Die Hard / High West Yippee Ki Yay

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In 1988 director, John mctiernan
and star Bruce Willis, gave the

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world, an explosive entry into
the world of Christmas Cinema in

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2020.
I run out of clever things to

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say because this pairing speaks
for itself.

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The film is Die Hard.
The whiskey is high West

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yippee-ki-yay and we review them
both.

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This is the film and whiskey
podcast.

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Welcome to the film and whiskey
podcast, where each week, we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and
this week we are looking at the

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Masterpiece of 1980s action
Cinema die hard.

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You know, my name is William.
Just another American who saw

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too many movies as a child,
another orphan of a bankrupt

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culture.
This is John Wayne Rambo Marshal

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Dillon was always kind of
partial to Roy Rogers and

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actually really like the
sequence shirts.

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Do you really think you have a
chance against us?

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Mr. Cowboy Yippee-ki-yay mother.
So we are getting into the

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Christmas season for real now.
Brad, it's, it's 10 date.

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We're ten days away from
Christmas Eve and we figured why

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not just kind of split the
difference.

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Because this is one of those
movies that the debate comes up

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every year is DieHard, a
Christmas movie, I think it.

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Absolutely is a Christmas movie.
But just to appease those people

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who would you no balk at us?
Putting this as our Christmas

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film, we put it one week before
our Christmas film.

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So we're still in the Christmas
Vibe still in the Christmas

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season.
Then and I think it's a perfect

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time to talk about Die Hard,
Bob.

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All I have to say for the haters
out, there is Christmas is a

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holiday about the arrival of
Jesus Christ on Earth.

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And Jesus Christ was all about
the reconciliation of families.

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And if DieHard isn't all about
the reconciliation of families,

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I don't know how much more
Christmas-themed you can get.

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You know, it's really funny.
I just saw a meme online the

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other day.
Say Brad and it said that

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diehards, not a Christmas movie.
It's a movie about people who

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are trapped in a hopeless
situation and are awaiting a

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savior to come and rescue them.
It's clearly an advent movie.

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Hey, you know, if you go if
that's the case then.

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Hey it's perfect timing to be
talking about this movie, but

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whatever your affiliation with
this movie and the Christmas

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holiday is honestly brat.
It's always a good time to talk

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about Die Hard.
Bob.

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I'm not going to lie.
I had been down on the You need

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a tease for such a long time.
In this podcast, like movie

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after movie, after movie from
the 80s, just was a huge

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disappointment, and let down.
And here we are with die hard.

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You know, we're kind of on a run
here.

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I really enjoyed big for our
hanksgiving bonus episode and

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here we are with die hard and
I'm just going to spoil it.

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I love this movie Bob.
Yeah, I mean it's really hard

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not to love this movie Brad and
I think before we get into

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talking about the movie itself
before we get into Brad explains

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any Of that.
I do think it's worth talking

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about the sort of 1980s of it
all because the 80s were a

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decade for some crazy action
films there.

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You know, there's there's a few
Studios out there that were

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really famous for making like
these low-budget, Ultra violent

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action movies in the 1980s and I
feel like before die-hard comes

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out, you had started to see the
genre, get a little bit tired.

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Like we were on our I think our
third Rambo movie at that point.

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It was it mean it's literally
just You know, you have an

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Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, or
you have a Sylvester Stallone

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movie where they're all just
shooting up nameless armies of

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people.
It's incredibly violent stuff

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blowing up and the genre really
needed something to inject it

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with new life and I don't think
it can be underestimated.

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What die-hard did for the action
genre, especially because, you

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know, it took the career of this
guy, Bruce Willis, who was

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semi-famous, he was kind of in
the same place that Tom Hanks

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was with, Big.
In some ways, he was coming off

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of an incredibly successful TV
show, but, you know, he wasn't a

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an A-list movie star yet.
And they put this guy in this

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movie, who's in some ways, a
badass in this movie, but he's a

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badass in a different way than
in Arnold Schwarzenegger Arnold.

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Was a badass to people, because
he was like this Unstoppable

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machine.
He was built different than

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anyone else on Earth could be
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Bruce Willis is not a very tall
man.

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And, you know, he has somewhat
toned muscles in this movie,

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but, He's an attainable kind of
figure, and to put your sort of

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Average Joe, Copp in a scenario
like this.

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I think it really brought the
action genre back down to earth

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a little bit, and it did give
the whole genre, new life, and I

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don't think we can, we can
underestimate the impact of

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that.
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Bruce Willis in this movie, I
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effective, is kind of what we
talked about in our Sixth Sense.

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Episode in that Bruce Willis,
He's always kind of gives off

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this tired.
World-weary vibe that doesn't

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always work in every movie, but
it literally just hits a home

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run in Die Hard.
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And and I don't know if I would
go so far as to call it like a

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world weariness.
It's almost like a really

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smarmy.
It's a smartass thing, right?

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Like he, that's how he gets
under the skin of the terrorists

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in this movie is he just
continually does smartass things

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to them.
And, and I think that also is

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different than the sort of
one-liners you get in an Arnold

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Schwarzenegger movie where he
says a one-liner before he kills

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you, where is in this movie.
It's it's Bruce Willis, who's

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just toying with these guys who
are incredibly dangerous and

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that sort of Comedy, that little
bit of levity, you get with this

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movie.
I think does wonders.

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And that's to be honest Brad.
That's why this is one of my

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favorite action, movies of all
time.

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Well, it's a bit, it's a big
statement to say this is one of

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your favorite action, movies of
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What would be like something you
would point to Bob whether it's

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a performance of the direction
or the sound editing?

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Like where, where does this
movie shine?

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So brightly that it just blasted
into that upper echelon for you.

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You know, this isn't something
that I don't, I don't know if

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you can really put it on one
person as much as it's everyone

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kind of working together to make
it the way it is.

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But Brad, this movie is just so
tight and it moves at such a

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great clip.
Where I mean, there's moments

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where I wish it would slow down
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But, for the most part, every
time the audience needs a

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breather, it gets one and it
doesn't, it doesn't linger too

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long before it gets back to the
action.

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They always know when to lighten
up a scene with a funny line of

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dialogue.
I think the action is inventive.

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It's not like, it's really easy
to follow.

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It's not incoherent.
So you know, in a large part I

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think it really does fall on the
shoulders of John mctiernan for

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his really Crystal Clear
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But I think the writing and the
editing are just a notch above

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what you see in most action
movies as well, that they it's

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very clear that they had a sense
of purpose about how this movie

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was supposed to move, how it was
supposed to work, and it just

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does like everything about this
movie clicks and it works

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perfectly.
There's not a single moment in

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this film, where you're asking
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Oh, man, what like, when are we
going to get to the next part

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because you're so utterly
engrossed with everything that

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happens.
And honestly were so engrossed

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with this film, Bob.
I think we've forgotten to do

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America's favorite segments.
Yeah, that segment is called

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Brad explains swear Brad breaks
down the plot of the movie that

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he has just seen for the first
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Brad.
It sounds like this was not your

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first time seeing this movie,
would that be correct?

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Oh yeah, this is probably.
This might have been getting me

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into the double digits.
Oh, great.

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So it is such a simplistic plot.
I don't know if we need to hit

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every single bead of what
happens.

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Can you give us just a Really
condensed, you know, summary of

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what happens in the movie, Die
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Yeah.
So Bruce Willis is a New York

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cop and he's heading off to Los
Angeles to meet up with his

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estranged wife, who moved out
there with their kids and

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seemingly trying to mend fences.
He learns that an incredibly

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important lesson on the airplane
that you should take your shoes

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off and and curl your toes
together, whenever you get off

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the plane and that that's like
one of the Most important things

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you need to know for your entire
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I cannot stress the importance
of knowing that you should curl

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your toes on the carpet and
what's really, really like

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what's the reasoning to, did you
say it relieved like motion

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sickness, or what was it, that
it was supposed to like take the

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edge off, I think it's just like
the tension of flying and like

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all the the, like, I don't know.
You know that like I'm, we that

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you get with flying where you're
just like, oh my God, like I

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just want to be done with.
This is yeah, that's what it

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does.
Okay.

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All right Bob surprised I'm
surprised you haven't tried this

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before.
I don't like flying man so so he

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gets to LA and a limo picks him
up from his wife's incredibly

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successful corporation that she
took this job for which moved

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her out to LA and this limo
takes him out to the nakatomi

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plaza, this massive skyscraper
and the driver drops him off and

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tells him.
That he'll wait here for a

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little while for him if he needs
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So he goes up.
He sees his wife, there's people

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doing coke.
It's a wild and crazy.

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It's the 80s.
Yeah, it's the 80s.

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Let's go.
And he meets some of the people

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and he gets into a fight with
Holly and so what would behold?

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He takes his shoes off and he
knocks his toes on the carpet

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and then like all hell breaks
loose.

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And these crazy German and Dutch
guys take over the building

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Young and they're like trying to
blow a hole open in the safe, to

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take all these bonds.
They're supposed to make like

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millions and millions of
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I will say Bob, I was actually
impressed.

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I feel like I watch a lot of
these older movies and they're

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like we're gonna rob you for
50,000 dollars, right?

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Well, like that like though this
was like six hundred million

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dollars, that's a lot of money,
even back in 1988.

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So anyways, the rest of the
movie is Bruce.

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Just Bruce and kicking ass and
taking names and he fights the

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main antagonist, Hans Gruber
played by Alan Rickman in a

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memorable performance.
There's lots of great

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one-liners, he cuts his feet up,
he's dragging himself all over

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over the radio.
He connects with Reginald,

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veljohnson who is a local police
officer who weirdly can't shoot

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his gun anymore, but don't worry
at the end of the movie.

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He can, he just kicks a lot of,
but But and Holly his wife is

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like in love with him for
killing a bunch of bad guys and

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everybody's happy in the end.
Oh, and then the principal from

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The Breakfast Club is in this.
And guess what?

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He's a big old jerk.
All right, so so that's the

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thing I want to go in on off
Brad, explain.

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It's because the funny thing is,
you know, we just did the

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episode on big a few weeks ago,
where John heard was in that

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movie, playing the weaselly
prick.

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And then, in this movie, Paul
Gleason, Then shows up and he's

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playing the weaselly prick.
And I just wonder how much those

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two guys competed for these
roles in the late 1980s because

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it was just back and forth
between these two.

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I feel like he saw John heard
leaving the audition and was

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just like, yeah, gone.
It's not again.

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Heard so Brad.
You know, where do you want to

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go from here?
I think we should talk about

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Bruce Willis's performance
because 30 plus years on the

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world has Bruce, Willis fatigue
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And Bruce, Willis has a very not
great reputation as far as

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working with people.
Now he's known for being

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difficult.
And I think more than that, he's

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known for being stubborn.
Like he just continues to try to

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do these action movies.
Now, we're up front, he says, I

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want, you know, 12 million
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And so these movies that he's
making now are basically like

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direct-to-video movies where the
whole budget went towards paying

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Bruce Willis, but he doesn't
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And I think sometimes it's hard
for us to remember that once in

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a while when he cares, he can be
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he became Bruce Willis A-list
actor, and he's really giving

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his all here.
And you know this is like the

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original thing that he copies
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original.
It's still a glorious thing to

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watch and I don't think he's
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brat.
No he really hasn't.

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I think Sixth Sense is a
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It's just such a different movie
from the rest of his film.

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Yeah, he's playing against type
in that one, for sure.

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Right.
Like, so, I'd put that movie up

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there as far as some of his
greatest performances.

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But as far as Peak Bruce, Willis
being Bruce Willis, you cannot

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beat die hard.
I mean he's just romping around

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this set chewing up scenery.
He's yelling at the cops as they

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turn around.
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He just is at the top of his
game and like you said, Bob this

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is there's a reason this movie
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star.
Uh-huh, absolutely.

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And then, on the other side of
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making his screen debut as Hans
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I have to say one of the best
debut performances of all time.

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I don't think it's an
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say that it's not just because
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rickman's career.
Now in retrospect and thinking

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about how great he was, he truly
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villain.
And I don't think that people

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give enough credit to that
sometimes how many James Bond

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movies if we had?
Now, I think Bond 25 is coming

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out next year, and there's maybe
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have been truly memorable James
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When you get a part like this,
it's really difficult to make an

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imprint on people and a kind of
Ding Legacy as the big bad in a

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movie like this and he knocks it
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Cardiac, I'm really not
interested in your computer.

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But I need the code key because
I am interested in the 640

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million dollars in the go.
Shovel bearer, bonds that you

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have locked in your fault and
the computer controls the Vault.

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I'm glad you brought up the Bond
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there's just so many of them
that it's hard to like pinpoint

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like out, who was a great
villain in those films but what

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it illustrates is that A lot of
different action movies when you

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have the focus on the hero all
the time, on your James Bond or

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John McClane, or your Ethan
Hunt, it can be easy to lose

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track of the bad guys.
And yet, I think what makes for

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the best of any of those films
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bad guy, you know, Philip
Seymour, Hoffman and Mission

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Impossible. 3 is utterly,
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And it makes it probably my
favorite of the Mission

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Impossible.
Movie, sure.

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So when you have Rickman in this
movie with a, like you said, Bob

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a debut performance, I mean, you
can tell that the dude has acted

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for a long time, but as Hans
Gruber, he just brings so much,

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like Panache to the table.
You know what I mean?

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He's just got some hutzpah and
you almost find yourself rooting

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for him at certain times in the
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One of the things that I love
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too.
Is that a?

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He's not a Like mustache
twirling villain.

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He's not like the old-school
Bond villains who are like

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really over-the-top and
conniving and things like that.

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You know, he just seems like a
guy who's been doing this for a

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long time who is kind of minorly
inconvenience by John McClane's

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presence.
You know, at least until

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everyone starts dying and then
it becomes more of an

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inconvenience for him.
But the way that the thing that

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I love about it is that he plays
it and I'm going to go back to a

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phrase that you used earlier
Brad.

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Kind of world-weary, like, this
is just another day at the

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office.
Let's just do the stuff we're

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here to do.
He plays it like a professional

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and not like a villain.
That's like scheming to take

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over the world.
You know what I mean?

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It's very grounded and I think
that really helped balance out

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the sort of smarr, meanness that
you get from Bruce Willis, they

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really play off each other.
Well, yeah.

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And that's, I think, that's the
key.

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Bob is having a good villain and
hero combination.

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That when you find the right,
two actors or actresses to play

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against each other in these
roles, that's what ignites the

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conflict in the movie.
And that's what gets people to

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come back to movies over and
over and over again.

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And I think that this is also a
good place for us to kind of

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praise the script and the way
that they developed these

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characters because I don't think
anybody would ever argue that.

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John McClane is the smartest guy
on Earth, you know what I mean?

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Like, he's, he's very Clearly
presented as a wiseass New York

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cop, right?
And he just kind of use his

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street smarts and and trickery
to get the better of some of

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these terrorists.
But the thing that I love about

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it though is Rickman is always
the guy who's presented as the

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smarter guy like on paper.
He should have he should have

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been able to pull off this
Heist.

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He did everything correct and he
just happens to have this Thorn

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In the Flesh.
This guy that's constantly

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nagging.
Them until John McClane somehow

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wins and I love that.
It's not.

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It's like the anti James Bond.
It's the anti Batman where

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Batman is presented as smarter
than everybody else and he

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outwits everyone.
I don't think that's really what

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McClain does here.
He just kind of stays alive and

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and weasels his way around until
everyone else is dead.

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And that's the end of the movie
and I think it's such a great

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touch to have the ordinary guy.
Doing ordinary things and

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somehow still coming out on top
at the end of the movie and they

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do it in a way that feels
realistic, right?

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I mean, he really in the end
just annoys the heck.

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Yeah, I did the terrorists until
they come to find him and then

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he kills them.
All right?

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And that's, that's pretty much
it like like even at the end

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when Hans Gruber dies and he
falls off the building, you

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know, he's like really surprised
that this is happening to him.

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I love that last look that they
give on.

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Alan rickman's faces, he falls
to Death and watching it.

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Now I just I was thinking the
last thought in his mind was

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probably just like how in the
hell did this guy like get the

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better of me because on paper?
It never should have happened.

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And again, I think that it's
just really smart clever

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writing, you know, I don't want
to use the word subvert, but it

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really went against everything
you saw in action, movies in the

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80s where the hero was just
bigger and stronger and could

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overpower everybody else.
Yeah.

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I I think that diehards greatest
success is in its ability to

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convince you that John McClane
shouldn't win that.

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Like, every time I watch this
movie, I Am utterly convinced

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that there's absolutely no way
in heaven or hell that John

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McClane, should be able to take
down these well, organized

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well-funded.
Well, armed terrorists, and yet

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somehow, every single time I
watch the movie, He's Able.

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Do it.
Yeah.

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And the ability to draw the wool
over the audience's eyes, and a

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certain sense, and make them
just just fall in love with the

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idea of this guy overcoming all
the odds to win.

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It's just pure entertainment at
its finest.

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Well, Brad, I am so enjoying
talking about this movie, but

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I'm even more excited to get
into drinking today's whiskey.

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So, what do you say?
We try this High West yippee

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ki-yay.
Let's get to it.

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Alright, so today we are trying
High West yippee-ki-yay.

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Now Brad, I don't know if you
remember but this is actually

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the second whiskey from the high
West company that we've had on

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this podcast.
A few seasons ago.

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We tried the high West campfire.
And you know, for those of you

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who maybe haven't listened to
that episode, I'll give a little

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bit more background about the
company.

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Hi, West is known primarily for
blending sourced whiskeys.

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So I know that they They have
built this giant facility and

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that they are making some of
their own Whiskey's now, but

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like most distilleries that are
just kind of getting up on their

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feet.
When they first start, they

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started sourcing whiskey and
what they made their name on was

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being able to really expertly
blend together whiskies from

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other places.
And the, the high West

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yippee-ki-yay is really no
exception to that.

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The really cool thing about this
Brad is that they took one of

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their Blended sourced whiskies
called the high West Double Rye

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and then they took that At and
then finished it in wine

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barrels.
So the high West double Riya,

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something you can actually buy
on the Shelf.

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It's I mean, it's a widely
available product that blood

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contains three different kinds
of Rye, one with a 95%, rhyme

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Ash, Bill one with an 80% ride,
Mash Bill and one with a 53%

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rhyme Ash bill.
It's a really cool blend, but

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they took this and they they
finished it in vermouth barrels

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and in Sera, barrels.
And so it's like compounding the

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amount of things that they can
possibly.

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We be blending together.
I am super excited to try this.

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Brad.
I don't know if we've ever had a

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wine finished rye whiskey
before.

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Yeah, this is definitely a first
for the podcast and as I get

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into nosing it, Bob I am just
blown away.

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This whiskey has depth, it has
some nice sweet notes on it.

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A little bit of caramel, little
bit of vanilla but the

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overarching smell that I am
getting is almost like a deep

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dry red.
Like Red wine, almost like a

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plum little bit of fruitiness.
It's a beautiful Whiskey.

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On the note, I think Plum is a
really good note bread.

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It has some dark stone fruit to
it.

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The Sarah's really coming
through for me and it really

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plays well with the Rye.
Like I can't tell it first.

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Oh, is that like, is it tipping
into the vermouth side of

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things?
Because you get that little bit

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of a spice and some kind of
saline notes that might be the

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vermouth but then you also it
goes right back to that classic

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dark, red wine, smell.
All These things are marrying

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together, really, really well.
It's an incredibly complex nose

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and one that I don't want to
stop smelling like I'm going

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back for more when I should be
drinking it.

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So I think that's a really good
sign Brad.

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I think I'm going to give this a
nine out of ten on the nose.

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Yeah.
Bob everything on this nose,

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gets me excited to dive into
this whiskey.

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I'm going to give it a 9 out of
10 as well.

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All right, Brad.
Well, let's let's just Dive

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Right In.
I want to see what this thing

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tastes like.
So let's do it.

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Hmm.
All right, so here's the thing

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like the the only wine finished
Whiskey's we've had, you know,

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we've had quite a few share, Eid
scotches obviously.

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But in terms of dark, red wine
finishes, they've all been

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bourbons and so this is the
first time that we haven't

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really had the wine barrel
flavor, infused into that

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bourbon sweetness.
It's that instead, it's that

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almost kind of sour Rye flavor.
So you got the Spice of the

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right here, but also that that
more sour taste.

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And so, I don't think it's bad
at all.

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Brad is just something that
we've never had before.

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And so it's a little harder to
evaluate a finish try because we

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have nothing to compare it to.
Yeah, I'm struggling a little

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bit on the flavor here.
I feel like I don't know about

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do it.
Tastes almost just a little bit

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watery to you.
Hmm, no I think that the mouth

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feels a little bit thin.
Oh, I got this really

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interesting note, just now, as I
was talking because I just

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finished swallowing.
And as I was breathing out, I

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almost got like the, like, grape
candy flavor on the way out, on

445
00:25:48,208 --> 00:25:50,600
the back of my tongue.
I like this a lot.

446
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,500
Brad.
I think you should give it a

447
00:25:51,508 --> 00:25:55,300
second and third sip, before we
maybe give a score because I

448
00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:58,400
found that my second and third
sip have been much, much better.

449
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,800
It has a ton of red wine
characteristics.

450
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,500
It's got a nice little chest
burn on the way down but overall

451
00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:09,800
a pretty easy sipper and it is
only 92 proof.

452
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:12,600
I think it It's a little bit
hotter than a 92 proof, I would

453
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,900
probably have put this somewhere
closer to a 100 proof.

454
00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:19,500
If I was just tasting this blind
and I think it packs a nice

455
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:22,200
punch but it delivers on the
flavor as well.

456
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,300
I wasn't sure where to go at
first.

457
00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:26,200
I think I'm actually going to
give this an 8 out of 10 on the

458
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,300
flavor bread.
Yeah, I'm kind of, in a similar

459
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:30,700
spot.
I think it has some nice flavors

460
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:32,400
going on.
Like you said, it's got a little

461
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,100
bit of that fruitiness, that I
think you're getting from the

462
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,900
wine barrels.
That's really, really, really

463
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:40,400
good.
I'm a little bit softer on it

464
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,900
than You are.
I'm gonna give it a seven and a

465
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:44,700
half out of ten on the flavor.
All right, so that takes us to

466
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:46,600
finish.
Like I said, this does not have

467
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,700
a super long-lasting finish,
what lingers in the mouth is

468
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:53,900
those great, dark grape flavors,
which are almost closer in, you

469
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,800
know, on the finished Brad to
like a concord grape flavor then

470
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,100
than a wine grape.
And I like that.

471
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,100
I think that the alcohol is
Pleasant.

472
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,600
There's just a little bit of
warming sensation on the way

473
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,000
down.
Nothing that lingers for too

474
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,100
long.
I don't know if I would call

475
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:12,200
this a great finish.
Certainly doesn't detract from

476
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,500
anything else.
So I'll give it a seven on the

477
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:16,800
Finish.
Yeah, Bob, I'm literally in the

478
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,200
same spot.
I think it's a solid finish.

479
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,100
The burn is really, really nice.
It's not overly powerful, but

480
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:27,100
like you said, it, it hits you
in just in all the right ways.

481
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,800
And I think that in the end,
this is just a really solid

482
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,300
whiskey.
It's not blowing me away in any

483
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:36,400
one department.
So, I think for finish, I'm

484
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,900
going to give it a 7 out of 10.
All right?

485
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:41,000
That takes us to overall.
Balance.

486
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,000
This is where we talk about
knows taste and finish all put

487
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,100
together, Brad?
I think, like you said, this is

488
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:48,500
just a really solid whiskey all
around.

489
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,900
There was kind of a slight
decrease for me at each

490
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,100
interval.
I gave the nose and 9, The

491
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:57,800
Taste, and ate the finish a
seven, but I mean that's still

492
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,600
balances everything out to an
eighth overall.

493
00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,900
And so I think I'm going to go
ahead and give the balance on

494
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,600
this an eight and a half out of
ten again.

495
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,500
This is the first finished Rye
that we've had on the show and

496
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:14,000
Don't really think that we're
going to have one anytime soon.

497
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,200
That's going to top this.
So I'll give it an 8 and a half

498
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,200
on the balance.
I think the balance on this

499
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,400
whiskey is just okay.
Bob, I like you said, it kind of

500
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,600
tails off after a while it was a
little bit.

501
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:27,500
I wish that there's a little bit
more to it, whether it's the

502
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:32,300
viscosity or the flavor, it just
was kind of lacking overall in a

503
00:28:32,308 --> 00:28:34,600
few certain areas.
And that's not to say, it's not

504
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,600
a great whiskey.
I have enjoyed it.

505
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,800
I think.
I'm gonna give it a seven and a

506
00:28:37,808 --> 00:28:40,400
half on the balance.
All right Brad this is worth.

507
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,100
Things are going to get
interesting because now we're

508
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:45,700
moving into our value score in
the state of Ohio.

509
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,700
This bottle is pretty pricey.
Now again, we said that what

510
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:52,000
they do to make this is they
take their Double Rye and then

511
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,700
they finish it in these
different wine barrels.

512
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:58,900
The highway is Double Rye is
only thirty nine ninety nine and

513
00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:01,500
when hi West released.
This this is a special release

514
00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:04,500
so they're not currently
continuing to produce it.

515
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:08,200
Although you can still find it
on the Shelf when they when they

516
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,500
first released it, they gave it
a name.

517
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:15,300
Sarpy of 7999, which I actually
think isn't a terrible price for

518
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:20,300
this, however, you can't really
find it for 7999 anywhere.

519
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,900
And in the state of Ohio,
they're actually selling it for

520
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:26,400
99 99.
So I guess we're going to have

521
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,300
to go with what it would cost us
as the consumer.

522
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:34,400
Brad, even though MSRP is $79,
we are not going to be able to

523
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,500
pick this whiskey up for less
than $100 in the state of Ohio.

524
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:40,100
So I don't know.
What's your?

525
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,400
What's your A gut reaction to
that figure brat.

526
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:45,500
It's about double the price.
It should be.

527
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:50,200
Like in my mind this is like
anywhere from like a 45 to 60

528
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,200
dollar bottle of whiskey and I'd
probably give it an 8 to a 9 out

529
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,300
of 10 on value.
But sitting here at 100 that

530
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:02,700
just feels pretty far over
priced and I get it.

531
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,500
It's an interesting fun whiskey.
It's got a cool name.

532
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:10,900
Cool marketing and it tastes
really good overall but Is that

533
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:12,700
Bob?
We've had better whiskeys for

534
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,000
much less money than this?
Yeah, I agree with that.

535
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,300
I do think that again, with some
of these distilleries that are

536
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:21,300
known for their blending
techniques, you do have to take

537
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:23,000
the process into account a
little bit.

538
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,800
And so, I was expecting this to
be a little bit more.

539
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:30,200
And so when I saw that SRP was
$79, I actually thought, all

540
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,800
right, that's not a terrible
value.

541
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:35,900
Considering that just the Rye by
itself is already $40.

542
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,700
I think this is definitely worth
almost double what you would get

543
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:42,600
with just a regular.
Arai, I'm interested to see that

544
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,500
Ohio has marked it up so much to
$99 and if that's the case, then

545
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:50,000
I imagine it's probably that
much everywhere in the United

546
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,200
States.
And so you're right Brad at the

547
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,900
price.
You're actually picking it up

548
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:56,200
at.
I think it's just way too high.

549
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,700
I'm only going to give it a five
and a half on the value.

550
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,600
Yeah, I'm right there with you
but I'll give it a 5 out of 10

551
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,500
on value.
It's a solid whiskey all around.

552
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:06,800
Like when you add up, just our
regular scores.

553
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,000
I'm sitting out of 31 out of 40
like like this is you know,

554
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,500
three out of four.
Stars, really good whiskey.

555
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:16,100
But when you add in that price
range, whoo, edges.

556
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,000
It takes a hit for me in my
mind.

557
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:20,000
All right, Brad.
So that's bringing me out to a

558
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800
38 out of 50.
What are, what's a bringing you

559
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,600
to?
I'm right next to you 36 out of

560
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,000
50.
All right, so that's going to

561
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,200
take our average to a 37 out of
50 or 74 out of 100.

562
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:35,000
I actually think that if you had
asked me to just put a figure on

563
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,500
this, without going through all
this analysis, I would have

564
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:42,200
thought this would score higher
than a For but that value score

565
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,800
really did take this down a peg
in both of our estimations

566
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:49,200
overall though, I would still
highly recommend this whiskey.

567
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,900
If you can find it somewhere,
just to give it a try.

568
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:55,700
I've really enjoyed the
experience of trying a finish

569
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,200
try.
Yeah, it's really fascinating to

570
00:31:58,208 --> 00:32:00,300
me.
I feel like this season.

571
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,100
If I had to call season 3,
anything, I feel like it's been

572
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:07,100
a season of Rye, because we've
had so many different just

573
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:10,000
really good rise, whether
they're young, a little more

574
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400
mature.
Whether they're finished and

575
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,600
I've just been impressed with
literally almost all of them.

576
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,700
Yeah.
So overall yippee-ki-yay,

577
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000
they're knocking it out of the
park.

578
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:22,400
All right Brad.
So what do you say?

579
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,900
We get back into talking about
the movie Die Hard.

580
00:32:25,100 --> 00:33:04,500
Let's get to it.
Alright so that was high West

581
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,900
yippee-ki-yay.
We are getting back into talking

582
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:09,900
about die, hard and Brad.
I feel like we have both been

583
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:12,600
just effusive in our praise for
this movie.

584
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,400
So maybe it's time for us to
just kind of pick a few knits,

585
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,900
because as good as this movie is
and it is a nearly perfect

586
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:26,000
example of an action movie, I'm
not entirely sure that it's

587
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,100
actually like, a Flawless film.
So, I'd like to hear, do you

588
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:34,200
have any nitpicks, that kind of
Stuck with you throughout the

589
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,200
movie and he kind of plot holes,
or do you really think that this

590
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,500
is like, as good as it gets when
it comes to action films?

591
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,700
I'm pretty close to thinking
it's as good as it gets, but I

592
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:47,900
will say, I don't know, maybe
they work, because they're so

593
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:50,100
corny.
But higher better terrorists

594
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:57,900
like like those actors are so
bad and I don't know and even

595
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,600
the what was the coked-up guy
that tries to bargain?

596
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,200
Oh yeah.
He he's like trying to act like

597
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,199
he's Joe Pesci, but he's just
not like he just he just can't

598
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,500
pull off that amount of
overacting.

599
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:16,100
So there's like there's a few
little things like that but then

600
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,500
there's a part of it where I'm
like, I don't know.

601
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:21,800
The the overacting and the
Ridiculousness of the

602
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,400
terrorists.
That's almost like a part of the

603
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,699
charm of the movie.
So I don't know if I'm actually

604
00:34:25,699 --> 00:34:28,199
like complaining about.
Yeah, I was actually okay with

605
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,100
the coked-up guy that works with
Holly like I thought he did a

606
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,699
really good.
Job of being a huge douche

607
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,000
because he kept saying like babe
come on babe.

608
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,400
I'm that I thought it was so
funny.

609
00:34:40,699 --> 00:34:43,800
Watching Alan Rickman put up
with this guy you know even for

610
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,199
like the 30 seconds before he
shoots him.

611
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,500
Oh the fake Fascination that he
shows great just impeccable.

612
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,000
Hey business is business.
You use a gun.

613
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,900
I use a fountain pen.
What's the difference?

614
00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:59,300
Let's put it in my terms.
You're here in a hostile

615
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,300
takeover.
You grab us for some green mail

616
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:03,500
but you didn't expect some
Poison pill was going to be

617
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:05,500
running around in the building.
Am I right?

618
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,600
Hans Bobby.
I'm your white knight.

619
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:15,100
However, I think you're right
about the terrorists and if I

620
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:18,100
had any flaws with the movie or
nitpicks, with the film, it's

621
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:21,100
that they try to pay off every
single thing.

622
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:25,000
And for the most part they do
and I actually think this is a

623
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,800
really well-written script like
in terms of setting things up

624
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,900
and paying them off, but I
thought that resurrecting the

625
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:36,500
guy who got choked to death with
a chain and was hanging 40 feet

626
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:40,200
above the concrete floor.
Like how the hell did he get out

627
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,400
of that?
It's not Just like, oh, that guy

628
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,100
still alive.
It's like if you was still

629
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:48,100
alive.
How could he have possibly

630
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:51,900
gotten out of that?
Predicament went and found a gun

631
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:55,700
figured out where everybody went
wandered, down to the lobby with

632
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:59,300
the gun and then gone outside
and like sprayed bullets all

633
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:01,600
over the place, and they do it
all.

634
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Just so that, you know, officer
Carl.

635
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,400
Winslow can get his mojo back
and shoot a guy, which is also

636
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,600
like Chicago with his family.
Exactly, which is also a A

637
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:17,200
really weird character beat like
setting aside how weirdly creepy

638
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,400
and relevant.
It is that he he got reassigned

639
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,400
for shooting a kid, not not
fired, just reassigned for

640
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,300
shooting a kid and the fact that
McLain is just like brushes

641
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,600
right over he's like oh yeah
it's like jobs happened shop.

642
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,800
Stuff happens to the best of us.
We've all shot.

643
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,000
Yeah we right.
But then the way that they like

644
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,000
re-establish him as you know
getting back in the swing of

645
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,700
things as well.
We have to give him some To

646
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:43,200
shoot.
He has to learn how to shoot

647
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,500
people again, if he's going to
be a cop, it's just kind of it's

648
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:50,700
a really weird message to send
at the end of the film when

649
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:54,000
we've already had more than
enough people get shot for, you

650
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,400
know, to justify the price of a
movie ticket.

651
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:59,000
And I'd like, that's the only
thing in the movie that really

652
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,100
just, it was gratuitous, it was
unnecessary.

653
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,000
Like, I think, that, that
officer, Carl Winslow had proved

654
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,800
himself plenty without having to
shoot a terrorist.

655
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:12,600
Yeah, but Bob, if He's gonna get
his mojo back.

656
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,700
Did you want to see a scene of
him, like, in the shrinks office

657
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:17,700
sitting on the couch, like
realizing?

658
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,100
You know what, I can shoot
people.

659
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:25,900
Again War having a recently Dead
Terrorist pop up, like Jesus

660
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:30,300
Christ, out of the grave and be
like blop, blop.

661
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,400
I'm a cop again, man.
All right, Brad.

662
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,500
Well, on that note, I think it's
time for us to give our final

663
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:39,800
scores on this Christmas time.
Classic.

664
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:41,400
So Brad.
Where are you sitting?

665
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Die Hard.
Ah, I'm hoping that you're going

666
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,300
to give it a 9 out of 10 because
I want to give it a 9 and a half

667
00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:52,000
out of ten.
I do think that this is like

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somewhere between a 9 and the
9.25, but I just love this movie

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Bob, like there there's not many
action films, that do a better

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00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:06,100
job of creating a world that you
can revisit over and over and

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over again.
And just, just utterly lose

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00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:14,100
yourself in the drama in the
action, in the thrill of it all.

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I just Think mctiernan does a
masterful job of entertaining

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the audience, you know, like we
talked about films being like,

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00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,700
it feels like there's this
dichotomy of well they're either

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there to entertain the audience
or challenged the audience and I

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00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,600
think if you buy into that, this
movie is the perfect example of

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how to entertain an audience.
Oh, absolutely.

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And Brad, I think it's funny
that you mentioned where your

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score range would fall because
mine was falling somewhere

681
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:42,700
between an eight and a half and
a nine.

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And I think that You know, I
probably enjoyed this movie more

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00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:50,300
than it is a great film.
If that makes sense.

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00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:54,700
Like, it really just clicks even
though, I do still have issues

685
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:57,800
with it, I think it's an
absolutely worthwhile movie to

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00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,300
watch.
And like you said, Brad it's

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00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:03,000
just it's an almost Flawless
example of what an action movie

688
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,900
could be.
I do kind of wish that they had

689
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:08,700
given the terrorists a little
bit more of a motivation.

690
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:12,400
And I kind of I was thinking
back to last time I had seen it

691
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,700
and I was thinking, oh, like I
think there's one more like

692
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:18,300
double cross or there's one more
layer where you actually find

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00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:20,000
out that they wanted something
different.

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00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,400
But no, they're just like, Hey,
we're here for the bank bonds

695
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,500
and that's what it is for the
whole movie.

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00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,400
So I do think that there could
have been a little bit more of

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00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,900
something there.
But overall, like, how can you

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00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:33,700
knock die hard?
I'm going to give this movie a 9

699
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:36,900
out of 10 and that's going to
bring our average to a nine

700
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:40,400
point, two five out of ten, but
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