Aug. 17, 2022
BroMitzfa da Shitza
In this episode Jill, Aja, and Laiya discuss their summer adventures. Jill shares and epic trip she took with her son Jett for his 13th birthday, a BroMitzfa. Epic trips require epic planning, here’s a resource for getting a quick jumpstart on starting your vacation fund. https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/banking/best-money-saving-apps
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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's Amber the producer here. I just want to give a quick disclaimer before we jump into the show. And this episode, the ladies make reference to some of their personal health choices related to COVID nineteen. Who wants you to know? The jed i il Podcast would like to clarify that we are not authorized to give any medical advice or recommendations. Any of our opinions are our own and not a reflection of the views of our Heart Media. Welcome to j dot ill a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome, Welcome back to j dot il podcast. It's been a whole minute, not too long, but it's funny long, you know. Um. Welcome back to ja dot ilbo podcast. I'm sitting here with my sister friends li Yah Saint Claire allowed one. My bad. It's sound so lady like, it sounds genteel. It's like I don't know what to do. I've got the wrong silver. Well, well you need to call li st Clair. She didn't tells you what to do. Oh what, I love it? You a whole character, honey and al grad that soon that would be jis what is she? The name? Her name? Do her name? My name sound like somebody's third grade teacher. It's the dam graden Daniel Dunzler sounds like I've run a nonprofit. I can definitely, you don't have to talk about what Jill Scott sound like. That's that's it. My mother made sure I got a job. She was like, she said, they ain't gonna know, They're not not gonna know till you show up, baby girl, until she put that exclamation point on it. Then it was like, well, wait a minute, who's that hold up? Now? It's not like somebody drunk. That's what it sounds like. Yo. You know how many people thinks of the show putting exclamation points on their baby's names. I'm just gonna tell you it's happening. It's happening. Listen. I want to put nothing past. Like I told you, there's a brother on the TikTok that talks about African Americans and linguistics and our language, which which is affectionately called now a a V which is African American vernacular English. The language, the language, Oh, the words, it's a thing. I think it's been a lot of new language and words while we've been inside. I don't know if it's just me like, what, like what covid E? Girl, Like what you just said? A A B E T T A V E. I feel like since COVID, did we get a couple more letters for the l B G t Q community. Plus? Yeah, you just go plus, you just go. Well, I noticed that the plus is there now that I didn't know about that before. But I don't think because we just found out it was it hasn't been there for a long time. Oh yeah, well they and they ended up adding some more eyes and aids, and so when you start doubling up on letters, you might as well just throw that plus up in there. Not to confuse the layman or the cis, all the cysts, all the cists heteros out here, right. But then also to one of my children, was like putting me down that there's not as multiple flags. Too good. God, hey, now it should be UTI flags as well. All right, that makes sense, listen. I know it confuses everybody else, but I enjoy it. I like people see. One of one of the quandsa principles is name yourself, define yourself for yourself. And so I feel as if if you are defining yourself for yourself, I am your cheerleader. I live with you in them, so yes, I'm with you. Listen, y'all. We we had a we had a we had a sub one. I know it's um, it's kind of early in the game, Um far as summer is concerned. UM, but we really did have quite the summer. This is the first time that the three of us have really and truly been outside outside. But for you too, you haven't been going anywhere. Everybody's been staying close to home. You know, we're we're being mindful. We're not really you know, throwing parties like that, but you know, we're not having gatherings like that. But we're back, you know. I see all the news that the COVID cases are rising again. Um, and we have to be mindful. Nobody wants to wear a mask. I don't either. I thought I was gonna do it for the rest of my life. I don't want to talk. I don't think you do dat. It's not fun, but it's to me, it's just the back and forth and the deciding about winning, where and how long and what you're gonna do. That's where I get confused. Where I'm like, all right, when I'm going in and out of stores. That's a habit, right, So I don't even have to think about that. I put it on right I get on the airplane, absolutely not going bare faced on the airplane. Forget that you're a good they're a good one. I can't believe people, I'm gonna put it on, you know, I'm gonna put it on on that good people's airplane. But if I'm in a restaurant, you know what I'm saying, and there's nobody in there, and I gotta eat anyway, I gotta take it off to eat. It's about when you walk into your seat, when you walk into your seats, right, I keep it on and then I go eat it. But then I'll be thinking to myself where I'm eating it. So that's where I get confused. I'm just being honest, and I'm definitely pro masking. I'm definitely pro vacs. You don't have to get into you know, And nobody got to hit me up on the side. That's what we did. But my point is, as as I'm as we're moving towards like you know, the rest of this, you know, navigating the outside, those are the things that sometimes get me a little frazzled. I won't live. What should I do? You know, like I'm jumping into the jump roupe, Like, think about aerosol and somebody and somebody aerosol in your mouth, and how convenient is it for them the aerosol in your mouth and within six ft that they would then say a thinking, aerosol in your mouth, especially if they're facing you. There you go, that's it. Aerosol in your mouth. Jill's face said, in your mouth. I don't know the type the scientific way to say it. And I'm done. I'm just I'm two weeks over to the COVID, so I'm like, yeah, I'm back to being massed up. And I did two days at the goddamn Roots Picnic and didn't get the motherfucking COVID. I got to say, I must attribute this to colordial silver. I am learning. Shout out to Suzanne Christine who told me that if you spray the coloridial silver in your mouth, you will keep the virus off. So I think it worked at the Roots Picnic. Then I got bougie and comfortable, went to the real cute seats at the Hollywood Bowl for June teenth, and got the goddamn COVID on June teenth and didn't spray the colordial silver. So I'm just saying to the people. I ain't saying it secure, but I think that it may work closingal silver. It's pretty powerful, like rubbing it in um. Yeah for like I heard, sometimes it helps your scars and stuff heal quick, quicker. Good to know, good to know. So yeah, so yeah, I got I got the COVID. I mean luckily, I feel blessed because I'm like, you know, triple boosters. So I just had headaches and chills and fever for a day. But being in South for seven days that ain't cool. That it's not fun, I will have to say. But I will say that, you know, having to kind of get out and experience the world has also been a part of people's self care over being locked up for a couple of years. And I would have to say, of all that this summer that we made up for quite a bit. Okay, okay, can you please tell us when you have done this for summer thus far? Oh? I mean that's I mean work. Y'all know, I'm I'm a traveler, so I don't let the virus stop that. So I've been doing that a little bit. Um. Yeah, I've been. Yeah, because like like Asia said, mask and whatnot? No um, But yeah, I don't know. I think, like I said when I went to the Root speaking, that was the first time going out to an outdoor concert for real, for real, and that felt so good. That felt like a whole reunion of sorts. And yeah, I'm just been. I've been outside. I just don't want stuff ride my bike doing it, you know, I don't think. To be honest, I haven't. The only new thing I did was be around people. And I'm about to go somewhere again. I'm for to travel, even though I'm kind of mad that they met. They lifting these mandates and I'm not liking that. I like going places where they make you get tested before you leave and they're nice, yes, yes, because we kind of want to know. Yeah, and before you get on the plane, we let me see your paper, sir, so that way you know everybody on the plane. We're good for this plane. But I'm gonna still keep my mask on. Yeah I missed that. I'm here for your storage, Jill. I want to know all about the June Look at your face. Your face immediately just went into relaxed and enjoying us. When she said, your June, I love it. Come into it. Okay, friend, I am certain that I had the best trip of my entire life. Jet turned thirteen. That's my son. For anybody who doesn't know, he turned thirteen. And I was like, damn black boys in America, you know, or or around the world except for maybe Africa. Obviously, they don't have a writer passage. You know. If you're Zulu, you know, you go up the mountain. And for anybody who knows what that is, you know what that is where from from what I understand, if you go up the mountain, you go up the mountain and there's men there and they teach you how to do important things that helped to establish your manhood. And by the time you get back to your village, your your young man, and people treat you as such. Right for Jewish boys, you got your brab mitzvah. You have to learn a passage in Hebrew. That's not easy. You know. Um, you have a big old party, everybody celebrates you and brab mitzvahs are a lot of fun. But I was like, what do you do you know, wait till our kids are like sixteen to have a sweet sixteen or fifteen for King Tiniera. Um with some people do. So I decided a couple of years ago I started putting money away. And I know, I know people, UM will hear me say something like that, like I started to put money away, but I need you to understand that I saved for the things that I want to do. Okay, and Um, I compartmentalized money the same way that I compartmentalized my emotions sometimes. So UM, I wanted to do it big and I took I took money out of everything that I earned, and I put it towards this trip for jet. I called it a bro mitzvah I saw that on Blackish once, UM, and I thought that that was really fly. I was like, Okay, a bro mitzvah um. But we didn't want to. I didn't want to do a party because it's been two years. Kids haven't really been hanging out like that. So I'm gonna have a bunch of awkward kids in the space and I'm gonna pay a whole bunch of money to had him look weird at each other. I decided Jed had been talking about Paris for quite some time, so UM, he flew to Paris. Um this was his first time on like in business class. He was just like the chair was so funny that all the buttons, all the but the chair was so fun and I was like, this is about to be dope. Okay, that's when I got excited. I was like, look and then the food came. He looked at this meal like, m this is great. We've been on first class tablecloth on my table. We've we've even flown private, you know before, but this is our first time flying overseas together. Ever. Um. He had a passport when he was seven weeks old, but not not one you know that he could be recognized. So now he's thirteen and he's got this passport with his real So he's like that. I think they have every movie ever was Mom could watch movies, discuss many movies as I want to, just the just I took a video of him when he realized that the chair turned into a bed. He was It was it was like reliving that moment all over again. For for me, I was like, this is great, this is gonna be great. So we arrived in Paris and we just took it really easy. We we stayed at the four Seasons, because I told you I put money aside from the same I say for this. We walked in there, it was flowers everywhere. It was so got during beautiful Jet was he just kept saying, dang, Mom, Wow, my mom almost like yeah, this is He's like, I need to know where the flowers read all the flowers were. We were wow. And all the people were so fancy and they were dressed so sharp. This this one guy walked by and Jet was like, wow, I looked the dude suit was tailored so well and the fabric. Jet was like, damn, mom, that man look nice. I was like, totally look nice. Okay. So we get into our room. It's all frenchy dancy. It's super French French Dan, what does that even mean? I love it? And and yellow with with them rich kinds of like deep fabrics and swear up in this this beautiful room. And we're like, okay, we're retired, so we're taking that anyway. I'm not gonna do this, see because it's so much um. We get out into the world. It's beautiful day. Paris is just is bright and it's it's exciting because the everything is so damn pretty the ark of the streets. You're like, oh, you know the breakfast we ate was like, oh, what was the first breakfast? Wait, give me something I need. I need to breakfast. It was simple. We just had like, um, scrambled on on bread. But French scramble is be different. French scrambled eggs be different. Right there, It's like they just stay there, just right in the pain. I don't know, so solid. Fluffy had to close my eyes and hold on something because the French butter, my friends, the French fotter, the botter. Oh, I said that. I mean, we've had a bunch of moments now. We were walking out. They were sitting in the park, looking at the Eiffel Tower, walking around, you know, the neighborhoods, looking at people's dope b ass houses, do dope bad stuff. You know. I'm a boyer, so I'm all looking in windows like look at you you know, and Jett is right along with me. He's mom, you're gonna get us FRESTI. So we had this conversation about two things because we ended up going to two major cities, and I was like, hey, listen, you know we were looking at the TikTok's and stuff. He's sending these things and he's like, we went to Paris and we went to amstam Um and he was like, mom Um, we have to be really mindful of pick pockets and in the real, you know, towards the Area's okay. So we've we've we've been talking about this a lot, like if I have to go on my purse, I'm gonna need you to be like a mirror cat and look in every direction. He was like, what's a meer cat? I was like, boy, so he had to look up a mercat find out what that was. See, first of all, you haven't you've seen a lion king? Yes, thank you? Hi. So a mirror cat is to move to Mona and Pombo Tomona is Americat and Pumba is uh is a ward holding Okay, I knew that part. Okay, thank you? And mere cats are you pot of the sand? And they look here and we're looking out for each other. We put the little bands on our phone so we can have our phones around our risks because we've heard that people will run by, snatch your phone and keep going. So we're trying to be mindful of all of these things and have a really good time. And and um, Jack became like my little Hey, I'm saying that he became he's taller than me now, but he became like my protector. And when he had an inkling that something was wrong, I said, We're going to follow these things wholeheartedly, no matter where we go. If we feel like it's time to go, if you feel that deep in your spirit and you you just want to leave, we leave in It's not a discussion. It's not a discussion. If I tell you Jack, walk to me, slowly, walk to me slowly. Don't belook mom when what you're talking plug, I don't want to hear all that. It's important, Yeah, travel, etiquette, safety. We're gonna do this because it's you and me and nobody else in the world right now. Like we don't know anybody. We don't we don't have any friends in Paris, we don't you know, so all right, and we've seen taken exactly. Listen, I'm just saying, and Auntie Agent does not have a certain set of skills. Okay, I know somebody that know somebody. I know somebody that knows somebody that do though, So we go to the Eiffel Tower. That was dope. We went at midnight so we could see it light up, you know, and it was it was lovely. It just was lovely. And we also saw a very big rat and we were like wow. I was like, yeah, this city, homie, don't forget damn big like a raccoon, like New York, like path New York. But you know, it's it's a big city. It's like you said, you gotta can you take the romance saying the you know, the practicality. So it was Shawn de Liz all of that. And then we went to the Louver and this was this was a moment for me. Um. First of all, the Louves is gigantic. It is the premier art gallery of the world. And h first things first, we went straight to Egypt. So we go there and Jet says, well, you know if if if you dig up somebody's grave, they call it great Robin right, and then like it really wrong and that I said, that's my said. This trip is about this is this, This trip is about hearing him out and him opening his mind and seeing things and tasting things and scovering that the world is just amazing and huge. She better kill Monger that joint. You better kill Manger that joint. Listen. I told you one time we was in the museum. I was a museum with the twins one time, and they had like a room where there was a mummy and lot of was just like, yeah, well it's gonna be a note for that. She was like, so she said, we didn't disturbed that person's spirit and the rest, and we're not going. She was like an old black lady. She was like, oh no, no, no, no, we need to get up out of here. We can't go in there. I was like okay, and I said okay, so we left and then we went and we saw the Victorian design and and all the rich fabrics and all of that stuff. That was really cool. And then we went to see Mona Lisa and um, you know, we took a picture in front of that thing and he was just like, I was like, that's what I said. He was like, it's really a man. It's really a man kind of moment. Yeah, that is so interesting. That is so interesting because twenty years twenty one years before when I first started traveling a bit, I'm gone to this Synegalese restaurant, called lave Lodge on lov Loge, and I was like, I want, I wonder if they're still open on them They were still open, same place and everything. He went and had a wonderful synecalese meal. Um. It was awesome and it was just painting of a lion and a cub and I was like getting on emotional. I was like, look sign you know, was shaking. I know, look they don't be knowing, but you're gonna heart be heard, just be going all of this. He and you know, he he had radituti and you know, he closed his eyes and he was like, my god, my god. I looked and I was like, he said those words such an old man child like he is. I just yeah, my god. I was like, okay, it was so delicious. I had no idea what where the tweet was. I saw the movie. I don't know what it is. I'm not gonna lie and squash. It's vegetables and they some kind of sauce and I don't know who prepared it, but they put angel dust in that thing, some kind of fairy juice, and it was so tender and delicious. I was like, Okay, I ain't no girl more real talk after the break. We love parents. Okay, all right, so let's get to the to the other part of this trip. We leave Paris and we had to South Acria. I forgot about that part. We get to South Africa, told him, I said, hey, let's and this was this was a track. Okay. How long a trip is are? Well, from Paris to South Africa it was about ten or eleven hours, not too bad. But this is new for him. He's never flown this long before the e t A was broken. So he was like, I know, I slept for eight hours, Mom, I know I did. How is it still for How is it all this time left? And I was like, it's not right, okay, just relaxed and you got a little bit time left. Um. Again, the flight was great, um, the whole deceeding and all the other stuff. He loved it and thought it was so dope. He kept looking at me like, damn girl. You know, he kept giving me the damn girl, look that thing good. Anyway, we go from South Africa and we take a little flight to my womb um that's in Botswana. So thus far he's gotten three stamps on his passport, one to Paris, one to South Africa and one to Botswana. So we're back where I was pregnant with Oh god, I know, I just was watching most of the and the arrangements you must have made based on your knowledge of that area, like so being able to go back and having it not be a new experience for years so that you could be the we discovered things together. So I'm gonna say that I went to Paris. We went to Paris first because he really wanted to go to Paris. He wanted to see what he was in before. And I think that we had a great meandering of streets and walk of thinnes. We definitely had some walk up thinnes. You know. He gotta those ceilings. Friends, if you have not been to the Louver and in Paris, that that art museum, the the detail, even the wood on the floors, the ceilings, the your camera will never quite do justice. It gives a good idea what you saw, but it it doesn't really give you the dimensions of things. And he also had an opportunity to see that the moors were present around Jesus consistently in those um in those paintings. I was like, you know, pointing out the moors pointing out the brown skin you know, all over the place. Um, it's particularly you know in Greek uh in some of the Greek are we saw a lot of brown people. That's not an accident, that's not time, that's not discoloration. I was like, wow, okay, they get Jesus color right now. Those photos, those those images are in thebantment the Vatican advising. Okay, the afrol downstairs, but the press out is upstairs. I got you, I got you. So now we're in my own and then we take a helicopter. Yep, we took a helicopter to the Okavanga Delta. It's the jungle of Buzana. We're going on. Oh, I can't wait to still a land. I can't wait till re endopt coming because man, we went to see what Man did with all of this amazing architecture and this beautiful artwork and these the sculptures and all of this stuff. Making hair of blow with stone like that was really truly beautiful. A can you spell that? Because we could we want to look. As you're talking, I'm sorry spell that for me. It's really what it sounds like. Okay, v a delta Okay, Oh thank you or they or they all say Okavango. I think American says Okavango. But it's okay, yeah, I'm about to go on this tour with you. As you're talking, you didn't know that, but I'm here for this. Just like people say Botswana, but it's really Botswana. It really is. When you we know that Asian and I now we're we're aware now, but you we did not know prior to the j dot Il podcast Botswana, Zambia, mozab no uh Mozambi and Botswana, so let us speak about our mother land. That's when I learn into all of the African countries and that song right there. I'm in the helicopter with Jet and we're watching the earth change. It went from my womb and it's it feels kind of uh, it feels like a beach town, but there's no beach and we're flying over and and all of a sudden there's absolutely nothing for as far as yay I can see. And he just understands how big Botswana is, and then how big the Okavanga Delta is. So we we flew for an hour on the helicopter too U with all of a sudden there was water, and you can see crocodiles doing what crocodiles, dude. You can see um impala and key do and elephants and zebra and and everything's right below us. And jet I could you know, I'm kind of you know, looking at the corner of my eye to see what he's doing. And he's just got his mouth open like this is real. Said, I'm gonna take you to Lion King, okay, and that's where we're going. So we get we layd there and they have a van a truck waiting for us. You know, you've seen them on TV, the Safari trucks. So we we get in. Of course they're going to offer us beverages because when I tell you, when you go on Safari, the one thing that they're going to do two things for sure. Um, they're definitely going to feed you like crazy. I want to know what that is? Do I want to eat a have Beth? And you're going to go on Safari at least three times a day because it's it's literally never the same show twice. I mean I see that. Okay, So walk us through these things. You know, I need to know what the food isn't need to know what, the different things. So what y'all eat in the in the safari, Yeah, what y'all eat? Let's do that first, the I guess lounge, if you will. Everything is on is on a platform, so we're not on the ground. The tents because we stayed in the tent. The tents that we're in are not on the ground. Everything is it's like a bridge. Right, we're high up, um, not too high, UM, maybe about a good ten feet off the ground. Um. Right. So that's all like really pretty. Everything is just really well done. And it's what you imagine with the white curtains and the um. It doesn't have heat, it doesn't have air condition. UM. At night it gets very very cool, depending on the time that you go. But they put what they call bush babies in your in your bed um and and bush babies are um hot water bottles that are covered in something fuzzy and it keeps your bed nice and warm. So every night there's bush babies in your bed, and it's so happy to have them because this brick' is really really cold in the desert at night. But the dag on foods, you know, I'm here with it. The lady comes out and when I tell you everybody so pretty, like they're just pretty. Mm hmm, yeah, that's that was one of Jet's first observations. Here's like, mom, everybody's just so pretty. I said, this is crazy, right, just crazy. All different kinds of faces. Um, some some with really big guys, some with slanting to the eye, some some really fair skinned, some some wide no some big lips, some one big lip, one small lip, some freckles, some molls. You know, this is people, people coming, all different shapes and sizes, but that there's something else that is attached to these folks. It's like a light within that is just you can't ignore it. So to the pretty lady comes out and I can't remember her name, it was it was like four sillables forgive me. And she comes out and she says, today I have prepared for you and tacho, I'm soup with fresh crime and a spartacles and and then she goes on and we're like just amazed, just like looking like, oh, whatever you say, you know, we're gonna eat it. Why was it even better than Paris? Of course because way better, like way better. Of course. The seasons there is just incredible, and they feed you breakfast, lunch, dinner, and high tea. What do they eat breakfast? They typically have like an English breakfast, which is some big beans, eggs, sausage. Um. They had beef sausages. They had chicken sausage. I was like, thank you so much, um. And I don't recall eating like fresh muffins and things like that. Um. But they made omelets. They made The thing that Jet loved the most was porridge. He loved porridge. Just ate it slow and looked at the O and he was like, this is crazy porridge. He loved porridge. Okay, so we go out on so far, and you know, I'm a little nervous because now I'm second guessing myself. Did I just bring my cup out here to get aped by something? Because you do have to sign a waiver saying that if you happen to die, it's nothing fault that you fully knew that you were coming to an area where they are wild and moneymus They make sure that you know as much as possible. How you know, they take every precaution, every procution to make sure that you're safe, and you have to follow the dog on rules. Don't go off the damned bridge and decide you're gonna take a walk. You're not safe, dummy, you know, but that that boy could kill you. Mind you, they're bones outside of our road and they are were just sitting on the deck and just watched them play, and the baboons and the zebra and the impala and the kid. They're all together because you know, they're not out here eat meat. They're just chilling, just chilling. It's so much to say. We saw a a leopard. They had killed a zebra and had a piece of the legs up on the tree. And she just looks she looks so satisfied. She looks so satisfied. Her legs were gapped over. And I said, wow, our guy, his name is Kombungle. We also Delta, Delta just he wanted to make sure I told him why we were there, and he really made sure to to educate gent and to um to go as close as possible. We were so close to lions. I just was like I prayed the whole time. Um. We also had a flat tire while we were in the tall brush, tall bush. It was during the day, but that means nothing. Uh. And the lions. The lions are the exact same color as the bush and Um, I stood up and Jet was like, what are you doing? And I said, I'm looking like a mere cat and he was like, here you go with this mere cat. I was like, I'm watching because all I could think of was if a lion happens to come out and God for big kill, come bungle. Um, the wheel is off, and even if I could drive this truck, I don't know where to go. We started an hour ago, an hour in every direction, you still have not reached them. The delta is so big. We saw hippopotamus, we saw ostrich, we saw baby ones, we saw leopard, we saw lion, We saw so many. We saw eagles, white eagles. I didn't know they existed. We saw my favorite animals, the key do. We saw loads of them with their pretty selves, whatever kind of mixture they are. We saw jackals, we saw oh boy, um, we saw it all, and we saw it morning, noon, tonight. Because the show is never the same, like the animals are always doing something. They're living. Okay, So this is my first example. Oh god, oh my god, a freedom. This is what freedom looks like. This is there's no confines here. This is what freedom it's like. You're able to do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want, for as long as you want. Period. Okay, So UM at night that the sky turns read sometimes it's purple, sometimes it's it's it's the orange. Like we can't fath the way that the moon shines and the way that the pictures do no justice. There's no camera I think that could capture what these these colors really look like. So we spent four days there with them. Then we took a helicopter to um the Calajadi desert. Wow, at this point, can I just ask an American question, Jill? At this point, how are you guys avoiding the bites, the bug bites these things? Are you still buck bite free? Because y'all was standing, it's also fabric all around you to make sure that you're that you don't get bitten. They have the spray called boom in the room. UM, so you can spray boom just in case if you you know, you feel away. But I make it a point to go um if and when UM I traveled to Botswana, I'm not going in there summer. I go in the winter. So and that's June and July are the best times to travel to me and and at winter that the weather it's still what in June July and what is the it's res snably warm during the day, but it's a different sun there. It's a whole different sun there. Okay, so warm is you know, eighties, upper eighties, um during the day and at night somewhere in the twenties we slept in sweatsuits and um, fuzzy socks. Well yeah, I mean I heard that the desert can't get really cold, but I didn't think get that cold. Not that cold, and that less it's the bugs because they don't be around in the cold, that's true. So at least you know when you're sleeping, they ain't gonna get you sleep. So that experienced. They laid out the carpet and then then there was one moment when they wanted to tell me how they felt. And I didn't see it coming, and it was very emotional. They were just talking about UM, my time there as modern most way and UM in front of Jet, which was really awesome. You know that I had introduced Patuana to so many to the world. That was very emotional and they were like, we love you, and they told Jet, um, you hear about these stories when when somebody says, you're in Africa, welcome home. But they were like, Jet, you were, you were created here, you were you were created here, Welcome home. They knew that. Wow, you know, and I was three three weeks pregnant when I when I got there, and I know they wanted to give you all the advice and all of the things. So yeah, I'm sure they were heavily invested. I mean, that's just so beautiful. That's so beautiful. It's still bugging me out how how beautiful it all was. So I'm gonna try to make it brief because I've been talking my head off. No, this is good because he is going to this is going he's going to open up bits and pieces of this gift over the years. You know what I'm saying. It's going to continue to kind of gift him forward. And it's it's good for people to hear it because because you're also creating like goals for people in a way I never thought about doing that. Okay, like Jill did, I'm gonna have to say my ducks because that sounds really cool, right, If that's that's the cool, You're giving people a very real kind of you know, just this moment where they can say I can come up with the thing and create it and then follow through and that these are all the elements to what it would look like and feel like. And then and it goes with with whatever budget you have that if we can't if we're not doing the big party, you know, if if we're not doing the walk with all the men, you know, and they take the boy away for you know, a week's time or whatever the case, if we're not doing those things and we have to do something to acknowledge, you know, that they're going into their manhood and that they're going into their womanhood as well. Like these things are super valuable, you know, I think. Anyway, so we're in the Calcadi. This is the most luxurious ship. Honestly, I've ever seen this tent. The tent is a mansion, baby, Okay. The fabrication of the tent is rich. That there's there's um Persian rugs all over, Moroccan rugs all over the floors, the sculptures, the mahogany beds. We both have four poor post mahogany beds. Um The bathroom has a as a shase lounge in it made with out of yellow velvet. The toilet is an absolute throne of mahogany. Like, you gotta be kidding me. Look, we had our private pool or punge pool, and we had an outdoor shower and the outdoor toilet and they were separate from each other just in case you felt like taking the poop and in the bush. We went on safari twice a day because we were like, we're a little bit We took naps in between. So we got up in five th had an amazing breakfast every day. Um. We went out, saw all the things. Um, and the desert is different. So we're now we're looking at we're looking at we're looking at the sky, we're looking at the animals. Of course, we ended up bumping into a very large lion. Like okay, I understand what a bump. We just happened to turn the corner. He was there in the car. We had a cage around. There's no cage around the car. So he saw us, we saw him, and then we just sat quietly and he did. He was like oh and went on about his business doing what he was doing. Because he's free and living without fear. There's nobody there to shoot him or hunt him or kill him. So he was like, oh, there's one of these things, and he's not hungry. So because and we're also not exactly on the menu, um, but there is. I've heard many times, um that people get killed insafari because they don't follow the rules. They get out the van, they get out the Safari jep, they go and want to take a picture with the lion. Like it's freaking simple and I and I can guarantee you they ain't got this brown on their arms. I can guarantee you those people, girl listen because what what what we're gonna do is follow the rules. Okay when it comes with the life and death. Just what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be right back. We're we're in the Kalakadi. They're serving meals that are so beautiful. Give us wine, come on jail, give us. They said, we've have we have fried chicken and a lintile selat. And I was like, okay, I don't know what to expect this chicken. I don't know. They fried the chicken. It was so light and crispy, um, and it was just the moistest pieces of chicken. I need to take a picture of like face. I'm sorry, I got lost. Don't nobody talk about food like Jill. You know that it'd be like close your eyes, y'all. Just the salad was cold and the chicken was hot. And they have something called Pelly Pilly. She said. The salad was going and the thicket was like it was a surprise. I'm sorry. The both of y'all's eyes is closed, and y'all look like y'all two seconds away from a whole moment. But it's fine, Philly pill popo. Whatever. It's an oil. It's an oil with all these peppers in it. It's like a binical oil with a lot of peppers. And you just marinated and I poured that hot. It was. It was hot, but it was like the righteous hot. It wasn't It was hot, and you with a hint of sweet at the end, not burning. It was sweet at the end. I was like, oh, friend, Pelly Pilly popo and everything. I couldn't stop yourself. Sometimes I just did a piece of bread and put some somebody give me something to stop to except with. Please, somebody got a little piece of bread please so so so so so so so so so so that was the meal for me. I ate it all and I watched the seat with Jim. He ate it all, and we just looked at each other like, this is what's happening. Can okay, wait, wait, you talked about the food, but can you just tell us did you have any cocktails? Did you have any? Every day? Every day? They serve your dreams all day long. And I never knew how good a Gin and Tonic was. I was never a Gin Tonic girl. Now I am. That is the perfect summertime refreshing. Just a little hint to get your tipsy, just a little. I love a Gin and Tonic. Now I'm in with a splash of lemon. I'm in lemon on line, okay, lemon on live. And if I can get Botswana gin, that's what that's really amazing. Alright, alright, so we go for a walk with the bushman. They're called by saddle. They look like Asian folks. They look like Asian folks, but they're really brown. And then they're the titties is out, okay, and I just need to bush men though, right, it's bushmen and women. You know how you know how the patriarch is. Of course, we don't get a word. Don't get a word, right, we don't get a full word. But there are women and of all eight is um and you know, titties out and and beautiful necklaces like string beads are all over their bodies and um. They have very short hair that looks just like the earth I swear does like from a distance in the helicopter, when you look down on the earth, it's the exact same texture. Like, come on, and they take us for a walk. They speak, there are a hundred thousand of them left. This is it. This is it because the world is coming and that the kids want to experience other things, you know, and there's very few, you know, a hundred thousand left that really want to. I guess hold on to that. But they're trying. They're trying. So they take us out for this walk and they're they're all of a sudden, you know, they're digging, and they're telling us about all the herbs and all the stuff. You get this take this dug a hole and found some big thing and they were like boil this is for pains. And I was like, damn, I wish I could take this whatever this thing is with me, right, you did ship not to cell, bring foil. And they find a scorpion, right, this big scorpion they dug out the ground and now they're playing with it. And I was like, you know, I'm allergic to beast things, so now you know. But they're they're telling us they didn't really, they didn't really speak English. We had a translator who had to live with them in order to learn how to speak the language. Because people who speak Paddy, people who speaks Zulu Pulsa, I don't know how to say that. Right, whatever the languages, this is not that. This is old, old, old, old, okay. And it takes a lot of time, and you have to live you have to be completely immersed in it in order to to to learn it. And even still our guide spoke six or seven languages, but he said he lived with them and still struggles. He said, I can hear, but I can't speak as well as I wish I could. I was like, damn, okay. So they play with the scorpion. The guy this this, the bushman puts the scorpion in his mouth. I'm never I'm bugged out. I'm bugged out. He was like, there, there are friends, there are toys. We play with them, and they dog another whole put their dude away and buried him. And I was like, it's scorpions in this damn doesn't really big facteth us underneath us. So now Jet and I'm looking everywhere because we are a little bit skinned. Now you're not going back to merecat status. You know, have thorns in our socks and trying to act like everything is cool because their barefoot. Why aren't they stopping to take thorns out of their socks because it hurts? How you got you got shoes on the right. Yeah, but there's there. These thorns are coming up under the under the pants or something I don't know, and getting stuck like a tiny mean needle, like a mean little needle. Well, this is the reality also of nature and being outside and you know, different terrain. We struggled with that one because every few steps it was a new mean needle. And when we didn't want to we didn't want to play ourselves like you y'all don't have no shoes on, how are you not getting stuck by me needles? I was like, yeah, So they made fire out of jackal dung. How you make fire to do too, I don't know, but what we watched it, we were amazed. We were amazed. I mean I've never even seen the jack They may fire, I mean out of the jack dumb Wow. Okay, there's a gas or something that comes off a pool. They mashed it up and it was like soft because there's like like like hey, it turns into kind of like hey, so you know, enough friction it became fire. We were like damn happy too. And it's crazy. The pictures that we took with the with the bushmen that came out black, all of them, and that crazy. You feel like something's weren't meant to be seen or you can't see their faces. And the pictures in between are there, but the pictures directly with them standing next to them are black. And we were like, oh, in that dope. They bring us our our lunch outside. It's so it's so jazzy, it's so special, it's so extra okay, all the things. And then we take a TVs into the self. A TVs are those four wheels vehicles. The salt flats are as big as Switzerland. It's where your water used to be. But no more right, and so it's like it's like white on the ground with the big cracks. Yes, and we went directly into the salt flats. Beautiful on the a t v s. We sped like crazy. Um. The guy was like a valet. He was like, you want to go fast? St Ja was like yes because he's driving himself for the first time. And that was dope, ast ship. Um we get out, we get way out there. We drove for like an hour into the salt flats. That's what I'm saying. That's how big it is, Okay, And then we get off and he says, um, find an area by yourself. And I noticed that as I'm walking, there's really no sound out there. There's no sound. Yeah, I felt like that, boll. It's not the same, but like out in the desert when you go to like Arizona and stuff like that, Like you get out to a certain point and it's like standing in like a studio or something like, it's like flat, no sound. It was deep and I honestly started to feel a little fear because I'm not accustomed to not hearing any sounds. But I was safe. I know I was safe because we're an hour away from any trees or vegetation. Animals are not walking out there, they'll die, they know better. There's nothing growing out there. So he says, all right, now, lay down, and we're in three different places, and um, he says, enjoy the sunset. And the sky turned peach and then it turned blue and then and then all of a sudden, there were stars just popping up. And I think, you know, obviously we've all seen starts before, but they turned colors. They were green and red and yellow. I've never seen a rainbow of stars before. And then they were shooting stars in between, not one, not twelve, not fifty, just so, so, so many. And he says, all right, now after and now I realized that we have to ride back. Yeah, there's there's lights on the a t v s, but we also have to ride through the bush on these a t vs. The driver, I mean the guide Valet shout out to Vallet. He's in the front, jets in the middle, and I've decided to take the back because I think I'm gonna protect him. And I got his back. I said, my god, what am I gonna do something? Decided to jump on my chat which direction to do? Out, what does something jump on me? And Jett is gunning it. He's gunning it hard. Just I got a gun it too, But also not get in his dust, because if I'm in his dust, I can't see, you know. And we're just out here in the middle of all of this, you know. And I figured, Okay, maybe the noise will distract and they won't want to, you know, funk with us. But I was scared. I was very, very scared. But we arrived back at our jeep and then we rode on to camp and had a wonderful meal, met people from all over the world. Most of them were Americans, which was really surprising. And then we left. Were out there any chips out there? Any chips? Any American chips out there? No? But I want you to go. I know you do. We're gonna be working on it, just to see that. See what. So the first part of the trip was so Jack to see what man can do in Paris with the architecture and all art. And this next part is for him to see what God does and what God can do. We couldn't capture, so what the stars did. We only could look at it with our eyes and be humbled. By it. Magnificence, like the true definition of creativity. Nothing better than this, nothing from the animals, to the trees, to the all of the things. Okay, so we leave this wonderful experience just floating. We've learned so much. We'll be back after the break. Now we're on our way to Amsterdam, and we get to one of my favorite cities in the world, and we kicked it. We walked the dogs, we ate the waffles. We we went to Fabricue de Luminesque, a light museum, and that was freaking phenomenal because the light it was uh what's his name, Gustaf Clement his artwork, which was very, very colorful. They had it everywhere. It just became all around you. They have a black warehouse and they created these freaking dope ass lights and the art was all over you, everywhere you look. It was amazing. We must have stayed in there for at least an hour, like it was fresh. You can rid your bike everywhere, and we took a canal. He I wanted to Heineken because Heineken is better overseas. I gotta Heineken And I was like, you want a beer, and he was like, mom, Mom, I'm not, I'm a child. I'm I said, okay, and the guy says, well, I mean we have Haneken zero. I said, what was Heineken zero? He was like, just no alcohol in it? And I was like, you gotta. He was like I do. So we enjoyed a beer together and we did that multiple times, his Heineken zero and my heine again, and we you know, chatting it up and enjoying ourselves. We sat on park benches. He's like, mom, I don't think or or a little cafe tables. He was like, mom, I don't think we could sit here. Um, where's the restaurant? I said, exactly, their seats here because people need to sit. There's uh lollipops here because people get drying out there. It's like, you know what I'm saying, Like, there's it's a conscious consideration of what people want in this place. So we got a chance to experience three different kinds of creativity and freedom, which is hopefully, you know, the goal to inspire. He bought some dope ship. I gave him a budget. I watched he found his style between Paris and Amsterdam. Oh yeah, for sure, he found his thing. He was like this is apparently Hugo Bosses is where the boy lives. I was like, oh, I said, you know what this means, right, you know what this means? He was like, what is it? Good job? You got that good? Good? Good. We go into stories. He's like, oh those sneak his mom no steaks fresh and oh man, oh man. I just looked at the fray and I was like, oh, look at your taste. It was like, were you looking at You're gonna be taking care of mama. Okay, good? I like it, you know, so we we did all of those things. He had a burger in a place, Oh my god, cannibal royal. I think that's what it was called Royal Cannibal. They made a veggie burger for that child. I watched my son have his first food orgasm, and I loved it. He did. He absolutely lost himself. He didn't speak for he kept looking at it and shaking his head. He rolled his eyes back, he closed his eyes, he looked at it again. He bit it slow. I said, this is that's it. That's what I'm looking and he is his mother's child. That is truly. We're establishing your taste as well. Okay. I see how you get there. So yeah, and when the answer them. We also went to the Torture Museum and all of this understanding when you take these trips, that this is really about the education of our kids, you know what I mean. You want to broaden their horizons and help them understand. So we got in there and when I tell you the medieval ship that was going on the time it took to create some of that maniacal, vicious, brutal ship, Jet says, wow, so it's always been like that. But that's what I was just thinking. The minds, the way these minds work. They had a piece of wood, piece of wood, a big triangle, right, This was the one that that got me. I think that all of them were crazy and way too freaking much, but this thing was a big triangle. And what they do is they put the triangle way up and you gotta get on the ladder to get up on the triangle. Then they sit your raw neckd ass on the triangle and add weights to your arms and your feet. Oh so it just hurts on your ass like you're just just digging into your ass, like slowly, slowly. These others are so creative with your torture. Wow, we saw oh they cutting titties off. They was all kinds of crazy, extra brutal, and the museum was only, you know, maybe about thirty minute visit. But we walked out of there like, damn. Your shout outs to Jill because into all the people listening, y'all gotta understand, Jill just broke down Amsterdam heavily without using the word cannabis or red light district. And that is truly beautiful because there is so much more, because it's so much more to these cities. You didn't even say tulips or tulips. So look they had on June teenth, because we were there for June Team on juneteenth um, they had DJ's on every block. So in the areas where people were eating and shopping, there were DJs. Now we took it as it was June Teeth for us, like this was will know why y'all doing this, but this is June Teeth. They played Biggie and my son and I blacked out dancing in the streets, dancing in the street. It was so fun and so what again, free can I remind people as they as people listen to your story, I want to also remind people that, you know, not for nothing, most of us have a friend or some type of family member that works for the airline, and most of us tend to use those advantages that we take to go to like Miami or California, where I like to remind people that if you got access to some type of flying privileges, you need to use those internationally. Use some of this stuff that Jill is saying. Using internationally, it's cheaper, it's cheaper, it gives you more of a discount. I just want to remind people of that. People who think they can't. Everybody knows somebody to work for the airline. Think about it. I've been traveling for forty something years and I use my mama's flight attended privileges. But I'm just saying it's a blessing, and I just think it's closer than people think it is. It's always yeah, I mean, you can you can accumulate miles in a bunch of different ways these days, and also to like even through your credit cards to all kinds of different things. But you know, but and also to like, there's a bunch of different travel hacks and a bunch of different um websites and Instagram and TikTok pages around being black and traveling solo and traveling with kids. You know. Um there's a blog called the Traveling Child. I believe it's called there's a black woman who travels with her young daughters all the time and they've been everywhere together. Travel Noir, which is another good one, and so just just like a lot of different you know. So it's ways to travel and make it more affordable, and travel with kids. You know, I have six kids. Even I wish they would give you all your own plane sometimes, but that's fine. I'm here. I'm here for it. I mean, it's it's a thing. In restaurant Cannonball Royal, they played hip hop, they played hip hop and Dutch and they got veggie burgers and it's called Cannaball. I love that. I got a chicken sandwich and they put a chicken wing on on it, on top of it, and I was like, why why have you that? Just what made you do that? I don't know who's back there and whatever that mustard is, fuck you, fuck you for that mustard. Fuck you, but that mustard. I wanted to I wanted to lay down in it. I wanted to lick it off of someone I love deeply, and now I want to look at on somebody I love dearly. Ms. I'm like, that's that's that should be the caliber of sauce you should have or anything from now War. Yeah, that's the standard. It's definitely the standard. That's the standard of sauces from now War. Oh what a wonderful time you got, Like food, culture, art, nature, it's all these really beautiful things that I kind of incorporated and then so much more. Like I said, we need to probably unfold over time all the things, you know what I mean, what it's gonna take me and take me some time to do that, but we're gonna, you know what, We're gonna end this podcast today because um, you know, it's been kind of long and we're just talking about this one thing so much. You feel long because you've been talking, but it's been great. Please take your time and unwrap these thoughts that our children deserve to have some kind of right of passage into their maturation. We are their parents, We are the aunts and uncles were their grandparents. Um, and it this was what I chose to do with the means that I had. But it's it's fair to say that, UM, our kids deserve to have something really really special around this time. And guess what you can do it. You can do it. You can do it, um, just figure out how you want to do it. If that means a lake house that Airbnb for a week with family and friends, or just all your kids friends, UM, that's dope. If it means a trip to New York City, you know, all lights and and all the fast pace and energy. If that's what it means to that Broadway show, take your kids to it. Bro. So, thank you so much for listening to j Elga podcast, and we're going to continue this conversation. How do you eight an elephant? One by its Hello listeners, It's Amber the producer here. I have a two year old son, and after listening to this, I'm starting a travel fund. Like now, speaking of travel funds, you do not have to be rich to see the world, just intentional. I'm going to share with you in an article from nerd Wallet that outlines a couple of the best apps for saving money. I personally use capital to build my little travel fund and I love it. I'm saving and I don't even realize it. It allows you to create rules around your spending habits. For example, like if I get a coffee, it'll automatically put two dollars into my savings. I'll also drop in links to some of the incredible places Jill visited on her trip. I hope we all get to see a zebra soon. Hi. If you have comments on something we said in this episode, call eight six six. Hey Jill, if you want to add to this conversation, that's eight six six nine five four five five. Don't forget to tell us your name and the episode you're referring to. You might just hear your message on a future episode. Thank you for listening to Jill Scott Presents Jay dot Il. The podcast JA dot Ill is a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcast from I Heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's Amber the producer here. I just want to give a quick disclaimer before we jump into the show. And this episode, the ladies make reference to some of their personal health choices related to COVID nineteen. Who wants you to know? The jed i il Podcast would like to clarify that we are not authorized to give any medical advice or recommendations. Any of our opinions are our own and not a reflection of the views of our Heart Media. Welcome to j dot ill a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome, Welcome back to j dot il podcast. It's been a whole minute, not too long, but it's funny long, you know. Um. Welcome back to ja dot ilbo podcast. I'm sitting here with my sister friends li Yah Saint Claire allowed one. My bad. It's sound so lady like, it sounds genteel. It's like I don't know what to do. I've got the wrong silver. Well, well you need to call li st Clair. She didn't tells you what to do. Oh what, I love it? You a whole character, honey and al grad that soon that would be jis what is she? The name? Her name? Do her name? My name sound like somebody's third grade teacher. It's the dam graden Daniel Dunzler sounds like I've run a nonprofit. I can definitely, you don't have to talk about what Jill Scott sound like. That's that's it. My mother made sure I got a job. She was like, she said, they ain't gonna know, They're not not gonna know till you show up, baby girl, until she put that exclamation point on it. Then it was like, well, wait a minute, who's that hold up? Now? It's not like somebody drunk. That's what it sounds like. Yo. You know how many people thinks of the show putting exclamation points on their baby's names. I'm just gonna tell you it's happening. It's happening. Listen. I want to put nothing past. Like I told you, there's a brother on the TikTok that talks about African Americans and linguistics and our language, which which is affectionately called now a a V which is African American vernacular English. The language, the language, Oh, the words, it's a thing. I think it's been a lot of new language and words while we've been inside. I don't know if it's just me like, what, like what covid E? Girl, Like what you just said? A A B E T T A V E. I feel like since COVID, did we get a couple more letters for the l B G t Q community. Plus? Yeah, you just go plus, you just go. Well, I noticed that the plus is there now that I didn't know about that before. But I don't think because we just found out it was it hasn't been there for a long time. Oh yeah, well they and they ended up adding some more eyes and aids, and so when you start doubling up on letters, you might as well just throw that plus up in there. Not to confuse the layman or the cis, all the cysts, all the cists heteros out here, right. But then also to one of my children, was like putting me down that there's not as multiple flags. Too good. God, hey, now it should be UTI flags as well. All right, that makes sense, listen. I know it confuses everybody else, but I enjoy it. I like people see. One of one of the quandsa principles is name yourself, define yourself for yourself. And so I feel as if if you are defining yourself for yourself, I am your cheerleader. I live with you in them, so yes, I'm with you. Listen, y'all. We we had a we had a we had a sub one. I know it's um, it's kind of early in the game, Um far as summer is concerned. UM, but we really did have quite the summer. This is the first time that the three of us have really and truly been outside outside. But for you too, you haven't been going anywhere. Everybody's been staying close to home. You know, we're we're being mindful. We're not really you know, throwing parties like that, but you know, we're not having gatherings like that. But we're back, you know. I see all the news that the COVID cases are rising again. Um, and we have to be mindful. Nobody wants to wear a mask. I don't either. I thought I was gonna do it for the rest of my life. I don't want to talk. I don't think you do dat. It's not fun, but it's to me, it's just the back and forth and the deciding about winning, where and how long and what you're gonna do. That's where I get confused. Where I'm like, all right, when I'm going in and out of stores. That's a habit, right, So I don't even have to think about that. I put it on right I get on the airplane, absolutely not going bare faced on the airplane. Forget that you're a good they're a good one. I can't believe people, I'm gonna put it on, you know, I'm gonna put it on on that good people's airplane. But if I'm in a restaurant, you know what I'm saying, and there's nobody in there, and I gotta eat anyway, I gotta take it off to eat. It's about when you walk into your seat, when you walk into your seats, right, I keep it on and then I go eat it. But then I'll be thinking to myself where I'm eating it. So that's where I get confused. I'm just being honest, and I'm definitely pro masking. I'm definitely pro vacs. You don't have to get into you know, And nobody got to hit me up on the side. That's what we did. But my point is, as as I'm as we're moving towards like you know, the rest of this, you know, navigating the outside, those are the things that sometimes get me a little frazzled. I won't live. What should I do? You know, like I'm jumping into the jump roupe, Like, think about aerosol and somebody and somebody aerosol in your mouth, and how convenient is it for them the aerosol in your mouth and within six ft that they would then say a thinking, aerosol in your mouth, especially if they're facing you. There you go, that's it. Aerosol in your mouth. Jill's face said, in your mouth. I don't know the type the scientific way to say it. And I'm done. I'm just I'm two weeks over to the COVID, so I'm like, yeah, I'm back to being massed up. And I did two days at the goddamn Roots Picnic and didn't get the motherfucking COVID. I got to say, I must attribute this to colordial silver. I am learning. Shout out to Suzanne Christine who told me that if you spray the coloridial silver in your mouth, you will keep the virus off. So I think it worked at the Roots Picnic. Then I got bougie and comfortable, went to the real cute seats at the Hollywood Bowl for June teenth, and got the goddamn COVID on June teenth and didn't spray the colordial silver. So I'm just saying to the people. I ain't saying it secure, but I think that it may work closingal silver. It's pretty powerful, like rubbing it in um. Yeah for like I heard, sometimes it helps your scars and stuff heal quick, quicker. Good to know, good to know. So yeah, so yeah, I got I got the COVID. I mean luckily, I feel blessed because I'm like, you know, triple boosters. So I just had headaches and chills and fever for a day. But being in South for seven days that ain't cool. That it's not fun, I will have to say. But I will say that, you know, having to kind of get out and experience the world has also been a part of people's self care over being locked up for a couple of years. And I would have to say, of all that this summer that we made up for quite a bit. Okay, okay, can you please tell us when you have done this for summer thus far? Oh? I mean that's I mean work. Y'all know, I'm I'm a traveler, so I don't let the virus stop that. So I've been doing that a little bit. Um. Yeah, I've been. Yeah, because like like Asia said, mask and whatnot? No um, But yeah, I don't know. I think, like I said when I went to the Root speaking, that was the first time going out to an outdoor concert for real, for real, and that felt so good. That felt like a whole reunion of sorts. And yeah, I'm just been. I've been outside. I just don't want stuff ride my bike doing it, you know, I don't think. To be honest, I haven't. The only new thing I did was be around people. And I'm about to go somewhere again. I'm for to travel, even though I'm kind of mad that they met. They lifting these mandates and I'm not liking that. I like going places where they make you get tested before you leave and they're nice, yes, yes, because we kind of want to know. Yeah, and before you get on the plane, we let me see your paper, sir, so that way you know everybody on the plane. We're good for this plane. But I'm gonna still keep my mask on. Yeah I missed that. I'm here for your storage, Jill. I want to know all about the June Look at your face. Your face immediately just went into relaxed and enjoying us. When she said, your June, I love it. Come into it. Okay, friend, I am certain that I had the best trip of my entire life. Jet turned thirteen. That's my son. For anybody who doesn't know, he turned thirteen. And I was like, damn black boys in America, you know, or or around the world except for maybe Africa. Obviously, they don't have a writer passage. You know. If you're Zulu, you know, you go up the mountain. And for anybody who knows what that is, you know what that is where from from what I understand, if you go up the mountain, you go up the mountain and there's men there and they teach you how to do important things that helped to establish your manhood. And by the time you get back to your village, your your young man, and people treat you as such. Right for Jewish boys, you got your brab mitzvah. You have to learn a passage in Hebrew. That's not easy. You know. Um, you have a big old party, everybody celebrates you and brab mitzvahs are a lot of fun. But I was like, what do you do you know, wait till our kids are like sixteen to have a sweet sixteen or fifteen for King Tiniera. Um with some people do. So I decided a couple of years ago I started putting money away. And I know, I know people, UM will hear me say something like that, like I started to put money away, but I need you to understand that I saved for the things that I want to do. Okay, and Um, I compartmentalized money the same way that I compartmentalized my emotions sometimes. So UM, I wanted to do it big and I took I took money out of everything that I earned, and I put it towards this trip for jet. I called it a bro mitzvah I saw that on Blackish once, UM, and I thought that that was really fly. I was like, Okay, a bro mitzvah um. But we didn't want to. I didn't want to do a party because it's been two years. Kids haven't really been hanging out like that. So I'm gonna have a bunch of awkward kids in the space and I'm gonna pay a whole bunch of money to had him look weird at each other. I decided Jed had been talking about Paris for quite some time, so UM, he flew to Paris. Um this was his first time on like in business class. He was just like the chair was so funny that all the buttons, all the but the chair was so fun and I was like, this is about to be dope. Okay, that's when I got excited. I was like, look and then the food came. He looked at this meal like, m this is great. We've been on first class tablecloth on my table. We've we've even flown private, you know before, but this is our first time flying overseas together. Ever. Um. He had a passport when he was seven weeks old, but not not one you know that he could be recognized. So now he's thirteen and he's got this passport with his real So he's like that. I think they have every movie ever was Mom could watch movies, discuss many movies as I want to, just the just I took a video of him when he realized that the chair turned into a bed. He was It was it was like reliving that moment all over again. For for me, I was like, this is great, this is gonna be great. So we arrived in Paris and we just took it really easy. We we stayed at the four Seasons, because I told you I put money aside from the same I say for this. We walked in there, it was flowers everywhere. It was so got during beautiful Jet was he just kept saying, dang, Mom, Wow, my mom almost like yeah, this is He's like, I need to know where the flowers read all the flowers were. We were wow. And all the people were so fancy and they were dressed so sharp. This this one guy walked by and Jet was like, wow, I looked the dude suit was tailored so well and the fabric. Jet was like, damn, mom, that man look nice. I was like, totally look nice. Okay. So we get into our room. It's all frenchy dancy. It's super French French Dan, what does that even mean? I love it? And and yellow with with them rich kinds of like deep fabrics and swear up in this this beautiful room. And we're like, okay, we're retired, so we're taking that anyway. I'm not gonna do this, see because it's so much um. We get out into the world. It's beautiful day. Paris is just is bright and it's it's exciting because the everything is so damn pretty the ark of the streets. You're like, oh, you know the breakfast we ate was like, oh, what was the first breakfast? Wait, give me something I need. I need to breakfast. It was simple. We just had like, um, scrambled on on bread. But French scramble is be different. French scrambled eggs be different. Right there, It's like they just stay there, just right in the pain. I don't know, so solid. Fluffy had to close my eyes and hold on something because the French butter, my friends, the French fotter, the botter. Oh, I said that. I mean, we've had a bunch of moments now. We were walking out. They were sitting in the park, looking at the Eiffel Tower, walking around, you know, the neighborhoods, looking at people's dope b ass houses, do dope bad stuff. You know. I'm a boyer, so I'm all looking in windows like look at you you know, and Jett is right along with me. He's mom, you're gonna get us FRESTI. So we had this conversation about two things because we ended up going to two major cities, and I was like, hey, listen, you know we were looking at the TikTok's and stuff. He's sending these things and he's like, we went to Paris and we went to amstam Um and he was like, mom Um, we have to be really mindful of pick pockets and in the real, you know, towards the Area's okay. So we've we've we've been talking about this a lot, like if I have to go on my purse, I'm gonna need you to be like a mirror cat and look in every direction. He was like, what's a meer cat? I was like, boy, so he had to look up a mercat find out what that was. See, first of all, you haven't you've seen a lion king? Yes, thank you? Hi. So a mirror cat is to move to Mona and Pombo Tomona is Americat and Pumba is uh is a ward holding Okay, I knew that part. Okay, thank you? And mere cats are you pot of the sand? And they look here and we're looking out for each other. We put the little bands on our phone so we can have our phones around our risks because we've heard that people will run by, snatch your phone and keep going. So we're trying to be mindful of all of these things and have a really good time. And and um, Jack became like my little Hey, I'm saying that he became he's taller than me now, but he became like my protector. And when he had an inkling that something was wrong, I said, We're going to follow these things wholeheartedly, no matter where we go. If we feel like it's time to go, if you feel that deep in your spirit and you you just want to leave, we leave in It's not a discussion. It's not a discussion. If I tell you Jack, walk to me, slowly, walk to me slowly. Don't belook mom when what you're talking plug, I don't want to hear all that. It's important, Yeah, travel, etiquette, safety. We're gonna do this because it's you and me and nobody else in the world right now. Like we don't know anybody. We don't we don't have any friends in Paris, we don't you know, so all right, and we've seen taken exactly. Listen, I'm just saying, and Auntie Agent does not have a certain set of skills. Okay, I know somebody that know somebody. I know somebody that knows somebody that do though, So we go to the Eiffel Tower. That was dope. We went at midnight so we could see it light up, you know, and it was it was lovely. It just was lovely. And we also saw a very big rat and we were like wow. I was like, yeah, this city, homie, don't forget damn big like a raccoon, like New York, like path New York. But you know, it's it's a big city. It's like you said, you gotta can you take the romance saying the you know, the practicality. So it was Shawn de Liz all of that. And then we went to the Louver and this was this was a moment for me. Um. First of all, the Louves is gigantic. It is the premier art gallery of the world. And h first things first, we went straight to Egypt. So we go there and Jet says, well, you know if if if you dig up somebody's grave, they call it great Robin right, and then like it really wrong and that I said, that's my said. This trip is about this is this, This trip is about hearing him out and him opening his mind and seeing things and tasting things and scovering that the world is just amazing and huge. She better kill Monger that joint. You better kill Manger that joint. Listen. I told you one time we was in the museum. I was a museum with the twins one time, and they had like a room where there was a mummy and lot of was just like, yeah, well it's gonna be a note for that. She was like, so she said, we didn't disturbed that person's spirit and the rest, and we're not going. She was like an old black lady. She was like, oh no, no, no, no, we need to get up out of here. We can't go in there. I was like okay, and I said okay, so we left and then we went and we saw the Victorian design and and all the rich fabrics and all of that stuff. That was really cool. And then we went to see Mona Lisa and um, you know, we took a picture in front of that thing and he was just like, I was like, that's what I said. He was like, it's really a man. It's really a man kind of moment. Yeah, that is so interesting. That is so interesting because twenty years twenty one years before when I first started traveling a bit, I'm gone to this Synegalese restaurant, called lave Lodge on lov Loge, and I was like, I want, I wonder if they're still open on them They were still open, same place and everything. He went and had a wonderful synecalese meal. Um. It was awesome and it was just painting of a lion and a cub and I was like getting on emotional. I was like, look sign you know, was shaking. I know, look they don't be knowing, but you're gonna heart be heard, just be going all of this. He and you know, he he had radituti and you know, he closed his eyes and he was like, my god, my god. I looked and I was like, he said those words such an old man child like he is. I just yeah, my god. I was like, okay, it was so delicious. I had no idea what where the tweet was. I saw the movie. I don't know what it is. I'm not gonna lie and squash. It's vegetables and they some kind of sauce and I don't know who prepared it, but they put angel dust in that thing, some kind of fairy juice, and it was so tender and delicious. I was like, Okay, I ain't no girl more real talk after the break. We love parents. Okay, all right, so let's get to the to the other part of this trip. We leave Paris and we had to South Acria. I forgot about that part. We get to South Africa, told him, I said, hey, let's and this was this was a track. Okay. How long a trip is are? Well, from Paris to South Africa it was about ten or eleven hours, not too bad. But this is new for him. He's never flown this long before the e t A was broken. So he was like, I know, I slept for eight hours, Mom, I know I did. How is it still for How is it all this time left? And I was like, it's not right, okay, just relaxed and you got a little bit time left. Um. Again, the flight was great, um, the whole deceeding and all the other stuff. He loved it and thought it was so dope. He kept looking at me like, damn girl. You know, he kept giving me the damn girl, look that thing good. Anyway, we go from South Africa and we take a little flight to my womb um that's in Botswana. So thus far he's gotten three stamps on his passport, one to Paris, one to South Africa and one to Botswana. So we're back where I was pregnant with Oh god, I know, I just was watching most of the and the arrangements you must have made based on your knowledge of that area, like so being able to go back and having it not be a new experience for years so that you could be the we discovered things together. So I'm gonna say that I went to Paris. We went to Paris first because he really wanted to go to Paris. He wanted to see what he was in before. And I think that we had a great meandering of streets and walk of thinnes. We definitely had some walk up thinnes. You know. He gotta those ceilings. Friends, if you have not been to the Louver and in Paris, that that art museum, the the detail, even the wood on the floors, the ceilings, the your camera will never quite do justice. It gives a good idea what you saw, but it it doesn't really give you the dimensions of things. And he also had an opportunity to see that the moors were present around Jesus consistently in those um in those paintings. I was like, you know, pointing out the moors pointing out the brown skin you know, all over the place. Um, it's particularly you know in Greek uh in some of the Greek are we saw a lot of brown people. That's not an accident, that's not time, that's not discoloration. I was like, wow, okay, they get Jesus color right now. Those photos, those those images are in thebantment the Vatican advising. Okay, the afrol downstairs, but the press out is upstairs. I got you, I got you. So now we're in my own and then we take a helicopter. Yep, we took a helicopter to the Okavanga Delta. It's the jungle of Buzana. We're going on. Oh, I can't wait to still a land. I can't wait till re endopt coming because man, we went to see what Man did with all of this amazing architecture and this beautiful artwork and these the sculptures and all of this stuff. Making hair of blow with stone like that was really truly beautiful. A can you spell that? Because we could we want to look. As you're talking, I'm sorry spell that for me. It's really what it sounds like. Okay, v a delta Okay, Oh thank you or they or they all say Okavango. I think American says Okavango. But it's okay, yeah, I'm about to go on this tour with you. As you're talking, you didn't know that, but I'm here for this. Just like people say Botswana, but it's really Botswana. It really is. When you we know that Asian and I now we're we're aware now, but you we did not know prior to the j dot Il podcast Botswana, Zambia, mozab no uh Mozambi and Botswana, so let us speak about our mother land. That's when I learn into all of the African countries and that song right there. I'm in the helicopter with Jet and we're watching the earth change. It went from my womb and it's it feels kind of uh, it feels like a beach town, but there's no beach and we're flying over and and all of a sudden there's absolutely nothing for as far as yay I can see. And he just understands how big Botswana is, and then how big the Okavanga Delta is. So we we flew for an hour on the helicopter too U with all of a sudden there was water, and you can see crocodiles doing what crocodiles, dude. You can see um impala and key do and elephants and zebra and and everything's right below us. And jet I could you know, I'm kind of you know, looking at the corner of my eye to see what he's doing. And he's just got his mouth open like this is real. Said, I'm gonna take you to Lion King, okay, and that's where we're going. So we get we layd there and they have a van a truck waiting for us. You know, you've seen them on TV, the Safari trucks. So we we get in. Of course they're going to offer us beverages because when I tell you, when you go on Safari, the one thing that they're going to do two things for sure. Um, they're definitely going to feed you like crazy. I want to know what that is? Do I want to eat a have Beth? And you're going to go on Safari at least three times a day because it's it's literally never the same show twice. I mean I see that. Okay, So walk us through these things. You know, I need to know what the food isn't need to know what, the different things. So what y'all eat in the in the safari, Yeah, what y'all eat? Let's do that first, the I guess lounge, if you will. Everything is on is on a platform, so we're not on the ground. The tents because we stayed in the tent. The tents that we're in are not on the ground. Everything is it's like a bridge. Right, we're high up, um, not too high, UM, maybe about a good ten feet off the ground. Um. Right. So that's all like really pretty. Everything is just really well done. And it's what you imagine with the white curtains and the um. It doesn't have heat, it doesn't have air condition. UM. At night it gets very very cool, depending on the time that you go. But they put what they call bush babies in your in your bed um and and bush babies are um hot water bottles that are covered in something fuzzy and it keeps your bed nice and warm. So every night there's bush babies in your bed, and it's so happy to have them because this brick' is really really cold in the desert at night. But the dag on foods, you know, I'm here with it. The lady comes out and when I tell you everybody so pretty, like they're just pretty. Mm hmm, yeah, that's that was one of Jet's first observations. Here's like, mom, everybody's just so pretty. I said, this is crazy, right, just crazy. All different kinds of faces. Um, some some with really big guys, some with slanting to the eye, some some really fair skinned, some some wide no some big lips, some one big lip, one small lip, some freckles, some molls. You know, this is people, people coming, all different shapes and sizes, but that there's something else that is attached to these folks. It's like a light within that is just you can't ignore it. So to the pretty lady comes out and I can't remember her name, it was it was like four sillables forgive me. And she comes out and she says, today I have prepared for you and tacho, I'm soup with fresh crime and a spartacles and and then she goes on and we're like just amazed, just like looking like, oh, whatever you say, you know, we're gonna eat it. Why was it even better than Paris? Of course because way better, like way better. Of course. The seasons there is just incredible, and they feed you breakfast, lunch, dinner, and high tea. What do they eat breakfast? They typically have like an English breakfast, which is some big beans, eggs, sausage. Um. They had beef sausages. They had chicken sausage. I was like, thank you so much, um. And I don't recall eating like fresh muffins and things like that. Um. But they made omelets. They made The thing that Jet loved the most was porridge. He loved porridge. Just ate it slow and looked at the O and he was like, this is crazy porridge. He loved porridge. Okay, so we go out on so far, and you know, I'm a little nervous because now I'm second guessing myself. Did I just bring my cup out here to get aped by something? Because you do have to sign a waiver saying that if you happen to die, it's nothing fault that you fully knew that you were coming to an area where they are wild and moneymus They make sure that you know as much as possible. How you know, they take every precaution, every procution to make sure that you're safe, and you have to follow the dog on rules. Don't go off the damned bridge and decide you're gonna take a walk. You're not safe, dummy, you know, but that that boy could kill you. Mind you, they're bones outside of our road and they are were just sitting on the deck and just watched them play, and the baboons and the zebra and the impala and the kid. They're all together because you know, they're not out here eat meat. They're just chilling, just chilling. It's so much to say. We saw a a leopard. They had killed a zebra and had a piece of the legs up on the tree. And she just looks she looks so satisfied. She looks so satisfied. Her legs were gapped over. And I said, wow, our guy, his name is Kombungle. We also Delta, Delta just he wanted to make sure I told him why we were there, and he really made sure to to educate gent and to um to go as close as possible. We were so close to lions. I just was like I prayed the whole time. Um. We also had a flat tire while we were in the tall brush, tall bush. It was during the day, but that means nothing. Uh. And the lions. The lions are the exact same color as the bush and Um, I stood up and Jet was like, what are you doing? And I said, I'm looking like a mere cat and he was like, here you go with this mere cat. I was like, I'm watching because all I could think of was if a lion happens to come out and God for big kill, come bungle. Um, the wheel is off, and even if I could drive this truck, I don't know where to go. We started an hour ago, an hour in every direction, you still have not reached them. The delta is so big. We saw hippopotamus, we saw ostrich, we saw baby ones, we saw leopard, we saw lion, We saw so many. We saw eagles, white eagles. I didn't know they existed. We saw my favorite animals, the key do. We saw loads of them with their pretty selves, whatever kind of mixture they are. We saw jackals, we saw oh boy, um, we saw it all, and we saw it morning, noon, tonight. Because the show is never the same, like the animals are always doing something. They're living. Okay, So this is my first example. Oh god, oh my god, a freedom. This is what freedom looks like. This is there's no confines here. This is what freedom it's like. You're able to do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want, for as long as you want. Period. Okay, So UM at night that the sky turns read sometimes it's purple, sometimes it's it's it's the orange. Like we can't fath the way that the moon shines and the way that the pictures do no justice. There's no camera I think that could capture what these these colors really look like. So we spent four days there with them. Then we took a helicopter to um the Calajadi desert. Wow, at this point, can I just ask an American question, Jill? At this point, how are you guys avoiding the bites, the bug bites these things? Are you still buck bite free? Because y'all was standing, it's also fabric all around you to make sure that you're that you don't get bitten. They have the spray called boom in the room. UM, so you can spray boom just in case if you you know, you feel away. But I make it a point to go um if and when UM I traveled to Botswana, I'm not going in there summer. I go in the winter. So and that's June and July are the best times to travel to me and and at winter that the weather it's still what in June July and what is the it's res snably warm during the day, but it's a different sun there. It's a whole different sun there. Okay, so warm is you know, eighties, upper eighties, um during the day and at night somewhere in the twenties we slept in sweatsuits and um, fuzzy socks. Well yeah, I mean I heard that the desert can't get really cold, but I didn't think get that cold. Not that cold, and that less it's the bugs because they don't be around in the cold, that's true. So at least you know when you're sleeping, they ain't gonna get you sleep. So that experienced. They laid out the carpet and then then there was one moment when they wanted to tell me how they felt. And I didn't see it coming, and it was very emotional. They were just talking about UM, my time there as modern most way and UM in front of Jet, which was really awesome. You know that I had introduced Patuana to so many to the world. That was very emotional and they were like, we love you, and they told Jet, um, you hear about these stories when when somebody says, you're in Africa, welcome home. But they were like, Jet, you were, you were created here, you were you were created here, Welcome home. They knew that. Wow, you know, and I was three three weeks pregnant when I when I got there, and I know they wanted to give you all the advice and all of the things. So yeah, I'm sure they were heavily invested. I mean, that's just so beautiful. That's so beautiful. It's still bugging me out how how beautiful it all was. So I'm gonna try to make it brief because I've been talking my head off. No, this is good because he is going to this is going he's going to open up bits and pieces of this gift over the years. You know what I'm saying. It's going to continue to kind of gift him forward. And it's it's good for people to hear it because because you're also creating like goals for people in a way I never thought about doing that. Okay, like Jill did, I'm gonna have to say my ducks because that sounds really cool, right, If that's that's the cool, You're giving people a very real kind of you know, just this moment where they can say I can come up with the thing and create it and then follow through and that these are all the elements to what it would look like and feel like. And then and it goes with with whatever budget you have that if we can't if we're not doing the big party, you know, if if we're not doing the walk with all the men, you know, and they take the boy away for you know, a week's time or whatever the case, if we're not doing those things and we have to do something to acknowledge, you know, that they're going into their manhood and that they're going into their womanhood as well. Like these things are super valuable, you know, I think. Anyway, so we're in the Calcadi. This is the most luxurious ship. Honestly, I've ever seen this tent. The tent is a mansion, baby, Okay. The fabrication of the tent is rich. That there's there's um Persian rugs all over, Moroccan rugs all over the floors, the sculptures, the mahogany beds. We both have four poor post mahogany beds. Um The bathroom has a as a shase lounge in it made with out of yellow velvet. The toilet is an absolute throne of mahogany. Like, you gotta be kidding me. Look, we had our private pool or punge pool, and we had an outdoor shower and the outdoor toilet and they were separate from each other just in case you felt like taking the poop and in the bush. We went on safari twice a day because we were like, we're a little bit We took naps in between. So we got up in five th had an amazing breakfast every day. Um. We went out, saw all the things. Um, and the desert is different. So we're now we're looking at we're looking at we're looking at the sky, we're looking at the animals. Of course, we ended up bumping into a very large lion. Like okay, I understand what a bump. We just happened to turn the corner. He was there in the car. We had a cage around. There's no cage around the car. So he saw us, we saw him, and then we just sat quietly and he did. He was like oh and went on about his business doing what he was doing. Because he's free and living without fear. There's nobody there to shoot him or hunt him or kill him. So he was like, oh, there's one of these things, and he's not hungry. So because and we're also not exactly on the menu, um, but there is. I've heard many times, um that people get killed insafari because they don't follow the rules. They get out the van, they get out the Safari jep, they go and want to take a picture with the lion. Like it's freaking simple and I and I can guarantee you they ain't got this brown on their arms. I can guarantee you those people, girl listen because what what what we're gonna do is follow the rules. Okay when it comes with the life and death. Just what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be right back. We're we're in the Kalakadi. They're serving meals that are so beautiful. Give us wine, come on jail, give us. They said, we've have we have fried chicken and a lintile selat. And I was like, okay, I don't know what to expect this chicken. I don't know. They fried the chicken. It was so light and crispy, um, and it was just the moistest pieces of chicken. I need to take a picture of like face. I'm sorry, I got lost. Don't nobody talk about food like Jill. You know that it'd be like close your eyes, y'all. Just the salad was cold and the chicken was hot. And they have something called Pelly Pilly. She said. The salad was going and the thicket was like it was a surprise. I'm sorry. The both of y'all's eyes is closed, and y'all look like y'all two seconds away from a whole moment. But it's fine, Philly pill popo. Whatever. It's an oil. It's an oil with all these peppers in it. It's like a binical oil with a lot of peppers. And you just marinated and I poured that hot. It was. It was hot, but it was like the righteous hot. It wasn't It was hot, and you with a hint of sweet at the end, not burning. It was sweet at the end. I was like, oh, friend, Pelly Pilly popo and everything. I couldn't stop yourself. Sometimes I just did a piece of bread and put some somebody give me something to stop to except with. Please, somebody got a little piece of bread please so so so so so so so so so so that was the meal for me. I ate it all and I watched the seat with Jim. He ate it all, and we just looked at each other like, this is what's happening. Can okay, wait, wait, you talked about the food, but can you just tell us did you have any cocktails? Did you have any? Every day? Every day? They serve your dreams all day long. And I never knew how good a Gin and Tonic was. I was never a Gin Tonic girl. Now I am. That is the perfect summertime refreshing. Just a little hint to get your tipsy, just a little. I love a Gin and Tonic. Now I'm in with a splash of lemon. I'm in lemon on line, okay, lemon on live. And if I can get Botswana gin, that's what that's really amazing. Alright, alright, so we go for a walk with the bushman. They're called by saddle. They look like Asian folks. They look like Asian folks, but they're really brown. And then they're the titties is out, okay, and I just need to bush men though, right, it's bushmen and women. You know how you know how the patriarch is. Of course, we don't get a word. Don't get a word, right, we don't get a full word. But there are women and of all eight is um and you know, titties out and and beautiful necklaces like string beads are all over their bodies and um. They have very short hair that looks just like the earth I swear does like from a distance in the helicopter, when you look down on the earth, it's the exact same texture. Like, come on, and they take us for a walk. They speak, there are a hundred thousand of them left. This is it. This is it because the world is coming and that the kids want to experience other things, you know, and there's very few, you know, a hundred thousand left that really want to. I guess hold on to that. But they're trying. They're trying. So they take us out for this walk and they're they're all of a sudden, you know, they're digging, and they're telling us about all the herbs and all the stuff. You get this take this dug a hole and found some big thing and they were like boil this is for pains. And I was like, damn, I wish I could take this whatever this thing is with me, right, you did ship not to cell, bring foil. And they find a scorpion, right, this big scorpion they dug out the ground and now they're playing with it. And I was like, you know, I'm allergic to beast things, so now you know. But they're they're telling us they didn't really, they didn't really speak English. We had a translator who had to live with them in order to learn how to speak the language. Because people who speak Paddy, people who speaks Zulu Pulsa, I don't know how to say that. Right, whatever the languages, this is not that. This is old, old, old, old, okay. And it takes a lot of time, and you have to live you have to be completely immersed in it in order to to to learn it. And even still our guide spoke six or seven languages, but he said he lived with them and still struggles. He said, I can hear, but I can't speak as well as I wish I could. I was like, damn, okay. So they play with the scorpion. The guy this this, the bushman puts the scorpion in his mouth. I'm never I'm bugged out. I'm bugged out. He was like, there, there are friends, there are toys. We play with them, and they dog another whole put their dude away and buried him. And I was like, it's scorpions in this damn doesn't really big facteth us underneath us. So now Jet and I'm looking everywhere because we are a little bit skinned. Now you're not going back to merecat status. You know, have thorns in our socks and trying to act like everything is cool because their barefoot. Why aren't they stopping to take thorns out of their socks because it hurts? How you got you got shoes on the right. Yeah, but there's there. These thorns are coming up under the under the pants or something I don't know, and getting stuck like a tiny mean needle, like a mean little needle. Well, this is the reality also of nature and being outside and you know, different terrain. We struggled with that one because every few steps it was a new mean needle. And when we didn't want to we didn't want to play ourselves like you y'all don't have no shoes on, how are you not getting stuck by me needles? I was like, yeah, So they made fire out of jackal dung. How you make fire to do too, I don't know, but what we watched it, we were amazed. We were amazed. I mean I've never even seen the jack They may fire, I mean out of the jack dumb Wow. Okay, there's a gas or something that comes off a pool. They mashed it up and it was like soft because there's like like like hey, it turns into kind of like hey, so you know, enough friction it became fire. We were like damn happy too. And it's crazy. The pictures that we took with the with the bushmen that came out black, all of them, and that crazy. You feel like something's weren't meant to be seen or you can't see their faces. And the pictures in between are there, but the pictures directly with them standing next to them are black. And we were like, oh, in that dope. They bring us our our lunch outside. It's so it's so jazzy, it's so special, it's so extra okay, all the things. And then we take a TVs into the self. A TVs are those four wheels vehicles. The salt flats are as big as Switzerland. It's where your water used to be. But no more right, and so it's like it's like white on the ground with the big cracks. Yes, and we went directly into the salt flats. Beautiful on the a t v s. We sped like crazy. Um. The guy was like a valet. He was like, you want to go fast? St Ja was like yes because he's driving himself for the first time. And that was dope, ast ship. Um we get out, we get way out there. We drove for like an hour into the salt flats. That's what I'm saying. That's how big it is, Okay, And then we get off and he says, um, find an area by yourself. And I noticed that as I'm walking, there's really no sound out there. There's no sound. Yeah, I felt like that, boll. It's not the same, but like out in the desert when you go to like Arizona and stuff like that, Like you get out to a certain point and it's like standing in like a studio or something like, it's like flat, no sound. It was deep and I honestly started to feel a little fear because I'm not accustomed to not hearing any sounds. But I was safe. I know I was safe because we're an hour away from any trees or vegetation. Animals are not walking out there, they'll die, they know better. There's nothing growing out there. So he says, all right, now, lay down, and we're in three different places, and um, he says, enjoy the sunset. And the sky turned peach and then it turned blue and then and then all of a sudden, there were stars just popping up. And I think, you know, obviously we've all seen starts before, but they turned colors. They were green and red and yellow. I've never seen a rainbow of stars before. And then they were shooting stars in between, not one, not twelve, not fifty, just so, so, so many. And he says, all right, now after and now I realized that we have to ride back. Yeah, there's there's lights on the a t v s, but we also have to ride through the bush on these a t vs. The driver, I mean the guide Valet shout out to Vallet. He's in the front, jets in the middle, and I've decided to take the back because I think I'm gonna protect him. And I got his back. I said, my god, what am I gonna do something? Decided to jump on my chat which direction to do? Out, what does something jump on me? And Jett is gunning it. He's gunning it hard. Just I got a gun it too, But also not get in his dust, because if I'm in his dust, I can't see, you know. And we're just out here in the middle of all of this, you know. And I figured, Okay, maybe the noise will distract and they won't want to, you know, funk with us. But I was scared. I was very, very scared. But we arrived back at our jeep and then we rode on to camp and had a wonderful meal, met people from all over the world. Most of them were Americans, which was really surprising. And then we left. Were out there any chips out there? Any chips? Any American chips out there? No? But I want you to go. I know you do. We're gonna be working on it, just to see that. See what. So the first part of the trip was so Jack to see what man can do in Paris with the architecture and all art. And this next part is for him to see what God does and what God can do. We couldn't capture, so what the stars did. We only could look at it with our eyes and be humbled. By it. Magnificence, like the true definition of creativity. Nothing better than this, nothing from the animals, to the trees, to the all of the things. Okay, so we leave this wonderful experience just floating. We've learned so much. We'll be back after the break. Now we're on our way to Amsterdam, and we get to one of my favorite cities in the world, and we kicked it. We walked the dogs, we ate the waffles. We we went to Fabricue de Luminesque, a light museum, and that was freaking phenomenal because the light it was uh what's his name, Gustaf Clement his artwork, which was very, very colorful. They had it everywhere. It just became all around you. They have a black warehouse and they created these freaking dope ass lights and the art was all over you, everywhere you look. It was amazing. We must have stayed in there for at least an hour, like it was fresh. You can rid your bike everywhere, and we took a canal. He I wanted to Heineken because Heineken is better overseas. I gotta Heineken And I was like, you want a beer, and he was like, mom, Mom, I'm not, I'm a child. I'm I said, okay, and the guy says, well, I mean we have Haneken zero. I said, what was Heineken zero? He was like, just no alcohol in it? And I was like, you gotta. He was like I do. So we enjoyed a beer together and we did that multiple times, his Heineken zero and my heine again, and we you know, chatting it up and enjoying ourselves. We sat on park benches. He's like, mom, I don't think or or a little cafe tables. He was like, mom, I don't think we could sit here. Um, where's the restaurant? I said, exactly, their seats here because people need to sit. There's uh lollipops here because people get drying out there. It's like, you know what I'm saying, Like, there's it's a conscious consideration of what people want in this place. So we got a chance to experience three different kinds of creativity and freedom, which is hopefully, you know, the goal to inspire. He bought some dope ship. I gave him a budget. I watched he found his style between Paris and Amsterdam. Oh yeah, for sure, he found his thing. He was like this is apparently Hugo Bosses is where the boy lives. I was like, oh, I said, you know what this means, right, you know what this means? He was like, what is it? Good job? You got that good? Good? Good. We go into stories. He's like, oh those sneak his mom no steaks fresh and oh man, oh man. I just looked at the fray and I was like, oh, look at your taste. It was like, were you looking at You're gonna be taking care of mama. Okay, good? I like it, you know, so we we did all of those things. He had a burger in a place, Oh my god, cannibal royal. I think that's what it was called Royal Cannibal. They made a veggie burger for that child. I watched my son have his first food orgasm, and I loved it. He did. He absolutely lost himself. He didn't speak for he kept looking at it and shaking his head. He rolled his eyes back, he closed his eyes, he looked at it again. He bit it slow. I said, this is that's it. That's what I'm looking and he is his mother's child. That is truly. We're establishing your taste as well. Okay. I see how you get there. So yeah, and when the answer them. We also went to the Torture Museum and all of this understanding when you take these trips, that this is really about the education of our kids, you know what I mean. You want to broaden their horizons and help them understand. So we got in there and when I tell you the medieval ship that was going on the time it took to create some of that maniacal, vicious, brutal ship, Jet says, wow, so it's always been like that. But that's what I was just thinking. The minds, the way these minds work. They had a piece of wood, piece of wood, a big triangle, right, This was the one that that got me. I think that all of them were crazy and way too freaking much, but this thing was a big triangle. And what they do is they put the triangle way up and you gotta get on the ladder to get up on the triangle. Then they sit your raw neckd ass on the triangle and add weights to your arms and your feet. Oh so it just hurts on your ass like you're just just digging into your ass, like slowly, slowly. These others are so creative with your torture. Wow, we saw oh they cutting titties off. They was all kinds of crazy, extra brutal, and the museum was only, you know, maybe about thirty minute visit. But we walked out of there like, damn. Your shout outs to Jill because into all the people listening, y'all gotta understand, Jill just broke down Amsterdam heavily without using the word cannabis or red light district. And that is truly beautiful because there is so much more, because it's so much more to these cities. You didn't even say tulips or tulips. So look they had on June teenth, because we were there for June Team on juneteenth um, they had DJ's on every block. So in the areas where people were eating and shopping, there were DJs. Now we took it as it was June Teeth for us, like this was will know why y'all doing this, but this is June Teeth. They played Biggie and my son and I blacked out dancing in the streets, dancing in the street. It was so fun and so what again, free can I remind people as they as people listen to your story, I want to also remind people that, you know, not for nothing, most of us have a friend or some type of family member that works for the airline, and most of us tend to use those advantages that we take to go to like Miami or California, where I like to remind people that if you got access to some type of flying privileges, you need to use those internationally. Use some of this stuff that Jill is saying. Using internationally, it's cheaper, it's cheaper, it gives you more of a discount. I just want to remind people of that. People who think they can't. Everybody knows somebody to work for the airline. Think about it. I've been traveling for forty something years and I use my mama's flight attended privileges. But I'm just saying it's a blessing, and I just think it's closer than people think it is. It's always yeah, I mean, you can you can accumulate miles in a bunch of different ways these days, and also to like even through your credit cards to all kinds of different things. But you know, but and also to like, there's a bunch of different travel hacks and a bunch of different um websites and Instagram and TikTok pages around being black and traveling solo and traveling with kids. You know. Um there's a blog called the Traveling Child. I believe it's called there's a black woman who travels with her young daughters all the time and they've been everywhere together. Travel Noir, which is another good one, and so just just like a lot of different you know. So it's ways to travel and make it more affordable, and travel with kids. You know, I have six kids. Even I wish they would give you all your own plane sometimes, but that's fine. I'm here. I'm here for it. I mean, it's it's a thing. In restaurant Cannonball Royal, they played hip hop, they played hip hop and Dutch and they got veggie burgers and it's called Cannaball. I love that. I got a chicken sandwich and they put a chicken wing on on it, on top of it, and I was like, why why have you that? Just what made you do that? I don't know who's back there and whatever that mustard is, fuck you, fuck you for that mustard. Fuck you, but that mustard. I wanted to I wanted to lay down in it. I wanted to lick it off of someone I love deeply, and now I want to look at on somebody I love dearly. Ms. I'm like, that's that's that should be the caliber of sauce you should have or anything from now War. Yeah, that's the standard. It's definitely the standard. That's the standard of sauces from now War. Oh what a wonderful time you got, Like food, culture, art, nature, it's all these really beautiful things that I kind of incorporated and then so much more. Like I said, we need to probably unfold over time all the things, you know what I mean, what it's gonna take me and take me some time to do that, but we're gonna, you know what, We're gonna end this podcast today because um, you know, it's been kind of long and we're just talking about this one thing so much. You feel long because you've been talking, but it's been great. Please take your time and unwrap these thoughts that our children deserve to have some kind of right of passage into their maturation. We are their parents, We are the aunts and uncles were their grandparents. Um, and it this was what I chose to do with the means that I had. But it's it's fair to say that, UM, our kids deserve to have something really really special around this time. And guess what you can do it. You can do it. You can do it, um, just figure out how you want to do it. If that means a lake house that Airbnb for a week with family and friends, or just all your kids friends, UM, that's dope. If it means a trip to New York City, you know, all lights and and all the fast pace and energy. If that's what it means to that Broadway show, take your kids to it. Bro. So, thank you so much for listening to j Elga podcast, and we're going to continue this conversation. How do you eight an elephant? One by its Hello listeners, It's Amber the producer here. I have a two year old son, and after listening to this, I'm starting a travel fund. Like now, speaking of travel funds, you do not have to be rich to see the world, just intentional. I'm going to share with you in an article from nerd Wallet that outlines a couple of the best apps for saving money. I personally use capital to build my little travel fund and I love it. I'm saving and I don't even realize it. It allows you to create rules around your spending habits. For example, like if I get a coffee, it'll automatically put two dollars into my savings. I'll also drop in links to some of the incredible places Jill visited on her trip. I hope we all get to see a zebra soon. Hi. If you have comments on something we said in this episode, call eight six six. Hey Jill, if you want to add to this conversation, that's eight six six nine five four five five. Don't forget to tell us your name and the episode you're referring to. You might just hear your message on a future episode. Thank you for listening to Jill Scott Presents Jay dot Il. The podcast JA dot Ill is a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcast from I Heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.