In an alternate universe, did Travis Barker end up with Kim Kardashian? Caitlyn reveals sad truth.

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Hi, am welcome to card to
Walk. Today's news on All the Kardashians,

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All the Family, All in under
ten minutes. Caitlyn Jenna has revealed

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the sad truth about her current relationship
with ex wife Chris Jenner during an interview

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on UK Daytime show This Morning on
Wednesday, Caitlin sheared twenty two years of

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marriage with Chris, as well as
welcoming two children together, Kendall and Kylie.

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But speaking ahead of the release of
her three part telll series House of

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Kardashian, Caitlan said their relationship has
certainly taken its toll over the years,

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admitting it was really sad. Caitlin
recalled her first meeting with Chris, which

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took place before she transitioned and was
known as Bruce. She said, I

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had been single for six years and
really kind of struggling with myself and who

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I was and how I would fit
into the world. I was just turning

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forty and met Chris on a bland
date. We hit it off from day

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one. Was at love at first
sight pretty close to that. Yes,

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I was totally impressed with her and
how she lived her life. She had

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four kids. I had four kids, and we got married five and a

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half months later. It was very
quick. As far as their relationship now

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is concerned, she explained, well, Chris and I never really talk anymore.

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It's sad. If there's any communication. My manager kind of talks to

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her. And when you have as
many kids as I have, you're closer

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to some than you are to others. I certainly see them and we do

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this and that. I'm much closer
to the genocide, but Chris, I

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don't really have any more contact with
her. It's kind of sad because we

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went through a lot. The new
documentary series will feature unseen archival footage and

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firsthand testimony from the families. In
a circle in an alternate universe? Did

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Travis Barker end up with Kim Kardashian
instead of her sister Courtney? This from

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Becka wood At Today, as the
sister's feud plays out on the Kardashians,

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fans are pouring over archives, including
Barker's memoir, which details has strong attraction

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to Kim. All their problems just
made sense, one user wrote on x

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In the twenty fifteen memoir, can
I say the Blink? One eighty two

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drummer who was married and expecting a
child with Courtney, revealed that he also

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had a connection with her younger sister, Kim. At the time, Barker

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was dating Paris Hilton, who flew
out to the rock bands to a show

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in Amsterdam and brought along Kim.
Kim used to organize people's closets, and

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at the time she was working as
Paris's closet girl, he wrote in the

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memoir. She would grab Paris's bags, put them in the closet, unpack

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them, but everything where Paris could
find it. Barker then said he Hilton,

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Kim, and others rented bicycles and
rode all over Amsterdam. While on

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their ride, he said, they
all got high as a kite at a

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coffee shop, then made their way
to the absentthe bar and the iconic Red

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Lake District. I kept on secretly
checking Kim out, telling little Chris,

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I don't care if she's the closet
girl, She's eving hot, he wrote.

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Barker explained that he and Kim stayed
in touch after Amsterdam, but after

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being back in Los Angeles, he
was busy struggling to heal from a broken

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arm before rounding up Blink One Eddy
two's European tour. He wound up back

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on a plane to Europe and was
more on drugs than ever before, Oxyconton

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weed and now booze. But the
guilt settled in and Barker said he was

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in a dark place, one that
left asking who was I a father or

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a rock star. He went home
at the time to care for his two

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kids, Landon and Alabama, both
of them he shares with ex wife Shannon

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Mochler. Once back in California,
Barker said he bought her house for the

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family before he and Mochali split in
two thousand and eight. The singer explains

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his post break up love life in
the book, which includes a detour with

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Kim. When I was having some
time off with Shan, I started talking

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with Kim, he said. Barker
said Kim's sex tape had just been released

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and she had recently broken up with
Ray J. The now forty two year

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old told him that she was in
the initial stages of planning a reality show

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for her family. I respected her
hustle, he wrote. Chloe doesn't see

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the value in treating someone poorly just
because it's how they've treated her. But

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in an exclusive preview from the forthcoming
second episode of The Kardashians. She is

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and where the source of mistreatment could
be coming from, particularly as it relates

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to her boyfriend Tristan per rolling Stone. Tristan has said before, like I'm

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his person. I'm not saying I
don't believe him, but I've heard this,

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and of course it's angered me before
because I'm like, well, if

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I am, then why would you
have treated me this way? And how

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many times? Kardashian questions in the
clip, this isn't like a one time

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thing. And here we are and
I love love and I'm a hopeless romantic,

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but that's not going to change how
I feel and what happened. Kardashian's

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relationship with Thompson has been a long
running point of contention, which was alluded

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to in the first official trailer for
the series. Conflict arose around Chris Janice

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Thompson, particularly her boasting about how
much of a hands on dad he is

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to her granddaughter, rather than holding
him accountable for his treatment of her daughter.

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In one instance, Courtney tells Thompson
straight to his face, I don't

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think you deserve Chloe. Still,
he leans on her and a family for

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support for me. You know,
it's entering this new chapter in my life.

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It's always good to have some strong
supports system, people who believe in

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you, he tells Chloe in the
preview, But again she isn't interested in

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getting even with him. No matter
what. We're not a family of an

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eye for an eye, especially in
times of needs. She responds, that's

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when you rally together. And I
want to be good for lifetimes after this.

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I want my karma to just always
be great. More card to work

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in just a moment. The Kardashians
are no strangers to luxury travel. For

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one of their recent family vacations featured
in season four, they stayed at the

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fashion designer James Purce's private estate in
Carbo, San Lucas. The property essentially

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operates as a private resort, meaning
it's possible for deep pocketed fans to book

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a stay. The estate is known
as Grayscape and consists of five private suites.

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One of those, with a connected
kids room and three guest rooms,

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is considered the main suite At Grayscape. Alfresco living and dining areas in an

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open air fitness studio and media room
allow guests to maximize the dreaming environment.

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Opulent amenities included a dead private chef
and butler service, private yoga, massage

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services, Chaufford car service, and
a James Purse store for shopping apparel and

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home furnishings. There's also an infinity
pool at Jacuzzi, direct access to a

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beach where guests can engage in a
variety of outdoor activities from scuba diving to

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surfing, and of course, the
property is under twenty four hour security and

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monitoring for safety. It turns out
you can't quickly reserve the place online.

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Instead, anyone who is interested in
making a reservation can contact the James person

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team by email. While there's no
pricing information on the website, some sources

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place the nightly rate at eight thousand
dollars. And then you have it.

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