Top Fives: 24-Hour Movies

0:00 As we get into today's episode, I just want to take a second, remind you that there's a ton of extra content, available to the members of film and whiskey Nation who support us through our patreon. Check us out on patreon.com film, whiskey. Hey everybody. Welcome into the film and whiskey podcast. I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and we're hanging out at new riff. Distillery new riff. We have crossed the river into Kentucky, made it made it all the way over that. Bridge man this is the first time we've recorded in person in a long time so we're in Kentucky in September. Yeah it's been a while man. We're in between Seasons six and seven right now. Yeah.

0:41 And we're doing a little special bonus episode because we all see food, we received a very special invitation from our friend, Jay ayersman at new riff. The greatest, the bearded Jason here right next to us. I'll spare the graphic details of just exactly how Unbelievably sexy. This beard is it is wearing. Now just think about Stallone and Rambo for Rocky for, sorry. What kind of movies are we talking about Jay? How are you today? I'm all right. Jay has unmistakably and without question. One of the best voices in the world of whiskey. Yeah, easily. Every time he's on the show, there's a reason he hasn't been on in six seasons and it's because I'm afraid he's gonna usurped my Throne ezel every time he's on.

1:27 Yeah, I mean, we all know that you have the best. Voice on this podcast Bob. I mean, you know, but Jay if he were a regular guest, it would be closed is more intelligent and has a better voice. It's true. So so we're on site at Nur if we're going to be sampling, some Whiskey's today and we're going to be doing a top 5 episode with a really, really killer theme. This was all Jays idea, you know, he is the brainchild of this podcast horror slasher theme killer theme Here, guys. We're going to be looking at Whiskey's that come from the Mm day of production. So we're trying three Bourbons that were all produced on the same day and we're going to be looking at movies. That take place over the course of one day.

2:07 Those are our top fives, a twenty four-hour movie. Brilliant. Not I'm so excited. Yeah, I'm really excited to Bob. It is wonderful to be here today. First off, thanks for having us. Glad to have you back. This is Brad's first time at New riff. We've taken a little tour of the facility and the, the tour is apropos to what we're talking about here. Because of the way that they distill their bourbon. All their Whiskey's here at Nur if Jay. Can you tell us a little bit more about the process and how that affects the three Bourbons were drinking today? Sure. Thing Bob so at new riff we have, we have now nine fermenters, we expanded a year ago, just about with nine more with seven, eight and nine. So we have these fermenters and in a day's production, we empty three fermenters and and make three matches and fill them back up.

2:58 So it's three batches a At Nur, if it doesn't seem like that now, because we run in a 24-hour cycle, not 24/7, but 24 hours. So sometimes in a day we actually put into barrel for but conceptually, we always thought of quote, unquote, a day's production as being three batches and for reasons that will explain in a little bit because of our unique size and the layout of the building and some of the architectural. Constraints, we have and so on, we don't have huge tanks to store spirit in. And so, when we make these three batches, we distill a fermenter and that goes in a Spirits tank, we call it the gauge tank and it's where we gauge the whiskey, which is to find out exactly how much whiskey do we have here?

3:49 And in terms of alcohol, as well as just liquid gallons. So we gauge the whiskey and we cut it to 110 proof which is are barreling, proof, rather low, barreling proof And put it in the barrel and now the tank is empty. So then we go into still another fermenter and we put that in the tank, we cut that to 110 proof and we put that in the barrel. So now that one's empty and we do three of these and that's considered a day's production and that's differently than the way most distilleries run, especially larger ones than us and we are sort of a mid-major Distillery. We make twelve thousand barrels a year. We make 40 odd barrels a day. 42, barrels a day.

4:29 Which is no small bit of production. I mean, it's healthy a little bit of whiskey. It's a little bit of whiskey, but we're still in many other ways small. And so these tanks, only hold the output of one fermentation. Well, one if we could one batch which is about 12 to 14 barrels and most distilleries, don't really operate that way. They have a much larger tank that they send their Spirits into. They call it a cistern tank and they distill a fermenter and it goes in the cistern tank, and they distilled another fermenter, and that goes in the tank. They distill three more from enters. The tank is as big as your house and eventually they start cutting that down to proof and putting it into the barrel. What they've done is homogenized, any differences between all those different fermenters that they ran off and For Better or Worse, we don't run that way.

5:16 That's a super smart way for those distilleries to operate because it builds a lot of consistency into what's going into the barrel. We're small enough that we just can't have these huge tanks so we do not homogenize the flavor of each batch. And we preserve to a much larger degree than most places, the individual character of each fermentation. And the truth is, we know each fermentation each given batch. I mean, I don't mean the tank itself, like tank number one, has a sweet flavor, that's not it at all, but each given batch can have a unique character, a particular character. And we know that because we taste all 12 to 14 barrels of each batch. So he takes the 13 barrels out of that fermentation, and it's generally sweet. And the next one is generally Dry the next one, might be spicy.

6:02 The next one might be Smoky what that means. For years later when we're making single barrels, we present to the consumer. A product that not only captures the flavor of that particular piece of wood, you know, that particular Barrel, that that influence that, that whiskey, and also the character of where that Barrel was stored in the warehouse. Was it high? Was it LO, was it sitting in the sun? Things like that. But we also offer them this fermentation character, and The result is that new riff single Barrels have got a tremendous range of flavor so much so that if somebody sample just a newer single barrel and and they don't really like sweet whiskey and that one happened to be a really dry tasting patch. They might finally a bourbon, that's not too sweet and they try the next one and it is sweet and now they're upset. I'm sorry, that could happen.

6:50 If you do your whiskey consumer, please buy the bottled in bond from new riff. But our single barrels can have a tremendously variable. Character to them, that captures that, as a whiskey nerd, whiskey lover. I find that fun. I find it fascinating. Fascinating, I wouldn't have it any other way. So it's always, you know, intrigued me to compare the difference between a day's production. And, of course, I've tasted umpteen bajillion batches of them and certainly tasted many different days, but I've never sat down like this, to do it, with some other people to do, it sort of analytically, and to have some fun with it. So, when you go into something like this, like a days, Production is the intent. Usually, these are these are intended for single barrels or they could end up as bottled in bond. They could end up batch together, like, you know, not necessarily these three that are in front of us. But like what would the intent be when you sit down with multiple samples from a day's production? Well, we analyze each batch and, and and taste each batch. We actually sample and analyze damn near every Peril. It is, people say all the time, I want that job, you know. Are you hiring, buddy?

8:01 You don't want to be hired for that job. It is actually really difficult and exhausting work, but we got to do it. I'm saying that without an ounce of facetiousness. Yeah. You know, it's, it is, it is fun. But it's very taxing. So we do sample, almost all of them and determine is this Barrel fit for a single barrel. And when I say fit, I don't mean that the best of the best all go to the single barrels, we're really looking for, obviously a good. Distant quality across the entire sample and experience. But also for something unique, you know, does that Barrel? That batch what's got? So we have to save some of those to become our bottled in bond, which is made from a batching together a wedding.

8:47 If you will of about 25 to 30, maybe 20 to 30 barrels and then we also hold back about twenty to thirty percent of everything we make to become older. And so that's another future life. For these Whiskey's. Which, which of them do we hold back, but we don't go into it saying. This batch is all going to go single. That's not really it at all, from a given batch. We probably cut it up about three different ways. Plenty of it goes to bottled and bond. Some of it will go to single barrel production and some will be held back. I'm curious. Jay, do you feel like in the, in the world of the whiskey consumer, it seems to me, like, people have been slowly moving away from the more established Brands and just venturing out into The wild west of craft distilleries and everything that's going on out there.

9:34 Where do you feel like new riff is positioned in there. Where like you said, you're kind of a mid-major producer. You're not just some tiny craft Distillery but you're also diving into that a little bit more experimental, a little more variety of flavor that you would get from a place like that. Right. Good question Brad. Well we don't really conceive of ourselves as as craft whatever that means. Yeah, we have much more in common with the Four Roses of the world than we do. You know a guy in a shack with a pot, still cranking It Out by hand and things like that field but it must act now it was that the guy in the gal in the shack with the pot still that did did play a huge inspiration in us. You know, it's building new riff and creating it undoubtedly, had it not been for the the craft distilling wave in the in. The early 2000s.

10:23 So we always thought we have first of all, such inspiration and such a legacy of great whiskey producing and Kentucky behind us generations of people that made this industry what it is. And we never think that we're just going to supplant all that whatsoever. That was our inspiration. I love it easily. One of the best looking bottles. Thank you. My gosh. Every time I see it I'm like that transition from the matte black to the here's the thing, Packaging. Matters it really. I don't care what anybody says and you know, we've, we've talked to a wide range of people on this podcast and sometimes people that are very traditionalists. And, and purists will say that, like, anything that's in a flashy looking package, is just a gimmick and it's all marketing and no packaging matters. Yeah, and you know, the thing I love about new riff is it's one of the few that we found where the packaging is as striking as what's inside of the bottle.

11:16 Yep. All right, Brad. It is time for us to talk movies. We're going to go to a quick break. When we come back, we'll be breaking. I'm down our top 5. 24-hour movies. What do you say? Let's get to it. All right, Brad, it's time for us to break down our top 5 movies that take place in the course of a day. Hmm, this was kind of a hard list to make because, you know, we've watched a lot of movies that take place in real time. So like a, you know, an hour and a half log movie, that is supposed to be 90 minutes long, right? And I'm thinking of a really fun little movie from like the early 2000s called phone booth that I'm really operates that way. I didn't choose a movie like that. I wanted a movie where like sunup to sundown.

11:57 Yeah, was for Most part the central conceit of the movie. And I think I've got a pretty good list, how you feel about your list, great Trio, life right up there. Now he gets about the entire creation but liver days of creation. Yeah, that's what you wanted. All right, Brad. Why don't you kick us off here? Jay actually has just one movie. He wants to talk about. He said, forget your top fives does movie is as good as five films. That's right. That's all I'll kick in with a couple of them. Please do you guys may not. Cover or more to the point include a couple that I love and they're really great movies and blah blah blah but wouldn't inform or Echo.

12:38 What we have learned about new riffs day of production. Are you guys there's a movie out there that that I thought did so it was a very bad day. Alright. Yeah, Dog Day Afternoon, that's a man. Don't get too far ahead, doesn't get much better than that. Alright so my number five, this is honestly based a little more Memory then on having watched the film recently, but I remember watching The Taking of Pelham 123 in, probably the mid 2000s. I was probably a mid teenage years. Are you talking the remake or the original, the Johnny Travolta and Zell Washington? I just remember that movie being incredibly suspenseful.

13:20 Yeah. And some great action in it, that movie is really underrated and you know, people have really come around on the original. It's got In a recent re-release in 4k and people have been, you know, praising the original from the 70s, I loved the Remake, I thought they know, it's a Tony Scott movie who's a director that I want to do on the podcast at some point. But I really really love that movie. Yeah, it's especially with a very hammy, John Travolta villain performance. Yep. Like it does not get much better than that and Denzel being that ends up being Denzel. So, yeah, that is my number five. My number five is a movie from 1995. And the start of a Trilogy that is really beloved in film circles from the director, Richard linklater, it's a movie called Before Sunrise. I love this movie, does the whole movie happened before state does?

14:08 Yeah, so it's about Ethan, Hawke's character is an American overseas in Europe and he's kind of like one of these movies, like a snooty college kid. Mmm, and he meets Julie delpy. He's character who's a French girl who's also traveling and they just spend an evening walking around the streets of some European city. And falling in love. And what I love about that movie is Ethan. Hawke's character is so obviously like 22 years old. Yeah. And he knows everything about the world and he thinks he's being super deep and philosophical and then you know not to spoil everything. But the second film in the trilogy happens, like, I don't know, seven years later. And now before long now they're 30, it's called Before Sunrise Before Sunset and then before midnight or the three movies, do they die in the third one?

14:55 I broke. Um, You're just the worst Before. Sunrise is my number if I film right. Hit us with your number four. Yeah, number four is a film. We just did recently in season. Six collateral. Oh nice. Famously takes place in one evening. Yeah yeah five stops five stops five deaths. Quite a few more than five minutes. It wouldn't be a film in whiskey episode of Brad. Did not get the chance to talk about Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise is the reason we still have Cinema, so had a podcast, a pair, and a podcast. So that's all I'm going to say there is something to that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if not for top gun Maverick we wouldn't be here.

15:40 We wouldn't know. Not hyperbole, none of us. We'd all be dead. And I mean, I guess that's a perfect segue. I think we should Dive Right into these three samples. We've poured them all out in front of us, we know nothing about them Brad. Other than that, they were distilled on the same day. I was in and they're from new. Or if they're from new riff. So J. We are in your hands. Can you walk us through these samples? Sure. So we have in front of us, three samples that were distilled. We're Puttin the barrel, but probably distilled on December 9th, 2018. So these turned for back in December and they are part of our Single Barrel selection barrels right now.

16:22 So some some Lucky Soul will come along and and find a Made in one of these barrels and take it home to their store or their restaurant, or their borrow whatever. So, or their home literally. We sell private perils to, to the public as well. Sell a lot of those. So, on the top of the, of the little bottle, here, I have written down the lot code. This is the federal government's, preferred code for how we refer to a batch. It's called 18l 09 and that translates to 18 the year 2018. Mean, l is the month, December? Okay? It's okay. ABCD a is January 18, L 09, of course, 18 lo9 is the is the ninth of that month.

17:07 So we have 18l 09:18 lo9 a and 18l 09b and respectively. Those Barrel numbers are one five, five, three, five, one five, five, zero one, five, five, six, six. Be on the lookout. Yeah. You hit your retail stores here in the next few years. I guess. No, sir, I need to see the number of the barrel, please. Well, it's on there on single-barrel someday someone will find this. So what we have here is is and I tasted these earlier so I can vouch for them all. I didn't go necessarily selecting a day with wildly different character.

17:49 In all three batches that would have been finding. It was hard enough to find this. It took about 20 minutes. But it would be really tough to find two intent. Fully find a day that that had they did. In fact, have wildly different care. I want a smoky one, Anna, sweet one, and a dry one. But we run across this kind of days and on any given day, any again, any given batch can have particular character. So with that in mind. Let's let's start just by nosing them. One, two, three really beautiful I. So I'd let it sit for about 5-10 minutes here and I just knows it as is. And it was just really deep brown sugar and I mean, it was a classic bourbon nose with absolutely no ethanol burn on the nose whatsoever. It was almost like really fresh post rain water, like it smelled fresh, and I gave it a little agitated, it a little bit, I swirl it around and then these really beautiful floral notes came out the spice.

18:48 Came back a little bit. I almost get like a little wisp of Dill on the end of this two. Agates just really, really beautiful. Yeah, for me, it wasn't necessarily Dale. As a little bit minty, almost like a sweet mint mixed with like a buttered popcorn. Like I think that this is a really buttery almost creamy type of nose here. Those herbal notes. You're describing. I would certainly a tribute to the Rye in our whiskey, and it's a high rhyme Asheville, 30% r. I so there can definitely be a And herbaceousness coming from deal. Sometimes and mint in particular is common, especially common in our rye whiskey, which is 95% R. I5 % Malta dry. So that is a very spicy meatball of a whiskey and mint and not like peppermint or or Altoids or toothpaste or something. But more of a floral herbaceous like Wintergreen spearmint possibly crossing over into things like sassafras or Sarsaparilla people.

19:48 Sometimes Say, hey, remember those root beer candies, we ate when we were kids, a little root beer barrels like that, it can sometimes virgin to that kind of a flavor from the Rye. Yeah, and even as I give that number one, A Taste oh-ho, man, the Rye is just at the right amount where you get the brown sugar, the caramel like I said almost like a buttery salty popcorn but that that herbaceousness comes through the rice spices there on the back end Jay. That's an incredible whiskey. I will say this is like, you know, Brad is the Rye Drinker of the two of us. I'm the bourbon guy and I prefer my Bourbons to be like, let's be frank here. Like sickly sweet.

20:28 I love a sweet permit. Brad likes, his really strong ride punch on a bourbon and this one definitely tips on the flavor, you know the Palin into the right like it has the bourbon sweetness at the front of the palate and then the mint and the Rye really take over towards the back of the palette. For me. It's really beautiful but it definitely has a spice to it. Yeah. Are there any other tasting notes on number one that you think we may have missed here? Oh, I think you pretty much covered it for me. The fascinating part is comparing these three and seeing how, you know, an analogy I use sometimes is like a mixing board. You guys are recorded on a guitar player on the I'm a recorder also. We deal with mixing board and you push the faders up and things like that.

21:10 These have broadly similar characters. I don't think there's anything in here that stands out like a sore thumb like the I And the Smoky flavor truly there is like one in about, I don't know, 20, 18 or 20. If we sit down and taste, you know, a month or a month and a half production, we eventually run across a smoky batch and I do not know why it gets smoked, it's not the barrel. It is not the barrel or else any given Barrel would have some, some percentage chance of being a smoky one. Know, it's something in the damn fermentation and I can't imagine what it is see. That's that's what I just love about. Whiskey. Yeah, like, I have at this point, we have talked to people from so many different distilleries all across the Spectrum from owners to distillers to everything and nobody has an answer. As to why this isn't a science, it is a science. It like the funny thing is, you could break this down on the molecular level and say, like, oh this has the presence of this many different types of things in it, that this one doesn't. And, yeah, there's no explaining how it got that. How it got exactly.

22:17 And that's the Part for me where I'm like, yes, it's a science, but it's not a mystery, it's an art and it's a mystery and I love that. Well, you're talking about smokiness and honestly that segues me into number 2 here because if I can go down memory lane for a minute Brad, you know, that I got up. I grew up Catholic, you should I was an altar, server, fails and snarls, baby bells and smell for a number of years. I was, you know, donning, the white robe. And were you an altar boy? I was. Yeah, yeah. This you serving me or so much of like, the combo of freshly washed like white linens. Uh-huh. And freshly extinguished church, candle wax.

22:59 Like, it has like a wax Enos and like a extinguished Wick to it. There's a smokiness to this. That is like, I feel weird because I'm drinking whiskey, but I'm also remembering being, like, 10 years old. So it's very conflicted. You just feel like your soul, I'm sitting pun hardcore right now. Yeah, I was at, hey, If there's anybody who doesn't drink in the Christian world, it's the Protestants not the Catholics. Yeah, this one. It has a real again, once again, it's a clean scent to it. Yeah, we use these words sometimes, then, I like that, they're more evocative than they are descriptive. But, you know, Brad, when we drink Irish whiskey, we always use the word bright. Get reminds us of citrus and melon. This one has like a very clean.

23:41 Your word of linen. Yeah, it was perfect. Absolutely. Yeah. Like like a freshly laundered and not like an old old teachers on Like already new freshly laundered. It's incredible. We're breaking down, like the, the level of cotton versus rayon Jay. How about you? What are you getting on this one? Yeah, I appreciate your comments of wax. That's a waxing us. That that is probably a an alarming or striking word that many people would run car wax. What are they? It comes from. A place of sort of lanolin, I often not often, but but I use that term in my own notes, both a lot for Scotch but also certainly for and for some wines chenin Blanc, for example, but I have written that down many times in a new riff tasting note.

24:30 This waxy quality in a lovely way? Beeswax often in fact sometimes the if our barrels pick up a sort of specifically honey ish characteristic, it often he's not just honey, but honeycomb and the intersection of something waxy. The bees have made, as well as as the honey itself. It's maybe a little bit sweeter than one but how interesting that it. It's not drastically. I think it's a little bit sweeter. You're the sweet tooth here. Bob you tell me but but but also sweeter in a different way than than number one. You know the funny thing is you're talking about the science and the things that interest you with this, I'm always really interested in the way that the ethanol presents itself because I imagine that these have to be very similar. Our proof points.

25:19 I don't know exactly what proof these are all sitting at. But number two, the ethanol was just much more forward and the mouthfeel was like I could tell that the the alcohol really presented itself. More on the pallet for me, it was kind of that more thin alcohol forward mouthfeel. The number one was more, definitely more syrupy more viscous for me. I don't know. What are you getting on this one? Brad. I think that Jay is you were talking about it being a little bit sweeter. I'm with you. It almost to me is like a bubblegum kind of sweet and and similar like with Not just the flavor but with the wax Enos of it. Like it almost kind of reminds me of like Major League Chew or is is out there. The the rope that you would get in the little thing, we're Children of the 90s so you've made to skip ahead to number three, but this was going to be, I was going to blow all of your minds and it was going to be by saying this, you're welcome, I had nosed all three of these even if we hadn't tasted them yet and the consistent thing I got On all three of these. Was that powdery pink bubblegum that you open up bubble tape. Yep.

26:23 Pull yourself out. Some of them, there's a bubble gum especially on number three when we get that on the nose, that is like unmistakable. Yeah, yeah. I think that I'm getting that a lot on the palate of number two. Yeah, and I guess we can go ahead and jump into number 3 here. This one is kind of The Best of Both Worlds of one and two it has some of those more classic bourbon notes on the nose. That one had a little bit brighter, a little bit cleaner on the nose reminiscent of number two and then it's got some bubble gum. Yeah, you know. Yeah. No number three is incredible. I think it is a little bit of a mixture for me. I do get a little more of the the traditional caramel that you're getting from from most Bourbons. Whereas the first two had a little more unique Twist on. That this one feels like a really rich classic bourbon, but as you were saying Jay like being from the same day, you know, three different batches.

27:17 It feels like there's a similar Earnest there that you just don't see on a lot of other whiskeys. Yeah, there is some commonality between them all I think. And yet the the again the the faders, the sliders of the mixing board are moving around the EQ. Curve, you know, this one's got You know, the scoop out the mid-range but it's got more high-end. And so on speaking in musical terms, and that's even without, I don't think we've gotten into adding water to these but that will, of course shift and bring out additional flavors. That's when people have been asking me for 20 plus years back to my days as a retailer at the store next door.

27:58 How should I drink? How do you think we should drink our whiskey? And I've been telling them all that time. Drink it. Anyway, you want? Just buy it from me. That's it. I tell them. I drink it with a little water especially when it's a nun. Chill filtered whiskey like new riff is, but here I actually appreciate. I think tasting them initially and I always add water to my new riff whiskey, but I haven't here today. And I think it's instructive to just try them, sort of prima facie, you know. Right on the face of it without getting into the variables, that other flavors can come out with water. Let's just compare them straight up. The reason. They're so harmonious at Barrel proofing, these are bear-proof samples. I pulled them right out of the barrel.

28:38 Myself just a few hours ago. They go in the barrel. As I said, at 110 proof for years later. They, they are up a little bit improved, maybe to 113, 114 or down to maybe, 107 108. Let's just call these about 110-proof. They're very tractable, very approachable, straight up. What you never get with a new riff. Single Barrel is 139 proof, too strong to bring it on an airplane. Proof that kind of Right? Which people groove on that and it's may be fun. It's also hard to drink obstreperous just very obnoxiously strong whiskies and when people don't add water to that.

29:19 Now they're really facing down some, some some stiff, drink and hours are very approachable. If you do want to have a, an experience like this, which I would add, and here's my ulterior motive of selling, some more bottles of new riff. But when you're buying out there in the world, World, a single barrel of new riff. See if the store has got two single barrels, see if there's 22 bottles on that shelf, with with different numbers, with, with different numbers especially that are well apart from each other. If you if you find bear 100 and bear 150 you can be assured. Those are from different Lots or too fast or has got new riff Single Barrel as well as their Barrel selection.

30:01 Please buy a bottle of each but you compare them and you're getting Again, not just the difference between the barrels, you're getting a window into the fermentation and that I just don't know of any place else again. We didn't plan it this way. Serendipitously! That's how these come out and we're not going to change it now. We're not going to put in a huge tanks. We can mix up all our Bourbon and get rid of all this inconsistency. It's a beautiful inconsistency. And we again, I haven't done this before. So really thank you guys for coming. And yeah, kind of pushing me to do this. No why? Hey, You for offering us this little, you know, slice of a day in the life of new riff. But what are your takeaways the expert here on new riff from December 9th, 2018?

30:47 Well, I wish I could reply with some scientific certainty of what was going on as we were discussing earlier. I don't know what the hell happened on the other day. Like, like most days of production at new riff, it was a good day in the words of that Immortal, Bard Ice Cube. It was a good day. My number for film is 1973 George, Lucas, American Graffiti, who I love this movie, man. It is, there's something about the Shag Enos of it and it's just a hangout movie where people are making big decisions in their lives, but it just has the feel of any other night in a small town in California in the early 60s. Licorice, pizza borrowed a lot from that movie. The opening credits are literally ripped from America. Graffiti and I love that it has the same kind of flow and Rhythm to it it's a movie that I really really want us to get around to watching.

31:45 Soon does American Graffiti is that the Cherry Bomb seen that in licorice pizza? Then happens in American Graffiti to. Yep. Yeah, that's my number for nice j.i. You said you might have a few extra movies to throw in there with it was there. Actually, I would chime in on American Graffiti. I didn't really seriously consider that. Although as I Googled, you know, films that take place. Some 24 hours. Yep, that was on the list and I thought, yeah, there's a four. So a new Riff on an old tradition. Our Mantra on the back of the bottle of new riff and that that's the old tradition that's the Halcyon Days Of Youth. And and what we grew up with and the past and and glorifying and and remembering in sepia toned lenses and so on that that that that era and the past, and that might have been fun but that's not That's only half of new riff, right?

32:39 Yeah, we need we need a new Riff on an old tradition. So so no I wasn't going to go for American Graffiti, but great choice. Well, thank you. I feel like that was kind of a backhanded compliment Jay. You did. All right there, Bob wouldn't be my choice but good job. What's Your Number 3? Brad. My number three. I'm actually going to hold off on because I would hate. That's right to do the wrong thing. Brad's number three is Empire. That's yeah I don't want to steal his thunder so I will go ahead and do my number three I think I don't want to steal your thunder Bob. My number three is Dog Day Afternoon a movie that Brad she famously loves ya and has no qualms with whatsoever, not a single one, it is truly one of the better you know suspenseful films that take place over the course of a day.

33:29 Bob, when I have an issue with movies, it's usually not that I don't like the movie, like, I like Sunday afternoon. Yeah, big movie. Yeah, it's when you give 10 out of 10, When two movies that I'm like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless, Mind is not a 10/10 film. It's not, it's a 9.5. Did you ever feel like you overcorrect to like, try to make the average score? Be closer to what you think it should be? No, you do that? I absolutely, I know you do that. Absolutely? No. I try to be pretty accurate with my, all right, my scoring Dog Day Afternoon. You'd still sitting at like a seven and a half on that one. Yeah, I'd have to go back and revisit it but it was, it was good. It was in Paris, we We'll put.

34:10 All right. That takes us to our number two picks Brad where you sit at number two, my number-two pick is a another film that we did on the podcast. It's High Noon. High Noon, a great. See, that's a real time movie. Yeah. It's like this movie takes place in 85 minutes or something. And it's I think it's 87, something like that. It's just an incredible film and it really ratchets up the tension to. Yeah. When it finally hits noon, It. I mean like the orc. I remember that scene where, you know, the clock, strikes noon, the orchestra, kind of swells. There's like this big booming beat in the background and then you get that wonderful shot of Gary Cooper just walking out into the empty Street and you get that crane shot. That pulls all the way up and the entire town is deserted. I'm getting chills when he's by himself. Yeah it is crushing.

35:01 Yeah, the movie. So perfectly balances, the suspenseful with, I mean the crushing yeah, I do I'm really know a better word for it. Yeah. The the way that they set him up to be such an incredible man and everybody knows it. Hmm. But nobody's going to help him. Yeah, I love that movie. My number two pick is actually Brad's number one, pick only. So we're down to only three films to discuss. Yeah, all of our number ones. I've been sitting on yours for a minute here. So why don't you reveal your number one? Yeah. My number one is 12 Angry Men. It's a perfect choice, man. It's a perfect movie. Bob like, it's just so good.

35:42 Hey, it's the 90-minute movie category, right? It's in its out its sharp. It doesn't spend any extra time doing. Anything frivolous be its Henry, Fonda being the most convincing human being that's ever existed in film one of your favorite notes to give on performances. You like is Ernest. Yeah, and that man is just since yeah sincere. Yeah, exactly. What sincere can see completely Earnest? Like the way the way that he just keeps going but could it be possible? Yeah, when he's when he's talking about the the 40 or 50 feet down the hallway and he's like, it was 100 out what time's it out.

36:22 He was like you have to be sprayed. This is a doubt it man. It's a great movie. My number one is do the right thing. I mean I think my number three do the thing. Ya, it's a perfect example of how things can shift so quickly and over the course of Day. And I think it's, for me, it's the best example of why a day is the perfect length to do in a movie because it's short enough that you can think about. Wow. When these people woke up they were completely different people than when they went to bed that night. Yep, but also throughout the course of a day you can see these little micro. I don't know. Say microagressions but yeah I like these little micro incidents Domino set all yeah they pile up and it's more of a Snowball Effect, right?

37:02 That it gets to the point where everything just kind of spills over. Yeah. And honestly like when You look at our world today and all the crazy stuff that goes on and it, every single one of those crazy incidents has a do, the right thing Dayton instructor for it. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And that's interesting. Well, Jay has been sitting on his movie here for a while now so we're going to let him go next. So yeah, a few others, I could have, could have considered, you know, Dog Day Afternoon. But but then, which of my whiskies is what was the character in that the the really unsavory once Al Was that his name? Oh yeah, yeah, which one is sow, which one gets capped in the head? You know, well that doesn't work so Dog, Day Afternoon.

37:45 There's great flicks, like one day flicks like Reservoir Dogs or well, I was going to say, Reservoir Dogs, at some point, but Pulp Fiction both of which and especially Pulp Fiction, this this almost conceit of the of the director in a wonderful way. They're great flicks chopping the movie up and part of the fun of it is of those films is The time on. What the hell happened? Yeah. Oh wait. I get it. Not gonna hold on. And this part is the first thing that happened, right? That's the last. And it was the opening shot and things like that. So those are fun. But those don't really reflect anything about how we go and make whiskey, so finding a one-day film. And, and it's not perhaps clinically.

38:27 Not in this category the way other films are. There are some like, high noon that unquestionably take place within a For our time frame. And with, with my picket, it's on the list when you Google it. So you know, it's official. But is it is it really in 24 hours and there's not necessarily markers that there are, there's not clocks and there's not a literal narrative sequence. It's clue it's a little bit. But yeah, I put the, but he takes place, there's nothing to say. It doesn't take place within 24 hours and with with other of the characters, they they frame The Narrative such that it does. And so as I went into this, I realized not only is it From one of my favorite directors, and a great movie and everything, but as I peeled away, the layers, if you will of this onion of how it told a story in its own filmmaking and in its narrative thrust, but applies manifestly to our model that we presented here of a day in the life of new reproduction.

39:27 What does that look like? And I'm afraid to say Bob, I have gone back to the well. Oh no, my feet. Film is rash Aman. Oh, I love this and playing here behind us on the, on the monitor, in our in our room here, in New riff. It's, it's I love it. When, when people drop that, that use of the word rash, Aman, to reflect multiple opinions of an event of a day, or something like that. And I did giggle inside that, I know what that means. And have known it. Since I was a teenager, I saw, I started getting into chorus Ava and for those of you who have some, some time to spend in your lives, go back and listen to our prior podcast, with film, and Whiskey, In which my pic was Seven.

40:20 Samurai also by cora����o, I promise, we do this again, it won't be chorus. I'll find something else until I won't, he's gonna take care of those guys. A, here's the funny thing. We've been doing this season based on directors, so we will pick a director and we'll watch three or four of their films. And we had so much fun doing it with season six that were carrying it into season seven. And one of our directors is Kurosawa fantastic, and it will be our first, our first set of foreign language film. Yeah. And so we would actually love to have you back on to talk about more side now. You've talked about Seven Samurai. You talked about rashomon. So I think what were the other two that we had picked out here? Ooo is here. Yeah. What was the other one? I don't know. I can pull this run of blood may be, but you gotta you gotta come back on, man.

41:03 We'll talk about. That would be shocking Cinema. So, Come on. If you're familiar with the movie, is the story of a samurai and a brigand, a bandit and the wife of the Samurai, and the apparently the brigand or Bandit attacks and rapes the wife, and the three of them are giving their account of what happened. And it's a moment in film history where the topic of what's called, bye, Film critic smarter than me about these things and unreliable narrator is introduced flashbacks up to this point. We're used to Enlighten the audience to the truth of what really happened and Kurosawa applies.

41:51 This to show, not only multiple flashbacks, multiple viewpoints, but the fact that none of them is true. Yeah. All three of the of the characters in their flashbacks, the the samurai, his wife and the Bandit a test or can Bess to the crime that wound up with the husband dead and a dagger in his chest. According to who you, you believe, there is also a fourth person who is a Woodcutter who is also apparently a witness. But also has his own agenda going on. Yeah. And at the end of the movie it concludes you still don't know what was the truth about. What the hell really happened? And that spoke to a model that described our Whiskey's here before us.

42:34 So you were asking earlier, I think Brad, You ask a question? Tell us about what happened on that day. December, 9th, 2018? Or as we say, federally 18 lo9. What the hell happened? And these three whiskeys have three different opinions, right? Well, I think this happened, I just set that up and you just knocked it out of the park. And and number three says, well, I think it was a minerally day. Clearly, there was something going on. And number two is got another opinion, who are we to believe? Yeah. Are we to believe the fourth Nader a door? Narrator? Who is And I'm going to sit here as the whiskey expert and say, well, let me explain what really happened. If I do that, you shouldn't believe me. Yeah, because that means chunk of it is, I don't know either exactly why each fermentation has a different character summer this Summer. That some are are black, some are white, some our Smoky, Etc. All new riff whiskey is a rash.

43:29 Aman upon, what goes on here on a daily basis? What does go on and what these three? All of them. Excellent. Whiskey's attest to Is our commitment to Quality. We're here to give you the unvarnished truth, you can decide maybe what happened, maybe you can decide, which one of the three really put the dagger in, in the film rashomon but that spoke powerfully to the the conceit, if you will of a day's production at new riff, what was that day? Like nobody knows what. I really hear you saying is that you guys need to partner with the Kurosawa estate and create a partnership. Like Kurosawa try? Yeah, shame on rye. There you go.

44:12 Well, we know now, YJ is the global brand ambassador at new riff. Yeah. Listen, would you have a job like this? And you're talking to people about your whiskey? And you're trying to sell them on the idea? You got to be able to tell a good story. I am super pumped to watch rashomon now. Yeah, can't wait till we get to that episode. But yeah, it's going to be an absolute blast. That's I've said for a while now. I'm like, I'm ready. I'm ready to dive in. I haven't watched curse. Sally yet. Partially out of I knew we would do him eventually in the podcast. But also out of the fact that I just I didn't watch foreign language films growing up, so I am really pumped. Alright, well, that's it for us at new riff today. Jay, thank you again so much for having us here. You bet.

44:53 We'll be back with another bonus episode here in a couple weeks. Hopefully Brad. Yeah, it's good to see you in person. It's great to be in person. We normally record these cities apart so we really do. All right, we'll see you guys next time.