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Episode 102: Matt and Taylor are joined by Rob Cupello. Rob is the Chief Strategy Officer at Csek Creative, a marketing agency that has been helping businesses tell their stories for 25 years. Rob ran his own marketing agency for 15 years before merging with NowMedia Group/Csek Creative in 2017, bringing his extensive experience in strategic marketing to every project, including website builds, advertising campaigns, and brand developments. Csek Creative helps clients navigate the complexities of today’s digital landscape by integrating innovative tools, like automation and AI, with proven marketing principles, ensuring that every dollar spent delivers maximum ROI.

 

Born and raised in Kamloops and currently based out of both Kamloops and Kelowna, Rob’s local knowledge and love of the region is an asset to the thousands of businesses and organizations he has worked with.

 

Rob is here to discuss:
→ What AI is, how AI is regulated, and the current limitations involving AI.
→ How you can start to learn how to use AI, practical uses of AI today, and how you can prepare for the future of society with AI.
→ How you can create an AI agent or AI assistant, AI uses in real estate, AI's possible impact on the medical and education systems, and AI in podcasting and social media.

 

Rob Cupello's LinkedIn: @RobCupello

Csek Creative Website: www.csekcreative.com

Csek Creative Instagram: @csekcreative

Csek Creative LinkedIn: @CsekCreative

Csek Creative YouTube: @CsekCreative

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Welcome back to the Kelowna Real
Estate Podcast.

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I am your mortgage broker host,
Taylor Atkinson.

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How's it going, Morgan Freeman?
Oh, you knew who I was.

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Yes.

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At first, it sounded like him,

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then I thought it was maybe some
World War II era dude, but yeah, I

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like it.

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So on point with our show today,

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that's AI.

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You know, one of the many things

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you can do with AI, this is not
productive use of AI at all.

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But it's interesting.

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I thought it was pretty

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productive.

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Yeah.

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So we have on Rob, who honestly,
he put on a presentation.

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Well, like six, seven weeks ago at
a BC Lender Association conference

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for me.

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And he spoke about AI and it blew

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me away.

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Like some of the stuff that's

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going on is pretty cool.

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And I've always kind of been

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sitting on the fence.

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Like I think it's interesting.

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But what are your thoughts on AI
right now?

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Honestly, I'm trying to figure out
what jobs are not gone.

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The list kind of narrows when you
start thinking about it more and

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more.

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I think like the more hands -on

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are probably the safest.

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That's what I think about first

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thing.

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When I talk to people like this

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and...

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Learn about it.

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It's crazy what's happening.

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Yeah.

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Something that blew me away was
one, there was like an influencer,

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an AI influencer out of Barcelona,
I think, making like 10 ,000 euro

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a month.

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Image generated, everything's just

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AI.

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And you wouldn't be able to tell

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the difference, which I thought
was like pretty wild.

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And then the other one, he calls
them agents, but it's essentially

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like your virtual assistant.

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They can book travel, respond to

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emails, take phone calls.

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And the more you work with them,

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the more they... you know, get in
tune of what your needs are.

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And it's wild some of the stuff
that he can do.

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So yeah, Rob, he does a few
things.

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He'll do like six week coaching
courses or he'll come and do like

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a whiteboard session and, you
know, audit people's businesses.

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I think he has like a plumber that
he's worked with where the plumber

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just goes and he's a plumber now.

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And all his task management

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calendar, everything gets booked
and, you know, clients reach out

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and it's all AI generally.

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They just say like, what's the

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issue?
And basically the plumber wakes up

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in the morning and... goes and
does the job like stuff like that

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is pretty wild to me it's pretty
crazy because like ai is pretty

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good right now but like it's so
new pretty crazy because like ai

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is pretty good right now but like
it's so new But in a couple of

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years, the AI assistance, the
online ones, will be flawless.

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Especially texting.

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Calling, maybe not as...

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Calls are a little bit more
personal.

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I guess if you're just talking to
random people, booking

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appointments is not that big a
deal.

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But I'm not going to get an AI to
call you and see how your weekend

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was.

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Yeah.

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I don't think we'll ever...

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Well, who knows?

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don't think we'll ever...

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Well, who knows?

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But I don't think we'll ever lose
touch of that.

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People want that personal
relationship.

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Honestly, I think that might be a
skill to work on, to set yourself

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apart.

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somebody that can talk to other

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human beings.

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And I guess talk to other AI as

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well.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What are you going to like prank

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call two AI bots and just have
them talk to each other?

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Yeah.

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Well, you know, maybe I will.

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YouTube.

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I bet you they'd figure it out

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within 10 seconds.

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They could figure it out.

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That means that other people, I
guess you could figure it out if

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you were talking to a bot or not.

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Yeah, I guess like whoever's not

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using AI right now, you know, get
out and play with it a little bit.

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I mean, chat GPT is the surface of
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surface of it.

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It's funny you say that.

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I was talking to my sister was
just over for the weekend.

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I was like, so what do you guys
think about chat GPT?

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They're like, what's that?
Oh, really?

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No idea.

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Like none at all.

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And I'm trying to explain to her
what it was.

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Oh, really?
And like, I'm not good at

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explaining what AI is.

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I've learned.

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That's why we did this show.

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Just send her the link to the

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show.

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And there you go.

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you go.

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It's hard to explain how good it

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is and what it does to someone
that just has no idea.

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So I need to work on that.

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And I think, I mean, specific to

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real estate, there's a lot of
really good applications.

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You know, pulling data and CSI
maps and stuff throughout the city

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and figuring out square footage,
what to build and cost of things

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and foot traffic on commercial
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Like it's just endless.

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The amount of data that's

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available that like would take
weeks and weeks for a company to

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do research.

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AI can do it.

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mere hours.

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You know what else I found just

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playing with it over the last,
since we recorded the show was

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like, if you don't even know what
to do, just ask AI, like, where do

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I start?
What do I do?

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Like, how do I use you to further
my business?

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Well, start with this.

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And then how do I do that?

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And I answer all those questions.

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Just like, once you learn how to

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use this, it's like, there's not
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it or like use it to full effect,
or at least it's not as full

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effect, but like.

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Yeah.

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Use it to have more effect.

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Yeah.

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Use it to teach you how to use it.

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Yeah.

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I mean, something I thought was
pretty funny.

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I still type, even though we had
this conversation with Rob, I

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still type in like, please, thank
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Like I'm, you know, I'm very nice
to AI.

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And Rob was like, it's such a
waste of money because like the

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amount of power that like the
computers have to use to like

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process the please and thank you
and all like the gibberish you put

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in.

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So I think learning how to use

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like prompts and, you know, make
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really important.

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Well, as it learns from you, like,

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Yeah, it talks back to you the way
you want to be talked to.

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I guess if you like to use please
and thank you, it's going to start

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using them back to you.

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Yeah, that'd be good.

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I think the way I look at it is it
takes a large amount of time out

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of anything that I'm doing.

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the way I look at it is it takes a

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large amount of time out of
anything that I'm doing.

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Like if I want to build a
spreadsheet, I can get it to do,

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you know, 70 or 80 % of what I
want it to do.

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And then I fine tune it
afterwards.

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It's not going to be perfect.

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people right like most people if

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you ask them to do a job like
maybe it comes back great maybe it

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doesn't you just you build off of
that it does make mistakes so so

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for our hockey team i'm starting
up the hockey team and i took a

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screenshot of the cost so like not
even at the time i took a

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screenshot of the cost uploaded it
and said split this between 16

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people add the jerseys in add this
in and then give us a payment

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schedule so it did it all in like
seconds it was pretty cool like

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all off a screenshot a couple days
later i realized that the math was

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wrong like what does make mistakes
so so for our hockey team i'm

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starting up the hockey team and i
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like not even at the time i took a
screenshot of the cost uploaded it

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and said split this between 16
people add the jerseys in add this

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in and then give us a payment
schedule so it did it all in like

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seconds it was pretty cool like
all off a screenshot a couple days

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later i realized that the math was
wrong like what So they're not our

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overlords yet, but it's headed
that way.

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But yeah, double check it for
sure.

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But yeah, double check it for
sure.

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I think we should just jump into
the show because Rob was great and

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he's very accessible.

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So if people want to reach out to

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him and talk about this stuff, or
if you have a small business that

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you feel like you should be taught
some AI or implement some of it,

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he's the guy.

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Also, Also, AI is such a broad

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topic.

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Like even us, we're trying to keep

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it real estate related.

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And like, first question is, are

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we all doomed?
Right?

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So it's like, there's so much to
do.

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There's so much to hear about.

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It's like, this is just a... tiny

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little tip of the iceberg for what
it is yeah interesting still i

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mean we're affected by data right
like siri on your phone like

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there's so much stuff that is ai
that people probably just don't

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even think they're using but yeah
we are in some capacity so yeah

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yeah definitely anyways enjoy the
show guys all right and this show

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like every show is sponsored by
century 21 assurance realty we are

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residential sales commercial sales
mean we're affected by data right

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like siri on your phone like
there's so much stuff that is ai

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that people probably just don't
even think they're using but yeah

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we are in some capacity so yeah
yeah anyways enjoy the show guys

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all right and this show like every
show is sponsored by century 21

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assurance realty we are
residential sales commercial sales

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leasing, residential property
management.

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We do it all and we do it
everywhere.

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Southern interior, basically,
entire interior.

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We're there if you need us.

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If you're looking for an agent or

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you're looking for a new
brokerage, give us a call.

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All right.

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Welcome to the show, Rob Capello.

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How's it going?
Good.

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How are you guys?
Good.

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Did I butcher that or is that all
right?

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Do it again.

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Do it again.

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it again.

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Do it again.

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I love Rob Capello.

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Are you going to Italy anytime

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soon?
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close by.

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So Rob, like I'm so fascinated.

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You came and did a presentation at

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our BC lenders, like for mortgage
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I've seen a couple of AI

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presentations and they've been
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and you were just so passionate
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whatever reason.

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So we had to have you on the show.

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Real like simple question.

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That's probably not so simple.

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Can you summarize what is AI?
Like, what is AI?

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don't think a lot of people even
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So it's a great place to start.

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But for me, AI, which is obviously

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artificial intelligence, what it
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know, really is technology that it
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is really what it is.

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It's technology that's learned.

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From data that we've all put into
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been trained on the years and
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They'll make decisions and they

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get smarter over time.

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are not understanding, like these
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getting smarter.

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higher than a human expert.

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Right now they can pass bar exams.

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They've surpassed human
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about you're hiring a really
consistent employee that doesn't

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Like that's really the best way to

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explain it.

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It's able to take on tasks.

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conversations, really depending on
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They're coming.

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These are just tools or tools that

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can really help you sort of
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what they're doing.

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about this as an employee that's
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That's what AI is today.

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in my mind, right?

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We can go down rabbit holes of
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that sort of stuff, but let's
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That's what AI is.

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Last time I was talking to my

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wife, she was on ChatGPT and she's
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I'm like, well, it's a large
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Basically, it just scrapes all the
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it works.

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She's like, well, how is that

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different than Google?
I'm like... I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Ask chat GPT.

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It's funny you say that.

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Like I teach a class and at the
end of the class, I say all the

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stuff I just taught you, you could
have just asked chat GPT.

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difference is that Google will

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give you typically, historically,
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me a listing, right?
It doesn't add like much more

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value than a listing.

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Where chat GPT, I can say,

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summarize an email, create a
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Here's my financials.

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What do you see?

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Can you go book my flight?
I'm going to Mexico, book my

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hotel.

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historical Google because you go
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They got AI embedded into it.

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If you guys start seeing that now,
even downloaded a PDF document

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today, Google Gemini pops up on
the side and said, here's a

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summary of this document you
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Would you like to ask it a
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That's the difference between AI

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and what you do in Google, right?
But it's a good question.

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It's a valid question, right?
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information in, information out.

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How long has AI been around for

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and what is the catalyst?
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just seems like now it's so
mainstream, like everyone knows

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about it, but it's been around
for, what, 15 years?

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No, actually AI has been around
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Oh, my God.

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It came out with the Turing test,

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it's called.

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scientist, Alan Turing, that said
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learn.

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called the Turing test that they
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It's a set of questions.

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You ask a machine.

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or it's a machine actually
answering the questions called the

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Turing test.

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I use it today to test, but it's

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been around since the 50.

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I think the actual word artificial

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intelligence came out in like
1956, 1957.

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Don't quote me on it.

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We could ask chat GPT.

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It's been around for a while.

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So we've all used, you know, Siri

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on our phone.

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Like that's all AI.

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Like Netflix is all, here's the
movies you might like, Rob,

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because you watch these.

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That's AI, right?

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That's all.

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Like algorithms are kind of like

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AI.

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could of like AI.

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Correct, right?
It's powered by AI, but it's been

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around for a long time.

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And if you look at, I have a graph

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that shows sort of the history of
sort of what's happened, but where

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these tools have really expanded
is it needs massive amounts of

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data, right?
So it needs data.

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It needs processing power.

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I don't know if you guys saw the

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Every time we go into ChatGPT and

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say thank you and please, we're
costing thousands of dollars.

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Because it's processing.

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Every time you type something into

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ChatGPT, it needs power, right?
Something needs the power.

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So you needed the data center.

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Mind your P's and Q's.

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That's hilarious because I've been
using it a lot lately and I keep

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putting in please and I'm like,
what am I doing?

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I do, too, because my thought is
if the robots come and kill us one

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night, they're going to scare
people who are nice to them.

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But I treat it like an employee.

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So I please and thank you.

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And I'm the weird guy that says
good morning to my chat GPT.

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I do.

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But it needed that power to get

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there.

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And really what happened late

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2022, OpenAI dropped chat GPT.

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I remember sitting around at the

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dinner table, hear about chat GPT,
and we start asking it questions

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with the kids.

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And we're like, whoa, this is

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freaky.

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Right.

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And then it really stemmed from
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So I think it's been there, but I
think everything's catching up

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now.

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And COVID.

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was the catalyst, right?
We all sat in our house, we all

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went online, and these open AI
said, there's an opportunity here

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to really, like, now we got
processing power, we have the

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data, and off it went.

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Like, ChatGP was the catalyst.

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Like, from there, now all these
other ones have sort of really

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kind of come into the spotlight,
but it was sort of late 2022 when

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we saw the real chaos, but it
needed the power.

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Like, they're literally spending,
I don't know, like the bill that

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they did in the US when Trump
first took over, trillions of

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dollars building data centers.

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Because right now that's a race is

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you need the processing power to
power these.

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Every time you create an image,
you create a video, you create a

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blog post, it takes processing
power and data, right?

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So is that the current limitation?
Like, do we have enough data pool

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to pull information from?
Is it now just like the processing

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power?
Well, you really get real crazy

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into this.

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So ChatGPT has consumed all the

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data there is right now.

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This is probably outdated, but

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like it only went up to like 2022
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Correct.

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Is it present now, obviously?

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Well, because what it did is it
stopped training in 2022, but now

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it just accesses real -time data.

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So it's been trained in 2022, but

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now you ask it something, what the
weather is today, it'll just go

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find that information in real time
for you.

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But where it's going, like we hear
the word AGI, artificial gender

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intelligence, is that... that's
going to be the last invention

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humankind will ever have to make
because these tools will create

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their own knowledge yes it's hard
to wrap your head around it but we

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will never have to create
knowledge because these tools are

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going to create they're not
because they're smarter than us

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they're going to be able to detect
cancer way before we can and it's

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going to be able to do that so
right now yeah to answer your

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question it's consumed all the
data it's learning in real time

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but now these tools are going to
start creating their own knowledge

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so again it's hard to wrap your
head around that but They're going

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to create inventions.

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They're going to create the next

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best insert whatever the tools
will.

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So we're just going to be on the
beach.

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We're going to be all out of jobs.

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We're going to be hanging out,

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surfing, whatever you want to do,
golfing and let the robots.

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Nobody's had to write a realtor
listing.

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Nobody's had to write a realtor
listing.

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Yeah, I mean, I guess it's a
pretty like.

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Hard question, but what do you
think is going to happen to

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society?
Like, is this positive, negative?

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Like, are we just going to become
slugs on the earth?

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And like, I mean, mean, everyone
has their own opinion on where

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that's going and how fast it's
going to go.

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Right.

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I mean, I think that in the short

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term, we're seeing automating
businesses.

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We see people that they're
starting businesses of team of

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one.

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Like we're going to see probably

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the first.

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you know, million trillion dollar

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business started with a team of
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Like we're starting to see that
and that's going to happen.

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I think today we can automate
pretty much the workflow of almost

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any business using AI technology.

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They can answer phones, they can

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prospect, they can fill out forms.

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Like think about your personal

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assistant is probably the best
thing I think we're seeing.

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I think from us, like what's going
to happen to humans, a concern I

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have, and I know we're going to
probably chat about this a little

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bit, is that.

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Things have evolved, right?

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Like we don't farm like we used
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We joke before we came on.

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Like we used to climb up light

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posts and light them.

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Like we don't do that anymore.

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But the problem is that technology
took a while to come in, years to

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adopt.

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00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,820
Where AI, it's like there's a

488
00:14:33,820 --> 00:14:35,800
billion dollars a day going into
AI.

489
00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:37,060
It's coming so fast.

490
00:14:37,060 --> 00:14:38,900
humans aren't able to catch up.

491
00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:42,100
So if it's replacing my job, it's
going to replace my job so quickly

492
00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:43,920
that I haven't been trained to do
something else.

493
00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,280
That's where that displacement is
going to happen fast.

494
00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,000
And I don't have an answer for
that.

495
00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,520
Like they're talking about
universal income, right?

496
00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,380
Universal basic income.

497
00:14:50,380 --> 00:14:51,560
They're going to need that or like

498
00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,240
we're all going to be unemployed.

499
00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,540
I'm being facetious.

500
00:14:54,540 --> 00:14:56,080
Some of us will keep our job.

501
00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,320
Yeah, there'd be like five of us

502
00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,180
employed with like trillion
technology.

503
00:14:58,460 --> 00:15:00,220
of us employed with trillion
technology.

504
00:15:00,220 --> 00:15:04,880
I mean, I don't know where it's
going to go, but we're seeing like

505
00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:05,900
robots are creating robots today.

506
00:15:05,900 --> 00:15:08,580
If I had the answer, you know, I'd

507
00:15:08,580 --> 00:15:09,340
be a billionaire.

508
00:15:09,340 --> 00:15:10,640
But, you know, I feel.

509
00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,280
like today we're seeing that it
can really help our businesses and

510
00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,240
people need to start looking at
that over the next few years i

511
00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,820
think we're going to start seeing
a lot of wearables that's where

512
00:15:16,820 --> 00:15:20,230
open ai is investing in right now
is that you're going to be wearing

513
00:15:20,370 --> 00:15:22,590
a pin you don't have to go to your
computer you're going to be

514
00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:25,630
wearing a pin that you're just
going to talk to or you're going

515
00:15:25,630 --> 00:15:30,630
to be wearing a watch or a phone
or eyeglasses that you're going to

516
00:15:31,090 --> 00:15:34,510
talk to so it's getting embedded
in our day -to -day and in the

517
00:15:34,830 --> 00:15:38,600
vision vision of where it's going
to singularity which i think

518
00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:40,780
people don't want to talk about
because it's scary but we never

519
00:15:40,780 --> 00:15:43,300
thought that we'd all carry a cell
phone in our back pockets, right?

520
00:15:43,780 --> 00:15:45,060
And we all know.

521
00:15:45,060 --> 00:15:46,220
But singularity means that think

522
00:15:46,380 --> 00:15:49,520
about a chip embedded in us that
you're just going to think in and

523
00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,800
the AI is going to be one with us.

524
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,080
trillion technology.

525
00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,720
about a chip embedded in us that
you're just going to think in and

526
00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,100
the AI is going to be one with us.

527
00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:57,480
And that's the vision of where

528
00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:57,480
they want to go with this.

529
00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,060
And that chip will dictate, hey,

530
00:15:59,060 --> 00:16:01,500
Rob, you know what?
You need to go to the doctor today

531
00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:03,200
or you're low on this.

532
00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,500
You know, and this is down the

533
00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:04,640
road.

534
00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,600
I don't know.

535
00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,420
We'll be alive to see this.

536
00:16:07,420 --> 00:16:08,100
I'm thinking we will.

537
00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,600
The technology's coming so fast,
but that's where it's going.

538
00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,720
So you need to go see a doctor
today.

539
00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,020
Just kidding.

540
00:16:13,020 --> 00:16:13,300
It's me.

541
00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:13,580
That's right.

542
00:16:13,580 --> 00:16:14,240
That's right.

543
00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,600
In China, they opened a hospital.

544
00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,780
I think it was a pilot that all AI

545
00:16:17,780 --> 00:16:17,840
run.

546
00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,260
I know we talk about data, but no

547
00:16:19,260 --> 00:16:21,360
one can argue that our medical
system is not the best it can be.

548
00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,180
The education system is not the
best it can be.

549
00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:23,560
They're unemployed, overworked.

550
00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:24,800
It's not like it doesn't work.

551
00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,960
We're not producing students to
come into workforces that are

552
00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,000
ready to do this.

553
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,180
Right.

554
00:16:28,180 --> 00:16:32,400
So if they can help that side of
it, take away the, you know, it

555
00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,240
can create a blog post.

556
00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:33,800
That's easy stuff.

557
00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,390
It can literally change how we run
in our society.

558
00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:37,110
I'm all for that.

559
00:16:37,110 --> 00:16:37,770
I'm all for that.

560
00:16:37,770 --> 00:16:42,170
If we can detect cancer sooner and
you can live 20 healthier years,

561
00:16:42,170 --> 00:16:43,910
why not?
Why are we scared of it?

562
00:16:43,910 --> 00:16:45,110
Let's embrace it rather than be
scared of it.

563
00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:45,330
It's funny.

564
00:16:45,330 --> 00:16:45,410
funny.

565
00:16:45,410 --> 00:15:57,880
The hospital is a good example.

566
00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:43,170
The specialists are almost the

567
00:16:43,170 --> 00:16:45,110
easiest to replace than the people
like the nurses and the porters

568
00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:45,770
are the hardest to replace.

569
00:16:45,770 --> 00:16:45,950
Correct.

570
00:16:45,950 --> 00:16:47,010
Maybe not the porters.

571
00:16:47,010 --> 00:16:47,850
That'd be pretty easy.

572
00:16:47,850 --> 00:16:50,570
But like the nurses and massage
therapists and stuff like that, it

573
00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:51,830
seems like they're kind of safe or
safer anyway.

574
00:16:51,830 --> 00:16:54,550
So yeah, like on the medical side,
I was chatting to Scott Peckford

575
00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:56,230
the other day, who's like my
managing broker.

576
00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:57,560
We've had him on the show.

577
00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,780
We were just chatting some health

578
00:16:58,780 --> 00:16:59,180
stuff.

579
00:16:59,180 --> 00:16:59,860
He's always into health.

580
00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:01,140
And we're talking about DEXA scan.

581
00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:02,240
I was like, oh yeah, like I want

582
00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:09,180
to get one, but you know, I want
to have like a doctor to follow up

583
00:17:09,180 --> 00:17:11,720
with it and do trend monitoring
and kind of see where it goes over

584
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,460
the next few years.

585
00:17:12,460 --> 00:17:14,420
He's like, yeah, or just drop it

586
00:17:14,420 --> 00:17:15,000
into chat GPT.

587
00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,460
He's like, that's what I've been

588
00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:17,280
doing every six months.

589
00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,920
Like I'll get one and just throw

590
00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:19,420
it in there.

591
00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:21,839
And that gives me like, hey, I

592
00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:23,079
want to train for this.

593
00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:23,700
I want to.

594
00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:24,200
Gain weight.

595
00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,520
I want to lose weight.

596
00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,780
Like, what do I do?
Here's my scan.

597
00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,140
That's incredible.

598
00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:28,040
Like, that's really accessible to

599
00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:28,440
anyone.

600
00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,420
Well, and I think the difference

601
00:17:30,420 --> 00:17:34,840
if you think if you go see a
specialist, the knowledge for the

602
00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,700
specialist is, you know, the
knowledge through school and the

603
00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:39,860
knowledge of the patients that he
or she has seen.

604
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,500
ChatGPT is trained on every
specialist in the world that's

605
00:17:42,500 --> 00:17:42,920
ever existed.

606
00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,060
And you can insert accountant,

607
00:17:44,060 --> 00:17:44,720
whatever, like marketer.

608
00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,640
It's trained on all of it.

609
00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,440
My knowledge comes from my life.

610
00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:49,800
Right.

611
00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,300
Like and I'm exposed to whatever
I'm exposed to in the world of

612
00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:55,560
business, but I'm not exposed to
what everybody has.

613
00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,540
You guys are different.

614
00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:57,940
If we go to overseas, it's

615
00:17:57,940 --> 00:17:58,120
different.

616
00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,020
Like there's all these other

617
00:17:59,020 --> 00:17:59,140
things.

618
00:17:59,140 --> 00:18:01,120
It's been trained on all of that.

619
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,000
And that's the power of that.

620
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,920
Plus, it's also, you know, where a

621
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,160
lot of government is trying to get
involved is what's legal, what's

622
00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:07,240
not.

623
00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:07,320
Right.

624
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,700
Who owns this?
Who doesn't own this?

625
00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:11,300
Like, is it OK to train on all the
data out there?

626
00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:13,140
There's court cases right now that
are like, hey, you trained on

627
00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:15,080
YouTube videos where you don't own
the YouTube videos.

628
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:15,920
Google does.

629
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,160
And I'm like, well, do they?

630
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:18,640
Don't you own it?
Because aren't you the one that

631
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,040
posted on YouTube?
Doesn't seem like the cat is out

632
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,420
of the bag there.

633
00:18:22,420 --> 00:18:24,040
So that's a great question that I

634
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,920
have is how is this like
regulated?

635
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,160
Is it at a like global scale?
Is it?

636
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:26,880
Like nationally?
There's no regulation, no

637
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,320
regulation, bro.

638
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,920
Yeah, well, right now, I think the

639
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,600
EU, so Europe has really tight
regulations.

640
00:18:30,620 --> 00:18:33,460
Like so a lot of the tools that we
use here, you're not allowed to

641
00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:35,780
even use them in the EU.

642
00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:37,280
They have a really strict policy

643
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:37,800
around AI.

644
00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,700
We're a little bit of the wild,

645
00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:39,840
wild west.

646
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,620
I think we're still trying to

647
00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:42,100
figure it out.

648
00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:43,480
I think Canada typically follows

649
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,940
the EU, which scares me a little
bit because I think we can't put

650
00:18:46,940 --> 00:18:47,940
handcuffs on all this.

651
00:18:47,940 --> 00:18:49,440
Like we need to keep developing

652
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:49,580
these.

653
00:18:49,580 --> 00:18:51,780
US is all in.

654
00:18:51,780 --> 00:18:54,260
Like Elon Musk, like they're all
in.

655
00:18:54,260 --> 00:18:55,720
Like there's no Sam Altman.

656
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,550
These guys are not stopping,

657
00:18:57,550 --> 00:18:59,430
right?
Because the race for U .S.

658
00:18:59,430 --> 00:19:01,850
is against China right now in
these tools, for sure.

659
00:19:01,850 --> 00:19:05,590
This is like, you know, the first
people that go into the moon and

660
00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:07,190
first people up to Mars.

661
00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:08,990
Like it's a race for this, right?

662
00:19:08,990 --> 00:19:13,010
But here, my concern is that we
have, to be blunt, we have, you

663
00:19:13,070 --> 00:19:17,170
know, 80 -year -old white males in
the Senate of the U .S.

664
00:19:17,170 --> 00:19:20,590
trying to... develop a policy
around AI and they probably don't

665
00:19:20,590 --> 00:19:22,390
even know to turn on their
computer.

666
00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:25,130
Like, I think they have the wrong
people in the room making those

667
00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:25,390
decisions.

668
00:19:25,390 --> 00:19:26,390
Like I do, right?

669
00:19:26,610 --> 00:19:28,250
You need the Sam Altman's, the
Elon's.

670
00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,450
And I don't care if you like these
people or not.

671
00:19:30,450 --> 00:19:33,110
That's not the point is that you
need to have those people in the

672
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:35,670
room making these decisions
because they're the one developing

673
00:19:35,670 --> 00:19:35,830
it.

674
00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:37,030
You can't have someone that, you

675
00:19:37,030 --> 00:19:41,330
know, I don't know if you saw the
TikTok hearings and the guys

676
00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:45,990
thought, yes, like, you know,
like, come on, like, how are you?

677
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:47,470
It was comedy.

678
00:19:47,870 --> 00:19:49,110
It made some good scrolling that

679
00:19:49,390 --> 00:19:49,610
day.

680
00:19:49,850 --> 00:19:50,310
Yeah, right?

681
00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:50,950
Like, you have.

682
00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:52,830
the wrong people in the wrong room

683
00:19:52,830 --> 00:19:55,410
making decisions in my mind and
that sort of stuff.

684
00:19:55,410 --> 00:19:58,150
And I'm scared that they're going
to make decisions that, you know,

685
00:19:58,150 --> 00:20:02,310
it's best for them, not what's
best for like the rest of us that

686
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:02,710
are out there.

687
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:03,650
And that's pretty typical from

688
00:20:03,650 --> 00:20:05,050
government policy anyways, but
that's a whole different show.

689
00:20:05,050 --> 00:20:08,390
the And I don't like, how AI seems
to like be fairly intimidating for

690
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:09,770
a lot of people for various
reasons.

691
00:20:09,770 --> 00:20:10,970
Like what should people be dipping
their toe in?

692
00:20:10,970 --> 00:20:13,870
What's like an easy, no barrier of
entry.

693
00:20:13,870 --> 00:20:15,210
Hey, try this tool.

694
00:20:15,210 --> 00:20:16,730
This will impact your life better.

695
00:20:16,730 --> 00:20:19,290
Where would you start if someone
just wanted to learn?

696
00:20:19,290 --> 00:20:21,970
Yeah, I think for me, the baseline
is a large language model.

697
00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:24,470
So, I mean, I'm a chat GPT guy, 20
bucks a month.

698
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:25,170
I recommend paying for it.

699
00:20:25,170 --> 00:20:26,310
It adds a lot.

700
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:28,550
I mean, it's 20 bucks US a month.

701
00:20:28,670 --> 00:20:30,310
So it's not a lot.

702
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:32,410
I would say to dip your toe.

703
00:20:32,790 --> 00:20:34,190
That's what I would start with and

704
00:20:34,190 --> 00:20:35,390
start asking the questions.

705
00:20:35,390 --> 00:20:36,190
Like just start simple.

706
00:20:36,190 --> 00:20:39,010
Ask it to analyze your email and
come up with a summary.

707
00:20:39,010 --> 00:20:40,270
Ask it to write you a blog post.

708
00:20:40,670 --> 00:20:42,430
Ask it to, hey, this is who I am.

709
00:20:42,430 --> 00:20:44,730
Give me five ideas that I can post
on LinkedIn.

710
00:20:44,790 --> 00:20:45,970
Just start dipping your toe.

711
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:47,230
And I think that would be the

712
00:20:47,230 --> 00:20:47,990
starting point for me.

713
00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:48,810
To me, it's my assistant.

714
00:20:48,810 --> 00:20:51,410
It's my CTO, it's my CMO, it's my
CFO, it's everything.

715
00:20:51,410 --> 00:20:54,350
Like I talk to him and say, hey,
like I have an idea.

716
00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:55,650
That's how I use it.

717
00:20:55,650 --> 00:20:56,870
And I find the power of it is

718
00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:57,150
crazy.

719
00:20:57,150 --> 00:20:58,870
You guys mentioned sort of the

720
00:20:59,150 --> 00:21:00,890
health side is last week I started
talking to him.

721
00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:02,630
I'm just curious to test him.

722
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:04,970
I'm like, ask me questions you

723
00:21:05,250 --> 00:21:08,870
need to ask to put a plan together
for me so I can eat healthier and

724
00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:09,350
work out.

725
00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:10,210
And it started asking me questions

726
00:21:10,210 --> 00:21:12,550
and it came up with the most
amazing plan was supplement.

727
00:21:12,590 --> 00:21:15,010
Now, you know, I'd probably take
it to a doctor and say, hey, these

728
00:21:15,010 --> 00:21:15,790
supplements healthy or not.

729
00:21:15,890 --> 00:21:18,550
But it blew me away what I came

730
00:21:18,550 --> 00:21:19,190
back with.

731
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:19,250
Right.

732
00:21:19,250 --> 00:21:22,870
So that's a good way to start just
dipping your tool into these to

733
00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:24,910
make sure that you're comfortable
working with it.

734
00:21:24,910 --> 00:21:29,170
Because there's only thousands of
tools, but that's where I would

735
00:21:29,170 --> 00:21:29,370
start.

736
00:21:29,370 --> 00:21:30,410
There's a large language model.

737
00:21:30,410 --> 00:21:32,870
It could be chat GPT is the most
common.

738
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:34,430
There's perplexity, there's
clodders, all these.

739
00:21:34,430 --> 00:21:36,630
But I would say that's where you
should start.

740
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:36,810
Nice.

741
00:21:36,810 --> 00:21:37,030
Yeah.

742
00:21:37,030 --> 00:21:39,790
Something in your presentation a
few weeks ago, you said that I

743
00:21:39,790 --> 00:21:40,730
thought was pretty fascinating.

744
00:21:40,810 --> 00:21:41,950
There's a book that you were

745
00:21:41,950 --> 00:21:42,350
reading.

746
00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:43,390
It was Transcend.

747
00:21:43,390 --> 00:21:43,630
Transcend.

748
00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:43,850
Yeah.

749
00:21:43,850 --> 00:21:44,250
Transcend.

750
00:21:44,250 --> 00:21:45,870
And you said like the errors in

751
00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:47,950
AI, like people are worried that
AI is going to make errors, but

752
00:21:47,950 --> 00:21:50,290
it's actually just like reflection
as you as a human making errors

753
00:21:50,290 --> 00:21:53,310
because you're the one, you know,
responding or putting in the data,

754
00:21:53,310 --> 00:21:54,910
which was like.

755
00:21:54,910 --> 00:21:56,990
Pretty interesting to me, you

756
00:21:56,990 --> 00:21:57,610
know?
And it truly is.

757
00:21:57,610 --> 00:22:01,270
I think this guy that wrote this
book is Faisal Hulk, I believe is

758
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:01,850
his name.

759
00:22:01,850 --> 00:22:03,870
He said, like, we're scared of AI

760
00:22:03,870 --> 00:22:05,050
because it's us looking in the
mirror.

761
00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:07,690
It's all the good, the bad, the
evil, everything that's learned

762
00:22:07,690 --> 00:22:07,870
on.

763
00:22:07,870 --> 00:22:10,270
And it's funny because I think we

764
00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:12,970
hold technology to a higher
standard than humans because, you

765
00:22:13,170 --> 00:22:14,690
know, we have car crashes every
day.

766
00:22:14,690 --> 00:22:15,670
People die on the highway all the
time.

767
00:22:15,770 --> 00:22:17,410
We don't look at reforming that at
all.

768
00:22:17,410 --> 00:22:20,230
But one autonomous vehicle has a
crash and we have hearing.

769
00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:21,370
We push the panic button.

770
00:22:21,370 --> 00:22:22,050
We're like think tanks.

771
00:22:22,050 --> 00:22:24,570
Like we hold it to a whole
different standard than we do

772
00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:24,850
ourselves.

773
00:22:24,850 --> 00:22:25,430
I don't know.

774
00:22:25,530 --> 00:22:27,270
Have you seen any politicians ever
lie on TV?

775
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:27,710
Probably, right?
It hallucinates.

776
00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:29,090
We're like, oh my gosh, this thing
is crazy.

777
00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:29,770
Don't use it.

778
00:22:29,770 --> 00:22:31,400
We hold it to a different

779
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:31,540
standard.

780
00:22:31,540 --> 00:22:33,100
And I'm not sure why.

781
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:36,060
I don't know the answer on why we
do.

782
00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:37,620
But remember that these tools, we
control them right now.

783
00:22:37,620 --> 00:22:37,760
Right.

784
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,900
Like it's learning from us.

785
00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:41,420
And that's probably my biggest
concern is I'm not worried about

786
00:22:41,420 --> 00:22:42,560
the AI tools.

787
00:22:42,620 --> 00:22:43,680
I'm worried about being in the

788
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,320
right hands of the people that are
actually using these tools.

789
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,440
That's where I think keeps me up
more at night than the tools

790
00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:50,640
themselves.

791
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,640
I think the tools are amazing.

792
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,640
They do amazing things.

793
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,500
We just keep the tools at a higher

794
00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:56,280
standard than we do as humans.

795
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,240
We've always had this technology.

796
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:57,940
We've always done that.

797
00:22:57,940 --> 00:23:00,330
And I'm not sure why.

798
00:23:00,330 --> 00:23:02,310
I don't have the answer for that,
but my pay grade.

799
00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:04,850
this thing is Yeah, I've started
playing around with it a little

800
00:23:05,010 --> 00:23:05,250
more frequently.

801
00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:08,430
Like I had it make a spreadsheet

802
00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:10,010
the other day, which I love
spreadsheets.

803
00:23:10,010 --> 00:23:11,410
It pumped out a spreadsheet in
like a minute.

804
00:23:11,410 --> 00:23:12,610
Yeah, there were some errors.

805
00:23:12,610 --> 00:23:14,290
There's some things I want to

806
00:23:14,290 --> 00:23:14,410
adjust.

807
00:23:14,410 --> 00:23:16,210
And I just told ChatGPT like

808
00:23:16,210 --> 00:23:18,270
change this, change this.

809
00:23:18,270 --> 00:23:18,830
And it did.

810
00:23:18,830 --> 00:23:20,450
That saved me like an hour.

811
00:23:20,450 --> 00:23:22,530
Another one I just used it for is

812
00:23:22,530 --> 00:23:23,010
comparing insurance policies.

813
00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:24,270
Hey, this is my old policy.

814
00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:25,690
This is the new policy.

815
00:23:25,690 --> 00:23:26,490
Can you highlight any differences,

816
00:23:26,610 --> 00:23:28,890
red flags?
And it just made a chart apples to

817
00:23:28,890 --> 00:23:29,050
apples.

818
00:23:29,050 --> 00:23:29,690
Here's the differences.

819
00:23:29,690 --> 00:23:31,490
Here's why this policy is more
superior or not.

820
00:23:31,490 --> 00:23:33,730
Did you just upload a couple of
PDFs for that?

821
00:23:33,730 --> 00:23:34,350
Yeah.

822
00:23:34,350 --> 00:23:37,070
I just dragged in two PDFs and

823
00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:40,130
said, highlight the differences
between these two insurance

824
00:23:40,130 --> 00:23:40,530
policies.

825
00:23:40,530 --> 00:23:41,630
And then trip planning.

826
00:23:41,630 --> 00:23:44,230
I prompted it with, hey, we want
to go to this area.

827
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:45,590
This is the cost.

828
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:48,670
This is what we want to do.

829
00:23:48,670 --> 00:23:50,130
Blah, blah, blah, blah.

830
00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:52,310
And it drafts in things from like

831
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:54,210
Reddit, TripAdvisor, Booking .com.

832
00:23:54,210 --> 00:23:54,630
And it's wild.

833
00:23:54,630 --> 00:23:56,470
It's really cool stuff.

834
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:57,910
And I always say like what we're

835
00:23:57,910 --> 00:24:02,050
using is the worst these tools are
ever going to be.

836
00:24:02,410 --> 00:24:02,750
Exactly.

837
00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:04,770
They're going to go stuff better

838
00:24:04,890 --> 00:24:05,150
every day.

839
00:24:05,150 --> 00:24:07,430
Like I said, of course, I teach in

840
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:07,570
automation.

841
00:24:07,570 --> 00:24:08,730
I have a class today.

842
00:24:08,730 --> 00:24:09,170
It's so funny.

843
00:24:09,270 --> 00:24:10,250
Today, a big announcement came on

844
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:12,990
one of the tools that I demo.

845
00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:14,730
So now, like literally today.

846
00:24:14,730 --> 00:24:17,860
So the class this afternoon is
going to get the latest and

847
00:24:17,860 --> 00:24:19,520
greatest of this new tool that
came on.

848
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,580
And literally next week will be
another tool and another tool.

849
00:24:22,580 --> 00:24:24,460
So it's hard to stay up on it.

850
00:24:24,460 --> 00:24:26,940
That's why I say, like, to me,

851
00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:28,380
ChatGPT is sort of the baseline.

852
00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:29,720
The other tools, if you do a lot

853
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,220
of presentations, there's a tool
called Gamma, G -A -M -M -A.

854
00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:33,960
That's absolutely amazing.

855
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,740
you just put in the data it builds

856
00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:38,100
your deck for you like with all
the graphics all the charts

857
00:24:38,340 --> 00:24:05,150
everything built like literally in
a push of a button because i do a

858
00:24:05,150 --> 00:24:43,680
lot of proposals like changes
you're like it sounds little but

859
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,440
literally i spent four or five
hours something four hours ago now

860
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,320
it's done within 10 minutes like
15 minutes even if i gotta go edit

861
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,540
it and to me that's not the value
like the value for a client isn't

862
00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:55,820
paying me to build a deck to go
Right.

863
00:24:55,820 --> 00:24:56,200
Like a slide.

864
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,980
Now I can spend time actually in

865
00:24:58,180 --> 00:25:00,120
strategy and working in their
business and helping them rather

866
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:04,640
than spending time trying to build
a slide deck for them, which makes

867
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,640
no sense.

868
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:05,760
Right.

869
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,900
It makes no sense.

870
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:09,160
So, you know, even a website.

871
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:14,560
So a song of a client, you know,
if you came to me 10 years ago and

872
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,720
needed a website, it's, you know,
there are seventy five hundred to

873
00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:18,140
fifteen grand and you're 90 days
in.

874
00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:21,920
We can turn around websites for
thirty five hundred dollars in 48

875
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,020
hours.

876
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:24,640
You know, so it's a benefit to the

877
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,720
client as well, because the cost
came down and we can use these

878
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,220
tools at our advantage.

879
00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:29,580
That's just a simple little like

880
00:25:29,580 --> 00:25:30,500
really it's a website.

881
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,600
We're not talking about we're

882
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,300
saving lives.

883
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:33,580
Right.

884
00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:37,140
But that's how these tools have
affected sort of the day to day on

885
00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:38,160
how businesses are run.

886
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:38,560
a slide.

887
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,250
So what do you think a person
could do nowadays to kind of gear

888
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:44,650
up for the future?
Where's the safe bet right now?

889
00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:46,410
Should you just be learning about
AI as much as you can?

890
00:25:46,410 --> 00:25:48,070
as you can?
Yeah, and that's a great question.

891
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:49,730
I think for me, it's like...

892
00:25:49,730 --> 00:25:51,110
Yeah, like knowledge, right?

893
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:51,710
Knowledge is king.

894
00:25:51,710 --> 00:25:52,950
And I think don't be scared of

895
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:53,850
these tools.

896
00:25:53,850 --> 00:25:55,670
A lot of them have free layers in

897
00:25:55,670 --> 00:25:55,930
them.

898
00:25:55,930 --> 00:25:58,290
So you can go and like set up an

899
00:25:58,290 --> 00:26:00,690
account and not pay and play
around with them and see if they

900
00:26:00,690 --> 00:26:02,830
work for lots of them do that.

901
00:26:03,130 --> 00:26:04,030
They typically will start charging

902
00:26:04,030 --> 00:26:05,070
when you start activating them.

903
00:26:05,310 --> 00:26:06,850
I really believe that AI is going

904
00:26:06,850 --> 00:26:08,550
to be just a common term.

905
00:26:08,650 --> 00:26:09,990
If you use AI and you use

906
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:11,610
automation, you're at an advantage
over your competitor.

907
00:26:11,610 --> 00:26:12,910
That's going to stop.

908
00:26:12,910 --> 00:26:14,850
Eventually, it's just going to be

909
00:26:14,850 --> 00:26:15,090
part.

910
00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:16,290
It's going to be because they're

911
00:26:16,290 --> 00:26:17,710
starting to get embedded in tools.

912
00:26:17,710 --> 00:26:19,970
But for me today is, yeah, like

913
00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:22,030
educate yourself, like go into
ChatGP, ask a questions question.

914
00:26:22,030 --> 00:26:24,530
go to youtube watch videos because
everybody's different like even

915
00:26:24,530 --> 00:26:27,450
within your guys's industry to
real estate agents the way you

916
00:26:27,450 --> 00:26:29,850
manage your business is going to
be different like the tools might

917
00:26:29,850 --> 00:26:32,530
be the same but your workflow is
different but i would say yeah

918
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:35,490
just start educating i think
that's my biggest push right now

919
00:26:35,490 --> 00:26:38,790
is trying to get Just people
educated on what's out there, what

920
00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:40,470
you can do, how you can use these
tools.

921
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:41,370
Don't be scared of them.

922
00:26:41,370 --> 00:26:42,950
If you're worried about privacy

923
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:45,670
policy, you can turn a lot of the
sharing off on a lot of these

924
00:26:45,670 --> 00:26:46,570
tools and just educate.

925
00:26:46,570 --> 00:26:47,750
That's step number one.

926
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:49,470
And then step number two is
actually start implementing them

927
00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:50,590
into your day to day.

928
00:26:50,590 --> 00:26:51,990
Just pick one thing.

929
00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:53,910
What's one pain in the butt thing
you do?

930
00:26:53,910 --> 00:26:57,270
You're like, man, if I didn't have
to do this day to day, it would

931
00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:58,510
save me time and energy.

932
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:58,850
Let's automate.

933
00:26:58,850 --> 00:27:02,790
Let's find a tool that will help
you and then move to the next one,

934
00:27:02,790 --> 00:27:04,190
move to the next one.

935
00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:05,210
Like we're automating a workflow

936
00:27:05,210 --> 00:27:06,010
for our dentists.

937
00:27:06,010 --> 00:27:08,330
Like for a dentist, like, so our

938
00:27:08,330 --> 00:27:09,550
jobs, we can automate it.

939
00:27:09,550 --> 00:27:10,470
Like, so it almost every industry

940
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:14,700
we can find value to help automate
things from no matter what the

941
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:15,040
industry is.

942
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,440
What about things like working on

943
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,800
like people skills face to face?
Is there any like AI insulating

944
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,220
skills that you can think of that
would be good?

945
00:27:20,220 --> 00:27:23,000
Yeah, it's interesting because I
work a lot in TRU and in Cambridge

946
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,460
and UBCO and work them in some
stuff.

947
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,100
And one of the things that I've
been noticing is, you know, I have

948
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,960
kids, they have zero like
interpersonal skills, right?

949
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,400
Especially the ones that have
really went through COVID through

950
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,320
school, right?
They miss that a lot.

951
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,200
I'm an old school person.

952
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,700
I like to be in front, try to

953
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:35,200
travel and meet.

954
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,540
You can't replace that.

955
00:27:36,540 --> 00:27:40,180
Like, I really feel like that's
the advantage humans have over any

956
00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:42,240
of this technology because, you
know, I was an event last night.

957
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,320
Like you meet people like.

958
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,220
AI can't do that.

959
00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:44,380
Right.

960
00:27:44,380 --> 00:27:46,300
So I'm still a big believer of,

961
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,600
you know, I want to work with you
because of you.

962
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:47,940
Right.

963
00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:49,460
And I think where I see these

964
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:50,680
tools is behind the scenes.

965
00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:52,680
They can help you with your

966
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:52,860
operations.

967
00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:54,470
They can help you with your

968
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:54,590
workflow.

969
00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:56,590
They can help you with your

970
00:27:56,590 --> 00:27:56,850
content.

971
00:27:56,850 --> 00:27:59,070
But that interpersonal skill, I

972
00:27:59,070 --> 00:28:00,610
think, is super, super important.

973
00:28:00,610 --> 00:28:01,850
The one cool thing that I'll add

974
00:28:01,850 --> 00:28:03,910
about sort of tie in what your
question is, there's tools out

975
00:28:03,910 --> 00:28:06,950
there today that would record our
conversation as we're having this

976
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:08,430
conversation today and give me
feedback.

977
00:28:08,430 --> 00:28:09,690
In real time.

978
00:28:09,690 --> 00:28:11,820
Hey, Rob, like in the 28 minute

979
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:15,180
mark, you could have had more
energy or you didn't hear the

980
00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:16,020
objection from the client.

981
00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:17,400
So they actually becoming coaching

982
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,260
tools for you.

983
00:28:18,260 --> 00:28:20,340
And one way I use ChatGPT because

984
00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:21,060
I use it a lot.

985
00:28:21,060 --> 00:28:21,660
I'll ask it.

986
00:28:21,660 --> 00:28:24,240
I'll say, hey, what do you think I
could do better?

987
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,280
Knowing how I worked with you
today, what are some things I

988
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,220
could do better?
And you'll come back.

989
00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:31,480
It'll come back and say, hey, you
could have done this or what about

990
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,420
this?
Or I'll record meetings and put

991
00:28:32,420 --> 00:28:34,500
them in and say, you know, coach
me what I've could have presented

992
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:34,760
better.

993
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,860
It'll do it for you.

994
00:28:35,860 --> 00:28:36,780
Like it actually becomes your
coach.

995
00:28:36,780 --> 00:28:38,400
You got to be very open and
comfortable to be able to like

996
00:28:38,460 --> 00:28:39,760
take criticism from a computer,
eh?

997
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,590
Like I'm fine with it.

998
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:42,670
fine with it.

999
00:28:42,810 --> 00:28:45,390
Like, so I would think, would
think, would okay.

1000
00:28:45,530 --> 00:28:48,190
Like you call it an agent, like an
AI agent.

1001
00:28:48,190 --> 00:28:49,490
Is that basically like your
assistant?

1002
00:28:49,490 --> 00:28:52,790
Is that in chat GPT?
Like, do you like buy the pro

1003
00:28:52,790 --> 00:28:54,610
version?
And then like, that's essentially

1004
00:28:54,610 --> 00:28:56,370
like, how do you like build this
assistant?

1005
00:28:56,370 --> 00:28:57,230
Good question.

1006
00:28:57,230 --> 00:28:58,130
And agents, I mean, that's the

1007
00:28:58,130 --> 00:28:59,490
buzzword right now.

1008
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,860
Like a lot of people say agents.

1009
00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:04,680
There's a couple of different
things I'll unpack there.

1010
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,960
One is if you want to create a
digital twin of yourself, that

1011
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,120
would be more like an avatar where
you can use it.

1012
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,560
I think I might have played one at
the presentation.

1013
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,060
Taylor wasn't sure, but that's
your digital avatar.

1014
00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:16,100
So it's basically a duplicate of
you.

1015
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:17,040
It could create content.

1016
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,840
You can upload a script.

1017
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,620
You'll read a script.

1018
00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:20,840
You can put it on LinkedIn,

1019
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,180
whatever.

1020
00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:22,520
So that's a little bit different.

1021
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,600
Then there's probably two
different sides when it comes to

1022
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,860
sort of that agentic side is one
is you can.

1023
00:29:26,860 --> 00:29:29,300
Create an agent that will do stuff
for you, right?

1024
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:33,140
You can say, go in and post my
LinkedIn, comment on my LinkedIn,

1025
00:29:33,140 --> 00:29:33,300
whatever.

1026
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:34,820
That's one area of an agent.

1027
00:29:34,820 --> 00:29:38,300
Another area of an agent, it will,
you know, is I'll answer the phone

1028
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:39,140
for you.

1029
00:29:39,140 --> 00:29:40,080
So those aren't necessarily built

1030
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:40,880
in ChatGPT.

1031
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,060
ChatGPT is the wrapper around it

1032
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,380
because it needs to be powered by
something.

1033
00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:47,600
So it needs to be powered by a
large angle of model.

1034
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,000
But you're typically using another
piece of software to layer on top

1035
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,380
of ChatGPT.

1036
00:29:50,380 --> 00:29:51,740
And they're already built.

1037
00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:54,200
Like, it's not like you need to go
code.

1038
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,740
There's ones that, you know,
whatever.

1039
00:29:55,740 --> 00:29:57,750
There's lots of agent software out
there.

1040
00:29:57,750 --> 00:30:00,090
And then the third thing is
workflows, right?

1041
00:30:00,090 --> 00:30:01,390
You can automate workflows.

1042
00:30:01,390 --> 00:30:02,810
You can use tools like make

1043
00:30:02,810 --> 00:30:04,870
com where actually you build an
actual workflow.

1044
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:07,430
It'll take your work and automate
it for you.

1045
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:08,190
So it's kind of agentic.

1046
00:30:08,190 --> 00:30:09,790
It's not a person, but it actually

1047
00:30:09,790 --> 00:30:10,850
is automating the workflow.

1048
00:30:11,030 --> 00:30:12,030
An email comes in.

1049
00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:12,990
It goes to ChatGPT and writes it.

1050
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:14,950
It comes to you to approve it.

1051
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:15,670
It gets sent.

1052
00:30:15,670 --> 00:30:17,230
It gets added to a database.

1053
00:30:17,230 --> 00:30:18,820
It goes into a drip and it'll
automate.

1054
00:30:18,820 --> 00:30:19,480
do that for you.

1055
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,720
How long does it take to learn?

1056
00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:22,100
Like what's the evolution?
Is it over?

1057
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:23,400
A couple of days, a couple of
weeks?

1058
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,160
I mean, mean, typically, if you
just wanted to be like an FAQ bot

1059
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,540
on your website, you can do that
in a couple of days.

1060
00:30:28,540 --> 00:30:32,020
If you wanted to really replace
and act like you, we'd like to

1061
00:30:32,140 --> 00:30:35,420
have about a 30 day runway because
you need to train it.

1062
00:30:35,420 --> 00:30:37,960
You need to be able to give it
data like you would record stuff

1063
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,300
like this in meetings and load
your transcript in there.

1064
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:42,780
So it starts understanding how you
talk, what your tone is.

1065
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:43,760
Are you professional?
You're not.

1066
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,980
Do you like to joke around?
It actually starts learning and

1067
00:30:45,980 --> 00:30:48,330
then you can tell it not.

1068
00:30:48,330 --> 00:30:49,590
You can say, hey, like.

1069
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:52,570
I'm known as sort of a little bit
of the jackass in the office and

1070
00:30:52,570 --> 00:30:53,010
I'm witty.

1071
00:30:53,010 --> 00:30:53,410
That's mean.

1072
00:30:53,410 --> 00:30:53,890
I'm OK.

1073
00:30:53,890 --> 00:30:54,630
That's my style.

1074
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:57,190
But you might say, well, no, like,
you know what, in this meeting, in

1075
00:30:57,190 --> 00:31:00,030
this context, you need to be more
professional.

1076
00:31:00,070 --> 00:31:02,590
So you need to train it to be that
as well.

1077
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:03,610
It never stops learning.

1078
00:31:03,610 --> 00:31:04,110
Right.

1079
00:31:04,110 --> 00:31:06,690
As you do more, as you do more,
it's going to learn more.

1080
00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:08,150
It's going to learn more.

1081
00:31:08,150 --> 00:31:09,230
It's going to learn more.

1082
00:31:09,230 --> 00:31:11,170
And then right now, like ChatGPT,
I make very little changes to

1083
00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:13,270
anything it does for me because it
knows me.

1084
00:31:13,270 --> 00:31:14,370
Like almost no changes to anything
I do.

1085
00:31:14,370 --> 00:31:17,510
When I first started using it, I
would almost like rewrite it all.

1086
00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:18,730
Because it just didn't know my
tone.

1087
00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:20,510
It didn't know who I was.

1088
00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:21,130
Right.

1089
00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:22,590
So. Oh, my God.

1090
00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:24,970
So how long do you think it'll be

1091
00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:26,970
where you could jump on a podcast
like this?

1092
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:28,110
It's actually not even you.

1093
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:28,250
There.

1094
00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:28,990
It's already there.

1095
00:31:29,170 --> 00:31:29,990
already there.

1096
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:33,550
There's people that's sending
avatars to their virtual meetings.

1097
00:31:33,550 --> 00:31:35,270
Like there's a program called No
Poke LM.

1098
00:31:35,270 --> 00:31:37,790
You can upload a document, go
create a podcast voice, and then

1099
00:31:37,790 --> 00:31:41,490
you can go to Hey Jen and put two
people in front of it.

1100
00:31:41,490 --> 00:31:42,870
And there's your podcast done.

1101
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:43,490
Oh, damn.

1102
00:31:43,490 --> 00:31:44,450
We're out of the job.

1103
00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:44,590
Yeah.

1104
00:31:44,590 --> 00:31:46,920
The Colorado real estate podcast
is soon to be.

1105
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,420
Oh my God.

1106
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:47,980
my God.

1107
00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:50,780
I mean, I don't recommend it
necessarily because I think I said

1108
00:31:50,780 --> 00:31:54,360
there's some things that you still
want the human involvement.

1109
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,400
You could do it.

1110
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,640
That's what I mean.

1111
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,080
Like.

1112
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,080
There's not a lot of things out

1113
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,160
there that you could ask.

1114
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,640
And I'm like, no, we can probably

1115
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:03,840
automate.

1116
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,420
No, we could probably do AI.

1117
00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:08,980
There's almost anything, right?
And that's where I think, again,

1118
00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:11,580
people just need to start wrapping
their heads around that these

1119
00:32:11,580 --> 00:32:12,340
tools are here.

1120
00:32:12,340 --> 00:32:13,520
It's not like this is coming.

1121
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,440
It's here today.

1122
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,620
And that's what people are doing.

1123
00:32:15,630 --> 00:32:17,310
I think I talked about it in the
presentation.

1124
00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:17,570
There's influencers.

1125
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:18,190
There's AI influencers.

1126
00:32:18,190 --> 00:32:19,820
One in Spain, Tina Lopez, I
believe.

1127
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:20,240
Maybe Etiana Lopez.

1128
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,320
She has, I don't know, hundreds of

1129
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,120
thousands of followers.

1130
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,920
She makes 10 ,000 euros a month.

1131
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,280
And she's an AI influencer.

1132
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:26,580
That's insane.

1133
00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:26,800
involvement.

1134
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,240
So I've heard of this and I've

1135
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,080
heard a few other ones, but why
isn't there just like... thousands

1136
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,380
of those now or millions or
exactly why isn't there is there

1137
00:32:33,380 --> 00:32:36,300
going to be we created one so we
have allen colonna and part of it

1138
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,280
was just us testing right to play
with these tools but i think that

1139
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,120
you're not going to know the
difference soon you know that's

1140
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,440
the scary part you're not right
you're not going to know what's

1141
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,240
real and what's ai it's at that
level there's videos created now

1142
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,160
that you would not know do you
think that they're a hollywood

1143
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,560
animated video isn't there is
there going to be we created one

1144
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,360
so we have allen colonna and part
of it was just us testing right to

1145
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,840
play with these tools but i think
that you're not going to know the

1146
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,460
difference soon you know that's
the scary part you're not right

1147
00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:05,120
you're not going to know what's
real and what's ai it's at that

1148
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,460
level there's videos created now
that you would not know do you

1149
00:33:06,460 --> 00:33:07,540
think that they're a hollywood
animated video It's totally not.

1150
00:33:07,540 --> 00:33:10,380
They're just TikTok accounts that
are 100 % AI.

1151
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:13,400
The big trend right now, if you
guys seen, there's a, I don't know

1152
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,760
if you guys are TikTok guys, but
there's a gorilla in the wild that

1153
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,240
goes in.

1154
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,020
It's all AI.

1155
00:33:18,020 --> 00:33:19,690
It's like one of the most followed
accounts.

1156
00:33:19,690 --> 00:33:22,630
And it's super funny if you like
that kind of humor in a Yeti.

1157
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:24,090
That's all AI, right?
Like, so there are accounts

1158
00:33:24,090 --> 00:33:25,050
already doing this sort of stuff.

1159
00:33:25,050 --> 00:33:26,230
There really are.

1160
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:29,890
Do you think it'll just pollute
social media so much that it'll

1161
00:33:29,890 --> 00:33:31,510
just be like boring?
know in.

1162
00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:34,270
you think it'll just pollute
social media so much that it'll

1163
00:33:34,270 --> 00:33:37,290
just be like boring?
Because it would just be so fake.

1164
00:33:37,290 --> 00:33:39,730
So, I mean, I'd argue, like, I
think social media is fake now.

1165
00:33:39,730 --> 00:33:40,610
Yeah, good point.

1166
00:33:40,610 --> 00:33:41,510
Because we're taking pictures

1167
00:33:41,510 --> 00:33:44,510
inside of a Haldell plane and
going, I'm in my jet.

1168
00:33:44,810 --> 00:33:46,270
Right?
Like, so I think you're seeing

1169
00:33:46,270 --> 00:33:48,510
that already, right?
You can rent a Lamborghini and go,

1170
00:33:50,060 --> 00:33:51,940
look, I'm in my new vehicle.

1171
00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:53,600
And they just rented it for 10

1172
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,740
minutes just to do the shot,
right?

1173
00:33:54,740 --> 00:33:57,320
So I'm hoping, again, I'm back to
saying that I'm not worried about

1174
00:33:57,690 --> 00:33:58,170
the tools.

1175
00:33:58,170 --> 00:33:59,170
I'm worried about how the humans

1176
00:33:59,170 --> 00:33:59,950
are going to use them.

1177
00:33:59,950 --> 00:34:01,210
If this is done right, it's about

1178
00:34:01,370 --> 00:34:03,390
working with your clients at a
real personalized level, right?

1179
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:07,470
So you could create content at
scale and you can have a database

1180
00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:10,449
of 10 ,000 people and send out 10
,000 personalized messages to 10

1181
00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:11,830
,000 people relevant to them.

1182
00:34:11,830 --> 00:34:13,830
And people are going to love it

1183
00:34:13,969 --> 00:34:15,290
because now you're sending me
something that's pertaining to

1184
00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:15,850
Rob.

1185
00:34:16,070 --> 00:34:16,310
right?

1186
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:20,810
You can people are going to love
it because now you're sending me

1187
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:22,090
something that's pertaining to
Rob.

1188
00:34:22,170 --> 00:34:25,929
right if you use these tools right
i don't think we'll pollute it now

1189
00:34:25,929 --> 00:34:29,989
can you pollute it for sure 100
you don't think the next election

1190
00:34:29,989 --> 00:34:32,489
that comes is going to be like
they already did a stat on the

1191
00:34:32,489 --> 00:34:36,040
last canadian election and i don't
know it was crazy amount like 60

1192
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,820
of the posts on social media were
bots like going to make comments

1193
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:40,460
and talking about that yeah That's
what I mean.

1194
00:34:40,460 --> 00:34:41,500
Like it's there already.

1195
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:42,540
It's how we use it.

1196
00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:45,719
Like it's the most powerful tool
we ever had in my lifetime, for

1197
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:45,940
sure.

1198
00:34:45,940 --> 00:34:48,340
And you can use it for bad or you

1199
00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:49,219
can use it for good.

1200
00:34:49,219 --> 00:34:50,699
That's my biggest concern is that

1201
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:53,699
the people with all the power are
going to own these tools.

1202
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:54,280
That's where I'm worried.

1203
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Like if only Sam Altman and Google

1204
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,239
and Elon own these tools, because
we're not going to create a large

1205
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,940
language model.

1206
00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:40,780
We don't have billions of dollars

1207
00:34:40,780 --> 00:34:41,840
to go create it.

1208
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,520
We're at the mercy of them.

1209
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,960
That's probably where I'm the
biggest thing.

1210
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,400
But today.

1211
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,960
about that yeah We're on level

1212
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,400
playing field.

1213
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Nike uses the same tools that a

1214
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,100
client in Kelowna could use.

1215
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:50,500
Yeah.

1216
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:50,940
Same tool.

1217
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:51,260
Right.

1218
00:34:51,260 --> 00:34:53,960
So that's right now it's a level
playing field for businesses right

1219
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,880
now with these tools.

1220
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,950
Yeah, I guess like related to

1221
00:34:58,050 --> 00:34:58,170
housing.

1222
00:34:58,170 --> 00:34:59,510
Yeah, we have podcasts all the

1223
00:34:59,510 --> 00:35:01,090
time where we just talk about
stuff we're interested in.

1224
00:35:01,090 --> 00:35:01,890
specifically to like Kelowna
housing.

1225
00:35:01,950 --> 00:35:03,390
You know, if a developer was
interested in this geographical

1226
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:05,330
location, how many people come
here a day?

1227
00:35:05,330 --> 00:35:07,970
What's the traffic like?
What's the density you're allowed?

1228
00:35:07,970 --> 00:35:10,310
Like there's so many things that
you could just input and probably

1229
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:11,530
have a report in an hour.

1230
00:35:11,530 --> 00:35:12,990
Is it deep thought?

1231
00:35:12,990 --> 00:35:13,370
Deep research.

1232
00:35:13,530 --> 00:35:13,930
Deep research.

1233
00:35:14,050 --> 00:35:14,110
Yeah.

1234
00:35:14,110 --> 00:35:16,010
So is that like taking off

1235
00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:17,410
recently?
Yeah, we just did a project for a

1236
00:35:17,410 --> 00:35:17,530
client.

1237
00:35:17,530 --> 00:35:19,690
I won't mention it, but he's a

1238
00:35:19,690 --> 00:35:17,530
developer in Kelowna that was
looking for that sort of data.

1239
00:35:17,530 --> 00:35:19,690
How many people go into the
downtown core?

1240
00:35:19,690 --> 00:35:21,820
How many competitors are around?
We use deep research to find all

1241
00:35:21,820 --> 00:35:22,760
that data.

1242
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:24,480
Now, I say research, like, you

1243
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:26,120
know, look through to make sure
you're right.

1244
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:30,960
But I mean, it's crazy the amount
of data that it came in and give

1245
00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:31,160
us.

1246
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,660
What it'll do is go get census

1247
00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:33,900
information.

1248
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:35,940
I mean, there's no different than

1249
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:37,420
if I had to do it myself.

1250
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,440
Unless I'm going to go stand

1251
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,140
downtown and count people, I'm
pulling it off of the Internet.

1252
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:41,600
I'm pulling it off reports.

1253
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,700
That's what it did.

1254
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:45,500
and deep research the way it works
for people who are not familiar is

1255
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:48,180
that literally like it sounds it
won't give you an answer right

1256
00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:52,420
away it'll like go away and think
and research and like go and dig

1257
00:35:52,540 --> 00:35:52,580
deeper.

1258
00:35:52,580 --> 00:35:55,000
Sometimes it takes half hour to an

1259
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,460
hour to come back to you, but it
comes back with super robust

1260
00:35:57,460 --> 00:35:58,660
information for you.

1261
00:35:58,660 --> 00:36:01,340
And the difference in the free

1262
00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:05,020
version, I think you only get five
of those a month in the pre

1263
00:36:05,020 --> 00:36:03,200
version, you get like exponential
amount, like 20 of the deep

1264
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,740
researches for that industry.

1265
00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:05,020
And like the housing industry,

1266
00:36:05,020 --> 00:36:06,720
super powerful tool that you can
use.

1267
00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:09,610
That's just one simple way that
they can use it.

1268
00:36:09,610 --> 00:36:12,110
You know what else is funny?
Just thinking about this right now

1269
00:36:12,110 --> 00:36:14,970
is like a developer submitting a
proposal to like city hall, they

1270
00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:15,050
could.

1271
00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:16,610
Do this and then have it tailored

1272
00:36:16,610 --> 00:36:19,450
to each counselor and have a
section there that's tailored to

1273
00:36:19,450 --> 00:36:23,390
that counselor to try and get the
votes to vote for it.

1274
00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:23,630
Yeah.

1275
00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:24,010
Right.

1276
00:36:24,010 --> 00:36:27,320
The power of persuasion now is
like kind of taking a huge.

1277
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,280
That's a great point because it's
just these tools have allowed to

1278
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,960
personalize the communication with
whatever audiences 100 percent.

1279
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,220
a great point because it's just
these tools have allowed to

1280
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:36,140
personalize the communication with
whatever audiences 100 percent.

1281
00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:38,600
And it does it in real time, like
in real time.

1282
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:38,780
Right.

1283
00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:40,300
So from an education point and, an

1284
00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:42,760
education point and, you know, I'm
talking elementary to university.

1285
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Like, is this being embraced?
by education are they now saying

1286
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,720
like yeah we're promoting this
like here's an assignment use ai

1287
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,080
or is it still no this is our
curriculum like you are not

1288
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,020
allowed to use ai It's super ad
hoc.

1289
00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:26,630
That's like one of my passion
projects of working with AI and

1290
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,400
education in that space.

1291
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,740
And my kids are graduated or soon

1292
00:36:58,740 --> 00:36:59,700
to be graduated.

1293
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,540
But there's an area there that my

1294
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,900
kids school is in Kamloops,
actually goes to school there.

1295
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:06,880
And they sent a memo or a memo.

1296
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:08,020
What am I, 1952?

1297
00:37:08,020 --> 00:37:10,560
An email at the start of the
school year that said no Apple

1298
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,460
watches, no phones, no computers,
no iPads in the classroom.

1299
00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:16,640
And I'm like, WTF, this is crazy.

1300
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,260
Like, can you start embracing this

1301
00:37:19,260 --> 00:37:20,960
and teaching the kids how to use
it?

1302
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:23,200
You don't think my son uses AI.

1303
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,240
His dad teaches AI.

1304
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,820
So of course he uses AI, but I
teach him how to use it properly,

1305
00:37:27,820 --> 00:37:29,560
right?
Like at a university level, some

1306
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,200
educators are embracing this 100%.

1307
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,920
And some educators are like, no,

1308
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,000
you can't use it in my classroom.

1309
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,200
So there's not a consistent policy

1310
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:36,480
in place.

1311
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,100
It's starting to come around

1312
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:38,240
overseas.

1313
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:39,660
They're teaching it in China.

1314
00:37:39,660 --> 00:37:40,680
They're teaching it at like...

1315
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,640
Grade two level, grade one level,

1316
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,400
because it's coming.

1317
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,720
You shouldn't shelter the kids

1318
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,260
from it because they're going to
be at a disadvantage because

1319
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,900
they're going to graduate and come
into the workforce.

1320
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,000
Right now, we're not hiring unless
you know these tools.

1321
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,280
Plain and simple, you know, our
team is either use it or you can

1322
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,980
go find another job.

1323
00:37:54,980 --> 00:37:56,120
And I don't sound like an ass

1324
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,520
saying it, but it's because it's
efficiency to our clients.

1325
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,380
Like in our industry, we're
working with our clients' money.

1326
00:38:00,380 --> 00:38:02,920
right it's not our money we're
working with our clients money we

1327
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,000
need to be as efficient as
possible and if you know use these

1328
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,780
tools or at least want to learn so
these kids that are coming out of

1329
00:38:07,780 --> 00:38:10,060
university or high school and
don't have the knowledge and how

1330
00:38:10,060 --> 00:38:13,590
to use it properly they're not
going to find jobs.

1331
00:38:13,590 --> 00:38:16,030
Because if I know it and you
don't, I'm going to get hired

1332
00:38:16,030 --> 00:38:16,410
before you.

1333
00:38:16,410 --> 00:38:19,050
So to answer your question, it's

1334
00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:20,330
really ad hoc right now.

1335
00:38:20,330 --> 00:38:21,390
Like there's no policy in place,

1336
00:38:21,390 --> 00:38:22,310
but it's starting to come.

1337
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:23,370
Like we're starting to hear more,

1338
00:38:23,530 --> 00:38:25,490
starting to implement it more,
starting to bring it into

1339
00:38:25,490 --> 00:38:26,350
classrooms more.

1340
00:38:26,350 --> 00:38:27,890
I think we're going to start

1341
00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:31,590
seeing it because they have to,
because I think the shift is going

1342
00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:32,350
to come.

1343
00:38:32,350 --> 00:38:33,650
And I mean, I don't know where

1344
00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:34,170
it's going to go.

1345
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:35,070
There's AI schools in the US.

1346
00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:38,750
There's schools that only teach
using AI in the US right now,

1347
00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:39,330
right?
So.

1348
00:38:39,330 --> 00:38:39,530
Wow.

1349
00:38:39,870 --> 00:38:40,130
Yeah.

1350
00:38:40,130 --> 00:38:41,010
Well, segue into teaching.

1351
00:38:41,010 --> 00:38:43,370
I believe you have.

1352
00:38:43,370 --> 00:38:46,690
course starting in like 15 minutes
so we gotta we gotta let you go

1353
00:38:46,690 --> 00:38:48,930
but what is your education process
like can people sign up for

1354
00:38:48,930 --> 00:38:51,590
courses that you currently run
gotta let you Yeah, I mean, right

1355
00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:53,230
now I only have one course.

1356
00:38:53,230 --> 00:38:54,490
It's called the AI Advantage.

1357
00:38:54,490 --> 00:38:56,590
It's a six -week course.

1358
00:38:56,590 --> 00:38:53,050
I teach it for six weeks, take a

1359
00:38:53,050 --> 00:38:54,730
little bit of a break, teach it
again.

1360
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:58,630
Once you sign up once, you're in
it forever.

1361
00:38:58,850 --> 00:39:02,050
So you can come take the sprints
as many times because these change

1362
00:39:02,250 --> 00:39:02,850
all the time.

1363
00:39:02,850 --> 00:39:04,310
It's the only sort of paid course

1364
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:04,670
I have.

1365
00:39:04,750 --> 00:39:05,030
It's $197.

1366
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:07,170
It's really reasonable.

1367
00:39:07,570 --> 00:39:08,470
It's six weeks.

1368
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:11,030
But we also do free workshops.

1369
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:13,510
We do lots of free workshops.

1370
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:15,890
Every month I do a free webinar.

1371
00:39:15,890 --> 00:39:17,430
So we try to just get education

1372
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:17,890
out there.

1373
00:39:17,890 --> 00:39:18,410
That's my focus.

1374
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:21,160
right now is education side to get
people the businesses understand

1375
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,660
we're going to be launching a boot
camp in august we're just working

1376
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:27,040
through that a three -day boot
camp people just want to condense

1377
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,880
sort of learning i teach more on
like i want to say the basics like

1378
00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:34,140
any business can come in and
really understand and the idea is

1379
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:38,020
by the end of the six weeks i give
you homework go build your logo go

1380
00:39:38,020 --> 00:39:42,600
build your website go build your
video like so every class you're

1381
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,700
building on it and by the end of
six weeks you kind of have

1382
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:48,860
something you're leaving with as
well That's sort of how I teach.

1383
00:39:48,940 --> 00:39:51,880
And if you want to go deeper, you
know, UBCO has programs online.

1384
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,020
They've got a lot of programs.

1385
00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:53,760
I teach all the modalities and

1386
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,760
just getting real baseline.

1387
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,280
I'm going to show you some tools.

1388
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,440
I'm going to teach you theory.

1389
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,180
And then you can go off, explore

1390
00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:03,460
yourself a little bit with these
tools.

1391
00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:06,940
That's sort of the program, how
it's set up.

1392
00:40:06,940 --> 00:40:07,100
Awesome.

1393
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,960
And if somebody is running a

1394
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,740
business like you work with
business people to do like a

1395
00:40:11,740 --> 00:40:13,960
whiteboard session, audit them,
see what you can streamline,

1396
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,660
implement this stuff.

1397
00:40:14,660 --> 00:40:15,540
So I nerd out on this stuff.

1398
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:16,980
nerd out on this stuff.

1399
00:40:16,980 --> 00:40:18,260
Happy to come in, work with

1400
00:40:18,260 --> 00:40:22,120
businesses and kind of map out how
they can add AI and automation in

1401
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,760
their businesses and build them a
little bit of framework on how

1402
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,400
they can do that.

1403
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,180
And every business is different.

1404
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:29,380
So we kind of do, yeah, we do this
whiteboard session where we come

1405
00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:31,360
in and really understand the
business operations, the workflow,

1406
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,800
and then see where we can add
value within AI and automation

1407
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,620
within those for sure.

1408
00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:34,940
I love it.

1409
00:40:34,940 --> 00:40:38,100
Well, how can people reach out to
you if they have any questions?

1410
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,880
The best way for me is LinkedIn.

1411
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,280
The best way for me is LinkedIn.

1412
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,020
Like you think in the industry, I
mean, I'd be in all the social

1413
00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:47,120
channels, but the best way you can
go to our website, checkcreative

1414
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,360
com or my LinkedIn, Rob Capello,
easy to find.

1415
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,720
I'm active on LinkedIn.

1416
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:51,180
You can message me on LinkedIn.

1417
00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:53,260
I'm always happy to grab coffee
and chat as well.

1418
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,040
So it's probably the best way to
reach me.

1419
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,220
Well, thank you so much for your
time, Rob.

1420
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,180
Really appreciate it, man.

1421
00:40:58,180 --> 00:40:58,360
Yeah.

1422
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,480
Thanks a ton.

1423
00:40:59,480 --> 00:40:59,900
Like so fascinating.

1424
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:00,760
Next time I'm sending my avatar.

1425
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,140
time I'm sending my avatar.

1426
00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:02,300
Yes.

1427
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:03,320
I'm questioning right now if I'm

1428
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,140
speaking to you or not.

1429
00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:04,360
Okay.

1430
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:04,520
Thanks.

1431
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Well, have a great day, man.