Forrest Gump (1994) / Glenmorangie Nectar D'or Single Malt Scotch

0:00 In 1994, director Robert Zemeckis and star Tom Hanks gave the world a rambling exploration of what it was like to live through one of the most tumultuous periods in American history. In 2024, we matched this movie's Oscar gold with some nectar gold. The film is Forrest Forrest Gump. The whiskey is Glenn Moringey nectar. We'll review them both. This is the Film and Whiskey podcast. Welcome to the Film and Whiskey podcast, where each week we review a classic movie and a glass of whiskey. I'm Bob Book.

1:01 How many times do you think we're going to do that this episode? Oh, at least 47. I still don't know how we didn't pair originally Nectar D or with a Denny Villeneuve movie. Well, I think this was this pairing happened before we ever got around to Denny Villeneuve. So maybe next time we can do it because we'll get into talking about our whiskey for the day. But they've released a new expression of this, Brad. It's a 16 year age stated version now. So perhaps our next Denny Villeneuve film can be paired with Nectar.

1:43 But let me go back to my original prompt here. My name is Bob Book. Who are you? Oh, I'm Brad G It's great. Great to meet you, Bob. This week on Film and Whiskey we are looking at the 1994 Best Picture winner, Forrest Gump. Or, as the guy dressed like Abby Hoffman says in this movie, Forrest Gump. Bro it's my favorite part of the whole movie. I've never noticed the way he says it before, but this time through I was like, what did he just say? My name, My name is Florence Gump. Florence Gump. Then everybody in the crowd goes. Gump, what a great moment.

2:25 I don't know just how to moderate the two poles of thought that I have on this film, Brad, because I really want to talk about the movie as a piece of cinema and and evaluate it as a work of art, talk about my issues with it. I also just want to sit here and quote Forrest Gump for an hour because I'm sure I said this on our first episode. This was probably my most quoted film for a long, long time. Like I remember we were in college once and I just remember for some reason there was like, you know, we were, we were on a retreat or something and there were like 8 guys sleeping in bunk beds in this room and two of us kept the other six up all night just saying Forrest Gump quotes.

3:16 It would get real quiet and people would start drifting and then somebody would go, her dream had come true, she was a folk singer. And then everyone would start laughing again. There was just just so many stupid quotes in this dumb movie, Brad. Yeah, I I would put it up there with Anchorman, The Legend of Ron Burgundy for like top most quotable films. Maybe, maybe we need to get back and do a top five bonus episode, Bob. Most quote. Sometime most quotable films. This falls into a really specific quotable movie category though, which is that the quotes, when understood in context, are not that great. It's only when you say them completely divorced from the context that the quotes are funny.

4:01 Yeah, 100%. There are so many moments in this film where the script is so tight and keeps you moving through scene by scene that you just get these little funny 1 liners that because Zemeckis is trying to get through such a large swath of history, like he doesn't have time to linger on these scenes. And you get a lot of really fun, funny 1 liners because of it. So Brad, our first time around, I had brought up that this is a really polarizing movie among critics. It was like it was respected for what it was. But I think similarly to a movie like Green Book, like once it wins the Oscar, then everybody turns on it and it becomes I can't believe this movie won the Academy Award for a long, long time.

4:49 We. All liked it, but. But now we don't. For a long time, this became reviled by critics. And so I think people are starting to come back around on it, but in a much more, I don't know, level headed sense, which is like, this is not a perfect film. It's good for what it is. We can debate if it won the Oscar or not. But I remember when I first brought this up to you, you know, in our first episode in Season 1 on this, you were kind of surprised that this had been polarizing at all. And now having dealt with movie critics as much as we have, Brad, and also having reviewed, what, 300 movies or something like that at this point, I guess let's check back in on that debate. Can you see why critics would have been divided on this movie, whether or not you agree with that? I think that I can understand it when I look at particularly one other film in the Best Picture race. Pulp Fiction is the obvious critic darling here. Like like you're talking about Tarantino's big coming out party?

5:54 Like everybody loved Reservoir Dogs in what, 9192? 92, yeah. Yeah, so a few years later, you know, he makes this masterpiece of a film. And then you have the the pop sensation that is Forrest Gump. And I, I can understand why critics would be annoyed that it would win. I, I think I'm curious if there's a difference between critical reception before the Oscars and then critical reaction to the Oscar win. Like, did critics like the movie just plain and simple, you know, on their review? Were critics a fan of this film before it got caught up in the politics of Hollywood?

6:37 I think critics were like, you know, when you look up a movie on on Metacritic, if it's like under an 80 or 85, it doesn't say universal acclaim. It says like generally positive reviews. And I think that's a good way to sum it up. They were like lukewarm on this movie. Like, hey, it's a pretty good movie. It's got great visual effects. It's a fantastic summer movie to go see. Obviously, they had its detractors as well. But again, this is when the Oscars had a lot more cachet in our society. And so even though a lot of movie critics have never put too much emphasis on the Oscars, it was still like the popular mechanism for saying, hey, history, This is the movie from this year that we think represents the year in film. And when you have a movie like Pulp Fiction break into that five nominee category, it's almost like, Oh my gosh, like this movie could really do it.

7:33 This is a revolutionary film in American history. And then to lose, but not just to lose, but to lose the Forrest Gump is kind of, I think the turning point with a lot of critics. And it's not necessarily that they hated the movie. It's just like you gave a three star movie The Oscar in a year where we really could have like coronated something new and exciting in American cinema. And again, now if that's fair or not, I think that's what happened there. You say 3 star, but famed reviewer and I would say the favorite of this podcast, Roger Ebert, gave it a four-star review. We sure did. I must call him Forrest Gump.

8:14 Roger Ebert loved a good time at the movies, you know what I mean? And and Roger Hebert was also like much more than his peers, I think, susceptible to exciting visual effects in movies. And at the time the VFX and Forrest Gump were. Cutting. Incredible. Yeah. Yes, and I think that the spectacle of it definitely tipped his hand. He also gave like the first Harry Potter movie 4 stars. And yeah, which I think is like kind of a good comparison here, 'cause I wouldn't call that a perfect movie, but it was something that was new. It was something that was exciting. It was at the cutting edge of what we could do with technology at the time. And so, yeah, I see why Rodger Ebert gave it four stars. I also see why Bob Book is not going to give it four stars. So.

8:58 Can I read you one line from the Ebert review that just made me laugh really hard? Yeah, sure. So he's talking about how Forrest IQ is 75, and you might be able to argue that Forrest can't understand everything that's happening to him, but Ebert is saying that he does. And he says he even understands everything that's important about love. Although Jenny, the girl he falls in love with in grade school and never falls out of love with, tells him Forrest, you don't know what love is. She is a stripper by that time. Like it's, it's, it's little lies like that where I'm like, man, Ebert is the goat.

9:39 He's so funny, man, That's great. All right, on that note, on the note of Jenny stripping, let's get into talking about this movie now. Again, this is season 10 of our podcast where we are revisiting all the films from our very first season of the podcast because I think we've improved in our ability to review both movies and whiskey. If you'd like to listen to our original review, you can check us out on Patreon. We've put season one behind a pay wall. You can't get it publicly anymore, but if you really want to hear us stumble through, check us out on patreon.com/film Whiskey where you can support us at three different tiers, A-35 and $7.00 a month tier. Each tier comes with exclusive perks, including access to a special Discord channel that Brad and I are on pretty much every single day talking to people from Film and Whiskey Nation.

10:24 Brad, it's time for us to get into, Brad explains. Brad's going to give us the movie plots with only 60 seconds taken on the clock, so let's go ahead and do your take with this little segment that we call, Brad explains. Brad Explains is the part of the show where Brad breaks down the plot of the film that he has just seen, often for the first time. This is at least Brad's second time seeing Forrest Gump. I have to imagine that even in the G household, you probably saw this at some point growing up, right? Like this is not just time #2 for you. I don't think I saw this movie until college. Wow. Yeah yeah. Fourscope was not a staple of the G household. I it was probably like 18/19/20 when I saw it for the first time.

11:13 Man, that's wow. Yeah, dude, I, I feel like this movie was so ubiquitous in the late 90s, like it was on some channel on TV at every moment of the day for a solid 8 years, I would say. And now I know you didn't have cable. I, I understand you don't have to tell me, you freaking Amish person you. But like, you know, it was the second highest grossing film of 1994. And then it hit video and the soundtrack became, I think for a time, either the best or the second best selling soundtrack of all time. Like, this movie was freaking everywhere. I saw this movie at a way too young age.

11:53 Didn't really understand what was going on with Forrest and Jenny in that dorm room for a while. But man, man, my parents, what were you letting me watch back then? See. You were on the same level as Forrest, Yeah. Pretty much, Pretty much, man. All right, dude, You have one minute on the clock to break down the plot of Forrest Gump. Folks, we're going into full spoilers. So if you have not seen this 30 plus year old film, go ahead and hit pause here. Go watch Forrest Gump because you're one of the few that has not seen it. And then come back and rejoin the episode. Brad 60 seconds and go. Forrest Gump is a film that follows its titular character, Forrest Gump as he grows up in the Deep South. That's a capital D Capital S Deep South, for those who are wondering, back in the 1950s.

12:41 It follows him through the, as I said earlier, tumultuous sixties, 70s and 80s as he finds himself in various extraordinary circumstances in his ultimate pursuit of being a good person, honoring his friends and pursuing his one true love, Jenny. He's also the father of Hailey Joel Osmond. He sure is. Dude literally every single time I've ever seen this movie I'm like completely blindsided when the child comes out and it's Hailey Joel Osman and I have the exact same reaction.

13:23 I'm like, oh wow, it's Hailey Joel Osman. And the way he says hello there, Mr. Gump, is the most perfect line reading of the whole film. There are so many great line readings in this film. It is like Robert Zemeckis wins the Best Director Oscar for this film, which I think of all of Forrest Gump's Oscar wins, I probably have the biggest issue with that. And we can talk about that later. But if there is ever going to be a reason to justify him winning best director, it is getting these line readings out of tiny, tiny characters in this movie. Whether it's the literally tiny Hailey, Joel Osmond or every time Dorothy Harris, the bus driver shows up, there's so dude, there's so much disdain in her voice when he goes, Mama said I shouldn't be talking to strangers and she goes, this is the bus to. School.

14:16 It makes me laugh. She's got a cigarette hanging out of her mouth. I freaking love the way the line readings in this movie go. Oh man, and who who plays his friend Bubba Gump or Bubba? Bubba is played by an actor named Michael T Williamson. Yeah, Michael T Williamson freaking knocks it out of the park. Like every moment he is on screen, I just want to be his best friend. And the way he sucks his lip in when Gary Sinise is yelling at me, it's just, it's like a perfect little moment of physical humor in the movie. Dude, where where he goes? My name is Forrest Gump.

14:58 People called me Forrest Gump. I'm going to do this all episode. It's it's so good. OK, where do you want to start talking about the movie? Because I think we could we could start with the movie itself and then broaden it out into the discussion around the movie. Or we could do the reverse of that. I I don't know if I really want to talk about the discussion around the movie, unless it's like a major point of the episode. Like, I don't know, this movie has stuck in the cultural consciousness, but, and there's a reason for that. And I don't know, is there, is there any argument there? What, what, what are your thoughts, Bob?

15:39 Let's start there, I suppose. What's going to say? I clearly intended it to be a big part of the episode, or I wouldn't have presented you with two options. Brad. Yes, we can start here and end here, or we can end here and start here. And you're like, no, let's just knock one of those two things completely off the docket for today. Cool. Yeah, I mean, I just want Film and Whiskey Nation to know how dismissive I am of your takes on this podcast. Believe me, they know Brad. They've had ten seasons to figure that one out. I guess I want to revisit, if we're going to start there, I want to revisit this conversation around like, why is there such a disconnect between certain people and the general public on this movie? And, and like, it's sometimes hard to explain. Like if you're just talking to like your average moviegoer, I don't really know anybody that's like the average moviegoer that has ever been like Forrest Gump bad movie. It is a it is a purely enjoyable film. Even the average movie goer could probably say, yeah, this movie goes about two inches deep on any subject. Like, it's it's certainly not some insanely detailed exploration of America's history and geopolitical climate and everything else.

16:57 Like, it's just, it's like a greatest hits album of things that happened in the 60s and 70s in America. And you know what, sometimes you like to put a greatest hits album on. I don't want to dig through all my favorite artists, 10 best albums to find the songs I want. Just compile them on a disc for me. And then I can just play the hits. And I think that if you approach the movie with the understanding that this is a greatest hits album of America, I think it becomes a much more easygoing experience. I, I think that for me, this is far and away the, the setting of the film, the like, let's go through America's greatest hits.

17:38 For me, that's the backdrop that like, that has nothing to do with what this movie is trying to say. And, you know, to look at the IMDb score, Bob, this isn't just a movie that most people are like, oh, yeah, Forrest Gump. This is an 8.8 out of 10. Yeah. 100%. That is a massively high. Score. Like, yeah. And perhaps I understated it. If we're talking about popular films in America in the last 50-60 years, there are very few movies that I feel like the critical consensus on and the general population's consensus are more divergent. Like I just, I really think that at best, you'll get a critic to say this is a pretty good movie for what it is, But then you look at IMDb and it's like, this is, is this still top ten? It might still be top 10.

18:28 It is the 11th. 11th. Yeah, but Oppenheimer, Yeah, Yeah. I mean, Rotten Tomatoes, 76% for critics and 95% for audience. So like, yeah, there, there's definitely a disconnect here. And I I think it's because critics don't have a soul. If I. If I had to guess, because like when I when I watched this movie, I think this time around I finally understood why this hit so deep for people. And I I, I think it's because Zemeckis has this talent for painting and really broad strokes across a massive time period in American history.

19:14 And yet somehow he like catches many of like the deep desires and longings of humanity all in this one character of Forrest Gump. And like any human being watching this movie can find a little bit of them self and his character. Like if you've ever had a desire to see something beautiful in the world, Forrest also has that desire. If you have a desire, if you have a desire to experience love and belonging and relationships that matter to you, you got Forrest Gump wanting the exact same thing. Dude. The moment where he's worried about passing on his lack of intelligence to his son, Oh yeah is heart wrenching.

19:58 And like who? Who can't, once you've had a child, relate with that fear of like, oh man, like what if I passed down one of the worst parts of myself to my child? Like, and, and there's like, I could go on and on and on. Like I, I want to be the kind of person that doesn't let money and fame change me. Oh, guess what? Forrest Gump is also that and, and the The thing is, you could read all of those things and be like, well, there's your problem. He made a perfect character that doesn't have any flaws. But the beautiful thing about Forrest Gump is that he doesn't stand emotionally distant from the world around him. Like the way he shows terror when he is trying to save Bubba, when he thinks he's passing down his lack of intelligence to his son.

20:52 The joy that he has when he sees Jenny in Washington DC. Like he engages with the world around him in such a emotionally vulnerable way that he's not just this blank slate of a character. He is somebody who has motivations and has desires. And I just like, I don't know how Zemeckis does it because I'm with you. I know you. I know that one of your main points on this is that the broad strokes are, are tough to swallow at times. I just, I think he nails it, man. Man, how do I want to respond to this? I think maybe let's let's try to arrive at the end of framing the debate around Forrest Gump and I'll I'll answer your points with what I would assume to be the push back. Now, I don't necessarily agree with all this, but I think for me watching it this time, the biggest flaw with this movie is that it it kind of wants to have its cake and eat it too, when it comes to how it presents its characters as metaphors for a tumultuous time in American history. And I what I mean by that is like it wants you to understand at the most basic level that Forrest Gump is a simple man who has simple American values, and perhaps not as a result of those values, but and also Forrest

22:25 Gump winds up wildly successful at the at the same time, his best friend Jenny is really representative of the sort of lostness of a generation of the baby boomers who went off seeking something fulfilling for a really long time. And perhaps not as a result of that seeking, but just and also they got themselves into some really deep shit. Do you know what I mean? And I think that I think that where critics really started to dislike what they felt the movie was saying was like, you want to make that metaphor, but then you want it to stop right there. And you don't want us to trace it to it's it's logical conclusion, right?

23:10 Like you have to kind of put yourself back in the historical context of this movie coming out. It's like smack dab in the middle of Clinton's first term. You're coming off of a decade plus of Reagan and then George HW Bush, where America like very loudly declared like, we are returning to conservative values in America, whether that is social or economic. Like this is where we have arrived as a nation. And I think that a lot of critics read this movie as, like, whether or not Zemeckis is trying to make this an apology for, you know, baby boomers kind of coming back into traditional American values.

23:53 It certainly seems to espouse that. And that Jenny as an extension is, you know, a portrayal of we went and sold our Wild oats as a generation, but now we're kind of coming back to conservatism. Now, again, I don't even know if I want to say that I see all that in this movie. I just think that that's kind of what the pushback on the movie is. Not that it is a conservative movie, but that it wants to paint Forrest and Jenny as these really kind of broad strokes metaphors, but then it never really wants to examine the implications of painting them in those metaphors. Like, what does it mean that Forrest Gump is your simple American values representative because he's also developmentally disabled.

24:36 You know what I mean? Like, he, you can't really take that metaphor too hard because then what are you saying about America? And on the flip side, it's like, you know, is Jenny's only redemption when she becomes quote, UN quote conservative at the end of the movie. I think that there are a lot of thorny things that come up as a result of those metaphors being introduced. And I will say I don't think the movie intends to go any farther than it does, but I think that's what a lot of people's problem with it is. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. I I guess when I look at this film, I, I don't see it as a broad strokes representation of entire generations. For me, it it's two individual characters who see the world in a certain way, who choose to act in a certain way because of how they see the world and there's consequences based on those actions.

25:38 Like for me, it's as simple as that. And you know, to get back to the themes of human desire and what we would all want, I think Jenny represents the part of us that hopes that no matter what we do in this world, somebody will still love us. Like, like to me that like that's the entire character of Jenny is like no matter what I do, I really deeply hope that there would be a Forrest Gump character to love me no matter the decisions I've made. And the moment where Robin Wright looks at him and and they're at the house and he asks her to marry him and she says, like, you would never want to marry me.

26:20 Like it's a heartbreaking moment. And it speaks once again to that deep fear that we all have is man, if somebody really knew me, they would never want to be my friends, my lover, my spouse, like they would never want me to be their mother, father like I. Once again, it's an example of I think Zemeckis is diving deep into the human experience. I will say, and let's move out of that whole debate thing because I want to get back to a thing you were saying about the kind of one-on-one interactions. Where this movie really succeeds is when it kind of drops all of the stuff about America and the pop culture references and Forrest Gump weaving in and out of these random historic events. And when you just get like Forest and Sally Field in a room together or Forest and Robin Wright in a room together or Forest and Bubba like by a river in Vietnam for 10 seconds, the, the actual human relationships within the movie are incredibly well acted.

27:21 They're really well written for the most part, I would say, you know, like Sally Field gets nominated for an Oscar for portraying Mama in this movie. And she's in the movie for like 8 minutes. Like she's I I forgot how little she's in this movie, but that very last interaction, she just dude, they they leave the camera on her for a minute and she kind of collects herself before saying this line. And and you know, she starts kind of smiling and while tearing up and it's this brilliant portrayal of like a mom comforting a son while also grieving. And she you know, she's talking about dying.

28:01 She brings back up the life is like a box of chocolates. And then she just says, I will miss you, Forrest. And my God, dude was IA puddle on the floor in that moment. Like when this movie goes for the waterworks. I do appreciate that it doesn't happen in the like broad strokes, talking about America stuff. It happens in the interpersonal relationships, and I think that's where it succeeds. Yeah, and you know, you have things like the Vietnam War, which everyone has strong opinions on. And yet, in the moments when Forest is running back and forth trying to save his squad members, it all of a sudden, it doesn't matter what political affiliation you have. You understand the pain and the suffering and the desire to be helpful in an unwinnable situation that Forrest has. And as he's holding Bubba, it's that moment where the narration of the film works like a charm, that there's this counterpoint of Forest in the memory who doesn't know what's going to happen, and Forest narrating the memory who is diving into the regret that he has of like, yeah, if I had known that this was the last thing I'd ever say to my best good friend, I would have said something different.

29:23 And it's just, dude, it's Waterworks. It's incredible. Yeah, and it's, again, I think that a lot of people, a lot of critics thought that this movie was really emotionally manipulative. And I can see why they would think that. But I think that there's enough attention given to each of these relationships that he has with Mama, with Bubba, with Jenny, with Lieutenant Dan, that they each have their own unique rhythm and dialogue to them. And then they each have their own arc and emotional payoff. And I don't feel like they were, you know, manipulating US by pulling a string in a way that seemed false, especially on those fronts.

30:03 Yeah, man, I, I mean, I, I feel like there's so many directions we could go with this. But what what do you think when it comes to Zemeckis as a director in this movie? What are some elements of the cinematography of the acting performances of of the different things you see on the screen that that drew you in this time? So Zemeckis kind of made his bones as a Steven Spielberg protege. And then he, you know, he gets deployed by Spielberg in his first few films, and then he makes it big with Back to the Future. And ever since Back to the Future, Zemeckis has been known as a guy who even more than Spielberg, like, he loves him some special effects.

30:44 He loves kind of pushing the boundaries on what you can do with computer imagery. You know, he's very similar to a James Cameron or a George Lucas in that regard. I think that. Just as successful in all his films. Yeah, I mean, he's he's never made a bad movie and neither is George Lucas. What are you talking about? So, and I don't mean anything disparaging to Zemeckis in that regard, because I think that he's a good director. I also just think that like when you look at how Steven Spielberg maps out a shot in his mind and the Spielberg wonders and, and the way that he is just like mentally storyboarded every shot, it's insane what that guy can do. Zemeckis, I feel like is a really good copycat of Spielberg in that like the camera is moving around a lot in this movie.

31:32 And I think the actual like the lighting of the movie, the blocking of the movie. It looks like a movie. It's a beautiful film to look at in parts. I don't think that I would look at the majority of the shots in this movie as like artfully composed. There's a lot of shots of like, that's a beautiful mountain, but the mountain's beautiful. Like the the camera work in this movie is very Workman like. It's it's you know, it gets the job done, but it's not on the level of like a Spielberg. Does that make sense? 100% I think there's a few moments that stand out to me. One being when when Forrest is in the the hospital and he's narrating something and all of a sudden you see Lieutenant Dan's hand like reach up behind him and grab him and pull him down. Like, like there's little moments like that. Or even when when he's walking out from being on television in New York and the door closes and Lieutenant Dan is waiting there for him.

32:32 I think there are some great moments where the camera almost hides something and gives you a bit of a surprise. Even when he's in Vietnam and it's raining. And then there's the moment where the rain stops and then immediately the bullets start flying. Like there. There's a moment where Zemeckis likes to try to surprise the viewer. But I'm with you. Like he's not a Hall of Fame camera usage type director. And I think like similarly, I wouldn't call him a great director of actors. That's not to say that everybody in this movie isn't very good, but we don't we don't think about like, man, Robert Zemeckis really directed Tom Hanks to that Oscar.

33:18 It's like, no, Tom Hanks went and studied the speech patterns of the kid that plays Forrest Gump. Tom Hanks was leading into like he was at the height of his powers here and and Robert Zemeckis is a competent enough director that he knows when to leave the camera on Sally Field for an extra 5 seconds to get her her Oscar nomination. But I feel like it's more a function of working with really good actors than it is that he brought something out in these actors. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's like always, I don't know, I, I feel like your distaste overall for the film in my mind, like, I don't know why isn't it a boon to to Zemeckis that he knew to do that for five more seconds on Sally Fields and he knew how to let Tom Hanks be Tom Hanks like. Oh yeah, I don't.

34:08 I don't. Know if it's a a good or a bad thing, but I think we can say that he was in charge of that final product and put together a film where people were getting nominated for best acting performances and he was under he was under it he received a nomination and won for best director like I I think he was kind of doing something right for most of the. Yeah, and I feel like you, I don't, I don't want you to misconstrue what I'm saying either. Like, you can absolutely be a Workman, like director and like that is a compliment in itself. Hollywood history is full of guys like this. Michael Cortese is like one of the best directors of classic Hollywood when he directed freaking Casablanca, but he was the guy that they called when you just needed a guy to plug into a movie. You know what I mean?

34:53 He's not like an he's not considered an auteur because he doesn't have a style of his own. And I guess that's what I'm saying about Zemeckis. Like dude's a good director. You know, I don't we don't talk about him like we talked about a Coppola or a Scorsese or something, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he's bad. I'm just saying, we look at like Paul Thomas Anderson and every PTA movie. We say somebody gave the best performance of their career. That's not really what you get with Zemeckis. That doesn't mean that he can't direct an actor to an Oscar nomination. I like, I think you hit the nail on the head. You just might have misconstrued me a little bit. Sure, that's my favorite thing to do. Well hey man, why don't we misconstrue each other for a little bit and let's start speaking in French nonsense at each other while we look at our whiskey for the day, the Glen Moringey Nectar.

35:50 All right, everybody, today we are going to be drinking from one of our favorite brands. We absolutely love Glenmorengy and we're going to be drinking the most famous of their brands in our minds simply for the fact that it is called Nectar. The Glenn Moringy Nectar Door. This is man. This is legendary in film. The annals of film and whiskey. And I'm, I'm curious like is it going to stand up to the amount of attention we've paid to it over the? Years. I don't know, man, because even at the time we reviewed it. And let's back up a minute.

36:35 We first tried the Glenn Moringy brand when we picked up a sampler of 100ML samples of four of their different products. And I think back then this was like 25 bucks. It was like the best possible deal you could get in Scotch. I think they've since discontinued this sampler because so many of the whiskeys in here have undergone a little bit of a renovation. But it it included their standard 10 year, it included the Quinta Reuben, it included the La Santa and then like the big dog in the box was supposed to be this Nectar door. And Brad, we really liked the La Santa and we especially liked the Quinta Reuben and the nectar door was like, this is good. This is still better than the standard 10 year, but we didn't think it was worth the what we consider to be astronomical price hike over the other three in the box. So I'm excited to revisit this because again, I feel like this is supposed to be the big selling point of the box. It's the most expensive of the four, or at least it was at the time we purchased this.

37:36 The version that we have in the box is actually now an outdated version of nectar door. It was 12 years old at the time of this bottling and it was finished in so turn casks, which we've talked about many, many times through the history of film and whiskey. It gives it's a French wine. It gives really sweet character. Now this is a 16 year age stated product. It's finished in at least three different types of casks. I think one of them being Tokai casks from Hungary. So we'll have to try that new version, but we're kind of paying homage to Season 1 by revisiting what we tried back then in this 12 year expression. Now I will tell you Bob, the Glenmorengy Taster pack is still available. It is still for 100ML bottles of the original, which is the 10 year, the La Santa 12 year, the Kintorubin 12 year and the Nectar Dor.

38:32 So you can still get this. It will cost you $32 which for 400 MLS of Scotch I would say is a very good price. I am really surprised you can still buy it anywhere. I would have assumed that this, like the skew would be dead by now because the Quinta Reuben is not 12 year anymore and it hasn't been for five years now. The Nectar door is not 12 years anymore. I don't know about the Lasanta, but like, this seems like they're just trying to burn through old stock of stuff, which is totally fine. I still think it can benefit. Yeah, I I think it's worth picking up for sure. Well, let's get into the review here. Bob. I have drank this already. I, I've taken my notes, so I'll jump in on the nose while you get started.

39:16 I think this is one of the best noses we've had in a while. It's pretty delightful. Oh my gosh, dude. There's like almost like a toasted candied almonds note on the nose. There's a ton of honey, almost like a honeycomb. There's some prosciutto and it it got citrusy for me, but all the, the, the word that came to my mind was like a lemon meringue, like a little bit creamy, a little bit zesty. This is an incredible nose Bob. I give it a nine out of 10. I'm going to be just a little bit beneath you. I'm going to be in an 8 1/2 on the nose. There's a lot of different directions this one can go and you know, we never mean to punish a nose as a result, but I can't quite pinpoint where this is going to go flavor wise. It's really creamy.

40:05 You, you absolutely nailed that. I get a little bit of melon on this. I get. Quite a bit of spicy like like black pepper as well, but then there's a lot of lemon and it's for me it's more lemon zest or even like the pith of a lemon. It's like a a more aggressive lemon. I do definitely get the influence of the wine casks here. This has a really dark grapey nose similar to I don't know like a pinot noir for me and and I would even call it almost raisiny really, really good. But again, like, is it going to taste like wine? Is it going to taste like melon? It has those kind of bright, almost Irish whiskey notes at the top of it. So I'm at an 8 1/2, but let's dive into the taste. I think when you move into the pallet you get just this bomb of honey.

40:52 The lemon meringue really sticks around for me. It's a really creamy whiskey experience. You get a bit of an orange zest that pops at you, and I thought it got almost into the territory of like a Maple syrup. The palate is a little bit less impressive than the nose for me, but just barely. I'm going to give it an 8 1/2 here. I'm going to say this in the nicest way I can think to say it. Brad, I feel like we've always plugged the Quinta Reuben as you should buy this whiskey if you're starting to get serious about Scotch because it's mind blowingly good at a really good price. I almost want to transfer that title to this, but has nothing to do with the price and it also has nothing to do with the taste.

41:40 I just think that like from the moment I sipped it, I could tell this was an incredibly well made Scotch. It's really creamy. There are some almost nondescript fruity notes going on here. It has almost an ashy sort of burnt taste at the back, in a good way. Like you, you get that on a lot of scotches, even on non peated scotches, but it's not complex, you know what I mean? Like I, I'm not going to sit here and pull notes out of this for the next 10 minutes. Like it just tastes like a really creamy, really good wine cask finished Scotch. And I think that I would almost want to offer this to a person who has only ever had J&B or you know what I mean, or like Cutty Sark and be like, this is what a $90.00 bottle of Scotch tastes like.

42:30 Because if I'm telling someone, Oh yeah, like, do you taste the figgy pudding in this? And they're going to be like, no, I don't know what that I don't know how to look for figgy pudding. I don't think you can really look for anything in this. It's just a very generically good Scotch. And I like it because of that. And I'm I sound like I'm insulting it, but. You certainly do. I I I'm going to give it an 8 on the taste. It's just like I I don't have any notes to give on it other than that. Where you at on the finish? I'll give it a 7 1/2 on the finish. I think that it it has a really nice kind of fade out on the finish. It doesn't drop off a Cliff, but it also, I haven't been thinking about the finish at all. You know what I mean? Like it's just a really good barley heavy creamy Scotch finish and I sound like a broken record.

43:17 Yeah, I, I am getting a lot more here than you are, Bob. Like I think that the finish is incredible. I, I think it's the best part of this experience for me. The flavors sat on my palate for a long time after I was done. And it's this, this fresh lemon zest. It gets into those kind of almost like a Cream of wheat sourdough bread kind of territory. And the honey sticks around for the long run. I think it's a 9 1/2 on the finish and I think for me, I'm going to give it a 9 1/2 on balance as well. Like the I, I would agree with you that this is not the most complex whiskey I've ever had, but I think that that mixture of the grainy notes with the honey, with the fruit, with the citrus zestiness, that there is a lot going on here and it's executed at a really high level. Yeah, I I won't disagree with any of that. I I think that on the finish, for me, if I can revisit my finish for a hot second, I won't change my score. 2nd and 3rd sip definitely improved the experience. It's much thicker, much more viscous and, and I think for one of the first times ever, I really am getting true notes of butterscotch on this.

44:34 It's not quite caramel and it's not quite Maple and it's right in between that it reminds me a lot of like a butterscotch ice cream topping. I really, really like this a lot. I again, I still don't think it's complex, but I'm going to give it a nine out of 10 on the balance because everything that it does, it's doing at a high level, even if I'm not pulling 50 different tasting notes out of it. Now Bob, this is going to set you back $82 in the state of Ohio for a bottle. I think that's a still a pretty good value. Let me ask you this, is that for the 12 year expression or the new 16? Let me pull it back up and check Bob. It looks on the OHLQ website like it's a picture of the older whiskey.

45:20 But I, I don't know if they've like started to transition what they are shipping to the US. I don't know if you're like finishing out the old batch. What I do know is that in 2022, just two years ago, it won double gold at the San Francisco World Wine and Spirits Competition in the single malt non age stated category. So as of two years ago it was an nasi don't. I don't imagine that the price is going to shoot up if it's a 16 year all of a sudden. No, I was more worried that we were, we would be accidentally harming our scores on this one if they were pricing it out for 16 and we were only reviewing the 12 year, you know, So I don't know, at $82, I think this is overpriced, Brad.

46:08 But it's also like, you know, we have that principle of $10.00 for every year that it's aged. And Glen Moringy has always, always been almost cutting that in half. You know, like we had the Quinto Rubin 14 year that was selling for 50 something dollars and now it's up into $70 territory and we're still like, oh, it's overpriced now. We've been really spoiled by Glen Moringy, I guess is what I'm saying. I think in a vacuum, $82 for this is not a bad value. I just think that I can get better $82 whiskey than this. So I'm going to give it a six, just a six out of 10 on value. Man, yeah, we're, we're far apart here, Bob. I, I think that this is a really good value. I think that there is enough Scotch out there at a higher price that $82 for a really beautiful expression of Scotch. I I'm willing to pay it.

47:06 I I think I'm at an 8 1/2 year on value. Before we give our final scores, let me ask you this When was the last time you revisited Quinta Reuben? Just a few months ago. Which is better? I think this is better. Wow. Yeah, see, I still prefer Quinta Reuben. It's got a little bit more kick to it. Like I I just, I think it's more of a bourbon drinker. Scotch, which is not. That doesn't inherently make it better. I just like it better. It's a nice change of pace for me. This is really, really good. I just don't quite get as much on it as you do. So I'm coming out to a 39 out of 50, which is still a damn good score. I'm almost at the 40 mark. Yeah, we are farther apart than normal, Bob. Usually we're somewhat close.

47:52 I'm at a 45 out of 50. Wow, the 90 out of 100 mark for Brad. This is rarefied error. It is. I can probably count on both hands the amount of times either of us have gone at or above 45. I mean, I don't know, have we done 10 whiskeys at or above 45 out of 100? I don't know man. I don't think we have. It's it's been close, but yeah, I mean, you're talking about getting a nine in every single category. That's hard to do. It is we're coming out on average to a 42 out of 50 or an 84 out of 100. This is like it even hitting 42. We're going to be approaching best whiskey of the season territory here. Yep.

48:37 Much like the movie, I really like this, but because I am not as effusive in my praise as Brad, he thinks that I don't like it at all. I mean, you know, you're you're a trash person, so. I guess so. This whiskey and film were wasted on me. All right, man, let's get back into talking about Forrest Gump. What do you say? Yeah, let's get to it, man. All right. That was the Glenn Moringy the Nectar Single Malt Scotch Whiskey. Brad, we're talking about Forrest Gump. But in order to do that, we have to get to our next segment, which we call 2 Facts and a falsehood.

49:19 Brad is going to try to stump your ball to our right and what is wrong? 2 facts and a falsehood. 2 Facts and a Falsehood is the part of the show where Brad presents me with three items as fact about the making of this movie, one of which is a complete lie. Brad, I've done no research yet again today. I feel like I've really liberated myself from doing research this season. Yeah, you're you're so lazy, Bob. I know. Why would you not? Why did you not do research on the movies for the spot? I learned from the best man. Brad, hit me with your two facts and a falsehood. In fact #1 when the studio imposed budget cuts on the film, both director Robert Zemeckis and star Tom Hanks waved a large part of their fee in exchange for percentage points, which ultimately netted Hanks in the region of $70 million. That was almost a Michael Jackson. Fact #2 In all the scenes of Forrest unloading his empty Nets onto the deck of the Jenny, there is some sort of war paraphernalia contained in the net, from a military helmet to military boots.

50:37 Fact #3 Robert Zemeckis used the paintings of Norman Rockwell as the design inspiration for the town of Greenville, AL. The scene where Forrest sits in the hallway of his school where his while his mother talks to the principal, is a direct recreation of Rockwell's painting Girl with a Black Eye All. Right. Let me let me make sure I understand. Number two, it was that there was some sort of military paraphernalia in. Was it in every scene or in just that scene? It's because he, he drops an empty net like four or five times before, you know, they go into the storm and there's billions of shrimp and each time he drops an empty net, there's some sort of war.

51:24 You know, there's a helmet, there's boots there. There's a few other things. Well, I don't know. I think number one's true #2 might be true, but like to what end? Like why did they do that? Or is it just a cool little fact like there's a boot there? Yeah, I mean, I, I think it, it kind of represents the idea that that Gump's eventual fortune came out of war. Yeah. Who? Knows there's there's not reading there. Sure it's a Mechus. The man is an enigma. Man, these are good. Brad #3 sounds right. That looked very Norman Rockwelly.

52:07 I think you made-up #3 but it you did such a good job making it up that I'm going to say it's true and I'm going to say #2 is the falsehood. Bob, you, I don't know if your gut is right or wrong here, because you did choose the falsehood. Yeah, nailed it. All right. Yeah, cool. Good job. You know, Vito burrito. All right, man, let's dive back into talking about the movie itself. We've touched on the performances a little bit. We've talked in depth about the conversation around it. Brad, there are, I mean, 1994 is a huge year in the history of movies and it's it's been a very big year in film and whiskey history as well.

52:49 I mean, we've done just this season. We did Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, Shawshank and The Lion King. Like, I mean, what a year. Yeah, this is a heck of a year, man. Like what was in the water in this year that directors were just knocking it out of the park with their films? Yeah. You know, oddly enough, I do kind of feel like of all the things that could be named Best Picture in 1994, I do kind of feel like Forrest Gump is the best choice. Not because it's the best movie, but because it really is like a time capsule of what we cared about as America in 1994. And I think what we cared about was like, we Americans have really become jaded by arguing about things. And we don't want to talk about the causes of the Vietnam War anymore.

53:47 And we don't want to talk about how much of A crook Nixon was. And we don't want to talk about our sordid history with drugs and free sex and everything else. Let's just kind of try to come back to what we think are the principles of America and let's focus on that. And, and I see why people didn't like that. I see why people think that America was putting its own head in the sand. But regardless of where you think America was at the time, this movie captured it that I guess it's a perfect encapsulation of however you interpret that part of history. And yes, I think Pulp Fiction's a better movie and probably would have been a better Best Picture winner. But I mean, that's just talking about the quality of the film. I think this movie really captures a moment in history and a lens through which to view the year. So you would say that this this year is an example of the populist approach winning the Oscars? When When has that happened?

54:47 Yeah, the Academy didn't have its head up its own butt. Yeah, I know, man. Look at that. I don't know man, you've seen all four of those movies. Obviously The Lion King, not nominated for best picture, but Shawshank, I think you know, if they, if they redid it now, I almost feel like Shawshank would win cause if they redid it now, Forrest Gump's not winning. It's it's had 30 years of bad publicity because of that. I also don't know if Pulp Fiction is ever going to be palatable enough for a large chunk of the voting membership. Yes. And I think Shawshank's kind of like the the middle ground there. Yeah, I, I mean, at the end of the day, one of the reasons I think Forrest Gump has stood the test of the time is because of how sincere it is.

55:31 Like, and it wouldn't win today because of that. Like, we're so much more cynical as a nation. And I, I don't think that the sincerity of the character of Forrest Gump, let alone the whole film, I just don't think it would work nowadays. Not not in the same way. I would still like it because I, I think the cynicism is tiring and overrated. It's not fun to be cynical, Bob. I think that's what I'm trying to say. It's fun for a time, but you have to come back to reality like Jenny. Yeah. Well, and that's, I think that's another reality of the human experience that we all have had over the last 80 years in America is that it is a very difficult journey to go on to figure out who you are, what you're all about.

56:26 In a world where we have so much more awareness of what's going on in the wider realm of human existence and trying to figure out who we are and the journey we go on in our late teens into our 20s. And then we arrive into our 30s and, and suddenly we have different viewpoints on the world. Like, I think it captures that the tumult of growing up in a very different world than humanity has ever had in in its history. Yeah, man, Well said. I think that we've we've kind of captured most of what we have to say around the movie. And I I feel badly because I don't feel like we reviewed much of the movie itself today. So before we get into, let's make it a double. I have many notes on this movie, Brad, but let's just try to condense it down into a few quick observations. Is there anything that you want to make sure we touch on before we get out of here today?

57:19 You texted me this, so it's your point, but I love the idea of watching this film and maybe like cutting out every single part that's not the bus stop and like just imagining this movie through the eyes of the people sitting at the bus stop. That poor woman at the start of the movie, the nurse that sits down like she's just like I had a hard day, leave me the F alone. And this guy you know, do you want a chocolate? He's just like putting a box in her face. Those must be comfortable shoes. My feet hurt. Like how many more signals could she be giving this guy? This dude will not shut up.

58:00 I also took a note that he is just in general just a horrific listener because there's a point where you think he's like going to genuinely engage someone in dialogue. And he says, did you go to an all girls school or a girls and boys together school? And she goes, oh, it's Coed. And he goes, OK, cool, because Jenny went to a school that was only. And then he dives right back in and it's like forest. This is not how you're supposed to be an active listener, man. It's not all about you. Yeah, the if you made it a a cut of this movie that was the exact same length, but the first 90% of the film, the camera just sat there on the bus stop as he told the story.

58:42 That would be a hell of a movie. I had a couple questions that are a rhetorical questions, but I was thinking about this movie in the history of PG13 movies because like this movie is significantly less violent than a movie like The Avengers, but they show blood. And so then you're like, Oh my gosh, like this is a real war movie, You know what I mean? Like it's not horribly violent, but it seems it seems extreme by what we have come to understand APG 13 movie to be. And perhaps in no way more than in the sexual way. You could just do a whole lot more sexy stuff back in 1994 and get away with the PG13. This is only a couple years before Titanic just showed boobs for 7 minutes straight and there's a couple boobs in this movie in a in a Playboy magazine, but for the most part there's no nudity.

59:36 But I did write down the question. Is this the only film ever to get APG 13 rating and also feature a guy jizzing on someone's bathrobe? Wait what? When they're in the dorm together and she she takes off her top and then she has forest Hutcher boobs and then he ejaculates. Oh, I've never interpreted it that way. Oh, he literally says right after that I think I ruined your roommate's bathrobe. And she says that's OK, I don't like her anyway. You've never got that before. Nope. Oh, and then he goes I'm dizzy.

1:00:16 How did you interpret it? I don't know. I didn't really think about it. Wow. Yeah, man, that's why I was saying like as a kid, I had no idea what was going on in that scene, but. Apparently as an adult, as an. Adult. I'm like how? How on earth did they get away with this in APG 13 movie? Now I think you're starting to understand why this was not shown in the G household growing up. I just I guess what I'm saying is the list of PG13 movies featuring ejaculation scenes probably not very long. Yeah, I mean, by 99 we have Kevin Spacey masturbating in the shower. Yeah, but and that gets that gets an R.

1:00:58 That's a hard R, Yeah. OK. Second question much less of a hot topic. Forrest got no interest from the NFL after graduating from Alabama and being an All American. OK, so that you're, you're, you're catching on to my main critique of the, the story, like within the world of the film of Forrest Gump, they keep acting like this guy is a nobody. Like I, I, I feel like they're, they're doing it as a joke. But whenever they're talking about Forrest Gump, the man running across America, they're they literally refer to him as the farmer from Greenbow, Alabama, right.

1:01:41 And I'm like, hold on a second. This dude was an all American for four years, five years at Alabama during the Bear girls era. He received Bear Bryant. Sorry, the guy that. Goes out in the wilderness and eats. Shit bears. Bears something. He wins the Congressional Medal of Honor. He gives a speech at one of the largest peace rallies in the history of peace rallies. He like. He does a million famous things. He goes to China and beats the Chinese in ping pong like. He's the founder of the Bubba Gump Shrimp Corporation. At that point, yeah, He's not a nobody. Yes, like at this point it's like, man, this guy who has done all these things is running. Why are you running, Mr. Gump?

1:02:28 Yeah, I mean, he's like AAI, don't know what you call 100 millionaire, but he's got to have hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank. Does he call himself a a gazillionaire? A gazillionaire? Yeah, gazillionaire. Yes, Sir, we have more money than Davy Crockett. Such a great line. But yes, like I just, you know, and, and he's at his graduation, apparently no NFL interest as a returner. But an Army recruiter? An Army recruiter and the thing I love the most about that scene is that the guy goes have you given any thought to your future and he takes the thing and he doesn't like the the natural thing for a person to echo would be like my future. But he doesn't say that he goes thought like the the foreign concept here isn't the future.

1:03:17 It's thinking yes. Oh, man, I mean, he, he's good at running Bob. He he ain't so good at thinking. He must be the stupidest son of a bitch alive, but he sure is fast he. Sure is fast. All right, one more quote and then we'll get to let's make it a double. I don't know where else to fit this in to the podcast today, but I just had to say at some point, sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party. What a great line man. That should be. That should be the actual name of this movie. Black Panther Party. The whole sentence. Sorry, I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party.

1:04:04 As they're all standing there with guns. Drawn. All right, man, let's get into. Let's make it a double. We're near the end of the episodes of Things, listening to the film and Whiskey Show. Let's have another film with this one, even if it's struggling. It's the final segment of the day. Now let's make it a double. Let's Make It a double is the part of the show where we pick a movie to pair up with this one to make the perfect double feature. Brad, since you think I hate this movie, I will defer to you on this front. I'll let you go first here. I'm going to pair this with a film that came out 14 years later. It is a 2008 movie that has a similar vibe of like traversing a large historical period. And you know where you're going.

1:04:48 Yeah, having a bit of an introspective take on it, I'm going to go with The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. Oh, that's not where I thought you were going, I am 99% sure. Where do you think I was going? I thought you were going to say Slumdog Millionaire. I was thinking about No Country for Gary Oldman, but. I'm pretty positive that Benjamin Button was written by the same guy that wrote Forrest Gump, which is probably why it feels so. Similar. Yeah. There you go. Yep. Yeah. Good movie. Oh yeah, Very good movie. I remember walking out of it in the theaters. Like that was one of those weird movies that my dad and I were like, yeah, you want to go watch a movie? And like, we picked while we were at the theatre and I was like, I don't know, Benjamin Button sounds curious. Let's go watch it.

1:05:35 And I remember as like a 17 year old walking out of the theater and being like, man, that was really nihilistic. Oh man, I don't know if I enjoyed that. This was prior to before you knew anything about David Fincher. And now it's like, Oh yeah, it's a Fincher movie, of course. Yeah, exactly, Brad, for my Let's Make it a double. I think I'm going to throw back to a few seasons ago, we had the author, Noah Gettel on the podcast to talk about his book Baseball the Movie. And Noah and I talked a little bit about the movie Field of Dreams and how Field of Dreams is remembered as this movie about baseball. I think much like Forrest Gump is remembered as a movie about America, but it's also like it's a movie that's very obviously made by the baby boomer generation that deals with, you know, their own political progressiveness and like their their ability to go out and protest and like fight the power, but also their desire to cling to all the values they had in the 50s, like baseball, like whatever it would be in Forrest Gump.

1:06:39 And I don't know that either of these movies it like it's completely successful in holding both of those things together. But they so remind me of each other. They're like, they're just these big weird movies that like, if you said something on paper, like if if you go into a pitch meeting and bring either Field of Dreams or Forrest Gump into the pitch meeting, you're like, I'm sorry, what is this movie about? But yeah, but they're just American classics now. And I think that you could do a lot worse than Field of Dreams here. Yeah, I mean, I mean, Field of Dreams is like the ubiquitous, if you ask any commoner what's your favorite baseball movie, It's like, I don't know, Field of Dreams. I I saw like half of it once in an afternoon.

1:07:22 You know the peasants. Oh man. OK, so have you seen Field of Dreams? I have. I think I saw it when I was in like 7th or 8th grade and I literally have no memory of that movie. Whatever you might remember about that movie, if you revisit it, I promise you, you'll be like, I don't remember this, I don't remember this. What's this movie about? Where's the baseball? The baseball doesn't show up until like the last five minutes of the movie. It's kind of like aliens and signs, yes, it's like, it's like, yeah, they just show up for the last 5 minutes. All right, man, let's give this movie some final scores. I'll get mine out of the way here. I think this is a good movie.

1:08:09 It's a very enjoyable movie. I don't think it goes very deep. I think at its best, it's like an 8 1/2. I think at its worst it's like a six. So I'm going to fall kind of right in the middle here. I think this is a somewhere between A7 and a 7 1/2 film for me. I'm going to give it a 7 out of 10, Brad. Come on, Bob. Good movie. Have a soul. Good movie. I think that this is a nine out of 10 movie, Bob, like I I think that your qualifier of it was that this movie is like good but shallow. I think this movie is good and the depth of it is what draws me up to A9 like overall, for me, it's like an eight 8 1/2 out of 10. But the emotional depth that you find in the character of Forrest Gump, in the relationships and Jenny, like, I think that it speaks to the core of human desire in a really powerful way. And I, I, yeah, I, I think that this movie is way deeper than people give it credit for.

1:09:11 All right, so it's a 7 for me. It's a nine from Brad, taking us to a very easy to average 8 out of 10. But I'd like to know what you think, which one of us is wrong? Because it's got to be one of us, folks. Is it me or is it Brad? You can tell us on any of our social medias, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tiktok, YouTube at Film Whiskey. Or if you want to join the conversation, we are live on our Discord talking to you all fans of the Film and Whiskey podcast every single day. So if you'd like to join the conversation, you can find a link to our Discord at the end of every single one of our show notes. Next week we are going to be wrapping up our Season 10 revisit with a movie that never ceases to make me feel like it's freaking perfect, Alfred Hitchcock's Rear Window. So join us next week for some Hitchcock, but until then, I'm Bob Book.

1:10:02 I'm Brad Gee. And we'll see you next time.