July 5, 2025

What Would You Do With 12 Monitors?

What Would You Do With 12 Monitors?
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What Would You Do With 12 Monitors?
What Would You Do With 12 Monitors?

Send us feedback/questions via Text Jim has 12 monitors, and the chat room can't get over it. He explains how he uses them and if it keeps him warm in the winter. Check the chapters for other topics. Sponsors: PodcastBranding.co - They see you before they hear you Basedonastruestorypodcast.com - Comparing Hollywood with History? Video Version Mentioned In This Episode School of Podcasting https://www.schoolofpodcasting.com/join Podpage http://www.trypodpage.com Home Gadget Geeks https://www.h...

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00:00 - Introduction and Technical Glitches

00:25 - Meet the Hosts: Dave and Jim

01:22 - Post 4th of July Reflections

02:11 - Podcast Branding.co

03:23 - Based On A True Story Podcast

04:13 - Live Call Demonstration

05:59 - New Podcast Features and Listener Interaction

11:22 - Podcasting Tips and Listener Questions

25:44 - Jim's Multi-Monitor Setup

34:09 - Final Thoughts and Lighthearted Questions

39:09 - Dual Monitor Setup Tips

40:48 - Dealing with Monitor Glare

45:12 - Seasonal Podcast Stats

48:17 - Paid Collaborations and Guest Appearances

50:27 - Thank You Supporters

51:06 - Join the School of Podcasting

51:20 - Try Podpage

51:28 - Home Gadget Geeks

51:39 - Ecamm Live

52:01 - Grow Your YouTube with Vid IQ

52:34 - Supporter of the Week Ross Brand

54:34 - Promoting Your Podcast on LinkedIn

01:08:15 - Engaging Your Podcast Audience

01:15:19 - Podcast Advertising and Giveaways

01:21:27 - Taking a Break from Podcasting

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Ask the Podcast Coach for July 5th, 2025.

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Let's get ready to podcast.

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There it is.

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It's that music that means it is Saturday morning.

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It is time for Ask the Podcast Coach, where you get your podcast questions answered live.

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I'm Dave Jackson from theschoolofpodcasting.com.

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And joining me right over there is the one and only Jim Collison.

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And what's interesting, Jim, as I do this...

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is I keep getting a message on my screen that says audio is muted.

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Can the audience hear me?

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Can you guys hear us?

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A great start for a holiday weekend.

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And of course we have to wait for the, you know, the delay, which we'll talk about here in a second.

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Good morning.

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Okay, good.

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Jim.

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How's it going, buddy?

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Greetings, Dave.

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Happy Saturday morning to you.

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Happy post-4th of July.

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Let me see them.

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Do you have all 10?

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We're all ten fingers.

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Okay, good.

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All right.

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The toes are good, too.

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I can't see those.

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Don't show

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them, too.

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Let's watch Dave fall out of his chair trying to lift his feet up.

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It was like a war zone out there last night.

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I know that's not great for everybody, but welcome to the day after Fourth of July here in the United States anyways.

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Yeah, especially the dogs.

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The dogs, the cats,

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the pets.

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Tough on a lot of people.

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Not a

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fan.

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And that's one thing I remember.

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I had a little Shih Tzu man and he was not a fan of the Fourth of July at all and would just jump in my lap and shake.

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So great fun.

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But I don't know about you.

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I did not sleep well because I had lots of neighbors that were launching commercial grade fireworks.

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Insane.

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I just like how much money is being displayed in the air.

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No.

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It was

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crazy.

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So there is one way, of course, to get you back up and going, and that is the one and only coffee pour.

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Does he ask about like...

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How big was that door, and couldn't Jack just really just fit on there?

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Rose,

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could you scoot over for just a little?

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Just squidge.

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Could we spoon?

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Could we just spoon on this thing and keep each other warm?

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But no, couldn't get on it.

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Yeah, Randy has also been playing with this.

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He says, hey, Dave, do you want to do a live call using Call Me during the show to demonstrate how it sounds?

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And now if you'll notice above, we always have this on our screen, askthepodcastcoach.com slash question.

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And if you go to that, it used to jump to a Zoom meeting.

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Well, now when you go there, you have a screen that says, would you like to join via Zoom or would you like to join via your phone?

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But if you're going to join, you can also click a link there and it will open this call me service in a new tab.

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And if you've ever listened to a podcast, you know, call and show on the radio, and they spend half the show going, please turn off your radio, please, if you could just, please, okay, never mind, next caller.

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Well, if you are watching us, obviously, some of us, let's see, can I see, 16 of you are watching us live right now, and if you click that button and join via your browser, you still have us from 30 seconds ago streaming, quote, live.

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Well, when you join the call...

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You're now in the future with us where we're actually doing this.

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So what happens is I'll go, hey, thanks for coming to Ask the Podcast, Coach.

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What's your question?

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You're on with Dave and Jim.

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And there's dead silence.

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And then in the background, you hear through the person's microphone, hey, welcome to the show.

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And he goes, hey, Dave and Jim.

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So you have, if you're going to use the browser, there's also a QR code, which is the easiest thing to do.

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Just point your phone at it.

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And then...

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Get on your phone and, of course, mute the show in the background because otherwise there's this massive echo.

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And so, yeah, it's there.

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It's ready to go.

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And what happens, in case you're wondering, on my side?

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Now, to do this, you have to have either a Rodecaster Duo or a Rodecaster Pro.

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I get a little screen that says so-and-so because they have to put in their name is waiting.

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And, like, right now I have Randy Black.

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So right now I hit a green checkmark and I'm saying...

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that Randy can be in number one.

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Now, Randy can hear us now, but I have him muted because I can now, what's kind of fun about this, is I can go into preview mode in Ecamm, switch to the thing.

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I tried this last night and it worked, and I could come in here.

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You know what?

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Now that I'm running this live, though, Ecamm launches so many screens behind the scene, and I'm trying to get to the part where I can say, hey, Randy's on the call.

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And now what I've done is I've finished this in the preview mode.

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I say, hey, publish that.

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Go back to the live mode.

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And in theory, we should have this thing now that says on the phone with Randy, to which I can now unmute Randy and go, Randy, you're on with Dave and Jim.

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How's it going, buddy?

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Morning, fellas.

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How are you?

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Holy cow.

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Do you see how great that sounds?

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I

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put in your code directly on the RODECaster, so I'm not going through the web.

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Oh, okay.

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That's interesting.

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It is amazing.

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It sounds great.

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It is, I mean, the technology's been out for a while.

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Vortex Communications are the ones that came up with it.

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And it is just, you know, it's using an AUG codec or something.

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I don't know what brand it, what it is.

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But it just, it sounds great.

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And if you're calling directly Rodecaster to Rodecaster, you're recording it with everybody on separate channels, and it sounds great, and it's awesome.

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Yeah, if I wanted to, I don't know if I am or not, But you can apply the road processing to this channel if you wanted to.

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Yes.

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It's pretty cool.

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The big thing, Randy, have you run into the delay issue where people are listening on the web and then you ask them a question and they wait for

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me?

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No, I've just used it doing calls just to test things.

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I forgot his name.

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Mark of the Walnut Grove cast.

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It's a great podcast about Walnut Grove, i.e.

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Little House on the Prairie.

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He and I did a call a couple of times where he went through the website and everything to just link directly in and we weren't doing anything live or streaming or anything.

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I've had my son call me a couple of times.

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So it's pretty cool.

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I'm happy with it.

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And when I looked at the pricing, isn't that bad?

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Yeah, you get five hours for free.

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Yeah, five hours for free to do the web thing as a trial.

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Right.

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It's just a trial.

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Once you hit that five hours doing the web, if you're not paying, you're done with the web.

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But you get 10 hours a month, Rodecaster to Rodecaster for free.

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Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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So if you are doing something with somebody else...

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And you have a Rodecaster.

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And they go, what kind of equipment should I buy?

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You're going to buy the Rodecaster.

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And then you'll sound like Randy, which is cool.

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But, you know, even if you want to pay the subscription, which gets you unlimited Rodecaster to Rodecaster and unlimited web, it's$9.99 a month or$99.99 for the year.

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Yeah, that's pretty affordable.

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Yeah.

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Ralph says, I feel like I'm experiencing history this morning on the show.

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I bet this is how Bell felt when he invented the telephone.

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Yes, it's nice.

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Mr.

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Randy, can you come in here, please?

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Yeah, exactly.

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But when we answered, we didn't say ahoy like Bell did.

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Ahoy.

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Boy, let's bring that back, shall we?

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We should work on that.

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Somebody calls on the phone.

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Ahoy.

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And then I found the only thing I did was I got online and I connected via the web.

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And then I connected via my phone online.

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And the Rodecaster didn't know what to do because I only had one channel open for Call Me.

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And I guess you could set up multiple ones.

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You can have two.

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Yeah.

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If you pay for the Pro, which is the big expensive one that's going to be$50 a month or$500 a year, you get three.

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That would be interesting.

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I guess if you were really doing something.

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And, of course, everybody's going to go, well, Randy, there's no video.

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What are you going to do?

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Okay, easy.

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Who cares about video?

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Yeah.

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But yeah, I've never heard this before, where Rodecaster to Rodecaster, because this just sounds like Brandy's in the same room with me.

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So

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that's pretty cool.

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When I got invited in to apply for the beta and test it, the closed beta, and I used it that first time, I was like, holy crap, this is awesome.

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I was very happy with it.

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Yeah, pretty cool.

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And how is your new show going?

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First episode came out on Tuesday.

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I couldn't tell you the download numbers.

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I haven't looked at them.

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We sat down Thursday evening, recorded episode two.

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Jim, my co-host, didn't run away.

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He still wants to do it.

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So we got about 30 minutes into episode two as we were recording, working through our outline of things.

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And I had to pause the recording and go, Jim...

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you've come up with a lot of really good stuff.

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We have to split this into two episodes.

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So he's on board with it.

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He's gung-ho on everything.

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And in the second episode, he really talks a little bit about why it is that He chose the topic we're starting with, and it's about his journey with cancer and everything and trying to get his thoughts and his messages and what he teaches to kids when he's coaching basketball and stuff out there.

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It was really good.

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I love sitting down with him.

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It's probably the most fun I've ever had podcasting.

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Well, there

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you go.

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Hey, Jeff has a question.

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He says, so it has to use a roadcaster, so it wouldn't work to do a show while traveling if you didn't want to bring all the equipment.

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That would be correct.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a roadcaster thing at this point.

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I don't know.

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Because when I first Googled Road Call Me, what's the name of the company that they're using this through, Randy?

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The

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company that created the product is called Vortex Communications.

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It's a British company.

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Yeah.

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And they have all kinds of actual hardware devices.

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And they took what they did with those hardware devices and actually wrote their own custom firmware for the RODECaster.

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So they were selling a RODECaster with this custom firmware.

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They would buy it and then resell it.

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And RODE caught on to it and said, hey, maybe we need to work with them.

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And now they're working to integrate it.

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And like I said, it's slick and everybody can hear it.

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It sounds great.

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Yeah, amazing.

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Cool.

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And what's your website, sir, for your new show?

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Shooting it straight podcast.com.

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Excellent.

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All right, my friend.

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Well, thank you so much.

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And then if I want, like for say, you know, Randy started screaming, Baba buoy, you just click the channel button on your roadcaster and I can see, call me and I can see Randy black.

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His call is connected.

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I can also adjust his level, which I didn't know.

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I can, I know I can adjust his level, but it shows that.

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And then I have a disconnect button.

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So when I click on disconnect, That is the end of it.

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I can rate the call.

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How was my call with Randy Black?

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It was great.

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And I click on Done, and that is it.

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So the inaugural, that was amazing.

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That was amazing.

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Now all I need to do is everybody just use my affiliate link to buy a Rodecaster, and there you go.

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How would they do that?

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What's that link again?

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If you just go to askthepodcastcoach.com slash question, you'll see there's a link right there.

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to join via Zoom.

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So if you want to jump into the Zoom meeting.

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Or that too, but what's the affiliate link?

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Oh, to buy a Rodecaster?

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How would I do that?

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Supportthisshow.com slash Rodecaster?

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Let's see if that is correct.

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Supportthisshow.com slash Rodecaster.

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Did I get that smart?

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It should be that smart.

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Survey says no.

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Well, let me find out what it is.

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It's probably something of that, probably road duo or something that I see.

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Roadcaster.

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It is supportthisshow.com, roadcast, roadcaster

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duo.

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This is way too hard.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Let's, by the end of the show, let's have it much easier for people to be able to do that then.

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Yeah.

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Supportthisshow.com slash roadcaster duo.

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Road caster duo.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So, or it's spelled how

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D U O.

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So, or try dash and spell dash hyphen underscore this K X 27 X hike.

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Yeah.

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I'm with you.

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And I was confused is where we were going.

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So it's okay.

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That's right.

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It's all okay.

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We got it.

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And if it's even more fun, you have to put the road caster into beta mode because which is weird.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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You, yeah.

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She's Randy says you need a link for the road caster pro too.

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Yeah.

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So yeah.

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So it's fun, but technology, you know, we'll see how

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it sounded really good.

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Sounded really good.

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Like the audio on that is dynamite.

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So now if someone was coming on in on their iPhone or on an Android phone, Same audio quality?

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What I'm hoping, this is what I think is going to happen and what I don't want to happen is people will go to askthepodcastcoach.com slash question.

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They'll say, I want to join via the phone.

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Or if they want, they could even scan the QR code.

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That's the easiest thing if you're on your phone.

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And then they're going to put it on speaker and put it about 10 feet from them.

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And I'm like, no, you want to talk into it like it's a phone.

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Remember this?

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There's a little microphone down here at the bottom of this thing.

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You

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could still hold it like this and get it close.

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I don't know why you hold that in front of you like this.

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I don't

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know.

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I'm pointing it in the direction.

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I think they're calling from the east.

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I don't know what the deal is for that.

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It's a phone.

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Hold it up to your, you know, there's a thing up here where you have to listen and, you know, you don't have to put it on speaker so we can all listen to your phone call while I'm waiting for the grocery line to move or whatever, things like that.

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So keep that in mind.

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Randy says if they put it on speakerphone, they can turn on the echo cancellation.

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Yeah, there is a little echo cancellation button there, which is handy as well.

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I thought what we could start off once I made sure that Jim had plenty of coffee.

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The way John's got a question.

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I missed the beginning and I need to go back and see how Dave took a phone call.

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It's a feature, new feature in the Rodecaster beta called Call Me.

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Oh, and Ralph is calling in as we speak.

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So I'm going to mute Ralph.

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Or at least mute this channel.

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And I will add Ralph.

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And he is muted.

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And so now, again, this is the part I'm probably going to change.

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This whole thing where I go into preview mode.

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Because either that or I'm going to have to go...

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You're on with Dave and Jim or something.

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And then Jim will have to take over.

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So I can come back here and change the...

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Yeah, this part's got to go.

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It's cool.

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And if I had a producer...

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to do this, then I could, but I could, behind the scenes, I'm now saying, hey, we're on the phone with Ralph, and I publish it, and I go back to the live mode, and then I think we're on the screen, and then I can say, hey, Ralph, you're on with Dave and Jim.

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How's it going?

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Hello, friends.

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How are you?

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Good, but do you have it on speaker?

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Because I'm hearing me.

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I do not, actually.

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I'm just coming through my iPhone, and I don't have anything else connected.

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Just right through my iPhone.

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Interesting.

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Yeah,

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because can you hear the echo,

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Jim?

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Yeah, I hear a little bit of an echo, just super quiet.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm just calling you right from my iPhone, so I thought I'd give you a test on that.

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And do you have it held up to your mouth?

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Are you doing the on-speak?

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I am about three centimeters from my mouth.

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Oh, all right.

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So not quite as good as Randy.

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And we got a little echo, which is fun.

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Hey, can you click on the echo cancellation button there on the phone?

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Hold on one second.

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Let me do that.

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We'll see if that takes care of it.

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Switch on.

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Let's see.

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We'll be billing road later

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for it.

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Oh, don't

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let you do it before you join.

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Yeah, it looks like you can.

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It won't even let me switch it.

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It's a little thing in there, but it won't let me do it.

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Hold on.

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I think it did it.

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No, maybe not.

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Yeah,

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I'm trying, but that's all right.

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That's all right.

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Sorry, the gods of the iPhone are letting me do it this morning.

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All right.

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And what website are we promoting today, Ralph?

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Today we're promoting Grit and Growth Business.

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There you go,.com.

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So if you're looking for a way to grow your business, you feel like you're getting ready to burn out, go check it out, and I'll help you get back to some sanity in your business life.

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There you go.

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Yeah, Randy Black is saying you have to turn on the echo before you connect.

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So there you go.

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Thanks, gentlemen.

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All right, man.

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We'll see you.

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Take care.

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Bye-bye.

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See you, Ralph.

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See you, Ralph.

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Yeah, so that's another kind of echo.

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Like I said earlier, when I did this on a pod page meetup, and it was people waiting to hear me ask something on YouTube, and that was fun.

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But no, I had this question come in, and I thought, well, hey, you know, I know somebody that does podcasting for their business, in your case, obviously, with Gallup.

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And it says, hey, let me...

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Wow.

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So many.

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I know I say this every week.

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I really need to lose my PC so I can use both monitors.

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You need a few more monitors

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is what you need.

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You need a few more monitors there.

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Because how many do you have?

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11.

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Yeah.

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That sounds like a sickness.

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And I need more.

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All right.

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So this person says, hey, everyone, I'm looking for practical tips and ideas for a podcast that I'd like to start.

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I run an AI consulting practice and want to kickstart some kind of AI podcast, albeit I fear this could be massively boring.

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There's your typical new podcaster.

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So looking for creative, practical ideas to keep it interesting.

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I'm thinking keeping episodes short and relevant.

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That's good because the longer you go, how long can you hold their attention?

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Not true.

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Yeah, okay, all right.

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Varying formats a bit, video interviews for different platforms, trying to leave people with something they can possibly use each episode.

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Any other ideas?

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I feel like podcasts are rarely viewed and I'm not expecting a massive following, but I want to at least figure out how to convert the time.

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invested into something that pays off.

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And so I know you do, how many shows do you do for Gallup?

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Three now.

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Yeah.

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Three.

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So how, how do you guys keep it?

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Like, what do you guys do?

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How do you figure out in terms of choosing content and things like that?

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Cause I

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go ahead and keep going.

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Oh, I gave him the answer of take the questions that you get all the time.

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If you're running for your consulting business, what are people always hiring you for?

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Cause you know, that content will resonate with the audience because people ask it already.

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So you're not wondering, well, I wonder if people want to know about this.

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So that was my one tip.

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But how do you guys come up with ideas for the show for Gallup?

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Well, people are infinitely interesting, I think.

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You can interview, I think, in most cases.

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You could interview people endlessly.

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They all have different points of view.

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They all have different stories.

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They all have different successes.

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And so, you know, I just, I, you don't, I don't feel like we're running out of content.

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The, in the, you know, in my space, in the CliftonStrengths space, there's always new things going on.

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We just, you know, we had some, we just made some changes, have some new software.

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We've got, you know, AI has kind of changed the game on some things.

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And so there's those things to talk about.

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I'm very similar here where we, you know, how do you keep talking about podcasting?

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Well, there's changes that happen every single week.

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So make sure you're having conversations about those.

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So I don't think.

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I think if you're interesting and you're interested in other people and you ask really good questions, I think that you can it'd be tough to find the end of the internet on this one.

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I just, I don't see it coming.

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I don't see those topics coming to an end anytime soon.

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I mean, listen, you and I've had that conversation about this show.

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Like how much, you know, we, well, we stopped talking about microphone recommendations.

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We stopped talking about hosting platforms.

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I think we actually talked about more meaningful things now than we did back when we were trying to do microphones and hosting platforms.

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Right.

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It's a, and money.

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How do I

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make money with

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it?

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Yeah.

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How do I make money?

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Right.

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Yeah.

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I talk about it.

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Talking about the ethics in it or talking about the motivations in it or talking about the personal, you know, kind of the what it takes to do these longer than a month or two.

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I mean, it takes some grit to get through all this stuff.

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So I don't think and I don't think you have to keep it short.

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Like, I think this is one of the biggest things.

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misconceptions or the biggest myths that we have out there is, oh, people won't listen to it if it's long.

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And I just, I don't agree.

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If you've got that much content, go for it.

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Now, don't stretch it out and don't be, you know, don't have a, don't have a podcast about A and then get on and talk about 50 other things.

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Hey, let's just get together.

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What'd you do yesterday?

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Well, what did you do?

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And then 30 minutes later, that's the kind of stuff that gets you into trouble.

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Unless, You developed an audience that's expecting that.

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If it's that interesting that people want to listen to how your day went or how you chewed your bubble gum or what kind of coffee you made, great.

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If that's what they're there for, then do those kinds of things.

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But I don't like this.

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I'm going to do it short and it's going to get more listens.

00:23:01.527 --> 00:23:02.268
I think that's a myth.

00:23:03.229 --> 00:23:03.869
Yeah, I...

00:23:04.226 --> 00:23:08.330
Well, I always say if that's the case, why does the word binge exist?

00:23:08.810 --> 00:23:09.311
Not for sure.

00:23:09.632 --> 00:23:18.000
You know, if that's real, if we have short attention spans and blah, blah, blah, the only thing I'd want to do, it comes down to the why.

00:23:18.121 --> 00:23:25.209
If you want to be seen as an expert, do a longer show and do deeper dives to kind of go look at what I know.

00:23:25.249 --> 00:23:31.276
But if the goal is to keep your brand in front of people, then do quick little tips and keep them short.

00:23:31.435 --> 00:23:34.593
You know, so it kind of depends, you know, Why are you doing this?

00:23:34.933 --> 00:23:37.622
Well, some content is better or shorter.

00:23:37.642 --> 00:23:40.992
There's just some things you don't want to stretch out.

00:23:41.314 --> 00:23:47.732
If you're going to be in the product review space, I think that's a really important space that you have fairly quick...

00:23:48.130 --> 00:23:55.740
reviews right now, you know, because most people, that's what they're looking for, you know, when they're searching for stuff.

00:23:56.361 --> 00:24:06.275
If they get there and they're like, oh, it's an hour-long review, okay, the intent of them is not, they didn't land there to listen to your hour-long podcast.

00:24:06.295 --> 00:24:10.701
They have a problem, they want it solved quickly, right, in that regard.

00:24:11.662 --> 00:24:14.346
So, yeah, I'll leave it at that.

00:24:14.786 --> 00:24:15.207
Well, there you go.

00:24:16.028 --> 00:24:22.618
John Jumango says, my Podcasting deep dive right now is how to use AI to assist me in the whole podcasting process.

00:24:23.019 --> 00:24:25.382
I'm a big fan of Magi, M-A-G-A-I.

00:24:25.422 --> 00:24:32.210
It's a tool that you pay 20 bucks a month and you get chat GPT and Claude and this and that and blah, blah, blah.

00:24:32.750 --> 00:24:38.096
Chris from castahead.net says people will stick around for content that isn't boring.

00:24:38.596 --> 00:24:39.917
Yes, that's the key.

00:24:40.038 --> 00:24:41.839
You know, it doesn't really matter on the link.

00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:51.654
Yeah, because if I saw a, it was a YouTube video and it was something like can you do blankety blank with such and such, right?

00:24:51.714 --> 00:24:53.057
That was the title of it.

00:24:53.939 --> 00:24:57.765
And he went in and gave us the history of the blankety blank.

00:24:57.845 --> 00:25:00.307
We're like, yeah, but can it do that?

00:25:00.409 --> 00:25:07.159
And you could see that it was like a seven minute video and about six minutes through, he answered the question.

00:25:07.179 --> 00:25:13.669
And so we're all just, that's, we clicked, you know, play because I want to know the answer to that question.

00:25:13.689 --> 00:25:19.317
And for the first five minutes, he's giving the history and, How it works, and we're like, we don't care.

00:25:19.336 --> 00:25:20.638
It's a yes or no question.

00:25:20.679 --> 00:25:22.261
Show us how it works.

00:25:22.321 --> 00:25:23.483
So tell them, Glenn.

00:25:23.723 --> 00:25:24.486
Don't be boring.

00:25:24.526 --> 00:25:25.667
Yeah, don't be boring.

00:25:26.308 --> 00:25:32.278
Also, you have completely, you have smashed the competition, Jim Cullison, with 11 monitors.

00:25:32.739 --> 00:25:34.843
I think I saw, I think Randy has four.

00:25:35.503 --> 00:25:36.325
You know, it's crazy.

00:25:36.384 --> 00:25:39.170
Well, so people always ask me, why 11?

00:25:39.394 --> 00:25:39.974
Like why?

00:25:40.095 --> 00:25:40.736
And I, listen, I put it.

00:25:40.796 --> 00:25:42.179
Because you wanted to go to 11.

00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:47.547
I've tried to put a 12th one in here and there just isn't the space at this point.

00:25:47.567 --> 00:25:47.748
Okay.

00:25:48.388 --> 00:25:58.705
So, like in my work style and when I'm podcasting, if I'm using a screen, I want it visible all the time.

00:25:58.905 --> 00:26:03.614
I don't want, even at work when I'm not podcasting and I'm just doing my regular chores.

00:26:04.034 --> 00:26:07.676
I like everything I'm working on to just be visible.

00:26:07.777 --> 00:26:09.077
I don't want to have to click a tab.

00:26:09.157 --> 00:26:10.839
I don't want to have to go to another window.

00:26:10.859 --> 00:26:11.861
I don't want to flip something up.

00:26:12.421 --> 00:26:14.202
I don't want to switch virtual screens.

00:26:14.222 --> 00:26:15.183
I don't want to do any of that.

00:26:15.203 --> 00:26:15.963
I want it all visible.

00:26:16.023 --> 00:26:16.585
That's just me.

00:26:17.164 --> 00:26:19.047
It's part of who I am and the way I'm built.

00:26:19.126 --> 00:26:20.248
Not everybody's built that way.

00:26:20.327 --> 00:26:21.509
Some folks are okay with that.

00:26:21.588 --> 00:26:28.575
But so for me, having multiple spaces to go to and having it, you know, I'm 57.

00:26:29.036 --> 00:26:30.277
My eyes aren't the best.

00:26:31.037 --> 00:26:32.818
So I make sure that I have it in.

00:26:32.838 --> 00:26:35.722
It's like a large print Bible everywhere down here.

00:26:35.742 --> 00:26:45.478
I like to make sure I can see things from a distance because, you know, when you're in the heat of battle and you're doing some podcasting or what, the last thing you want to do is be like, what did that say?

00:26:45.518 --> 00:26:47.520
You know, you have to kind of lean into it.

00:26:47.560 --> 00:26:48.643
That's not me.

00:26:48.942 --> 00:26:49.884
I don't want to do that.

00:26:49.904 --> 00:26:57.676
I want, you know, and I think I have a little bit of air traffic controller built into me where I want, you know, I kind of want the everything.

00:26:57.696 --> 00:26:59.103
I can just look Boom.

00:26:59.702 --> 00:26:59.963
Bam.

00:27:00.003 --> 00:27:00.625
I got that there.

00:27:00.644 --> 00:27:00.884
Okay.

00:27:00.904 --> 00:27:01.385
We're moving this.

00:27:01.665 --> 00:27:01.746
Yeah.

00:27:01.766 --> 00:27:02.166
That kind of thing.

00:27:03.008 --> 00:27:04.789
So for me, that supports my habit.

00:27:04.809 --> 00:27:07.334
Now those 11 run off four different computers.

00:27:07.554 --> 00:27:09.056
It's not all off one computer.

00:27:09.096 --> 00:27:11.058
That would be, it'd be amazing.

00:27:12.500 --> 00:27:13.501
How many do you have at work?

00:27:14.804 --> 00:27:15.064
Four.

00:27:15.084 --> 00:27:15.805
I have four at work.

00:27:15.865 --> 00:27:16.266
Now when you go

00:27:16.306 --> 00:27:19.029
to work, do you just feel like, oh, this is so primitive?

00:27:19.746 --> 00:27:26.858
No, even because even, you know, here, part of the 11 is a work setup that sits right here.

00:27:26.898 --> 00:27:28.201
That's four monitors here.

00:27:28.942 --> 00:27:30.325
So, and I don't use those.

00:27:30.644 --> 00:27:34.692
Like when I'm down here podcasting, I don't have this setup rolling, right?

00:27:34.751 --> 00:27:39.961
It's when I'm at work though, when I'm working from home, I'll have these four going and I'll have these.

00:27:40.897 --> 00:27:45.215
you know, whatever, equals 11 on that working over here, all seven of them.

00:27:45.798 --> 00:27:49.855
So, because I'm kind of going back and forth between things and I want them all on.

00:27:50.135 --> 00:27:51.982
So, Yeah, that's me.

00:27:52.282 --> 00:27:53.584
I don't recommend that for everybody.

00:27:53.625 --> 00:27:56.267
That's a lot of space for folks.

00:27:56.987 --> 00:28:04.554
But I kind of, one of the things when I'm at work, I have, you know, the camera shoots this way across from me, you know, going the other direction.

00:28:05.474 --> 00:28:12.101
And I've got some monitors that have fancy like matrix-like things happening on them.

00:28:12.621 --> 00:28:16.064
It looks like it's cooler than it actually is, right, kind of thing.

00:28:16.584 --> 00:28:21.489
And I like folks to see, you know, my home assistant dashboard is up and so they can see all those kinds of things.

00:28:22.269 --> 00:28:23.009
A little bit of it.

00:28:23.029 --> 00:28:25.813
It's just to have a cool backdrop for when I'm at work.

00:28:26.393 --> 00:28:28.994
The irony is I don't really work from home anymore.

00:28:29.036 --> 00:28:32.038
I used to be home a couple of days a week and now I'm going in five days.

00:28:32.198 --> 00:28:36.082
So I don't work as much in the workspace here and that's fine.

00:28:36.682 --> 00:28:39.765
Studio at the Gallup, the studio has five.

00:28:40.506 --> 00:28:41.386
My desk has four.

00:28:41.866 --> 00:28:43.449
So it's just, I just like it that way.

00:28:43.729 --> 00:28:44.650
Just works out better for me.

00:28:45.309 --> 00:28:45.609
Yeah.

00:28:45.711 --> 00:28:49.294
The Chris wants to know, have you ever lost track of your mouse?

00:28:49.453 --> 00:28:49.534
Yeah.

00:28:49.890 --> 00:28:58.106
Well, no, because, well, yeah, every once in a while you're like words that I use a app like, so the Mac is the center of all things here.

00:28:58.166 --> 00:29:03.638
And then I use Synergy to tie together, right, Windows and Mac computers together.

00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:05.020
No, not generally.

00:29:05.061 --> 00:29:08.828
You know, you can, you pick that up and it lands on the screen that's in front of you.

00:29:09.377 --> 00:29:10.398
And you go from there.

00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.963
I haven't had that trouble where the mouse is somewhere I can't find it.

00:29:14.765 --> 00:29:21.213
Even running, if I go to the left, that's a Windows machine that goes, the monitor is one down, one up.

00:29:21.855 --> 00:29:26.101
If I go to the right, that's another Windows machine where there's one down, two up.

00:29:26.540 --> 00:29:27.623
So that's an interesting mouse.

00:29:27.663 --> 00:29:31.488
I got to go over to the Windows and then go up and over to catch that other monitor.

00:29:31.508 --> 00:29:35.753
I have a solo laptop that sits right up here just for anything I want to run.

00:29:36.258 --> 00:29:39.261
If I need to run something separate, I can run a laptop.

00:29:39.321 --> 00:29:41.664
It's on a holder and faces down like that.

00:29:42.665 --> 00:29:46.191
Jeff says, we thought AI was pulling all the power.

00:29:46.211 --> 00:29:47.992
It's actually Jim's house in Nebraska.

00:29:48.574 --> 00:29:51.396
Yeah, listen, I do all of it for 700 watts.

00:29:51.557 --> 00:29:52.459
So let's just be clear.

00:29:52.558 --> 00:29:55.122
Well, I was going to say, because Ralph was saying, all right, challenge accepted.

00:29:55.162 --> 00:29:58.006
I'm going to go buy the 12th monitor now.

00:29:58.026 --> 00:29:58.266
Listen.

00:29:58.690 --> 00:29:58.930
And a

00:29:59.009 --> 00:30:00.132
chiller to keep it cool.

00:30:00.692 --> 00:30:00.932
Yeah.

00:30:01.574 --> 00:30:03.596
Samsung in the winter, it's beautiful down here.

00:30:04.698 --> 00:30:11.046
Samsung makes some, I think they're called arc monitors, and they're 5,000 feet wide, whatever they are.

00:30:11.606 --> 00:30:16.933
You can tilt those things up, and then my dream would have three of those tilted up.

00:30:16.973 --> 00:30:19.678
You can get three 1080p monitors.

00:30:19.809 --> 00:30:32.806
screen sizes in each one of those tilted up that means i'd have nine in a cube and you don't have to look up for the you know you'd have to go like it'd be almost arcing over your head kind of that would be great

00:30:33.666 --> 00:30:34.028
jim is

00:30:34.087 --> 00:30:35.410
basically the best day

00:30:35.789 --> 00:30:38.854
he's rebuilt the sphere from las vegas

00:30:39.153 --> 00:30:45.182
yes in his basement yeah now that would be great it's just to have a half dome sphere kind of a

00:30:45.346 --> 00:30:48.152
Yeah, Chris is saying, we need a behind-the-scenes gym cam.

00:30:48.192 --> 00:30:48.993
Yeah, exactly.

00:30:49.034 --> 00:30:58.273
It is funny, though, because as you're describing this, we are creating that brain gap where people are like, wait, we're trying to manually picture...

00:30:58.786 --> 00:31:00.147
you know, how you got it.

00:31:00.628 --> 00:31:02.152
It's exactly like you think it is.

00:31:02.593 --> 00:31:05.538
The, it's not very, listen, I bought the monitors at different times, right?

00:31:05.577 --> 00:31:07.961
These are just monitors last forever now.

00:31:08.162 --> 00:31:08.722
So they do.

00:31:08.962 --> 00:31:12.048
I literally run them until like, I can't see them anymore.

00:31:12.930 --> 00:31:16.355
And, and so you would think they'd be organized in a grid.

00:31:16.516 --> 00:31:17.317
No, not really.

00:31:17.417 --> 00:31:23.709
I mean, I kind of have the, I have my eye layout across, you know, so I don't have to turn my head for the important things.

00:31:23.769 --> 00:31:26.415
I want to just, I don't want to look up for the important stuff.

00:31:26.516 --> 00:31:28.638
And then above that is stuff I'm monitoring.

00:31:28.778 --> 00:31:37.970
So if I've got the weather going or I've got my webcam or I've got my ring cams for security on one, I'm monitoring some crypto on another.

00:31:37.990 --> 00:31:39.872
I might have a new source on a third.

00:31:40.613 --> 00:31:46.239
So it's not like in during the day when I'm working, it's not like they're all I'm working off of all of them.

00:31:46.278 --> 00:31:48.201
I probably are working at three at a time.

00:31:48.930 --> 00:31:56.358
But the other ones have stuff that I'm monitoring that I just kind of want to keep, you know, during the day when you're down here, if the doorbell rings, I want to look and see who's at the door.

00:31:56.660 --> 00:32:00.505
So I keep those things up all the time so I can look at it.

00:32:01.025 --> 00:32:02.307
For me, it makes me feel cool.

00:32:02.346 --> 00:32:06.251
And I don't care if it is cool or if it actually works cool.

00:32:06.792 --> 00:32:08.134
It just makes me feel cool.

00:32:08.394 --> 00:32:09.296
And that's worth it, right?

00:32:09.316 --> 00:32:12.119
You don't get too many things in life that are for you.

00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:13.060
This is for me.

00:32:13.361 --> 00:32:13.701
I like it.

00:32:14.145 --> 00:32:14.486
Yeah.

00:32:14.646 --> 00:32:21.035
John says the hard part of multiple monitors and podcasting is having the podcaster turn away from the mic as the editor.

00:32:21.615 --> 00:32:21.695
Yeah.

00:32:21.715 --> 00:32:22.636
They're like, oh, great.

00:32:22.737 --> 00:32:24.358
And then their notes are over here.

00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:28.444
You know, can you look at monitor one, please?

00:32:28.965 --> 00:32:30.627
You don't get stuff too far away.

00:32:30.667 --> 00:32:35.493
I'm trying to keep it all, you know, I could put the 12th like over to my left.

00:32:35.594 --> 00:32:36.935
There's a spot here.

00:32:37.036 --> 00:32:38.198
I could get a 12th.

00:32:38.657 --> 00:32:39.638
Fill me with a

00:32:39.659 --> 00:32:40.099
monitor.

00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:41.161
Yeah, really.

00:32:41.461 --> 00:32:42.323
And I might do that today.

00:32:42.643 --> 00:32:43.364
No, I'm just kidding.

00:32:44.144 --> 00:32:44.224
Yeah.

00:32:44.244 --> 00:32:46.989
Rich says there's a 27 inch monitor on Kickstarter.

00:32:47.028 --> 00:32:50.252
That's as thin as an iPhone with a touchscreen.

00:32:51.233 --> 00:32:51.634
There you go.

00:32:51.994 --> 00:33:00.244
I was at Best Buy this week and they had, I believe it was 98 inch flat screen TV monitor thingy.

00:33:00.365 --> 00:33:03.328
And I just, I was like, I don't have a wall that big in my house.

00:33:04.009 --> 00:33:04.770
It was giant.

00:33:04.851 --> 00:33:06.773
And it wasn't, I forget what the price was.

00:33:07.521 --> 00:33:14.503
But, you know, you can get a big monitor, you know, for, I don't know, three, 400 bucks.

00:33:14.765 --> 00:33:16.609
And those used to be like two grand.

00:33:16.651 --> 00:33:18.917
And I'm like, holy cow, it's crazy.

00:33:19.458 --> 00:33:22.826
The Samsung Arch is a 55-inch.

00:33:22.865 --> 00:33:25.613
Here, I'll throw a link to it in the chat room.

00:33:25.853 --> 00:33:26.855
Sorry, guys.

00:33:27.016 --> 00:33:29.301
This probably has an affiliate link buried in it.

00:33:29.382 --> 00:33:31.606
So if you click on it, just know you're doing that.

00:33:31.708 --> 00:33:33.491
But yeah, 55-inch.

00:33:33.531 --> 00:33:34.996
They're$1,700.

00:33:35.416 --> 00:33:36.900
So you're talking about...

00:33:38.369 --> 00:33:39.351
you know,$6,000.

00:33:39.371 --> 00:33:45.460
If you're going to do three of them, it's a$6,000, a little less than that five, something five and some change.

00:33:45.701 --> 00:33:47.083
If 5,000 is worth it to you.

00:33:47.482 --> 00:33:50.007
I thought about it for a while and I'm like, I don't need that.

00:33:50.067 --> 00:33:52.611
I'm fine with the setups that I have.

00:33:53.172 --> 00:33:53.412
Yeah.

00:33:54.153 --> 00:33:54.614
There you go.

00:33:55.115 --> 00:34:05.931
Well, here's a, a lighthearted question that I was just like, and I replied to this person and said, you know, I don't want to like shame you, but just realize you could have done it better.

00:34:06.050 --> 00:34:11.853
So Jim, if somebody comes up to you, and says, hey, I'm looking to become a podcast co-host.

00:34:12.434 --> 00:34:13.596
I'm not sure where to start.

00:34:13.635 --> 00:34:23.648
I'm a 31-year-old female looking to get into podcasting as a co-host, but don't know where to begin, or if anyone is looking for a co-host, I'd love to have a chat.

00:34:24.789 --> 00:34:31.137
And for me, when I saw this, I was like, okay, well, you're in the right place, but what's missing from that message?

00:34:31.746 --> 00:34:32.507
What would you say?

00:34:32.666 --> 00:34:33.708
What you're going to talk about?

00:34:33.748 --> 00:34:34.128
Yeah.

00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:35.271
What do you want to talk about?

00:34:35.291 --> 00:34:37.614
I was like, okay.

00:34:37.795 --> 00:34:45.826
If you had said I've been, you know, I would love to talk sports or whatever, or, you know, women's health, men's health, whatever it is.

00:34:45.887 --> 00:34:49.150
I was just like, but just say, hey, I'd like to be a co-host.

00:34:49.251 --> 00:34:51.574
I'm like, you could have done that one a little better.

00:34:51.594 --> 00:34:59.326
The other thing is I forgot how people do this because at PodPage, we're not really closed like ever before.

00:34:59.809 --> 00:35:18.456
So I checked in yesterday thinking it would be really quiet, and the bad news is when people have free time, because, you know, it's a holiday, they start, in some cases, doing all those things that you really shouldn't kind of care about kind of stuff, like font sizes.

00:35:18.476 --> 00:35:20.039
It was interesting.

00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:26.929
Not that my customers are dumb, but it was just like, oh, we're going to really obsess over things that we don't really need to.

00:35:27.585 --> 00:35:28.708
And this would be one.

00:35:28.788 --> 00:35:32.713
Now, this isn't a pod page thing, but they said, they even said it's a dumb question.

00:35:32.773 --> 00:35:35.137
And I'm like, well, sometimes they are, but sometimes they're not.

00:35:35.237 --> 00:35:37.201
And again, we all start from different places.

00:35:37.902 --> 00:35:43.351
So when I started a podcast a little while ago, the feature for adding podcasts to YouTube started rolling out.

00:35:43.972 --> 00:35:46.195
It wasn't available for my channel right out of the gate.

00:35:46.735 --> 00:35:52.766
So I've been uploading them as videos with a generic stand-in background through the entire podcast.

00:35:53.282 --> 00:35:55.324
though the entire podcast is audio focused.

00:35:55.344 --> 00:35:57.206
So they're basically uploading a static video.

00:35:57.967 --> 00:36:13.784
And they asked, so my question is now that I'm close to 30 episodes in, should I re-upload the WAV file directly to the podcast section and remove the videos, or should I just keep going the way I'm currently going?

00:36:13.824 --> 00:36:19.170
And obviously, what the difference is, now I know I can Google some of this information.

00:36:19.210 --> 00:36:19.751
Yes, you could.

00:36:19.791 --> 00:36:25.460
But I'm not getting any solid information about if I should switch and continue to do this way or not.

00:36:25.961 --> 00:36:28.945
So they thought they would ask the lovely people in the Reddit group.

00:36:29.405 --> 00:36:45.923
And so what we're looking at then is do we want, you know, the MP3 file that you've uploaded, which you controlled to your audio host, or do you want to, you know, upload a WAV file to YouTube and let them convert it?

00:36:46.565 --> 00:36:57.731
And the other thing I just thought of was, you know, A, Static videos on YouTube are not a waste of time, but they're very close to being a waste of time.

00:36:57.791 --> 00:37:03.117
So to me, I just was like, these are the things that we worry about.

00:37:03.157 --> 00:37:05.099
Because can you imagine how much time it would take?

00:37:05.420 --> 00:37:10.286
Now, granted, it's only 30 episodes, but to delete them or make them private.

00:37:10.987 --> 00:37:14.152
So you're going to not, you know, YouTube doesn't let you replace audio.

00:37:14.172 --> 00:37:15.735
So you're going to lose all your stats for that.

00:37:16.255 --> 00:37:18.358
If you had any stats being a static video.

00:37:18.838 --> 00:37:23.188
But I just was like, yeah, these are the things that I just wouldn't obsess over that.

00:37:23.268 --> 00:37:25.152
So I was, well, that's a good example of that.

00:37:25.713 --> 00:37:27.577
We are still on the monitor train.

00:37:28.077 --> 00:37:34.487
Jason wants to know, curious about going with a wide curve monitor, but my camera's between my two monitors right now.

00:37:34.929 --> 00:37:37.534
Just not sure I want to go with a top-down kind of thing.

00:37:38.081 --> 00:37:38.382
Jason,

00:37:39.384 --> 00:37:41.949
you'd have two different options to try.

00:37:41.989 --> 00:37:44.574
One is use a Manfrotto clamp.

00:37:44.934 --> 00:37:48.581
So Manfrotto, they're common camera makers.

00:37:48.641 --> 00:37:54.452
They have all kinds of clamps and extensions that are designed to hold cameras.

00:37:55.106 --> 00:37:56.367
I have a Manfrotto clamp.

00:37:56.487 --> 00:38:02.974
Actually, I'm using it for a tablet that's holding up my tablet right now within arm's reach for me.

00:38:03.034 --> 00:38:09.661
But you could put the camera on that and put it in front of the monitor if you want or anywhere you want.

00:38:09.701 --> 00:38:10.661
You could do it that way.

00:38:10.702 --> 00:38:19.210
Or you could, they make these clear now like plexiglass holders for cameras that you can put on there.

00:38:19.251 --> 00:38:20.873
Then you can kind of center those.

00:38:21.393 --> 00:38:34.318
Now, don't try to actually, if you're gonna put your camera someplace, don't actually, this is where it gets really hard, is, I mean, if you're gonna try to look through the camera and read things, you really need a teleprompter.

00:38:34.561 --> 00:38:34.742
right?

00:38:34.842 --> 00:38:38.746
That's the way to do it right, where you're reading and it's looking through.

00:38:38.786 --> 00:38:46.072
If it's just faces that, you know, some people will put their cameras in front of the video here of faces, so they're constantly looking forward, right?

00:38:46.733 --> 00:38:49.335
But if you're trying to read through it, you should probably get a teleprompter.

00:38:49.375 --> 00:38:50.516
That's just the easiest way.

00:38:50.536 --> 00:38:52.938
Otherwise, you're going to be moving your head around, right?

00:38:52.958 --> 00:38:55.440
Because the camera is going to be in the way when you're doing it that way.

00:38:55.579 --> 00:38:58.702
So I love the dual monitor with a camera in the center.

00:38:58.742 --> 00:39:03.847
If you have good, I don't have good eye contact, like I'm looking at my camera right now, but I almost don't, I don't look at it.

00:39:03.947 --> 00:39:06.750
I squint So you can't tell where I'm looking most of the time.

00:39:06.789 --> 00:39:07.570
That's my secret.

00:39:07.610 --> 00:39:10.393
I say, just, you can't see all the time.

00:39:10.974 --> 00:39:12.755
And who cares if everybody thinks you're high?

00:39:12.795 --> 00:39:14.416
For sure.

00:39:14.456 --> 00:39:14.936
Yeah.

00:39:15.157 --> 00:39:16.398
Are they bloodshot though?

00:39:16.498 --> 00:39:21.742
Is that the, so the, so Jason, that those could be three different options.

00:39:21.844 --> 00:39:29.891
If you wanted to go with a curved monitor and get the, listen, if the two monitor system is working for you and the monitor is still working, I wouldn't buy it.

00:39:30.030 --> 00:39:32.152
I would not go widescreen just to have a widescreen.

00:39:32.713 --> 00:39:37.865
I don't think that, Like, unless you get, you got to get a big one with a low resolution.

00:39:37.925 --> 00:39:39.206
Like, I have 47 inches.

00:39:39.226 --> 00:39:40.288
That's actually not enough.

00:39:40.467 --> 00:39:45.253
You need a 55er to get two full screens in there, right?

00:39:45.373 --> 00:39:48.735
The 47s are not, or 42s, I think, maybe 43 is what I have here.

00:39:49.255 --> 00:39:50.036
They're not wide enough.

00:39:50.217 --> 00:39:51.177
I know that sounds weird.

00:39:51.257 --> 00:39:53.601
You're like, it's an ultra-wide screen, and it's 43.

00:39:53.701 --> 00:39:58.525
Yeah, it's not wide enough to get two full screens side by side.

00:39:58.764 --> 00:40:03.409
So if that setup is working for you, I don't know if I'd change it, you know?

00:40:03.429 --> 00:40:03.710
Yeah.

00:40:04.065 --> 00:40:10.818
What I would consider changing is getting two of them and then still putting the camera in the center.

00:40:10.858 --> 00:40:15.606
And then you could have four monitor spaces around you going out wide like this.

00:40:16.507 --> 00:40:17.869
That would be cool, Jason.

00:40:17.990 --> 00:40:20.715
So that's, I don't get one to replace it.

00:40:21.235 --> 00:40:21.697
Get two.

00:40:21.757 --> 00:40:22.559
There you go.

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That's what I do.

00:40:24.121 --> 00:40:24.382
Yeah.

00:40:24.610 --> 00:40:27.373
Randy says, wait, you can upload a WAV file to YouTube?

00:40:27.512 --> 00:40:30.356
I don't know that you can, but even if you could, no.

00:40:30.657 --> 00:40:32.278
Just that whole thing is just...

00:40:33.139 --> 00:40:34.041
Ralph has a question.

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He says, since I record video, I've been having an issue with my monitors reflecting into my 85-inch TV behind me.

00:40:42.371 --> 00:40:43.652
That's his video background.

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And he usually just puts an image back there.

00:40:45.675 --> 00:40:49.679
So instead of having a green screen, he actually has this ginormous TV.

00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:51.762
And he says, any ideas for monitor...

00:40:52.226 --> 00:40:54.490
filters for anti-glare ideas.

00:40:55.494 --> 00:41:02.610
Yeah, the filters, to get a filter for an 85-inch TV, I don't know if they even make them that big.

00:41:03.371 --> 00:41:05.657
Basically, the glare is because it's straight on.

00:41:05.922 --> 00:41:06.121
right?

00:41:06.563 --> 00:41:08.724
You could try tilting that TV.

00:41:09.324 --> 00:41:11.367
We won't see it from the monitor.

00:41:11.407 --> 00:41:14.989
We won't, it won't look to, I mean, you can't tilt it 45 degrees.

00:41:15.550 --> 00:41:19.253
But if, start tilting it a little bit to see if you can get that glare out of there.

00:41:19.713 --> 00:41:25.458
Oftentimes, I used to run monitors up to the upper left here for me, up here where I'm pointing, if you have the video.

00:41:26.300 --> 00:41:27.681
You can see I have a laptop up there.

00:41:27.721 --> 00:41:28.360
It's turned off.

00:41:29.001 --> 00:41:32.045
But I used to have a monitor up there that would do the fireplace.

00:41:32.105 --> 00:41:34.567
Remember, during the winter, I'd have the fireplace going up there?

00:41:35.146 --> 00:41:42.139
That often gets gets the lights from here, you know, the lights in front of me, it shows those lights and you get that glare on there.

00:41:42.561 --> 00:41:46.387
I'd have to tilt it just a little bit to kind of get that, to kind of get that out.

00:41:46.849 --> 00:41:47.068
Yeah.

00:41:47.210 --> 00:41:53.561
And so I don't think you could, rather than getting, so Ralph says, no, he was saying glare filter for the monitor.

00:41:53.802 --> 00:41:56.407
I wouldn't put a glare filter on your monitor.

00:41:56.867 --> 00:41:57.650
Just turn it down.

00:41:58.050 --> 00:41:58.811
Like

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it does the same thing.

00:42:00.213 --> 00:42:02.496
That anti-glare, you could try.

00:42:02.516 --> 00:42:06.981
I mean, certainly for a regular monitor, you can pick up those anti-glare ones.

00:42:07.061 --> 00:42:11.588
Or sometimes they have those ones where you can't see in from the side.

00:42:11.648 --> 00:42:14.773
Those have some of the, I haven't tried that to see if I get the glare out.

00:42:15.474 --> 00:42:18.597
I would tilt the monitor first, the back of the monitor behind you.

00:42:18.757 --> 00:42:22.764
I would tilt it just a little bit to see if you can get that reflection of it out of there.

00:42:22.884 --> 00:42:25.628
And then just do some recording to see what it looks like.

00:42:25.708 --> 00:42:27.309
That would be my first step.

00:42:28.289 --> 00:42:34.898
Yeah, Jason says my TV behind me hits my key light and the frames on the wall behind me used to get them too.

00:42:35.298 --> 00:42:45.771
Yeah, I remember when I had a big monitor on a stand that I could roll around and the problem was I had a white background with the School of Podcasting logo.

00:42:46.112 --> 00:42:49.856
Well, I'm blasting a white light right back into the camera lens.

00:42:50.396 --> 00:42:52.420
So that caused all sorts of problems.

00:42:52.460 --> 00:43:06.059
And then in the early days, I had to go into my camera and turn on some sort of feature because you would end up with this weird line that either made things flicker or you would just see this line constantly going through the screen.

00:43:06.099 --> 00:43:09.664
That's the refresh rate on the camera, right?

00:43:09.804 --> 00:43:10.405
That's doing that.

00:43:11.086 --> 00:43:17.016
Because the camera is refreshing at a different frame rate than the the monitor is.

00:43:17.115 --> 00:43:18.358
And so that's when you get those lines.

00:43:18.777 --> 00:43:26.688
We don't see that anymore because a lot of the computer stuff that's made today has that anti-flicker built into it so that they've just kind of taken it out.

00:43:26.748 --> 00:43:28.851
I can't tell you all the technology they did to do that.

00:43:29.431 --> 00:43:30.994
We're just not seeing that anymore.

00:43:31.054 --> 00:43:38.143
If I bring my mic down, you'll see right above here to my right, as you're looking there to your, that's an Amazon Alexa screen, right?

00:43:38.164 --> 00:43:39.224
And it's flickering a little bit.

00:43:39.284 --> 00:43:44.012
That's the, it's just an old one, but it doesn't get any glare because it's mounted backward.

00:43:44.072 --> 00:43:45.693
I mean, it's tilted, right?

00:43:45.793 --> 00:43:48.297
And so I don't get any glare off that.

00:43:48.617 --> 00:43:52.581
And as you look at that screen, you really can't tell that it's tilted.

00:43:53.442 --> 00:43:54.463
So that's the secret.

00:43:54.523 --> 00:43:59.889
This is why sometimes if you don't want glare in your glasses, you'll see people, they'll tilt them up like this.

00:43:59.909 --> 00:44:08.237
You know, now I think that looks silly when they do that, but you know, that was, that's the trick for getting glare out of glasses and some of those kinds of things just to tilt them up.

00:44:08.858 --> 00:44:11.181
So try the tilt, try the tilt first.

00:44:11.922 --> 00:44:15.045
See if you can on that big 85 inch as far as the way it is back.

00:44:15.425 --> 00:44:17.550
A little bit of tilt may take that glare right out.

00:44:18.793 --> 00:44:23.945
Yeah, my lights are in the ceiling, and they're basically not really pointed at me.

00:44:23.965 --> 00:44:29.637
I just happen to be in the cross path, and it's pointing at the logo that nobody can see behind me.

00:44:30.018 --> 00:44:31.018
Well,

00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:32.041
higher lights are better.

00:44:32.061 --> 00:44:33.202
I mean, you have a point there.

00:44:33.762 --> 00:44:36.407
If your lights are glaring back into you, you might have them too low.

00:44:36.987 --> 00:44:39.911
Get them higher up and point it down and a little softer.

00:44:39.952 --> 00:44:43.697
And oftentimes, you know, my lights disappear when I tilt my head down a little

00:44:43.717 --> 00:44:43.777
bit.

00:44:43.797 --> 00:44:46.141
Yeah, I'm going to say that and I just don't talk like this.

00:44:46.702 --> 00:44:47.202
There

00:44:47.903 --> 00:44:48.585
we go.

00:44:48.744 --> 00:44:50.086
You can see some of the glare, yeah.

00:44:50.608 --> 00:44:57.797
Yeah, that'll, it's, again, every time you add something to the mix, it's okay, you know, now what's going on.

00:44:58.306 --> 00:44:59.666
Let's talk.

00:44:59.686 --> 00:45:04.192
I don't know if we talked about this or not, but it does come up from time to time.

00:45:04.693 --> 00:45:06.414
I'm feeling despondent.

00:45:06.934 --> 00:45:12.260
My stats have dropped off after a pretty steady run of increases in everything from followers to engaged listeners.

00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:14.202
This morning, I did a smart thing.

00:45:14.262 --> 00:45:19.807
I went into Apple for creators and went back through the timeline to the same time and month from last year.

00:45:19.827 --> 00:45:22.291
It's this time of year, not my podcast.

00:45:22.331 --> 00:45:23.811
June and July have rubbish.

00:45:24.172 --> 00:45:25.213
They have rubbish stats.

00:45:25.634 --> 00:45:27.195
And August is a bounce back.

00:45:27.396 --> 00:45:33.244
So I've decided that instead of working through them, these months are when I'm going to take a much-earned pause.

00:45:33.264 --> 00:45:35.688
I don't know if I would take a pause, but okay.

00:45:35.748 --> 00:45:37.670
Batch record, there you go.

00:45:37.690 --> 00:45:39.532
Learn the things I need to learn and write that book.

00:45:40.153 --> 00:45:54.333
So yeah, especially if you're doing any kind of seasonal show or a wedding show, for example, where everybody gets married in the spring, you're going to have a drop-off come winter because who wants to stand outside and get married in the snow?

00:45:54.914 --> 00:45:55.856
Some people, I'm sure.

00:45:55.896 --> 00:45:56.820
They're definitely people.

00:45:57.581 --> 00:46:00.130
We see a solid dip in the summer on our numbers.

00:46:00.170 --> 00:46:01.534
I was just looking at them the other day.

00:46:01.574 --> 00:46:05.166
Some folks were asking me to justify some things.

00:46:05.226 --> 00:46:06.911
So I was like, well, let's pull some stats.

00:46:07.492 --> 00:46:08.677
And yeah, I see this.

00:46:09.057 --> 00:46:16.708
February, March peak, and then April, May, June, and then June, July, August, it really dips.

00:46:17.307 --> 00:46:19.331
And then it'll come back again, September, October.

00:46:19.371 --> 00:46:21.974
That's the, I think that's the nature of our content.

00:46:21.994 --> 00:46:24.257
I don't know if that's necessarily true for everyone.

00:46:24.797 --> 00:46:31.505
But I think keeping stats and checking them year over year is a smart idea, if you're going to do that.

00:46:32.007 --> 00:46:34.269
I mean, I was, I think I was talking to Ed earlier.

00:46:34.530 --> 00:46:46.822
Sullivan the other day, and I was talking about my stats, and I had been so long that I'd logged into Blueberry to get my stats that I didn't, I couldn't, like, my password had expired, like, everything.

00:46:46.842 --> 00:46:50.586
I had to reset up some stuff and send some emails to places to get it.

00:46:50.606 --> 00:46:51.987
It had been so long since I'd been in.

00:46:52.608 --> 00:46:54.971
I don't see those kinds of dips in Home Gadget Geeks.

00:46:55.251 --> 00:46:59.476
That's just a show, does the same download numbers.

00:46:59.536 --> 00:47:08.436
I do about four, 450 Every show just kind of like clockwork and it just, so I don't see those regional bumps.

00:47:08.737 --> 00:47:11.141
So I think it depends on your content for sure.

00:47:11.802 --> 00:47:12.023
Yeah.

00:47:12.503 --> 00:47:23.663
I know my show gets a bump in January and then kind of, you know, November it start, it picks up at the later end of the year and the beginning of the year.

00:47:23.742 --> 00:47:25.266
And then I have to go back and look.

00:47:25.730 --> 00:47:28.574
But I just know it doesn't have huge swings.

00:47:28.793 --> 00:47:29.695
January is always a

00:47:29.755 --> 00:47:30.635
huge swing.

00:47:31.077 --> 00:47:31.898
What does this show do?

00:47:31.938 --> 00:47:32.277
Do you know?

00:47:32.297 --> 00:47:35.521
From a download, do we see any seasonal in this show?

00:47:35.722 --> 00:47:36.503
I don't think so.

00:47:36.543 --> 00:47:46.536
The only thing I saw was for a little bit, I started running one ad in the show, and that did not go over well at all.

00:47:46.675 --> 00:47:47.978
And I was like, okay, never mind.

00:47:48.018 --> 00:47:48.559
I'm just kidding.

00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:50.021
We're not doing those.

00:47:50.041 --> 00:47:52.403
I just want to play with Buzzsprout ads.

00:47:52.483 --> 00:47:54.226
And all of a sudden, I was like, well, there's a dip.

00:47:54.786 --> 00:47:55.786
Here's another one.

00:47:55.827 --> 00:47:58.030
I'm doing these live now.

00:47:58.110 --> 00:48:01.974
I looked at all the ones I had before, and I'm like, I think we've talked about all these.

00:48:02.074 --> 00:48:03.295
Again, it's hard to find stuff.

00:48:03.795 --> 00:48:11.184
He says, I'm looking for a paid collaboration for a podcast to have a guest with my COO.

00:48:11.445 --> 00:48:18.813
So he's, hey, we will pay you to vote my COO of a renowned IT software consultancy company.

00:48:19.494 --> 00:48:33.242
He holds more than 25 years of tech experience, and they have a great vision for But technology, cybersecurity, and AI, if you're a great host or know someone who is a great host with huge subscribers and views, I'd like to collaborate with you.

00:48:33.282 --> 00:48:38.148
Do feel free to DM me, which is interesting because I guess that's not self-promotion.

00:48:38.228 --> 00:48:47.119
But the other thing that nobody talks about when people say this, if you're paying somebody to be on your show, you have to disclose that at front.

00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:54.572
If you ever listen on Sundays– on the talk channels and all of a sudden it's like, the following is a paid endorsement by the Dr.

00:48:54.612 --> 00:48:55.492
Rob Foundation.

00:48:55.552 --> 00:48:57.215
And then you're like, welcome to the Dr.

00:48:57.255 --> 00:49:00.800
Rob show where he talks about how to crack your back so you'll never be blah, blah, blah.

00:49:00.860 --> 00:49:04.385
Or the power of cinnamon.

00:49:04.826 --> 00:49:05.786
Welcome to Dr.

00:49:05.847 --> 00:49:07.028
Rob and the power of cinnamon.

00:49:07.088 --> 00:49:08.271
Buy my cinnamon pills.

00:49:09.431 --> 00:49:11.335
But you got to disclose that stuff.

00:49:11.454 --> 00:49:16.501
And I'm starting to see that come up a bit more about charging guests to be on the show.

00:49:16.581 --> 00:49:19.646
And I'm like, okay, definitely not my favorite strategy at all.

00:49:20.193 --> 00:49:23.998
But if you're going to do that, it has to be disclosed up front.

00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:28.923
So that's something to keep in mind that you might get yourself.

00:49:28.943 --> 00:49:30.385
Because there was a thing for a while.

00:49:30.405 --> 00:49:34.972
It was like ftc.gov slash influencers.

00:49:35.012 --> 00:49:36.132
I don't think that's still there.

00:49:36.592 --> 00:49:45.184
But for a while, they had a quick link that led to a video that was like, hey, if you're a YouTuber or a podcaster or an influencer, this is what you have to do.

00:49:45.224 --> 00:49:50.425
Because Kim Kardashian used to be like, oh, look, it's the Samson Q2U microphone.

00:49:50.465 --> 00:49:51.987
I think it's cute.

00:49:52.027 --> 00:49:58.012
And then she wouldn't disclose, oh, by the way, I just got paid$100,000 to hold this up and say it was cute.

00:49:58.592 --> 00:50:00.175
And so you got to do that stuff.

00:50:00.815 --> 00:50:04.338
Yeah, I tell you what, let's do this while we're here.

00:50:04.358 --> 00:50:05.920
In theory, yes.

00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.543
We haven't talked about our awesome supporters yet.

00:50:08.563 --> 00:50:12.746
And things are just, it's, ah, there we go.

00:50:12.766 --> 00:50:18.253
Again, I say I need to lose this PC so I don't have these weird issues.

00:50:18.393 --> 00:50:24.362
But you can be an awesome supporter by going over to askthepodcastcoach.com slash awesome.

00:50:24.521 --> 00:50:40.264
Also, just on that topic, today, like we have askthepodcastcoach.com slash question, because I own my domain and because I control that link, that used to point to Zoom, that now points to a page that explains, do you want to be on Zoom?

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Do you want to be on audio?

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Whatever.

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So always have those links that you can control.

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as opposed to, you know, go to whatever, supercast.com slash SOP or something like that.

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I have not made...

00:51:37.985 --> 00:51:40.128
and a single affiliate sale on that.

00:51:40.188 --> 00:51:46.574
And I went, I think my audience is happy with their live streaming solutions, whatever they have.

00:51:46.594 --> 00:51:53.820
And I went, hey, and I just started playing with vidIQ because I've heard so many people go, oh, dude, you got to get vidIQ.

00:51:54.420 --> 00:52:03.210
So I was like, hey, as I learned this and start to use it, after using it for a day and a half, just watching a bunch of videos, I was like, this thing looks pretty cool.

00:52:03.650 --> 00:52:09.259
So vidIQ, if you're on YouTube and you want to learn YouTube and how to do it right, All sorts of fun stuff over there.

00:52:09.318 --> 00:52:12.202
Go to supportthesshow.com slash vidIQ.

00:52:12.242 --> 00:52:16.186
And he said clicking to go to number six.

00:52:16.206 --> 00:52:17.266
Seriously, go to number six.

00:52:17.327 --> 00:52:20.289
It's time for the Wheel of Names.

00:52:21.030 --> 00:52:25.974
And this is where the awesome supporters are spinning around a wheel.

00:52:26.514 --> 00:52:27.797
These are the$20 supporters.

00:52:27.856 --> 00:52:30.139
People like Ralph from the Growth and Grit business.

00:52:30.579 --> 00:52:31.800
Shane from Spybrary.

00:52:32.081 --> 00:52:33.641
York from Welcome to Earth Stories.

00:52:34.063 --> 00:52:36.264
Randy from the Shooting It Straight podcast.

00:52:36.324 --> 00:52:37.465
Who is it going to be?

00:52:37.858 --> 00:52:46.148
Well, we're going to click the wheel and could it be, oh, is it Ralph?

00:52:46.228 --> 00:52:49.672
Is he going to hang on or is it Ross?

00:52:50.293 --> 00:52:56.099
The one and only king of live streaming, Ross Brand, such a great guy.

00:52:56.380 --> 00:53:00.385
And he's also the guy that puts out that book about podcast predictions every year.

00:53:00.405 --> 00:53:04.989
And if you want to check out Ross, check out live streaming universe.com.

00:53:05.153 --> 00:53:05.855
He's a great guy.

00:53:06.014 --> 00:53:08.757
Or just go over to askthepodcastcoach.com.

00:53:09.358 --> 00:53:11.521
Or you'll now notice that we can do this, Jim.

00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:12.121
Ooh.

00:53:12.561 --> 00:53:13.063
Yeah, there he is.

00:53:13.143 --> 00:53:15.184
Livestream universe.

00:53:15.204 --> 00:53:18.327
If you are looking to, you know, thanks

00:53:18.367 --> 00:53:20.791
to all of our- Look at you, up in your game on links.

00:53:20.871 --> 00:53:21.472
Nicely

00:53:21.492 --> 00:53:21.731
done.

00:53:21.891 --> 00:53:22.992
Trying to, at least.

00:53:23.112 --> 00:53:28.800
I was like, well, you know, now can I- Ooh, now if I wanted to- So I'm playing with this preview mode.

00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:33.625
So like right now, I know we are looking at that and I can say thank you to all the supporters.

00:53:33.704 --> 00:53:35.806
But in theory- Yeah, it's not working.

00:53:36.547 --> 00:53:42.835
I was going to try to switch because when I go back here, we're still at the wheel of names, except now nothing's working.

00:53:42.896 --> 00:53:43.436
Well, there you go.

00:53:43.476 --> 00:53:44.217
That's always fun.

00:53:44.697 --> 00:53:46.179
Yeah, we're just stuck on that screen.

00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:46.581
Can we?

00:53:46.701 --> 00:53:46.900
Nope.

00:53:47.521 --> 00:53:47.702
All right.

00:53:47.762 --> 00:53:49.844
What was the problem the last time we got stuck in?

00:53:49.864 --> 00:53:50.346
There we go.

00:53:50.365 --> 00:53:50.385
I

00:53:50.945 --> 00:53:51.686
was like, wait, it's just.

00:53:51.726 --> 00:53:52.748
You have to finish.

00:53:52.829 --> 00:53:53.228
Yeah, there

00:53:53.389 --> 00:53:53.510
you go.

00:53:53.530 --> 00:53:53.969
Wow, there you go.

00:53:53.989 --> 00:53:55.793
It's just a very, yeah.

00:53:55.813 --> 00:53:59.978
So if you found this show valuable, it was just a weird, really long delay there.

00:54:00.498 --> 00:54:09.240
If you find the show valuable, consider going to Askthepodcastcoach.com slash awesome and being an awesome supporter today.

00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:11.606
Here's a fun one, unless I missed one.

00:54:11.646 --> 00:54:13.612
You sounded like you were going to say something.

00:54:14.273 --> 00:54:15.237
Yeah, there was a question.

00:54:15.257 --> 00:54:17.202
Did you get Stephanie Graham's question?

00:54:17.682 --> 00:54:17.864
Which

00:54:17.923 --> 00:54:17.983
one?

00:54:18.003 --> 00:54:18.525
About LinkedIn?

00:54:18.606 --> 00:54:18.686
Yeah.

00:54:19.170 --> 00:54:19.550
Oh no.

00:54:20.512 --> 00:54:24.335
She said, can you share how your, how you market your podcast on LinkedIn?

00:54:24.376 --> 00:54:32.947
I'm looking to be more intentional on that platform beyond the automatic new episode updates that pod page already posts.

00:54:33.467 --> 00:54:39.994
For me, I come over to LinkedIn and here again, everything's on a delay.

00:54:40.596 --> 00:54:44.900
Can we zoom in a bit for anybody watching?

00:54:45.521 --> 00:54:52.960
What I like to do is kind of come over, And I've got, you know, the Dave hat and I've got the pod page hat.

00:54:53.501 --> 00:55:00.871
So if I, well, if I click here, number one, whoever's commenting on my stuff, usually there's an activity down here.

00:55:00.931 --> 00:55:04.577
So I can say who's, you know, what kind of comments have I gotten?

00:55:04.677 --> 00:55:09.726
So this is what I've said, but I'm kind of looking for ways to jump into a conversation.

00:55:09.746 --> 00:55:17.157
And I forget, I'm not by any means like this is the platform I'm horrible at.

00:55:17.666 --> 00:55:23.773
So, but I just know if I go into PodPage, yeah, here I can come over to the activity thing.

00:55:23.873 --> 00:55:26.177
Now, maybe I need to have a business to do this.

00:55:26.697 --> 00:55:30.063
So I can see that Trout Steve mentioned your company in a comment.

00:55:30.422 --> 00:55:34.568
So I might want to go over here and see what the heck they're talking about.

00:55:34.588 --> 00:55:37.813
So this is the podcast tech stack.

00:55:38.333 --> 00:55:40.496
This is a show Brendan and I were on.

00:55:40.536 --> 00:55:46.965
And so he's linking here to PodPage and I've probably already commented on this would be my guess.

00:55:47.489 --> 00:55:48.512
If not, yeah, here it is.

00:55:48.594 --> 00:55:49.396
Keep up the great work.

00:55:49.838 --> 00:55:56.340
So I will go and leave comments just because people that are coming to this, I want them to see pod page.

00:55:56.981 --> 00:55:58.989
Jim, do you have any strategies?

00:55:59.009 --> 00:56:00.333
Do you play much on LinkedIn?

00:56:00.865 --> 00:56:01.266
Oh, yeah.

00:56:01.326 --> 00:56:05.329
We've got, and I stream our podcast to my personal account.

00:56:05.889 --> 00:56:14.478
We've just decided to not send those to the corporate accounts, but the corporate account and I go back and forth on posts for each other.

00:56:14.498 --> 00:56:15.938
So I'll like theirs, they like mine.

00:56:15.978 --> 00:56:19.342
And that seems to work out really well for us.

00:56:20.103 --> 00:56:38.860
One of the things I found interesting is going live, and we're live on LinkedIn right now too, but the live views on LinkedIn, now, some of this is, and the reason we use my personal account is because in the work I do, I follow every single certified coach or I try to find every single certified coach that we have.

00:56:39.362 --> 00:56:43.927
So I have 20,000, now maybe 21,000 connections on LinkedIn.

00:56:44.507 --> 00:56:49.773
So when I go live or when I post something, it shows up in a bunch of people's threads.

00:56:50.554 --> 00:56:52.777
And it's not uncommon with very little advertising.

00:56:53.018 --> 00:56:59.666
I think I did 150 views of a live episode we did on LinkedIn the other day with very little work.

00:56:59.905 --> 00:57:05.331
So it, for me, the strategy has been to make sure I'm connected to those folks.

00:57:05.371 --> 00:57:07.172
Now, I have a reason to be connected to them, right?

00:57:07.231 --> 00:57:08.532
They're part of our business.

00:57:08.594 --> 00:57:10.835
They're, they're customers, right?

00:57:11.036 --> 00:57:15.579
It's my expectation as a community manager that I can have that kind of relationship with them.

00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:17.621
Not so with everybody on LinkedIn.

00:57:17.661 --> 00:57:24.027
If you just start going out and following or trying to connect to a bunch of random people, that's probably not as effective.

00:57:24.947 --> 00:57:32.115
I have noticed, too, the coordination between our CliftonStrengths or Gallup account and and my account going back and forth.

00:57:32.235 --> 00:57:37.465
I'll help them publish something or promote something on a post and they'll do the same with me.

00:57:37.485 --> 00:57:38.927
It makes a big difference.

00:57:39.347 --> 00:57:41.211
And so that's how we're using the LinkedIn.

00:57:41.753 --> 00:57:48.384
I find the one caveat I would give with LinkedIn is for whatever you do not spam your LinkedIn channel.

00:57:48.523 --> 00:57:49.166
Be relevant.

00:57:49.538 --> 00:57:50.498
Be interesting.

00:57:50.860 --> 00:57:53.844
For the love of God, do not make everything AI.

00:57:54.143 --> 00:57:58.048
It's appropriate in some cases, but you can tell every AI post.

00:57:58.088 --> 00:58:04.878
I mean, I follow some folks, and every day they're posting something new with a graphic and a big, long AI thing.

00:58:04.918 --> 00:58:09.445
And you know it's AI because it's got all those silly emojis in there, right?

00:58:09.565 --> 00:58:11.748
You know how AI adds those emojis to everything?

00:58:11.967 --> 00:58:12.789
Tons.

00:58:13.190 --> 00:58:16.514
And you're like, oh, yeah, you can tell in a second, oh, this is AI.

00:58:16.833 --> 00:58:19.458
No, not that AI-generated content is bad.

00:58:19.746 --> 00:58:27.507
But listen, if you spam me every day in my channel with that kind of content, I just don't have the time to read all that.

00:58:27.688 --> 00:58:31.418
I have found posting once or twice a week is a great rhythm.

00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:34.021
I get, I have great analytics on LinkedIn.

00:58:35.161 --> 00:58:38.385
So LinkedIn, I think, is one of those platforms you want to be careful on.

00:58:38.445 --> 00:58:42.367
I mean, maybe you can get away with it on Instagram or TikTok or some of those kinds of things.

00:58:42.467 --> 00:58:45.050
But LinkedIn has a different expectation.

00:58:45.130 --> 00:58:52.697
And when I say not LinkedIn, but the people on LinkedIn, kind of have a different expectation for you in who you are and what you do.

00:58:53.458 --> 00:58:55.199
So I just, I would be reasonable.

00:58:55.460 --> 00:58:57.762
I mean, I'd say be reasonable on any social platform.

00:58:57.802 --> 00:59:01.846
But hey, if it works on TikTok to just blast a videos a day.

00:59:03.188 --> 00:59:04.130
And it does, actually.

00:59:04.150 --> 00:59:04.992
It does work well.

00:59:05.713 --> 00:59:06.313
Not on LinkedIn.

00:59:06.594 --> 00:59:08.538
I would say be reasonable, be professional.

00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:10.420
It's a professional network.

00:59:10.501 --> 00:59:12.744
I mean, I think we all know that by now, right?

00:59:13.226 --> 00:59:14.827
Don't post your family stuff out there.

00:59:14.847 --> 00:59:15.690
Nobody wants to see that.

00:59:15.710 --> 00:59:17.353
We don't want to see your vacation photos.

00:59:17.592 --> 00:59:19.675
That's not It's not the place to do that.

00:59:20.456 --> 00:59:21.117
I'm starting to

00:59:21.197 --> 00:59:22.639
see that, though, which is weird.

00:59:22.980 --> 00:59:23.380
I know.

00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.663
And I'm like, wait, this isn't Facebook.

00:59:26.344 --> 00:59:35.114
And I know she had mentioned about how I've heard people are leaving TikTok because it's just when they came out with the TikTok store, it's just kind of ruining it.

00:59:35.135 --> 00:59:36.577
Everybody's just, hey, buy my stuff.

00:59:37.277 --> 00:59:41.623
And she was saying how LinkedIn is maybe now the new Instagram.

00:59:41.643 --> 00:59:46.269
What I'm hearing now is Instagram is the new TikTok, right?

00:59:46.657 --> 00:59:48.019
basically, which is the old tick.

00:59:48.139 --> 00:59:48.581
You know what I mean?

00:59:48.641 --> 00:59:50.003
It's like people are on Instagram.

00:59:50.023 --> 00:59:55.369
Then they went to tick tock and now tick tock has kind of ruined itself and everybody's going back to Instagram.

00:59:55.409 --> 00:59:57.932
But I'm like, I just go where your audience is and

00:59:58.393 --> 00:59:59.795
don't spray and pray.

00:59:59.956 --> 01:00:05.903
Like I just, I get so tired and you can kind of, I can kind of see it in my feeds of folks who get up.

01:00:05.923 --> 01:00:08.547
They're like, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to do some things.

01:00:08.608 --> 01:00:15.456
And for a couple of months, every day, I'm just blasting my, you know, they're blasting threads out to me.

01:00:16.057 --> 01:00:17.621
And, Jim Collison, Ph.D.:

00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.000
:

01:00:17.721 --> 01:00:18.543
Eventually, I'll say, stop.

01:00:19.105 --> 01:00:20.289
I don't want to see you anymore.

01:00:20.670 --> 01:00:21.110
You

01:00:21.150 --> 01:00:23.978
know, listen, you can do the same thing with email.

01:00:24.621 --> 01:00:30.012
Like eventually, if you email people too much, They'll be like, enough already.

01:00:30.132 --> 01:00:31.353
And they'll block you, right?

01:00:31.393 --> 01:00:33.195
Or they'll unsubscribe.

01:00:33.295 --> 01:00:34.155
And we know that.

01:00:34.436 --> 01:00:35.436
It's inherent for email.

01:00:35.456 --> 01:00:36.376
I hope we know that for email.

01:00:36.757 --> 01:00:40.920
It's inherent that, like, you can't, don't send people an email every single day.

01:00:40.940 --> 01:00:45.344
Although, to be honest, I have some advertisers that I've signed up for.

01:00:45.846 --> 01:00:47.567
Solo Stove is one of them.

01:00:47.646 --> 01:00:49.949
They literally send me a text every day.

01:00:49.989 --> 01:00:50.650
I got to stop it.

01:00:50.750 --> 01:00:55.853
Like, I've got to, guys, if I haven't bought by now, I'm probably not going to buy.

01:00:55.873 --> 01:00:57.376
Or maybe I already bought one.

01:00:57.755 --> 01:00:57.936
Stop.

01:00:57.936 --> 01:00:59.938
Stop

01:00:59.978 --> 01:01:04.985
sending me every day.

01:01:22.849 --> 01:01:25.855
And it's just every day there's more and more stuff.

01:01:25.914 --> 01:01:26.436
And I get it.

01:01:26.456 --> 01:01:28.338
They want to backlink, blah, blah, blah.

01:01:28.358 --> 01:01:32.324
But it's just, you know, and it's not even remotely related to podcasting.

01:01:32.344 --> 01:01:38.775
That's the part that gets me that, you know, they want to kind of partner up with, you know, let's let me write something for your site.

01:01:38.956 --> 01:01:40.838
And they're like, OK, but what do you want to write?

01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:44.746
Oh, about, you know, how there's aluminum in your deodorant.

01:01:44.885 --> 01:01:45.706
It's killing the world.

01:01:45.746 --> 01:01:46.849
You're like, yeah, no, thank you.

01:01:47.309 --> 01:01:49.773
Randy says LinkedIn banned him from making a comment.

01:01:50.402 --> 01:01:55.047
on a news article about LeBron James and his son being the epitome of nepotism.

01:01:55.507 --> 01:01:57.951
Well, shame on you for having an attitude.

01:01:58.472 --> 01:02:00.514
You're not an attitude, an opinion.

01:02:00.974 --> 01:02:07.262
Yeah, it's what's interesting, kind of getting, so LinkedIn is, I just try to go over and interact with people.

01:02:07.402 --> 01:02:10.347
I know Jodi said she tries being a voiceover person.

01:02:10.927 --> 01:02:13.369
She says I make sure to connect with people who are in charge of audio.

01:02:13.990 --> 01:02:16.134
So I try to be social over there now.

01:02:16.273 --> 01:02:19.597
I took a little baby course in LinkedIn and that was basically it.

01:02:19.938 --> 01:02:23.443
is, hey, it's kind of a social network for business people.

01:02:23.523 --> 01:02:25.485
So go, you know, be social.

01:02:26.306 --> 01:02:28.130
And I was like, oh, that's a novel idea.

01:02:28.269 --> 01:02:31.135
And then my posts are usually like what I did.

01:02:31.735 --> 01:02:36.262
We have a newsletter for pod page that goes out to our customers.

01:02:36.882 --> 01:02:41.590
And I was like, hey, like, what if somebody that's not a customer wants to be part of our newsletter?

01:02:41.630 --> 01:02:47.057
And I said, well, hey, there's this thing called LinkedIn that we're trying to be seen more on.

01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:52.478
So I just copy our newsletter from our tool and put it out as a LinkedIn newsletter.

01:02:52.518 --> 01:02:53.559
And if you want it, it's there.

01:02:53.579 --> 01:02:57.003
And if you don't, but you know, Stephanie has a question.

01:02:57.605 --> 01:02:59.807
She says, Hey, I'm doing a survey with my audience.

01:02:59.847 --> 01:03:00.327
There we go.

01:03:00.869 --> 01:03:05.414
Granted the episode came out on Friday for the holiday, but still at zero responses.

01:03:05.454 --> 01:03:06.335
That's kind of normal.

01:03:06.876 --> 01:03:10.802
Any encouragement, I have a gift card and I, and thank you gifts at the ready.

01:03:10.842 --> 01:03:11.684
Yeah.

01:03:11.963 --> 01:03:13.025
On a holiday weekend.

01:03:13.585 --> 01:03:13.806
Yeah.

01:03:14.306 --> 01:03:29.563
I would give it a good, at least a month, if not because you're going to get, this is sad, unless you're Ray from aroundthelayout.com because he has that super engaged model train audience.

01:03:29.983 --> 01:03:33.608
I usually say somewhere around 3% will take action anytime you do anything.

01:03:33.768 --> 01:03:36.592
I want you to buy something if you're lucky 3%.

01:03:36.733 --> 01:03:43.422
I want to do this, you know, or in a survey, even if it's a, you know, hey, it's a$20 Amazon thing.

01:03:43.463 --> 01:03:46.126
You can buy some coffee, whatever, you know.

01:03:46.166 --> 01:03:51.358
So definitely don't get After one day, no responses.

01:03:51.938 --> 01:03:53.280
And then did you make it easy?

01:03:53.300 --> 01:03:58.710
Is it, you know, in the case of Stephanie, nosyaf.com slash survey.

01:03:58.730 --> 01:04:00.472
And it's kind of weird.

01:04:00.532 --> 01:04:02.835
Some people are a little confused on this.

01:04:02.916 --> 01:04:04.458
Do I send it to my newsletter?

01:04:04.478 --> 01:04:10.108
And I'm like, well, if you're trying to survey your podcast audience, are they that different than your newsletter?

01:04:10.148 --> 01:04:13.813
That's one I can never really, I can see both sides of that one.

01:04:14.474 --> 01:04:16.478
But yeah, not having any responses there.

01:04:16.610 --> 01:04:21.315
Jim, what, do you know what kind of, are you allowed to say what kind of percentage you get on your, cause you're

01:04:21.356 --> 01:04:22.197
the survey guy.

01:04:22.217 --> 01:04:22.818
I don't know.

01:04:22.858 --> 01:04:23.739
It varies.

01:04:24.179 --> 01:04:24.559
It varies.

01:04:24.619 --> 01:04:27.643
Cause we have panels that it's their job to answer these questions.

01:04:27.722 --> 01:04:33.150
And we've, we don't generally just do the, we used to do a lot of phone call surveys, right?

01:04:33.190 --> 01:04:34.831
Those have a different response rate.

01:04:35.313 --> 01:04:38.056
So I couldn't say cause not cause I can't, cause I don't know.

01:04:38.777 --> 01:04:40.097
Stephanie, I would, was that Stephanie?

01:04:40.179 --> 01:04:40.318
No.

01:04:40.518 --> 01:04:40.878
Yeah.

01:04:40.918 --> 01:04:41.579
Stephanie said that.

01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.385
Stephanie, Friday was before the holiday was a bad decision, but it's done.

01:04:45.425 --> 01:04:46.365
Yeah.

01:04:46.561 --> 01:04:47.925
Remind them again on Tuesday.

01:04:48.327 --> 01:04:52.297
So Tuesdays are the best day to send surveys, Tuesdays and Wednesdays, if you're going to do that.

01:04:52.336 --> 01:05:00.498
You know, Tuesday mornings, because around the other planet, if you're sending them from the US, it's already Tuesday afternoon, they'll pick that up on Wednesday.

01:05:01.019 --> 01:05:03.186
But send out another reminder on Tuesday.

01:05:03.458 --> 01:05:04.800
and say, Don't do Mondays.

01:05:05.141 --> 01:05:05.981
Mondays are horrible.

01:05:06.543 --> 01:05:08.806
Stuff gets lost on Fridays and Mondays, right?

01:05:09.206 --> 01:05:10.809
So just send out a reminder on Tuesday.

01:05:10.869 --> 01:05:14.275
Resend that out and say, Hey, just a reminder.

01:05:14.315 --> 01:05:14.936
Don't apologize.

01:05:14.976 --> 01:05:16.197
Just, it's a reminder.

01:05:16.237 --> 01:05:17.760
Surveys available.

01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:18.300
Go out there.

01:05:18.481 --> 01:05:22.867
It generally takes a couple reminders to get people to actually follow up on those things.

01:05:22.907 --> 01:05:25.572
So a one-and-done is not a great way.

01:05:25.632 --> 01:05:38.380
We, when we do our, even we have a very engaged um, customers that we send surveys to, it takes a couple reminders to get the, you know, to get what we're looking for on it.

01:05:38.860 --> 01:05:40.364
So that would be my recommendation.

01:05:40.905 --> 01:05:42.266
Don't send them before holiday.

01:05:42.487 --> 01:05:44.429
That's especially a us holiday.

01:05:44.469 --> 01:05:51.822
If your customers are mostly us based, that's that, that don't do that on a holiday basis, but you did.

01:05:52.001 --> 01:05:52.362
It's okay.

01:05:52.583 --> 01:05:52.983
Send it again.

01:05:53.585 --> 01:05:53.764
Yeah.

01:05:54.465 --> 01:05:56.530
Chris says I get spammed a lot on LinkedIn.

01:05:56.961 --> 01:05:59.565
Each new connection just tries to pitch slap.

01:06:00.206 --> 01:06:00.547
I've never

01:06:00.567 --> 01:06:02.088
heard that phrase before.

01:06:02.108 --> 01:06:02.670
I'm going to use

01:06:02.730 --> 01:06:03.550
that.

01:06:04.391 --> 01:06:10.360
Jason says, anyone using a gimbal for their video podcast just got an Insta360 Flow 2 Pro.

01:06:11.081 --> 01:06:17.489
Going to try to incorporate that with the Rode Micros with some on-location table video podcasts.

01:06:18.371 --> 01:06:19.211
I have a gimbal.

01:06:19.733 --> 01:06:20.213
It's fun.

01:06:20.233 --> 01:06:27.568
It's one of those where I could walk around, podcast movement, and It would take all the jitters out, and I think I've used it twice.

01:06:28.514 --> 01:06:31.797
It's one of those things where I'm like, yeah, or I could just hold it with my hand, but

01:06:31.996 --> 01:06:32.536
yeah.

01:06:32.918 --> 01:06:36.041
Listen, Action Jackson is not, you're not out there.

01:06:36.101 --> 01:06:42.927
It would have been really good to use that for concert footage with why you're playing and someone's walking around.

01:06:43.507 --> 01:06:48.190
You know, they have very specific use cases and I don't see that being your use case.

01:06:48.610 --> 01:06:48.851
Yeah.

01:06:48.992 --> 01:06:55.797
So, you know, there's a lot of YouTubers that use a gimbal to help keep that if you're walking around a lot or some of those kinds

01:06:55.858 --> 01:06:56.038
of things.

01:06:56.057 --> 01:06:57.579
Well, and Jason's on the road so much.

01:06:57.778 --> 01:06:59.666
He can make all sorts a cool travel video.

01:06:59.686 --> 01:07:00.108
So yeah.

01:07:00.710 --> 01:07:02.559
But I forget the one I have.

01:07:02.739 --> 01:07:03.925
It's in a box down there.

01:07:03.965 --> 01:07:04.688
So I'll...

01:07:04.929 --> 01:07:05.530
to get that for you.

01:07:05.550 --> 01:07:05.791
Jim Collison

01:07:05.811 --> 01:07:15.467
There's some really cool cameras out right now, like for, I mean, this whole YouTuber thing that's going on right now has created, you know, the hero with GoPro.

01:07:15.586 --> 01:07:15.706
Yeah.

01:07:16.168 --> 01:07:26.925
The GoPros kind of started this way back in, well, yeah, I'll say they started it, of having some really good camera equipment really designed for on the move, right?

01:07:27.746 --> 01:07:29.469
And then others have kind of kicked in.

01:07:29.650 --> 01:07:34.047
But there's some right now, if you want to get And they're not terribly expensive.

01:07:34.108 --> 01:07:35.789
I mean, cameras are pretty reasonable.

01:07:35.889 --> 01:07:45.583
If you want to get a good camera for both your podcast, for both up here, what you're doing in the studio, and maybe what you're doing outside of the studio, now's the time.

01:07:46.483 --> 01:07:47.244
I would pick something.

01:07:47.284 --> 01:07:50.228
I'd find something and upgrade your camera right now.

01:07:50.329 --> 01:07:54.333
I think this is the best price point we're going to see for a while.

01:07:54.434 --> 01:07:56.516
And then I think everything just goes north from here.

01:07:56.697 --> 01:07:58.438
So pick something up and upgrade.

01:07:58.478 --> 01:08:00.621
If you need a camera upgrade, now would be a good time to do it.

01:08:01.954 --> 01:08:03.737
And another question here from Jeff.

01:08:04.557 --> 01:08:10.387
What's the best way to get podcast listeners from passive to active members of your community?

01:08:11.108 --> 01:08:16.317
Not even purchasing, but just on your list or in your free group?

01:08:16.778 --> 01:08:17.759
That's a great question.

01:08:17.819 --> 01:08:19.001
That is a great question.

01:08:19.381 --> 01:08:19.622
Yeah, it is a

01:08:19.641 --> 01:08:20.623
great question, yeah.

01:08:21.284 --> 01:08:23.268
Fear of missing out sometimes.

01:08:23.569 --> 01:08:29.257
So if you're like, hey, on today's show, we're talking about something that Stephanie brought up.

01:08:29.537 --> 01:08:38.212
In the private group that we have, if you want to join it, because it creates that, hey, it sounds like all the cool kids are over in the Facebook group kind of thing.

01:08:38.792 --> 01:08:39.675
That would be one.

01:08:39.715 --> 01:08:41.537
Jim, you got any?

01:08:43.060 --> 01:08:51.014
Yeah, one, I think this is the hardest thing to do is convert those lurkers, right, the ones that are out on the fringe into the active group.

01:08:51.457 --> 01:08:56.324
Sometimes there are lurkers for a reason, and I've brought lurkers in, and I regretted it.

01:08:58.989 --> 01:09:01.432
So one, be careful what you wish for on that one.

01:09:02.916 --> 01:09:07.603
Jeff, I'm going to say, like we say all the time, continue to make great content.

01:09:07.703 --> 01:09:09.164
Continue to invite folks in.

01:09:09.204 --> 01:09:15.595
Don't miss any opportunity if somebody emails you or connects with you or joins the group to welcome them.

01:09:15.635 --> 01:09:17.256
You can never force them in.

01:09:17.297 --> 01:09:19.761
In some cases, I wouldn't recommend you force them in.

01:09:20.481 --> 01:09:27.141
But just be open and inviting and friendly, you know, and make sure you have groups that are open and friendly.

01:09:27.724 --> 01:09:38.323
Because, you know, if I'll use this term that was out there earlier, if you have a group and the first interaction with that person is getting pitch slapped the first time they're in the group, right?

01:09:38.363 --> 01:09:42.989
They join the group and then they just get inundated with, well, do this and buy that.

01:09:43.029 --> 01:09:44.592
I'm not saying you do this, Jeff, by the way.

01:09:44.613 --> 01:09:45.514
I'm not saying you do that.

01:09:45.654 --> 01:09:50.922
I've just been a part of groups that have done that where it's just a sales pitch from the very beginning.

01:09:51.384 --> 01:09:53.487
I don't think that makes for a very inviting group.

01:09:53.707 --> 01:09:55.329
I think you just got to be consistent.

01:09:55.369 --> 01:09:57.052
And maybe this would be the key.

01:09:57.753 --> 01:10:00.457
Be consistently friendly over long periods of time.

01:10:01.219 --> 01:10:02.902
And eventually those folks will convert.

01:10:03.137 --> 01:10:03.398
right?

01:10:03.639 --> 01:10:05.962
Have great products, and eventually they'll convert.

01:10:06.381 --> 01:10:10.226
Have great messages, and eventually they'll convert, right, in there.

01:10:10.686 --> 01:10:17.194
Bringing some, sometimes bringing them in too early, this is where I think a lot of podcasters, you know, oh, if I could just give something away.

01:10:17.235 --> 01:10:25.265
Listen, giveaways bring in a whole different group of people, and they may or may not be who you want to spend your time with.

01:10:25.765 --> 01:10:33.712
We say, in management, right, we say you spend 80% of your time with 20% of your best performers, right?

01:10:33.771 --> 01:10:36.335
And the others get the 20% that's left over.

01:10:37.435 --> 01:10:38.877
Because there's great value in that.

01:10:38.917 --> 01:10:42.603
And I think that with your listeners, with your audience, I think it's the same case.

01:10:42.722 --> 01:10:49.351
You spend 80% of your time making sure you're taking care of your audience that's there and existing, right?

01:10:49.931 --> 01:10:54.337
If you do that, they'll see that, and they'll be attracted to that, and they'll want some of that.

01:10:54.626 --> 01:10:54.805
right?

01:10:54.826 --> 01:11:00.851
They'll be like, Oh, man, if I see Jeff doing, you know, this, that's attractive to me.

01:11:01.052 --> 01:11:01.993
I want to do that, too.

01:11:02.573 --> 01:11:04.216
That's how you want to pull them in, right?

01:11:04.336 --> 01:11:10.282
Rather than gimmicks and giveaways and, you know, you just get a whole different group of people when you do giveaways.

01:11:10.481 --> 01:11:18.990
I'm not, I did giveaways early, and I was, they, I wasn't super happy with what that pulled in, right?

01:11:19.030 --> 01:11:19.992
Because it's not very engaged.

01:11:20.011 --> 01:11:21.573
They're just coming for free stuff.

01:11:22.274 --> 01:11:25.217
You don't want people coming for free stuff.

01:11:25.859 --> 01:11:26.539
I had a thing.

01:11:26.579 --> 01:11:34.551
I think I told this on the pod page meetup, but my band was giving away free kitchen magnets.

01:11:35.653 --> 01:11:41.301
And I got on a weird list, and all of a sudden people from all over the world wanted a free Sugar Daddy's kitchen magnet.

01:11:41.360 --> 01:11:42.261
I was like, wait, hold on.

01:11:42.722 --> 01:11:50.757
So maybe if the free thing is hyper-focused to your group, But even that, at least then they're on your email list.

01:11:50.778 --> 01:11:52.560
I mean, that's how you get somebody on an email list.

01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:53.962
I know my buddy Eric A.

01:11:54.002 --> 01:11:58.750
John used to say, Johnson, he was like, nobody wakes up and goes, I hope I can find a newsletter today.

01:11:58.789 --> 01:12:03.457
But if you give them something, you know, so it's tricky.

01:12:03.658 --> 01:12:04.238
Yes.

01:12:04.458 --> 01:12:05.140
Yeah, it is.

01:12:05.261 --> 01:12:05.541
Yes.

01:12:05.761 --> 01:12:08.586
Just be careful of the giveaway thing.

01:12:09.087 --> 01:12:10.609
Just be careful on that one.

01:12:11.130 --> 01:12:11.310
Yeah.

01:12:11.329 --> 01:12:16.398
Because that person, because you want people that, yes, they want something out of it.

01:12:16.898 --> 01:12:24.628
But they're also kind of hoping to network with other people and kind of give back and, you know, that whole nine yards.

01:12:24.708 --> 01:12:26.570
So I'm trying to think if there are any other.

01:12:26.591 --> 01:12:29.796
I was just thinking, you know, creating fear of missing out.

01:12:29.956 --> 01:12:33.279
But that could also, if you do it too much, that's a delicate balance.

01:12:33.921 --> 01:12:34.903
How about real value?

01:12:35.582 --> 01:12:36.645
How about real value, right?

01:12:36.664 --> 01:12:37.966
That's the key.

01:12:38.027 --> 01:12:38.667
What do people want?

01:12:38.887 --> 01:12:40.609
Speaking of that, I got some real value.

01:12:41.150 --> 01:12:41.792
How's this?

01:12:41.971 --> 01:12:42.832
Oh, look at that.

01:12:43.493 --> 01:12:44.735
That just landed on my desk.

01:12:44.775 --> 01:12:45.537
That's real value.

01:12:45.596 --> 01:12:46.238
Here, I'll show you.

01:12:46.594 --> 01:12:48.216
I don't know what we got.

01:12:48.237 --> 01:12:49.078
What do we, what we got?

01:12:49.298 --> 01:12:49.899
Cherry cream.

01:12:49.939 --> 01:12:51.842
We got cherry jelly on a croissant.

01:12:52.644 --> 01:12:53.385
Thank you, Sarah.

01:12:54.087 --> 01:12:55.087
I can't hear you.

01:12:55.309 --> 01:12:55.869
Cream cheese.

01:12:55.949 --> 01:12:56.250
Okay.

01:12:56.671 --> 01:12:57.212
Yeah, there we go.

01:12:57.351 --> 01:12:58.293
She just brought me a treat.

01:12:58.394 --> 01:12:59.416
So there you go.

01:12:59.435 --> 01:13:00.597
That's real value right there.

01:13:00.957 --> 01:13:02.119
That's a keeper, man.

01:13:02.400 --> 01:13:02.581
That's

01:13:02.661 --> 01:13:02.701
it.

01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:05.445
I'm not going to eat it while we're podcasting.

01:13:05.466 --> 01:13:06.006
So give

01:13:06.046 --> 01:13:06.087
it.

01:13:06.568 --> 01:13:06.868
Yeah.

01:13:07.269 --> 01:13:09.492
Ralph says you could take the televangelist idea.

01:13:09.511 --> 01:13:12.578
I already don't like this idea and start telling your people.

01:13:12.962 --> 01:13:16.448
that you're going to be taken unless they subscribe to your show.

01:13:16.467 --> 01:13:17.630
Wait, am I missing something?

01:13:18.050 --> 01:13:18.690
I'll be taken.

01:13:18.730 --> 01:13:19.212
Like,

01:13:19.372 --> 01:13:20.012
yeah, you know,

01:13:20.274 --> 01:13:22.917
like, yeah, not the fear of missing out.

01:13:23.137 --> 01:13:23.798
Just right here.

01:13:24.060 --> 01:13:24.621
Just fear.

01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:24.720
Yeah.

01:13:25.202 --> 01:13:27.865
You're going to die unless you join my group.

01:13:27.985 --> 01:13:28.207
Yeah.

01:13:28.266 --> 01:13:28.967
That's always fun.

01:13:29.007 --> 01:13:29.849
Yeah.

01:13:29.988 --> 01:13:33.675
So it is moving anybody anywhere.

01:13:33.796 --> 01:13:37.360
Like I, whether it's, Hey, I have 8 million people on Instagram.

01:13:37.400 --> 01:13:39.203
How do I get them to listen to my show?

01:13:39.224 --> 01:13:43.028
I have like, you know, 800 people listening to my show.

01:13:43.087 --> 01:13:44.569
How do I get them to watch my YouTube?

01:13:44.590 --> 01:13:46.730
And getting, they're there where they're comfy.

01:13:47.072 --> 01:13:47.212
So

01:13:47.292 --> 01:13:47.412
it's.

01:13:47.712 --> 01:13:48.273
How'd you get them?

01:13:48.472 --> 01:13:49.873
How'd you get that many to Instagram?

01:13:49.934 --> 01:13:52.657
And then I would say, okay, there's a value proposition.

01:13:52.697 --> 01:13:53.636
Either you dupe them.

01:13:53.676 --> 01:13:59.722
And if you did, they're not really valuable, but let's just say you generally got that many there.

01:13:59.762 --> 01:14:00.182
Right.

01:14:00.363 --> 01:14:03.765
And then they have to start kind of think through, okay, how do I move?

01:14:04.126 --> 01:14:05.347
What are the, why are they there?

01:14:05.408 --> 01:14:06.769
Why are they following me there?

01:14:07.288 --> 01:14:10.511
And then how do I translate that into content on the podcast?

01:14:10.511 --> 01:14:11.672
side where they want to be there.

01:14:12.134 --> 01:14:13.234
Not everybody wants to listen.

01:14:13.255 --> 01:14:14.877
They don't have the time to listen to your podcast.

01:14:14.997 --> 01:14:25.208
Maybe on Instagram, it's just an easy, you know, they got two minutes and they like what you're posting on there and they don't have 15 or 20 or 30 or 50 minutes to commit to a podcast.

01:14:25.349 --> 01:14:28.033
So I think you have to think what's the value proposition.

01:14:28.052 --> 01:14:31.976
And then how do I translate that into the podcast?

01:14:31.997 --> 01:14:32.677
So they get there.

01:14:33.179 --> 01:14:34.900
Not everybody's podcast listeners, guys.

01:14:35.100 --> 01:14:35.320
I mean,

01:14:35.702 --> 01:14:38.625
well, I heard something else and I was like, I need to think about that.

01:14:38.685 --> 01:14:42.815
They said, Instead of telling your audience where to go.

01:14:43.497 --> 01:14:56.140
So it's like, hey, if you want more of this, go to blah, blah, blah slash community and join the group versus, hey, if you want to continue on this conversation, I invite you to join our group.

01:14:56.220 --> 01:14:59.507
And I was like, instead of telling people to go, invite them in.

01:14:59.568 --> 01:15:05.305
And I was like, that is a subtle difference that I was like, Huh, that might, I might have to try that.

01:15:05.805 --> 01:15:10.932
Randy S says, I boosted an ad for my podcast in Facebook and just got my butt chewed out by one person.

01:15:11.594 --> 01:15:13.195
It was a total, yeah.

01:15:13.617 --> 01:15:17.502
I have heard boosting things on Facebook is like lighting your money on fire.

01:15:18.184 --> 01:15:23.551
Not so much Facebook ads because that's targeted, but hey, I put up a boost and they go, you want to boost this?

01:15:23.712 --> 01:15:24.072
Here's$20.

01:15:24.193 --> 01:15:24.974
And they go, great.

01:15:25.314 --> 01:15:27.637
And they just throw gas on it and light it.

01:15:27.757 --> 01:15:30.782
So yeah, Ralph loves to advertise.

01:15:31.283 --> 01:15:33.065
He's just been tons of cash.

01:15:33.537 --> 01:15:33.698
And

01:15:33.818 --> 01:15:34.298
advertising.

01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:35.159
I don't disagree.

01:15:35.180 --> 01:15:36.520
You just have to advertise in the right way.

01:15:37.002 --> 01:15:46.192
I don't think people generally are looking for things to, if it's your podcast, I don't think generally people looking for another thing.

01:15:46.231 --> 01:15:48.154
Like most people aren't like, oh, you know what?

01:15:48.194 --> 01:15:49.855
I got an extra 30 minutes of my life.

01:15:50.456 --> 01:15:52.479
How could I could add a podcast to it?

01:15:52.559 --> 01:15:55.242
I don't think that's sometimes, but I don't think that's the way it works.

01:15:56.042 --> 01:16:00.167
I think in most cases, people are looking to solve a problem.

01:16:00.807 --> 01:16:12.202
And so they go out and they Google, you know, or they search or they do generative AI, whatever they do to get there, and they start saying, I have this problem, and hopefully you have the answer to it.

01:16:12.702 --> 01:16:17.371
And they find you through some search mechanism or however that works, and they go there.

01:16:17.810 --> 01:16:25.966
Very, I think very few actually think like, the exception might be where this podcast is very entertaining.

01:16:26.305 --> 01:16:35.539
If it's a comedy podcast or right now, you know, true crime is real popular again for some reason, or maybe it's always been popular for those reasons.

01:16:35.619 --> 01:16:40.006
But I don't think if it's entertaining, then I think you've got a shot.

01:16:40.807 --> 01:16:41.047
Yeah.

01:16:41.127 --> 01:16:42.990
Jeff says people seem to like my email.

01:16:43.051 --> 01:16:50.301
So I'm thinking about doing another voice memo type of extra podcast that during the week mentioned that content like this is.

01:16:50.402 --> 01:16:58.456
And my email every week, he says, Jay Klaus, who is a great resource for this kind of stuff, has added voice memos and are doing really well on his feed.

01:16:58.537 --> 01:17:01.641
I think his group is like$1,000 a month or something.

01:17:01.681 --> 01:17:02.143
And I went,

01:17:02.863 --> 01:17:03.565
yeah, I'm not

01:17:03.626 --> 01:17:03.826
quite

01:17:03.865 --> 01:17:04.306
there yet.

01:17:04.847 --> 01:17:07.912
Jeff, have you asked, has anybody in your audience asked for that?

01:17:07.953 --> 01:17:11.539
Or, I mean, are you just, are you looking and testing?

01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:14.786
And then have you done a quick survey or have you even...

01:17:15.457 --> 01:17:19.064
polled some of your listeners to say, Would you listen to something like this?

01:17:19.765 --> 01:17:27.676
In that letter, in that newsletter, if they like it, that would be the place to ask and say, Hey, I've been thinking about doing an audio version of this.

01:17:28.679 --> 01:17:29.118
What do you think?

01:17:29.619 --> 01:17:30.881
If you get no feedback?

01:17:33.126 --> 01:17:34.908
I don't know if I'd do it, honestly.

01:17:35.229 --> 01:17:40.997
Like, that content may not translate to audio, right, what you're doing.

01:17:41.798 --> 01:17:43.421
It might, with a twist.

01:17:43.778 --> 01:17:48.283
So I do some serious market research with your current listeners, ask them questions.

01:17:48.662 --> 01:17:56.470
By the way, not once, but about 10 times, I'd say, hey, just a reminder, I'm looking for feedback on this, because they won't see it the first time.

01:17:56.771 --> 01:17:58.113
Move it around in your newsletter.

01:17:58.634 --> 01:18:00.314
Sometimes put it on the top of the fold.

01:18:00.375 --> 01:18:01.516
Sometimes put it in the bottom.

01:18:01.577 --> 01:18:02.578
Sometimes throw it in the middle.

01:18:02.978 --> 01:18:04.840
Make some different graphics so people see it.

01:18:06.561 --> 01:18:09.024
But I would ask, because that may not, it just may not translate.

01:18:09.284 --> 01:18:09.645
And it might.

01:18:10.145 --> 01:18:10.525
You never know.

01:18:10.753 --> 01:18:18.487
Yeah, Jason says, I found my readers and listeners aren't super engaged with responses, but they do support at a decent clip.

01:18:19.028 --> 01:18:21.572
I've sunset advertising my Patreon levels.

01:18:22.011 --> 01:18:24.456
The people who have them are still in.

01:18:24.476 --> 01:18:25.257
I went

01:18:25.278 --> 01:18:25.759
to one level.

01:18:25.819 --> 01:18:27.742
I went to one level.

01:18:28.021 --> 01:18:28.162
Just

01:18:28.283 --> 01:18:28.804
keep it simple.

01:18:29.043 --> 01:18:30.145
Well, I was surprised.

01:18:30.166 --> 01:18:35.134
I have some people left at five, but we have Ronnie left.

01:18:35.362 --> 01:18:36.583
from the YEP podcast.

01:18:36.623 --> 01:18:38.086
He was the new subscriber.

01:18:38.126 --> 01:18:40.309
He came in at 10, but most everybody's at 20.

01:18:40.408 --> 01:18:41.130
I was like, okay.

01:18:41.730 --> 01:18:43.594
But yeah, Jeff says, good idea to ask Jim.

01:18:43.634 --> 01:18:46.358
The email community should let him know.

01:18:46.877 --> 01:18:49.782
Jason says, I've been using Substack for the newsletter deliverable.

01:18:50.262 --> 01:18:52.426
The paid founding people will get the perks.

01:18:52.466 --> 01:18:52.867
There you go.

01:18:53.346 --> 01:18:55.189
Yeah, Substack, I'm using both.

01:18:55.210 --> 01:19:00.698
I have Substack, but my real newsletter is on ConvertKit.

01:19:01.158 --> 01:19:02.581
And I will still call them ConvertKit.

01:19:02.661 --> 01:19:05.997
I know they're a kit, but I still call them ConvertKit and yes, it's still Twitter.

01:19:06.677 --> 01:19:19.957
But I get, although I do get about, it's weird when you used to do nothing for a newsletter and I would get, you know, three to five a week if I was lucky.

01:19:20.018 --> 01:19:24.725
You know, there were weeks when I got one because I just didn't promote it much and this and that.

01:19:24.765 --> 01:19:32.076
So I really went to, you know, I'm annoying people with pop-ups and I'm talking about it on my show and then, oh, well now I'm getting three to five a day.

01:19:32.456 --> 01:19:33.457
Now that's not huge.

01:19:33.921 --> 01:19:37.506
But it's, you know, hundreds of percentage more than I used to get.

01:19:37.546 --> 01:19:42.331
And that five will eventually turn to seven and seven will turn to 10 and things like that.

01:19:42.952 --> 01:19:43.171
Yeah.

01:19:43.192 --> 01:19:48.438
Jason says, Substack allows so much more robust embedded media compared to Patreon.

01:19:49.298 --> 01:19:59.329
Yeah, that's, I know if you, I haven't done it in a while, but if you posted a link to, I have no idea why the woman in the tube is talking to me.

01:20:00.011 --> 01:20:01.051
I did not say anything.

01:20:01.072 --> 01:20:02.394
Yeah.

01:20:02.413 --> 01:20:02.493
Yeah.

01:20:04.962 --> 01:20:07.305
She's talking, which more robust?

01:20:07.505 --> 01:20:08.907
She's asking me like a quiz.

01:20:09.688 --> 01:20:11.350
Yeah, let's hit the stop button, shall we?

01:20:11.930 --> 01:20:21.543
But on Spotify, if you put a link to Spotify in, at least it used to be, in Substack, it would put the player.

01:20:21.564 --> 01:20:23.367
I was like, well, that's kind of cool.

01:20:23.407 --> 01:20:24.889
I don't know how that works via email.

01:20:25.750 --> 01:20:29.534
Yeah, and then Jeff says, Kit's recommendation engine has been huge.

01:20:29.916 --> 01:20:30.976
Yeah, and that's what I started.

01:20:31.037 --> 01:20:31.457
In fact...

01:20:31.938 --> 01:20:33.359
Colin Gray, Dr.

01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:37.104
Colin Gray from the podcast host, he mentioned me in his newsletter.

01:20:37.123 --> 01:20:39.546
And so I was like, oh, thanks for that.

01:20:39.565 --> 01:20:41.007
And he's, well, you know, if you want to.

01:20:41.488 --> 01:20:48.136
And I was like, yeah, so I, there's something you do that, you know, recommends his stuff to my audience.

01:20:48.216 --> 01:20:49.497
So yeah, there you go.

01:20:49.756 --> 01:20:51.418
And Jason says he's going to send me a newsletter.

01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:52.579
All right, I'll check it out.

01:20:53.041 --> 01:20:57.765
Of course, Matt Talk Online, because he is, see, now we get to go to this screen.

01:20:58.367 --> 01:21:01.050
He's one of those that there is matttalkonline.com.

01:21:01.442 --> 01:21:04.591
One of our awesome supporters, and we thank you for that, Jason.

01:21:05.193 --> 01:21:06.657
And I cannot find the ending music.

01:21:06.676 --> 01:21:08.743
There it is, because it is 11 minutes.

01:21:08.884 --> 01:21:10.569
Is it me, or that went pretty quick today?

01:21:11.170 --> 01:21:11.752
Oh, yeah.

01:21:11.771 --> 01:21:12.734
Oh, it's always a good time.

01:21:13.396 --> 01:21:13.637
Yeah, for

01:21:13.677 --> 01:21:13.757
sure.

01:21:13.890 --> 01:21:32.987
so what is coming up on home gadget geeks yeah i'm on vacation for the next two weeks which is kind of nice i took this week off from work i'll go back to work i thought i'd just take two weeks off you know you can as a podcaster you can do that so let me encourage you if it's been a while since you've had a break take one they feel good and you can always get back to it when you're done

01:21:33.346 --> 01:21:35.207
did you announce it at all or just i did

01:21:35.729 --> 01:21:45.057
okay hey friends i'm taking the next two weeks off i still had folks show up thursday night and they're like hey and i'm like hey i told you guys i'd be up not everybody listens to the live shows, so you never know.

01:21:45.939 --> 01:21:50.164
And not everybody listens to every single word you ever do, but boy, it felt good to take a week off.

01:21:50.185 --> 01:21:51.827
I got one more in the can.

01:21:52.408 --> 01:21:53.670
Not doing episodes.

01:21:53.729 --> 01:21:55.432
I'm not publishing things I shouldn't do.

01:21:55.453 --> 01:21:57.314
It just takes some time off.

01:21:57.636 --> 01:21:58.095
It's good for

01:21:58.396 --> 01:21:58.497
you.

01:21:58.917 --> 01:22:01.280
I'm working on a farmer's tan there, aren't you?

01:22:01.841 --> 01:22:02.402
Yeah, for sure.

01:22:02.643 --> 01:22:03.663
Yeah, I was like, holy cow.

01:22:04.005 --> 01:22:06.387
Yeah, on the School of Podcasting, I'm going to pull the trigger.

01:22:06.427 --> 01:22:15.037
I threatened this about a week ago, and I'm going to go slightly off topic, but not really, and talk about How to podcast and stay married.

01:22:15.578 --> 01:22:16.600
I threw that idea out.

01:22:16.621 --> 01:22:17.623
I asked a bunch of people.

01:22:17.783 --> 01:22:20.130
I'm like, would you want to listen to an episode about this?

01:22:20.650 --> 01:22:21.372
And they're all like, yeah.

01:22:21.632 --> 01:22:30.394
And I joke, but it's kind of true because you either want to talk to somebody who's been married for 52 years or you want to talk to a guy that's got two divorces under his belt.

01:22:30.755 --> 01:22:31.676
Both have learned...

01:22:32.546 --> 01:22:34.207
Lessons in one way or another.

01:22:34.247 --> 01:22:36.248
So that is coming up on that.

01:22:36.269 --> 01:22:39.091
It's either that or my buddy Tracy.

01:22:39.171 --> 01:22:39.811
I interviewed her.

01:22:39.872 --> 01:22:41.993
I'm interviewing David Hooper today.

01:22:42.534 --> 01:22:43.695
So it might be David Hooper.

01:22:43.756 --> 01:22:52.082
You'll have to tune in and find out what did Dave pick between Saturday and Monday because I assemble and publish tomorrow.

01:22:52.203 --> 01:22:53.804
So we'll find out then.

01:22:53.944 --> 01:22:57.328
But no show next week, by the way, for Ask the Podcast Coach.

01:22:57.507 --> 01:23:02.131
I will be in Chicago talking at the Higher Ed Podcast Conference.

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So Enjoy your Saturday off, and we'll see you in two weeks.