getting bullied for what they want

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to believe in.

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And, you know, all these things

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kind of got swept out under the
carpet.

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And then with the NDP going
forward with all of their

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policies, it's just left like
this.

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I hate, like I'm not a mudslinger
because that's not my vibes, but

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NDP is not the right choice for
British Columbia right now.

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We need to get out of where we're
at with $107 billion deficit.

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So with regards to the
independents, we are now realizing

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how powerful this is going to be.

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So in a community where you have

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an NDP and a conservative,
typically the conversation will go

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like this.

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Well, we just want the NDP out.

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So we're just going to vote for a
conservative.

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I don't even care who that person
is.

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And then you kind of start talking
about it and you're like, okay,

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but if you're voting for the
independent in that community,

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you're still a vote away from the
NDP.

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But guess what?
That independent doesn't have to

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vote alongside his or her BC
conservative party.

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And typically what'll happen is if
you're in a party, in most cases,

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you are voting along with the
party.

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So you're towing the party line
because they need a certain amount

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of votes in the ledge.

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But as an independent, you're

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actually going to control that
vote and you're going to be able

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to provide information to some of
these policies that are being put

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forward that are specific to our
community in order to win our

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vote.

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So we become kind of like the

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kingmakers.

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So it's like, if you guys want

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that power plant or whatever, I
guess he's talking about doing a

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nuclear power plant And I'm well,
like, somewhere.

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like, okay, there's a really darn
good chance that's not gonna

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happen down on the coast.

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So is that going to be in the

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interior?
Because if it's going to be in the

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interior, like damn, that
independent, those three or four

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seats that we have in the Okanagan
for independence are going to stop

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that nuclear power plant.

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Again, I'm going pretty extreme,

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but like, this is in the news,
right?

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I hope that kind of illustrates
that, you know, if you're voting

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for an independent, you're
actually getting a stronger vote.

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So not only are you taking that
seat away from the NDP, but you're

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actually putting in a seat that
has a voice that can actually vote

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for what we need in each
community, not what just John

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Rustad needs for his party.

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Like if anyone hasn't Yeah, yet

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totally.

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listened to Steve Johnson's like,

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listen to that, because we
summarized it quite a bit in there

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too.

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But you're really focusing on one

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thing, which I think is important
is like Kelowna specific needs,

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like, and maybe it's just Matt and
I and like the real estate agent

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industry.

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But the last two years, it seems

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like provincially, there's been a
lot of kind of blanket policies

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that don't fit Kelowna.

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And I know speaking with you a

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little bit before this, like
Kelowna feels a little flat right

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now for whatever reason.

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And we are such a, like an

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entrepreneurial based community
with tech sector, which like,

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thank you.

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You obviously added huge to that

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and club penguin and all that kind
of stuff, like moving forward,

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ideally, like what would benefit
Kelowna specifically in terms of

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like, how do we get our vibe back?
How do we get the economy going

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like locally again?
How do we get like the real estate

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market fair and balanced?
Like these are obviously like very

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tough questions, but How do we
yeah, like the first, you know, I

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have things you're going to do.

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Save the world.

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do. Ashley, what are you going to
deliver into the Christmas tree

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this year?
Okay, look, so there's a lot,

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right?
So there's a lot from mental

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health addictions, like there's
all of those social issues, and

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then there's the economy.

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And so my approach is sort of

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entrepreneurial.

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So I think like the block and

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tackle approach.

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So when you're in a big company

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tackling many issues, which I do
see the province as sort of a

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company, I see it as a business,
right?

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Like that's how I see So what it.

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right?

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first, What's the foundation?
So I do see the province as sort

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of a company.

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I see it as a business, right?

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Like that's how I see it.

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So what right?

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first, What's the foundation?
So I do believe in personal tax

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cuts.

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I fully support that.

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You know, with BC United being
announced for up to $50,000, you

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wouldn't pay taxes, okay?
So, but I actually think it needs

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to be a bit higher.

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So when we get down there and

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there are any discussions of that,
fully thumbs up to that.

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We have to kind of stop the
bleeding.

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I think people need a breath right
now.

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I call it BC needs a breath.

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And the same goes for business.

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So once you do that tax cut, and
I'm just talking about one little

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area here that's kind of the
foundation of the lift, and then

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I'm gonna get into tech and
business.

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So the second thing that'll start
happening is guess what happens

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when people have money?
They spend it, right?

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And so our restaurants, super
struggling after this summer,

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right?
And I think like once you get

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people feeling a bit of a breath,
it's called the vibe-onomics.

498
00:15:34,060 --> 00:15:36,063
There's actually a new term around
the vibe economy.

499
00:15:36,063 --> 00:15:38,984
We're having a vibe right now and
it's not a good one.

500
00:15:39,084 --> 00:15:42,014
Everybody's a little bit like, you
know, like I don't want to spend

501
00:15:41,914 --> 00:15:43,403
money because I'm nervous that
there's something going to be

502
00:15:43,289 --> 00:15:43,396
around the corner.

503
00:15:43,432 --> 00:15:43,889
And then what's the next shoe

504
00:15:43,775 --> 00:15:44,054
that's going to drop.

505
00:15:44,018 --> 00:15:44,297
So let's just ease that.

506
00:15:44,276 --> 00:15:44,476
Okay.

507
00:15:44,333 --> 00:15:44,626
Then we deal with this fuel tax,

508
00:15:44,605 --> 00:15:44,948
the carbon tax.

509
00:15:44,834 --> 00:15:46,620
So, you know, I think we need a

510
00:15:46,607 --> 00:15:50,280
lot of discussion around that too,
but ultimately we need to remove

511
00:15:50,248 --> 00:15:51,540
that in some capacity.

512
00:15:51,487 --> 00:15:53,680
I don't know what that looks like.

513
00:15:53,660 --> 00:15:55,280
I don't have enough information
and I'm very clear about that, but

514
00:15:55,460 --> 00:15:56,581
I do support a lot of these
breaks.

515
00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:59,000
Once that starts happening, people
have a different vibe and now

516
00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,835
they're out and businesses are
feeling a little like looser and

517
00:16:01,835 --> 00:16:02,240
they're more successful.

518
00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:03,434
In business, I do feel like with

519
00:16:03,434 --> 00:16:06,038
the implementation of increase to
the minimum wage, increase to the

520
00:16:06,038 --> 00:16:08,146
sick days, that was all sent to
them from the NDP government.

521
00:16:08,146 --> 00:16:10,196
Like there was nothing of a give
back.

522
00:16:10,196 --> 00:16:12,971
So a business was told, well, you
have to increase your minimum wage

523
00:16:12,971 --> 00:16:15,899
within, I think it was like a few
months, don't quote me, but it was

524
00:16:15,899 --> 00:16:16,799
really quick, like turnaround.

525
00:16:16,799 --> 00:16:18,398
So not only is this business

526
00:16:18,393 --> 00:16:21,021
struggling, but now they've got to
pay more minimum wage, which I

527
00:16:21,021 --> 00:16:23,343
totally support paying minimum
wage.

528
00:16:23,343 --> 00:16:25,604
But if the government is
implementing that to a business,

529
00:16:25,592 --> 00:16:27,299
then they need to give the
business something back.

530
00:16:27,299 --> 00:16:31,358
So I think something around a tax
credit of some sort over the next

531
00:16:31,358 --> 00:16:34,325
couple of years to help just
offset that cost that they've had

532
00:16:34,325 --> 00:16:34,648
to undergo.

533
00:16:34,748 --> 00:16:36,539
The sick days are another one.

534
00:16:36,439 --> 00:16:37,632
I agree with giving people sick
days.

535
00:16:37,632 --> 00:16:40,395
But again, what are you giving the
business back in exchange for

536
00:16:40,395 --> 00:16:41,659
mandating that, right?
We have what's called the Small

537
00:16:41,659 --> 00:16:42,008
Business Roundtable.

538
00:16:41,956 --> 00:16:43,048
It's called the BC Small Business

539
00:16:43,048 --> 00:16:43,327
Roundtable.

540
00:16:43,327 --> 00:16:44,999
It was implemented about 13 years

541
00:16:44,999 --> 00:16:47,886
ago under the Ministry of small
business and red tape reduction

542
00:16:47,786 --> 00:16:47,856
ministry.

543
00:16:47,856 --> 00:16:48,622
What a concept.

544
00:16:48,622 --> 00:16:50,164
Where did that ministry go?
Right.

545
00:16:50,164 --> 00:16:52,622
And that ministry turned into the
jobs, economic development,

546
00:16:52,622 --> 00:16:55,510
innovation ministry, which has
nothing to do, like they don't do

547
00:16:55,610 --> 00:16:57,725
any work with smaller micro
businesses at all.

548
00:16:57,725 --> 00:17:00,240
It's mostly focused on tech from
what I've seen working on these

549
00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:00,391
boards.

550
00:17:00,391 --> 00:17:03,195
And so some sort of a

551
00:17:03,095 --> 00:17:05,875
reorganization to give micro and
small business some attention.

552
00:17:05,875 --> 00:17:10,163
Thank you very much, which means
potentially even a small to micro

553
00:17:10,163 --> 00:17:11,545
business tax cut.

554
00:17:11,645 --> 00:17:13,310
Like I don't want to promise

555
00:17:13,310 --> 00:17:15,419
anything, but that's where my
head's at.

556
00:17:15,419 --> 00:17:18,316
Like we need to give everybody a
bit of a breath.

557
00:17:18,316 --> 00:17:20,609
And again, pilot programs are
great for that, right?

558
00:17:20,609 --> 00:17:23,285
So you can do two or three year
implementation of these things

559
00:17:23,385 --> 00:17:26,055
just to kind of get people going
again and then you know the

560
00:17:26,055 --> 00:17:27,969
interest rates are going to start
dropping right so i think just

561
00:17:27,969 --> 00:17:31,091
today i was listening to a podcast
that by next february there'd be

562
00:17:30,991 --> 00:17:33,855
down a whole point by next summer
maybe down to like those twos or

563
00:17:33,855 --> 00:17:36,856
threes you guys are in the
business and i'm like are in the

564
00:17:36,956 --> 00:17:39,968
business and i'm like yes so i'm
feeling good so i'm feeling good

565
00:17:39,968 --> 00:17:42,084
that like by next summer, maybe
we're breathing again.

566
00:17:42,084 --> 00:17:44,974
Like, look, I could sit here for
hours and we could pound out

567
00:17:44,974 --> 00:17:48,194
policy, but I think we need these
small, quick tweaks, like quick

568
00:17:48,194 --> 00:17:50,775
little ones, you know, just to
kind of get the things moving

569
00:17:50,775 --> 00:17:50,927
again.

570
00:17:50,927 --> 00:17:52,237
And then of course, like our

571
00:17:52,237 --> 00:17:54,587
industries, LNG is a big one for
me.

572
00:17:54,587 --> 00:17:58,600
I think once we get that fired up,
that's going to be selling LNG

573
00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,767
product across the world, which
then is revenue for the province,

574
00:18:02,767 --> 00:18:07,733
which we can then reinvest into
green energy solutions, right?

575
00:18:07,733 --> 00:18:09,373
And you've seen that in
California.

576
00:18:09,373 --> 00:18:10,936
That's what they've done.

577
00:18:10,936 --> 00:18:14,660
That's a bit of a longer road, but

578
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,928
I do think we need to find ways to
generate a lot of tax income into

579
00:18:18,928 --> 00:18:22,000
the province in order to get this
budget balanced out.

580
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,630
There's a whole bunch of other
things I could go on and on about,

581
00:18:25,630 --> 00:18:27,785
like rejigging the whole
healthcare system.

582
00:18:27,785 --> 00:18:31,806
We've got 74 vice presidents
there, each earning $300,000 a

583
00:18:31,706 --> 00:18:33,424
year, whatever they're earning.

584
00:18:33,424 --> 00:18:34,838
You know, there's like a whole

585
00:18:34,938 --> 00:18:35,899
bunch of fat in there.

586
00:18:35,899 --> 00:18:37,625
And then we've got $4 billion

587
00:18:37,625 --> 00:18:37,720
contingency.

588
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,335
Like, so once Steve and I are in

589
00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:39,385
then.

590
00:18:39,382 --> 00:18:41,800
Well, I guess if we can take it in

591
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,032
like the real estate direction a
little bit.

592
00:18:43,032 --> 00:18:43,579
Yeah, let's do it.

593
00:18:43,579 --> 00:18:45,336
You've had some exposure on your

594
00:18:45,336 --> 00:18:46,548
own kind of development side of
things.

595
00:18:46,548 --> 00:18:48,199
Where are we at with like red
tape?

596
00:18:48,199 --> 00:18:50,743
Like city of Kelowna is doing a
really good proactive job.

597
00:18:50,743 --> 00:18:52,273
Like they're kind of leading the
problem.

598
00:18:52,273 --> 00:18:53,038
A hundred percent.

599
00:18:53,038 --> 00:18:54,989
But it's still really tough to get

600
00:18:54,989 --> 00:18:57,984
shovels in the ground and build, I
don't know, not affordable

601
00:18:57,984 --> 00:18:59,742
housing, but just build housing in
general.

602
00:18:59,742 --> 00:19:00,915
a little bit.

603
00:19:00,915 --> 00:18:59,742
Yeah, let's do it.

604
00:18:59,742 --> 00:19:00,915
Yeah, for sure.

605
00:19:00,915 --> 00:19:01,456
for sure.

606
00:19:01,456 --> 00:19:01,817
Yeah.

607
00:19:01,817 --> 00:19:03,170
What's been your experience?

608
00:19:03,170 --> 00:19:03,531
Absolutely.

609
00:19:02,087 --> 00:19:04,793
So yeah, we do have a piece of

610
00:19:04,893 --> 00:19:09,017
land that, well, it's not even a
piece of land.

611
00:19:09,017 --> 00:19:12,375
We live on a piece of land that we
just found out a couple of years

612
00:19:12,375 --> 00:19:15,271
ago that there was enough to build
two residential homes on.

613
00:19:15,171 --> 00:19:17,697
So we have been going through the
process here with City Kelowna.

614
00:19:17,697 --> 00:19:19,971
Nothing bad to say about the City
Kelowna.

615
00:19:19,971 --> 00:19:20,255
They're amazing.

616
00:19:20,255 --> 00:19:21,605
Like hands down, super amazing to

617
00:19:21,605 --> 00:19:21,961
deal with.

618
00:19:21,961 --> 00:19:23,415
Super bogged down because there's

619
00:19:23,415 --> 00:19:24,639
so much development going on.

620
00:19:24,639 --> 00:19:26,561
My experience has been that it is

621
00:19:26,561 --> 00:19:30,326
the fees, like the DCCs, the costs
to just get your reports done.

622
00:19:30,226 --> 00:19:33,061
And then we haven't gone through
the permitting process yet.

623
00:19:33,061 --> 00:19:36,097
So I haven't experienced that, but
I have found it quite, it just

624
00:19:36,097 --> 00:19:38,419
takes so much time, right?
Because they have so many

625
00:19:38,419 --> 00:19:40,486
requirements in your reporting and
your geotech and your hydrogeotech

626
00:19:40,486 --> 00:19:42,980
and your, you know, surveying and
all that stuff is just crazy.

627
00:19:42,980 --> 00:19:45,474
And then they charge you a few
thousand dollars for just the

628
00:19:45,474 --> 00:19:45,918
rezone application.

629
00:19:45,918 --> 00:19:49,040
Like I get it because they have to

630
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,736
pay council and stuff, but it's
like, really?

631
00:19:51,724 --> 00:19:51,940
Okay.

632
00:19:52,140 --> 00:19:53,301
So by the time a developer gets a

633
00:19:53,301 --> 00:19:57,413
unit, it's like what, 30% of the
cost of that unit back to the

634
00:19:57,413 --> 00:19:58,920
buyer is like just in fees.

635
00:19:59,580 --> 00:19:59,972
Right.

636
00:19:59,872 --> 00:20:01,648
So if we can streamline things
into like packaged application

637
00:20:01,625 --> 00:20:03,343
products or some sort of
innovative, and I know, like I

638
00:20:03,336 --> 00:20:06,407
went to the infill housing thing a
few weeks ago and it was really

639
00:20:06,507 --> 00:20:08,804
inspiring to see that city of
Kelowna was actually working in

640
00:20:08,804 --> 00:20:10,464
that way where you could sort of
pre.

641
00:20:10,464 --> 00:20:12,984
I think I had like four choices or
something.

642
00:20:12,984 --> 00:20:13,168
Totally.

643
00:20:13,168 --> 00:20:14,200
Like that was amazing.

644
00:20:15,020 --> 00:20:19,681
Like in two weeks, hopefully you
could like buy a piece of land and

645
00:20:19,581 --> 00:20:20,593
here's your templates.

646
00:20:20,493 --> 00:20:23,811
And in two weeks you could be

647
00:20:23,811 --> 00:20:03,387
ready to put your shovel in the
ground.

648
00:20:03,293 --> 00:20:25,178
So that's pretty awesome.

649
00:20:25,178 --> 00:20:26,650
So yeah, anything like in the like

650
00:20:26,629 --> 00:20:29,485
that, that we can do back to the
round table.

651
00:20:29,485 --> 00:20:30,841
I'm a huge supporter of round
tables.

652
00:20:30,841 --> 00:20:31,076
Yes.

653
00:20:31,076 --> 00:20:32,387
there's some sort of a lobby for a

654
00:20:32,387 --> 00:20:34,218
housing round table that needs to
be implemented province wide,

655
00:20:34,218 --> 00:20:36,912
which I would love to see, which
would then bring experts, domain

656
00:20:36,912 --> 00:20:39,853
experts and key stakeholders from
around the province to the table

657
00:20:39,853 --> 00:20:43,245
in a very formal way and under the
ministry responsible, which I

658
00:20:43,245 --> 00:20:46,755
don't think is happening because
they do operate in a bit of an

659
00:20:46,655 --> 00:20:47,241
echo chamber.

660
00:20:47,241 --> 00:20:48,200
They don't consult.

661
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,967
So I think, you know, in those two
areas alone, we have lots of room

662
00:20:52,867 --> 00:20:53,411
for improvement.

663
00:20:53,411 --> 00:20:55,126
And then once the rates start

664
00:20:55,126 --> 00:20:59,800
coming down, and I actually am one
to say, like as an independent, I

665
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,610
love learning and I love taking
all the information in and

666
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:03,121
digesting.

667
00:21:03,021 --> 00:21:04,629
And so I would refrain from

668
00:21:04,529 --> 00:21:08,168
sitting here and saying that I
have a whole bunch of great policy

669
00:21:08,168 --> 00:21:12,053
ideas because I think this whole
area, we need to really rely on

670
00:21:12,053 --> 00:21:15,975
what the industry is saying, and
we need to get to the table really

671
00:21:15,975 --> 00:21:17,734
fast once we're all in.

672
00:21:17,634 --> 00:21:17,871
Yeah.

673
00:21:17,871 --> 00:21:20,004
I mean, that's been a huge one,
like province-wide they've come

674
00:21:20,004 --> 00:21:22,928
out with a lot of policies that
then they have to change their

675
00:21:22,928 --> 00:21:23,955
mind like a month later.

676
00:21:23,955 --> 00:21:24,240
Yeah.

677
00:21:24,340 --> 00:21:27,211
Like Like tenancy, it's just a
clear, like how obvious is that?

678
00:21:27,211 --> 00:21:28,168
Because of this podcast.

679
00:21:28,268 --> 00:21:28,666
Yeah.

680
00:21:28,666 --> 00:21:29,145
Yeah.

681
00:21:29,045 --> 00:21:30,560
We take- Well, actually question

682
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,831
back to you guys and the
listeners, like, have they

683
00:21:33,831 --> 00:21:35,343
consulted with anyone on these
things?

684
00:21:35,243 --> 00:21:38,296
I mean, I just don't understand
how they come up with these ideas.

685
00:21:38,296 --> 00:21:40,985
Well, obviously they haven't, but
I think... I think it's pretty

686
00:21:40,985 --> 00:21:41,480
minimal.

687
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,848
I know that our board pushes back.

688
00:21:43,848 --> 00:21:47,252
We have, like, we lobby back
against these things when they

689
00:21:47,225 --> 00:21:47,701
come up.

690
00:21:47,701 --> 00:21:48,938
So I know that's happening.

691
00:21:48,911 --> 00:21:50,423
How effective it is, I don't know.

692
00:21:50,423 --> 00:21:51,331
The vacancy went from two months

693
00:21:51,331 --> 00:21:53,246
to four months, then we got it
down to three months.

694
00:21:53,246 --> 00:21:56,096
So, like, is that a win i think
that's probably a win yeah and a

695
00:21:56,196 --> 00:21:59,292
win yeah and that's again this is
going to be how it's going to be

696
00:21:59,292 --> 00:22:03,035
we're going to have to be okay
with probably small wins for a

697
00:22:02,935 --> 00:22:05,862
little bit because there's so many
changes that have to take place

698
00:22:05,862 --> 00:22:08,766
across the board what's your
stance on airbnbs and what the

699
00:22:08,766 --> 00:22:11,881
problems your stance on airbnbs
and what the problems with the

700
00:22:11,881 --> 00:22:15,187
city's been been yeah i just
posted about this the other day

701
00:22:15,187 --> 00:22:18,044
and it was a really engaging
conversation that came out of it i

702
00:22:18,044 --> 00:22:21,473
am a made in kelowna bring it back
solution kind of person so i don't

703
00:22:21,373 --> 00:22:25,507
have the data yet i was trying to
get in touch with the airport

704
00:22:25,407 --> 00:22:28,143
authority yesterday to see how our
flights in and out were looking

705
00:22:28,143 --> 00:22:30,317
for the summer because everyone's
saying we've had this huge

706
00:22:30,317 --> 00:22:32,832
decrease in tourism yet i'm
speaking to the tourism kelowna

707
00:22:32,832 --> 00:22:35,092
and whatever you know all these
organizations and they're saying

708
00:22:35,092 --> 00:22:37,869
no tourism isn't down and i'm like
organizations, and they're saying,

709
00:22:37,869 --> 00:22:38,681
tourism no, isn't down.

710
00:22:38,681 --> 00:22:40,262
And I'm like, but it's like, for

711
00:22:40,262 --> 00:22:40,656
sure.

712
00:22:40,656 --> 00:22:41,882
They're saying tourism isn't down?

713
00:22:41,782 --> 00:22:41,895
Yeah.

714
00:22:41,895 --> 00:22:42,233
It's funny.

715
00:22:42,233 --> 00:22:44,642
I've reached out a few times to a
few different organizations,

716
00:22:44,642 --> 00:22:48,000
tourism, Kelowna, and like, no one
will come on or share the data

717
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:48,878
with it.

718
00:22:48,973 --> 00:22:49,802
Because we don't have anything

719
00:22:49,884 --> 00:22:50,084
yet.

720
00:22:49,966 --> 00:22:51,378
But it's pretty have obvious.

721
00:22:51,378 --> 00:22:52,360
You walk down the street.

722
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:54,246
In the middle of August, I went to

723
00:22:54,246 --> 00:22:55,720
Earl's right downtown, middle of
August.

724
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,510
It was like a weekday, like one in
the afternoon or something.

725
00:22:58,510 --> 00:23:00,920
We were the only table in the
middle of August.

726
00:23:01,020 --> 00:23:02,144
Probably the best restaurant in
Kelowna, like best location

727
00:23:02,144 --> 00:23:02,244
anyway.

728
00:23:02,344 --> 00:23:02,675
Yeah.

729
00:23:02,575 --> 00:23:04,678
How do they say that the tourism
went down?

730
00:23:04,678 --> 00:23:07,036
Right?
So did you get anything from the

731
00:23:07,036 --> 00:23:07,474
airport?
anything from the airport?

732
00:23:07,474 --> 00:23:07,809
Not yet.

733
00:23:07,778 --> 00:23:09,733
I'm just waiting for them to call

734
00:23:09,729 --> 00:23:10,150
me back.

735
00:23:10,135 --> 00:23:10,940
I'll call them today.

736
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,774
But I really, okay.

737
00:23:11,774 --> 00:23:13,775
So the Airbnb thing, we need it

738
00:23:13,775 --> 00:23:16,060
back in Kelowna because Kelowna is
a tourism destination.

739
00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:19,099
It is not unlike a lot of the
different places in British

740
00:23:19,096 --> 00:23:20,698
Columbia, but we just need a made
in Kelowna solution.

741
00:23:20,698 --> 00:23:22,400
Like we get that there's these
huge roaring raging parties and

742
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:24,879
these mansions, we get it.

743
00:23:24,879 --> 00:23:25,255
Okay.

744
00:23:25,255 --> 00:23:26,263
Well, let's address that.

745
00:23:26,263 --> 00:23:26,449
Can we rezone parts of Kelowna?

746
00:23:26,449 --> 00:23:26,649
Right.

747
00:23:26,635 --> 00:23:27,984
And so maybe it's that we find a

748
00:23:27,984 --> 00:23:28,123
solution.

749
00:23:28,123 --> 00:23:29,431
The other thing that came back to

750
00:23:29,431 --> 00:23:32,524
me yesterday, and this is going to
be for your listeners, is that

751
00:23:32,524 --> 00:23:35,552
we've got this sort of, I guess,
an oversupply pending of rentals

752
00:23:35,553 --> 00:23:38,026
coming down the road and hotels
are being built in Vancouver, like

753
00:23:36,231 --> 00:23:38,026
I just read in Business in
Vancouver Not today.

754
00:23:38,026 --> 00:23:40,842
So that's new news to me as of
this morning, that what we're

755
00:23:40,842 --> 00:23:44,644
going to be looking at in the next
five to seven years is like an

756
00:23:44,644 --> 00:23:44,907
oversupply of accommodation.

757
00:23:44,907 --> 00:23:48,331
So if there was any time to open

758
00:23:48,331 --> 00:23:51,059
up our market, it would be now for
Airbnb.

759
00:23:51,059 --> 00:23:51,362
Airbnb.

760
00:23:51,362 --> 00:23:52,373
On that point.

761
00:23:52,373 --> 00:23:54,606
So actually, we recorded an
episode with Wendy Waters.

762
00:23:54,606 --> 00:23:56,187
I'll be released in a couple of
weeks.

763
00:23:56,187 --> 00:23:58,513
She's like director of basically
pension funds, like huge data

764
00:23:58,513 --> 00:23:59,167
analysis on it.

765
00:23:59,167 --> 00:24:00,333
So there's still a massive

766
00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:02,019
shortage for like the housing
supply and we need purpose-built

767
00:24:02,019 --> 00:24:03,713
rentals, but that's a generic
across Canada and BC, but like

768
00:24:03,713 --> 00:24:04,392
Kelowna specific kind of agree.

769
00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:05,830
Like if you're in the industry or

770
00:24:05,890 --> 00:24:07,577
you just drive down the street,
you're seeing a ton of rentals

771
00:24:07,577 --> 00:24:10,316
being built and the rental market
Kelowna wise is starting to soften

772
00:24:10,316 --> 00:24:10,726
quite a bit.

773
00:24:10,726 --> 00:24:13,530
So we are achieving that.

774
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:16,171
Maybe we need to kind of shift
focus a little bit instead of

775
00:24:16,271 --> 00:24:18,600
just, you know, building 400
purpose-built rentals or just

776
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:18,871
condos.

777
00:24:18,871 --> 00:24:20,766
Like we need to fill that middle

778
00:24:20,766 --> 00:24:21,240
ground.

779
00:24:21,420 --> 00:24:22,639
Yeah, I don't see any new mega

780
00:24:22,632 --> 00:24:23,263
hotels going in.

781
00:24:23,363 --> 00:24:24,669
I don't think that there's any

782
00:24:24,669 --> 00:24:26,042
hotel or maybe not many anyway.

783
00:24:26,042 --> 00:24:27,331
or maybe not many anyway.

784
00:24:27,331 --> 00:24:30,977
And I know the city of Kelowna, if
they're listening or anyone from

785
00:24:30,977 --> 00:24:33,220
the city, I know they are
collecting data.

786
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,435
And I know the city of if they're
listening or anyone from the I

787
00:24:36,435 --> 00:24:37,756
know they are collecting data.

788
00:24:37,756 --> 00:24:38,880
Kelowna, city, And I have spoken

789
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,036
to the mayor about this this
summer because we did do a visit

790
00:24:40,991 --> 00:24:42,378
with them when we were with Kevin
Falcon.

791
00:24:42,378 --> 00:24:45,913
And they said they are in the
process of collecting data.

792
00:24:45,913 --> 00:24:49,360
So anyway, at the end of the day,
I support bringing Airbnb back in

793
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,134
a made in Kelowna strategy.

794
00:24:51,034 --> 00:24:51,947
So working with the province has

795
00:24:51,947 --> 00:24:53,977
their the province has their rules
for Airbnb, right?

796
00:24:53,977 --> 00:24:57,307
That kind of screwed over Aqua and
Caban and all that.

797
00:24:57,407 --> 00:25:00,460
But what about like Kelowna added
their own rules where you can't

798
00:25:00,460 --> 00:25:03,731
Airbnb your basement suite, you
know, like, so like, will you do

799
00:25:03,631 --> 00:25:05,834
any work to push back against the
city about that part?

800
00:25:05,834 --> 00:25:06,474
Because that's not provincial.

801
00:25:06,474 --> 00:25:06,572
Yeah.

802
00:25:06,572 --> 00:25:06,720
Yeah.

803
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,508
I think Yeah.

804
00:25:07,508 --> 00:25:07,708
Yeah.

805
00:25:07,705 --> 00:25:09,449
I think that again, the maid in

806
00:25:09,349 --> 00:25:13,503
Kelowna collaborating with the
municipality is a key, right?

807
00:25:13,503 --> 00:25:17,863
So we have to work together and
that's going to require some hard

808
00:25:17,863 --> 00:25:20,775
discussions, but you know, I'm a
big numbers and a data person.

809
00:25:20,775 --> 00:25:22,529
So I want to see it all.

810
00:25:22,529 --> 00:25:24,222
I want to see all the data.

811
00:25:24,222 --> 00:25:25,778
I want to see the numbers.

812
00:25:25,778 --> 00:25:28,562
And I think that's how we're going

813
00:25:28,562 --> 00:25:29,721
to have to make our decisions.

814
00:25:29,721 --> 00:25:31,247
Like maybe it's that we have to

815
00:25:31,247 --> 00:25:33,882
find a solution for those
particular types of rentals,

816
00:25:33,982 --> 00:25:36,504
right?
Like why can't we create a custom

817
00:25:36,504 --> 00:25:38,184
solution that's different for
every kind of different situation?

818
00:25:38,184 --> 00:25:39,871
I don't think that's that
complicated.

819
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:43,453
You know, from what I understand,
that's what we've been allowed to

820
00:25:43,453 --> 00:25:47,262
keep is residential where you live
in the home Airbnbs.

821
00:25:47,262 --> 00:25:50,369
Provincially, yes, but in yes, but
in Kelowna, you can't.

822
00:25:50,369 --> 00:25:51,360
Kelowna, you can't.

823
00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:53,476
Okay, so I wasn't aware of aware

824
00:25:53,576 --> 00:25:54,158
of that.

825
00:25:54,158 --> 00:25:55,591
So there's 498 that were

826
00:25:55,591 --> 00:25:57,017
grandfathered in when the rule
came in.

827
00:25:57,117 --> 00:26:01,669
So if you had one that was an
Airbnb, it it could stay but now a

828
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:04,668
bunch of them have either sold
their house or not renewed their

829
00:26:04,768 --> 00:26:08,288
license so now it's like down to
like 450 but you can't get a new

830
00:26:08,388 --> 00:26:12,180
Airbnb suite in your basement
suite it has to be long-term

831
00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:14,114
rental you can't get a new
business license yeah because they

832
00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:17,125
weren't grandfathered in or get a
new new license because they

833
00:26:17,125 --> 00:26:19,435
weren't grandfathered in or
whatever if they sold and bought

834
00:26:19,435 --> 00:26:20,602
the ones that were that's really
bizarre that just makes absolutely

835
00:26:20,602 --> 00:26:23,516
no sense it makes no sense it's
just weird like if it was already

836
00:26:23,516 --> 00:26:24,723
again, this is like where
legislation, like a lot of it just

837
00:26:24,676 --> 00:26:24,747
doesn't make sense.

838
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:24,760
the ones that Well, I think the

839
00:26:24,740 --> 00:26:31,100
big one is the volatility in those
decisions.

840
00:26:31,045 --> 00:26:31,100
Like it went to public hearing.

841
00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:31,100
That was maybe we had a five, six

842
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:33,468
month kind of runway to discuss
it, but the decision was obviously

843
00:26:33,432 --> 00:26:33,720
already made.

844
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,707
But the volatility being that,

845
00:26:34,807 --> 00:26:36,118
yes, someone bought this or a
developer is building this.

846
00:26:35,982 --> 00:26:37,087
And then we change the
legislation.

847
00:26:37,052 --> 00:26:39,680
It's like, well, how can we really
have any confidence in what

848
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,406
government says, you know, to make
any decisions?

849
00:26:40,406 --> 00:26:41,940
And that's what people need.

850
00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:42,915
Business owners, developers,

851
00:26:42,915 --> 00:26:46,427
homeowners, like we need a little
bit of confidence that what you

852
00:26:46,427 --> 00:26:48,080
say is what's going to come to
fruition.

853
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,153
Yeah, we've experienced
experienced this in many different

854
00:26:50,053 --> 00:26:50,160
industries.

855
00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:51,252
So of course, with the animation

856
00:26:51,252 --> 00:26:53,228
tax credit, we kind of got this
notice in April.

857
00:26:53,228 --> 00:26:55,801
So in the region, you know, this
is just to illustrate how the

858
00:26:55,801 --> 00:26:58,573
government has been operating in
multiple different industries, not

859
00:26:58,573 --> 00:27:00,096
just real estate and Airbnb.

860
00:26:59,996 --> 00:27:02,015
But in the industry, we have a 12%

861
00:27:02,015 --> 00:27:05,425
additional tax credit on labor to
incentivize the region to make

862
00:27:05,325 --> 00:27:06,734
more animation happen here, which
is amazing, right?

863
00:27:06,834 --> 00:27:07,759
We create hundreds of jobs.

864
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:08,784
It's millions of dollars back into

865
00:27:08,784 --> 00:27:09,168
the economy.

866
00:27:09,168 --> 00:27:09,816
It's been great for Kelowna.

867
00:27:09,816 --> 00:27:10,699
Sent us a memo in April.

868
00:27:10,689 --> 00:27:11,687
We're going to be stopping access

869
00:27:11,638 --> 00:27:13,845
to the tax credit for animation
studios by June 1st.

870
00:27:13,845 --> 00:27:14,158
Wow.

871
00:27:14,158 --> 00:27:15,956
So like no notice, there were

872
00:27:15,956 --> 00:27:18,662
millions of dollars of bids out
there.

873
00:27:18,662 --> 00:27:18,828
Done.

874
00:27:18,828 --> 00:27:19,604
Fought it with Renee.

875
00:27:19,604 --> 00:27:20,712
Tried our hardest.

876
00:27:20,712 --> 00:27:23,040
No, we just don't want to have

877
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,262
people working from home.

878
00:27:24,262 --> 00:27:26,402
We don't think that this is a

879
00:27:26,502 --> 00:27:28,801
fair, like there was no other
reason.

880
00:27:28,801 --> 00:27:29,190
Law Society.

881
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:31,669
So we just went and met with a

882
00:27:31,769 --> 00:27:34,679
whole bunch of lawyers last week,
Steve, myself and Michael, and

883
00:27:34,679 --> 00:27:36,252
they're making changes to our
rights to legal representation

884
00:27:36,252 --> 00:27:36,718
right now.

885
00:27:36,252 --> 00:27:37,650
Across the board, these decisions

886
00:27:37,650 --> 00:27:40,695
are being made in the ledge by a
government who actually avoids

887
00:27:40,695 --> 00:27:41,727
debate and stops debates on these
things.

888
00:27:41,727 --> 00:27:43,793
Like they have actually, you know,
in some cases not even allowed

889
00:27:43,793 --> 00:27:46,891
debate or stopped it or slowed it
down on some of these bills.

890
00:27:46,891 --> 00:27:47,866
So they're like pushing things
through.

891
00:27:47,866 --> 00:27:49,742
Now what's the why?
I have no idea, no idea.

892
00:27:49,742 --> 00:27:52,904
I don't know if it's because it's
just command and control to try

893
00:27:52,904 --> 00:27:55,033
and like preserve, you income
know, or I revenue.

894
00:27:55,033 --> 00:27:53,618
don't actually know the but
answers, it's just command and

895
00:27:54,053 --> 00:27:57,319
control to try and like preserve,
you income know, or revenue.

896
00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:59,830
I don't actually know the answers,
but it's really disturbing.

897
00:27:59,830 --> 00:28:02,800
Like how are you supposed to have
predictability as a business

898
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,984
owner, as an operator, making a
plan, like a strategic plan, when

899
00:28:05,984 --> 00:28:08,406
you just have the like threat of a
government changing.

900
00:28:08,406 --> 00:27:58,797
And again, the importance of an
independent, right?

901
00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:12,072
And so we're not in either party.

902
00:28:12,072 --> 00:28:14,821
we can kind of act as an ally

903
00:28:14,821 --> 00:28:17,513
against or for the party in those
particular moments and fight for

904
00:28:17,513 --> 00:28:21,823
what we need so yeah i see it as
like an opportunity for us right

905
00:28:21,723 --> 00:28:26,172
now i saw actually i think if
actually i think if shane styles

906
00:28:26,172 --> 00:28:30,527
would have a post on the numbers
and you were i know we were

907
00:28:30,527 --> 00:28:33,725
talking about like mathematician
before this where are we kind of

908
00:28:33,625 --> 00:28:38,415
at right now i think shane said
there was like 43 seats ndp 44 oh

909
00:28:38,415 --> 00:28:40,916
yeah like where are we kind of at
right now?

910
00:28:40,916 --> 00:28:43,174
I think Shane said there was like
43 seats, NDP 44.

911
00:28:43,274 --> 00:28:44,194
Oh, yeah.

912
00:28:44,094 --> 00:28:45,803
Like, where are we kind of

913
00:28:45,803 --> 00:28:47,380
polling, I guess?
You know?

914
00:28:47,380 --> 00:28:48,091
You know?
Yeah.

915
00:28:48,091 --> 00:28:51,132
So I can't actually give anybody
any kind of confidence in what the

916
00:28:51,032 --> 00:28:53,602
polls are saying, because they
don't even have our names on the

917
00:28:53,602 --> 00:28:54,578
website, this poll website.

918
00:28:54,578 --> 00:28:55,349
It's pretty awesome.

919
00:28:55,349 --> 00:28:58,963
I'm like, so there's 40 people
running across the province that

920
00:28:58,963 --> 00:28:59,988
you haven't accounted for.

921
00:28:59,988 --> 00:29:01,658
So let's just like away from the

922
00:29:01,658 --> 00:29:01,933
polls.

923
00:29:01,933 --> 00:29:03,477
The prediction seems to be that

924
00:29:03,477 --> 00:29:06,113
we're going to end up with a bit
of a split.

925
00:29:06,113 --> 00:29:08,123
So we have 93 seats going down to
the ledge.

926
00:29:08,104 --> 00:29:09,577
They've added six more this year.

927
00:29:09,677 --> 00:29:11,181
That's why you hear all this stuff

928
00:29:11,081 --> 00:29:12,769
about they're making more room in
the legislature.

929
00:29:12,769 --> 00:29:15,774
So they're like creating more
desks and seats because we have

930
00:29:15,674 --> 00:29:16,191
six new ridings.

931
00:29:16,291 --> 00:29:18,392
So they've split the ridings up.

932
00:29:18,392 --> 00:29:20,276
So just very like layman terms.

933
00:29:20,276 --> 00:29:20,421
Okay.

934
00:29:20,421 --> 00:29:23,520
So like now we have Kelowna
center, for instance, that's one

935
00:29:23,481 --> 00:29:23,761
additional writing.

936
00:29:23,722 --> 00:29:23,964
Okay.

937
00:29:23,964 --> 00:29:25,090
So, and that's happened across the
province.

938
00:29:25,090 --> 00:29:28,200
The prediction seems to be that
it's going to sort of net out like

939
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,900
42, 43 with a bunch of seats in
the middle, like six.

940
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:31,164
That's ideal for you guys.

941
00:29:31,164 --> 00:29:31,660
layman six.

942
00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:33,340
That's ideal for you guys.

943
00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:33,541
Yeah.

944
00:29:33,541 --> 00:29:33,944
Yeah.

945
00:29:33,944 --> 00:29:37,207
And I, and I think there's actual

946
00:29:37,307 --> 00:29:42,018
real possibility of this because
the math says that of 17 vetted BC

947
00:29:42,018 --> 00:29:46,175
United independents in those
writings, they are the strongest

948
00:29:46,175 --> 00:29:48,820
candidate like Steve and Michael.

949
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,986
And, you know, we do have some

950
00:29:50,986 --> 00:29:53,641
incumbent MLAs, Dan Davies, Corley
Oaks, Mike Bernier, Tom Shipitka.

951
00:29:53,641 --> 00:29:55,189
Those are four star candidates in
those writings.

952
00:29:55,189 --> 00:29:57,424
They will win as far as I'm
predicting.

953
00:29:57,424 --> 00:29:59,652
So again, there's four, five, six,
hopefully myself, seven, and then

954
00:29:59,652 --> 00:30:00,399
a few more.

955
00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:02,940
Like we could have seven or 10

956
00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:04,659
people sitting in that balance of
power.

957
00:30:04,497 --> 00:30:04,697
Right.

958
00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:04,930
And so then you'd have a minority

959
00:30:05,016 --> 00:30:05,438
and a majority government and then
a bunch in between.

960
00:30:05,425 --> 00:30:05,475
Yeah.

961
00:30:05,462 --> 00:30:05,673
It's pretty awesome.

962
00:30:05,722 --> 00:30:06,283
That is pretty pretty awesome.

963
00:30:06,283 --> 00:30:06,598
Yeah.

964
00:30:06,598 --> 00:30:07,102
Yeah.

965
00:30:07,102 --> 00:30:08,487
So that's where Shane's getting

966
00:30:08,487 --> 00:30:10,187
his numbers from, I think.

967
00:30:10,187 --> 00:30:10,880
So, yeah.

968
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,061
And then, yeah, like Matt touched
on before, which was a good point.

969
00:30:14,161 --> 00:30:16,656
So municipality wise, like, yeah,
we vote for you in this riding,

970
00:30:16,656 --> 00:30:18,869
but you're kind of the voice in
Victoria.

971
00:30:18,769 --> 00:30:21,163
How does that affect Kelowna
people then?

972
00:30:21,163 --> 00:30:21,954
Like other ridings?
Yeah.

973
00:30:21,954 --> 00:30:23,694
Oh, well, that's a great question.

974
00:30:23,694 --> 00:30:24,722
Myself, Steve and Michael, even

975
00:30:24,722 --> 00:30:28,461
Kevin Acton in Vernon and Greg
McKeown in Salmon Arm, similar

976
00:30:28,461 --> 00:30:30,839
issues across the valley, right?
We've got farms across the valley.

977
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,485
We're dealing with the same
climate issues, a lot of the same

978
00:30:33,485 --> 00:30:34,003
economic issues.

979
00:30:34,003 --> 00:30:34,406
We could potentially be or are

980
00:30:34,406 --> 00:30:35,959
resource-driven towns, tech, all
the things somewhat similar.

981
00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:38,427
In that way, all of us have been
already working together for the

982
00:30:38,426 --> 00:30:39,574
last six months.

983
00:30:39,573 --> 00:30:40,471
So we have got these fabulous

984
00:30:40,471 --> 00:30:41,733
relationships to the point where
we're like family.

985
00:30:41,733 --> 00:30:42,632
You know, I call up Steve every
morning.

986
00:30:42,632 --> 00:30:43,602
I'm like, how's your day going,
man?

987
00:30:43,573 --> 00:30:44,800
And we kind of cry and we laugh.

988
00:30:44,771 --> 00:30:45,727
And today we're meeting again.

989
00:30:45,627 --> 00:30:47,733
So there's a really great
relationship and we're all very

990
00:30:47,733 --> 00:30:48,728
values similar.

991
00:30:48,628 --> 00:30:48,717
Right.

992
00:30:48,717 --> 00:30:52,207
And so what's really neat about
that is that we're not just

993
00:30:52,207 --> 00:30:54,977
papered independents running all
over the place that don't know

994
00:30:54,977 --> 00:30:55,661
each other.

995
00:30:55,561 --> 00:30:56,961
We have already built our

996
00:30:56,961 --> 00:30:57,136
relationships.

997
00:30:57,136 --> 00:30:58,905
So when we're together down there,

998
00:30:59,005 --> 00:31:02,684
Steve, myself and Michael can band
together on a particular policy

999
00:31:02,684 --> 00:31:06,563
that would benefit Kelowna or West
Kelowna or Kelowna Mission.

1000
00:31:06,463 --> 00:31:10,167
And that would be something like,
for an example, something for the

1001
00:31:10,167 --> 00:31:10,315
wineries.

1002
00:31:10,315 --> 00:31:11,605
We have wineries all through the

1003
00:31:11,605 --> 00:31:12,787
valley, perhaps not in Kelowna
Center, but transportation, that

1004
00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:14,746
affects all of us, right?
This whole announcement of the

1005
00:31:14,646 --> 00:31:16,525
bridge, like, oh my gosh, that's a
whole other podcast.

1006
00:31:16,525 --> 00:31:17,470
Like good luck with that.

1007
00:31:17,470 --> 00:31:17,785
Neat.

1008
00:31:17,785 --> 00:31:20,682
But on major issues that affect
all three communities at the exact

1009
00:31:20,682 --> 00:31:23,795
same time, that's where it's ideal
because we can kind of bring our

1010
00:31:23,795 --> 00:31:26,735
heads together in the same value
system and say, okay, well, what

1011
00:31:26,735 --> 00:31:28,858
will work for Kelowna Center
versus Kelowna Mission versus West

1012
00:31:28,858 --> 00:31:30,939
Kelowna and then work together on
that.

1013
00:31:30,939 --> 00:31:31,603
So pretty cool.

1014
00:31:31,602 --> 00:31:32,996
The majority of the independents,

1015
00:31:32,996 --> 00:31:35,459
are they in the interior then?
Yeah, I would say we have quite a

1016
00:31:35,459 --> 00:31:36,008
few here.

1017
00:31:36,008 --> 00:31:38,640
We've got one, two, three, four,

1018
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:39,500
five, six.

1019
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:39,500
Yeah, I would say we're like half

1020
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:39,980
and half.

1021
00:31:39,980 --> 00:31:41,708
And then we've got some up in the

1022
00:31:41,708 --> 00:31:44,960
north and then some down on the
coast too, which is great because

1023
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,940
the coast is typically an orange
coast.

1024
00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:52,780
And what I think is happening from
what we've heard on the doors are

1025
00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:55,848
really going political today on a
real estate podcast, but the doors

1026
00:31:55,748 --> 00:31:59,263
are that traditional NDP voters
are actually moving more center

1027
00:31:59,263 --> 00:32:02,094
into our tent because they're sort
of disenfranchised about what's

1028
00:32:02,094 --> 00:32:02,397
going on.

1029
00:32:02,397 --> 00:32:04,555
So we'll hopefully see some more

1030
00:32:04,555 --> 00:32:06,068
independents elected down there,
too.

1031
00:32:06,068 --> 00:32:06,431
Yeah.

1032
00:32:06,331 --> 00:32:07,542
Can I suggest a policy proposal?

1033
00:32:07,542 --> 00:32:07,663
Sure.

1034
00:32:07,663 --> 00:32:09,660
Okay, so the way our RTB goes, we

1035
00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:11,072
need to allow fixed term
tendencies.

1036
00:32:10,972 --> 00:32:13,700
So a tendency when you start and
there's an end date because we're

1037
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:15,702
a college town and also a tourism
town.

1038
00:32:15,702 --> 00:32:18,740
So you have university, we have
another campus coming downtown.

1039
00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:22,188
We should be allowed to have
housing where we have students

1040
00:32:22,188 --> 00:32:24,693
live there from September till end
of May or June or whatever.

1041
00:32:24,684 --> 00:32:27,160
And then Airbnb or like short-term
rentals for the summer.

1042
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,241
We also have a lot of people that
go down south every winter.

1043
00:32:29,241 --> 00:32:33,900
So I have clients who are like,
Matt, can you introduce me to a

1044
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,813
property manager?
We're going to be gone for eight

1045
00:32:36,713 --> 00:32:36,965
months.

1046
00:32:36,965 --> 00:32:39,180
We want to rent our place out.

1047
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:43,780
The property manager goes in there
and tells them what the rules are.

1048
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,082
Basically, you could not have a
home when you get back because you

1049
00:32:47,182 --> 00:32:50,745
have a tenant in there that the
RTB will never let you get out to

1050
00:32:50,745 --> 00:32:53,018
move back in.

1051
00:32:52,918 --> 00:32:55,761
So then now we just have these

1052
00:32:55,861 --> 00:32:58,879
vacant houses that for no reason,
because you can't just have a

1053
00:32:58,879 --> 00:32:59,978
fixed term tenancy that ends.

1054
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:00,223
Yeah.

1055
00:33:00,223 --> 00:33:03,092
I don't know why this isn't
already a thing, no why this isn't

1056
00:33:03,192 --> 00:33:04,794
already a thing, but we've fixed a
lot of problems.

1057
00:33:04,684 --> 00:33:04,884
Yeah.

1058
00:33:04,874 --> 00:33:06,256
A hundred A hundred percent.

1059
00:33:06,256 --> 00:33:06,440
Yeah.

1060
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,399
And again, back to the round table

1061
00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:12,072
and the consultations, like have
we got a round table on not just

1062
00:33:12,072 --> 00:33:14,902
housing creation, but maybe more
specifically a task force around

1063
00:33:14,902 --> 00:33:15,577
rental in BC.

1064
00:33:15,577 --> 00:33:17,497
And it sounds like it's kind of

1065
00:33:17,497 --> 00:33:18,586
hitting this wall right now.

1066
00:33:18,586 --> 00:33:19,416
We've given too much.

1067
00:33:19,409 --> 00:33:20,862
And this is with everything.

1068
00:33:20,862 --> 00:33:23,492
It's just we're going too far

1069
00:33:23,492 --> 00:33:23,743
left.

1070
00:33:23,843 --> 00:33:24,872
It's too far.

1071
00:33:24,872 --> 00:33:26,369
Like we need a balance.

1072
00:33:26,369 --> 00:33:26,547
But yeah.

1073
00:33:26,547 --> 00:33:28,868
And then I think too, like
advocacy.

1074
00:33:28,868 --> 00:33:31,083
So community members, you know,
like yourself should be advocating

1075
00:33:31,083 --> 00:33:34,043
and using your voices to write
letters and make sure your voice

1076
00:33:34,043 --> 00:33:34,782
is heard.

1077
00:33:34,782 --> 00:33:36,628
And even back to things like

1078
00:33:36,628 --> 00:33:39,450
change.org, you know, you can
distribute these things.

1079
00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:40,081
They are powerful.

1080
00:33:39,981 --> 00:33:41,905
We distributed a change.org survey

1081
00:33:41,905 --> 00:33:43,225
around the animation tax credit.

1082
00:33:43,325 --> 00:33:45,763
I think we got 1500 signatures.

1083
00:33:45,663 --> 00:33:46,639
It wasn't successful.

1084
00:33:46,639 --> 00:33:49,077
It just, these are the loud voices

1085
00:33:49,077 --> 00:33:49,889
behind us.

1086
00:33:49,889 --> 00:33:51,596
Yeah, a hundred percent.

1087
00:33:51,596 --> 00:33:53,869
And I think people like really
have an opportunity in British

1088
00:33:53,869 --> 00:33:55,378
Columbia right now in the real
estate industry, housing,

1089
00:33:55,378 --> 00:33:57,392
construction, development, all
industries to not just sit and let

1090
00:33:57,392 --> 00:33:59,680
it happen, like really get in
there and engage.

1091
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,974
And like, you know, I think that's
the one thing that if I'm going to

1092
00:34:02,974 --> 00:34:06,305
like promote myself a little bit
here, like I have a cell phone and

1093
00:34:06,305 --> 00:34:09,789
I should be using it, like phone
me and tell me what you want done.

1094
00:34:09,789 --> 00:34:11,056
And I will answer the phone.

1095
00:34:11,056 --> 00:34:12,485
And I think that's the difference.

1096
00:34:12,485 --> 00:34:14,612
We're shifting into a new era of
politics where we have potentially

1097
00:34:14,612 --> 00:34:17,031
real humans going in that aren't
interested in being a politician.

1098
00:34:17,031 --> 00:34:20,531
I'm actually interested in hearing
what you have to say because I'm

1099
00:34:20,531 --> 00:34:23,239
one of you and I'm not in this for
me.

1100
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,083
I'm in this to make it better.

1101
00:34:24,984 --> 00:34:25,283
Like truly.

1102
00:34:25,283 --> 00:34:27,924
And I think that's where we have
these independents who have

1103
00:34:27,922 --> 00:34:31,311
literally thrown our whole lives
on the line in this crazy ass type

1104
00:34:31,311 --> 00:34:32,514
of campaign that is so
unsupported.

1105
00:34:32,514 --> 00:34:35,951
And so like, not even having
listing in a polls on a website,

1106
00:34:35,951 --> 00:34:40,534
like we're kind of these like,
candidates hanging around, but and

1107
00:34:40,435 --> 00:34:41,226
that's a huge.

1108
00:34:41,226 --> 00:34:43,885
Anyway, so in that alone, alone,

1109
00:34:43,885 --> 00:34:45,116
sucks for you guys.

1110
00:34:45,116 --> 00:34:46,306
But honestly, it's almost better

1111
00:34:46,306 --> 00:34:49,364
because it proves the point of
like, hey, we're voting for the

1112
00:34:49,364 --> 00:34:53,270
person who actually wants to, like
they're in it for the right

1113
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:53,398
reasons.

1114
00:34:53,398 --> 00:34:55,002
it for the right reasons.

1115
00:34:55,002 --> 00:34:55,387
Yeah, totally.

1116
00:34:55,387 --> 00:34:58,055
And I do feel that way about these

1117
00:34:58,055 --> 00:34:58,263
people.

1118
00:34:58,263 --> 00:35:00,487
It is funny to bring up not being

1119
00:35:00,487 --> 00:35:01,932
on the polls.

1120
00:35:01,932 --> 00:35:02,942
I always gripe that.

1121
00:35:02,942 --> 00:35:04,694
I'm like, nobody ever asked me
what I think.

1122
00:35:04,694 --> 00:35:06,046
They have all these polls out.

1123
00:35:06,046 --> 00:35:07,538
So I was asked and you're right.

1124
00:35:07,538 --> 00:35:10,120
You were not even on, I guess in
our writing, it's Dr. Humor.

1125
00:35:10,097 --> 00:35:11,948
But like it was, are you voting
conservative, NDP or green?

1126
00:35:11,825 --> 00:35:12,800
Yeah, you get it.

1127
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,059
So those are the text messages.

1128
00:35:14,059 --> 00:35:15,362
I'm getting the same.

1129
00:35:15,262 --> 00:35:16,357
And you know what's what's really

1130
00:35:16,357 --> 00:35:18,813
awesome is like, don't you love
the one you get from the BC

1131
00:35:18,813 --> 00:35:19,929
Conservatives that you didn't sign
up for?

1132
00:35:19,929 --> 00:35:20,567
Something's going on there.

1133
00:35:20,567 --> 00:35:22,067
Like, I never signed up for the BC

1134
00:35:22,067 --> 00:35:24,097
Conservatives, so how'd you get my
cell phone?

1135
00:35:23,997 --> 00:35:25,926
Like, really?
BC To circle back quick, just on

1136
00:35:25,926 --> 00:35:26,962
the RTB stuff.

1137
00:35:26,962 --> 00:35:28,441
I mean, Matt and I should know

1138
00:35:28,441 --> 00:35:29,733
this probably more than you, but I
want to ask anyways, who's driving

1139
00:35:29,733 --> 00:35:30,872
that?
Like, is it the province pushing

1140
00:35:30,772 --> 00:35:33,213
the RTB or the other way around?
Like, it does seem more that like

1141
00:35:33,213 --> 00:35:36,289
the RTB has more control or maybe
is the province just saying like,

1142
00:35:36,289 --> 00:35:38,859
hey, this is out of our
jurisdiction.

1143
00:35:38,859 --> 00:35:41,841
I don't have the answer on that.

1144
00:35:41,941 --> 00:35:43,438
I need to push the RTB.

1145
00:35:43,438 --> 00:35:46,058
My instinct would say that it
would be the province.

1146
00:35:46,058 --> 00:35:49,543
But again, like as a real person,
I'm super humbled by saying I

1147
00:35:49,543 --> 00:35:53,776
actually don't have the answer to
that one, but I think we need to

1148
00:35:53,776 --> 00:35:58,577
find the answer because they don't
really take credit no for a lot of

1149
00:35:58,577 --> 00:36:02,219
errors in the system right I they
don't really take credit no for a

1150
00:36:02,219 --> 00:36:05,658
lot of errors in the system right
now right they just kind of like

1151
00:36:05,558 --> 00:36:09,383
push it and say oh like it's the
tenancy branch but they just

1152
00:36:09,383 --> 00:36:12,043
announced all those new remember
we did that episode where they had

1153
00:36:12,043 --> 00:36:16,563
there was that one news story
where their 16 year old son moved

1154
00:36:16,663 --> 00:36:19,313
in and went up 600 bucks or
something like that yeah well now

1155
00:36:19,295 --> 00:36:21,446
you announced all those new
remember we did that episode where

1156
00:36:21,428 --> 00:36:26,202
they had there was that one news
story where their 16 year old son

1157
00:36:26,202 --> 00:36:29,860
moved in and went up 600 bucks or
something like that yeah well now

1158
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,419
you can't do that yeah like,
that's the problems that sees like

1159
00:36:31,419 --> 00:36:32,780
the political backlash and then
adds the new.

1160
00:36:32,780 --> 00:36:34,888
There's like, I don't know, was
there six changes to that?

1161
00:36:34,888 --> 00:36:37,268
Yeah, when it benefits when it
benefits them, they take credit

1162
00:36:37,268 --> 00:36:37,880
for it.

1163
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,032
Yeah.

1164
00:36:38,032 --> 00:36:40,621
But again, just to give everybody
hope that's listening, here we are

1165
00:36:40,521 --> 00:36:43,011
talking about a bureaucracy that
is dysfunctional for our society.

1166
00:36:43,011 --> 00:36:46,289
And we're actually presented with
an opportunity where we actually

1167
00:36:46,289 --> 00:36:49,991
can make a significant amount of
change using our voices, using our

1168
00:36:49,991 --> 00:36:51,821
own advocacy, and through the
creation of these roundtables,

1169
00:36:51,821 --> 00:36:54,464
which I truly believe will be a
game changer as we move forward in

1170
00:36:54,464 --> 00:36:57,243
creating these policies in the
ledge, which we used to do with

1171
00:36:57,243 --> 00:36:58,718
the small business roundtable,
right?

1172
00:36:58,718 --> 00:37:02,074
So, and just to kind of zoom in
really quick on that.

1173
00:37:02,074 --> 00:37:05,827
So what the round tables do is
they gather people from all over

1174
00:37:05,827 --> 00:37:07,015
the province that are
stakeholders.

1175
00:37:07,015 --> 00:37:09,640
So you would get one from Nelson
and all over BC, right?

1176
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,080
You come to a meeting, it's a one
day thing.

1177
00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:16,044
It's once every eight weeks we
used to meet.

1178
00:37:16,144 --> 00:37:18,095
We'd all come together in person,
right?

1179
00:37:18,095 --> 00:37:21,041
Before COVID and everybody would
bring a report from their city.

1180
00:37:21,041 --> 00:37:22,062
What's going on?
What's working?

1181
00:37:22,062 --> 00:37:23,251
What's not?
Stats, recommendations.

1182
00:37:23,151 --> 00:37:24,171
The minister would be in that
meeting, listening, the minister

1183
00:37:24,171 --> 00:37:27,137
of housing or whatever it is, RTP.

1184
00:37:27,137 --> 00:37:28,760
So I guess I just want to provide

1185
00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:30,400
hope by saying that like, that's
the kind of stuff that I

1186
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:32,878
personally, and I know Steve and I
know Michael will want to do.

1187
00:37:32,867 --> 00:37:35,640
That's the kind of work we want to
do is get people back to the

1188
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:35,875
table.

1189
00:37:35,875 --> 00:37:37,598
Right now, there is no at the

1190
00:37:37,598 --> 00:37:38,740
table communication happening.

1191
00:37:38,837 --> 00:37:40,268
And that is because we have a

1192
00:37:40,268 --> 00:37:42,836
government that does not want to
be at the table.

1193
00:37:42,836 --> 00:37:44,843
And for whatever reason, I can't
answer that today.

1194
00:37:44,843 --> 00:37:46,878
But I do feel that they are a
command and control type

1195
00:37:46,878 --> 00:37:47,100
government.

1196
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,360
Right.

1197
00:37:47,351 --> 00:37:47,963
And that's just their mindset.

1198
00:37:47,963 --> 00:37:49,334
So I guess hopefully that kind of

1199
00:37:49,334 --> 00:37:49,925
provides hope.

1200
00:37:49,925 --> 00:37:51,540
Like we can implement change.

1201
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:51,780
Yeah.

1202
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:52,551
Yeah.

1203
00:37:52,451 --> 00:37:55,021
So it would be Ministry of Housing
could have its own, you know,

1204
00:37:55,021 --> 00:37:55,520
arm's length roundtable.

1205
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,080
Yeah.

1206
00:37:55,963 --> 00:37:56,220
Yeah.

1207
00:37:53,534 --> 00:37:58,578
I think they've proven that they

1208
00:37:58,578 --> 00:38:00,222
can facilitate a lot of change.

1209
00:38:00,122 --> 00:38:00,324
100%.

1210
00:38:00,324 --> 00:38:01,232
Every other In the week.

1211
00:38:01,232 --> 00:38:01,837
wrong way.

1212
00:38:01,837 --> 00:38:02,240
table Yeah.

1213
00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:03,647
yeah yeah i think they've proven

1214
00:38:03,547 --> 00:38:07,049
that they can facilitate a lot of
change 100 every other week in the

1215
00:38:07,049 --> 00:38:10,684
wrong way yeah the law the wrong
way yeah the law society stuff is

1216
00:38:10,684 --> 00:38:14,027
really really really bad yeah the
law society stuff is really really

1217
00:38:13,927 --> 00:38:17,300
really bad it's scary and the icbc
no fault insurance has to go too

1218
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:19,653
and yeah well seems like you'll be
seems like you'll be hopefully

1219
00:38:19,598 --> 00:38:21,959
very busy in the near future okay
good thing I live in the wine

1220
00:38:21,959 --> 00:38:22,205
region.

1221
00:38:22,205 --> 00:38:23,635
I live in the wine region.

1222
00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:24,853
Hopefully my wineries will survive
and it's all good.

1223
00:38:24,847 --> 00:38:25,610
survive and it's all good.

1224
00:38:25,583 --> 00:38:25,713
Yeah.

1225
00:38:25,713 --> 00:38:25,973
Okay.

1226
00:38:25,973 --> 00:38:27,501
We'll lead into our wrap up here

1227
00:38:27,501 --> 00:38:28,703
if that works for you guys.

1228
00:38:28,703 --> 00:38:29,339
you guys.

1229
00:38:29,339 --> 00:38:29,693
Okay.

1230
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:17,562
Great.

1231
00:38:26,277 --> 00:38:26,477
Okay.

1232
00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:27,784
To expect in see my this, face

1233
00:38:27,784 --> 00:38:28,562
going all red.

1234
00:38:28,562 --> 00:38:30,258
What's he going to ask me?

1235
00:38:30,258 --> 00:38:31,813
to ask me?
What's your favorite color?

1236
00:38:31,813 --> 00:38:31,955
Okay.

1237
00:38:31,955 --> 00:38:33,400
If you could buy one property in

1238
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,600
the Okanagan in the next 12 what
would it be?

1239
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,371
months, in the next 12 what would
it be?

1240
00:38:37,371 --> 00:38:37,926
months, good question.

1241
00:38:37,926 --> 00:38:38,702
Oh, My lots.

1242
00:38:38,702 --> 00:38:40,581
No. You know what?
I do believe that the infill the

1243
00:38:40,581 --> 00:38:43,181
trajectory housing, for what the
changes will be to meaning making

1244
00:38:34,231 --> 00:38:37,538
come, as much money as you could
out of a looks like on lot, the

1245
00:38:37,538 --> 00:38:39,479
there's horizon, going to be some
really innovative cool, things

1246
00:38:39,479 --> 00:38:42,547
coming down the pike in terms of
being able to build up a little

1247
00:38:42,547 --> 00:38:42,801
higher.

1248
00:38:42,801 --> 00:38:44,831
So yeah, I would look for a lot,

1249
00:38:44,831 --> 00:38:47,558
you know, somewhere down by the
hospital or something.

1250
00:38:47,558 --> 00:38:48,256
I don't know.

1251
00:38:48,256 --> 00:38:49,310
That's my vibes right now.

1252
00:38:49,302 --> 00:38:49,510
Yeah.

1253
00:38:49,610 --> 00:38:51,114
I Or like Todd and I have always

1254
00:38:51,014 --> 00:38:52,700
chatted about doing like a big
piece of land and just creating

1255
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:56,856
like a eco, you know, resort type
thing where we do like mountain

1256
00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:59,094
bikes and yoga and all this kind
of stuff.

1257
00:38:59,094 --> 00:39:04,579
So, you know, but I don't know if
there's any of that around here

1258
00:39:04,579 --> 00:39:09,556
that's even close to affordable so
i think at this point i'll go for

1259
00:39:09,556 --> 00:39:14,240
the info okay fine your bike track
would be very maybe like in

1260
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:17,012
rossland we'll buy our land be
very like in rossland we'll buy

1261
00:39:17,012 --> 00:39:20,103
our land for like 200 000 i think
the shoot lake like 200 000 i

1262
00:39:20,103 --> 00:39:23,074
think the shoot lake resort is for
sale i think shoot lakes that

1263
00:39:23,074 --> 00:39:24,148
whole thing's awesome actually
we're up's awesome.

1264
00:39:24,148 --> 00:39:25,937
Let's open ChatGPT and create a
partnership right now.

1265
00:39:25,937 --> 00:39:27,880
open ChatGPT and create a
partnership right now.

1266
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,575
Yeah, that's great.

1267
00:39:28,575 --> 00:39:30,689
If you could give your 20 year old

1268
00:39:30,589 --> 00:39:33,471
self any advice, what would it be?
Yeah, I didn't actually think

1269
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:34,130
about this one.

1270
00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:35,182
I think know that everything's

1271
00:39:35,282 --> 00:39:36,116
going to be okay.

1272
00:39:36,116 --> 00:39:38,499
Like I've had a lot of setbacks in

1273
00:39:38,499 --> 00:39:40,105
my life and I'm sure we all have,
right?

1274
00:39:40,105 --> 00:39:44,231
And I think you can create a lot
of anxiety and a lot of spiral

1275
00:39:44,331 --> 00:39:45,330
thinking, worrying.

1276
00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:46,452
So just not to worry.

1277
00:39:46,452 --> 00:39:48,341
And I'm really working on that
right now in my personal

1278
00:39:48,341 --> 00:39:48,452
development.

1279
00:39:48,452 --> 00:39:49,507
So I love it.

1280
00:39:49,507 --> 00:39:49,730
it.

1281
00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:50,107
Yeah.

1282
00:39:50,007 --> 00:39:51,340
Well, it must be pretty powerful
now.

1283
00:39:51,340 --> 00:39:52,951
It's yeah, you got a lot going on.

1284
00:39:52,951 --> 00:39:54,384
I'm very worried worried a lot

1285
00:39:54,284 --> 00:39:54,784
these days.

1286
00:39:54,784 --> 00:39:55,784
Not really about myself, but the

1287
00:39:55,784 --> 00:39:57,439
worry myself, but worry of 44,000
of my constituents.

1288
00:39:57,339 --> 00:39:57,939
No joke.

1289
00:39:57,839 --> 00:39:58,117
Yeah.

1290
00:39:58,117 --> 00:40:00,561
What's your favorite charity or
how do you get back?

1291
00:40:00,561 --> 00:40:00,672
Yeah.

1292
00:40:00,672 --> 00:40:02,450
So lately I've been working with a

1293
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:03,061
hundred women who care.

1294
00:40:03,061 --> 00:40:04,449
We have gatherings, I think it's

1295
00:40:04,549 --> 00:40:07,258
every six weeks and you drop in a
hundred bucks, you show up and

1296
00:40:07,258 --> 00:40:09,280
everybody votes for the charity of
the night.

1297
00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:10,129
That's been really fun.

1298
00:40:10,129 --> 00:40:12,131
I've done some work with mamas.

1299
00:40:12,131 --> 00:40:13,280
Of course, everybody has.

1300
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,180
Todd and I do Food Bank and

1301
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:16,852
Salvation Army every year.

1302
00:40:16,852 --> 00:40:18,300
We do hampers for kids.

1303
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:21,418
Biggest one we did one year was 14
hampers for families.

1304
00:40:21,418 --> 00:40:22,929
It was so much fun.

1305
00:40:22,929 --> 00:40:24,940
So that one really lights me up.

1306
00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:25,628
I love like getting all the kids,
like I actually do all the

1307
00:40:25,591 --> 00:40:26,090
personal shopping for it and
stuff.

1308
00:40:25,944 --> 00:40:27,330
And I really feel like the kid
getting the thing that they want.

1309
00:40:27,330 --> 00:40:27,813
So yeah, that's where we
contribute right now.

1310
00:40:27,813 --> 00:40:28,489
I do a lot of volunteer time, like
totally too many hours of

1311
00:40:28,489 --> 00:40:31,001
volunteer time, but it's all good.

1312
00:40:31,001 --> 00:40:32,161
All right.

1313
00:40:32,161 --> 00:40:35,578
How can Taylor or I or our
listener help you?

1314
00:40:35,578 --> 00:40:35,997
Okay, great.

1315
00:40:35,997 --> 00:40:37,759
I would love for everybody to

1316
00:40:37,759 --> 00:40:40,192
really have taken the message
today about the power of the

1317
00:40:40,192 --> 00:40:40,790
independent candidate.

1318
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:45,092
I think it's a big message that we

1319
00:40:45,092 --> 00:40:44,232
need to get out.

1320
00:40:44,232 --> 00:40:50,260
Also that they're not voting for

1321
00:40:50,112 --> 00:40:50,320
Pierre Polyev.

1322
00:40:50,170 --> 00:40:50,320
So that would be great.

1323
00:40:50,291 --> 00:40:54,260
And then you can also visit my
website if you live in the Kelowna

1324
00:40:54,155 --> 00:40:54,260
Mission area.

1325
00:40:54,178 --> 00:40:54,260
So anywhere kind of Gushigan, you

1326
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:56,720
know, upwards up Highway 33.

1327
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:00,330
That's my riding.

1328
00:41:00,350 --> 00:41:00,540
It's kind of an odd riding.

1329
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,254
So just have a peek where you live

1330
00:41:02,254 --> 00:41:10,620
and then visit ashramsay.com and
spread the word and just really

1331
00:41:10,466 --> 00:41:10,620
getting the word out about how I'm
gonna do the best job I can for

1332
00:41:10,665 --> 00:41:10,610
everyone here from the heart.

1333
00:41:10,583 --> 00:41:11,640
So yeah, I think that'd that'd be

1334
00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:11,630
it.

1335
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:12,500
Love it.

1336
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,160
Awesome.

1337
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:13,970
Awesome.

1338
00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:26,469
Well, thank you so much for
joining us today.

1339
00:41:26,375 --> 00:41:26,699
And yeah, what do we got a couple
more weeks left?

1340
00:41:26,702 --> 00:41:27,016
So 16 days days left.

1341
00:41:26,846 --> 00:41:27,046
Yeah.

1342
00:41:26,884 --> 00:41:27,169
And then I'm going to fall apart
on the floor and cry.

1343
00:41:27,203 --> 00:41:27,403
Yeah.

1344
00:41:27,242 --> 00:41:27,638
And I guess they've got this new

1345
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:27,957
counting process this And I guess
they've this new counting process

1346
00:41:27,795 --> 00:41:27,875
this year.

1347
00:41:27,841 --> 00:41:28,000
That'll be super fast.

1348
00:41:27,947 --> 00:41:29,532
So they'll have the results
completely completed, completely

1349
00:41:29,532 --> 00:41:30,989
completed by like 8.15 that night.

1350
00:41:30,970 --> 00:41:32,390
So they should export that should

1351
00:41:32,364 --> 00:41:33,334
export that to the US.

1352
00:41:33,334 --> 00:41:34,683
I'm really I'm really nervous.

1353
00:41:34,683 --> 00:41:36,183
But again, like I said, win or
lose.

1354
00:41:36,183 --> 00:41:40,012
You know, I feel like I have won
just having experience learning so

1355
00:41:40,013 --> 00:41:42,272
much more about this community
that I didn't know before.

1356
00:41:42,272 --> 00:41:44,500
And I think that's going to fuel
me in my next endeavor, whatever

1357
00:41:44,740 --> 00:41:45,360
it is, win or lose.

1358
00:41:45,358 --> 00:41:46,458
So I'm super excited about that.

1359
00:41:46,458 --> 00:41:46,658
Yeah.

1360
00:41:46,650 --> 00:41:46,937
Awesome.

1361
00:41:46,937 --> 00:41:47,137
Yeah.

1362
00:41:47,128 --> 00:41:47,415
Yeah.

1363
00:41:47,415 --> 00:41:47,615
Okay.

1364
00:41:47,607 --> 00:41:47,942
All Okay.

1365
00:41:47,942 --> 00:41:48,609
All right.

1366
00:41:48,609 --> 00:41:49,742
Have a great day.

1367
00:41:49,742 --> 00:41:50,781
And thank you.

1368
00:41:50,781 --> 00:41:51,348
Thanks again.

1369
00:41:51,348 --> 00:41:52,481
Thank you guys.

1370
00:41:52,481 --> 00:41:54,370
Only humbled as thank you.

1371
00:41:54,370 --> 00:41:55,220
Thanks again.

1372
00:41:55,220 --> 00:41:56,082
Thank you guys.

1373
00:41:56,082 --> 00:41:57,006
Only humbled as always.

1374
00:41:54,181 --> 00:41:54,748
Thank you.