Baby Driver/ Speyburn 10

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In 2017 director Edgar Wright
and star Ansel Elgort gave the

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world, a dynamic and thrilling
Heist movie.

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That drives you to the edge of
your seat in 2022.

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We return to the speyside region
of Scotland to try yet another

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single malt.
The film is baby driver, the

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whiskey is spayed, burnt n, and
more view them both.

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This is the film and whiskey
podcast.

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Welcome to the film and whiskey
podcast, where each week, we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob book, I'm like still
jazzed for watching this movie

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earlier today.
Bob, one of my favorite things

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about you, Brad.
Actually, can you tell the

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people your name because you
still?

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Oh, I'm I'm Reggie.
I'm Brad, G.

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One of my favorite things about
you is that you just

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unironically use the word
jazzed.

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Like, I'm so many words you
could use like, you know, like

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I'm pumped up.
I'm psyched, I'm jacked.

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No, jest, it's a great word, it
really is, you're bringing it

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back single-handedly.
Yeah.

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And let's be really honest.
My adrenaline was pumping, I was

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like taking my My one and a half
year old for a walk afterwards

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and I was like almost like run
walking, my adrenaline was like

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still pumping from having
watched it.

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I had a similar experience
watching this movie.

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Oh I should say this week.
We're reviewing baby driver

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Edgar, Wright's 5017 Masterpiece
and I had a very similar

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experience watching this film to
the experience.

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I had watching Top Gun Maverick
recently.

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Yes, driving home.
After top gun Maverick.

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I was like I should go now.
Five miles an hour.

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I literally was like going
around one of the like

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roundabout entrances on ramps,
onto the highway it in, like 60

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on the curved part of it.
And Haley was like, honey,

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you're not Tom Cruise and I was
like, but I could be, but we're

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the same height, we are the same
height, he is also five foot

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six, he sure is man, which is
crazy.

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I've stood next to you.
I don't think I could take Tom

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Cruise quite as seriously in
real being.

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That short, I All I think of,
when I think of Tom Cruise's

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height is the Family Guy version
of Tom Cruise, which is just the

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best thing in the world.
Oh man, we're like three minutes

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in and we're already referencing
Family Guy.

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It's gonna be one of those
episodes today, as we look at

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baby driver now, Brad, you.
And I have known each other for

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a while, but baby driver is one
of my Fondest movie-going

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Memories of all time.
And I shared it with you and

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it's one of our first movies
that we shared together because

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we went to Chicago with a small
group of our friends, to

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celebrate the bachelor party of
our friend, Mike Giles and one

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evening, we were like trying to
find something to do in the

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Chicagoland area and we didn't
want to go back downtown.

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So we said, hey, let's all go
see a movie.

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We walked into this theater.
Couldn't figure out what to

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watch decided to leave and then
20 minutes later wanted to go to

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the movies again.
So we drove like to the

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outskirts of Chicago and went to
this tiny mom-and-pop theater to

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see baby driver.
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And it was Was it was one of
those moments where like I had

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become very cynical about
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I was cynical about a lot of
things in my life at that point.

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And I remember seeing a preview
for baby driver, like, months

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beforehand, and I remember
thinking to myself, as I watch

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the preview, this movie is,
like, the epitome of what is

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wrong with Hollywood, nowadays?
Like, I don't know what it was

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about the trailer.
I've never watched it again

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since, but I just remember being
like this, is why.

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Hollywood is failing and so
going into it, you know, it's

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Mike's bachelor party where, you
know, he was like wanting to see

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it, so I was like, yeah, sure
like, yeah, let's go watch it on

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the inside.
I was like, man, F this like I

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am not interested in this movie
and I think that that helped

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because what we walked away from
was just one of the coolest

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movies I've ever seen in my
life.

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Brad, I don't know if I'm gonna
give this movie a 10 out of 10

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but I've probably spent more
More time wondering if this

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deserves a 10/10 than any other
movie, we've done on the show

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because everything about this
movie works, it just it.

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The rhythm of this film is
perfect even that at points

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where you think it's going to
kind of start to drag a little

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bit.
Something happens to liven,

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things back up.
It's just like an expertly

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constructed movie and I hate to
use the car metaphors.

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But like, everything about this
movie, it's it clicks.

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And it Is on all cylinders the
whole way through the movie.

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Yeah.
It literally keeps you at the

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edge of your see?
There it is.

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We need to just get as many of
those out of the way, like,

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right now.
No, dude, this movie.

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There's so much Beauty in the
way.

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Edgar Wright makes a movie.
And from, from what I have

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heard, he's not like the most
chill director to ever work

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with, but from what I've heard,
he's a he's a pretty cool

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director.
Like Like he's not super anal

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about everything, but he does
have a very specific vision and

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Direction and an idea of what he
wants and he accomplishes it in

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just such masterful ways.
All right, I think it's time for

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us to move into Brad explains
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Brad, it's time for this

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segment.
Brad explains where you break

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down the plot of the movie that
you have just seen often for the

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first time brought have you
watched this movie since we saw

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it together, five years ago?
Yeah, this is my third time.

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Watching it at said, some point.
I made my wife, sit down and

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watch it because I thought she
would enjoy it.

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She wasn't as big of a fan.
She used the words that was a

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really sad movie.
I was like, all right.

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Yeah, I guess it.
Kind of was people died.

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I have been trying to get my
wife to watch this movie for,

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like, four and a half years now,
and it just has not happened

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here.
We won't watch this movie.

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I don't know if it's that, she
won't watch it, but I always try

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to give her options so I'll
like, you know.

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Yeah.
But three Blu-rays and be like,

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pick what you want to watch and
she's never picked baby driver.

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Mmm, bums me out dude.
I'm in the same boat as you.

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You need to just walk up and
like put three different copies

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of Be driver and three different
movies and then just put it in

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and be like well don't know what
happened?

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Babe guess.
We'll just watch this.

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Just make a cover that makes it
look like it's a Jane Austen

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adaptation or something.
Yeah, exactly.

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Just pull out the Pride and
Prejudice wanted put it in the

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baby driver.
Alright Brad we have 60 seconds

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on the clock.
Can you break down the plot of

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baby driver?
Baby driver is about a young man

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who has been coerced into
working for a crime board.

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And under Lord knows what he is.
He's Kevin Spacey and we were

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not going to say his name
anymore at all in this podcast.

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He is persona non grata if you
will.

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Yeah, so he's working for this
crime boss and he is a

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phenomenal, getaway driver and
he's paying off his debt.

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In the midst of doing this, he
finds himself going to a diner

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where his mom worked at and he
Finds a girlfriend there, girl

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that he's very attracted to 10
seconds and his life comes into

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issue, man.
This is a, this is a bad Brad,

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explain.
Yes, it is and time.

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All right, we're not going to
offer any more explanation about

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this movie.
That's it.

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He's a driver and he likes a
girl.

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There you go.
And I think that's all you

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really need to know.
Yeah, I'm gonna die.

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I'm going to try to summarize
this because I can't let our

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listeners.
Just hang in the air with that.

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Yeah you can Bob just let it
very fun.

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Okay, so maybe driver, we've
been doing a mini series on

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Edgar Wright films.
This is the third and final one.

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In this mini series, we looked
at Shaun of the Dead last week,

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we looked at Scott Pilgrim.
And now we're looking at Baby

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driver and I said, last week
that on the surface, it seems

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like Scott Pilgrim maybe kind of
the outlier there because its

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stylized in such a very
different way, but that, I

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believe that baby driver was
actually the outlier.

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When you, when you look at the
themes that are usually kind of

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underlying Edgar Wright's
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And it's not to say that this
movie is like devoid of anything

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under the surface.
I think they do a good job of

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trying to give you some sympathy
for the character of baby and

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his backstory.
But ultimately Brad this is this

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is pretty much a surface level
movie and there's nothing wrong

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with that.
It just works like gangbusters

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but I would I do think that like
among Edgar Wright's filmography

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that we've seen, this is
definitely the outlier.

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I love that you're giving me
crap about using the word jazz.

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Aged and then you, you bust out
gangbusters is going to see the

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movies and drums.
Just gonna say welcome to this

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week's episode of old-timey,
1930s.

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The podcast You'll Never Take Me
Alive copper.

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That could be the subtitle of
this move.

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It's true.
Dude, this movie is just fun and

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witty and just rhythmic and
beautiful.

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And I don't even care what we
talk about.

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First, where do you want to go?
No, why don't you touch on?

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What I was just saying about
Edgar Wright and this being the

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oh yeah.
Yeah, it's interesting because

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he still has the, the basic
setup of like, here's a young

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man finding himself in the
world, right?

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And this time his coming of age
is to win a girl, which is, I

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don't know.
Is that like the classic

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coming-of-age story?
Like, I want to grow up so I can

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win this girl's affections.
That's a mean.

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Yeah that's a nice template for
one that's for sure.

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Yeah.
Well, that's a pretty simple one

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and it works here.
I think Lily James is freaking

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spectacular in The Limited role
that she's given the moment

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where she's pouring coffee in
her hand is just shaking and you

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can like feel the terror in her.
It really grounds the movie in a

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lot of ways, but I think for
Edgar Wright himself as a

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director, it feels like
simultaneously.

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The coalescing of everything he
has tried to do as a director

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and yet at the same time, a
movement away from some of the

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things that made him Edgar
Wright and previous films.

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Yeah, I think that's for sure.
And one of the ways that I

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noticed It in this movie I
texted this to you like halfway

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through watching it is that this
is like a Hollywood movie with a

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capital H, the way that Shaun of
the Dead, you know, mimicked, a

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lot of American independent
cinema, but still felt very

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British.
This is like, Hey, we're going

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to bring this guy over to
Hollywood.

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We're going to give him all the
resources in the world and he's

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going to make his movie.
That's undeniably his but it's

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the most polished slick version
of Movie that he could possibly

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make and I get I, I sound like,
I'm, I'm like crapping on this

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movie and that's not it at all
because I think this is like a

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nearly perfect version of an
Edgar Wright movie but it just

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it reminded me of like us
watching Pulp Fiction and

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Reservoir Dogs versus us
watching Django Unchained or

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Inglourious Basterds.
You know what I mean?

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Like with with 10 years of time
in between I guess it was 13

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years between Shaun of the Dead
and this movie you can tell That

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he's grown a little bit as a
filmmaker, but he's also learned

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like how to use those trademark
kind of like whoosh and quick

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pans that he does and where to
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movie Just flows.
So seamlessly even compared to a

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movie like Shaun of the Dead.
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The cinematography in this movie
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Just beautiful.
Like the way he films a car

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chase is the most exciting car I
think I've ever seen in a movie

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like this.
There's a lot of great car.

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Chase scenes in cinematic
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Oh man, does he know what he's
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There were certain moments of
the film where it felt like they

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took the final chase scene in
charade, you know, where they're

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like, cutting between the
different characters who are

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running as the camera whips past
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It felt like they were doing
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going, 80 90 miles an hour.
Our in downtown Atlanta for

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Chic.
It's just Bonkers.

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Cool.
What do you think it is?

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That makes movies like this?
So cool.

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I mean, there's a long line, a
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movies and I can't say that
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me.
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there's the classic Steve
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like, we've seen some good Chase
movies, even on this show and I

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brought up top gun Maverick a
minute ago, like what is it

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about?
Dudes in machines that go fast

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that just make a movie.
So awesome.

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That's like what the entire
first Top Gun like lived on was

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just like, hey, here's some
planes that go really fast and

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do cool things.
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on that and makes an even better
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But there's just something in
the human soul.

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thing.
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would enjoy it more, there's
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humans be phenomenal at
something that is captivating

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and when they're phenomenal at
things that you just

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instinctively know, take a lot
of talent and a lot of practice

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and skill like there's a reason
you watch soccer or football or

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something and like it's almost
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do.
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driving down the lane and you
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times like he's done it.
And yet, there's still something

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beautiful about him, rising up
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slamming that basketball home.
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just instinctively know, the
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energy and, and to produce that
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people who made these cars, put
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effort and attention into it.
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how to drive cars in this way,
have taken it beyond anything.

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I Hi, is an average viewer of
this movie could do with a car

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and so watching them, do all
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And then the way Edgar Wright
cuts it all together in the, the

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music that he puts to it.
I've just dude I'm just getting

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Jazz thinking about it.
You're getting jazzed again man.

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I've been thinking about this a
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this.
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whether you know, it or not,
there's an appreciation of

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filmmaking that goes on with a
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to pull off?
Like a, a Chase sequence is much

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much, much, much harder than
anyone realizes, and I think,

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when you've seen a bad one on
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hard it is to do a good one
because there's really two ways

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that you can go off the rails.
You could make it seem to like

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static like if you watch like
real old TV shows where there's

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a car chase, they don't have the
budget to really like Mount the

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camera on the cars or do a lot
of different.

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And so you'll just often find
like the cameras at the bottom

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of a hill and you watch the one
carve Zoom past and then they

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cut to the exact same shot.
But like, starting at the first

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point and you see the second car
come down the hill and there's

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50 of those shots strung
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And that's your car chase.
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The other way is like the
attention deficit way, which is

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too many Quick Cuts, where you
don't get a sense of the

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geography, everything is just
incoherent.

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This movie really beautifully
finds the middle ground between

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In those two where you are like
you may not know the layout of

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Atlanta Georgia.
But you understand what

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direction?
Every car is facing.

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You understand when baby is,
like pulling this incredible

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drift into a U-turn and the cops
can't make the turn, and they're

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crashing into things, and it
never seems chaotic.

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Even at the moments of the film
where the characters are

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experiencing a chaotic moment.
You as the viewer are always

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aware like subconscious.
SLI that there is like a master

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behind the camera putting this
stuff together.

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Yeah, the the way he
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and and there's like so much
action going on at once and your

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brain is struggling to keep up
with everything that's

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happening.
And I think a good scene that

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illustrates this is when they're
doing the final heist of the

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movie and he drives around the
back and he's sitting in the car

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and your brain, you know, the
plan, you know what buddy?

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And darling or doing, you know
what bats is doing and you see

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him sitting back there and he
shakes his head, no to try and

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keep that lady from going into
the bank and she gets the, the

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cop to come out.
And like the way he moves from

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that, like, little level of
tension to Jamie Foxx holding a

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gun to his head, telling him to
drive and then and then baby

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like crashing the car and
murdering Jamie Foxx.

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Like Like the way he builds the
tension in that scene and he

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tells you everything that's
supposed to happen and then

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shows how it all goes wrong.
And then after that it leads

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into this, I don't know like 10
minute long chase scene of the

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cops running after him him
driving away.

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It's epic.
Like I don't know if there's

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another word to describe it,
this movie is just epic.

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This is one of those movies and
this is not a reflection at all

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of what you've been saying so
far, but it's one of those

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Movies where as I'm watching it.
I think to myself Brad and I

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could probably talk about this
movie for two hours on end.

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And then we actually get behind
the microphone and I find that

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we just say the same three
things over and over and over

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you, don't amuse?
Yeah.

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Like how many times can you just
say this movie is awesome?

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Because like, that gets stale
really fast, but honestly, it's

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just one of the most purely
entertaining films.

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I've seen in the last 10 years.
Probably, you know, it's right

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up there in a similar way.
A with like a Mad Max Fury Road

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where it's this brilliantly
constructed action movie, that

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is a singular vision of its
director.

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Then I told you this right
before we hit record I don't

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know if I would consider this an
action movie.

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Like, it doesn't have those big
Hallmarks of what you think, you

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know, when you used to browse
the video store and you see

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action, and it was like 50 year
old Arnold Schwarzenegger in

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collateral damage or Judge
Dredd.

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Yeah, like any of those kind of
movies.

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It has some great Chase
sequence.

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And there's like one explosion
in the movie and that's pretty

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much it, but it's the way that
the action punctuates.

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The story that really does make
it one of the most perfectly

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constructed action, movies, I've
ever seen.

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Well, let's let's move on.
Then from talking about how just

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freaking amazing this movie is
and talk some specifics.

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I want to hear your thoughts on
the actors in this movie.

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Where do you want to start Bob?
Well, we're going to have to

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Wade through the Minefield that
Is cancellation corner here and

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let's just talk about the two
problematic people now.

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And again, we we've talked about
Kevin Spacey on this show before

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we've actually kind of steered
away from doing more Kevin

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Spacey films on the podcast
because as more details of his

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story have emerged, it's just
it's really hard to talk about.

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Oh, he's so good in this movie
knowing what's going on off

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camera?
And you know, for the purposes

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of this show, we are going to
stay.

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Trained to the to what we saw in
the movie and the performances

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of the actors.
But you know, we do acknowledge

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what's what's going on with both
of these two very problematic

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actors.
Weird that we don't condone

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anything that they may or may
not have been doing off camera

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and it sucks that we have to
make that disclaimer but its

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necessary.
I think Brad.

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Yeah I mean in the end every
single actor is a human being

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and some of them really suck as
human beings.

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And we can, we can observe the
fact that like yeah, They're

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great actor but a terrible human
being and I think it's okay to

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hold those two things intention
and recognize that like the very

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rare times we do a Kevin Spacey
movie we're probably going to

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give this disclaimer every time
to say hey like we're not down

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with what he does.
We're not down with the the type

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of person he has chosen to be
but uh, sure.

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Yeah, he did a great job in this
movie.

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I will say though, I thought he
was like just finding this like,

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Is just kind of being a chill.
Kevin Spacey roll.

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Yeah if we're going to start
with Spacey we might as well

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just kind of knock that out.
Now I'm with you I think that

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his character is purposely a
little bit.

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Schlubby like, they don't dress
him in really nicely fitting

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clothes and he looks a little
overweight and his hair is not

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perfectly.
You know, quaffed and it's like

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it's really interesting because
he's supposed to be this guy.

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That's like a major kind of
underground crime Lord.

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And you imagine he has like vast
sums of wealth.

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But you know, he's wearing
loose-fitting clothing and I

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actually really love that
decision by the director and

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Spacey acts it really.
Well, he's not going over the

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top.
He has some like clever little

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turns of phrase that are maybe
not the most well-written lines

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I've ever heard and don't
necessarily go with the

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character that much.
But I love that he's kind of the

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low-energy guy in the room,
because there are so many

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Personalities in that room at
all times that I Adding another

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one.
Another Corgi character to this

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Bunch would probably be one too
many so it's nice that they used

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that character to kind of keep
things grounded.

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Yeah, it's funny that you say,
low energy because on first

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glance, it feels like baby is
kind of the low energy person in

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the room but when you really
watch him, even though he barely

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says a word when he's in the
planning stages of the heists,

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he has this nervous energy, his
knee is always Moving.

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He's always like kind of bobbing
his head to whatever music he's

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listening to and he really does
bring this nervous energy to the

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room that I don't know.
I don't know if I would have

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that would have clicked for me
until you said it Bob that.

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Yeah, like Spacey is the low
energy person in the room

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there's a great shot.
One of my favorite shots in the

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whole movie, right, at the
beginning of the film, when

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you're first introduced to the
crew that pulls off the first

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Heist, and they go back to the
Rendezvous and Spacey is Doling

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out the money and you get an
idea of who Jon Hamm and ASA.

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Gonzales are and that they're
you know, they're making out in

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the corner.
You've got Jon Bernthal in there

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for like a hot second and he's
like the crazy hyper one that

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Jamie Foxx takes his place in
terms of being is like spiritual

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cousin in that movie and then
you've got a baby who's just

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essentially a mute and they're
all writing down the elevator

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together.
The shot is like from the point

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of view of the the inside
elevator doors, it so you've got

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Spacey right in the middle.
I got all the guys you know in

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the crew behind him and Spacey
just looks like a beaten down

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dad and he it halfway through
the ride on the elevator.

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He just breathes in this heavy
sigh and you're just like, oh

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yeah, man.
I get exactly what you're going

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for here.
He easily has like five

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children.
He's going exactly.

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That are all under the age of
six somehow.

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Well, and that's the vibe that
they're going for here is that

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he's basically babysitting all
these ridiculous.

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At ease and trying to get them
to pull something off without

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everyone, dying all the time.
And I think the unique thing

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about his character is that, by
the end of the film you realize,

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00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:16,700
like, he puts on this hard
persona, but he in the tiniest

446
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:21,300
way possible does kind of care
about baby and I like that they

447
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:26,400
don't make it this like massive
gesture of him like really going

448
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,200
over the top for him.
It's just kind of this casual

449
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,800
like yep, I was in love once.
Yeah.

450
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,900
Then boom.
Like there's no getting out of

451
00:25:33,908 --> 00:25:35,900
the situation.
So I might as well tell them to

452
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:39,600
run, right?
Like it's just a perfect way to

453
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,200
play his character Brad since
we're talking about the fact

454
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,900
that Kevin Spacey is persona,
non grata.

455
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:48,500
If you had to replace him with
someone in this movie.

456
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:51,800
And because and I don't usually
ask this question about

457
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,900
replacing actors, but given who
we're talking about, I thought

458
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:58,400
it was fair game and also
because he is kind of the low

459
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,800
energy one in the bunch.
I don't think Spacey gives a bad

460
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,900
performance at all.
In fact, I think it's quietly.

461
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:06,100
One of the best performances in
the movie because it's hard to

462
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:10,100
pull that off.
But I also think that you could

463
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:13,400
probably slot a couple different
actors in here and it would work

464
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800
just as well.
I don't know if he would be

465
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,500
good, the role would change a
lot.

466
00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:23,800
If he was able to play low
energy, I would love to see Jack

467
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,700
Nicholson in that role.
So interesting.

468
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:30,900
See, I feel like Jack has too
much of a, too much of a

469
00:26:30,908 --> 00:26:32,300
Persona.
You know what I mean?

470
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:35,300
Like, even when he's being low
energy, he's still Jack.

471
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,200
Yep.
I was thinking for a while,

472
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,100
maybe Tom Hanks, but even that's
like, there's too much of a

473
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,300
movie star Persona that gets
carried into the movie.

474
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,900
Mmm, you know, who this man is
Danny DeVito, maybe Danny

475
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:55,800
DeVito, you know who?
I honestly think would be really

476
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,700
good though.
Mm, it's almost like this part

477
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:00,800
was written with this actor in
mind, then they just chose

478
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,700
Spacey instead.
But like Tommy Lee Jones I think

479
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,400
you know when you think about
his character in The Fugitive or

480
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,600
in No Country for Old Men, it's
like that's this character and

481
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,400
he has that kind of Rye sardonic
quality to him to.

482
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,400
I think this would be a really
good Tommy, Lee Jones

483
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,300
performance.
Yeah, I think that's a winner

484
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:21,600
man.
Good call.

485
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,900
And he also isn't as far as we
know an evil human being.

486
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:27,100
I came up.
It's a double weight win-win.

487
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,800
Okay.
How about Ansel Elgort the star

488
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,600
of this movie?
I, I really liked Ansel Elgort

489
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,100
as an up-and-coming actor, and
it's a bummer to hear the

490
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:39,100
allegations that have come out
against him.

491
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:43,600
And, you know, last year he was
in West Side Story and was not a

492
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,400
fixture on the promotional
circuit for that movie at all.

493
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,800
And actually, with caught quite
a lot of flack for that film as

494
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,600
being like, the worst part of,
it actually really liked what he

495
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,000
did in that movie, but he's
doing something kind of similar

496
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,900
here where he is.
Responsible for playing a

497
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,800
character.
Like you said, that seems really

498
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,400
low energy on the surface and
having to find ways to infuse

499
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:10,600
energy under the surface.
And I really do think he does a

500
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,500
great job in this movie.
Yeah.

501
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:17,900
I think that the character of
Joe the, the older deaf man that

502
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:23,700
he cares for is the most
important part of grounding him

503
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:28,600
that when he rushes back into
the apartment to find, Joe, you

504
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:34,800
can feel the panic in his soul
like the the desperation that he

505
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,700
has in that moment is
communicated so beautifully by

506
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:43,500
what Elgort does in that moment
and so I think it's moments like

507
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:47,300
that that he really shines and
it gives layers to his

508
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:49,200
performance throughout the rest
of the film.

509
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:53,500
I also think that he does a
phenomenal job of being like, an

510
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:59,100
older teenage guy who's just
really acted to a girl and does

511
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:03,800
not know how to like flirt with
her or talk to her.

512
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,700
He's just totally tongue-tied
and it's adorable.

513
00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:11,600
And like I just thought that
the, the chemistry between him

514
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,800
and Lily James, which, you know,
they don't have a ton of time on

515
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,000
screen together was just really,
it was just really beautiful and

516
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,400
I really liked it.
Yeah, they're super Charming.

517
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,800
They do have.
Great chemistry before we go to

518
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,000
break.
I want to keep talking just a

519
00:29:25,008 --> 00:29:27,400
little bit about Ansel Elgort
and then we can get to the rest

520
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,300
of Cast in the second half of
the episode.

521
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:34,500
But recently, I watched the
original Top Gun before I went

522
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,800
and saw top gun Maverick and I
had never seen it before Brad,

523
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:40,400
man.
Yeah, and I love a really, it

524
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,100
was a really great movie.
Tom Cruise was 24 years old when

525
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:48,200
he starred in that me, man.
And then a year later, he goes,

526
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,500
and he makes a movie with Martin
Scorsese called The Color of

527
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:54,500
Money, which is a sequel to the
1961 movie, The Hustler with

528
00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:57,400
Paul Newman and I've heard of
that movie.

529
00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:00,600
She great movie and in watching,
both of those movies, back to

530
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,800
back.
They're both really great

531
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,300
Hallmarks of early Cruise where
he is like his charm and his

532
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:11,000
Cockiness are what he's like
banking on.

533
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,000
But even then the cool thing
about watching.

534
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,600
Those movies, back to back in
like a two-day span was finding

535
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,500
the little subtle ways that the
character in The Color of Money

536
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:26,500
is played versus, you know,
Maverick in Top Gun because

537
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:29,400
they're both cocky.
They're both Trina overly

538
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,700
Charming guys but one of them
has a much more like dark heart

539
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:38,000
behind it and cruise does such a
good job of finding really

540
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,600
subtle ways to portray that.
And similarly, like, Ansel

541
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,800
Elgort in this movie is really,
really similar to the Ansel

542
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,600
Elgort.
You see in West Side Story,

543
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,700
playing Tony he's quiet he may
not be the brightest guy, you

544
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:54,900
know?
And again this movie has

545
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:57,400
similarities, we're like he's
singing and dancing all over the

546
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:01,300
It's too, right.
But I think it's so cool to see

547
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:04,600
an actor play.
What seems like they

548
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,900
pigeon-holed roll and find
really, really subtle ways of,

549
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:12,800
you know, Shades of Grey, I
guess, or different shades to

550
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,700
those performances.
Yeah, man.

551
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:18,400
I think that I will say not
having seen the the new West

552
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,200
Side Story.
I think that he has a lot of

553
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:27,300
nuance in his performance and
the way he talks to Jamie Foxx,

554
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,300
It really brings it out.
I think that Jamie being the

555
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:36,200
spectacular actor that he is,
was like a perfect.

556
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,800
I don't, it's like a Paul Newman
and Tom Cruise.

557
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Like the older actor who has won
an Oscar showing the younger

558
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,500
guy, the ropes.
And I, the scenes were Jamie,

559
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:51,000
and Ansel are together are just
electric, and when he grabs,

560
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,100
Jamie Foxx's gun and holds him
back from going up, you know,

561
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:58,900
essentially to intimidate.
Lily James has character.

562
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,000
There's just so much tension in
that moment and an cell has just

563
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,300
this determined look in his eyes
of like, there are very few

564
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:10,200
things.
I will fight for, but this is

565
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,000
one of them.
All right, man.

566
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:14,700
So we've talked about the two
problematic actors in the movie,

567
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:17,200
both of whom give really good
performances here.

568
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,100
When we come back from our
break, we'll break down the rest

569
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,900
of the cast and talk a little
bit more about director Edgar

570
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:24,800
Wright.
But before we get there, Brad,

571
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,900
it is time to drink some
whiskey.

572
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,000
What We tried this paper and 10
man.

573
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,800
I love whiskies from the spay so
I'm really excited for it.

574
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:40,600
Bob some whiskey Nation.
Do you ever think about Awards

575
00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:43,500
course he do you drink whiskey
and watch movies which means

576
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:46,200
that, you know, that nothing is
validated until a group of

577
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,600
random people say hey we love
what you're doing.

578
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579
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,900
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580
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581
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582
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583
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They've been voted the best in

584
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585
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586
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590
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591
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595
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All right, everybody.

596
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,700
Today, we are going to be
drinking Spade burnt.

597
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:52,800
N a return to the speyside
region for us.

598
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,100
Bob that I'm really excited
about.

599
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,600
Yeah, me too, man.
I've been kind of hit or miss on

600
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,800
Space side, single malts.
We liked some of the a burl

601
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,200
hours and we've tried a couple
more since then, like the names

602
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,900
are escaping me right now.
But the Alberta Lars were kind

603
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:10,300
of up and down.
For me, I liked the higher like

604
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:13,800
ABV ones and then the lower
ones, this one Drinking today,

605
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,500
thus paper and 10 is a very
popular speyside, but it's only

606
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,900
clocking in at 80 proof Brad.
So I'm already like, is this

607
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:24,699
going to be a low point in space
side for me?

608
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,800
Yeah, I mean, it might be Bob, I
will say, if you don't enjoy it,

609
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:33,199
you'll be excited to find out
how much it would cost you to

610
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,900
buy it in the state of Ohio, but
we'll get to that later right

611
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:38,000
now.
We're just going to say that

612
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,000
this is a 10 year, aged single
malt whisky from the spay

613
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,600
region.
And it is aged in X American Oak

614
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,900
bourbon casks, as well as X
Sherry, casks.

615
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:54,400
All right, so we recently got
some feedback from a listener

616
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,800
that their favorite way to enjoy
our whiskey reviews is When Brad

617
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,100
comes in with notes and Bob
drinks it live and that's

618
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,700
exactly what we're doing today.
I have like literally had no

619
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:08,600
exposure to this whiskey.
Before this very moment, I'm

620
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,000
opening it up now, I'm going to
pour it out in my glass Brad.

621
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,900
I'm vamping a little So can you,
can you give me your nosing

622
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:18,400
notes on this?
Yeah, man, I as I got into the

623
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,300
nose here, I really liked it a
lot.

624
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:25,900
There's some creamsicle kind of
like a creamy orange Vibe going

625
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:29,400
on, you get a decent amount of
that malted barley.

626
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:33,900
And then, at the back end, it
was almost like a sweet mint,

627
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:38,600
like, you know, the which gum
brand is it is it orbit that has

628
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,000
like the sweet mint gum?
It kind of reminds me.

629
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,500
Me of that and I really like it
a lot.

630
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:49,000
It's not incredibly complex, but
there's a lot of nice flavors

631
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,200
going on.
I give it an 8 out of 10 Bob.

632
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,500
Yeah, I like this a lot.
It reminds me a lot of English

633
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:58,300
toffee on the nose, but when
like some sort of like, a honey

634
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:01,300
under like undergirding all
that, it's much brighter than

635
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:04,900
like a dark toffee note, but
that's definitely there.

636
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:07,000
I'm really digging this on the
nose.

637
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:08,800
I think I'm going to give it an
8 out of 10.

638
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,000
It has some really nice light
fruity.

639
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,900
Almost, I Whiskey type notes
with a little bit of that Scotch

640
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:20,400
kind of funk.
And, and a little bit of smoke

641
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,500
on this too.
And then that really great

642
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,700
toffee Underneath It.
All Pretty complex Bradford and

643
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:29,100
only in 80 proof whiskey.
So yeah, I'm an 8 out of 10 Bob,

644
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:31,600
the longer we do this, the more
I really want to create like a

645
00:36:31,607 --> 00:36:35,600
soundboard.
We're so we're almost like a 90s

646
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,500
radio station that anytime you
say fungi just want to hit a

647
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:41,700
button and be like it's got the
funk.

648
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,200
And just like just play like the
Seinfeld base under me for a.

649
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,300
Yeah.
Oh man.

650
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:50,800
Bob getting into the palette
here.

651
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,300
It's really light and Airy.
There's some orange zest going

652
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:58,100
on with a decent amount of
honey.

653
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:01,800
And there's like, a few kind of
floral notes happening.

654
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,900
The the mint kind of drops away
and turns into this floral Aroma

655
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:10,000
on your, on your tongue.
It definitely drops off a little

656
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,400
bit from the nose but still Is a
really enjoyable experience.

657
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,500
I'll give it a 7 out of 10 on
the taste.

658
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,500
Oh, I like this a lot.
It's okay.

659
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,400
So I'll say this, it's a flawed
whiskey, but I like it a lot

660
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,800
like it.
Um, I don't know how to explain

661
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,800
it if I could like draw a map of
the different zones of my

662
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,500
tongue.
Like if you could take your

663
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:34,800
tongue and divide it into like
nine regions, right?

664
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Like three in the front through
the middle, through the back.

665
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:38,800
This is like Hunger Game
districts.

666
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,900
Yes, yes.
This only hit the middle.

667
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:43,800
Of my tongue, the whole way
back.

668
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,900
I don't know how to explain it.
Like I'm only tasting things on

669
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:51,100
the middle of my tongue and it's
really really sweet.

670
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,000
You get a little bit of alcohol
like in the mid palate and then

671
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,500
it kind of disappears again and
gets almost watery towards the

672
00:37:56,508 --> 00:38:00,000
back end, but that's where you
get just a wisp of smokiness,

673
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,200
and then it's like, black black,
black coffee.

674
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,800
And it's really interesting
because on the front, it tastes

675
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,800
almost like a flavored coffee
creamer.

676
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,900
And then in the back you get
like almost espresso.

677
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:13,200
It's really cool.
It's like Drinking a coffee.

678
00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:15,900
That is also infused with Scotch
whiskey.

679
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,300
Like I'm super digging this
right now.

680
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:20,300
I'm going to give this an eight
and a half on the flavor.

681
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,400
Dude.
Let's go, man, for me, the

682
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,100
finish it finished with a little
bit more power than the pallet

683
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:33,600
had some Oak, and almost like a
cardamom kind of comes through a

684
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,400
little bit of spice there, but
there's still that continuing

685
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,000
honeyed sweetness that I got
throughout the entire

686
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,700
experience.
I am a big fan of this.

687
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:46,300
I'll give it an 8 out of 10 on
the Finish.

688
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,700
Yeah, it's much more grassy on
the Finish than anywhere else.

689
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,700
It's not like I wouldn't call it
like Pine or anything like that.

690
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:57,400
It just kind of has like a nice
soft earthiness to it.

691
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,200
That isn't overpowering.
Like this would be a really good

692
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,200
entry point into the world of
scotch.

693
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200
I think it offers a lot of
flavors that are present on

694
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,900
many, many scotches, but just in
a much more pleasant way.

695
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:13,800
Man, I really like this bread.
I know it's 80 proof like and it

696
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,100
doesn't stack up to some of the
more like high-proof you know

697
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:21,300
well-aged ones we've ever had.
But for what it's trying to be

698
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,100
this is a darn good whiskey.
I think I'm going to give it an

699
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:27,400
eight and a half on the Finish.
Yeah and then we jump into

700
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,500
balance and value as far as
balance goes.

701
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,200
I think that it's a little more
impressive on the front end than

702
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,300
the rest of the experience.
But overall for what you're

703
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:42,100
getting at a You know, 80 proof,
whiskey.

704
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,900
I think it's a really nice
balance, I'll give it a 7 out of

705
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:49,900
10 when I look at the space
side, scotches that we've had so

706
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:51,400
far.
So we've had a burl hours.

707
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,700
We've had at least one McAllen
we've had, at least, I think we

708
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:57,800
have for Glenn live.
It's so this is at least the

709
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,400
fourth Distillery, we've tried
in the speyside region.

710
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:04,500
I would really like to have more
from this Distillery and see if

711
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:07,500
this flavor profile carries
forward, I think this is a

712
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:09,900
spectacularly.
Well, balanced whiskey.

713
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:13,500
It's definitely watered down and
I think if you're used to

714
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,100
drinking something with a little
more complexity or a little more

715
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:20,500
of a punch, this might be a
disappointment in that way, but

716
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:24,100
when it, when it just comes to
the balance of things, they

717
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:26,200
handle this really, really,
well, I'll give it an 8 out of

718
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,500
10.
And when we get into value Bob,

719
00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:30,700
your socks are going to be blown
off, man.

720
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:38,000
Because this incredible whiskey
can be purchased for $27 in the

721
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,100
state of Ohio.
I like this a lot, man.

722
00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:45,000
An especially at 27 bucks.
So the last kind of cheap scotch

723
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,900
that we did, if I can call it,
that was Cutty Sark which was

724
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:50,900
like 15 bucks, this is
definitely better than Cutty

725
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:55,200
Sark and I feel like sometimes
we, we hype up Cheap whiskey, so

726
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,300
much that people will like go
out and buy them and then

727
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:59,900
they'll be like, I'm trying.
I'm trying it and it's like well

728
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:03,500
dude, okay like please try it
but also remember it's a fifteen

729
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:04,800
dollar Scotch, you know what I
mean?

730
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,000
Like it's not gonna be the best
scotch you've ever had and I'll

731
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,100
say that about this.
This is not going to be the best

732
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,000
guy.
You've ever had, it's $27.

733
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,900
It is $27 for a reason, but it's
a darn good $27.

734
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,200
Mmm.
Know what you're getting into

735
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,300
for sure.
You're not going to be finding a

736
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:25,700
gem, like a Hidden Gem, that all
the distilleries and people in

737
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:29,700
the world just forgot about and
somehow it got all the way mark

738
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,300
down to twenty seven dollars and
it should be two thousand

739
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:35,300
dollars.
No, it's a $27 Scotch.

740
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:38,600
But again at that price point
I'm given this an eight and a

741
00:41:38,607 --> 00:41:41,200
half out of ten on value.
Yeah, I'm at nine out of ten

742
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,000
Bob, I think that this is an
incredible value in the world of

743
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,700
single-malt scotches and it
brings me to a total of 39 out

744
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:53,200
of 50.
I'm going to 41 and a half out

745
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,700
of 50 Brad.
So that brings us to an 80.5 or

746
00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:03,100
a 40-point 25 out of 50.
Hey, this is in rarefied are

747
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:05,100
getting over the 40, mark for
us.

748
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:08,300
It's a no-brainer for me in
terms of recommending that you

749
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:11,100
buy a bottle of it.
I probably I wouldn't recommend

750
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,400
trying it at the bar just
because you're probably going to

751
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,500
spend.
I don't know seven eight dollars

752
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:19,000
for a poor This and like it's
just by the bottle dude.

753
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,300
Just plug down 27 bucks.
Yeah, this is a really nice

754
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:26,000
affordable single malt that
would be.

755
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,300
I would I would just go on a
limb and say this is probably

756
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:34,900
the best introduction to the
world of scotch that you can

757
00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:37,600
get.
I'm I won't go that far because

758
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,000
I'm pretty sure I've said that
exact thing about like five

759
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,800
different When scotches on this
podcast live happened, Bob, so

760
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,500
I'm gonna say it now.
I really like this as a pairing

761
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:51,900
with baby driver to like I mean,
it's an import from Europe,

762
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,800
like, Edgar Wright's, but it's
got, its got the heart of the

763
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,300
Working, Man.
You know what I mean?

764
00:42:56,300 --> 00:43:00,700
Like, it's a great.
Great, great $27 Scotch.

765
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,700
I am super pumped to talk about
the crowd-pleasing whiskey and

766
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:07,800
the crowd-pleasing movie that
we've got on hand this week.

767
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,600
So what do you say?
We get back into talking about

768
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,600
baby.
Let's get to it.

769
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:15,900
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770
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And man, oh, man, I was blown

771
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:21,900
away by their product.
Once we received it, I am

772
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:25,500
talking about manscaped.
Now, if you're like me at all,

773
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,000
you probably seen the manscaped
ads and kind of Wonder to

774
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,800
yourself like, do I really need
like some sort of specialty

775
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,300
trimmer to take care of my
downstairs business.

776
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,400
And I've just got to be honest.
I was absolutely wrong there

777
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,900
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for punto and I gotta say, it is

778
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:45,200
the Rolls-Royce of trimmers.
It's got a ceramic blade.

779
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,800
That reduces grooming mishaps, a
wireless charging base and an

780
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,900
awesome flashlight.
That keeps things illuminated

781
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:53,700
while you're working and beyond
all that it's waterproof.

782
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:56,700
This thing is really changing
the game when it comes to below

783
00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:59,300
the belt hygiene.
Now this is just me talking

784
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:02,700
about my experience but this
trimmer really is Way Beyond

785
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:05,300
anything I've ever used to keep
things neat.

786
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:09,100
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787
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:12,000
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788
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,800
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789
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790
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,200
All right, everybody that was
space.

791
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,300
A burnt n.
A phenomenal whiskey to be

792
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:33,100
paired with a phenomenal movie
Bob absolutely man.

793
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:35,200
Hey Brad, I don't know.
Did we mention this?

794
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:43,300
It's $27, it's 27 bucks.
Like that's just going by a

795
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:48,600
blah, leave this and rent baby
driver on like Amazon for less

796
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,800
than $30.
Yeah, what a night.

797
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:52,700
Yeah.
A heck of a night, man,

798
00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:56,400
especially if you drink the
entire bottle, please don't do

799
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,100
that.
Yeah, please don't even if

800
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:01,000
please, don't you in a friend.
That's a lot of whiskey.

801
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000
All right.
Brad, it's time for me to go to

802
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,800
my weekly, Slaughter to fax in a
falsehood.

803
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:12,800
I am doing horrific lie, bad.
What am I am now, this is

804
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:19,200
episode 10, and I hit last week.
I think you might be at four.

805
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,400
I think I'm at four and five
because we reversed the call on

806
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,300
the one week.
So I have the opportunity to

807
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:30,300
pull myself up to 500 this week.
Yeah, you're coming back, man.

808
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:32,600
You're doing great.
All right, I'm proud of you.

809
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,800
It's a battle.
So this segment is called two

810
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,100
facts and a falsehood Brad is
going to throw out three

811
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:42,600
supposed facts at me, one of
which he has completely made up,

812
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,300
and it's my job to figure out
which one of these is bogus.

813
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:49,100
All right.
Fax number one.

814
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,000
Easy by The Commodores.
Have you ever heard it Bob?

815
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,500
I sure have.
Okay, just making sure it was

816
00:45:56,500 --> 00:46:00,300
included in the film solely
because director Edgar Wright

817
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:02,800
asked Ansel Elgort in the
casting process.

818
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,600
If there are any songs, he like
just absolutely Knew by heart

819
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,500
and this was the song that he
brought up and tried to your

820
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:12,700
loved it and said it's going in
the movie.

821
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:16,600
Fax number two, Edgar Wright
refused.

822
00:46:16,700 --> 00:46:19,700
To hire any English actors for
the movie.

823
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,600
Mostly due to his due to a
desire that he didn't want to be

824
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,100
known as like an English
director, who always hires some

825
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:31,300
English actors.
Okay, fact, number 3, Barbra

826
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:34,700
Streisand.
She actually experienced

827
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:39,400
tinnitus herself and it was the
basis for a scene in the movie

828
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,000
when Jamie Foxx's character had
to say, do I look like, I know

829
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,500
and effing thing about Barbara
effing, And the crazy thing is

830
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:54,000
that Streisand is actually close
friends with Jamie Foxx in real

831
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,500
life.
Edgar Wright was worried about

832
00:46:56,500 --> 00:47:01,000
it about how she would react to
this, not knowing that fox was

833
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,800
close friends with her and fox
responded by saying, don't worry

834
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,200
Barbara's Gangsta.
Oh man.

835
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,800
That woman was so long that I
have to believe that it's true,

836
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,700
or maybe I'm writing an or
McDonald joke for you.

837
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,600
That's true.
All I can think about through

838
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,500
most of that, was that scene in
licorice pizza?

839
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:25,600
Where Brad Bradley Cooper
talking?

840
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,000
We were talking with the kid
about how it's pronounced rice

841
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,600
and, and that's tries and yep,
that's really funny.

842
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,100
Oh man, Bradley Cooper
responsible for my favorite

843
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:39,000
movie line of last year and it's
in licorice pizza.

844
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,200
When he like, Rose trash can
through a plate glass window and

845
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,400
then immediately turns around
and there's two pretty girls and

846
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,900
he follows them and says, hey,
do you girls like peanut?

847
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:52,500
Butter sandwiches?
My favorite line, my favorite

848
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:55,400
line in the movie.
Oh man.

849
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,600
All right.
Number one remind me what?

850
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,900
Number one was easy by The
Commodores.

851
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:04,800
Oh yeah I was in the film
because Ansel Elgort knew it by

852
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,600
heart and number two was the he
refused to hire any English

853
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,400
actors.
I feel like to could be a A

854
00:48:10,408 --> 00:48:13,000
really good trap and that
there's like someone I'm not

855
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,900
thinking of that's actually
British.

856
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:19,700
I think Lily James is British,
is it?

857
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:23,100
She was in that movie yesterday
I'm going to say to the

858
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:26,100
falsehood and just Bank on the
fact that I think Lily James

859
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:29,900
British, Bob, you are 100%
correct.

860
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:35,400
Lily, James is British, yes.
Ah, look at you go, man, man.

861
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,200
I'm back to 500.
You're absolutely killing it

862
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,300
Robert.
So let's talk about Lily James.

863
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:42,600
I think that's a great segue
into talking about her.

864
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:46,300
Her character in this movie, is
kind of a nothing character.

865
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:49,900
And yet, her character is
everything to the movie.

866
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,400
Like she is the engine.
That makes, This movie go again,

867
00:48:53,400 --> 00:49:01,000
pardon the car pun, but she's
just there to be like a, I don't

868
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,500
know what the word is as the
supportive girlfriend, like the

869
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:06,200
overly supportive girlfriend,
the girlfriend that makes you

870
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,100
wonder.
Like, why are you still going

871
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:10,100
through with this?
This seems like a bad idea just

872
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:15,000
walk away and yet she's so
charming and she has such great

873
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,100
chemistry with Ansel, Elgort
that you buy every second of it.

874
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:22,500
And it really is testimony to
how great of an Actress, Lily.

875
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:26,200
James is, yeah, I think that one
of the few things about the

876
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:32,100
movie for me was, like, I kept
teetering on the edge of like

877
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:35,200
they do a really good job of
trying to make this movie as

878
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,000
realistic as possible.
Even though we all kind of know

879
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,100
that like hise on this level
don't really happen anymore, but

880
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:45,500
like, you can suspend your
belief and with that, but the

881
00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:49,500
way she just Falls for him and
is like, yep, I'll wait five

882
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:50,800
years for you to get out of
prison.

883
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,100
Like, I'm in love with You like,
there's a little bit of

884
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:57,900
suspension of belief there.
That requires a lot more faith,

885
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:03,700
but Lily James, just sells it.
And I think that you're right in

886
00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:09,200
saying that she is kind of the
grounding of this film because

887
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,900
without her in baby's life like
without her, as a character, you

888
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:21,000
100% are going to see baby fall
into the life of crime.

889
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,300
Like, at the The start of the
movie.

890
00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:27,200
I think one of my favorite parts
of the film is that at the start

891
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,000
of the movie?
You see baby like who is

892
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,900
unwilling and like flinching
about violence, like it's not

893
00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:37,400
even like people dying.
He just sees a woman being like

894
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,200
shouted down to the ground with
a gun in her face and you can

895
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,400
see it's bothering him and by
the end of the film, he has

896
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,600
turned into Jamie Foxx and he
murders Jon Hamm and he's

897
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,800
shooting people and he's just
the way.

898
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,000
Sits in the car.
The look on his face.

899
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,600
You're like, oh he has
transformed into the thing, he

900
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,500
kept telling Joe and Lily, he
wouldn't turn into and yet he

901
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:08,400
ends up turning himself in he
ends up writing his life because

902
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,900
of Lily James and I just love
the way his character Arc goes

903
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:18,700
into the depths and yet is
pulled back out by Deborah in

904
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:21,300
the media.
All right, man, we have I think

905
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:24,900
two more main actors to talk
about before we wrap this up

906
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,200
today and that is Jamie Foxx and
Jon Hamm.

907
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:30,300
Let's start with Jamie Foxx
because we've already been

908
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:32,400
talking about him.
A bit Jimmie.

909
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,900
Foxx has an interesting actor to
me because, you know, he wins an

910
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:38,300
Oscar for the movie Ray way in
which he's fantastic.

911
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:41,800
He's and you love the fact that
he won that Oscar.

912
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,000
There's nobody else that you're
that should have won it right

913
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,900
below.
Nobody, nobody that year.

914
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,200
I really love him in Django
Unchained and I think that

915
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,800
Tarantino really unlocked
something in Jamie Foxx that's

916
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,700
always been always kind of Nod
at me a little bit and I think

917
00:51:57,700 --> 00:52:03,900
that it's when Jamie Foxx is
trying to be cool on screen.

918
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:07,700
He comes across as a guy who's
trying to be cool on screen.

919
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:11,100
Like there are certain line
readings that he does where it's

920
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:14,900
like very obvious that he's like
trying to flex a little bit and

921
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:17,100
I think that's when he's
actually at his worst as an

922
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:20,200
actor.
Because the lines that he's not

923
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,800
trying to like you know, put
extra oomph into, are the ones

924
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,600
that work the best.
He's very, very threatening in

925
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,300
this movie and he works as a
villain.

926
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:33,900
So so well like 90% of the time
and I just think it's such a

927
00:52:33,908 --> 00:52:36,800
it's so funny to me because I
just saw this clip the other day

928
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,500
where Jamie Foxx was talking
about his first day on set on

929
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:44,400
Django and how he was trying to
read the lines like a cool guy

930
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,700
and it's so funny like the way
he says it to he's like I walked

931
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:49,900
in there.
I was like Tibet, Tibet Tibet

932
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:53,300
Tibet, he's just like that.
Yeah, and he says, Tarantino

933
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:56,100
called cut and like took him
into the trailer and just goes,

934
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,800
what the fuck was that?
And like like lights into him

935
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,100
and tells him.
Like this guy is a slave.

936
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:05,500
This guy is uneducated.
He is not going to have that

937
00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:07,400
sense of swagger that you're
trying to bring to this.

938
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,700
At least not yet.
And I think that's like the best

939
00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:13,000
advice you can give Jamie Foxx
as an actor.

940
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:17,300
He has it in him to be an
all-time great and I think

941
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:21,100
sometimes He's just like, I'm
going to turn my swag on and

942
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:23,200
that's when he's at his worst as
an actor.

943
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,800
But here's the thing though,
this entire movie is asking him

944
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,600
to be the epitome of swagger and
like self-confidence.

945
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,800
So like how do you feel about
him in this movie?

946
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:36,200
Well that's what I'm saying.
I feel like there are times in

947
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:41,700
the movie where he just embodies
being a threatening villain so

948
00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:43,900
well.
And then there's times where you

949
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:47,000
can tell that he looked in the
mirror and said, all right be

950
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,000
threatening And then also the
moments where he's the least

951
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,900
threatening to me.
Hmm, that's interesting.

952
00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:58,100
At the very least, I think that
Jamie Foxx had like in the the

953
00:53:58,100 --> 00:54:03,500
Hall of unexpected movie deaths.
I think that his is hands down

954
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,100
one of the greatest.
I like you sitting in that

955
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:08,900
theater with you guys because I
think like all four of us

956
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:13,000
collectively at the same time
we're just like, oh yeah I guess

957
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,000
what, it really caught us
off-guard man.

958
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,500
Yeah, I mean it.
It's up there for me with, like,

959
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,900
The Departed, you know, Leo
getting shot.

960
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:27,800
Like there's just certain deaths
in movies that are so they just

961
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,600
take you by surprise and the way
he kills him is just Poetic

962
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,300
Justice and absolutely stop.
I'm totally there for it, man.

963
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:39,600
On the other side, you've got
Jon Hamm, who is an actor who

964
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,400
has been lauded for the last
decade because of his portrayal

965
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,500
of Don Draper in Mad Men.
I don't feel like he's never

966
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:50,900
quite found.
Is footing in movies, 100% like

967
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,600
he's really good in everything
he does but I've never walked

968
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,800
away from a Jon Hamm movie
performance.

969
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,400
Like wow, that should have been
up for an Oscar and I can't

970
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,700
quite put my finger on it, but
it's almost the same thing with

971
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:05,100
that.
I just said about Jamie Foxx but

972
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:09,000
like almost magnified here where
I really loved Jon Hamm's

973
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,900
performance in the first two
thirds of this movie and then

974
00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:15,400
when he supposed to just become
like this mindless killer

975
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,400
seeking Vengeance at the end of
the movie.

976
00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:20,900
I Didn't buy any of that for a
second like it still worked

977
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:23,900
because the movie was so, well
made and the plot mechanics were

978
00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:28,400
already in motion, but I don't
know if Jon Hamm is the guy that

979
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,600
I would immediately think of is
like, oh, what a cool bad guy in

980
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,700
this movie.
We'll the interesting thing is

981
00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:37,600
that they set him up as like
almost a bit of like an

982
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:43,400
underworld Father Figure to to
and sell like like yes doc you

983
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,200
know played by Spacey somewhat
takes that role on but he's so

984
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,800
cold and Stand that, you never
believe that.

985
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:52,600
Whereas, like Jon Hamm sits with
him and listens to music with

986
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,600
him.
And, you know, his wife, / lover

987
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,300
is like also, like, kind to him
and there's and then there's the

988
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:03,700
just the position of like, but
you have to everything up and

989
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:07,800
I'm going to murder you now.
And I for me, man, I thought ham

990
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,400
was terrifying at the end of the
movie.

991
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:14,200
I Bought 100 percent his
transformation into the bowl.

992
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:16,700
Like, I love how at the start of
the movie.

993
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:18,600
This is a comment on Edgar.
Right?

994
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:24,200
It feels like when when baby is
changing channels on the

995
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,600
television and it goes through
like Monsters Inc, and a few

996
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,000
other scenes, all of those
scenes kind of come true in

997
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,000
different aspects of the movie
and the one that comes through

998
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,700
for Jon Hamm, is he turns into
the bowl in the arena?

999
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:40,500
Like once he sees red, he's not
turning back.

1000
00:56:40,700 --> 00:56:42,200
Yep.
And I would, I thought he was

1001
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,100
terrifying at the end of the
film.

1002
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:47,400
Well, I'm really glad that we
came out in different places on

1003
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,800
both of those performances.
I still think they work for the

1004
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,900
most part.
But like, if there is anything

1005
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:54,900
that kind of pulled me out of
the film, just a little bit, it

1006
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:57,400
was definitely those two actors
Brad.

1007
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,300
As we kind of wind down our
Edgar Wright retrospective.

1008
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:03,300
Do you have any final thoughts
on Edgar Wright's?

1009
00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:06,900
I mean, how would you rank the
three movies that we watched?

1010
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,900
Where does this?
How does this stack up?

1011
00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:10,500
Especially against Shaun of the
Dead?

1012
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:12,300
Yeah.
Like, what have you learned

1013
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:17,600
about Edgar Wright?
I think that Edgar Wright has an

1014
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:23,600
incredible talent for movement.
Like the the way he draws the

1015
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,100
audience forward through, the
story is so kinetic and like

1016
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,700
just raw and you feel the movie
just drawing you forward.

1017
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:38,300
Like, honestly, the way you talk
about Goodfellas is kind of the

1018
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:43,200
way I feel about Edgar Wright
that there's an energy to the

1019
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,600
editing and the Cinematography
that just keeps me at the edge

1020
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,700
of my seat and keeps me
interested.

1021
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:52,200
All right Brad.
It's almost time for final

1022
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,700
scores, but I want to throw a
curveball in here.

1023
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:58,400
I think we should start a new
segment on the film in whiskey

1024
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,200
podcast new segment and I'll do
it.

1025
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,400
We'll do it very quickly, right
before, final scores every week.

1026
00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:07,900
And this is going to be the
first installment, and I'm going

1027
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:09,800
to call it this because we're a
whiskey podcast.

1028
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,400
I'm going to call it.
I'll make it a double and it's

1029
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,800
not going to be whiskey related.
It's gonna be, it's gonna be

1030
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,200
here's the premise.
If you had to make this movie, a

1031
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,700
double feature with something
else, what would you pair it up

1032
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:25,900
with?
Like it like a drive-in?

1033
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:28,400
Yeah, evening.
Yeah.

1034
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:32,700
I will say one of the best
double features I've ever seen

1035
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:38,000
was the first the they're not
called Minions.

1036
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,700
What's the first the despicable
meaning?

1037
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,100
Yeah it was Despicable Me paired
with Toy Story 3.

1038
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:46,100
Hmm.
And I was like that was a heck

1039
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:48,900
of a because you know Despicable
Me I know you don't care for it

1040
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:52,900
but like it's a pretty good
animated film and then Toy Story

1041
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:55,300
3 following it up was
phenomenal.

1042
00:58:55,700 --> 00:58:58,400
Fun fact when we were on
vacation it rained one day so I

1043
00:58:58,408 --> 00:59:01,400
took My son to the movies and he
wanted to see minions the rise

1044
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,400
of grew.
Yeah, I was like, you know what,

1045
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,700
fine, I enjoyed the hell out of
that movie.

1046
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:12,400
So hey, so that's Brad's vote,
baby driver and minions.

1047
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,200
The rise of group.
There's rise of Peru.

1048
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:18,100
No, I man.
So what, so the question is,

1049
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:19,700
what movie would I pair with
this?

1050
00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:21,800
If I was sitting down in the
evening and watching a movie

1051
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,900
back-to-back?
Yeah like I'll give you mine.

1052
00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:26,300
I think that if especially for
trying to like theme them up

1053
00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:28,300
together.
I could go two ways.

1054
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:33,400
And one would be to go the Jon
Hamm route and take this movie

1055
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,000
and then a movie, he did.
Just a couple years later, that

1056
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,500
was called bad times at the El
Royale, which is one of my

1057
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:42,600
absolute favorite movies of the
last five ish years.

1058
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:46,900
And it's like, it's kind of like
a Tarantino movie in that.

1059
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:51,000
It has like different chapter
titles, but all this crazy stuff

1060
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,900
takes place in one night at a
motel and it ends up like

1061
00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:58,500
everything's on fire at the end.
It's, it's Drew God.

1062
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:01,500
Heard the guy that made the
movie Cabin in the Woods doing

1063
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:04,500
Tarantino and it is freaking
great.

1064
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:07,700
I love that movie.
The Other Rosen called Bob, it's

1065
01:00:07,700 --> 01:00:10,600
called bad times at the El
Royale, okay?

1066
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:14,100
The other route that I think you
could go is to take the

1067
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:15,700
supporting actors in this movie,
ASA.

1068
01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:19,300
Gonzales, and take a movie that
she was just in this year, that

1069
01:00:19,300 --> 01:00:22,700
also involve going very fast in
stolen vehicles, and that is

1070
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:26,200
Michael Bay's, ambulance.
I think you could pair this up

1071
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,300
and have an ASA Gonzales, you
double.

1072
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,100
You've been pulling for
ambulance for a while now?

1073
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:34,200
Bob, you know what?
Like, 5 years ago, I think I

1074
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,000
would have been too snooty to
admit that.

1075
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,200
I enjoyed ambulance.
And then this year has just been

1076
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,400
the year of awesome action
movies, man.

1077
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,300
Like, going back to the movie
theater and seeing things, like

1078
01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:49,400
Top Gun and rrr and ambulance
at, like, I've just enjoyed the

1079
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,300
hell out of the movie going
experience again this year.

1080
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:58,700
Can I tell you that I sat down
opened up Netflix and I saw rrr

1081
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:03,200
I watched 30 minutes of that
movie and turned it off and was

1082
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,300
just like, what in the world
just happened, but that was one

1083
01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:12,400
of the coolest 30 minutes of
movie I've ever had to buy.

1084
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,400
Like the way, they way that they
take about 10 to 15 minutes, to

1085
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,000
introduce each of the two main
characters.

1086
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:25,500
Those scenes are just wild and
of these incredible.

1087
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,800
All right, Brad.
So what would your pick be Hey

1088
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:32,900
man.
I I've been I've been racking my

1089
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:34,600
brain as we've been talking
about this.

1090
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,600
I think this is like, I don't
know where this came into my

1091
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:44,800
brain, but I think I'm going to
suggest and what is it called?

1092
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:50,200
It's Adam Driver.
And Daniel, Craig, I remember

1093
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,300
thinking that this looks like a
cool movie because it was like

1094
01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:55,700
the first non Bond movie that?
Yeah.

1095
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,900
Are you talking about Logan?
Lucky.

1096
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:00,700
Yes.
The NASCAR Heist movie.

1097
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:04,600
Yes Steven Soderbergh that's a
grand Channing Tatum I believe

1098
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,800
yep.
Yeah i-i've watched that once

1099
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,400
with some friends while I was in
seminary and it was quirky and

1100
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:17,200
funny and very off the wall and
I think it'd be a good good

1101
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,000
pairing for baby driver.
All right there you have it.

1102
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:22,600
We've given you three
suggestions for a double feature

1103
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,000
and that's our first installment
of.

1104
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,300
I'll make it a double Brad.
It's time for our final scores

1105
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:29,600
and we both Both.
Love this movie.

1106
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,100
I think it's nearly perfect.
There's something in me.

1107
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:35,500
That's keeping me from giving it
a 10/10, but I think I enjoy it

1108
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:38,300
like a 10/10 level.
Yeah, I think for now I'm just

1109
01:02:38,300 --> 01:02:41,800
going to say it's a nine and a
half but subject to change

1110
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,900
asterisk on that one.
I think I'll give it a 9 out of

1111
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:47,700
10.
There's still some issues for me

1112
01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:50,700
throughout the movie with pacing
in the middle of the movie.

1113
01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:55,300
Like we said, Spacey is like
good but not great.

1114
01:02:56,500 --> 01:02:59,300
But there's not much wrong with
this movie Bob and Wouldn't I

1115
01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:03,600
would 100% agree with you.
I enjoy this movie, like, it's a

1116
01:03:03,607 --> 01:03:06,000
10.
It's, it's just so good.

1117
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,300
Even like, dude, when he pulls
out the Michael Myers masks and

1118
01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:14,900
they have the conversation
about, which Michael Myers that

1119
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:18,600
he should have bought, it's
just, it's just witty and, and

1120
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,700
Priceless.
All right, we'd love to know

1121
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:24,700
what you think of baby driver.
Where does it rank for you among

1122
01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:26,800
the three Edgar Wright films
that we reviewed?

1123
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:28,600
Let us know what you think you
can find.

1124
01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:31,900
Us on our social media accounts,
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1125
01:03:31,900 --> 01:03:36,600
Tick-Tock at film whiskey, or
you can jump onto our Discord.

1126
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:40,600
Discord is a wonderful place
where you can have a community

1127
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:45,000
of people on the internet that
you get to choose to be a part

1128
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,500
of their there.
It's not open to everybody.

1129
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:52,300
Only the people that join are in
and we have great conversations

1130
01:03:52,300 --> 01:03:56,500
about life about movies whiskey,
you know, all sorts of things.

1131
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,700
So you can find a link to get
Onto our Discord.

1132
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:03,100
At the end of every single one
of our show notes next week,

1133
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,800
we're starting a mini-series on
the American filmmaker Wes

1134
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:07,900
Anderson.
We're going to be looking at his

1135
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:10,300
second feature film.
The one that really blew him up

1136
01:04:10,300 --> 01:04:14,400
in terms of public Consciousness
that movie is called Rushmore.

1137
01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:16,400
We'll be back with that one next
week.

1138
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,700
But until then, I'm Bob book,
I'm Brad G and we'll see you

1139
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:21,300
next time.