Die Hard / High West Yippee Ki Yay

0:01 In 1988 director, John mctiernan and star Bruce Willis, gave the world, an explosive entry into the world of Christmas Cinema in 2020. I run out of clever things to say because this pairing speaks for itself. The film is Die Hard. The whiskey is high West yippee-ki-yay and we review them both. This is the film and whiskey podcast.

0:45 Welcome to the film and whiskey podcast, where each week, we review a classic movie and a glass of whiskey. I'm Bob book, I'm Brad G and this week we are looking at the Masterpiece of 1980s action Cinema die hard. You know, my name is William. Just another American who saw too many movies as a child, another orphan of a bankrupt culture. This is John Wayne Rambo Marshal Dillon was always kind of partial to Roy Rogers and actually really like the sequence shirts. Do you really think you have a chance against us? Mr. Cowboy Yippee-ki-yay mother. So we are getting into the Christmas season for real now. Brad, it's, it's 10 date.

1:35 We're ten days away from Christmas Eve and we figured why not just kind of split the difference. Because this is one of those movies that the debate comes up every year is DieHard, a Christmas movie, I think it. Absolutely is a Christmas movie. But just to appease those people who would you no balk at us? Putting this as our Christmas film, we put it one week before our Christmas film. So we're still in the Christmas Vibe still in the Christmas season. Then and I think it's a perfect time to talk about Die Hard, Bob. All I have to say for the haters out, there is Christmas is a holiday about the arrival of Jesus Christ on Earth. And Jesus Christ was all about the reconciliation of families.

2:17 And if DieHard isn't all about the reconciliation of families, I don't know how much more Christmas-themed you can get. You know, it's really funny. I just saw a meme online the other day. Say Brad and it said that diehards, not a Christmas movie. It's a movie about people who are trapped in a hopeless situation and are awaiting a savior to come and rescue them. It's clearly an advent movie. Hey, you know, if you go if that's the case then. Hey it's perfect timing to be talking about this movie, but whatever your affiliation with this movie and the Christmas holiday is honestly brat. It's always a good time to talk about Die Hard. Bob. I'm not going to lie. I had been down on the You need a tease for such a long time. In this podcast, like movie after movie, after movie from the 80s, just was a huge disappointment, and let down. And here we are with die hard.

3:13 You know, we're kind of on a run here. I really enjoyed big for our hanksgiving bonus episode and here we are with die hard and I'm just going to spoil it. I love this movie Bob. Yeah, I mean it's really hard not to love this movie Brad and I think before we get into talking about the movie itself before we get into Brad explains any Of that. I do think it's worth talking about the sort of 1980s of it all because the 80s were a decade for some crazy action films there. You know, there's there's a few Studios out there that were really famous for making like these low-budget, Ultra violent action movies in the 1980s and I feel like before die-hard comes out, you had started to see the genre, get a little bit tired.

3:54 Like we were on our I think our third Rambo movie at that point. It was it mean it's literally just You know, you have an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, or you have a Sylvester Stallone movie where they're all just shooting up nameless armies of people. It's incredibly violent stuff blowing up and the genre really needed something to inject it with new life and I don't think it can be underestimated. What die-hard did for the action genre, especially because, you know, it took the career of this guy, Bruce Willis, who was semi-famous, he was kind of in the same place that Tom Hanks was with, Big. In some ways, he was coming off of an incredibly successful TV show, but, you know, he wasn't a an A-list movie star yet. And they put this guy in this movie, who's in some ways, a badass in this movie, but he's a badass in a different way than in Arnold Schwarzenegger Arnold.

4:46 Was a badass to people, because he was like this Unstoppable machine. He was built different than anyone else on Earth could be built. Bruce Willis is not a very tall man. And, you know, he has somewhat toned muscles in this movie, but, He's an attainable kind of figure, and to put your sort of Average Joe, Copp in a scenario like this. I think it really brought the action genre back down to earth a little bit, and it did give the whole genre, new life, and I don't think we can, we can underestimate the impact of that. Well, and when you talk about Bruce Willis in this movie, I think, the reason he is so effective, is kind of what we talked about in our Sixth Sense.

5:28 Episode in that Bruce Willis, He's always kind of gives off this tired. World-weary vibe that doesn't always work in every movie, but it literally just hits a home run in Die Hard. Yeah. And and I don't know if I would go so far as to call it like a world weariness. It's almost like a really smarmy. It's a smartass thing, right? Like he, that's how he gets under the skin of the terrorists in this movie is he just continually does smartass things to them. And, and I think that also is different than the sort of one-liners you get in an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie where he says a one-liner before he kills you, where is in this movie. It's it's Bruce Willis, who's just toying with these guys who are incredibly dangerous and that sort of Comedy, that little bit of levity, you get with this movie. I think does wonders.

6:21 And that's to be honest Brad. That's why this is one of my favorite action, movies of all time. Well, it's a bit, it's a big statement to say this is one of your favorite action, movies of all time. What would be like something you would point to Bob whether it's a performance of the direction or the sound editing? Like where, where does this movie shine? So brightly that it just blasted into that upper echelon for you. You know, this isn't something that I don't, I don't know if you can really put it on one person as much as it's everyone kind of working together to make it the way it is. But Brad, this movie is just so tight and it moves at such a great clip. Where I mean, there's moments where I wish it would slow down and take a breath. But, for the most part, every time the audience needs a breather, it gets one and it doesn't, it doesn't linger too long before it gets back to the action.

7:09 They always know when to lighten up a scene with a funny line of dialogue. I think the action is inventive. It's not like, it's really easy to follow. It's not incoherent. So you know, in a large part I think it really does fall on the shoulders of John mctiernan for his really Crystal Clear Direction. But I think the writing and the editing are just a notch above what you see in most action movies as well, that they it's very clear that they had a sense of purpose about how this movie was supposed to move, how it was supposed to work, and it just does like everything about this movie clicks and it works perfectly. There's not a single moment in this film, where you're asking yourself. Oh, man, what like, when are we going to get to the next part because you're so utterly engrossed with everything that happens. And honestly were so engrossed with this film, Bob. I think we've forgotten to do America's favorite segments. Yeah, that segment is called Brad explains swear Brad breaks down the plot of the movie that he has just seen for the first time.

8:10 Brad. It sounds like this was not your first time seeing this movie, would that be correct? Oh yeah, this is probably. This might have been getting me into the double digits. Oh, great. So it is such a simplistic plot. I don't know if we need to hit every single bead of what happens. Can you give us just a Really condensed, you know, summary of what happens in the movie, Die Hard. Yeah. So Bruce Willis is a New York cop and he's heading off to Los Angeles to meet up with his estranged wife, who moved out there with their kids and seemingly trying to mend fences. He learns that an incredibly important lesson on the airplane that you should take your shoes off and and curl your toes together, whenever you get off the plane and that that's like one of the Most important things you need to know for your entire life.

8:59 I cannot stress the importance of knowing that you should curl your toes on the carpet and what's really, really like what's the reasoning to, did you say it relieved like motion sickness, or what was it, that it was supposed to like take the edge off, I think it's just like the tension of flying and like all the the, like, I don't know. You know that like I'm, we that you get with flying where you're just like, oh my God, like I just want to be done with. This is yeah, that's what it does. Okay. All right Bob surprised I'm surprised you haven't tried this before. I don't like flying man so so he gets to LA and a limo picks him up from his wife's incredibly successful corporation that she took this job for which moved her out to LA and this limo takes him out to the nakatomi plaza, this massive skyscraper and the driver drops him off and tells him. That he'll wait here for a little while for him if he needs a ride.

9:59 So he goes up. He sees his wife, there's people doing coke. It's a wild and crazy. It's the 80s. Yeah, it's the 80s. Let's go. And he meets some of the people and he gets into a fight with Holly and so what would behold? He takes his shoes off and he knocks his toes on the carpet and then like all hell breaks loose. And these crazy German and Dutch guys take over the building Young and they're like trying to blow a hole open in the safe, to take all these bonds. They're supposed to make like millions and millions of dollars. I will say Bob, I was actually impressed. I feel like I watch a lot of these older movies and they're like we're gonna rob you for 50,000 dollars, right?

10:45 Well, like that like though this was like six hundred million dollars, that's a lot of money, even back in 1988. So anyways, the rest of the movie is Bruce. Just Bruce and kicking ass and taking names and he fights the main antagonist, Hans Gruber played by Alan Rickman in a memorable performance. There's lots of great one-liners, he cuts his feet up, he's dragging himself all over over the radio. He connects with Reginald, veljohnson who is a local police officer who weirdly can't shoot his gun anymore, but don't worry at the end of the movie. He can, he just kicks a lot of, but But and Holly his wife is like in love with him for killing a bunch of bad guys and everybody's happy in the end. Oh, and then the principal from The Breakfast Club is in this. And guess what?

11:39 He's a big old jerk. All right, so so that's the thing I want to go in on off Brad, explain. It's because the funny thing is, you know, we just did the episode on big a few weeks ago, where John heard was in that movie, playing the weaselly prick. And then, in this movie, Paul Gleason, Then shows up and he's playing the weaselly prick. And I just wonder how much those two guys competed for these roles in the late 1980s because it was just back and forth between these two. I feel like he saw John heard leaving the audition and was just like, yeah, gone. It's not again. Heard so Brad. You know, where do you want to go from here? I think we should talk about Bruce Willis's performance because 30 plus years on the world has Bruce, Willis fatigue at this point.

12:31 And Bruce, Willis has a very not great reputation as far as working with people. Now he's known for being difficult. And I think more than that, he's known for being stubborn. Like he just continues to try to do these action movies. Now, we're up front, he says, I want, you know, 12 million dollars or whatever it is. And so these movies that he's making now are basically like direct-to-video movies where the whole budget went towards paying Bruce Willis, but he doesn't Because he's getting paid. And I think sometimes it's hard for us to remember that once in a while when he cares, he can be really good and this is before he became Bruce Willis A-list actor, and he's really giving his all here. And you know this is like the original thing that he copies for 30 years, but watching the original. It's still a glorious thing to watch and I don't think he's ever topped this performance brat. No he really hasn't.

13:26 I think Sixth Sense is a different. It's just such a different movie from the rest of his film. Yeah, he's playing against type in that one, for sure. Right. Like, so, I'd put that movie up there as far as some of his greatest performances. But as far as Peak Bruce, Willis being Bruce Willis, you cannot beat die hard. I mean he's just romping around this set chewing up scenery. He's yelling at the cops as they turn around. Because they cancel the alarm. He just is at the top of his game and like you said, Bob this is there's a reason this movie launched him to become an A-list star. Uh-huh, absolutely.

14:10 And then, on the other side of things you've got Alan Rickman making his screen debut as Hans Gruber and Brad. I have to say one of the best debut performances of all time. I don't think it's an understatement at this point to say that it's not just because we're looking back on Alan rickman's career. Now in retrospect and thinking about how great he was, he truly makes a memorable and compelling villain. And I don't think that people give enough credit to that sometimes how many James Bond movies if we had? Now, I think Bond 25 is coming out next year, and there's maybe five people that I would say have been truly memorable James Bond, villains.

14:50 When you get a part like this, it's really difficult to make an imprint on people and a kind of Ding Legacy as the big bad in a movie like this and he knocks it out of the park. Cardiac, I'm really not interested in your computer. But I need the code key because I am interested in the 640 million dollars in the go. Shovel bearer, bonds that you have locked in your fault and the computer controls the Vault. I'm glad you brought up the Bond movies because like you said, there's just so many of them that it's hard to like pinpoint like out, who was a great villain in those films but what it illustrates is that A lot of different action movies when you have the focus on the hero all the time, on your James Bond or John McClane, or your Ethan Hunt, it can be easy to lose track of the bad guys. And yet, I think what makes for the best of any of those films is when you have a spectacular bad guy, you know, Philip Seymour, Hoffman and Mission Impossible. 3 is utterly, fantastic.

16:03 And it makes it probably my favorite of the Mission Impossible. Movie, sure. So when you have Rickman in this movie with a, like you said, Bob a debut performance, I mean, you can tell that the dude has acted for a long time, but as Hans Gruber, he just brings so much, like Panache to the table. You know what I mean? He's just got some hutzpah and you almost find yourself rooting for him at certain times in the movie. One of the things that I love about his performance though, too. Is that a? He's not a Like mustache twirling villain. He's not like the old-school Bond villains who are like really over-the-top and conniving and things like that.

16:46 You know, he just seems like a guy who's been doing this for a long time who is kind of minorly inconvenience by John McClane's presence. You know, at least until everyone starts dying and then it becomes more of an inconvenience for him. But the way that the thing that I love about it is that he plays it and I'm going to go back to a phrase that you used earlier Brad. Kind of world-weary, like, this is just another day at the office. Let's just do the stuff we're here to do. He plays it like a professional and not like a villain. That's like scheming to take over the world. You know what I mean? It's very grounded and I think that really helped balance out the sort of smarr, meanness that you get from Bruce Willis, they really play off each other. Well, yeah.

17:30 And that's, I think, that's the key. Bob is having a good villain and hero combination. That when you find the right, two actors or actresses to play against each other in these roles, that's what ignites the conflict in the movie. And that's what gets people to come back to movies over and over and over again. And I think that this is also a good place for us to kind of praise the script and the way that they developed these characters because I don't think anybody would ever argue that. John McClane is the smartest guy on Earth, you know what I mean? Like, he's, he's very Clearly presented as a wiseass New York cop, right? And he just kind of use his street smarts and and trickery to get the better of some of these terrorists. But the thing that I love about it though is Rickman is always the guy who's presented as the smarter guy like on paper. He should have he should have been able to pull off this Heist.

18:29 He did everything correct and he just happens to have this Thorn In the Flesh. This guy that's constantly nagging. Them until John McClane somehow wins and I love that. It's not. It's like the anti James Bond. It's the anti Batman where Batman is presented as smarter than everybody else and he outwits everyone. I don't think that's really what McClain does here. He just kind of stays alive and and weasels his way around until everyone else is dead. And that's the end of the movie and I think it's such a great touch to have the ordinary guy. Doing ordinary things and somehow still coming out on top at the end of the movie and they do it in a way that feels realistic, right?

19:14 I mean, he really in the end just annoys the heck. Yeah, I did the terrorists until they come to find him and then he kills them. All right? And that's, that's pretty much it like like even at the end when Hans Gruber dies and he falls off the building, you know, he's like really surprised that this is happening to him. I love that last look that they give on. Alan rickman's faces, he falls to Death and watching it. Now I just I was thinking the last thought in his mind was probably just like how in the hell did this guy like get the better of me because on paper? It never should have happened. And again, I think that it's just really smart clever writing, you know, I don't want to use the word subvert, but it really went against everything you saw in action, movies in the 80s where the hero was just bigger and stronger and could overpower everybody else. Yeah.

20:06 I I think that diehards greatest success is in its ability to convince you that John McClane shouldn't win that. Like, every time I watch this movie, I Am utterly convinced that there's absolutely no way in heaven or hell that John McClane, should be able to take down these well, organized well-funded. Well, armed terrorists, and yet somehow, every single time I watch the movie, He's Able. Do it. Yeah. And the ability to draw the wool over the audience's eyes, and a certain sense, and make them just just fall in love with the idea of this guy overcoming all the odds to win.

20:52 It's just pure entertainment at its finest. Well, Brad, I am so enjoying talking about this movie, but I'm even more excited to get into drinking today's whiskey. So, what do you say? We try this High West yippee ki-yay. Let's get to it.

21:46 Alright, so today we are trying High West yippee-ki-yay. Now Brad, I don't know if you remember but this is actually the second whiskey from the high West company that we've had on this podcast. A few seasons ago. We tried the high West campfire. And you know, for those of you who maybe haven't listened to that episode, I'll give a little bit more background about the company. Hi, West is known primarily for blending sourced whiskeys. So I know that they They have built this giant facility and that they are making some of their own Whiskey's now, but like most distilleries that are just kind of getting up on their feet. When they first start, they started sourcing whiskey and what they made their name on was being able to really expertly blend together whiskies from other places. And the, the high West yippee-ki-yay is really no exception to that.

22:31 The really cool thing about this Brad is that they took one of their Blended sourced whiskies called the high West Double Rye and then they took that At and then finished it in wine barrels. So the high West double Riya, something you can actually buy on the Shelf. It's I mean, it's a widely available product that blood contains three different kinds of Rye, one with a 95%, rhyme Ash, Bill one with an 80% ride, Mash Bill and one with a 53% rhyme Ash bill. It's a really cool blend, but they took this and they they finished it in vermouth barrels and in Sera, barrels. And so it's like compounding the amount of things that they can possibly. We be blending together. I am super excited to try this.

23:14 Brad. I don't know if we've ever had a wine finished rye whiskey before. Yeah, this is definitely a first for the podcast and as I get into nosing it, Bob I am just blown away. This whiskey has depth, it has some nice sweet notes on it. A little bit of caramel, little bit of vanilla but the overarching smell that I am getting is almost like a deep dry red. Like Red wine, almost like a plum little bit of fruitiness. It's a beautiful Whiskey. On the note, I think Plum is a really good note bread. It has some dark stone fruit to it. The Sarah's really coming through for me and it really plays well with the Rye. Like I can't tell it first.

23:57 Oh, is that like, is it tipping into the vermouth side of things? Because you get that little bit of a spice and some kind of saline notes that might be the vermouth but then you also it goes right back to that classic dark, red wine, smell. All These things are marrying together, really, really well. It's an incredibly complex nose and one that I don't want to stop smelling like I'm going back for more when I should be drinking it. So I think that's a really good sign Brad. I think I'm going to give this a nine out of ten on the nose. Yeah. Bob everything on this nose, gets me excited to dive into this whiskey. I'm going to give it a 9 out of 10 as well. All right, Brad. Well, let's let's just Dive Right In. I want to see what this thing tastes like. So let's do it.

24:41 Hmm. All right, so here's the thing like the the only wine finished Whiskey's we've had, you know, we've had quite a few share, Eid scotches obviously. But in terms of dark, red wine finishes, they've all been bourbons and so this is the first time that we haven't really had the wine barrel flavor, infused into that bourbon sweetness. It's that instead, it's that almost kind of sour Rye flavor. So you got the Spice of the right here, but also that that more sour taste. And so, I don't think it's bad at all. Brad is just something that we've never had before. And so it's a little harder to evaluate a finish try because we have nothing to compare it to. Yeah, I'm struggling a little bit on the flavor here. I feel like I don't know about do it. Tastes almost just a little bit watery to you. Hmm, no I think that the mouth feels a little bit thin. Oh, I got this really interesting note, just now, as I was talking because I just finished swallowing. And as I was breathing out, I almost got like the, like, grape candy flavor on the way out, on the back of my tongue. I like this a lot.

25:50 Brad. I think you should give it a second and third sip, before we maybe give a score because I found that my second and third sip have been much, much better. It has a ton of red wine characteristics. It's got a nice little chest burn on the way down but overall a pretty easy sipper and it is only 92 proof. I think it It's a little bit hotter than a 92 proof, I would probably have put this somewhere closer to a 100 proof. If I was just tasting this blind and I think it packs a nice punch but it delivers on the flavor as well. I wasn't sure where to go at first. I think I'm actually going to give this an 8 out of 10 on the flavor bread. Yeah, I'm kind of, in a similar spot. I think it has some nice flavors going on. Like you said, it's got a little bit of that fruitiness, that I think you're getting from the wine barrels. That's really, really, really good. I'm a little bit softer on it than You are. I'm gonna give it a seven and a half out of ten on the flavor. All right, so that takes us to finish. Like I said, this does not have a super long-lasting finish, what lingers in the mouth is those great, dark grape flavors, which are almost closer in, you know, on the finished Brad to like a concord grape flavor then than a wine grape. And I like that.

27:00 I think that the alcohol is Pleasant. There's just a little bit of warming sensation on the way down. Nothing that lingers for too long. I don't know if I would call this a great finish. Certainly doesn't detract from anything else. So I'll give it a seven on the Finish. Yeah, Bob, I'm literally in the same spot. I think it's a solid finish. The burn is really, really nice. It's not overly powerful, but like you said, it, it hits you in just in all the right ways. And I think that in the end, this is just a really solid whiskey. It's not blowing me away in any one department. So, I think for finish, I'm going to give it a 7 out of 10. All right? That takes us to overall. Balance.

27:41 This is where we talk about knows taste and finish all put together, Brad? I think, like you said, this is just a really solid whiskey all around. There was kind of a slight decrease for me at each interval. I gave the nose and 9, The Taste, and ate the finish a seven, but I mean that's still balances everything out to an eighth overall. And so I think I'm going to go ahead and give the balance on this an eight and a half out of ten again. This is the first finished Rye that we've had on the show and Don't really think that we're going to have one anytime soon. That's going to top this. So I'll give it an 8 and a half on the balance. I think the balance on this whiskey is just okay. Bob, I like you said, it kind of tails off after a while it was a little bit.

28:23 I wish that there's a little bit more to it, whether it's the viscosity or the flavor, it just was kind of lacking overall in a few certain areas. And that's not to say, it's not a great whiskey. I have enjoyed it. I think. I'm gonna give it a seven and a half on the balance. All right Brad this is worth. Things are going to get interesting because now we're moving into our value score in the state of Ohio. This bottle is pretty pricey. Now again, we said that what they do to make this is they take their Double Rye and then they finish it in these different wine barrels. The highway is Double Rye is only thirty nine ninety nine and when hi West released. This this is a special release so they're not currently continuing to produce it.

29:04 Although you can still find it on the Shelf when they when they first released it, they gave it a name. Sarpy of 7999, which I actually think isn't a terrible price for this, however, you can't really find it for 7999 anywhere. And in the state of Ohio, they're actually selling it for 99 99. So I guess we're going to have to go with what it would cost us as the consumer. Brad, even though MSRP is $79, we are not going to be able to pick this whiskey up for less than $100 in the state of Ohio. So I don't know. What's your? What's your A gut reaction to that figure brat. It's about double the price. It should be.

29:45 Like in my mind this is like anywhere from like a 45 to 60 dollar bottle of whiskey and I'd probably give it an 8 to a 9 out of 10 on value. But sitting here at 100 that just feels pretty far over priced and I get it. It's an interesting fun whiskey. It's got a cool name. Cool marketing and it tastes really good overall but Is that Bob? We've had better whiskeys for much less money than this? Yeah, I agree with that. I do think that again, with some of these distilleries that are known for their blending techniques, you do have to take the process into account a little bit. And so, I was expecting this to be a little bit more.

30:26 And so when I saw that SRP was $79, I actually thought, all right, that's not a terrible value. Considering that just the Rye by itself is already $40. I think this is definitely worth almost double what you would get with just a regular. Arai, I'm interested to see that Ohio has marked it up so much to $99 and if that's the case, then I imagine it's probably that much everywhere in the United States. And so you're right Brad at the price. You're actually picking it up at. I think it's just way too high. I'm only going to give it a five and a half on the value. Yeah, I'm right there with you but I'll give it a 5 out of 10 on value. It's a solid whiskey all around. Like when you add up, just our regular scores.

31:06 I'm sitting out of 31 out of 40 like like this is you know, three out of four. Stars, really good whiskey. But when you add in that price range, whoo, edges. It takes a hit for me in my mind. All right, Brad. So that's bringing me out to a 38 out of 50. What are, what's a bringing you to? I'm right next to you 36 out of 50. All right, so that's going to take our average to a 37 out of 50 or 74 out of 100. I actually think that if you had asked me to just put a figure on this, without going through all this analysis, I would have thought this would score higher than a For but that value score really did take this down a peg in both of our estimations overall though, I would still highly recommend this whiskey.

31:49 If you can find it somewhere, just to give it a try. I've really enjoyed the experience of trying a finish try. Yeah, it's really fascinating to me. I feel like this season. If I had to call season 3, anything, I feel like it's been a season of Rye, because we've had so many different just really good rise, whether they're young, a little more mature. Whether they're finished and I've just been impressed with literally almost all of them. Yeah. So overall yippee-ki-yay, they're knocking it out of the park. All right Brad. So what do you say? We get back into talking about the movie Die Hard. Let's get to it. Alright so that was high West yippee-ki-yay. We are getting back into talking about die, hard and Brad. I feel like we have both been just effusive in our praise for this movie.

33:12 So maybe it's time for us to just kind of pick a few knits, because as good as this movie is and it is a nearly perfect example of an action movie, I'm not entirely sure that it's actually like, a Flawless film. So, I'd like to hear, do you have any nitpicks, that kind of Stuck with you throughout the movie and he kind of plot holes, or do you really think that this is like, as good as it gets when it comes to action films? I'm pretty close to thinking it's as good as it gets, but I will say, I don't know, maybe they work, because they're so corny. But higher better terrorists like like those actors are so bad and I don't know and even the what was the coked-up guy that tries to bargain?

34:01 Oh yeah. He he's like trying to act like he's Joe Pesci, but he's just not like he just he just can't pull off that amount of overacting. So there's like there's a few little things like that but then there's a part of it where I'm like, I don't know. The the overacting and the Ridiculousness of the terrorists. That's almost like a part of the charm of the movie. So I don't know if I'm actually like complaining about. Yeah, I was actually okay with the coked-up guy that works with Holly like I thought he did a really good. Job of being a huge douche because he kept saying like babe come on babe. I'm that I thought it was so funny. Watching Alan Rickman put up with this guy you know even for like the 30 seconds before he shoots him.

34:46 Oh the fake Fascination that he shows great just impeccable. Hey business is business. You use a gun. I use a fountain pen. What's the difference? Let's put it in my terms. You're here in a hostile takeover. You grab us for some green mail but you didn't expect some Poison pill was going to be running around in the building. Am I right? Hans Bobby. I'm your white knight. However, I think you're right about the terrorists and if I had any flaws with the movie or nitpicks, with the film, it's that they try to pay off every single thing. And for the most part they do and I actually think this is a really well-written script like in terms of setting things up and paying them off, but I thought that resurrecting the guy who got choked to death with a chain and was hanging 40 feet above the concrete floor. Like how the hell did he get out of that? It's not Just like, oh, that guy still alive. It's like if you was still alive. How could he have possibly gotten out of that? Predicament went and found a gun figured out where everybody went wandered, down to the lobby with the gun and then gone outside and like sprayed bullets all over the place, and they do it all.

36:01 Just so that, you know, officer Carl. Winslow can get his mojo back and shoot a guy, which is also like Chicago with his family. Exactly, which is also a A really weird character beat like setting aside how weirdly creepy and relevant. It is that he he got reassigned for shooting a kid, not not fired, just reassigned for shooting a kid and the fact that McLain is just like brushes right over he's like oh yeah it's like jobs happened shop. Stuff happens to the best of us. We've all shot. Yeah we right. But then the way that they like re-establish him as you know getting back in the swing of things as well. We have to give him some To shoot. He has to learn how to shoot people again, if he's going to be a cop, it's just kind of it's a really weird message to send at the end of the film when we've already had more than enough people get shot for, you know, to justify the price of a movie ticket.

36:56 And I'd like, that's the only thing in the movie that really just, it was gratuitous, it was unnecessary. Like, I think, that, that officer, Carl Winslow had proved himself plenty without having to shoot a terrorist. Yeah, but Bob, if He's gonna get his mojo back. Did you want to see a scene of him, like, in the shrinks office sitting on the couch, like realizing? You know what, I can shoot people. Again War having a recently Dead Terrorist pop up, like Jesus Christ, out of the grave and be like blop, blop. I'm a cop again, man. All right, Brad. Well, on that note, I think it's time for us to give our final scores on this Christmas time. Classic.

37:40 So Brad. Where are you sitting? Die Hard. Ah, I'm hoping that you're going to give it a 9 out of 10 because I want to give it a 9 and a half out of ten. I do think that this is like somewhere between a 9 and the 9.25, but I just love this movie Bob, like there there's not many action films, that do a better job of creating a world that you can revisit over and over and over again. And just, just utterly lose yourself in the drama in the action, in the thrill of it all. I just Think mctiernan does a masterful job of entertaining the audience, you know, like we talked about films being like, it feels like there's this dichotomy of well they're either there to entertain the audience or challenged the audience and I think if you buy into that, this movie is the perfect example of how to entertain an audience. Oh, absolutely.

38:35 And Brad, I think it's funny that you mentioned where your score range would fall because mine was falling somewhere between an eight and a half and a nine. And I think that You know, I probably enjoyed this movie more than it is a great film. If that makes sense. Like, it really just clicks even though, I do still have issues with it, I think it's an absolutely worthwhile movie to watch. And like you said, Brad it's just it's an almost Flawless example of what an action movie could be. I do kind of wish that they had given the terrorists a little bit more of a motivation. And I kind of I was thinking back to last time I had seen it and I was thinking, oh, like I think there's one more like double cross or there's one more layer where you actually find out that they wanted something different.

39:20 But no, they're just like, Hey, we're here for the bank bonds and that's what it is for the whole movie. So I do think that there could have been a little bit more of something there. But overall, like, how can you knock die hard? I'm going to give this movie a 9 out of 10 and that's going to bring our average to a nine point, two five out of ten, but we want to know what you think. So, please get on social media. You can find us on Facebook, Twitter, or Or Instagram at film whiskey, or you can leave us a voicemail. Let your voice be heard on the film. And whiskey podcast. Our phone number is two one six, eight hundred 5923 once again. That number is two one six, eight hundred 5923 or leave us a voicemail right on our website, which is anchored on FM / film whiskey next week for Christmas. We will be back watching my favorite Christmas movie of all time.

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