Pulp Fiction / Weller Antique

0:01 In 1994 director, Quentin, Tarantino and star Samuel L Jackson gave the world an explosive film that shines and it's introspective moments in 2019, Buffalo Trace gives us a whiskey that refuses to stay on store shelves. The film is Pulp Fiction, the whiskey is Weller antique and we'll review them both. This is the film and whiskey podcast. Welcome to the film and whiskey podcast, where each week, we review a classic movie and a glass of whiskey. I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie and this week, we are looking at the 1994 Classic Bob.

0:52 Do you know what year it is? Right now. It's 2019. Your the means we're celebrating the 25th anniversary of bull fiction. Last week, we looked at The Lion King and this week, we are making a hard left turn and to Tarantino, they'll but children, you can leave this episode. Yeah, right now. Well, first of all children while you're listening to an episode about whiskey, but both of these movies are celebrating their 25th anniversary. And both of these movies, have a tie to the current box office, right? So last thing we talked about The Lion King, there's a new Lion King coming out this week. Quentin Tarantino is premiering his new movie Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. So we figured what better time to get in. The Wayback machine. Yeah. And look at Pulp Fiction, you know, this reminds me of what's that? When we watch that terrible movie, what was it called? Oh, yeah.

1:38 Goodfellas. Oh, that one. And it kind of how Joe Pesci was in, Goodfellas in 1990 and also in Home Alone in 1990. Yeah. And I'm kind of like we went from Lion King in 1994, Temple fiction, in 1990, feel like Pulp Fiction is just if scar. Could have really been himself, he would have been in Pulp Fiction, who would have been all of them every character in Pulp Fiction. Okay. All right, before we get into things, I do want to say that this week begins a new segment we're doing on our podcast that we're calling bonus Bonanza. Bonus Bonanza, Brad and I have been hard at work. Recording bonus episodes for you. So we've got some where we're in the studio and it's just me and Brad shooting the breeze.

2:18 We've got a couple where we have actually gone to distilleries, and I want to spoiler alert here Brad, and I have taken a trip to the great state Commonwealth of Kentucky and we have interviewed three different Stiller's down there. Bob, what's Kentucky known for horses? Wow, yeah, Muhammad Ali's Muhammad, ya oval. I'm not. Oh yeah, I feel like it's known for something else. Oh, maybe some bourbon, he's a merman. So Brad. And I actually took a trip down to Kentucky. We've interviewed three fantastic, up-and-coming distilleries there, and we're so excited to get there. My favorite movie episodes out. So, every week for five weeks, we are dropping a bonus episode. So you'll get an episode Monday and an episode Thursday. We're calling it bonus Bonanza.

3:00 Bonanza, guys, if I can be just completely honest with you. So the main thing that we want to get across to you, is we love this podcast. We have so much fun recording our episodes and doing interviews with CEOs, and doing, Blind, tastings and doing top 5S we absolutely love this. And we just want to bring you as much bonus content as we can. Absolutely, because we love you guys, we do and gals are loyal with, we love y'all. Alright, let's get into talking about this movie. We already gone off away. Is so I kind of Pulp Fiction, Pulp Fiction 1994 directed by Quentin Tarantino. This was his second feature length movie that he directed. If you've, this is gonna be a fun exercise. Yeah, you've never heard of Quentin Tarantino. If somebody came to you and said Robert, I've never heard of Quentin, Tarantino describe him to me in three words, describe, his movies to me?

3:50 What three words would you choose can be consecutive into a statement? Or, you know, just three random words, he nerdy. Immature genius. I think I think with Tarantino it's like I've seen Tarantino type movies done badly and I know that one that's really popular would be Boondock. Saints.the Boondock Saints to me, feels like a Tarantino type. Rip off where the the screenwriter and director didn't understand how to actually make a good movie. Tarantino, he does dumb stuff he does, he is immature ridiculous, ridiculous stuff, but he also knows how to craft a fantastic movie. And I think that's what we have here with politics and not just not just a fantastic movie. But a fantastic story.

4:32 Absolutely, which really drives you through the movie and we've done a Tarantino film before. Yeah, we've done Inglourious Basterds. I was one of our first films that we granted and now we're coming to what many would say. At the very least it's quite interesting is most well-known absolutely if not his best film. Yeah, for sure. I mean, this is the one that is on the American Film. Institute's, top 100 movies of all time. This is Tarantino's Master made it to the top. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I don't think, you know, Brad and I grew up in the Dies. But this movie, obviously came out at a time. Where we could not see it, right? We were born in 1990 on the dot. It is impossible to overstate how much of an impact this movie had on Cinema in the 1990s. This movie came out.

5:13 It was an independent movie, Tarantino burst on the scene after Reservoir Dogs. And this was his follow-up and it changed everything about how movies were made. How movies were viewed? How people wrote In the 1990s and Cinema ever since? And my boys, Samuel Jackson was in it. What? Get to talking about Samuel L Jackson. But Brad, I've got some important questions for you. Have you ever seen the movie Pulp Fiction prior to this watch? I feel like I remember at one point I had seen part of it, but I hadn't seen all of it before. Okay. So this was your first time that you remember, sitting down and watching the whole thing. We three in one sitting. Yeah. And even any even beyond that, this is one of those movies we talked about this was singing in the rain. Yeah, there's like YouTube clips.

5:53 Yeah, you movie. You've seen bits and pieces for certain pieces of it but I'd only seen like maybe the first half of the movie. So, yeah, I get that. So this movie, it came out, 94, John Travolta, Samuel L Jackson, Uma Thurman, and Bruce Willis are the stars of this movie, it 11, Oscar for original screenplay. It was nominated for six, others Define the category, original screenplay. So original screenplay means a screenplay, that's not based on something pre-existing. So I put it in a daze, he Shakespeare, right? Exactly. And adaptation of a book and adaptation of a play, those would all be under adapted screenplay. This is something that the author came up with on on his or her own that was completely non-existent before. It was written. This is a completely random question.

6:35 What would you do with a remake then? Like, The Lion King, it would probably be under adapted screenplay. The line doesn't, would be even if they're writing a whole new screenplay, they're basing, it off of something pre-existing. Okay, yeah, so it won the Oscar for best original screenplay. It was nominated for six more John Travolta for best actor. Samuel Jackson supporting actor, Uma Thurman is supporting actress. It was also nominated for best editing best director and best picture. Lost out on all of those. I think editing. I don't know what one editing that year, but the editing on this movie was so crisp and so sharp and just smooth. Yeah, oh my gosh. So I thought yeah so I think it's time that we get into our favorite segments around here. Brad explains.

7:18 Can we rename the segment like Brad clumsily explains? Yeah, I think our listeners already know that you're going to clumsily. Explain it Brad but thanks Bobby so Perfection, so, Pulp Fiction, if you haven't seen it, Before, and I'm just gonna blanket statement right now. This is another one of those movies that is, to use the only word to describe as gratuitous. Hmm, it's a gratuitous movie. It indulges itself, if you're going to watch it, know that lots of bad things happen, honestly, I think one of my favorite Parts about the movie is the opening scene when you know, it's black and then the definition of the word pulp comes onto the screen. Yeah. And it starts with like basically a mushy smushy substance is the first definition.

8:00 And the second definition is a novel or literature that is written on crappy material about crappy subjects. Right. Right. That's pretty much what it's about like CD type character. Yeah. So, the essence was that Pulp Fiction was, would you say in the 50s? 60s 70s. Yeah. And before that too, and even sure that they would be these little, like, paperback, novels, like thing about the Beatles, you know, paperback Rider. Yeah, that they would write these little like, crappy paperback novels that were printed on crappy material. And they're just kind of seedy stories about crappy people. And if I had to wrap up my summary, that would be it. Yeah, but more fully there is a Crime Boss named Marsellus Wallace.

8:44 And he has to kind of goons that work for him. Who rough people up. They take care of the things that you would imagine. Mobsters have to take care of and the film is separated into three different stories story. Yes. Yeah. And I think that's the thing about Pope stories is that you would buy one book of Pope stories, Pulp Fiction, and it would usually have three or four, completely different stories that had possibly nothing to do with each other or maybe one character that would go from the one of the next kind of an anthology. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what the movie is. An anthology of three stories. It's about these two hit men who work for their boss. Marsellus Wallace.

9:24 It's hard to sum up this movie has a lot going on. Yeah, Vincent Vega played By John Travolta. He does a hit in the first part, he takes marcellus's wife out on a date, that's not a date. He's just shown her a good time in the second half and then the third half, he's nothing and Samuel Jackson quotes, the Bible and kills people. So I'm gonna jump into Brad explains here because I think you're right. Like, there are three distinct Stories being told and sometimes characters from one story what kind of filter in and out of another story. And one thing that Tarantino did is he told All stories out of chronological order for the most, the biggest impact. So, the last story in the movie, actually, probably happens close to the beginning of the chronological story, right?

10:10 But I think it might be more helpful to talk about the fact that all of the stories in this movie, I think come down to what the characters are offered at the end of the story. And I think that all three of these stories are about characters who do really seedy stuff, finding a Saving Grace. And if you look at each Each one of these three stories, that's kind of where the narrative goes. You have a setup, that's familiar to you. So like the The Hitman taking out his boss's wife for dinner, then you have that super familiar, super familiar. Yeah, then you have something that comes in complicates it that Tarantino throws in that you would never expect and what Tarantino's doing is, he is trying to get you off balance, like he's trying to throw a curveball at you that you've never seen before. And so in that first story where John Travolta takes Uma Thurman out for dinner, it's she accidentally overdoses. Heroin while in his company and he has to rescue. This guy's wife or face certain death, right? And then at the end of that story, you have those characters kind of finding a moment of Saving Grace, which is she gets revived, she doesn't die.

11:13 They both kind of get a new lease on life. They had this handshake agreement to not talk about it with the boss Marcellus and they it's just really sweet moment where John Travolta kind of blows her a kiss and says good night and that's the end of it because what you expect is the big conflict is is John Travolta going to have sex with his bosses. A wife and what Tarantino's Rosie was something completely different. But where you end up, is this beautiful moment of kind of redemption for both characters. Yeah and the interesting thing for me about that moment is that Tarantino is not afraid to take forever to get there. No not at all, we talked about this and then glorious bastards episode about how Tarantino wants to to stretch that rubber band of tension and of suspense to the point where you think it can't stretch anymore without Yeah. And then stretch it three times further, right? And he does that three times in this movie and each, you know, story that he tells ya and you're just always on the edge of your seat.

12:12 Absolutely funny thing by Europe is what this little different. I mean, they got the same shit over there. They got. Here was just just there's a little different example. All right. Well you can walk into a movie theater in Amsterdam and buy a beer and I don't mean just like a little paper cut. I'm talking about a glass of beer and in Paris, you can buy a McDonald's. Do you know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese? A little color quarter pounder with cheese? Get the metric system, what are they called? They call it a Royale weeks ago. The Big Mac Big Mac Big Mac, but they call it Le Big Mac.

13:03 So, the way this movie is set up, was obviously not common at the time, telling a movie out of chronological order, and this movie kind of gets held up a lot as an example of postmodern art, because of the fact that it just doesn't care about structure. It doesn't care about any of these things, Tarantino kind of came out and said, listen, part of the fun is that if you understand movies, you're watching the Second Story which is about Bruce Willis as a boxer and you think you're watching the boxing, He body and soul, and then suddenly the characters in that story, turn a corner and there in the middle of the movie Deliverance. And if you know anything about Deliverance, it's a movie where these guys get descended upon by, you know, people that live in the mountains and they get raped essentially. And that's what happens in the second movie. And Tarantino says you're sitting, there is no viewer. Like, what, how did I get into Deliverance, I was in a boxing movie, what's going on here?

13:52 And what Tarantino's doing is his whole goal. Like I said, is to keep you off balance to throw things at you that you've never seen too complicated. You Asian in a way that it's never been done before. And I think, I mean, maybe I'm speaking just for myself here, but I think that every single time Tarantino does that in this movie, it works 100%. I would like for you to take an Instagram pole. Yeah, with this clip. Yeah, I don't think almost any of our listeners would have heard of body and soul or delivering. I've never heard of body and soul, I've heard of Deliverance. It was, it's a really famous movie from the 70s, okay? But Tarantino's, whole background is, right? He didn't go to film school. He worked in a video store. He's a nerd like he Watched every movie in the video store a hundred times. And that's how he got his whole knowledge of how to make a movie.

14:35 I was watching movies called Body and Soul. Yeah. And deliverance and thinking I should match these up and go home movie. Yeah, that's really interesting because when you watch Tarantino films, he has such a unique style. Yeah, I mean and that's like the most obvious take ever, but he's just so unique in the way that he makes a film. I never thought of it before that he really does. Do his best to mash different movie Styles together. And he does it so poetically and interestingly that he can pull it off. Yeah. But I don't know if many directors can, I don't think they can't either. And part of the fun of watching this movie, is, looking at how each one of these stories Tarantino kind of has a prologue to each one of them. Like, I think about the second story about the boxer with Bruce Willis, there's this random four-minute prologue with Christopher Walken, Christopher Walken.

15:22 And I want to get to that later because it's one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie. But the first story has a prologue with them killing the guys, and then the Second Story has a prologue with Christopher Walken talking to a young Bruce Willis, you know, when he was a kid. The third story has a prologue, which is the prologue to the whole movie at the beginning. And you have to think back to ours and we, and we thought that Inception Was A New Concept, right? Exactly. But the way this movie is, structured is absolutely brilliant and it's set up that each of these stories are put in their place to have the maximum impact on you. One of the most interesting things for me about the third Act of the movie was that you already knew that Vincent was dead. Yeah. So, that's like, so interesting. It's been 25 years.

16:02 We can spoil everything about the movie, but John Travolta's character Vincent. He gets killed by Bruce Willis in the second story. And then, the third story is basically a jump back in time to something that happened earlier. And we see Vincent alive again. And one of the funny things about how this movie was made, and it's really unpopular to talk about this human being now, but the movie was produced by Harvey Weinstein at Miramax Studios. When Harvey Weinstein, was given the script to read for this movie. He took it on the airplane with him and Aren T know being Tarantino. This script was like 150 pages instead of the standard like 105 or whatever. And so, Weinstein starts, reading the script and he calls his producer in the middle of the movie or his lawyer, whoever it is is Agent.

16:43 And he goes, what is this movie? You killed off the main character halfway through and the guy just said, just keep reading. And when Weinstein, finally got to the end of the movie, he called from the airplane and said, we have to make this movie get Tarantino on board now, but you're exactly right. I mean, they kill the main character. Halfway through the movie. So, the thing is, there's a lot of different characters in the movie, but I would like, would it be okay to say Samuel Jackson and John Travolta, are the main character, probably call them, the leads of the movie for, like, Bruce Willis is almost there because he's the main in the Second Story, right? But when you look at the book ends of the movie, I mean, it's, it's Samuel and John Travolta. Yeah, I would say, John Travolta. Probably is the main character. If y'all main, if you were gonna like a well again, I mean, the Oscars, they put John Travolta up as best actor, and they put Samuel. Loud as best supporting actor, but you told me that that's because they don't want them competing for the same thing, but sometimes they do.

17:35 I mean, so it's really depends on what the studio thinks is the main character. I would say the fact that the movie finishes with Samuel L Jackson, I agree. I would say he's the main 100% And I think he's the most important character for sure. Okay, so but I do want to say this, like the Second Story, the one with Bruce Willis. Yeah. It's all about this gold watch that would result in what. Yeah and that's the name of it. It's called the gold watch and for Whole life. Bruce Willis has had this prized possession of a gold watch that his dad war in Vietnam and we'll get into Christopher Walken or yeah. He wore in a certain place and it's been passed down for generations and Bruce. Willis is this fighter who was supposed to take a dive and doesn't, and before he can leave town, he finds out that his girlfriend forgot to grab his gold.

18:21 Watch off the Batman Fabian. Come on, Fabian. So he has to go back and get his gold watch and shenanigans ensue. Okay. Madison and against bad things in Sioux really bad things, bad things they could just send the top caganer bad things. Insist second, Quentin, Tarantino directs a movie called battling bad things and 6. So this second story is always kind of held up as the part where the movie sags, and I think it's because it's two-and-a-half-hour movie. This is the middle of the movie, but watching it back this time, I have to say, I think the second story is way better than people give it credit for. When you said, the words sags I was Yeah, I think that it's definitely the slowest moving.

19:03 It's like a slow burn because there's more action, people get shot and stuff in the other ones. Samuel Jackson is quoting the Bible. But when you really take a step back and you realize, this is an anthology, I think each one of these chapters, if you want to call them that work perfectly on their own. What do I favorite camera shots from the movie was in the second chapter when Bruce Willis gets out of the car he's going back to his apartment to get. Yeah the gold watch and the camera follows him through. Ooh a set of apartment buildings through. Yeah, you killed in he's kind of check it out his own apartment buildings at first you think like man he just parked in front his own part in building. He's an idiot, right? But that single following camera shot as he goes through the fence.

19:43 It's beautiful, it's so good. Great shot. Yeah, maybe this is a good time to talk about this because I feel like our podcast today is just all over the place but that's because this movie has this weird sort of episodic feel to it. So maybe we should just jump into talking about our favorite scenes in the movie. Yeah. And the funny thing is I wrote down like seven or eight Scenes and they just basically span the whole movie because the whole movie is just a great scene. Yeah, you got the prologue with Jackson and Travolta where Samuel Jackson eats a cheeseburger and shoots a guy and quotes the Bible. You read the Bible. Well, there's this passage. I got memorized Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil.

20:31 Men blessed, is he who in the name of Charity, and Good Will Shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children and I will strike down upon thee with great Vengeance and Furious anger. Are those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers and you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

21:11 It's fantastic. That's probably the most well-known scene of the movie. I would think so. Well that there might be one that's more well-known than that. And that would be the second one I wrote down, which is the dance between John Travolta. And Uma Thurman has become an iconic moment. Yeah, you're probably, you got you basically got fat, John Travolta, you know, who was in a total career slump at this point? I mean they did not want to hire him and Tarantino was like this movie doesn't get made of I can't hire John Travolta, really this movie complete career turnaround, for John Travolta. That's really it. You've got this iconic character of the 70s from Saturday Night Fever and grease getting on the screen and dancing again. Yeah, it doesn't get better than that. But one of the key scenes in this movie, it's in the first story, where Mia Wallace played by Uma Thurman has overdosed, and John Travolta has to plunge a needle through her breastplate and into her heart to restart her heart.

22:02 Yeah, it was at the New York Film Festival, and they started screaming this movie and it got to the scene with the needle and someone fainted in the audience. And they had to Down the aisles and find a doctor to revive this person because the scene was so intense that someone passed out. Hey, and Weinstein actually came out afterwards and said, I was afraid people thought that that would have been one of my publicity stunts but it really happened because it was so intense for. So I'm not going to lie for me that scene. Almost felt like it was a little bit forced. Interesting, how so like, for me that seen the rest of the movie really felt smooth and it felt like that scene. They were trying to force, not not a laugh. Laughs. That wasn't my favorite scene in the movie. One of the things I love about that scene is that they can find ways to get humor into it.

22:45 Even as you are on the edge of your seat, John Travolta's, arguing with his drug dealer, he takes Puma Thurman to the house of his drug dealer to try to revive her because he knows, he can't take her to a hospital and they're bickering back and forth. While Uma Thurman is just like laying there on her front lawn, you know, I think it is. I didn't like the performance of the drug dealer. Interesting. He just kind of struck me as this. Oh man. I don't know. There's something about the drug dealers just kind of like fake to me, huh? Does Feel sincere. So that actor is Eric Stoltz, he was pretty famous actor in the 80s and Tarantino kind of gave him a couple parts that he could pick from. In this movement he picked that part was one of the other parts. The part Jimmy actually played by Tarantino. Yes. That was the other part that he gave him an option to take. I could see Eric Stoltz playing that role as well playing Tarantino's part in the third story. Yes.

23:32 Interesting. I'm glad you picked that up because that was the other option that he gave him. Yeah, I could totally see him doing that role as well, and I think he would have been better in that. A troll. Okay, I don't know. There's something about this role that just felt fake and forced to me and granted. It's a minor role in the movie. That's all you ruined. The movie, or anything. Yeah. And he did fine in the role. I just didn't care for it. And so, maybe that's the reason why I didn't care for that seem quite as me. Yeah. One of the things that you don't really notice as you watch this movie is how big and expansive, it really is. And I realized it when I was watching that scene, with Bruce Willis, that you were referring to a minute ago, as he was walking through rows of apartment buildings that You watch each story. It's so immersive that you kind of forget about the other characters in The Other Stories, which I love I love that too.

24:17 And you don't realize Tarantino movie made this movie on. I think like an eight million dollar budget, and it has so many characters, So many actors, so many extras, it's essentially like an Epic film being told on this really small independent movie, budget and scale that you don't quite realize how big it is at times. That's eight million dollars. Yeah. Includes paying Samuel Jackson. Everyone took a pay cut for this movie. Yeah. And some of the bigger actors took a percentage of the profits but no one knew was going to be as huge of a cultural phenomenon as it was, they just wanted to really work with this new up-and-coming director. So was this a cult hit or did it truly make millions of the box, so it made a ton of money at the box office. So Tarantino made this movie, Reservoir Dogs in 1992.

25:00 It went to the con film festival and he was in demand from that point on and he'd already been developing Pulp Fiction. So they gave him a way, bigger budget for Pulp Fiction even though it seems paltry, right, right. He went off and made Pulp Fiction. I don't know, man. Eight million dollars does not seem poultry to me. Well, that's me. I wish I didn't know. Yeah, Zach now, he makes Pulp Fiction. They sell it on the power of people like, Bruce Willis, who is one of the biggest movie stars in the world. At that point, it goes to the con film festival and it wins the big prize which is called the Palm D'Or. The Golden Palm explain confident just in a few words. Yeah. So it's this Film Festival is held held in France. It's considered like the most prestigious Film Festival. It's also the one where the most critics go and in France like at the con Film Festival. People will like, Boo your movie during the movie if they don't like it.

25:43 It's just this crazy atmosphere, huh? So this movie wins essentially best picture the Golden Palm and from there it takes off. Weinstein, does his thing he pressures Academy voters? He does everything supposed to do. This movie gets nominated for best picture. So wine, seems good at pressuring people. Yeah. Right. Who would have thunk? But it blows up at the box office, I think it makes like, cumulatively like 200 something million dollars. Yeah, so like I said, Brad, this movie is a cultural. None man. I just looking at 90s culture that's amazing to me that just recognize culture hadn't fully let go of its 50 like we want to be like the 50's and wholesome. Well this movie shook that out of the 90, that's what I'm saying. That's the thing is we talk about 90s culture and in a way Pulp Fiction is 90s culture, like we're still in the earlier part of the 90s, we're getting into the mid-90s now, but I feel like the the decade hadn't, really defined itself and then Pulp Fiction comes out and from this point on everything we look back on culturally in in As media and TV in movies, it is because of Pulp Fiction.

26:43 And I don't necessarily want to use the word raunchy. Well, what you had was you came out off of the 1980s and if you remember like action movies of the 80s, they were like larger-than-life. It was Terminator it. Well. Yeah. And and all the other ones that Schwarzenegger made after that Commando and Predator you had Sylvester Stallone, making tons and tons of gratuitously violent movies. And here you have this guy Tarantino who he has a gratuitous violence but then he also has two characters. In a car talking about what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in Paris. And he really shifts the Paradigm of what it means to make an R-rated movie and it's all about dialogue. I never thought about that before. But when you compare it to the gratuitous films of the 80s, Tarantino is light years ahead of what they were doing. I mean, he takes film to a whole new level of and that's, that's the problem.

27:36 And the genius of of Tarantino is, is Is he just an idiot? That makes gratuitously gross movies. Or is he a genius? Yeah. That understands the human psyche and the human soul in ways that most people don't ya. Here's the crazy thing about this movie. I've probably seen it. I do 15 times. I love this movie, Brad. You really like this movie, too, and we're like a half hour into this podcast now, and I feel like we haven't even really gotten our minds around how to talk about it. How to start talking about? We haven't talked about any of the performances. Yeah, we haven't talked to any analysis of this movie. We're just getting our initial thoughts out there. Are and we're already at the time where we need to take a break. It's time for us to try some with. I need some whiskey right now. So Brad.

28:18 What do you say that? We try Weller antique, let's do it, man. Alright, so today we're talking about Weller antique now, we have tried Weller Special Reserve, which was Weller's, green label, a couple weeks ago and we're continuing our summer of bourbon. We're in week summer of bourbon, we're in week 5 of The Summer of bourbon. So there's one more to follow this. Bob I'm sad. I know right? I love, but I promised when we tried Weller Special Reserve that I would bring well or antique Weller. Antique full disclosure. This might be my favorite bourbon really? It's a thirty dollar bourbon. Well I think it smells like Crap. Bob if you can find it at retail it is a steal, it's $30 in the state of Ohio and I got it for $30, good job. But this is one of the two Weller's that you mix to make what they call Poor Man's Pappy.

29:10 You know what? Dude, the more we've done this podcast and warm like, what's so stinkin special about pain. That's the thing is that people who have had Pappy and who know, Pappy, pre the bourbon boom say, well, our antique might be better than Pappy and If you can get it for $30, please do. But if you go, you know, in other states people are marking this up till like 2:00 bottle. It's insane. But this this what we're drinking today 200 $200. So while our antique comes from Buffalo Trace Distillery, it is violet 107 proof so it's a little bit higher proof. That's one of the highest proofs we've drank. Yeah, so there's no age statement on it. We know that that means it has to be at least 4 years old.

29:51 The youngest in the blend has to be for. Right. Most people guess that this is closer to, like, a six-year-old blend. Brad, what are you picking up on the nose of this one? You know, this is given me very fresh notes and I don't want to say bright bright side, different word. It's it feels very refreshing to me. Yeah. Like like a glass of cold water on a hot day. I don't know. Yeah, it definitely is a little bit brighter, a little bit more fruity smelling than the Special Reserve that we had. And now we have been letting this mellow in our glasses for a couple of minutes. So we might, we may have missed some of those initial smells That you get with the bourbon of a vanilla, you know, the oak, the brown sugar, the maple Death and All for sure. But we go ahead and score this out though. Before we give it a sip.

30:36 What would you get on the nose? Brad? This is one of the most Pleasant Bourbons, I've smelled. I'm gonna give it an eight, an eight on the nose. Like that's pretty high, but I like it. Absolutely, I'm going to go ahead and give it a seven on the nose. It's not unpleasant, as Brad said, but it's also not doing a ton for me. And I think part of that is because we've been letting it sit for a couple minutes. I'm super excited to taste it. Why don't we give it a taste Brad? Yeah. I think that there's certain notes of vanilla that that hit through in ways that I haven't seen with other Bourbons. Yeah. What I love about this bourbon is that it is a perfect encapsulation for me of everything I want people to understand about bourbon. There's a little bit of smoke, but for me, I've said this before, I love sweet bourbons.

31:22 And this is a sweet, sweet bourbon. So Plato, the philosopher had these ideas of the ideal, the ideal Yeah, which essentially an ideal was the perfect version of what you would find on Earth. Yeah so this would be your platonic ideal look I'm not saying this is a perfect bourbon. What I'll say is this but is it close as it could come to on Earth? No, no, no, here's what I'll say about it, it just, it has everything. It checks all the boxes that you want to introduce someone to whiskey or to Bourbon with, that's got a little bit of a like, an interesting like Briny flavor to me. There's a little bit of that, like, so, All teenis but overwhelmingly sweet.

32:03 It's 107 proof. So you get an alcohol burn. It's got some spice to it. The Finish is Pleasant, it's not bitter. It goes down, smooth. It gives you that Kentucky hug. It literally, for me, it checks every box. If you were going to come to my house and say what Suburban, I would say. Here's some Weller antique, huh? I would agree with you on everything. You just said it has nice qualities in all of it. Yeah. But in a sense and don't crucify me for this is a jack of all trades. Master of none. Yeah, I get that. There is a sense of this, as an every man's bourbon. Yep. And I guess, honestly, like you said, it's a thirty dollar bourbon, right? So, it's not trying to be over-the-top at anything, but it's good at all of it. Yeah. All right.

32:43 So Brad, what would you score this on the taste on The Taste? I'm gonna give it a seven. It doesn't quite live up to the hype of the nose for me, okay? But it's still, it's still in a above. Average isn't quite good enough of a statement. Yeah, above above average. It's Good. Kind of like it's good ancient age. I had another adjective. I'm chipping my hand here. I'm giving this a nine and a half on taste. Wow, I love this bourbon. This is everything I want in a bourbon that's really high. Five told you man. I love sweet. Bourbons, this is a sweet High proof bourbon. That isn't aggressive? Yes, not harsh. Yeah. It doesn't punch in the face. Like a lot of the ride. Yeah, I mean if I asked you to guess if this was what the proof was on this would you have guessed this 107 roof above night?

33:29 Like a 94? Yeah nine. Six. Yeah, something like that. And it's rare to get something that's over. 100 proof. That doesn't give you that sort of like tongue punching aggressiveness. All right. So, Brad gave it a 7. I gave it a 9 and a half finish. What do you think? The Finish is smooth that and I say that in a good way and a bad way. Like, there's not a, there's not a ton going on on the Finish but that's a good thing. It moves from The Taste down the palate. Yeah, down the throat and it doesn't punch you in any way. Bueno. Hit you hard. Little bit of smoke. Yeah, I would probably give it a seven and a half on the finish. I'm over here, like kissing the bottle as Brad says, I love Bob attorney was real Italian. I am.

34:11 I'm like blowing kisses and wow, I'm gonna get an eight and a half, it doesn't have a perfect finish. But for what it is, I mean, it's just great. Brad. What would you score it at Finish wise, I would probably say about an eight at eight. It's a nice smooth finish. You would expect from a bourbon. Yep. Overall balance I'm gonna give it an 8 as well and eight. Yeah, it moves from nose to taste to the Finish really smoothly. If I had to use one word to describe this, it's smooth. Yeah, smooth. The only thing that I'm going to knock it for on the balance is that I didn't find the nose to be really compelling and it may have just been the glass. I was using and Brad and I are actually using different glasses for this tasting and we swapped glasses halfway through.

34:53 It changes things Brad. Your glass has a little bit more like a fluted thing going on and and the nose was fantastic on yours. But the place was completely different. Yeah. So I'm going to go ahead and say on overall balance, I'm going to give it an eight and a half, it's still incredibly well-balanced. I would have liked a little bit more out of that nose. And so that brings us to our final category which is value. Now, we've already said it's a thirty dollar bourbon, you might be paying 200 for it, if you're in a different state which is insane absent. You shouldn't pay 200 for any Bourbon ever. I'm serious. Like I would probably agree with that statement and and five years ago. Ten years ago, you wouldn't be Right. But the way that this bubble has been building, you're paying thousands of dollars for certain Bourbons now and it's just astronomically, it's ridiculous. So if you can get it at Cost even at $40 less, okay? Let's say $40 in Ohio, its 2999 right. But let's just say at $40, what's your value score bread? Add a 40 dollar price point.

35:51 I would probably give it a 7. Yeah, at a thirty dollar this and that's what it is. I paid twenty nine ninety nine for this at. Let's just go with what we paid. Twenty nine, ninety, nine, eight and a half. All right, I'll give it a 10/10. Not a 10 name, me a 30-dollar bourbon. That's better than this. I like that Jamesy. Pepper 17-7. Okay. Lat. All right. I would put that in a similar category of this and that was Thirty One dollars. But again I mean if those are the only two. Yeah I can't think of many then that would be a 10 for me. I can't find a 30-dollar burden better than this myself to a nine. Alright? Brad's give it a 9. I'm giving it a 10 that puts Brad out to a 40 out of Of 50 and that puts your boy Bob up to a 43 and a half, which puts us at an average of 40 1.75.

36:40 We did it. This is our top and look, I knew I was going to ask you the score a little bit but I'm so happy to see the Brad gave this a 40 out of 50. Is a good / but this is just darn good man. Yeah yeah. I mean our last one that we had this high was a Glenmore Angeles Santa. Yeah. Right. Which is great. I think we averaged out like a 39. Yeah. Something close to it we may have come to a 40. Yeah. And and that's a scotch and it's completely different whiskey and you might as well have calmly different categories for them but this is a really great bourbon. Yeah, the I think your description is the best. If you want somebody to understand the highs that bourbon has to offer you toss them. Some of this water antique. If you had to pay $200 a bottle of it don't actually I don't do that. I haven't held green label right. Show them that I will say this.

37:25 I think at the time I tried it, the best whiskey I had ever had was old Forrester prohibition. Okay, the 1920 that's sixty dollars a bottle. I can buy two bottles of this for the price of one old Forester prohibition. Now, that is like a completely different Beast, its 119 proof or something way thicker. It's a completely different bourbon. Very good bourbon, it's very good for $30. You cannot buy a better bourbon than Weller antique go buy it now right now. So topless and Brad, would you recommend? It's a redundant question. Oh great, terrible whiskey. Key. Yeah, this might be my favorite whiskey. It's, yeah, goodbye. Just it's so good. Go by it, go. Buy it. Go buy it. I'm so happy. We're talking about it with Pulp Fiction because it's something I can recommend alongside a movie.

38:09 I'd recommend. Let's talk about it. So that was well, they're antique, what do you say? We get back into talking about Pulp Fiction, Quentin Tarantino's 1994, Masterpiece Brad, true master. I mean, seriously it is, it's the work of a master and there are so many directions that we can go with this. Yeah, we haven't talked about the acting at all the performance. Yes. So why don't we just run down the list? Here, we'll start with. Do you want to start with the, the Lesser actors? How do you want to go? Let's, let's start with a lesser actors and move towards the Samuel and John. All right, well, why don't you leave the Way here. What lesser actor, do you want to talk about here? Thing reims.

38:50 Ving. Rhames is fantastic. Yeah, honestly, one of my favorite scenes from the movie and not because it's technically, brilliant or anything. And it's well done. When Bruce Willis is driving, and he's singing the song, The jamming he pulls up to the stop light and the little lady's walking by may, I don't know somebody walks by. But then Marsellus Wallace Ving Rhames walks in front and he kind of stops. And literally, he like takes like half a step backwards and looks at the car and he sees that it's Bruce Willis. A season is real. Yeah, I love it that so funny, it's so funny. Quentin Tarantino said that he respected Ving Rhames so much because the the, you know, the key scene in the second story is that Bruce Willis sees Ving Rhames who is the guy that's going to try to kill him when he goes back to get his gold watch he steps on the gas. He runs Ving Rhames over.

39:37 They end up chasing each other. Through the streets. They end up in this pawn shop where they're knocked unconscious by what can only be described as a hillbilly and they wake up in the basement of this pawn shop. And they I doubt that they are in the middle of some weird sex kinky stuff and that these guys are going to keep them and rape them, and Tarantino said that he respected Ving Rhames so much because he was the only actor that he tested, that did not mind the rape scene. And he said, Ving Rhames was so confident in his masculinity that. He's the only one that didn't ask Tarantino. What's this going to do for my see, my screen image and my Persona and he was completely committed to doing the scene and since then he's just been Ving Rhames.

40:17 In Mission Impossible. Yeah, I mean I didn't hurt his career at all and I think I think that kind of teaches us a little bit of a lesson in that Ving Rhames didn't care what was going on in that scene. So, you know, why should we in some way? But this was something that was like we should care about it because that was a, that's a hard thing to get through, for sure, super difficult. What I'm saying is all the actors that auditioned for that scene that was there. Hang up. They were saying like you got to cut away or I won't do it Ving. Rhames said, I understand the weight that this has for the story and I'm completely lately all in committed to doing it. Yeah. If we can just address for a second that scene because I think that scene is the reason why Pulp Fiction is such a hard movie to ever recommend. Yeah, and I know we're getting the very end of the sure, sure, the episode where we normally would you recommend?

41:01 It's hard for me to recommend any movie, that would include that type of material. Yeah, I completely understand. And and we talked about Inglourious Basterds when we reviewed that one and that movie has some over-the-top comically exaggerated violence, right? I hated watching the guys get scalped in that movie, right? This is a different Beast. I think that it's themes. Go way deeper and way darker. Yes. When we see John Travolta, injecting heroin into his veins in, what is only presented as what the way. It's filmed. It's glamorized almost right? When you see the brutality of Ving Rhames getting raped. I mean, you can't recommend this movie because people's tolerance to these things are going to be all over the place, right? It's not just that, it's the violence of the movie. It's the way that every action taken taken in the movie is violent.

41:48 Yes, there's something about this movie. That is so otherworldly. Yeah. Almost like holy of like this movie. Just evokes these sense of like like Samuel Jackson especially when he gives his Biblical quote from Ezekiel. Yeah, you just get this sense of other worldliness that this movie isn't normal. It's Way Beyond the plain of normal movies and it makes me go. I don't know what to do with this. Movie and it's all encapsulated in the second act, when Bruce Willis and Ving Rhames are dealing with Hillbillies who want to sodomize them. I don't know what to do with that. I don't know if I could ever recommend this movie, but I don't know if I could ever not recommend it. So, the first thing I would say to that Brad is, I think I used a word earlier to describe a smoothie, and it was epic, and I think, in some ways we have to look at Tarantino the way we look at like a Tolkien or a c.s.

42:43 Lewis are any of these people who craft these worlds? Because Tarantino does, Is an amazing job of world-building. Yeah. In this movie, and part of the reason this movie affects us, the way it does, is that. It's so immersive. We get into the world of this movie and it's so unique and it's like nothing we've ever seen. And we buy what Tarantino is selling. Yeah. I mean, it comes across as authentic and it comes across as unique because we don't see it anywhere else. But the reason this movie hits us at the level that it does is because Tarantino is so good at world-building, right? Yeah, let's delve back into Yeah yeah so I want to get back into talking about performances and one of the ones you to lighten the mood a little bit here that I loved so much was Christopher Walken because I think his seen his 15-minute scene or whatever it is is fantastic. And what I love about what Tarantino does is he's underrated as a director because when you look at the list of people in this movie, he has a bunch of actors that are not known for their subtlety and he makes them play really subtle like Christopher Walken.

43:47 Ian in this scene where he's talking to this young boy Butch for most of the scene he's talking in, like, a really quiet reverent tone and you don't see Christopher Walken, do that very often. I mean, you've got walk in, you've got John Travolta, you've got Harvey Keitel and Samuel L Jackson, none of whom are known for being like quiet introspective people and he puts him in these situations where you absolutely by Samuel L Jackson. You know in a face-to-face with Tim Roth talking about the Bible in a really hushed. Way. And he brings that out of his actors. I'm super impressed by what he does as a director. I would be really interested to see like behind the scenes footage of Tarantino coaching his actors over sure.

44:29 You know, me on how to evoke the emotions that they show and to give them their motivation and why they're doing the things they do. Yep. I just feel like Tarantino would be fascinating to listen to absolutely. Any thoughts on Christopher Walken? Christopher Walken is such an interesting character because cuz of the Cadence of his voice. Yeah. That like any role he does your kind of like oh that's Christopher Walken. Just mean Christopher Walken, right? This rule felt different it did because he wasn't just relying on the Cadence of his voice to kind of create Intrigue and interest. Yeah, his storytelling ability in this scene was one of the things I notice in this movie and that you don't get in later Tarantino is that he'll just kind of sit the camera like, in the corner of a room and let characters go in and out of frame and that Shot will last for like a minute and a half. And what they do with Christopher Walken is they just put the camera on his face and it's like an extreme close up. It's from eyebrows to chin and that's it. And walking holds the camera for, I don't know, probably a minute at a time and it's really compelling to watch. Let's watch Sonia, Daddy's, rest. When I was shot down over, Hanoi has captured putting a Vietnamese prison camp.

45:43 He knew that if I was on the watch be confiscated taken away. Well, your dad looked at it, this watch was your Birthright. He'd be damned if any it's going to put the grease Ela hands on his boys birth. Right, so he hid it in one place. He knew he could hide something his ass five, long years, he wore this watch up his ass, then he died of dysentery, give me the watch, I hit this uncomfortable. Hunk of metal at my ass two years then That's seven years, almost son. Hold my family. Now Oh man, I give the watch teal and then when he finally gets to the point of his story where he says, I put this watch in my but like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It becomes so funny because it's so unexpected. And again, we talked about Tarantino kind of subverting expectations but you're with Christopher Walken because he's crafting, this really serious drama about this walked that's been passed down for generations. And then all of a sudden He introduces? Yeah, I wore this inside my butt for five years and here you go. Now, it's yeah.

46:59 All right, so let's let's Zoom back a little bit from that and I want to talk about the leads but very briefly. I mean what are we going to say that hasn't been said before like Samuel L Jackson is good. Like we all know this we know Travolta was not wanted by the studio and Tarantino dug his heels and then he got Travolta I think Travolta's. Fantastic. I think more about that story at all. Yeah so throughout the 1980s Travolta had become basically bike box office poison you know he made It a sequel to Saturday Night Fever that was a bomb. He was in a few bombs in the 80s. And by the time you get to the early 90s, he's making these movies called Look Who's Talking, which about talking babies and he's like the voiceover of the talking baby, really? Yeah. Did he was here. He had kind of Hit the skids a little bit and so Tarantino really, really wanted him and Harvey. Weinstein had said listen, I can get you Daniel Day-Lewis right now for this role, Daniel Day-Lewis wants to play. Vincent Vega, really Tarantino said no and part of me really wants to see what Daniel Day-Lewis Vincent Vega looks like, but we didn't get Daniel Day-Lewis. We got John Travolta and I think they made the right call. Yeah.

48:00 What did you think of Bruce Willis in this movie? I would say one of his best performances because he Bruce Willis shines, when he moves from one extreme to the other. Mmm, you know what I mean? Like, when I think about him in the Sixth Sense, Hailey Joe Osmond is the star of that movie, right? The like honestly bruseles kind of / turns in a blase performance in that. Movie where he just kind of mopes through the movie. Yeah, which works for his role. But like in this movie, you get Bruce Willis at his best, where he plays that cool calm boxer, who's fully in control of everything up to the psychotically angry. That his girlfriend.

48:42 Forgot the most important thing to him in the world. Yeah, there's something about him that Bruce Willis makes that transition from calm to psychotic so well, that you get the best of And this movie. Absolutely. And I don't know that I would call his performance like in the sixth sense for instance blase but I think it gets that what you're saying? I think Bruce Willis does the best when he's given material where he's allowed to have Quiet Moments. Yes, because so many of his movies, especially now that he's getting into, you know, older adulthood where he's, he's just making these direct-to-dvd action. Movies are all about covering up those moments where he's not vulnerable, where he is just blowing stuff up all the time. But the reason we loved him in the sixth sense and the reason we love him in this movie is because there's so many stretches where he has to carry the scene as an actor, in a quiet moment and I think he Nails it here. Yeah, his scenes with Fabian and the hotel room he does. He hits every note that you need him to hit right? Whether it's the low notes of the chill notes, the quiet notes or the angry, the Furious, he he moves between those two extremes so well yeah, it's funny.

49:49 As I'm saying this I'm realizing one of the other actors in the The entire Pantheon of actors that does it so well. Samuel Jackson. Yeah. And I think it's time we talk about Samuel Jackson. Because, in my opinion, not only does he steal the movie, but he's the key to the whole movie. He, it's interesting because if you just watch the YouTube clips of this movie and you only see him quoting Ezekiel and you know, gunning down a guy, you don't get the full breadth of what Samuel L Jackson does in this movie. And it makes me kind of sad for we're not not for where his career went because obviously he's had a great career for sure, but it's very rare that we see him operate on this level of subtlety that final scene in the diner where he's talking in a very quiet tone to the guy that he has at gunpoint. And he said, telling him all about that Bible verse and what it means to him.

50:42 And you will know, I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance. Upon you. I've been saying it for years, and if you heard it, that meant your ass, I never gave much thought to what it meant. I just thought it was some cold-blooded you to say to him before I popped a cap in his ass and something this morning made me think twice. See now I'm thinking maybe it means you're the evil man and I'm the righteous man and mr. 9 millimeter here, he's the shepherd. Protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. Now I'd like that.

51:31 But that ain't the truth. The truth is. You're the weak. And I am the tyranny of evil men. But I'm trying Ringo. I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd. You see something in Samuel Jackson's eyes in his tone of voice that he covers up so often by yelling things and I just feel like maybe he's worked with lesser directors or something. But I want that Samuel L Jackson all the time because he knocks it out of the freaking Park. I was going to say I feel like Tarantino, lets him go there. Yeah.

52:15 You know, to me he gives him the freedom to do with that part what he will. And he Nails it, he why? You said he knocks it out of the park. Absolutely. And I want to focus Sit on that last scene because I think it's time we get into our analysis and our final scores, a little bit. The whole key to this movie is Samuel Jackson's character of Jules Winnfield and it's really a story about Jules is redemption, right? It really is. And I think, like I said earlier, it's a on a smaller scale as a story about a lot of these characters, kind of finding their Saving Grace. You know, at the end of Bruce Willis is story, he rides out on a motorcycle and the name of the motorcycle is Grace, right? You know what I mean? For sure, but in Samuel Jackson story, you see it. Happen in the most explicit way. And he starts talking about how God intervened in his life and that he doesn't understand why he doesn't understand what it is, but he understands that he felt he says I felt the touch of God.

53:09 And John Travolta says why he says, I don't know why but he knows that he says I can't go back to sleep. And what this movie is really about is these two paths that these two characters take because Jules Samuel Jackson leaves the life of crime. We Him in the third area in the in the story, with Bruce Willis and we know that John Travolta does. I think that this is a miracle decides to continue on in this life of crime and he dies because of it, right? And so it really is a story about Redemption and Samuel. L Jackson even said the people in this movie in Pulp Fiction. The people who are worth saving get saved the two robbers pumpkin and honey. Bunny get saved, they get each shut they get another chance.

53:52 That's their Redemption, Uma Thurman's. Sir. He said has the chance to die but she didn't die. Butch Bruce Willis's character gets another chance. Marcellus Wallace even gets another chance and I think he's getting at something here and Brad, I want to know what your take is on. What you think, kind of the moral of the story is here and whether Tarantino kind of nails it with the way the he wrote it. That's so hard. Is there a moral to this story? Yeah, because I look at this movie and I just think to myself man, when you see all the horror that that In this movie. I yeah, the crazy thing that go on like, can there be something redeeming to it? And I think that there is there's something about this movie that Taps into the depth of Humanity's depravity. Yep.

54:38 And Brokenness. Yep. That when you, you look at the end and you look at where Jules comes to, you see that there's a point where he has a certain faith in a better world or a better place or a better plan that God has for him. Yeah, that Vincent never comes to, right? The Vincent has this doubt about and you see how it turns out. And I think that's one of the most beautiful things about the third scene of the movie is that you know that Vincent Vega is dead. Yeah, I don't know why, but as we've been talking about this movie, that fact has grown on me to consume to be the whole point of this movie, is the third, the third act, knowing what happens. Yeah. In the second half, which is chronologically the final part of the movie, but the fact that they have that conversation in the diner, at the end of the movie, Even they John and Samuel they you know Samuel Jackson and the robber have this conversation about Grace and Redemption. Yeah and he realizes that these people are the sheep that need to be protected.

55:37 Yeah. And that God has called him protect these people. And then you realize the fact that Vincent doesn't understand that lesson and he's actually dead. Yeah, there's so many things going on. Oh yeah. That I go Tarantino's Beyond any of us. What I love about and I said this in our Inglourious Basterds, Bastards episode. And I'm glad that I can say it again. Now, I feel like Tarantino makes a movie that super nihilistic and dark and has no point and then he makes a movie about Redemption, and it seems like he goes in this cycle. So, like, Reservoir Dogs. I know you haven't seen it. I'd love to watch it with you soon. It has this very nihilistic tone to it. Pulp Fiction has a Redemptive tone. You know, we talked about Inglourious Basterds. It seems like it's super nihilistic. Yes.

56:19 And and cynical Django. Unchained is hopefully it's Redemptive and I think territory. Was at his best when he's writing towards Redemption, for sure. So Brad, if you had to give this movie A score out of 10 with the challenges that it presents but also knowing what a landmark of cinema this is and still 25 years later, what a unique Vision. This is. What would you give it 9.5? I think I'm right there with you. I want to give it a 10. See that I wanted to give it a 9? Yeah, but I think we have to meet in the middle here, a little bit there. A couple things in this movie that I don't think of edge super well. I think there's a couple little pacing issues but overall, you know, I forget. Now I'm giving it a 10. I have to give it a 10, it's just I started it and about 15 minutes and I was like, oh maybe I won't like this as much because I'm watching what the more critical eye and by the end of it, I was like nope it still takes me there every single time, it takes you on a journey that no other movie can I'm giving it a 10 out of 10, I'm sticking at a nine and a half out of ten.

57:18 All right? For me, the true struggle that I have. Do you need to delve? To the true depravity of humanity. Yeah. To get to the lessons that he does. Yeah, I don't know if you do well and I think that that just comes with the territory with Tarantino it does. You never not going to take us there 100%? Yeah Tarantino. I don't know how to describe it. He's ridiculous. Oh yeah, the way that he takes you to places is observed and over-the-topness even begin to describe what he's doing. Yeah. And that's why I can't give it a 10 out of 10 because I just I don't know if we have to go as deep as he takes. Yes, I get that.

57:59 This is not a movie that's going to be for everybody. Yeah. And I don't know that I would tell like my mom to watch this movie. I hope you know that you wouldn't tell. Yeah, absolutely. That doesn't mean that it's not a singularly Unique Piece of movie making, right? And that's what this is. So Brad gave it a 9.5. I gave it a 10 but we want to know what you think. So please hop on Twitter, hop on Instagram, hop on Facebook. Hit us up on social media. Where can they find us at film whiskey, with an e at film whiskey? Next week, we will be back talking about the 2009, hit 500 Days of Summer. I feel like we've gone from Lion King. We're all over the map and in to 500 AC. Reduce a little bit of levity next week. We'll talk about 500 Days of Summer for the film and whiskey podcast.

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