Whiskey Spotlight: Filmland Spirits

0:00 On today's film and whiskey. We are talking with filmland Spirits a new whiskey company that's just come out with three. Fantastic whiskies. And if you can't tell, they approach topics that we might care just a little bit about. That's all ahead on film and whiskey. Hey everybody. Welcome into the film and whiskey podcast. I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie and we are coming at you with another special bonus episode.

0:44 Bonus episode Brad. I'm really excited to share the interview today with our listeners because I I mean, what can you say dude? This is just the epitome of what we have been trying. Do for these last three and a half years, talk about movies and whiskey, they took it one step further, and they've worked in the movie industry and make their own whiskey now. And I just think that this is, I don't know, man. Actually, they've kind of done everything we want to do is. Yeah, it's kind of just hang up the old, hang it up and be done. I was gonna say either, we should hang it up or we should just take it as a glimpse into our own future, you know? Yeah.

1:27 Yeah. We've always talked about starting her own film company. So, Yeah, just throw whiskey and on top of it, man. Wait, I don't want to Vamp any longer. This is a really good conversation. So let's get right into it. We're going to be talking with Troy and Charlie from filmland Spirits. And without further Ado, here's the interview. All right, everybody, we are joined today by two people who I have been waiting months and months to talk to Brad. I'll give you the back story in just a minute, but suffice it to say, we're speaking with a brand today and I don't know if we will ever again speak to a brand that is more aligned with the goals of our podcast than filmland Spirits. Yeah, Bob the, the spirits themselves have just like Lined up perfectly.

2:17 And this is a company that really loves movies and really loves whiskey. And I don't know if I've ever heard of anybody else who feels that way about things. Yeah, so, I mean, we got them on the show specifically, so I could look them in the eye and say, what the hell are you doing? This is our turf, like, back off a little bit here, but we're joined today by Troy balat. Nick, who is the founder and CEO of filmland, spirits, and Charlie Flint, who is the VP of operations, gentlemen? Welcome into filmin whiskey. Thank you very much, super, super happy to be here. Absolutely. Thanks guys, we appreciate it. All right, so let me give a little bit of back story about six months ago, I'm on Instagram and there is a very helpful account on Instagram that just kind of monitors new submissions to the ttb every time a new whiskey label is created. They take a screenshot, they share it with the world. As I saw that there's a brand that's coming out called filmland spirits.

3:12 And they have this cool retro looking bottle design, That looks like an old sci-fi movie poster and I immediately tried to find you guys on Instagram. I said, let's get you on the show and whoever was running your account at the time was like, yes, yes, let's do that. Also we don't actually launch for like six months and so this has been a long time in the making but give us a little bit of a back story of the brand itself. How did filmland spirits come to be? Sure, absolutely. And thank you. Thank you. It's been a lot more than six months for us, actually, but that's true. You mean, it takes longer than six months to get a Distillery off the ground. Oh my gosh. Yes.

3:55 Think about it is a lot like, making a movie right here. Yeah, a lot of stuff, a lot of parallels. So I'll try and keep it as brief as possible. But I mean, Charlie and I have been friends for almost 30 years and have worked together in various Please in the entertainment business and related businesses and non related businesses and we both were both writers. We're both creatives. We both worked in the entertainment industry and I don't know somewhere, 10 years ago, maybe, because Charlie and now lives in Atlanta. I live in LA. We both sort of together and separately got into whiskey, I got into Bourbon and, you know, we just our friendship like took went to the next level when we realized we were both into it and argue Enos, the nerdiness went to Next Level. And when we started visiting distilleries, we would make an annual pilgrimage to Kentucky, right? The motherland and started visiting distilleries there and on one of our annual trips were just driving between Lexington and Louisville.

4:54 As we often would do and said, you know, we had your own brand, we have to Distillery or brand or some, we got to do this. We can do that. As you say, the classic story though is like sitting at the bar about 56 drinks in be like if we should do or opener, Bar right? Exactly. We've had that conversation that conversation in Atlanta in LA, in China everywhere. And there's a lot of places I plan to open a bar and stock it with your own Spirits 100%. Well, guys, tell us a little bit about your history with the film industry because that, like, I'm really curious. We, you know, we talked to all these Distillery owners and we get the whiskey Spiel over and over, and I'm excited to hear about your whiskey.

5:40 But to start here, I am really fascinated with what you guys did in the industry. Yeah, absolutely. I came out to Los Angeles from New York, 30 years ago, to be a writer to be a screenwriter. Specifically, that is what I've wanted to do. Since I can remember, wanting to do anything since five or six years old. And it was an interesting journey. I wrote two movies, I wrote a lot of different things I did just about every job. There is to do on one level or another in the entertainment industry because I started as a production assistant and worked as an associate and line producing and a little bit of directing and a lot of writing So did it all in that regard? And then, you know, one day just said, you know, I love writing and I love the movies but I'm not like the biggest fan of the movie business itself, had some crazy experiences which one day we should make a movie out of, and just, you know, became stood took my passions elsewhere and became a Serial entrepreneur. Yeah, and, and in my case, I actually I didn't move to LA and tending to write or necessarily even be in the entertainment. Attainment industry.

6:46 I actually moved there because Troy had created in the mid-90s, Troy a co-created. One of the first pieces of entertainment on the on the internet, it was a website called the spot. It was essentially Melrose Place on the internet back, when nobody was doing entertainment on the internet and I become a fan, and I was working for a college in the Midwest and Indiana. And as a way of kind of, like, you know, stretching my creative skills and also learning I wrote my search effectively created a website and wrote myself into their storyline and he and his then partner called me up and we're like, you know move to LA and come work with us and do more of this.

7:27 And you know, I assume that it was just a bunch of sketchy dudes in a garage in Culver City California, but they flew me out and they were, in fact, just a bunch of sketchy dudes in a garage and City California, but I took the leap and I moved out and then sew along the way. I've, you know, Troy and I I've written together Troy and I have written. Do you know? I've written with with other writing partners and and have written individually. Obviously I live in Atlanta like Troy mentioned earlier. So clearly not the most successful screenwriter of all time. You know, I did manage to sell a few things on my own and Troy. And I have, I think we sold at a TV, a TV series treatment together, none of it, great.

8:12 And that I did at least and, and If it ever came to, you know, because it never became a full-time career. So I moved on with with my life and now get to go back and kind of revisit that side of, you know, my personal history, you know, in the form of in the different form in the form of, you know, spirit that celebrates the movies and allows us to go back and do some of the writing and be creative the way that we were in the past and develop screenplays, but not necessarily for the big screen instead for a big exciting bottle. So guys we just got back Back over the weekend. From the Kentucky Bourbon Festival, which happens every year in Bardstown Kentucky and we had a booth there and we were interacting with the public a lot and a lot of people kind of kept asking us why movies and whiskey like how did you hit on this topic? And I guess for me because I'm such a movie nerd. It was like, well this just gives me an outlet to talk about things that I'm already talking about and I get to drink whiskey while I do it.

9:10 But I've been trying to think of, you know how to wax poetic about it. I think I have some ideas but I want to pose the question to you guys. First, when you think about these two passions of yours movies and whiskey like, where do you see the intersection there? What are the commonalities and why do those things marry so well, together, what I think, I mean, from a, from the standpoint of making both, right? They when I think about it, they both require the same fundamentals, right? You said passion, art, science creativity. Right there, two things I always I always used to say when I was in the entertainment business. Like I love the science of it, but I also love the art of it and I say the same thing about whiskey when Charlie and I were visiting all those distilleries.

9:53 It's like love tasting. It love. Just the fact that two people can use the exact same process and end up with something that tastes completely different. And yet there's also science in there. And I think, you know, we always say one of our little lines for film, Landers, you know, we we craft with whiskey with a movie making mindset and that's really where it comes from is, is the approaches the same as those? Four, fundamental pillars of passion, art science and creativity. Yeah, I would agree and like Troy said, we've talked about it a lot, I would say another thing is just Community, right? There are a lot of, there are a lot of, you know, Hobbies or industries that people get very passionate about but Spirits whiskey and particular bourbon in particular and films are two of the ones that, you know, like personally I've gotten the most involved in, but I find people that are super passionate about them, right? Like, I don't know any, well, certainly, there are people who have, you know, rooms and rooms full of Beanie. He's or whatever, but not nearly as many as there are with rooms and rooms full of whiskey.

10:54 I know people who have massive bourbon Collections and and I'm sure you guys do too. I know people who have massive film Collections and and often they're the same people, you know? And it's just, I think that there to, you know, that they are, that are there to two topics that people can get really passionate very opinionated about, you know, there's, there's the movie that Troy loves I might not. I love as much Logan's Run, there could be Whiskey's the try loves that. I might not love as much and you know, everybody perceives both of these things both of these Arts differently. And I think that's part of what makes it really cool. I'm in bringing the two together is exactly that.

11:37 Right? Like, you know, it gave us an opportunity to geek out in creating, you know, Concepts Creative Concepts that we thought would be really interesting, but at the same time, it also gave us a chance to geek out creating a, you know, Taste profiles and products that we think tastes really great as well. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I've I mean I've been thinking about this question for the last couple days to and I just I really think that when you look at the history of movies and you look at some of the earliest films ever made, you know, that that classic short film of the train pulling into the station. And then if you watch scorsese's Hugo, he shows how people were leaping out of their seats, right? Because they thought the train was going to come through the screen and move.

12:20 These were something for the people and of the people when they first started they have always been something that has appealed to the masses to the poorest of the poor people. And yet immediately you see guys like like melies come in and in France and start applying art to that and saying like I'm going to make a trip to the moon and it's going to have these crazy special effects. And we're going to try double exposures and whatever, and Whiskey's the same way. Like, whiskey started in areas of the world and is still famous. Scotland like historically oppressed right and and Kentucky like they were poor people in the Hills that shared this thing with each other and there's just something about how movies and whiskey can be the Pinnacle of artistry and can also be something that is just for the people. And I think that there's very few things in the world that can really cover that span as well as both of those things can. I think that's very, very nicely put. I think that's a fantastic perspective. Well thanks, I've been practicing it for like three days as you were saying it.

13:24 I was thinking myself and and both are fantastic. You know, means of escapism, right? Like if you've had a terrible day at work, go home, put on a great movie and just kind of let the world go away. If you do it with a glass of a great bourbon in your hand, I guess it goes even further. Well let's let's do that. Let's pivot a little bit into talking about the whiskey that you guys are making Brad. I'm going to throw over to you because I know that you were the one that really wanted to ask a lot of questions about The whiskey itself. I mean, first off, whoever, your marketing team is Rise of the robots and Moonlight Escape. I believe it is my Megan Moonlight Mayhem, I apologize are two of the best, you know, labels for whiskey that I've ever heard of tell me about you guys is initial lineup because I'm seeing a rye a bourbon and a cask strength bourbon but we can forget about that for a second.

14:16 You guys have the coolest labels in the world and I You to tell me all about them. Sure. Absolutely. And that was, you know, that was sort of what in a way what we set out to do like when, when we were conceiving film land and his concept, we knew we wanted labels that stood out. We knew we wanted labels that we could be ourselves and express our humor and are sarcasm and you know, just sort of sometimes silliness and sometimes seriousness. And so we had that framework and then it came down to one of our Founders. I was sitting with him and he we've been banging our heads against the wall, as to what, you know what the concept should be four months and we were at that point where it's like, nothing's going to work. Everything's done, everybody did its trademark. We can't do it and then all of a sudden and he's a podcast host and he started interviewing me and he started asking me what I'm passionate about and I started talking about writing and the movies and he said to me, you know, Troy I've never heard you talk this passionately about anything else except whiskey and we're looking at each other like oh We should put those together and that's, that's kind of where it came from.

15:23 And like, 6 seconds later, rise of the robots blurted out of my mouth. It was a because it was actually originally had a longer name because I thought we wanted to do it, you know, beam, these are meant to pay homage to the B movies of the mid-twentieth century. Yep, right. Big over-the-top plots and characters monsters robots, aliens, that kind of thing. And those movies tend to have, you know, like Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. They have a rhythm to the titles originally, I It was going to be rise of the robot. Bartenders and then for reasons of fitting on the label and some other reasons, we shortened it to rise of the robots, which everybody seems to like better anyway, but so, so, one thing I want to sort of say, is that a lot of people in the process they kind of asked us questions about, like, well is it based on, you know, drives the robots based on a movie, is it based on? And I have this like weird concept of it's hard to get across that in my mind, there is no difference between the liquid and the movie.

16:19 There were 1 ml, right? And so it like people say like, you know, there's a story of the liquid, then the liquid is the story and that kind of thing, it's all together and it's I'll find a more eloquent way of putting that. But in my mind, they're all wine. So we came up with this idea of Rise of the robots, right? And our heroine Courtney. And and then we went and we found liquid. You know obviously we source and we found, we found liquid that we loved and and then Charlie and I along with a couple of other men Of our team went to Kentucky and and started blending and started. You know, we have a we have a whole bunch of barrels and we started sampling them and blending them together until we found a Blanton. That is exactly what we wanted.

17:02 We were aiming for and got it into got into this particular product and then we did the same thing with the bourbon when my Mayhem is that, you know, story of where it's basically Romeo and Juliet with fangs is what we always say. And it's like it's a world where the dominant species. He's on the planet are werewolves and humans are like the minority like every type of humans, just minority shoved off to the side, you know, has to serve the werewolves that kind of thing. And of course, this young kid is just loves The Nightlife where the werewolves all hang out on Hollywood Boulevard and he falls in love with the, you know, the beautiful young woman who's older, brother is the leader of the pack, you know, that kind of thing.

17:42 And so, we did the same process, you know, tasting. And we had, we had days, we tasted 50 different barrels of the course of three or four days. Right. And and just found that that taste profile that we wanted because we both, you know, we're both very particular about our whiskey and we both like certain things and we said let's make sure that what we make has everything that we both like in it. I think it's really apparent. How much thought has been put into each of these bottles of whiskey and like you're saying now there's a whole there's a whole treatment for a movie Behind each of these and go ahead good. No, I can see. You're gonna we wrote a treatment for each of them. So we have a three or four paid treatment, which we wrote before we ever did the label.

18:27 So when we started working with artists we gave them the treatment. We said here you got to read this and then we took them through the movie to help them, you know? And we gave them the In for what we wanted, on the label. What we wanted the poster to be, but we make sure everybody that we work with reads those treatments and understands the story. Because like I said, the story is the liquid, the liquid is the store, that's incredible. I mean, and I think it carries over to into the actual bottle, not just the label because the label, you know, you guys have, you know, your names and and the proof and everything kind of printed on there. Like credits would be printed on a poster. But when you look at the bottle itself and I have to ask about the bottles like where these Cuts do I made for you guys.

19:07 Did you just find something that kind of looked like, it could be spun into this because it's hard to describe to the listeners but there's like a like the rim around the outside of the bottle. Looks like sprockets on a film reel and it I mean it's just incredible. It's like I keep finding a little Easter eggs on this bottle. That just show the care that and the love that you guys have for Cinema on here. Yeah, I mean, we still the bottles are completely custom, you know, from scratch. What are their hours? There's nothing else out there like it and they are meant that, like, they're both inspired by and meant to evoke sort of like the art deco style of 1930s movie theaters?

19:51 Yeah, if you think about it, the way I was thinking about is the bottle itself is the theater. It's the presidium, right? And then the poster is the movie within it. And so, that's what it's really meant to do. Is the To lose the bottles represents that we are serious about everything we're doing, right? We're serious about the whiskey were serious about this brand. We're serious about quality and taste and all of that because our labels are meant to say, we love to make fun of ourselves and everybody else and have a great time. Yeah, right. And so, it's like, it's meant to be a combination of that. But the base of the bottle is a kinetoscope like the Edison kinetoscope. Uh-huh. That's so, you know, I'm talking about where the original movie you mentioned before like the horse running in circles. Yep.

20:32 And then our closure is actually sort of a combination between a film reel and a film can. So when you look at it from the side it's kind of a film reel but when you look at it from the top, it's a bit of a film can. Yeah. I love it. Charlie. I want to ask you to, you know, Troy's been talking about the inspiration being kind of these Art Deco movie theaters, are you know, movie palaces did you guys have one of those movie theaters in your lives when you were kids? Because Brad and I are from Northeast Ohio, and one of the cool things here is, we have them all. Reflexes. But there are still a number of these really great old movie. Theaters, we have one down in Canton, Ohio. And there's also one here in Akron the Civic Theater, and they're the ones that have like the nighttime sky at the top of the theater with the little stars in it. And I don't know, I just, I'd love to hear about like what was your theater like that when you were both growing up? Yeah, well you mentioning that immediately evokes in my head. One of the most classic beautiful, you know, old old style theaters.

21:32 And it's there in l.a., it's the Egyptian, which is an absolutely gorgeous theater for an LA and you haven't been, I highly recommend. It still has the organ. They they, you know, they have the lights and all of that on the ceiling myself. I grew up I'm an army brat, so I grew up moving all over the all over the world and usually on the army base, there would be a movie theater and it was kind of you know, the movie theater wasn't elaborate like that. It was also used for, you know, like assemblies and briefings or things like that. And there was no such thing as a multiplex, you know you got to watch whatever was showing at that time and it was usually a couple of years behind what was especially abroad? It was a couple of years behind what was showing in the US. So you know like we didn't exactly get a see the the new stuff.

22:20 But what I always remember when somebody asked me to kind of reflect on like going to the movies as a kid, is that before the movie would actually play in a military movie theater? They probably still do it. Today. The national anthem plays almost like at a sporting event, you have to stand up and put your hand on your heart and, you know, like wait for the national anthem to end and then it's play ball and the movie starts. So I never as a kid. I never, really got to experience some of these classic theaters really until I moved to LA. And like I said, the Egyptian to me is the epitome of like the classic, beautiful green, a grand, you know, like Art Deco style, movie, theater, complete with, you know, with organs and the lights and all of that. Like, yeah.

23:07 So first of all, Charlie and I have known each other. Like I said, almost 30 years and he just said something. I've never heard him say before. So thank you guys. It's hard to. It's hard to do because we've spent a lot of time together for me, it's all. So it wasn't necessarily growing up because I have vague memories of like a theater called The Gables. Unlike the main street, I grew up on Long Island in New York, and but I don't remember it being particularly ornate. It was when I moved to California, I was suddenly going to, you know, I don't know what it's called anymore, it used to be called man's and then there's the El Capitan, these are like the Hollywood Boulevard theaters but then I moved to Westwood which had more movie theaters per capita than any other city or town in the entire country. And I was walking distance to all of them and did nothing but go to the movies like constantly and a theater. I mean maybe a block and a half from my house, I think it was called the Pacific and I and Disney one point bought it and actually owned it.

24:06 And it is exactly what you guys are. Describing you go in. It's all Art Deco. It's colorful like the whole presidium is exactly what we're all picturing and then the movie starts in the OR sort of the experience starts in the music plays and everybody looks up at the star-filled sky and just sits there and waits for that. Comet to go across the sky to shoot across and the light, and it like, made the experience. So I think that that's the theater that I always keep in my head and then a previous business that In one of my entrepreneurial effort, was actually designing and building movie theaters for high-end residential homes, here in Los Angeles. And so, we would design theaters that looked like that that had on the art deco style that have the Starfield ceiling and that kind of thing, guys. How great our movies?

24:53 This is just like, just grinning from ear to ear over here, and before we let you go, we were floated a name and Charlie you've already dropped. This name here, we usually call this series, my favorite. Movie. But it sounds like in true film, and whiskey fashion. There's actually a bit of contentiousness about this favorite movie. So I think it's Troy's favorite movie. So Troy, why don't you introduce us to your favorite film? Okay, well to be fair, I think Charlie and you guys referring to Logan's Run, I would not say it. Logan's Run is my favorite film Logan's Run, is the film the first film I ever saw in the theater when I was six years old. Wow, at least I remember seeing but I have vivid memories of sitting it. And it made me want to be a writer because it terrified the heck out of me and Delight.

25:42 Like made me crazy excited at the same time it was so scary to think, oh my gosh, you have to die when you're 30 and you're going to get exploded in this Carousel thing. And it just terrified me and I could, like, I had nightmares about it, but I couldn't stop thinking about it, right? So, I would not call that my favorite film. You know. I haven't hang on before you go any further. I got to point out. Like, I just re-watched this movie in advance of this conversation, because I haven't seen It in probably decades and that's a wildly inappropriate movie for a six-year-old boy. Horrified, that that's what you were seeing at the age of 6. I watched it, I re-watched it as well with my girlfriend who had never seen it. And she was like, who took you to see this? When you listen act, as I said this, this sounds like an origin story where Batman is like terrified of the bats in the Opera and Troy is terrified of the, the getting blown up in a carousel, right?

26:33 Exactly. But to be fair, the movie was rated. G and back. Then there was no PG-13. So parents probably didn't notice the anatomy for a PG movie 70s were a wild time, but it's bragging on that point. Brad. Like there is this sub-genre of 70s dystopian Sci-Fi movies that were also like huge hits. You know, we talk about like people always talk about how Blade Runner, you know, comes out in 82 and doesn't do well the at Wrigley but in the 70s, you've got movie. Like Logan's Run, you've got Charlton, Heston and Soylent Green. Like I think about all these movies and it's like what were people looking for in the 70s that this was like the populist entertainment? You know what I mean?

27:19 And Brad, we've done this series of 70s movies and how the cynicism was running deep in general. But like, especially in the Sci-Fi movies, it seems like this kind of thing just kept coming out. Well, even in the decade before, like one of the most famous moves. All of all time is Planet of the Apes, sure, right? And it This super cynical look at humanity and what we're going to do to ourselves. So yeah, I'm kind of curious what was going on in the 60s and 70s. I don't think there is any problems. No, I'm if there's one thing they say about the 60s and 70s, it's that. Nothing ever went wrong, right? All right. Charlie, I got to hear it from you.

27:59 Troy picked a movie. You gotta say something before we let you guys out of here today. So you guys are gonna, you guys are gonna laugh. And I think Troy knows what my all-time favorite movie is and whenever I say it, people are usually kind of surprised. So it is literally, as polar opposite of a film. As you can possibly get from from these dystopian like 70, late 60s, and 70s era movies. I'm a, I'm a big fan of George Miller, and babe. Yes. The talking pigment baseball player movie, Babe is my all-time favorite movie. I watched it more times on. I can tell you, I've watched it on my own. I watched it with my kids, I've watched it in the theater. I cry every friggin time. I absolutely, I think it's like the perfect movie. It's just it's full of Hope and it tells a great story of acceptance and it's very well directed. The sequel was trash, but the original babe, bye bye. George Miller, is, is my all-time favorite movie. Absolutely.

28:59 My wife is like notoriously bad at memorizing or like remembering movie lines, but for some Reason the one thing that stuck and she said, she's like, I haven't even watched Bay baton as a kid, but she always remembers the bar, am you lied? I mean, it's just like ingrained in her Consciousness. So so actually this brings up a total tangent, tangental quick, mini story, but one of the companies that try now work that eons ago was starting up an entertainment division for America online, and I was a producer, I was behind the scenes, but I kind of been I think some of the on-air talent and so they're like, alright Charlie next interview you're going to do because, you know, keep running your mouth so much.

29:44 And oh my God, I'm blanking. How can I do this? I'm James Cromwell who played the farmer in babe, was the next Talent they came in and so they had me going interview him. And the reason this is relevant, is it was my very first interview much. Like this is our very first podcast but this brand and he was an extremely good sport. It was a great interview. He's kind of a Nutty guy who, you know, like believes in UFOs and you know like got off on all these super fun tangents. But anyways at the end I said to him you know, so this was my first interview. How did it go? And of course he graced me by saying that'll do Charlie. That'll do.

30:24 I could probably get weepy just thinking about it right now. Oh man. Listen for a guy that is like a words of affirmation guy. Charlie, I feel that to have James Cromwell. Tell you, that'll do. Well guys, I mean, it doesn't mean as much coming from us as it does from James Cromwell, but having tasted this whiskey, having talk to you about the brand and having seen the passion that you've put into this. I think Brad. And I would both say that'll do to both of you as well. Something tells me this is not going to be our last conversation. It's really rare that we get someone on the podcast. That is this passionate about both of the things that we love on here. So you guys have an open, invitation come back whenever you'd like Help Us guest host.

31:06 You know, we can we can look at Logan's Run and just invite Charlie and we can just, you know, trash it if we want to, that's that's great. Awesome. We would love to come back. You guys are awesome. This has been great. Yeah, absolutely. Big fan. So I've been a listener for a while, so it's actually a real privilege to join you guys and meet you in person. Well, thanks again. This has been Troy blotnick, and Charlie Flint from filmland Spirits. Be on the lookout for this whiskey. It is fantastic stuff and it is Tillman whiskey approved for sure will be back on Monday with another regularly scheduled episode. But until then I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and we'll see you next time.