Season 9 Bracket Challenge, Part 1: Round of 32

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On today's Film and Whiskey,
it's bracket time, the most

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wonderful time of the year.
We are taking our 32 movies and

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whittling them down to the final
eight in this episode.

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And we're trying a new whiskey
from West Fork.

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That's all ahead on Film and
Whiskey.

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Well, hey everybody, welcome
into the Film and Whiskey

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podcast.
I'm Bob Book.

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I'm Brad G.
Brad, do you know what time it

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is?
Oh baby it is bracket episodes.

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I am super pumped man.
Listen, I only review movies to

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get to the bracket episode.
If we could have a whole podcast

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that was just called Bracket
Time and we just did brackets

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every week, actually we should
do that.

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We TA patent pending bracket
time.

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Yeah, bracket time with Bob and
Brad.

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Man, I love it dude.
So folks, if you are new to film

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and whiskey, first of all
welcome into the show.

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Typically what we do is we take
a movie, a classic film and we

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review it often.
Brad is seeing that film for the

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first time.
At the end of each episode we

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give that movie a final score
and at the end of our 32 episode

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season, we take all of those
movies and based on our scores,

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we put them into a 32 seed
bracket and we determine what

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movie is the winner of our
current season.

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Brad, tell the folks a little
bit about this current season

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because it was different than
all the seasons we've done in

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the past.
Yeah, we have been going through

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to figure out what exactly makes
a movie a modern classic.

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We we are considering movies of
the last now 21 years.

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It was the last 20 years when we
started, you know, last year and

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basically saying here are movies
that hit one of four categories.

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The four categories being was it
nominated for best picture?

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Was it, did it make over 100
million at the domestic box

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office?
Is it in the letterbox top 250

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or the IMDb top 250?
And you know, though we figured

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even if it hits one of those
categories, it it clearly has

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been popular enough to warrant
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that we should give it.
So here we are.

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We have reviewed 32 movies.
We probably should have kept

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track of how many we said yes to
on the modern classic front.

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It's it's all in the can, man,
or not in the can, but it's in

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the pipeline, Brad.
We're going to do an episode in

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the offseason where we revisit
all these modern masterpieces

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and we decide what the 21st
century Canon really is on film

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and whiskey.
So we'll get there, man.

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Have I done that work yet?
Absolutely not Heck no.

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Am I developing an episode in
real time?

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I absolutely am for sure.
But folks, for for this episode,

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the way the bracket works at the
like I said, at the end of every

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episode, we give a numerical
score.

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We take those average scores and
then we have a pretty well

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ranked system.
But you know, after watching 32

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movies, after spending well over
half a year on this season, you

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kind of look back at some of the
movies and you think, yeah,

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maybe I gave that A9 instead of
a 9 1/2.

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But I think ultimately I like
that movie better than the 9

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1/2.
So Brad and I just kind of take

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the list of films independent of
our initial scores, and we just

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rank them based on what our
heart tells us.

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You know, you have to balance
head and heart, Brad.

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And we try to do that here on
film and whiskey.

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And so Brad comes up with his
heart list, I come up with my

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heart list, and then we have our
numerical scores from the

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episodes.
We average all of those

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together.
And then we come out with this

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nice ranked tiered seated system
that we have, which always

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inevitably makes for some crazy,
crazy matchups in the bracket.

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Brad.
Yeah, it, it seems like every

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year there is one or two
matchups usually in the second

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round where you're like, this is
a #8 versus like, you know, I

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don't know, a 14 or something.
And and yet one of us is like

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really standing hard for the
number 14 seed and you just, you

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never know what's going to
happen, man.

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Yeah, 100%.
Now when we get into these

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matchups, we're going to go
through this entire bracket.

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If Brad and I agree which movie
is better, then it's great.

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Our our friendship remains and
we are not at each other's

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throats.
That movie moves on to the next

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round.
If we are at a loggerheads here,

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Brad, we we have to flip a coin
and we call that coin the Coin

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of Destiny.
Now, in years past, Brad has

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controlled the coin of destiny
and I am always more than a bit

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skeptical of his process, but he
swears by it.

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You flipped a few times here or
there.

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He says my methods get results.
Those results usually favor

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Brad.
But you know, what are you going

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to do?
I I still want to say the

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integrity of the game is far
more important to me than any

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individual victory or loss on my
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You say that and then you know,
we watched all these Star Wars

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movies and I know.
I know the evil that's in your

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heart.
I know how compelled you were by

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the tragedy of Darth Plagueis
the Wise.

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Can we just, can we watch Rise
of Skywalker and just crap all

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over it sometimes?
Do a bad movie bonus, Yeah.

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I I really just see the movie.
Yeah, that's a good idea.

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All right, before we get into
the bracket, I do want to say

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this bracket is available for
you to follow along with.

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What we really love is when
people download our bracket from

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our site film whiskey.com.
Fill out your own bracket.

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Let us know what movie from this
list of 32 would be your

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champion.
You can hashtag us.

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You can at us on social media.
Let us know who your champion

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is.
Again, our website

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isfilmwhiskey.com.
You will see the Season 9

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bracket right up top in the
banner.

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Now this is the film and whiskey
podcast.

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So in addition to our bracket,
we are going to be reviewing

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some whiskey out of the West
Fork Whiskey Company, which is

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in Indianapolis, Indiana, as my
mother-in-law calls it

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Indianapolis.
And so we're going to be

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drinking their bottled and bond
weeded.

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And then two expressions from
another brand that they have the

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label, another label that's a
better way, the old Hammer.

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I'm really excited to drink
these today, Bob.

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I am too, Brad.
Today we're going to focus just

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on this West Fork whiskey, the
bottled and bond weeded.

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And then on Part 2 of the
bracket, we'll dive into both of

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those old hammers.
Here's what the deal is, folks,

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if you are a distillery out
there, we are not a pay to play

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podcast.
We don't ask for money and we

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certainly don't give reviews for
money.

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But I will say, if you send Brad
and I each three full bottles of

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whiskey as opposed to like 11
tiny sample, we will absolutely

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give your brand prime exposure
on the bracket episodes.

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So I want to say thank you West
Fork Whiskey for not being

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stingy.
We love a good non stingy brand.

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Yeah, scratch my back, Bob.
You know what I'll do?

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I'll drink your whiskey.
That's how that expression goes,

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right?
Dude, I am ready for this.

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Let's get into the first round
of our bracket episode.

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Yeah, Brad, I'm excited to dive
into, man, why don't we do this

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as we introduce our brackets?
You know, it's broken up into

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quadrants like any good bracket
is.

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And typically Brad likes to name
the quadrants based on just

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whatever's on his mind that day.
They never, ever associate with

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anything that actually came out
of our season.

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So Brad, you know, I just
realized the day that we're

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recording this, we're a couple
weeks ahead.

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I sent you just now a list of
six different celebrities,

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people that have birthdays
today.

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Should we name our quadrants
after these random happy

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birthdays?
We should.

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I think it's a wonderful idea.
Today is May the 14th, and with

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it being that day, I'm going to
start us off.

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We're going to be in the George
Lucas bracket.

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George Lucas, best known for the
film American Graffiti and

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nothing else.
He is celebrating his 81st

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birthday today.
Happy birthday Georgie boy.

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You you said American Graffiti.
You seem to forget about THX

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113.
Eight.

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I did, you know, I did forget
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Slightly less popular than
American Graffiti, but still a

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huge impact on cinema.
Huge, huge Brad.

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And you know, that's that's
befitting of this quadrant that

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we're in the Lucas quadrant.
Why don't we go ahead and start

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with our first overall match up
here featuring our top seed, the

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movie Whiplash, right, I don't
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Whiplash.
I don't think I would have

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picked Whiplash as the number
one seed if you just asked me to

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name what movie would be #1 But
it's one of those films that's

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like, it's so perfectly made
that even though I don't think

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it was either one of our actual
number one films that still got

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the highest overall point total
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Yeah, and it makes sense dude.
The the like this movie hits on

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so many different cylinders.
The performances are like spot

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on pitch perfect.
And it asks like a really

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interesting question in a world
where like hustle culture is a

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thing, this movie is asking
like, is it all worth it?

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What, what are you willing to
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And I, and I think that's a
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is kind of struggling with.
So, you know Whiplash.

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Phenomenal movie.
It's going up against the number

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32 overall seed Joker now.
Before the DC fanboys come for

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us, I have to say I liked Joker
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than I remembered liking it.
And I don't think any movie in

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our ranking got lower than like
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We have a lot of good movies
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Joker just got the lowest score.
And you know what, Brad?

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I don't really know that there's
a lot of conversation to happen

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here about this match up.
Whiplash is quite simply, a

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better movie than Joker.
I really wish that Joaquin

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Phoenix when he's on the tram
with, with the the Bros, the

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finance Bros, I really just wish
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slapped them in the face and was
like, not quite my time. 123123

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All right, Whiplash is moving on
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Let's get into the real meat
here, Brad.

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We're looking at the number 16
overall seed, Ratatouille, up

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against the number 17 seed,
Spotlight.

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Boy oh boy, could we have picked
2 movies that are more

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thematically different than
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I'm curious to hear, Brad, what
you thought of of both of these

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movies, because as I recall,
Ratatouille was a little further

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down your heart list than I
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Yeah, I ratatouille.
I did not see it when it came

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out.
It it wasn't like a highlight of

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the Pixar experience for me.
I still really like this movie

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like it.
It is still a solid Pixar film,

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which makes it better than like
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Spotlight I really really
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It was well made.
The pacing was really well done.

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I this was one of the hardest
matchups for me, not even

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thematically, because obviously
there's like, we should probably

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make the movie about exposing
child predators, move on.

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That's probably a good thing to
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But I didn't do that, Bob.
I chose Ratatouille.

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I did too.
And it's it's hard because I

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think in that episode we said
spotlight is kind of hitting the

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ceiling of what this kind of
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And that's like a really
commendable thing.

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But it's like a perfectly 8 1/2
movie.

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And I think Ratatouille is kind
of like a movie that that might

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have an overinflated reputation
now, but it's still just like,

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even with flaws, at least a nine
for me.

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So Ratatouille is moving on for
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And that takes us to our next
match up, the number nine

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overall seed, 1917 up against
the number 24 seed.

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Her thoughts, Brad.
This was a harder match up for

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me than I thought, you know, a
15 spot difference would give

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us.
I enjoyed her.

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It made me think it was
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I think Joaquin Phoenix is
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I think our girl Scar Jo is
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Like what a great voice
performance from her.

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At the end of the day, like 1917
is such a grand, ambitious

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movie.
I had to move it on.

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I don't know, man, Like what?
Was there any qualms in your

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heart about moving 1917 on, or
did you want her to go further?

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I mean, I remember liking her a
lot when I saw it when I was 23

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or whatever.
And I think it played better in

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the movie theater because it is
a slow movie.

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And I think sometimes when
you're like in a theater and

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kind of forced to reckon with a
movie on its own terms and don't

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have the distractions, it works
better.

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I found it to be a little slow
this time.

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Like I found it to be quite
boring at parts and that sucked

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because I like what the movie
does overall, I just think 1917

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is better.
And so, you know, the that's the

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third favorite in a row to move
on to the round of 16.

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And that takes us to our last
match up in the Lucas Quadrant,

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the number 8 overall seed La La
Land up against the number 25

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seed.
The Help.

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I do not imagine that this is a
hard decision for you, Brad.

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It was a much harder decision
for me.

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Oh.
Get out of here dude.

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I like the.
Help.

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I know that it's problematic.
It's good movie, and Viola Davis

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is incredible.
The The hell is this year's

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Green Book?
Yeah, I I mean, that's 100% what

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it is.
But they're both good movies.

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I don't care what anybody says.
No, I'm I'm with you.

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I like the help.
It's no La La Land I like.

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Again, I think La La Land is a
movie that for some people it's

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like this is a masterpiece and
for me it's like it is reaching

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for masterpiece.
And I just don't think we make

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human beings like this anymore.
Like Ryan Gosling is never going

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to be Gene Kelly or Donald
O'Connor or you know, And so I

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think the like the fact that it,
it can't quite hit those heights

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for me.
Some days I'm like La La Land's

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a nine.
And other days I look at La La

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Land and I'm like, it's a 7.
And so I will tell you straight

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up my first draft of my bracket,
I moved on the help.

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I'm not going to do that today.
I'm going to put La La Land

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here.
But I, I do think it's going to

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kind of meet a buzz saw for me
in 1917 in the next round.

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Yeah, that that's pretty wild to
me, Bob, because at the end of

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the day, like, you are correct,
we don't make Gene Kelly and

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Fred Astaire's anymore like
that.

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Like Ginger Rogers just isn't
coming out of nowhere to be the

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greatest dancer of the
generation.

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It's not going to happen.
Which means if you're going to

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make a musical, you have to make
it about the story and about the

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human experience.
And, and I think that's why La

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La Land sticks out for me.
So we we can have that argument

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next round.
I'm just letting you know La La

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Land is a perfect modern.
Did you give it a?

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10 If you didn't give it a 10,
you gave it a nine and a half.

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I know how much you love that
movie.

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I'm.
Pretty positive I gave it a 10.

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Yeah, I'm not.
I'm.

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Just not there, man.
But you know what?

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It's good enough to move on to
the round of 16, and that gives

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us our first four entries in the
round of 16.

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Whiplash, Ratatouille 1917 and
La La Land. 4.

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Damn good movies, if I may say
so myself.

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Brad, dude.
I'm not going to lie, I was

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looking at our let's see, it's
32168.

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My top eight could be winners of
just about any season.

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This was the hardest Elite Eight
I think I've ever had.

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All right, well, we're going
down to the next bracket.

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If you're following along, it's
the bottom left bracket which we

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are naming what.
That's up to you, Bob.

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I I named the Lucas Quadrant.
Where are you at?

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Well, we are wishing
celebrities.

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We're wishing.
A happy 56th birthday to Cate

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Blanchett today, one of my
favorite actresses.

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So we're going to be down here
in the Blanchett bracket, Brad,

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and we're looking at the number
four overall seed Parasite up

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against the number 29 seed Ford
V Ferrari.

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Now, I will say this, I, I've
said it many times on the

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podcast, Brad, Parasite is a
movie that has been forever

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spoiled for me because of my
awful viewing experience the

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first time.
I I do think that if it comes

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down to like a 1917 versus
Parasite 2019 matchup, I still

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think I like 1917 better.
However, Ford V Ferrari is a

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very 7 out of 10 movie.
Yep.

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Which made me sad.
I it was a movie that you know,

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2019 was just such a great year
for movies.

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So many of the great the best
picture nominees I wanted to see

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with Ford V Ferrari being one of
them.

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I, I was it's pretty mid.
It's a pretty fun dad movie that

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has too many like YouTube able
moments for me to really like.

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Love It 20. 19 was such a good
year for movies that we're in

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our fifth match up in this
bracket and we've already had

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four of the best picture
nominees from 2019 in this in

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these 10 films like that's
insane dude.

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It's.
Really nuts.

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I, I, I really think, you know,
we, we talk about different

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years being incredible for film.
This is going to be one of them

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in the history books.
All right, so parasite is moving

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on into the round of 16 pretty
drama free so far.

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Brad, I I need you to hate me
for some reason or this

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episode's going to get boring
very quickly All right, the the

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next match up is the number 13
seed spider man into the spider

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verse against the 20 seed
district 9.

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Now this is a really intriguing
match up because it's like we

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finally found something that the
sci-fi and comic book nerds can

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argue over, right?
Like these movies feel not

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necessarily related to each
other, but kind of like they're

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made for the same general crowd
of people.

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And District 9 was an
interesting rewatch for me.

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I hadn't seen it in probably at
least 10 years.

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I think it holds up really
freaking well.

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It's just not a 10.
And Spider Man was interesting

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to me because I remember not
liking it that much at all when

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I saw it and it boosted its
score all the way up to like a

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nine for me.
So I'm, I'm pretty torn on these

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two, Brad.
Yeah.

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This feels like the closest
match up so far where I like.

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I've really enjoyed district 9.
I really enjoyed spider man into

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the spider verse, and I like
enjoyed them at a similar enough

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level that I'm kind of like,
well, do I want like space

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aliens or animated just madness
that that feels like the vibe

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check for me.
I think I'm going to go with

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space aliens, Bob.
I pitched Spider Man, so that

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means, Brad, that it is time for
us to split the vote here with

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the Coin of Destiny.
Folks, welcome to the coin of

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destiny on film and whiskey.
This is this is perhaps.

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Reintroducing the whole show,
this is perhaps.

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The best feature we have ever
featured on this show.

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Brad has a big old brass coin
he's about to flip.

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The way this works is the higher
seeded film gets heads, the

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lower seeded film gets tails,
and the loser gets eliminated

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from existence.
We forgot to mention that Brad,

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our operative MO is If this film
survives the apocalypse, which

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of these two films should move
on, right?

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Yeah, which one is getting cast
into the fiery inferno all?

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Right, so spider man will be
heads district 9 tails.

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Brad, flip that coin.
Bob, I have flipped onto heads,

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which means Spider man into the
spider verse has escaped

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annihilation for now all.
Right.

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Are you much of A
annihilationist, Bob?

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How do you how do you feel about
God destroying the souls of the

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unworthy?
Oh.

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Man, that's a great question.
I'm I'm big into soul

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destruction, Brad, you know, it
just sounds it just sounds cool.

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I that's I it's more metal that
way it.

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It is a little more metal that
way.

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So now we have the match up of
Parasites and spiders in the

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round of 16.
We're going to move on into our

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next match up, the number 12
seed Inside Out versus the 21

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seed Zodiac.
Unfortunately I I think that

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this match up deserves more
discussion than it's going to

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get, but I also know that you
both like Inside Out more than I

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do and dislike Zodiac more than
I do, so this seems like this

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was one of your easier choices
in the entire My Passions.

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My passions run hot, Bob.
Yeah.

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I mean, if you want Moody
Gyllenhaal, like, sure.

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Like, Zodiac's a good film.
Not compelling enough to beat

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Inside Out.
All right, here's let me let me

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make a match up of just moments
from these two movies 'cause I

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think this would be a better
match up.

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The Hey Jake Gyllenhaal come
down in my basement with me seen

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in Zodiac versus Bing Bong
flinging himself off the back of

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the wagon in Inside Out.
Inside out.

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Oh man.
It's at least a comparable level

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of like well made sequence to
me, yeah.

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No, it's, it's a those are both
great sequences that stir the

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emotions.
I'm, I'm, I'm going with Bing

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bong, Bing bong, Bing bong.
Bing Bong, the real MVP.

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All right, Bing Bong and the
film Inside Out are moving on

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into the round of 16.
And that brings us to our last

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match up in the Blanchette
quadrant, the number five

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overall seed, the Holdovers
versus the 28th seed Argo.

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Now, Brad, I will say, even
though this is our fifth overall

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seed and thus very highly
ranked, Holdovers did not quite

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crack the top tier of films for
you on your heart list, which I

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thought was a little surprising
because we both came out to like

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what, a 9 1/2 or A10 on this
movie?

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Such a good movie I believe.
I believe a nine and a half.

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Yeah, dude, The Holdovers is an
incredible movie.

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It is an instant Christmas
classic in my opinion.

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I'm trying to remember what I
gave it.

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Let's see, you were at a 10 out
of 10, Bob.

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I was at a nine out of 10.
So yeah, for me, The Holdovers,

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it does everything you want it
to do.

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I think that.
What is his name?

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Angus Tolley.
What's the actor?

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Dominic Sessa.
Thank you, Dominic.

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My boy Dami, it's his first
movie and we we can tell that it

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is his first movie and that's
nothing on him.

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He he does a very admirable job.
I think it does hold the movie

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back a little bit.
All right, well, you're wrong,

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but I think that you are correct
enough that we can agree that

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it's going to defeat Argo here.
Argo is a very competently made

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Hollywood movie that upon
rewatch, I'm very surprised that

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this thing won Best Picture.
Good movie.

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I I would not say that it's
anything special.

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Fair.
Yeah, totally.

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I I don't yeah, there there's
just certain movies that maybe

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it made sense in the era for it
to win that award.

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You know, it's it's a good fun
movie that I'm not sure how it

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won best picture.
All right, so we have our first

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eight entrance into the round of
16.

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Brad, have you been keeping
track here?

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I.
Sure have.

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We have Whiplash, Ratatouille
1917, Lala Land Parasite, Spider

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Man, Into the Spider Verse,
Inside Out and The Holdovers.

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Brad, I think it's time that we
take a break here as we're in

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between the round.
Let's try our whiskey for the

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day.
West Fork bottled and Bond

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weeded.
What do you say Let's.

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Get to it.
All right, everybody.

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So this whiskey West Fork
weeded, bottled and Bond

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obviously is coming to us at 100
proof as all bottled and Bond

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products do.
We don't have a mash bill here,

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Bob.
We just know that this is

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weeded, which I would assume
means the second highest grain

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in this is wheat.
That's about it.

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I'll tell you.
What?

441
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,360
Man, This is why you podcast
with old Bob Book.

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I have a mash bill for you.
Oh, they don't have.

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They don't have it on the
website.

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00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760
So, well, they found it on
Breaking Bourbon somehow.

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So once again, we are eternally
indebted to Breaking Bourbon.

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The mash bill listed there is
73% corn, 17% wheat and 10% rye.

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So actually a little bit higher
rye content that I was

448
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,080
expecting.
West Fork is the distillery on

449
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,920
this.
So they're based in Indiana, but

450
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,240
they are not sourcing from that
large juggernaut of an Indiana

451
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,120
distillery.
This is a smaller operation that

452
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:50,040
was started in 2014 by 3 Indiana
natives.

453
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,200
And we are trying, as Brad said,
I would say like their flagship

454
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,800
bourbon here.
This is a A4 year old bottled

455
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,720
and bond.
We did, Brad, as, as our

456
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,240
listeners may or may not know,
bottled and bond is a

457
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,920
distinction given by the
government and there are a lot

458
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,840
of regulations on it, right?
So it has to be the product of 1

459
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,480
distilling season.
It has to be at least four years

460
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,720
old.
It has to be bottled at 100

461
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,600
proof.
It has to be housed in a

462
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,920
government bonded warehouse.
So, you know, this was

463
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,240
established way back in the late
1800s when you could just bottle

464
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,040
a bunch of hooch and make people
go blind and it was a very good

465
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,840
thing.
Now it's just a nice little

466
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,640
thing to slap on your label to
show that you've put time and

467
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,000
care and effort into making your
whiskey.

468
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,720
I'm super excited, man.
I've never tried anything from

469
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,480
this brand, have you?
I have.

470
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,080
Not this is my first exposure.
All right, man.

471
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Let's dive in.
What are you picking up on the

472
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,880
nose of this West Fork Bottled
and Bond weeded bourbon?

473
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,800
Honestly.
Bob, this is this smells very

474
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,800
young to me.
It has the craft vibe, which

475
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,000
sometimes is good, sometimes is
not good.

476
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,240
I'll let you decide how I feel
about it.

477
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:04,480
I smell sawdust and corn and
youth like a street youth. 6 out

478
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,040
of 10 Bob I.
Spell St. youths on this.

479
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,960
I think it's a little bit better
than that, Brad.

480
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,240
And I'm getting an interesting
note you ever make, like I don't

481
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,680
know how you cook your pancakes
in the pan, but I, I like to use

482
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,640
butter in my pan with my
pancakes.

483
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,760
And when like a little piece of
the pancake kind of breaks off

484
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,400
and you could just kind of let
that small bit of batter get a

485
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,560
little over toasted or
overcooked because you're busy

486
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,760
flipping the big pancakes.
It smells like that.

487
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,880
It smells kind of like a Roux
that's been overcooked a bit.

488
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,040
Do you get that butteriness get
a little bit of like a burnt

489
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,720
scent as well?
And I get some saline on it.

490
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,680
And that's in addition to your
kind of regular bourbony notes.

491
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,120
I think it's intriguing.
I don't necessarily think that

492
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,520
this is knocking my socks off,
but I'll give it a 7 out of 10 I

493
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,400
think.
On the palate, it, the corn

494
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,840
really comes through it to me
just tastes very young, which I,

495
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,840
you know, I know that this is 4
years old.

496
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,080
It's very young, very crafty.
It kind of has a little bit of a

497
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,480
vanilla vibe.
It reminds me a little bit of

498
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,440
like kicks cereal, like like a
there's a little bit of a sugary

499
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,640
coating to a very bland ball of
grain underneath.

500
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,600
I don't like this, Bob.
I I'm just going to say it. 5

501
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,600
1/2.
Wow.

502
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,880
Oh.
I'm sorry West Fork, for Brad's

503
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,960
lack of kindness towards you.
Yeah, I listen.

504
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,240
I don't think this is a great
whiskey, however.

505
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,160
You know, it's funny like.
Brad is being so mean.

506
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:36,400
I also too do not think this is
a great I mean I.

507
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,840
Think it's a pretty good whiskey
though.

508
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,120
Like, you know, some whiskeys
are great and most whiskeys are

509
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,640
good and some whiskeys are bad.
And this is definitely not bad

510
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,160
to me.
So like, here's where I'm at on

511
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,280
it.
Though we've been saying for

512
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,480
multiple episodes like, oh, this
whiskey reminds me of the kind

513
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,080
of whiskeys that we drink at the
Kentucky Bourbon Festival.

514
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,840
This whiskey reminds me of the
whiskeys we drink at the Ohio

515
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,680
Distillers Festival.
Like there is something about,

516
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,480
like it's a startup distillery.
Their stuff is just coming to

517
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,560
age.
It still has a little bit of

518
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,560
youthfulness on it for sure.
And it's a little bit thinner

519
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,680
and just not as bold, not as
syrupy on the palate.

520
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,880
But it's still like, I, I like
that kind of whiskey 'cause it

521
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,960
feels like you're kind of
getting in on the ground floor

522
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,160
of something, you know what I
mean?

523
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,080
Like I I'm not going to put this
up against anything from like a

524
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,520
well aged Kentucky stock, but
I'm I'm still going to give it a

525
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920
6 1/2 on the pallet bread.
I.

526
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,920
I am going to be honest with
you, Bob, if you start comparing

527
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:43,120
things to the Ohio Craft Whiskey
Festival, yeah, finish is Taste

528
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,800
of Sour Wheat and I'll give it a
5 out of 10.

529
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,920
Yeah, again, I, I just, I don't
find this to be as unpalatable

530
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,960
as you.
I think it's pretty good.

531
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,200
I'm going to give it a 6.5 again
on the finish overall balance.

532
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,400
If you're reviewing movies on
the Rodger Ebert like 4 star

533
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,560
scale, this is like a 2 1/2 out
of four for me.

534
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,280
It's like right in that 6 1/2
range.

535
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640
I think I'll probably go there
again with this one, Brad.

536
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,760
Yeah, I'll, I'll give it a six
out of 10 on balance.

537
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,040
You know, for it not being my
favorite craft whiskey.

538
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,680
Like the experience is palatable
and straightforward.

539
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,960
So I'll give it a six out of 10
on balance.

540
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Value wise, they are selling
this for $45.00, which I do

541
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,480
think is a very reasonable
price.

542
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,960
I have seen some craft
distilleries out there that I'm

543
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:39,240
not going to name selling
whiskey much worse than this for

544
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:46,520
80 to $140.00.
So like $45.00 is an accurate,

545
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:53,880
accurate place to sell this at.
I, I'm still going to say for

546
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,160
what you are getting in the
bottle, you know, I, I think you

547
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,400
could spend $45.00 elsewhere
and, and get much better value.

548
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,440
But at the end of the day, they
are pricing at the right point.

549
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,720
I'll give it a six out of 10 on
value.

550
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,360
I'm going to.
Give a 7 out of 10.

551
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,760
I do, I just have a soft spot
for the little guy in areas like

552
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,520
this.
You know, I I work in marketing

553
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,280
and I work with a lot of startup
companies.

554
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,440
I've worked with a coffee
company for a couple years and

555
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,240
like, one of the things that we
always get is like, why is your

556
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,800
coffee more expensive than
insert giant brand?

557
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,360
And it's like, 'cause, 'cause
they make $3 billion a year and

558
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,760
they own all their facilities
and they own farms and like,

559
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,440
they have completely streamlined
the entire process of coffee

560
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,520
growing, importing, roasting,
like it costs money, The.

561
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,560
Oil.
The oil Baron of the coffee

562
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,240
world.
Yeah, I mean.

563
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,600
Like it, it costs money when
you're a little guy and you're

564
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,960
trying to break into the
industry.

565
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,520
And I think to price this at
$45.00 is actually quite

566
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,880
generous of them to do.
I'm going to give it a 7 here,

567
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,000
Brad.
That takes me to a 33.5 out of

568
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,560
50.
Where you falling on this one?

569
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,960
Not terribly lower than you, but
28.5 out of 50.

570
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,080
All right, so that.
Takes us to a 62 out of 100 or a

571
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,480
31 out of 50.
I think this is a good baseline

572
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,040
place to start with West Fork.
I have definitely tried the

573
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,640
other two old hammers and I
think they are a step up from

574
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,800
here, Brad.
So I'm excited to dive into

575
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,440
those two in our next episode.
Yeah, I, I.

576
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,680
Will say Bob, I have drank all
three of them before this.

577
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,920
I knew going into it I did not
like this bottled and bond

578
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,960
weeded.
And just in case there is

579
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,360
somebody out there who listens
to this episode and not the

580
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,520
next, although that would be
just asinine of you not to

581
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,840
fight, you know, finish out the
bracket episode.

582
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,080
I want you to know the old
hammers cast strength and rum

583
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,440
finish are really, really good.
And I, I, I like what they're

584
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,320
doing at West Fork.
I'm excited to review those in

585
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,680
the next episode.
The bottle and bottle we did

586
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,960
just didn't quite do it for me.
Bob.

587
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,000
That's OK.
Man, you know what does do it

588
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,520
for me, Brad?
What's that, Robert?

589
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,720
The Season. 9 bracket challenge
was it getting?

590
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,120
Slapped in the face by JK
Simmons A.

591
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,160
Huge turn on.
Let's get back into that

592
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,800
bracket, Brad.
Let's get to it, man.

593
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,120
All right, so we're getting back
into this round of 32.

594
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,280
We are in the top right quadrant
of our bracket, better known as

595
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,560
Brad.
This is.

596
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,960
Going to be known as the Robert
Zemeckis Memorial Bracket.

597
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,960
Bobby Z Our.
Favorite director His he he

598
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,320
might not be passed away,
however his film career seems to

599
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,240
be.
Did you see his most recent film

600
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,960
here with Tom Hanks and Robin
Wrights where they are digitally

601
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,240
de aged for the whole film?
No, listen, what I?

602
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,960
Tell you.
Brad unwatchable for 98% of the

603
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,320
movie.
And then the last scene of the

604
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,720
movie made me cry so hard that I
cried the whole way home from

605
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880
them.
It was unbelievable how much I

606
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,320
turned around on that movie in
the final two minutes.

607
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,920
Yeah.
So you went Bobby Z baby A5 out

608
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,320
of 10 to A7?
I went from like a three to like

609
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,280
a 5 1/2, but still, it's a big
deal.

610
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,679
That's almost as big as my jump
on Eternal Sunshine, so yeah.

611
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,719
Yeah.
All right.

612
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,280
Well, so in the Bobby Z bracket,
we're starting with the number

613
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,840
two overall seed, Oppenheimer
versus the number 31 seed, The

614
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,440
Big Short.
I think the more interesting

615
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,880
thing to talk about here is
Oppenheimer, obviously Brad,

616
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,360
Best Picture winner, one of
only, I think, 2 movies to hit

617
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,360
all four of our criteria for
inclusion in the Canon here.

618
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,679
Oppenheimer's interesting
because I do think that it's

619
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:44,679
messy and I do think that it's
shaggy.

620
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,880
And I do think that it's a movie
that is really saved by the

621
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,520
editor, Jennifer Lame.
Like it is one of the best

622
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,239
edited movies I've ever seen.
I think Nolan gets a lot of

623
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,400
credit where a lot of credit
should go to the editor.

624
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,880
And I've cooled just a bit on
Oppenheimer to the point where

625
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,880
I'm like, I think it maybe it's
a 9 1/2, but it's a monumental 9

626
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,800
1/2.
Yeah.

627
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,080
Does that make sense?
Oh.

628
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,160
Absolutely dude, the the thing
was a freaking juggernaut in

629
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,520
American culture, which is
pretty crazy for a three hour

630
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,320
biopic drama.
Like I I still it's still kind

631
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,600
of blows my mind how much power
Nolan has over American cinema,

632
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,840
but it's well deserved.
He, you know, way long time ago,

633
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,320
probably in like season 3 or 4
when we did Interstellar, I just

634
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,880
said I was like, listen, man, he
swings for the fences every

635
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,000
single time and he has a crew
around him that that makes it

636
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,680
come close.
So it makes sense to me that

637
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,560
this film did so well.
But man, oh man, it it's wild

638
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,160
that this type of movie did so
well at the awards with the

639
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,160
American public.
Like everybody loved this movie,

640
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,240
The Big Short.
Meanwhile is a movie that just

641
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:03,880
did not seem to work at all for
you.

642
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,640
I like it, but I I do think that
it's just frankly not nearly as

643
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,440
good as Oppenheimer is.
Yeah.

644
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,040
Oppenheimer is the clear victor
here, which takes us to our next

645
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,160
match up hold.
On I have one question for you,

646
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,560
Brad.
Oh, OK, go ahead.

647
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,680
Are you jacked that Oppenheimer
moved on to the next round?

648
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,200
Buddy.
I'm jacked to the tits.

649
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,800
We had to give it one more Jack
to the tits before we send it

650
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,600
off into the fiery furnace.
What a.

651
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,200
Great line, Oh.
It's amazing now.

652
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:36,960
I'm sorry.
Please, please proceed now that

653
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,080
you're jacked to the tits.
Which makes a lot of sense for

654
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,240
the next movie I'm about to
announce, Bob.

655
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:51,480
We are talking the number 15
seed Wolf of Wall Street, going

656
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,240
up against the number 18 seed,
Skyfall.

657
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:57,760
This is 1.
Of the harder ones for me, I

658
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,080
don't think Skyfall is as
successful for you as it is for

659
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,960
me.
I like James Bond.

660
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,080
I think it's a very handsomely
mounted film.

661
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Wolf of Wall Street is like a
It's like the White Album.

662
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,640
It's like.
Handsomely mounted sounds like a

663
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,960
very British way of saying well
hung handsomely.

664
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,120
Mounted is exactly what happens
in multiple scenes of Wolf of

665
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,480
Wall Street.
Sure.

666
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,400
Wolf of Wall Street reminds me
of the White Album in that it's

667
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120
like we made 50 songs and we're
going to just throw them all on

668
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,600
an album and 35 of them are
classics and 10 of them are OK

669
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200
and five of them suck.
Like, that's Wolf of Wall Street

670
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,160
for me.
I what?

671
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,120
What scene, What scene in Wolf
of Wall Street is your #9?

672
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,680
Because what a like, it's not
even a song.

673
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,240
It's like a concept weird
avant-garde thing.

674
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,840
So where where are you at on
Wolf of Wall Street with its

675
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,800
avant-garde Ness?
It's got.

676
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,640
To be the scene where they're on
Quaaludes at the party and then

677
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,240
everything goes into slow motion
for a minute and then Jonah Hill

678
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:03,400
wanders down and has his Dick
out.

679
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,160
Yes.
That's got to be the Revolution

680
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:12,240
9 of Wolf of Wall Street.
Brad, I picked Skyfall here, but

681
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:13,880
it's because it's so razor thin
for me.

682
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:15,560
I don't really care what moves
on here.

683
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,960
They're both really good movies,
and I think that Oppenheimer is

684
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,800
going to defeat either of them.
Yeah.

685
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,800
I, I picked Wolf of Wall Street.
I, I am with you.

686
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,400
I, I think Skyfall is a good
competitor for Wall Street.

687
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,920
That, like Daniel Craig, nails
it.

688
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,960
I I think that it makes a lot of
sense to pick that here.

689
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,480
All right, well, it's time for
us to flip the Coin of Destiny.

690
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,520
So heads will be Wolf of Wall
Street, tails will be Skyfall

691
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:50,840
Rad Flip that coin.
Bob, we are on a streak.

692
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,280
Heads has won again, which means
the Wolf of Wall Street has

693
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,040
moved on.
I'm not going anywhere.

694
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,960
You have such a weird
pronunciation of that title.

695
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,960
The Wolf of Wall Street.
It's great.

696
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:10,480
Gary Oldman.
All right, dude, let's move down

697
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,160
into our next match up, the
number 10 film How to Train Your

698
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,320
Dragon versus the number 23
movie Moneyball, Bob I.

699
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,080
Was a little surprised at both
of these rankings.

700
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,640
I did not expect How to Train
Your Dragon to be this high.

701
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,360
I didn't expect Moneyball to be
quite this low.

702
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,840
You like?
Moneyball less than me and I

703
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,200
think that I just kind of shared
with you again that it has the

704
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,560
like spotlight syndrome of the
ceiling on the way this movie is

705
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,880
made is like a perfect 8.5.
Like it will never achieve

706
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,960
higher than an 8.5, but it is
like a great 8.5.

707
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,520
I just think how to train Your
Dragon is more successful at

708
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,080
what it's trying to do.
Like it is a perfect nine or a

709
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,480
9.5 for me.
And especially with that crappy

710
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,840
remake coming out soon, I want
to hang on to this one for as

711
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:00,880
long as we can.
Brad.

712
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,000
Do you think it's going to be
garbage?

713
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,560
Oh.
Absolutely.

714
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,000
That really reports on people
who have seen it has said that

715
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,400
it's like in the 90s this
director Gus Van Zandt did a

716
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,760
remake of Alfred Hitchcock's
Psycho and the whole premise was

717
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,600
like, it's a shot for shot
remake.

718
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,360
Like we have set the camera up
in exactly the same way.

719
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,720
And they said that this is
basically that.

720
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,920
But like Roger Deakins helped
make this version and did not

721
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,560
help make the new version.
So you know, how good can it be?

722
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,840
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, if you get Deakins on

723
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,720
it, you know, maybe it it has a
chance.

724
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,440
That's unfortunate, man.
Like at the end of the day, I

725
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,280
think that this, you know, we
compared it to Avatar a few

726
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,040
times.
I think that a live action

727
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,080
remake of this movie actually
could make sense.

728
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,560
You just have to do it right.
You have to cast it well, you

729
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,120
have to have a good
cinematographer.

730
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,840
And too often these are money
grabs, which means they're not

731
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,240
going to hire the best crew,
right?

732
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,560
You're not going to get deacons
or like, I don't know, like

733
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,000
could you imagine if like Denny
took took a took a swing at this

734
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,040
movie?
Like that would be freaking cool

735
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,400
if he made a version of how to
train your dragon.

736
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Alas, he did not.
But I do think it's good enough

737
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,360
to move on to the round of 16.
Brad.

738
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,680
Yeah.
Totally.

739
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,840
It it is better than Moneyball.
Moneyball is a perfect dad

740
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,120
movie, man.
Yeah.

741
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,880
It's it's going into the fiery
furnace and as Brad Pitt says in

742
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,920
that movie, how can you not be
romantic about Dragons?

743
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,960
So we're moving that on to the
next round.

744
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,440
And that takes us to what is for
sure Brad's favorite match up

745
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,800
and the easiest one for him in
this entire bracket.

746
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,960
Witness me.
We're talking about the number

747
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,680
seven seed Mad Max Fury Rd. up
against the 26 seed Creed.

748
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,960
Now listen, we both know what's
moving on here.

749
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,520
I think Creed's a good movie and
I was shocked that how flawed it

750
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,240
was on rewatch for me this time
around, yeah.

751
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,560
It's a good film it it comes
nowhere close.

752
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,000
The moniker of modern
masterpiece.

753
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,360
Like.
Mad Max does some damage in my

754
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,760
bracket, Bob, like I'm sure it
does.

755
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,040
I still walk like I can't
believe I watched that film

756
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,560
twice in a day.
And yet when I think about it,

757
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,400
I'm like, man, I, I should
probably go watch Mad Max again.

758
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,360
Well, I guess it's moving on
here, Brad.

759
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,400
Then that means that we have our
first four entries into the

760
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,120
round of 16 in this side of the
bracket, but we've got to finish

761
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,120
out our final quadrant.
And today we are celebrating the

762
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,280
54th birthday of the director
Sofia Coppola.

763
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,400
So we're down here in the
Coppola region, Brad, and we're

764
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,280
starting out with a movie that I
think Sofia Coppola would really

765
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,200
love because it has the same
kind of vibe and rhythm as Lost

766
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,520
in Translation.
It's my personal favorite movie

767
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,680
of this entire bracket.
It's the number three overall

768
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,760
seed past lives going up against
the number 30 seed, John Wick.

769
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,080
John Wick, a good movie that I
liked a lot.

770
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,000
It is no past lives I really.
Wish that we had the crossover

771
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,240
where like John Wick is like in
a murder spree and it just so

772
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,640
happens to like coincide with
them drinking at the bar in the

773
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,520
middle of the night.
I, I think that's the, the

774
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,680
crossover film that we all need
and deserve where the, whatever

775
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,880
the Korean gentleman's name is,
he like hit, you know, his

776
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,520
childhood love is murdered.
And so now he becomes the new

777
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,240
John Wick.
So can we Would it be called the

778
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,480
past Wick?
Is that the name of the mash up?

779
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,640
Past Wicks.
Past.

780
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:47,120
Wicks, can we Can we say goodbye
to John Wick?

781
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,240
Yeah, we can.
We, we can shoot it in the head

782
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:52,680
bomb, he says.
I'm thinking I'm back and I say,

783
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,720
O contraire, go into the
fireplace.

784
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:55,600
What a.
Terrible.

785
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,440
What a terrible line.
Oh, you're you're.

786
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,960
Ridiculous.
That is a.

787
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,800
Line written by a stuntman.
I'm sorry it.

788
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,760
Was a good movie.
Past Lives is way better.

789
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,880
Past Lives moves on into the
round of 16.

790
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,600
Now, Brad, before we move on, I
got to ask you about your Past

791
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,080
Lives ranking.
You got it at #7 which is a very

792
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,800
admirable ranking.
It is behind Mad Max Fury Rd.

793
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,280
for you.
It's behind Parasite,

794
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,880
Oppenheimer, La La Land,
Whiplash, and a movie that has

795
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,480
yet to be named.
Is it just that you don't think

796
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,000
it's as good?
Is it just that it didn't

797
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,880
capture your heart as much as
some of these?

798
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:29,680
Where you at on Past?
I was going to say.

799
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,080
It's a heart ranking.
Like looking back at my list, I

800
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,400
could maybe move Mad Max up a
few slots, maybe to the four

801
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,800
slot and drop Oppenheimer and
Parasite back.

802
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Like do these top 6 movies.
All of them could probably

803
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,200
replace each other at #1, but
not.

804
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,640
Past lives, 'cause that's at
seven.

805
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,000
Yeah, past.
Lives is the first one that's

806
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,200
like just outside that like
doesn't hit that man.

807
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,960
This could be my number one
movie.

808
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,480
Like on any given day I could
look at Parasite, Oppenheimer,

809
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Whiplash and be like, yes, this
is the number one movie of the

810
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,480
season.
I think the highest I could go

811
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,840
for Past Lives would be like
four or five.

812
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,400
So yeah, I, I really love Past
lives.

813
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,760
I think it's a beautiful story.
I think it asks phenomenally

814
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,640
important questions about the
human experience and and how we

815
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,600
go about our lives.
It's just not quite there on a

816
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,480
you know, Mad Max has the holy
shit, this is one of the coolest

817
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,000
things I've ever seen on a movie
screen factor past lives

818
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,080
doesn't, you know, just doesn't
doesn't quite hit that level of

819
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,640
spectacle.
All right.

820
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,840
Brad, we're moving past lives
on.

821
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,160
Even though you gave it a 10 out
of 10 in the episode.

822
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,240
It's it's funny how that works,
isn't it?

823
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,960
Like you can say something is a
10 out of 10, but it still

824
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,840
doesn't crack the top five or
whatever for you on your heart

825
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:00,280
list.
Yeah.

826
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,240
Yeah, it's, it's wild, dude.
I, I think I gave a decent

827
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:07,680
amount of 10s this year.
I, I try to be stingy with my

828
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,760
10s, but then I get excited
about things and you know, here

829
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,000
we are with multiple 10 out of
10s.

830
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,640
Great movie, Bob.
Now, Brad, these next couple

831
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,560
match ups I think are the ones
that we're going to start

832
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,440
getting contentious on.
We've got the number 14 seed

833
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,080
Dune Part 2 up against the 19
seed JoJo Rabbit.

834
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,200
Now I know how much you love
JoJo Rabbit and I don't have

835
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,160
your list pulled up in front of
me, but you ranked it pretty

836
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,120
high.
I'm just way cooler on JoJo

837
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,040
Rabbit than you are.
I I think if you looked at the

838
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,440
spectrum of like what most of
film Twitter thinks about JoJo

839
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,880
Rabbit, you and I are only a
tiny sliver apart from each

840
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,080
other.
Like I actually like this movie

841
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,720
way more than the general
population it seems, but way

842
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:55,320
less than you.
It's it's wild to me that people

843
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,200
don't like this movie.
I like.

844
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,760
I don't understand it.
People are so dumb.

845
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,000
That's.
It it was your #8 ranked movie.

846
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,280
It was the first movie after
JoJo Rabbit or after Past Lives

847
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,760
for You.
Yeah, I I love JoJo Rabbit.

848
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,560
I think it's a great film.
I think the comedy is really

849
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,560
well done and I I think when you
can have great comedy with some

850
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,960
great physical, you know, gags
paired with a really

851
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,680
heartwarming heart rending like
story and some awesome

852
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,560
performances.
I like this movie is incredible.

853
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,720
The the two child actors do a
great job.

854
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,760
Scarlett Johansson is stunningly
good in this movie.

855
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,680
The the amount of conflict she
has within her soul as she's

856
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:50,320
trying to navigate a wildly
tense and unfriendly hostile

857
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,480
world is is incredible.
So yeah, JoJo Rabbit is the

858
00:47:54,480 --> 00:48:01,960
choice here.
I'm going dune, baby.

859
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,280
I'm going Lisan Al gaib.
I want him riding a sandworm

860
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,680
into the next round.
Brad, screw that kid, JoJo.

861
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,720
Throw him into the fiery furnace
with the rest of the Nazis.

862
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,440
I want the Lisan Al gaib.
Hey, man, he's.

863
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,880
Not a Nazi at the end of the
movie.

864
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,520
And, and you know what,
honestly, honestly, Paul Tradies

865
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,160
kind of is a Nazi at the end of
the movie.

866
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,080
So, you know, we're just going
to ignore that.

867
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,080
We all know where Bob stands.
Dune Part 2 is moving on for me

868
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,480
Brad, and that means that we
have a coin flip in our future

869
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,040
here.
Dune as the higher ranked movie

870
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,600
is going to be heads.
JoJo Rabbit is tails.

871
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:51,680
Brad flip the coin of destiny.
Man, this has been a episode of

872
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,240
Heads, and yet here we are with
Tails coming up on top.

873
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,080
JoJo Rabbit.
No is moving on veto.

874
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,800
Power needs to be instituted
here.

875
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,920
I cannot believe we are moving
JoJo freaking Rabbit on Over

876
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,920
Dune Part 2.
Dude, here's the thing.

877
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,920
I could show you my bracket.
I literally wrote down JoJo.

878
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,880
And then I thought about it and
I was like, Dune's probably the

879
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,960
better movie.
And I scribbled out JoJo and I

880
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,760
wrote Dune.
And then like literally as we

881
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,080
started, I was looking at it and
I'm like, Nah, JoJo Jojo's move

882
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,800
it on well.
Maybe I can get get back at you

883
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,800
here with this next one cause
we've got the number 11 overall

884
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,600
seed Everything Everywhere All
at Once up against the number 22

885
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,440
seed Once Upon A Time In
Hollywood.

886
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,480
I want to bury the lead here a
little bit, Brad 'cause I know

887
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,480
you're chomping at the bit.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is

888
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,760
where I'm going to start a movie
that we both like and that both

889
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,440
of us agree is like, I don't
understand why people think this

890
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,200
is Tarantino's best movie.
It just rambles and then it ends

891
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,720
and the ending is so good that
people forget how much it

892
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,840
rambles.
For some people, that works.

893
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,200
I think for both of us, it was a
little bit.

894
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Well, let's see.
Where was it on your list, Brad?

895
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,160
I mean, I I gave every.
I gave Once Upon a time a

896
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,600
Hollywood, a nine out of 10,
Bob.

897
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,400
Oh yeah.
You have it at #9 on the season

898
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,680
and I gave.
It at #9 I don't know, I don't

899
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,600
know how it got down to 22.
Did you like rank this number

900
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,920
30?
Pretty close man.

901
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,280
Yeah, I, I don't have my my
ranking pulled up in front of

902
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,040
me, but it was real low.
Yeah, I.

903
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,960
I was shocked to see it here.
I was also shocked to see

904
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,160
Everything Everywhere All at
Once at 11.

905
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,160
I, I knew that you did not like
that nearly as much as I did.

906
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,520
I I don't know, man, this match
up befuddled me because in

907
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,760
another world, Once Upon a Time
in Hollywood could have made my

908
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,680
top 8.
Like, I really liked that film.

909
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,880
And I think Tarantino nails it
on the pacing that, you know,

910
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,320
it's not a perfect movie, but
there's so much to love here.

911
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:07,920
And you know Brad Pitt zoned out
on shrooms killing Austin Butler

912
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,000
and company is incredible.
And you have Leonardo DiCaprio

913
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,040
burning a girl to death with a
flamethrower in a pool.

914
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,440
You sure?
Do and.

915
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,240
But and then like casually
talking about it with his

916
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,480
neighbor 10 minutes later,
Crucially.

917
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,960
Though it features 0 bagels that
suck in all of the universe

918
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,440
around them.
Now, Brad, I I know that you're

919
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,000
looking at this ranking.
I know that Everything

920
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,560
Everywhere All At Once was your
number one ranked film of the

921
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,800
season, which is freaking wild,
but you are entitled to your

922
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,760
opinion.
But as you can see, it's pretty

923
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,960
low on my list.
It's a movie that I've I've kind

924
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,040
of cooled on and really turned
on over the last couple years.

925
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,120
I just don't think it's going to
age very well.

926
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,360
I think that the emotional
moments in this movie work

927
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,720
perfectly, but there is a lot of
silliness that you have to wade

928
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:01,920
through to get there.
However, I moved Everything

929
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,520
Everywhere on in this round.
I'm assuming you did too, Brad.

930
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,280
That's right.
You did, Bob.

931
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,240
You gave it an 8 out of 10.
Yeah.

932
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,720
So it's it's not like you hate
this movie.

933
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:15,880
No, it it very clearly works for
you, just not on the level that

934
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,840
people who understand cinema.
Do you like me?

935
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,000
You have been known for your
extensive knowledge of the

936
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,240
history of movies, Brad.
Everything Everywhere All at

937
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:28,080
Once moves on into the next
round, which takes us to our

938
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,240
very last match up.
And then, Brad, I have an idea

939
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,480
to share with you.
We're talking about the number

940
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,600
six overall seed Godzilla -1 up
against the 27 seed Prisoners.

941
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,600
I'm pretty bummed about
prisoners, man.

942
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,360
I remember this movie being
great, and it is simply pretty

943
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,680
good.
Fair.

944
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,960
Yeah.
Yeah.

945
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,760
Totally fair.
It's it's a pretty good movie

946
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:55,680
that does not pull any punches
in trying to make you feel

947
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,520
terrible and definitely doesn't
give you any room to feel good

948
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,520
about the human condition.
Not a fan, Bob.

949
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,520
I I I like it and I really don't
like it.

950
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:12,000
Which means Godzilla -1 is
moving on, question mark.

951
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,040
Oh, absolutely, dude.
Do you want to hear a fun story,

952
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:21,240
please?
Yesterday, Haley and I were

953
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,760
doing our anatomy scan to see
the gender of our third child.

954
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,040
Hey.
Congratulations man.

955
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,360
Yeah, I already.
Knew but film and Whiskey nation

956
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,120
did not so you know yeah, we're
having.

957
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,960
A third baby, it's super
exciting.

958
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,280
There were certain points where
they're like measuring the blood

959
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,240
flow in the baby to make sure
you know everything's moving

960
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,880
properly and and doing well.
Well, it doesn't show up as red,

961
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,720
it shows up as blue.
And so it's at a certain point

962
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:53,280
my, my in utero child like lit
up in blue.

963
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,880
And we had just watched Godzilla
-1 a few weeks ago.

964
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,320
I was like, I was like my baby's
Godzilla.

965
00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:03,560
Prepare for the nuclear blast to
just come out your wife's

966
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,560
stomach.
Yeah, dude, yes.

967
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,880
That's hilarious, man.
All right, so on that weird

968
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,760
note, Godzilla moves on into the
next round, and that takes us.

969
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,680
And that leaves us with our
final list of 16 films.

970
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,320
Now, Brad, we've never done this
before, but we have a lot to get

971
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,360
through here.
We still have awards to give

972
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,800
out.
We have two whiskeys to give

973
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,600
out.
Typically, we divide this into

974
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,240
two episodes, but we are only
halfway through what we

975
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:31,600
typically do in episode 1, and I
think that we're running long.

976
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,520
Obviously.
I think I should propose a third

977
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,520
episode of Bracket Challenge
Third.

978
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,520
Episode, I think let's.
Stop here today, right?

979
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,320
Let's take the round of 16, just
the round of 16 in the next

980
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,640
episode, and we'll knock out
these whiskeys and some awards,

981
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,880
and then we will proceed with
our round of eight, round of 4

982
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,120
championship in the final
episode.

983
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:56,840
What do you say?
I love that idea, Bob.

984
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,920
I am tired of talking to you.
I.

985
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,640
Too, man, we need a break but
before we get a break, let's get

986
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,320
the final list of 16 Brad, can
you share that list with our

987
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:07,800
listeners?
We.

988
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:14,160
Have Whiplash versus Ratatouille
1917 versus Lala Land, Parasite

989
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,160
versus Spider Man, Into the
Spider verse, Inside Out versus

990
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,840
the Holdovers, Oppenheimer
versus Wolf of Wall Street, How

991
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,960
to Train Your Dragon versus Mad
Max Fury Rd.

992
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,320
Past Lives versus JoJo Rabbit,
Everything Everywhere All at

993
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Once, facing off against the
monster itself.

994
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,360
Godzilla -1.
All right, folks, So what we're

995
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,720
going to do is today's Tuesday.
On Friday we will release Part 2

996
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,400
of the Bracket Challenge, which
is our round of 16, and then

997
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,840
we'll come back after the
weekend.

998
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,880
We'll finish it out next Tuesday
with the real final episode.

999
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,280
You get 3 episodes for the price
of two, folks.

1000
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,760
Where else can you get that but
film and whiskey?

1001
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,400
Join us on Friday for the next
episode, but until then, I'm Bob

1002
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,320
Book.
Hi.

1003
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,320
I'm Brad G and we'll.
See you next time.