We Get To Do This - The Grift

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Father, thank you for our time today. What a

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privilege it is. We truly get to do this and

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we mean it. So Lord, I'm asking we consecrate

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literally everything before you and I'm asking

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that you would touch and bless our conversation

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today. And Father, for our friends listening,

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I pray that this would in some way ignite conversations

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for them as well about their faith, about what's

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going on in our culture, in our world, across

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the world, not just our nation, but across the

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world. I'm asking for healthy, life -giving,

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worldview conversations about all the things

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that are happening in our world today. We honor

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you with it in all things in Jesus' name. Amen.

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You got your jacket on. You're looking mighty

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slick. The only jacket I have in the building

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is a suit jacket. I'm cold. I'm chilled. I'm

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actually warm because I came in. Of course, nothing

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was working. You were flying. Yeah, you were

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on the fly. It usually happens. Good morning.

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I can bring that down a little more if you want.

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Well, not that you got your jacket on. Yeah,

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I'll bring it down. Do you have the remote? Don't

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worry about it. If you don't have the remote,

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no, no, don't worry about it. I'm used to sweating.

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This is the podcast. Welcome to Our Living Room.

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Hey brother, good to see you again in person.

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It has been too long Two weeks. Yeah. Yeah, right

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at it two weeks and wow the last couple of days,

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of course, we were waiting in Amsterdam for Hopefully

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for our granddaughter to arrive We were praying

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our main prayer was God your timing, of course

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It'd be great if you give us a little favor and

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God's like, yeah I think I think you're okay.

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So the last few days were a little stressful

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just cause you know, like checking in with Christina

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and she's like, nah, cause there was some talk

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earlier that the baby may come early and you

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know, all things change and we're like, okay,

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whatever. We know we've been there, done that.

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Exactly. And these first babies like, you know,

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they tend to be late. So it's okay. Um, uh, but

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also I was just, you okay with the sound? I'm

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good. Yeah. I just felt disconnected from from

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home, from our family. You're a dog, your fur

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baby. Definitely, definitely the fur baby. We've

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been reunited all as well. Because we were in

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hotel rooms, it's just at a certain point, like,

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okay, I've had it. Now, even though hotels were

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great and we celebrated Tina's birthday, but

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really this past weekend was such a big weekend

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here at the church, at Bridge Church. And we

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knew we wouldn't be here for for all the special

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things that were happening. And so I was like,

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I felt a little disconnected from it. And so

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and I've been trying to catch up listening to

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the podcasts of the of the services. But you

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got to tell me what was happening here, because,

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you know, you were just like, I can't wait to

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do the show. There's stuff I got to tell you.

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I'm like, I know what that feels like. Yeah,

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I'm good. Go for it. Well, so a week ago, we

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had You know, on July 4th, we had Rick Green,

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Patriot Academy, 250th, huge celebration, fireworks,

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I mean, everything you can imagine, dinner, all

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that. So it was a full marathon weekend. We follow

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that up with another full marathon weekend. Why

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not? Hey, we could have put the 250th off. Anyway,

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so we had, and we were so blessed to bring in

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the Caleb Global. Great ministry out of Nashville,

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Tennessee. The founder, we call him Papa Don.

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He's known that all over the world. Don Finto,

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Papa Don, he's 96 years old and he decided to

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make the trip to Fredericksburg. He'd never been

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here before. He grew up in Texas. He was born

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right outside of La Mesa, Texas. We had a lot

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to talk about when we got here. We had a lot

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in common. But he had not been to Fredericksburg

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in years and so decades. So he came, his daughter

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came with him to kind of help him. He's 96, so

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it's helpful to have somebody. But he is amazing.

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I could not believe he's not. I tell him, I said,

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I want to be like you when I grow up. because

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I mean at 96 this man is sharp as a tack. So

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he was here and then the one who's really running

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the ministry now, he's the Papa, the founder.

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But basically the president, his name is Todd

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McDowell. Todd was with him. We had Todd about

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a little over a month ago. Did he speak on a

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Wednesday night? He did a Wednesday night and

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he was phenomenal. And what it was, it was eating

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the first Pringle off the top, off the stack.

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And you know what happens then? You can't stop.

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You're done. So that was it. We got a taste of

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what he was bringing in terms of what it means

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to appreciate and value our Christian heritage

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in Judaism. Israel and Jerusalem and to honor.

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You know, just down the 250th we honored our

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founding fathers of our country, right? Of course,

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yes. Celebrated all those amazing heroes. But

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there's also heroes around the Jewish faith and

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the Christian faith, which Judeo -Christian believes

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it was Judaism first and then Christianity came

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in with Jesus. But we went back and we honored

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our founding fathers spiritually. Abraham, Isaac,

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Jacob, Moses, the great founders of Judaism and

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establishing a one God. One God, not 500 of them.

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One God, capital G. We got to do that. We got

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to honor our founding fathers. for our nation,

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but we also got to honor our founding fathers

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for our faith the very next weekend. And Todd

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addressed that and did a wonderful job of connecting

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the dots for us. But really it was just this

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idea of what it means to understand. Here's another

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beautiful thing. You would have really appreciated

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this if you hadn't heard it yet, but he talked

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a lot about Ishmael and how Ishmael was, you

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know, he was Not the planned child, but yet he

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still was the firstborn. And was going to receive

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a great nation. Would have received everything.

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And even though that got removed in the short

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term, but yet God did make promises to Ishmael

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that nations would come from him. Yes. And sure

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enough, they have. Yeah. And so, he connected

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the dots for a lot of things. We unpacked it

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with our staff on Tuesday, our staff meeting,

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and we buzzed for an hour. I mean, there was

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so much to talk about. But the short version

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is just that it gave me such an appreciation

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for our spiritual founding fathers, just like

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I have a great appreciation for our national

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founding fathers, and honor where honor is due.

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man, they just brought it, and they brought it

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with such love. This was not a political rally.

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This is not Zionist shills. I mean, this is…

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It's none of that. Oh, I thought I missed the

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meeting. It's just, here's what the Bible says,

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here's why we bless Israel, because the Word

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of God says to, therefore God says to, and we

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just want to be in alignment. with God's heart.

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This is not political. This is not, you know,

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MAGA. This is not, you know, dissing on woke

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left or whatever. It's just, we want to be biblical,

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period. And there's no debate around it. People

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can debate it all day long, but there's nothing

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to debate. God said, God established. And the

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least likely nation to do it with would be this

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weak, small nation that ended up being enslaved

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for a good part of its beginning. And to think

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that they would be any better now in terms of

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their very secular nation, high degree of homosexuality

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and LGBT, it's all there. Well, they've had all

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kinds of bad rulers and kings that were no good.

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Well, they did in Bible times, too, but God redeemed

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them. Here's the point. God chose to pour out

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His love on someone who wouldn't appreciate it.

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And we're no different. We are no different.

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Gosh, so I heard the first sermon, it's on the

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Godcaster, we make a podcast of it, and Intellectually

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already knew a lot of these things. He drew an

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analogy which I really loved, and the way he

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told it was a little too long to clip, but he

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was talking about how we're grafted into the

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vine, into the Jews. He called it the root stock.

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The root stock, yes. Because he compared it to

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vineyards here in Hill Country. So I know this

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story because David Maserano had told this story

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one time in a dinner. This is about the blight,

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the epidemic that hit French vineyards in the

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19th century. And what they found out, and this

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I think is 1880, I believe, that the root stock,

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the wine vines from Denison, Texas, Hill Country,

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they had evolved to be able to protect themselves

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against this blight. And it has a really cool

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name. Yeah, it was an aphid. It was a little

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bug. Well, yes, aphid is the bug. And so the

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condition was Phyllizera epidemic. I just love

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doing pronouncing stuff I can't pronounce. So

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the the millions of Texas root stocks literally

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were shipped across the Atlantic and the French

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winemakers grafted their traditional European

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vine varieties onto these Texas roots and so

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I knew this story and And he made the analogy

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to how we have been grafted into the vine of

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of the Jews and of Israel and so the and which

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is I have friends in Israel and I'm trying to

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get my train of thought going here because part

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of it is we're supposed to love them so much

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that they get jealous and that they will become

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believers, which is a tough one because I love

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all my Jewish brothers so much. I love you too,

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brother, but Jesus wasn't insurrectionist. So

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they're not really open to that. But then I was

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also thinking, do we honor our root stock? And

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I took this analogy to the root stock from the

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French vineyards and I researched if they still

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honor our root stock. Because I had really only

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heard it once from one person. This is the second

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time they're heard from Todd and I'd forgotten

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it. And the answer is yes. In 1992, Munson's

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home where Dr. Munson delivered this root stock

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in Denison, Texas was honored as the place where

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the root stock came from. In 2002, the city of

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Cognac unveiled a permanent bronze statue of

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Munson in their central square to permanently

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honor the man who saved their cultural heritage.

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And I love that. And I think it's probably time

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again that France do something, you know, we're

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24 years on. But so it proves the analogy to

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be true. But I don't think we do a good job of

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it as believers. In fact, I think we've been

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hiding a lot because of cultural pressure and

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because words like support and pray and bless,

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they're all so convoluted that that rolls into

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this giant, well, you're a Zionist. All these

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words that just get spread around, which is now

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so clear to me. By the way, that word was co

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-opted. Zionism is not a bad thing, but it's

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been co -opted and stolen. Palestinians was co

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-opted. That was a word the Romans used to basically

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make fun - Based out of Philistine. Yeah, to

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make fun of the Jews. Another name for the Philistine.

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Yes. So the whole thing has been so convoluted

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throughout the ages. And that's why I'm so sad

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that I wasn't there to really get a full download

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of it. But when you go back to the word in Genesis,

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those who bless Israel will be blessed, those

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who don't, I will curse them. And Psalm 122 verse

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6, I can just spout that off the top of my head.

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I don't know why. Have I heard that a million

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times from somebody? We pray for the peace of

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Jerusalem. There's not a lot we have to do. It's

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not all, but, you know, and we have to be intentional

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with it, but it doesn't… bleed over into this

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whole cultural nonsense that has been taking

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place and I bring news from the front my brother

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I bring news something has Pivoted something

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has flipped come on. Yes. Okay now I'm excited

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something has changed just around this whole

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weekend everything is happening in the same week

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and and it all started with funny enough the

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preliminary hearings of Tyler Robinson, who was

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being accused of killing Charlie Kirk. Nice segue,

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by the way. That was brilliant. Keep going. Keep

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flowing. You're on the flow. You're on the flow.

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Don't spike the ball yet, man. But what happened

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is all this nonsense that we've been hearing

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for a year, which started with Israel killed

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Charlie Kirk, and it was because he didn't want

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to take money, and Yahoo, and all of this stuff.

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which just culminated into ultimately our president

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is completely remote controlled by Netanyahu

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and he's weak and does only what they say. This

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all of a sudden reaches crescendo. I've always

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said throughout my show business career, you

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have to be very careful of how you use or manipulate

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media. So if you manipulate media for your benefit,

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and I used to mean just newspapers or articles

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or television or radio. Now it's social media.

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It has a boomerang effect. So if you throw that

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boomerang and you use it, it always, always,

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always, always comes back and whacks you in the

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head and knocks you down. I've seen this in my

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own life time after time. I'm very careful with

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interviews because it just comes back at you.

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If you're using it or abusing it, So there was

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a lot of this going on. And I would say the one

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of the main progenitors was Candace Owens. Correct.

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And she just came up with so many. Now there's

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another little piece I have to bring in here.

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The number one podcast category since, you know,

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for the past 15 years is true crime. And it's

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particularly women who listen to true crime.

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It is extremely popular. It started with serial,

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and that was an NPR production. And there's something

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about our cultural development watching crime

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shows, even your CSI stuff that you used to watch.

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There's something about tying it all up in a

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bow within 20, 27 minutes without the commercials.

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I have resolution and we've solved it and the

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bad guy goes to jail. And there's always these

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twists and turns. And so we are, we're almost

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conditioned to, to want to dive into conspiracies

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and find out what's behind it. I myself for years,

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I've just been looking at before it was popular.

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And that's why I call myself now a conspiracy

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therapist, because I, I, I know the dead ends

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and there, most of them are dead ends. So this,

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this got to a level. of exploding microphones

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and Egyptian military planes. And with just a

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few hours of recording of the preliminary trial,

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forget what the prosecution is saying, this young

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man's defense is not saying, well, what about

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the Egyptian military plane? So the evidence

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is so overwhelming that it just cracked everything

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and the boomerang came back. And it came back

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so hard. that the number one progenitor of anti

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-Israel sentiment, I won't say anti -Jewish per

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se, I don't want to call anyone an anti -Semite,

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Nick Fuentes. You've seen him, you know who I'm

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talking about. And he did a piece two days ago,

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I brought a couple clips, relatively short, and

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he explains exactly what happened, exactly why

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it happened. And it comes down to what I think

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I categorized as audience capture, where your

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whole audience is saying, you've got to talk

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about this. What do you mean? It was an exploding

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microphone. The Jews are doing it. They did,

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you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so

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I brought these three clips. The first one, I

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bleeped out one or two words just because we

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know what they are. It's not necessary to have

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those. The first clip, little hard to listen

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to, but stuff we haven't heard and we're all

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adults and I'm sure we can handle this. But it's

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important because it kind of sets up what happened

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and what changed in our culture. And as we get

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through it, you'll see that the tide has changed

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at this very moment with all these things happening.

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So it's really good. Makes you lose PayPal and

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lose access to the platforms and lose your job

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grifters are not going to criticize Israel because

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there's no money in it There's no easy money.

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It's not an easy grift. So what were they doing?

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They were praising Israel. That was the easy

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grift You're looking for a black Republican to

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say blag's it Yo, you're looking for a black

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Republican. I'm a black Republican. Give me a

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million dollars a year. That was the grift. That

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was, you could go to the black leadership summit

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and say, black, don't vote Democrat. Here's your

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million dollars. Have a nice day. You could be

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any black person, any brown person. I'm black

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and we ain't got to vote for no Democrats necessarily.

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Understandable. Here's your million dollars,

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sir. Have a great day. That was the grift. What

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changed in 2024 and 2025 is it became really

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in vogue and really popular for people to talk

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about Jews in Israel in a negative way, also

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just to talk about conspiracies in general. Suddenly

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that became the grift and it attracted people

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that were looking for notoriety, people that

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were looking to build a social platform. It's

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interesting that he's saying this. And I appreciate

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that he's saying it. I do too. Because I think

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he's probably more principled than I even considered.

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So now he explains the mechanism. Here's what

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I mean by this. If tweeting Israel critical sentiment

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gets them engagement and money, then like a mouse

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or a cat or any animal in one of these experiments,

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if they press a button and get a treat, if they

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press a button and get a treat, they're trained

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that this is what they're going to do every single

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day. So if I'm an influencer on Twitter, I want

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to grow my following. I want to make my ex revenue

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dollars How do I get my reward? How do I get

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my treat? I press the button every day every

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day I press the button and what's the button?

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Uh JFK said Hitler's spirit will rise from the

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grave Israel Jews did everything The liberty

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was intentional. Every day, press that button.

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And always escalating, always going in the same

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direction. Does it ever get refined? Is nuance

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introduced? Counterarguments entertained? Do

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we discuss the limitations, the limitations of

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this theory? No. Press the button. If we're not

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getting the same reward press the button harder

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press a button twice press a button 12 times

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Slam the button so he's he's calling it out.

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I call this audience capture He's calling out

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exactly what happened and it's not all monetary.

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It's also you know, it's ego like people are

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retweeting me I'm getting attention. I'm ratio.

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There's all these terms online. It's crazy last

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clip here. We'll look at Jackson Hinkle Jackson

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Hinkle, I think gained like three million Twitter

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followers in nine months. What explains the explosion

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in engagement for people criticizing Israel?

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No one's gonna like to hear this. You're gonna

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call me a grifter, you're gonna call me a shill,

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you're gonna say controlled opposition, switch

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sides, honest to God truth, this is the truth.

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Probably it was being driven from foreign countries

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in the left. That's just true. Why oh why all

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of a sudden? Did it become supercharged if you

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criticize Israel on Twitter boom hundred thousand

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likes you could literally tweet Israel hundred

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thousand likes Did everyone in America all of

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a sudden start hating Israel? Well, some people

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did But I think it was driven in part or maybe

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a lot by the Muslim world, which is very engaged

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online Because they were the ones at war with

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Israel because Palestine is their regional cause

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Palestine is their religious ethnic struggle

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So I think a lot like Jackson Hinkle how many

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of his three million followers that he gained

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in those nine months How many of them came from

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the United States of America? People knew what

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he was up to before all of a sudden you have

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this regional conflict between Israel and the

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Arab League effectively Or you could say the

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axis of resistance would be more precise Now

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all of a sudden anyone going after israel supercharged

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and we all know is being driven by these muslims

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We all know is being we all see it on twitter.

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That's who's promoting it. That's who's doing

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it So I have respect for him for doing this uh

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because He he's exactly what he said. They're

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calling him out for that But it it's true. I

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mean this this I feel is true, but it has changed

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things dramatically online. And this pivot is

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taking place in rapid tempo. And I think it's

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fantastic to watch this happen. This is really

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cool to see this happen. And it's just like,

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it was a spiritual war to begin with, and it

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just took the right things to line up for this

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to turn around, and it is turning around really

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quickly. Wow. I mean, it's to this point now

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where There was this whole, we've got to stop

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giving money to Israel, $3 .8 billion a year,

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which is military aid. Actually, I did the calculation

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that is literally, because people say, why are

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you giving money to Israel? America first. Two

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weeks of SNAP benefits equals $3 .8 billion.

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Nine days of money that goes to things that don't

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deserve it in America, squandered, fraud, nine

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days. is $3 .8 billion. So if you look at all

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the things that we put, where we put our money

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in context, we are definitely very much an America

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first spending country. We got a lot of problems.

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And so now Congress, there's several elements

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within Congress who want to really cut Israel

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out from everything, from the money, from military

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knowledge sharing, which is already being uh,

00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.259
being sold online as they're merging the IDF

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with our military. Okay. No, it's just not, that's

00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:25.059
not true. Um, now you see Democrats voting against

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Democrats to stop this nonsense. I could, I mean,

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it's all small in the details right now. You're

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not reading a lot about it. The tidal wave is

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big. A big change is coming. Big change. big,

00:24:36.069 --> 00:24:40.089
beautiful tidal wave towards our president. And

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to get a biblical perspective on this, Galatians

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6 -7 says, do not be deceived. God is not mocked.

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For whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

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And this is the thing about online life. People

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don't realize that what they say, not only does

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it matter, it's forever. We know that in physics,

00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.519
your sound wave produced never stops. I mean,

00:25:05.579 --> 00:25:07.940
there's words still dribbling around this room

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from days ago. But in the digital world, once

00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:15.920
it's out there, I mean, you see people not getting

00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.720
jobs or getting fired from jobs because of what

00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.160
they felt so bold behind the keyboard. And they

00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:24.859
jumped on the bandwagon, started beating whatever

00:25:24.859 --> 00:25:27.970
it was they're beating, whatever drum. But our

00:25:27.970 --> 00:25:30.670
words matter. We will be held accountable for

00:25:30.670 --> 00:25:34.910
the words we say. And I love or I appreciate,

00:25:34.970 --> 00:25:37.089
it's probably a better word, I appreciate when

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we see it happen quickly. It doesn't always happen

00:25:39.809 --> 00:25:43.690
that way. No, it can take decades. Exactly. But

00:25:43.690 --> 00:25:46.609
to see this boomerang come around this quickly

00:25:46.609 --> 00:25:51.509
is telling, I'm telling you, I'm going to come

00:25:51.509 --> 00:25:54.549
from a biblical perspective every time and the

00:25:54.549 --> 00:25:58.119
Bible is clear and God is clear. that if we bless

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Israel, we will be blessed, but if we curse Israel,

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we will be cursed. And the word curse, there's

00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:06.279
several ways to break it down, but the one that

00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:09.099
makes the most sense to me in terms of today's

00:26:09.099 --> 00:26:12.920
relevance, blessing means an empowerment to succeed.

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Cursing is an empowerment to fail. You set yourself

00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.900
up for failure. Yeah, when you when you go after

00:26:21.900 --> 00:26:24.099
them and we're watching that boomerang happen

00:26:24.099 --> 00:26:26.339
very quickly and and we don't even have to do

00:26:26.339 --> 00:26:29.160
anything No, you don't have to go out there and

00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:31.960
say don't to post anything. No, it's all I feel

00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:35.059
no need to do that. It's all good It's not necessary.

00:26:35.099 --> 00:26:38.019
It's the boomerang has come back all by itself.

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Just as it always does It's almost like it's

00:26:40.900 --> 00:26:44.400
almost like physics. It's a law of nature with

00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:46.720
with sound waves with energy waves. They just

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come back and it's turning everything around.

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It doesn't mean that there aren't problems in

00:26:50.390 --> 00:26:51.670
Israel. It doesn't mean there aren't problems

00:26:51.670 --> 00:26:53.829
here. There's problems everywhere. But that's

00:26:53.829 --> 00:26:58.150
never been the point. It's so much simpler. That's

00:26:58.150 --> 00:27:02.309
what gets me. It's like, please, people. It's

00:27:02.309 --> 00:27:04.710
just praying. That's it. Blessing and praying.

00:27:04.869 --> 00:27:06.670
You don't have to do anything else. If you can,

00:27:07.170 --> 00:27:09.509
you don't have to do anything else. The prophet

00:27:09.509 --> 00:27:13.670
Hosea was a righteous man, and God gave him an

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assignment, and it was harsh. He said, I want

00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:18.900
you to go marry this woman over here. She's a

00:27:18.900 --> 00:27:25.700
prostitute. Hosea was representative of God and

00:27:25.700 --> 00:27:29.460
his love. The prostitute was representative of

00:27:29.460 --> 00:27:33.279
the heart of Israel, the behavior of Israel,

00:27:33.460 --> 00:27:36.319
the character of Israel. And he told him to marry

00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.039
her. He marries her. They have children. She

00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:41.200
steps out on him. That's just an easy way of

00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.140
saying it. She begins to have other affairs.

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What does God tell him to do? take her back,

00:27:46.460 --> 00:27:52.279
forgive her, over and over and over again. And

00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.299
he continued to reach out to her with unrequited

00:27:56.299 --> 00:27:59.200
love. I mean, she would not love him back and

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she would continue to run away and sleep with

00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.039
others. And of course, the punchline in Hosea

00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.500
is Israel has played the harlot, love her anyway.

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This is God's heart. He chose that nation not

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because they're successful, not because they

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were big, and not because they honored him. He

00:28:18.549 --> 00:28:22.069
chose them to show this is how much he loves

00:28:22.069 --> 00:28:27.369
people. It's a picture of his unconditional love,

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agape, we read it out of the Greek, agape, this

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love that does not require a condition. The covenant

00:28:34.089 --> 00:28:36.690
that he cut with Abraham, it's called the Abrahamic

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covenant, Not the Abraham Accords. This is back

00:28:40.660 --> 00:28:43.839
in Genesis 15 and 17. It predates the Abraham

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Accords by a bit. He cut that, but he actually

00:28:47.619 --> 00:28:52.359
put Abraham to sleep when he cut the covenant.

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Usually when you cut a covenant, you state terms

00:28:55.380 --> 00:28:57.960
to one another, you agree on the terms, and then

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each of you walk through the animal that's been

00:29:00.180 --> 00:29:02.339
slain, and it's called the blood trail, and you

00:29:02.339 --> 00:29:05.640
go through, and that's you symbolically saying,

00:29:05.930 --> 00:29:08.250
If I do not uphold the terms of this covenant,

00:29:08.410 --> 00:29:11.349
maybe it be done unto me as it is to this animal.

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And when God made the covenant with Abraham,

00:29:14.809 --> 00:29:17.569
he put him to sleep. He had nothing to say or

00:29:17.569 --> 00:29:21.230
do about it. And he said, it will be a covenant

00:29:21.230 --> 00:29:25.009
forever. And in the Hebrew, that literally means

00:29:25.009 --> 00:29:28.119
forever. It's an everlasting covenant. In other

00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:30.559
words, some of the other covenants, the Mosaic

00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.460
covenant, the Aaronic covenant, the Davidic covenant,

00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.799
a lot of those were time periods. And they were

00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.140
dependent on both parties. But this was not.

00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:43.279
This was the one covenant that God made where

00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:47.039
Abraham, the person, the other party had no say

00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.039
in it. It also means there's no dependency on

00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:52.180
the other party. If the other party chooses not

00:29:52.180 --> 00:29:54.839
to uphold the terms of the covenant, God still

00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.240
will. This is some really good stuff you're saying

00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.640
here, because I'm just taking it all in. It's

00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:02.640
exactly how Jesus always, you know, Jesus didn't

00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.500
want to go hang out with winners and people who

00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:06.420
were doing great. He wanted to go with the broken

00:30:06.420 --> 00:30:10.500
people, with the losers. For people outside the

00:30:10.500 --> 00:30:15.819
faith, it must be so hard to understand this

00:30:15.819 --> 00:30:19.500
unconditional love for fellow man, unconditional

00:30:19.500 --> 00:30:23.440
love just like God has for Israel. But I think

00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:27.140
even for believers, it's difficult. It is. Logically,

00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.339
you think, to what end? How long do I have to

00:30:30.339 --> 00:30:33.500
do this? Will they ever listen? Maybe not? I

00:30:33.500 --> 00:30:36.339
mean, how do we approach that as believers? It

00:30:36.339 --> 00:30:38.680
means we have to be radically biblical. We have

00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.019
to make a decision upfront. Am I going to follow

00:30:41.019 --> 00:30:44.920
God's Word, God's promises, God's mandates, God's

00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.819
commands? Or am I going to try to fashion my

00:30:47.819 --> 00:30:53.200
own kind of Christianity, my own designer? like

00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:58.619
the back cover of Aqualung. In the beginning,

00:30:59.059 --> 00:31:02.099
man made God in his image. That's what it starts

00:31:02.099 --> 00:31:03.960
at. I remember reading that. I wasn't even a

00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.519
Christian. I went, that sounds blasphemous. I

00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.920
wasn't even a believer. I was like, I don't know

00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:13.200
if I'd go that far, but that statement of people

00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:17.549
trying to make Christianity work for them. Where

00:31:17.549 --> 00:31:19.589
Christianity becomes the addendum it comes to

00:31:19.589 --> 00:31:22.549
the add -on not the primary driver of your life

00:31:22.549 --> 00:31:25.130
your faith life And so we have to make a decision

00:31:25.130 --> 00:31:28.029
who's gonna be on the throne of my life me or

00:31:28.029 --> 00:31:31.829
am I gonna put God there and no matter What it

00:31:31.829 --> 00:31:34.029
looks like to the culture around me in the time

00:31:34.029 --> 00:31:37.950
period in which I live I've already made my choice.

00:31:38.089 --> 00:31:40.789
I don't change my mind in the middle of the game

00:31:40.789 --> 00:31:44.430
To fit the culture and that's what we see a lot

00:31:44.430 --> 00:31:46.210
of because I think there are a lot of believers

00:31:46.460 --> 00:31:49.140
who haven't bought in. They haven't stepped over

00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:52.420
the line. They made an emotional decision. They

00:31:52.420 --> 00:31:54.420
heard a sermon, heard a good song, and it got

00:31:54.420 --> 00:31:57.539
their emotions moving. And in the moment, they

00:31:57.539 --> 00:32:00.480
meant it as far as their emotions, but it wasn't

00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:03.880
a rational decision. They made that, I will follow

00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:07.240
Jesus. I will obey God's word no matter what

00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:11.880
it costs me, no matter what it takes. Now let's

00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:15.569
talk about balance. as a believer. So, when we

00:32:15.569 --> 00:32:17.829
have these weekends and we have these conversations,

00:32:17.950 --> 00:32:21.130
these discussions, it can feel very much like,

00:32:21.250 --> 00:32:23.049
that's what I'm supposed to do as a Christian.

00:32:23.329 --> 00:32:25.809
I am supposed to be blessing Israel, praying

00:32:25.809 --> 00:32:30.069
for the peace of Jerusalem. But it's not, you

00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:31.769
know what I mean? It's like, it becomes the focus.

00:32:31.890 --> 00:32:33.190
Like, is that what I'm supposed to do? Is that

00:32:33.190 --> 00:32:35.190
what it's all about? Pastor Jimmy, help. It's

00:32:35.190 --> 00:32:37.750
not what it's all about. It's one spoke in the

00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:41.839
wheel. Yeah. You look at a motorcycle tire, it's

00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.099
got a lot of spokes in it. It's one spoke of

00:32:44.099 --> 00:32:47.779
many. And so I don't go now, sew my entire life

00:32:47.779 --> 00:32:51.019
into this. It's just a part of who I am as a

00:32:51.019 --> 00:32:54.660
follower of Jesus. We don't preach about Israel,

00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:58.660
but we pray for them every week. Is it an analog

00:32:58.660 --> 00:33:01.160
to how we are supposed to be towards our fellow

00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:05.440
man? Oh, absolutely. Again, the picture of Hosea.

00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.900
marrying a prostitute and loving her no matter

00:33:07.900 --> 00:33:11.240
what. It wasn't dependent on her, it was dependent

00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.579
on Hosea's love. Same way with God, same way

00:33:14.579 --> 00:33:17.359
with us. How many times do you forgive your brother

00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.880
who offends you, the scripture says? Seven times

00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.680
seven? No, seven times 77. I mean, he's like,

00:33:22.859 --> 00:33:25.619
he's given an infinite number because it's going

00:33:25.619 --> 00:33:27.940
to happen. But we already in culture don't do

00:33:27.940 --> 00:33:30.000
that. I know. That's wrong. We don't do that.

00:33:30.019 --> 00:33:33.059
We don't forgive. There are people still so mad

00:33:33.059 --> 00:33:35.799
with their actual brothers and sisters and family

00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.720
because of what happened with separations during

00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.859
COVID, which I think is all a part of this, by

00:33:41.859 --> 00:33:44.700
the way. It all flows into this. No doubt. There's

00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:47.160
a strategy there. There was some demonic stuff

00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.759
going down. Man, there's a lot of healing to

00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.500
do. A lot of healing. When we pray the Lord's

00:33:53.500 --> 00:33:55.160
Prayer, which we do that every week as well.

00:33:55.220 --> 00:33:57.680
I'm very intentional with these things. The reason

00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.559
we do the Lord's Prayer is because in the Lord's

00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.980
Prayer, it says, forgive us our debts as we forgive

00:34:02.980 --> 00:34:05.500
our debtors. But really, I actually slipped up

00:34:05.500 --> 00:34:07.339
in one of the services, I think the first one,

00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:10.159
and I said, forgive us our trespasses as we forgive

00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:11.860
those, because that's how I learned it as a kid,

00:34:12.139 --> 00:34:16.480
so it comes up. But when I'm praying that prayer

00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.719
for myself, I say, Father, forgive me my offenses

00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:24.139
as I forgive those who offend me. Now, who's

00:34:24.139 --> 00:34:28.679
it dependent on? me, as I forgive them. Then

00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.019
you will be forgiven. Exactly. It's conditional.

00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.199
We call it a covenant statement. And so it's

00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:40.480
covenantal in that I'm saying, only as I forgive

00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.059
will I be forgiven, but that's biblical too.

00:34:43.340 --> 00:34:45.780
So that's part of the prayer. So we do that.

00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.360
So we pray for the peace of Jerusalem, but I'm

00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.000
not going to go out and buy, you know, star of

00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.940
David necklace to hang around my neck just to

00:34:52.940 --> 00:34:54.800
show everybody. That'd be pretty awesome if you

00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:56.840
had your shirt open and one of those little hairy

00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.440
chest. That would be pretty cool. Look like an

00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:04.139
Italian pastor. Hair, some bling, some Christian

00:35:04.139 --> 00:35:08.380
bling, the cross. That's the thing is people

00:35:08.380 --> 00:35:11.619
can get. swept up, just like anything. They get

00:35:11.619 --> 00:35:14.840
swept up into America, patriotism. They get swept

00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:19.420
up into now. I hated Israel. I went to a seminar

00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:22.519
now. I love Israel. And then they go nuts. We're

00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.820
always over -correcting the car. My dad used

00:35:25.820 --> 00:35:27.559
to teach me driving because everything was rear

00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.820
-wheel drive growing up. He'd teach me, he'd

00:35:29.820 --> 00:35:30.880
say, all right, I'm going to throw the car into

00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.739
a power slide. What do you do? Steer into it.

00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.679
You don't over -correct. That's how you roll

00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.380
a car, and that's how you roll a life, too. Well,

00:35:39.739 --> 00:35:44.860
I mean, yes, there's so much to think about and

00:35:44.860 --> 00:35:48.760
to learn from this. And I think that's kind of

00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:52.579
my takeaway is, you know, look at the analogies,

00:35:52.739 --> 00:35:55.699
look at what you're being shown, try, continuously

00:35:55.699 --> 00:35:59.739
try, and I fail, to apply this to my own life.

00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.460
Actually, I find online is a really great place

00:36:02.460 --> 00:36:06.280
to do it. When someone just says something really

00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.699
horrible, I don't respond. I just bless them

00:36:09.699 --> 00:36:13.619
right at that moment. It's difficult because

00:36:13.619 --> 00:36:17.500
if you fail at it, time and time and time again.

00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:25.139
There's a lot stacked against us in this world.

00:36:25.139 --> 00:36:27.199
There is a lot stacked against us. One of the

00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.219
things that you've helped me do, Adam, is not

00:36:30.219 --> 00:36:35.320
put the weight of public opinion in the online

00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:39.730
world. I mean, the representative population

00:36:39.730 --> 00:36:42.489
of the world that's sitting there pecking out

00:36:42.489 --> 00:36:44.730
negative comments towards you and dissing on

00:36:44.730 --> 00:36:49.809
you is so infinitesimal to the world. There's

00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:53.449
a good world with good people out there. And

00:36:53.449 --> 00:36:57.989
it's a much smaller population that's sitting

00:36:57.989 --> 00:37:00.489
online waiting to jump on your next statement.

00:37:01.170 --> 00:37:05.210
I'm over that. And much of this is dead internet?

00:37:05.910 --> 00:37:11.869
bots, bots programmed to talk back and to manipulate

00:37:11.869 --> 00:37:15.989
opinion. And that comes from governments, it

00:37:15.989 --> 00:37:18.530
comes from corporations, comes from stock traders.

00:37:19.010 --> 00:37:21.610
Somebody that has an agenda. You'd be amazed

00:37:21.610 --> 00:37:22.590
how much that's in there. I want to live with

00:37:22.590 --> 00:37:26.239
no agenda. Let me just say that. It's a great

00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:28.619
life. It's the international lifestyle. It's

00:37:28.619 --> 00:37:32.219
peaceful when you succeed at it. When you can

00:37:32.219 --> 00:37:35.320
step back and pause. I mean, I get crap all the

00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.840
time online and I just go, whatever. Oh, you

00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:39.659
just identified yourself. All right, I bless

00:37:39.659 --> 00:37:42.000
that. I pray for you by name now. Thanks for

00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.619
giving me your name or your handle, whatever.

00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:49.380
We got so many great emails and feedback coming

00:37:49.380 --> 00:37:51.920
in. Now, we got a note from Holly. She's in France

00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.079
right now. Yeah, yeah, she's traveling, riding

00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:56.760
her bicycle all over the country. That's our

00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.579
Holly who sings here. Yes. And she's like, I

00:37:59.579 --> 00:38:02.420
already miss the church family. I love it. We

00:38:02.420 --> 00:38:05.300
miss her. We do. And as she said, I've only been

00:38:05.300 --> 00:38:07.119
gone for four days, already missing my church

00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.920
family. This episode, that was 40, I guess, was

00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:14.300
exactly what I needed. And I loved hearing this

00:38:14.300 --> 00:38:21.980
so much because this podcast to me is That's

00:38:21.980 --> 00:38:25.380
the impact, that's success. I've had so many

00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:27.199
projects in my life where it had to be numbers.

00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.039
What's the number? What's the download? What's

00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.179
the size? What's the rating? What's the this?

00:38:32.260 --> 00:38:34.960
What's the that? And even my devotional this

00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.699
morning, my goodness, I should have brought that

00:38:37.699 --> 00:38:40.960
with me. It was talking about this very thing,

00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:44.340
about how God is not impressed by big numbers,

00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.519
and He will not bless based upon the numbers.

00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:51.340
It's just not important. Man, once you get yourself

00:38:51.340 --> 00:38:54.460
through that, life changes so much. It's like,

00:38:54.500 --> 00:38:57.539
oh, I look at things quite differently now. I

00:38:57.539 --> 00:39:02.400
really do. It's so good. So good. Here's one

00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.219
that I think I mentioned to you the other day.

00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:09.880
We got a note from Aaron Newberry, and he's in

00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:14.360
Colorado. And he had heard us talking about Victor

00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:19.230
Marx. And he said, Marx is running for governor

00:39:19.230 --> 00:39:21.289
of Colorado. I think he actually won the primary.

00:39:21.429 --> 00:39:24.769
He's for the Republican Party. I'm a Christian,

00:39:25.150 --> 00:39:27.929
he says. I just have this leery feeling about

00:39:27.929 --> 00:39:30.610
him. I'm not sure what it is. I've been praying

00:39:30.610 --> 00:39:33.409
about it. Maybe it's just me and my paranoia,

00:39:33.690 --> 00:39:36.230
and he would love to know our thoughts about

00:39:36.230 --> 00:39:39.070
Victor Marx. So I'm going to toss that right

00:39:39.070 --> 00:39:40.889
into your court there, brother. And then you'll

00:39:40.889 --> 00:39:43.769
land on that. Well, I will. Because he had some

00:39:43.769 --> 00:39:46.190
great ministry in your direction as well. Yes.

00:39:46.369 --> 00:39:50.349
So yeah, Victor Marx is a solid, solid, strong

00:39:50.349 --> 00:39:54.329
conservative believer, follower of Jesus, committed

00:39:54.329 --> 00:39:57.230
to his family to the core, and his wife is a

00:39:57.230 --> 00:39:59.869
rock star. Yes. He's one of those that when he

00:39:59.869 --> 00:40:02.730
preaches, he looks over at her and bounces things

00:40:02.730 --> 00:40:06.150
off of her mid -message. He did that. So we hosted

00:40:06.150 --> 00:40:10.130
Victor Marks in our church. And I felt like I

00:40:10.130 --> 00:40:12.329
met a brother from another mother as we got to

00:40:12.329 --> 00:40:14.690
know each other. And we had a lot of conversations.

00:40:14.949 --> 00:40:18.070
We're close to the same age. So we had a lot

00:40:18.070 --> 00:40:19.889
of conversations about physical fitness because

00:40:19.889 --> 00:40:23.369
we're both trying to steward our bodies and go

00:40:23.369 --> 00:40:26.070
for the long game. But what I appreciated was

00:40:26.070 --> 00:40:29.210
his heart. His heart to protect the broken because

00:40:29.210 --> 00:40:32.849
his testimony, whoever wonders about Victor Marx

00:40:32.849 --> 00:40:35.510
should go back and look for his testimony online.

00:40:35.670 --> 00:40:37.289
It's going to be on YouTube. There's videos.

00:40:37.530 --> 00:40:40.480
There's a little documentary about it. and realize

00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.320
what this man came from, kind of like a JD Vance

00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.679
who was just very abused, very neglected as a

00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:49.900
child. Extremely abused, really. Yeah, raised

00:40:49.900 --> 00:40:53.639
in poverty and yet overcame that to become a

00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:55.920
world changer. Somebody's going to make a difference

00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.260
in the world and that's Victor Marx. That's his

00:40:58.260 --> 00:41:01.639
heart. His heart really is for protecting the

00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:06.869
innocent. Yes. Much of his later in life ministry

00:41:06.869 --> 00:41:10.710
has been directed towards rescuing children from

00:41:10.710 --> 00:41:14.349
trafficking, sex trafficking, slave trafficking,

00:41:15.090 --> 00:41:17.670
and they do that in some of the most dark and

00:41:17.670 --> 00:41:22.070
dangerous parts of the world. And so when he

00:41:22.070 --> 00:41:24.829
came here, and I'll just add my two cents here,

00:41:25.230 --> 00:41:26.909
and I've been trying to think about this question

00:41:26.909 --> 00:41:30.769
because I can see how he looks, how he may portray

00:41:30.769 --> 00:41:34.730
himself, how an Instagram post looks, words that

00:41:34.730 --> 00:41:37.510
he might use. He's certainly not refined necessarily

00:41:37.510 --> 00:41:41.750
in his speech. I can see how that can come across

00:41:41.750 --> 00:41:47.159
as, what was the term that he used here? That

00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:52.039
was an interesting term, leery feeling. That's

00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.179
a lot of that is just programming that's been

00:41:54.179 --> 00:41:56.599
hammered into us from media and entertainment.

00:41:58.099 --> 00:41:59.920
But if you look at his heart, and what happened

00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:02.880
to me with Victor is I'd never met him. He didn't

00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.800
know who I was. He had no idea of my background.

00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.119
He said, I need to speak with you. Did we talk

00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:09.860
about this on the show at some point? No, no,

00:42:09.860 --> 00:42:13.039
not this one. And he brought me down to Patriot

00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:16.980
Academy where he was staying. And he said, I

00:42:16.980 --> 00:42:19.820
need to talk to you. I need to, what is the term

00:42:19.820 --> 00:42:21.760
that I'm looking for? Is it like a deliverance?

00:42:22.019 --> 00:42:25.780
Yeah, yeah, it's freedom ministry, but it's something

00:42:25.780 --> 00:42:32.039
prayer. Retool. Yes, he says, I do this with

00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.139
special forces. I've done this with CEOs. I think

00:42:35.139 --> 00:42:36.960
he said a president or two. I'm going to do this

00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.280
to you because I don't know, but you need this.

00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.960
And he just went to town praying over me and

00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:49.019
helped me identify the actual evil that surrounds

00:42:49.019 --> 00:42:53.659
me, that is somehow connected, and this can be

00:42:53.659 --> 00:42:56.860
from childhood and years, but it's an actual

00:42:56.860 --> 00:42:59.079
kind of a physical thing that you can't see.

00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:04.239
And it was so powerful that at a certain point,

00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.739
as he's telling these entities to leave me...

00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:10.599
I don't want anyone to think that this is like

00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:12.699
crazy voodoo -woo -woo stuff. Your head didn't

00:43:12.699 --> 00:43:14.820
spin around. You didn't spit pea soup or anything,

00:43:14.900 --> 00:43:17.500
right? But the lights and the entire power in

00:43:17.500 --> 00:43:20.239
the Patriot Academy went out, which doesn't happen

00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.039
at the Patriot Academy. Yeah, right when we were

00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.260
praying. Right when he's in the middle of this

00:43:25.260 --> 00:43:28.039
prayer. And to this day, that retooling that

00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.320
he's done, I repeat it every single day on my

00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.449
prayer walk because— Excellent. It protects me.

00:43:33.469 --> 00:43:35.769
Like you may just say, not today, Satan. You

00:43:35.769 --> 00:43:37.949
have no power here. You have no authority over

00:43:37.949 --> 00:43:41.230
my family. You're weak. This has already been

00:43:41.230 --> 00:43:43.869
fought. And so I add to that, get out of my light,

00:43:44.050 --> 00:43:47.730
you Kujo. That's the name I gave it. And all

00:43:47.730 --> 00:43:49.869
you can do is kneel down at the throne of our

00:43:49.869 --> 00:43:52.409
Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, whose blood was

00:43:52.409 --> 00:43:54.489
shed on the cross for us. We're protected. We're

00:43:54.489 --> 00:43:56.909
covered. And this goes for my family, for my

00:43:56.909 --> 00:44:00.050
wife, for my dog, for my friends, for our daughters,

00:44:00.110 --> 00:44:02.400
and for my sister. and their families. And I

00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:06.400
got to tell you, it starts my day off good. And

00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:09.900
I feel powerful. So that's the Victor Marx that

00:44:09.900 --> 00:44:13.440
you and I know. And so we've been following his

00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.920
campaign. Certainly when you got a guy like this,

00:44:17.099 --> 00:44:18.780
a lot of people come out of the woodwork and

00:44:18.780 --> 00:44:21.380
try to discredit him and knock him down. That's

00:44:21.380 --> 00:44:24.900
so far that has not worked in Colorado. Definitely

00:44:24.900 --> 00:44:27.179
the state has changed throughout the year. So

00:44:27.179 --> 00:44:30.019
he's got quite a run ahead of him, but yeah,

00:44:30.340 --> 00:44:32.739
I endorse him. I would just say that. I really

00:44:32.739 --> 00:44:34.500
endorse what he stands for. And he's another

00:44:34.500 --> 00:44:38.099
man who's not a politician. That's part of the

00:44:38.099 --> 00:44:41.360
value. We've got people that are grassroots beginning

00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:45.239
to say, all right, Donald Trump wasn't a politician

00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:47.820
and he's holding the highest office in the land.

00:44:48.179 --> 00:44:50.920
So maybe I can make a difference. Funny how that's

00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.699
kind of where our... Founding fathers came from

00:44:53.699 --> 00:44:56.500
interesting and they were like 20 year old farmers

00:44:56.500 --> 00:45:00.920
farmers. Yeah, you know printer Iron smith, you

00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.699
know, you know exactly exactly normal regular

00:45:03.699 --> 00:45:08.320
people I just want to congratulate codename Pete

00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.940
Remember talked about Pete who was suffering

00:45:10.940 --> 00:45:14.119
for alcoholism. Yes, and I went back and forth

00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.519
with him and I wanted to share this because I'm

00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.219
so Proud of his bravery because he knew he had

00:45:20.219 --> 00:45:23.000
to go through a detox, and he was trying to white

00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:26.300
-knuckle this stuff. I said, brother, I recommend

00:45:26.300 --> 00:45:29.000
AA because they have a faith -based program.

00:45:29.219 --> 00:45:31.900
I've seen it work. It's literally saved dear

00:45:31.900 --> 00:45:34.559
friends of mine. And he was very afraid to tell

00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:38.699
his wife about it. And I said, man, You got it.

00:45:38.699 --> 00:45:40.739
You got to talk to your wife. This is your partner

00:45:40.739 --> 00:45:43.840
if she's a proverb 31 wife She will be there

00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.059
for you and she will see it through with you

00:45:46.059 --> 00:45:49.420
and he did and and he's he's going into the program

00:45:49.420 --> 00:45:53.539
is doing the detox I said that probably takes

00:45:53.539 --> 00:45:56.500
more courage than the actual detox part, brother.

00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.099
So I was just so proud that he did that. And

00:46:00.099 --> 00:46:04.380
I look forward to hearing from him again as he

00:46:04.380 --> 00:46:08.219
goes through this journey. Wow. Can I share a

00:46:08.219 --> 00:46:11.219
good news moment from Rhett Rogers? Rhett Rogers,

00:46:11.900 --> 00:46:15.500
he's one of the Carnivore brothers. I'm connected

00:46:15.500 --> 00:46:17.119
to the Carnivore community. In fact, I'm doing

00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:20.909
a couple of... I want to hear about that. Talk

00:46:20.909 --> 00:46:22.289
about Rhett first. I want to hear about that.

00:46:22.349 --> 00:46:25.610
Rhett's fantastic. He's just become a dear brother

00:46:25.610 --> 00:46:27.610
to the Lord. The thing that was interesting is

00:46:27.610 --> 00:46:29.809
when I didn't actually step into this space,

00:46:30.030 --> 00:46:34.690
I got pulled into it. Turns out there's a ton

00:46:34.690 --> 00:46:36.650
of people that are in that world, the health

00:46:36.650 --> 00:46:38.860
and fitness world, that are Christians. They're

00:46:38.860 --> 00:46:41.039
just trying to steward their life, steward their

00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.579
body, you know, the physical side. So I met Rhett

00:46:43.579 --> 00:46:48.099
at several different meetups. MEAT meetups. Yeah,

00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:50.800
exactly. And so he wrote, he said, hello, Pastor

00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:52.739
Jimmy, this is Rhett Rogers. We met in Austin

00:46:52.739 --> 00:46:55.099
and Tennessee. Just had to message you today.

00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:57.260
I hope you don't mind. I was having a terrible

00:46:57.260 --> 00:46:59.420
day. One of those no good, very bad, terrible,

00:46:59.579 --> 00:47:02.280
I'm going to go eat worms kind of days. Eat worms.

00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.150
At least he's staying carnivore. I got in my

00:47:05.150 --> 00:47:07.690
car after work and I was angry. I couldn't get

00:47:07.690 --> 00:47:09.510
let go. So before I drove off, I said a quick

00:47:09.510 --> 00:47:11.769
prayer. Lord, I don't know why I'm so angry.

00:47:11.909 --> 00:47:13.929
I love you. Please take this from me. I started

00:47:13.929 --> 00:47:15.989
to drive and I remembered I missed your podcast

00:47:15.989 --> 00:47:19.010
from yesterday. This was last week. I had 51

00:47:19.010 --> 00:47:21.929
minutes on my commute and your episode was 51

00:47:21.929 --> 00:47:25.750
minutes. Exactly. I just felt a warm hug from

00:47:25.750 --> 00:47:27.969
this experience. Wanted to share with you. Absolutely

00:47:27.969 --> 00:47:30.619
love what you do and want you to know. You're

00:47:30.619 --> 00:47:33.440
encouraging and blessing people all the way in

00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:35.940
Washington state. I don't miss an episode though

00:47:35.940 --> 00:47:38.460
sometimes I'm late. In this case, the timing

00:47:38.460 --> 00:47:41.280
was perfect. God bless you, my friend. We get

00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.260
to do this and I thank you and Adam again for

00:47:44.260 --> 00:47:49.679
all you do. Sorry for the book. That's what it's

00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.219
about though is we want to help people. That

00:47:52.219 --> 00:47:55.639
is the bottom line. We're not selling something.

00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.760
This isn't MLM. We're not multi -level marketing

00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:02.079
anything. It's just we want to get good news

00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:05.659
into people's lives. In the world that's, the

00:48:05.659 --> 00:48:08.360
internet world that's got a lot of bad news.

00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:12.059
Yeah. I think we're a balance. I like to think

00:48:12.059 --> 00:48:14.519
of us as a balance to what else is out there.

00:48:14.820 --> 00:48:16.800
Yeah. Like a counterbalance. A counterbalance.

00:48:17.900 --> 00:48:20.099
I wrote something down. I don't know why I'm

00:48:20.099 --> 00:48:24.309
just going to bring it up here today. As I heard

00:48:24.309 --> 00:48:29.750
someone say, busy is a burden under Satan's yoke.

00:48:30.309 --> 00:48:36.829
The tyranny of the urgent as a counterfeit. Surrender

00:48:36.829 --> 00:48:39.969
brings you into the Lord's boot camp of belief.

00:48:40.889 --> 00:48:44.469
And I just wrote these things down. And for me,

00:48:44.530 --> 00:48:46.989
it's like every day I have to remind myself,

00:48:47.610 --> 00:48:49.469
like when you get to the angry, I want to eat

00:48:49.469 --> 00:48:54.920
worms part, I'm not in control. It's the best

00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.039
thing I've learned in the past, you know, almost

00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.500
four years. I'm not in control. And Lord, just

00:49:00.500 --> 00:49:02.440
help me. Man, Tina and I have gotten really good

00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:06.000
at this now. Like something happens and stop,

00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:08.860
pray. We're not in control. Lord, it's your control.

00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:11.920
That's usually after the initial spin -up. Because

00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:13.880
we all react to things. We're getting real good

00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:17.420
at that. Right. Like the time is shorter and

00:49:17.420 --> 00:49:20.400
shorter, right? Yes, compresses. And your recovery

00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.320
time is quicker. You can see it right away in

00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:26.920
our faces. Love that. Oh, wow. You're right.

00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.019
This is the enemy. Or let's look at this from

00:49:30.019 --> 00:49:34.219
this angle. Wow, it's so good. It's so good.

00:49:34.699 --> 00:49:36.360
It doesn't mean that crap doesn't happen because

00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:40.300
it does. But yeah, I think the recovery, I mean,

00:49:40.420 --> 00:49:44.150
that's so good when it's like. 15 seconds instead

00:49:44.150 --> 00:49:46.730
of 15 hours. Yeah, a day and a half. I was thinking

00:49:46.730 --> 00:49:49.769
a day and a half. Easily. That was our joke when

00:49:49.769 --> 00:49:51.070
Annette and I were young and married. We were

00:49:51.070 --> 00:49:54.969
like, okay, if she was that mad at me, we'd have

00:49:54.969 --> 00:49:56.510
the conversation, but it's still going to be

00:49:56.510 --> 00:49:59.269
a day and a half of coldness, you know? Cold

00:49:59.269 --> 00:50:01.349
atmosphere. And you just feel bad. It's like

00:50:01.349 --> 00:50:04.510
there's a pit in your stomach. Awkward conversations,

00:50:04.889 --> 00:50:06.889
you're tiptoeing. Pretending to be really nice

00:50:06.889 --> 00:50:10.219
to each other like, I know what's going on. But

00:50:10.219 --> 00:50:12.400
that's the beauty of building your life on a

00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.300
solid foundation of faith. And I brought this

00:50:15.300 --> 00:50:17.559
in here on purpose because this is my reminder.

00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:20.440
So what it is I've got sitting on the table in

00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.079
front of Adam and I is the National Monument

00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.420
to the Forefathers. I don't have the actual one.

00:50:25.500 --> 00:50:29.940
It's 81 feet high. This one's a foot maybe. It's

00:50:29.940 --> 00:50:32.079
over there in Massachusetts. We went to see it.

00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:34.659
But I've got a replica of it. And what I love

00:50:34.659 --> 00:50:36.679
about this, I keep it on my desk. I put it on

00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:38.639
my desk now. I used to have it over on a table.

00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:41.739
I want it in front of me all day long to remind

00:50:41.739 --> 00:50:45.920
me of this initial piece and that's faith. The

00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.340
top of that monument is a female and she's holding

00:50:48.340 --> 00:50:51.059
her finger up in the air and she's called faith

00:50:51.059 --> 00:50:53.480
and she's holding a Geneva Bible, one of the

00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:55.679
original Bibles that was brought over on the

00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.019
Mayflower actually. And then you've got the four

00:50:59.019 --> 00:51:02.659
foundations that support faith. One is liberty.

00:51:02.889 --> 00:51:06.969
the other one is morality, the other one is law,

00:51:07.510 --> 00:51:10.449
and the other one is education. And all of these

00:51:10.449 --> 00:51:13.670
work together to support and create a foundation

00:51:13.670 --> 00:51:17.030
that you can build a life on, but that we also

00:51:17.030 --> 00:51:19.070
built our nation on. A great country, that's

00:51:19.070 --> 00:51:21.250
right. And so to go forward, sometimes you need

00:51:21.250 --> 00:51:24.429
to look back. You need to remember your foundations.

00:51:24.949 --> 00:51:27.809
Remember your founding fathers and mothers. You

00:51:27.809 --> 00:51:31.250
know, both now, for me, not only nationally,

00:51:31.469 --> 00:51:36.090
but also spiritually. You touched down on the

00:51:36.090 --> 00:51:38.929
numbers. You got the whole runway to go. Perfect

00:51:38.929 --> 00:51:41.570
three -point landing, brother. All right, everybody.

00:51:41.690 --> 00:51:43.489
We'll be back next week, and we look forward

00:51:43.489 --> 00:51:46.269
to it because we get to do this. Have a great

00:51:46.269 --> 00:51:46.570
week.