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Welcome into the film and
whiskey podcast.

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I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G Brad.
We are coming at you with

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another special bonus episode,
bonus episode, man.

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I have been super excited for
today's bonus episode Brad

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because a couple weeks ago, I
took a trip up to lovely

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Cleveland, Ohio and Playhouse
Square.

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The second largest Performing,
Arts District in the country

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behind good old Broadway.
And I saw a show called

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Hamilton.
I've never heard of it, Bob,

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right?
I know it's a, it's a little

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little Off-Broadway Productions,
making the rounds right now.

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Nice.
So, a couple years ago when

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Disney plus released their
filmed version of Hamilton, we

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did an episode about Hamilton
and starting.

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Then I have become obsessed with
this show, Brad?

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Like, I don't usually get into
Fanboy territory.

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I don't usually go down the
rabbit hole with the things that

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we watch on this show.
Hamilton is one of those things

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that every decade or so, there
is a piece of art that comes out

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and it's in different mediums,
it could be a movie, it could be

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an album and it is so dense and
there is so much to unpack and

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there are so many references
that you just can't help but

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almost get obsessed with it and
with lin-manuel.

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Miranda's Hamilton, I think
that's kind of, the defining

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piece of art that came out of
the 2010s.

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Yeah, it seems like it just
Richard, a cultural moment of

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America, exploring, its history
and asking questions about where

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we've come from and what that
says about where we're going and

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on top of, you know, all of
those deep important questions.

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It's asking it's just really,
really incredibly well-written.

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Like it might be one of the
sharpest musicals that anyone

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has ever put pen to paper for.
I was gonna say yeah.

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We can talk all day about like,
doing criticism on the text and

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everything, but End of the day.
It's like 50 bangers.

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All strung together for three
hours.

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It's just incredible piece of
entertainment.

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And today, we are joined by
performer Jared.

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Dixon, who is currently on tour
with Hamilton in the Philip cast

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performing as Aaron Burr.
Jared, thank you so much for

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sitting down with us today or
is.

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Thank you.
Thank you for having me now

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Jared.
I will just start off by saying,

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I have.
You know, Bob went and saw you a

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few weeks ago I have Some of my
best friends in the world that

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saw you literally a few nights
ago and the reviews are in you

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are a killer Arenberg pun
intended right?

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Yeah.
Right.

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You know let's just start there
let's talk about the role of

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Aaron Berger a little bit.
I mean you're coming in in a

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performance in a role that you
know Leslie Odom originated and

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has become, I don't know,
probably the most sought-after

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role on Broadway right now like
it He wins a Tony for the thing,

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like it's an incredible role.
It is so nuanced and so layered

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and I feel like the more you
watch Leslie, Odom in that

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performance especially now that
we have like the movie version

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to watch.
It's it's got to be so hard to

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pull off that character because
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internally with Burr than there
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Who's just expressing himself
out loud all the time.

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Yeah what's it like to try to
dig into this role that you know

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you have To express so much,
internal to someone that's

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sitting in the back row of the
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One of my favorite quotes about
the difference between theater

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acting and like, TV acting as
from Denzel.

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And he basically said that
there's no difference.

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You either tell the truth or you
don't hmmm, and it's funny like,

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well, you know, will I've seen,
like, reviews or and stuff like

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that.
I don't try not to bother too

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much with with critics opinions,
and stuff like that, but I'll

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see reviews sometimes I do stay
like, you know, did You know,

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like level of expression wasn't
big enough for you.

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No, it didn't.
It didn't feel like the energy

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was as big as it should be and I
don't think, you know, not to

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criticize critics or anything
like that, but if you watch the

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whole show and you got through
room, where it happens and wait

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for it, and satisfied, and all
of the bangers.

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And you think that the show is
not big enough, you just weren't

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dialed in, you know.
So it, you know, it feeds the

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actors don't Much, you know, not
not that.

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I try to rely on the text or
anything like that, but it's

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there's so much meat on the bone
and one of those like a runaway

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train, if you if you blink you
you've missed, you know, a huge

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chunk sometimes.
And I just try to do my best to,

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to stay on my toes and be as
present as possible with my

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classmates and bring real like
joy and I love to the stage.

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You know because people only
like to watch people who are

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enjoying themselves do anything.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah I wonder though like I'm
thinking about what you said

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about how if you blink in the
middle of Hamilton if you yawn

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for like three or four seconds
you've missed like at least 800

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words worth of content right.
And so like what you know you've

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been performing this for a
little while now.

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What still surprises you in the
text itself?

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Like as you work through the
material night after night, is

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there anything that that like
recently has hit you?

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Where you're like, man, this
line is just hitting me in a

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different way than it had, you
know, the the past few months of

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performing it.
You know, there's so many ways

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that Hamilton can change.
It is so adaptable to the times,

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any one thing happens happens in
our political space, in the

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show, takes on a new color.
Something happens in our

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personal lives in the show,
takes on the new color, I don't

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know.
Like A whole pandemic happens

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and it shows, you know, changes
and it's it's really easy to

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just keep your ears and your
eyes and your heart open to the,

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to the, to the show.
So you know, I'll find new

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things to kind of point at as as
the narrator and new things to

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to emphasize in my text and
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Like the one thing that I found
really interesting is I'm

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probably like Like somewhere
around 400 performances or

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three, 300 and change or
something like that.

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And The the line is I know you
don't.

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Yes, I do.
Now be sensible from what I hear

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you made yourself indispensable
and then two nights ago I just

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leaned into the pain and
indispensable.

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Hmm.
And you've been using your pen.

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Yeah.
You know like a little bitty

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thing I don't know if anybody
caught it but I just like you

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know, one of those I guess like,
kind of dad joke.

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Yeah, it's good for me.
I hope somebody else got it.

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Now, that's incredible, man.
I can't imagine you know, what

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you do it.
So often that you probably have

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to have something on stage to
keep yourself from just getting

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wrote with it but finding
something like that where you're

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just, you know, I'm going to put
emphasis on this word a little

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bit different.
It you have to find something to

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spice it up a little bit, but I
imagine, it has to be a huge

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challenge with something like
Hamilton, where everything

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depends on the meter.
Everything depends on the Rhythm

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and hitting certain beats.
This the exact same way, every

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time, I'm because otherwise the
songs don't work.

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Like it's there's so much
intricacy to how these songs are

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fit together.
That I mean, it's got to be as

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much a verbal and mental workout
as it is a physical one on

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stage.
Oh, yeah, I mean, the only

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there's only a few composers who
write this really, in this

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really dense way you got like,
fine, Hime Roald Dahl lin-manuel

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jrb gets into the pad.
Stuff sometimes e and but in

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this show it really is all of
the devices of theater and and

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live performance kind of coming
together and each moment is like

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like Rich layered.
Take if you bite off too much,

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you know, you're not really
enjoying it.

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So I think I when I'm in the
show, it's more about just like

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I said, keeping my eyes and
heart open.

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Being open to the moment.
I don't really have any Grand

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like design that I'm trying to
effect in every show that I, you

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know, that I go on for.
I'm really just trying to stay

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as present as possible to allow
the job to do what it wants to

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do that night.
And really be, you know, be a

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vessel in a sense.
Injured.

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I'm like fascinated at this idea
of like three, four, five

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hundred performances, you know,
with the same cast and crew for

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the most part, you know, people
kind of come and go.

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But like I think about the fact
that you played Simba on The

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Lion King in the past and your
co-star here, turia Campbell she

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played Nala in Lion King, I
don't believe it was at the same

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time.
But like how, how tight-knit is

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the the Broadway Community?
You know that you guys all work?

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Is same musicals and you are
with each other for, you know,

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month after month and sometimes
year after year, like how

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special is it to be able to
perform in these Arts with these

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people who you're around all the
time?

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I mean, I'll tell you I'll tell
you the most recent experience

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that I've had that's
mind-boggling three of my

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castmates.
I knew since they were like 16.

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Hmm.
Oh my gosh, I was a little bit

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older And one of them who just
debuted last week, I've known

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since he was nine.
Wow, so the not the guy who I

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knew since he was nine.
I was his day, count day camp,

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counselor.
And the other two went, a one

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went to my high school and then
the other one I performed with

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when he was 16 hours 25 and so
for us to all to be onstage at

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the same time, it really is just
as a testament to, you know, how

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small the Community is but also
how tighten it is.

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We're able to see excellence and
other people and continue to

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like encourage and feed people.
And that was probably like the

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biggest, the best gift that I
could have received this year,

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was to be able to see some of
the younger guys who came up

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behind, are coming up behind me,
just we're in the same

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generation but there are few
years behind me.

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For them to have a level of
success of success that they've

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had.
Yeah.

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And when we have like my
classmate and Keisha Williams,

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who I did call the purple with
and a couple of my Dino turia

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did Lion King.
And I have so many connections

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with different cast, mates and
cast members across the Hamill

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verse and across the theater,
the theater world.

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You know, you never quite alone
in theater world.

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Yeah, honestly the way you're
talking about seeing these guys

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come up that you've known since
they they were 916.

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It kind of made me think about
how like in the NBA there's so

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many Young Guns who are like
young stars who are like yeah I

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remember when LeBron like came
to our a you games and like he

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was the greatest player, the
universe and now I'm playing

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against him.
Right?

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And I guess I just bring that up
to say you'd like must be the

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LeBron James of the musical
Universe.

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I mean, I'm not quite ready yet
but Your hairlines not receding

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like his compared to go one.
A all right call him.

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Yeah I'm a Michael Jordan fan
but being compared to him I'll

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take it.
Well you're talking to to

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Cleveland boy.
Wow.

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Actually I'm the Cleveland boy.
Bob is an Akron guy so you might

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get we might get into it.
Yeah like I can practically see

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LeBrons house from here.
I'm like you know you gotta come

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like it's walk on eggshells a
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When you're talking about whose
The goat around us.

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Hey, I'm accepting them all.
All, viable, goat Converse.

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There you go.
Listen.

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As long as you can make a case.
I'll entertain it right.

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All right.
Let's talk a little bit about

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your history Jared because
you're you know you're acting

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like you're the Elder Statesman
here but you're still a young

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buck like you just I mean I've
seen you talk about the role of

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Simba in The Lion King as quite
possibly the most prominent and

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most challenging role.
That's a young person can play.

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How did you get here?
Came from Queens.

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You've liked you, you're the son
of Broadway royalty in a number

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of ways, like it's an incredible
journey and I just I want our

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audience to be able to hear a
little bit about it.

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Yeah, I mean, the long story
short is, I grew up being near

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the theater because my dad was a
performer as well.

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And he's a classical, classical
singer and also made his

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Broadway debut and Ragtime the
musical in the 90s, and I grew

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up knowing knowing that knowing
that I wanted to do something

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different, but not knowing
exactly what it was and I found

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performance later.
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After I graduated college
College, I started auditioning.

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I got my first job in Boston as
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I did Ragtime the completely
full circle moment and I played

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the role of Booker T Washington,
which my dad understudy on

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Broadway as well.
And I really just dedicated the

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past 10 years of my life, since
I, you know, started performing

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professionally to getting better
at every turn and making sure

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that every opportunity I take is
a step up, not just in in

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profile but just in an internal
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fulfillment.
And that's, that's guided me

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really well, I'd really Only
care about being one of the best

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to ever do it.
Or, you know, I'm that's up to

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other people to decide.
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I'm going to attempt and try my
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I got to be as good as I
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Yeah, yeah.
I mean I think that's a great

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point because there's a lot of
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the ambition to play a role like
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probably have the energy and
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Anna.
But there's so much that goes

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into I don't know like having
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experience and also honing your
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Like I can't imagine that, you
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existed 10 years ago and you
look at where you were 10 years

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ago, that you would think that
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remember as you are today.
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question then is like, how do
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actor and how do you see your
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Are those two things intertwine
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these deeper emotions come from,
just the fact that you've seen

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more of the world since then,
you know what I mean?

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It's a part of a necessary
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always had.
I've always had the ability to

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look around and be honest with
myself, not for the sake of

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comparison to other people, but
just to stay.

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When I see somebody do something
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Well, I'll look Within Myself
and say, oh, I can't do that

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when I'm I can get there.
Mhm, I'll look and say, I don't

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have that whatever they just
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Like, you know, I remember the
first time I saw Joshua Henry on

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Broadway, in a poor game best.
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He was the person who I looked
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want to do.
I'm not quite there yet, but I

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need to figure out how to do
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And I didn't, you know, now I'm
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in my own and my own Way in
figuring things out for myself.

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But like I said, it's just a
necessary self-awareness that I

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think I picked up doing other
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Playing basketball running
track.

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You know, I'm naturally
competitive by Nature.

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I really just want to be the
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like, Kobe Bryant obsessive with
may be wrong.

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I don't know.
Jose not many people are in the

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mom, right?
Right.

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You know, 3:00 4:00 in the
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But I can be when necessary when
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when I find a need to go that
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go.
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And and I take that approach
with everything in my life, even

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about being a husband without
being a future dead and being a

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dog owner.
Yeah, so it's, you know, how you

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do anything is kind of how you
do everything with me.

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And I've always just been about
following my passion and and

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making sure that I express my
passion.

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And through, you know, through
my work and I think it shows,

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you know, it started to show
better on stage with experience,

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you know, because I'm more, I
trust myself more than I ever

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had Jared.
That might be the best quote to

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come out of our podcast.
How you do, anything is how you

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do, everything Taya.
Take that home filming whiskey

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Nation.
That's, that's a, that's a good

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one to think on absolutely
Jared.

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I don't mean to make you, you
know, no.

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Speak it into existence here or
name it, and claim it or

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anything.
But you know, everyone has like

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a bucket list of man.
I'd really like to get on stage

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and sing that song Someday, or
I'd really like to be in that

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show some day and I imagine that
some of them you're keeping you

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know, locked up and you're not
going to speak it out loud.

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But like, what are some of the
ones on your, on your bucket

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list?
Yeah, yeah.

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I'll say it in case some
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So number one, Was Burr.
Hmm, let's go.

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That's off the list.
Bobby and Company.

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Nice.
I was just going to say, so

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everyone's Gotta Sing being
alive at some point.

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Right.
Are some point?

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Yeah, it's like, you know, like
a theater party trick.

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For, if you're very tender, I
was gonna say like an Adam

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Driver can do it in marriage
story.

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Like, you can do it, good luck.
Yeah, say Bobby and Company is

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probably up there really
identified with that show.

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It's weird to say, you know, to
say, I identify with That show

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at like 2019 but I really did
hopefully at some point I'll get

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that opportunity for that.
I would also say above that

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would be a role to originate
something I want to originate

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something that's just as deep
and nuanced as Burr whether it

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be a villain or a you know a
tragic hero or something like

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that.
Trying to think of other theater

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Cannon things that I would love
to touch I like, I like Hermes

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and Hades town about nice.
Yeah, type that as well.

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I know, they kind of, they cast
older actors in that role but I

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think it'd be fun to do.
Yeah, there's not many that I'm

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really like, I don't know.
Berber really was like, kind of

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bird, was it?
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And so, I have to, once I'm done
putting on the details, I have

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to re-evaluate and see what's
next.

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I mean, Bobby's fell out there,
of course, what's the song with

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Birth that made you want to
chase it like this.

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Wait for it usually.
Yeah.

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Wait for it is maybe the most
slept on song in the whole show

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like it I know in any other show
we'd say that is the showstopper

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but because this show has room
where it happens and one last

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time and satisfied every like I
feel like wait for it, gets

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buried in people's mind
sometimes and it is, you know,

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we talk all the time Brad when
we talk about movie musicals and

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the way that shows are
structured about a character,

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having a song that's called like
I want song and that's Burrs I

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want song but it's so much
deeper than just an I won

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because he expresses that kind
of thing later on in room where

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it happens to.
But it's his whole motivation,

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it's I'm doing everything
methodically because everything

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around me falls apart and I want
to be able to control my destiny

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and it I feel like it makes Burr
even more of a tragic figure.

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Like there's just there's so
much in that song aside from

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just the vocals that that really
drive that ER forward.

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Yeah, I had a friend who we had
a debate about whether that is

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and I want song or not, and I
did believe that.

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But then I came to the
realization performing it that

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it's an it's more of an identity
song.

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Hmm, everyone else in the show
gets introduced Burr, introduces

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himself.
Yeah.

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And the first thing he says, is
on the damn fool that shot him,

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but we don't get to really know
who he is, as a, as a stone.

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Soul as a human being with a
soul until wait for it.

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And I think the things that he's
staying about himself in that

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song are things that we all
questioned our wide.

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Why do I do anything out here
like why do I go to this job?

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Why do I am I love with this
person.

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Why did I get this dog?
You know and What he's really

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questioning is the very nature
and fabric of what, he's been

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taught in what he's, come from
and whether that's enough to

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sustain him and at that point in
his life, he decides that it

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isn't that it's enough, the way
that he's doing things is

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enough, but you just see the
chink in the armor because it's

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through the lens of comparison.
Mmm, that's what makes it so

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tragic, because he says all
these beautiful things about

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this Legacy that he's, he's Come
from the the second verse.

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My grandfather was a fire and
brimstone preacher.

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My mother was a genius.
My father commanded respect, but

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he's talking about the Legacy
that he comes from, and his deep

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love that he has for Theodosia,
and it seems so beautiful to

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audience.
It's like the color yellow and

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Van.
Gogh, you know, if you watch, if

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you read, if you see any Van
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that's a beautiful yellow flower
and you find out that yellow Is

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the color that he used to
signify the darkness in his

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soul.
Wow.

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And then the depth of his pain
and it changes the way you see

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anything?
And so that's kind of what wait

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for it is.
It's that beautiful painting.

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But then you find out the secret
meaning behind it.

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At the end, you realize this
guy's got some things to work on

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my behalf, you know, as we all
do.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And I think that's what I love
most about Hamilton is that it

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takes These characters from
history that if we're being

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really honest, I would guess
without the musical Hamilton

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seventy to eighty percent of
Americans, wouldn't even know

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who these people were beyond.
The fact that they were American

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history figures, right?
And yet it takes them and it

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reminds us that, you know, we
get so caught up in our own

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lives and our own day-to-day
things.

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And assuming that all, you know,
politicians have are evil or

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they're perfectly good.
You know, we do all this and yet

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something like Hamilton takes
all of that.

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And says, hey all throughout
history, people are just people.

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They want to be known and loved
and understood and safe and they

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want to be able to provide those
things for the people that they

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love.
And whether you're a politician

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in the, you know, Seventeen
eighteen hundreds.

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Or you're just an average
citizen trying to live through a

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pandemic, like those are things
that we can all relate. 82 and I

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think that's what Hamilton does.
Well it's a it's a cautionary

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Tale.
It's an old to the beautiful

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Florida, beautifully flawed
experiment that is America and

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it's kind of a testament to
humanity.

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It's a plea for Humanity in some
ways because the truth is at the

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end of this show, you know, Burr
is able to say, if I had just

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Weighted hem.
If I had listened to myself,

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I've had trusted myself enough.
I might have seen that there was

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space enough for both of us and
that is that's the most

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beautiful walk-off home run, you
know, but I don't think I've

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ever seen in a museum was for
him to drop his ego.

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At the end.
Right?

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00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:23,500
And just say, you know, Yeah,
I'm trash and we all are, but

446
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:26,400
that's that's like the most
beautiful thing for me about the

447
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,000
way that show ends is you
finally understand the link

448
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,400
between Burr and Hamilton, is
that in their own ways.

449
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,800
They both tried to be the
masters of their fate.

450
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,100
They both tried to write their
own Legend and I don't think

451
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,200
either of them realized until it
was too late.

452
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,100
And that's when, you know,
Washington comes back on at the

453
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:49,300
end and starts starts, you have
no control who lives, who dies,

454
00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:51,800
who tells your story?
Like the final reminder of this

455
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,200
musical is like, you can try as
much as you want to be the

456
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600
master of your fate.
But the way your story gets told

457
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,800
is not up to you and it shifts
in those final moments to

458
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,300
talking about Eliza this person
who we don't know anything about

459
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:07,900
really and who had no chance to
tell her own story and like

460
00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:10,500
that's what Lynn's doing at the
end of the story is he's like,

461
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,400
I'm going to, I'm going to tell
the legend of this person now

462
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,500
and I think it says a lot about
like what you guys are saying,

463
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:22,300
it's really instructive to How
much are you going to waste your

464
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:24,300
energy?
Trying to construct your own

465
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:26,600
Legend and narrative?
And how much are you going to

466
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,600
accept the fact that like you
have no control over that at

467
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,000
all?
Yeah, I mean if you're if you're

468
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:38,300
reading a lot of Eckhart Tolle
right now and birds I think he

469
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:44,400
would categorize Burr as someone
who's egotistical e steeped in

470
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,200
his past and future.
Hmm never quite in the present

471
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,400
because he's always waiting
Hamilton's never quite in the

472
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,000
present because he's always
planning, you know, and that

473
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,500
ends up being the foil of both
of them Bert in the story, at

474
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:05,700
least that, you know, I can't,
I've read enough, but I I've

475
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:08,700
read enough to know that I know
nothing about burned.

476
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:13,100
You know about anyone will not
accept vision is histories that

477
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:14,900
thing.
And, you know, I wasn't there.

478
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:16,800
So I'll never know the truth,
right?

479
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:24,500
I know that in the story.
He's so um, seemingly concerned

480
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,800
with upholding this Legacy and
being right?

481
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,900
And being a part of the thing
that he doesn't necessarily you

482
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:40,200
know the most beautiful parts of
his show are non-stop to me when

483
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:45,900
he's you know he's at home &
Hamilton's like hey come kick

484
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:46,600
up.
Dirt with me.

485
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,500
He's like no I think I'm good.
I think that's a good.

486
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:52,600
If the show ends their bird
probably goes off and lives a

487
00:28:52,608 --> 00:28:54,500
great happy life somewhere.
Right?

488
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:01,400
You know by the end of the song,
He's like questioning again, for

489
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:07,100
whatever reason.
Yeah so it's I guess like we

490
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:11,000
said so much meat on the bone.
Yeah well and we could honestly

491
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,400
go on talking about it for
another three hours but I think

492
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,900
what we need to do now is Bob
and I are going to go.

493
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:21,400
We're going to review the
Beverly High rye whiskey.

494
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,700
And then we're going to come
back and talk with Jared about

495
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:28,900
our top five movie musicals, so
get ready for that Whiskey

496
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:30,800
Review.
And then we'll be back with our

497
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:38,600
top five movie musicals.
All right, so today we are

498
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,900
checking out the Beverly
high-rise II American whiskey

499
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:44,400
Brad.
This is called an American

500
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,400
whiskey not just a ride because
it's not technically a bourbon.

501
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,100
It's not technically a rye.
It is a blend of straight rye

502
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:55,400
and straight bourbon.
So you know, it probably works

503
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,500
out that there is still more
corn in the overall Mash bill

504
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,700
here than there is anything
else, but it can't be called a

505
00:30:00,708 --> 00:30:02,900
bourbon legally because it's
Blended.

506
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000
So you know what, I'm okay with
it since it's a Melting Pot, Bob

507
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,100
Just like America.
That's right.

508
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,800
Yeah, man.
This one is coming out of Cedar

509
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,000
Ridge.
Winery & distillery in Cedar,

510
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,800
Rapids, Iowa.
Fun fact where my family is

511
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,200
from.
Yeah, yeah.

512
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,500
Yeah, man.
We've had a couple of their

513
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:24,700
products on the show before I
love Cedar Ridge so I'm very

514
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:27,400
excited about it.
Yeah, this is a blend of

515
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,100
Whiskey's that come from Cedar
Ridge and from Indiana.

516
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,400
So if you can guess where the
whiskey and Indiana is coming

517
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,100
from, you'd probably be right.
I'm super excited about this,

518
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:37,900
man.
I've seen this It'll all over

519
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:41,200
Instagram.
It is a very picturesque bottle,

520
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,700
like it's a really nice one to
have on your bar, really draws

521
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:46,800
attention to itself.
I'm hoping that the whiskey

522
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,900
inside the bottle is every bit
as good as the packaging on the

523
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,400
outside.
Brad, you actually did a little

524
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,300
bit more research on this than I
have.

525
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:55,800
So, why don't you walk us
through?

526
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,300
What you've found out about this
whiskey?

527
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:04,700
Yeah, so this this whiskey is
coming in at 96 proof and they

528
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:06,400
have already won a few Metals
Bob.

529
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,800
They've won a gold medal.
At the San Francisco World

530
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,100
Spirits competition as well as
the New York.

531
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:15,600
We World Spirits competition, so
the Beverly knows how to blend

532
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,100
some whiskey Coast-to-Coast,
awards for the Beverly.

533
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,200
That's right.
All right.

534
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,800
Let's jump in, man.
But, do you picking up on the

535
00:31:22,808 --> 00:31:24,500
nose here?
Oh man.

536
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,700
You know what?
I just realized it reminds me.

537
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:32,900
A little bit of the outlands
scotch that you got us a while

538
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:36,300
back, really.
It literally just hit me.

539
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:39,500
I like, I've already taken.
Taking my notes but yeah, it has

540
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:45,300
like this, this sweet cherry
licorice knows that's mixed with

541
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:48,800
like a cream of wheat, some
caramel, some black pepper.

542
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,500
It's a really really nice knows
Bob.

543
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:54,600
Yeah, I think pepper is a really
great note to bring out on this

544
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,300
one.
It does smell like a bourbon.

545
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:58,800
It smells like a high ride
bourbon, which I expected when

546
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,300
it's called the Beverly, High
Rye.

547
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:02,700
So there's a lot of that Rice
spice on the front.

548
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:04,100
There's a lot of that
pepperiness.

549
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:07,600
I get a little bit of like a
Coca-Cola kind of Essence on

550
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,000
this one.
I like it a lot, not super

551
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,900
complex on the nose but it tells
me that it's going to be sweet

552
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:17,600
but with a little bit of a kick
from that pepperiness when I get

553
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,100
into the taste here Brad, I'm a
little bit surprised that it's

554
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:22,700
not quite as sweet on the
palate.

555
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:26,800
As I was expecting it to be and
it almost has a little maltiness

556
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,000
to it and I don't know if
there's any malt in any of the

557
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,700
mash bills that they're blending
here but when you said it

558
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:35,900
reminded you of a scotch, that's
where my mind went.

559
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:39,100
Is that on the Latt.
It's a little multi-year than it

560
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:39,800
is.
Sweet.

561
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:42,500
Yeah, it definitely came across
his creamy.

562
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:45,900
For me, there is still some of
that cherry lingering from the

563
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:48,200
nose.
Then it got kind of minty at the

564
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,400
back end and I thought it was a
really really nice palette, mmm.

565
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,800
And when you get into the finish
here, it gets into a really

566
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,800
beautiful toasted Oak.
There's some marshmallow flavor

567
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,700
going on and for me, it almost
left a little bit of like an

568
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:09,900
angostura bitters flavor that
Almost got sour, like, my first

569
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:12,000
sip.
It almost got sour at the back

570
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,800
end, but the more I sat with it
and drank it, the more, it kind

571
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,400
of evened out into just that,
that angostura feel there's

572
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,100
quite a bit of smokiness on
this, and I wouldn't call it

573
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,500
like Pete, but it reminds me of
non peated scotches and how they

574
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:30,200
still have that kind of like, a
wisp of campfire.

575
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,400
Smoke about them.
This has that, it's like minty

576
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,100
and Smoky.
At the same time, it definitely

577
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,200
turns.
A little bitter not sour but a

578
00:33:39,208 --> 00:33:42,200
little bit on the more Bitter
End of things on the finish.

579
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:44,600
I liked your note of angostura
bitters for me.

580
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,600
It doesn't quite have that level
of complexity to it, but

581
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:52,000
everything seems to be
consistent like that black

582
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,100
pepper E&R.
I note that I got on the nose,

583
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,800
really did a good job of
preparing me for where this was

584
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,100
going to go because otherwise I
would have thought this was

585
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,200
going to be way sweeter than it
is on the palate.

586
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,600
Yeah.
Bob this I mean the balance I

587
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,800
think that this is like Above
average complexity that has

588
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,600
really nice flavors throughout.
This is a really good whiskey,

589
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,400
man.
Alright, let's talk a little bit

590
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,000
about the price point on this
because you told me that you're

591
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000
seeing at retailing for about
what $59.

592
00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:24,199
Yeah, 60 bucks.
All right.

593
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,800
So again I don't want to call it
a craft whiskey, but it is

594
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,199
coming from a smaller craft,
Distillery, at least some of

595
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,100
what they're sourcing is in
Cedar Ridge.

596
00:34:32,699 --> 00:34:35,600
And I like Cedar Ridge is stuff.
They're putting it in a really

597
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,900
nice bottle.
The packaging is Is like

598
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:42,300
Stellar, you know?
Just for $60 man.

599
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:45,500
It's like I would probably
recommend some other whiskies

600
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:50,000
that I like better than this but
I also want to say that I don't

601
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000
think this is overpriced like I
think it's a it's a fair value

602
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,500
for what you're getting.
Could it be a little bit cheaper

603
00:34:56,500 --> 00:35:00,300
and get a little bit of a higher
score on my my metric

604
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:03,100
definitely.
But I also don't think that this

605
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:04,900
is like astronomically
overpriced.

606
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,400
No I think if I was Giving it a
value score.

607
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,000
I'd probably give it like a
seven.

608
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:16,800
I think it should be, man.
If this was like, $42.

609
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,800
I think it'd be like a 9 out of
10 value.

610
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,500
Yeah.
But then you're asking them to

611
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:25,700
get their price know, 100%?
I think maybe 50 to 55 dollars,

612
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:28,800
might be a better price point,
but you know, 60 bucks it's

613
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,800
fine.
If I was scoring this out of 50

614
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,900
and, you know, including the
value score, I think I'd

615
00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:36,900
probably sit at like a 38 out of
50.

616
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:41,800
Like, I really nice experience
that I would probably recommend

617
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,600
buying a bottle.
Yeah, honestly, that the the

618
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,500
know what you're getting into.
Yeah, the packaging on this.

619
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:50,100
Definitely takes it up a notch
for me and usually, we're not

620
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:53,700
swayed by packaging but when I'm
on the fence about whether or

621
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:56,500
not to recommend the whiskey
itself, if you can have

622
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:58,700
something that's going to be a
conversation piece and going to

623
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:00,800
be eye-catching and it's only
going to cost you a couple more

624
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,000
dollars.
I'm all in on that and they

625
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,800
clearly put thought and effort
into the packaging here it's a

626
00:36:05,808 --> 00:36:08,400
custom-made bottle.
The labels really beautiful.

627
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,800
I love the color scheme on it.
So like absolutely, I'm going to

628
00:36:11,808 --> 00:36:13,600
go ahead and give this one a
stamp of approval.

629
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,600
Brad.
I don't know about you.

630
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:18,900
Yeah. 100% if you find some
Beverly high-rise out there in

631
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,000
the wild I would snag it
immediately.

632
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,700
All right man, let's get back
into talking with Jared, Dixon

633
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:26,000
from Hamilton.
What do you say?

634
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:32,200
Let's get to it.
Alright, so that was the

635
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,700
Beverly, High, Rye American
whiskey.

636
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:36,500
We want to say thank you again
for this bottle.

637
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:39,300
We are getting back into our
conversation with Jared Dixon,

638
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,100
who's currently on tour with
Hamilton as Aaron Burr and we're

639
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:47,200
talking about our top five movie
musicals now, Brad.

640
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,200
I don't know how you made your
list up, but I tried to stick

641
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,800
with mine to like, Broadway to
movie adaptations because

642
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,800
there's so many musicals, we
could just do.

643
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,100
Yeah, you know, like Singing in
the Rain existed as a movie

644
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:02,900
musical?
Well, before it was ever a show

645
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:05,700
on Broadway.
So, like, for the most part, I

646
00:37:05,707 --> 00:37:09,000
did sneak one in here.
That's just a movie, but I tried

647
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,100
to go the Broadway route.
I don't know, guys.

648
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,300
Did you have trouble picking
just five, or is it like a

649
00:37:15,308 --> 00:37:18,800
pretty clear-cut list for you?
I mean, I don't even know if

650
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,300
Jarrod would be able to pick
five.

651
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:22,200
No.
Because it doesn't seem like a

652
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,600
guy that's really steeped in
history of musical.

653
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,800
Now, Bob honestly, I am not like
the biggest musical guy in the

654
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,200
world as far as like history and
knowing them all, but I have

655
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:41,000
some that I've really enjoyed.
I think two of mine actually.

656
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,800
No, I'm pretty sure that to of
mine are Broadway to movie and

657
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,300
three are not.
Okay.

658
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,700
So, Mine are all over the place.
I got some Disney in.

659
00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:54,200
There you go.
As something Broadway to movie

660
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:58,700
and I don't think I do.
I have any movie too bright?

661
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:00,400
I don't think I have any movie
to Broadway in there.

662
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,900
Yeah.
See, I will say, I literally

663
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:09,800
didn't even think about like the
90s Disney movies as musicals,

664
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,900
and yet, like, Bob.
And I were talking and he

665
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:14,200
mentioned those.
And I was like, oh, I didn't

666
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,000
even think of putting those in
like Beauty.

667
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,900
And the Beast would be, it might
make my top 5 because I just

668
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:24,700
freaking love that movie, right?
We've had this conversation so

669
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:26,600
many times.
Brad about like, what makes Some

670
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,600
musical a musical is it?
Yeah.

671
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Does the music have to be
diegetic?

672
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,100
Does a movie?
What was the one that we watched

673
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,800
Walk?
The Line, you know, where they

674
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,300
stop the movie 43 minutes or the
Johnny Cash can sing a song

675
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:38,800
like?
Yep.

676
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,500
Does that make it a musical?
Just because there's a

677
00:38:40,508 --> 00:38:44,100
performance in it, you know.
And so I think yeah the lines

678
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:46,100
get blurred and it's up to
interpretation.

679
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:48,500
But that's what makes these top
five list so good.

680
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:51,500
So, I don't know, without
further Ado, let's just we'll go

681
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:55,900
one by one and we'll go from
five to one so Brad, and then

682
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,000
Jared, What are your number five
picks?

683
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,200
My number five pick is my yearly
Christmas tradition.

684
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:07,500
I watch this and I watch It's a
Wonderful Life for sure like no

685
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:09,400
other movies, come and go some
years.

686
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,600
I watch Elf the Santa Claus but
every single year I will watch,

687
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,400
It's a Wonderful Life and White
Christmas.

688
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:20,800
Mmm, I just absolutely love
white Christmas.

689
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,200
I love all the performances.
I think it's got that.

690
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,600
Like when you actually sit down
and watch Shit.

691
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:32,000
It's got so many weird, just
little scenes in the middle of

692
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,500
it, that only makes sense to
people who lived in the 40s and

693
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,700
50s and I still don't
understand.

694
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:41,300
And I just love that, it makes
it feel nostalgic to me.

695
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:46,900
So I'm a big fan of White.
Christmas number 5, I'm going to

696
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:50,400
stay Coco.
Oh yes, I knew.

697
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,100
I knew I liked this guy for a
reason.

698
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:55,100
Yeah, I was about to say Jared
you just want a best friend for

699
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:59,600
life and Bob.
Ha ha Coco go so hard, and no

700
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,000
one gets it, like, local ghost,
oh, fuck.

701
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,900
It's I turn that movie on and
like, I'm entertained.

702
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:09,200
I'm weeping.
All of the emotional roller

703
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,800
coaster that you could possibly
have comes from cocoa.

704
00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:13,100
Like Jared.
You thought you were going to

705
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,300
get to talk about coconut.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

706
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,200
No, no, you're right.
I'm sorry Jared.

707
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,900
Yeah, why why do you choose
Coco?

708
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,600
Oh, I actually had this
conversation with a producer of

709
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,700
Lion King.
If we were talking about the

710
00:40:27,707 --> 00:40:31,600
future of Disney on Broadway, I
was telling him I was like I

711
00:40:31,607 --> 00:40:34,700
don't even know if you guys know
what device has really made Lion

712
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:40,000
King the phenomenon that it is.
I believe that all of the

713
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,800
musicals that are attached to a
culture that we know but don't

714
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,700
have full access and
understanding of are the ones

715
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:53,200
that are fully expect that
become the most popular.

716
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,100
So like Lion King.
Is attached to Africa.

717
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,600
The Lion King, musical is
attached, deep in a deeper way

718
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,700
to Africa, but the movie is
attached to Africa.

719
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:10,700
And, and the, you know, that
culture, I think that's what

720
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:13,400
made it to Broadway success.
That it is and cocoa, has that

721
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,600
same element with the thing
Mexican culture and all of the

722
00:41:18,607 --> 00:41:22,400
history, round, Dia, de los
Muertos and, you know, the food

723
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,500
in the then being shoemakers and
The Mariachis and all that stuff

724
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,000
and then on top of that, it's
just written, like it's written.

725
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,900
So, so, so so, so what?
Yeah, The Melodies are

726
00:41:35,900 --> 00:41:39,300
brilliant.
I love how it like, just How It

727
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:42,900
Ends when she did the, The
Motif, remember, me?

728
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,500
It's like, it's mostly the
remember me, singing, the one

729
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,300
line and remember me is like,
saying, Bing, Bong to anyone who

730
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:54,600
sees the inside out.
Yeah, this guy gets it, Brad.

731
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:57,400
Yeah.
Yeah, 100% gets it.

732
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,800
We listen to a Disney piano
playlist to put my daughter to

733
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,300
bed and remember me comes on
right after a.

734
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:10,600
What's the song from Toy Story?
2 jazz is Sarah Mclaughlin one.

735
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Yeah, yes.
It literally is the Sarah

736
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,200
McLachlan song and then remember
me and I'm like, trying to read

737
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,200
a book to my child and like,
trying not to weep.

738
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,800
Well, I'll wreck the moment here
because my number five is not

739
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,500
something that makes Me weep at
least but Brad, it's probably

740
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:30,900
like one of the only Tim Burton
movies that I've ever actually

741
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:33,200
enjoyed it.
Like he just doesn't do it for

742
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,500
me as a director, but I love his
adaptation of Sweeney Todd.

743
00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:41,500
Like, dude, it is it's really
good and that I mean again like

744
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:44,100
it's a, you know, when you talk
about Sondheim, like you could

745
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:48,800
pick a number of different shows
but Sweeney Todd, like the the

746
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,100
show is amazing.
And then the movie itself is

747
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:55,200
also really, really good and
it's really rare to find move.

748
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:59,600
These that successfully that
succeed as movies, in addition

749
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,700
to just like, hey, here's a
Broadway show.

750
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,500
Like they did something unique
with it.

751
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:06,300
I thought it held up
artistically.

752
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:12,300
I really enjoyed Sweeney Todd.
I will, I will actually agree

753
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,200
with any type of definitely on
my list.

754
00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:17,700
Oh, there you go.
Part of all right.

755
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:18,700
Brad.
Why don't you hit us with your

756
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:21,400
number four?
Yeah, my number 4.

757
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,800
We're going back a little bit in
time.

758
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,900
I'm going to put up my fair.
R lady.

759
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:29,100
Oh nice.
Now I will say this is one.

760
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:31,800
I have not watched an in quite
some time.

761
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,700
I think the last time I watched
it was probably high school but

762
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:40,400
I remember just being so drawn
in by the chemistry between

763
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,000
Audrey Hepburn, and I can't
think of the name of the main.

764
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,400
The main male character
Harrison, I mean, yeah.

765
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,100
Movie.
It's Professor hickey.

766
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,200
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Professor Higgins.

767
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Yeah, Rex Harrison and Audrey.
Hepburn are just incredible

768
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,800
together.
In that movie.

769
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,900
There was a there was a
production that I want to say it

770
00:43:57,900 --> 00:44:03,500
was like Lincoln Square a couple
years ago and some yeah the guy

771
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:06,000
that sang on the street where
you live.

772
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,600
I wish I remembered his name.
He was incredible.

773
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,000
Like there's just so many great
numbers in that show.

774
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:16,700
You know what Jared I'm gonna
let you give your number 4 and

775
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:18,600
I'm going to Google real quick
who it was that saying that's

776
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,700
awesome.
My number four is very, very

777
00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:25,600
recent, I'm gonna go with the
new Matilda.

778
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,900
Oh, I haven't seen it yet.
It is astounding really.

779
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,900
Yes, it is.
A one of the best things that

780
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:38,300
I've seen I was not say this
year but this business is too

781
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:44,300
short year as one of the best
musicals I've seen in a while.

782
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:49,000
I'm definitely say that.
Wow, Matt Bob stumped by a

783
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,600
guess.
Yeah.

784
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:51,800
Yeah, this is a rare occurrence,
man.

785
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,300
Yeah, I have Jared I am so
thankful that you have come on

786
00:44:56,300 --> 00:45:01,100
this show, so tell us just
really quickly one sentence.

787
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:05,100
Like what made you love Matilda
so much to put it in your top

788
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:08,400
five.
I mean, just the, the way that

789
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,800
the music flows with the, with
raw doll story and the words

790
00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:20,400
it's really, really smart.
It's just, it's really The dents

791
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:26,700
and Brilliant and for I mean in
those kids are just giving every

792
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:29,700
ounce of Excellence that they
can possibly muster in that

793
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:32,600
thing.
It also it just it feels really

794
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:39,700
good and it's not like It's not
very it's not very cookie cutter

795
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:42,900
and kitschy it.
Yeah, it it allows itself to be

796
00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:47,600
as dark as I think Matilda
should be, they made a flip on

797
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,700
the character and she's not so
sweet and innocent with the

798
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:55,000
sneaky attitude.
She's like, she's a big shit

799
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,900
like stepper.
Like she's definitely worth our

800
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:03,100
weight in gold and that shot and
then show.

801
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:05,700
So I really appreciate it.
Maybe it's on my list right now.

802
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,600
Because it's, you know, recency
bias?

803
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,000
Sure but her it really think it
stands up against any of the

804
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,300
like kid musicals that are that
are out there.

805
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:19,300
I would say so far we have two
musicals prominently featuring

806
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:22,100
kids for you Jared.
Yeah yeah I think that's

807
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:24,300
something that maybe that has
something to do with the fact

808
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:26,200
that I got one coming on the way
you do.

809
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,900
Your adulation is not the way
Brad relations, man.

810
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:29,900
Thank you.
Thank you.

811
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,800
All right, I'll go with my
number 40.

812
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,200
I found the guy from My Fair
Lady.

813
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,500
His name is Jordan Danica.
He He killed.

814
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,900
Yeah kill the song.
Like look at all the waiter

815
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:42,000
about the Broadway.
Okay um yeah.

816
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,800
I don't know why he was able to
another show.

817
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:48,800
Okay, one of my guys, oh yeah,
well, tell him, I said that he

818
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,700
absolutely annihilated that
song.

819
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:53,500
Like it was this incredible.
All right.

820
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:57,000
My number four.
I'm gonna go with a movie, that

821
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,200
really has fallen, like, by the
wayside, but it's from a show

822
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,700
that still performed a lot.
And that is the, the movie

823
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:05,200
adaptation of Brigadoon.
This is a Rodgers and

824
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,400
Hammerstein.
Musical.

825
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:09,500
I don't know why Brigadoon has
always had just a really special

826
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:14,500
place in my heart, like it is,
it's cheesy as hell and I love

827
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:15,400
it.
Like it's just, there's

828
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,100
something about a musical that
is completely Earnest with its

829
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:24,900
own cheesiness that like, it's
endearing and, and like, it Gene

830
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:28,600
Kelly in the movie and Leslie,
Caron and like are not Leslie.

831
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,200
Caron said, Cherise in that
movie directed by Vincente

832
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,300
Minnelli, so it looks gorgeous.
I love that movie.

833
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:38,600
Gene Kelly and I'm in love with
those songs.

834
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,500
So Brigadoon is number four.
If I am correct, Brigadoon is a

835
00:47:42,508 --> 00:47:48,500
Scottish themed movies and your
name is Robert the Bruce book.

836
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,500
That's that that's true
actually, yeah.

837
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,500
Okay.
I'm just, I don't know if I'm

838
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:54,900
making a correlation here, so
I'm just asking questions up

839
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:57,600
with it in my bones that
resonates with that musical.

840
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:02,200
All right, Brad.
Let's go through these a little

841
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,600
quicker here, man.
We're Dragon.

842
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,600
We got to get this guy to bed so
he can perform tomorrow.

843
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,500
Row number three for you.
Brad number three, I'm going

844
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:12,500
more recent as well.
I'm gonna go with lala land.

845
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:16,500
Oh interesting.
Okay, I just, I love the story

846
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:20,100
that is told by it.
I think that as a musical it is

847
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:23,600
not necessarily the greatest
pure musical of all time.

848
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:29,700
But I just love what, what she's
L did with the story and I think

849
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:32,500
that the cinematography of the
film was beautiful the way he

850
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:35,000
uses lighting throughout is
incredible.

851
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,300
So, I'm I was just really a big
fan of LOL and when it came out,

852
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:46,200
all right, Jared number three.
I'm gonna go with Cinderella.

853
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,800
Oh nice.
Brandy version.

854
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:49,800
Okay.
All right.

855
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,200
Yeah.
Just buddy you got to specify

856
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,800
the bread with Whitney as the
the Godmother, right?

857
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,400
Yeah.
That that movie was just so

858
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,800
Monumental in so many of my
friends is lives.

859
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,400
It's kind of like to me, it's
the Jake Johnson of Movie music,

860
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:12,300
let's go.
But you got to give you got to

861
00:49:12,308 --> 00:49:15,000
give credit where credit is due.
Its the firt, you know, is one

862
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,400
of the first I think it's the
only time that I've ever seen a

863
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:27,300
black and white Mom and Dad
produce an Asian son break,

864
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:29,700
breaking the laws of physics and
we love them for it.

865
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:32,500
Like and again that's it that's
a Rodgers and Hammerstein

866
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:35,600
adaptation actually I did that
show in high school Brad.

867
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,300
And like, it's the kind of show
that if I can be frank, like it

868
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:42,300
needed something to spice it up
a little bit and like, make it

869
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:46,100
fresh and adding, those Dynamics
to it, bringing in Whitney as

870
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:49,300
the Fairy Godmother.
Like it, it's so, so good.

871
00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:50,500
I haven't seen that version of
forever.

872
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:51,700
I got to check that one out
again.

873
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:54,500
Yeah.
All right, my number three.

874
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:55,600
I'm gonna go with Les
Miserables.

875
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,100
This is a movie that a lot of
people are iffy on as a movie,

876
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:03,300
especially, like, with some of
the vocalist, in the movie.

877
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,000
I don't know, man.
It worked for me, and I'll Les

878
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,500
Mis is another one of those
shows that if it resonates with

879
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:12,600
you, then it resonates at a
really, really deep level and,

880
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:15,500
you know, the character of algae
on the themes of redemption and

881
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:18,600
salvation in that movie, or
just, they hit me every single

882
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,900
time.
I can't watch that movie and not

883
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:24,300
be moved by that final scene of
the barricade after Valjean

884
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:28,100
passes on into the Afterlife.
It's, it's an incredible visual.

885
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:33,500
Lame is my number three, Yeah,
all right, whatever.

886
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:40,200
Dude Jared, why are you being so
rude to pacis?

887
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,200
All right, Brad number two.
Number two has already been

888
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,900
mentioned, dude.
I freaking love Sweeney Todd.

889
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,500
No.
Wow, you hang onto that.

890
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:55,600
I I remember like watching it in
high school.

891
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,500
Our choir saying we didn't do
the musical, but our choir

892
00:50:59,500 --> 00:51:06,600
saying, You know, the lot of the
song sure it is just one of the

893
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,800
most fun like Darkly fun
musicals ever created.

894
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:15,100
And I just think that Johnny
Depp and Helena Bonham Carter

895
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:21,700
and Alan Rickman like it's just
such an incredible cast and they

896
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:24,400
have so much chemistry in this
film.

897
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,200
That just brings this world.
This you know, ugly gross

898
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,800
British world to life.
Like dark and dirty and I just

899
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,900
man, it's so good dude, I'm
right there with you.

900
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,100
Sweeney Todd's.
Number two for me.

901
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:42,800
Come on, how come on, dear me?
You just talking about some of

902
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:48,200
the the most grimy dark dirty
text that we've ever gotten from

903
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,800
the man himself.
Hmm.

904
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,300
And like you said Johnny, Johnny
Depp that whole cast is stellar

905
00:51:56,100 --> 00:52:00,000
and it's what it's actually one
of the first musicals by sign.

906
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,900
Hi.
I'm, that made me really see the

907
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:08,000
range of what theater is
possible capable of because

908
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,100
company was probably the first
one that made me go.

909
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:15,400
Okay, I think I can do this.
And then I saw and then I

910
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,200
started digging a little bit
more into Sondheim and found

911
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,600
Sweeney Todd and some of his
others and it's just it holds a

912
00:52:22,607 --> 00:52:25,900
special place in my heart.
Jose Jared real quick.

913
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,600
What's like a go-to song for you
from Sweeney Todd?

914
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:35,700
Because for me, I love poor
thing I had.

915
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:39,400
And I just think that as they
move through the story of

916
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,500
Sweeney Todd's former life where
she clearly kind of knows what's

917
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:44,000
going on.
Yeah.

918
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:49,200
What's happening in the story as
well as the actual lyricism and

919
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,700
the music that's going on?
I man it's just think it's

920
00:52:52,700 --> 00:52:54,800
incredible.
Honestly any Time Purell.

921
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,900
He's on, it's on.
The screen.

922
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:58,900
Was like my favorite part of
that?

923
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,000
Sweet spot is so good.
Go ahead.

924
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,500
Sorry.
When you just when he goes,

925
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:06,400
finally my arm is complete.
Like there's like two of my

926
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:12,900
favorite has the feel of like
the Beatles.

927
00:53:14,300 --> 00:53:18,600
What's, I'll shoot my brain to
the the song that they made

928
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,400
that's completely based off the
circus poster?

929
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,000
Oh yeah, for the benefit of mr.
Kite, Yes, yeah.

930
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,400
Pirelli just has that Vibe about
it and it's perfect.

931
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,400
I was gonna say Sweeney Todd is
so good that they made a whole

932
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,200
episode of The Office where Andy
is in Sweeney Todd and and it

933
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,500
still holds up even after that,
like that's - eat.

934
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:42,600
All right.
Brad.

935
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,900
My number two is the only one on
this list that didn't start as a

936
00:53:44,900 --> 00:53:47,800
Broadway musical, but you know,
that of all the old MGM

937
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,000
musicals, it's my very favorite
and it is Judy Garland in Meet

938
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:51,900
Me in st.
Louis.

939
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,000
This is just, it's one of those
movies.

940
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:56,700
That's like kind of on the
border of even being a musical

941
00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:59,600
because there's only like, four
or five songs, but there's

942
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,500
something.
So, again, like Earnest about it

943
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,500
and it's about a family and it's
about persevering through the

944
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:09,100
hard times as a tight-knit
family that movie speaks to me,

945
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,100
I watch it every year at
Christmas, like you do white

946
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:14,300
Christmas.
So that is my number two and

947
00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:17,500
that brings us to all of our
number one picks Brad.

948
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,300
What's your number one?
My number one, it is probably

949
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:24,500
this might be a little cliche
but hopefully the rest of my

950
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:27,900
list took care of that West Side
Story, man.

951
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:35,700
Yeah, okay.
It's a are you guys?

952
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:37,900
There is Westside your guys is
number one.

953
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,700
It's my number one.
I didn't put it there for the

954
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:46,400
purpose of just like, trying to
move the needle forward.

955
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,200
Yeah.
Yeah.

956
00:54:48,700 --> 00:54:50,800
Is it?
Is it, is it like a cliche in

957
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,100
the musical theater community?
That that is like like the, you

958
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:58,100
know, it's like, you know, if
you don't know basketball, you

959
00:54:58,100 --> 00:55:00,100
know, Michael Jordan.
You just say yeah mine.

960
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:01,900
We're gonna have the goat, but
you don't know why.

961
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:06,300
Yeah, yeah and it I guess the
same thing could be said about

962
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:08,900
LeBron so, you know.
Yeah.

963
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:14,700
It's just a, for me.
If we're saying like top five, I

964
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:18,300
wouldn't I try to stay away from
the like, the suggested top

965
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:18,900
five.
Sure.

966
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:22,300
Yeah, but you're not about to
say Singing in the Rain.

967
00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:24,400
No, no.
I'm gonna put.

968
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,700
I'm gonna put West Side Story as
my honorable mention, as the

969
00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:30,500
like, Mount Rushmore.
Yeah.

970
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:36,100
Maybe all, by itself.
Yeah, of movie musicals, and I'm

971
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:38,700
gonna go, I'm gonna throw you
guys a curve.

972
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:43,900
I think this is a hot take.
I really dig in the Heights.

973
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:47,800
Oh, okay.
Now you you were in in the

974
00:55:47,808 --> 00:55:50,400
Heights, right?
I was in Boston, actually.

975
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:58,500
Okay, for for the purpose of
what we're it came to us like

976
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:01,200
the timing timing that I came to
us during the pandemic.

977
00:56:02,700 --> 00:56:09,000
Also, I'm a New Yorker.
I'm in Hamilton Lynn's my boss,

978
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:16,400
so I gotta write, right?
And just just for the purpose of

979
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,300
like, what in the Heights means
for I think this is the converse

980
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:24,300
of like a, you know, when you
were saying a musical that was

981
00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:29,600
made better as a movie or vice
versa, even though the musical

982
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,200
is great, the movie, I don't
know the movie just did

983
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,800
something for me.
That was that was really

984
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,800
special.
I think it was very Monumental

985
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,000
and very extremely
underappreciated.

986
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:42,400
Absolutely.
In my opinion both that movie

987
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,900
and the you know, the new
Spielberg version of West Side

988
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:46,900
Story.
Like both of those movies

989
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:51,700
deserve better and yeah.
You know, Anthony was so good in

990
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:54,400
the Heights and I thought he was
going to get some more

991
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,700
recognition than he did, but
man, it was just a great movie.

992
00:56:58,700 --> 00:57:01,400
And again, like when you're
talking about lin-manuel

993
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,400
Miranda, like it's a great text,
but I think you're right.

994
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,100
I think the movie elevated the
show to a New Height there.

995
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:14,700
Yeah, the show, the show was, I
think, partly conflicted by the

996
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:17,100
task that it had.
It had to be.

997
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:23,400
It had to be digestible enough
for Broadway audiences to get it

998
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:29,000
because I mean, maybe this is
another hot take, but, you know,

999
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,600
I think if you can get rich
dense Sondheim, like you can get

1000
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,300
hip hop.
And so, I don't think that we

1001
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:36,800
should ever dumb down hip-hop
for musical theater sake,

1002
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,000
absolute Hamilton, prove that.
But the fact that it was new, I

1003
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:46,400
think that the, the, the, the
stage show just did so much to

1004
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,300
advance the ears of Senora of
musical, theater listeners.

1005
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,100
And without it, we wouldn't have
gotten Hamilton.

1006
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:58,700
So, you know, I think the movie
musical is a bit of the same and

1007
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:02,900
then it just just a director of
the direct direct oral choices

1008
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:06,600
by John and chew having them on
the side of the building during

1009
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:12,100
Sunrise is shots of the gwb,
just a bustling neighborhood

1010
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:16,200
that they created Anthony's
performance.

1011
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,300
I mean there was just so We need
the cameos and a bunch of my

1012
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:22,900
friends are in it to that's the
reason it's up there for me.

1013
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:25,800
Alright everybody.
There you have it.

1014
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,400
Those are our top 5 movie
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1015
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,600
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1020
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1022
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1024
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1025
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,200
Once again, this has been Jarred
Dixon, he is currently on tour

1026
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,200
with the Philip cast in the
North American tour of Hamilton

1027
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,800
as Aaron Burr.
You guys are camping out in

1028
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,500
Boston for a couple weeks,
right?

1029
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,600
Yeah, we'll be there for you.
I think two months

1030
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,500
unfortunately, by the time I
think by the time this comes

1031
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:22,800
out, I may be out of the show.
I'm actually leaving February

1032
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,200
5th.
Wow.

1033
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,400
Well, I mean you for a good
reason so like yeah, yeah we

1034
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,700
understand this guy is going to
go on to incredible things.

1035
00:59:32,700 --> 00:59:35,500
He's already reached the
Mountaintop with Aaron Burr and

1036
00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:38,200
I think that there's another
mountain and view for him, it's

1037
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,500
been just an inspiration to talk
to you today.

1038
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,800
I can't thank you enough for
sitting down with us Jarrod

1039
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:44,700
Yeah, thank you guys for having
me.

1040
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:46,900
I appreciate it.
Alright everybody, we will be

1041
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:50,200
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1042
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,000
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