Anchorman (2004) / Benchmark Old No. 8 Bourbon

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Free audio post production bio
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In 2004, director Adam McKay and
star Will Ferrell gave the world

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a quotable classic that shot
right up the ratings.

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In 2025, we set the standard for
whiskey for the rest of the

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season.
The film is Anchorman, the

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legend of Ron Burgundy.
The whiskey is benchmark old #8.

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And we are going to review them
both.

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This is the.
Film and Whiskey podcast.

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Welcome to the Film and Whiskey
podcast, where each week we

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review a classic movie and a
glass of whiskey.

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I'm Bob Book.
I'm Brad G.

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And Brad, it is time finally for
season #10 of the Film and

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Whiskey Podcast.
And we are celebrating season 10

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by you being able to see us
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look like?
I guess that's the real question

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for the listeners of film and
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I I have a lot more Gray hair
than I did when we started this

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podcast, Bob.
Yeah, and I now have no hair.

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So it's really been quite a
journey, Brad.

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So folks, if you're joining us
for the first time on Film and

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Whiskey, we started this podcast
back in 2019.

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So we have been going strong for
well over six years.

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We are entering season 10 of the
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And what we're doing this season
is we're revisiting all the

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movies we reviewed back in our
very first season, season #1

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where, let's be Frank, Brad, our
recording capabilities and our

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equipment, we're a bit subpar.
You know, I think maybe Ron

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Burgundy would have liked them
back in the 70s, but they

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weren't great for 2019.
I'm still using the same

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microphone.
Well, first.

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Of all microphone Bob.
Let's be honest, I I gave you

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that microphone.
You sure did.

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I sure did.
And if you remember our very

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first episodes, we decided to
record our podcast on like a

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conference call mic that sat on
the desk in front of us.

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So we've come quite a long way.
That was bad deed.

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That's rough, man.
But hey, we're back.

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We've got better mics, we've got
video now, and we're talking

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about Anchorman, which is the
very first movie we ever

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reviewed.
It was so early on, in fact,

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that we didn't actually even
release it as our first episode.

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It was kind of a behind the
scenes test case for Brad and I

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to decide if we could really do
this thing.

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Yeah, definitely a teaser and we
have been teasing people with it

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for 6 1/2 years now.
So I think it's time, Brad, for

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us to just dive right back into
Anchorman and I could not be

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more excited.
Dude, Anchorman is a legendary

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movie with both of us being
born.

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I think we're like 10 days
apart, right?

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Because you're the 25th 24.
We are like millennials of all

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millennials, and if there was
ever a movie that spoke to our

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generation, we would have been
1314 when this came out.

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Just the absolute perfect time
for this movie to have maximum

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impact.
Because, Bob, whether you like

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it or not, this is a movie for
middle schoolers. 100% And you

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know, I, there's a, a very
popular meme that has gone

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around that's just basically
said like, you know, before

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smartphones, all guys used to do
was sit around in a room quoting

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Anchorman at each other.
And it's accurate because Brad,

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it's probably been six years
since I have put this movie back

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on because I binged it so much
in my younger years.

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And I still feel like I probably
know 75% of the lines in this

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movie by heart.
Like it's, it's never going to

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leave my brain.
It's so embedded in there now.

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This is probably up there as one
of the absolute it like it's on

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the Mount Rushmore, at least of
most quotable movies like this,

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Monty Python and the Holy Grail,
Spinal Tap like that, like just

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some of the most quotable films
of all time.

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And of that Mount Rushmore,
Anchorman's the first one I saw.

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It really holds a special place
in my heart.

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I remember being in like 8th
grade computer class using like

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the circumventer to get around
the blocker and we would like

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download audio clips from
Anchorman and play them back and

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forth to each other and just
quote them all the time as

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middle schoolers would be want
to do.

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And, and The funny thing is that
like, yes, it's a very juvenile

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movie, but it definitely grows
with you because the things that

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I used to quote when I was 15
were like, you are a smelly

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pirate hooker.
And I no longer say that so

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much.
But now I will just randomly, I,

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I will just randomly say
something like, yeah, I ate a

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big red candle and that's like,
I'll lean into those ones now.

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The one that I loved as a as a
younger younger lad was Brick.

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I've been meaning to talk to you
about that.

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You should probably find a
relatives or a safe house

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somewhere because you're
probably 1 for.

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Murder.
All right, dude, we're going to

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end up devolving into a quote
fest if we don't actually get

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into our episode today.
Folks, like I said, if this is

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your first episode, welcome into
film and whiskey.

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We review movies, we review
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We've got a good one of both of
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the people in both of those
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up Benchmark with Anchorman is
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We do want to say real quick as

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we get into our movie today, if
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Brad, this is a movie that needs
very little introduction, but

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we're going to give it one
anyway.

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Oh, now, brown cow.
We're gonna give it one anyway

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with our first segment of the
day, which we call Brad

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explains.
Brad's gonna give us the movie

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plots.
With only 60 seconds.

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Taken on the.
Clock.

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So let's go ahead and do your
take with this little segment

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that we call Brad Explains.
Brad Explains is the part of the

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show where Brad breaks down the
plot of the movie that he has

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just seen often for the first
time.

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Brad, are we in the double
digits on Anchorman for you?

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Oh man, I honestly probably not.
Like I remember watching it at a

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friend's house in like 8th grade
at a sleepover.

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I probably didn't own the movie
until I was in college so this

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is probably 5 or 6 for me I
would guess.

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Yeah, it's one of those movies
where, you know, it was still,

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it peaked after it came out.
So, like, it did OK at the box

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office, but it wasn't a huge
hit.

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And then it took on a life of
its own on DVD and Blu-ray.

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But it missed that initial wave
of, like, YouTube ability.

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Like, that wasn't until after
Step Brothers even, which came

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out in 2008.
So like, if you watched this

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movie, you had to have a copy of
it somewhere in your home.

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And if you didn't own it at the
time, then there's like, there's

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no way that you could have seen
it that many times.

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But for those of us who did own
the DVD, gosh, I've probably

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seen this movie 25 times.
It's crazy, man.

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Yeah, Yeah.
It made about 90 million

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worldwide, 85 of that coming
domestically.

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So this one did not play well
overseas for whatever reason.

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Do you do you think anchormen
had the same like mystique in

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like India that they did in the
US?

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Probably not so much I I can't
imagine that 1970s San Diego is

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playing too well overseas, Brad.
The way that Brad explains

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works, as you know and as most
of our listeners know, is that

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you get one minute to break down
the plot of this movie,

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including full spoilers.
So folks, if you do not want

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Anchorman The Legend of Ron
Burgundy spoiled for you, I

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would recommend that you hit
pause here.

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Go watch this 94 minute movie
and then come on back and join

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us for the rest of the episode.
Dude.

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Listen, man.
For for those new to the world

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of film and whiskey, you are
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most magical masterpieces a
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Minute the 90 minute movie.
I love it so much.

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All right, man, listen, it is
your time to shine, Brad.

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You get 60 seconds on the clock,
Breakdown the plot of this film

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and go.
Anchorman, The Legend of Ron

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Burgundy is a film that follows
the titular character Ron

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Burgundy, who is an Anchorman in
the mid 1970s, he finds himself

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embroiled in a diversity
scandal.

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Now, Are you sure this isn't a
modern film?

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I know this feels.
We will get into the DEI hires

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at play here, Brad.
It follows him as they hire

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their first female reporter.
It takes him through all sorts

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of shenanigans with his fellow
News team champ Brian and Brick,

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and it follows his downfall as
he throws a burrito at Jack

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Black and has his dog kicked off
a bridge.

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And it also follows, Yeah, I was
going to say continue.

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Yeah, I was just, I would say
even at the bottom of his

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career, we see Veronica
Corningstone, played by

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Christina Applegate, skyrocket
at the top, becoming the best

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news acre in the world.
But they unite over one last

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news story, the beautiful birth
of a panda.

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There's a bear fight.
I love.

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That and milk was milk was a bad
choice.

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I love the part where Brian
Fantana has to report on the

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panda and like doesn't even know
its name and it's just like

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Ching King is back here getting
ready to get birth.

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This is going dude, I'm telling
you, this is going to devolve

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into nothing but us quoting it
at each other.

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Paul freaking red is so funny in
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Let's start by talking about the
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I think that's a good place to
start here, Brad, because this

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was in many ways a launching pad
for some careers.

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Steve Carell most famously, and
it was kind of a return to

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mainstream comedy for somebody
like Paul Rudd, who had had

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quite a few movies in the 90s
and then was kind of kicking

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around Hollywood and this was a
a big role for him that

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reestablished him in the world
of comedy.

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It definitely skyrocketed Will
Ferrell to superstardom.

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Where who do you want to start
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Do you want to just dive in with
Paul Rudd and and kind of work

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our way out from there?
Yeah, I think you start with the

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four anchors and then, you know,
we'll talk about Ron and what,

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what is Christina's name?
Veronica, Veronica.

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Corningstone.
Veronica.

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There we go.
Veronica Corningstone.

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All right, man, let's talk about
him.

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I, I, I think it's OK to start
with Paul Rudd here because like

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you said, I, I, I didn't know
Paul Rudd that much when I first

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saw this movie.
I was not a fan of like the

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movie Clueless from the mid 90s.
Like not that I'm not a fan of

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it, but I just didn't grow up
with it.

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He has a major role in the movie
Clueless, and so a lot of people

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from the 90s knew him from that.
This was pretty much my first

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exposure to Paul Rudd when I was
13.

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And it's funny to look back on
some of these guys now that

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we've had 20 years of career
with them.

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You know, Paul Rudd is now doing
Ant Man 6 or whatever the hell

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he's doing.
But like, he's been so

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established as a major star in
Hollywood, and we know what sort

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of improv and comedy chops he
has that when you go back and

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watch this movie, it's like, Oh
my gosh, I didn't even notice at

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the time how much this was like
a comedy Dynamo waiting to break

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out of his shell.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like I love

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you, man.
Was like a very pivotal, like he

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got launched, as, you know, one
of the two main characters of

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that film.
It feels like that was a real

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turning point for his career.
And yes, to come back to see him

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here in Anchorman, he has so
many great moments throughout

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the film.
I I found myself really focused

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on the three supporting
Anchormen.

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And I think, I think Paul Rudd
has a little bit of something in

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his character, something on the
script that you don't have with

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the other two.
The other two feel very flat.

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it's a great character and a
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Yeah, for sure.
Let's talk about Steve Carell,

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because this was a year before
The Office premiered and it

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premiered like just before he
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Virgin.
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these three pieces of media are
what really kind of catapult him

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to a new level of success as
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Now, he also had been kind of
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He had done smaller parts in
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He had kind of really made a
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role in the movie Bruce
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him on the radar of some of
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But Steve Carell is another one
of these guys that we've now

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seen him nominated for Oscars
for dramatic roles.

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performances, I say earlier, but
like, I'm pretty sure he was 42

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or 41 when this movie is filmed.
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a late bloomer in terms of
finding success in Hollywood.

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I will say though, that there's
something about the Corel

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performance where there's a,
there's an almost like

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fearfulness to Brick that you
can tell that he's like socially

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embarrassed so often.
And Corel plays that really,

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really well, even though he's
like oblivious to social norms.

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He also like is afraid to speak
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plays Brick is way different

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than the way that he's played
any other character since.

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go back and revisit the second

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Anchorman for this episode, but
I kind of wonder if I were to go

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back to Anchorman 2 and watch
him try to play Brick in 2013 or

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whatever that was, how much
different of a character Brick

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would look like, 'cause I don't
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has this particular kind of
register in his bag still.

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Yeah.
Does it make sense?

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Definitely.
Oh, 100%.

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It feels like when a major star
is in AB, roll before they're a

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major star, like, and they do
what the director wants and they

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adjust themselves way more than
they normally would because they

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don't have the cachet to get
away with just being who they

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are.
And honestly, like, this is like

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a very tiny aside, but like Seth
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this movie.
Like Seth Rogen is in the movie.

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He has he he's just plays a
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That's just like, hey, I got a
good shot Veronica like and it's

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it's such a weird experience to
see Seth Rogen not being doofus

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Seth Rogen.
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I think with Steve Carell
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perfect example of who he is in
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is when he invites Veronica to
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Everything else that he does in
the movie is 1 liners just

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delivered at the camera and then
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But the one chance he gets to
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the film, it's one of the
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I'm with you.
I I love the way he brought

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Brick to life.
Let's talk about David Koechner

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a little bit.
Who plays champ?

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Kind David Koechner, probably
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You know, Anchorman now, but I
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addition to this group of people
because he does have that sort

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of like macho dude mentality
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You know, you could read it as
like a homoeroticism.

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You could read it as just like
supreme insecurity.

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But that scene where he's just
like pawing at Ron, talking

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about missing his Musk and
wanting to move in together.

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And you know, this time around,
I watched the other people in

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the scene reacting to him and I
don't think I'd ever done that

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before because he's he's so
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But it's it's so hilarious
because he's missing the mark so

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much on being able to read the
room that every time they cut

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away to Brian Fantana trying to
like, he's like blowing into his

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straw and his Coca-Cola trying
to act like he's not hearing

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what's going on.
It makes that scene so much

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better, man.
Oh, it's incredible.

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I, I've gotten into a habit with
comedies that I have seen before

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of watching all the surrounding
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so much funnier because you see

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the people trying to play flat
and they do a good job at it

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usually.
But it's those little moments

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where Brian's like into his
drink and you see his eyes just

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barely move and you're like, oh,
he's holding it in because this

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is this is brilliant.
That was kind of my MO, this

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whole, like, on this rewatch the
whole time through, though, And

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there are moments that I guess I
just never noticed before, but

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they'll like leave the camera on
characters for a beat too long

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and you get to watch their
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movie, you know, after Fred Ward
comes in and says, like, Fred

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Willard comes in and says, like,
hey, you know, we're #1 don't,

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don't let these guys party.
And they cut to the party and

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Ron's talking to Brian Fantana
and he's just like, we've been

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coming to the same party for 12
years now and in no way is that

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depressing.
And I always loved that line.

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But then they leave it on him
for a minute and he goes and in

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no way he's that depressing.
And then he like, takes a real

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awkward drink.
And it's.

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Perfect.
It's great 'cause you can tell

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that he's already reevaluating
his life choices, and I don't

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know why I had never noticed
that tiny little beat.

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But in a movie that often
doesn't have enough time to let

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its characters be real human
beings, I actually really

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appreciated a small moment like
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Because they're not giving Ron
Burgundy tons of character

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development in the script, and
so Will Ferrell has to bring it

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in those kind of small, improv
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And that one moment spoke
volumes about things that aren't

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on the page for Ron Burgundy.
Yeah, and and they give him that

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moment a few seconds later when
he's talking to Veronica and.

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And he he lands with can I just
restart for a second?

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I want to be on you.
And she just dude, Veronica's

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sigh.
Christina Applegate just

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freaking nails it.
And she turns around and walks

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away.
And then he commits and just

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goes I want to be on you.
But the camera sits on him for

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another few seconds, and you see
him just kind of looking around,

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like, I hope nobody saw that.
And like, casually sauntering

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off.
And it's once again, it's

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allowing the camera and the
medium of film to do character

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work in the way that a book
couldn't.

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Yep.
Let's talk about Christina

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Applegate a little bit, because
I think she's kind of the

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missing piece here in this cast.
I think she's, first of all, I

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think she's great in this movie.
It is really, really hard to be

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put against, you know, obviously
these four guys who are all

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super well versed in improv and
have to hold your own.

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And I think that they kind of
balance that out by giving

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Veronica the most scripted lines
of anybody in the movie.

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She seems like she's mostly like
an exposition character, but she

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does such a good job.
Especially like if you watch the

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blooper reel it during the
credits, you can tell that they

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were letting her kind of riff as
well.

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And there's moments where she's
making those guys crack up.

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I think she really holds her own
and and that sounds kind of like

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a backhanded compliment.
I don't mean to say that she's

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any worse than anybody else, but
like she is an actress who, you

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know, she was in Married with
Children and that was kind of

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like her big claim to fame.
So she's used to doing comedy.

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She has great comic timing.
I actually think it's almost

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more impressive that somebody
that doesn't necessarily have

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that, like improv heavy
training, can hold their own so

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much in a movie like this and
not stick out like a sore thumb.

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The ways that she did stick out,
I felt like almost highlighted

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the tension that the story is
trying to tell even further

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though, right?
That somebody who is prepared,

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who has something of a script
they're working off of, who

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spends time being professional,
will come across more polished

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and controlled and professional
than people who are just

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improving their way through
life.

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And so for me, the fact that you
can tell she's a more scripted

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character worked in the movies
favor I, I don't know if I'm

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reading too much into it, but
that felt obvious to me on this

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watch through of like, yeah, no,
like she's not improving nearly

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as much.
And you can tell when she does,

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but it works because she should
be more polished and

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professional and feel less
ridiculous.

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Yeah.
Yeah, no, I love it, man.

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What did you think, though,
about, like, the overall dynamic

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between Will Ferrell and
Christina Applegate?

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In terms of like, as actors, do
they have chemistry with each

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other?
Not just romantic chemistry, but

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in terms of a scene, being able
to bounce off an acting partner.

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Did you feel like they made a
good couple in the movie?

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I thought they were incredible.
I did too.

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Like, I like, dude, the scenes
for me that highlight that the

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most is when the two of them are
sitting together after a news

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broadcast.
And this is when they're broken

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up and, like, hate each other.
And the way that they talk to

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each other with hatred in their
voice and yet happiness in their

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mannerisms.
And the way that McKay switches

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back and forth between what's
happening in The Newsroom and

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what you know people are seeing
on their television screen as

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the credits roll was so good.
And the chemistry, the comedic

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chemistry between them is like
10 out of 10 lightning in a

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bottle.
All right, dude, anything else

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you want to say about the cast
of the movie you mentioned all

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the way down to the bottom of
the cast list.

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You've got Seth Rogen, who I
believe his character name in

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this is Eager Cameraman.
So that's, that's his name.

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And then, you know, we've
mentioned Fred Willard.

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I, I do want to talk about
Katherine Hahn just popping up

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for a hot 2nd in this movie as
well.

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She's gone on to have the same.
Career.

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Yeah, yeah.
It sounds like you had somebody

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though.
Tim Robbins, I don't, I don't

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know if this is just like me.
I don't think I ever realized

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that that was Tim Robbins.
I I know I didn't the first time

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I watched it because I'd never
seen a Tim Robbins movie before.

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Now I, I look at that role and
there was something in me that's

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like, man, Tim Robbins is such a
good actor.

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Like the way he interacts with
Veronica for like 13 seconds, I

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just found myself going, how did
he not make it bigger?

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Like how like where did he fall
off?

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Because the dude can act.
I don't want to say that he fell

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off because especially like if
you look at when this movie

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comes out in O 4 the year before
this, he's in Mystic River and

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wins an Oscar.
And then like this is his next

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movie.
It's just like, I'm going to go

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be an Anchorman for three
minutes.

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And it's like, you know what?
You've earned that right, Tim

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Robbins.
You go for it, man.

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Yeah, totally.
Lots of cameos.

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We have Vince, Vince Vaughn
showing up as his, as his main

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rival.
I for some reason Vince McMahon

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was like, maybe because it's W
Man Tooth.

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Yeah, you know.
First of all, that might be the

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best character name in the whole
movie.

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W Mantooth is a freaking great
news man.

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The mantooth is a.
Saint All right, so you've got

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Vince Vaughn, you've got Ben
Stiller, who pops up in this for

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a hot 2nd in what is for sure
the most no, the most

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cancellable thing in this whole
movie probably, but you know

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what it's like.
This is 2004, baby.

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This is what we did back then.
Is it more cancelable than

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Robert Downey Junior in Tropic
Thunder?

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Oh, that's the debate.
If we were into hot takes for

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clicks and views, we would be
talking about that right now.

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But.
Here's the thing, I don't crack

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it.
Challenge most cancellable

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characters.
Those those would probably be 1

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and 2 seeds.
I think it's.

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Pretty high up there.
All right man, I think it's time

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00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,920
for us to take a break and drink
some whiskey before we actually

445
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,720
get into cancellable takes.
Here we come back, we can quote

446
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480
this movie some more, and we'll
get into our game for the day. 2

447
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,120
Facts and a falsehood.
But what do you say we go try

448
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:01,760
this benchmark, old #8?
Bob, we should get to it.

449
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,840
All right, today we are checking
out Benchmark old #8 Bourbon

450
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,160
Whiskey Brad.
This was one of the very first

451
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,200
whiskey's we ever tried on our
podcast.

452
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,960
We initially released it as
episode #1 with the movie

453
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Goodfellas.
Now we have actually done an

454
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,280
episode, a revisit of the movie
Goodfellas 'cause I was

455
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,640
convinced that Brad would like
it better a second time.

456
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,480
Spoiler alert, he did not.
Just so everybody knows, I gave

457
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,120
that movie an 8 1/2 both.
Times it's not good enough, man.

458
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:43,040
I don't know what to.
Tell you it's this isn't an

459
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,600
eternal Sunshine ET type of
situation, all right?

460
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,640
It might.
It might as well be though,

461
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,160
Brad.
So anyway, Benchmark had been

462
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,680
paired up with Goodfellas, but
we didn't revisit the whiskey

463
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,000
along with the movie.
I figured it would be a great

464
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,560
time to revisit this whiskey
because, Brad, in the interim,

465
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,240
we have tried the entire line of
Benchmark products, which was a

466
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,440
thing that didn't exist when we
first started.

467
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,920
Yeah, yeah.
Go for it.

468
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,480
I'd say it got released after we
started the podcast.

469
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,000
And to be frank guys, the
benchmark lineup goes from $13

470
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,240
for regular benchmark to like
$26 I think for the barrel

471
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,040
strength.
Yes, so I'm actually looking.

472
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,880
Really fun line up.
We did a ranking of the five

473
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,760
other benchmarks.
I'll read them off real quick.

474
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,600
So at #5 was Benchmark single
barrel, which is 25 bucks.

475
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,760
Number 4 was Benchmark bonded,
$20.

476
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,000
Number 3 was Benchmark small
batch, 90 proof, 18 bucks.

477
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,560
Benchmark top floor was the big
surprise for us.

478
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,200
That's an 86 proof whiskey, 15
bucks.

479
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,720
And then our favorite one was
the foolproof at about 23 bucks.

480
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,960
Brad, I think the biggest
comparison point for us here is

481
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,120
going to be that benchmark top
floor.

482
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,560
And when we say top floor, this
is distilled by the Buffalo

483
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,000
Trace distillery.
And they say that for top floor,

484
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,880
they only blended barrels that
came from the top floor of the

485
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,680
Rick house, which you know is
going to be the hottest part.

486
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,040
It's going to, you know, in
their marketing, they say it's

487
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,200
going to extract the most out of
those barrels.

488
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,240
We really liked the top floor
for regular benchmark.

489
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,640
They're blending all across Rick
houses and floors here and they

490
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,440
are distilling it.
I'm diluting it all the way down

491
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:33,280
to 40% ABV or 80 proof.
Now this is not age stated, but

492
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,000
you know, we assume that this is
at least three years old.

493
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,560
And Brad, I remember this being
like, not bad for a whiskey that

494
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,760
costs about $12.00 at the time
we first tried it.

495
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Yeah, I was going to say the the
review I believe we gave it

496
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,120
overall was like this is a good
benchmark for budget bourbon.

497
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,400
Yep.
And I'm very curious to return

498
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,840
to it with that in mind.
I will say I bought a bottle of

499
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Benchmark like a year ago, so
this bad boy has not been

500
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,680
freshly popped.
It's been just about marinating

501
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,400
on the shelf.
You, the way you described it to

502
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,680
me was like, you just kind of
like woke up one day and it was

503
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,400
there.
You're like, yeah, I don't know.

504
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,120
I, I just, I got a bottle of
Benchmark.

505
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,400
It just kind of happened.
It did just like, stumble and

506
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,360
fall into the liquor store with
a bottle of Benchmark on the

507
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,880
counter.
I was in a few state.

508
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,520
I don't want any of it.
Dude, no.

509
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,080
All right, so currently this is
retailing for $13 in the great

510
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,320
state of Ohio where Brad and I
both reside.

511
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,920
We will review the value of it
after we sip this whiskey.

512
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,080
But Brad, let's get into our
review here.

513
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,440
What are you picking up on the
nose of benchmark #8?

514
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,920
And since we're doing things on
video now, I usually drink the

515
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,400
whiskeys before we record.
Bob usually drinks them live and

516
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,200
on the air, so you get a little
bit of both.

517
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,720
You can watch me stick my nose
in this while Brad gives his

518
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,440
nosing notes.
You know what?

519
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,640
I've found that you're going to
love that I say this right

520
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,600
before you drink it.
I think drinking whiskey on

521
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,640
video is weird because they like
see into your mouth and like you

522
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,560
got to kind of like turn to the
side and then it's like a.

523
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,640
Silhouette and that's that's my
whole MO.

524
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,960
I'm trying to parlay this into
an only fans account.

525
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,000
Eventually I want them to see my
open mouth.

526
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,120
Brad, now proceed with your
review.

527
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,040
This nose is very average, Bob.
It is caramel.

528
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,440
There's some baking spices.
Everything is muted about it,

529
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,120
like there's a little bit of a
vanilla vibe going on.

530
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,960
It's all nice and pleasant.
It's a little bit muted.

531
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,920
You're not getting a ton out of
it. 6 out of 10.

532
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,640
I love that they call this
benchmark.

533
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,520
I mean, I think if there was
more accurate, they'd call it

534
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,160
baseline because it kind of is
like it's a really great entry

535
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,480
level bourbon for people who are
new to drinking whiskey.

536
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,520
It is the lowest proof that it
can legally be to be called

537
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,720
bourbon and but you're getting
some really great notes of like

538
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,360
really spicy oak.
I get great baking spices on

539
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,680
this.
I get a little bit of clove.

540
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,920
I get a little bit of nutmeg.
It's definitely got a vanilla

541
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,080
heavy profile.
And then I get quite a bit of

542
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000
like pink bubble gum as well.
It smells really sweet to

543
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,080
balance out that oak spiciness.
It is pretty average, but like

544
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,120
this is kind of what you would
bottle and make a brick a a

545
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,920
brick Tamlin big red candle out
of if you were doing like a

546
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,040
bourbon scented candle.
It's, it's like a 6 1/2 for me,

547
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,720
Brad.
Yeah, I think the pallet once

548
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,320
again, all of the flavors are a
little muted for better for the

549
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,840
worse.
I I might sound a little bit

550
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,520
pretentious here.
We don't often drink 80 proof

551
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,200
whiskey on this podcast anymore,
Bob.

552
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,760
And that's not to say that we go
crazy.

553
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,520
We just had a Mary Dowling the
other week.

554
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,840
That's like 91 proof and we've
really, really loved it, right?

555
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,640
But we don't often hit the 80
proof.

556
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,520
So it makes sense to me that
these, the experience of the

557
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,720
palate is a little bit tamped
down.

558
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,680
I think that it's a little bit
sawdusty.

559
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,960
There's some caramel.
It gets a little bit into the

560
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,880
black pepper realm.
The bubble gum note is a really

561
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,800
good one here.
I think all of it is just a

562
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,600
really average to below average
experience.

563
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,040
I'll give it a 5 1/2 out of 10.
It's, it's not anything that I'm

564
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,720
going to say this is faulty
distillate.

565
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,280
It's not anything I'm going to
get really excited about.

566
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,560
Yeah, man, I'm kind of in the
same spot as you.

567
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,800
And I don't know how to explain
this, but sometimes when we get

568
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,560
like a note of banana on the
nose, then we'll actually sip it

569
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,920
and it reminds us of like an
overripe banana where it's like

570
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160
sickly sweet it.
It almost tastes like

571
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,440
something's gone wrong with it.
This is that but with bubble

572
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,640
gum.
Now, to my knowledge, bubble gum

573
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,280
does not get overripe, Brad, but
it almost tastes like medicinal,

574
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,040
like a kids medicine that's
flavored like bubble gum.

575
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,040
It tastes like artificially
sweetened almost, and then on

576
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640
the back of the pallet it tips
into like really weird bitter

577
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,160
notes.
So you're kind of getting the

578
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,520
worst of the sweet notes and the
worst of the barrel notes.

579
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,880
I don't think it's an awful
whiskey, but I wonder if the

580
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,920
like extensive dilution is
actually bringing out some of

581
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,560
those compounds that you don't
want brought out.

582
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,920
If this was at 90 proof, would
it taste better?

583
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,360
I don't know.
But as it is, I think I am going

584
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,680
to give it a 5 1/2 bread.
Yeah, and I think finish wise

585
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,000
I'm in the same place.
The black pepper is there, the

586
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,680
vanilla is barely there.
It gets very oaky at the back

587
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,680
end.
Not a bad way, but not in a good

588
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,440
way either.
I'm going to stick it a 5 1/2

589
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,280
out of 10 on the finish, Bob.
Yeah, the problem with an 80

590
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,960
proof whiskey is that it's
really hard to have a long

591
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,400
lasting finish.
And part of what we score a

592
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,320
finish on is like A, is it
pleasant?

593
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,840
But then B, how long does it
stick around?

594
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,880
And this one is, I think 2:00.
It's credit, not super

595
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,679
unpleasant given like what I
just said about how bitter it

596
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,239
was, but it just dissipates
super quickly.

597
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:18,280
So at 80 proof, I'll give this a
six on the finish.

598
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,920
And then on the balance, which
is where we consider all three

599
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,600
of those prior categories, nose,
taste, finish.

600
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,880
Was there like weird ups and
downs through that journey?

601
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,840
I don't know that this one had
weird ups and downs as much as

602
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,800
it's just like a pretty mediocre
whiskey.

603
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,880
So once again, I'll just give it
a six here.

604
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,800
Brad, where are you coming out
on balance?

605
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:42,320
Exact same spot 6 out of 10 And
like the The thing is with

606
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,120
balance, even if it has kind of
a weird journey, if it's a

607
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,920
journey that makes sense to your
palate, then like that's good

608
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,960
balance.
You're taking a lot of complex

609
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,760
things and making something
beautiful.

610
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,199
So it doesn't just have to be
smooth between the three

611
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:00,440
categories for this one.
It's just it is pretty smooth

612
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,160
between the three categories on
what you're experiencing.

613
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,840
It's nothing to write home
about. 6 out of 10 here.

614
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,680
Now, Bob, this is going to set
you back in the gorgeous state

615
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:16,840
of Ohio, $13.
That is a 1299 purchase.

616
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,400
You're getting out of there for
under 15 bucks with tax.

617
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,440
Yep, like here's the thing. 8
out of 10 for me.

618
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:30,480
I don't know if there is a
nationally produced bourbon

619
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,960
brand that is cheaper than this.
Like sometimes you'll get ones

620
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,000
that are like almost like
generic, just the word bourbon.

621
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:40,120
And those are usually made by
the big distilleries, but

622
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,520
they're they're regional or
they're not nationally produced.

623
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,160
I really don't know if you can
get a cheaper bourbon than this

624
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,720
that is available everywhere.
And that like there is something

625
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,520
to be said about that.
I also don't think I like this

626
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,320
very much.
And so it's like, would I

627
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,560
recommend somebody spend $13 on
this or spend $2.00 more for

628
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,520
that benchmark top floor, which
I actually approve of?

629
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:06,280
I kind of consider them to be
equivalent because 2 bucks is

630
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,880
like nothing in the world of
whiskey here.

631
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,480
I'm only going to give this a
six out of 10 on value, which

632
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,000
brings me to a kind of
surprisingly low 30 out of 50.

633
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,680
Brad, where are you coming out
to on this one?

634
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,520
Honestly man, I'm kind of at an
8.

635
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,120
Like I I still think that for
what you are buying this all

636
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,280
makes sense.
Like 5 to 6 out of 10 is what

637
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,640
you should expect out of a $13
whiskey.

638
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,880
I would say that this is a good
value.

639
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,520
I'm going to give it an 8 out of
10.

640
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,960
I'm coming out to a 31 out of
50.

641
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,840
All right.
So after all that, we're

642
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:49,720
basically in the same spot, 61
out of 100 or 30.5 out of 50.

643
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,840
Now for those of you who may be
new at the 35 mark is where we

644
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,720
typically start recommending a
whiskey.

645
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,720
The 40 out of 50 mark is
typically where it's like a no

646
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,320
brainer for us.
Brad, I, I don't think that this

647
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,360
is either a try or buy type of
purchase for me, but like if you

648
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,120
need a quick mixer and you're
just going to put coke on top of

649
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,160
it that I mean like it's 13
bucks, go for it, you know?

650
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,600
Yeah.
And honestly, like, I don't

651
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,680
think anybody's going to look at
your bar cart and get like

652
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,600
snippy about there being
benchmark.

653
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Like everybody understands the
need for a mixer and they're

654
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,760
going, oh, wow, you have a cheap
mixer.

655
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:31,480
So do I So I like, like I said,
do I recommend or not?

656
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,160
I don't know, go spend your own
money how you want to when it's

657
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,200
$13.
Yeah, exactly.

658
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,920
Now if we were smart about this,
we would have had a Scotch so

659
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,320
that we could say Scotchy,
Scotch, Scotch while we drank

660
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,320
it, and we did not do that.
So in its place Cutty have drank

661
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,440
Cutty Sark would have been
fantastic.

662
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,680
Cutty Sark would have been a
great pick for this this.

663
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,240
Week.
All right, man, Let's get back

664
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,000
into talking about Anchorman.
What do you say?

665
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:04,040
Let's get to it, Bob.
All right, everybody, that was

666
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:09,200
benchmark #8 is it a McAfee
Whiskey Bob?

667
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,400
You know what?
Yeah, we didn't even talk about

668
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,960
that.
This is not just benchmark.

669
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,600
It's Mcafee's benchmark.
So that dude Pat McAfee is just

670
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,200
making his presence known all
over the place, man.

671
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,240
Dude, you want to know what
what?

672
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,840
They're making a lot of money
off of Buffalo Trace.

673
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,280
What's the benchmark Whiskey?
They sure are dude.

674
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,000
Benchmark and Fireball keeping
that place afloat.

675
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680
Oh, 100% man, that is paying the
bills.

676
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,160
But do you know what is paying
the bills around here, Bob?

677
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,680
What's that, Brad?
2 facts and a falsehood.

678
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,440
Brad is going to try to stump
you.

679
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,920
Ball 2.
Are right and what is wrong?

680
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,960
2 facts and a falsehood. 2 Facts
and a Falsehood is the part of

681
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,920
the show where Brad presents me
with three items as fact about

682
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,880
the making of this movie, one of
which is a complete lie.

683
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,520
Now Brad, I have brought
multiple seasons worth of

684
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,680
winning records into season #10
here I am looking to get out to

685
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,640
a hot start.
I'm going to be honest with you

686
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,640
dude, because we're doing
Anchorman today.

687
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,520
I I didn't do any research about
this movie, so you could

688
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,000
probably.
You already know.

689
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,440
You know everything about it,
Bob.

690
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,200
Yeah, yeah, why not?
Brad, hit me with your two facts

691
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,880
and a falsehood.
All right.

692
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,240
Fact #1 The Mexican restaurant
that Veronica visits with her

693
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:36,600
friend from the station is named
Escoopamos Ensu Alimento, which

694
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:43,280
means we spit in your food.
Fact #2 The bears shown in the

695
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,600
film are not actually Kodiak
bears, but the other subspecies

696
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,560
of brown bears known as the
American grizzly bear.

697
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:58,600
Fact #3 Adam Mckay's daughter,
Lily McKee, makes a cameo as a

698
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,760
little girl insulting Ron while
he's walking on the street.

699
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:06,520
Mckay's wife, Shira Piven, plays
the girl's mother.

700
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:13,120
I'm pretty sure that as McKay
and Will Ferrell kind of

701
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,720
developed their rapport with
each other.

702
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:20,280
So McKay was a writer on SNL and
Will Ferrell was his guy.

703
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,480
When they made that YouTube
video, the landlord, I'm pretty

704
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,440
sure that was one of Adam
Mckay's daughters that played

705
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,520
the little girl in that, in that
short.

706
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,520
And this little girl sounded a
lot like her, you know?

707
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:43,320
That is one of the funniest.
You like the funniest videos

708
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,480
ever put on the Internet?
I don't think that I like, I

709
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,000
think that came out years after
this.

710
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,400
So that can't be the same little
girl.

711
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,240
But maybe he has more than one
daughter.

712
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,840
I'm going to assume #3 is true.
What was the name of the Mexican

713
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,960
restaurant in #1?
Escoopimos ensu alimento.

714
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,920
Alimento is that?
Is that food?

715
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,800
I don't.
Isn't food like Christina in

716
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,120
Spanish?
It might not be.

717
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,240
It's definitely in your
something something in your

718
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,320
something.
I am.

719
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,960
I am like Ron Burgundy.
I do not know Spanish, so I

720
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,600
can't.
I can't say if one is true or

721
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,280
false #2 I just do not care
about with the bears so.

722
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,280
Is scooping most?
Does that mean spit?

723
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,280
I don't know let I want to learn
more about Spanish.

724
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,800
I'm going to say #1 is the
falsehood.

725
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,200
I have no idea if that's true.
Brad, tell me, did I get it

726
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:50,880
correct you?
Are 100% incorrect on week

727
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,440
number one of the season.
No, I'm Googling it right now

728
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,680
and SU Scoopymos and SU
Alimento, OK, it's like the

729
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,600
first thing.
Yep, sure does mean we spit in

730
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,360
their food.
Yep, it sure does, darn it.

731
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,040
All right.
Well, which was the falsehood,

732
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,920
Brad?
The falsehood was #2 about the

733
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,400
the bears shown in the film.
See, you've unlocked the key to

734
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,480
two facts in a falsehood, which
is that you write really boring

735
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,480
falsehoods.
And part of me just doesn't

736
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,760
care.
And I also know that it's like

737
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,280
terrible audio to parse the
differences in Kodiak bears.

738
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,400
So I'm just not gonna pick that
one.

739
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,520
And you get you get easy
victories that way.

740
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:41,320
Fun fact, there's like 8 species
of bears and the Kodiak and

741
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,680
grizzly are just the two
subspecies of the brown bear.

742
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,840
There you go.
So how, how, how was that audio?

743
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Bob was that I loved.
It, man, we're actually gonna

744
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,640
flip that out and share it on
social media and we'll frame

745
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,440
ourselves as bear experts.
Just just pull clips from this

746
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,280
episode that have nothing to do
with Anchorman.

747
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,400
Yeah.
We'll just talk about pandas and

748
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,720
grizzly bears for 15.
Years.

749
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,320
It's going to be great.
Why not?

750
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,320
All right, dude, where do you
want to go from here?

751
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,640
So I have failed miserably at
week one of two facts and a

752
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,720
falsehood we've talked about
Anchorman.

753
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,640
What do you still have left to
talk about here, Brad?

754
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,120
I don't know, Bob, like this.
This is Here's the thing, Bob,

755
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,000
this is like probably like a 6
1/2 out of 10 movie.

756
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,280
That's like a that like on some
levels works as a 10 out of 10

757
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,080
comedy.
There, there are so many moments

758
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:46,040
that don't follow the because of
this, then that formula of like

759
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:51,400
a South Park Trey and whatever
his name is, There's just this

760
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,200
happens.
And then they get into a a

761
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,880
street fight with a bunch of
other news teams.

762
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,920
And then Ron's dog gets punted
off a bridge by Jack Black.

763
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,360
And then and it's the whole
movie is just, and then and then

764
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,840
I'm laughing the whole stinking
movie.

765
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,040
So I guess I want you to answer
for me.

766
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,240
What is it that makes this movie
so enduringly funny if it

767
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:22,960
doesn't really follow good
storytelling or anything else?

768
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,600
I don't know how to explain it
because it's like if you just

769
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,800
straight up ask me, is this a
good movie?

770
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,840
I don't know if it is like, but
it's also not a waste of time.

771
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Usually when I call something a
bad movie, it's like it is

772
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,400
ineptly made and a waste of my
time.

773
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,720
I don't think this is even
ineptly made.

774
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:46,240
It's just made in a way that
disregards the language of

775
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,040
cinema altogether.
Like there is really no plot.

776
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,840
And they try really hard to put
like, they'll put a button on a

777
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,520
scene with something like, hey,
don't let those guys go to the

778
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,880
party just so that you kind of
understand when we cut to a

779
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,240
party, why we're there.
But it's like the barest

780
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:05,760
semblance of a plot that if you
look at like the development of

781
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,560
this movie, I know we talked
about it even six years ago,

782
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,000
Brad, like they had a whole cut
of this movie that was a

783
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,760
completely different movie that
they put together out of

784
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,920
outtakes from this.
And I guess at one point there

785
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,480
was a plot line I think about
like bank robbers.

786
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,320
And it didn't test well with
audiences.

787
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,480
So they went back and reshot all
the panda bear stuff to slot

788
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,600
into the stuff that had been
about bank robbers at one point

789
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,360
in the development.
Will Ferrell wanted this movie

790
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,360
to be about a news team that
crash lands in a in a helicopter

791
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,880
in the mountains and has to like
eat each other like the Donner

792
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,240
party.
Like there's just so many weird

793
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,320
ideas happening.
And it's essentially like, you

794
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,080
can tell that these guys are
coming out of the SNL 3 minutes

795
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,400
skit mindset and trying as hard
as they can.

796
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,920
Because the downfall of most SNL
like adaptations was you bring a

797
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,080
character from SNL, we make a
movie out of that and the

798
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,760
movie's going to suck because
this worked as a 3 minute skit,

799
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,200
not as a 90 minute movie.
And so they very smartly try to

800
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,640
just make 23 minutes skits
strung together.

801
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,080
Now, does that make a good
movie?

802
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,920
I don't know how to answer that.
It's certainly enjoyable and

803
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,960
it's a really funny movie, but I
think it's the kind of comedy

804
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,640
that I don't particularly
respond to well for a couple

805
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,080
reasons.
The first of which is like when

806
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,480
we've watched classic comedies
on this show, it's usually a

807
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,760
really well written script.
It's like a Billy Wilder doing

808
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,560
something like it.
Hot.

809
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,200
Where?
Where you.

810
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,720
Can be like.
You know what I mean?

811
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:39,320
Like it's just so tightly
written.

812
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,720
This is the opposite of that.
And and going along with that,

813
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:46,840
it's so improv heavy that it's
almost like, I respect that

814
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,200
these guys are so quick witted
and so quick on their feet, but

815
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,880
like, does that make it a good
movie?

816
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,960
I truly don't know how to answer
that dude.

817
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:05,360
I I still think the reason this
movie makes it is because Will

818
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:13,680
Ferrell is so able to create and
channel a perfect comedic

819
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,880
character.
Yeah, like that, like that is

820
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,000
what makes this movie work.
Are all the other characters

821
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:26,160
funny and great additions?
Yes, but Ron Burgundy is the

822
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,480
anchor of this movie.
Like literally at the start of

823
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,240
the movie, the voice over guy
says like, but Ron is their

824
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:35,880
anchor.
Like everything.

825
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,000
The whole world revolves around
him.

826
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,400
And it feels like this meta
commentary, like, yeah, this

827
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,600
movie would not work if Will
Ferrell didn't discover this

828
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,280
alter ego.
So much so to the point that I

829
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,520
can watch Anchorman and I don't
think about it being Will

830
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,480
Ferrell, Right.
Like, like you watch not

831
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,240
Roadhouse.
What's what's the old school?

832
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:03,880
You watch old school and you're
like, oh, yeah, that that's Will

833
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,840
Ferrell.
And you watch Step Brothers and

834
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,480
you're like, Oh yeah, that's
Will Ferrell.

835
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,520
I don't look at Anchorman and
think of Will Ferrell.

836
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,400
It's Ron Burgundy.
Like, I don't know if there's

837
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,880
ever been a character that has
been better brought to life to

838
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,600
the point where I forget that
one of the most famous movie

839
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,400
stars of all time, the most
famous comedic movie stars of

840
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,200
all time is the actor.
It's just that's Ron Burgundy.

841
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,760
He's a real human being.
That was a real Anchorman back

842
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,800
in the 1970s.
And I think like Ebert nailed it

843
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:42,000
in his review of this movie when
he said, like this movie

844
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,760
succeeds most when it's only a
degree or two away from real

845
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,960
life.
Like when the when the news

846
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,400
anchors are laughing about a
squirrel that can jet ski and

847
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,800
you're like, yeah, I like I grew
up in the 90s and I saw stuff

848
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,440
like that on the news because my
parents had the news on before

849
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,920
we went to school, when we got
home from school.

850
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,840
And sometimes they're like 11 O
clock O clock news if we're up

851
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,520
late on a Friday night.
Like we watched the news all the

852
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:14,760
time and I saw stuff like that.
And so the rest of it all falls

853
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,200
into place because when he's
sitting there pre show going

854
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,800
Scotch, Scotch, Scotch or like
complimenting the rack on the

855
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,480
girl in front of him, like
you're like, yeah, I believe

856
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,840
that that happened in reality.
And so that for me is what makes

857
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,560
this movie have such an enduring
quality, despite the fact that I

858
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,280
agree with the 7.1 it has on
IMDb.

859
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,440
Here's the thing, you know, this
movie comes out a year after

860
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,840
Elf.
And I think that in a lot of

861
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,520
ways, Elf and Anchorman are his
two best comedic performances,

862
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,560
but for like, wildly different
reasons.

863
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,440
And you brought up Step
Brothers.

864
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,880
I think even by the time you get
to step brothers, Will Ferrell

865
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,440
has really like, settled into
his movie star persona.

866
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,400
You know, even the year after
this movie, like Talladega

867
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,600
Nights, Ricky Bobby is funny,
but it's Will Ferrell playing

868
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,200
Ricky Bobby.
You're not actually like

869
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,520
engrossed and engulfed in the
world of Ricky Bobby as much as

870
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,440
it's like this is Will Ferrell
doing a funny character.

871
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,040
And so from then on, every
performance he gives is kind of

872
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,560
just a variation of the Will
Ferrell persona.

873
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,200
But I feel like Buddy the Elf
and Ron Burgundy like really

874
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,520
exist and stand on their own
feet and he kind of immersed

875
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,000
himself in those characters, but
they do two different things.

876
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,000
So like the Buddy the Elf
character is kind of your SNL

877
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
character.
It's like a super hyper

878
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,720
specific.
This is an elf who a man who was

879
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,680
raised by elves.
Let's see how much mileage we

880
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,120
can get out of this.
And the way that they keep that

881
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,720
from feeling like a 90 minute
skit is they make that movie

882
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:55,800
very plot heavy and like there's
a lot of characters getting

883
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,280
exposition.
It's a very well written movie

884
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,360
and it moves from scene to scene
really logically.

885
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,600
The other way to get around that
is what he did with Ron

886
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,400
Burgundy, which is like, this is
not a very specific character.

887
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,000
He's just like 70s Anchorman.
And let's like, of course we can

888
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,480
just decide that he's good at
playing jazz flute too.

889
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,160
Like, why not?
That'll make a funny scene.

890
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,280
Yazz Flute, he's.
Kind of a blank canvas, aside

891
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,840
from just being like a
chauvinistic Anchorman.

892
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,640
And because of that, you can
drop him into 20 consecutive

893
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,600
skits and it doesn't feel old.
So I just think it's funny how

894
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,760
those two movies, like they both
work really well, but for

895
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,960
completely different reasons.
Yeah, I I'd like that's dude.

896
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,920
That is the beauty of movies and
cinema is that you get actors

897
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,520
who become known for certain
things, but with the right

898
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,040
script and the right director
and the right crew, you can

899
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,080
throw them in wildly different
situations and it's going to

900
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,880
work both ways.
And the opposite can also be

901
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,960
true.
Like, you have an action movie

902
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:03,560
star in Tom Cruise, and yet The
Mummy was The Mummy, right?

903
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:09,000
Like there's all sorts of peaks
and valleys in people's careers

904
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,600
and IT and IT.
You just never know quite which

905
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,880
little bit of movie magic is
going to work for any individual

906
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,880
movie.
All right, Brad, I think that is

907
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,120
a perfect place to get into our
last segment of the day, which

908
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,360
we call Let's Make it a Double.
We're near the end of the

909
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,720
episodes of Things listening to
the film and Whiskey Show.

910
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,280
Let's have another film with
this one, even if it's

911
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,160
struggling, it's the final
segment of the day.

912
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,840
Now let's Make It a double.
Let's Make It a Double is the

913
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,080
part of the show where we pick a
movie to pair up with this one

914
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:39,440
to make the perfect double
feature?

915
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,040
Brad, I'd love to hear from you
first.

916
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,720
What's getting paired up with
Anchorman here 'cause we've

917
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:47,680
referenced a ton of movies today
and I think any of them kind of

918
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,200
work.
This is a comedy classic we're

919
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,320
talking about.
Yeah, dude, there are so many

920
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,800
movies that you could go with
here.

921
00:52:57,240 --> 00:53:02,440
I'm, I'm trying to think that I
have like a few that I'm

922
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,200
thinking about.
I think that pop star never

923
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,400
stop, never stopping would be a
good option.

924
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,160
It's it has such great
performances.

925
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:20,160
I think I think I'm going to
pair it with Zoolander from

926
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:26,800
2001, mostly because I think
it's a perfect example of like

927
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:33,640
taking a industry, making fun of
it and having lots of memorable

928
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,120
1 liners from the film.
I think that between Zoolander

929
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:43,000
and Anchorman, like that's it
dude. 2 great movies from the

930
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,840
from kind of the same era.
Yeah, for sure, dude.

931
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,720
I'm going to go kind of in the
same like realm as you because I

932
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:55,160
feel like I wanted to pair this
up with a movie that honored the

933
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,840
roots of McKay and Will Ferrell
and the idea of sketch comedy

934
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,320
and even some improv.
And there is a great little

935
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,160
comedy troupe that's on SNL now
called Please Don't Destroy.

936
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,160
They do the digital skits every
week.

937
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,680
They're basically like The
Lonely Island.

938
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,640
So you you had mentioned pop
star never stopping.

939
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,280
They actually made a movie, I
want to say in 2023, and it was

940
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,520
the victim of studios now not
wanting to release studio

941
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,400
comedies in theater, so they
dumped it on freaking Peacock or

942
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,600
something.
And so the name of the movie is

943
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:32,280
Please Don't Destroy Colon.
The Treasure of Foggy Mountain.

944
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,000
It is bro.
It's the funniest movie I've

945
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,920
seen in like 5 years.
It absolutely deserves to be

946
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,960
talked about in the same league
as a movie like Pop star because

947
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,680
there are so few really good
studio comedies that have been

948
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,320
made this century and I want
people to go watch this movie.

949
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,040
It is once again an hour and 32
minutes long.

950
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,440
It's one of the funniest movies
I've seen in years and years.

951
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,160
It's called the Treasure of
Foggy Mountain.

952
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,040
Go watch it.
It's probably on Peacock still.

953
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,040
That's my let's make it a double
Brad.

954
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,800
Dude, Zoolander one hour and 29
minutes I.

955
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,160
Love Zoolander so much we have
to do it on the show soon.

956
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:13,280
Too we've that that could be a
Patreon bonus episode for this

957
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,840
season.
Cause man, oh man, what a great

958
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,880
movie.
And you know, I'm just going to

959
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,200
say it.
We're going to do it for Patreon

960
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:22,520
eventually.
And if you want to join the

961
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,160
patron and hear that Zoolanders
episode sometime,

962
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,040
patreon.com/filmwhiskey.
There's a few different tiers.

963
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,640
You get all sorts of bonus
content.

964
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,880
Check it out.
All right, man, let's give this

965
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,520
movie some final scores.
I'll go ahead and go first.

966
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,680
Brad.
I don't know if this is a good

967
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,120
movie.
It is like it is like a nine out

968
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:48,280
of 10 or a 10 out of 10 comedy.
It's like a 5 or 6 movie.

969
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,320
So I'm going to split the
difference.

970
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,640
I will give this a 7.5 out of 10
Brad.

971
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,040
Oh man, I'll give it an 8 out of
10.

972
00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:02,160
OK, I, I, like you, gave the
exact perfect definition of

973
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,840
where this movie ought to sit.
There's a lot of tension in me

974
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,400
'cause like middle school, Brad
wants to give it a 10 out of 10.

975
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,520
And I think for nostalgia's
sake, I'll I'll come up to an 8.

976
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,600
But I think 7/7 and 1/2 is
probably the accurate scoring

977
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,080
for this movie.
All right, so it's a 7 1/2 for

978
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,080
me and it's an 8 from Brad,
right?

979
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,120
So correct, 7.75 on average.
But we'd like to know what you

980
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,200
guys think.
Are we just film snobs?

981
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,320
Are we not giving Anchorman
enough credit?

982
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,720
We are talking about one of the
all time classics here.

983
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,000
You can let us know on any of
our social media accounts

984
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,880
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
Tiktok, YouTube at Film Whiskey.

985
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,080
Or if you guys want, we have a
discord channel.

986
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,760
We're on there everyday talking
to people who like movies and

987
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,920
whiskey and all sorts of other
crazy stuff.

988
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,600
We have a great community, so if
you want to join that discord,

989
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,880
join the join the conversation.
You can find a link to it at the

990
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,480
end of every single one of our
show notes.

991
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,680
Brad, do you know what I love
about doing this podcast?

992
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,200
It's that we can go from a movie
like Anchorman and then throw it

993
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:11,720
all the way back to next week's
episode, 1957's 12 Angry Men,

994
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,240
which are, you know, clearly
equivalent cinematic

995
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:18,560
masterpieces.
So please join us next week for

996
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,880
that Sydney Lumet classic 12
Angry Men.

997
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:25,200
But until then, I'm Bob Book.
And I'm just asking you, Bob, is

998
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,680
it possible?
Is it possible?

999
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,520
Brad G Is it?
Possible.

1000
00:57:28,760 --> 00:58:02,480
And we'll see you next time.
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