Catching Up with Jackie Zykan, Hidden Barn Whiskey

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Hey, everybody.
Welcome into the film and

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whiskey podcast.
I'm Bob book, I'm Reggie, and

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we're coming at you with another
special bonus.

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Episode.
Bonus episode Brad today, on the

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program.
We have one of my favorite

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people in the whole world of
whiskey.

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And dude, I'm just going to come
out and say it like this, we're

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going to get real today.
So I'm just going to come out

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and say like this.
We've interviewed a lot of

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people on this show and some of
them have very minimal

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personality.
Charisma.

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Local.
That's a good way to say it.

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It's R, it's really great when
somebody makes your job easy and

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Jackie's.
I can is one of those people and

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we've got Jackie hanging out on
the other end of the line here.

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Just say hello, say hello to the
people.

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Jackie.
Hello.

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Come on laughing in the
background at all.

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We've got Jackie's, I can back
for the third time on the

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podcast now, representing hidden
Barn, whiskey.

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Jackie, I'm still getting used
to saying it, but it is.

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To have you back in any
capacity?

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Thanks for being here today.
Oh, thank you for having me.

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You guys have such a unique
platform and it's so it's just

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fun, right?
It's not like old getting notes

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of almonds.
Like, no.

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Like that's not part of it.
It's just, it's really

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refreshing when for years and
years and years and years and

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years.
You say the same thing over and

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over and over again and then you
guys are like.

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So let's talk about, I don't
know, it's just it's great and

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we have a good vibe.
Yeah.

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There's a soft hint of
pretentiousness on this one.

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Exactly sure.
Alright, so let's go ahead and

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just kind of get the elephant
out of the room.

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Here, you are representing a new
company and you've left old

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Forester, you've left your post
at Old Forester, where you had

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been for a number of years.
So catch us up a little bit.

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What how's life going
representing a new brand now?

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So it's completely different
because I'm not necessarily just

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representing hidden bar and I am
a owner of hidden garden, so I,

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it's funny like it just In This
Moment it's making me because

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I'm like, thinking through, like
oh I just said, I'll probably

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get fired for saying or yelled
at and now it's just gone to

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pawn me that like I'm not
getting fired because I would

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fire myself and that's really
strange.

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So this is it's just it's
different.

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It's like it's totally with the
freedom comes, a lot of risk and

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you know like there's the
security and the cushiness isn't

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there anymore?
But it's great.

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I have no complaints.
Well, I was gonna say that.

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So this whole new Venture with
hidden bar and like you could

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have done a million different
things with your life, right?

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Like you are immensely talented
and yet here you are you now, I

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guess I'm curious.
Did you join like an ownership?

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Were you there at the very start
like around the table drinking

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whiskey saying like, hey, we
should we should start our own

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company like wailing or were you
at with that?

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I was looking for an alternative
source of income in my life that

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I was looking for a different
job for a while wild.

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Okay.
That's just what it was.

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Sure.
I had things that like, just

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didn't just didn't align with me
anymore, and it was to the

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point.
Like, I'm a person that really

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identifies as a hard worker.
I love to put in the hours.

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I love to be busy and I love to
do things that appealed to me.

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I don't like to do things that
don't feel to me.

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Like, I don't know what persons
like.

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Oh, yeah, I hate that.
But I like, but it's, I'm like,

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no.
If I don't like it, I'm not

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gonna do it.
That sounds really selfish or

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kind of stubborn, I guess.
But I don't mean it in that way.

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I just think like I I like to
work and it's easier for me to

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do that with something I really
appreciate and enjoy.

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And it's not to say that I
didn't enjoy my experience at

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Brown Forman.
I very much did.

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But from day one, I knew I mean
it's just the most obvious thing

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that I'm not a person that
thrives in that type of

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environment.
Yeah, I've never ever.

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I literally have worked since.
Before I legally could work, I

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have never been unemployed.
It's like an insatiable thing is

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probably some like weird, like
inner child, trauma.

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I don't know what the hell but I
just I'm worried and so any

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situation where I've worked in
my life all the way from like 14

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years old, all the way up now
until I'm 37.

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Yeah.
If it was smaller independent,

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we're had more like freedom in.
It was fine.

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It was just like, I just
committed to it, and I tried to

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replicate that in this role at
BF.

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And this just the free rein
wasn't there, right?

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And so, like, it makes the
effort field that much more

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cumbersome.
I I've worked in other like

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corporate I guess it was good.
I just use quotes that you can't

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see but corporate.
Groups are her corporate

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companies that had like this
diet, like rulebook and like,

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there's just, there's a lot of
pressure and stress and, like

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white noise that comes around
from stuff like that, and I

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don't view myself as being
purposely contrarian by any

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means or rebellious.
I just view myself as being

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stubborn and someone that likes
to learn things, kind of the

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hard way.
And I don't know, I don't think

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there's a lot of room for that
when everything is so risk

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averse.
Yeah.

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And so, I needed to go, you
know, just like throw my life

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down the garbage disposal.
Bosal and see.

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What comes out.
The other end.

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That's a fantastic metaphor,
whatever.

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Let's see, I don't know.
Maybe this maybe this is all

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better as like a salsa of some
sort of grind it up and see what

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happens.
All right, so I gotta, I gotta

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push you a little bit on that
though, because you're talking

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about how you guys never been
unemployed and like as much as

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you're comfortable with, give us
a little bit of a peek behind

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the curtain because, you know,
people who are in roles as

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prominent As You Are.
When I'm opening my email and

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getting the press release that
you're leaving brown-forman and

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you're immediately pivoting to
this new thing.

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Like I have to imagine that this
was in the works for a little

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bit and that you were really
working hard behind the scenes

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to get this up and running so
like, how not at all.

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No!
Wow, yeah.

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Sorry, that's I guess I went off
on this like weird tangent about

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childhood trauma and like, weird
like insatiable things and so

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probably parents Jackie God.
Which was like, when did this

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all, like how did this come to
be wanted to start?

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I wasn't there at the table.
When this idea came to be, I was

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the fourth partner.
Add.

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It was just the three of them.
They had the entire plan worked

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out, they had all the liquid
like reserve they had

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everything, all their forecasts
and done.

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Like they had sourced a
marketing agency to weigh in for

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label design and website and all
that other stuff like.

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Wow, I just came in and blended
whiskey and was like, here's my

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name.
Give me a check.

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I don't know like it.
So here I am II downplay it but

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I've known them for a long time.
I've known 8 the longest Matt s

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that and Royce I didn't even
meet Royce until the day that

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the three of them said we would
like to offer you a part of this

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partnership because the first
day I ever met Royce, can you

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give us like a?
It didn't matter.

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It felt right?
Can you give us like a proper

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introduction to your partner's?
Like for those for those people

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in our audience who aren't
familiar with the other figures

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here totally.
So we've got to in Kentucky and

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soon Colorado.
So in Kentucky, you've got me

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and Royce melee.
Where is melee is obviously

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producing all the liquid and
product that's coming through on

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this first series out of the
nearly family Distillery and

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Sparta Kentucky.
And then the two in Colorado are

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Matt Bank Nur and Nate winegar
their part of the 5280 whiskey

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Society.
So there's whiskey societies all

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over the place now like yours,
you throw a dart blindfolded.

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You're going to hit once.
We're on a map of the u.s. like

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they're everywhere.
Nate started it with this

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intention in mind of doing
things a little bit differently.

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It was about Community, it was
about Fellowship.

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It wasn't about egos, it wasn't
about making money.

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It wasn't about flipping
bottles, there's actually like a

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very very, very / precise code
of conduct for the 5280 whiskey

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society, which is very much like
responsibility focused and just

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nothing, but feel, good vibes on
the 50 to 85, and I've done so

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many events with them.
From old Forester and that's

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kind of how we first connected
and then mate.

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And I and his wife, Claudia were
out going skiing out in

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Colorado.
This fall is when he knew about

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the project.
So like yeah last fall and say

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this whole like not this
upcoming one but I was like

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right around Thanksgiving or
something and he was like yeah

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you know we think we're going to
start our own brand and that's

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what we're thinking and I
immediately was just like, have

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you considered this like as a
friend like leaning into just

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like, well, you might want to
look out for the Maybe just very

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honest and like, this is what I
have in my experience.

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This is what I came across and
gold while.

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Like no part of me was like,
well, if you want some help,

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I'll charge you a consulting
fee, is just a friend

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conversation.
We were stuck in a snowstorm

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driving back down, Highway 70
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So it was just conversation.
And so, it wasn't until closer

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and closer and closer to when I
had decided I was going to put

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in my notice.
The reason I did it when I did

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was because those were that that
day of the year, is when all

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bonuses come out and bf, it's I
was waiting until the check.

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Hit the bank was going to get my
notice so I mean, you would do

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like, don't crazy 100%.
Yeah.

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Sounds like you'll get it.
Don't worry, it'll be fine.

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I'm like nope, I don't believe
any of it.

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I don't know what's going to
happen.

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I'm terrified.
I am preparing for worst-case

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scenario and I need that check
to hit the bank.

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So, yeah, well in the the
beautiful thing about what I'm

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hearing is, it feels like it's
getting back to kind of the

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roots of whiskey.
That like, whiskey was made by a

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bunch of people who needed
something to drink because their

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lives were kind of rough and
they did it as a community.

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And here you are, you know, a
few years after they started

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doing that.
And it's like, yeah, we're just

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going to talk about making
really great whiskey together as

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a community.
We're going to try to fight this

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ridiculous secondary Market that
has just ruined whiskey for a

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lot of people unfortunately, and
Yeah, I man, Jackie.

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I'm like 100% in.
I think this is the, this is

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just the coolest thing.
Yeah, it's been really great.

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And you know what?
So we launched in Kentucky and

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Colorado with like actual brick,
and mortar Distributors, and

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then we're using steel box.com
for access to other states for

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direct shipment.
They put the announcement on

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sealed box yesterday and then
four minutes.

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It was all sold out.
Now I bring that up for an

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important reason.
This isn't some sort of like,

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whoa, look how high and
demanded.

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It's like, let's be clear here.
Didn't sell out of 100,000

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cases, we sold out of like
twenty six packs.

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So, like, let's just keep it all
in perspective here.

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But the fact that people wanted
now we can start to sell more

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and people have been posting if
they actually do find a bottle.

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I do keep tabs on the social
internet Media stuff, you know,

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and people are posting bottles
and you know what the best part

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about it is every single person
that has posted something so

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far.
Has been like, I like it's a

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picture with a glass or they're
talking about how they tried it.

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I've had people texting me and
like, oh, I just got to this bar

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and they have it so I bought
some for my friend and myself

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and oh my God.
Now we need to buy some for the

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bartender because like it's so
good.

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It's that's exactly what it's
supposed to do.

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I have not seen a single person
flip, any of our bottles and I

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know like from like the big box
brands, I guess, like, we used

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to sit around in, like, like, oh
my God, that flipped for $1200.

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Oh, that's crazy.
Like, most people love us, know

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that An indication that anyone
likes your product.

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The indication is that they
don't give a shit how much they

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can get for it.
They're going to drink it,

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right?
Once you know, and they enjoy

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and then they want to share it
like that success.

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Success is not a flip tag price
at all and so I hope no one puts

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it.
I hope they don't hope they all

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drink it.
It's not meant to be like an

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ornament on your mantle.
It's meant to be consumed.

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All right, let's go in on the
brand a little bit.

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Like I want to talk about hidden
Barn.

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Because first of all, You know,
we read a lot of press releases.

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And like, I would say, 75% of a
press release is like marketing,

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PR bullsh, but like, I read this
press release and I'm like, if

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true comma the origin of this
Brand's name is like the coolest

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story I've ever heard.
So can you fill our listeners in

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a little bit on the naming of
the brand?

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And also like am I falling for
it or is it like an actual

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thing?
Um okay so we went through a lot

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of difference.
Ears.

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I was Anonymous at this point,
right?

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I'm like, not really fully being
involved, but the final name had

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not been decided upon just yet.
And so, like, I saw what the

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other options were, here's a
little news, flash for anybody

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out there, looking to create a
whiskey brand, or a booze brand

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of any sort.
Like just make up words, because

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everything is already been
trademarked.

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You're not going to get anything
out of it, like trust me, like

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it's just how it is going to go.
Like, you're going to try every

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different like like every
different format of every

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different day, it's taken.
Just already know it's taken.

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So it's a nightmare process.
I can't even remember like the

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laundry list of names that were
combed through to go over this

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and every single one of them
just there was always an issue

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hidden born really calls back to
this time in Kentucky, when, of

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course, Kentucky as Kentucky is
people are making whiskey

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whether it was legal or not.
And anytime you have alcohol

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production or storage For
maturation, you got ethanol in

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the air.
Now, there's naturally

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occurring.
Microflora, it's this nice

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little sock.
Fungicide like, shows up as

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little black specks on the sides
of buildings on trees on all

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kinds of things.
You'll see it at any Distillery,

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it's there.
And so of course, like if

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someone's making booze or
storing a bunch of booze, you're

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going to nowhere because there's
a bunch of, there's a bunch of

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black crap on the walls.
So what do you do?

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So you paint the walls black.
So you can't tell that those

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black spots on it but then
everyone's like, oh, that

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building could paint it black.
They must be.

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Making boost but then everybody
would do in these little

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clusters and you can see that
this is true you can see them in

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Kentucky and little cluster is a
lot of them still stand today of

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black Barns and so having a
cluster of black lines means

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that you don't necessarily know
which one should Nanny and

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they're going down in but it's
in one of them.

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But that's not the sole purpose
of the black bar in the black

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bar and also functions as a
great storage and drying house

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for tobacco and things like
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It's pulling in all that heat
and the Kentucky son.

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So, it's an interesting little
thing but now that it's out

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there like you'll notice, I
notice a more now obviously all

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over the place but it's a it's a
true thing.

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It's not just like hoopla.
So it's just kind of like funny

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that you know.
I'm not saying anyone was doing

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anything illegal to get this
brand going but you know, this

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was a group of people that were
supporting each other and

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supporting this little adventure
and whiskey making without

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Unknown because well, yeah, I
mean, like not not surprisingly,

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you know, given our podcast
title, I'm always reading

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stories and being like, Oh,
that's a fantastic movie right

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there.
Like that should be a movie.

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And I hear this story about
communities coming together to

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just trick the old-timey police.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, this

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is, this is a movie right here.
Like, it's an instant classic.

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Oh, yeah.
Like you put, you put Paul

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Newman and Robert Redford in
that bad boy.

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And you've got, oh my God, an
all-time classic.

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You want a totally different
direction because like When I

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picture how this would like
really play out on a screen.

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It's like a Three Stooges
episode.

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Like, it's definitely not.
It's all like weird like

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fast-forwarded and like
scrambling black and white so

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that I don't know, you know
what, let's pivot into talking

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about movies for a little bit, I
guess.

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Get you out of the, you know,
brand ambassador hat here and

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put you into the movie, their
seat.

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What have you been watching
lately?

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Have you gone to the movies
lately?

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I haven't gone to the actual
movies lately, but I did spend a

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significant amount of time
flying to Australia recently

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which provided me a opportunity
to watch.

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Maybe he's just like maybe one
movie, you know, or like seven

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right, Louisville Zoo Atlanta or
my husband and I went to Atlanta

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to Minneapolis to cans.
So like yeah we had a lot of

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time.
And this was the perfect

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opportunity for me to finally
admit to him.

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I have not ever ever, seen any
of The Godfather movies.

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Oh my gosh.
I don't know, man.

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I know.
But I feel like we've talked

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about this before.
Like there are these, like,

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everybody's seen that movies.
I am not that person who's ever

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seen that, everybody's seen that
movies.

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So many of them I'm like, nope.
Just don't even know.

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Like what?
Exactly.

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I don't know.
One of my really close friends.

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The other day we were talking
about movies and I found out

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that she'd never seen Jurassic
Park.

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Arc and how is that what the
Jurassic Park post is about?

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It may have been a post about it
just a little bit.

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Listen we're not in a position
to judge anyone though like a

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whole premise of the podcast is
Brad, has not seen all these

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movies.
Let's watch the movies together.

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So like you this is a safe
space.

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Oh no I feel bad, I don't care.
I'll admit you and I think it's

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ridiculous.
It's very strange.

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Okay.
Not strange, not ridiculous.

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I'm going to stop judging myself
here, but it is something that

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is surprising because Most
people I have ever met in my

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life.
Actually everyone I've ever met

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has seen all of them are at
least one or get it.

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I get the references, right?
Like Family Guy will have like a

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reference like in the middle of
an episode and I'm like, oh it's

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a Godfather reference.
However, seen the whole movie.

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Do I know what it's even about?
Like, who is that guy?

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Like, I don't know.
I know now I now know all three

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of them.
Boom boom, boom in a row.

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And in True Form to him I will
give him credit for it.

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Chris is so So great about like,
always kind of like, he just, I

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trust his judgment and he's like
the first one.

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Good second, one phenomenal,
third one, absolute garbage.

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And I have to agree.
Yeah.

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I'm gonna say coming off of the
three, the third ones, obviously

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your favorite though, it's
clearly clear.

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That top-notch material is
terrible, but then that, that,

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that brings up another important
point and I don't know.

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Have you guys ever had this
conversation?

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Forgive me in.
These where there are three.

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How often is it?
That the first one is the best.

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The second one is the best or
the third one.

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I feel like always falls off a
cliff.

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This is a great question and
we've had a couple trilogies on

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the show and I'm always partial
to the second chapter in a

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Trilogy because like, you got to
carry on the Legacy from the

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first one, but you don't have to
spend so much time setting stuff

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up and as long as you nail like
the Cliffhanger ending, then

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your gold.
It like Empire Strikes Back.

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Perfect example Brad and I are
both.

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Big Lord of the Rings fans.
The second Lord of the Rings.

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My is my favorite one of the
three.

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So I don't think the third one
is ever the best one but the

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second one for me, almost always
is Jose.

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One of the only exceptions to
that I would say is the Matrix

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trilogy where like the first one
is Far and Away the best of the

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three.
That's true.

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No.
And you don't know that's not a

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Trilogy anymore.
That they made a fourth one.

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Yeah, probably yeah.
It does that count, right?

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I'd still considered a Trilogy
with like a hanger.

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Just a little Klinger hanging on
there at the end.

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That's how I feel about the Toy
Story movies, like, you have

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perfect Trilogy and then you
come out with a fourth one that

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greedy that completely
undermines the rest of it.

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Like holy greeting.
I just don't don't acknowledge

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it.
No.

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But you know what else or the
first one is absolutely like can

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stand alone, right?
Like if none of the other ones

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were made it would be start to
finish, like the story.

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They're done clench it up, done
Home Alone.

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There we go.
I know, it's, yeah, the first

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one Yep.
Amazing second one.

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Okay, I guess third one.
Who's that kid?

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Like, who cares?
Like, go away.

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Sorry.
I offended too.

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You know, it's bad.
When you're like actively

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rooting against the kid by like
the third one, I hope the

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flavors.
No, it's not personal.

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It's nothing personal.
But like, one of the most

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fascinating things I find about
home alone.

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Is that in the first one?
It is a night.

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I know this is like going weird
but, like whatever it's not only

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a holiday movie.
I'm not Serving this into like

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Christmas movies.
Yes it is about Christmas but I

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could watch Home Alone.
Anytime of the year, every

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single scene in the movie,
incorporates nothing, but red

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and green, go back and watch it,
pay close attention, whoever

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designed all of that layout,
like the whole movie, the

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wallpaper, the artwork on the
walls, the carpet, the kitchen

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appliances everything, red and
green everything all the time.

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No matter what go back, you
cannot unsee it.

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See, this is why we bring you
on, I love it.

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I've never even thought about
that or do.

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It's so funny.
As you were saying that I was

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like just mentally going through
the movie.

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I'm like, Yep.
They're like yep, red and green.

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Yeah, that's right.
A green like almost every room

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in the house is like red
wallpaper.

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No yeah, no seriously.
Go back and watch it and you're

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going to be like, oh my God,
like the Wardrobe, the cars, and

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your everything, if he's Ibaka
everything.

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The craziest thing to me in that
movie was the fact that Joe

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Pesci did that and Goodfellas in
the same year, are you serious?

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Yeah.
What a year, what are you here

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for that guy.
Best year, those his golden

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year.
Do you ever just like, look at

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somebody that does something
incredible like that and just

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think like I will never have a
year where I like I'm never

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going to have a year where I
have my life's equivalent of

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Good Fellows and home alone.
That's just like it's

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unattainable now.
I don't know.

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I think that's my year this
year.

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I think that's what just
happened.

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Area had a day.
I quit.

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I Today.
And I got married in the same

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day.
Like, that was my day.

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Like, I don't get a whole year,
but I can have a day Joe Pesci

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of 2022.
That's right.

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Jackie's.
I can get ready.

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00:22:27,500 --> 00:22:28,800
Here we go.
You guys.

450
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,000
I don't know why you guys don't
have like Awards.

451
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,800
Like you need to have like an
award ceremony of these sorts of

452
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,600
things.
Really, I'm gladly, accept the

453
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,700
Pesci will give you a little
here, and we'll be like a bust

454
00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:42,400
of his head that will just send
you in the mail, the Pesci, the

455
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,700
Pesci humanitarian award by.
Is it his head?

456
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,700
And good follows.
This is headed home alone like

457
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:51,300
after like the hats been burned
through.

458
00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,900
Oh yeah.
The one it'll be actively on

459
00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:57,000
fire.
The bus will include the flame

460
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,900
things like the Olympic torch.
It just never goes out.

461
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,400
It's amazing.
All right Jackie.

462
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,100
I've got a couple more movie
related questions here.

463
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,100
Okay.
The most burning of, which is am

464
00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:12,400
I to understand that you have
not yet seen top gun Maverick?

465
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:15,800
This is like, oh my God.
Okay, this is so crazy because

466
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,700
you know where I'm leaving.
And 15 minutes.

467
00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:22,800
When we're wrapping this up is
I'm heading to a drive drive in

468
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,800
in the middle of a cornfield and
Iowa to watch that.

469
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,800
Exactly Jackie.
I had my not lying, is the

470
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:36,900
greatest know like like like 30
year follow-up, because the the

471
00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:40,600
Studios have been obsessed with
remaking or continuing movies

472
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,700
from 50 years ago, this one
actually did it.

473
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:49,100
And it's, I am We might just
need to have you on to review

474
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:50,700
it.
Once you've seen it.

475
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,300
Oh my God.
I will, I can't wait.

476
00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:55,400
I guess.
I better pay attention tonight

477
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,200
at the movies.
That's so weird to you guys

478
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,800
about that.
Literally like I'm good.

479
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:04,000
It's like leaving to go see that
baby.

480
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,400
I'm a huge standard Top Gun fan.
I am.

481
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,600
So it's a spectacular really?
I'm excited.

482
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:13,700
Okay, well, I trust your
judgment.

483
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:16,000
I couldn't tell like every word
to word.

484
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000
I was like, are they going well?
Great with this like are they

485
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,700
about to say like it is a huge
amazing failure like it was that

486
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:26,000
was coming up.
I don't know where you think not

487
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,600
excited.
Okay, this is cool.

488
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,700
Lately, I've been finding myself
pulling Whiskey's off the shelf

489
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:35,500
that are consistently unique
ones.

490
00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:37,900
That tell a good story.
Every time I pop the Cork and I

491
00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:42,000
have to say the dock Swensons is
absolutely top tier when it

492
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,400
comes to a fascinating poor.
What separates doc Swensons from

493
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,600
the rest of the pack is their
unrelenting?

494
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,200
Goal of always letting the
whiskey shine.

495
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,600
No matter what whiskey comes
through.

496
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,000
The front door at Doc's.
Their team of tasters will blend

497
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,700
and finish it into something
that is deliciously.

498
00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:02,000
Herbal the beautiful thing about
a good blended whiskey.

499
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,700
Is that often times with proper
care and attention, they turn

500
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:08,000
into a whiskey.
That is truly greater than the

501
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,700
sum of their parts.
Whether you're trying their

502
00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:14,800
alter ego blenders cut or
exploratory series, you are

503
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,500
guaranteed to have a phenomenal
experience with Doc's Woodson's

504
00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:23,000
whiskey, you can find them
online at Doc's, whisky.com,

505
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:30,300
that's doccs whisky.com.
All right, so not to get too

506
00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:33,500
serious here, but like, you
know, you're going through some

507
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:36,300
major life transitions.
I think we all have in the last

508
00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:38,800
couple years, I like, I just
started another job.

509
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,200
So I'm really resonating with
your story of leaving, and

510
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,300
starting and everything else.
If you had to pick a comfort

511
00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:50,200
movie for, when you were going
through it in life, what's your

512
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,100
moving, our youth?
What do you throwing on?

513
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:54,000
When you're yeah, do it.
There's only one.

514
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:57,300
There's only one.
I don't know if we've ever

515
00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:58,900
talked, I would be shocked.
I know.

516
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:03,700
Talked about Wes Anderson and my
love for Wes Anderson films but

517
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,200
I heart huckabees got me through
this entire transition big time.

518
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,300
Okay.
Yeah, dead serious.

519
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,100
I watched that I have seen that
movie over a thousand times.

520
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:16,800
I know every single word in that
movie it is my I just need

521
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,900
something on Just for background
noise.

522
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:23,500
I need to like not like think
about anything right now.

523
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:25,700
I need somebody to distract me
like all of it.

524
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:30,700
I just I heard Huckabee's.
Especially if you're in a

525
00:26:30,708 --> 00:26:34,700
corporate job and you're like
God I just why can't I just work

526
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:37,100
for myself?
I just wanna you know, carve

527
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,000
things out of wood.
That's what I want to do.

528
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,100
Like just watch it, just watch
it.

529
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,200
You're not alone like you're
okay.

530
00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:47,300
That's my go-to.
Yeah it's hysterical.

531
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:50,100
I think it was like very poorly
rated because it's probably like

532
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:53,100
a terrible baby after all, but
like I enjoy it.

533
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:57,900
So I'm willing to own that but
it is very much satirical take

534
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:00,700
on corporate.
Environments.

535
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,300
Yeah.
And and that's the beauty of

536
00:27:02,308 --> 00:27:04,100
movies, right?
It doesn't have to hate for

537
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,700
everybody.
As long as it hits, ya, you

538
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:06,900
people?
Listen.

539
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,300
I did, we did a whole season of
the podcast where we were just

540
00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:14,700
picking movies from, you know,
15 years ago that we remember

541
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,100
loving and re-evaluated them to
see if they were any good.

542
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,500
And, you know, we had a couple
Duds like I was I brought up

543
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,700
Elizabethtown and I was like, I
love this movie when I was in

544
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:26,300
high school and that movie
sucks.

545
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,500
But I'm still there still, like
there's a soft spot in my heart.

546
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:32,800
For that movie, I know.
Because it's connected to a time

547
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,200
and a place for you.
Right?

548
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Like it goes in behind the
movie, it's not.

549
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000
It's definitely not just the
movie, right?

550
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,000
This one is funny because it
really does blend the sort of

551
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,200
and it's funny now, like, it's
an older movie.

552
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,700
I don't even know what year it
was made in.

553
00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:50,000
But like it's just it's not new
by any means.

554
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,300
But I think right now we're kind
of in this like World of like

555
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,500
existentialism and like new agey
kind of methodologies coming to

556
00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:59,500
light.
And like on Trend if you will

557
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,500
Even though a lot of people have
already been, like, leaning into

558
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:04,300
that kind of stuff.
So, it's kind of funny that

559
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:08,500
it's, like, here's the
juxtaposition sterility and,

560
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,500
like, falsehood and like this
corporate culture, where it's

561
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:14,900
just kind of phony versus like
the complete opposite end of the

562
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:20,000
spectrum of, like, just
completely, it's if you haven't

563
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,400
seen it, go watch it.
If you're listening to this, if

564
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,900
you don't like it, I know, like,
I know you don't like it, like

565
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:30,000
it's probably not a good movie,
like an Ting, but I've always

566
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,600
thought it was funny because
I've just always found like that

567
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,700
kind of like, work environment
to be funny.

568
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,900
It's because it's, I don't know.
It's just, it's just hysterical

569
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:42,300
to me, right?
There's that.

570
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,100
Before we let you go today,
we're going to start something

571
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:46,200
new.
We've never done it before.

572
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,600
So you are are here the test
pilot here.

573
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:50,900
Do we started so many new things
today?

574
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:53,700
Like, we've started the Pesci's,
right?

575
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:57,600
Like, yeah.
I just like, ruined.

576
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,700
Everybody's like taste.
For Jackie's movie picks by

577
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,800
suggesting to watch.
I heard Huckabee's like

578
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,000
absolutely not be disappointed.
No I think this is great.

579
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,500
I think this is just the
Pinnacle of our show and it's

580
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:12,000
all downhill from here, perfect,
I can't wait.

581
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:14,900
All right, so when when I was
growing up there was a show on

582
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:18,100
the TV channel called Bravo and
it was called Inside the Actors

583
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,400
Studio.
I don't know if you're familiar

584
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,900
with it, James Lipton and at the
end of every one of those

585
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:25,900
episodes, he had a questionnaire
that he would walk everybody

586
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:27,600
through.
And so you'd hear like Denzel

587
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,500
Washington give his favorite
curse word.

588
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,100
Something.
And I always loved that it was

589
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:36,000
based on, you know, some,
another authors questionnaire

590
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
that he would always ask people
which in turn was based on

591
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,900
something that proust wrote.
So we have developed the film

592
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:46,600
and whiskey inside the whiskey
Studio questionnaire, and we're

593
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,900
going to have today, is the
first time.

594
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:50,400
This is the first one ever.
This is no pressure.

595
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:54,700
Okay.
Is this like a quick-fire

596
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:56,400
format?
I am, I like to think.

597
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,400
I mean, you can take a little
bit but like, you know, only on

598
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,200
only a tiny bit of thinking,
right?

599
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,000
2% of your brain.
Minimal thinking.

600
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,900
Alright, here we go.
Ready, what is your favorite

601
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:11,700
word?
All right, all right.

602
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:14,400
What is your least least
favorite word.

603
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:20,500
Absolutely stacked.
Favorite word in this entire

604
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:34,500
world is cubbyhole like dollop
cubbyhole like just splattered

605
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:38,000
that bothers me too but don't
cubbyhole you've already you've

606
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,100
already hinted but what's your
favorite curse?

607
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:45,000
Word.
I don't know.

608
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,300
I feel I already used one
earlier in this, but I think

609
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:51,800
that my favorite one that I feel
more comfortable using just in

610
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:57,200
public is a really versatile
would truly it is, it's great.

611
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,900
What sound or noise?
Do you just love?

612
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:05,900
I know I'm not supposed to think
about this.

613
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:08,800
Like, I do think about this, the
think about this.

614
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,000
I don't know.
I like the sound of sizzling

615
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,800
food.
There have been if it's going to

616
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,600
be crispy.
I don't Liz Lange meat.

617
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:18,300
I don't like a fajita situation,
like a sizzling plate, like if

618
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:21,300
you're like making, let me go
real redneck here, you know,

619
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:31,700
when you're like, making pizza
rolls in the oven Bob and I have

620
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:34,800
a continuing debate.
Whether pizza rolls or pizza

621
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,900
bagels, are better roles all day
long.

622
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:39,600
I don't want Bagels.
Thank you.

623
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:42,800
Thank you too much.
Cross to filling ratio way too

624
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,400
much crust.
Jackie, you are illustrious and

625
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,100
amazing.
What sound or noise?

626
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,700
Do you hate anything?
That sounds gelatinous?

627
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,500
Like if you took like a Jello
mold and just like shook it

628
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,500
around and it was just like,
like, we all know that was a

629
00:32:00,508 --> 00:32:02,500
kid.
I wasn't quick answer, I love

630
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:03,500
it.
Yep.

631
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:07,200
Yeah, what profession outside of
the whiskey world?

632
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,300
Would you love to attempt?
Before I got into whiskey, I was

633
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:15,500
in this like different phase of
finally having the guts to

634
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:18,800
explore interior design and I
love interior design so much.

635
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,900
I was just like well I'm
probably not going to make any

636
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:22,700
money.
It's like, you know that like

637
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:25,300
childhood trauma that tells me
like make money, make money

638
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:28,200
work, work work.
So like I never did it but I do

639
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,700
love it.
I very much, enjoy it.

640
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,700
Jackie, if you need the name and
number of a good counselor

641
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,700
afterwards.
I know one, I'll email it to

642
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:41,800
you.
David Parker, I love you, sir.

643
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,900
Shout out to Parker.
Who are your favorite?

644
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:48,000
Who are your favorite fictional
Heroes?

645
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:53,100
I have never gravitated towards
the hero.

646
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,900
Always really appreciate the
village spicy take here.

647
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,100
Mmm.
Yeah, that's a Twist isn't the

648
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:02,300
Pesci?
Indeed.

649
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,800
I don't know.
All right, how about this one?

650
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,200
Who are you?
Who are your favorite real-life

651
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,500
Heroes?
Well, Parker my favorite best.

652
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:20,300
There it is, I'm just joking.
Um, I don't know, I've had the

653
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:26,400
very, very fortunate path.
Here of having so many amazing

654
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,200
people come into my life and so,
I don't know.

655
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,400
I don't have an answer for that.
I really don't favorite

656
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,300
musician.
Should I don't have any answer

657
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:38,100
for that one either.
I'm not that.

658
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,500
So have we talked about this
before?

659
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:41,600
I know I'm like totally
destroying this whole like rapid

660
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,800
fire thing from like a killer,
you're doing great now just

661
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,000
really, really drown in here
that I'm like the same way I

662
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,100
think this is our first episode
we ever did together.

663
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:53,300
We were like, oh we're talking
about - that's like I'm really

664
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:55,600
insecure about this because I
don't get like deep into like

665
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,700
the critical stuff of like
movies.

666
00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:00,400
The same way with music, we were
like, what kind of music you

667
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,200
listen?
And I'm like, I don't know

668
00:34:01,208 --> 00:34:02,600
everything.
What's your name?

669
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:04,900
I don't know anything.
And it's like, what would you

670
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,000
Surely, you must have some and
I'm like, I don't know.

671
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,100
I just know if in that moment in
that mood with that phase of the

672
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:12,900
moon.
I like what I hear then cool if

673
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:16,699
I put that subject to change.
So I don't know, I don't hold

674
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:19,000
tightly.
Keep any of them got it.

675
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:20,699
All right.
Yeah, man.

676
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:22,100
That was emphatic.
Okay.

677
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:27,199
We will, what do you value most
in your friends?

678
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,600
Honesty, I guess and not towards
me towards everything.

679
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,400
I like honesty, people.
I like people who have the guts,

680
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,900
to be honest, no matter.
What, what's your principal

681
00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:45,100
defect, what does that mean?
What does that even mean?

682
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:46,900
Like what's the number one thing
wrong with me?

683
00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:50,699
We don't have time like we do
not have time.

684
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,600
I principle.
Is that what you mean?

685
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,699
Or do you mean like physical
like, what do you mean?

686
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,900
No.
Nothing Exactly.

687
00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:01,700
Okay.
Well, you know, I always was

688
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,600
yeah, it's getting real intimate
here.

689
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:13,600
I think I honestly, I have
difficulty sitting still and

690
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,200
that is a problem because it
just I just like constantly,

691
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,800
just go, go go go go go go go
go.

692
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,100
And I wear myself out and then I
do it over again.

693
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:23,700
So that is the defect for me
that I can't sit still.

694
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,700
So on the flipside, working on
it.

695
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:29,700
On the flip side, what is a gift
that you You wish you possessed.

696
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:34,600
I wish I was better at small
talk because I'm terrible at

697
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,700
small talk.
I don't know what to say.

698
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,400
I don't know how to say it.
I don't know how to start it,

699
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:42,600
and I think that makes me come
off as like a total ass

700
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:44,900
sometimes, because I'm just
like, quiet and sitting there,

701
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:46,600
like, I'm judging the world.
I'm not.

702
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,200
I'm just sitting there panicking
and my mind on a hamster wheel.

703
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,300
Like, what do I say?
What do I say?

704
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:53,300
What do I get?
So I go like that, so yeah, all

705
00:35:53,308 --> 00:35:54,600
right.
Here's the chance to keep like

706
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,700
cheese, this is who's really
vulnerable here.

707
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,800
Here's a chance to feel better,
what's your favorite thing?

708
00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:01,500
About yourself.
What do you just love?

709
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:03,100
You're like man Jack.
He's awesome.

710
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,900
I don't know I think that I have
a really nice tenacity to me.

711
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
We're I you I don't half-ass
anything.

712
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,300
I will see it through and make
sure it's the best of the best

713
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:17,800
of the best that I can do
possible.

714
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,200
I do I try very hard with
everything that I do.

715
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:22,700
That is a very good quality.
All right.

716
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:25,000
Sometimes I'm funny but like, I
don't know.

717
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,100
Here's one that I hope it's not
too dark, but for someone who

718
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:29,800
likes, I heart huckabees, we
should be okay.

719
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:35,200
If you, if you had a say in how
you died, how would you want to

720
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,100
go out?
Like super boring here?

721
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:44,000
Like I'm not like I want to like
you know fall into a volcano and

722
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,600
like whatever.
Like no I want to be so old that

723
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,900
no one gives a shit that I even
exist anymore and I want to die

724
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:53,400
in my sleep.
You know that you got to go out

725
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,600
like Rose in Titanic.
Mike?

726
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:01,900
No.
Sympathize, but like, goes and

727
00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:05,900
meets Leo in the afterlife.
Yeah, I know, but like, I don't

728
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:08,600
know the Titanic we're gonna
have to do a whole different

729
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,000
episode.
Um, it's icy and basically

730
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,100
there's a whole thing because I
was there, I was there at like

731
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:16,600
Prime, like I'm going to the
movies with my friends, phase of

732
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,100
life when it was in the
theaters.

733
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,400
And I was there when it came
onto VHS has like in a box set,

734
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,400
he had to like, you know, get up
and put the second one in like

735
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:27,300
we need to unpack Titanic.
No not.

736
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Not as good of a movie as Oh
yeah, extra I'll watch it.

737
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:36,400
Hot tea, will Jackie.
All right, we've got one final

738
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,300
question for you here.
And this is one that we really

739
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:41,900
did come up with just for the
show, the last few guests that

740
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:44,300
we've had on that have been,
like brand ambassadors or

741
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:46,400
distillers.
We've been asking them this

742
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,300
because our audience prizes
value, and people keep pairing,

743
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:54,200
their Whiskey's with like,
high-end charcuterie and stuff.

744
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,400
And we're like, listen, our
audience is not eating that.

745
00:37:56,700 --> 00:38:00,900
If you had two pair hidden Barn,
like the current The current

746
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:03,900
expression of it with any fast
food item.

747
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,900
What would you pick?
Okay, I don't know.

748
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,600
Can I go with?
Like I'm more accessible food,

749
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,400
like, prepaired food grocery
store doesn't have to be fast

750
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,700
food like chain because what for
first came to mind, okay, back

751
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,500
in the day, through these
Frozen.

752
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:26,000
Like dinners, I guess I use that
in quotes Loosely dinners kids

753
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,600
cuisine.
And there's one with chicken

754
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,500
nuggets and it had mac and
cheese.

755
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,000
And there's like, Brownie that
cooked in the microwave.

756
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:33,400
Come on.
Come on, Jack.

757
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:34,800
Let's go.
That's it.

758
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:37,000
Yeah that's it.
It's Kids Cuisine chicken

759
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,500
nuggets meal.
That's what it is.

760
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:42,400
Listen as a family that frequent
did save a lot when I was a kid.

761
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,300
Like kids cuisine was the
highest end thing on the menu.

762
00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:50,600
That like you said special yes.
Birthday meal.

763
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,800
Like yes, intense.
You'd throw that brownie in the

764
00:38:52,808 --> 00:38:55,100
microwave.
Oh oh.

765
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,700
I know that's why I'm saying
like it's yep.

766
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,100
And if I may because he doesn't
resonate with you.

767
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:03,000
But you're like well I can't
afford the $60 worth of

768
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
charcuterie, you know, it works
just as good Lunchables.

769
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:09,600
You get the ham and cheese
lunchable make sure you put the

770
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,300
cheese between the ham and the
cracker or it sticks to the top

771
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,100
of your mouth and it comes with
an Oreo.

772
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,400
Most of the time.
Sometimes a Capri-Sun good to

773
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,500
go.
It's a fast meals or that 100%.

774
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:19,800
That's it.
That's all you need.

775
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:24,400
How far we have all come or not.
We're full circle.

776
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,700
Yeah like exactly as they might
be full circle, Jackie Max?

777
00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:32,400
I don't know.
If there's a more fun person in

778
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,900
the world of whiskey to talk to
like y'all are the best.

779
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:38,600
What a blessing to have you on.
Thank you.

780
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,300
I hate.
All right we're going to we're

781
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:43,700
going to try this whiskey now.
So can you give us can you like

782
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,100
intro our whiskey segment?
Yeah, for sure what you were

783
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:51,700
about to sip is going to make
you want to share with you with

784
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:55,400
your friends, which is the point
of this Whiskey In general, it

785
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,500
is delicious.
It is balanced and structured

786
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:01,400
but it is a little bit unique in
This is all pot still

787
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,300
distillation, there's no column
still.

788
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,800
This is low pot so deflation, so
like we're taking it off the

789
00:40:06,808 --> 00:40:10,100
still at 127 proof and going
into Darrell 110.

790
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,200
The barrel has been seasoned Oak
for two years sitting out to

791
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,200
season.
So it's super, super stripped of

792
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,700
all that acidity.
This is four year old whisky.

793
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:25,200
This is Barrel strength.
It's 106 period for VH1.

794
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,600
So like that is straight out of
their old.

795
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,500
There is no filtration, there's
a cheesecloth catches, the chart

796
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:31,200
chunks and Is it?
There's no wins.

797
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,300
There's no water, it's just is
what it is, and it's beautiful.

798
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:40,400
It's a 70 batch.
It's wild yeast, which is kind

799
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,700
of it's risky to use while these
because you never know what the

800
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:47,200
flavor is going to be, but
that's exactly what makes it so

801
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,700
unique tasting.
So yeah.

802
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,000
Jackie.
I'm like, wildly excited to

803
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,300
drink this now.
Oh, yeah.

804
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:55,800
It's pretty good.
It's I'm not gonna lie for you.

805
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,400
Ladies and gentlemen, this has
been Jackie's.

806
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,200
I can of Hidden Barn.
I prize these discussions, above

807
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,100
almost everyone that we have on
this show.

808
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:08,700
I can't wait to have you back on
again, hopefully after you go

809
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:10,200
see Top Gun tonight.
Yes.

810
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,700
So Jackie, thank you so much for
being.

811
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:17,100
Thank you guys so so much.
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812
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813
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814
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815
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:29,600
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you probably seen the manscaped

816
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,400
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yourself like, do I really need

817
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,000
like some sort of specialty
trimmer to take care of my

818
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,600
downstairs business.
And I've just got to be honest.

819
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,700
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820
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:46,800
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821
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:50,200
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That reduces grooming mishaps, a

822
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,500
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823
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,200
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while you're working and beyond

824
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,500
all that it's waterproof.
This thing is really changing

825
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:00,500
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the belt hygiene.

826
00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:03,600
Now this is just me talking
about my experience, but this

827
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,400
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828
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,800
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832
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833
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:28,400
All right everybody.
We're not going to delay it.

834
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,900
Any longer you have heard from
the master herself, Jackie's, I

835
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:35,100
can giving an intro to this
whiskey hidden Barn, just to

836
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:38,800
reiterate a couple quick points.
Everything in this, this bottle

837
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,500
is pot stilled, Brad.
It's a blend of just a few

838
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:43,500
barrels at this.
She said, like seven barrels

839
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:47,600
total, it's four years old, the
barrels that they were aged in,

840
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,400
were left out in the elements to
kind of cure and get what was

841
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,300
the word she used not toasted
but tasty tasty.

842
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:58,800
There it is.
They got tasty for my real

843
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,700
tasty.
Let's Dive Right In.

844
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:03,400
Brad on the nose.
This is really interesting to me

845
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,900
because, you know, it's four
years old but it smells really

846
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:08,900
really yeasty.
And that was another thing

847
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:11,800
Jackie said, was that this was
made with wild yeast like this

848
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,800
yeast, grew out in the
wilderness and it smells the way

849
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,700
that a lot of young whiskey
smell because it has that really

850
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:22,600
yeasty kind of grain forward
character to it.

851
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,600
But on top of that, I'm getting
like a really fresh handful of

852
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,900
wildflowers and quite a bit of
melon to like I get some

853
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:34,600
cantaloupe on this.
I really like it dude.

854
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:41,000
I got Grain on the front and
then for me it was just

855
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,800
butterscotch on top of
butterscotch on top of

856
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,800
butterscotch.
It's not incredibly deep like

857
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,300
that.
Like the depth isn't there that

858
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:51,300
you get with a lot of decadent
whiskeys.

859
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,100
But I just I literally for about
20 minutes with smelling this

860
00:43:56,100 --> 00:44:02,000
whiskey And couldn't get around.
That knows it just smells like a

861
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,800
rich.
Butterscotch feel to it and I am

862
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,700
just really impressed that there
is that much kind of creaminess

863
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:17,400
to go along with that grain
forward, note, hmm, when you

864
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,300
were talking about the rich
butterscotch, all I could think

865
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:23,500
of was Ron, Burgundy.
Sing my apartment smells of Rich

866
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:27,400
mahogany, Rich butterscotch.
It's so funny.

867
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,900
I like I was just having a
conversation with my wife about

868
00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:32,000
this.
Do you ever do you ever think in

869
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,000
colors when you taste things?
No, I do not.

870
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:38,200
Does that make sense to you?
Like, do you ever you know, that

871
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,500
scene in Ratatouille, where he's
like, eating the strawberry and

872
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,200
then like everything behind him.
Turns pink?

873
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:44,500
Yeah.
Like I've had that before, where

874
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:46,500
I'm like, I don't know how to
explain this, but this just

875
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:49,500
tastes like what?
I imagine the color mahogany.

876
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:53,000
Wood would taste like or the
color turquoise would taste

877
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,400
like, yeah.
You know what?

878
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,400
I just learned literally today,
Bob.

879
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,300
I learned that some people think
in images and other people,

880
00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:05,100
think and words, huh?
And I had no idea that people

881
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:07,400
didn't just think in words all
the time.

882
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:09,900
I I'm with you I think I think
in words.

883
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:13,700
Yeah, once in a while, I think
in images but like, like I said,

884
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:17,600
colors sometimes come to mind.
Yeah, I just, I literally had no

885
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,100
idea that when some people think
it's in image form, like, I'm

886
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:24,900
not really sure how that works.
I'm very curious about it.

887
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:26,500
I'm going to learn more so I'll
repeat.

888
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,900
We're back next bonus episode
and let you know where I'm at.

889
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:32,300
In our listeners have just
gotten so much, educational

890
00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:34,700
content, this episode, you're
welcome.

891
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,200
All right?
When we get to The Taste Brad,

892
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,300
again, it kind of reminds me of
a brand.

893
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:42,400
We featured about a year ago on
the show, called Broken Barrel,

894
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:46,900
where we talked about, how that
process of submerging the staves

895
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:51,600
in like a big vat of the stuff
really helps kind of sand off

896
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,100
or, you know, the rough edges on
the young whiskey and that it

897
00:45:55,107 --> 00:45:56,400
still had a lot of young
character.

898
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,500
On it.
But like there was no harshness

899
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:00,700
to it.
This one I kind of feel like is

900
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:05,500
that but taken to its extreme,
like there is just a tiny bit of

901
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:08,600
that youthfulness.
And yeast Enos underneath all

902
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,300
this, but it's like, it's been
covered up by so many incredible

903
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:16,200
things on top of that.
Yeah, and I know again like a

904
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,700
youthful taste is not
necessarily a bad thing.

905
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:21,400
So I don't want to make it sound
like oh, they're covering up

906
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,100
some flaws here.
That's not it at all.

907
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:25,800
It's just, it just tastes like
it's not a super well, aged

908
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,800
whiskey.
And so like right on the tip of

909
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,900
my tongue, it is like
overwhelmingly sweet.

910
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:34,100
This is a really really sweet
bourbon.

911
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:36,600
It hits the mid palate and
that's when you pick up a little

912
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,000
bit of that yeast Enos, but for
me that's also where the kind of

913
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,600
alcohol burn started to set in
and then towards the back of the

914
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,900
palette, you get a lot of really
nice baking spices.

915
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:48,600
I got a lot of clove on this one
on the finish.

916
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,300
And I think that those notes at
coming at the right times in the

917
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:55,500
drinking experience really did
kind of cover up some of the

918
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:59,500
youthfulness on this.
Yeah, it's an incredibly smooth

919
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:04,100
whiskey throughout the
experience, there is a really

920
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:07,100
nice marriage of grain with
sweetness.

921
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:11,000
I think for me it was almost
like an apple peel.

922
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,800
Butterscotch mixture that was
underlaid with all sorts of kind

923
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,100
of grain.
You get a little bit of that

924
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:21,400
kind of barley feel coming
through.

925
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,900
I really like this palette a
lot, Bob it is unique and

926
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:28,500
complex.
And interesting and I haven't

927
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:32,300
had many things like it.
No, I totally agree and I think

928
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:35,200
that's again, it gets back to
the beauty of blending where I

929
00:47:35,207 --> 00:47:38,600
don't know if you could get this
specific kind of a pallet just

930
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,400
from just from like a single
barrel, you know what I mean?

931
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,500
Like it it seems like Jackie was
pulling rather disparate

932
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:48,100
elements together and making
something really, really cool

933
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,200
out of it.
And again that gets back to the

934
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,500
finish here.
The Finish doesn't have any of

935
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:54,100
that.
Sort of melon, that I picked up

936
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:58,200
on the nose, it gets really into
Like the kind of Darker baking

937
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,400
spices, like some molasses and
some clove for me.

938
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:05,700
I'm really digging this man.
It takes you on a journey as you

939
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:09,200
sip it.
Yeah, for the finish for me,

940
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:14,400
there is like mint and Oak and
butter that all mixes together

941
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,000
beautifully.
Man.

942
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,300
This is just a really incredibly
impressive first offering out of

943
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:22,200
hidden Barn.
Bob, yeah, totally agree.

944
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,900
And we can't say thank you
enough to our friend Jackie's.

945
00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:27,900
I can, I can't wait to try it.
More of these as they continue

946
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:30,800
to come out.
It sounds like they are going to

947
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,900
kind of Let each batch be its
own thing that it's not

948
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:37,600
necessarily going for the same
taste every time and I think

949
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,100
that's an incredible way to go
because it reminds us of some

950
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:43,300
other distillers and producers
that we really love that go

951
00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:46,900
batch by batch and let each
batch Shine for what it is.

952
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,800
So yeah, great things coming out
of hidden Barn.

953
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,100
Always a good time to talk to
our friend Jackie's.

954
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:56,100
I can Brad we will be back on
Monday with another regularly

955
00:48:56,100 --> 00:49:01,200
scheduled Episode but until then
I'm Bob book I'm Reggie and

956
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,300
we'll see you next time.