Faye Webster Takes Off

00:00:15 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hey there, it's justin Richmond. Today we're gonna hear a chat with one of my favorite artists from twenty twenty one, Atlanta singer songwriter Faye Webster. We'll get into her backstory in a minute, but first let's hear her perform the title song off her new album, I Know I'm Funny ha ha live from the Shangarlock control room. Let's see. Don drink some sugame and we can argue out the same thing. Talk about neighbors, food, I wonder thing moving. I hope they don't know my one personally some of it told them offt in this thing. The fucking he kept my money you m h. I think your sister's so pretty good drunken afy could they met me? I made her laugh one time at dinner. She said, I'm funny. No I think too. I know I'm funny. Ha ha hm m M. I don't know. I keep China on. We go through faces overs, but now we both won will be rock stars. Got you base last June birthday, same one the garphone linkin park Place. M you look better with it anyways. That was Faye Webster performing her song I Know I'm Funny ha ha. Fay stopped by Changarla earlier this month, in between stops on her tour opening for Wilco. The twenty four year old singer Songwriters started releasing music independently when she was just sixteen years old. In twenty seventeen, her second album was released through Awful Records, home to the Atlanta hip hop collective. Faye was a bit of an outlier on that rap heavy label, but working with them gave her a different perspective on recording than she otherwise would have had. In the years since, Faye Webster has gotten critical acclaim from Rolling Stone and Pitchfork, and even ended up with a coveted placement on Barack Obama's twenty twenty Spotify playlist. On today's episode, I talked to Faye about artists like The Ramones and Garth Brooks influencing her writing style. Faye also played some songs live, as well as an early demo version of her song Years. This is broken record liner notes for the digital age. I'm justin Richmond. Here's my conversation with Fay Webster. How long you've been on tour already? Like for this tour only like two weeks. It's kind of short this stretch, but we had just got off tour from a month long tour before this. Yeah, okay on the East Coast. Was that your first tour back? It was? How was that? Going back at it? It was fun. I feel like the first like three shows were like weird, but after the fourth shows like, oh, this is completely like I understand because like the past year, I just been like sitting at home. So it's just like I forgot like how stressful of a hustle touring is. But it's also like such a normal thing to me at this point. Nice. So I think you just took a second to get back into the groove. Did you enjoy just staying at home for like a year year and a half? Yeah, I left it, Yeah I did, because when I'm not touring, I'm just like that's what I'm doing. Anyways, it's very normal to me. When did you first start toy? I think my first tour was twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen, so how old were you? I was born in ninety seven, right, so I think that sounds about right because my first tour I wasn't old enough to drink and then I went to Europe and I could drink there because the drinking age is low. I remember getting like a really drunken Europe on my first tour, and I like left my guitar and like some crazy city that I could not get back to. Um. I think I was in Glasgow, and then I think I went back to London or something without damn, I was hungover as buck and I left my guitar in Glasgow. That sucks any other good tour stories. Probably my concept of time is so messed up. Yeah, when I'm touring and I feel like I don't think of things until it's like, oh yeah, like I remember that, It's like when was that? Where was that? But I don't know, I have no idea. It's funny because I feel like for most people who don't like just go on tour, most people felt like the last year kind of warped time for them, like they had no way to kind of measure or account time. But for you, it was just like that might not have been the case. It's like normal if touring life just your normal sort of life is a musician cause you just sort of have that not being tethered to time, feeling yeah, was it like different for you then the pandemic. Do think you experienced it different? I guess so. I feel like it's so different per person anyways, you know. But I feel like over the pandemic time like flew by somehow, but also like it was nice because it's just like in the moment. But tour, it's like last week seems like last month to me right now when you're actually moving around, how do you enjoy it? I do. I feel like I enjoy both, Like I enjoy being home, but I also like I enjoy being on tour. It's like when I'm on tour, I'm like I can't wait to get home, and then when I'm home, I'm like, I can't wait to get on tour. And I was just going through this cycle for the rest of my life. When you were younger, did you want to be a professional musician? I go out, like to make a living touring and making records or not really, I mean I wanted to make music, and then it was like it wasn't like senior year of high school and there was actually pressure and it was like, hey, what do you want to do when you grew up? And like that moment of just like applying to colleges and stuff. I was like, I guess this is the only thing I know how to do. But I wasn't like, oh, I can't wait to be a touring musician and like putting out records. It was just like, I play music. That's all I know what to do right now, right, And I feel like that just like escalated into what it is. And you would already put out a record by that point, right, your first very first record, Yeah, you would put out in high school? Yeah I did. Yeah, Well, got you started playing music? Got you interested? My brother plays music and he's a few years older than me, So I feel like kind of just like sitting in my room and hearing him through the walls in the house, I was just like, that's kind of cool. What was he playing? Um? He was like a Ramones Fane and like whatever, like classic rock my dad listened to. I feel like he kind of fell into that. So yeah, he was just like in the basement setting up shitty amps and stuff, shitty microphones and just like playing music, playing blitz greeg bop. Yeah was it? And this was in Atlanta? Yes? Cool? When do you start discovering like the larger music scene Atlanta. When does that happen? Not? So like high school, I was playing open mics all the time because there's the only chance I had to play songs not in my bedroom. And I think that's when I started to meet people and be like, there's music that exists. That's not what my parents are listening to. That's not what my brothers listening to. Like that's crazy. I feel like it wasn't untill like high school that I figured that out. Wow were you writing at that time? Like, were you like the songs you're playing at the open mics? Yeah, I mean they sucked, but I was, yeah, I was writing songs. What got you writing? I don't know. I feel like when I learned a guitar, I was just playing covers over and over and like even going to guitar lessons, I would just print out lyrics and they would just like write the chord above the lyric, like what it's time to change to the chord, And I feel like, I mean, I have like ten binders full of these lessons, So I feel like I was just like, maybe I should try to write my own songs to where they can't do this to my songs like they can't tell me what to play when you know, would you take those into your teacher or would you would you just quit lessons? And like, oh, eventually I switched teachers and I started off with like a guitar teacher, and then I went to like, oh, maybe I'll try a songwriting teacher, and I would just like play songs. Just kind of terrifying because they wrote good songs and I didn't feel like I didn't even think about it, being like I want to write my own songs. I think I just like started doing it from all those guitar lessons that I first took, where they just wrote the chords above the lyrics. I feel like that's kind of when I like, I would eventually choose to change the key of songs just to like play those chords. Are those are the chords? Like if you sit down the guitar, you just start playing those more often than not. Flick. Yes. I don't even know who they are and I truly cannot tell you. And are there any songs that you've written using like those exactly those chords? Uh? Yeah, a lot? Anything you can play? Um, do you want to play a song? Sure? Student to want something better. It's been my time but nothing so pepe nothing you were so long for me to I'm so alone and here I'm with me. I went to what in such you mind? You seem pretty lucky butt and leave little fully up too same she wastes and no change his name and make it my will you William? Will you will you will you? Will you be with me? Will you will you will you will you Willia? Will you be with me? M try to eat truth, sleep, but everything seems born to me. I don't know what to do. Got to friendsic see but they cut two jobs and a baby. I just want to see pending on her time apart. But the distractions are in there, insental wor only two A couple times thought you hear your likes, but I figured it will you will you will you will you will you will it be with me? Oh you will Lee bees, will you will you? Who you leep? Busy O beus O two chord songs. It's different, nice fucking love that man like you have a really nice groove. There's also a lot of repetition in your songs, which are like well won two chords like you said yeah, like the will you will you, and I feel like I appreciate that in songwriting, just like sometimes like it should just be simple, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like you can play two chords and write a song. You can play two chords and write a good song. The little things that get overlooked is the cool shit to me, influence creeping Yeah goodness, it's no shame in that it doesn't love the Ramons. Yeah, we'll be right back with Fay Webster. After a quick break, we're back with more from my conversation with Fay Webster. Do you remember the first song you wrote? Yeah, the first song I wrote, I literally just like used the same melody as a Miley Cyrus song and I changed the words, And I remember my best friend got so mad at me, and she was like delete this audio file, like you're going to get sued, Like we're like an elementary school. Like I was in like fifth grade, So I don't even remember what it was, like what it egan was. I just remember like I just changed the changed the lyrics, used the same melody, and I was like I wrote a song. My friends like no, what Miley song? What what song did you change it was? I think it's just called I miss you, okay, I don't know. It's like very early. It was like I was really into the song that she wrote with her dad on the airplane. I don't know that one on the show and my dad. I don't really get these references, but I don't Miley, how'd you record that? I feel like my brothers had like cool stuff, especially since he's older. Both of them were into like making movies for a little bit, so they had like the zoom recorder and like cool shit connected to our PC. And I feel like maybe I did it there. I don't even know. So fifth grade you started writing and recording like the earliest stuff. Yeah, which is crazy to think about because I don't remember writing songs in fifth grade. But I remember, like performing at my fifth grade graduation in one of your songs. They did, but I sang the real one, Oh, the real one, not your Okay, I should have seen your version. I know. Did you play guitar? I performed that Did you play the guitar? And was playing guitar? Wow, that's fucking impressive for a fifth grader. But the first one I ever learned was Lola the Kinks. Yeah, it's the first one I ever learned. I don't know why. I guess because my brother. Yeah, it's classic rock radio staple, but the Kinks are incredible. Yeah, so classic rock punk rock early on, like a Ramons at least is what you were. That's just what you're hearing around the house. Yeah, or like that's what my dad would play and my brother, but then my mom would play like western swing music, which I think I gravitated towards more like Texas playboys and yeah, like a Sleep at the Wheel was one of our favorite bands growing up. Wow, Alison Krause, Garth Brooks, shit like that, Alison Krause, that's a really I don't know, that's that's pretty evolved taste. I feel like, do you think so? I feel like it makes so much sense. And that's interesting you say that because I've said that to people before and they're like, really, well, my mom is from Texas and like grew up listening to like soft country like that. I feel like they she just put me on before she put on all of y'all. Man, So what was it about Alison Krass that drew you in? Definitely her voice. I was like, this is crazy, like it truly sounds unreal. Like a cgi vocal woid. It's just like too perfect all the time. It's heavenly. But I also like that she played the violin. Yeah, I like tried to take violin lessons a bunch and I just sucked. I was so bad at it. I was like, I can't do this. But it's also like, I mean, growing up, I would only hear male artists, So I feel like, finally when my mom started playing me Alison Cross, I was like, oh, like girls can do this too. Yeah, that's fucking sick. She was very inspirational for me. And I gotta say, if you're only hearing male artis, especially if it's like the Ramones and like Zeppelin, you know, like your usual like her voice would really cut through the noise. Truly, I'm not super familiar with Atlanta. When I think of Atlanta, I think really great R and B, really great hip hop, you know, like I guess there's rock and roll bands around, Like I don't really you know, but I don't really think of it like that way. Was that like were you plugged into that stuff growing up? Was were you hearing that? I mean born in ninety seven, Like, yeah, everything's hitting at that I like Atlanta because it's just like there's everything. It's like what do you want? And then you can find that there. You can go see like a garage rock band, and you can also go see like sick ass rep and R and B artist, and you can also go see like singers long writers at like a weird open mic. I don't know, it's like I really appreciate that about Atlanta. So once you got to high school sort of finding your own music, what were you finding? I feel like I was that's when I was finding like folk music or like folk rock music. I was listening to Daz's record Nothing Is Wrong a Lot in high School is one of my favorite records in high school. How did you end up recording your first record in high school? My friend had moved to Nashville, so I was just like going there a lot and it was just like it was really my dad that was like, you're you're playing these open mics all the time and then you have like nothing to give to people. I'm like, okay, do they even want something? Like I didn't even know, but I had these songs and it was just like I knew so many people in Nashville that made music. And how'd you know people there because my friend moved there that I met also in like the open mic stuff. When she moved, I would just like go visit her and like sing with her and like play music with her. It's recorded really well. It's just like in a house. I recorded both my first two records, and just like bedrooms. You had an engineer obviously on that, right, Yeah, because it's recorded, it makes sense that I haven't listened to it. And so long did you play anything off of that record? Stof No, I barely play stuff off my self titled record. Do you feel connection to any of the songs anymore? Definitely not my first record. There's some songs on my self title that I'm like, this still represents me in some way, Like at one point it did really well and it doesn't anymore. But I still like there's moments where I'm like, I enjoyed playing the song because it makes me feel like I just started playing music again. My Self Titled was when I was just like, oh, I'm taking this seriously now, how do you get from that self titled or from the first record to the self titled which was like it's pretty experimental for like, yeah, Rold you might have been at the time. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like the first one is like very Nashville esque, and then when I realized that I don't like Nashville, Like, I was just spending more time back home in Atlanta, and like my brothers moved to Athens, so I was spending a lot of time in Athens. And just the music scene in Athens is really really sick. What's that like? It's just like I literally call shit like Athens rock, Like I don't know what you call it, but it's like so I feel like it's it's like specific. Is there like a band we could listen to or something? Well, Rim is from Athens. Oh, I didn't realize that my brother's in a really cool band called way Yuka, but the wigs are from Athens. I don't know. It's kind of iconic. And I was just like spending a lot of time there and they had like shows and stuff that I feel like Atlanta didn't really have the same like intimate vibe as Athens did. A small town, I don't know, I think so, And just like it's also so supportive the way that Atlanta is supportive. So I was spending also a lot of time in the air, and that's when I was like meeting my brother's friends that make music and like truly experiencing like what it's like to be at a show or like what it's like to like watch somebody record music. And that's when I just like clicked with it and I've made on all the rest of my records there. But I don't know, it's really sick. How did you get on Awful Records for that second record? I was just a fan. I was literally a fan and was like messaging Etherial a lot, just like sending my music, and he would like send me his music eat humans would like sell photoprints at their shows and I would like buy photos from him and just like became friends. And then I think like the year I dropped out of college, I was just with them every day because I was just like watching and learning. And then when it got time for me to put out another record, they were just like like, you're already here. You're already here every day, Like why don't you just like do this with us? And how would you explain that label to people? I feel like maybe not. It's really like it was like a collective. Like it didn't feel like I was on a label. It just felt like I was a part of a collective people that just like made cool shit. And it wasn't even like all musicians. It was a very good learning experience, an iconic like in Atlanta specifically, right, Yeah. I mean to me, I was like when I joined, I was like, even though I've been around these people all day, it's like still some some people And I'm like, that's crazy that, like you want to hang out with me, Like I've just listened to your music for like so long and like idolize you guys at the time, would you say it was like pretty local, like a local yeah thing. Yeah, it really was. I don't know, it was so iconic. Yeah, I feel like I would I would have not wanted to have it any other way. It's really like unique stuff and it reminds me like not in not in terms of like the production sound, but just in terms of the vibe like of like the Memphis like the old Memphis cassette tape like rap scene like back in the nineties, or or even like the Bay Area rap scene, Like it just has its own really distinctive, unique sound that you don't hear anywhere else. Yeah, when I listened to those off When I listened to those songs from from Off, Agree, what was it like collaborating with them? I feel like everything was like so di iy in like a way that I prefer, Like I prefer to make music in a bedroom with friends, and I feel like, just like watching people just like make music when they felt like it was something I had never really seen before. Like I was so used to like people just sitting on songs forever and perfecting it and like I'm not going to make a record till I have twelve songs ready, and this way, it just felt like when they made music, it was like that's what it's supposed to sound like in this moment, which is kind of how I like to record to this day because it's like, yeah, I just wrote a song and it's like I need to get this off my chest now. Yeah, it's like if you sit on it for a month, like you might just like alter it or change it. And I feel like watching Awful record, just like one take it was like sound good, y'all, sound good to be like, let's put it out tomorrow, And I was like, dang, that's like what people should do more often and how you how would you put them out? We were using SoundCloud a lot, and were you making physical copies of things at all? No? Actually, my Self Titled didn't come out on vinyl until last year. Really, Yeah, so I never had records until AMC. That was like the first time I was like really making records. That's cool. The songs and yourself Titled? Were those all written pretty quickly then and just recorded? Or were those songs that you'd been building from the time you did your first record. I was kind of building them, but I was recording them one by one, Like I think to make that record it took over a year because I would write a song and then drive to Athens and like play it and record it and then go back home and start over. You have a very different sound from most things on that label, yeah, like or in that collective? Was you music like a weird fit in a way for that? Or I mean I never felt like an outcast, Like I felt like that's where I belonged at the time, But it was also like, oh, yeah, they don't know what to do with me like like that, like I can't record like a whole band set up in this bedroom, Like I have to like go somewhere else and do this. What is it about the live band that you feel like works for your songwriting in your performance style? Like you never got tempted to just like write a song and like just do a quick production in your bedroom, right like on Ableton or something. I don't know how to use. I literally record all my vocals on garage band on all of my records. That's great, um, but I don't know. I mean I grew up playing instruments, so it was just like I only knew instruments like my I love singing on ship, but it's like I could never make this, Like I can only like build instrument after instrument. I feel like it's kind of just all I've known how to do, like like dip into that world. But like then yeah, go back to You can send me a song and I'll sing on it, but I cannot make this unless you teach me how to use pro tool? Can you write to someone else's song? Like if someone sends you something and they're like, hey, can you or do usually send you lyrics? Just like hey sing this or will you come up with your own home? No? Yeah, I'll write my own works. How different is that for you than It's very different, But I feel like that was like one of the biggest things I also took out of being on Awful is like just because we're in the same room together and you happen to want to make music right now, it's like I'm the only person in the room, so it's like I'm on the song like just by de Vault. So yeah, it's like I just kind of learned and like experimented that way, just like when it wasn't me in the spotlight and like somebody wanted to just like lend my voice or something. We'll be right back with my conversation with Fay Webster after a quick break. We're back with more from a Conversation with a Webster. Did you grow up playing in a band at all? No, I didn't. My brother did, but I did not. Have some members of your band with you today. How long have you been playing with these guys pistol and I'm a pedal steel player. We've been playing together for seven years now. That's kind of how I started, Like I feel like I was playing music and then I added him to the band, and then from there on for the rest of the time. It's just like who let's play with me and pistol, Like, who, let's be in our band? How did you guys meet? I knew I wanted pedal steel because it's just what I grew up listening too. And every time I said, hey, can you help me find a pedal steel player, it was like thirty people said the same person. There's nobody else, like like, this is the player that you need. That's cool. Let's have a hard time founding like a bass player, like a drum like a good drummer, you know, but like it's a high bar to find like a pedal steel player. Yeah, it's like we're really going to do this if I found, you know, right, found someone. But it's like you just have to like wait and really find the people that just like have the chemistry and get you and I don't have to explain shit, like you know what I mean, like just people that help me represent what I'm trying to get across. Do you always play in studio and live like the same? Yeah, crew, we always record everything live. That's great, and then I go home and redo vocals at my kitchen. That's so funny. What is it about like a band that helps you write. I think it's more just like I have this song, and I've written this song, and it's like, how can I make the best representation of me in this song if other people are going to hear it? Like I truly wanted to be the best representation it could be. So what's the process then, Like who would you go to first? You have? I don't show anybody until we're in the studio. I don't share I don't even like share it with our engineer, just because I don't want people like plotting on it be like oh this part, like it's so good to play something right here, and I feel like that kind of just like ruined not ruins it, but like I feel like in the moment is when it's more like, oh I just played that and it sounded good, So like let's just do that again, right, and like record it this time please? So you want people come up with their part. It's like on the spot, not truly reconceived, like oh I could do this and that's interesting. It doesn't happen a lot anymore. Yeah, which is I feel like from the other side of it, like if it wasn't my song and somebody made me come to the studio and record on demand, I would be freaked out, but yeah, it's nice to be the only one that knows what's about to happen, right, going from the self title to Atlanta Millionaires Club, What was the jump there? Like? How did you go from those songs in that place, putting it out through Awful and then going to like atlant A Millionaires Club. I don't know. I feel like it was just like a natural evolution and it's not even that different of a record, Like I feel like throughout my three main records, there's always a song from the latter record that could have been on the earlier one, but not the one too before it. Otherwise it would have just been like this weird out of place song, Like too quick of an evolution, I feel like. But I don't know. I feel like it was just like the right time and place. I met secretly Canadian who I love and they just like feel like family to me at this point, and I just had more songs and I was like cains, like, I guess it's time to put out another record, And I feel like that's kind of when I noticed that it wasn't just like family listening to my stuff. Like, I feel like that's when I kind of like got put on the radar. It was truly the perfect time and perfect place in my life. You were saying, how there's like always a song like that wouldn't fit like a couple of albums ago, but probably within the last but I feel like there's and there's also I mean, your albums are like super very, and there's always a song that it feels like it's just a complete outlier just in general, you know, yeah, like a landa Millionaire's Club, Like Flowers feels like a like a very, you know, and there's a couple even like Kingston sounds a little different than some of the others exactly. It's like that could have been on myself titled, but it feels on Run and Tell, then it would have been like, yeah, like who just hopped on the sticks? And then like on this new one too cheers. Yeah, even Overslept sounds kind of different from the rest of the Rapier. Yeah, could have been on AMC Like on those songs that are kind of outliers. Do you look to make a song that's very different from the rest of the album, or is it just happen. It really just happens, because I mean when I'm writing these songs at home by myself, like they're all pretty fucking similar, Like there's like they sound like they come out like you was the writing them songs all right home. It's just me being quiet as trying to write a song. And then it's like, there's no way that my shitty Cheers demo from my kitchen table sounds like what Cheers sounds like. But it's just like when it was time to like all sit together and save room and play it, it was like, oh, like this is how it has to sound or it's just gonna be weird. Was it always as loud as it was? I don't remember. I should go find the demo, but like I write songs on an acoustic guitar at home, so it's not like I'm like fucking rocking out. But then one and then once you took it to the band, though, like, was it like pretty like right away? Did it truly? Was? Really? Yeah? I feel like that song specifically, like people were scrambling because I started playing it. It's just like, oh, like it should definitely sound this way. But I don't own any cool shit. So I was just like people were like pulling pedals out of closets and stuff because I was like, my my guitar is just like I just pluged straight into my amp all the time. But yeah, just like ended up like that who cheers during the pandemic? Oh here it is. It's called it used to be called cheers to each other? And I was like, that's a horrible name. This is risky bad name. Sorry, it does kind of sound like that. It sounds exactly like the record. Let me see that. The chorus sounds like that sounds pretty pretty really good in your demos. It's just like at my in my badge in my kitchen, fucking great voice, thank you. That's crazy. Ever since I heard the album, and I heard the song before that albu because it came out before the album, but in a good way. The Spanish guitar or the classical guitar, whatever it'd be, I guess called on that song. How like, how did that happen? Yeah? Well, I feel like when I started to write a lot, that's when I was like, I think I'm gonna like just try and buy different guitars because every guitar play makes me write something completely different. Like there's songs that I just like wrote on the classical guitar that I could have not written on my harmony, etc. And there's also moments in the studio where it's like the band is playing, it's like, bro, this is not the one for the pedal steel, or like bro, this is not the one for the worldly like and you need to go with like you know what I mean. Like it's just certain moments I feel like that song specifically was like this is how I wrote it, So I feel like that's what it like, let's switch it up. And I feel like I didn't really switch it up until AMC and ha ha. It was when I was really like, let's try playing other stuff. You wrote that song on a classical guitar. Yeah, really, And I only had like obviously my rhythm guitar and my vocals, and then I put like just the classical guitar, uh, like mimicking part on my demo? Do you mind playing a bit of a good way? Sure? I didn't know being usual me. I didn't know good from me too. He makes me on a crap hie on a good week. He makes me want a crab hie on a good wine. He makes me want a crab hie on a good week. He makes me want a crab high on a good wine. You ain't just as much as me, don't you. I can feel it when we took and I know you've been having my mind slately and I'm sorry A full sleep food. You make me Hi good. You make me crew Hi a good one. You make me a crew Hi cood. You make me a crew Hi one. Fuck this fucking nuts? And did you know you're gonna have the feature on overslept or how it? Or did that you wanted a feature? I just knew I wanted when because I just like, truly cannot finish it. And I was obsessed with me Yihara. I am obsessed though, but yeah, I was like, if she's not on it, then, to be honest, I'm fake. If I got anybody else on this record right now, I'm fake. What attracts you to her? And then also what made you? Have you heard her music? Yeah, she's so good and I feel like the first time I heard her, I was just like is this me? Like? Is this me and my band playing this song I've never heard before? Like I feel so similar to her? But it's also like her brain thinks of stuff I can't think of, but like that I wish I thought of you know what I mean, Just like the instrumentation and shit on her records are so good. Yeah, I'm just like, fuck, I wish I thought of that. I really appreciate, like especially in like old Western swing music, just like the really cheesy, classic traditional duo songs. Yeah, would you say countries like your main Like is that? Like is that the music you listen to the most? Would you say? Or even? But I feel like that is like perhaps the strongest route that I have. Then it's like from there, I'll just like add on other shit that inspires me. I feel like it does stem from country music. Yeah, it's funny because I never really thought of you. But like, you know, there's like obviously the pedal steel is kind of like a giveaway that you're into country, but like the songs don't sound particularly country at all. You know, there's so many different like elements in your tracks. You know, It's like there's a little bit of everything, and a lot of the songs, you know, like there's a lot of R and B feel, it's like a good R and B feel on a lot good like folk feel some country with the pedal steel and then even with like the adding the classical guitar, like the doubling on the on in a good way. It's like that sounds like a classic like ballad, you know, like move or something, and it's like all that stuff kind of like just collides in a really cool way. But I didn't really think of it as like country, like I do you when you hear songs when you write songs? Do you almost hear them most country songs? First? Not really, But it's just like the way that I know format is just like country music format, and what what do you mean? Just like even the chords that I prefer to write with that just feel like is a good representation of me and I just like use them a lot or just like like I said, the classic format of like okay versus then chords the like you know, Like I don't know, I feel like it definitely all does stem from just like growing up in years and years of listening to country music. Do you mind playing a couple of those cours just showing the chords that you is one of my favorite chords? Just curious, like what chords he gravitates us. See Jeff Tweedy was talking one time about how it just naturally every time he plays he plays a g You just like that's just the Cordy ghost too. Really, Yeah, that's it. I've definitely enjoyed watching Jeff play guitar every night. Also, the first show we played with him, I was like, are you not using in years? No? He was like, no, if if it's not coming out of a monitor, doesn't sound like music to me. He's that crazy. Have you been hanging with them a lot on tour. I haven't really been an opener in a very long time, so I kind of forgot what it's like, what it's like, But I really like and appreciate just like the offstage set up that they have, Like I feel like every venue we have played it's been like very like community space, backstage nice, and it's just like you're always running into people. You're always like hearing shit. Like they have a jam room before they go on stage, and it's like that's cool. I never thought about to warm up before, like the jam out together on a jam ra. Yeah, it's like, dang, like I don't know, it's so cool. Wow, have you gone into the jam room. You know, I'm scared. I don't want to touch their stuff. I'm like, I probably can't afford this. I'm not gonna touch it. If I was on tour with them, I probably just asked Nell's climb like a thousand and one questions. Dude, Nells is my favorite person to talk to. I told him in Vegas. I was like, my favorite guitar player is KK Slider And He's like, I don't know who that is. I don't know who that is either, And I was like, hell yeah, beat you at your own game. And the next day he looked him up and came back and we talked about it. It's been beautiful having you. Oh yeah, thank you so much. This has been beautiful. Thanks to Faye Webster for coming through Shango Law and playing for us. You can check out a playlist of all of our favorite Faye Webster songs at Broken Record Podcast. Are you sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube dot com slash Broken Record Podcast. We can find all of our new episodes. You can follow us on Twitter at broken Record. 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