Inglourious Basterds / Basil Hayden's

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In 2009, director, Quentin
Tarantino wrote and directed a

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movie that literally changed the
course of world history in 2019.

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Jim Beam gives us a small batch
Bourbon that tries to change the

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course of bourbon history.
The film is Inglourious

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Basterds, the whiskey is Basil
Hayden and we'll review them

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both.
This is the film and whiskey

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podcast.
Welcome to the film and whiskey

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podcast, were each weekly review
a classic movie and a glass of

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whiskey.
I'm Bob book.

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I'm Reggie and he is Jordan
McCain.

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Jordan McCain.
Welcome back to the show, man.

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Thank you very much your debut.
Two weeks ago, has been met with

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glowing praise.
I doubt that well me too, but

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you're back this week, we're
looking at this week.

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We are looking at the 2009 film
Inglourious, Basterds gentleman.

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Had you seen Inglourious
Basterds prior to this watch?

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I actually started watching it
and college and quit when they

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started.
Scalping people decided it was

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so like movie for like 15
minutes and yep, pretty much

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right after the opening scene.
Yeah, he laughs.

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He's gone.
So he had seen like one

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twentieth of this film.
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Yeah, I had seen it before my
dad and I watched it probably in

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about 2009 or 10 know whenever
it first came out on DVD.

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So yeah, I'd seen it before and
I remember my the only

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overarching feeling I remember
from it was that it was kind of

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boring boom that like kind of
kind of long shots fired.

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It's very good fellows.
Ask yeah.

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Yeah every long The movies,
they're just very well that it's

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very good Falls that, you know,
what's really?

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I think that's actually a really
good point because I found this

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movie to be really episodic.
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And in Tarantino's known for
having chapters in his movies.

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But never had, I seen a movie
that Tarantino had done where

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characters are, like, completely
confined to the chapter that

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they're in and they don't impact
the rest of the movie at all.

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And I thought, I really
struggled watching this movie

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all the way through as like one
narrative and They influence

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each other.
But yeah, guys.

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I think I might be with you on
this movie and we'll save our

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most of our criticism for the
end.

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Yeah, but not my favorite.
Quentin Tarantino movie.

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Yeah, were shots fired.
Now, have you guys seen any

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other Tarantino I've seen Django
Unchained and Kill Bill one.

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Okay, I have seen the first half
of Pulp Fiction and it's turned

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movies off so many the first
half, I'm telling you see in the

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movie, Pulp Fiction, bad things
happened, That's true.

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That's pretty much the tagline
for every Tarantino bad things

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happen.
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So long story short I've seen
that and I've seen Django

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Unchained.
Yeah, well of Django and change

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good and I liked what I saw
mostly of Pulp Fiction.

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Now I will give my hot take
because I've told you guys this

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before and most people that know
me know this about me, right.

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I think Django Unchained is the
best movie Quentin Tarantino has

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ever made.
Sure, I think it's better than

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Pulp Fiction and I'm in the very
small minority saying that but

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because in glory, Afterwards and
Django came out back-to-back in

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his catalog, right?
I'm going to be comparing them a

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lot because I think everything
he does in Django hits the nail

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on the head and very little of
what he does.

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In Inglourious Basterds works
for me, huh?

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Well, it seems like I was
looking at his film catalog as

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well and it seems like whatever
kind of style he's attempting to

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create it.
He uses a lot of it from

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Inglourious Basterds to Django
including a lot of the same

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actors correctly source for
Nolan I started doing using the

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same people over and over again.
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Absolutely.
A lot of them are in the hateful

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eight as well, right, right.
The same people so it could just

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be the beginning of.
He's kind of found his Niche and

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really wants to move with it,
right.

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I don't think it's unfair to
compare them, so let's talk a

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little bit about Tarantino the
filmmaker here because at this

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point, he had made, I don't
know, six movies and like that

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Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction,
Jackie Brown both of the kill

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bills and then if you want to
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Grindhouse movie, you can count
that too.

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And so, he's a seasoned vet, one
of the most acclaimed, directors

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in Hollywood, one of the most
controversial directors in

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Hollywood.
For sure.

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I think he bit off more than he
could chew with this movie.

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I think the subject matter
requires a level of sensitivity

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that he does not have.
And I'm not saying you have to

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like, sanitize your film because
Django wasn't like that, all

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right?
But when you're doing a movie

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about World War 2 and the
Holocaust.

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Yeah.
And you know Jewish Vengeance

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and things like that.
It's a little to flip it, for

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me.
It's a little too.

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Like it doesn't take the subject
matter seriously and it seemed

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like he just used it as an
excuse to get kind of his more

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perverse and nihilistic world
view out there.

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Okay, I'm so glad you're saying
this because I really struggled

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with that how he handles
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Like, I didn't struggle with it
as much as how he handles racism

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in Django.
But I did struggle with how he

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deals with the Third Reich.
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I don't mind them him creating a
parity which is always been used

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to combat a Prejudice or to
combat some kind of regime.

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A parody often works for that is
often one of the most thoughtful

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ways.
But when does a parody become

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insincere and no longer.
Take the subject matter is

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trying to parity, seriously?
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And I think part of what he does
with the movie too and obviously

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guys, if you've listened in
podcast you know we're getting

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into spoilers but the character
of the Bear Jew.

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Is one of the most problematic
characters, I think Tarantino's

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ever written because that is a
character that is so motivated

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and fueled by hatred.
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And it's Justified hatred.
Don't get me wrong.

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The, not everything that happens
to the Nazis in this movie is

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deserve while desert, right?
But he sinks to the depths as a

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character that morally make him,
no better than the people that

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he's murdering.
At the end of the film.

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There's something about the
ending of this movie.

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That is just disturbing to me.
Really unsettling.

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And and when they're in that
theater in there, gunning down

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the people in that theater, they
cut to this close-up of the bear

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Jew.
You know, Donny with this

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machine gun and it's this look
of just pure Vengeance and

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hatred and it in the film.
Does a good job of making me

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struggle with these things, but
I'm not sure that Quentin

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Tarantino is a sophisticated
enough writer and director that

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he intended that to be the case,
I think he really got caught up

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in.
It would be cool.

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To see a Revenge fantasy.
Yeah, here's how I'm going to

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play it out.
And some of the finer points of

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like the morality of this movie,
get, get lost in the mix for me.

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We will be cruel to the Germans
through our cruelty.

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They will know who we are.
And they will find the evidence

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via cruelty and the disemboweled
dismembered and disfigured

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bodies.
Their brothers, we leave behind

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us.
And the German won't be able to

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help themselves, but imagine the
cruelty, their brothers, endured

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at our hands and our boot heels,
and the edge of our knives.

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And the German will be sickened
by us and the German will talk

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about us and the German will
fear us when the German closes

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their eyes at night and they're
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for the evil, they have done, it
will be with thoughts of us.

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They are tortured with It's a
good.

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That's what I like to hear.
All right, so, we'll get into a

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little bit more of Tarantino, as
a writer director, and a little

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bit.
But guys, I want to hear your

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thoughts on the acting in this
movie because this is one of the

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bigger ensembles Tarantino had
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And I think across the board,
the performances are really

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great.
Yeah, out-of-this-world.

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Yeah, totally.
So if you had to pick number one

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performance in the movie, who
would you highlight Christoph?

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Waltz Christoph Waltz for sure.
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He's not very favorite.
Brad Pitt's my favorite.

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Yes, but he didn't do the best
Christoph.

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Waltz.
Brad Pitt is so The me in this

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movie because it's like, is he
really bad or is he really,

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really good?
I don't know.

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Yeah.
I he just I feel like Brad Pitt

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has taken this weird turn in his
career where he just kind of

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takes on these weird projects I
love it.

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Yeah.
And does weird roles and he's

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great at them.
Yeah, for sure.

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So getting back to Christoph
Waltz then of course.

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What is it about that
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It's his sincerity.
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It's the way that he is
terrifying because Cuz he's so

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assured of his own power.
Yeah, of he's so assured of the

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outcome that will happen in any
given situation.

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That the only time in the entire
movie, you see him off kilter is

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when he realizes that Brad Pitt
isn't going to do what he

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thought he was.
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And other than that, he knows
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all the time.
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And if he just, he controls
every scene, he's the thing that

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makes him such a great villain,
is that he's not like that.

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Mustache twisting guy like he's
not you know man I'm gonna take

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all your money.
Say look it's not that bad but

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you know the word that kept
popping in my mind and this can

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be really silly but I kept
thinking of impish.

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Yeah he's like a little happy
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He's so is he kind of like a
playful like a low-key?

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He kind of he's like playful and
cunning and you go a long with

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his sort of Flights of Fancy but
you know that underneath it

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there's this current of
intimidation.

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Yeah.
You know that whole opening

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sequence which I'm sure.
We're going to get into.

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I think that's the best part of
the whole film.

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Yeah, I agree.
He's sitting at the table of

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this guy La Petite and just all
sorts of charm and then you get

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the comic relief of can I smoke
my pipe and he pulls his

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private?
It's like comically large.

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Yeah, but he's able to convince
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he is smarter than everyone in
the room that he's calculating.

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Right?
But that he's also capable of

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doing unspeakable things.
It's so well-written.

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He's yeah, he's so well written.
If you Tarantino wrote this

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script and I was kind of like
doing some research on the film

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and he was talking about how
he's actually had this script

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with him or like close to his
chest for about eight or nine

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years and he honestly thought it
couldn't be made because he did

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not think anyone could play that
character.

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Yeah.
Until Christoph Waltz auditioned

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for it and then that was
basically his own green lighter.

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And I yeah I can't imagine
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East and sincere.
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Freaking creepy the whole time
and the amount like as an actor

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to he speaks four languages in
this film.

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Yeah flawlessly.
Sure.

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And he does it amazingly he.
Yeah Christoph.

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Waltz is performance.
Just I would truly say is one of

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the best performances in any
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It's great and it was totally
deserving of the Oscar.

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Yeah, that he won.
I feel like we need to point

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that out.
You know, it's similar to who

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reminds me of the tension I
felt.

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Did you guys see baby driver?
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The foxes character and baby,
Joy interested, maybe you feel

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the same way because even though
you knew he was evil, he was

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really Earnest and like smiled a
lot.

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But every time he was more
overtly threatening their sure

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he was.
Yeah, every time he walked on

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screen, you were terrified,
that's how I felt every time

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this guy walks on.
See ya Rick Something's Gonna

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hit was interesting you know who
I would actually.

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Think about him being a
comparison to is Sherlock

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Holmes.
Hmm yeah, well an evil person.

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I'm a detective Yeah and I'm a
good one.

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Yeah, the only other person that
I made note of which is saying

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something because I only made
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of Shoshanna.
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My gosh.
And it's because they only she's

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the only other one in the movie
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Yeah, and they give her an
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tear.
At one point, you see her being,

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you know, paralyzed with fear
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in that restaurant scene.
What'd you guys think of

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shoshana?
So I think that the movie would

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Been better served if the
Inglourious Basterds weren't

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even a part of it.
I completely agree with that.

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Movie was a movie about
Shoshanna.

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Yes.
And Lieutenant lies.

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It would be one of the best
moves.

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Bastard, serve, no narrative
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bothers me.
Every time I watch it because

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you see the opening with
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It comes in on the bastards.
Yep.

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And you know, you think you're
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on.
And the next time you see them,

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they're already in Europe.
They've already made a name for

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themselves.
They've attacked this, you know.

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These German troops, right?
And they really just kind of

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float in and out of the movie.
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And you know, obviously if you
know the end of the movie where

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the theater blows up and
everything else, it's it's a

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thing that Tarantino's guilty of
it, a lot of ways, but it's

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Overkill.
Yeah, because shoshana would

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have done it anyway.
So the bastards really serve no

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purpose to this film and I'm so
happy.

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You pointed it out.
Yeah, yeah, it drove me nuts.

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I literally realized it because
I thought about and I was like,

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obviously the bar scene last for
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obviously the bastards are kind
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But even that it's the British
secret service agent and to the

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bastards that aren't really a
part of the conversation, right?

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And so when you really think
about it, the bastards are

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barely in the move they are.
And you don't learn anything

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about them through the whole
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Yeah.
The only thing you learn is when

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like Samuel L Jackson comes in
with random narration to kind of

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fill things in.
And I think this speaks a lot to

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Tarantino's writing.
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Because it sent, you know, he
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him a decade to write this movie
and I wonder sometimes where

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that effort was spent because in
my opinion, this is Tarantino's.

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Worst script that he's ever
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There's no character development
and the ones that get developed

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are the ones that died off too
early.

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Yeah.
So like you see Hickox the

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British guy who's your
introduced to him in this big

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scene with Churchill.
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And then the next time you see
him, he's going into this bar to

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Rendezvous and then he's dead.
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And he serves no purpose to the
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And you literally spent a half
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him only to watch him die and
not have any impact on the

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outcome of the movie.
The scene ends up the only

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character that goes on.
Is that actress, right?

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And then she gets choked out.
Yeah, 10 minutes later which is

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super intense part of the
problem that I have with it.

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And we've already mentioned that
the bastards just kind of come

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in and out of the movie.
The character that BJ.

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Novak plays.
You davich.

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Yeah, you don't hear his name
spoken on screen until Brad Pitt

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is Is captured put in the back
of the truck with a bag on his

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head and he goes, you to pitch
right?

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And then he says, yeah, it's me.
So you literally you go to plus

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h of this film without even
knowing that character's name

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and then he's one of the only
two that survive at the end.

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Does he have any lines aside
from saying sir?

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Yes sir at the beginning?
I guess he has a couple towards

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the end and again like there's
no character development remark

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and that was honestly hard for
me.

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Having watched the office.
Yeah, really character of Ryan

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because he's killing people like
it was just Ryan stand there and

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I hated him in the Only, you
know and and what Tarantino does

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with kind of killing these
characters off.

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Prematurely, I understand that
he wants to keep us on our toes.

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Yeah, it comes across to me as
too showy that he's trying to

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show off and by the end of it,
he's killed off so many crucial

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characters that he doesn't quite
know how to land the plane.

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Yeah.
And it really pulled me out of

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the movie because the only
characters that I was

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emotionally invested in are not
the ones I'm watching towards

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the end.
Well I don't know if I'd agree

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with that because Lambda Lando
Orlando.

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It's not Billy.
Dee Williams Aldo Raine no

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Lieutenant, Lan de Holanda.
Yeah.

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Are the only two, I really care
about and they're there at the

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end of Surety.
So, to me, I I personally feel

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like those character arcs
mattered.

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You could have just cut out the
other character arcs.

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Even the British guy, right?
He was okay, you could have done

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something with him.
But yeah, I personally was

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really attached to Mike Myers
for the ten seconds that he was

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on screen wasn't great.
Yeah, that was Brad and I both

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go that Mike my answer was but I
think this is Tarantino as a

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screenwriter like at his most
showy like yeah.

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He's oh I can write in four
different languages and I can

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make these scenes that go on way
too long.

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The, the sequence in the bar
it's very suspenseful yes.

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But it goes in waves because you
have the one table that finishes

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a whole game of the credit card
game.

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And then you're like, okay,
let's get into this.

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Yeah.
And then the other tables are,

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it's playing a card game, and
it's just like, He's delaying

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what needs to happen and some of
it suspenseful and some of it is

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just okay you could have cut a
few pages out of this script.

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Well we were watching an
interview with Tarantino

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talking.
I don't know if it was about

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specifically that scene but he
basically said that for True

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suspense and drama to happen.
It's almost like you're

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stretching a rubber band I've
ever heard this analogy and he

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basically says, you're just
you're stretching the rubber

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band and you keep stretching and
stretching and stretching and

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you might seem like you're going
to get relief at certain We're

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going to get away with
stretching the rubber band even

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further but eventually the
rubber band has to snap and

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that's the moment that we're all
waiting for.

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Ya said my and he literally said
my goal as a director is to try

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to stretch that rubber band
further than anybody else could

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ever stressed.
And I think that that backfired

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here.
Yeah.

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That's just my opinion on that.
But yeah, you know, so much of

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the dialogue to is centered
around politeness and niceties,

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right?
Like you've got people asking

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permit, you know, Hans Landa is
always say.

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Is it okay if I do this is man,
speaking English, please, and I

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understand why he's doing it.
But after the fifth time it

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happens, it's like we need
Exposition, we need dialogue,

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that moves, his plot forward,
and I can't spend another five

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minutes listening to him.
Ask, you know, if it's okay to

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take his shoes off, you know, I
mean, see, I enjoyed that every

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single time Lieutenant landed
it, I forgive it because it's

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Christoph Waltz and he can do
whatever he wants.

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Yeah.
That's and I guess that's where

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I go back to and when you said
it took Him a decade to write

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this.
To me.

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It felt like he just got lost in
the weeds.

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Yeah, and maybe he initially had
something better planned for the

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bastard unit.
Hmm.

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But it just kind of got lost and
didn't translate well, whereas

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to me land and Shoshanna.
Yeah.

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And her relationship with the
gentleman at the movie theater.

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I thought brought a lot of depth
to the movie.

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Yep.
It really was just the bastards,

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which is funny because that's
what that's the title game

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though.
Sure.

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Yeah.
It's a struggle.

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I think my struggle was just to
Sean has narrative is that you

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view most of it through the lens
of her being pursued by the

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German officer instead of her,
being able to tell her story in

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her own way.
She kind of does when she

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finally decides, she's going to
blow up the movie theater but

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every inciting incident and
maybe that's like, I do think

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what Quentin Tarantino does
super well.

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Is that he demonstrates?
How much power?

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The Third Reich had because no
matter what they were doing,

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anyone who was part of It was
able to go anywhere they wanted,

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they felt completely at ease and
every situation they never had

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to worry about being nervous or
that things were weird that

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anybody was going to attack them
like every other character

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literally did.
Right?

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Because they have no power.
Yeah, and so maybe that's how he

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just wants to further
demonstrate how that power is

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exercised through.
I can't remember the guy who

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pursues her the German officer,
Daniel Bruhl plays him but I

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can't think of his name off the
top of my head and I just a

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sniper.
Yeah, I thought he was pretty

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good but I would have liked I
don't know, I don't feel like

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she was characterized as well on
her own as she was just through

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the lens of her being pursued,
and keep saying no over and over

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again and then she finally gets
the chance to like vengefully

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kill all the Nazis, right?
Oh that's that's fun.

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Yeah, that scene though when her
face is on the movie screen and

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that good plays into the
disturbing nature of it.

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For me, like, if there's
something unsettling about that,

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and it's not, it's not
cathartic.

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You spent the whole movie like,
yeah, these guys are going to

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get there.
Come up and then I think to see

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it happen and it's it's not
really scored to any music.

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Yeah.
And its destructive and I think

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maybe that is something
Tarantino's trying to show on

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purpose and I'll give him credit
for it if that's the case.

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But man, that seen just did a
number on me.

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Well, I this might not be the
best thing to bring up but I

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hadn't even thought about her
being Jewish and she dies and

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her final image in the movie is
her on fire.

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Hmm.
Yeah, I mean Holocaust imagery

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again but but Get bright back
into like, is Tarantino being

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too playful, right?
With a really sensitive topic

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and that brings me back to.
Well, I guess maybe.

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I think about it though.
And I look at Aldo Raine, who is

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the most ridiculous character in
the movie.

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But in the end, what his
ultimate goal is, to make sure

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that nobody forgets the Third
Reich.

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Sure.
Nazis for what it is.

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Yeah.
And I think maybe that's, maybe

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this is Tarantino's movie trying
to say and he might not do it

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well like we've said, but maybe
this is his movie trying to Say

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hey don't forget what the Third
Reich had done.

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That's a fair point.
If a rat were to walk in here,

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right now, as I'm talking, would
you clean it with a source of

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your delicious milk?
Probably no, I didn't think so.

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You don't like them.
You don't really know why you

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don't like them.
All, you know, is you find them

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repulsive.
Consequently, a German soldier

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conducts.
A search of a house, suspected

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of hiding Jews.
Where does the hawk look?

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He looks in the barn and looks
in the Attic.

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It looks in a Cell.
Oh he looks everywhere, he would

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hide.
But there's so many places, it

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would never have occurred to
hock to hide.

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How about the reason the fuel
has brought me of my arts and

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Austria and place me in French
Cow Country today is because it

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does occur to me.
Because I'm aware of a

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tremendous Feats.
Human beings are capable of.

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Once they abandon dignity, I do
think that Tarantino in this

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movie is just a little bit too
nihilistic.

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I don't think there's a lot of
Hope in this movie, and I think

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that if you watch Tarantino's
movies, he kind of goes back and

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forth between like, really
hopeless or nihilistic movies,

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00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:50,400
and really Redemptive movies.
So like Reservoir Dogs, everyone

452
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,100
dies, nihilistic Pulp Fiction,
super Redemptive movie, you

453
00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:56,800
watch the character, Samuel
Jackson's character, Jewels

454
00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:58,900
become redeemed out of that
lifestyle, right?

455
00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:01,000
You know, with Inglourious
Basterds, you see this?

456
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,900
This nihilistic everyone dies,
there's no meaning to any of it.

457
00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:07,300
And then you could Django, which
is the story of a liberation of

458
00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:09,500
a slave.
And, and that's part of what I

459
00:23:09,508 --> 00:23:13,300
hated about hateful eight as
well, is that his outlook on

460
00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:17,300
race relations in that movie, is
that they're all a facade.

461
00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:19,400
We should just relations are all
racing.

462
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,500
That's my interpretation of
hateful eight and we don't need

463
00:23:21,508 --> 00:23:24,900
to get into that today, but I
really think that Tarantino like

464
00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:27,900
goes back and forth and
vacillates between having films,

465
00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:30,300
where there's something
Redemptive happening and having

466
00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:31,800
films, where there is
Redemption.

467
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,800
Right?
And I think he's at his best as

468
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,800
a filmmaker when he allows the
Redemptive elements to kind of

469
00:23:36,808 --> 00:23:39,400
come through.
Yeah, it's difficult for me,

470
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,500
especially when we compare it to
a sophisticated movie that I

471
00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:47,600
feel like handles the atrocities
of the Holocaust really well

472
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,300
like one of my favorites is
Schindler's List.

473
00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:53,100
So sure I watch it once a year
and I don't know if you sat down

474
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:54,900
this is going to this might
sound really gross but if you

475
00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:57,700
sat down and said which of these
movies is more cathartic like

476
00:23:57,700 --> 00:24:00,400
which do you feel like glorifies
the experience in which one do

477
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,400
you really feel?
Like portrays it.

478
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,900
Well I would just I guess I
would personally have a hard

479
00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:10,000
time believing that the image of
Vengeance that Inglourious

480
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,700
Basterds portrays versus the in
the image of a person.

481
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,000
Personally putting up their life
at stake to help people on a

482
00:24:19,008 --> 00:24:21,200
one-to-one basis.
I don't know, you know what I

483
00:24:21,208 --> 00:24:22,900
mean?
And I do feel like we need to

484
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:25,500
say it's not Tarantino's job to
make.

485
00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:29,000
That kind of inspect.
He doesn't have to write, but it

486
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000
does make me question.
Why does this?

487
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,800
Exist, why does this need to be
made?

488
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:36,800
Yeah, and I think there's value
in a lot of what he does.

489
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,900
I think that you know, that
opening Farm sequence is my

490
00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:41,500
favorite scene in the whole film
is incredible.

491
00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:44,200
That I think that might be my
favorite Tarantino.

492
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,400
Yeah, film a scene.
If you want to talk about

493
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,800
suspense, yeah, that scene does
it for me.

494
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,800
Do you guys have any other
scenes that you would like to

495
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,100
call out?
As, you know, just absolutely

496
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:58,600
Stellar the scene when shoshana
and Christoph Waltz are in the

497
00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:02,800
the eating pastries and yeah.
Which Falls along the same

498
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,700
lines, is him and love petite.
Sure, sure.

499
00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:09,200
I really enjoy that seen a lot.
Yeah, I do think the bar

500
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,600
sequence is not, it's not my
favorite scene, but I think it,

501
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,200
it's like the microcosm scene.
I would point out because

502
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,100
everything that works in that
movie is there and everything

503
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:20,700
that bothers me.
Yeah, it goes on too, long

504
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:23,600
Tarantino's being like way too
self-indulgent, right?

505
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,400
And then the climax of it, you
know?

506
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,400
When the rubber band finally
snaps I feel like it was filmed

507
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,700
in such a way that its
incoherent I can't tell who's

508
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:33,200
shooting.
Do and it just it wasn't a

509
00:25:33,208 --> 00:25:37,900
satisfying scene for me.
Yeah, it's funny that bringing

510
00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:40,400
up those two scenes, next to
each other and my brain.

511
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,400
There's almost a disconnect
which further goes reinforced.

512
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,300
We talked about before it feels
like there's two separate movies

513
00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:47,200
being fun.
Yeah.

514
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,200
And it's not a good thing.
No, it really doesn't completely

515
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,900
agree and it may have been
better for him to make a

516
00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:55,700
separate movie about the
bastards.

517
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:58,400
Yeah, even if you see
characters, kind of weaving in

518
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,600
and out from the other movie,
but Shoshana is tail is the

519
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,000
heart and soul of this movie and
I feel like, including the

520
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,500
bastards distracts from that,
you know, what I would call the

521
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:14,000
movie about Shoshanna, all
revoir shoshana, be great title

522
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,400
for a movie, it would be a great
title for removal, would know

523
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,400
how to say that.
First word, no stalled out.

524
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,800
Yeah, that's true.
How rev War.

525
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:24,600
Shanna grassy.
Grants Bongiorno?

526
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,100
Well, guys, I don't know about
you, but I think that it is time

527
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,400
to drink some whiskey.
Let's get to it.

528
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,600
Alright guys, so here we are
testing out some basil Hayden's

529
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:41,000
basil.
Hayden's is a pretty high-end

530
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,500
bourbon comparatively like
obviously it's not in the

531
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,700
thousands of dollars but you're
going to be paying about $40 for

532
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:49,600
a fifth of this stuff.
It is made by the Jim Beam

533
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,500
company.
It's one of their small run

534
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:55,300
Bourbons along with, Baker's
Booker's and Knob Creek.

535
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,500
So we know what we're getting
here.

536
00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:59,800
Are you guys fans of Jim Beam in
general?

537
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,600
Like regular Jim Beam?
I don't know.

538
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:03,700
I've ever had it.
Yeah, it's just okay.

539
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,500
Yeah.
I've tried their black Jim Bean

540
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:09,200
black because apparently it was
some gold medal or something and

541
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,500
it tasted like it smelled.
And tasted like what I would

542
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:16,100
expect nail polish remover to
taste like and then they also

543
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:19,300
have a double Oak because
they're chasing Woodford, and it

544
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,300
is also very bad.
So I go into this not really

545
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:24,000
having a lot of respect for Jim
Beam.

546
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,800
So yeah.
What was the gold medal for?

547
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:29,500
I wonder tasting.
Like nail polish?

548
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,400
Yes.
Hey, spot on They were really

549
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,800
good at that.
So here drink this nail polish

550
00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:40,500
gold medal.
It has notes of Hickory another.

551
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,600
What do you guys actually
picking up on the nose of this

552
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,700
one?
Question mark.

553
00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:48,400
Yeah, so here's the thing about
basil.

554
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,800
Hayden's is very light in color.
Yes, it's a Kentucky straight,

555
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,300
which means the youngest of it
is 2 years old, at least, but it

556
00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:59,600
is very light.
It's only 80 proof and it does

557
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,400
not give off much of an aroma.
Like I don't even pick up much

558
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,800
of the alcohol off of this, it
smells like nothing.

559
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,400
What's the proof 80?
So I mean you know it's a lower

560
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,700
proof bourbon but it should
still have something coming off

561
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:13,300
of it.
Thanks.

562
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:14,500
Oh yeah.
Proof lower.

563
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:16,600
Leti.
Yeah let's get to The Taste.

564
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:18,400
All right.
Jordan what are you thinking

565
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,100
about the taste though?
I guess my comment would be

566
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,800
similar to the nose.
I don't know what I really

567
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,200
taste.
I don't know if I really taste

568
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,500
anything.
I know what I what the

569
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:31,700
sensations are, but I'm having a
hard time trying to figure it

570
00:28:31,708 --> 00:28:32,600
out.
Yeah, I'll tell you what my

571
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,200
first sip.
It doesn't taste like anything.

572
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,700
It tastes like alcohol and it
has a slight burn and then it's

573
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,500
gone and the Finish.
As I get further down in the

574
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:43,000
glass, I've noticed it gets a
lot sweeter.

575
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,100
I'm picking up a lot of Sugar
and like it's almost like a

576
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,500
pecan pie.
Hmm so like I don't know what

577
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,800
you'd call that smells smells
and tastes like Karo syrup and

578
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,600
and pecans so it's very sweet
after a while.

579
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,800
But it it took me three or four
sips of this to really start to

580
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,800
pick up a lot of flavor on it.
Very mild.

581
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:04,200
Yes.
I think if you wanted to be nice

582
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,000
to it we would say is a very
mild bourbon.

583
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,400
Yeah.
What do you think about the

584
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,400
finish on this one?
It kind of Burns and then

585
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,300
disappears.
Hmm, which might be a good thing

586
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:14,700
seeing as it doesn't taste good
to begin with.

587
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:17,700
Yeah.
The Finnish leaves way more

588
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:20,200
bitter taste in my mouth and the
others that we've tried this

589
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,500
money have.
Yeah, I would actually agree

590
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,200
with that.
It feels like at the top of my

591
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,300
mouth.
I just kind of have this

592
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:31,200
lingering sensation of men.
Wow, that sounds actually a

593
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,800
really first reviewed I feel
Brad.

594
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,300
All right, so let's let's score
this out.

595
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600
Yeah.
All right, I gave it a one on

596
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,600
the nose which is I don't know
if I'll ever give anything is 0.

597
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,800
Like if it If it exists, I think
it needs a one.

598
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,700
Yeah, I give it a one as well.
I started a tattoo but the more

599
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:56,000
that I may say it probably took
five to six minutes of sitting

600
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,400
out for me to even detect notes
of anything.

601
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,800
But so, yeah, I gave it a one on
the taste, where you guys at one

602
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,100
point five, I gave it a two.
Oh my gosh, I don't think I'd

603
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:08,600
give it that low.
I would probably give it a four

604
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,600
or five.
Okay.

605
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:13,200
Like I said, it didn't taste
like much to begin with, but as

606
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,600
I sip It's definitely sweeter.
It's more enjoyable as I go, but

607
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,500
I wouldn't go above a 5 for
sure.

608
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,500
Sure.
Finish sounds like Brad's notes

609
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,000
of men are not really looking
optimistic.

610
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,200
I gave it a 3 just because it's
not II like a smooth finish.

611
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,800
This one still has one even
though it disappears pretty

612
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,100
quickly.
So I'm pretty satisfied with

613
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:41,600
that but I still gave it like a
33 Brad 11, I get this finished

614
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,600
a five I think.
It's very average.

615
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,100
Sure.
And then overall balance I don't

616
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,600
think I can really give this
more than a for sure.

617
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:52,300
I don't know what you guys put
down but Brad gave it a 1.

618
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:55,000
I'm very extreme.
Yeah, it might dislike.

619
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,300
Okay.
I give it a 1, Jordan.

620
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,100
I give it like a 2 or 3.
Okay, nothing spectacular.

621
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:03,300
Let's let's score them out.
So I am going to be at a 15

622
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,200
overall for Basil, Hayden's
Brad.

623
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,700
You are at a 4.5 4 and a half.
Wow.

624
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,100
Okay, that's fun right in the
middle at an 88.

625
00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:15,000
So we're at 27 and a half.
Which puts it about at an

626
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,400
average of nine out of 44.
This, I've you really screwed

627
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,100
the curve here.
I'll tell you what, guys?

628
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:21,700
Yeah, really did.
It would have been even worse.

629
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:25,300
So, you're welcome.
Jim Beam company, guys.

630
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:29,200
This, this goes a long way to
telling you, that just because a

631
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,000
bottle of bourbon cost, $40
doesn't mean that it's good

632
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,100
bourbon.
Oh, you know, and and I'm sure

633
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,800
there are people out there that
really love their basil

634
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,400
Hayden's.
It's a really mild bourbon, but

635
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,400
a lot of it is that you're
paying for the bottle, you're

636
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,000
paying for the marketing, and
the advertising and the name

637
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,900
basil.
Ins.

638
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:47,600
Yeah, I if I had to rank the
ones that we've drank this

639
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,600
month, I would definitely put
the Evan Williams above this and

640
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,200
I would put this on par with or
below the Very Old Barton.

641
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:59,800
I would put this below all for
you put this below Benchmark.

642
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,500
Yeah.
Is it because of the price point

643
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:05,100
has of the price point, if it
was a blind taste though, like

644
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:09,000
what would you if it was a blind
taste with no price attached but

645
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,900
it equal equal The Benchmark.
Yeah, it's a well, it's a Well

646
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:14,200
bourbon.
It does taste like a Yeah, it's

647
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,400
not something that I would ever
pay more than $10.

648
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,600
Wow, Jordan, where you at with
it?

649
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:23,800
I've only had one other, but I
definitely liked it a lot less

650
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,600
than what did we have?
When we do, I think you were

651
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,800
here for the Very Old Barton.
Yeah.

652
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,300
I love the Very Old Barton
compared to this.

653
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:32,800
Yeah.
Especially compared to this both

654
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,700
sound like Scooby-Doo, villains,
but very old Barton.

655
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:38,500
All right guys.
So there you have it Basil.

656
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:42,200
Hayden coming in with a lowest
score we've given yet.

657
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:47,000
Wow, Save Your $40 guys.
As let's get back to talking

658
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,600
about Inglourious Basterds.
What you guys say?

659
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:55,100
Excellent.
All right, so back to the movie

660
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:58,300
here guys, I feel like we are
just being negative Nancy's

661
00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:00,400
today here.
We when there's a lot in this

662
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,100
movie to love, there is a lot in
this movie to love, and there

663
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:06,200
wasn't as much in the bourbon to
love now, but there's a lot in

664
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,500
this movie to love,
particularly, I think some of

665
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:12,800
the dialogue Quentin Tarantino
is always going to be known for

666
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,500
his dialogue, but he was doing
some really interesting things

667
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:17,500
in the very first scene with
Hans Landa.

668
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:20,000
He talked about, they didn't
bring me down off my mountains

669
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,900
in the Alps or in Austria to
come do this and then the very

670
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:26,100
next scene.
Brad Pitt says I came down out

671
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,800
of the Smoky Mountains to do
this and so you've got this.

672
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:31,500
He's already setting them up
like as foils to each other

673
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,900
which I thought was a really
cool way of doing that totally

674
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:36,200
did any other lines of dialogue,
stand out to you.

675
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,200
I don't know if it was maybe
lines of dialogue, but the way

676
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:48,800
Lieutenant land uses, physical
touch is so powerful when he,

677
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,900
when he grabs the girl's hand at
the start with a lot of

678
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:55,100
antiques.
Her sure when she's going to get

679
00:33:55,100 --> 00:34:00,200
wine and he grabs her hand and
such like it's almost a familial

680
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,300
type of thing to grab her hand
and say no honey, you know, hold

681
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:04,800
on.
Uh I'd rather have something

682
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,500
else but the way he does it is
just its menacing.

683
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:11,699
Yeah so menacing I wonder if
that's in the script like that

684
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,400
that's danger direction or if
that's just the Brilliance of

685
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:18,199
Christoph waltz's performance,
there Tarantino does this thing

686
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,500
in this movie though, that, I
don't like with the dialogue

687
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:23,600
that there's a couple times
where I think he's putting his

688
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:27,199
In the mouths of his characters.
So like the first time you see

689
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,000
shoshana putting letters up on
the Marquee, she's like kind of

690
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:34,500
arguing with Daniel Bryan's
character and she says something

691
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:37,199
like, yeah, we respect directors
in our country.

692
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:38,600
Yeah.
Like I felt like that was

693
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,300
Tarantino, maybe giving a middle
finger to like you don't respect

694
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:43,800
me enough.
That's so interesting.

695
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,800
And and then at the very end of
the movie, you've got Brad Pitt

696
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,199
and BJ Novak staring into the
camera as if you know because

697
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:52,600
they've just carved the
swastika.

698
00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:55,100
Yes.
And he says As you know what, I

699
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:58,200
think this just may be my
masterpiece and I'm like, okay,

700
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,900
Tarantino chill out.
Yeah.

701
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:02,100
I see what you're saying.
I did think that about

702
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,700
Tarantino, when that line was
delivered.

703
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:06,400
I was like what's really being
said here?

704
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,000
Yeah, although there are some
great when When Brad Pitt and

705
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,200
Hans Landa, come face-to-face,
finally, and Brad Pitt's just

706
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,800
like cousin everybody out.
And he's like, I thought we had

707
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,100
mutual respect and he's like,
no, we don't and they put him in

708
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:21,500
the back of the truck and Brad
Pitt.

709
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:23,600
Just shouts really loud.
Touch me again.

710
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:26,400
And Kraut Burger.
It's a great line.

711
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,200
Yeah, I want to use it at some
point in my life.

712
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,500
Touch me again.
Crown Burger.

713
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,900
Yeah, I think most of Brad
Pitt's lines are hilarious.

714
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:38,100
I think, the, he's so casual in
the killing of Nazis.

715
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,800
Yeah.
Which contributes to what we

716
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,300
have critique but also, I mean,
it is humorous.

717
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,200
You know, when he's like trying
to get that, not see Captain to

718
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,100
confess and he says, he never
will, and he gets up and he goes

719
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:52,900
well we're just tickled to death
to hear you say that because we

720
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:54,900
is the closest.
Then we get the TV all, you

721
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:57,500
know, it's like, yeah, things
like that or like their

722
00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:59,600
troubling but they're also very
funny, they're just wanting

723
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,300
lines.
Well, they're delivered.

724
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,700
So well, yeah.
Brad Pitt Just Nails, his

725
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:06,700
character perfectly.
So I want to get into some of

726
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:10,600
the critical response to this
movie and, and in our Anchorman

727
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,800
preview episode talked about
this guy Tibor, that works for

728
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,000
the Boston Globe.
I really love his critique of

729
00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:18,500
this movie.
He's not a big fan of this film.

730
00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:20,000
He gave it two and a half out of
four stars.

731
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Wow.
And he talks about Tarantino's.

732
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,100
He calls it.
A fevered junk, pop particle

733
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:31,300
accelerator that is his brain
moments of power and banality,

734
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,600
meaning an absurdity, all
Collide into each other and he

735
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,500
creates movie mashups, that are
as brilliant as they are

736
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:38,900
pointless.
Yeah.

737
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,400
And I kind of have to agree with
him.

738
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,300
He goes on to say that this
movie is like hyperactive and he

739
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:47,100
says, the hyperactivity.
It makes everything bearable,

740
00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:49,400
but it also keeps it from
connecting, right?

741
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400
I think that's part of my issue
with this movie.

742
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,700
It's so episodic.
I don't know if You guys watch

743
00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:56,400
Netflix a lot.
But the Coen Brothers, just

744
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,700
released a movie on Netflix, The
Ballad of Buster Scruggs and I

745
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,800
feel like in a lot of ways, this
is Tarantino's Buster Scruggs

746
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:06,000
like just saying the chapters
they all tell one overarching

747
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,300
story but I don't feel like they
connect to each other in a way

748
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:12,800
that a narrative should write,
they definitely can find

749
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,400
characters to certain chapters
and you're going back and forth

750
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,000
between the bastards and
Shoshanna story.

751
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,600
And I agree that it just doesn't
all land for me.

752
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:22,300
Yeah.
Are you talking about the movie

753
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:25,800
Goodfellas or Where is bastards?
You know, everything that you

754
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,800
said about Goodfellas?
I think you can also apply to

755
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,500
this movie though.
Yeah, I think that's fair

756
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:31,900
because it does at times because
they don't always interact with

757
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:33,900
each other.
Like I don't think should Shawna

758
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:37,200
ever interacts with the bastards
at all.

759
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,800
Now that I can, they almost feel
like they're cameos in each

760
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,400
other's stories, which the valid
Buster scrubs as the same thing.

761
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,400
They kind of allude to each
other stories, but they're never

762
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,900
necessarily altogether.
Yes.

763
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:51,600
And so each chapter with time
differences, or with character

764
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,400
difference, they do feel like
Different stories interweaving.

765
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,600
And when you see them on the
same screen, you kind of are

766
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,800
like, oh look, they're on the
same ski.

767
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Yeah, weird.
And I wonder if it would have

768
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,000
been better to do it like an
anthology or more like a Pulp

769
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,400
Fiction, where, you know that
whole middle section when Bruce,

770
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,000
well, it's kind of related
because you have characters that

771
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,700
come in and out, but would it
have been better to just show

772
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:14,100
the entire bastard story and
then show the entire shoshana

773
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:18,000
story as separate thing even if
the endings are the same, you

774
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,700
get two different perspectives
on that.

775
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,900
I just I don't know if going
back and forth between them

776
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:23,700
really works.
Well, I think the thing, Thing

777
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:25,400
that could have made it work
because I think it's

778
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,600
interesting.
We're always interested in the

779
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,700
whole universe, right?
I mean, and, and in a lot of

780
00:38:30,707 --> 00:38:33,700
ways, because we've seen so many
movies about World War Two, in

781
00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:36,900
general, even just seeing
somebody about, like, you know,

782
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:39,300
Heinrich Himmler, or these
different characters were like,

783
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:41,700
oh, I have background knowledge
on these people.

784
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:45,800
I think it's, it's okay to have
two separate Stories.

785
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,400
The story of shoshana, the story
of the bastards interconnected.

786
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,200
Yeah, almost like you said,
cameos.

787
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,500
Just make the Inglourious
Basterds, part of the story more

788
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,000
interest.
And that's the thing as the

789
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,300
cutting back and forth, doesn't
work because the narratives are

790
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:01,900
not connecting on the same
emotional level, right?

791
00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:04,600
You don't I mean if I didn't you
think about bastard story was as

792
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,600
compelling, it wouldn't matter
like we would be on board for it

793
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:10,600
because they're underdeveloped
and their underutilized.

794
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:13,900
It seems like he's holding up
the real story whenever we go

795
00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:16,500
back to visit with them right?
Because yeah, because you get

796
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:20,800
that entire opening scene with
La Petite and you you

797
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,500
emotionally We are drawn to
Shoshanna.

798
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,900
Mmm.
And the first thing you see the

799
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:30,700
bastards is Brad Pitt talking
about killing Nazis, right?

800
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:33,900
Because they want to and, and
the only emotional connection

801
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:36,500
and I don't know.
Maybe this is saying something

802
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:39,100
about us, the only emotional
connection you have with the

803
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:41,900
bastards is the fact that
they're all Jewish and we all

804
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:43,600
know about the Holocaust.
Yeah sure.

805
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,800
So maybe Tarantino is just
assuming that that's all the

806
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,500
backstory.
We need to be emotionally

807
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:49,500
connect.
Yeah and I do appreciate that.

808
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:51,600
He starts them out in completely
different.

809
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,400
Says and you know that as we go
back and forth like they're

810
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,300
going to come to a head and
they're going to collide with

811
00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:59,100
each other at some point and
even like and I think it's

812
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,100
chapter 4, the the bar scene
that you see Linda come in at

813
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:05,000
the end of that, you're like,
okay, he's on their Trail now,

814
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,500
you know, it's coming but just
for me, there's something about

815
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:11,300
the payoff.
That doesn't quite connect.

816
00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:12,800
Doesn't hit home.
No, I agree.

817
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:16,300
And Tibor actually agreed, he
said on a scene-by-scene basis,

818
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:19,600
Inglourious Basterds.
If is prime if well-worn

819
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,200
Tarantino, the hard-boiled men,
And women, the tents smart

820
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,400
dialogue, seems that go on
forever, the spurts of violence,

821
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,200
that erupted to wipe the board
clean so that the whole cycle

822
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,400
can start again, but he also
said it was Tarantino's weakest

823
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,800
film yet because he's been
playing so close to the fire

824
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:38,200
with his subject matter.
And he says, he feels like he

825
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,300
was afraid to get burned.
Hmm.

826
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:42,800
Which I don't know if I'd agree
with that last part.

827
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:46,200
I don't think I don't think he
was holding back in fact.

828
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,600
I think that he probably could
have used a little bit more

829
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,600
restraint if anything.
Yeah I think he jumps.

830
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,300
And I think he jumps in, and I
don't know if he got burned or

831
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:59,100
if he feels like feels like he
accomplished his goal, but I

832
00:40:59,107 --> 00:41:02,400
definitely think he was in the
middle of the Hall of that.

833
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,300
Maybe it had been more
explicitly about the Holocaust

834
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:08,600
as opposed to the Third Reich.
It might feel like he really

835
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,000
jumped in the phone, but I don't
think he helped.

836
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:12,300
I don't know what he could have
held back.

837
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:14,400
Yeah, that's what I.
Yeah, that would be more and

838
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,400
movies.
Like this to me are the most

839
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,100
interesting movies of all
because you can see the

840
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,600
greatness in them.
Yes.

841
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,300
And it's just so frustrating.
NG to see how they turned out

842
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:26,700
kind of mediocre.
Yeah, and I think there's so

843
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,300
much to love in this movie.
And we were even talking, you

844
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:33,700
know, during our break about we
had kind of pause the movie

845
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:36,700
before chapter 5 and said, oh
this wasn't as bad as I remember

846
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:39,700
to being and then chapter 5
happens and I feel like his

847
00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:42,000
third act, the whole movie falls
apart.

848
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,700
You have to be able to kind of
bring that home and land the

849
00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:46,900
plane and Tarantino doesn't do
it.

850
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:49,900
And I think it's because he
wrote himself into a corner he

851
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:53,200
killed off all the characters we
liked or the we were rooting

852
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,000
for.
And then, you know, shoshana is

853
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,700
kind of coming back from the
dead to exact revenge in Smyrna,

854
00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:00,100
with her sort of like,
otherworldly ghost.

855
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,800
Yeah, laughing.
I think that, if I had to give

856
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,400
this movie A score, I probably
have to give it a six out of

857
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,900
ten.
It is not my favorite Tarantino.

858
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,600
I think it's competently made
and I think that the good

859
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,400
probably outweighs the bad but
that it really falls apart in

860
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,100
the third act for me.
Yeah, I think it's stunning.

861
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,300
I think it has some scenes that
people will be able to study for

862
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:28,700
the rest of their life and see
how good they are this subject

863
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:30,400
matter.
And this maybe just just

864
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,800
displays my personality but the
subject matter and the way it's

865
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,000
handled really affects the way
that I look at it.

866
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:37,000
I would not watch it again by
travelpod.

867
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:37,800
Choice.
Yeah.

868
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,900
And so I'd give it like a 4.5.
Wow.

869
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:48,500
Yeah.
I The scenes with shoshana and

870
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,700
Lieutenant land, huh?
Drag the film up into one of the

871
00:42:52,707 --> 00:42:57,900
best films I've seen a, my, I
really love this movie.

872
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,900
No bread.
I do struggle with all the

873
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:03,300
things that we talked about with
how the bastards don't really

874
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:07,600
matter.
But despite the fact that the

875
00:43:07,607 --> 00:43:10,000
bastards don't really matter, I
still appreciate Brad, Pitt's

876
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,300
performance.
Like we talked about.

877
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:13,500
Here he is.
So perfect for what he has

878
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,700
written to do now.
You can debate whether what he

879
00:43:15,707 --> 00:43:18,000
was written to do was important
at all, or should have been in

880
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,900
the film, but he was great at
it.

881
00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:23,400
So overall, I look at it.
And at the bar scene, I love the

882
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,600
bar scene that truly was one of
my favorite scenes in the movie,

883
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,800
how it just kept going and going
and going.

884
00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:30,900
And you think you're going to
get relief and you think they're

885
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:34,300
going to escape at least four
separate times and then you keep

886
00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:36,700
getting dragged back into oh no
they're all they're going to get

887
00:43:36,700 --> 00:43:39,200
caught they're going to get
caught and then in the end they

888
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,600
do get caught in the rubber band
snaps and and the tension is all

889
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,500
just floods into the room.
Yeah.

890
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,900
And I just, I would probably
give it about an eight, an eight

891
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:50,200
out of eight to eight and a
half.

892
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,700
Maybe.
But I'd stick it in a yak that.

893
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,700
I do think there's a lot to love
in this movie.

894
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,200
Yeah.
I think the Tarantino bit off

895
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,800
more than he can chew.
And, you know, I said I was

896
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,500
going to compare it to Django
what he did with Django and

897
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,100
we'll get to it at some point,
right?

898
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:07,700
He doesn't end slavery in Django
Unchained, right?

899
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:10,100
The part of my problem with this
movie is that he literally

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course corrects history.
He has his alternative history

901
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which you can totally Do.
That's fine.

902
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,300
But to be able to change what
has happened to Jewish people in

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00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:25,000
this world.
I understand the impetus I

904
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,300
understand, you want to have
that Vindication and that

905
00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:30,400
catharsis that comes with
vengeance and eradicating the

906
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,700
Nazis, but it kind of minimizes
what they've been through, in my

907
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:39,800
mind to act like it didn't
happen, I want or to erase it

908
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,500
and rewrite the ending.
It doesn't do a service to the

909
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:45,600
reality I do.
I think he's rewriting the

910
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,100
ending, though.
I mean, I, I'm pretty sure

911
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:51,100
Hitler didn't die in a movie
theater in Paris in 1944.

912
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,900
I don't think he's rewriting the
ending of the Holocaust, though.

913
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,500
I don't think that in the world
of Inglourious Basterds, the

914
00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:59,700
Holocaust didn't happen, well
sure.

915
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:02,300
But I mean, I don't, it ended a
year early, you know, I'm just

916
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:05,400
saying like but with what I'm
saying is it's still happened

917
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,100
and Tarantino do the alternate
ending doesn't change the

918
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:12,300
suffering of the Jews.
It doesn't change the reality of

919
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:16,100
what happened, I think?
If anything, the end of the

920
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:19,100
film, when you look at
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Brad,

921
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:22,900
Pitt's character, his whole goal
is to make sure that nobody

922
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:26,500
forgets.
Yeah, the evil atrocities that

923
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:29,100
was Nazi, Germany, sure, Third
Reich.

924
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:32,400
And so, I don't know if I would
say it all that his goal was to

925
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,400
rewrite history.
I obviously, Hitler didn't die

926
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,600
in a theater in Paris.
I'm not trying to say that that

927
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,700
didn't happen, but or that, that
did happen.

928
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:44,000
But what I'm saying is, I still
think Tarantino is tried he, I

929
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,100
think he is Is trying to
perpetuate the fact.

930
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:50,000
Yeah, the Third Reich was Pure
Evil and the very final scene of

931
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,300
the movie is Aldo, Raine making
sure that no one forgets who

932
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:56,700
Lieutenant land.
A truly is.

933
00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:59,100
Yeah, I see that.
So you feel like he accomplished

934
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:01,100
his goal?
Yeah Tina's cool.

935
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:04,100
I would say so yeah, sure.
So there you have it guys.

936
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,200
We are very split on this movie.
Yeah.

937
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,900
We've got 14 and a half.
We would probably make Tarantino

938
00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:11,900
very happy.
I think that he would be proud.

939
00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:13,700
I agree.
No, actually, he would be much

940
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:16,200
happier.
If like we each pulled out a

941
00:46:16,207 --> 00:46:18,900
pistol right now and had a
Mexican example.

942
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:21,000
Yeah.
So we killed each other asset

943
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,100
for it to happen.
It have to be 25 minutes and I'm

944
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:26,000
sure minimum, yeah.
So, let us know what you think.

945
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:28,300
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946
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:32,300
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