Feb. 13, 2026

How To Get Your Child Into A College Golf Program featuring Andy Walker

How To Get Your Child Into A College Golf Program featuring Andy Walker
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GS#485 April 21, 2015 Andy Walker of the Legacy Golf Channel Academy in Phoenix, AZ  returns to discuss his new business that creates a rating system for high school golfers to get noticed by college golf programs.  Besides playing against Tiger in college and professionally, Andy is also the coach of the nation's #1 community college golf team, South Mountain Community College. We also talk about: • How the youth movement that is taking over the PGA Tour,
• Recap of Jordan Speith's performance at The 2015 Masters
• How Speith and Rory McIlroy are now the future of the Tour
• How Tiger still has an impact on the financial success of the golf industry.

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http://www.pgatour.com/players/player.26288.html

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Hi. This is Matt McClory from Brentwood in New Hampshire

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and I play.

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At Apple Hill Golf Club.

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I've got three or four five on my team that

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I think are going to be playing professional golf at

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some level PGA Tour. I'd love to see them there.

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Do they have the talent ability? Definitely, this is a

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very talented group. I was fortunate enough to win an

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NCAA championship at Pepperdine in ninety seven, and I would

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think that this junior college team here is better than

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our team that won an NCAA championship. There's so many guys.

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I mean, just to think that I met Jordan Speed

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in the first time, I believe he was maybe eighteen

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or nineteen he got an exemption into the Northern Trust

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Open when he was at Texas, and I got an

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exemption to play it as well. And the kid was polished.

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He looked like a tour veteran at that age. He's

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not your typical twenty one year old kid right now.

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I mean the maturity that he has and his golf

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awareness and knowledge is just beyond his years. And it's

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pretty fun to see. So to think that he could

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have been playing next month the NCAA Championships is scary.

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How you or your child can get into a college

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golf program With Andy Walker, this is Golf Smarter Premium.

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Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome back to the Golf

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Smarter Podcast.

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Andy, thanks for having me, Fred, I appreciate it. Buddy.

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Hey, it's great to have you on. And for those

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of you who have not joined us, we are actually

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broadcasting this live on periscope so that we have some

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people watching, hopefully hearing both of our sides of our

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conversation and they can submit questions. We've already gotten one

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question in. I'm going to actually go right to the question, okay,

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and then we'll get I need to get an update

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of what's going on with you. We haven't talked to

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you in about a year, and I want to talk

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to you. Did you get a chance to watch the Masters?

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I know you've been really busy with your teams. Uh huh, yeah,

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so I mean there was a guy who won the

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Masters this year that could have been on your team. Incredible, huh,

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It's amazing. But we'll get to that later. I want

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to go right to the first question that we got

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worthy winner, absolutely right to the question that we got

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on periscope, which is how do I overcome nerves in golf?

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Great question? You know what, nerves are kind of a

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self induced feeling, and so when we talk about nerves,

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it means our mind is in a place other than

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where it should be. So if we're thinking about nerves,

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we're thinking about the outcome of a particular top Say

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we're on the eighteenth hole of a tournament and we're

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really nervous because the consequences of winning could be really big.

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I'm sure Jordan had a lot of nerves coming down

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and stretch this week. But what great players do is

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they focus on something instead of letting the nerves and

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the thoughts of what if and what could be overcome

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us if we have a good focus on and what

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I like to call process, you know, where we get

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to thinking about where we want to hit the golf shot,

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how we're going to do it, you know, what it's

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going to feel like, and kind of seeing the result

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and doing a lot of the mental imagery. Then we

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forget about the what ifs. So our nerves is going

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to be there always. But the thing is we can

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use them to our advantage. They can either nerves can

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either help us or hurt us. So one thing that

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I heard is the last thought we have before we

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hit a golf shot is either going to enhance or

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hurt what we're trying to accomplish with that golf shot.

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So having nerves is a good thing. Being able to

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race them and get refocused on what we want to

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have happen when we hit the golf shot or play

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the whole or what we're trying to accomplish on the

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golf course at that time. Is what's going to really

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separate us from failing in that in that time or

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being very successful at the same time.

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Our first first t jitters similar to eighteenth hole jitters,

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they manifest themselves differently, or is it all about you

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have to be in the moment and forget anything else.

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I don't know if they're if they're much different. I

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know the first t jitters are because the unknown. We

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haven't hit any golf shots yet in competition for the day,

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so we want to make sure that we're still that

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guy that we were on the range, or we are

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every day. I know when I was playing for a living,

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the reason why I used to practice so hard was

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because I was scared every day I was going to

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wake up and not be as good as I was

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the last day, And so that first shot of the

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day was always like, Okay, I'm still I'm still me, right,

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someone else didn't creep into into my body overnight and

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turn into something else. And I hear a lot of

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the same thing from a lot of tour players on

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eighteen as well. Is you know, we start we start

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thinking about the outcome of what could happen in the situation,

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and so we lose some of the process. Rory McCrory

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when he when the British said last year something very

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good about two words that he worked on during the

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whole week, and he said it before the tournament, So

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in essence, he was kind of predicting that he was

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going to win, and there's going to be two reasons why.

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And he used the word process, and he used the

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word spot. And I am huge on process, and process

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goes into so deep, so many things of how we

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prepare to hit a golf shot, how we manage our emotions,

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what we're thinking about and why, and then going ahead

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and hitting the golf shot and executing. And then spot

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went into while he was putting, he was focusing on

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a spot. So if I'm focused on something, you know,

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we can't think about two or three different things at

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one time. So if I'm, you know, focusing on my rhythm,

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or if I'm focusing on a target in the background

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or a specific swinky, I can't be thinking about the

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nerves and the situation. And at the same time, we've.

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Talked so often about process and outcome.

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We even did a show once there was a teacher

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who uses NATO golf, which is an ATO not attached

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to outcome. Okay, and so many of the mental coaches

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that we've talked to talk about process versus outcome. I

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can see the sweaty palms on the first tee, you

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know where your anticipation leading up to it for hours

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and hours, if not days, weeks, months, versus your knees

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knocking on the eighteenth hole on your eighteenth hole putt, right,

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different kind of nerves. But again it's it's because you're

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focused on what might happen versus staying in that moment exactly.

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And so even if we see with Jordan winning this

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week was unbelievable performance that really started a month ago.

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I mean the kids, you know, he goes win, second, second, win.

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He's been in the leader group, so the kid's been

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in total control of his process the whole time. But

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we saw on the seventy second hold the Masters, you know,

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he didn't hit a very good putt at all. He

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was not in the moment at that time he was

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given his acceptance speech. He was just like, let me,

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let me cuddle this thing up to the hole and

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get it in somehow.

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And only the announcers at that point knew that it

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was a record breaking putt. I'm sure he wasn't aware

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that if he makes the putt, he sets the record

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for the lowest score ever.

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Right, Yeah, subconsciously he may have known it. He wasn't

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thinking about that he was thinking about, you know what,

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I'm about to win the Masters. Let me not do

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something stupid like power lift this thing out and have

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it spin down the hill to fifteen feet and I

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leave myself a tough you know. So his thing is

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let us let me get this over with. And you know,

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I'm sure his mind was racing the thing is a

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kid is just I mean, that was an amazing performance

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this week, and so the control that he showed that

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he learned from last year. You know self admitted he

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had lost control and got a little hot last year

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after he missed that put on eight. You know, this

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year he missed some putts as well, but he didn't

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let it, you know, overcome him. He got right back

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into the process of what he was doing. And the

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result speaks for himself.

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It was amazing. It was an amazing performance, and he's

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got all parts of his game working. It was all

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working all weekend long. Was it a fluke performance? Not

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by him but in the world of golf, because you

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don't you know, I mean, how many times has somebody

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won by night, you know, by being minus eighteen right

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on that golf course?

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Right?

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Was that a fluke? Are they going to have to

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make changes of the course so they can make it.

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You know, the winning score should be like in a

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US Open, the winning should be a minus three, right,

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not twenty nineteen.

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Well, you know, I wouldn't say it's a fluke. It

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wasn't like he wasn't trying to shoot eighteen under. He

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was trying to shoot even part shot eighteen. I would

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say that it might be. I would say, more than anything,

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I think the core setup was a little different. It

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was a little softer. We saw that. I heard for

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the first time that around the greens the grass was

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cut towards the green instead of away from it, which

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made chipping a lot easier. You weren't always against the grain.

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I don't know if they did that to help out

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a certain someone who had some short game issues earlier

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this year, and but you know, at the same time,

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I just think that conditions were conducive for low scoring

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this year, and so you know, the guys took advantage

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of it, and there was a lot of low scores

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and eagles made and long irons hit really close in

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three woods that were stopping close to the whole, and

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you know, so you know, I don't think they really

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have to change that golf course. I mean, it's they've

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added so much laying to it. It's like seventy six

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seventy seven hundred yards. There's a lot of things that

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I think are really good with that golf course already

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that they don't have to touch. I mean, maybe the

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green's firming up a little bit more, you know, maybe

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cutting the grain against the green, you know, going away

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from the green around the greens is definitely going to

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change the short game landscape of that golf courch, which

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is where all the scoring is done is around the

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green deck.

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Enough about Jordan Speed. Everybody's talking about Jordan Speed. Let's

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talk about Andy Walker. What's going on with you?

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Wow? A lot, a lot's going on. It's been a

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great year.

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Glad to hear.

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Yeah, still coaching South Mountain Community College. Number one junior

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college team in the country, Is that right? Yeah, we're

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number one team in the country.

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What's the age group of the kids that you have

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playing there?

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Eighteen to twenty twenty one? Okay, so yep, college kids

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and we're the number one junior college team of the country.

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We thank you. We've won every tournament this spring semester,

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which has been unbelievable. I don't know if that's ever

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been done before, but we've I've got a great group

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of guys that are that are playing. I also have

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the women's team, which is number two in our conference

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right now. So they've made great strides from not even

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really having a full team last year to become the

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number two team in our region on the women's side,

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which is pretty fun. Started up a new company called

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US Golf Combines.

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What is that tell me?

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Us Golf Combine, It's pretty fun. So it is the

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most respected and kind of intricate combined rating system in golf.

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rating system for the game of golf. Ours is going

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to be targeted towards high school players that are wanting

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to play in college. So we're going to be traveling

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around the country. Are first ones in Dallas at Brookhaven

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Country Club. So for people that are aware with Dallas,

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brook Haven is Jordan Speace course that he grew up

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playing with, and so the people that work with Jordan

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Speed at Fitness. I know he was talking about the

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guys when he gave his acceptance speech. Those guys are

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going to be actually doing our fitness stuff, so it's

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pretty neat. It was a big week for us with

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US Golf Combines and Jordan Speed and his whole team,

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because there's gonna a lot of stuff that we're going

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to be doing in conjunction with each other. But we're

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going to go around the country and we're gonna be

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rting high school players, so they're going to be going

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through the trap Man combine. We have short game algorithms

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and putting algorithms that dictate proximity the whole and give

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you a rating as well as makes they're going to

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go out and play. We have a mental combine that

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we're going to be doing AMP Fitness, which is Jordan

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SPI's fitness crew and people that work on his body

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and physique are going to be doing a physical combine

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with us, and then we're going to put the kids

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high school resumes together in appropriate format and from there

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we're going to videotape them and their interview and have

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a nice package for them to send out to college

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coaches so they can play college.

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Golf on The combine idea is based on combines, like

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for football, from college kids going into the pros and

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you get all the scouts together. That's the concept behind

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this exactly.

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College golf recruiting has been pretty tough. I've been fortunate

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to get some really good players here where we're at,

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but college golf recruit there's so many kids that are

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out there playing high school golf, and only like the

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Jordan's Speace and the select few that are playing the

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bigger AJGA tournaments, USGA tournaments and Junior World and stuff

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like that are get looked at by the top colleges. Well,

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not everyone can play in those tournaments. It's just like

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every event, there's only a limited amount of field, you

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know that that can participate in the field. So how

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does everyone else get seen and how do they get hurt?

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And so from the coaching aspect of it, there are

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certain things I like to see from a college player.

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So if I see players that are combined correctly and

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rated in certain areas, I can pick from these certain

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areas that I like. I may not need a kid

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who makes every put right now. I may not need

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a kid who's shooting sixty five and sixes of tournaments.

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But if you can move it pretty good off the

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t if you have some nice distance and you're tracking

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combine is pretty good. I can show you how to

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score lower. On the other side, there's coaches and teams

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that like guys that roll it really well or already

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shooting really low, and maybe they'll work on the guys

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on the technical part of hitting golf shots, and so

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we can kind of match up player and coach very well. So,

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just like you said, is it like the high school

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or is it like the college the football combines and

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baseball and basketball combines.

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Yes, it is.

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You know, obviously we're rating and testing different things, but

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it's all for the same reason to find out about

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a player's strengths, what they're good at, and potential as well,

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and then to find out some of those hidden gems

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as well.

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Absolutely, it sounds amazing. It's taking the moneyball concept and

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giving the stats so that you can compare apples to apples.

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I remember having a conversation with the coach at Michigan

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State years ago, and he talked about how it's difficult

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to recruit on the high school side, plus college teams

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don't have that many spaces open, right, But it's difficult

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to recruit on the on the college side because you

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have apples to oranges. They don't all play really nice courses,

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and they don't all you know, it's hard to compare them.

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Across the board hundred percent, You're you're right, And it

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is hard to judge a player, you know, that's playing

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maybe in the in the Northeast versus someone that's playing

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over here in the Southwest, and their seasons are different.

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And you know, the kids are just coming out on

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the East coast right now, they're just coming out of

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a pretty harsh winter, so their skills aren't going to

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be the same as somebody that's playing in Arizona, California,

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you know, in Nevada right now. And so our thing

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is if we're rating them at the proper time, like

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I wouldn't go and do a Northeast combine, you know,

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in March, it's not going to do. Any of those

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kids aren't going to be ready. But when we get

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to their spot and their level at the right time,

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obviously everyone's going to have their skills. So someone's short

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game may show up better. Who's particularly not scoring their

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best or something at the time. So and then you know,

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like I said, it allows a good player to coach

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matchup as well, and it gives everyone there their rating

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at every different pillar that we choose to categorize.

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While we're on this topic, what kind of advice would

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you give to parents who have kids who are in

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high school that love to play the game, that want

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to compete? What kind of advice would you give to

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parents about prepping their kid to play college ball or

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how they can get into playing college ball?

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Awesome? Awesome, Come to US College Golf Combines. So the

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US Golf Combines dot com is actually going to go

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live next week. At the end of the week, we're

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So give me a date on that, because this is

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going to be broadcast. You know, once we publish, the

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show may have been already live.

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So yeah, so approximately it will be April thirtieth. The

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website's going to go live. We will get start out

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on fifteen, twenty fifteen and from there. But you know what,

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play as much competition as you can play. It doesn't

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matter what the tournament is, what the name of it is,

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who's the sponsor of it, where it's at the main

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thing is to just like we talked about with nerves earlier,

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the more you're in that situation, the less you're gonna

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feel those nerves, and the more competition you can play,

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the better. One thing I hear a lot. I work

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with a lot of really good junior and high school

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players as well, is I'm gonna wait till I'm playing

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a little bit better. I'm gonna wait till I'm swinging better.

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I'm'n wait till I'm putting better to get in that tournament. Well,

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we don't know how we're gonna swing and how we're

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gonna hit it, and how we're gonna tip it until

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we get into the tournament. You may get there and

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find out that you're a great tournament player, not a

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good practicer. You know, I have a kid who on

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my team right now, who's the number two player in

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the country who does not qualify. Well, well, he's gotten

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a couple sponsor picker coaches picks by me, and the

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kid's gone out and played extremely well in tournaments. So

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you know, there's just like we said, there's gamers, and

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and so our thing is to make sure that the

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gamers are found, and how you're going to be found

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as a gamer is getting the game. You know that

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I've never won a golf tournament on a practice team.

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Oh I had Sorry, many.

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Actually, I won a couple of US Opens and Masters

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on a practice green, not on the rain.

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It made me think of something, Oh, the difference between

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high school golf and junior golf programs right right? And

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does that help recruiting a college recruiter if they're playing,

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you know, junior golf versus playing high school golf.

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I would say college recruiters are looking more at the

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at the junior golf tournaments because they're multiple day tournaments.

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They're eighteen whole tournaments a day. A lot of high

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school matches are nine hole matches, you know, and.

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They're not always on the best courses, right, and.

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They're not always on the best golf courses, and you

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know it's but we do look at those as well.

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I mean, obviously I go out to the state high

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school tournament every year and do a lot of recruiting

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there for my team. But and I think a lot

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of college coaches do as well. But they're also looking

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at some of the a j GA, the local junior

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tours that are playing. Like here in Arizona, we have

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the Junior gol Association in Arizona and they have the

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Desert Junior Tour and the Rocky mounta Junior tro and

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all these different junior tours that are going on. So,

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you know, my thing is how much tournament golf are

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you playing? First of all, and which tells me a

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couple of things. You know that that's your commitment to

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this game. And then you know, what are you shooting

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in these tournaments? How you how are you placing? How

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are you bouncing back from from poor rounds. I'm not

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always looking at your best rounds. I'm looking back. How

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are you bouncing back after round? Your progression from year

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to year? And so, uh, the only way for me

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to measure that unless you are getting combined by US

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Golf combine or you're I'm there watching you practice every day.

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Is the only measurement I have is your tournament scores,

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So as much competition as you can play.

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You said your team is number one in the nation.

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Is that on not on a D one D two

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it's community college.

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National Junior college yet the NJC double A So n

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JC double a number one team in the country. Yeah,

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it's fun. We've had some success against some D one schools.

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We yeah, we I think Arizona State right now is

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number two D one team in the country, and we

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clipped them earlier in the fall in a tournament, so

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we got played. Oh it's awesome, it's awesome. I would

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take my five junior college guys right now and play

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any NCAD Division one tournament in the country and know

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that we are not only going to compete, but would

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have a chance to win. To say that we're going

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to win every tournament at the D one level would

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be silly. But I tell you what, these guys can

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flat play and it is. It's fun. It's a pleasure

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coaching them.

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Yeah, oh congratulations. How does team scoring work like that?

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So in our conference in junior college, we play six

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players count the four low scorers. In our regional tournament

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which is next Thursday through Sunday, it is five players

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count four. And at the national championship in May and

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Alabama's going to be five count four. So every day

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you play five players in your low four scores or

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is your team total?

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You know, I'm going to go back. We're talking about

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twenty one year olds here. And my favorite line actually

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of the day. At the very end when he won,

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Jim Nantz was saying, well, you know, next month, if

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he was back in Texas. He would be graduating next month,

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but he doesn't have to because he got his masters.

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That's right.

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It was a great line. But do you see kids

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that you go, Okay, this kid's going to be able

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to compete on a professional level.

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Yeah, definitely. All the time. I've got, you know, goodness,

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three or four or five on my team that I

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think are going to be playing professional golf, you know,

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at some level PGA Tour. I would love to see

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them there. Do they have the talent ability? Definitely? I mean,

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this is a very talented group. But you gotta think

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we're a junior college team. I was fortunate enough to

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win an NC DOUBLEA championship at Pepperdine in ninety seven,

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and I would think that this team here is better

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than our team that won an NC DOUBLEA championship. And so,

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you know, there's so many guys. I mean, just to

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think that Jordan Spieth. I met Jordan the first time.

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I believe he was maybe eighteen, eighteen or nineteen. He

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got an exemption into the Northern Trust Open when he

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was at Texas, and I got an exemption to playing

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as well. And the kid was polished. I mean, he

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looked like a tour veteran at that age, and so

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you know, he's not your typical twenty one year old

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kid right now. I mean, this kid, the maturity that

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he has and his golf awareness and knowledge is just

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beyond his year, and it's it's it's pretty fun to see.

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So to think that he could have been playing next

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month n CUAA Championships is scary. I mean, I just

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wouldn't want to run against him.

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Wait a minute, he's not eligible to.

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No, he could have been. I mean state college, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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he can that.

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He's not an amateur anymore. Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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far from being an amateur.

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Yeah, but if he you know, like I said, he

473
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.880
could have been playing that wow, you know, come a month,

474
00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:26.720
and that would have been Like I said, I wouldn't

475
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.319
want to run across him at that point.

476
00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:32.559
And wasn't when Tiger was that age. Wasn't he held back?

477
00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:35.200
Didn't his dad hold him back from playing on an

478
00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:37.720
upper level. It's like, just take one stage at a time.

479
00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:39.599
That's not rush things he did.

480
00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:42.400
Yep. And I tell people I see high school kids

481
00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:44.559
that want to jump right into the pro ranks right

482
00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:45.119
off the bat and.

483
00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.000
We're not talking about basketball.

484
00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:49.519
Right, We're talking about golfer. And I'm like, guys, if

485
00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.400
Tiger went to college for a couple of years, yeah,

486
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:55.160
you should probably go to college for now. Are there

487
00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.000
exceptions to the rule? Yeah? Over in Europe, a lot

488
00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.640
of the guys don't go to college, like the Rory

489
00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:02.079
mcle and stuff like that. But at the same time,

490
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.240
a lot of them do you know, you got Adam Scott,

491
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:06.279
who did you know he went to UNLV for a

492
00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:09.359
few years, so you know, there is there's kind of

493
00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:12.400
a blueprint ish of how to get there and and

494
00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.359
college golf gets you acclimated to play in bigger venues

495
00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:19.599
with with the best players all the time. And uh And,

496
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:21.839
like I said, it was, you know, the guys that

497
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:23.960
are the most successful did it for a little while

498
00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.880
at the college level and one NCAA championships Tiger won

499
00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:29.599
as well, and Jordan one and and uh and they

500
00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.480
moved up with the confidence and ability to be successful

501
00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:33.200
at the next level.

502
00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:36.319
You you said a moment ago that they have the

503
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:39.680
talent and the ability. But my question is they have

504
00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:46.039
talent and ability, but dot dot dot. You know, obviously

505
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:50.240
there's a whole lot of maturity that is required. There's

506
00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:52.759
a whole lot of presence, there's a whole lot of

507
00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:56.480
self knowledge that you have to have to succeed at

508
00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:02.400
golf at that level. So tell ability, is that just enough?

509
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:09.079
Or what what separates the ones who can from the

510
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.759
can't on a competitive level?

511
00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:14.839
There's there's a couple of things this right here. Your

512
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.240
heart can't measure heart and and and and your mind

513
00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:22.160
up here. And so what what Jordan speak is really

514
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.279
good at is is focusing and staying in the present

515
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:28.799
and not being afraid of big situations. And so the

516
00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:32.319
awareness level that he has out there is is awesome.

517
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:36.559
When you see an awareness, you're not talking about about

518
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:41.720
his the competition. You're talking about awareness of self, of self.

519
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:44.839
On the awareness of self. He his self awareness, his

520
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.720
awareness of what he does at certain instances. I have

521
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.160
tons of people who tell me they draw the ball

522
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:54.480
and coming down the hardness of of of situations, the

523
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:57.960
ball goes right, and and and I said, your awareness

524
00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:00.720
and and and our reality is a little differ front here. Right,

525
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:02.799
if we missed the ball right all the time coming

526
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:05.720
down to stretch and we're aiming right, we've got to disconnect.

527
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:10.359
And so you know, there's the little intangibles that that

528
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:16.079
separate the good from the greats. Okay, and the greats

529
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:18.759
exactly what is it? It's being able to perform at

530
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:25.559
your best and the most important time. Okay, So myself,

531
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:27.839
for an example, I was a very good high school player.

532
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.839
I was a collegiate All American. I went in c doublea's.

533
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:31.279
I played on the PGA Tour, I played on the

534
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:34.279
web dot Com Tour. I won twenty eight professional events.

535
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.000
But what was it that I didn't do at the

536
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.519
right time that a Jordan Speeth or a Tiger Woods does.

537
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.279
Do you know why were they winning major team? Do

538
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.200
they do those guys hit the ball better than I do? No?

539
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:47.920
Do they chip it and put it better than I do? No?

540
00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.079
But there's a little intangibles that the greats, the Jack Necklaces,

541
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:55.359
the Arnold Palmer's, the Lee Trevino's, those guys that that

542
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.319
we see and are the greats of the game do

543
00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:00.640
better than the thirty to one twenty five on the

544
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.359
money list guys, right, And it has nothing to do

545
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.079
with physical ability, has nothing to do with work ethic.

546
00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:08.680
You can't tell me that the twenty four guy in

547
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.400
the money list works harder than the twenty five guind

548
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:13.279
of Money list or the five guid of money list,

549
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:15.039
works harder than the fifty guyd in of Mine list. No,

550
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:20.319
there are intangibles that are that are immeasurable that helps

551
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:22.039
you get to that level, and a lot of it,

552
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.319
like I said, is repetition. I think Jordan's very successful.

553
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:28.039
He's been playing a lot of high level golf for

554
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:29.720
a long time, a lot of tournament golf for a

555
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.920
long time, and putting yourself in that position as much

556
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.920
as you can helps you be successful. And so finding

557
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:39.920
out yourself, Hey, this is what I do when I'm

558
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:41.880
in this situation. Now I'm going to own up to that.

559
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:46.400
Once I found out what my miss really was coming

560
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:50.480
down the stretch, I got to plan and kind of

561
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:52.599
go into my process a little bit deeper and attack

562
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.160
those things so I could be successful in that and

563
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.279
cherish those moments instead of being afraid of them and

564
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.880
being like the first question, being nervous about it. Right,

565
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:04.400
I had more anticipation than fear, and so that's where

566
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:06.599
the nerves get. You know, they can help you or

567
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.279
hurt you at that same point. So you know those

568
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.480
that's a great question that you asked, Right, there is

569
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:16.519
you know, the dot dot dot. You know, what's going

570
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:18.480
to be the commitment to these kids when they come

571
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.960
out of college, you know, if they sign a big contract.

572
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.680
We see that, I think a lot of players right now,

573
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.559
and not to bring up a touchy subject, learned from

574
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:32.279
Tiger's mistake. Okay, they learned. They learned that, hey, we can't,

575
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.559
we can't lead this type of lifestyle that is available

576
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:40.119
to us. Right, because who was the great superstar before

577
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:44.880
Tiger out there? Oh wait, right there, there wasn't one,

578
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:46.920
but Tigers said a blueprint of like this is what

579
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:50.039
can't happen now? Yeah, exactly right. And there was no

580
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.079
social media, and there wasn't all these different you know, distractions.

581
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.160
I'm sure that there was twenty four hours sports channels

582
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.000
and golf channels.

583
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:00.559
Exactly, and there wasn't people tweeting when I saw you

584
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.319
with a certain I mean, I'm sure that Tiger is

585
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.960
not the first person to have transgressions ever that had

586
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:13.119
played golf, right, Probably not, Probably not, And that may

587
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:15.440
not be the most popular thing to say, but it's true.

588
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.119
And professional athlete, there are people following.

589
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:23.559
Exactly and so and so the kids I think or

590
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.559
Speed has really learned, Hey, this is the type of

591
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.000
lifestyle that I want to lead to be successful. And

592
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:30.640
he's doing it. And he's got a good camp around him,

593
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.200
and he's got a good family around him, and he

594
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.519
has people around him that are taking care of him

595
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.480
and not trying to use him. And so, you know,

596
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.319
I think he's got a lot of the he's got

597
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:41.759
a lot of the tools in place to be very

598
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:43.119
successful in this game for a long time.

599
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:54.359
Is Tiger's legacy Rory and Jordan? I mean, is you

600
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.920
know what what did he bring to golf? Yeah, he

601
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.519
brought a moment of amazing excellence. But what did he

602
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.480
leave for the long term? Maybe it's the next generation

603
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:05.839
of golfers and what he's taught them. That's a really

604
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:10.000
interesting point that you have, because it seems like right now,

605
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:13.880
more than ever on the professional level, there's a lot

606
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:17.240
of young people playing and competing and succeeding.

607
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.960
Yeah, is that that new breed's coming up? Right? I mean?

608
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:24.160
You know, I mean, I mean Rory made a comment

609
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:27.880
last year about Phil and Tiger being on their back nine.

610
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:30.759
You know, they're on the back nine of their careers.

611
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.799
I'm like, Wow, that's that's.

612
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:33.759
The same age as me.

613
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.240
Yeah, I'm six months older than Tiger. It's like that

614
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:40.680
means I'm done. I've already made the turn. I'm on

615
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:42.039
the nineteenth all right now.

616
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:44.759
Dude, I talk about being in the back nine of life,

617
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.039
so you still got some time.

618
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.599
So you know, it's amazing that you know that these

619
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.079
young guys that are coming up are so good and

620
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:57.000
so strong, and you know, Patrick Reid what what what

621
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.000
he bringing to this game is awesome and obviously Jordan's speed,

622
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.440
and we see these guys that are just these young

623
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.640
guns that are out there every week, and guess what,

624
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.279
they're not afraid of Tiger. And I think the generation

625
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:10.880
before Tiger, the guys that are you know, forty three,

626
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:13.000
forty four that we played a little bit before Tiger

627
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:14.799
and the guys that came out with him had that

628
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.880
fear factor. We've been stung by Tiger for twenty years

629
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.319
and it hurts. It's like, goodness, gracious, and he's only

630
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.200
getting better. Well, the guys behind him never got stung

631
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.759
by Tiger before, right, and so they come out there

632
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.400
like Tiger who all we know Tiger's We saw you

633
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.279
on TV apologizing for getting caught you know, doing that

634
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.240
and now you're chili dipping it and you can't get

635
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.000
it on the green at tpc's Scottsdale, and you know,

636
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:39.519
it's like that fear. They don't have that fear factor.

637
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:41.759
They don't have those those those scar they don't have

638
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:42.839
the scar tissue of Tiger.

639
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.960
Well, Tiger had this intimidation factor too when he was

640
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:49.759
at his prime that everyone was talking about from you know,

641
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.599
from columnists to mean, everybody, even if they weren't into golf,

642
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.680
they were talking about his intimidation factor. He walked on

643
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.720
the course and everybody was like, oh boy, this is

644
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:00.559
not to be fun.

645
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.000
I sat in a room with a room full of

646
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.680
tour players, all tour winners, multiple winners, and we were

647
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.839
talking about Tiger. I think this was about twenty ten

648
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:17.160
or so, two thousand and nine, and everyone talked about

649
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:18.839
I said, what's the difference because we all grew up

650
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:20.920
playing against Tiger and we've beaten him, and he's beaten

651
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.839
us obviously more than we beat him. But he was gettable.

652
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:25.799
And they were like, Tiger is a different person now,

653
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:28.079
he's almost godlike on a golf course. They're like, you,

654
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.720
he floats around a golf course, you can be hitting

655
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.519
balls and you'll feel him fifty yards behind you hitting

656
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:36.559
balls and you'll feel him walking up. Just that presence.

657
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.880
Right now, Tiger does not have that same presence out there.

658
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.720
So yeah, I was just going to ask you, you've

659
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:47.960
played against him, you've coached, can you watch him on

660
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:51.319
TV and know like, okay, this is this put's not

661
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.440
going in or he's not I mean, can you just

662
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.119
feel it from him? You get a sense from him

663
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:57.759
that it's not there.

664
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.839
I saw him play at TVC's Got Still this year

665
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.839
and I almost cried. I mean, it was that sad

666
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:09.640
to see the best player who's ever picked up a

667
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:13.880
golf club not be able to chip a ball onto

668
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.400
the green from five yards off the green, right. I mean,

669
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:19.960
I'm not talking about not chipping it in what I'm

670
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:21.640
used to seeing him doing, or not chipping it to

671
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:23.880
a foot. He couldn't get a ball on the green right.

672
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:25.960
He's still taking foe arm and trying to roll it up.

673
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.920
And you know, he kind of bought into all this

674
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.119
mess about changing his wrist patterns or whatever that means,

675
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:36.319
and gluts being activated and deactivated and not firing, and

676
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:38.839
you know, it was sad. To see, because I was

677
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:40.279
there with a bunch of guys at that play on

678
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:43.160
tour and we're watching like we don't know what's going on.

679
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.240
And it was a sad day, I think for golf

680
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:48.440
more than anything, just because being a fan of the

681
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.279
game and being able to play against and be around

682
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.880
the best players ever. To see the best player ever

683
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.079
go through that type of struggle, it's like, wow, you

684
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:58.960
know what was hard, was like that could happen to

685
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.160
me at any time. And then it was beautiful to

686
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.000
watch him chipping and pitching the ball the way he

687
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:08.400
did at the Masters, and and see, you know, the

688
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.840
last day he stumbled a little bit, but I had

689
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.280
no idea. I said, you know, with Tiger, you're going

690
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:17.480
to get anything. He could have came out and gave

691
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.199
it Jordan's speed performance and won by you know, four

692
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.119
or five six shots, or he could have shot eighty

693
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:26.400
eight ninety two, right, you know, And so to see

694
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.079
him come out and get it out of the way,

695
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.159
and I just want him to miss number one green

696
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:31.880
and watch him chip it like chip it on the

697
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.920
green and then let's breathe, okay, yeah, And and then

698
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:36.559
you know, he played some some good rounds there in

699
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.639
the middle and got himself, you know, somewhat in contention.

700
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:42.599
Jordan kind of left the field, but he you know,

701
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:46.599
he got himself in contention, and you know, and I

702
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:48.480
think that's good for the game. Tell you the truth,

703
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:51.079
this game as great ass Jordan's speed's going to be

704
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.800
for the game, as great as as Rory McElroy is

705
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.880
going to be for this game. The game's in good

706
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:00.559
hands right now. But this game needs Tiger. Well.

707
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.559
You know, I've recently received an email from a listener saying,

708
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:07.199
stop talking about Tiger already. Let's focus on what's going on,

709
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:13.039
because there is a youth movement that is happening. Jordan

710
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:19.599
and Rory are the future of the game at that level,

711
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.719
and Tiger is not it. And so maybe we put

712
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.960
too much emphasis on what was and hoping it's going

713
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.719
to come back, because it you know, the fact is

714
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:36.079
watching Tiger this past week, and I commented to a

715
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.360
couple of people, I don't remember Tiger having four good

716
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:41.960
rounds on a weekend. I mean, he has not put

717
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.440
four good rounds together in a long time, right, So,

718
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.800
you know, you can always talk about the nineteen fifties Yankees,

719
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.880
you know about dominating the sport. But they're not coming

720
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.360
back either, right, right, right, right, So we do have

721
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.599
to look at the future of the game. And you're

722
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.360
working directly with these young kids, you think and you

723
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.239
see firsthand that's where it's going.

724
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:09.039
Definitely, definitely, I mean, you know that was I don't

725
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:12.880
think we could have had a better champion than than

726
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.599
than Jordan, obviously, other than if Tiger would have won,

727
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:20.760
the golf industry would have exploded. I mean, people don't

728
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.559
understand that Tiger feeds us all in the golf industry. Okay,

729
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.760
if Tiger had to bow out because you couldn't chip

730
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:30.239
a ball on the green, this two million dollar performance

731
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.519
in a rah hair right now would be struggling. I mean,

732
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:37.079
he gives because because he's going to bring people want

733
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.400
to watch Tiger either fail or succeed. But either way

734
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.239
you want to watch him. Yeah, and so either way

735
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:49.719
you're you're you're anticipating watching him play. Jordan was awesome

736
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.599
because he won by a lot on Saturday and Sunday, right,

737
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.719
and so people tuned in on Thursday to watch Tiger.

738
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.239
Jordan took that audience away from them, great, right, he

739
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.039
took he took the audience, and he was like, hey,

740
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:05.519
this is my audience and that was awesome. And and

741
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.880
Rory you know, didn't quite live up to what he was,

742
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.760
you know, touted to do. And but I mean, you know,

743
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.280
great player, unbelievable players, so right.

744
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:20.280
And obviously that course, that course does not compliment his game, right,

745
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:30.760
So clearly he struggles there this concept of Tiger being

746
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:36.559
the messiah for golf. I it's like a bunch of

747
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.360
fifty I'm sorry, a bunch of sixty year old consultants

748
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.159
talking about when they had their big day in business

749
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.039
and they're waiting for it to come back. It's like, folks,

750
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.679
if you're not embracing the Internet and Twitter and periscope

751
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.360
and Facebook, if you're not embracing that in the way

752
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.079
you do business, now forget about it.

753
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.559
It's like Bundy talking about his high school you know,

754
00:37:57.920 --> 00:37:59.800
in high school, I threw for five touchdowns in the

755
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:01.400
state game.

756
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.079
Yeah, and that was your moment.

757
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:05.239
And so.

758
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.239
Hopefully is Jordan. You know, we've always talked about is

759
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.360
Rory the next Tiger? Is Ry? You know, we keep

760
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.079
waiting for it to happen, and it kind of does.

761
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.039
And he you know, he was on the on the

762
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:21.440
verge of a career Grand Slam and that that is Jordan,

763
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.639
the next Tiger. I mean, because we had you know,

764
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:27.199
I mean we we it's big, you know, Arnie and

765
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.320
Jack and Tiger. You know, you had. There are certain

766
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.039
players for each generation that just carry the generation, and

767
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.440
Tiger had his. But he fell from grace so hard.

768
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.079
It's such a shame. But now we got to look

769
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.360
to the future again. And is Jordan I think, I

770
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:48.480
personally think because and this is gonna sound terrible because

771
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:55.519
he's an American, it may be much bigger because the

772
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.559
advertisers are gonna are gonna clamp onto that. Plus is

773
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:02.320
you know, a horribleness his movie star looks. He's just

774
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.440
you know, he's just like a clean looking kid. You know,

775
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.480
they could be an advertising boom.

776
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:14.039
He is and and he's and he's a great kid.

777
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.800
And I think he's done everything the right way. And

778
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:19.559
you know, been getting to know a lot of people

779
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.559
around his camp lately. And the kid's a star and

780
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:25.000
he's been for a long time. And I think the

781
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.840
people around him know it, but they haven't kind of

782
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.320
filled his head with all the hooplah. But but at

783
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:35.400
the same time, I think that him that Jordan's speed

784
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.719
being American is huge. It is big for the game

785
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.039
because guess what, uh, To be honest, no one really

786
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:43.280
tunes into the golf channel to watch Rory McRoy that

787
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:48.199
much unless there's some Americans in the field that are

788
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:52.239
playing well and he's doing everything. Rory's got a lot

789
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:56.840
of swag, right, But Y didn't show up all the time.

790
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.559
And I don't think he's I don't I think he's

791
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:03.400
got the kind of and is it the word charisma

792
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:06.400
what I'm looking for that Tiger had that there was

793
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.960
something about him that just drew you to the screen.

794
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:13.280
It just sucked you in. That Tiger, whether he was

795
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:17.000
on the course or not, right and that, you know,

796
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:19.039
is that what we're and we're always looking for the

797
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:20.519
next one, the next one, the next one.

798
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.639
I think it's pretty unfair to put the next Tiger

799
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:28.840
on anybody, including absolutely Tiger has been the best in

800
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:33.840
the world since at his respective level, since we were

801
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:38.239
five years old. And when he was, you know, thirteen

802
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.199
years old, he was the best junior player in the world,

803
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:42.320
so that was everyone under eighteen, and when he was

804
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:44.480
in college he was the best player in the world.

805
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:46.519
I mean, I think Norman was ranked number one in

806
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.719
the world. But you know, Tiger went through a stretch

807
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.760
in college where he was shooting sixty threes and fours

808
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.280
and win an NCAA championship. Tiger shot eighty the last

809
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:56.320
round in NCAA's and one. Okay, that's how that's how

810
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:58.239
much he had blown us away. At the honors course,

811
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.719
I was right there and I was a recipient of

812
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.880
that whooping that he gave everybody as well. And uh,

813
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:06.960
you know, and I think I played with Robert Floyd

814
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.400
that week, Raymond's son, and Raymond followed us and said,

815
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.480
if this, if this was a tour event this week,

816
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:18.000
Tiger were won by about eight okay. And so you know,

817
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:21.159
to put that on anybody, I don't know, is it

818
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.760
is fair? Because they are looking for the next Tiger?

819
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.239
How about Jordan be the first Jordan Speed?

820
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:28.559
You know, how do you sell that?

821
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:29.400
Yeah?

822
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.519
And so totally, why do you sell that?

823
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:37.679
You know, Tiger. I'll tell you what. Under armour, these

824
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:39.639
people at the top of these companies know what they're doing.

825
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:41.679
I mean, they signed Tiger for sixty million and he

826
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:44.960
turns into you know, the whole game, and and and

827
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.599
under armour, you know, does this big contract with with

828
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:50.639
Jordan and they did a great job. They did an

829
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:55.480
unbelievable job. Uh. And so you know, obviously they know

830
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:57.679
what they're picking and they know what they're looking for.

831
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.440
And these guys are just you know, Nike signs a

832
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:03.199
big contract with with Rory and he becomes a number

833
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:04.880
one player in the world. It's like, these guys, are

834
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.039
they know something we don't, right, I need to go

835
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:09.880
to I need to go over there, and you have

836
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.199
these guys do my lottery numbers or something like that.

837
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:13.239
But uh, I.

838
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:14.840
Have one more question and then and then we're going

839
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:18.599
to take a break because you probably have a better

840
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.360
sense of this than I do. But are players wearing

841
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:22.280
spikes anymore?

842
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:27.920
Well, so, so let me give you the let me

843
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.320
give you the good answer here. I have a really

844
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.920
great relationship with Soft Spikes and they do their R

845
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:38.119
and D out of our performance center. So no spikes.

846
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.360
Soft Spikes company by Pride Sports is the only way

847
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:44.239
to go. Would that being said, Yeah, there's some people

848
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:49.239
that still wear nails. Reasons why we probably don't need

849
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.400
to know. You don't need spikes anymore. I mean, yeah,

850
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.960
you have to have spikes to to hold your foot,

851
00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:00.360
your balance, probably swing it too hard. Tip.

852
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.599
That's that's an excellent point. I was blown away seeing

853
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.559
Kegan Bradley wearing high top Air Jordan's.

854
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.679
Those are hideous. Those are awful. Those are were there, spike?

855
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:13.840
Where were there the you know, there's some sort of grip?

856
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:16.760
Those were regular basketball shoes, were they?

857
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.159
That's that? Now it's that Air Jordan golf shoes. And

858
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:21.719
he I guess he's going to release it or yeah,

859
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:25.440
and and and Kegan's wearing those are brutal.

860
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:31.920
I was like blown him, like I kept rewinding going,

861
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:34.559
oh my god, they really are Air Jordan high tops.

862
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:38.559
Yeah, that's nuts. That's his buddy. So he's making a

863
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:41.519
shoe for him, you know. And yeah, yeah, yeah it

864
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:42.639
but uh, I don't know.

865
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.119
You're going to provide us with a little tip perfect.

866
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.639
This tip is called follow the handle. A lot's been

867
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.199
said about short game lately, with Tiger's troubles and making

868
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.559
good contact and hitting thin shots and heavy shots around

869
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:58.039
the green. It's all can be handled in set up

870
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.519
and knowing where you're center of grab is. If you

871
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:02.800
know that your center of gravity is underneath your chin,

872
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.880
your hands are going to fall back underneath your chin

873
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.519
at impact. What happens is people try and hit golf

874
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:12.119
shots low and they get their hands forward. We've all

875
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.079
seen that guy before. And then when you come back

876
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:16.519
and if you try to hit a golf shot and

877
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.239
keep your hands forward at impact, you would bottom out

878
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.280
back here and lift the ball. And a lot of

879
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.239
players do that. They chunk it or they get they

880
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.800
hit the ball thin, so they're trying to hit it low.

881
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.519
If they come back and their hands fall underneath their chin,

882
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:30.280
the ball goes high and they go walls trying to

883
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.800
hit that low. So I always say follow the handle.

884
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:34.559
If I want to hit a golf shot low and

885
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:36.519
hit three shots for us, I'm going to hit a

886
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:40.320
low chip shot, a medium chip shot, medium trajectory, and

887
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:42.199
a higher pitch shot. And all I'm going to do

888
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.199
is follow the handle. So when I say that is

889
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:45.639
I'm going to make sure that my hands in the

890
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:48.800
handle fall underneath my chin. If I want to have

891
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:52.079
this club de loof did, I'm going to follow the handle.

892
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.360
So now the handle's underneath my chin again, so I

893
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.360
make contact, the ball will go low, we'll hit it

894
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.159
nice and crit and we still make contact with our

895
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.079
hands being consistently under our handle, which is underneath our

896
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.360
chin or center of gravity. If I want to hit

897
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.920
it medium, I set up here again. The shaft is

898
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.159
still leaning, but not as much. The handles underneath our chin,

899
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.599
and we make a regular chip shot. We'll all go

900
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:19.599
just a little bit higher. If we want to hit

901
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:21.719
the ball a little higher, what we do is we

902
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:23.679
start to turn. So if I want to add some

903
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.840
more law to it, I lean the shaft back. I

904
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:29.599
turn so now the club is right underneath my center

905
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.920
of gravity. Again, I'm a little more open to my target.

906
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:35.679
Make the same swing, and we hit a nice high,

907
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.679
softer shot. So the main thing is making sure that

908
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.880
wherever golf shot we want to have. If we want

909
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:42.400
to hit it low, we're going to have the club

910
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.639
leaning toward our target, but we're going to follow the

911
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.639
handle here. If it's medium, we're going to be right here,

912
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:49.360
and if it's back, we're going to have the handle

913
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.119
onneath our center of gravity. It's going to help you

914
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:51.800
with contact