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July 13, 2023

The Audition Dilemma: Embracing Self-Tapes and Virtual Casting

The Audition Dilemma: Embracing Self-Tapes and Virtual Casting

Today, we'll examine how the audition process has transitioned from in-person sessions to self-tapes in the post-COVID world. Additionally, we'll provide a brief overview of "The Righteous Gemstones," a show featuring John Goodman and the exceptional...

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Green Room On Air with Ray Renati

Today, we'll examine how the audition process has transitioned from in-person sessions to self-tapes in the post-COVID world. Additionally, we'll provide a brief overview of "The Righteous Gemstones," a show featuring John Goodman and the exceptionally funny Edi Patterson.
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1 00:00:00,270 --> 00:00:01,320 Green Room on Air. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:02,510 Green Room on Air. 3 00:00:02,650 --> 00:00:09,990 The podcast ISL Parts of the Inter World. 4 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:13,440 Hello everybody. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,410 You have reached Green Room on Air, and I'm your host, Ray Reti. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,410 How are you doing today? I hope you're doing great. 7 00:00:19,740 --> 00:00:20,400 I'm doing good. 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,370 I had a little visit to the emergency room last night. 9 00:00:24,370 --> 00:00:27,070 I've had some fatigue and I went to the doctor. 10 00:00:27,775 --> 00:00:38,485 She had me do some blood tests and I'm in Costco yesterday evening around seven 30 shopping for some produce and thanks Whole Foods, of course. 11 00:00:39,205 --> 00:00:42,710 And I get a call from my doctor, go to the emergency room right away. 12 00:00:44,540 --> 00:00:45,920 There's something wrong with your kidney. 13 00:00:47,510 --> 00:00:50,810 Okay? So I go trying to keep calm. 14 00:00:51,770 --> 00:00:53,630 I'm there for three hours doing all the tests. 15 00:00:53,630 --> 00:00:54,530 Nothing wrong with me. 16 00:00:55,730 --> 00:00:58,340 Doctor tells me, well she shouldn't have really sent you here. 17 00:00:58,340 --> 00:01:00,680 It really wasn't bad. 18 00:01:04,460 --> 00:01:09,680 So now I'm pooped cuz last night I spent in the emergency room, but I'm here. 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:19,820 You know when you get in your sixties, they start, they suddenly start all the doctors your doctors suddenly start getting very cautious. 20 00:01:19,820 --> 00:01:26,165 I noticed anytime you have a little complaint, man, they're like, All right, we're doing all the tests. 21 00:01:26,165 --> 00:01:27,905 We're sending you an emergency room. 22 00:01:28,205 --> 00:01:31,295 We're gonna scan you here, we're gonna scan you there. 23 00:01:31,295 --> 00:01:37,945 We're gonna stick stuff up that hole in this hole and make sure you're road ready. 24 00:01:41,935 --> 00:01:47,995 You know, today, I don't have a guess, but I wanted to talk about how auditions have changed since Covid. 25 00:01:48,685 --> 00:01:49,555 It's incredible. 26 00:01:49,885 --> 00:01:55,960 For those of you who aren't actors, Normally you have you have three kinds of auditions basically. 27 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,300 Of course, there are others, but basically you have three. 28 00:01:59,620 --> 00:02:06,370 You have a theater audition, which is either musical theater and or a straight play, which means no music. 29 00:02:07,180 --> 00:02:14,410 You have a com, a commercial audition for a TV commercial, and you have a TV or film audition. 30 00:02:15,940 --> 00:02:21,730 Now, it used to be, That you'd head down to your casting director. 31 00:02:22,540 --> 00:02:27,100 Your agent would send you to your casting director, and you'd you'd do your audition there. 32 00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:30,870 And it would either be well for TV and, and film and commercials. 33 00:02:30,870 --> 00:02:37,620 You usually just had some sides, which means some lines that you had to do and you prepared for those before you went usually. 34 00:02:39,060 --> 00:02:45,900 And then you went home and you waited, and maybe you got called back for another audition and maybe you didn't for theater. 35 00:02:46,620 --> 00:02:57,840 Usually you'd have to do a monologue and or a song, or sometimes they would just give you a script that is usually way longer than you'd get for a movie or commercial or tv. 36 00:02:58,740 --> 00:03:02,190 And you'd do a cold reading sometimes with a reader behind a desk. 37 00:03:02,190 --> 00:03:04,890 Usually for equity theater, it's just a stage manager. 38 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:14,320 And then often, for whatever reason, I'm not sure with non-equity, non-professional theater, you'd, you'd read with the other actors. 39 00:03:15,775 --> 00:03:19,645 And of course that's not a steadfast rule, but that's the way it was done. 40 00:03:19,975 --> 00:03:22,525 And then you'd go home and you'd wait to see if you got a callback. 41 00:03:24,295 --> 00:03:30,235 Lo and behold, we had Covid our favorite little menace. 42 00:03:31,945 --> 00:03:43,495 Well, no longer could people go in in person to audition because you might spread yield plague to your yield actor friends, and you wouldn't wanna do that. 43 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:52,950 And they wouldn't let you anyway and or you'd have to audition with a mask on, which happened sometimes later, but not always. 44 00:03:54,390 --> 00:04:00,090 So what evolved was something that happened once in a while before and now became the rule. 45 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:09,420 This self tape, it's not a tape of course, although it's still called a tape, the self tape. 46 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,810 It's called a tape because back in the olden days, that's, that's how you recorded stuff on tape. 47 00:04:16,140 --> 00:04:31,260 For those of you who are under what, I don't know, 40, and it has become an industry in, in and of itself, there are a myriad of people who will teach you how to make great self tapes. 48 00:04:32,130 --> 00:04:40,440 So that you can send them in and hopefully get a call back or get cast in your favorite show, TV show or movie or commercial or play. 49 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:50,220 The thing is, and here's the thing, and almost every actor I've talked to hates this. 50 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:53,580 It used to be that all you had to do was act. 51 00:04:54,270 --> 00:04:56,550 You learned your lines as best you could. 52 00:04:57,900 --> 00:04:58,980 You made choices. 53 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:00,870 You went in and you acted. 54 00:05:01,575 --> 00:05:02,505 And you went home. 55 00:05:03,045 --> 00:05:11,595 Now you have to have equipment and they tell you, oh, it doesn't matter that much, you know, just to make sure it looks professional and all. 56 00:05:11,595 --> 00:05:27,975 But the thing is, if somebody else has great lighting and, and a good camera and a great backdrop and you don't have that, you're gonna be, even if you're acting is great, you, you're, you're, you're one step behind the eight ball folks. 57 00:05:28,950 --> 00:05:35,100 So you have to be actor, producer, director, lighting designer, editor. 58 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:36,480 Yeah. 59 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,510 Or you can pay somebody to do this for you. 60 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:46,620 And believe me, there are tons of money who, people who will now take your money to help you do your self-tape auditions. 61 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,120 It's an art in and of itself. 62 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:53,370 I have a setup now. 63 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,080 I have a couple different backdrops. 64 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,000 I have a couple different frames. 65 00:05:57,030 --> 00:05:59,880 I have a blue backdrop, which I use most of the time. 66 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,230 I have a tan backdrop. 67 00:06:02,340 --> 00:06:10,480 I have a my, my mirrorless Nikon camera because I'm a photographer, but you can use an iPhone in that iPhones. 68 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:16,240 Now, God, they, they shoot in super high resolution, so they work great. 69 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:25,045 The only problem with it, it's a little harder to get the video off the iPhone than it is on a regular camera, but, People are figuring that out. 70 00:06:25,105 --> 00:06:30,835 There's even apps now, there are even apps for doing auditions on your phone specifically. 71 00:06:31,555 --> 00:06:36,205 I bought lighting for video, which I didn't have. 72 00:06:36,855 --> 00:06:38,575 I, I have a tripod. 73 00:06:38,575 --> 00:06:41,725 I have a couple of different shotgun mics. 74 00:06:42,115 --> 00:06:47,225 I have wireless mics that pin and hide on your body. 75 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:57,870 I've had to invest quite a bit of money and and still with all that, I have never made the perfect audition tape. 76 00:06:59,670 --> 00:07:01,140 I just did one today. 77 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:06,610 I even have now I even now have now a teleprompter on my laptop. 78 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:23,410 So it looks like I know the lines if I don't know them, because sometimes, It's just too many to learn, and then you have to hold the script in your hand and then you're constantly looking down and trying to not, and it gets very cumbersome. 79 00:07:23,410 --> 00:07:27,070 With the movie, usually the lines aren't that long, so you can pretty much memorize 'em. 80 00:07:27,070 --> 00:07:45,280 But if you're auditioning for a play and they give you like five pages and you have to do it with a reader who's behind the camera, like my wife, Well, I either ho have to hold the script in my hand and, and try to relate to her or use my teleprompter, which is out there. 81 00:07:46,450 --> 00:07:47,560 So that's what I've been doing. 82 00:07:48,340 --> 00:07:50,140 I'm sure they realize I don't have it memorized. 83 00:07:50,145 --> 00:07:52,150 They probably realize I have the lines out there somewhere. 84 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:55,720 But today I did one for a play. 85 00:07:55,810 --> 00:08:01,090 I won't say what or where cuz I'd like to get the part and I don't wanna jeopardize that. 86 00:08:02,530 --> 00:08:03,730 But I go through the whole thing. 87 00:08:04,885 --> 00:08:09,215 And I was gonna have it done yesterday, but as I said before, I ended up going to the emergency room. 88 00:08:09,215 --> 00:08:13,055 So I had to wake up super early this morning after going to bed extremely late. 89 00:08:13,055 --> 00:08:15,095 So I have almost no sleep and I'm about to pass out. 90 00:08:15,095 --> 00:08:23,785 But right now, actually so I, I did this audition today and I put on a green shirt and I did the audition. 91 00:08:25,150 --> 00:08:26,590 And it was pretty good. 92 00:08:26,590 --> 00:08:30,550 I mean, there were things I could have done way better, but yeah, it was, overall I was happy with it. 93 00:08:30,730 --> 00:08:36,370 The only problem is the left shot of my shirt was all wrinkled and I couldn't see that when I put it on. 94 00:08:36,580 --> 00:08:40,990 My wife said she saw it, but she didn't wanna say anything, which is weird because she always says something. 95 00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:42,820 I guess she knew I was in a hurry. 96 00:08:44,740 --> 00:08:49,180 And so now when I watch the audition video that I sent in, all I can see is my wrinkle shirt. 97 00:08:49,390 --> 00:08:50,170 That's all I see. 98 00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:51,490 My wrinkle shirt. 99 00:08:57,490 --> 00:08:57,760 Oh yeah. 100 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,710 So you also have to be a wardrobe person. 101 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:00,280 There you go. 102 00:09:02,380 --> 00:09:09,160 Well, you always had to kind of do that, but you know now it, now it just adds on to all the other things you gotta do. 103 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:20,560 Actor, director, producer, editor, lighting, designers, sound designer, wardrobe person, hair, makeup, you're everything. 104 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,480 And it's taken a lot of burden off of pro producers and casting directors. 105 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,500 I mean, you do all the work now, they just sit there and watch it on their computer screen. 106 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:36,920 And so now, even though they don't have to do it that way, some of 'em are still doing it that way. 107 00:09:39,860 --> 00:09:49,010 It's becoming the norm in, in some cases, I hope it goes back to the in-person stuff so that I can just act. 108 00:09:50,165 --> 00:09:53,165 Concentrate on that, but I don't know. 109 00:09:53,225 --> 00:10:00,275 The world has changed quite a bit and it keeps changing and I ain't getting any younger. 110 00:10:03,215 --> 00:10:03,785 Yeah. 111 00:10:05,765 --> 00:10:05,915 Yeah. 112 00:10:05,915 --> 00:10:16,295 When you're in your sixties and you're in a profession and the profession changes and you feel like you're kind of getting slowly pushed out of it because of your age and. 113 00:10:16,865 --> 00:10:38,795 Now because of maybe your gender or your race cuz of diversity, which I'm all for, not against diversity, but the problem is kind of leaves me out of a lot of stuff now and that's neither here nor there, but it means what do I do? You know? So I have to think of new ways to keep doing what I'm doing or do something else. 114 00:10:40,595 --> 00:10:41,165 Yeah. 115 00:10:42,185 --> 00:10:43,535 So the industry. 116 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:58,550 For actors in terms of auditioning, has made a huge, huge shift and I don't think most people are aware of that, nor do maybe they care. 117 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:02,960 I don't know. 118 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,100 But I just wanted to educate you and let you know what's been going on. 119 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,680 Cause I think it's kind of interesting myself. 120 00:11:10,820 --> 00:11:11,390 I do. 121 00:11:13,745 --> 00:11:19,055 What else is going? I've been watching the Righteous Gemstones on H B O. 122 00:11:20,075 --> 00:11:20,405 Wow. 123 00:11:20,405 --> 00:11:22,415 What a f what a fun show. 124 00:11:23,865 --> 00:11:25,245 I'm on season two now. 125 00:11:28,665 --> 00:11:32,735 The Righteous gemstones stars. 126 00:11:33,905 --> 00:11:39,305 John Goodman, Danny McBride, Adam Devine. 127 00:11:40,010 --> 00:11:53,080 Edie Pearson, Cassidy Freeman, and well, we all know John Goodman is, is great, right? Most of you may know him from Roseanne or the Big Lebowski. 128 00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:58,750 Danny McBride is, is Danny McBride. 129 00:11:58,750 --> 00:12:04,180 He writes his shows the way he writes 'em, and you know, it's a Danny McBride show and it's. 130 00:12:04,765 --> 00:12:07,765 Dark, sarcastic comedy, and that's what this is. 131 00:12:07,765 --> 00:12:11,355 They're a family of modern day preachers. 132 00:12:12,405 --> 00:12:15,555 And they're basically horrible people. 133 00:12:17,445 --> 00:12:21,315 But I would like to talk about Ededie Patterson, not Edie Peterson. 134 00:12:21,405 --> 00:12:28,905 Ededie Patterson is the most, one of the most hilarious people I have ever seen on television. 135 00:12:31,095 --> 00:12:33,345 You just gotta just watch it for her. 136 00:12:33,375 --> 00:12:36,165 She is so damn funny. 137 00:12:36,375 --> 00:12:37,845 It's amazing. 138 00:12:38,325 --> 00:12:43,395 And then if you watch her interviewed, she's completely different than the character she plays. 139 00:12:44,025 --> 00:12:44,865 I just love it. 140 00:12:44,925 --> 00:12:47,325 She has a huge background in improv. 141 00:12:47,325 --> 00:12:56,055 She's a member of the the Groundlings, which is a very famous improv company. 142 00:12:56,655 --> 00:13:01,275 She's a main member there and she performs there still apparently. 143 00:13:01,605 --> 00:13:03,585 So she's just great. 144 00:13:03,795 --> 00:13:04,455 She's just great. 145 00:13:04,460 --> 00:13:08,205 And I love the show, so if you get a chance, check it out. 146 00:13:09,915 --> 00:13:10,515 Check it out. 147 00:13:10,545 --> 00:13:12,215 It's called it's the exact title. 148 00:13:12,215 --> 00:13:13,295 I wanna make sure I got it right. 149 00:13:14,345 --> 00:13:16,055 The Righteous Gemstones. 150 00:13:16,085 --> 00:13:22,445 It's on H B O or I guess if you don't have H B O through like Comcast. 151 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:27,830 You have to get it on Max, which is also H B O. 152 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:37,490 I don't understand why HBO O Max, which is the subscription streaming version of HBO, changed their name to Max. 153 00:13:37,490 --> 00:13:42,350 I have no idea why they did that, but they did. 154 00:13:42,350 --> 00:13:45,440 It was somebody's brilliant idea in corporate. 155 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,110 All right, folks, that's my show for today. 156 00:13:51,740 --> 00:13:52,760 Hope you enjoyed it. 157 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,520 Keep keep on trucking. 158 00:13:58,850 --> 00:14:00,200 Don't stop trucking. 159 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,270 And until next time, I will see you on the boards. 160 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:10,640 And don't forget, if you love this show Iterating on Po Apple Podcast. 161 00:14:11,090 --> 00:14:13,490 Tell your friends, tell your enemies. 162 00:14:14,390 --> 00:14:19,340 And if you, if you wanna get ahold of me, send me an email at Green Room on air gmail.com. 163 00:14:19,730 --> 00:14:20,330 All righty folks. 164 00:14:21,155 --> 00:14:23,885 As I said, until next time, I will see you on the boards. 165 00:14:24,395 --> 00:14:25,565 Take care of your sales. 166 00:14:25,655 --> 00:14:26,285 Bye-bye. 167 00:14:44,425 --> 00:14:45,915 It's easy if. 168 00:15:04,450 --> 00:15:23,210 All the people for today, it. 169 00:15:29,270 --> 00:15:42,930 Nothing to kill or die and no religion to all.