Nov. 4, 2019
When Harry Met Sally... / Redbreast Lustau
Bob and Brad finally watch a movie that neither of them had seen before, 1989's "When Harry Met Sally..." and move on to the next in their Redbreast lineup.
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27:23 - Redbreast Lustau Review
36:42- Analysis and Final Thoughts
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Sound effects via Daniel Simion and espectral
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Robots, radio presents in 1989
director, Rob Reiner, and stars,
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Billy, Crystal, and Meg, Ryan
gave the world a Thun formula
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that would set the genre of
rom-com for years to come in
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2019.
We return to Ireland for the
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first time in season 2.
The movie is, When Harry Met
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Sally, the whiskey is redbreast
lost.
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Ow.
And we'll review them both.
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This is the film and whiskey
podcast.
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Welcome to the film and whiskey
podcast were each week.
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We review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.
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I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie and
this week, we are looking at the
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1989 romantic comedy classic
When Harry Met Sally.
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Now, Read every week.
I asked you, if you had seen
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this movie before, but I think I
tipped us off a little bit last
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week when I said, I have
actually never seen When Harry
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Met Sally.
So you might actually have a leg
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up on me this week.
Yeah, I honestly don't because I
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had never seen it before, but I
also love that you said that you
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might have tipped us off that
you hadn't seen it.
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Yeah.
And I just want to inform you,
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that that would mean that you
might have indicated that you
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hadn't seen it, but you flat out
I said last week, I haven't seen
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this movie.
That's more than tipping us off.
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I explicitly stated that I had
not seen this movie but I'm
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really excited.
So the way that we had actually
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set up the schedule for season
two, we had initially had a
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different movie slotted in.
For this week, we're going to be
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talking about Woody, Allen's
movie Annie Hall and for a
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couple reasons, number one,
being the whole Woody Allen
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controversy right now, and
number two being the fact that
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of Woody, Allen's movies.
I just don't care for Annie Hall
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that much.
I thought maybe this was a good
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time to try to sub something.
Sin.
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And it gave me a reason to watch
a different romantic comedy.
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One that's kind of in the same
vein as Annie Hall, but it
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checked the movie off my list.
And I'm really, really happy
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that we put When Harry Met Sally
into the list.
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Yeah, I 100% agree with you.
Bob, I had heard of this movie
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and obviously had never watched
it, but it did sound like one of
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those Classics of like, oh,
yeah, When Harry Met Sally.
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I should probably watch that
movie.
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And I was really blown away by
this movie is very impressive,
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but I'm, I am glad that we got
at it here on the list.
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And honestly, I feel like the
podcast as a whole has not
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brought filming whiskey Nation,
many reviews on rom-coms.
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So, I'm really excited to jump
into this genre.
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Yeah, I am too.
So, I guess Brad.
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Why don't we kick it off right
here at the beginning?
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With Brad explains.
And then, let's just take it
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wherever we want to go.
Because like you said, we
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haven't really talked a lot
about rom-coms.
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I think we can talk a lot about
the script of this movie, the
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direction, and the way that Rob
Reiner does sort of visual punch
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lines and the performances but
Before we get to that, Brad.
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Can you explain the movie When
Harry Met Sally?
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Yeah, Harry's a juror.
Excel is a perfectionist.
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They fall in love the end.
Wow, I'm pretty sure that was
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four seconds long.
Yeah.
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I'm impressed that they did,
they do fall in love.
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But what I love about this movie
is that, it happens over such a
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long period of time and the
whole like premise of the film
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is that they hate each other for
a long period of time until they
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don't.
And I think the course of the
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movie, it takes place Over what
like 10 12 years something like
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that?
I think it's about 12 years all
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together.
Yeah and I like that this movie
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goes for the Long play, you
know, it starts when they're in
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college but the fact that it's
about two people who go through
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the ins and outs of life, you
know, he goes through a divorce,
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she goes through, a really tough
long-term relationship,
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something about this movie, just
feels a little bit more grown up
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and mature than most romantic
comedies do.
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Yeah, I think that one of the
advantages that TV Is have over.
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Movies is the raw film time that
you get the consumer to sit in
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front of your product.
So, like, TV shows, you might
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sit in front of, you know,
watching the office for, you
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know, hundreds of hours over
re-watch over re-watch, whereas,
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like, I might watch When Harry
Met Sally, two more times in my
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life, which means I will have
spent about six hours watching
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this movie.
And so with that it can be
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really difficult for movies to
help you fall in love with
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characters.
Whereas TV shows you have
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hundreds of episodes to, you
know, dive into who a character
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is.
And so I what I think that When
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Harry Met Sally gives you is an
opportunity to see people change
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over a Year's worth of time and
it helps you fall in love with
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the characters because you see
that they've changed from who
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they used to be to who they are
now and it kind of gives you a
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grasp on who they are.
Yeah, and I think that's a
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really good point Brad.
Is that both of these lead
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performances, I think are just
phenomenal but you also See
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their personalities change over
the years with romantic
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comedies.
So often you get like a cliche
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or a Trope and especially with
the female characters, they play
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the exact same notes, all
through the movie.
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And I especially was blown away
by Meg Ryan and this film,
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because she does go from being
this sort of ambitious,
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idealistic uptight person in the
early going of the movie to a
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much more laid-back and in some
ways cynical and kind of jaded
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person after she has her big
break up, but you watch the
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progression.
Aggression of how all of their
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rough edges kind of gets sanded
off.
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And I think that's what really
draws me to this film.
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And what makes me think that it
is a sort of, more mature movie.
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Yeah.
And the other beautiful thing
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about them moving through time
for such, you know, long period
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is that you don't have to
suspend your disbelief to think.
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Oh, you know, these people
couldn't have fallen in love
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over a three-day period And I
think that's one of the biggest
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problems with rom-coms is that
most human beings when they
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Watch movies like that.
They understand you don't fall
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in love with somebody over a two
or three-day period, you know,
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that's not to say it's never
happened but it's hard when you
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watch rom-coms to think.
Oh yeah, this could represent
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real life.
Whereas, with When Harry Met
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Sally, it's believable.
I could see them falling in
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love, over a 10 to 12 year
period, of kind of being
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friends, kind of not liking each
other slowly finding you know,
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things that they both like and
enjoy and it's a realistic
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depiction.
Action of falling in love and I
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really like that.
So why don't we just kind of go
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through the movie as it
progresses?
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This movie starts off?
With opening titles, that really
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are reminiscent of a Woody Allen
movie and Brad, I don't know how
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many Woody Allen films you've
seen, but they kind of always
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start with this.
Black screen stylized script
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that go through the whole
credits.
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Before the movie starts, this
movie does kind of owe a debt to
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The Comedy of Woody Allen
because even though it Billy
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Crystal plays his character,
it's a little bit more of a
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regular guy than Woody.
Is but it's still sort of this
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neurotic sex-obsessed nebbish
Jewish guy.
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So like it's definitely in the
vein of a Woody Allen and I
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really liked that, they
acknowledged it that they leaned
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into it from the beginning,
Brad.
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Have you ever seen a Woody Allen
film?
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So I'm literally looking on my
phone right now.
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I'm scrolling through Woody
Allen movies.
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I have never seen a Woody Allen
film.
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Yeah, I mean, I do think we'll
get to some eventually on the
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podcast.
I don't know that this is like
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this is the moment for the
podcast to be addressing
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everything that's going on with
Woody.
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Allen right now.
I'm really glad we didn't do any
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Hall, but for now we'll just say
this movie is indebted to his
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style of comedy.
And so moving on from that, what
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I really liked about the way the
movie starts is like you get the
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title When Harry Met Sally.
And then the first shot of the
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movie is Billy Crystal making
out with someone that's not
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Sally.
Yeah, I really loved that
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because it sets the terms for
the relationship from the very
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start of the movie, the opening
scene of any movie is the
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directors first.
To tell the audience.
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You know what?
They need to know about this
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movie.
And so from the very GetGo, you
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know, that this is going to be
an adversarial relationship
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between Harry and Sally.
And I also really enjoy later in
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the movie when they run into
each other.
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Again, I think, for the first
time it's about five years later
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and they're in this airport and
she goes, I can't even remember
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that girlfriend's name and then
she, you know tries to make him
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feel bad for not remembering the
girlfriend's name.
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It's just this fun.
Fun playful, you know, kind of
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antagonistic relationship that
they have that they continue
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throughout the movie and they
set it up from the very opening
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scene, they really do.
And I just really briefly.
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I want to comment on this
because I want to get your
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thoughts Brad.
I think for the most part, they
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do a really good job of making
Billy Crystal look younger than
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he is throughout the movie.
But in that very opening shot,
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it's a close-up of him kissing
his girlfriend and he's supposed
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to be like 21 22.
And you can see all the great
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Airs in his hair and I think
that was the only shot of the
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movie where I was like, wow,
this is they did a pretty bad
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job here because for the rest of
the film, I didn't notice it so
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much.
Hey man, life at the University
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of Chicago was rough.
All right.
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He really studied hard to be a
lawyer there?
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Whatever, he ended up doing.
I have just as much of a dark
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side as the next person.
Oh, really.
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When I buy a new book, I always
read the last page first that
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way in case I die before I
finish.
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I Know How It Ends that my
friend, is it Darkseid, that
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doesn't mean you're deep or
anything.
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I mean, yes.
Basically, I'm a happy person so
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much, and I don't see that.
There's anything wrong with
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that.
Of course, not you too busy
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being happy.
You ever think about death?
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Yes, sure.
You do a fleeting thought that
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was in and out of the transom of
your mind.
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I spent hours, I spend days and
you think this makes you a
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better person comes down.
I'm going to be prepared and
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you're not, that's all I'm
saying.
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Meantime, you're going to ruin
your whole life waiting for it.
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I want to get your thoughts on
this bread and I think it's time
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for us to talk a little bit
about the lead performances and
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we've touched on Meg Ryan.
What do you think of the idea of
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Billy Crystal sex symbol in this
movie?
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I really struggled with that
because if I'm completely
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honest, I don't think Billy
Crystal is an incredibly
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attractive man and so to see him
as a sex symbol, AS like he's
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just sleeping with women all
around, all over the place.
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I just kind of I kind of went
huh.
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That's interesting.
What's really funny is that I
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think I had the opposite
reaction because I'm really used
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to Billy Crystal Oscar host or
Billy Crystal Mike Wazowski, you
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know.
Yeah.
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And I've never seen him lean
more into kind of the more
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Charming side.
The more sensitive side that he
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does in this movie.
I think the way he looks at Meg
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Ryan the way that he has this
really wry smile.
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It's not so much the cynical
Billy Crystal.
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Now that I'm used to cracking,
you know, like making wise
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cracking jokes at the Oscars.
It was a much more playful and I
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actually, I thought it really
worked and I like halfway
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through the movie.
I was like yeah I could see
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this.
I could see how women would find
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this man attractive.
Yeah.
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I mean you are kind of used to
Billy Crystal with that, you
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know.
And you've never had it so good
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type of humor just, you know,
coming out all the time.
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Sure, you do get a different
side of him in this movie, that
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I really do enjoy.
He, he kind of commands the
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camera.
Every he's on screen.
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He has this magnetism that I
guess.
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Yeah, maybe you're right.
Baba.
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I can understand why he would be
so attractive to women, you
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know, in the 1980s and yet
that's not really like
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something.
That was a trademark of the
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Billy Crystal Brand.
I think this movie really went
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out of its way to make him be
more appealing.
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And that way, you know I don't
think if you asked like the
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typical woman on the street in
the 1980s tell me what you think
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of Billy Crystal, that this
would be something that they
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would think of because You know,
just a couple of years before
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this movie, he's in The Princess
Bride and he's got this horribly
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disfigured old man makeup on.
He's the guy that slips in and
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out of character and so I think
to, to hang a romantic comedy on
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the believability of Billy
Crystal as your romantic lead
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was kind of a gutsy move but I
really think it paid off well
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and one of the reasons he did so
well is because I think that the
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script was written beautifully
for him at the very start of the
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movie.
I don't know if I've ever seen a
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movie.
It's so well where they portray
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that idealistic young college
student, who has it all figured
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out, you know, he's very cocky
and he's self-assured and he
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knows all the answers to life
and death and and he just comes
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across as this self-assured
young man, who knows everything
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he needs from the world.
But five years later, and five
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years after that, you begin to
understand that.
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He's grown, he's changed.
And the script was written
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extremely well to show.
Oh, those changes and to give
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him depth as a character, I
completely agree.
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And the script was written by
Nora Ephron, who would go on to
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be, you know, the preeminent
writer and some time director of
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romantic comedies all through
the 1990s and 2000s.
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And I think this might be her
best script because it was so
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rooted in real life.
You know, she had had this
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conversation about can men and
women really truly be friends
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without there being that sexual
tension.
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Underlying it and the movie came
out of that.
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But what I love about this, Does
that it plays so strongly into
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the strengths of its two leads
Meg, Ryan in that opening scene,
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where she's driving him in the
car, she is just nailing that
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sort of uptight and yet still
adorable character and then
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you've got him looking like a
schlub sitting next to her in
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the car spitting.
His grape into the window
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because he thinks it's rolled
down and just generally being a
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cocky slob and to have those two
things right next to each other.
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I think it Come across a little
too, like, on the nose, but the
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way they played in this movie,
it's just perfect.
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And I had a stupid grin on my
face for like the whole film,
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just because of how clever, how
witty and how perfect the script
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was honestly that those early
shots of Sally, kind of reminded
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me of like Ann-Margret from Bye.
Bye Birdie.
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Just kind of that young innocent
blond that, you know, knows what
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she wants in life.
But for some reason that Real
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just kind of reminded me of
that.
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Yeah, that's really interesting
because I actually wrote down a
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comparison to and I was really
Blown Away by how much Meg, Ryan
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reminded me of Ginger Rogers in
this movie.
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And we haven't watched a Fred
and ginger movie on this
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podcast.
We might someday.
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But particularly for me, it's
the way she used her eyes.
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The way she really stood up to
Billy Crystal.
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It reminded me so much of the
way that Ginger Rogers would
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interact with Fred Astaire's
characters in their movies.
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And I think that Meg, Ryan kind
of has this reputation of only
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being a romantic, Antic comedy
actress.
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As if like, that's something to
be looked down upon, but
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throughout this movie, I just
thought that this performance
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was just fantastic, because she
ages herself from really young
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and idealistic, and ambitious to
older, and jaded and hurt.
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But she hits all of those notes.
So, beautifully, she delivers an
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amazing performance in this
movie.
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And I think really, the reason
this movie does so well, is
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because their performances are
so grounded.
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I A problem that a lot of
rom-coms face is that the
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characters are over-the-top and
kind of observed, you know what
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I mean?
And they're just they're just
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kind of ridiculous people that
wouldn't exist in the real world
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where as Harry and Sally are
real people.
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They have real friends who are
normal and they, you know, they
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lived normal lives.
They might not live a normal
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life that somebody in the
midwest would understand of a,
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you know, a New Yorker, but it
was believable and they both
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deliver those performances
perfectly.
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I I truly was blown away by
Billy Crystal and Meg, Ryan in
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this movie.
And I think if I had to pick one
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that I was even more impressed
by, for me, it would be Meg Ryan
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just because she's not, she
wasn't a professional comedian,
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the way Billy Crystal is.
And so when Nora Ephron gives
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Sally, so many punchlines to
finish scenes, you really have
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to know your, a, your comedic
timing.
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And B, you have to know how to
deliver a punch line and Meg.
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Ryan always delivers them really
straight and I think that's what
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makes them really fun.
But, like, in particular in that
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early scene, where they go to
the diner together and they're
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talking about how Meg Ryan broke
up with her boyfriend and they
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talk about the days of the week
underwear.
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Yeah.
And how her boyfriend didn't
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believe that they didn't make
Sunday and Billy Crystal asks
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her, why don't they make Sunday
in the punch line is because of
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God and it's the way that her
face is resting when she
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delivers that line, I laughed
out loud and and I was just so
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shocked at how Good of a
comedienne Meg, Ryan was in this
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movie.
She held, she holds her own
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against one of Cinema's, best
comedians of all time.
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And the other part about that
scene, that's so brilliant.
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Is that they just oppose it with
a scene later in the movie where
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they're at lunch again and
they're talking about sex again.
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And instead of talking about how
you know, we don't we don't talk
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about sex on Sunday because of
God Meg, Ryan goes into this, I
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don't know 30 seconds.
Fake orgasm.
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That might have been the
funniest part of the movie, but
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I love how they use that to show
how her character has developed,
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from being a young naive college
student to, you know, a woman in
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her early 30s.
Yeah.
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And that's the most famous scene
in the movie and the crazy thing
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is, I've probably seen that
scene 50 times just on TV in,
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you know, clips of funniest
movie scenes things like that
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and in the context of the movie,
even knowing it was coming and
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And knowing the punchline of
that scene and it being
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ingrained in pop culture like
it's still works and it's still
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hilarious.
And I think that's the mark of a
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perfectly written joke.
Yeah, the funny thing about that
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was, I've actually seen the clip
of the old woman saying, I'll
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have what she's having, but I
had never actually seen the clip
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of Meg.
Ryan faking an orgasm in the
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middle of a New York Cafe, so
it's still hit me and it's just
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so awkward and it's absolutely
perfect at that beat of the It
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fits beautifully.
So in one of the most famous
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castings ever in Hollywood, Rob
Reiner actually cast his mom to
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deliver that line that Cafe
scene.
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I did not know that.
That's, yeah, that's a fun piece
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of trivia from When Harry Met
Sally.
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So, Brad before, before we move
into the next part of our show,
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I want to ask you about at the
very beginning of the movie,
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even before we meet Harry and
Sally.
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And then all throughout the
movie, they these little sort of
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interstitials are these little
skits?
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Almost of old people who have
been married for a long time,
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kind of talking about how they
got married, and some of them
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are funnier than others, and it
kind of makes you wonder what
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the role of those are in the
movie.
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And I think, for a long time, I
was trying to, like, correlate
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them to where Harry and Sally
were in their relationship.
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I don't know if they necessarily
do correlate, and I'm kind of
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wondering.
What were your thoughts on those
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little interstitials?
Did you think they work?
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Did you think they were
necessarily Siri, did they fit
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in the movie?
I thought that those little cute
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interludes with elderly couples
telling, you know, the early
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parts of their love story were
absolutely amazing.
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They were adorable.
They were fun and I thought that
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they really paste the movie.
Well, because you would kind of
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Hit the low beat where a scene
would finish.
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And then you'd have that small
scene with an elderly couple
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just kind of giggling about
their their love story.
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And then it would slowly move
into a new era.
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Are in the relationship between
Harry and Sally and I thought
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that they worked brilliantly as
a pacing piece to help Pace the
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movie.
Now, I will say, for a little
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while, I was like, oh, I wonder
if these are people, you know,
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from the movie that are in
relationships and we're seeing
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them at the end of the
relationship, and we're going to
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see Harry and Sally at the end
of the movie really old.
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So there were, there was a
little confusion with them but
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after the third or fourth one, I
think he begin to realize that
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these are just R.
Just other examples of people
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with crazy stories on how they
fell in love, and I think that
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it worked perfectly to
illustrate the entire message of
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this movie.
What I'm saying is and this is
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not a come on, in any way shape
or form is that men and women
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can't be friends because the sex
part always gets in the way.
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That's not true.
I have a number of men friends
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and there is no sex involved.
Yes I do.
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Yes I do.
You're saying I'm having sex
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with these men without my
knowledge.
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No.
What I'm saying is they all want
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to have sex with you.
They do not they do not because
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no man can be friends with a
woman that he finds attractive.
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He always wants to have sex with
her.
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So you're saying that a man can
be friends with a woman.
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He finds unattractive.
Know you pretty much want to
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nail him too.
What if they don't want to have
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sex with, you doesn't matter
because the sex thing is already
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out there so the Friendship is
ultimately doomed and that is
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the end of the story.
Well, I guess we're not gonna be
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friends, then guess not.
I think last thing we should
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say, before we move into our
whiskey segment, is that this
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movie really only has four
characters in it.
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You know, there's some side
periphery characters, but it's
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Billy Crystal and Meg, Ryan as
Harry and Sally, and then Carrie
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Fisher as Sally's friend Marie
and Bruno, Kirby, as Harry's,
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friend, Jess.
And the funniest thing in the
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movie really from a narrative
standpoint, is the fact that
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those two end up getting
together, but I loved the
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casting of the best.
Friends, I don't think no
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romantic comedy is complete
without a good best friend, but
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I didn't feel like these two
best friends were like the
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cliches.
And maybe they were the ones
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that inspired the cliche is over
the next, you know, 30 years.
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But these felt like real people
they I mean they had their
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Ridiculousness to them.
But what was funny about the way
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they interacted with each other
was Harry and Sally.
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Put up with the Ridiculousness
of their friends and it really
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kind of hits home and it's
relatable.
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What did you think of the two?
Says from Bruno Kirby and Carrie
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Fisher.
I especially enjoyed Bruno
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Kirby.
I thought that he was perfect.
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As his best friend, he kind of
pointed out the Ridiculousness
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of Harry.
Not wanting to be with Sally for
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such a long time.
He's funny, he's interesting.
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He delivers one-liners really
well.
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I also enjoyed Carrie Fisher.
I was just super confused and
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this isn't really her fault.
It's the script, the only point
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of the script that I had maybe
some frustration with and Maybe
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I just don't understand the real
world do do that many women.
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Really just sleep with married
men that they just keep talking
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about it over and over, I was so
confused by why Carrie Fisher
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was sleeping with this married
guy and continually expected him
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to leave his wife for her.
Did that cause any confusion for
444
00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:25,100
you Bob?
Now?
445
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:26,800
Because I think it was
exaggerated, you know what I
446
00:23:26,808 --> 00:23:28,900
mean?
And I do think, especially in a
447
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:32,400
place like New York, I have a
suspicion that when Nora Ephron
448
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,900
was writing this movie, that
character was based Based on
449
00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:37,600
somebody, whether it was herself
or somebody she knew, I have no
450
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,500
idea, but the writer knew
someone that was like, Carrie
451
00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:43,000
Fisher.
And then just kind of
452
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,900
exaggerated it for comedic
effect.
453
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,300
I think the fact that we keep
fast-forwarding five years, more
454
00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,800
into the future and every time
were fast-forwarding into the
455
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,000
future.
It's still carry Fisher.
456
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,100
Talking about married men,
whether they're the same one or
457
00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:59,300
a different one.
I think that's kind of the joke
458
00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:01,800
of her character until she
finally does settle down.
459
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,000
So I didn't I didn't bother me
so much as I saw it as a kind of
460
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,800
a running gag.
Yeah, that was the only part of
461
00:24:08,808 --> 00:24:13,800
the movie that felt kind of
exaggerated and not realistic,
462
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:15,500
but it wasn't like a terrible
thing.
463
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,000
It didn't ruin the movie for me.
I just thought it was curious.
464
00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:20,800
One of the things I love about
both of those characters though
465
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,700
is that Rob Reiner puts them in
the best place to do sort of
466
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:28,600
physical punchlines are like
cutaway punchlines.
467
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,800
They don't really get as many
funny lines but I'm thinking of
468
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:36,800
like with Carrie Uh, sure when
Harry and Sally Meet in the
469
00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:40,200
bookstore for the first time in
five years and Carrie Fisher's,
470
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,400
like, slowly sneaking away out
of frame.
471
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:45,300
And then you see, Sally say, oh,
Harry.
472
00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:47,100
This is my friend Marie.
And she's like, halfway down the
473
00:24:47,108 --> 00:24:49,000
stairs just like waving with her
arm up.
474
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,300
Well, that was Marie, right?
It's a great little cut away and
475
00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:56,800
it's the same thing with Bruno
Kirby when Harry and Jess are at
476
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,700
the Giants game and he's telling
him all about how, you know, his
477
00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:02,400
wife is cheating on him in,
they're going to get a divorce
478
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,600
and throughout that whole
monologue.
479
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,600
Keep standing up to do the wave
and it just like every few
480
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,600
lines.
It's a new punch line that might
481
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,900
have been my absolute favorite
scene in the movie because the
482
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,400
way they tell that story, they
do the wave like three times and
483
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,300
every single time it's kind of
like Harry delivers, you know,
484
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:24,900
the worst part of the story
while they're doing the wave and
485
00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:26,500
then while they're sitting
there, he's kind of like, but
486
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:28,300
it's not that bad.
There's this and that and this
487
00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:31,500
and that and then he delivers
more bad news that's even worse
488
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,500
than the first one while they're
doing the wave.
489
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,200
And it happens like three,
Times.
490
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,400
And it might be one of the most
rhythmic funniest jokes I've
491
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,400
ever seen in a movie.
It was so funny.
492
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:45,500
I love that you brought up the
Rhythm because Rob Reiner really
493
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:49,400
does direct this movie with such
a great Rhythm and every he
494
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,000
knows how every joke needs to
end and he cuts the movie and he
495
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,500
directs the movie to get you to
that joke and you know that
496
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:57,500
might have been your favorite
scene.
497
00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:00,400
My favorite scene in the whole
movie still involved Jess and
498
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,000
Marie and it's right after they
go on that horrible disaster of
499
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,900
a double date.
And they're walking home and a
500
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:10,000
girl split up in the guy split
up and just wants to get with
501
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,900
Marie, but Harry tells him, you
know, you need to wait a week
502
00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:16,500
and the same thing happens with
Sally and Marie, and then when
503
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:20,100
they come together, it's an,
it's a really fast punch line
504
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:22,300
because they're like, well, I
don't want to walk anymore and
505
00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:24,000
Marie's, like, I don't either,
let's get a cab.
506
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,300
And in the next five seconds,
they hail a cab there in the
507
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:28,700
cab, they're gone.
And then they cut back to Harry
508
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:32,200
and Sally standing alone on the
street, and it was just such a
509
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,800
perfectly constructed.
And well-directed punchline.
510
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,500
Like, it works to a tee.
Yeah.
511
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:42,300
That also was one of the
funniest scenes in the movie and
512
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,900
like you said, it's such a
brilliant comedic device because
513
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:50,000
the entire attention of this
movie is on Billy Crystal and
514
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,200
Meg, Ryan.
But even when the other
515
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,100
characters are in the scene, Rob
Reiner, finds funny ways to get
516
00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:01,800
them off camera to return the
attention to, you know, Harry
517
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,500
and Sally.
And it's just so brilliant.
518
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,100
Alliant.
It's so well done.
519
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,700
I can't say enough about Rob
Reiner is a director.
520
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:11,400
Well Brad I think this is a good
time for us to take a break.
521
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,200
What do you say?
We get into this redbreast list.
522
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Ow Bob I've had this poured for
a while now.
523
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:23,200
It smells absolutely phenomenal.
I can't wait to get into this.
524
00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:32,100
Alright, so today we are
drinking redbreast list.
525
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,000
Ow.
Now, if you remember from last
526
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,400
season, we had bought a red
breast sampler, that included,
527
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,200
their Baseline. 12-year the
Lista addition and the 15 years.
528
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,900
So, after today, we've still got
one red breast left to drink.
529
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:46,900
This is the one that was
included in the middle of the
530
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:48,800
package.
I don't know if that means that
531
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,400
redbreast considers it, the
middle of the three in terms of
532
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,200
quality, but I'm really excited
to get into this Brad.
533
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,100
You know, the 12-year was only
90 proof and I think our comment
534
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:00,200
on that in our Amadeus episode
It was that it tasted a little
535
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,300
thin.
This one is 92 proof.
536
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:05,800
So not as significant jump but
I'm expecting a little bit more
537
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,800
flavor from this one.
Yeah, I'm really impressed so
538
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,100
far with the knows already.
You know, I love that first
539
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,400
redbreast that we had.
And like you said about, I'm
540
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,600
really excited to get into this.
So what distinguishes, this one
541
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000
is that they use Sherry casks to
finish it.
542
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,700
And we've had a few different
kind of Sherry Cask finish
543
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,000
Whiskey's on the podcast.
The, the one that we liked the
544
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,200
most being the Glenmore Angeles
Santa, so I guess we can Of
545
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,100
expect a similar flavor profile
from this one.
546
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:37,200
But the difference is scotch to
Irish whiskey and I'm really,
547
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,500
really fascinated.
Because when we drank the first
548
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:43,100
redbreast, we had picked up some
notes on the nose and the taste
549
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:46,900
that reminded us of scotch.
It was a little more earthy than
550
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,600
the brighter Irish Whiskey's
that we'd had.
551
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,900
And so I'm wondering how similar
this is going to be to that
552
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:56,800
Glenmore Angeles Santa man.
As I as I knows this I'm really
553
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,700
picking up a lot of bright
notes.
554
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:02,000
I'm getting some sort of like,
an orange zest Enos.
555
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:04,300
There's almost this sweetness to
it.
556
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,800
Like a caramely toffee type of
smell.
557
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,100
I'm really enjoying this.
Yeah, the first thing that I can
558
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:13,200
smell on, this is toffee and
then it's butterscotch.
559
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,900
It's not quite caramel for me.
And I think that's what's
560
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,800
tipping me off at this might end
up being a little more scotchy
561
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,100
again.
Is that it's got those toffee
562
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:25,000
butterscotch notes but I'm also
picking up again.
563
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,500
Something under that, that's a
little more herbal.
564
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,900
I don't think it's mint.
It's herbal.
565
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:33,000
It's earthy.
It's just very different from
566
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,900
what you'd get in like a
Tullamore Dew.
567
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,700
Yeah.
I think I'm going to go ahead
568
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:39,300
and give this an eight and a
half on knows.
569
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:42,900
I really love what's going on in
this whiskey so far.
570
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:45,100
Yeah, I'm going to do the same
eight and a half for me, as
571
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,900
well, which means it's time for
us to give it a sip.
572
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Huh.
Wow am I crazy?
573
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,800
I feel like I have some sort of
a Nutty flavor.
574
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,300
Going on here.
Yep.
575
00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:00,400
Yep, at same thing.
Nuttiness, it's really sweet up
576
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,600
front like really sweet
immediately and then I'm getting
577
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,100
Brad.
I don't know how else to explain
578
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:10,100
this but like there's something
as it goes across my tongue.
579
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:14,400
That the sweetness goes away,
the nuttiness goes away and it's
580
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800
almost like a vegetable kind of
taste.
581
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,100
It's a very interesting.
Like it reminded me of A of like
582
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:23,200
broccoli or something.
It was really really unexpected.
583
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,100
And there's there's a lot of
things to like about the taste
584
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,800
in this, but I have this one
really unpleasant note that
585
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,300
sticking out to me as well.
That's interesting.
586
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:33,300
I'm not picking up on that
broccoli.
587
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:36,100
Note, because broccoli is one of
the worst things God has ever
588
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,300
created.
No, I'm honestly getting that
589
00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:43,100
nuttiness through the finish.
I think this is a very complex
590
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,800
and interesting, whiskey.
Like you're getting a lot of
591
00:30:45,808 --> 00:30:49,500
those sweet notes but it's
paired well, with kind of a
592
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:52,400
Venus, I am really impressed
with this.
593
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,300
Yeah, there's something for me
and I hear you on the sweetness,
594
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:57,800
the nuttiness goes through the
Finish.
595
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,400
There's definitely that sort of
wax Enos to it but there's just
596
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,500
some herbal taste in this that's
sticking out and it's actually
597
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:10,200
lingering into the finish for me
and it's taking away from my
598
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,000
enjoyment of it just a little
bit.
599
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,900
So I don't know if I could go
higher than like a six and a
600
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:17,700
half on the taste for this one.
Yeah I'm going to give it an 8
601
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,500
on the taste.
I am really impressed.
602
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,500
Rest with the flavor profile on
this.
603
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:23,200
But what do you think about the
Finish Bob?
604
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,400
Well, like I said the Finish,
those sweet notes, kind of
605
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,300
disappear and they were mostly
on the front of my palate.
606
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,900
So what you're left with is this
really lasting nuttiness?
607
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:34,400
And then for me, it's that
herbal taste.
608
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,900
And I always hate when the one
note that I like the least in
609
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,200
the taste of a whiskey, is the
one that lingers on my tongue
610
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,600
afterwards.
But I can't escape whatever this
611
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,400
flavor is and it's really taking
away from my overall enjoyment
612
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600
of it.
This tastes very Print from the
613
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,000
Le Santa, you don't have as many
Sherry whiny notes as I thought
614
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,200
you would on this.
It's actually a much darker
615
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,900
caramel paired with that
earthiness.
616
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,400
Yeah, I'm going to give it a
seven and a half on the Finish,
617
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:05,300
it's really good.
It has some almost like peppery
618
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:09,600
notes on the back end.
It sits with you for a while and
619
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,800
and it's pretty good.
It's not quite as good as the
620
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,800
first Parts, but I like it.
Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead
621
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,600
and give it a 6 on the Finish
which leads us to overall
622
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600
balance.
Now, this is where we talk about
623
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,600
knows taste and finish overall.
I do think this is fairly well
624
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,800
balanced, but something in the
taste and the finished stuck out
625
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,700
to me that I wasn't getting on
the nose.
626
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:32,800
And I think that really took my
score down on the finish.
627
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,900
So I'm just gonna give it a
seven on the overall balance.
628
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,500
I'm actually going to give it a
seven as well.
629
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,900
Bob, I I think that it is a
little bit unbalanced, it is a
630
00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:44,800
complex whiskey, but I got a lot
more on the nose than I did on
631
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,700
the, on the taste and the
finish.
632
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:49,500
All right?
And that brings us to value.
633
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,100
Now, this is where the original
redbreast, 12 really suffered in
634
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,500
our overall scores because it
was just too expensive.
635
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:59,800
It was in the fifty dollar
range, $60 range, I think, and
636
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,900
we have not tried a ton of Irish
whiskeys but that one didn't
637
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:07,600
seem to distinguish itself
enough to Merit that price tag.
638
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,800
And this one, Brad is actually
even more expensive in the state
639
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,200
of Ohio.
A bottle of red breast Le style
640
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,600
will cost you 6999.
So, 70 dollar price tag for this
641
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,400
bottle of whiskey, and I do not
I think that I can justify
642
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,700
spending that much on this
whiskey ever.
643
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,300
That is a hefty price tag for a
good whiskey.
644
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,900
Yeah, you know I would give this
a score as a good whiskey.
645
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,100
I like it a lot.
Sure.
646
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:36,300
But $70.
Wow.
647
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,700
I would buy other things before
I would buy this.
648
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:42,800
Well, let me ask you this Brad.
I mean, if you had the option of
649
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:48,000
buying Glenmore, Angeles Santa
at 50 or this at 70, what's your
650
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,900
choice come?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
651
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,500
Like when there are other Sherry
Cask finished whiskies probably
652
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:57,300
even Irish Whiskey's out there
that are going to be at a lower
653
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,700
price point and you know,
roughly equivalent in their
654
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,900
overall quality.
I just don't know how you could
655
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:06,500
ever justify spending $70 on
this.
656
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600
I'm actually going to give this
a 3 then on value.
657
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,300
Because I just really struggle
to think that I would ever pay
658
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:15,500
seventy dollars for a bottle of
this.
659
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:18,100
That's a lot of money for an
above-average whiskey.
660
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:19,800
Yeah, I agree.
I would actually Going to give
661
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,800
it a to but I think I will be
generous and give it a 3 just
662
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,800
because if Irish whiskey is your
favorite kind of whiskey, then I
663
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,400
think this is unique enough and
high-end enough that if all
664
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,800
you're looking for is Irish
whiskey.
665
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:35,500
Sure.
Go out and buy your 70 dollar
666
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,500
bottle of Irish whiskey.
I think for me you know Brad I'm
667
00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:41,500
not as big of a fan of Irish as
you are because I don't think
668
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:44,900
that we've seen enough of
variety in them that when you
669
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,800
start getting into the higher
price points, there's a lot of
670
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,400
difference from the lower price
points.
671
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:52,300
This one I do think there is
some variety to it.
672
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,000
I think it introduced something
new into Irish that we haven't
673
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,700
had yet and so sure I'll give it
a 3 on value.
674
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,300
But for me, I'm never going to
buy a bottle of this at retail
675
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:02,200
price.
Yeah.
676
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,600
So for my overall score, then I
was doing really well until the
677
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,900
value category which is I think
we could say the same thing
678
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:11,700
about the last redbreast we
drink.
679
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,800
I came out to a 34 out of 50.
Yeah and I agree.
680
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,700
I was just slightly less than
you bread.
681
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:19,800
I was at a 4:28.
Corey.
682
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,100
So this was going to be a fairly
high score for me.
683
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:28,100
I came out to a 31, which brings
our overall total to a 32 .5 or
684
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,800
a 65 out of 100, the price
point.
685
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,200
On this really makes the whole
thing suffer.
686
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,400
I mean if you have a really you
know like a wealthy benefactor
687
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,600
out there that is just pouring
you free shots of this.
688
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,900
It's a good whiskey.
I really enjoyed it but part of
689
00:35:41,908 --> 00:35:45,800
what we do on this podcast is
suggest to people what they
690
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,500
should buy with their
hard-earned money.
691
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,400
Then I just can't give that a A
of approval.
692
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:53,300
I 100% agree.
If you were asking me Brad, do
693
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:56,500
you approve of this whiskey?
Would you recommend drinking it?
694
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,400
I would say.
Yeah.
695
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,400
It's a really good whiskey, try
it out.
696
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,900
But if you're asking me, do you
recommend me to go to the liquor
697
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:05,100
store and buy it?
I would, I would not give this
698
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,600
my stamp of approval.
Well, there you have it that has
699
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,200
been read breathless towel.
I'm really sorry that we ended
700
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,300
on such a down note but, you
know, I'm not sorry because I
701
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:18,000
feel like we kind of took on the
responsibility with this podcast
702
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,300
Brad of Saying things like we
would suggest them to our
703
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:24,200
friends and I just don't think I
would ever suggest to my friend,
704
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,700
spend $70 on this bottle.
Do you hear that filmy whiskey
705
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:30,400
Nation?
You all are Bob's friend.
706
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:36,000
You guys are my one friend, how
lucky we are to have Bob as our
707
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,600
friend shot a guy shut up, brat.
All right, so let's get back
708
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,400
into talking about When Harry
Met Sally.
709
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,100
Alright, so that was redbreast
Le style.
710
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:52,300
We are back talking about When
Harry Met Sally, but before we
711
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:56,900
do that, we need to read some
hot takes Brad hot takes.
712
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,100
Now, hot takes is our new
segment where we find one star
713
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:03,400
reviews of these classic movies
and we decide whether or not
714
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,400
they have any validity to them.
Spoiler alert.
715
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:11,600
They do not really excited.
This really has been my favorite
716
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,400
part of our new season of
filming whiskey.
717
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
This is literally one of the
funniest things.
718
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,700
Things.
I think that we can do.
719
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,000
I love it too.
Because, like, you know, both of
720
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,100
us have given takes that the
other one is disagreed with, but
721
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:27,700
it's also a really refreshing to
read people who don't know how
722
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:29,400
to string together a cogent
thought.
723
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:32,500
And then realize like, yeah
might disagree with Brad but
724
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:36,400
he's a very intelligent man.
Yeah, I appreciate that bomb.
725
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,500
I usually think the same thing
about you.
726
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:44,100
All right, so our first hot take
today is from CC, the movie Man,
727
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:48,500
one at IMDb.
Not but can I just tell you that
728
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:52,000
more than the actual reviews?
I think my favorite part is
729
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,400
listening to you say, these
peoples usernames.
730
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,200
See see the movie, Man one, he
wrote this back in 2006.
731
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,000
So maybe his, his opinion has
changed.
732
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,700
But his one star review is
called Pure Rob Reiner.
733
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,200
Meg, Ryan garbage.
Oh man.
734
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,600
The quote cute movie of the
year.
735
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,600
Quote, a wonderful comic
Valentine.
736
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:19,300
These are just two of the
Reviews made by famous critics,
737
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:22,800
who mostly raved about this
film, which, and I know this is
738
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,700
unpopular to say was a
disgusting piece of crap.
739
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:29,500
Wow, the whole film was nothing
but sex talk.
740
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:32,800
Hey, I don't mind some of that.
It can be very funny but the
741
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,600
whole movie nothing but sex talk
after sex talk come on.
742
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:40,600
Well two people that made this a
very overrated film our director
743
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,400
Rob Reiner and actress.
Meg, Ryan Reiner is a sleaze
744
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,600
from way back and extremists who
Has no clue what morals are and
745
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,700
I don't ever believe.
I have seen a good movie, which
746
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:54,000
starred Meg, Ryan, she has a
beautiful face but that's it.
747
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:56,700
Her movies are consistent.
I'll give her that they all
748
00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:01,300
stink one star, that kind of
sounded like a shut up and
749
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:04,200
dribble.
Yeah, review.
750
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,100
Yeah, I love how they use a
pretty face, but stop acting.
751
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:08,500
I love that.
They just had to get a little
752
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:11,200
bit of objectification in there
before they gave it one star.
753
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,200
Yeah, yeah, that.
All right.
754
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,900
So you see the movie man, you
are Reviewing movies and you
755
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:19,100
should go home.
Alright.
756
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,300
Our second and final hot take
for today comes from Paul
757
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:25,400
Jeanette this man just put his
full name in the user name.
758
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,600
So Paul Jeanette his one-star
review.
759
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,400
A real disappointment as this
movie was quote, advertised as
760
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,300
being a very good and
entertaining motion picture.
761
00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:38,800
I was really looking forward to
it and looking forward to some
762
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,100
good laughs.
Unfortunately, the movie turned
763
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:45,200
out to be a real dud and
Unforgettable disappointment.
764
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:49,200
Rob Reiner is an exceptionally
good director and Billy Crystal
765
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,000
and Meg.
Ryan are exceptional actors.
766
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,100
But either the script or the
timing was terrible.
767
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,100
I laughed once at Rob, Reiner's
mother's line in the restaurant
768
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:00,900
and that was it.
I didn't even smile through the
769
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,600
rest of the movie.
Not to mention.
770
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,900
I never felt the urge to weep if
you won't make them laugh.
771
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:10,100
First, make them cry.
Sadly, it was a real waste of 96
772
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:14,500
Minutes.
One star, one star, literally
773
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:18,000
everything that we talked about
in the first After the episode,
774
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,600
he just like tore apart and was
like, no terrible timing.
775
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Nothing made me laugh.
No, physical comedy.
776
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,400
That was funny.
This is a terrible movie.
777
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,800
I also love that like one of his
criteria is.
778
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,400
It should have made me weep like
just because I didn't find it.
779
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,600
Funny means that it should have
just gone the other way.
780
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,400
And at least made me cry.
Yeah, I that's an obvious
781
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,100
critique.
I don't know why we didn't think
782
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:40,900
of it already Bob.
So that has been this week's
783
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,100
edition of hot takes.
All right.
784
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:46,800
So Brad, you know, we could go
in a ton of different Current
785
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,600
directions with this.
We could talk about our favorite
786
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,200
lines from the movie, but there
are just so many good lines in
787
00:40:51,207 --> 00:40:53,600
this movie that I think we would
just end up quoting the whole
788
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,600
thing.
I think maybe the best place to
789
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,300
go is to talk about the sort of
cultural impact that this had on
790
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:04,400
the genre of romantic comedies.
You even hinted at the beginning
791
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,200
of the episode, Brad, that you
could see the impact that this
792
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,000
movie had.
And it's fingerprints were all
793
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,400
over the place.
So, I'm wondering.
794
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,400
What about this movie reminded
you of other romantic comedies?
795
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,800
There is something about This
movie that you just see it.
796
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,700
Echoed in so many different
romantic comedies throughout the
797
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:28,100
years, whether it's through the
narration of the main character
798
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,800
talking about what's happening,
but there's something about
799
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,100
that, that as I was watching,
When Harry Met Sally, I was
800
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:35,800
like, oh yeah.
Like you can see these narrative
801
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,800
elements in later rom-coms, the
way that they use, like a
802
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,400
cutscene in the middle of it
with no dialogue where you just
803
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,900
see Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal,
Still struggling to purchase a
804
00:41:47,908 --> 00:41:51,900
Christmas tree together, you
know, or do other such fun kind
805
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:56,600
of friendly things together.
You see that in so many
806
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,400
different romantic comedies that
you have to imagine that When
807
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,900
Harry Met Sally, influence those
in deep and meaningful ways, I'm
808
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:10,600
sorry, Harry, I know it.
You can't show up here.
809
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,600
Tell me you love me.
I expect that to make
810
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,300
everything.
All right, it doesn't work this
811
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,200
way.
Well, how does it work?
812
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:22,300
How about this way?
I love that.
813
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:24,400
You get cold.
When it's 71 degrees out.
814
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:27,000
I love that it takes you an hour
and a half to order a sandwich.
815
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,500
I love to get a little crinkle
above your nose when you're
816
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,400
looking at me.
Like, I'm nuts, I love that.
817
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,000
After I spend the day with you,
I can still smell your perfume
818
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,200
on my clothes and I love that
you are the last person I want
819
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,200
to talk to you before I go to
sleep at night.
820
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:42,700
And it's not because I'm lonely
and it's not because it's New
821
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:44,900
Years Eve.
I came here tonight because when
822
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,200
you realize you want to spend
the rest of your life with
823
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,900
somebody, you want the rest of
your life to start, as soon as
824
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:59,100
possible.
You see that is just like you
825
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:02,600
Harry, you say things like that
and you make it impossible for
826
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,100
me to hate you.
Yeah, this is another one of
827
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:09,900
those movies like, alien last
week, where I can see the movies
828
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,400
that influenced it.
And then I can also see the
829
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,200
movies in influence because
there's a lot of Annie Hall in
830
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,800
this movie.
And, you know, I'm thinking of
831
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,100
the one scene where it's right
after they first had sex and
832
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,500
they're trying to decide how to
break the news to each other,
833
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,500
that they think it was a mistake
and all you hear is like their
834
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,200
internal monologue.
So you got narration in this
835
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,300
movie where you normally
wouldn't that's something that
836
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:33,600
Woody Allen did.
But then I also think about, you
837
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,100
know, we did 500 Days of Summer.
Summer last season and I was
838
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:39,500
really shocked at how many
things I thought 500 Days of
839
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,100
Summer.
Just kind of straight up stole
840
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,900
from this movie.
The, the old people talking to
841
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:47,400
the camera, there's a whole
montage in 500 Days of Summer of
842
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,500
all the major characters,
talking about how they met their
843
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:53,000
significant other, like,
directly into the camera.
844
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000
And it's done in the exact same
way, where they cut away from
845
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,100
the main narrative and put it in
as this little interlude.
846
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:02,400
And then, I was even thinking
about the scene, where they go
847
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,500
into Sharper Image and they're
sending into the Machine.
848
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,200
And it reminded me so much of
the scene where summer and Tom
849
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,900
go to Ikea and they're picking
out stuff at Ikea and I was
850
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:14,900
like, oh my gosh, they lifted
the scene directly out of When
851
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:18,100
Harry Met Sally, it was just so
interesting to me and I don't
852
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:21,500
know if it really takes away my
appreciation for 500 Days of
853
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:25,100
Summer, but you can definitely
see how this movie.
854
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:29,200
Just has such a huge impact on
the whole genre after it.
855
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:32,800
Well, and as we look at this
cultural impact, I think it's a
856
00:44:32,808 --> 00:44:36,600
good way to segue into Do you
know what kind of a score would
857
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,700
you give this movie Bob?
You know, you see that not only
858
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:43,000
is it a brilliant movie, you
know, and its own time, but I
859
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,800
think it's aged, well, it still
made me laugh in 2019, 30 years
860
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,300
later.
So, what kind of score would you
861
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:52,800
give this movie when you
consider the cultural impact its
862
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,300
had?
And just, what a great movie, it
863
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,000
was.
So this movie is currently
864
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:01,400
sitting at a 7.6 on IMDb and I
think it's a low, but I can also
865
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,500
understand it because this is
one of those movies where I
866
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:07,400
think Everyone can acknowledge
that everyone brings their a
867
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,700
game, the direction, the writing
the acting is all Top Notch.
868
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:14,900
And I think everybody except for
the two reviews we read today,
869
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:19,200
really does see this as a funny
movie, but it depends on how
870
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,800
much you like comedies.
I can understand someone giving
871
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000
this a seven.
I can also understand someone
872
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,400
giving this a 10.
And so when I came out of my
873
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,300
first viewing of this movie, I
was like, you know, I don't know
874
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:34,000
if I'd give it a perfect 10, but
I definitely give it a nine
875
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,600
point five.
I've and I watch it again last
876
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,300
night in preparation for this.
And even then I was like, maybe
877
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:42,300
I'd give it a nine.
So I understand how scores can
878
00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:45,800
be all over the place.
I think for me right now, I will
879
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,200
say this is a nearly perfect
movie.
880
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,100
I think it's going to grow on me
even more over the years, but
881
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:53,700
right now, I'm going to settle
at a 9 out of 10.
882
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:56,200
I'm going to give you the exact
same score Bob.
883
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,100
I think that 9 out of 10 is
perfect.
884
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,800
There are little things here and
there throughout the movie that
885
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,700
might not be perfectly done or
they might miss a beat here
886
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:06,400
there.
But Overall, this is, this is
887
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,600
pretty close to being a perfect
movie and it's just brilliant,
888
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and it's writing and its
direction and its pacing.
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I was very impressed with this
movie and I am going to give it
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a 9 out of 10.
Well, there you have it, we both
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give it 9.
So that makes our average really
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easy to figure out, but we want
to hear what you have to say.
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So please get on social media.
You can find us on Facebook on
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Twitter and on Instagram Brad
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Or you could give us a call at,
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leave a voicemail on our call in
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You remember the number 1216 800
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two, three next week, we're
going to be kicking off four
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straight weeks where we watch
films from what is widely
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regarded as the greatest year in
cinema history. 1939 and we're
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going to start off with mr.
Smith Goes to Washington for the
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film and whiskey podcast, I'm
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you next time.
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Robots, radio presents in 1989
director, Rob Reiner, and stars,
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Billy, Crystal, and Meg, Ryan
gave the world a Thun formula
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that would set the genre of
rom-com for years to come in
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2019.
We return to Ireland for the
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first time in season 2.
The movie is, When Harry Met
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Sally, the whiskey is redbreast
lost.
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Ow.
And we'll review them both.
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This is the film and whiskey
podcast.
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Welcome to the film and whiskey
podcast were each week.
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We review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.
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I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie and
this week, we are looking at the
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1989 romantic comedy classic
When Harry Met Sally.
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Now, Read every week.
I asked you, if you had seen
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this movie before, but I think I
tipped us off a little bit last
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week when I said, I have
actually never seen When Harry
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Met Sally.
So you might actually have a leg
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up on me this week.
Yeah, I honestly don't because I
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had never seen it before, but I
also love that you said that you
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might have tipped us off that
you hadn't seen it.
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Yeah.
And I just want to inform you,
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that that would mean that you
might have indicated that you
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hadn't seen it, but you flat out
I said last week, I haven't seen
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this movie.
That's more than tipping us off.
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I explicitly stated that I had
not seen this movie but I'm
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really excited.
So the way that we had actually
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set up the schedule for season
two, we had initially had a
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different movie slotted in.
For this week, we're going to be
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talking about Woody, Allen's
movie Annie Hall and for a
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couple reasons, number one,
being the whole Woody Allen
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controversy right now, and
number two being the fact that
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of Woody, Allen's movies.
I just don't care for Annie Hall
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that much.
I thought maybe this was a good
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time to try to sub something.
Sin.
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And it gave me a reason to watch
a different romantic comedy.
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One that's kind of in the same
vein as Annie Hall, but it
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checked the movie off my list.
And I'm really, really happy
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that we put When Harry Met Sally
into the list.
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Yeah, I 100% agree with you.
Bob, I had heard of this movie
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and obviously had never watched
it, but it did sound like one of
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those Classics of like, oh,
yeah, When Harry Met Sally.
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I should probably watch that
movie.
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And I was really blown away by
this movie is very impressive,
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but I'm, I am glad that we got
at it here on the list.
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And honestly, I feel like the
podcast as a whole has not
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brought filming whiskey Nation,
many reviews on rom-coms.
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So, I'm really excited to jump
into this genre.
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Yeah, I am too.
So, I guess Brad.
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Why don't we kick it off right
here at the beginning?
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With Brad explains.
And then, let's just take it
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wherever we want to go.
Because like you said, we
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haven't really talked a lot
about rom-coms.
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I think we can talk a lot about
the script of this movie, the
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direction, and the way that Rob
Reiner does sort of visual punch
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lines and the performances but
Before we get to that, Brad.
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Can you explain the movie When
Harry Met Sally?
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Yeah, Harry's a juror.
Excel is a perfectionist.
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They fall in love the end.
Wow, I'm pretty sure that was
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four seconds long.
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I'm impressed that they did,
they do fall in love.
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But what I love about this movie
is that, it happens over such a
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long period of time and the
whole like premise of the film
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is that they hate each other for
a long period of time until they
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don't.
And I think the course of the
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movie, it takes place Over what
like 10 12 years something like
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that?
I think it's about 12 years all
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together.
Yeah and I like that this movie
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goes for the Long play, you
know, it starts when they're in
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college but the fact that it's
about two people who go through
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the ins and outs of life, you
know, he goes through a divorce,
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she goes through, a really tough
long-term relationship,
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something about this movie, just
feels a little bit more grown up
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and mature than most romantic
comedies do.
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Yeah, I think that one of the
advantages that TV Is have over.
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Movies is the raw film time that
you get the consumer to sit in
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front of your product.
So, like, TV shows, you might
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sit in front of, you know,
watching the office for, you
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know, hundreds of hours over
re-watch over re-watch, whereas,
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like, I might watch When Harry
Met Sally, two more times in my
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life, which means I will have
spent about six hours watching
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this movie.
And so with that it can be
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really difficult for movies to
help you fall in love with
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characters.
Whereas TV shows you have
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hundreds of episodes to, you
know, dive into who a character
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is.
And so I what I think that When
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Harry Met Sally gives you is an
opportunity to see people change
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over a Year's worth of time and
it helps you fall in love with
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the characters because you see
that they've changed from who
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they used to be to who they are
now and it kind of gives you a
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grasp on who they are.
Yeah, and I think that's a
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really good point Brad.
Is that both of these lead
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performances, I think are just
phenomenal but you also See
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their personalities change over
the years with romantic
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comedies.
So often you get like a cliche
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or a Trope and especially with
the female characters, they play
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the exact same notes, all
through the movie.
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And I especially was blown away
by Meg Ryan and this film,
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because she does go from being
this sort of ambitious,
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idealistic uptight person in the
early going of the movie to a
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much more laid-back and in some
ways cynical and kind of jaded
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person after she has her big
break up, but you watch the
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progression.
Aggression of how all of their
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rough edges kind of gets sanded
off.
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And I think that's what really
draws me to this film.
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And what makes me think that it
is a sort of, more mature movie.
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Yeah.
And the other beautiful thing
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about them moving through time
for such, you know, long period
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is that you don't have to
suspend your disbelief to think.
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Oh, you know, these people
couldn't have fallen in love
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over a three-day period And I
think that's one of the biggest
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problems with rom-coms is that
most human beings when they
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Watch movies like that.
They understand you don't fall
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in love with somebody over a two
or three-day period, you know,
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that's not to say it's never
happened but it's hard when you
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watch rom-coms to think.
Oh yeah, this could represent
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real life.
Whereas, with When Harry Met
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Sally, it's believable.
I could see them falling in
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love, over a 10 to 12 year
period, of kind of being
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friends, kind of not liking each
other slowly finding you know,
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things that they both like and
enjoy and it's a realistic
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depiction.
Action of falling in love and I
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really like that.
So why don't we just kind of go
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through the movie as it
progresses?
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This movie starts off?
With opening titles, that really
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are reminiscent of a Woody Allen
movie and Brad, I don't know how
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many Woody Allen films you've
seen, but they kind of always
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start with this.
Black screen stylized script
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that go through the whole
credits.
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Before the movie starts, this
movie does kind of owe a debt to
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The Comedy of Woody Allen
because even though it Billy
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Crystal plays his character,
it's a little bit more of a
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regular guy than Woody.
Is but it's still sort of this
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neurotic sex-obsessed nebbish
Jewish guy.
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So like it's definitely in the
vein of a Woody Allen and I
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really liked that, they
acknowledged it that they leaned
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into it from the beginning,
Brad.
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Have you ever seen a Woody Allen
film?
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So I'm literally looking on my
phone right now.
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I'm scrolling through Woody
Allen movies.
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I have never seen a Woody Allen
film.
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Yeah, I mean, I do think we'll
get to some eventually on the
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podcast.
I don't know that this is like
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this is the moment for the
podcast to be addressing
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everything that's going on with
Woody.
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Allen right now.
I'm really glad we didn't do any
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Hall, but for now we'll just say
this movie is indebted to his
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style of comedy.
And so moving on from that, what
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I really liked about the way the
movie starts is like you get the
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title When Harry Met Sally.
And then the first shot of the
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movie is Billy Crystal making
out with someone that's not
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Sally.
Yeah, I really loved that
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because it sets the terms for
the relationship from the very
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start of the movie, the opening
scene of any movie is the
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directors first.
To tell the audience.
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You know what?
They need to know about this
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movie.
And so from the very GetGo, you
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know, that this is going to be
an adversarial relationship
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between Harry and Sally.
And I also really enjoy later in
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the movie when they run into
each other.
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Again, I think, for the first
time it's about five years later
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and they're in this airport and
she goes, I can't even remember
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that girlfriend's name and then
she, you know tries to make him
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feel bad for not remembering the
girlfriend's name.
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It's just this fun.
Fun playful, you know, kind of
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antagonistic relationship that
they have that they continue
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throughout the movie and they
set it up from the very opening
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scene, they really do.
And I just really briefly.
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I want to comment on this
because I want to get your
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thoughts Brad.
I think for the most part, they
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do a really good job of making
Billy Crystal look younger than
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he is throughout the movie.
But in that very opening shot,
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it's a close-up of him kissing
his girlfriend and he's supposed
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to be like 21 22.
And you can see all the great
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Airs in his hair and I think
that was the only shot of the
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movie where I was like, wow,
this is they did a pretty bad
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job here because for the rest of
the film, I didn't notice it so
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much.
Hey man, life at the University
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of Chicago was rough.
All right.
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He really studied hard to be a
lawyer there?
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Whatever, he ended up doing.
I have just as much of a dark
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side as the next person.
Oh, really.
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When I buy a new book, I always
read the last page first that
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way in case I die before I
finish.
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I Know How It Ends that my
friend, is it Darkseid, that
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doesn't mean you're deep or
anything.
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I mean, yes.
Basically, I'm a happy person so
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much, and I don't see that.
There's anything wrong with
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that.
Of course, not you too busy
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being happy.
You ever think about death?
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Yes, sure.
You do a fleeting thought that
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was in and out of the transom of
your mind.
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I spent hours, I spend days and
you think this makes you a
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better person comes down.
I'm going to be prepared and
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you're not, that's all I'm
saying.
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Meantime, you're going to ruin
your whole life waiting for it.
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I want to get your thoughts on
this bread and I think it's time
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for us to talk a little bit
about the lead performances and
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we've touched on Meg Ryan.
What do you think of the idea of
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Billy Crystal sex symbol in this
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I really struggled with that
because if I'm completely
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honest, I don't think Billy
Crystal is an incredibly
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attractive man and so to see him
as a sex symbol, AS like he's
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just sleeping with women all
around, all over the place.
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I just kind of I kind of went
huh.
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That's interesting.
What's really funny is that I
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think I had the opposite
reaction because I'm really used
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to Billy Crystal Oscar host or
Billy Crystal Mike Wazowski, you
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know.
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And I've never seen him lean
more into kind of the more
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Charming side.
The more sensitive side that he
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does in this movie.
I think the way he looks at Meg
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Ryan the way that he has this
really wry smile.
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It's not so much the cynical
Billy Crystal.
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Now that I'm used to cracking,
you know, like making wise
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cracking jokes at the Oscars.
It was a much more playful and I
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actually, I thought it really
worked and I like halfway
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through the movie.
I was like yeah I could see
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this.
I could see how women would find
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this man attractive.
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I mean you are kind of used to
Billy Crystal with that, you
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know.
And you've never had it so good
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type of humor just, you know,
coming out all the time.
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Sure, you do get a different
side of him in this movie, that
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I really do enjoy.
He, he kind of commands the
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camera.
Every he's on screen.
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He has this magnetism that I
guess.
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Yeah, maybe you're right.
Baba.
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I can understand why he would be
so attractive to women, you
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know, in the 1980s and yet
that's not really like
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something.
That was a trademark of the
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Billy Crystal Brand.
I think this movie really went
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out of its way to make him be
more appealing.
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And that way, you know I don't
think if you asked like the
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typical woman on the street in
the 1980s tell me what you think
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of Billy Crystal, that this
would be something that they
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would think of because You know,
just a couple of years before
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this movie, he's in The Princess
Bride and he's got this horribly
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disfigured old man makeup on.
He's the guy that slips in and
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out of character and so I think
to, to hang a romantic comedy on
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the believability of Billy
Crystal as your romantic lead
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was kind of a gutsy move but I
really think it paid off well
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and one of the reasons he did so
well is because I think that the
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script was written beautifully
for him at the very start of the
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movie.
I don't know if I've ever seen a
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movie.
It's so well where they portray
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that idealistic young college
student, who has it all figured
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out, you know, he's very cocky
and he's self-assured and he
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knows all the answers to life
and death and and he just comes
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across as this self-assured
young man, who knows everything
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he needs from the world.
But five years later, and five
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years after that, you begin to
understand that.
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He's grown, he's changed.
And the script was written
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extremely well to show.
Oh, those changes and to give
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him depth as a character, I
completely agree.
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And the script was written by
Nora Ephron, who would go on to
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be, you know, the preeminent
writer and some time director of
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romantic comedies all through
the 1990s and 2000s.
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And I think this might be her
best script because it was so
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rooted in real life.
You know, she had had this
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conversation about can men and
women really truly be friends
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without there being that sexual
tension.
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Underlying it and the movie came
out of that.
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But what I love about this, Does
that it plays so strongly into
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the strengths of its two leads
Meg, Ryan in that opening scene,
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where she's driving him in the
car, she is just nailing that
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sort of uptight and yet still
adorable character and then
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you've got him looking like a
schlub sitting next to her in
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the car spitting.
His grape into the window
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because he thinks it's rolled
down and just generally being a
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cocky slob and to have those two
things right next to each other.
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I think it Come across a little
too, like, on the nose, but the
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way they played in this movie,
it's just perfect.
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And I had a stupid grin on my
face for like the whole film,
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just because of how clever, how
witty and how perfect the script
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was honestly that those early
shots of Sally, kind of reminded
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me of like Ann-Margret from Bye.
Bye Birdie.
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Just kind of that young innocent
blond that, you know, knows what
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she wants in life.
But for some reason that Real
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just kind of reminded me of
that.
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Yeah, that's really interesting
because I actually wrote down a
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comparison to and I was really
Blown Away by how much Meg, Ryan
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reminded me of Ginger Rogers in
this movie.
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And we haven't watched a Fred
and ginger movie on this
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podcast.
We might someday.
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But particularly for me, it's
the way she used her eyes.
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The way she really stood up to
Billy Crystal.
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It reminded me so much of the
way that Ginger Rogers would
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interact with Fred Astaire's
characters in their movies.
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And I think that Meg, Ryan kind
of has this reputation of only
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being a romantic, Antic comedy
actress.
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As if like, that's something to
be looked down upon, but
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throughout this movie, I just
thought that this performance
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was just fantastic, because she
ages herself from really young
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and idealistic, and ambitious to
older, and jaded and hurt.
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But she hits all of those notes.
So, beautifully, she delivers an
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amazing performance in this
movie.
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And I think really, the reason
this movie does so well, is
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because their performances are
so grounded.
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I A problem that a lot of
rom-coms face is that the
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characters are over-the-top and
kind of observed, you know what
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I mean?
And they're just they're just
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kind of ridiculous people that
wouldn't exist in the real world
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where as Harry and Sally are
real people.
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They have real friends who are
normal and they, you know, they
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lived normal lives.
They might not live a normal
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life that somebody in the
midwest would understand of a,
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you know, a New Yorker, but it
was believable and they both
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deliver those performances
perfectly.
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I I truly was blown away by
Billy Crystal and Meg, Ryan in
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this movie.
And I think if I had to pick one
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that I was even more impressed
by, for me, it would be Meg Ryan
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just because she's not, she
wasn't a professional comedian,
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the way Billy Crystal is.
And so when Nora Ephron gives
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Sally, so many punchlines to
finish scenes, you really have
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to know your, a, your comedic
timing.
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And B, you have to know how to
deliver a punch line and Meg.
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Ryan always delivers them really
straight and I think that's what
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makes them really fun.
But, like, in particular in that
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early scene, where they go to
the diner together and they're
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talking about how Meg Ryan broke
up with her boyfriend and they
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talk about the days of the week
underwear.
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Yeah.
And how her boyfriend didn't
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believe that they didn't make
Sunday and Billy Crystal asks
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her, why don't they make Sunday
in the punch line is because of
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God and it's the way that her
face is resting when she
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delivers that line, I laughed
out loud and and I was just so
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shocked at how Good of a
comedienne Meg, Ryan was in this
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movie.
She held, she holds her own
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against one of Cinema's, best
comedians of all time.
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And the other part about that
scene, that's so brilliant.
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Is that they just oppose it with
a scene later in the movie where
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they're at lunch again and
they're talking about sex again.
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And instead of talking about how
you know, we don't we don't talk
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about sex on Sunday because of
God Meg, Ryan goes into this, I
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don't know 30 seconds.
Fake orgasm.
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That might have been the
funniest part of the movie, but
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I love how they use that to show
how her character has developed,
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from being a young naive college
student to, you know, a woman in
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her early 30s.
Yeah.
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And that's the most famous scene
in the movie and the crazy thing
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is, I've probably seen that
scene 50 times just on TV in,
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you know, clips of funniest
movie scenes things like that
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and in the context of the movie,
even knowing it was coming and
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And knowing the punchline of
that scene and it being
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ingrained in pop culture like
it's still works and it's still
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hilarious.
And I think that's the mark of a
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perfectly written joke.
Yeah, the funny thing about that
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was, I've actually seen the clip
of the old woman saying, I'll
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have what she's having, but I
had never actually seen the clip
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of Meg.
Ryan faking an orgasm in the
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middle of a New York Cafe, so
it's still hit me and it's just
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so awkward and it's absolutely
perfect at that beat of the It
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fits beautifully.
So in one of the most famous
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castings ever in Hollywood, Rob
Reiner actually cast his mom to
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deliver that line that Cafe
scene.
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I did not know that.
That's, yeah, that's a fun piece
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of trivia from When Harry Met
Sally.
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So, Brad before, before we move
into the next part of our show,
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I want to ask you about at the
very beginning of the movie,
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even before we meet Harry and
Sally.
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And then all throughout the
movie, they these little sort of
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interstitials are these little
skits?
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Almost of old people who have
been married for a long time,
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kind of talking about how they
got married, and some of them
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are funnier than others, and it
kind of makes you wonder what
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the role of those are in the
movie.
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And I think, for a long time, I
was trying to, like, correlate
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them to where Harry and Sally
were in their relationship.
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I don't know if they necessarily
do correlate, and I'm kind of
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wondering.
What were your thoughts on those
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little interstitials?
Did you think they work?
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Did you think they were
necessarily Siri, did they fit
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in the movie?
I thought that those little cute
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interludes with elderly couples
telling, you know, the early
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parts of their love story were
absolutely amazing.
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They were adorable.
They were fun and I thought that
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they really paste the movie.
Well, because you would kind of
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Hit the low beat where a scene
would finish.
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And then you'd have that small
scene with an elderly couple
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just kind of giggling about
their their love story.
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And then it would slowly move
into a new era.
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Are in the relationship between
Harry and Sally and I thought
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that they worked brilliantly as
a pacing piece to help Pace the
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movie.
Now, I will say, for a little
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while, I was like, oh, I wonder
if these are people, you know,
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from the movie that are in
relationships and we're seeing
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them at the end of the
relationship, and we're going to
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see Harry and Sally at the end
of the movie really old.
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So there were, there was a
little confusion with them but
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after the third or fourth one, I
think he begin to realize that
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these are just R.
Just other examples of people
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with crazy stories on how they
fell in love, and I think that
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it worked perfectly to
illustrate the entire message of
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this movie.
What I'm saying is and this is
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not a come on, in any way shape
or form is that men and women
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can't be friends because the sex
part always gets in the way.
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That's not true.
I have a number of men friends
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and there is no sex involved.
Yes I do.
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Yes I do.
You're saying I'm having sex
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with these men without my
knowledge.
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No.
What I'm saying is they all want
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to have sex with you.
They do not they do not because
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no man can be friends with a
woman that he finds attractive.
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He always wants to have sex with
her.
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So you're saying that a man can
be friends with a woman.
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He finds unattractive.
Know you pretty much want to
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nail him too.
What if they don't want to have
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sex with, you doesn't matter
because the sex thing is already
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out there so the Friendship is
ultimately doomed and that is
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the end of the story.
Well, I guess we're not gonna be
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friends, then guess not.
I think last thing we should
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say, before we move into our
whiskey segment, is that this
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movie really only has four
characters in it.
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You know, there's some side
periphery characters, but it's
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Billy Crystal and Meg, Ryan as
Harry and Sally, and then Carrie
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Fisher as Sally's friend Marie
and Bruno, Kirby, as Harry's,
416
00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:58,000
friend, Jess.
And the funniest thing in the
417
00:21:58,008 --> 00:22:00,300
movie really from a narrative
standpoint, is the fact that
418
00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:03,100
those two end up getting
together, but I loved the
419
00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:05,800
casting of the best.
Friends, I don't think no
420
00:22:05,808 --> 00:22:08,700
romantic comedy is complete
without a good best friend, but
421
00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:12,200
I didn't feel like these two
best friends were like the
422
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,400
cliches.
And maybe they were the ones
423
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,000
that inspired the cliche is over
the next, you know, 30 years.
424
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,000
But these felt like real people
they I mean they had their
425
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,900
Ridiculousness to them.
But what was funny about the way
426
00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:26,100
they interacted with each other
was Harry and Sally.
427
00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:29,600
Put up with the Ridiculousness
of their friends and it really
428
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,900
kind of hits home and it's
relatable.
429
00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:36,600
What did you think of the two?
Says from Bruno Kirby and Carrie
430
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,700
Fisher.
I especially enjoyed Bruno
431
00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:41,200
Kirby.
I thought that he was perfect.
432
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,300
As his best friend, he kind of
pointed out the Ridiculousness
433
00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:46,900
of Harry.
Not wanting to be with Sally for
434
00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:50,500
such a long time.
He's funny, he's interesting.
435
00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:52,500
He delivers one-liners really
well.
436
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,900
I also enjoyed Carrie Fisher.
I was just super confused and
437
00:22:56,900 --> 00:23:00,200
this isn't really her fault.
It's the script, the only point
438
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,900
of the script that I had maybe
some frustration with and Maybe
439
00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:09,200
I just don't understand the real
world do do that many women.
440
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,600
Really just sleep with married
men that they just keep talking
441
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,500
about it over and over, I was so
confused by why Carrie Fisher
442
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:19,800
was sleeping with this married
guy and continually expected him
443
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,900
to leave his wife for her.
Did that cause any confusion for
444
00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:25,100
you Bob?
Now?
445
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:26,800
Because I think it was
exaggerated, you know what I
446
00:23:26,808 --> 00:23:28,900
mean?
And I do think, especially in a
447
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:32,400
place like New York, I have a
suspicion that when Nora Ephron
448
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,900
was writing this movie, that
character was based Based on
449
00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:37,600
somebody, whether it was herself
or somebody she knew, I have no
450
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,500
idea, but the writer knew
someone that was like, Carrie
451
00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:43,000
Fisher.
And then just kind of
452
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,900
exaggerated it for comedic
effect.
453
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,300
I think the fact that we keep
fast-forwarding five years, more
454
00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,800
into the future and every time
were fast-forwarding into the
455
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,000
future.
It's still carry Fisher.
456
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,100
Talking about married men,
whether they're the same one or
457
00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:59,300
a different one.
I think that's kind of the joke
458
00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:01,800
of her character until she
finally does settle down.
459
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,000
So I didn't I didn't bother me
so much as I saw it as a kind of
460
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,800
a running gag.
Yeah, that was the only part of
461
00:24:08,808 --> 00:24:13,800
the movie that felt kind of
exaggerated and not realistic,
462
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:15,500
but it wasn't like a terrible
thing.
463
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,000
It didn't ruin the movie for me.
I just thought it was curious.
464
00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:20,800
One of the things I love about
both of those characters though
465
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,700
is that Rob Reiner puts them in
the best place to do sort of
466
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:28,600
physical punchlines are like
cutaway punchlines.
467
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,800
They don't really get as many
funny lines but I'm thinking of
468
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:36,800
like with Carrie Uh, sure when
Harry and Sally Meet in the
469
00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:40,200
bookstore for the first time in
five years and Carrie Fisher's,
470
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,400
like, slowly sneaking away out
of frame.
471
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:45,300
And then you see, Sally say, oh,
Harry.
472
00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:47,100
This is my friend Marie.
And she's like, halfway down the
473
00:24:47,108 --> 00:24:49,000
stairs just like waving with her
arm up.
474
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,300
Well, that was Marie, right?
It's a great little cut away and
475
00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:56,800
it's the same thing with Bruno
Kirby when Harry and Jess are at
476
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,700
the Giants game and he's telling
him all about how, you know, his
477
00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:02,400
wife is cheating on him in,
they're going to get a divorce
478
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,600
and throughout that whole
monologue.
479
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,600
Keep standing up to do the wave
and it just like every few
480
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,600
lines.
It's a new punch line that might
481
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,900
have been my absolute favorite
scene in the movie because the
482
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,400
way they tell that story, they
do the wave like three times and
483
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,300
every single time it's kind of
like Harry delivers, you know,
484
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:24,900
the worst part of the story
while they're doing the wave and
485
00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:26,500
then while they're sitting
there, he's kind of like, but
486
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:28,300
it's not that bad.
There's this and that and this
487
00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:31,500
and that and then he delivers
more bad news that's even worse
488
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,500
than the first one while they're
doing the wave.
489
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,200
And it happens like three,
Times.
490
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,400
And it might be one of the most
rhythmic funniest jokes I've
491
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,400
ever seen in a movie.
It was so funny.
492
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:45,500
I love that you brought up the
Rhythm because Rob Reiner really
493
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:49,400
does direct this movie with such
a great Rhythm and every he
494
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,000
knows how every joke needs to
end and he cuts the movie and he
495
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,500
directs the movie to get you to
that joke and you know that
496
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:57,500
might have been your favorite
scene.
497
00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:00,400
My favorite scene in the whole
movie still involved Jess and
498
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,000
Marie and it's right after they
go on that horrible disaster of
499
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,900
a double date.
And they're walking home and a
500
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:10,000
girl split up in the guy split
up and just wants to get with
501
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,900
Marie, but Harry tells him, you
know, you need to wait a week
502
00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:16,500
and the same thing happens with
Sally and Marie, and then when
503
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:20,100
they come together, it's an,
it's a really fast punch line
504
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:22,300
because they're like, well, I
don't want to walk anymore and
505
00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:24,000
Marie's, like, I don't either,
let's get a cab.
506
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,300
And in the next five seconds,
they hail a cab there in the
507
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:28,700
cab, they're gone.
And then they cut back to Harry
508
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:32,200
and Sally standing alone on the
street, and it was just such a
509
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,800
perfectly constructed.
And well-directed punchline.
510
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,500
Like, it works to a tee.
Yeah.
511
00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:42,300
That also was one of the
funniest scenes in the movie and
512
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,900
like you said, it's such a
brilliant comedic device because
513
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:50,000
the entire attention of this
movie is on Billy Crystal and
514
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,200
Meg, Ryan.
But even when the other
515
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,100
characters are in the scene, Rob
Reiner, finds funny ways to get
516
00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:01,800
them off camera to return the
attention to, you know, Harry
517
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,500
and Sally.
And it's just so brilliant.
518
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,100
Alliant.
It's so well done.
519
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,700
I can't say enough about Rob
Reiner is a director.
520
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:11,400
Well Brad I think this is a good
time for us to take a break.
521
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,200
What do you say?
We get into this redbreast list.
522
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Ow Bob I've had this poured for
a while now.
523
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:23,200
It smells absolutely phenomenal.
I can't wait to get into this.
524
00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:32,100
Alright, so today we are
drinking redbreast list.
525
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,000
Ow.
Now, if you remember from last
526
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,400
season, we had bought a red
breast sampler, that included,
527
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,200
their Baseline. 12-year the
Lista addition and the 15 years.
528
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,900
So, after today, we've still got
one red breast left to drink.
529
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:46,900
This is the one that was
included in the middle of the
530
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:48,800
package.
I don't know if that means that
531
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,400
redbreast considers it, the
middle of the three in terms of
532
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,200
quality, but I'm really excited
to get into this Brad.
533
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,100
You know, the 12-year was only
90 proof and I think our comment
534
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:00,200
on that in our Amadeus episode
It was that it tasted a little
535
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,300
thin.
This one is 92 proof.
536
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:05,800
So not as significant jump but
I'm expecting a little bit more
537
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,800
flavor from this one.
Yeah, I'm really impressed so
538
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,100
far with the knows already.
You know, I love that first
539
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,400
redbreast that we had.
And like you said about, I'm
540
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,600
really excited to get into this.
So what distinguishes, this one
541
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000
is that they use Sherry casks to
finish it.
542
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,700
And we've had a few different
kind of Sherry Cask finish
543
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,000
Whiskey's on the podcast.
The, the one that we liked the
544
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,200
most being the Glenmore Angeles
Santa, so I guess we can Of
545
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,100
expect a similar flavor profile
from this one.
546
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:37,200
But the difference is scotch to
Irish whiskey and I'm really,
547
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,500
really fascinated.
Because when we drank the first
548
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:43,100
redbreast, we had picked up some
notes on the nose and the taste
549
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:46,900
that reminded us of scotch.
It was a little more earthy than
550
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,600
the brighter Irish Whiskey's
that we'd had.
551
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,900
And so I'm wondering how similar
this is going to be to that
552
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:56,800
Glenmore Angeles Santa man.
As I as I knows this I'm really
553
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,700
picking up a lot of bright
notes.
554
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:02,000
I'm getting some sort of like,
an orange zest Enos.
555
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:04,300
There's almost this sweetness to
it.
556
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,800
Like a caramely toffee type of
smell.
557
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,100
I'm really enjoying this.
Yeah, the first thing that I can
558
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:13,200
smell on, this is toffee and
then it's butterscotch.
559
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,900
It's not quite caramel for me.
And I think that's what's
560
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,800
tipping me off at this might end
up being a little more scotchy
561
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,100
again.
Is that it's got those toffee
562
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:25,000
butterscotch notes but I'm also
picking up again.
563
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,500
Something under that, that's a
little more herbal.
564
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,900
I don't think it's mint.
It's herbal.
565
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:33,000
It's earthy.
It's just very different from
566
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,900
what you'd get in like a
Tullamore Dew.
567
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,700
Yeah.
I think I'm going to go ahead
568
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:39,300
and give this an eight and a
half on knows.
569
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:42,900
I really love what's going on in
this whiskey so far.
570
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:45,100
Yeah, I'm going to do the same
eight and a half for me, as
571
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,900
well, which means it's time for
us to give it a sip.
572
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Huh.
Wow am I crazy?
573
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,800
I feel like I have some sort of
a Nutty flavor.
574
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,300
Going on here.
Yep.
575
00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:00,400
Yep, at same thing.
Nuttiness, it's really sweet up
576
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,600
front like really sweet
immediately and then I'm getting
577
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,100
Brad.
I don't know how else to explain
578
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:10,100
this but like there's something
as it goes across my tongue.
579
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:14,400
That the sweetness goes away,
the nuttiness goes away and it's
580
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800
almost like a vegetable kind of
taste.
581
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,100
It's a very interesting.
Like it reminded me of A of like
582
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:23,200
broccoli or something.
It was really really unexpected.
583
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,100
And there's there's a lot of
things to like about the taste
584
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,800
in this, but I have this one
really unpleasant note that
585
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,300
sticking out to me as well.
That's interesting.
586
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:33,300
I'm not picking up on that
broccoli.
587
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:36,100
Note, because broccoli is one of
the worst things God has ever
588
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,300
created.
No, I'm honestly getting that
589
00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:43,100
nuttiness through the finish.
I think this is a very complex
590
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,800
and interesting, whiskey.
Like you're getting a lot of
591
00:30:45,808 --> 00:30:49,500
those sweet notes but it's
paired well, with kind of a
592
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:52,400
Venus, I am really impressed
with this.
593
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,300
Yeah, there's something for me
and I hear you on the sweetness,
594
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:57,800
the nuttiness goes through the
Finish.
595
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,400
There's definitely that sort of
wax Enos to it but there's just
596
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,500
some herbal taste in this that's
sticking out and it's actually
597
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:10,200
lingering into the finish for me
and it's taking away from my
598
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,000
enjoyment of it just a little
bit.
599
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,900
So I don't know if I could go
higher than like a six and a
600
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:17,700
half on the taste for this one.
Yeah I'm going to give it an 8
601
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,500
on the taste.
I am really impressed.
602
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,500
Rest with the flavor profile on
this.
603
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:23,200
But what do you think about the
Finish Bob?
604
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,400
Well, like I said the Finish,
those sweet notes, kind of
605
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,300
disappear and they were mostly
on the front of my palate.
606
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,900
So what you're left with is this
really lasting nuttiness?
607
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:34,400
And then for me, it's that
herbal taste.
608
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,900
And I always hate when the one
note that I like the least in
609
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,200
the taste of a whiskey, is the
one that lingers on my tongue
610
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,600
afterwards.
But I can't escape whatever this
611
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,400
flavor is and it's really taking
away from my overall enjoyment
612
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600
of it.
This tastes very Print from the
613
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,000
Le Santa, you don't have as many
Sherry whiny notes as I thought
614
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,200
you would on this.
It's actually a much darker
615
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,900
caramel paired with that
earthiness.
616
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,400
Yeah, I'm going to give it a
seven and a half on the Finish,
617
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:05,300
it's really good.
It has some almost like peppery
618
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:09,600
notes on the back end.
It sits with you for a while and
619
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,800
and it's pretty good.
It's not quite as good as the
620
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,800
first Parts, but I like it.
Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead
621
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,600
and give it a 6 on the Finish
which leads us to overall
622
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600
balance.
Now, this is where we talk about
623
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,600
knows taste and finish overall.
I do think this is fairly well
624
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,800
balanced, but something in the
taste and the finished stuck out
625
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,700
to me that I wasn't getting on
the nose.
626
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:32,800
And I think that really took my
score down on the finish.
627
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,900
So I'm just gonna give it a
seven on the overall balance.
628
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,500
I'm actually going to give it a
seven as well.
629
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,900
Bob, I I think that it is a
little bit unbalanced, it is a
630
00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:44,800
complex whiskey, but I got a lot
more on the nose than I did on
631
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,700
the, on the taste and the
finish.
632
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:49,500
All right?
And that brings us to value.
633
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,100
Now, this is where the original
redbreast, 12 really suffered in
634
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,500
our overall scores because it
was just too expensive.
635
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:59,800
It was in the fifty dollar
range, $60 range, I think, and
636
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,900
we have not tried a ton of Irish
whiskeys but that one didn't
637
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:07,600
seem to distinguish itself
enough to Merit that price tag.
638
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,800
And this one, Brad is actually
even more expensive in the state
639
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,200
of Ohio.
A bottle of red breast Le style
640
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,600
will cost you 6999.
So, 70 dollar price tag for this
641
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,400
bottle of whiskey, and I do not
I think that I can justify
642
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,700
spending that much on this
whiskey ever.
643
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,300
That is a hefty price tag for a
good whiskey.
644
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,900
Yeah, you know I would give this
a score as a good whiskey.
645
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,100
I like it a lot.
Sure.
646
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:36,300
But $70.
Wow.
647
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,700
I would buy other things before
I would buy this.
648
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:42,800
Well, let me ask you this Brad.
I mean, if you had the option of
649
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:48,000
buying Glenmore, Angeles Santa
at 50 or this at 70, what's your
650
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,900
choice come?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
651
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,500
Like when there are other Sherry
Cask finished whiskies probably
652
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:57,300
even Irish Whiskey's out there
that are going to be at a lower
653
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,700
price point and you know,
roughly equivalent in their
654
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,900
overall quality.
I just don't know how you could
655
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:06,500
ever justify spending $70 on
this.
656
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600
I'm actually going to give this
a 3 then on value.
657
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,300
Because I just really struggle
to think that I would ever pay
658
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:15,500
seventy dollars for a bottle of
this.
659
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:18,100
That's a lot of money for an
above-average whiskey.
660
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:19,800
Yeah, I agree.
I would actually Going to give
661
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,800
it a to but I think I will be
generous and give it a 3 just
662
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,800
because if Irish whiskey is your
favorite kind of whiskey, then I
663
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,400
think this is unique enough and
high-end enough that if all
664
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,800
you're looking for is Irish
whiskey.
665
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:35,500
Sure.
Go out and buy your 70 dollar
666
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,500
bottle of Irish whiskey.
I think for me you know Brad I'm
667
00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:41,500
not as big of a fan of Irish as
you are because I don't think
668
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:44,900
that we've seen enough of
variety in them that when you
669
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,800
start getting into the higher
price points, there's a lot of
670
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,400
difference from the lower price
points.
671
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:52,300
This one I do think there is
some variety to it.
672
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,000
I think it introduced something
new into Irish that we haven't
673
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,700
had yet and so sure I'll give it
a 3 on value.
674
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,300
But for me, I'm never going to
buy a bottle of this at retail
675
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:02,200
price.
Yeah.
676
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,600
So for my overall score, then I
was doing really well until the
677
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,900
value category which is I think
we could say the same thing
678
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:11,700
about the last redbreast we
drink.
679
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,800
I came out to a 34 out of 50.
Yeah and I agree.
680
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,700
I was just slightly less than
you bread.
681
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:19,800
I was at a 4:28.
Corey.
682
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,100
So this was going to be a fairly
high score for me.
683
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:28,100
I came out to a 31, which brings
our overall total to a 32 .5 or
684
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,800
a 65 out of 100, the price
point.
685
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,200
On this really makes the whole
thing suffer.
686
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,400
I mean if you have a really you
know like a wealthy benefactor
687
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,600
out there that is just pouring
you free shots of this.
688
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,900
It's a good whiskey.
I really enjoyed it but part of
689
00:35:41,908 --> 00:35:45,800
what we do on this podcast is
suggest to people what they
690
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,500
should buy with their
hard-earned money.
691
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,400
Then I just can't give that a A
of approval.
692
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:53,300
I 100% agree.
If you were asking me Brad, do
693
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:56,500
you approve of this whiskey?
Would you recommend drinking it?
694
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,400
I would say.
Yeah.
695
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,400
It's a really good whiskey, try
it out.
696
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,900
But if you're asking me, do you
recommend me to go to the liquor
697
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:05,100
store and buy it?
I would, I would not give this
698
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,600
my stamp of approval.
Well, there you have it that has
699
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,200
been read breathless towel.
I'm really sorry that we ended
700
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,300
on such a down note but, you
know, I'm not sorry because I
701
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:18,000
feel like we kind of took on the
responsibility with this podcast
702
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,300
Brad of Saying things like we
would suggest them to our
703
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:24,200
friends and I just don't think I
would ever suggest to my friend,
704
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,700
spend $70 on this bottle.
Do you hear that filmy whiskey
705
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:30,400
Nation?
You all are Bob's friend.
706
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:36,000
You guys are my one friend, how
lucky we are to have Bob as our
707
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,600
friend shot a guy shut up, brat.
All right, so let's get back
708
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,400
into talking about When Harry
Met Sally.
709
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,100
Alright, so that was redbreast
Le style.
710
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:52,300
We are back talking about When
Harry Met Sally, but before we
711
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:56,900
do that, we need to read some
hot takes Brad hot takes.
712
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,100
Now, hot takes is our new
segment where we find one star
713
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:03,400
reviews of these classic movies
and we decide whether or not
714
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,400
they have any validity to them.
Spoiler alert.
715
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:11,600
They do not really excited.
This really has been my favorite
716
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,400
part of our new season of
filming whiskey.
717
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
This is literally one of the
funniest things.
718
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,700
Things.
I think that we can do.
719
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,000
I love it too.
Because, like, you know, both of
720
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,100
us have given takes that the
other one is disagreed with, but
721
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:27,700
it's also a really refreshing to
read people who don't know how
722
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:29,400
to string together a cogent
thought.
723
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:32,500
And then realize like, yeah
might disagree with Brad but
724
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:36,400
he's a very intelligent man.
Yeah, I appreciate that bomb.
725
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,500
I usually think the same thing
about you.
726
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:44,100
All right, so our first hot take
today is from CC, the movie Man,
727
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:48,500
one at IMDb.
Not but can I just tell you that
728
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:52,000
more than the actual reviews?
I think my favorite part is
729
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,400
listening to you say, these
peoples usernames.
730
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,200
See see the movie, Man one, he
wrote this back in 2006.
731
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,000
So maybe his, his opinion has
changed.
732
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,700
But his one star review is
called Pure Rob Reiner.
733
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,200
Meg, Ryan garbage.
Oh man.
734
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,600
The quote cute movie of the
year.
735
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,600
Quote, a wonderful comic
Valentine.
736
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:19,300
These are just two of the
Reviews made by famous critics,
737
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:22,800
who mostly raved about this
film, which, and I know this is
738
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,700
unpopular to say was a
disgusting piece of crap.
739
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:29,500
Wow, the whole film was nothing
but sex talk.
740
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:32,800
Hey, I don't mind some of that.
It can be very funny but the
741
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,600
whole movie nothing but sex talk
after sex talk come on.
742
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:40,600
Well two people that made this a
very overrated film our director
743
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,400
Rob Reiner and actress.
Meg, Ryan Reiner is a sleaze
744
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,600
from way back and extremists who
Has no clue what morals are and
745
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,700
I don't ever believe.
I have seen a good movie, which
746
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:54,000
starred Meg, Ryan, she has a
beautiful face but that's it.
747
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:56,700
Her movies are consistent.
I'll give her that they all
748
00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:01,300
stink one star, that kind of
sounded like a shut up and
749
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:04,200
dribble.
Yeah, review.
750
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,100
Yeah, I love how they use a
pretty face, but stop acting.
751
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:08,500
I love that.
They just had to get a little
752
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:11,200
bit of objectification in there
before they gave it one star.
753
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,200
Yeah, yeah, that.
All right.
754
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,900
So you see the movie man, you
are Reviewing movies and you
755
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:19,100
should go home.
Alright.
756
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,300
Our second and final hot take
for today comes from Paul
757
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:25,400
Jeanette this man just put his
full name in the user name.
758
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,600
So Paul Jeanette his one-star
review.
759
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,400
A real disappointment as this
movie was quote, advertised as
760
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,300
being a very good and
entertaining motion picture.
761
00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:38,800
I was really looking forward to
it and looking forward to some
762
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,100
good laughs.
Unfortunately, the movie turned
763
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:45,200
out to be a real dud and
Unforgettable disappointment.
764
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:49,200
Rob Reiner is an exceptionally
good director and Billy Crystal
765
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,000
and Meg.
Ryan are exceptional actors.
766
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,100
But either the script or the
timing was terrible.
767
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,100
I laughed once at Rob, Reiner's
mother's line in the restaurant
768
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:00,900
and that was it.
I didn't even smile through the
769
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,600
rest of the movie.
Not to mention.
770
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,900
I never felt the urge to weep if
you won't make them laugh.
771
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:10,100
First, make them cry.
Sadly, it was a real waste of 96
772
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:14,500
Minutes.
One star, one star, literally
773
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:18,000
everything that we talked about
in the first After the episode,
774
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,600
he just like tore apart and was
like, no terrible timing.
775
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Nothing made me laugh.
No, physical comedy.
776
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,400
That was funny.
This is a terrible movie.
777
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,800
I also love that like one of his
criteria is.
778
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,400
It should have made me weep like
just because I didn't find it.
779
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,600
Funny means that it should have
just gone the other way.
780
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,400
And at least made me cry.
Yeah, I that's an obvious
781
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,100
critique.
I don't know why we didn't think
782
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:40,900
of it already Bob.
So that has been this week's
783
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,100
edition of hot takes.
All right.
784
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:46,800
So Brad, you know, we could go
in a ton of different Current
785
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,600
directions with this.
We could talk about our favorite
786
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,200
lines from the movie, but there
are just so many good lines in
787
00:40:51,207 --> 00:40:53,600
this movie that I think we would
just end up quoting the whole
788
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,600
thing.
I think maybe the best place to
789
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:00,300
go is to talk about the sort of
cultural impact that this had on
790
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:04,400
the genre of romantic comedies.
You even hinted at the beginning
791
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,200
of the episode, Brad, that you
could see the impact that this
792
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,000
movie had.
And it's fingerprints were all
793
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,400
over the place.
So, I'm wondering.
794
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,400
What about this movie reminded
you of other romantic comedies?
795
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,800
There is something about This
movie that you just see it.
796
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,700
Echoed in so many different
romantic comedies throughout the
797
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:28,100
years, whether it's through the
narration of the main character
798
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,800
talking about what's happening,
but there's something about
799
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,100
that, that as I was watching,
When Harry Met Sally, I was
800
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:35,800
like, oh yeah.
Like you can see these narrative
801
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,800
elements in later rom-coms, the
way that they use, like a
802
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,400
cutscene in the middle of it
with no dialogue where you just
803
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,900
see Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal,
Still struggling to purchase a
804
00:41:47,908 --> 00:41:51,900
Christmas tree together, you
know, or do other such fun kind
805
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:56,600
of friendly things together.
You see that in so many
806
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,400
different romantic comedies that
you have to imagine that When
807
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,900
Harry Met Sally, influence those
in deep and meaningful ways, I'm
808
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:10,600
sorry, Harry, I know it.
You can't show up here.
809
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,600
Tell me you love me.
I expect that to make
810
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,300
everything.
All right, it doesn't work this
811
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,200
way.
Well, how does it work?
812
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:22,300
How about this way?
I love that.
813
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:24,400
You get cold.
When it's 71 degrees out.
814
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:27,000
I love that it takes you an hour
and a half to order a sandwich.
815
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,500
I love to get a little crinkle
above your nose when you're
816
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,400
looking at me.
Like, I'm nuts, I love that.
817
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,000
After I spend the day with you,
I can still smell your perfume
818
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,200
on my clothes and I love that
you are the last person I want
819
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,200
to talk to you before I go to
sleep at night.
820
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:42,700
And it's not because I'm lonely
and it's not because it's New
821
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:44,900
Years Eve.
I came here tonight because when
822
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,200
you realize you want to spend
the rest of your life with
823
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,900
somebody, you want the rest of
your life to start, as soon as
824
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:59,100
possible.
You see that is just like you
825
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:02,600
Harry, you say things like that
and you make it impossible for
826
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,100
me to hate you.
Yeah, this is another one of
827
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:09,900
those movies like, alien last
week, where I can see the movies
828
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,400
that influenced it.
And then I can also see the
829
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,200
movies in influence because
there's a lot of Annie Hall in
830
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,800
this movie.
And, you know, I'm thinking of
831
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,100
the one scene where it's right
after they first had sex and
832
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,500
they're trying to decide how to
break the news to each other,
833
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,500
that they think it was a mistake
and all you hear is like their
834
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,200
internal monologue.
So you got narration in this
835
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,300
movie where you normally
wouldn't that's something that
836
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:33,600
Woody Allen did.
But then I also think about, you
837
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,100
know, we did 500 Days of Summer.
Summer last season and I was
838
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:39,500
really shocked at how many
things I thought 500 Days of
839
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,100
Summer.
Just kind of straight up stole
840
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,900
from this movie.
The, the old people talking to
841
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:47,400
the camera, there's a whole
montage in 500 Days of Summer of
842
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,500
all the major characters,
talking about how they met their
843
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:53,000
significant other, like,
directly into the camera.
844
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000
And it's done in the exact same
way, where they cut away from
845
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,100
the main narrative and put it in
as this little interlude.
846
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:02,400
And then, I was even thinking
about the scene, where they go
847
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,500
into Sharper Image and they're
sending into the Machine.
848
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,200
And it reminded me so much of
the scene where summer and Tom
849
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,900
go to Ikea and they're picking
out stuff at Ikea and I was
850
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:14,900
like, oh my gosh, they lifted
the scene directly out of When
851
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:18,100
Harry Met Sally, it was just so
interesting to me and I don't
852
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:21,500
know if it really takes away my
appreciation for 500 Days of
853
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:25,100
Summer, but you can definitely
see how this movie.
854
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:29,200
Just has such a huge impact on
the whole genre after it.
855
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:32,800
Well, and as we look at this
cultural impact, I think it's a
856
00:44:32,808 --> 00:44:36,600
good way to segue into Do you
know what kind of a score would
857
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,700
you give this movie Bob?
You know, you see that not only
858
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:43,000
is it a brilliant movie, you
know, and its own time, but I
859
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,800
think it's aged, well, it still
made me laugh in 2019, 30 years
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later.
So, what kind of score would you
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give this movie when you
consider the cultural impact its
862
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had?
And just, what a great movie, it
863
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was.
So this movie is currently
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sitting at a 7.6 on IMDb and I
think it's a low, but I can also
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understand it because this is
one of those movies where I
866
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think Everyone can acknowledge
that everyone brings their a
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game, the direction, the writing
the acting is all Top Notch.
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And I think everybody except for
the two reviews we read today,
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really does see this as a funny
movie, but it depends on how
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much you like comedies.
I can understand someone giving
871
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this a seven.
I can also understand someone
872
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giving this a 10.
And so when I came out of my
873
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first viewing of this movie, I
was like, you know, I don't know
874
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if I'd give it a perfect 10, but
I definitely give it a nine
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point five.
I've and I watch it again last
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night in preparation for this.
And even then I was like, maybe
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I'd give it a nine.
So I understand how scores can
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be all over the place.
I think for me right now, I will
879
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say this is a nearly perfect
movie.
880
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,100
I think it's going to grow on me
even more over the years, but
881
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right now, I'm going to settle
at a 9 out of 10.
882
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:56,200
I'm going to give you the exact
same score Bob.
883
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,100
I think that 9 out of 10 is
perfect.
884
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,800
There are little things here and
there throughout the movie that
885
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might not be perfectly done or
they might miss a beat here
886
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:06,400
there.
But Overall, this is, this is
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00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,600
pretty close to being a perfect
movie and it's just brilliant,
888
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,700
and it's writing and its
direction and its pacing.
889
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,400
I was very impressed with this
movie and I am going to give it
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a 9 out of 10.
Well, there you have it, we both
891
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:20,300
give it 9.
So that makes our average really
892
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:23,300
easy to figure out, but we want
to hear what you have to say.
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00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,500
So please get on social media.
You can find us on Facebook on
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00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:29,900
Twitter and on Instagram Brad
where can they find us at film
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00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:31,700
whiskey?
Or you could give us a call at,
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00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:34,000
leave a voicemail on our call in
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00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:40,100
You remember the number 1216 800
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Six eight hundred five, nine
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two, three next week, we're
going to be kicking off four
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straight weeks where we watch
films from what is widely
901
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regarded as the greatest year in
cinema history. 1939 and we're
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going to start off with mr.
Smith Goes to Washington for the
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film and whiskey podcast, I'm
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you next time.
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We're getting together every
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