June 24, 2026

We Get To Do This - Presence over Pixels

We Get To Do This - Presence over Pixels
We Get To Do This - Presence over Pixels
Hello Fred!
We Get To Do This - Presence over Pixels

Why did the sparrow fall? What's worth watching this summer and why not to complain about packing your suitcase. All these questions and more this week on We Get To Do This with Pastor Jimmy Pruitt and Adam Curry - Episode 38

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Abba Father, what a joy and what a privilege

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to come to you today and what a privilege to

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be able to do this remotely today. Just through

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technology, we often say it's a miracle any of

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this stuff works, but we get to do this and it's

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fun and it's joyful. Pray for our listeners today

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and whenever they're listening to this, that

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they will be blessed, they'll be encouraged and

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even provoked to think deeper and to think critically.

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And so we pray for them in Jesus' name. Amen.

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Amen. It's Wednesday, June 24, 2026. We get to

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do this. This is episode number 38. We get to

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do this. Yeah, baby remote. This is so cool.

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It is so fun. I love doing this. I was really

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excited and it was like, you are so excited.

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In fact, I was so excited. I was an hour early

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getting on. She was like, wait, why are you so

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ready already? And I'm like, what? And then about

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that time you text me, I'm like, oh, I'm up an

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hour early. It's okay brother. I must have been

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really excited. So you're on vacation and it's

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highly appreciated that you still want to do

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the show. You set up the rig. You got the Pod

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Mobile. I just want everyone to know the Pod

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Mobile rig is an amazing little device. Pod Mobile,

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you can find it on Google. It's fantastic. Super

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cool device. I'm just sitting here looking at

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it going, this is amazing that we can do this

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so easily actually because I can pack it in a

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very small bag. As long as you have a really

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tiny mic stand, you know, it's I mean, it's very

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small. It's light. I mean, super neat piece of

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equipment. So what's your setup right now on

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your in your vacation studio? Yeah, so I'm sitting

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at a little table in my room here. We're in Florida

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on Longboat Key Island. Just got. ocean on each

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side of us. It's, it's stunning. And then the

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room I'm in, it's not quite as sweet, but it

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sort of is. It's kind of hard to explain, but

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just got one. I'm on a small table and all I've

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got is the pod mobile, my microphone, my computer,

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and a mic cable. I mean, it's that simple. It's

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the best. It's the best. Very cool. I really

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appreciate that you're doing this because vacation

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is still vacation. You know, so, but it's also,

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we need to catch up. You and I need to catch

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up. Really? I know. I've missed you, bro. I mean,

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you were gone some, we've been gone some. I mean,

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it's just that time of year where everybody's

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kind of moving, traveling and out and about.

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So yeah, what's the latest? Well, there's a couple

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of things going on. You're on vacation. You still

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are doing your daily grind, which is appreciated.

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You're doing kind of an abbreviated version,

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which means, well, actually I'll read the one

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from yesterday. It's just Jesus day two you're

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doing just Jesus and so the daily grind it's

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on It's on hello Fred for those who listen to

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hello Fred on the godcaster in a spoken version

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Pastor Jimmy Sends it out on all the socials

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and I get a an early text version, which I'm

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always very appreciative of so he says we're

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enjoying Time away this week. I'll be posting

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a simple just Jesus reminder each day for the

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next week Signed Pastor Jimmy and yesterday was

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Matthew 5 3 from the New King James Version blessed

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are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom

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of heaven and I really enjoyed just the simplicity

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of this daily grind because what it led me to

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do is Something that I've learned from you. It's

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like I wonder exactly what poor in spirit means

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if we look at the Greek or Aramaic original and

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because as a new believer I read that is oh when

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I'm down when I'm not feeling good when I'm poor

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in spirit and Imagine my surprise when I figured

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out what it really meant And so I thought maybe

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we could kick things off today with you giving

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an explainer of poor in spirit That's great now

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If you go into the actual Greek of that, it really

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breaks it down and it's going to read a little

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bit different than the phrase poor in spirit.

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But the word poor literally where it means reduced

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to beggary, begging, asking alms, destitute of

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wealth, influence, position and honor, lowly

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afflicted destitute of the Christian virtue.

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So, I mean, just that word by itself is very

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intense, but he's not saying just the poverty

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ridden here. He's talking about poor in spirit.

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In other words, to me, the way I read it, I'm

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not looking at a commentary. This is just off

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of my heart. When I see poor in spirit, I say

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destitute of oneself. and needing more of his

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spirit. Yes, that's exactly what I came up with.

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Okay, did you look it up? Because I didn't, that's

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just what it means to me. Well, there's a whole

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bunch of Greek words that are unpronounceable

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like Makarioi, and Pochatoi, and Bakchoi, and

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all this other stuff, and Numati. You think Greek's

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bad, try to pronounce Hebrew words. I'm hocking

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up a loogie the whole time. I speak a little

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bit of Hebrew. That's my go -to. That sounds

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like German. It's still guttural, right? It's

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guttural. What I came up with is... Only those

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who can admit they are completely empty -handed

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in front of God are eligible to receive everything

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God offers. Yeah, because look what the offer

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is. The kingdom of heaven. Right. Theirs is the

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kingdom of heaven. So when we come before him

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impoverished in spirit of saying, Lord, I want

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to be empty of me and empty of my own spirit

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so that I may be filled with yours. Yes. I wonder

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if this is widely misunderstood. Oh, no doubt.

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Just the Beatitudes itself could be an entire

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sermon series for 10 years. It really could.

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And that's why I chose this. First of all, I

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was thinking about what can I do while I'm on

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vacation? That's simple. But also, has some depth

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to it. And so I've started thinking about, well,

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there's nothing more important than Jesus. I

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mean, than what Jesus can bring to the table.

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And so that's why I just kind of took it on,

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okay, just Jesus. And I always ask the question,

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is just Jesus enough? And so that's kind of why

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I went that direction. And I've been actually

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encouraged by the response to that because usually

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I write two or three, well, about six, seven

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sentences. That's the daily grind. But just putting

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the verse only and keeping it simple, people

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have been responding as if I've been writing

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a whole paragraph or something. And it's been

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really neat. Oh, interesting. Because people

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are thinking. And so that to me makes me happy.

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Yeah, well, and spot on though, because and maybe

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the simplicity of just Jesus in the daily grind,

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maybe that's what actually spurred me on to like,

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huh, what does that actually mean? I'm glad you

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did that. Way to go. Well, I pay attention to

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what you say. Keep diving in. I didn't say it.

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Jesus did. That's the whole point. Good point.

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Good point. Jesus' words. Just Jesus. I love

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it. I bring messages from Bridge Church in Fredericksburg

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as well. Everybody misses you. And James handed

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me, you know James who's on our safety team and

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he sits in the corner in the morning. So every

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Sunday I come in, I have a little chat with James.

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He listens to the podcast all the time. He loves

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the podcast. And he handed me a note and he said,

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I think we should own this. Hold on a second,

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James. And this is what's written on it. It was

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a question. Do you know what God left out of

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the Bible? And then underneath is the answer.

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Your opinion. Oh, boom. I'd never heard that

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before. He says, I came up with this or it came

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to me and I think we should own this. I love

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it, James. I love it. I think that's fantastic.

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You know what? He's named something that is the

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tension that me and Pastor Brian live with when

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we're preaching the word, when we're preaching

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scripture. Every time we stand in the pulpit,

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I gotta tell you, I still get nervous every time.

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And I'm not nervous because I'm nervous about

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speaking in front of people. I'm way past that.

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I'm nervous because I wanna rightly divide the

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word of truth. The last thing I ever want to

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do is perpetuate just my opinions. And yet if

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you think about it, That's what an interpretation

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is, right? It's your opinion. That's why even

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when I read commentaries or scholars or experts,

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I always take them with a grain of salt because

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it's just their opinion at the end of the day.

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And so I'm very cognizant of that. It's very

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humbling to me. And I remind myself of this often

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because I don't ever want to get in a pulpit

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and just bang the pulpit and just this is the

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way it is because I'm telling you, There is so

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many layers to scriptures is so many layers of

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truth that you peel one back and there's a hundred

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more and Yet you may peel one back and think

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I finally found the secret. I found the answer

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This is it This is what this means and yet the

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Bible even describes itself that the word of

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God is living and active and Sharper than any

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two -edged sword. So if the word is living and

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active then that means it's not just it's not

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just stayed, it's actually fluid, not static,

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but fluid. And so to me, that's why the Bible,

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you know this, you'll stumble on a scripture

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and you go, oh, I've read that scripture before.

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And then you read it and a different word catches

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you, pops out. And it's like, well, I've never

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seen it that way before. Well, that's the beauty

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of the Word of God. It's the Word of God. Yes,

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written by Paul, written by men, written by people

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who dictated things, but yet it's inspired by

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him. And that's why we call it the Bible, the

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Word of God. It's inspired by him. God breathed

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is another way to say it. You know, you said

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something that I hadn't even considered when

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I read James's note because I took it as, yeah,

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my opinion, okay. I didn't even consider what

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you just said there that as a pastor, You literally

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are giving your opinion whenever you're in the

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pulpit. Absolutely. I mean, just by definition

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of what you're doing, you give your opinion.

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That's a little deeper than I thought it would

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be, actually. Well, what it means is I got to

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be careful about what hills I die on in terms

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of convictions about things, because as we're

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always hopefully ever learning, ever growing,

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then the hill I died on five years ago probably

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is not the hill I would die on today because

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I've learned, I've grown. And that's the idea.

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At my age and season of life, I wanna still remain

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as teachable, as moldable, as open to hearing

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other people's thoughts and dare we say it, opinions.

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And say, you know what? I have not considered

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it that way. Thank you. You've added something

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to my, now you're helping inform me as I read

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scripture. And that's part of the journey of

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faith. And that's why the scripture says we walk

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by faith and not by sight. So the day we think

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we've got God figured out or we've got the Bible

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figured out and I see a lot of, you call them,

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what do you call them? YTPs. Yes, the YouTube

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pastors. Man, those guys are ripping off like

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they have got it figured out. And I'm sorry.

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And I just, I have a hard time with any level

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of pride or arrogance in preaching. That's just

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a personal thing with me because when we're before

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God and we're handling His word, man, you better

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be at the most or in spirit you can be. Yeah.

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Is what you said there is deep again because

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another J another one of my favorite James has

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said be quick to listen slow to speak and even

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slower to get angry and it seems like a lot of

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YTPs go straight to the anger part and the outrage.

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They just skip over everything. They're like,

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oh, what are we doing here, man? What are you

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talking about? It always reminds me of that band

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Rage Against the Machine. They're the killer,

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right? But man, one thing they had was passion.

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They did. And a lot of drugs. Do you know that

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they got really famous at a Dutch concert? No,

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I didn't. Yeah, it's the live performance. I've

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seen some of the YouTube stuff. Yeah, so the

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live performance where they're really going at

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it, that really broke through that live performance.

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That was a Pink Pop is a Dutch summer concert

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series. Okay. Yeah, and so I think it's really

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the Dutch that pulled them out and put them front

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and center with that particular song. They were

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known, of course. It's fascinating to me because

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the thing about it is, you know, I may disagree

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with a lot of their philosophy, but... But I'm

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intrigued by their passion. I'm intrigued by

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their intensity, albeit drugs, albeit whatever,

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youthful rage, whatever. But I also see that

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same spirit, that same mindset on a lot of YouTubers,

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a lot of. podcasters. I mean, it's just rage,

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rage, rage. And we're the people who are living

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up in a down world. We're the people that are

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saying, you know what? It's not all bad out there.

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There's good people on this planet. Man, we got

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a bunch of them that listen to this podcast and

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they reach out to you and me or they hit us up

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on X and they add things or they encourage us.

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And it's like, man, there are good people everywhere,

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everywhere. And Jodie White, known as the Pickle

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Princess, She sent in a note. I don't know if

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you got, but I think she only sent it to me.

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She wanted it to be show content, which I appreciate

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since you bring it up. And I'll read it to you.

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She says, Adam, we get to do this. It was wonderful

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this week. I thoroughly enjoyed it. The thing

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Pastor Jimmy read was a good reminder of exactly

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how spoiled we really are. I'm trying to think

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what that was exactly. It was that thing about

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I get to travel. Oh yeah, exactly. I have to

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pack, but I get to travel. I'm doing the dishes

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because I get to eat. Yes, perfect. Right. As

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she continues, also I too am enjoying all the

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patriotism and the FIFA visitors enjoying our

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country. Which it just continues, man. It's snowballed.

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I saw an English guy at Java Ranch the other

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day when I was playing chess with Willie. Oh,

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yeah. I love it. Yeah, we love the hill country.

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You know, we were in Houston. Now we're going

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to Dallas. It's just, it's amazing. It really

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is so cool. We're at a resort today, this week.

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So we're hearing lots of, lots of accents from

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other worlds and other places. It's beautiful.

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I love it. So The Pickle Princess's question

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is regarding When Calls the Heart, which she

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says she is now binge watching as well. I have

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not seen this. I have not seen this. Can you

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explain briefly what this series is about? It's

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set in the early 1900s, so it's a period, historical

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period piece. It's a romance. It's like watching

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a Harlequin romance basically, but without all

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the fluff. But it's based on family. It's based

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on values. We use the three F's, faith, family,

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and freedom. They're all included in this. Interesting

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enough, though, it's not in America. It's set

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in Canada, in the Northwest Territories of Canada.

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And it has the Canadian mounted police in the

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early days. These guys were constables of their

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communities. So it goes into some politics. It's

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very lighthearted. It's somewhat predictable.

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It's made by Hallmark back before they lost their

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minds. And yet it's the longest running series

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on Hallmark. They're in the 14th season, 14 years.

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And all the same characters, now they come and

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go. But oh my gosh, the character development

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is amazing, but they constantly hearken you back

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to God, hearken you back to faith. One of the

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main characters is a guy named Joseph. He's black,

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by the way, and he's the town pastor. And it's

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beautiful. Well, Tina and I have been looking

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for something to watch. So we're going to start

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on that because we're a little tired. And I'm

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just going to say it. It's maybe because it's

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the month of June, which is known as Pride Month,

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but every single show for no reason has to have

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gay guys kissing. I grew up in Amsterdam, like

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nothing shocks me. But it brings nothing to the

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story. You're doing it just to do it. And I mentioned

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this on no agenda and people said, oh, you have

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no idea. It's happening in books. It's everywhere.

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Like this. Wow. This is a, this is an attack

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we got to be careful of. Anyway. Yeah. Obligatory,

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right? It's just, and I got to tell you, if,

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if I was that, I'd be insulted by the way they

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treat it. I mean, so even, even from that angle,

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it's like, just sort of a tip. And anyway, I

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don't want to dive deep in that. But this is

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what I love about this particular series that

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has been such a blessing to us is because it

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has faith. It's all about family values, and

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it's about freedom. And in a time period too,

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which is fascinating, they've just entered into

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the roaring 20s. And so the youth are wanting

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to learn these new you know, scandalous dances,

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you know, the shimmy and the Charleston. And

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it's like, oh my gosh. And so they had an ethical

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moral dilemma over a youth dance, you know. And

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it's so fun because there's an innocence about

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it too. And the things that startled them, like

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when comic books came on the scene, all of a

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sudden, it created a scandal because now all

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the use of tension is going to be stolen by these

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books. Not much has changed. I mean, the dynamics

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don't change, even though the methods do and

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the delivery. of it changes. Whether it's a phone

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in your hand, well, they were struggling with

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the kids having comic books in classes. Everything

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you're saying, it's like, oh yes, I have this

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topic ready. I've got this topic ready. So put

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a pin in that. I just need to finish the letter

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from Jodi. She has five questions about the show.

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You may not be able to answer them, but I figured

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she wrote in, we love Jodi. We love that she

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introduced us to Bose Pickles Louisiana, Louisiana

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dill Pickles at gmail .com. So here's question

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number one Why do the people of Hope Valley never

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close the door when they walk in a room? And

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I've noticed that I Don't know, you know, they

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had no air conditioning there. I mean literally

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that no AC brother number two when bill sold

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his land to Madeline They never set a price.

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He just offered to sell it and she accepted.

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Was there no money exchange? And did he just

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deed the land over to her? That was weird. That

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was weird. They did not discuss a price, maybe

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because of values back then. I don't know. But

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yeah, you're right. She's absolutely right. I

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noticed things, quirky things like that as well.

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So I'm on the same page. All right. Number three,

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what happened to Pastor Frank? He was there and

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then he wasn't. Did he go work with orphans or

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something? Okay, so here's what I do. When I'm

00:21:02.380 --> 00:21:05.339
watching a show like this, I've got my iPad on

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my lap and I'm looking up stuff. Oh, you're like

00:21:07.900 --> 00:21:10.619
Tina. Oh, man. I like to know the background.

00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:12.559
I like to know what's going on. She's looking

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up actors. She's looking up historical facts

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and she's, no, you don't have to pause it. Keep

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going. How can you even do that? All right. So

00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:21.299
you're like Tina in that regard. So the people

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that are followers of this show are called hardies.

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Yeah, when he calls the heart. And man, it's

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a culture, brother. I'm just saying. The question

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she's asking, the questions everybody's asking.

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But Pastor Frank was great because he had a great

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redemption story. He had a really hard past.

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He had been convicted and had a felony. He was

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in prison for a time. And then he was redeemed,

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radically redeemed by Jesus. And so he comes

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on the scene, great redemption story. But for

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some reason, They have different showrunners

00:21:54.890 --> 00:21:57.650
that cycle in and out of these shows, and then

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the shows will kind of take a different direction.

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You know what a showrunner is, right? Kind of

00:22:01.730 --> 00:22:06.230
the CEO of the set, he kind of oversees the direction

00:22:06.230 --> 00:22:08.970
a show is going. Well, when they hire a different

00:22:08.970 --> 00:22:11.769
showrunner or another showrunner has gone somewhere

00:22:11.769 --> 00:22:14.730
else. The shows will take a different direction.

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That's why when you watch a long series, you'll

00:22:16.750 --> 00:22:20.609
notice changes and shifts and emphases on different

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characters or different themes. And so I think

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they had a showrunner change and they wrote him

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off. He ends up going to serve a children's,

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an orphanage somewhere and falls in love with

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that as his primary ministry. So we did. Okay.

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And he gets replaced by Pastor Joseph, who's

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phenomenal. Precious, precious man. I can't wait

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to see this show now. This is already intriguing.

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You're going to get into it, bro. Number four.

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It's going to be good. Where does Henry live?

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They never say, but I do love Henry. Oh, I don't

00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:52.220
know where she's at, so I don't want to go too

00:22:52.220 --> 00:22:56.319
deep into it, but his redemptive story arc is

00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:58.960
the highlight of the show. OK, we'll leave it

00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:01.279
at that. We get to follow Henry Gowan, who starts

00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:06.680
off as a scoundrel, greedy, angry, mean, powerful.

00:23:07.150 --> 00:23:11.509
and his life goes through a major massive redemption.

00:23:12.190 --> 00:23:16.369
So his whole story arc, we're now in season 12,

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I think. And it's still going, by the way, it's

00:23:19.750 --> 00:23:22.529
still in production for season 14 right now.

00:23:23.069 --> 00:23:27.230
But his story by Hardee's is one of the most

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beloved story arcs in the whole thing. And the

00:23:29.950 --> 00:23:33.650
final question, no one ever pays a tab at Abigail's.

00:23:33.789 --> 00:23:36.190
especially when they're taking food from the

00:23:36.190 --> 00:23:40.269
kitchen. How does Minnie stay in business? I

00:23:40.269 --> 00:23:43.390
don't know. I've never seen money exchanged.

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Every once in a while, I see somebody drop something

00:23:45.549 --> 00:23:47.849
on the tables. They're heading out like Lucas

00:23:47.849 --> 00:23:51.349
or some of those guys. But yeah, that's interesting

00:23:51.349 --> 00:23:53.490
to me. I said that to Annette. I said, no one

00:23:53.490 --> 00:23:56.250
ever pays for anything. That's great. I don't

00:23:56.250 --> 00:23:58.680
know. It's that local thing, right? Beautiful

00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:02.519
show. Well worth a watch. And it will be refreshing

00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:06.920
to you because you will not hear the crap that

00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:09.019
Hollywood is putting out. Well, we actually,

00:24:09.019 --> 00:24:11.599
so we, we watched two different things that I

00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:13.279
wanted to highlight because people are always

00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:14.940
looking for something good to watch. And this

00:24:14.940 --> 00:24:19.069
was on, this was on Angel. It's called an interview

00:24:19.069 --> 00:24:21.990
with God. It's from 2018. Have you ever seen

00:24:21.990 --> 00:24:25.170
this movie? No, I haven't. Oh, man. I'm intrigued.

00:24:25.430 --> 00:24:28.069
Yeah, it's a journalist who gets a three session

00:24:28.069 --> 00:24:31.849
interview with a man who claims to be God. And

00:24:31.849 --> 00:24:35.849
I mean, the whole story is just fantastic. It's

00:24:35.849 --> 00:24:39.769
a great movie. You'll enjoy watching it. It's

00:24:39.769 --> 00:24:43.650
streaming. It's on Angel. It's Angel Guild approved.

00:24:44.269 --> 00:24:46.750
Very cool. And then the other thing since we

00:24:46.750 --> 00:24:50.269
both love period pieces was Seeking Persephone

00:24:50.269 --> 00:24:52.849
Huh, and you know the story of Persephone in

00:24:52.849 --> 00:24:55.410
Hades. I don't know if not everyone knows their

00:24:55.410 --> 00:25:00.869
Greek mythology Persephone is P -E -R -S -O -P

00:25:00.869 --> 00:25:03.710
-H -O -N -E So you look at it you go Persephone,

00:25:04.069 --> 00:25:06.769
but it's a Persephone a period piece now. This

00:25:06.769 --> 00:25:11.569
is nice It's a four -part miniseries And I think

00:25:11.569 --> 00:25:15.460
that was also an angel Fantastic. Absolutely

00:25:15.460 --> 00:25:17.700
fantastic. All right. I'm going to have to remember

00:25:17.700 --> 00:25:19.200
them. You're going to have to text those to me

00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.200
because we're always looking for something. There's

00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:24.420
not as much God in that as the obviously interview

00:25:24.420 --> 00:25:27.059
with God, but man, you want a good movie, a period

00:25:27.059 --> 00:25:31.279
piece, a beautiful love story. That's the one.

00:25:31.700 --> 00:25:35.140
It's fantastic. People are calling out for wholesome

00:25:35.140 --> 00:25:39.559
TV in movies and that's why you see the onslaught

00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:42.640
of... Christian and faith based movies and moral

00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:44.900
morality base and wholesome movies coming out

00:25:44.900 --> 00:25:47.299
right now And it's working because people are

00:25:47.299 --> 00:25:49.960
sick. Yes tired of Hollywood. We were supposed

00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.119
to have Dietrich and his wife Kelly who's the

00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:56.079
CEO of The wonder project that was supposed to

00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:57.680
come out this weekend supposed to have dinner.

00:25:57.980 --> 00:26:00.359
They had to cancel unfortunately So we'll catch

00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:02.559
them, you know back to her back from from Europe

00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:05.900
But I can't wait to hear her story since she

00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:09.240
you know, she was at YouTube Right, exactly.

00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.039
And they're both, you know, faithful people.

00:26:12.579 --> 00:26:15.019
And she's one of the founders of Angel, correct?

00:26:15.140 --> 00:26:18.339
No, Wonder Project. A Wonder Project. Yeah, they

00:26:18.339 --> 00:26:22.279
did House of David. Yes, subsidiary of Amazon?

00:26:22.900 --> 00:26:26.299
No, Amazon distributes for them. Okay, got you.

00:26:26.460 --> 00:26:28.440
It's all confusing to me. Yeah, it's a standalone.

00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:33.019
She and John Irwin, the director of House of

00:26:33.019 --> 00:26:35.839
David. One of the Irwin brothers. Yeah, so they

00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:40.269
founded this together. literally as a HBO for

00:26:40.269 --> 00:26:44.829
believers. Nice. I love it. I mean, listen, now

00:26:44.829 --> 00:26:47.369
we're watching the Hallmark series and that again,

00:26:47.509 --> 00:26:49.829
back when things were more wholesome and they've

00:26:49.829 --> 00:26:52.589
stayed with the formula. They have not ventured

00:26:52.589 --> 00:26:57.650
outside the lines on that. Right. So far. And

00:26:57.650 --> 00:26:59.670
I'm assuming it'll stay that way because I mean,

00:26:59.750 --> 00:27:02.950
this is what it has a massive following. Yeah.

00:27:03.109 --> 00:27:07.190
And the Hardys are intense. And so yeah, anyway,

00:27:07.369 --> 00:27:09.869
you'll enjoy that. And man, thanks for the suggestion

00:27:09.869 --> 00:27:12.029
for some good wholesome things to watch. Yeah.

00:27:12.130 --> 00:27:14.829
You guys got your streaming sets there. If you're

00:27:14.829 --> 00:27:17.950
sitting in the hotel in the evening, like, oh,

00:27:17.950 --> 00:27:19.369
what am I going to do? Just chill. We plan our

00:27:19.369 --> 00:27:21.930
evenings around this. We ate at six, so we can

00:27:21.930 --> 00:27:24.289
be back in the room at seven. Six? Wait, at half

00:27:24.289 --> 00:27:26.410
hour later than usual? What are you talking about?

00:27:26.470 --> 00:27:28.950
This is not AARP approved? We couldn't get a

00:27:28.950 --> 00:27:33.089
530 reservation. We had the big dinner last night

00:27:33.089 --> 00:27:37.720
at the CW. Oh, nice. A steakhouse. And it's like

00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.519
elite. It is like a, it cost a shiny penny. I'll

00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.119
bet it did. But it was worth, everybody had a

00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:49.839
16 ounce Kentucky ribeye. Amazing, amazing food.

00:27:50.299 --> 00:27:55.970
Yeah. So you were talking about, in the series

00:27:55.970 --> 00:27:59.309
how comic books came along and this would be,

00:27:59.369 --> 00:28:04.230
this is going to destroy our youth. Scandalous.

00:28:04.230 --> 00:28:08.410
Scandalous. And you correctly say that the challenges

00:28:08.410 --> 00:28:11.910
are the same. It's always, it's the, actually

00:28:11.910 --> 00:28:14.650
it's the medium that has changed throughout the

00:28:14.650 --> 00:28:16.990
years. Comic books were a whole new medium. And

00:28:16.990 --> 00:28:20.529
something came out, And this is really for parents

00:28:20.529 --> 00:28:23.670
at a bridge church and of course anyone who's

00:28:23.670 --> 00:28:25.690
listening We we do this for our church first

00:28:25.690 --> 00:28:28.309
and foremost and but anyone else is listening.

00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:32.210
You're welcome to it and we appreciate it Do

00:28:32.210 --> 00:28:35.990
you remember the Commodore 64 computer? Absolutely.

00:28:36.390 --> 00:28:39.069
So my my first actually my first first first

00:28:39.069 --> 00:28:42.210
computer was a Sinclair ZX80 at night. People

00:28:42.210 --> 00:28:45.150
can go look that up. Mine was a Tandy. Right.

00:28:45.150 --> 00:28:47.410
So you had the color computer probably, the TRS?

00:28:47.410 --> 00:28:52.369
No, monochrome. Monochrome. So the Commodore,

00:28:52.490 --> 00:28:58.150
I started with, after the ZX80, I had the VIC

00:28:58.150 --> 00:29:01.529
-20. And that was the precursor to the Commodore

00:29:01.529 --> 00:29:05.329
64. And I really learned a lot of my computing

00:29:05.329 --> 00:29:10.160
chops, understanding data and for people who

00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:13.359
don't know back in the day, you didn't have hard

00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:17.079
drives or floppy disks. You actually recorded

00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.660
computer programs on a cassette tape. Oh, wow.

00:29:21.059 --> 00:29:25.019
And so if you if you bought a program, it would

00:29:25.019 --> 00:29:28.279
come on either two ways. It would be a big ROM,

00:29:28.420 --> 00:29:31.220
like a module, like a cartridge that you stuck

00:29:31.220 --> 00:29:34.359
into the back of the computer. Or you could hook

00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:37.480
up a cassette recorder. And then you'd put the

00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.380
cassette in and the cassette would literally

00:29:39.380 --> 00:29:41.799
have tones. It sounds like an old school modem

00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:47.140
like, and then that would read into the memory

00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:49.519
and then you could load the program. And just

00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.960
as an aside, back in the day, the BBC had a computer

00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:57.759
program and I think it was Monday night at seven.

00:29:58.539 --> 00:30:02.019
They would broadcast a new computer program.

00:30:02.900 --> 00:30:05.519
That's pretty cool. So you would sit there with

00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:08.500
your cassette, you record it, and so over the

00:30:08.500 --> 00:30:10.700
air for maybe three or four minutes, all you'd

00:30:10.700 --> 00:30:14.619
hear was... You record it on the cassette and

00:30:14.619 --> 00:30:17.819
then you could play that into your computer and

00:30:17.819 --> 00:30:22.700
it would load the program. So anyway, long historical

00:30:22.700 --> 00:30:26.500
walk down memory lane. Fascinating. To get to

00:30:26.500 --> 00:30:31.559
a new device which... I've always been searching

00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:36.799
for the perfect phone, what I call the OTG, off

00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.819
the grid phone. Then I've never really been able

00:30:39.819 --> 00:30:42.980
to find the right combination. I mean, I've had

00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:47.119
the light phone, I've had flip phones, all kinds

00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:50.339
of different devices for just when I just don't

00:30:50.339 --> 00:30:54.079
want to be bothered. And it actually hampered

00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:57.420
my professional life quite a bit because it was

00:30:57.420 --> 00:31:01.099
hard for me to even participate in certain text

00:31:01.099 --> 00:31:04.380
conversations because of how Apple doesn't want

00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:07.019
to work with Android, et cetera, et cetera. And

00:31:07.019 --> 00:31:10.619
so Commodore, the company was purchased by really

00:31:10.619 --> 00:31:14.339
an enthusiast several years ago. He bought the

00:31:14.339 --> 00:31:16.619
company, which meant he was able to buy a lot

00:31:16.619 --> 00:31:20.670
of the old computer casings. via the classic

00:31:20.670 --> 00:31:26.369
Commodore 64 style and he rebuilt the whole operating

00:31:26.369 --> 00:31:32.390
system based on Linux which is very analogous

00:31:32.390 --> 00:31:35.930
to how the old computers felt and how they operated

00:31:35.930 --> 00:31:38.869
but it's very modern and it's actually quite

00:31:38.869 --> 00:31:42.039
usable and of course it plays all the old classic

00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.660
Commodore 64 games and everything. So it's a

00:31:44.660 --> 00:31:47.180
real, it's a hobbyist device, but it's, it's

00:31:47.180 --> 00:31:50.480
cool. And it's, you know, I'm actually considering

00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.640
ordering one just because it's such a cool nostalgia,

00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.720
nostalgic item, but they just came out with a

00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:02.000
phone and, and it's a, it's, it's a real phone.

00:32:02.579 --> 00:32:06.119
It's I look at this thing. It's like, it's actually

00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:09.220
cool to look at. It has a very Commodore kind

00:32:09.220 --> 00:32:13.839
of look to it. and there's the way they've set

00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:17.779
it up is well actually I have a clip here of

00:32:17.779 --> 00:32:21.299
one of the YouTube reviewers who explained shortly

00:32:21.299 --> 00:32:24.259
exactly what the big deal is about the it's called

00:32:24.259 --> 00:32:27.559
the callback the Commodore callback very weird

00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:32.059
and kind of retro it's a flip phone which runs

00:32:32.059 --> 00:32:36.720
Android but purposefully blocks web browsers

00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.740
and social media apps not that it doesn't include

00:32:39.740 --> 00:32:44.440
them It blocks them so you cannot install them.

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.680
And apparently it has a touch screen, but it's

00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.759
disabled so that you won't be tempted to use

00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:57.059
a touch screen. And it costs $550. So this thing

00:32:57.059 --> 00:33:01.079
is kind of, you know, lead us not into temptation.

00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.160
So you can load your, you know, like your, your

00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.900
messaging apps. And a lot of people use WhatsApp

00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:12.339
that's increasingly popular throughout the world

00:33:12.339 --> 00:33:16.160
just because there's no text cost to it. But

00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.579
it does text messaging. You can put, you know,

00:33:18.579 --> 00:33:22.779
if you need a navigation app or, you know, like

00:33:22.779 --> 00:33:25.400
a rideshare app, like Uber, it'll load all that

00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:28.819
fine, just standard Android, but literally blocks

00:33:28.819 --> 00:33:32.700
all social media apps and the web browser. And

00:33:32.700 --> 00:33:35.420
I'm thinking, parents, you might want to look

00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:38.779
into this. This might be the perfect device for

00:33:38.779 --> 00:33:41.720
your child who still needs to be able to communicate,

00:33:42.299 --> 00:33:44.480
still needs to be able to call and text, and

00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:45.920
you need to be able to reach him because Lord

00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.700
knows these days we have to be able to check

00:33:47.700 --> 00:33:52.559
on our kids all the time. And it has other apps

00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:56.480
that are useful and productive apps, but it literally

00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:01.039
blocks anything else. So how do you get access

00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:05.200
to this? They sell it at, I think it's Commodore

00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.079
.com. I'm not sure if that's it. So it's called

00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:11.199
Commodore phone or what? It's Commodore Callback.

00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.059
Let me see. I have it. I'm going to look it up.

00:34:13.539 --> 00:34:15.159
That's it. You got me interested. It's a good

00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:18.119
question. Commodore Callback. It might be Commodore

00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:22.400
.net. Yeah. Commodore Callback. There we go.

00:34:23.019 --> 00:34:26.219
Callback 8020? Commodore .net. Yeah. Callback

00:34:26.219 --> 00:34:30.530
8020. Exactly. It's a flip phone. Yeah, it's

00:34:30.530 --> 00:34:33.650
a flip phone. Oh, classic looking too. Isn't

00:34:33.650 --> 00:34:38.570
that awesome? Ooh, I like. I know. You look at

00:34:38.570 --> 00:34:42.369
it like, I kind of want that. So it runs 99 %

00:34:42.369 --> 00:34:45.190
of all Android apps. It's a flip phone, so it

00:34:45.190 --> 00:34:47.969
is kind of cool. You know, you can do your podcast,

00:34:48.110 --> 00:34:52.349
you can do music. It has old school and FM radio

00:34:52.349 --> 00:34:54.650
built in. All right. We haven't had one of those

00:34:54.650 --> 00:34:59.289
in a while. Does Wi -Fi. but block social media

00:34:59.289 --> 00:35:03.969
and browsers, no data selling, it's a complete

00:35:03.969 --> 00:35:08.530
open source version of Android called Sailfish,

00:35:10.389 --> 00:35:14.869
and almost no pop -ups, it has LED notifications,

00:35:15.329 --> 00:35:18.889
and you can completely go off grid with a physical

00:35:18.889 --> 00:35:22.690
privacy switch. Wow, I'm showing here, starting

00:35:22.690 --> 00:35:27.760
at $3 .99. It could be, yeah. Starting it. WhatsApp,

00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.000
SMS pre -installed, support signal, Telegram,

00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.039
WeChat, and more. Even iMessage, it says. So

00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.099
there's a way to connect your iMessage to it.

00:35:36.659 --> 00:35:39.179
At the speed of predictive, all at the speed

00:35:39.179 --> 00:35:42.480
of predictive text input. So it is, it is the

00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.900
old school way of using the keyboard, the keypad

00:35:46.900 --> 00:35:50.019
to text. But you can get pretty good at that

00:35:50.019 --> 00:35:53.119
because we were fast back in the day. So you

00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.619
can bring back your old skills. I just I just

00:35:55.619 --> 00:36:00.079
saw this I'm like, yeah, that's very cool Yeah,

00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.739
I'd give my you know, I love it they're little

00:36:02.739 --> 00:36:07.760
byline not your granny's flip Good marketing

00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:11.940
there. Yeah That was my fantastic. That was my

00:36:11.940 --> 00:36:14.500
yeah, how's the weather there by the way? Weather

00:36:14.500 --> 00:36:18.980
is hot here. Very humid. It'd be like 89 degrees

00:36:18.980 --> 00:36:23.480
and a hundred and two heat index So yeah, it's

00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:29.000
the heat, the humidity is like having a hot wet

00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:34.079
blanket on an August Texas day. As we would say

00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:42.139
in the old country, which translates to the sparrows

00:36:42.139 --> 00:36:46.969
are falling dead from the roof. Oh, that's a

00:36:46.969 --> 00:36:50.750
good one. Bro, that's a good one. I mean, literally,

00:36:50.949 --> 00:36:53.050
it's just a different kind of heat here. You

00:36:53.050 --> 00:36:54.670
know, being on the coast, it's a different kind

00:36:54.670 --> 00:36:58.570
of sun too. I mean, it'll fry you in a very short

00:36:58.570 --> 00:37:02.010
amount of time, but it's beautiful though. It's

00:37:02.010 --> 00:37:04.829
stunning. No rain this week, I think maybe a

00:37:04.829 --> 00:37:07.449
little bit tomorrow and Friday, but very little.

00:37:07.550 --> 00:37:10.550
So it's been gorgeous. We come back on Saturday.

00:37:10.650 --> 00:37:13.809
We'll get in late Saturday night. And it has

00:37:13.809 --> 00:37:17.690
been... Such a great experience. Man, I love

00:37:17.690 --> 00:37:20.809
our city. I love our town. But the truth is,

00:37:20.809 --> 00:37:23.510
if we don't get away, we can't get away. Of course

00:37:23.510 --> 00:37:25.389
not. It's one of those things. We got to get

00:37:25.389 --> 00:37:28.809
out of town. And so every year we try to get

00:37:28.809 --> 00:37:32.849
to a coast and we love Florida. So we tend to

00:37:32.849 --> 00:37:35.710
come this way. And Florida is weird for me because

00:37:35.710 --> 00:37:40.429
it feels very familiar. I don't feel no culture

00:37:40.429 --> 00:37:44.610
shock whatsoever around Florida. I feel very

00:37:44.610 --> 00:37:46.650
at home here. Not that I want to move here, just

00:37:46.650 --> 00:37:49.309
we love visiting. I don't like hurricanes. I'm

00:37:49.309 --> 00:37:51.570
sorry. I'll take tornadoes any day. Talk to Tina

00:37:51.570 --> 00:37:55.210
about that. Talk to Tina about that. She'll tell

00:37:55.210 --> 00:37:57.750
you. She lived there for many years. Yeah. I

00:37:57.750 --> 00:37:59.650
mean, it's beautiful. And the people here are

00:37:59.650 --> 00:38:02.250
very, very Southern, gracious, just very much

00:38:02.250 --> 00:38:04.409
like Texas and Tennessee. Oh, you should see

00:38:04.409 --> 00:38:07.369
the tourists who are going to World Cup in Miami.

00:38:08.550 --> 00:38:10.820
They're like, holy mo... They're like... This

00:38:10.820 --> 00:38:14.119
is, this is like the most multicultural place

00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.840
I've ever been. You know, they're going to, you're

00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:20.960
seeing all the Cuban stuff and that was wonderful.

00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:22.619
Doesn't it make you feel good though, watching

00:38:22.619 --> 00:38:26.260
these clips? It gives me such a pride in the

00:38:26.260 --> 00:38:28.579
right way. Not a weird pride, but a good pride.

00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:31.780
Patriotism. I'm proud of my country and what

00:38:31.780 --> 00:38:34.659
it also highlights for me are all the entitled

00:38:34.659 --> 00:38:37.519
people who talk bad about our nation and about

00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.920
our country. Here's the thing, let's be real.

00:38:40.600 --> 00:38:48.000
presidents, different cabinets, different red,

00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.420
blue, whatever, they come and go. And we need

00:38:51.420 --> 00:38:54.659
to get over who's in office right now and get

00:38:54.659 --> 00:38:59.320
back to our local level, our local life. We get

00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:02.099
so spun up, and thanks to news media and social

00:39:02.099 --> 00:39:04.920
media about what's going on in Washington, when

00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.039
we need to be focused on what's right in front

00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.380
of us. Now, that's not to be ignorant of, we

00:39:09.380 --> 00:39:12.559
need to be praying for. But we've got to get

00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:16.099
people with their eyes back on their own terra

00:39:16.099 --> 00:39:19.150
firma, right where they live. and be involved

00:39:19.150 --> 00:39:22.349
in that and quit over worrying about the world

00:39:22.349 --> 00:39:25.829
scene. And because of social media and because

00:39:25.829 --> 00:39:28.130
of these bricks, by the way, I wanted to say

00:39:28.130 --> 00:39:32.750
this on the show. I've never seen more men sitting

00:39:32.750 --> 00:39:36.210
with their wives at a pool, at a restaurant that

00:39:36.210 --> 00:39:38.510
all are on their phone. I want to go take it

00:39:38.510 --> 00:39:40.949
out of some guy's hands. I've been leaving my

00:39:40.949 --> 00:39:44.039
phone in my room in the safe. So I don't have

00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.579
to see it. And praise God, what I love about

00:39:46.579 --> 00:39:48.559
our church, they're so good. When they know we're

00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:51.559
gone, they don't text us. They don't mess with

00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:55.019
us. Our people are wonderful. But I see these

00:39:55.019 --> 00:39:58.980
men at breakfast, three kids losing their minds.

00:39:59.099 --> 00:40:01.500
Mama's over there trying to control them. And

00:40:01.500 --> 00:40:04.280
they're on their phone and cannot put it down.

00:40:04.340 --> 00:40:05.980
I want to go over and grab it out of his hand

00:40:05.980 --> 00:40:08.920
and say, what really matters is sitting right

00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:12.829
here. Oh, they're, you know, they're moving,

00:40:13.010 --> 00:40:14.829
shaking, you know, doing business or they're

00:40:14.829 --> 00:40:17.510
watching the next soccer game or whatever. But

00:40:17.510 --> 00:40:20.909
it's like, it has really, I've noticed it on

00:40:20.909 --> 00:40:24.170
this trip more than any because this is a really

00:40:24.170 --> 00:40:26.809
a getaway resort. You're on an island and it's

00:40:26.809 --> 00:40:31.849
like, there is no excuse for being on your phone

00:40:31.849 --> 00:40:35.070
24 seven here. This is where you put it away

00:40:35.070 --> 00:40:38.570
and just go about. trying to have fun. It took

00:40:38.570 --> 00:40:41.530
me a couple of days to unplug, to wind down once

00:40:41.530 --> 00:40:44.289
I got here, but man, I'm in full relaxed mode

00:40:44.289 --> 00:40:47.210
now. I was having a conversation with my buddy,

00:40:47.429 --> 00:40:51.090
Dave Jones. We do the Podcasting 2 .0 podcast.

00:40:53.030 --> 00:40:56.570
The Podcasting 2 .0 is an open source, open group,

00:40:56.969 --> 00:41:02.739
and we kind of came together to improve podcasting.

00:41:02.860 --> 00:41:05.159
And part of that was by creating an independent

00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:09.019
index that so that no one really owns podcasting

00:41:09.019 --> 00:41:11.900
and anybody could develop an app. And it's like

00:41:11.900 --> 00:41:15.619
190 apps are now out there then. Yeah, this some

00:41:15.619 --> 00:41:18.940
are very small. You'd be amazed how many people

00:41:18.940 --> 00:41:22.579
in South America use what is that thing called

00:41:22.579 --> 00:41:28.079
pod two? It's a very small podcast app that fits

00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:32.929
on Flip phones and smaller cheap devices Africans

00:41:32.929 --> 00:41:35.369
a lot of Africans use it as well and that all

00:41:35.369 --> 00:41:38.070
connects to the index You know people can't just

00:41:38.070 --> 00:41:42.269
easily use an iPhone for the cause And so they

00:41:42.269 --> 00:41:44.030
have these different kind of flaws, but that's

00:41:44.030 --> 00:41:47.369
beside the point So this group is it's ad hoc

00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:50.590
and we do a podcast and the podcast we do once

00:41:50.590 --> 00:41:53.719
a week And it's very interactive because we have

00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.420
a live chat room. We record it live and we call

00:41:56.420 --> 00:41:58.159
it the board meeting. We're just talking about

00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.440
whatever's going on in the group. And through

00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.360
this, you see transcripts in your podcast that

00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:05.579
comes from us. You see chapters in your podcast

00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:08.300
that comes from us. There's a whole bunch of

00:42:08.300 --> 00:42:10.820
improvements that we've created that now are

00:42:10.820 --> 00:42:14.440
being adopted by this whole quote unquote industry.

00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:22.230
And so we have a mastodon, a closed Macedon server,

00:42:22.289 --> 00:42:24.030
which is kind of like a social network, but it

00:42:24.030 --> 00:42:25.949
doesn't, there's no algo. So it doesn't really

00:42:25.949 --> 00:42:30.090
behave like a, like Facebook or Instagram or

00:42:30.090 --> 00:42:34.170
X. Um, but then there's technical discussions

00:42:34.170 --> 00:42:37.789
take place on something called GitHub and GitHub

00:42:37.789 --> 00:42:41.110
is literally where you publish code. People can

00:42:41.110 --> 00:42:44.030
say, Hey, I want to add some code, take a look.

00:42:44.110 --> 00:42:46.329
It's called a PR, a pull request. You can take

00:42:46.329 --> 00:42:49.900
a look at this code, merge it in. But then there's

00:42:49.900 --> 00:42:53.219
also discussions so someone will have a proposal

00:42:53.219 --> 00:42:55.639
in this case. It was doesn't even matter what

00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:01.360
it was for but The github discussions it's kind

00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.119
of like a forum almost like reddit I should say

00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.719
where you have someone proposes something and

00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.699
then there's a hundred and fifty comments below

00:43:09.699 --> 00:43:13.539
and people are quoting another person and This

00:43:13.539 --> 00:43:16.019
thing it always I don't care what project it

00:43:16.019 --> 00:43:19.849
is github discussions about code Always get heated.

00:43:20.469 --> 00:43:24.449
Always. And Dave, who was part of my faith journey,

00:43:24.750 --> 00:43:29.809
is the most loving, kind, calm man I know. You

00:43:29.809 --> 00:43:34.429
and he are kind of equal in that regard. And

00:43:34.429 --> 00:43:38.650
he was getting upset. And we talked about this.

00:43:38.929 --> 00:43:43.369
And he says, you know, I realized that... And

00:43:43.369 --> 00:43:46.449
he actually is also kind of a hack philosopher.

00:43:46.989 --> 00:43:49.739
He was... telling me about this book he was reading

00:43:49.739 --> 00:43:52.880
with right brain left brain and there's a lot

00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:56.320
of talk about that and and these days we use

00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:59.519
a lot of our left brain which is really controlled

00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:03.059
um controls the right side of your body so your

00:44:03.059 --> 00:44:05.219
right eye what you see with your right eye right

00:44:05.219 --> 00:44:08.340
and you know the feeds into your left brain and

00:44:08.340 --> 00:44:11.820
left brain is analytical and you know it's it

00:44:11.820 --> 00:44:14.079
controls a lot of other things like your amygdala

00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.320
and how upset you get or how you analyze things.

00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:20.460
And the right brain is kind of the loving creative

00:44:20.460 --> 00:44:23.739
half. I'm really cutting corners here on this.

00:44:26.019 --> 00:44:28.360
And he said that he read that sparrows, I think

00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.719
it was sparrows, when they're like picking seeds

00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:34.920
off of the ground, one eye is focused solely

00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.460
on the food and the other eye is looking out

00:44:37.460 --> 00:44:41.179
for predators. Whoa. And as we're talking about

00:44:41.179 --> 00:44:44.179
this, we realize that what happens is, us humans,

00:44:44.420 --> 00:44:46.920
we focus both eyes, we're probably the right

00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:49.900
eye more than the other. And what you're seeing

00:44:49.900 --> 00:44:52.900
on your screen, and it's even worse on your phone,

00:44:53.300 --> 00:44:56.440
at that moment, what is happening right there,

00:44:56.460 --> 00:44:59.019
and you can feel this, next time you look at

00:44:59.019 --> 00:45:02.159
your phone, look at a newsfeed, that is at that

00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.039
very moment, your entire world. That's why the

00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:08.070
fathers you see, They're locked out. They're

00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:12.190
not seeing anything. We don't have the sparrow

00:45:12.190 --> 00:45:14.869
capability to have one eye on what's going on

00:45:14.869 --> 00:45:18.690
around me. Like, are my kids in danger? Is my

00:45:18.690 --> 00:45:20.710
wife getting frustrated? There's none of that.

00:45:20.989 --> 00:45:24.570
We are focused and that literally becomes your

00:45:24.570 --> 00:45:29.969
world. And so then, now you see why people respond

00:45:29.969 --> 00:45:32.449
the way they respond because the whole world

00:45:32.449 --> 00:45:37.539
is tuned out. Wow. Now, I had a solution to this,

00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.000
which is you should just cover your left eye

00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.780
when reading anything so then your right brain

00:45:44.780 --> 00:45:46.940
kicks in, you'll have love and better normal

00:45:46.940 --> 00:45:49.800
emotions. Does that work? No, it doesn't really

00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:54.079
work. But it just dawned on me that that is what's

00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:55.780
happening. We used to have this, we call them

00:45:55.780 --> 00:45:59.079
TV junkies, you know, Willy Wonka famously had

00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.820
TV mic. And our parents would tell us, you better

00:46:02.820 --> 00:46:04.739
not sit in front of that TV, your brain's going

00:46:04.739 --> 00:46:08.840
to rot. But we were mesmerized, hypnotized. And

00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:11.699
then the remote control came along. Oh man, if

00:46:11.699 --> 00:46:14.380
I'm bored for two seconds, I can zap over to

00:46:14.380 --> 00:46:17.949
something else. It is the same mechanism. but

00:46:17.949 --> 00:46:20.949
it becomes your world. We've got to be on the

00:46:20.949 --> 00:46:23.929
lookout for something like that. Becoming your

00:46:23.929 --> 00:46:26.690
world because literally you don't see that your

00:46:26.690 --> 00:46:29.750
wife is frustrated, your kids are mucking about,

00:46:29.849 --> 00:46:33.090
they're giving her a hard time, they're not settled.

00:46:34.829 --> 00:46:38.030
The awareness is really what helps me every single

00:46:38.030 --> 00:46:41.269
time. Just the awareness of, oh wow, I'm sucked

00:46:41.269 --> 00:46:45.070
in, I'm focused. That's why we all have that.

00:46:45.150 --> 00:46:47.619
You say something to your spouse and then they

00:46:47.619 --> 00:46:52.320
respond seven seconds later. Because it takes

00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.119
that long to process, to get through all the

00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.480
synapses for them to process, hey, wait a minute,

00:46:57.780 --> 00:47:00.000
someone outside of this world that I'm in is

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:03.340
talking to me. Wow. You've really hit on something

00:47:03.340 --> 00:47:06.380
here. I mean, even as you were speaking, I was

00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:09.340
thinking how one of the reasons I've been able

00:47:09.340 --> 00:47:12.500
to relax so much is I've put my phone away. I

00:47:12.500 --> 00:47:14.460
just haven't been messing with it. I'm doing

00:47:14.460 --> 00:47:16.860
these little simple daily grinds that don't require

00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:19.119
anything other than putting together a little

00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.760
graphic and sending it out. So I'm not drilling

00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.519
in and going, okay, what are people going to

00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:27.300
like? What's going to help somebody? You know,

00:47:27.300 --> 00:47:30.639
I've been able to kind of check out and what

00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.619
I've become very aware of is my environment.

00:47:34.269 --> 00:47:37.289
I'm looking at the ocean. I'm looking or we're

00:47:37.289 --> 00:47:40.730
at the pool and just watching kids have a blast

00:47:40.730 --> 00:47:43.449
and be kids. That's refreshing right there. Just

00:47:43.449 --> 00:47:45.869
seeing kids throwing a Nerf football, you know,

00:47:45.949 --> 00:47:47.889
across the pool and having a big time, you know,

00:47:47.929 --> 00:47:51.170
or a tennis ball. And listen to this out of Proverbs

00:47:51.170 --> 00:47:55.210
425. Let your eyes look directly forward and

00:47:55.210 --> 00:47:59.110
your gaze be straight before you. And then in

00:47:59.110 --> 00:48:03.070
Psalm 119, turn my eyes from looking at worthless

00:48:03.070 --> 00:48:07.769
things and give me life in your ways. There is

00:48:07.769 --> 00:48:11.469
a lot of scripture about what we're looking at

00:48:11.469 --> 00:48:14.769
and where we put our, what we gaze upon. I've

00:48:14.769 --> 00:48:17.539
always said, you become what you behold. Yep.

00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:20.480
And it's just this idea that whatever you're

00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.940
setting your eyes on is also going into your

00:48:22.940 --> 00:48:25.179
mind and it's transforming you, whether you think

00:48:25.179 --> 00:48:28.079
it is or not. Now, neurologists are proving what

00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:31.519
the Bible said all along on these issues, right?

00:48:31.980 --> 00:48:35.000
Neurology is fascinating to me because it actually

00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.659
confirms and affirms so much of what the Bible

00:48:37.659 --> 00:48:41.119
teaches. And this is one of those where we're

00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:45.079
actually rewiring our brains as we're so focused

00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.380
on this one little screen in our hand. It's literally,

00:48:49.380 --> 00:48:52.340
we're rewiring our brains. We're training ourselves

00:48:52.340 --> 00:48:56.639
to 144 plus characters, you know, where we can't

00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:59.199
hardly read a book. We can't read anything long

00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.739
form anymore. And I know I found myself, if there's

00:49:02.739 --> 00:49:05.260
something that's too long, that's why I've enjoyed

00:49:05.260 --> 00:49:07.519
going back to Substack, because there's some

00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.360
long form things in there and I am forcing myself

00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:14.880
to read them. because I want to retrain my brain

00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.820
to have long span attention and long form attention

00:49:17.820 --> 00:49:21.139
as opposed to just short term. And it's helping

00:49:21.139 --> 00:49:24.000
me and it's helping me think different too. And

00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.159
I'm finding I'm more at peace and more at rest.

00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:28.840
I keep asking Annette, so did anything blow up

00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:32.420
today? I mean, I'm just not looking. In fact,

00:49:32.500 --> 00:49:34.260
Annette said, what are you and Adam going to

00:49:34.260 --> 00:49:35.679
talk about? You don't even know what's going

00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.239
on. I said, I know, I'm just going to bring scripture.

00:49:38.980 --> 00:49:41.460
He's going to bring the issues. I'm going to

00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:43.960
find a biblical worldview towards it. It's easy

00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:48.500
for me. Well, as predicted, it looks like the

00:49:48.500 --> 00:49:54.099
war is over. Gas prices are falling down drastically

00:49:54.099 --> 00:49:56.739
every single day. It will be a good Fourth of

00:49:56.739 --> 00:49:58.940
July celebration. I'm quite confident of it.

00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.360
Just like you called the ball on that one. He

00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.219
said he will get it done one way or another,

00:50:04.460 --> 00:50:06.099
whether all the terms or whatever everybody's

00:50:06.099 --> 00:50:08.230
liking, because all I've been reading is how

00:50:08.230 --> 00:50:12.949
mad everybody is. We can't just say, hey, but

00:50:12.949 --> 00:50:17.329
we're not firing bombs right now. Ultimately,

00:50:18.250 --> 00:50:20.250
what we care about is the price of gas. That's

00:50:20.250 --> 00:50:23.989
the American way. That is the metric. That's

00:50:23.989 --> 00:50:25.889
what you talk about at the cookout, man. You

00:50:25.889 --> 00:50:28.989
believe those gas prices? Yeah. That's Annette's

00:50:28.989 --> 00:50:30.809
first thing. That's the first thing she notices.

00:50:31.010 --> 00:50:34.059
She's, oh, look. Gas is down another 15 cents.

00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.380
I'm like, honey, you have an electric car. Why

00:50:36.380 --> 00:50:42.579
does it matter? It's amazing. Tina, she's like,

00:50:42.699 --> 00:50:47.219
it cost me over 50 bucks two months ago. 50 bucks

00:50:47.219 --> 00:50:52.139
to fill it up. I'm like, it's okay. I know it's

00:50:52.139 --> 00:50:55.679
expensive, but that particular expense is not

00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.769
going to break us. We're okay there, but she

00:50:58.769 --> 00:51:01.250
still gets really mad. I mean, that's the Indiana

00:51:01.250 --> 00:51:05.849
girl still going, this is no good. Outrage. And

00:51:05.849 --> 00:51:08.389
so the inverse has happened. It's like, wow,

00:51:08.590 --> 00:51:13.210
it was like $4 .29. It was almost under $4 and

00:51:13.210 --> 00:51:18.889
she's really happy. But this is good. And what

00:51:18.889 --> 00:51:22.210
you're seeing on social media people, it's probably

00:51:22.210 --> 00:51:25.840
8 % of our entire country who's on there. It's

00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.840
not everybody. It's not everybody. Not everybody

00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.239
cares. Not everybody is as spun up as you think

00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.099
they are. That's right. There are some people

00:51:33.099 --> 00:51:35.019
that are actually grateful in this world that

00:51:35.019 --> 00:51:37.699
they have a car to drive. Amen to that, brother.

00:51:37.860 --> 00:51:42.300
Yes. Hey, can I land the plane with this bite

00:51:42.300 --> 00:51:44.480
your tongue and read this thing that I did last

00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:45.880
week? Yes, please do. I think it's one of these

00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:48.780
things we need to keep in front of us, especially

00:51:48.780 --> 00:51:52.260
in these times when the news just keeps trying

00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:55.519
to spin us up. Let's spin down with this. You

00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:57.920
complain about traffic because you have a car.

00:51:58.340 --> 00:52:01.039
You complain about laundry because you have clothes.

00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:04.760
You complain about dishes because you ate. You

00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:07.300
complain about packing because you get to travel.

00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.340
You complain about taxes because you earned.

00:52:10.780 --> 00:52:13.280
You complain about your job because you have

00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:16.239
one. You complain about a full inbox because

00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:19.619
people need you. You complain about noise because

00:52:19.619 --> 00:52:22.860
you have a family. You complain about exercise

00:52:22.860 --> 00:52:26.219
because your body moves. You complain about wrinkles

00:52:26.219 --> 00:52:29.719
because you lived. You complain about gray hair

00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.980
because you made it this far. You complain about

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:36.500
change because you're growing. And listen, I

00:52:36.500 --> 00:52:40.420
agree with Mr. Adam Curry that we need to put

00:52:40.420 --> 00:52:44.829
down our phones and pick up our Bibles. Put down

00:52:44.829 --> 00:52:47.369
your screens and pick up your Bibles. Yes. Scripture

00:52:47.369 --> 00:52:50.570
before screens in all cases. Amen, brother. Brother,

00:52:50.769 --> 00:52:54.690
enjoy the rest of your vacation. Just have a

00:52:54.690 --> 00:52:57.349
great time. Thanks. And we look forward to having

00:52:57.349 --> 00:52:59.889
you back home and back in our church too. We

00:52:59.889 --> 00:53:02.449
miss you. Hey, one quick shout out to my church

00:53:02.449 --> 00:53:05.469
family. Listen, don't think we're out here, woo

00:53:05.469 --> 00:53:08.050
-hoo, we're out here going. Good night, we miss

00:53:08.050 --> 00:53:11.630
our church. We miss our family. So just know

00:53:11.630 --> 00:53:14.250
you're missed and you're loved, and I can't wait

00:53:14.250 --> 00:53:17.670
to be back, but also so thankful that we get

00:53:17.670 --> 00:53:21.769
this time away. It's such a gift. And we pack

00:53:21.769 --> 00:53:23.949
because we get to travel. That's right, brother.

00:53:24.010 --> 00:53:26.630
We'll see you next week, everybody. We get to

00:53:26.630 --> 00:53:38.849
do this and we love it. The chance we did not

00:53:38.849 --> 00:53:43.949
miss This is the life we get to do this