Dec. 19, 2025

The Black Palace and The San Juanic Explosion

The Black Palace and The San Juanic Explosion

Beforeit housed the General National Archine, Lecumberri was a prison. Due to it's dark past, the Black Palace is now said to be haunted with the ghost of Don Jacinto and more. Cristina shares the history of this haunted location in CDMX and Carmen shares the case of the San Juanic Explosion.

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Hi, this is Christina and a Carman and it's Dooky

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Dookie season and this is the Spooky Tales, Yes, Dooky

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Dookie season version, as in like we're not doing anything different,

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We're actually back to normal right now, where we have

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a true crime case, well instead of it's your crime case,

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it's like a disaster case. Okay, and a hunted prison

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and it's a State of Mexico episode but also Dookie

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Dookie season. Yeah. Yeah, if you're watching the video, which

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will actually be on YouTube for once, we're matching. Yeah,

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but before we get into our topics, we do have

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a listener's story and if you have a story that

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we call it, that infos in the show notes. We

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have two that I keep forgetting to listen to. And yeah,

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there's a lot of ways to get us the stories.

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We love reading them, so yes, send them are away, Yes,

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and okay, this listening story. It was sent from Instagram.

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I forgot to ask if they wanted to have their

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name shared or not, so we're going to keep them,

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keep them anon. Okay. My parents are from a town

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called Chappala, which is one of the many towns that

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border Mexico's biggest lake, Ilagod Chappala in the state of Halisko.

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This is important because it is said that the lake

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is known for having many UFO sidings submerging and emerging

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from the lake. In short, my mom and two other

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friends of hers were walking back home from a party

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along the road that surrounds the lake. The lake is

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surrounded by woods, hills, and small mountains, so it makes

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the night especially dark and eerie. This path was poorly lit.

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In fact, I think to this day it's still not

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very well lit. AnyWho. My mom saw a bright orbit

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come out of the lake and headed straight for them.

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Her two friends were unaware of what was happening, but

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this giant orb that was incredibly bright began to follow

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from behind. My mom has this thing where she gets

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paralyzed and can't talk whenever something scary is happening, so

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she stayed silent while it followed. After what seemed like

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a long time. My mom finally had the courage to

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say something to her friends, but by the time they

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turned around, the orbit was gone. How bizarre. Okay. Also,

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it could have been a witch, right right? What are

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we thinking? Orb witch? I think it was a witch.

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the lake. They like to swim. Oh okay, they don't

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melt with water. No, okay, Well, thank you for your story.

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That was strange. Indeed, and instead of Carmen reading the

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panormal story, I'm going to do it witching it up. Yeah,

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because because it's tuk Tuki season. No, that's not why.

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Just because so we briefly talked about this place back

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in episode one hundred and thirty six, but we didn't

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do it justice back then. There is so much to

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this place that we didn't even address. There's more to share, yes,

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and so we're going to revisit it today. And that

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is That place is El Palacio de le Umberi, also

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known as El Palacio Negro, the Black Palace. It's located

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in Mexico City and today it houses the General National Archive,

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and so you can find like ayala, important documents, important things.

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They're all the important things. But before it was a

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general National Archive, from nineteen hundred to nineteen seventy six

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it was a penitentiary and it was decommissioned that year

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and turned over to the National Archive in nineteen eighty.

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And if you go today, it looked beautiful, but of

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course that was not always the case. It was built

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during the Portfitriato Portfidrat himself wanted it made, and that's

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tell you that this place was always going to be

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terrible because he specifically wanted to put his political opponents

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in there. Yikes. Also, it's a prison, right, it's a

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prison in the ninth early nineteen hundred. It's like they're

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bad today, Yeah, imagine back then. And so construction began

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May ninth, eighteen eighty five, and it officially opened on

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September twenty ninth, nineteen hundred. And the name Black Palace

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comes from before it was even open to prisoners, there

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was a sewage flood and it caused the walls of

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the building to darken, and that's why it's called black Palace.

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Doesn't that sound discussing? Yeah, like just setting foot in

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there is going to make you sick. Yeah, And soon

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after it began to house prisoners, earned their reputation for

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the prison that would make you go crazy, because well,

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the prison was designed by engineer Miguel Quintana, engineers plural

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Miguel Kana, Antonio Torres to Rica, and Antonio m emme Anta,

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and they designed it to be a panoptic prison. Do

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you know about this panoptic style? Yes, I do, And

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actually I've been hearing a lot recently, like different videos

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and whatever about the panopticon in like how nowadays people

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are like saying, like social media is like the panopticon

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because people are censorying and uh, surveilling themselves. It's fascinating her.

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I have seen themes around them videos like that. Yeah too.

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And for those that don't know, the panopticon originated from

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English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the eighteenth century.

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And while prison is already a place of oppression, this

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type of prison the worst. This type of prison is

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the ultimate system of control and surveillance. What does this like,

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you might be wondering. So this places a single prison

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officer in the middle, sort of like a watched the tower,

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and their prison itself is round. So this circular design

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is meant means that the prisoners are being watched at

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all times. The opening of the cell faces that watch

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tower in that round design. The inmates had no idea

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when or when they weren't being watched, because yeah, it's

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physically impossible for the guard to watch them all at once.

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But the point is to make them paranoid and make

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them think they're being watched, so then they self regulate.

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They can't they what is the thing you said earlier,

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surveiled themselves and sort of them Yes, yes, yes, surveil

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themselves and side note, but I watched a fascinating TikTok

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by doctor Shawna who was using this theory to basically say,

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elf on the shelf serves as a penectagon for toddlers.

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That's what I watched recently where I was talking about

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one of the videos I watched recently. Anyway, back to

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the prison, So it was built to hold nine hundred

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and ninety six people and this included it was like

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eight hundred men and then the rest were women and children,

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so like if my mom was arrested, their kid was

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arrested with them in that detained also, Yeah, and it

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had eight hundred four cells, but it was also meant

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to be a place of rehabilitation, so there was workshops

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and nursery, cooking classes, baking, life skills, stuff like that.

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But the bad thing is that it was all credited,

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and so if inmates took partook in these like rehabilitation

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style classes, they had to pay, and if they had

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no money to pay, then they had to serve more

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time of course. Yeah. Yeah. Also a lot of the

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men were subjected to more mistreatment than the women, and

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the women had more access to this type of stuff,

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So that makes sense to me too. Yeah, yeah, it's

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not it wasn't surprising to read that. But of course

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the prison was quickly overcrowded and the number of inmates

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rose to three eight hundred. There was a whole house

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one hundred and eighty or nine hundred and ninety something, dawn,

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nine hundred and eightty something, one hundred and ninety six, yes,

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thank you. And at first though, recrowding was slow and

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like there was three inmates per cell, but then it

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was like quickly twenty and maids per sell, all sharing

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one toilet and like two uts. So and when places

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become a recrowded, they become more dangerous, illnesses spread more.

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Prison authorities were not able to keep up with the maintenance,

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and it became more and more insanitary. And then on

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top of that, there was a food shortage and so

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many prisoners were starving. Colombian poet Alvardo Mutis wrote a

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book called The Diary of l. Kumberi, where he describes

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his time in prison in nineteen fifty eight. That's how

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I was there, and he said it was a very

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dangerous place, and mats were regularly beaten by the guards,

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and there was a lot of corruption. He was there

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in activity eight. That applies to the entirety of the prison.

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When inmates misbehaved, they were sent to punishment cells, which

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really were like solitary confinement, which has been proven time

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and time again to be like a human rights violation. Yeah,

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I repeat that. I think we've said it in other episodes.

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Maybe I don't remember. Anyway, these cells were cold, pitch dark,

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and had no toilets down. Also, one hundred and sixty

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of the student protesters of nineteen sixty eight, which some

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of you might recognize as a clate Lolco massacre. If not,

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that's something in hundred in Mexico in nineteen sixty eight.

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It was CIA backed and it is a huge topic

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for you, so it has a known our History podcast.

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But one hundred and sixty of the students were sent

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to Le Coumber, where they were abused mentally, physically and sexually.

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They were tortured, and some of them were never seen

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again after. Oh wow, I didn't know that inmates were

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sent to specific parts of the prison depending on their crime.

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Corridor J or ruata in Espanol it was designated for

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homosexuals and allegedly where And I don't know how true

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this is, but this is what a lot of the

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articles I already said, that's where the J slur in

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Spanish originated, really, because this corridor J was meant for

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all the gaze. Yeah, oh wow, I wonder how true

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that is. I read it in multiple articles about the prison,

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but I didn't go and look at the history of

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the word. So I should have because I was gonna say,

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I'm like, that's kind of messed up. And they put

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them there, you know, knowing the slur. But then I'm like, wait,

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what came first? That's wild, right, like the chicken or

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the egg. Yeah, and some of The more famous inmates

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included Juan Gabriel himself. Oh that's right, I remember seeing

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that in the Netflix segmentary. Yeah, h he was there.

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Leon Trotsky's murder helmet Ramon Merca del Rio way Spanish, Oh, Spanish,

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a Spanish spy for the Soviet Union killed him into

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that Mexico. Oh I was gonna say, wait, he was

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by a Mexican, no, by Spanish in Mexico City, Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

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And then he was placed in Legumberi also a Banjoviyeah.

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Oh yeah, So I mean you're going to get into it.

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But then, is this prison so operating? No, I said

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in the beginning, but what the houses the National arch

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Oh that's right, you did say that. Well why did

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it stop operating? Did you say that too, because I didn't. Yeah,

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in nineteen seventy six, okay, nineteen thirty six. Yeah, and

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then it was like they had to remodel it, reconstructed

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to make it not the prison anymore and be able

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to house the all these documents. Oh, okakay maybe maybe yeah.

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So yeah, it's stopped being a prison in nineteen seventy six.

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I think at some point I said from nineteen hundred

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to nineteen seventy six as well. Anyway, during the seventy

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six years that was an accented goship man. Sometimes I

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just gotta let you talk. Yeah, sometimes not all the time.

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During the seventy six years it served as a prison,

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only two people ever escaped successfully and alive. One of

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them the first Benchovilla himself slay. Yeah. Apparently he had

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someone bring him a hat and dark glasses, and he

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broke the bars of his cell and pretended to be

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a doctor, and in his doctor disguise he simply walked

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out the front door well in full transparency. Some sources

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say that he actually escaped from La Cartel Laco and

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not Lagumberri, and others said Lagumberre. So it's hard to

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know which one. And I tried to search for like

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what it's a definitive and like just as many said,

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was either one, so because he spent a time at both.

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And the only other person to have ever escaped successfully

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was an American, a green call a gringo h His

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name was Dwight Worker Worker. He was convicted of attempting

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to smuggle cocaine. I forgot I read somewhere else it

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was a ton of cocaine. Damn. I forgot to write

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it down, unfortunately, but yeah, a lot, a lot, And

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he was given a seven year sentence, and on December seventeenth,

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nineteen seventy five, just two years until a seven year sentence,

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he escaped by dressing up as a woman and just

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walking out. Interesting, Yeah, there's a whole book, but I

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did not have time to find the book and read

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it to see his full escape. And also it's not

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an episode about the escape, right, so I didn't look

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further into it. But that's like the basic version of it.

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He dressed as a woman and walked out. The third

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escape doesn't really count because he was recaptured. But they

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say that this third escape brought on the closure of

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the prison because the escape was embarrassing for the government,

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and then President Luis Echeveria ordered the prison to be

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closed after the escape. You've embarrassed me enough yet, Yeah,

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He's like, this place it needs to go, Yeah, gots

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to go. And so that escape. This escape happened in

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seventy six and it was Alberto Si Siria Falcon, a

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Cuban drug trafficker. He was arrested on the twenty third

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of June of nineteen seventy five and sent to Le Comberi,

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and ten months into his imprisonment he escaped. It turns

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out that he and his people had paid off a

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ton of people on the outside to make this happen. First,

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they paid off the owner of this set of buildings

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that was like adjacent to the prison. Okay. Then his

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people on the outside began to work on a tunnel

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from this building in the prison. So they bought the

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building and then they began to break the wall and

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make this tunnel that connected to the prison. At the

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same time, inside the prison, Alberto had paid off the

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guards to basically let him have this entire corridor to

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himself and not be bothered. Wow. And so he and

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three people who were arrested with him like part of

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his little operation yeah cartel. Oh my god, I was like,

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what's it called the people that like do this kind

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of stuff. Members of his cartel were arrest Three members

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of his cartail were arrested with him, and so he

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and these three people they began to work on this

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tunnel from his cell, unbothered at a leisurely base stay.

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At all the time, nobody was checking on them because

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of the corruption. And so by the time the tunnel

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was discovered on April twenty sixth, nineteen seventy six, he

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and his accomplices were gone and they were like, oh

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my god, I can't believe this. They worked on this

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tunnel for ten months and nobody fucking checked because ten

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months because he was paying people off. Oh wow. Oh.

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They eventually he was found, But point is that was

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very embarrassing for the government and they were like, we

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have to close this embarrassing ass prison. It's clear that

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it's corrupt and it's not working, and so like, inmates

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were sent to other prisons. And after close it took

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a few years to construct and renovate the former prison

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into the building that would house the National Archives. During

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that process, a lot of dead bodies were found. So

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that just adds to the creepiness of it all. And

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I went to the ghost stories speaking of the creepiness.

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The most well known ghost a Legumberri is Jacinto, and

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I believe this is the only story that we shared,

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uh in that first episode where we talked about Legumberri

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and so Don'tjacinto was also known as Elvenado. Did you

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read a head or no, no, okay, try and guess

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why they called them elevenado. Oh I didn't read a

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head now I can't. Yeah, they called him this, but

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los cuernosuesposa and for our Spanish challenge friends, it doesn't

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make sense in English, and I'm sorry ahead of time.

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But when a partner she told you, one will tell

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you that guerno, they put the horns on you. And

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so that's what it called. No, it doesn't, and that's

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why he was called the lebnado or the deer because

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of his cheating wife. That's some Mexican and so apparently

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his wife cheated on him and then accused him of something.

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She was like tired of him, accused him of something.

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We don't know what that something is, something that sent

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him to Lecumbert, though, But she did promise that she

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would visit every Saturday. She didn't, she didn't do it,

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and he didn't see her again. And then years into

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a sentence, he ended up dying inside of Lecumbert. And

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then fast forward to some years after that, when the

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former prison was already the home of the National Archives.

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Workers began to notice strange things, especially the cleaning personnel

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who was there after eight pm. And one night, after

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a PM, one of these maintenance workers was in the

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former prison corridors which were now called galleries, and as

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he was there sweeping, he came across a man in

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a strange outfit. It was washed yeah, it was like

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a washed out jumpsuit, more gray than anything. And this

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man looked sad, and the worker was surprised to see him.

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Of course he was sad, and he was like, how

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did you get in here? How'd you get inside? You're

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not supposed to be in here, and the man didn't answer.

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The worker asked again, like why are you here? The

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sad man only said, Amalia hasn't visited. Yeah. The worker

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was like, I don't know who Amalia is, but I

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need to know why you're in here because this is

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close to the public now. And the man only replied

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she was supposed to come see me. And the worker

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was like, oh my god. And he rolled his eyes

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and he turned around put his broom down. He's like,

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I gotta go get security. This guy's not leaving. And

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he turned back around one more time to maybe try

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and be like, how did you get in here? He

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turned around, the sad man was gone, oh, wow, it

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was Jacinto. Yes, And over the years there was similar

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stories where people would see Don Jacinto looking for Amalia,

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his wife. I feel like, if anything, his gals should

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have been haunting her. So that's kind of sad. Yeah, yeah,

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not everyone else, go find her and not let her

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live in peace. Yeah. I did haunt her grandchildren and

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if she had kids, like you know, just keep continuing

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to haunt that family. But I mean, we don't know

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what he did. Maybe he deserves this. I don't know.

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I don't know, I don't we don't know. But even

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before it became the National Archive, people saw him there too,

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because the prison warden he was there late one night

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and before leaving, he's like, well, let me go to

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go a round of the corridors. And as he walked,

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he heard someone breathing behind him. Just oh god. Yeah.

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He turned around because nobody should be out of their cells,

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and that's when he saw a sad man sitting down

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on a chair. And so the warning walked up to

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the sad man and he's like, what are you doing

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outside of a cell? In his head, he's like, why

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are you here? I don't even know who you are? Like,

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I know, most of the people in this corridor and

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I don't know you, sad man, and the man only

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repeated Amalia didn't show up again. Oh you know what,

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it doesn't matter what he did. This is sad. It

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is the warning turned around for a sec to look

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for a guard, to be like, let's get the sad

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man back in his cell. And when he turned back around,

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the sad man was gone. Don Jacinto was gone. Yeah,

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So he quickly walked back to his office, gather his

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things and left. The Next day he decided to look

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into the strange occurrence and that's when he learned about

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a man named Jacinto who had a wife named Amalia,

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who had him in prison for something that she accused

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him of and then never visited him in prison. What

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if he did that thing he accused her of and

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that's why she didn't visit it as in prison. Listen,

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we don't know. All we know is that he's still

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looking for her. Wow. But yeah, that's the story of

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Don Jacinto, who many people have seen asking for Amalia.

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Another goes hunting le Umberi is that of Raphael Perees Epnandez,

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and he was sent to Le Comberi after having basically

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imprisoned his own family for eighteen years. Their house is

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known as La Casa de los Marcetones. And to keep

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this episode brief, we're not going to talk about the case.

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That would have to be its own episode one day

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and it will only to the topic list. But he

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was found guilty of keeping his family locked up for

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eighteen years and never letting them see outside. All his

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children testified against him, but he maintained that he was innocent,

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and during trial, he kept telling his fifteen year old son,

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no miantas libre recito, mestas per Okay, this says Isaber's

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kees falso and now in English, don't lie, libre resito.

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You're hurting me with the things you're saying, and you

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know it's false. The son's name was Libre Benaminon. They

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called them liberracito. H Did he name him this on purpose?

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Because he knew it was going to keep Okay prisoned.

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So I didn't write down. I should have wrote down

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all the kids have weird names. Well, no, sorry, I

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don't want to. I don't want to Johnique unique. Yeah,

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like you know what, Okay. One of them is Liberta

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Pensamiento and the other one is just libre and then

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there was like a hold on, I can't find it

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really quick, I have all the links here, let's see. No, okay,

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it's fine, it doesn't matter to learn once we get

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to that topic. Yeah, we will cover it as it's

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on episode plenty of the children are had like very

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similar like but no they weren't. And the other brother

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was also libre and he was Liberta pen samiento. Weird, yeah,

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very odd. Anyway, he maintained that he didn't do it,

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and he he was found guilty. He was sent to

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le Gumber where he insisted he didn't do it, and

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he ended up dying by suicide. Over all of this

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because he was like, no, it wasn't me, I'm innocent,

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and yeah, he died by suicide. And so now those

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who enter the area where his cell was can hear

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someone whispering no mina bracitomantas, don't lie, libracito, don't lie.

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And in that same corridor some people have seen a

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man dressed in all black appear and then disappear into

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the walls. That is scary. That one is creepy. I

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would hate to hear a whisper. Yeah, I'd rather hear

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like little giggling. I hear nothing, okay, no, no, I

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would just say if I had to pick, I wouldn't

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want it to be a whisper. And there's another story.

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This one is he's not a ghost, but these stories

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came from him and he passed them onto his family.

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He is known as a labello. He was a doctor

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from Sina de Mexico and when he was done with

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his doctor studies in nineteen thirty, he didn't want to

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leave like the state of Mexico for work. He wanted

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to stay close to his family. But there was a

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lot of job opportunities for doctors afar. But he's like,

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I'm not trying to leave. That's when a friend of

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his told them about Legumberi prison looking for a doctor,

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and he wasn't thrilled about the idea. But this would

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keep him nearby, and so he would do a full

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twenty four hour shift, then be off twenty four hours

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they do another full twenty four hour shift. It was

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a rough schedule and the most he saw at work

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was inmates with stomach illnesses. The century because it was

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a very unsanitary place. There was only one toy lit perps.

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Oh god, yeah, twenty cell mats and the few foods

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available to the inmates were awesome, not sanitary, So not right,

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not right. If you're going to imprison people, you need

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to feed them properly, you know. But they didn't know

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this in ninety three. They should know this at all times.

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But yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they sort of know this now. No.

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I was going to say, oh, no, they did on purpose,

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but you know, yeah yeah. So this like illness just

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spread and spread very easily in this environment. And aside

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from all the sick inmates, he also treated a lot

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of beaten inmates or inmates that seem to have been tortured.

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Another thing he's not along was inmates that seemed to

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be in shock. They weren't sick, they just their eyes

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were wide, they were strong. Yeah yeah. And once they

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these inmates finally talked, they all had a similar story,

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something like sleep paralysis, only they felt like something like

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cold had climbed on top of them at my e E.

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So that's poor fine, yeah, And he began to notice

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that some of the cellmates of those who had experienced

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the strange about as sleep paralysis, those cell mates would

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go missing and there was never an explanation of it.

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The most traumatized prisoners seemed to be those who had

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been sent to solitary confinement, of course, even if they

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hadn't seen anything. That's literal torture, yes, of course. And

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they came to him in complete shock, eyes so wide open,

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heartrates out of control. When some hours had passed, these

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inmates all told the similar tale of a devil in

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these solitary cells. Oh wow, a devil that attacked them.

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Many of the inmates went and the doctor believed them.

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He was like, there has to be something else in

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those punishment cells, like this is all too strange. And

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one story that this doctor remembers the most was that

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of a young man. This young man's crime was owing

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the wrong person money and so then he was sent

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00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.880
to le Kumberi. And this young man's first night in jail,

455
00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:22.799
his cellmate began to scream and scream in the middle

456
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:24.720
of the night. So this young man got up to

457
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.480
look at his cellmate, and he saw his cellmate shaking

458
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.839
and yelling, reaching for his face like if something was

459
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.000
on his face. And it was pretty dark, and this

460
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.920
young man couldn't really see anything, but it did look

461
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.079
like a darker shadow on his cellmate's face, and so

462
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:46.240
he decided to reach over to his cellmate to try

463
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:49.319
and shake the cell mate out of this. The moment

464
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:52.519
the young man touched the cellmate, he felt something so

465
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.920
cold to wrap around his own body. It was the

466
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:59.279
coldest he ever felt. Then he felt like he had

467
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:02.279
fallen into the floor, and he didn't know what else

468
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:04.799
happened after that. And by that point, the summer it

469
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.240
was okay, and he watched as the young man was

470
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.960
levitated and then dropped. So when the young man felt

471
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.440
that he had fallen on the floor, he was actually

472
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.559
mid air. Oh. And so then the cell mate, now

473
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:18.880
that he was okay, he was yelling for the guards now.

474
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:21.400
And so by now it was morning and the young

475
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.039
man was taken to the doctor, and the doctor tried

476
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.240
to figure out what had happened. He tried to question

477
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.319
the young man, but the young man could only repeat,

478
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:31.920
it was so cold, he grabbed me, and that's like

479
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.279
all he was saying. And so the doctor was able

480
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.039
to piece together what happened when he talked to the cellmate,

481
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.440
but the young man was never the same again. Yankes,

482
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.200
I mean, how could you be Yeah? And like nobody

483
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.519
ever figured out what that was. And there's another seale

484
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.680
I said that weird. And there's another cell called La

485
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:54.640
the las cuicias or I guess the cuddle cell in English.

486
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:58.519
But it's not cute. It's not cute sound, it doesn't

487
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:02.880
sound like it's going to be cute. Anyone place here

488
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:05.400
felt like something was touching them. But these aren't the

489
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:09.160
normal type of like Carrisias cuddles between like a parent

490
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:13.440
and child. No, it was sinister. When the inmate woke

491
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.960
up ready to throw hands with whatever was touching them.

492
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:22.400
No one was there. Yikes. Yes, And those who now

493
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:27.680
visit El, whether it's to admire its beauty or look

494
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:31.079
through the general archives, many have felt that whenever they

495
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.200
set foot in there, it feels like someone is watching you,

496
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.759
like someone's always there. Even if you're by yourself, it's

497
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:41.000
like someone is looking at you like this. Visitors and

498
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:46.960
employees have reported footsteps, tapping, sounds, screams, and whiling in

499
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.799
the middle of the night. Yea, So can you tour

500
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.079
this place like a haunted ghost tour or no? I

501
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.640
don't know that there's haunted tours, but you can go. Oh,

502
00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.880
it's a place to visit to see and yeah, that

503
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.319
was a little more about the Black Palace of Sudan,

504
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:09.279
the Mexico the former le prison. Interesting, okay, and we'll

505
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:13.119
take a little outbreak and then get into the I

506
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:15.240
guess it's not a true crime case today, it's a disaster.

507
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:30.599
So disaster case, yes, and we're back. Okay. So we

508
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:36.319
are going to be talking about the Pemex San Juanique

509
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:40.359
explosion the day the sky lit on fire. That sounds bad.

510
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:44.319
You've not heard of this and no, okay, so I

511
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.079
think we have talked about Bemex before or no, wait,

512
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.240
I'm getting confused from when you were on I was

513
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:57.519
on an episode with PNW Hunts and Homicides and they

514
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:01.319
did an episode on this explosion Guadacada, the series of

515
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.240
explosions in guad Lacara because Guada Kara is a sister

516
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:10.240
city to Portland, Oregon. And so that did involve Pemex. Yeah. So,

517
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.680
as many might know, Petroleos Mexicanos, commonly known as Pemex,

518
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:17.799
is a state owned oil and gas company created by

519
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.839
former Mexican President Nasodas Gardenaz created the company in nineteen

520
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.799
thirty eight to remove foreign control over Mexico's and natural resources,

521
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.440
which is a good thing. Yeah, yeah, it is. Before

522
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:34.359
the creation of Beemex, foreign companies dominated and controlled a

523
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.480
majority of Mexicos. Oil workers were unfairly treated and the

524
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.759
country rarely saw any of the benefits or profits. And

525
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.400
that changed on March eighteenth, nineteen thirty eight, when President

526
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.680
Gardanaz signed a decree allowing Mexican authorities to seize assets

527
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:53.440
from foreign oil companies and Pemex became a great symbol

528
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.319
of Mexican nationalism and was seen as a move towards

529
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:01.079
a better future. Yeah. Unfortunately though, in nineteen eighty four,

530
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:07.119
a Bemex site in San Juanico, a town north of Cidade, Mexico,

531
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.680
became ground zero for a series of explosions that would

532
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.599
claim the lives of hundreds of Mexicans. Oh wow. So,

533
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:20.480
while the forty thousand residents of San Juanico slept, beemec's

534
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.759
employees working the overnight shift noticed a decrease in pressure

535
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:29.119
at the site around five thirty am. Employees attempted to

536
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.559
fix the issue, but failed to realize that a pipe

537
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:35.839
had raptured. Oh no. As the clock ticked away, liquefied

538
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.079
petroleum gas began to be released from the site, which

539
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.319
led to a cloud built up. The vapor cloud rapidly

540
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:45.640
grew in size and a strong odor and a loud

541
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:50.000
whistle then emanated from the site, and only ten minutes later,

542
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:54.480
at five forty am, the cloud reached the flare and ignited,

543
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.680
causing a vapor cloud explosion that set ten nearby homes

544
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:04.440
on fire. Wow in only ten minutes, yeah wild. The

545
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:08.000
gas fueled flames quickly spread to the tanks and around

546
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:11.279
five forty five am, the first tank exploded. So this

547
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:15.839
all happened really fast, too fast, and this caused a

548
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.599
major boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion, also known as a bleff.

549
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.960
This is when the pressurized liquid inside a vessel like

550
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.359
a propane tank, reaches temperatures higher than that liquid boiling point,

551
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.960
and if the vessel can no longer contain the pressure

552
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:36.359
inside the sealed tank due to the high temperatures, it

553
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:41.440
will mechanically fell, causing the expulsion. So that's how the

554
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.720
explosion happens. Thank you, thank you, scieny. I don't know

555
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:48.799
if that's chemistry. I don't know, some type of science. Look,

556
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.079
we're dumpitches, okay, yeah, we said that before we have.

557
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:57.359
The explosion launched giant fireballs into the town that were

558
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:01.240
up to four hundred meters wide and lit up the sky. Wow, Naja,

559
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:05.000
you're barely getting up starting your day and that's what

560
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.559
you wait, You fucking see balls of fire in the

561
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.680
fucking sky. No, I would think the world was ending.

562
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:15.119
That's crazy. Yeah. Same. A PanAm pilot preparing to land

563
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:18.960
at the nearby airport also felt seismic shakes and reported

564
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:23.119
seen an overwhelm an overwhelmingly bright light that resembled a

565
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:27.720
mushroom cloud. Oh my god, like like the tongue. Mom. Yeah,

566
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.279
And he quickly called air traffic control to warn them

567
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.039
that a nuclear bomb had gone off, unaware that it

568
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:39.000
was a blood explosion. Wow, and within minutes, cars, homes,

569
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:43.920
and buildings were in golden flames. Within minim Yeah, oh

570
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:48.240
my god. In the documentary The Explosion of San Juan,

571
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:53.599
I depic voices of the survivors. Forty years after the explosion,

572
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.240
Jo said, I made us. Fernandez and his family recounted

573
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:01.200
how they survived the inferno. Joset told filmmakers, I was

574
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.160
sleeping at that hour. We were all asleep in my

575
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.599
house at the moment the explosion happened, I quickly woke

576
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:11.000
up and opened my bedroom curtain and looked towards the sky.

577
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:13.920
I saw a big mushroom cloud forming, like the ones

578
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.000
caused by nuclear bombs. I also felt an overwhelming and

579
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.719
unbearable heat coming from the windows. Oh my god. And Patricia,

580
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:26.719
Josa's sister told the filmmakers that she remembers thinking she

581
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.760
was going to die. And she said, I heard the

582
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.280
first explosion. It was very strong, and I woke up.

583
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:33.920
The first thing we looked at were the windows. They

584
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.840
were consumed by a bright light that felt like was

585
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.559
right outside our home. My mother then called for us

586
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:41.840
and said, come here, my kids, hug me. We're going

587
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:46.199
to die. I would think the same, No, same, and

588
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.320
like what are you gonna do? Run or like if

589
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.159
you know there's no way out of this, like all

590
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:55.480
hold each other. Oh that's so sad. Yeah, and Josean,

591
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.800
Patricia's family decided to evacuate immediately instead of waiting what

592
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:05.800
happened next, and that decision saved their lives, so I said.

593
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.960
As I continued to walk, I came across other evacuees.

594
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.320
They told me about other people they had seen that

595
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:17.119
were naked and covered in burns. Another explosion went off

596
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.400
and lit up the entire sky. It's like we were

597
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.079
living in a war zone. There were burn victims screaming

598
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.679
and running everywhere. It was very traumatic. Pattis yeah, added

599
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.440
on to that, Yeah, it sounds that sounds horrible. Another

600
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.599
survivor that was interviewed by the documentary filmmakers remembers being

601
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:38.039
trapped in the streets unable to escape the flames and

602
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.559
hundreds of firefighters responded to the site after the first

603
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.840
emergency call was placed, which was around five forty five

604
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.719
am man. And it didn't stop there at first, so

605
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.639
there means there was more. Yeah, so yeah, I didn't

606
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:57.119
stop there. Around six fifteen am, the second major explosion

607
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:01.039
went off, and for the next two hours there's six

608
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.079
other Bleff type explosions occurred, causing the ground to shake

609
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:09.079
every single time. Oh my god. And then in addition

610
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:14.079
to the Bleff explosions, smaller explosions continue to occur until

611
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:18.239
eleven AM, and it wasn't until eleven pm at night

612
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.639
that the firefighters were able to extinguish all the flames.

613
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.480
The last flames. Wow, this is like a long time.

614
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:27.599
I don't know how long it takes to put out fires.

615
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.920
I have no firefighters. There was multiple fires, true, and

616
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:32.800
so they have to put all of them out. Yeah,

617
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.039
that's like that's a whole day. I mean, you've seen

618
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:39.440
how long the fires last here in California and Washington. Yeah.

619
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.840
At the end, several pieces of debris exploded and reached

620
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.360
homes and buildings as far as eight hundred meters away

621
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:51.320
from the site. In total, two hundred firefighters, nine hundred

622
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.559
eighty five emetics, a thousand, seven one hundred eighty paramedics,

623
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.320
a thousand, three hundred and thirty two volunteers, three hundred

624
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:03.440
and sixty three ambulances, and five helicopters participated in the

625
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:08.079
rescue operation. Wow. Obviously this applies to like any natural disaster,

626
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.480
but I feel like there's something special about Mexico where

627
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.159
like literally everyone helps. It makes me think of the

628
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:18.199
recent overturned Yeah that was I think that was another

629
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:22.920
blaff type explosion, but yeah, overturned, and like people were

630
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:26.880
so quick to help, and by the hundreds, yeah and

631
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.719
so and like again, the same thing when there's an

632
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.920
aim made lines to pass down water from the houses

633
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.280
to try to put down the fire. Yeah, I cried

634
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.719
at every single video that I saw. H me too,

635
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.400
I did the same thing. But yeah, people really come together,

636
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:43.320
and yeah, it makes me always think of them. Mister

637
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.599
Rogers quote talking about Wait, is it even for mister Rogers?

638
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.280
I think so. Looking for the helpers? Yeah, I thought

639
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.480
that was mister Rogers. I feel like it is, but

640
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:56.079
now I'm not sure. But maybe either way the point

641
00:37:56.719 --> 00:38:01.360
it's appointing. It's important. Yeah, look for the helpers, but

642
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.559
then like, maybe join them if you can, if you

643
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:07.320
have a skill that to look for them, to join them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

644
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.199
Well if you don't just look skill, don't because then

645
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.400
you'll be in the way. But yeah, yeah. In the end,

646
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.599
five hundred to six hundred residents lost their lives, including

647
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:22.159
five Bemex employees. Seven thousand people were injured, and six

648
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.320
thousands and six thousand people were evacuated, and one hundred

649
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:31.280
and fifty homes were destroyed. Oh my god, that's terrible.

650
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:33.920
I mean whole families were wiped out in their sleep

651
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:39.559
and others died from the smoke inhalation from the toxic fumes. Wow,

652
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.000
it's terrible. I feel worse about natural disasters. Well, I

653
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:47.119
guess it's not a natural disaster, but like disasters like that,

654
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:50.440
I mean, like a disaster that couldn't be stopped. Yeah. Yeah,

655
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.639
they had no time to even like notice this pipe.

656
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:59.239
And yeah, everything happened so fast. Yeah, I guess, like

657
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:01.719
I think of natural to caused by nature, this was

658
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.719
caused by gasoline or whatever the hell. Oh right, right,

659
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.679
that's what I meant. Yeah, I see. Many survivors believe

660
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.559
over a thousand people died and have demanded the government

661
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:17.440
provide answers and accurate numbers. Oh. Survivor Kuan Pedraza told

662
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:21.039
Riders in twenty thirteen that the government only counted those

663
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.920
who died at the plan or the hospital. He believes

664
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:28.159
as many as two thousand people died. According to Huan,

665
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.199
the government never explained what happened to his neighbors who

666
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:35.360
disappeared without a trace. Oh, and so that's why he believes, yeah,

667
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.719
more people died because, like he knows for a fact,

668
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:41.239
his neighbors were gone after this, and they were never

669
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:44.920
counted as victims of this. Yeah, and so he says

670
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.400
that he went to his neighbor's house afterwards, and he

671
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:50.480
found the foot of a little boy. Oh and that

672
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:56.760
was all that was left. Oh, that's terrible. Wow. A

673
00:39:56.840 --> 00:40:00.880
married couple named Francisca and Gustavo Gome told Reuters that

674
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.639
they never saw or heard from a family of nine

675
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.159
they used to run into at the market. So yeah,

676
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.519
some people definitely were not counted. Yeah. The government was

677
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.840
only able to identify about two percent of the remains

678
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:18.519
they found. Wow. The victims were buried in the Caracoliz

679
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:23.280
neighborhood of Pantala. Two days after the explosion, a mass

680
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:26.880
burial was held for two hundred and seventy two victims,

681
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.119
while it reported that many victims were quickly buried in

682
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.159
holes where they were found. I'm sure, yeah, to not

683
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:38.480
move them, yeah, or move them too much. Wow. President

684
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:42.000
Migen de la Madrid and other high ranking government officials

685
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.719
did not attend the mass burial, which drew criticism that's crazy.

686
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:48.880
Let me look at what party. Well, this was probably

687
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:58.280
during the wall. Party was yes, yes, of course, so yeah,

688
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:02.760
today didn't go that is that is wild and so yeah.

689
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:05.719
Many felt that the government was working fast to sweep

690
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.599
the tragedy under the rug, and the head of Beemex,

691
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:16.960
Mario Ramon Beta, also distastefully responded to the criticism by

692
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:21.199
saying that attacking the company was like cannibalism since the

693
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:26.039
company's tax money was helping keep the Mexican economy afloat. Yeah,

694
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:28.880
what a weird thing that's saying. Yeah, I mean that's

695
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.079
not right. You can especially becaize it even though it's

696
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.000
like naturally owned or whatever. Yeah, it's not like this

697
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:40.800
happened because people were being lazy. Steps were skipped, people

698
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:45.320
skimped on like material. This was like a literal accidental thing. Well,

699
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.400
I mean, we haven't got into an investigation yet, so

700
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.519
oh we don't know. You're right, I was assuming the best,

701
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.920
and I should never You shouldn't, especially because you already

702
00:41:55.199 --> 00:42:02.199
talked about a I learned about another pemic related people.

703
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:06.679
Weeks after the incident, the government began to compensate the

704
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:11.199
family of victims without taking into account a victim's age

705
00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:14.559
or their family's financial situation. I don't they need to

706
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:18.760
say that. Weeks after the incident, the government began to

707
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:23.199
compensate the family of victims, and the state paid ten thousand,

708
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:27.519
four hundred per family, without including the families of those

709
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.599
who were never found again after the explosion, So not

710
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.440
all victims were compensated. I see, I was like being wet.

711
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:38.760
I see, I was confused for no reason. One hundred

712
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.840
and sixty seven families were giving you homes in the

713
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.960
complex of Vaya the An Nahwak. Some families claimed they

714
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:49.679
never received any compensation even though they were severely burned

715
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.360
or lost their home. So yeah, like I said, not

716
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:57.800
everybody was compensated, and a park was quickly built south

717
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.000
of the accident site where most of the destroyed houses

718
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.199
used to be. Okay, oh, there's not actually much on

719
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:08.159
the investigation. And so the investigation into the disaster determined

720
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:12.519
that the plant had malfunctioning measuring devices and inadequate gas

721
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:17.519
detection systems. I see, so it was kind of their

722
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:21.159
fault a little bit, okay. And the storage tanks were

723
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:27.119
too close together, okay, and oh wow, they had inadequate

724
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:33.920
fire barriers okay, and oh god, okay, they also lacked

725
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:38.800
effective isolation and containment procedures. Okay, I could see how.

726
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.119
Now the head of Pemex was a little defensive and

727
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.360
sad of the wrong thing. Yeah, but even if those

728
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:50.400
things were not wrong, he still said something completely devoid

729
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.400
of empathy and inappropriate. But if you know, if you're

730
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.679
the head of a company, first, you have to be ceciopath. Sorry.

731
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.480
Of course, with the heads of companies, it doesn't even

732
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:03.400
matter if you apologize to them because they don't have

733
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:07.679
any feelings. Remember right, No, you're right. But also this

734
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.159
is like you are I say, we're going to charge

735
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:14.159
of this whole thing on this plant or whatever site did.

736
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:16.760
It wasn't doing the right things, and so by apologizing,

737
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:19.480
it's like saying it's our fault, which is what they

738
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.400
don't want to do right, and instead they're saying these

739
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.599
fucked up things I should have never been said. Yeah. Wow,

740
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:31.320
well that's sad. And yeah that was the that was

741
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:35.519
the Pemex San Juanic explosion, the day the sky lit

742
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:40.320
on fire. Wow, very sad. Okay, sharing that very sad. Yeah.

743
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:42.119
These dis answers are for I feel like, I don't know,

744
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.159
or even worse than true crime stories like hearing let's

745
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.840
never do it, let's never do it again. I'm sure

746
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:51.840
we will, but I'm gonna avoid it. No. But you

747
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.960
know what, they they highlight the wrongdoing of these companies

748
00:44:56.000 --> 00:45:00.039
and corporations. Yeah, and I know that as a a

749
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:07.920
state controlled business, it's not the same as like other capitalists,

750
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:12.880
private organizations. But yet these kind of things you know,

751
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.519
still happen, happens. Yeah. Yeah, Well we'll take a little

752
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:29.400
break here and then come back with spooky recommendations. Okay,

753
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.360
and we're back. Do you have a spooky recommendation? We

754
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:33.840
feel like we haven't done one in a while, so

755
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.639
limit it to one. Well, actually I do. I already

756
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:41.559
talked about it on our Patreon episode, but I just

757
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:45.320
got done listening to Bury Our Bones in the Midnight

758
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:52.760
Soil by v Schwab, And it's a Saffig Vampire tail

759
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:57.960
with three point of views spanning exactly a timeline of

760
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:02.239
like five hundred years or so. Okay, it was beautiful,

761
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:04.559
it was toxic. And you know what something I forgot

762
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.239
to mention I think when we were talking about it

763
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.400
on Patreon is that if you've watched Interview with the

764
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.639
Vampire or read those books. I don't know what the

765
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:16.079
books are like, but anyway, it reminded me of Lestad

766
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:21.960
and Louis that scenes I know of it a little bit, Yeah,

767
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:26.199
but yeah, the relationship of between two of the characters

768
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.679
reminded me of that. So, yeah, there is some domestic

769
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:36.960
violence in their toxicity. For sure, but it was beautiful, amazing,

770
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.599
a little bit of a slow burn, but I love

771
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:44.559
that kind of shit. It was really yeah, same all right.

772
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:47.440
One of the best vampire novels I've read an all

773
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.559
in a while. Wow. Yeah. I added it immediately to

774
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:52.840
my TVR and I a hold on it when you

775
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.719
as you should. Yeah, it sounds really good, like I

776
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:59.400
would really liked it. What was it called? The good

777
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.719
Bury Are Bones in the Midnight Soil? Yes? Okay, okay, well,

778
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:08.079
thanks for sharing that. I also have a spooky recommendation.

779
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:11.039
I've already made a short TikTok a video about it.

780
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:15.199
But I, as many of our listeners know, have been

781
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.559
in my Mexican film Mexican horror film journey, and I've

782
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.480
been checking out a bunch of Mexican horror movies and

783
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:26.519
so I recently watched a what is considered a classic

784
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.880
not only in Mexican horror but in Mexican film altogether.

785
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.559
And it came out in nineteen sixty It's called El Morales.

786
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:39.159
And this movie, like, at first glance when you hear

787
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:43.239
the description, like it's it doesn't sound like a unique story,

788
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:44.719
and it's kind of like, as a woman, you hear it,

789
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.320
and you're like, why would I want to watch this?

790
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:50.480
So first let me tell you. So. The movie follows

791
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:56.480
Bablo Morales, who is a TEXTI journalist, and his wife. Wow,

792
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:58.920
I forgot her name. Oh my god. The cast only

793
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.079
says miss Morales, what the fuck? Well, I guess I

794
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.679
feel that it was Gloria. Well, let me just give

795
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.559
you the letterbox description of this. It's so short. I

796
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:10.679
was going to go on a very long Yeah. Okay,

797
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.119
So a taxidermist decides to murder his wife after having

798
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:18.079
put up with her after twenty years of hellish marriage. Yeah,

799
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:20.239
and it's like you hear that, and it's like, all right,

800
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:23.280
well that sounds like every other man that killed their wives. Yeah.

801
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:31.320
But the movie tackles morality, religion rolls in a marriage,

802
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:37.679
like gender roles, yes, and the act of marriage itself.

803
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:43.760
It's commentary in those things because like this man, this woman,

804
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:48.199
his wife is supposed to be this really religious saint.

805
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:51.400
Her neighbors call her a saint, but she lies about

806
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.039
what her husband does. She like, she beat herself up

807
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:56.559
and said he beat her up, and he is like,

808
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.559
he is so kind to all the neighbors. He stops

809
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:02.800
and plays with the kids on the street, and he

810
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:04.639
had been saving enough from like this camera for the

811
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.480
longest time, and she steals that money first to give

812
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:12.599
it to the church, and he gets like home and

813
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.320
he sees like this church meaning going on and he

814
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:18.039
the like they all don't like him because of all

815
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.199
the lies that she has said about him, and they

816
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.400
think he's like this drunk wife beater and he's never

817
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:27.960
he's never done anything like this, And like he'll come

818
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.679
home from like talking with the kids outside and she's like,

819
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.320
do you are you taunting me? Because I can't have kids,

820
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:39.159
that's why you talk to the kids outside. And he's like,

821
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.480
I'm just saying hi to them, and she's like, you

822
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.880
know that. I don't like that. It's like you say

823
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:45.840
hi to everyone else and then you see me and

824
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.039
you stop smiling. But it's like she's like nagging him NonStop.

825
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.119
You know what I was gonna say, I should have

826
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:56.679
guessed if there's a villain in a horror movie, she's

827
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:00.159
gonna be childless. She's gonna be infertile. She also has

828
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:05.440
a disability. Of course, her knee is malformed, you know what,

829
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:11.960
but has a problem. No, it does. And this is

830
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:16.440
a nineteen sixty horny. But it's like you sympathize with him,

831
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:18.800
you're supposed to and you're supposed to find her terrible.

832
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.679
But I mean, I figure that she's a villain. But

833
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.960
at the end, it's like can he really even get

834
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.159
away with what he has done? Because the end so like,

835
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.320
I don't think the message is like kill your wife

836
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:34.639
if she's like that, it'll be crazy. It's a little

837
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:38.199
to comment in one and I don't remember it was

838
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:40.239
Instagram TikTok, but they basically it was like I didn't

839
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:42.599
like the movie because it's perceived as like men can

840
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:46.320
just get away with a femicide. And it's like, talk

841
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:50.920
about media literacy. This is an example of yeah, LACKI

842
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.360
media literacy. I don't think, and I don't I don't

843
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.719
fault the person for their comment because again, like it

844
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:59.440
is a little tiring scene. Yeah, first, we're living in

845
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:01.840
do we need to see it? It's an old movie,

846
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:03.639
so I think that's another thing you have to take

847
00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:05.719
into account. Also, if that's not your thing and you

848
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.440
don't want to watch it, don't watch it. You know,

849
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:10.360
this person did watch it and they say didn't like

850
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:12.559
they didn't like it because of that because of like

851
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.599
thinking in present times of femicience and then you see

852
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:17.519
this movie and this man does this in the movie.

853
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:20.159
But I think that the message is not that like, oh,

854
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:22.320
he will get away with it, like right. So that's

855
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.119
like when we talked last week about the w witching

856
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.800
and then people were like, oh, this is celebrating incests,

857
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.360
and it's like, no, it's not. You know what I mean,

858
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:34.639
that's right, So like, yeah, the message in the movie

859
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.159
isn't like, oh, you have to kill your wife, like yeah, wife,

860
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.480
she's even yeah, no, like he should he was wrong

861
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:41.280
in doing that, And I think the message in the

862
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:46.400
movie is that he that well yeah, and like because

863
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:48.639
of how religious she was and how she felt they

864
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:51.800
need to be better than everyone right through this religion.

865
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.400
It's again it's a commentary on these things. And it's

866
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.440
not like it's not a perfect movie. It's of its time,

867
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.239
there's no denying that, but it's it has it's like

868
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.679
it's it's black and white and it just has like

869
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:08.559
beautiful cinematography. It's a hard work for me, and it's funny.

870
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:11.840
It's like a dark comedy. It's called a dark comedy horror.

871
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.440
The horror is so minimal that it's really almost just

872
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:18.159
like a dark comedy crime. But it's still considered a

873
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:21.760
Mexican horror film. It's it's so well written, it's so

874
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:26.800
well directed, and the actors both do their parts. All

875
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:31.000
of them do their parts so well, including her as

876
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:33.159
the wife. Like you see her and you're like, oh

877
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:40.400
my gosh, she sucks. But I enjoyed it. I understand

878
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.639
the comment like not enjoying it because of that aspect,

879
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.880
but you know, like it's like when I watched that

880
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:50.599
One of the Dead movie and I couldn't get past

881
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:54.039
the homophobia. But it's a satirical movie. I think, so

882
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:57.159
it was a tirical but I couldn't like, I'm like,

883
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:59.440
I don't like that. I think it's the concept I

884
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:03.800
think I feel. However, though, I found it to be

885
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:08.840
a really fun movie and I do recommend it. I

886
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.480
enjoyed it. It's like one of my favorite classics. Now.

887
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:13.599
So also, I'm going to throw it in one move

888
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:15.880
because we're already chatting, unless you're like you're trying to

889
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:19.239
go no, okay, I watched the movie called Freaky Tales.

890
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.760
It's not a horror, it's like an action It's like

891
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.920
I kept seeing if Scott Pilgrim and kill Bill had

892
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:28.960
a baby, it would be this movie interesting. But make

893
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:33.639
it diverse, because those movies are very white. Yeah, this

894
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.599
movie is not. It's say in Oakland, California in the

895
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.599
nineteen eighties, and wait it was the eighties or nineties.

896
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:41.920
I already forgot one of those years of those decades.

897
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:45.880
And Too Short is a narrator. It has three inter

898
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.239
twenty timelines, like the movie Crash, but ten times better

899
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:53.679
like not like yeah, way better than the movie Crash.

900
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:59.280
The first timeline has like these punk rock teens and uh,

901
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:04.320
they're fighting Nazis, So that's like interesting alone is very fun.

902
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:06.679
The other very fun thing too Short is not reading

903
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:12.159
these timelines between timelines. The second timeline has too shorten

904
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:15.840
it and these two I want to see their teens,

905
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.679
their rappers, and they have this epic wrap battle against

906
00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:21.960
Too Short. And then the third one is Petro Pascal.

907
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.719
He is not a hit man, like an enforcer, you know,

908
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:27.920
the person that collects debt from like okay, yeah, yeah,

909
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:30.400
that's his job. But he's about to retire, but then

910
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.400
teens go bad, but then things get better, and so

911
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:37.280
that's his story. He's just this badass. It's Petro Prescal,

912
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.119
you know what I mean. Yeah, And in these again

913
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:42.199
I said, they're inner twenty timelines, so like at some

914
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:45.800
point you see them all interacting tiny ways and they

915
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:50.639
all connect together. In the last timeline, which features the

916
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:53.679
guy that Pedro Pascal is like really forced to work for.

917
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.559
His name is the guy. The last timeline features the

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guy and then a basketball player. I forget his name.

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I think it's like Sleepy is his nickname, and he

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Sleepy just ends up like kicking like all of the

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Nazi people, like, he kicks their ass so bad. He

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has a sword. He's wielding the sword that sounds campy

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a little bit. Yes, he decapitates someone. It's insane. Wow.

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The music top notch. There's the part where he goes

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and fights them in their house. Has this E forty song.

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I know you know the song, but I forgot the title,

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but I mean it's Oakland, Like, of course he's gonna

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have an E forty song. But the moment E forty

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says something, he's like like just chopping someone's head off,

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and like this, those two moments connect so beautifully in

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the movie. It's fun. It was, it's my new like

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favorite non horror twenty twenty five movie. Wow, it was

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a very very very fun watch. It's called Freaky Tales.

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I don't know where it's streaming because I rented it

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from Scarecrow. I didn't even I never have never heard

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of this movie and it came out last year. Oh wait,

937
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did it came out twenty twenty five or twenty twenty four?

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I feel like he said twenty twenty four, but I'm

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not sure now I'm not sure. Yeah, Like there was

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like no promo. I don't like, I never heard of this, yes,

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twenty twenty four. Yeah, okay, it's nineteen eighty seven. In

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nineteen eighty seven, Oakland was hella freaky that's funny, but no,

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it's fun like if you are from Oakland, if you

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love Oakland, you're gonna love this movie. It was made.

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It was like a letter of love to Oakland, and

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I love that anything Oakland related I already like always love,

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like yeah, automatically watching it, listen it consuming it. Yes, yes,

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but this, aside from it being set in Oakland is

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it's such a good movie. And so yeah, that was

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my last recommendation. We we got to go. So yeah,

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other than that. Oh, one more thing to add I

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oh the Patreon at the time. Yeah, by the time

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this comes out, I set up a discount. I think

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it's a thirty percent discount on all memberships on Patreon. Actually,

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I think it was not the first tier, but the

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two other tiers on Patreon where we do like bonus episodes.

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Sometimes we talk about hunted places, like we share scary

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stories and we read on Reddit and react to them.

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Other times we share our favorite horror media of a

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certain category, like we've done vampires, so theyse Dombi's still

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being horror. We just recorded the last part. So you know,

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if that sounds cool and you want to support us,

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And that was the last thing I wanted to say,

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So all right, thank you everyone for listening, and watch

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