The Secret Life of Walter Mitty / Glenlivet 12

0:00 In 2013 director and star Ben Stiller gave the world. A smooth ride into the world of one man's imagination in 2022. We try one of the world's most famous single malts. The film is The Secret Life of Walter, Mitty, the whiskey is the Glenlivet, 12-year and we'll review them both. This is the film and whiskey podcast.

0:44 Welcome to the film and whiskey podcast, where each week, we review a classic movie and a glass of whiskey. I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and this week we're looking at the 2013, Ben Stiller starring and directed film The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. Brad. This is not the first time this movie has come up on our podcast before. I feel like we've talked with a number of people during our my favorite movie series who have kind of floated this out there as a possibility. I know that Kate Douglas from old elk actually chose it as her favorite movie. So I like we've been kind of dancing around this one for a while. Now you've been given it like googly eyes in the hallway. We got to get it to fit their back that the exactly, exactly.

1:28 It's pretty much like Ben Stiller and Austin wiggin this? Yeah. All right. Listen. Hold on. Before we go any further like halfway through this movie? My wife was watching it with me last night. We both really liked this movie a lot. I just said, I wish these two had made more movies together, because I really like them together like that, every once in a while, you just see a star pairing and you're like, damn it. Why didn't we get more from them like Meg, Ryan and Billy Crystal, it's like I need, I need more of them. I like that. You're saying that like like they died. What if we get more out of them? While we had them we didn't know what we had before it was gone. Dude. I'm not gonna lie. I really, really despise, Kristen wigs, comedy style, not a fan at all.

2:17 I think that almost nothing she does is genuinely funny. She's spectacular as a serious actor. Oh, she's a great actress. Yeah, like so so good in this movie and the one or two moments where she like kind of gave into her awkward humor a little bit. It worked because she came off as like a normal human being. Yep. Totally agreement. I just had a but I'm way far away from her in her, like, actual comedy, comedy routine. I like how even when I try to set you up, I give you like the lob of all lobs. The alley-oop to end. All alley-oops. How great is this John Starks?

2:58 I'm too Patrick. Yes, in NBA Jam. How great is this romantic couple and you're like, you know what, I'm not even going to answer your question. I'm just going to talk about how much I typically don't like one of them. Yeah, I mean it's obvious that you always have engaged with every one of my points I've ever brought up with with genuine authenticity. I have and and obstinate thousand, bro. I'm just saying, man. She is spectacular in this movie. I think that her and Ben, Stiller's chemistry, as like a normal group pairing of human beings, who are interested in each other, might be one of the best portrayals of regular human romance that I've ever seen on film. Yeah, I think there's a lot to praise with this movie. Obviously, it does have some flaws and we'll get into talking about those but before, Get any further. I have to ask you was this your first time seeing Walter Mitty. Oh, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. You mean no.

3:57 Just just Walter de never seen him before. Oh, yes. I have. I've met him many times. He was on the cover of Life. Oh yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yes. Bob, I had seen The Secret Life of Walter Mitty before at your house. Oh really? Yeah, we were staying with you guys one time. Like I said last week at the end of the episode we won't remember. This first of all, I don't remember you saying at the end of last week and I also don't remember what let alone five years ago. Exactly what. No, you didn't watch it with me. You and Carrie were out and about doing stuff and Haley. And I watch. Oh nice. Nice. Okay. Because you told me to watch it, you're like, oh, you need to watch this. It's really good. And I was like, okay, I'll watch it.

4:38 Well, I'm glad you did. And then this, the same thing happened, five years later, and it has led you back to me again. So, here we are. Five years later at least one more viewing down and it's time for us to move in. Brad explains. This is the part of the podcast where Brad breaks down the plot of the film that he has just seen often for the first time. Brad. Do you think that with 60 seconds here on the clock? You can break down the plot of The Secret Life of Walter. Mitty, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty is about a man named Walter Mitty. Who is a - asset producer something or other. He basically takes film and turns it into pictures for Life Magazine. His mom is getting old his Esther's useless.

5:21 Let's see. What else is important about him. Oh wait nothing, he's boring. They set him up. Kind of like an accountant and he has a very vibrant and Rich thought life. He imagines a lot of different things and he is sent a photo Real by their most famous photographer and one of the clips is missing and it's going to be the cover of the year. It's gonna be the best cover ever and they lose it. So he goes on a journey to find the photographer so that he can find the missing. Lip and he finds himself along the way. Hmm, beautiful, dude, I think that was like, one of the first times where I kind of caught like, the philosophy of the movie and, like, the theme of the movie along with like the actual plot details, you did a good job. I'm very proud of ya.

6:08 That's pretty smooth. So this is a pretty simple movie. So The Secret Life of Walter Mitty is based on a very famous short story, which I remember reading in high school Brad. Did you ever have to read the short story? I'd never heard of it, all right. So it's very famous and of course you'd never heard of it because that's how this podcast works. So I don't know about very famous. It's really like I'm not exaggerating. It's very, very famous. So take it, I don't believe you. Okay, well, it's written by James. Thurber it was written back in the 1940s and it's been interpreted as the story of a guy who's kind of imagining himself in all these situations, even though he's living, A very mundane life and so they borrowed that element of the story and they kind of modernized it with this film here.

6:55 This is actually the second film adaptation of the Walter Mitty Story. The first one was much more faithful to the original short story. I really like what they did with the like the premise of the film Brad and I like, where they go with it and how in the second half of the film. Once he finally does start taking those Adventures for himself, you know, by the end of the movie, somebody even asks him How's the daydreaming going? And he just says, you know, a lot less So lately. And I think that's kind of like the perfect line to summarize. This movie is like, you don't have to wonder what life would be like if you actually go out and live it. Yeah, man. I mean, I picked this movie, it's on my season 5 list. I have a lot of wonderful things to say about it. I guess I just like to hear your initial Impressions about, you know, the themes of the movie or the flow of the movie, wherever you want to go with this.

7:48 Let's let's just start diving in here. I feel like what what Ben Stiller really did? Well, in this movie is it feels like he really honed in on like minor little small things and made sure that they were done well, in this film. Like the, the way the characters interact with one another, the, the way he finds clues that all the little things that that Stiller does as a director here, just feel Really intricate and well done. One of the things I really loved about the movie and I don't think this was necessarily Stiller as a director, but I love that halfway through the movie.

8:31 Kristen Wiig comes out in the middle of green land and sings Major, Tom to Walter Mitty, right? And it's his imagination, he's thinking about her, you know, propelling him off into the vast unknown and it gives them courage to go get on a helicopter being piloted by a drunk man. And in the midst of that, you don't realize it. But that is the last time he Daydreams the entire movie, every single other thing that happens to him is real life. It really happens. And I think there's something about that that for me, it was almost like one of the most perfectly executed flips in a script that I've ever seen. Hmm, you know what I mean?

9:18 Like The idea of this man who Daydreams a lot. And at that point, he'd had a few Adventures, he done a few crazy things, but it was at that point he was like, you know what, I have the courage to do this crazy stuff and he jumps into the ocean and is attacked by sharks and he almost gets hit by a volcano eruption and all this other stuff happens and you don't realize it because all this fantastic stuff is happening, just like it was at the start, but he's not daydreaming anymore. And There's just something about that after the movie. I was like, dang. That was really well, written. Like, like hats off, man. That was so good. You asked me at some point in the early seasons of this podcast, to try to explain what it means for a movie to be well-directed, I think you asked like, what what does a director do?

10:06 What can we credit a director for as opposed to an editor or a writer or whatever? And weirdly enough, I think this is one of those movies that I would probably point to for an example of really clear up. Parent, good directing and Ben. Stiller has directed a number of movies but he's not exactly known. You know like I wouldn't set him next to a Hitchcock or Spielberg and yet I think with this movie he really just said I'm going to make a movie that is yes. Funny and parts. Yes silly and parts but I'm going to put every ounce of Creative Energy that I have into it. It's going to have a very unique but like super cohesive look and aesthetic and style to it and he stuck with it throughout. The entire movie.

10:50 And I think the result of it is a movie that in a lot of ways, Brad is greater than the sum of its parts on paper. Like the acting is very good in this movie but like the acting is probably like, you know, a seven and a half to an 8 out of 10 and the visuals are very breathtaking. But like you put all these things together and it seems like they're going to add up to a movie. That is a seven and a half, there is just something about that extra amount of effort and that extra amount of artistry. That this movie was not like calling out for, but the fact that he gave it that extra amount, I think really kind of pushes this movie over the edge for me, into being something. That is kind of like transcending The Source material, the ice Jace. She moves like a woman.

11:38 I'm Walter Mitty Cheryl melhoff, where have you been testing the limits of the human spirit Like to climb your hair test that out. Perhaps I can contact you possibly to my portrait Alcorn. Poetry Falcon. I like that. You think? If I hit him with a paperclip what do you move? I don't know. Do it. Yeah it feels to me like this movie is like basically Ben Stiller directing a reflection of who he he wants himself to be seen as the style of directing the style of how they captured images in this movie, the style of how his relationship with Kristen wigs character progresses.

12:34 It almost feels like all of those things, riff are reflected in the character of Walter Mitty. He's not showy, he's not out to draw attention to himself. He's not out to, you know, be the big brash. You know, I'm going to take over the world kind of guy. He's just and every man who puts his head down goes to work cares about the people in his life. He cares about his co-workers a lot. He's interested in this cute girl, he really cares for his mom. Well like I love the small things of like every time they show Ben, Stiller basically pumping out a large check for his mom's retirement home. His sister gives him a really cheap meaningless Alice object, right?

13:20 Like there's this there's this essence of Like Walter. Mitty is the man who just does what he needs to do because he's a responsible human being and I feel like this movie, reflects that attitude and every single thing it just goes about doing its job quietly and with Excellence. Yeah I'm well I could not have said it any better myself. That was really some better at this than you really well done. Well let's talk about And still are a little bit then and we've kind of hinted at him as director, but let's talk about him as actor. Ben Stiller's one of those guys that I feel like in the last five or so years, we have kind of forgotten about how wonderful he is and how brilliant he is.

14:03 And if you kind of just plot out the 21st century so far in terms of, you know, film history, I mean even like a Will Ferrell hasn't quite had the longevity of Ben Stiller. He started off this Century with Meet the Parents, which is one of the the most successful comedies of all time and then Meet the Fockers, like, went way far above and beyond that at the box office, he directs Zoolander. He directs this movie, he directs Tropic Thunder. Like he has truly been a fixture of American Comedy for years and years and years stretching, you know, as far back as the late 80s, early 90s. But I don't think we often kind of frame him as potentially, the most important figure in 21st century comedy because Will Ferrell, went on a run, That I think a lot of people will just remember forever with Anchorman and Talladega Nights and all those films, Adam Sandler, has had really great longevity and and Ben Stiller doesn't quite have the like bombastic nature of either of those two other guys I just mentioned and yet I feel like we've let him kind of fly under the radar because of that and you get him in a movie like this and you're just reminded like his comic timing is absolutely impeccable. He's just perfect in some of these scenes where R. He is very dryly giving you the punchline, but then also dramatically he really has the chops, man. I thought that he was just excellent in this movie. Yeah, honestly he I'm really glad you brought up Adam Sandler because I feel like Ben Stiller

15:36 is Adam Sandler without the poop humor and and I mean that in a very good way. You do you mean like, it kind of helps that I think they look a little bit alike There's definitely a moment in this movie when, when he is arguing with the two guides that he hired and he's got that red, you know, hiking jacket on and it's over his head he's got the glasses on I was like oh they got a cameo with Adam Sandler in here like a hundred percent. I like I was convinced that that was not Ben Stiller anymore as Adam Sandler. But I think that with Ben Stiller, what you have in this movie is a performance. That once again, it just doesn't call attention to itself and that's what calls attention to it, and makes it so daggone good.

16:25 He's not trying to be showy. He uses the little nuances of the face of the eyes to really draw you into his character. Because, in all reality, he's really boring. He's a, he's a boring guy. That doesn't have the courage to ask a girl out in person. And he still keeps a check book which I guarantee you if we show this to our Our kids and 10 years, they're going to be like, why is he writing? What is he writing? What is right? Why is he putting somebody is writing? Yeah that's actually probably what it's gonna be but like I think that's the beauty of his character is that he doesn't have to do anything showy to draw you in as a viewer.

17:10 He just is. And he's unique. And he's interesting. And I don't know, I think about I don't remember where this quote comes from, but basically the most important asset that any Studio has any director has anything is a, is an actor's face and like though, that is the window into whether or not somebody is a good actor is if you are engaged with them, even when they're not like gunning down enemies in an action movie or, you know, doing poop humor and and in comedy movie These things like that. It's stuff like this. Where you go? Oh no. Like Ben, Stiller can do the comedy and he's really funny but he's also just a really good actor. So I was on the cultural Cesspool that is Twitter the other day and you nailed it.

18:02 And there was a critic on there that had just re-watched Walter Mitty. And he was talking about how much he loved that movie, and how bummed he was. That more critics didn't get behind it. And I have to agree because I went and looked at the, the Metacritic score on this afterwards and I think it's like a 49 or something, it was really low. I was really shocked at that. This movie just works. I mean like it does exactly what it sets out to do and I think it really over achieves is the word that I've been looking for this movie just goes above and beyond. I think what anybody expected or even asked of it. And that kind of bums me out because I feel like Ben Stiller has some really excellent like directorial, impulses, and I feel like if this movie had been a little bit better received, we might have seen him kind of pursue those a little bit more and instead Like this movie comes out, doesn't do super well, the critics don't like it and then he goes and makes Zoolander 2 which is just an awful awful and I love Zoolander. But but that movie is terrible and it really just kind of becomes a what-if for me because I think Ben Stiller could have leaned into this side of himself, both as a director and as a performer.

19:09 If this had been a little bit better received, this is just maybe it's just my perception but you can confirm it for me or not do In general, just dislike. SNL alums when they move into Hallelujah. I don't know. That there's any Rhyme or Reason to it like some movies that you think are just not going to get good reviews at all. Just do. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that like these people are seeing 300-plus movies a year and maybe they're still pissed off at the MCU movie. They had to watch earlier in the day and they don't they're dreading writing that long essay and then this hits them at a bad time. You know what I mean? Like there's so many variables. Like if this had opened in April instead of September or whatever the hell it opened like what would it have caught people in a different phase? And I thought about that too.

19:55 Like, I've been trying to put together, my own kind of like top 10 list of 20 21 and I think the most like important impactful thing I saw in 21 was the Bo Burnham special called inside which has just haunted me for months and months. But at this point in my life like almost 12 months later after seeing that that really dealt with like the Russian in the paranoia of the pandemic and I just went and saw the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie last week. Licorice pizza. And that was the most. Like, just I was like, grinning at the screen for two hours. I was so happy. It was just a joyous movie and I'm like, all right. Well, one of them had a bigger impact on me, but I don't know that I want that to be the movie that I look back and that it defines the year for me. Do you know what I'm saying?

20:43 And so maybe this movie just caught people at the wrong time. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know why. I literally have never once had a movie, catch me at the wrong time. I've never had my emotions in the way when I reviewed a movie for the podcast. So I think they're just I know you've never ever not given a movie. A chance. I have eternally given movies a chance. All right. So we have already talked about Kristen Wiig a little bit. Let's let's kind of go down the the cast list here. Everybody else, is kind of a true supporting player. You've Shirley MacLaine showing up as his mob. You've got Kathryn Hahn in kind of a thankless role as his sister.

21:23 You've got Sean Penn making a great extended Cameo as Sean O'Connell the photographer. You've got Adam Scott from Parks and Rec showing up as the The Evil Nemesis of Walter bearded the year. Yeah, yeah. Who do you want to talk about first bread? Can we, can we talk about Adam Scott's beard for a minute? Yeah, just the beard though. Just the beard Bob. I don't know it. Like, I genuinely this. Time through. I remember the first time through thinking like, oh, that's just a bad costume. Like, who did that this time through? I was like, did they meet it intentionally? Because like by the end of the film Walter comes back from his journey and his one co-worker or former co-workers that are all getting fired is like why do you look rugged?

22:06 And he's got like this little stubble and right off and do you like, am I just searching too deep or do you think there was like yeah he has to like fake this beard. Like he probably pays $500. Hours for his haircut and beard to be trimmed this way. But Walter like earned it in the Himalayas. Well, that might be. I never thought about it that deeply. I do think the fake beard is, is a, the worst fake piece of hair I've ever seen ever ever and land. It has to be intentional like this movie cost a lot of money to make. I can't imagine that they because the thing is like, when you, when you die something pitch black, it is a color of black that human hair cannot actually. Eve, exact.

22:48 And like, even though Adam Scott has dark hair like the beard is just significantly darker than his actual air and it's the fact that it is so perfectly manicured, like it, it almost looks like it was cgi'd onto his face and pose maybe it's not real. And and Walter's just imagining him with a beard. Oh, that's a new Theory. Yeah, well at the very least we've decided, That the beard is the worst character in the movie. I agree with that. Wholeheartedly Shirley MacLaine, though. Wonderful. Let's go. Do you under fight? Like, what a perfect supporting performance.

23:31 I was just Enchanted by her every time she was on screen. So there's a huge plot point in the movie where you find out. Basically, the thing that sets the movie into motion is that Walter works at Life magazine. And he develops photos, especially for this very famous photographer. They find out that it is going to be the last issue ever of Life magazine in physical form, and the photographer sends along a very prized - for Walter to process and when they go to like, you know, they take out the whole roll of film and all the negatives to develop and it's not there. And it sends Walter on this journey, to find this photographer recover this - and you find out, basically the end of the movie, Walter had it the whole time and it was in a wallet, which we'll talk about that scene.

24:17 But that scene with Sean Penn is really funny and I liked it a lot. Yeah. Walter has discarded this wallet at some point because he's so frustrated about his life and his choices. And then you have, you know, the reveal at the end that the Mom, Shirley MacLaine rescued the wallet out of the garbage and Brad, I don't think you can deliver those few lines she has in that scene where she says, like I always save all your knickknacks and there is just such a level of like Unbridled love between mother and son in that scene that she conveys wordless lie and Stiller conveys, wordless lie and it was just such a touching moment that I don't even know if it was meant to be that touching in the script but like, like it legitimately got me a little bit choked up because those two actors just nailed that little moment.

25:08 Yeah, I was going to say, I think that's probably the most poorly written line in the movie like that. There is for some reason that just felt so awkward to me, like, yeah, I always save your knickknacks and and it feels like forced because earlier she has a line where she talks about. Oh, that's my Walter box and and that's where I keep all my Walter things. And it feels like one of those kind of forced like we had to write that first line in order to make sense of why she keeps his wallet. But all of that just fell away when I watched Ben, Stiller, look at his mom. Gratitude for the fact that she's being a mom.

25:49 Yep, it just it just all fell away. I didn't care about any of that. I was like, yeah, we're good. Mom does keep knickknacks. I'm with you man. And like again, these are the little things that I think helped this movie kind of Click into Focus because even though like on its surface, it has a very clear message which is like go out and live instead of thinking about it. When I started thinking about like, all right, what's beneath? The surface, like, what is this movie really about? I was kind of struggling because I think sometimes it can send mixed messages and sometimes I'm just looking deeper than I need to look, let's be honest. But I think in moments like that, this movie really kind of lasers in on what it's trying to say. She saves all his knickknacks because it's a way of demonstrating that like, yes, it's worth preserving things in life, there are things worth remembering and you shouldn't throw them away, and you shouldn't move past them. And like, Walters mom saves all.

26:46 Junk. Because she's a mom, but it's also like one more lesson that Walters learning along the way about, like, what it really means to live life. And it's that, yeah, we need to collect these memories for ourselves and I just I don't think that would have been conveyed if you were just reading the script on the page and it's just the performance of those. Two actors that make that just a really special scene for me. Well and the choice to not. Look at the - right like at the end. His coworker asks him like like, what was Jean. It was the - and he goes, I didn't look at it and you know, the guy is like, oh, you're crazy. I don't understand you but like the journey to get, the - is what he needed to collect.

27:29 Not these actual - itself. And so like that, that lesson is just under laid so many different times, but it's never, it's never forced. It's never shoved in the audience's face. I, you've talked about this before, it's so frustrating when a director Assumes that his audience is stupid right and this movie does not do that. They don't shove it in your face. They don't force you to think about what the deep meaning or they don't just tell you what, the deep meaning of the movie is they let you suss it out for yourself and it's not very far under the surface. It's not like it's hard to figure out but it's not right in your face and I think still does a really great job as an actor and as a director Allowing the audience to go on the journey with him to find the meaning that the movie is trying to sell you.

28:24 All right, babe, I think we're in a really good spot right now. The, I'm excited to keep talking about this movie because it's just man, if Chef was a feel-good movie, then this is a feel great movie. Like, I came out of this just so freaking happy, but let's continue our happiness with a review of Glenlivet 12. What do you say? Let's get to it. Alright, so today we are checking out the Glenlivet 12-year single malt scotch whiskey. This is one of the most famous brands of scotch you know in the world over super historic. If I'm being honest. Brad. I have really regretted the fact that we did not pair this up initially with our very first preview episode Anchorman, because this is Ron burgundy's Scotch of choice, he orders two fingers of Glenlivet when he when he goes into the bar.

29:15 Yeah, Yeah, thinking about it ever since man. But, you know, we're close enough here with Ben Stiller movie. I guess. Well, we're kind of close because, you know, they're both men and they're similar age and they act sent Ben Stiller was in Anchorman. So I know, man, I am excited for this. I will say that in the, in the many, many jobs that I've worked, I used to be. Wedding coordinator help weddings go smoothly. And at one of those weddings they had Glenlivet 12 double oaked and I was a lot of try, a few shots of it and I remember thinking it was one of the first scotches I ever had and I was like man I think Scott really has a lot to offer this is good stuff so this is one that I've honestly been quietly anticipating so this is a space side single malt.

30:13 We've had a couple space sides on the show before note. Tably a burl. Our and I think one thing that that at least I have noted about them because Brad, I think you'd like them a little more than me is that they're just very mild. They're really inoffensive. You're not going to get tons of Pete on top of something from this region, at least, typically, this is clocking in at 40% ABV or 80 proof. So, it is, I mean, it's just a really light whiskey, but this is the first time we've had an 80 proof in. It's been a while agent. This is a guy's like a lot of really? Yeah, really long time. So I'm actually trying it live. The show Brad, you've already taken notes so while I give this a nose and a sip, can you give us your scores for both of those categories?

30:53 Yeah, the nose for me was this like Creamsicle orange almost heavy on the orange side. With a little bit of Honey, a little bit of vanilla I really, really love this like soft. Gentle creamy knows, I will give it an eight and a half on the nose and then the taste jumped into there's Like a candied, orange. But then it was a little bit nutty. I got to, like, soft hint of cinnamon on there. I really like the taste as well. I'll give it an 8 out of 10. So an eight and a half on the nose. Eight out of ten on the palate. Yeah, I'm with you, man. There's a lot of citrus fruit on this. I don't know if it's quite orange for me, but it's definitely in that family.

31:36 You're totally right. I got a little bit of pear on the nose as well. When it comes to The Taste, I got like some apricot as well, which was really, really nice. And I'm not used to that. I think on the nose, it's just, it's super Pleasant. There's not much more to say, there's not a strong scent of like multi-. It really does kind of stay in that fruity area. I think I'll give it a seven and a half on the nose on The Taste. It's really beautiful. Like all that creaminess you were talking about comes out. It starts out fruity it kind of goes into like a like a really heavy cream kind of flavor and then on the back end you're right. It's like black coffee, with a couple dashes of cinnamon on top. Really. Ali really nice. I like this a lot especially at 80 proof. This doesn't seem like a watered-down experience that the mouthfeel is not super thin.

32:25 The alcohol has just enough of a tingle to let you know. It's there. I think this is really nice on the pallet Brad. So I think I'm going to give it a 9 out of 10 on the palate as I get into the finish, it has just the tiniest hint of like, I don't know. I didn't even want to call it a sour finish that there's just a little hint of something there. But overall, It's it's a little bit, okey there's a lot of orange for me that has persisted through the entire experience. But overall, I think what I love most about the finish, I feel like I just ate like a spoonful of honey and there's just this nice soft honey, presence on my, on my tongue, in my throat, as I finish, I really like the finish a lot. I'm going to jump back up to an eight and a half. Yeah I'm pretty much right there with you. I think I'm going to give it an eight and a half even though I kind of only think it's an eight but that's because I want to bump up.

33:15 Up my seven and a half. No score to 1/8 so this will help balance it out nicely. You're right. There is something right there on the very end. That's like a shout of a cigarette tray. Like there's just this really burnt kind of a she thing going on that almost turns the experience a little bit bitter, but I think ultimately like what you're left with are those sweeter lighter notes so I'm going to give it an eight and a half on the nose on balance bread. At this, is a really well-balanced whiskey. I can't think of a lot of things that I would. Get on except for maybe that one. Kind of off note in the finish. I guess, I'll give it an eight and a half again on balance. Yeah, dude, I'm with you, man. That like there's nothing about this whiskey that's like, out of this world but there's absolutely nothing about it.

34:01 That's poorly done. So I'm with you, dude. Eight and a half. It's just a really solid drinking experience. And then when we jump into value, Bob this bottle of whiskey will set you back in the state of Ohio. Dollars. And if you really love it, you can jump up to a whole liter for only $10 more $55 and you got a leader, this bad boy. All right. So that that's really not bad at all. Brad. What are you thinking for your value score? I mean I think this is one of one of the better values in a single malt that you can really grab. I'll give it an 8 out of 10 on the value like it's not perfect this isn't my favorite Scotch out there.

34:43 I really I think I might like a bird our a little More overall, but this is really good stuff and 45 bucks. Go get yourself some come on. Yeah, I think I'll give it an eight and a half as well. This is definitely towards the top of the Heap. When it comes to Affordable single malts, we're actually starting four consecutive weeks of Glenlivet products here, and that's because we got ourselves this nice little sample pack of for Glenlivet. So they're 50 ml samples of the, 12-year the founders reserve, the Ian reserve and the 14 year and in the state of Ohio that for pack costs 999. So we had essentially, I think we split my sample into two. So Brad, we just had a dollar twenty-five is worth of whiskey and if that's the criteria for the value score than this is like a 14 out of 10 because I will have darn good dollar 25. We just spent, I think, you know, for the price of a 750 milliliter bottle.

35:43 I'm going to go eight and a half, but I will say, if you can find Glenlivet sampler. Please get that because it is a really, really great value. Yeah. That brings my total score out to a 41.5 out of 50. I'm going to 42 out of 50. So that is taking us to a 41-point 75 or an eighty three point five out of a hundred. This is kind of approaching the upper reaches of our scores and I think it's because it's such an affordable bottle. Yeah. The the quality of the juice inside this 45 dollar single malt speyside is almost unmatched. So go out.

36:23 Get yourself some Glenlivet 12 immediately. It is honestly Bob right now, it doesn't, it doesn't try too hard. It doesn't, it's not too showy. It's not putting itself out there thinking. It's more than it is. It's just almost exactly like the movie. We're watching the vector midi of Whiskey's. It's the Walter Mitty of Whiskey's whiskey midi right here. Whiskey midi. All right man. Let's get back into talking about the movie. What do you say? Let's have at it, man. I'm excited. All right. That was Glenlivet 12-year a whiskey that we really really liked Brad. Before we left for the break, we kind of talked about Sean Penn and his extended Cameo here as Sean, O'Connell the photographer man.

37:08 Oh man, is Sean Penn. Like he just comes off the bench and hits 18 three-pointers in a row like that, the entire sequence of Ben Stiller encountering him on that Mountainside, and them sharing that little moment. And then going to play soccer, man, Sean Penn In is such a good actor. I don't know if you guys needed to know that but Academy Award winner Sean Penn actually a good actor. Yeah, I think there's a reality where I actually don't know if I like Sean Penn as an actor primarily because I've not really seen many of his films. I get that. You know, and you like him here though is the real question. I do like him. I think he plays a small enough role that he's not overwhelming.

37:50 Yeah, you get that one, you know, fun. But really the ones. Scene with him where they're they're checking out the snow leopard and he kind of imparts the wisdom of the movie of, like, sometimes you don't need to take the picture sometimes, just the journey to get there is, is worth more than what the picture is worth. And yeah, there's like something nice about that scene, but I don't know if he added like a ton of the movie. I think you could have replaced him with, with other actors, but I thought it was I thought he was solid good. When are you gonna take it? sometimes, I don't if I like a moment. Made me personally, I don't like to have the distraction the Kim. Just want to stay in it.

38:51 Stand up. Yeah, right there. Right here. I think when you have a moment like this, when you have the like surprise celebrity Cameo, there's a lot of ways that could go and I think Sean Penn is one of those guys who likes to play understated sometimes and you know, he'd like, I like that. He's very restrained here because I think you could slide a number of very famous people into this role, but it would ultimately take away from the movie. Like, if you put George Clooney in here, he's so disarmingly, you know, ride and That it wouldn't fit with what this character is supposed to be.

39:33 You could not put a Tom Hanks in this role even though he could very well acted like it's just the the tone and the vibe that those kind of guys bring to the table, I think really could take away from it here. And Sean Penn does kind of have that like he has the look and feel of a guy who's traveled, the world and is speaking from a place of wisdom. And I think he plays that really, really well. Yeah, these got that hermit photographer vibe that is nails. I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind seeing like a Tommy Lee Jones in this role just as a guy who's, like really pissed and annoyed that Walter Mitty showed up, you know what I mean? Yeah. Just given him tons of get the F out of my shot and then he just does the whole monologue from no country.

40:16 And then that's the end of the movie directed by the Coen Brothers. All right, man, I think that we have discussed this movie probably enough. At this point, I love this movie a lot. Is it a perfect movie know? And I think I've said that twice and the reason primarily that I say that is I think that some of Walters Flights of Fancy, they get their point across and then they go on for like another two minutes longer than they need to go. And there's one in particular, it's the one where, where he Stretch Armstrong, it's the one where? No, not even that one summer. He imagines that he has Benjamin Button disorder and, and the joke is like, haven't seen the movie yet, but like that, That little vignette feels like a clip from any other movie, Ben Stiller has ever done. It's very silly, it's very over-the-top. And it really every time I watch this movie, they go so far into the future, where he's dying of Benjamin Button disorder. And it's like, it just pulls me out of what this movie is trying to do.

41:20 And I honestly think like if you had just not put that one gag in the movie, my score on this movie would be like at least a half Point higher, you know. In like I really want to give this movie a 9 because I love it a lot. I'm kind of leaning towards an eight and a half and I hate to say it but I think it's because there are still a few moments in this movie where man you really could have had me saying this was like an Alzheimer and instead it's just like a very, very good film, that kind of punches above its weight class for me. So I'm going to give it an eight and a half out of ten. Yeah, I think that's a fair score. Bob. I'm going to sum up all my Nations with this movie, in just a simple way, it has kind of a Family Guy syndrome to it, like there's a lot of jokes in the movie.

42:12 There's even some of the serious stuff that they do. That just lingers a little too long. It goes a little too far and that's like Family Guys entire premise, right? Like the whole idea of the show is, let's just go a little too far with everything, you know, they're not South They're not going just wildly out of bounds and just disgusting ways usually but Family Guy has that. That's like they're stick. That's what they do. They go a little too far with everything and it's mostly pretty amusing. This movie does that with a lot of different things. Whether it's his his Flights of Fancy, or the the awkward humor, sometimes, or even when they're trying to be serious. It just it just lasts a little bit too long. Long as watching this, with my friend Michael and the the scene that I mentioned earlier where he looks like Adam Sandler, they literally spend about 45 to 60 seconds of screen time. Like just just stick you lating back and forth about like it's almost like a Monty Python skit like like no, no you're going, but I but I'm staying and then they're like, oh no. So we take leave the sun here until he leaves and you're like no no.

43:27 Let me re explain it. It's like, it's funny. It's fine, but it goes on too long and so, yeah, I'm with you, dude. I think that this is a just fantastically Pleasant fun movie to watch. It's pleasing to the eye to the ear like that. Like, I really like the soundtrack that they use, for this movie, the songs that they insert, I really enjoy Kristen Wiig and how she. And, and Ben Stiller just portray a really fun relaxed romance. That doesn't die. Dominate the movie. There's a lot to love about this movie. I think, honestly, Bob this is the perfect whiskey and movie pairing of 40 out of 50 is pretty much an 8 out of 10, so I'm going to give this an 8 out of 10 Bob.

44:13 All right, there you have it. We have a shout-out to an eight point two five out of ten. I kind of do almost want to, but mine up to a nine. Just so that the average score is a little higher because I think when I look at this movie, they means more to me and I think it really is about. Filmed in an 82 out of 100, but let's let our audience decide. Have you guys seen Walter Mitty? If so, what do you think of it? Is it closer to a nine or is it closer to a 2? Who knows what kind of answer we're going to get, but you can tell us on our social media accounts on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram at film whiskey. Or if you want, you can join the conversation directly with us on a daily basis.

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45:38 And then a really bad reboot. The first one is called The Bourne Identity. The Matt Damon finds a man. I haven't Brett. I'm telling you, I haven't seen the first one in years and years so I'm really excited for that. But until then I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and we'll see you next time.