Scott Pilgrim vs. The World / Puncher's Chance Bourbon

0:00 In 2010 director, Edgar Wright and star. Michael Cera gave the world. A stylized journey through a young man's search for healing in 2022. We try a new brand that launched mid pandemic. The film is Scott Pilgrim vs. The World. The whiskey is puncher's Chance bourbon. Hey, that's that's a that's a good one, isn't it? Because they like punch a lot wasn't punching. Yeah, but what review them both. This is the Film and whiskey podcast, welcome to the film and whiskey podcast, where each week, we review a classic movie and a glass of whiskey. I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and this week, we are continuing Continuing, our Edgar Wright miniseries with his 2010 film Scott Pilgrim vs.

1:06 The World Brad. This is a movie that was not originally slated for this season and in the offseason when we were, you know, coordinating sponsors for this year. We struck up a deal with our friends over at Doc Swensons and they said, Hey in addition to taking our money? Would you like to do a review of our favorite film Scott Pilgrim vs. The World and we'd been looking for an opportunity to do. An Edgar Wright kind of retrospective in the first place. So it worked out perfectly we slotted in this movie. And the reason I say all that is because for maybe only like the second or third time in the history of our podcast, I had never seen this movie before. Oh My Gosh, Robert.

1:48 Yeah, where were you in 2010? Not watching this. I was buying a ticket to the social network. Not not this one, that, that would make sense. Yep. Oh, man. Yeah, this is, this is wild. I know that charade was a movie. I had seen and you had not, I don't. What other movies did you? I mean, there might have been like, I don't think I had ever watched. Well, no, that's not true. I was gonna say Secondhand Lions but I had watched that Prime my recommendation. Yeah. So yeah, let's let's just say, for the sake of argument, this is only the second one ever. Yeah, we should lie almost like, have a moment of silence. This is momentous. We should have a moment of silence for this movie, but it's not for.

2:32 The reason that you're recommending credit was was that Bob, I gotta say, dude, I am not a fan of this movie as soon as you told me you'd never seen it. I was like I just feel like as I was watching it I just felt. I was like man this just doesn't feel like a bob book type of movie. Well you know how like the older you get the more I don't want to say set in your ways you are but you're willing to go out of your comfort zone, a little bit too. Watch films for this podcast Brad. But in general you have a good sense going into those movies of like I'm gonna like this movie or I'm not, you know what I mean? And sometimes a movie surprises you, but just generally speaking, there are certain types of movies that everyone has that they like, and that they don't like and see, I don't know, man, I was excited to watch a movie about the assassination of a famous cowboy, but here we are.

3:24 That's what I'm saying. So this movie, I've never seen it but partially it's because I think I just always I knew I wasn't going to like this movie. I was very familiar with it. I've seen visuals from it before, it's just in this weird. Kind of sub-genre of, I don't even want to call it, like, video game movie, but that sort of like fantasy loser. Nerd movie that not just, like, it just doesn't know, like not. No, it's not a movie for losers and nerds. It's like a movie about a loser. In a nerd. That is Fantastical. And no, no, no, no. I see what you're saying. Stop it. Fine. Yeah, that's Right, I'll stand by it. This is the place to be honest with how you really feel about the world.

4:07 Yeah man, it just exists in this really weird place for me, where I'll watch a quote-unquote like dumb action movie all day. Like I'm, you know, I've raved to people about Michael Bay's movie ambulance this year. I loved that movie, this movie, like it just it's in this middle ground for me, where it's like, I just don't think that's going to be for me and I'll tell you what man, I respect. What? Happening on screen. But as its unfolding I'm like, this is not for me, if it makes you feel any better. This movie was made on a budget of 60 million and its worldwide. Gross was 49 million. Yeah. Sex. Clearly the world agreed with you Scott Pilgrim. Lost in his battle.

4:51 He certainly did man. Alright so you had seen this movie prior to the podcast, I had. Yeah I I think this was my second mate. Maybe third time watching it. I know I watched it in college at the request of a friend. We watched it together at some point and I really enjoyed it. I thought it was like a fun amusing, quirky kind of movie. Honestly, I think it would have been. I'm pretty sure I saw before I saw Shaun of the Dead. So I think it would have been my first experience with Edgar Wright. I'm developing a theory and I say that because I'm everything I say about this movie is going to be an intelligent Theory. Has, I literally finished watching this movie 90 seconds before we press record like, like I finished the film I came on, I said, hey Brad, and we started recording.

5:39 What was there like a really quick Edgar Wright cut from you like ripping, ripping the DVD out of the player, slamming it into the case. Claiming the case is closed. Pulling your microphone out and just boom. You're there. The here I am. I'll bet that it's fun to watch this movie in a group setting. I bet this movie plays better. Better like as not as a party movie but you know, there's eight of us hanging out in a room and we're all shooting to as we're watching a movie. Kind of, it's the anti silence. Basically, the anti silence. Yes. You should have watched this one instead. Yes. But I think part of why I may not care for this movie, is that? It is such a hyperactive film that. I feel like the more attention you give it, the more exhausting it is.

6:26 And when you're in a room where you can kind of like make an offhanded comment every now and then or get Then go pee and let the thing keep playing. I actually feel like this would be a perfect movie for that kind of setting. And I actually I don't mean that as a slight at all. I just think that like me sitting in my room, you know, watching this film with my movie critic extra serious hat on may not have been the best mode for watching this movie. I just see Andy from the office pool in his heart ass that I don't know. What do you think though? Do you think this would be like the ideal setting for this movie is Is group. I mean, the first time I watched it I think it was just me and my friend Zeke and so it wasn't like a big group setting but it was nice to watch it with him.

7:11 He already had seen and enjoyed it, but yeah, this time through. I watched it as like, you Bob with my serious movie critic hat on and by myself late at night, there you go. Oh, I was still a fan of the movie. I think that the the thing I really like about At the movie, If I had to boil it down, it's just it's really quirky and zany and kind of off-the-wall and the humor works for me. And it's got a really sweet message of like a boy and a girl who are really lost in their lives and finding each other. In the midst of not being certain about what's going on for them. Yeah, I'm like, I'm down with that. It's not like a 10/10 or anything. It's not even a nine out of ten, but it's fun and amusing and entertaining.

7:59 And I like Thought about it. I'm with you man. I think that there's a, you know, even for me as a guy who didn't care for the movie, it is admirable that everyone involved in this movie is 100% committed to the bit. You know what I mean? Like everyone has bought in and it is a very, very particular. I think part of what was so jarring about it for me is that it wasn't I don't know how to explain it. I was gonna say it's not self-aware, that's not true because it's totally self-aware, but it's not self-aware in the Marvel way. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Were there like undercutting everything with like Winks at the camera? This one like it parodies the super serious kind of like anime roots that it that it's going for but it's also doing it at like a 100% commitment level and yeah.

8:50 And I couldn't like part of what threw me was. Like I'm trying to figure out, are we watching a Fantastical World here? Where the things in this world are actually happening. Are we just watching what's going on? Inside some, you know, like young man's head are we just supposed to like I couldn't? I couldn't quite understand, like, what's the realism of this world. But again, I think part of the reason that it threw me so much is that they aren't winking at the camera the whole time. And it's kind of refreshing in a way to to go back and watch a Phase three MCU movie where not. Everything has to be a send-up of itself. Well, and that's the beautiful thing about this movie that I don't know. I was watching a review.

9:37 This is going to be super nerdy. Bob, I was watching a review of The Dungeons & Dragons movie trailer that just came out the other day and he was talking about how movies that talk about fantasy have to go In one of two directions, they their have to go the Lord of the Rings route and take it super seriously or they have to go the Thor Ragnarok route. And as you were saying the MCU phase 3 route and just make fun of itself the entire time. And obviously the D&D movie is going the second route. The thing I love about Scott Pilgrim is that it takes itself, really? Seriously like it knows that it is a graphic novel adaptation. It doesn't try to be anything else and it's just Meant to be what it is and I can respect that in a director.

10:26 I was telling a friend of mine that I really just think that Edgar Wright is one of the very few directors that could that could have pulled off Scott Pilgrim vs. The World. Like, I really think it's one of the best graphic novel adaptations that's ever been done. And I think it's because Edgar Wright with his his style of cinematography just fits the The world of manga and and all of that goes into that. All right, Brad we've gone like 10 minutes already and we have not thrown over to America's favorite segments, Brad explains. As we prepare for that gem, we were gonna. We're going to say real quick.

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11:52 For that because a lot of times, the internet is a place where things suck and I'm really happy that I feel like we've been able to provide just the tiniest teensiest little corner of the internet. That's, that's pretty awesome. If you two want to pay for our friendship, you can go visit us at patreon.com slash film whiskey Brad. It is time for Brad, explains the part of the podcast where my co-host, Brad breaks down, the plot of the film that he has just seen often. For the first time Brad we've put 60 seconds on the clock can you break down the plot of Scott Pilgrim vs. The World? Scott Pilgrim is a young 22 year.

12:32 Old Canadian who is really struggling to deal with the breakup of someone, he thought to be his true love and in the midst of that, he starts dating. A 17 year-old high schooler, which his friends all. Tell him is an absolutely terrible idea. He eventually meets this girl named Ramona Flowers. Who he is wildly interested in. He's had dreams about her and so he tries to break up with knives, isn't able to do it and he tries to pursue Ramona, and she is interested in him for some reason. So they start dating and knives becomes his stalker. Scott's in a band that is really terrible, they're called The Sex by bombs. He has a gay roommate, his sisters Anna Kendrick's, he fights a bunch of evil ex boyfriends. And girlfriends of Ramona Flowers. That's like the whole thrust of the movie that he fights all these bad people and he figures out in the end that he is worth her love and she learns that she can be her own person and it's really beautiful, boom, boom.

13:38 Or should we say ba bom? But Bob, all right. Bob, I got a question for you. Yeah. Go ahead. Do you know what a bomb has? I do not Bob a bomb is the little I'll bomb character that tries to blow Mario and Mario. That's right. I knew that I had heard that before. Yeah, you're welcome. How fun. Okay, so do you get it? It's a reference to a video reference. Yeah, wow, and avocado. Thanks, all right, I got his before we even get into the performances today. Brad. I just, I have to ask you about the world of this movie, because I don't really know how much more I can talk about the Without understanding where you're coming from in your interpretation of it, and trying to figure out what I think about it, like, is this movie's supposed to be a, what's like anime called manga? Yeah, manga is Anime is animated, right? Manga is a comic book.

14:46 Okay? And I always why I always worry that, I'm going to say whatever the name of the porn one is has had 10 times. Yeah, Aunt, I don't say that. All right, do not do not support attack. This is one of the best friend I ever real. My gosh, I love it. Okay. Is this movie's supposed to be like a Japanese manga or anime that just happens to be live-action? Like do these people actually have real powers, are they actually fighting? Or are we just watching like a Fantastical version of something that's happening in the real world? In this kind of drab setting that is like a heightened imagined version of what's going on. I would Lean towards the second one. I know that this is written.

15:40 Hmm. I did a little bit of research for this and by this, I mean to fax in the falsehood obviously. And in that research I learned that this isn't necessarily a manga. I don't believe it was written in Japan. I believe it was not written. Yeah. In the US or in Canada, I would guess maybe in Canada because it is like set. In Canada, the actual graphic novel. And so I believe that it's just a world where Scott Pilgrim has been living a normal life and it is thrown upside down by this girl Ramona and now he has superpowers kind of hmm maybe yeah I'm just I'm just along for the ride man.

16:28 I'm just letting it be. I'm not asking too many questions clearly cause I'm asking too many. So we're balancing out here because because like Halfway through this movie, not even halfway, I texted you and I was like, man, I am not digging this thing and you were like, don't worry it gets better. But then you also said, you know, for a guy that really likes Eternal Sunshine, I thought that you would be in on this movie a little more than you seem to be, and that's fair. I think Eternal Sunshine is a pretty good comparison. I think an even better comparison would be 500 Days of Summer, which is a movie that I really, really like. But in that movie, especially I don't want to say that like I sound like I'm advocating for like a really simplistic spoon-fed version of this movie where the director tells me now, this is the real world, and this is what he's imagining. I mean I was thinking it.

17:17 I was. Yeah. I mean it's true. It's true. I just, I really struggle with trying to understand what are the actual rules of this movie is Brandon Routh actually punching this small girl hard enough in the face. That he knocks the highlights out of her hair. Like what? What is going on with the violence on screen? I'm really, really struggling with this. I mean, I Bob, I'm gonna be honest with you. I did not expect you to take this movie so serious. Like, I don't take it. So see, that's the thing is, I don't want to think about this movie anymore that I have to, but it's just bothering me. Yeah, I mean, what do you have? When you have Brandon route, punching a small Asian girls highlights out of her hair.

18:03 I think at a certain point you just go like, oh, this is just, this is just a comic book movie like like, everything's just thrown against the wall to see what sticks. I mean, like, even if I had been watching this movie with sheer boredom and my eyes glaze over to that point, like he hits his girl in the face so hard that her highlights fly against the wall, like splattered brains. And you know, my head kind of cocked to the side and I was like, huh, what's going on here? I just thought I think this movie is so, so funny and like, that is what are the perfect moments of the movie where you're just like, I don't know, I guess this is probably the epitome of a movie where you're either in or you're like way out. And I really like that about the movie. Like honestly, I like it.

18:50 When a movie is it doesn't allow you to sit on the fence either. It's committed, it's committed, but it's also made with such a singular Vision that you're either on board. Or you're not, and there is no in between and I think I mean clearly you can tell where I'm falling on this, but that doesn't mean I don't respect the movie. Well, that's what I that's why I love the fact that we're doing these director miniseries because I think it gives us a chance to really flesh out who these directors are. And like, when you look at Edgar Wright, I think that Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is like a perfect example of of his very strong style and vision.

19:33 And I think it's an example of how, you know, there's certain directors that we watched like a Scorsese. We're like, when you watch a Scorsese film, you know, you have just watched Martin Scorsese. The master of modern Cinema. Yeah, right. And like, I think that some people can look down on a director like Edgar Wright, who just I think he is as singularly unique and focused in his vision as somebody like Scorsese. He just does it with a lot Zane. Your Concepts and he does it with things like Shaun of the Dead, and baby driver. And, and these graphic novels, and it's just wild and crazy. And for me, I've just not seen an Edgar Wright movie that I wasn't at the just had a lot of fun with.

20:20 It's definitely a fun movie, I'll give it that. And I think it's really interesting because the order that we recorded our recent episodes, you know, there's been an episode in between silence and this one, but we, the last episode You and I recorded together was silence. And in that episode, we talked about how it seems on the surface, like silence is an anomaly in scorsese's catalog because it's, you know, I mean, it came after Wolf of Wall Street, and Wolf of Wall Street, share so much in common with Goodfellas and casino. And that's what you think of when you think Scorsese, but when you really dig beneath the surface, all the themes are still there. And I think it's kind of similar with this movie. We're going to do baby driver next week. And honestly, baby driver might be the Lee of Edgar Wright's career to this point. Because so many of his movies are about the growing up process and finding a clever metaphor for these, you know, young or middle-aged men, finally coming to their senses and growing up. And so I think this movie really does have a lot in common with Shaun of the Dead with the world's end with Hot Fuzz it's just made stylistically a little bit differently and so that's what threw me off.

21:31 You know, when it comes when it comes to Like a surface level reading but beneath the surface, all those things are still there. And I feel like you're talking yourself into a higher score as we speak. I don't even have to do anything, you know. Nope, don't worry. The rug will get pulled out in about 30 minutes here. Let's talk about the performances here. Do you want to start in the periphery with somebody like Anna Kendrick's or do you just want to jump to Michael? Cera and Mary Elizabeth Winstead? Let's go to my boy. Mikey see. Mikey see, Mikey, see what up? What up? My favorite Gifts of all time is when he walks in and just crumbles onto the floor asleep, with his book bag on, I really like Michael Cera and he's a very good actor and he's under rated for what he does.

22:20 And I think part of the problem with Michael Cera is like he can only do that or to this point. He has only been turned loose to do that, but there's also really nobody else that can do that. I know for a long time. People put him up side by side with Jesse Eisenberg, but they're very different actors and Michael, Sarah's just comic, abilities are Tip-Top and there's so, so good. Like I God, can you just think about reversing Michael Cera and Jesse Eisenberg in their 2010 movies. My gosh, Michael Cera in The Social Network, I'm just thinking about the opening scene from The Social Network and how vastly different it with me.

23:08 I wish I could do it Michael Cera impression, but I got nothing. Yeah. He's a very specific actor. To say the least. I just think about him in Superbad, which I think is just forever going to be Peak. Michael Cera for me, even more than Juno and the scene in Superbad, where the guys are at that party and they asked him to sing, but he's it's so awkward. And, oh, I just, I love him so much and that movie, and he's really good here. I think my issue is that I don't like Scott Pilgrim that much. Like, I don't like that character. He's not a good person. And the end of the movie, is him, realizing that he's not been a good person, and that's all fine and good.

23:49 But it was hard for me to continue watching the movie because he was such an obtuse person that it gave the movie like no. Sense of forward, momentum to me, and like, obviously it has tons of forward momentum because you have Edgar Wright like whooshing, the camera around everywhere. But do you understand what I'm saying? Like, I think he was really good in the movie, but playing a character that that had so few redeeming qualities that I almost didn't care. Yeah, I mean, I understand where you're coming from. I remember at the very start of the film when they're at band practice and he makes a comment about like why he's dating knives. And he's like, Go.

24:29 Like we're like just dating because she's a girl and I want to date a girl, and, and it's just this Awkward Moment of like, oh, this guy is shallow and has no character. And so I was with you at that point, but I think that the rest of the movie develops a sense of like oh this isn't just a shallow Guy, this is a guy who got his heart, just utterly crushed by Brie Larson, who's really struggling with putting the pieces of his life back together. Like honestly, The thing for me about this film that really worked, was The Supporting Cast like the way his roommate reacts when Envy calls him, or when somebody else, you know, says her name in in Scotts presents, like you can tell that his friends are all kind of sarcastic a holes but they genuinely care about Scott which a gives me the impression that Scott has been a good guy throughout the years.

25:24 And B gives me the impression that he's really struggling right now and they're trying to kill care for him as best as they can. And so I guess those pieces for me, helped move his character Arc along to the point in the movie where he literally gets the powerful weapon of like self-respect. And that's like the culmination of his character Arc. I actually thought he had a really nice character Arc and beyond that, I'm with you two hundred percent on his comedy like the moment when and this is partially Edgar Wright, just using the camera while, but the moment and knives comes and knocks on the door. And his roommate Wallace goes to answer it and he like, kind of moves the camera with the doorway to put Michael Cera out of the picture and then he jumps through the window and reaches back in and grabs his coat. I just it's moments like that.

26:17 Where I'm like, this movie is just brilliant and I love what they're doing. All right, so on the other side of things, you have Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Ramona. I think she's fantastic in this movie. I also will say that I spent a good portion of this movie, saying to myself. Why does she look so familiar to me? And I mean, Mary Elizabeth Winstead is a, I would say, semi famous actress. Like, she's been in some movies, but it's because her character reminded me so much not of another character played by the same actress, but of Lizzie kaplan's character from Mean Girls. And I was like, oh, they look almost exactly alike when you put the next to each other and it really threw me off for a while.

26:59 Because I spent, I had say, 15 minutes. Maybe being like, have I seen this movie? She seems really familiar, man. I have not seen Mean Girls since high school. Yeah. So I have no memory of that film. Okay. Well then you could just agree with me. Tell me. I'm right. Yeah, you're probably wrong and we'll just leave it at that. No, I love Mary Elizabeth Winstead in this. I think that she is the perfect counterbalance to Michael Cera in this because all of his, his compatriots are just wildly over played in the in the most perfect way and she plays such a calm, cool collected character that moves to a place of uncertainty and the more you get to know her alongside our protagonist, the more you realize like she's Is the broken hurting young girl.

27:56 Trying to find her way in the world as well. I just think that her character has a really beautiful way of engaging with Scott and kind of drawing him forward out of his place of depression and struggle. And I think that Mary Elizabeth Winstead does a really phenomenal job of highlighting her own struggle while she's looking to Scott for something new in her life. And I thought she did Killer job here man. One thing that this movie really does have going for it though. Is that it? It includes I'd say a dozen up-and-coming actors who all went on to have incredible careers after this film. Even some of the actors that are lesser known by the general public like, Alison Pill.

28:43 I mean, they've all had incredible careers in Indy movies and and and smaller films to the point where I'm watching the opening credits and I'm like, oh my gosh, how did they ever Word, all these people and it's just because they hadn't really blown up yet. Yeah, I mean you have Aubrey Plaza in here. You have Anna Kendrick even I don't know if he's really ever blown up but Macaulay Culkin's, brother Kieran Culkin. So we are not a we're not a TV podcast but he is on probably the most popular TV show in the world right now called succession on HBO. He's one of the main characters in that. So if you know, I think his character's name is Roman on that I've never watched succession, but I've always wanted to but yeah. So He's even, you know, thrust himself to the for of public Consciousness now, it's crazy.

29:28 How many people Chris Evans is in this movie? I mean, you know, to the point where even in the scene, where the vegan police break in. But both of those guys are like, really famous actors in terms of like having done a ton of stuff. One of them is Thomas Jane who played The Punisher. The other one is a character actor, named Clifton Collins jr. Give he gave one of my favorite performances of the century. Back in 2005 in the movie Capote. Like it was just it's so cool to see the people that keep popping up in this movie. And the roster is so deep by just, you're going to give this movie like a five and a half or a six and say just every single nice thing in the world about it and I'm just going to be I'm just letting you know, now I'm going to be flabbergasted well in order to steer out of that conversation because we will get final scores later on.

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32:01 You know, again like I said, at the price point, there's not a lot of really pretty bottles out there and I think that, like, you could look at this bottle and say, oh, that looks kind of gimmicky. But again, like, if you're only buying whiskies in the 35 dollar price range, like, this is one of the best looking ones, you can get to put on your shelf, so just from the get-go, I'm going to say puncher's chance. Great job on your packaging. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of times it's like a company will do just a good enough job to make me suspicious of the product with it. But this one I'm like, you know what, I just that's just a cool bottle and I'm totally in. I don't for some reason I don't feel like they're trying to pull the hood over us. So, puncher's chance is owned by a distillery in Eugene. Oregon called wolf spirit Distillery. But what is in the bottle is actually sourced whiskey. It's why it's called a Kentucky Straight Bourbon whiskey. It does not say where it is sourced from but there is A company that's been set up in Bardstown, Kentucky called puncher's chance bourbon.

32:58 So they're sourcing it from somewhere in Bardstown. Probably this clocks in at 90 Proof. So Brad, it's a little bit softer and lighter than what we've been doing for a majority of the season so far, but I'm excited to get into it. I have really, really enjoyed this as, I've had it before. I, it's been a few months since I've gone back to this bottle, I'm excited to see where it takes me this time. Yeah, I tried this when we got it a little while ago, and remember thinking like man, 30 bucks this. This is like a solid poor and then today, as I got into it again, the the nose here Bob is is just this like really nice like movie popcorn, butter like not popcorn itself but like the butter that you put on it, it's just very rich. And then there's a lots of nice vanilla and caramel. It has a nice pleasant nose but nothing that like stands out for it.

33:47 So I'll give it a 7 out of 10 on the nose. It's often hard to distinguish for me. What? And of sweetness, I'm picking up on a bourbon, you know, like we sometimes we say honey, sometimes we say, caramel or brown sugar and sometimes it's just kind of vaguely sweet. This one I will say does a really good job of and I mean this as a compliment almost having like an artificial sweetness to it on the nose. Like it almost, it smells like cotton, candy or mum will gum like a powdery like when you unwrap a stick of pink Bubblegum and it has that powder on the outside of it. That's what I pick up on the nose here and I get how you're You're picking up some of that popcorn butter, but for me, the thing that's really just kind of hitting me as I put my nose in this, is that Dusty bubble, gum, or cotton candy smell.

34:33 I like it a lot. I'm gonna give it a seven and a half on the nose. It's kind of like that like the Big League Chew. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Oh man, that takes me back. The palette here is like I'm going to just copy what you said Bob. It's like kind of pleasantly generically sweet. It's We got that buttery notes still going on for me. The most complex thing I got was that there's a few hints of like peanut kind of throughout. But yeah it's just a really nice above average bourbon so far. It's been seven out of ten. Yeah, man, and it's easy to drink. It doesn't seem watered down.

35:13 If there is something I'm going to knock it for its that the mouth feels kind of thin, but it has a lot of that peanutty. Kind of flavor to it. It reminds me of some Heaven Hill products. I'm not To go as far as to say that, I think this is Heaven Hill, but it reminds me of some of those products. I really like this a lot. If it wasn't for that thin mouthfeel, I think my score might be even higher here, but the alcohol makes itself known and it's also not harsh. And so it has a really nice balance to it on the palette. I'm going to give it a heck. I'll give it an 8 out of 10. Yeah. And then we get to the finish for me, the finishes where the struggles just a little bit. It's kind of short, it's a little bit Okie. There's It's a vanilla going on some of that butteriness comes through but there's not a lot of spice, they're not a lot of depth on the Finish.

36:02 It's still solid but I'll jump down a little bit. Give it a six out of ten. Yeah I'm gonna give it a six and a half. I'm kind of with you. There is just a touch of an almost like herbal or Piney thing going on on the back of my palate here, that was just slightly unpleasant. But like I said, there's not a ton of alcohol burn even though the alcohol makes it so L've known. I like this finish for the most part, but I'm going to give it a six and a half. Yeah, and the balance, this is a decently balanced, whiskey. I'll give it a six and a half. The, the big the big struggle is that there's nothing really that pops with the flavor, but there's nothing that stands out poorly for me either, so it's pretty solid. Yeah, I'm gonna give it a seven and a half on the balance and again, it might be because I already know what the cost of this is and so I'm being kind of light on it, but I mean, again, like we always keep in mind the value of this and I think when we get to the value, I'll reflect this a little bit better, but this is a really solid whiskey for the price and it comes in really cool packaging. So it's like, you know, it's like a double bonus. I'm going to give it a seven and a half on the balance. Yeah.

37:12 And then we're at the value category. Bob, we already said it. This bottle cost $30 and I think I'll give it a 7 out of 10 like this is like a really solid value. For just an all-around. Nice bourbon. Yeah, I'm also going to give it a 7. It's yeah. Everything you said is correct. I'm not. I have nothing to add to it. Really solid Pleasant. I'm going to forget that. I drink this in about 15 minutes but it's okay because it was a really good experience while it lasted, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I'm coming to a 33.5 out of 50. Bob, where you at? I'm going to 36.5 which frankly I think is a little too high for this. I was probably a bit. It's by the fact that it is only a 30 dollar bottle of whiskey. But again, I don't regret giving it that score either. There was nothing about this that I would call a negative experience whatsoever.

38:04 Yeah, normally we would say that 35 out of 50 is where we would stick for, you know, a recommendation, I'm actually I'm going to recommend you, buy a bottle, don't buy it. If you're out at the bar because honestly, just spend an extra 25 bucks and get yourself a really cool-looking bottle with a really solid. Be inside that you could pour for anybody. So yeah, you're right. 35 is exactly where we're coming out on this. I too am going to recommend buying and yeah and I will say not trying. Like you said, it's not really worth getting a poor of it at the bar. Just go ahead and drop the 30 bucks. I don't know. You agree with me on that. Yeah, 100%. All right. Yeah, so two thumbs up from Bob and Brad here on puncher's, chance bourbon. Let's just be honest.

38:49 Bob, this is a kick-ass bottle. It's really, it's really cool. How many of our points were Awarded on bottle alone, man. The fact that the whiskey inside is like solid. Like, I'd give it like a b-minus to be range whiskey inside with really, freaking cool packaging. I'm so old man, I'm in. Well, speaking of things that are like as see wrapped around a be packaging. Let's get back into talking about Scott Pilgrim vs. The World. What do you think? You literally just change my words Bob but I suppose we can get back into it. Today's sponsor is a little bit of a departure from our usual area of expertise. And man, oh, man, I was blown away by their product. Once we received it, I am talking about manscaped. Now, if you're like me at all, you probably seen the manscaped ads and kind of Wonder to yourself like, do I really need like some sort of specialty trimmer to take care of my downstairs business?

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40:43 Yeah, you know what else? I'm a big fan of. I'm going to say this movie, two facts in a falsehood to facts and a falsehood. See what I did, I led you astray there and you gets the wrong answer. Also known as Bob's weekly Slaughter so far, it has felt that way I believe. I am two and six. On the season now, somewhere, around there Bob. Yeah likes yikes. Yeah, it's it's it's just a great time. I'm having a blast with it. Let me tell you this real quick. I went back and I looked at Adam drivers, IMDb because your question was phrased, this was Adam drivers first film since midnight special and he lost over 40 pounds for the role. Yeah, so we already established that. If he lost over 60 pounds then he lost over 40 pounds. So I'm correct their Midnight Special was was filmed in 2014 and not released until 2016 silence. Got filmed that fall and the movie that came out in between the two of them was not filmed until the following year. So it was in fact his first film since Midnight Special. There you go.

41:51 I was wrong. I might take the point. Yeah, I think you can that amount of work you've done. I will go to Great Lengths to prove my rightness, I'm proud of you, man. All right, Brad. Let's get into two facts. In a falsehood where Brad presents three items to me as fact, and I have to decide which one is completely bogus. Fax number one whenever the moon in this movie is shown it is full and there is a hole in it. Ramona's, third, boyfriend, Todd Ingram. The psychic vegan is mentioned in a flashback to have punched a hole there for her. When they dated in the graphic novel. He also punches a second hole in the moon 4nb Adams. Nice fax.

42:33 Fax number two, Zack Snyder. Fresh off his Smash Hit, just impeccable. Masterpiece Watchman was approached to direct an adaptation of the Scott Pilgrim comic. But a few years later, an interview, he said, and I'm quoting Scott. Pilgrim wasn't exactly in my wheelhouse and instead directed a movie called Legends of the Guardians of Ga'Hoole. That's true. He did do that movie. Hmm. Fact, number three, originally, the film only had a short title card at the beginning. However, legendary director Quentin, Tarantino suggested to Edgar Wright, really late into post-production, that there should actually be like a pre-title credit sequence.

43:22 That could almost be like a prologue of sorts that introduced the audience to the characters Edgar Wright. Thought was a phenomenal idea and went with it, and that is what we have in the movie now. Mmm. Once again, man. Really good job on this. Thank you. Huh. I Zack Snyder thing is throwing me because I really didn't like Watchman. So this tells me that maybe Zack Snyder. Maybe this wasn't Zack, Snyder's will house because he makes movies. I don't like, so this would have been, it would have been right in line with the Zack Snyder, dude. I knew nothing about Watchman and some of my friends in high school were like, hey, let's go watch this comic book movie and I was like, yeah, sure why not like at all the sudden there's just just Lou, you know what's around us everywhere?

44:14 Just real blue. Genitals, so Zack Snyder. I didn't even mean to make this a Zack Snyder thing. We're never going to do is X matter movie, on this podcast, probably but never never ever Zack Snyder, makes movies for people who have never thought deeply about anything. And he makes them with just enough style that they seem deep to those people and those people only Bob you do know that we're like monetizing now, and there might be some people in our audience that like him and you'd probably like, I should, I should be. All right. Yeah, too many hot chicks today for me, dude.

44:55 I'm with you, man. Like I remember watching 300 and high school and being like, wow, that was like, kind of cool. Like, there's these Spartans killing people and its history and knee, but, but like, looking back on it. I'm like, that was a weird movie, bro. Yeah. And there was like, is really odd subsection of people that thought that it was a masterpiece because it had the look of a masterpiece to people who thought that, that's what a masterpiece should look like, you know what I mean? Think that do you think that they all liked like love Fight Club as well? No comment. All right, so if I think for me, it's either number two or number three, that's the falsehood.

45:36 I don't remember reading anything about Tarantino in regards to this movie, but I also don't remember reading anything. Thing about Zack Snyder, it does seem like they could have approached Zack Snyder about it. I think it's probably more likely that Tarantino had some involvement with this then that Zack Snyder did. So I'm going to say to is the falsehood and that's based on absolutely nothing. Robert. You are 100% correct? Yeah. All right. You got one man. Finally, I tried to throw you a little bit with the the truth that he He directed Guardians of Ga'Hoole. Yeah. Because he did do that. However, he was never approach to this movie, as far as I know.

46:19 I looked it up and it didn't say anything about it. Somebody's going to come at me and be like, boobs. We did talk to him about it but I couldn't find anything online about it. So you're correct. So Brad, as I think about this movie, I have very little left to say, however, and I don't mean that as a - I just like I I didn't think there was much there behind This movie's cool visuals. So I really struggled to find like back half of the episode conversation but I do think that it would be interesting to hear us talk about or to hear you talk about the movies that that are spiritual cousins to this that we've done on the show. So an eternal sunshine or 500 Days of Summer, or even to some extent, like a Walter Mitty, where he's daydreaming about himself and it even kind of reminds me a little bit of the The Beatles musical across the officers, who is sure he'll bit? Yeah, I see, I think I'm thinking more in terms of like that there is a male protagonist who needs to learn how to grow up a little bit or like, come into his own. Yeah.

47:26 And I guess my question to you is like, what makes this a successful, one of those movies and where would you kind of rank it among those films? You know, based on the ones we've watched for the show? Well, definitely not as good as Eternal Sunshine, obviously. Lee, not, not on that level of filmmaking. I think that the reason I really enjoyed this movie is because it's a highly stylized Cinema with a really basic simple, underlying story of like two people who are struggling in the world to understand what love is who have been burned in the past who are like really cautiously dancing around each other throughout.

48:11 The entirety of the film, and by the end of it, they, they realized like, you know what, like, let's give it a shot. Like this is, this is worth a go and I think that, that's a really honest take of what dating looks like in today's culture that there's just so much trepidation and worried about being hurt about how this person will affect my sense of self-esteem. And yeah, I think it's really good. I think the movie too. Talks before it was really popular. It really takes on toxic masculinity, which I know is like a buzz phrase, nowadays, but like, it just flat-out talks about the fact that like Ramona was controlled by a really evil guy. Yeah, who, who's not healthy for her, and she isn't able to be herself around him.

49:07 And so, I think that the battle for her soul, if you could put That way is like really cool to watch because in the midst of Scott, trying to help her, he finds himself and she realizes that she's worth fighting for and that she's not just an object and she's not just, you know, something to be controlled. And so I think in the midst of all of these other movies that we've talked about where it's about, you know, somebody coming up and learning more about them self and, you know, young man, I think that one of the reasons I like this movie is because it's not just the young man. Doing that. It's also the young lady in reality. It's a good. So I yeah. I think I'd put this pretty high up there. Among the movies.

49:49 You said dead, obviously higher than the Eternal Sunshine. What was what was the other one you said on my mind is going blank? 500 Days of Summer Walter Mitty. Yeah. I think I'd put this above both of those. Wow. 500 Days of Summer. Would be the closest. Walter Mitty is just one of the most pretty movies we've ever watched though. Yeah. It's a really pretty. It's just gorgeous. So yeah, I think I'd put this on top all those. I think what we have discovered here is like the alternate universe version of Eternal Sunshine because we are going to come out in like this, this is to you. What Eternal Sunshine is to me and vice versa, like I don't care for this and you really like it. And essentially we were watching the same movie, like, you were, you were very astute in pointing out that these are in many ways. The same film That it's about people trying to forget their exes or get over the damage of their exes. It's about quirky people with colorful hair running around in their own memories or fantasies or whatever. And yeah, you know what?

50:53 I'm realizing as you're saying this. I think that the reason I like this more than Eternal Sunshine because you're, right, it's the exact same movie. Is the fact that this is fun, and Eternal, Sunshine is just really depressing, and I love Eternal Sunshine. Part itself. So, seriously and part of my point was going to be. I love that last scene in Eternal Sunshine and again, that's probably why I, like the end of this movie so much better than the rest of it. Is that, you know, it mirrors the end of Eternal Sunshine where Kate Winslet goes to Jim Carrey's character and says like, hey, why would you even want to get back together with me? We don't even remember each other at this point. I'm probably going to do a bunch of effed up, things and make you angry, and make you hate me.

51:38 And he just Shrugged his shoulders and says, okay. And then she goes, okay and they decide to try it again. And like that is, I mean, again, it's essentially exactly what happens in the end of this movie. So, we're talking about mirror images of each other here. And Jim Carrey is Canadian. No. There it is. And this movie set in Canada. So they're twins. All right, man, I think that it's time for final scores. Do you want me to get mine out of the way? First, or do you want to shed some positivity here before I come in with? Hard fist of reality. Give your crappy score Bob, go for it. I think that until the last 20 minutes of this movie, I was prepared to say that my enjoyment level of the film was like a three even while acknowledging like hey this is better made than a 3 but I just don't think any of it works. So I'm trying to hedge a little bit here. I'm going to say, I'm going to give it a 5 and a half out of ten.

52:41 And I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. Less than that. Like I have enjoyed it like a four point five out of ten, but I think that it is still well made enough to begrudgingly say that it's just above the Midway point for me. Is it just your bitterness towards like video games and the fact that you got left behind so long ago, I'm just I'm really curious what I don't know. There's there's some bitterness there somewhere but I haven't like mind. Core of it yet. So well well well do that in our next counseling session? Bob. Absolutely I'll give this an 8 out of 10 Bob like it's, it's solid. It's funny. Yeah dude.

53:23 Some of the lines in this like when Ramona and Scott are just having a conversation about garlic bread and Scott's like I would eat this literally all the time. If I could and Ramona's like, well, then you get fat. He's like, why would I get fat? She was because bread makes you fat hit the way. Way. Michael Cera responds with bread makes you fat and then boom, cut your on to the next scene. Like it's just a perfect moment to exemplify what Edgar Wright does as a director. And yeah, I think it's the perfect illustration of like, why I love this movie. It's kind of just inane and there's a lot of it that feels like it's not building towards anything. And yet by the end of the film, you are moved by the story that he has told, and I really enjoy that. Is a movie, I could come back to every like two or three years and just have a few good laughs and enjoy it. All right, so we're coming out to an average of a six point five out of ten, but we'd like to know what you think. If you've seen Scott Pilgrim, if you want to rake me over the coals, you can find us on social media, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and new Leon Tick-Tock at film whiskey. You can also find us on Discord.

54:34 If you've never heard of Discord before, it is a really simple platform where you can just chat and talk to only the people you You want to talk to ma'am? We need to get Discord to some sponsor the show, right? Some point because we love it. Why? I'm such a huge fan. It's a, it's a tight-knit community of only the people you want to be in communication with. So jump on our Discord. It's a really fun. As I said before, it's really fun little corner of the internet. That's pretty uplifting. We have a good time there. You can find a link to our Discord. At the end of every single one of our show notes. Next week, we'll be back talking about baby driver. One of the first movies Brad and I ever bonded over. I'm really excited to revisit that one, even though it's cast is now a Minefield of of cancellations. So we will talk about star Jamie Foxx in that movie next week. Yes.

55:27 But and only talk about an only Jamie Foxx, but until then I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and we'll see you next time.