Sabrina / Johnnie Walker Blender's Batch Wine Cask Blend

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In 1954 director, Billy Wilder

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and star.
Audrey Hepburn, gave the world.

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A touching rom-com that dives
deeper than expected in 2023.

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We try a scotch whiskey.
That's a mouthful of a name, but

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isn't a mouth full of flavor.
The film is Sabrina.

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The whiskey is Johnnie Walker
blenders batch and wine, cask

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blend.
I literally almost started

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halfway through that and we'll
review them both.

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This is the film, and Whiskey
podcast,

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welcome to the film and whiskey
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Where each week, we review a
classic movie and a glass of

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whiskey.
I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and

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this week Brad is a milestone
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It's the first time we've been
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we are coming to you from Brad's

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And beautiful Delaware Ohio.
Hmm.

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What a?
What a great place Bobby I'm

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telling you, you should move
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Is this where we make the big
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If you don't move here then I'm

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not going to do the podcast
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Wow.
All right, so it's a milestone

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episode because it is the last
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Folks, you're welcome Hooman,
whiskey Nation.

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So, today we are rounding out
our mini series of films by

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director Billy Wilder.
We started with Sunset

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Boulevard.
Last week, we looked at Stalag

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17 and this week we are looking
at Sabrina.

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So we did back-to-back-to-back
William Holden.

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Billy Wilder, collaborations
also back-to-back-to-back movies

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that start with the letter s.
Wow, I didn't think about that,

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you know, this is why he pay me
the big.

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This is why this is a milestone
episode where so many things.

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All right, so we kind of talked
talked about this a little bit,

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you know, both with Sunset
Boulevard and Stalag 17, that

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Wilder is a very versatile
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And his his film span from
really Bleak film Noir to really

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biting kind of satire to kind of
frothy rom-coms.

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I think that it would be wrong
to call this movie A frothy

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rom-com because it does have
some kind of Darker Billy Wilder

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under currents running through
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Multiple attempted suicides, you
know, no big deal, you know,

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moving on as you do.
But I have to say, I really

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enjoyed the overall palate
cleanser that this movie was

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yeah.
After Sunset Boulevard, I think

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Stalag 17, had a had a nice feel
to it and it was decently funny

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but there's still some elements
of it that didn't quite work for

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me.
Sabrina is an incredible movie

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Bob.
Yeah, Here's, I'm not going to

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bury the lead on this one, Brad.
I have only seen this movie.

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I think maybe once before, and I
think it kind of gets lost in

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the shuffle, in my mind of, like
40s and 50s romantic comedies,

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especially, since it comes just
a year.

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After Audrey, Hepburn's debut,
performance in Roman Holiday.

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And I think I've kind of
confused these two movies, a

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little bit in my mind.
And so, it was really cool to

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revisit this one after, I don't
know how long it's been almost

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20 years.
Probably, since I've seen this

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movie.
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Here's my my big leadoff
question, Brad.

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Is this a perfect movie?
Because I watched this movie and

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I have pretty much no notes on
the script and, you know, the

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I'll get into talking about
Wilders Direction and the camera

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work.
But this is right up there for

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me with the apartment and Double
Indemnity as maybe my new one of

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my new favorite Wilder films.
Bob that could not make me any

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happier because this is a film
that I watched growing up

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multiple times.
Have always Really, really loved

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and was so excited to see that.
You had put on the list for the

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season.
Like this, this would feel like

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if you just put charade randomly
in the podcast, I would be like

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freaking out.
But you know, of course, it took

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me forcing you to let me choose
half movies for a season to get

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that on the list.
That's okay.

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Not bitter about it.
But I'm very glad that you chose

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Sabrina because this is a
daggone good movie.

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It is so good and before we get
into talking about Sabrina, Want

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to say Brad you know, every once
in a while we talk about what

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seems like my very scattershot
approach to putting movies on

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the list.
Would you like to hear a little

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bit of the film and whiskey
selection strategy that I

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totally know all about?
Because I'm half of the show.

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Yeah, I mean, the people need to
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Oh yes, this is about democracy.
All right, so we've gotten

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through, I would say a majority
of the movies that are on the

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American Film institute's top
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At this point, we still have
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But as I look at the movies that
we really still need to tackle

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that I would consider like
anyone who watches Classic

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Movies needs to see these
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We're getting to a point where
there's like a random one by

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this director in a random one
with this star and it's either

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like let's schedule a whole
season of just completely random

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movies.
Or let's try to put some

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semblance around this and I
think with Sabrina and movies

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like Stalag 17, they're not on
the AFI list but they're helping

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us round out what I think would
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You know, program of movies for
anyone to see by a director and

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in a lot of cases, these are
movies that are kind of hovering

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around the bottom of the IMDb
top 250 like it would be really

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cool if we got got, you know,
and some point got around to

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watching most of the top 250.
Let's so like this is a really

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well regarded movie.
It's not often talked about

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among Wilders best but I think
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discussed here.
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And like you said, the the
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the script.
And then, when you layer in

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Wilders, willingness to allow
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where, you know, there's a
certain point at the start of

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the film where I looked my
friend.

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Stephen was like, dude, how many
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there to be 4 to 5 minutes of
their movie happen without a

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single line of dialogue?
And yet Wilder, does that two or

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three times throughout?
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Absolutely.
So I yeah, I'm with you, man.

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I'm excited to get into it.
All right, well, let's get into

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it then.
And then that starts with our

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first segment of the day,
America's favorite segment,

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which we call Brad explains
Brad's gonna give us the movie

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plots with only 60 seconds
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So let's go ahead and do you
take with this little segment

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that we call Brad explains?
Brad explains is the part of the

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podcast where Brad breaks down
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We have just watched and usually
a see that he has just watched

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for the first time.
Now, as we know, this was not

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his first time seeing Sabrina
Brad.

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How many times you think you've
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This was probably somewhere in
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would be my guess because I know
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mid-20s with my wife and I
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four times as a kid.
So probably in that five six,

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maybe seven times area that's
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Brad giri.
Watch ya.

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All time list.
Yeah.

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It's nowhere near.
I can hand Lions.

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But, you know, I mean it, what
can we could be near land?

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Such the greatness.
That is, I'm gonna guess that

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I've seen Secondhand Lions 20
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Wow, I think the director of
Secondhand Lions hasn't even

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seen that I can handle.
I know he's, he's probably

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hasn't.
All right folks.

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Well, we know that Brad knows
this movie inside and out now

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and that means that it's time
for him to break down the plot

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Brad.
You have 60 seconds on the clock

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to break this down.
And again this is a spoiler

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filled discussion of the movies.
Sabrina, if you have not seen

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Sabrina, I would highly
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because this might be Even at
the end of the season, Brad I

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might recommend this movie
higher than any other movie.

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Mmm, that is just who does this
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Not work for ya, I'm not sure.
Maybe people who don't like

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capitalism.
All right, commies.

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You got to check out at this
point but for everyone else,

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Brad, you have one minute on the
clock and go.

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The film Sabrina centers around
a family, extraordinarily,

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wealthy family, called the
larabee's and their chauffeur.

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His daughter named Sabrina, she
is has her entire life, been

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interested in the younger.
Son of the Larrabee Clan played

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by William Holden and she goes
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And when she comes back, the
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her, but his notice is not
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family as they're trying to
marry him off for political and

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power gain as they're trying to.
Do a merger to make a lot of

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money?
So with this marriage on the

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Rocks, Humphrey Bogart, the
older brother begins to take

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Sabrina out on some dates,
trying to get her to fall in

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love with him so that he could
ship her off back to France and

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seconds and get William Holden
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that he picked for her.
But as usual things, go awry.

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Hmm, that's Sabrina folks.
That's it baby.

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Brad, where do you want to
start?

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Because I have nothing but
praise for this movie.

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Like I'm just going to be a
broken record.

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Movie works perfectly for me.
I am shocked that I have not

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Revisited it in so long because
it is just, it works like

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gangbusters.
And I have many nice things to

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say about Billy Wilder and about
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So let's go wherever you want,
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Yeah, let's start.
I mean, you already pointed it

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out.
Let's start with the script and

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then move into the performances.
So this script is co-written by

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Billy Wilder and to other people
because it is an adaptation of a

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play called Sabrina fair.
This was a pretty successful

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play on Broadway.
Ed way that wilder than adapted

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and it's hard for me to know
Brad because I've never seen or

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read the script to Sabrina Fair.
What parts of this script are

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completely Wilder inventions and
which ones are not?

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But from a structural standpoint
I think this is like you could

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teach the structure of this in
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It like it is, it has everything
you want from multiple love

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interests and a love triangle to
complicating issues in the

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second half of the movie where
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the guy has Her back and
everything from dramatic moments

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to really light-hearted almost
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It just the way it unfolds even
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in the funny moments.
I want to talk about the

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structure of it because I don't
know that I would change a

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single thing about the way this
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As I say, the only movie we've
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the, in the rom-com.
Space would be When Harry Met

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Sally.
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And I guess I'd ask, would you
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Like, it feels like When Harry
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modern rom-coms, would you say
that this did the same in 1954?

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I mean, it's hard to say that
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history of romantic comedies,
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But I think, you know, it's kind
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history of punk, rock bands,
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and the Sex Pistols perfected,
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It, I think this might just be
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script gets perfected in Classic
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There is even elements of it for
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that Billy Wilder is referencing
Shakespeare here.

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I think that this is like a
Romeo and Juliet when she finds

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the two tickets to the ship, and
it really reminded me of that

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ending of Romeo and Juliet
where, you know, one of them

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wakes up and sees the others
poison and then they drink the

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poison and then the other one
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themselves.
It's just like, there's a

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complicating issue here.
Surrounding this kind of

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MacGuffin thing that you only
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Yeah, I'm glad you brought up
Shakespeare because I feel Feel

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like this almost has a case of
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even though I like everybody
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when Humphrey Bogart kisses
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her like, well, we're just
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See, like, what's that?
Is that your Bogart?

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That I think that was more of a
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Jimmy Stewart, being Edwards.
V Robinson.

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Yes.
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That's what I was shooting for.
Thank you, very little, you

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nailed it, man.
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want to keep it in the family,
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I'm in love with David, the
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order to get to him and it just
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feel about it and I think that's
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that can stand the test of time.
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know, the obvious read on this
movie is What if we took the

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Cinderella story and put it in
1950s America and it's not that

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it follows the same beats of
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like you start off with the you
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like waifish girl who then goes
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ball and comes back and then at
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But what I love about this movie
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beets and the majority of the
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after Sabrina comes back from
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Now everyone's interested in
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flaw to the movie, I wish there
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Like, I don't know that once a
condemnation but I wish that

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they had dulled a little bit
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Why does everybody only want me
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Now that I'm pretty now that I'm
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Dives back into wanting to be
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the entire layer.
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That it's almost like we as the
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because she is so clearly
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that it never really comes back
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I do wish that Wilder had gone
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like, Sunset Boulevard to
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Those rich people in this a
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Yeah, I think that he sets
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the sense that Sabrina is such.
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want to apply 2023 standards to
a movie 1954 but she just, she

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just as a silly young child who
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love interest.
And even when she comes back

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after two years, and in the
quote unquote world and learning

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about herself and like growing
and maturing, and then Falls

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immediately back into her bad
habits, if he well, and I think

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that's For me, is the weakest
part of the film that I wish she

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had a little more gumption and
let Spa by the end, you know,

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when she comes back and it
stands up for herself but I

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don't know man.
And even the way William Holden

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plays it it's almost as if she
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And so there's certain parts of
his role that feels slap sticky

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and I'm not sure how I feel it.
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the movie, especially See, when
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Bogart, who just looks angry,
that anything is not making him

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money.
So here's the thing, like I feel

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like our read on the script is
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performances but I want to go
back just for a second to what

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you're saying about William
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with his character, I think is
pretty emblematic with the

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script, which is that it has a
lot of big reveals about the

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characters, but it never
portrays them as like, haha.

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It's a big reveal.
It comes out, very organically.

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I think for me a lot of those
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with William Holden's character
in particular your read on him

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as a member of the audience for
the first, say, our of the movie

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is that he's just a Playboy and
then he treats every woman as

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disposable and he's just kind of
banging his way across Long

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Island.
And what you come to find out

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about him is that he's actually
just a hopeless romantic and he

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falls in love too easily and
he's been married too many times

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as a result of that, not because
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And in fact, they're very
inconvenient for his family.

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And what I wish they had done
with his character, a little bit

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more is really underline and
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He is not a bad guy.
He is not, I mean, he looks like

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a Playboy, but it's because he's
actually as much of a silly

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romantic as Audrey Hepburn's
character is and I don't know

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that that's necessarily apparent
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Unless you like really pay
attention to that one kind of

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crucial scene where he gets
cornered by his dad and his

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brother and their Trying to get
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I mean I think it's also kind of
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when he returns to the board
meeting because he's such a

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hopeless romantic that he
finally kind of sees outside of

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himself for a moment.
And goes, oh, holy crap, like my

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brother has fallen in love with
this beautiful young woman.

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I'm going to help him accomplish
that in any way that I can, and

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I think that's the moment of
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Where you realize like you said,
he's not Really doing it just

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because he wants to get laid.
He's doing it because he

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genuinely, is yeah, hopeless,
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That's the best way of putting
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Okay.
Before we dive into the

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performances in Earnest, I want
to keep talking about the script

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a little bit because Billy
Wilder is known for having just

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fantastic.
Like, if his scripts were an

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article they'd have the best
pull quotes ever because there's

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just so many great one-liners
and this movie is just full of

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moments.
That made me laugh out loud.

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I thought Some of the one-liners
in this movie, whether they were

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written by Wilder or if they
came from the original play.

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I thought they were just
absolutely perfect and Brad, I'm

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wondering what lines in
particular stood out to you.

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Oh man I love when she's in
Paris and the the older

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gentleman who makes a perfect
soufflé tells her you know he

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guesses that she is unhappily in
love and he says something along

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the lines of like a woman who's
happily in love.

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She burns the Souffle.
But the woman unhappily in love,

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she forgets to turn on the oven
but it's just it's just such a

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clever line that I that really
sticks with me.

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You know.
For me the more I think about

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it, the more I realized that
most of the lines that worked

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perfectly for me come out of
Bogaerts mouth and I don't think

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Bogart really gets enough credit
as a comedic actor because he

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didn't do a lot of straight
comedies and even in the

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comedies he's in he's always
playing kind of like the

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straight man but his timing is
just perfect in some of these

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There's a line towards the end
of the movie where they're in

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that boardroom, and he has
called everyone together because

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he's trying to send his brother
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And so David's fiancé is in the
room and talking about how she

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bought these.
Like, I don't know what it was,

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like, these Hawaiian or
Tahitian, or something cloths.

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And then you just hear him
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I hope they're returnable and
it's just little moments like

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that.
There's a great moment where

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after William.
Holden's character sit.

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He's on a champagne glass and
gets glass all up in his, but

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they have to do, they have to do
surgery on him and there's this

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great visual gag of bogey, gets
a hammock made for him with a

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but cut out of it.
So that his but can sit down in

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the hole.
And as he's helping William

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Holden over to the hammock,
William Holden's.

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Like, you know, I've been trying
to write a poem for Sabrina and

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I can't quite finish it.
What rhymes with glass and

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there's just this giant like ask
cut out of the hammock that they

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It's just lingering there and
Bogaerts, like, how about alas?

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Yep, there's I mean, like, I
could go on, and on, man, the

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lines in this movie are
fantastic.

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Yeah, or when the father is
talking to Linus and Linus is

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something along the lines of
like it, like if you want or

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just take her, like, this is the
20th century and the dad goes,

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the 20th century.
I could pick a better Century

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out of a hat blindfolded.
And it's just, it's clever.

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Its It's funny and even in that
like there's a few really great

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little tiny monologues
especially by her dad.

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Yeah the the chauffeur
Fairchild.

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Like when he's talking about
democracy being a wickedly

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unfair thing and what's the line
after that about nobody poor

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they basically it's like they
never call anyone poor

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Democratic for marrying Rich.
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They only call rich people
Democratic for marrying poor.

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Yes, yeah, exactly.
And Like he just has some really

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insightful lines about the
culture of financial stardom.

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I guess you could say, which is,
if you're anywhere on YouTube,

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nowadays, you see, all the
financial Bros out there.

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I'm like I think we'll Wilder
would have something to say to

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them.
Oh, for sure what I think,

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that's why this movie works on
so many levels for me because

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there is some really biting
satire and not even satire, but

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just kind of really withering.
Auctions about class in this

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movie.
He doesn't go too far into it

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and I think if he did, it would
have taken away from the romance

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of it all.
But there's a moment where it's

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when Audrey Hepburn.
First comes back from Paris, and

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she's gotten her Cinderella
makeover, and she's dancing with

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William Holden out.
You know, behind the house and

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at this party and the mother of
the family comes up and is just

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super dismissive to Sabrina.
And she has this line where she

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says, oh, you'll have to come
over and cook for us sometime.

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And it is Like like as ice as I
watch that I was like you are

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the worst.
That's like her only real moment

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in the movie and you're like,
oh, you suck.

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Yeah, but it works, but I guess
what I'm saying is, I think that

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there's different levels of
Comedy to this movie.

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If you want to look at it as
kind of a dark comedy, there's

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dark comedy stuff in here if you
want to look at it, a satire

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their satire in here and then
there's, you know, visual gags

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where a guy's butt is stuck in a
hammock, like it just, there's a

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moment at the end of the movie.
When Audrey, huh?

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It burn and bogey are in his
office suite and they decide not

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to go out to dinner, and she's
going to cook for him because

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his office has a little
kitchenette and he has this

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throwaway line where he says,
you know, one time my secretary

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tried to cook dinner for the
board of directors and we all

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adjourned after the first the
first item on the list and it

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passed unanimously.
It's a diarrhea joke.

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Yeah.
The dinner passed unanimously?

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Yeah, I love it.
I love that.

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We have put jokes in movies in
1954 here.

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Here's a question for you the
the capitalism speech that that

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Linus gives when he's you know
I'm talking about when he's

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talking to David know which one
so I'll give you some of the

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quote when he's talking about
like a new product has been

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found something of use to the
world.

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So a new industry moves into an
undeveloped area factories go

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up.
Machines are brought in and and

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it ends with saying, you know,
what's wrong with cat?

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The kind of urge that gives
people libraries hospitals,

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baseball diamonds and movies on
a Saturday night.

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Do you think he's seriously like
do you think Wilder is meaning

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that as a critique?
Or I was just curious your feel

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on that line because I don't
know if I've ever heard out of

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Hollywood.
Yeah, which is, you know,

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famously left of center.
I don't know if I've ever heard

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a more Pro capitalism speech.
Yeah, that's a hard one because

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I don't think there's anything
necessarily in that speech that

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Wilder would condemn and
especially like as an immigrant

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like he as much as he kind of
crapped on American culture a

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lot like he bought into it a
little bit.

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However, I do think you got to
kind of trace the character's

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development through that movie
which is at the end of the

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movie.
He cancels a 20 million dollar

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00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,200
merger or tries to write, you
know.

445
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,000
And at the beginning of the
movie, The Way They introduce

446
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,900
him is by saying that he was
voted by his Collegiate peers as

447
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:36,400
most likely to leave his alma
mater, 50 million dollars.

448
00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:40,300
Mmm.
So I do think that Even though

449
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,100
bogie is trying to paint it in
the most positive possible

450
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:47,500
terms, the fact that he ends up
also becoming a hopeless

451
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:50,600
romantic means that, you know,
Wilder doesn't ultimately see

452
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,300
that as like the way to go.
Yeah, love wins out in the end.

453
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:58,900
Bob as it as it always does as
it always does in the movies.

454
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,300
Let's talk about performances,
man.

455
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,500
We're who do you want to start
with you want to start at the

456
00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:06,600
bottom with William Holden or do
you just want to start with

457
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,600
Audrey?
Let's start with Audrey.

458
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,100
We've barely talked about her
and the movies named after her.

459
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:15,000
So, this is, I mean, really
early on, in her film career.

460
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,800
I talked about how she wins an
Oscar for Roman Holiday and then

461
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,500
she makes this movie.
And so Billy Wilder is working

462
00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:25,100
with William Holden who wins the
best actor, Oscar in 53, and

463
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,800
Audrey Hepburn, who wins the
Best Actress Oscar in 53.

464
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,500
And like, this is their big
follow-up.

465
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,500
This is a huge deal like this
movie coming out when it did and

466
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:37,300
I think she is just as good here
as she is in Roman Holiday.

467
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,100
And I've seen a lot of people
kind of comments on this movie

468
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:42,400
that this seems much more slight
and they don't give her as much

469
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,900
to do, but I think it kind of
underestimates who Audrey

470
00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:53,000
Hepburn is and her very specific
appeal that a character.

471
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:59,100
As I don't know, slight as
Sabrina is, mmm is given so many

472
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:02,000
layers through this performance.
I don't think there's anyone

473
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,900
else in Hollywood in 1954.
That could have pulled this roll

474
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:06,600
off.
You could have tried a steak

475
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,300
like a grayscale.
In here but Grace Kelly just

476
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:12,500
doesn't seem like she would
exude that sort of girlishness

477
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:15,000
that this role calls for.
Yeah.

478
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,500
And it has a Grace Kelly is too
polished to play a show for his

479
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:21,900
daughter.
Well, that's a great thing about

480
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:25,100
Hepburn is like she.
She looks incredible in this

481
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:28,300
movie and she looks polished,
but she's also able to walk that

482
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:32,200
fine line of innocence and
girlishness as well, without

483
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,700
making it seem demeaning either.
And I think that's really the

484
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:36,700
key here, because there's a way
to play this.

485
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:39,800
That is like Like I am, did see,
I don't?

486
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,500
I mean I'm I'm behaving as if
I'm 12 and I'm 25.

487
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,800
I think you really do get the
sense that she's a 25 year old

488
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,800
who still has a girlish crush on
somebody but that doesn't make

489
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,300
her stupid.
Yeah, 100% well mostly doesn't

490
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:57,000
make her stupid.
Oh hot chicks.

491
00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:00,600
She tries to kill herself Bob.
Yeah.

492
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,600
Okay let me say you talk about
that or how you kicking back to

493
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,700
the suicide thing.
It's rough man.

494
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:08,400
This year Minutes into the
movie.

495
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,000
It's a very weird statement for
me to make America but, you

496
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,200
know, we've dealt with suicide
and threatened suicide and

497
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000
attempted suicide in a good deal
of Billy Wilder movies at this

498
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,600
point.
Yeah, and it's definitely a

499
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,800
sub-theme for him.
I have to say, though, like, in

500
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,800
a few instances, we've talked
about how those scenes are

501
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,300
supposed to be Darkly funny, not
always, but in some of the

502
00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:34,100
instances they are.
This is the only one where I

503
00:27:34,108 --> 00:27:36,400
feel like it really works on
both levels where there is

504
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,500
another level of Of funniness to
it.

505
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:41,400
Not that the, I mean, the, the
botched suicide attempt itself

506
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,000
is kind of funny, but especially
just seeing her react.

507
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,900
The way a teenage girl would
react which is like, I can't

508
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:50,700
have this guy.
So I'm going to kill myself.

509
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,500
And then she writes this note,
this suicide note that she

510
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:57,400
thinks is like really nice and
Polished and then remembers PS.

511
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,200
Don't invite David to my funeral
and it just it has the energy of

512
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,300
like don't come in my room mom.
Yes, it's so great.

513
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,500
And I think having those touches
where first of all, it's And

514
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:09,100
then it's into the movie.
You know, she's not going to

515
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:12,700
kill herself but I think it adds
to the character a little bit.

516
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:17,200
And so as if I'm power ranking,
Billy Wilder suicide attempts

517
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,400
here, this is this is preferably
and again, here's the weird

518
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,600
quote, this is probably the most
successful suicide attempts in

519
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,100
Billy Wilder.
That's the one we need to pull

520
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:31,600
for the therefore there's the
there's the clip for the airs,

521
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,900
the clip for the episode
ranking, Billy Wilder suicide

522
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:44,400
attempt Here's the thing.
The only reason that her suicide

523
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:51,100
attempt works Fill, in a cinema
graphic sense.

524
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,500
In this film, is the fact that
it actually ends up connecting

525
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:59,500
her with Bogart, whose character
also tried, you know, thought

526
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:04,800
about attempting suicide in, you
know, earlier in his life.

527
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,300
And it, it's one of the best
written moments of connection.

528
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:13,300
I've ever seen in a rom-com,
where, you know, early in the

529
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,400
film.
She tries to kill herself and

530
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,100
Humphrey, clearly knows.
She is trying to kill herself

531
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,700
and yet kind of gives her the
out of say, you know, like kind

532
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:27,700
of making fun of her just a
little bit and very gently and

533
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:30,800
it, he does it in such a way,
that doesn't make sense at the

534
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,900
time until you hit later in the
movie and you find out that he

535
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:39,100
was spurned by someone, he loved
ones, and he also thought about

536
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:41,700
killing himself.
And I think that like really

537
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:47,200
draws the characters together in
a way that is kind of touching.

538
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:51,000
You and you know, it's different
than all of his other movies.

539
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,600
I feel like all of his other
suicide attempts are don't

540
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,700
necessarily add to the movie for
me.

541
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,300
Yeah.
I think especially like Sunset

542
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:02,500
Boulevard.
That's a hard one for me to

543
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:05,500
evaluate because that character
is known for being overly

544
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:08,600
dramatic anyway.
But even in the context of that

545
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,000
movie, it's like, well, this
came out of left field a little

546
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,800
bit and it doesn't always
dramatically work for me.

547
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:18,100
It worked in the apartment, like
it, the apartment, I That is one

548
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:20,600
of the most crucial elements of
that story, that Shirley

549
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,500
MacLaine tries to kill herself.
And, you know, just as an aside

550
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:27,800
Brad, I think that I saw so many
parallels between the way that

551
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,100
Hepburn plays Sabrina and the
way Shirley MacLaine played

552
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:33,000
Frankie Bullock in the
apartment.

553
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,200
Even to the point where, when
she's getting very visibly hurt

554
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,700
by things that are being said to
her.

555
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:43,000
She does the like, almost like
whisper, like I'm internalizing

556
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,600
this and that was something
McLain.

557
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,400
Did you know ten years?
Sorry.

558
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Seven years after This in the
apartment.

559
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,300
So I don't know if it's
something that Wilder is

560
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:53,800
specifically directing.
His female leads to behave that

561
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,000
way but I'll tell you what man
it works really well.

562
00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:00,900
Yeah and and if we can kind of
pull back for half a second, I

563
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:04,600
think it's fascinating.
That Wilder is talking about

564
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,800
such a delicate subject in the
nineteen, you know, 40s and 50s.

565
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,000
Like it's something that our
society struggles to talk about

566
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,600
in 2023.
So, for Wilder, to take on such

567
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,100
a heavy subject.
So much earlier in American

568
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:28,700
society, I think it's really
Brave of him and I guess I'm

569
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,600
curious.
If you think he handles the

570
00:31:30,608 --> 00:31:33,100
subject well throughout his
filmography.

571
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,600
I mean, I think you have to
remember that he kind of has one

572
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,000
foot in the theater and that's
not to say that he was a theater

573
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,900
writer but a lot of his movies
are adaptations of plays and I

574
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,000
think just on the stage, people
love to kill themselves but

575
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,100
yeah, it has no yeah, that's
true.

576
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:52,400
So, there is that element to it,
but I think that he knows when

577
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,800
to use it to really up the
stakes of what's going on in his

578
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,500
movies, whether it's for
dramatic purposes or not, you

579
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:02,500
know, in a movie like the
apartment, no one's going to get

580
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:03,700
murdered.
You're not going to have the

581
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:05,900
double indemnity thing hanging
over you, right?

582
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,100
But the fact that Frank Cuba
like, has been used and tossed

583
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:13,800
around this boy's club and then
she tries to commit suicide.

584
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,400
That's the moment where it
clicks for Jack Lemmon, These

585
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,100
are real humans that I'm like
screwing with their lives right

586
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:20,800
now.
Yeah.

587
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,200
And so I think Wilder knows when
to use suicide and went to

588
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,400
threaten suicide to up the
stakes and for the most part it

589
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,400
really, really works, hmm.
Well, I don't know how to

590
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,500
transition to that from that in
the whiskey.

591
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:38,800
But all right, let's press pause
because we still have to talk

592
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,400
about the two male leads of this
movie.

593
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,000
And I have lots of thoughts on
both of them.

594
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,800
And from what we've said off are
Brad.

595
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,700
It sounds like you do, too.
Yeah.

596
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:48,000
So let's yeah, let's do it.
Let's press pause.

597
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,100
Let's try this Johnnie Walker
blenders.

598
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,800
Batch wine, cask blend.
What do you say?

599
00:32:53,000 --> 00:33:00,900
Let's get to it.
All right, everybody.

600
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:04,900
Today we are drinking Johnnie
Walker blenders batch wine.

601
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:08,300
Cask blend the greatest name for
whiskey that's ever been thought

602
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:11,200
of.
Yes, and ice, ice shortened.

603
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,200
Yeah.
Right to the point, right to the

604
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,400
point.
And I know absolutely nothing

605
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,200
about it.
Bob.

606
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:19,400
Yeah, so here's what I know
about it.

607
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,900
Brad.
I know that it was released in

608
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:25,700
2017 and that I believe it has
now been discontinued.

609
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:29,300
And so, we picked this bottle up
off the shelf in Ohio that they

610
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:31,400
call.
Last call because Ohio don't

611
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,800
sell it no more and it was
marked down and I said, I like

612
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,900
Johnnie Walker.
I like wine, cask Blends, let's

613
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:41,800
pick this, like CH I like
whiskey, that's cheap, you know.

614
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:45,800
So here's the thing sometimes we
will buy these kind of Whiskey's

615
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,600
because it's a win-win like
it's, it's cheap and it's

616
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000
discounted but because it's been
discounted.

617
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,200
That means that you can look
around at the stores around you

618
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,100
where it is very likely to still
be sold because this was not

619
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:01,400
like a super high seller for
Johnnie Walker if it was they'd

620
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,100
still be making it and so you
can usually find these things

621
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:08,100
discounted if you just like are
out and about and see one on the

622
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:10,000
Shelf.
So it's kind of like we're going

623
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,100
to give you a recommendation for
a whiskey that no one really

624
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,400
ever get to try again.
And you can be one of the last

625
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,699
people to buy it at a really
reasonable price.

626
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,000
Yeah.
If anything, this is kind of

627
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,300
Representative of last call type
of whiskeys.

628
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,199
Okay, go try them.
It's a fun way to try different.

629
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,600
Whiskeys that you might not
normally gravitate.

630
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,900
Towards at a cheaper price than
they'd sell for normally.

631
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,199
Yeah.
All right.

632
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,500
So a little bit more about this,
it's 80 proof.

633
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:39,100
It is again, it's Johnny Walker
but it's one of the cheaper

634
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,199
Blends.
It's a bunch of blended Scotch

635
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,600
the full name on the bottle.
Johnnie Walker blenders, batch

636
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,800
wine.
Cask, blend blended Scotch,

637
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,400
whisky.
That is the full name of this

638
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,300
product.
So, Johnny Walker back in 2017,

639
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:56,500
launched this new line, that
they called blenders batch.

640
00:34:56,699 --> 00:35:00,200
And it was basically like we're
taking Blended It's whiskey.

641
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,200
And we're finishing it in a
couple different things.

642
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,500
So they did a wine, cask finish.
They did a rum Cask finish and

643
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,300
then they did an espresso
finished one as well.

644
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,300
The wine cask finished.
One is super interesting Brad

645
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:14,300
because they got our friend
Andre Houston, Mac to help do

646
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:16,500
some promo for it.
I don't think that he had any

647
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:19,800
part in the production of it,
but when I look online and I

648
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,700
read notes about it, I have no
idea how this was actually made.

649
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:28,500
So one website says that it was
blended whiskey, That Was Then

650
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:32,500
finished in over did 50
different types of wine casks.

651
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,200
And then I look at the tag on
the bottle and it just says,

652
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,900
let's see.
This is an experimental blend of

653
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:45,200
grain and malt whiskies
including some matured in wine

654
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,700
casks.
So that would suggest that a lot

655
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:50,900
of what went into the blend.
The blend happened, after they

656
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:53,700
already pulled it out of the
wine casks and not before they

657
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:56,900
put it into the wine casks.
So I don't frickin know man,

658
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:59,800
it's Cheap whiskey.
It's blended Scotch there's Um

659
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,900
sort of wine flavoring going on
here.

660
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,700
Let's dive into it.
Yeah on the nose here it's a

661
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:08,500
really interesting knows because
you don't get as much of the

662
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:13,100
barley as you normally get on a
scotch for me.

663
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:17,000
This might be one of the most
floral noses that I've ever

664
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
gotten.
Like it just reminds me almost

665
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,600
have like a white wine and
peaches.

666
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,600
Maybe it's a little bit light
fruity.

667
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,300
Yeah.
Looks like peaches and cream.

668
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:32,900
Maybe hmm.
I don't know.

669
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:35,900
Where are you at?
Yeah I like it it has the really

670
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:38,800
bright notes that we get on
Irish whiskey and blended

671
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,600
Scotch.
A lot of the times with not much

672
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,600
of the The Malt underlying it
and definitely not any of that

673
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,900
sort of like grain forward miss
that, we usually get with cheap

674
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:51,000
Whiskey's.
It's really just bright and

675
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,300
fruity and to me, it smells like
remember the little boxes of

676
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:58,700
raisins that we would get in our
lunch boxes as kids like yeah,

677
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,100
cardboard.
Boxes that you would have to pry

678
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:02,600
open with your bare, little
fingers.

679
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,500
It smells like the inside of one
of those boxes.

680
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:08,900
It smells like a box of raisins
or like a fresh cracked thing of

681
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:12,000
prunes.
It is really, really strongly

682
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,800
dried fruit and I like it a lot,
man.

683
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,700
I'm actually going to give it a
seven and a half on the nose.

684
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,500
Yeah, I'm in a similar place, a
little cooler than you, but I'll

685
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:24,300
give it a 7 out of 10.
The longer I stay with the more

686
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:27,500
I do get a few more traditional,
like, honey, notes, kind of

687
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:29,600
coming through, which I make me
excited.

688
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:33,000
Did but yeah we'll see let's
let's get into the palette.

689
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,000
So I took a swig here and I'll
say this much about.

690
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,900
It is really really thin.
Like it is very watery and

691
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:43,600
really really light on the
palate.

692
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:48,500
However it has like a pretty
strong smokiness to it.

693
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:54,000
It's not Pete, but it's almost
like cigarette, Ash smoke and I

694
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,100
don't get a ton of fruit.
I get a little bit of, like,

695
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:59,500
creaminess a little bit of Honey
on this, but not a ton of fruit.

696
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,900
Oats and certainly know why
notes on this.

697
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:04,400
I'm actually pretty disappointed
in this palette Brad.

698
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,800
Huh I think maybe on the finish.
I start to get a little bit of

699
00:38:08,808 --> 00:38:13,000
that cigarette Ash you talking
about for me, mid palate.

700
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,400
I get a little bit of raspberry
the peaches flavor has stuck

701
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,300
around from the nose but it's
definitely very light.

702
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:24,400
Honestly, this kind of reminds
me of like a really delicate

703
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,800
white wine.
I do like a sauvignon blanc type

704
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:33,400
of feel it.
Very light, very airy and I

705
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,400
guess, I don't know.
I'm so used to finishing

706
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:43,300
whiskies in red, wines, and cabs
and you know, Pinot Noir is and

707
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:45,800
things like that.
I think that they used white

708
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,900
wine in this.
Sorry.

709
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,500
Not that they Blended white
wine.

710
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:53,900
And I think they used white wine
casks in this like there's just

711
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:58,300
too much going on, that's light
and Airy and floral for me to

712
00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:00,900
think that this has a lot of Red
wine influence.

713
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,800
You know, I don't I'm not going
to disagree with you there and

714
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,600
you certainly know wine better
than I do.

715
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,100
But I think that the Grain on
this manifests in like a very

716
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:12,600
immediately, bitter way.
Like I just took a second sip of

717
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,100
it and I mean, like tip of my
tongue it's like, hey, I'm gonna

718
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,900
put this cigarette out on your
tongue now.

719
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,000
It's like it's really grain
forward.

720
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,700
It tastes young.
It tastes harsh.

721
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:27,000
Not a stringent but like it just
doesn't have a like, a

722
00:39:27,008 --> 00:39:30,600
well-roundedness to it.
And any That sort of light

723
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,100
effervescence that we that I
kind of pick up on it.

724
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:37,200
Like almost like a champagne,
kind of feel to this is

725
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,400
immediately just like stomped
out by This overbearingly Bitter

726
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,200
smokiness to.
I don't like this man.

727
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,700
I'm gonna give it a 5 out of 10
on the taste, huh.

728
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,400
Yeah, for me I actually kind of
like the palette.

729
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,700
It's light and Airy I'm down
with it.

730
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:58,000
I'll give it a seven and a half
out of ten on the palate.

731
00:39:58,300 --> 00:39:59,500
All right, that takes us to
finish.

732
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,700
I think the Finish is better
than the palette is, but that's

733
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,100
because it's a really short
finish.

734
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,000
It's an 80 proof, whiskey, that
the things that stick around on

735
00:40:09,008 --> 00:40:10,900
your palette.
I think, are those lighter

736
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:14,400
brighter white wine notes?
I do think there is a sense of

737
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,900
like effervescence.
Here it is.

738
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:19,600
For me, it's a little bit closer
to a dryer, white wine on the

739
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,600
Finish than it is a sweet one
and I don't mind it but it's 80

740
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,100
proof.
It's thin not much left on the

741
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:29,100
palate.
I think I'm impressed by that

742
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,400
because I didn't like the
palette but I don't know that

743
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,900
this is an objectively good
finish.

744
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:34,200
I'll just give it a six out of
ten.

745
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,200
Yeah, I'll give it a six and a
half.

746
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,600
It comes down a little bit on
the finish.

747
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,000
The cigarette Ash comes through
at the end which I'm not a fan

748
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,800
of, and it just loses.
A lot of its flavor in the end.

749
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:49,300
So six and a half for me on the
Finish.

750
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,100
Balance wise, I think I'll give
this a 6 out of 10.

751
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:56,700
It's not an incredibly
well-balanced whiskey, it

752
00:40:56,700 --> 00:41:00,300
definitely.
Some sharp edges that I don't

753
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:03,500
know.
Normally blending curves off.

754
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:07,900
Yeah, but it didn't hear.
Yeah, I guess I'll do the same 6

755
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,800
out of 10.
I kind of want to give it lower

756
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,200
than that because from the nose
to the immediate harsh strong

757
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,100
drop off of the palette.
I mean it was like drastic for

758
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:21,200
me.
Bob did you know that you could

759
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,700
give it a lower score than six?
That is that is well within your

760
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:28,600
purview.
I think Because I know that it

761
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,700
is a cheap whiskey, I'm not
going to give it lower than a 6,

762
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,800
but when it comes to Value, this
is where things get tricky.

763
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,000
Because if you can still find it
at the recommended price, which

764
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,800
I think I picked this up for
like $25, I don't know what SRP

765
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,100
on this is.
Let's like let's just say for

766
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:49,900
the sake of argument Brad that
MSRP on this was like, I don't

767
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:54,200
know. $40 well, here's the thing
I'm looking, I've looked on a

768
00:41:54,207 --> 00:41:58,900
few review websites and one of
them says, and I'm quoting and

769
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,500
the best part, it's going for a
bargain price of $69.

770
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,500
Nice.
We suggest filing shopping carts

771
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:10,500
with them or sorry, filling we
suggest filling shopping carts

772
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:13,000
with them.
So that's really funny because

773
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,500
I'm looking on total wines
website and Total Wine is one of

774
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:19,200
the biggest you know, retail
stores in America that sells

775
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,000
Liquor and they have it listed
at 2599.

776
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:23,900
Now again, they're not carrying
it anymore because it's

777
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:27,300
discontinued, but they sold it
at 25 and that's around what I

778
00:42:27,308 --> 00:42:31,500
got at for, on the last call.
So I have no idea what to price

779
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:34,600
this at Brad.
You're seeing it, SRP for it at

780
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,600
60.
Something dollars I'm seeing SRP

781
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:42,300
on this at $26.
Let's just call it $40, because

782
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,100
my whole point was going to be
when you Google it now, you

783
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,100
can't get it cheaper than like
$70.

784
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,500
So you would have to Find this
in the wild to make it a bargain

785
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,200
anyway.
And I think even at $40 this is

786
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,800
not a good value, I appreciate
the craft that went into it, but

787
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,600
let's be frank here.
It's not like they're doing this

788
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,000
with like a really small batch.
This is just huge Vats of

789
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,100
whiskey that they are using tons
and tons and tons of casks of

790
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:11,900
wine.
And because they're using so

791
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:14,000
many casks of wine to finish it
in there.

792
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,600
Hoping that they can blend out
any imperfections there to this

793
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,200
is like you know this is a
conglomerate Talking about.

794
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,200
I'm gonna give it a 2 out of 10
on value.

795
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,900
I think I'll give it a 4 out of
10.

796
00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:31,500
I think that, what's in the
bottle is like, decent Scotch,

797
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:37,000
it's okay, mmm, maybe just
barely above average, so I'll

798
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,900
give it a 4 out of 10 on value.
I don't think it's the worst

799
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:42,500
thing you could buy, but it's
definitely below average on

800
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:44,900
value.
Well, I am for some reason

801
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:47,800
coming out slightly above
average, not even above average,

802
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,900
I'm above the Midway point.
Ain't on my final score here.

803
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:54,600
I met a 26.5 out of 50.
Brad, what are you coming out

804
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,300
to?
I'm A Little Higher.

805
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,400
I'm a 31 out of 50.
Wow!

806
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,300
31 okay.
So that brings us to a 57.5 out

807
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:06,200
of 100 or a twenty eight point
seven five out of 50.

808
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:10,500
I do not recommend buying, I do
not recommend trying, I can see

809
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,500
why this was discontinued and I
don't mean to be harsh here

810
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,200
because like, you know,
typically Brad we don't, we

811
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,100
don't look down on.
We don't talk crap about

812
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:20,400
Whiskey's on this podcast.
But I just don't think this is

813
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,400
good and like it makes a lot of
sense.

814
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:25,200
Why?
This is not being carried

815
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,700
anymore?
Yeah, no 100%.

816
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:30,200
I'm with you.
I like I think this is okay.

817
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,600
It's fine.
I wouldn't recommend getting it.

818
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,000
Unless if you could get it for
25 bucks, I'd say go for it.

819
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,800
But where it's at now, unless
you're like a big, Johnny Walker

820
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,500
Stan, and you just want to try
all their stuff then like sure

821
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,300
go for it, but if that's the
case, you probably already tried

822
00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:49,200
it.
So, all right, Brad.

823
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:51,900
Well, I tried to pair this up
with something like fun and

824
00:44:51,908 --> 00:44:56,000
bubbly to go with Sabrina.
But I have once again, Fallen

825
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,100
right on my face.
So I'm going to say let's just

826
00:44:58,107 --> 00:45:00,300
talk about Audrey Hepburn.
Yeah, man, let's get back into

827
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:01,800
talking about Sabrina.
What do you say?

828
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,000
Let's get to it.
So, here's the deal everybody.

829
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,900
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830
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:11,700
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831
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:14,600
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834
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836
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,300
All right, everybody, that was
Johnny Walker something,

837
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:37,800
something something wine, that's
it.

838
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,800
And that's all I have to say
about, I don't like that whiskey

839
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,800
bread.
Yeah, it was okay.

840
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:46,400
I think I'm finally getting
comfortable enough, you know,

841
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,800
it's season 7 of the podcast
where I'm like, I can say that I

842
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,000
didn't like something and that
doesn't mean that this brand

843
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,900
will never sponsor us or work
with us.

844
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:57,000
Like and even if they do, like
the thing about it is Johnnie

845
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,900
Walker is not hurting because I
said I don't like one.

846
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:03,100
Of these whiskeys now.
I are they a Diageo brand?

847
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,600
I think so.
They're like, one of the big,

848
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:07,700
yeah, there.
I don't know, man.

849
00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:10,800
They, they might be coming after
us with legal action.

850
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:14,200
Some some live only are there.
The Disney Corporation of

851
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,800
whiskey?
Oh man.

852
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,400
Well, putting that Fiasco behind
us.

853
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:24,400
Let's talk about Canada's
favorite segment, two, facts.

854
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,000
And a falsehood is gonna try to
stop you.

855
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:34,900
Bob All right.
And what is wrong to fax in a

856
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:37,400
faucet to fax in?
A falsehood, is the part of the

857
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,400
podcast where Brad presents
three items to me, as fact,

858
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,400
typically about the making of
this movie, one of which, is a

859
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,300
complete lie and Fabrication on
his part.

860
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:50,900
And it's my job to figure out
which one is the falsehood Brad.

861
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:53,400
I'm very excited for this
because, I don't know a ton

862
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,400
about the making of Sabrina.
I came straight down to your

863
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,400
house this morning before I got
a chance to look at all the

864
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,700
Billy Wilder books.
I checked out of the Library.

865
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:03,600
So I don't really have a ton of
knowledge about this and I'm

866
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,900
going to be winging it.
That's good to hear, Bob because

867
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:13,600
I have three of the longest
facts I have ever pulled out for

868
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,700
two facts in a falsehood
history.

869
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:17,200
All right man, let's hear them
fact.

870
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,400
Number one, Humphrey Bogart was
a last-minute replacement for.

871
00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:26,000
This is my personal injection.
My favorite actor Cary Grant,

872
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:29,200
supposedly Grant rejected the
part because he did not want to

873
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,100
carry an umbrella.
On screen Bogart and William

874
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:34,200
Holden couldn't stand.
Each other Bogart.

875
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,000
Also, disapproved of Audrey
Hepburn, as he preferred his

876
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,800
wife Lauren Bacall in the role
while Holden fell in love with

877
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,900
Audrey.
Bogart was paid, three hundred

878
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:46,100
thousand dollars to the movie,
holding was paid 150 thousand

879
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:50,000
dollars and in the most sexist
thing I've ever heard all at

880
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,800
least today, Hepburn was paid.
15,000 dollar.

881
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,900
Wow.
Ask how he liked working with

882
00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:58,000
Hepburn, Bogart replied.
It's okay.

883
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,200
If you don't mind a few dozen
takes X dang, that's fact number

884
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:02,800
one.
Okay.

885
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:06,900
Fact, number two, William Holden
tired of working with Billy

886
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:11,500
Wilder after Sunset Boulevard
and Stalag 17 leaned into his

887
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:15,200
Playboy character, and would
show up late to set ad-lib his

888
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,000
lines.
And be a general nuisance, this

889
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,800
led to an extended period of
Disconnect between the two until

890
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,100
they collaborated one last time
in 1978 fedora.

891
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:31,300
Fact number 3, although few Bear
DE Givenchy and I know I'm

892
00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:33,800
saying that wrong jeevan.
Say jeeva.

893
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,900
Say thank you Danny.
He provided Audrey Hepburn's

894
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:40,100
wardrobe.
Edith, Head won the Oscar for

895
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:44,700
best costumes as give.
O'Shea Is uncredited head as the

896
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:47,200
film's official costume designer
was given credit for the

897
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,000
costumes.
Although the Academy's votes

898
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,200
were obviously for heparins.
Attire head did not refuse the

899
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,700
Oscar and in 1974 interview.
She stated that she was Possible

900
00:48:56,700 --> 00:49:00,700
for creating the dresses with
some inspiration from given,

901
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:04,100
given Shay Javon.
She, I'm just going to keep

902
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:07,200
buttering it designs that happen
lights, but that she made

903
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,800
important changes in the dresses
were not by Zevon.

904
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,600
She after her death, those
Yvonne she stated that Sabrina's

905
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,700
iconic, black cocktail dress was
produced at Paramount Under head

906
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:20,600
supervision, but it was 100% his
design.

907
00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:26,900
Brad like you, I did have time
to peruse the Sabrina Wikipedia

908
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:27,900
page.
Hmm.

909
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:32,200
And so, I know that number three
is true.

910
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,400
However, let me ask you this
before.

911
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,800
I make a final decision here.
Okay, these were very log facts.

912
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,500
Yes.
Now, you would not do such a

913
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,900
thing, as to like, change one
minut detail.

914
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:47,000
Like, the, the entire basis of
the fact would be false, right?

915
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,300
Yes.
The, the, the one that I made up

916
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,500
is, A maid.
Okay.

917
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:55,100
Yeah, here's a little
background.

918
00:49:55,900 --> 00:50:00,500
I do not look up a single fact
about the movie before I write

919
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:04,000
my falsehood.
No, yeah, really 100%.

920
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,500
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, that's that's news to me.

921
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:08,100
Yeah.
All right.

922
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:11,000
So here's what I'll say because
I did peruse the Wikipedia page.

923
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,400
I know that the thing about
Edith Head who is perhaps the

924
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,700
most iconic costume designer in
Hollywood history and shivaji,

925
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:23,000
who is one of the most iconic
Haute Who are designers in

926
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,900
Parisian history?
I know.

927
00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:27,200
That's a fact.
I know number one, for the most

928
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,700
part, for the most part, is a
fact.

929
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:32,300
I didn't know about the quote
that Humphrey Bogart said, but

930
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,700
Humphrey Bogart was generally
kind of a grump on this set and

931
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:40,000
didn't get along with wilder and
thought that Hepburn was super

932
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,600
inexperienced and kind of
amateurish and didn't apologize.

933
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,100
Until years later about what
happened on set here.

934
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:49,300
And said, basically, I was going
through some issues issues in my

935
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:51,300
personal life.
This may have been around the

936
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:54,000
time That Bogart found out he
had cancer because he dies like

937
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,600
three years after this.
Hmm.

938
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,600
So I know that for the most
part, number one is a fact, I'm

939
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,600
gonna go ahead and say number
two is the falsehood.

940
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:05,500
I had no idea about the William
Holden thing and it definitely

941
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:07,200
hasn't come up anything.
I've read so far.

942
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,700
So, I'm gonna go ahead and say
that Holden, and Wilder were

943
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:14,800
boys all the way through to
1978, and I'll say to the

944
00:51:14,808 --> 00:51:19,900
falsehood Bob, I love that you
opened this segment with, I

945
00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:23,900
haven't read a single thing.
About this movie and then you

946
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:27,300
proceeded to say but based on
the things I have read about the

947
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:31,000
movie, I'm going to go ahead and
say to the pulse it, right?

948
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,200
I'm going to say that.
You are a shyster and that you

949
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,900
don't deserve this win.
So, here's first of all, I mean,

950
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:42,400
I'm allowed to read things about
the making of the movie.

951
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,200
Are you before, before we
record.

952
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,500
Let me, let me add a wrinkle to
this.

953
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,800
When I read a Wikipedia page.
And they state facts about a

954
00:51:52,808 --> 00:51:55,000
movie.
I generally take those to be

955
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,000
like the most well known facts
about the movie.

956
00:51:58,300 --> 00:51:59,600
Hmm.
Like oh, hey.

957
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,600
Did you know that James Cameron
invented new technology to make

958
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,900
Avatar.
So then if you come in and

959
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:07,900
you're like, fact number one,
James Cameron invented new tech

960
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:09,200
that like that's common
knowledge.

961
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,000
My guy, I did not read the
Wikipedia page about him.

962
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,500
Okay.
Well, I did and they were on

963
00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:16,900
there and so I will claim my
victory.

964
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,000
We are saying that number two,
is the falsehood, right?

965
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:19,900
Yeah.
It's the false.

966
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:22,500
I get a victory.
Boom.

967
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,600
All right.
Talk to me about William Holden

968
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,800
and our boy bogey who do want to
start with.

969
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,300
Let's talk about Humphrey.
Let's do it.

970
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,700
Because I don't think you're a
big fan of him in this movie.

971
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,700
I think that I didn't.
Once again, I didn't read this

972
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:41,900
fact to later.
I think Cary Grant would have

973
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:47,000
been a million times better of a
choice for this role, you know,

974
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,000
I weirdly disagree.
I think the Cary Grant would

975
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,200
have given the movie A much more
lighthearted energy all the way

976
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,300
through.
Mmm, I don't know if he would

977
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:58,900
have been able to balance, the,
the romance and the darker

978
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:00,600
aspects, as well as bogey does
here.

979
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,700
Bogey like the thing that
Humphrey Bogart is doing in this

980
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:07,800
movie is so similar to the way.
He played Rick in Casablanca

981
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,300
that super guarded emotion
almost emotionless, but then you

982
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:17,300
find out what's driving his hurt
and I think it works.

983
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:19,800
So so well, I think the thing,
if there's anything, we really

984
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,100
didn't talk about, it's the age
Gap because Cuz it's so

985
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:24,200
apparent.
Because, you know, bogeys over

986
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,700
50 years old and he looks over
50 years old in this movie and

987
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:30,500
Audrey Hepburn is although,
according to network.

988
00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:34,600
That's just a middle-aged man.
That's true and heparins like

989
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,000
25.
But playing 17, do you know what

990
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,300
I mean?
Like, personality-wise.

991
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,700
So here's what I'll say.
I was so excited to see a movie

992
00:53:43,700 --> 00:53:45,800
with Humphrey Bogart in it
again, because we haven't

993
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,100
watched a movie with him in it
since the African queen.

994
00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:53,900
And then, you know, the two that
we did back in like season one

995
00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:56,000
and two.
And so it's been a long time

996
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,400
since we've had Bogart on
screen.

997
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,400
And I got to say, man, I haven't
watched a Humphrey Bogart movie

998
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,300
in a long time.
The guy is just electric and

999
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:06,100
there's a scene where, you know,
it's the scene where they're in

1000
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:07,900
his office suite.
And she finds out that he's

1001
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:11,800
basically been screwing her over
and it's a two shot, a medium

1002
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,400
shot with both of them in it and
she's crying and facing away

1003
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,000
from him and he's behind her and
just staring at the back of her

1004
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,500
head and darned.
If this guy By Humphrey Bogart

1005
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:26,100
didn't pull my entire gaze away
from Audrey Hepburn.

1006
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:30,300
And all he was doing was looking
at the back of her head and I

1007
00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:34,500
kind of realized I think the
superpower of Bogart as a

1008
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,200
romantic lead because it doesn't
make sense that this guy would

1009
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,300
be romantically like he's not
conventionally attractive, he's

1010
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:44,500
like five foot nothing and he
looks like, you know, he was

1011
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:47,800
made out of wax and got melted a
little bit like it's just, it

1012
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,800
doesn't make sense but he has
his Be in his scenes with Audrey

1013
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,500
Hepburn.
Two, I think better than any

1014
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:59,400
other actor to make you feel
like he is paying complete and

1015
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,100
total attention to you.
The way he locks in on his

1016
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:06,900
co-stars it's like he's capable
of creating chemistry with,

1017
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:09,400
almost anybody.
Like male-female.

1018
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,300
I'm not just talking romantic
chemistry, but like he pulls you

1019
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:17,600
in as a viewer in a way that
very, very few other actors have

1020
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,800
ever been able to accomplish and
I think that says, a lot about

1021
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,200
him because there's nothing in
this character Or or in him as a

1022
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,900
person, that would make, you
think?

1023
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:28,900
Yes, this man is clearly,
romantically compatible with

1024
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:32,200
Audrey, Hepburn and darned.
If I didn't buy it by the end of

1025
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,400
the movie and that, I think that
for me, is the issue.

1026
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:38,700
I never bought it.
Hmm, I never bought that.

1027
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:42,200
He actually fell in love with
her, and I don't know if it's

1028
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,400
Humphrey, Bogart, the Grump, who
wished that Lauren Bacall was

1029
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,600
his co-lead bleeding, through,
into his performance.

1030
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,300
But I never once believed that
he Actually fell in love with

1031
00:55:54,300 --> 00:55:57,200
her or that she actually fell in
love with him.

1032
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,600
And I think that's the Crux for
me as to why this movie didn't

1033
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,500
quite work as well for me as it
used to.

1034
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,500
There's still so much to love
about this movie, but I don't

1035
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:12,200
think that there's enough
Chemistry Between Bogart and

1036
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,400
Hepburn, man.
Well, I disagree and you're

1037
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,900
wrong.
So let's talk William Holden

1038
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,800
because I think if there's
anyone who kind of gets shafted

1039
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,700
by this movie a little bit, it's
William Holden.

1040
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:26,300
Although I will say back to the
structure thing, I love that

1041
00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:30,700
this movie basically puts
Megastar Humphrey Bogart on the

1042
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:33,900
complete back burner until like,
the one hour mark and then

1043
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:36,500
they're like, all right now,
it's time for William Holden to

1044
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:41,400
take a backseat to this guy, but
it never feels forced to me.

1045
00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:43,200
Like, it's just like, Hey, we're
going to introduce this new

1046
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,400
character and we're going to let
this love, triangle, develop,

1047
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,400
really organically and I love
that they aren't constantly

1048
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,800
undercutting the dramatic Stakes
of Bogart.

1049
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,200
Bye.
Bringing William Holden into it

1050
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,700
a bunch.
Like he comes back in a few

1051
00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:58,500
scenes, but then he's not really
a huge fixture in the movie

1052
00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:01,000
until the end of the movie
again, I guess.

1053
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,600
Brad.
I'm wondering like, hey, what

1054
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,800
did you think of his
performance?

1055
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,400
But B also knowing that he's
coming off of a best actor win

1056
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,700
and then he's essentially
playing like third fiddle to

1057
00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:16,300
Hepburn and Bogart here.
What do you make of that?

1058
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:22,900
I think that Holden is the
slapstick comedy in this film.

1059
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,100
And it just feels weird coming
off of Sunset and Stalag.

1060
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:34,500
Like he has such a I don't know
the poorest role where he's just

1061
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:39,100
kind of floating around and I
don't know, he just doesn't have

1062
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:41,900
a lot of substance to him
throughout the film even at the

1063
00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:45,300
end like when he gets punched by
Bogart and he like does a

1064
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:49,300
reverse somersault onto the
table and like kicks his legs

1065
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:51,600
out and he's like you're in love
with her.

1066
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:57,400
It just Doesn't feel real enough
and and I don't know if I'm

1067
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:02,000
asking for too much out of a
rom-com but it feels like even

1068
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:08,200
at the end he just is kind of
ethereal and not a real person

1069
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,700
in a way that would make you
understand why Sabrina would

1070
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:15,900
love him and then you know maybe
that's kind of the whole point

1071
00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:18,800
is that she falls out of love
with him because he doesn't have

1072
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,400
any substance.
But at the very least, I thought

1073
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,200
he was fine.
It was it's just so different

1074
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,500
than the two movies.
We just watched him and that it

1075
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:31,300
felt jarring.
I guess, first thing I notice

1076
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:33,500
about William Holden in this
movie, is that he's much more

1077
00:58:33,500 --> 00:58:35,900
blond than he was in either of
the first two movies.

1078
00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:38,200
Yes, he looks so much different.
They yeah.

1079
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,300
They young them up a little bit.
Which I'm cool with he reminded

1080
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:46,000
me in his demeanor and in his
look because of the blond wig or

1081
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,500
dire whatever they did.
He reminded me so much of the

1082
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:53,600
way that Joseph Cotten played.
And Wells.

1083
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,900
Best friend in Citizen Kane.
Yes.

1084
00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:57,900
I was literally thinking the
exact same thing.

1085
00:58:57,900 --> 00:58:59,300
Okay, here's the crazy thing,
right?

1086
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:02,400
So I didn't know anything about
this after I watched the movie

1087
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,500
and I started reading on
Wikipedia and I saw about, you

1088
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:06,700
know, Sabrina Fair because you
didn't read anything about the

1089
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:08,200
film not before I watched it.
Yeah.

1090
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,200
No.
Huh number?

1091
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,900
So I clicked, I clicked on the
Wikipedia page to Sabrina Fair,

1092
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:15,100
the play.
This was based on Guess Who

1093
00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:18,800
starred in place Sabrina Fair.
Joseph house.

1094
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:20,500
No Joseph Cotten, but he was
play.

1095
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:23,500
Stop it.
But he was playing the Bogart

1096
00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:25,800
character in that movie career
in that plane because I know

1097
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,500
he's older at that point but
it's just crazy to me because I

1098
00:59:28,508 --> 00:59:30,500
was like, man, I wonder what
this would have been like if it

1099
00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:33,800
was Joseph cotton and lo and
behold Joseph Cotten had his

1100
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,600
fingerprints all over this.
It's in some ways that's

1101
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,900
incredible.
Yeah I really love that because

1102
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:42,800
I'm with you.
He I think it's his hair and the

1103
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:47,100
way he talks that just comes
across so much like Cotton's

1104
00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:50,100
performance in Kane.
I honestly think this might be

1105
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:52,900
my favorite of the three William
Holden performances we've looked

1106
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:56,800
at The last three weeks.
I just nice to see him be a

1107
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,600
little more loose and like kind
of goofy.

1108
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,900
Not even just yeah, Goofy too
but like I feel like Sunset

1109
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:08,300
Boulevard could have used an
ounce of charm and I was left

1110
01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:10,600
wondering, like does William
Holden just not have a lot of

1111
01:00:10,607 --> 01:00:14,200
charm and in this movie it's
like oh he totally did, they

1112
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,700
just didn't use it in Sunset
Boulevard?

1113
01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:21,900
Yeah, I think that his charm
works here and that like that's

1114
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:26,000
the one reason I like him is
because he is so Charming

1115
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,200
throughout.
But like I said, I just wish his

1116
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,900
character had a little more
depth to it, but I think it's A

1117
01:00:31,908 --> 01:00:34,600
good performance, I think.
I like him a little more in

1118
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:39,400
Stalag 17, but I like him in
both of these films for

1119
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,100
different reasons.
All right, so before we get out

1120
01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:45,200
of here, let's give some final
thoughts on Billy Wilder, as a

1121
01:00:45,207 --> 01:00:48,000
director across these three
movies because I'm looking at

1122
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,300
his filmography here, and of
course, I closed out the tab,

1123
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:55,200
Brad, but I'm going to try to
Rattle these off from the top of

1124
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:00,500
my head.
Just from 1950 to 1960, he does

1125
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,200
Sunset Boulevard.
He does a movie called Ace in

1126
01:01:03,207 --> 01:01:08,800
the Hole which is now considered
a classic Stalag 17 Sabrina.

1127
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,100
He does The Seven Year Itch with
Marilyn Monroe.

1128
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:16,100
He does.
I think three movies in 1957,

1129
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,900
one of which is witness for the
prosecution, which gets

1130
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:23,000
nominated for best picture.
He does Some Like It Hot and

1131
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,200
then he closes it out in 1960
with the apartment dude.

1132
01:01:26,300 --> 01:01:29,700
I think between 1950 and 1960,
he's nominated for best director

1133
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:33,600
five times.
Like what a freaking run, man.

1134
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,500
I just say has Spielberg or
Scorsese ever come close to a

1135
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:39,200
run like that.
I don't thinking like, one

1136
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,900
decade anyone, you know, there
you'd have to go back to Classic

1137
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:45,000
Hollywood to find someone
nominated five times in a

1138
01:01:45,008 --> 01:01:46,300
decade.
That's crazy.

1139
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,100
I think Coppola did it.
Four times in the 70s.

1140
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:53,400
But five is crazy.
Yeah, that's nutty man.

1141
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,500
He truly is one of the greatest
directors of all time and I'm

1142
01:01:57,500 --> 01:01:59,700
really thankful that we chose
these three movies.

1143
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,200
Like I think it's important, we
got Sunset Boulevard out of the

1144
01:02:02,207 --> 01:02:07,300
way and then you know, Stalag 17
and now Sabrina I think they

1145
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:10,800
show his versatility in a really
cool ways.

1146
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,200
I totally agree, man.
All right, it's time for us to

1147
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,800
get into our last few segments
of the day and the first of

1148
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,100
which is one that we call, let's
make it a double we near the end

1149
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:20,400
of the episode.
I sewed.

1150
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,700
So thanks for listening to the
film and whiskey, show the spare

1151
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:26,000
another film with this one.
Even if it's struggle, it's a

1152
01:02:26,008 --> 01:02:28,800
final segment of the day.
Now let's make it a double.

1153
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,200
Let's make it.
A double is the part of the

1154
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,700
show, where we pick the perfect
pairing to go with this movie to

1155
01:02:34,700 --> 01:02:38,100
create a double feature.
Brad, I have not given this one

1156
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:39,700
second of thought before right
now.

1157
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,600
So I'm hoping you have cuz I'm
going to let you speak.

1158
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,500
While I try to think, I sure
have Bob.

1159
01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:49,000
I am going to pick a older
rom-com.

1160
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,800
From 1940, I think that this
would pair incredibly well with

1161
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,500
the Philadelphia Story.
Hmm.

1162
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,200
You know, I was thinking about
the Philadelphia Story when I

1163
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,000
brought up the whole William
Holden thing because very

1164
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,800
famously, Jimmy Stewart does not
win the Oscar in 39 for mr.

1165
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,400
Smith Goes to Washington and
then he makes the Philadelphia

1166
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,000
Story where he's very clearly,
the third banana and that movie

1167
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,100
and wins the Oscar for best
actor.

1168
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,800
And it's kind of inverted here
where Holden wins for Stalag 17,

1169
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,500
but then goes and makes a
romantic comedy.

1170
01:03:20,500 --> 01:03:22,700
The next year where he's
basically playing the Jimmy

1171
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:25,500
Stewart character.
Yeah, I think it's a great

1172
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:28,400
pairing man.
Yeah, I think that both movies

1173
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,900
have a lot of spunk and just
fun.

1174
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,600
There's just a lot of life in
both of the movies and both of

1175
01:03:38,607 --> 01:03:41,000
them, have absolutely incredible
casts.

1176
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,600
So I think Philadelphia Story is
an easy one.

1177
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:48,800
If you're looking for just some
really fun, witty older movies

1178
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,500
with great dialogue.
I don't think you can go wrong

1179
01:03:51,500 --> 01:03:54,100
with Philadelphia Story and
Sabrina.

1180
01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:56,400
I'm kind of in between two
movies for mine.

1181
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,600
One of them would be the 1957
musical funny face that Audrey

1182
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,800
Hepburn makes with Fred Astaire.
Mmm.

1183
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,700
And it's because there's a ton
of Paris in that movie and it's

1184
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:08,900
romanticizing Paris and it's
Audrey Hepburn.

1185
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,400
I think you could never get
enough.

1186
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,200
Audrey Hepburn yes.
However I honestly think I'm

1187
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,100
going to go the more
conventional route here and just

1188
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:18,900
pair this up with the apartment.
I think that there are similar

1189
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:23,100
themes across the to one of them
keeps its foot more firmly

1190
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:26,000
planted in the lighter side of
things and one of them keeps its

1191
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,900
foot and more Firmly planted in
the dramatic side of things but

1192
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:31,700
in a lot of ways I do think
these are two sides of the same

1193
01:04:31,700 --> 01:04:33,700
coin.
Yeah I think that's a great

1194
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:36,500
pairing.
I need to revisit the apartment

1195
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:38,000
sometime, man.
It's so good.

1196
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:42,500
It's such an incredible movie
that I haven't watched since we

1197
01:04:42,500 --> 01:04:45,000
did it for the podcast.
So I'm going to put that on the

1198
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,900
list of all 40, other movies, I
want to look for every visit.

1199
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,100
I have finally converted you.
Oh man.

1200
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:55,400
Alright, so let's give this
movie some scores Brad like I

1201
01:04:55,408 --> 01:04:58,000
said, you know, I This movie on
the list and really didn't give

1202
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,400
it a second.
Thought I have not watched it in

1203
01:05:00,500 --> 01:05:03,800
almost 20 years.
I was not expecting to love it

1204
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,100
as much as I did.
But in I'm kind of like basking

1205
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:08,800
in the glow of this movie right
now.

1206
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:11,400
Maybe a few months from now.
I want to revisit it and give it

1207
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,600
a lower score, but as of right
now, I'm going to give this

1208
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,200
movie my first 10 out of 10 on
the season.

1209
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:22,100
Wow that hey, this is like this
might be the most rare.

1210
01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:26,300
Occurrence, beloved Brad
childhood movie.

1211
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:28,700
That Bob is higher on than
anything.

1212
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:32,100
I think I'm going to give this
an eight and a half, I like I

1213
01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:33,400
love it.
It's fun.

1214
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,100
It's light-hearted.
And there's a lot of great

1215
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:40,600
dialogue, but in the at the end
of the day, I just don't buy the

1216
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:46,600
Romantic premise, which makes it
hard to give a rom-com, a 9 or

1217
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,300
higher.
So, I like, I love this movie.

1218
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:51,400
I highly recommend that people
go see it.

1219
01:05:51,700 --> 01:05:56,100
It is charming and funny like
that moment.

1220
01:05:56,500 --> 01:05:59,500
This is, this is an example of
how acting can elevate a movie,

1221
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:04,500
the lines between David and
Sabrina.

1222
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:10,400
When he drives her back from
the, the train station and they

1223
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,500
pull in and she goes, this is my
place and he goes, this isn't

1224
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:16,500
your place and she goes.
Yes it is.

1225
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:19,600
And he goes, well, we're
neighbors then and the way she

1226
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:26,600
says Hi Neighbor is just perfect
and it's taking a really Lee

1227
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:31,300
just nonsensical script and
elevating it to a point where

1228
01:06:31,300 --> 01:06:35,200
you're like that, that's that's
why we have movie stars.

1229
01:06:35,500 --> 01:06:38,300
So this isn't me bashing the
movie at all.

1230
01:06:38,300 --> 01:06:40,400
It's just me saying that there's
parts of it.

1231
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,700
I'm not down with this is an
incredible movie Bob and I

1232
01:06:43,707 --> 01:06:46,600
absolutely love it.
Alright, so there you have it.

1233
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,500
We are coming out to a nine
point two five out of 10 on

1234
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:51,400
average, but we want to know
what you think.

1235
01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:53,500
I'm really excited to see if
people have seen this movie,

1236
01:06:53,500 --> 01:06:56,600
Brad because it is a rom-com.
I imagine, some people may have

1237
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,200
seen it over and against movies,
like Stalag 17.

1238
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:02,000
Tell us what you think of this
movie in comparison to your

1239
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,800
other favorite romantic comedies
and and don't watch the 1995

1240
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,300
version.
It's like fine, but it's nowhere

1241
01:07:09,300 --> 01:07:10,900
near the original.
You know, the crazy thing is

1242
01:07:10,900 --> 01:07:13,800
like Greg Kinnear plays, the
William Holden character in that

1243
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,300
movie, he actually looks a lot
like William Holden and I can

1244
01:07:16,300 --> 01:07:18,100
see that.
Yeah, he does using Harrison

1245
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:21,100
Ford as the bogart doesn't make
sense.

1246
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:25,200
Because Harrison Ford is a, he's
a sex symbol in his own, right?

1247
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,100
And he has a very particular
appeal.

1248
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:29,500
I don't think he's a boggart
guy.

1249
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:32,200
That's interesting.
I actually think Harrison is the

1250
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,900
only good thing about that.
Oh, wow.

1251
01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:36,700
Okay, yeah.
I-i've seen it once because I

1252
01:07:36,700 --> 01:07:40,100
liked Sabrina growing up and I
think Harrison Ford is like, the

1253
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:41,700
only thing that does work in
that film.

1254
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,500
I listen, I like I'm always down
to watch a Harrison Ford movie.

1255
01:07:44,500 --> 01:07:46,800
It's just interesting to me that
they looked at it and they said,

1256
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:52,900
like who's the modern-day Bogart
Harrison for now, anyway.

1257
01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:54,100
All right.
Let us know what you think of

1258
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,200
both of these movies.
You can find us on our social

1259
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,100
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1260
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,200
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Discord.

1261
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,300
We are on there every single day
talking to you guys, the fans of

1262
01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:07,900
the film whiskey podcast.
So if you want to join the

1263
01:08:07,900 --> 01:08:10,500
conversation, you can find a
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1264
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:13,000
At the end of every single one
of our show notes.

1265
01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:15,400
Next week, we are pivoting into
a completely different.

1266
01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:16,700
Director.
We're going to be looking at

1267
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:18,700
three films from the Oscar
winner.

1268
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,100
Kathryn Bigelow, and we're
kicking it off with the 2009

1269
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,000
Best Picture Winner, The Hurt
Locker.

1270
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:27,600
We'll see you next week for that
but until then, I'm Bob book,

1271
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,600
I'm Reggie and we'll see you
next time.