WHY NOTHING IS FIXING YOUR DEPRESSION

Suicidal Depression And Losing Hope

Karalynne 0:00

And I remember sitting in a rocking chair one day being like, there is no light at the end of this tunnel. It is pure dark. This is misery. One day I just had it and like I said, I'd lost hope and I attempted suicide. I wanted to be gone.

Dr Pompa 0:12

When I was sick, I thought about suicide. Because my thing was I would rather die than live my life like this. It was very scary to live my life like this and I would lose a lot of hope.

Karalynne 0:22

Glyphosate to a lot of people acts in their stomach like a gluten sensitivity. So a lot of these people that think they have a gluten sensitivity, they might have a glyphosate sensitivity. You can hide thousands of chemicals under the term natural flavors.

Dr Pompa 0:37

Omega-6 is not bad. Did you hear that? Omega-6 is not bad. It's not. It's a matter of fact, arguably more important, definitely as important as omega-3 from suicide to depression to all kinds of bad symptoms to an incredible successful entrepreneur and a massive influencer right now in the health space. And I have to say, one of the best product lines out there, which we're going to talk to, at least toxin-free. Well, anyways, I am here with Carlin, and you are amazing. And I have to say, just ingredients is amazing. Your supplement line is amazing. Um, you know, your protein is one of the best tasting pure proteins out there that I've ever had. So I've got to experience your products. But I'm here to talk about you and how you got into this because you have a lot to teach, and we have a lot in common about finding really clean uh ingredients and things and you know, yeah, eating clean, all of it. We have all that in common. I want to take back, right? Pain to purpose is the name of the podcast. So I want to hear your story because you have one heck of a story, as I just said, right? Depressed, suicidal, and a lot of other symptoms going on.

Karalynne 1:47

I do have a crazy story.

Dr Pompa 1:49

Bring us back, and then I want to bring forward because you broke through like most didn't, um, and you're making a difference.

Karalynne 1:55

Well, thank you. So it's crazy because when I started sharing this story, I would say like 15 years ago. Now I'm saying 20 years ago, which is a long time.

Dr Pompa 2:05

Right? I know.

Karalynne 2:06

So 20 years ago, I found myself um with depression, but I hadn't always felt that way. And so I was like, hey, something has to be off in my body. And when people ask me about depression, I'm like, yeah, there were some days that I couldn't get out of bed. There were some days I was just frustrated and angry. There were some days that I um couldn't make decisions, but then there were some days that I had to fake it and just get up and go. But um, this depression was just terrible. And back 20 years ago, we didn't have Google like we do today, you know, or Chat GPT to be like symptoms of depression. And so I was going to doctor after doctor, and every doctor would say, Um, well, there's nothing that we can do to help you heal. And I was so frustrated. And granted, if you have a doctor like that today, run because there are so many things that we can do for depression. And um, they just kept saying, Well, we can give you an antidepressant. And I would say, Well, will that help me heal? And they were like, No. And so I'll talk about the antidepressants in just a minute. But um, and so this went on for a couple of years, and finally one day I had just had it because I was like, I hate my life right now. There's no doctor out there that can help me. I've gone to doctor after doctor. I've I've lost hope. Um, people would say to me, like, you can see the light, or just hang on to that light at the end of the tunnel. And I remember sitting in a rocking chair one day being like, There is no light at the end of this tunnel. It is pure dark. This is misery, like pure misery. And so one day I just had it and like I said, had lost hope and I attempted suicide. I wanted to be gone. And I had three little kids at the time and still just wanted to be gone because this depression was so miserable.

Dr Pompa 3:43

Did you plan that suicide? I did. Yeah. And I did.

Karalynne 3:46

I I is it appropriate to ask, like what how do you planned it or what is that appropriate, most people do like think about different ideas and different ways that they could do it before it actually happens. And because a lot of people think about it for weeks, months, years.

Dr Pompa 4:01

I I can say when I was sick, I thought about suicide because my thing was it I would rather die than live my life like this. It was very scary to live my life like this, and I would lose a lot of hope. So, but I never planned it. So you took it a step further.

Karalynne 4:15

I did take it a step further and even a further step with actually attempting. And thankfully, by the grace of God and by miracles, the fail or the attempt failed. And at that moment, I realized I had truly hit rock bottom.

Dr Pompa 4:27

And that's Did you think God was in it?

Karalynne 4:30

At that point, 1000%. Okay. Yes.

Dr Pompa 4:33

Did it lead you closer to him? Yes. Okay, I'm fascinated by this. I I started the show by because I'm fascinated by it. Because I think when someone gets that low, you know, to absolutely plan it. Like I thought about it, I almost wished it upon myself, but I didn't plan it, and I definitely didn't take action. So you were low.

Antidepressants As A Temporary Cast

Karalynne 4:53

And what's crazy is I couldn't see God before the attempt, but it was so miraculous how I am still here that now I could never deny God because of that. Um, but like I said, I realized I'd hit rock bottom. And so I went to my husband and I was like, we have to find answers. And so at that point, I did go on antidepressants because I needed something until I could find a doctor.

Dr Pompa 5:17

By the way, I say this all the time, right? I hate antidepressants. So that said, I always say it's appropriate when someone is a threat to themselves. That's or a threat to somebody else. Exactly. And then that's where I feel they're appropriate.

Karalynne 5:31

Well, and I say they're like a um cast to a broken leg. I was broken at the time and it was a cast for me, but I wanted to heal, just like you don't want that cast on your leg the whole, your whole life.

Dr Pompa 5:41

And so you intuitively knew you didn't have depression because you lacked these drugs, right? Some people take them thinking it's I have a chemical imbalance and this is balancing me, and it's a yeah, uh-uh, no, it's not the way it works.

Karalynne 5:53

I knew something was off because I hadn't always felt this way, but I also didn't know how to heal myself because I grew up eating frosted flakes for breakfast and took probably a bologna sandwich on white bread to school for lunch. And who knows when I ever had a fruit or veggie because my mom was just buying the stuff off the store shelves thinking, well, it was healthy. So I was I grew up eating the American standard diet. And that is part of the problem, though. So I'll tell you. So at this point, um, I went on the antidepressants, but I hated being on them because I felt like my emotions were seatbelt, meaning I didn't feel that depression to take my life, but I couldn't ever feel joy or happiness in it as well.

Dr Pompa 6:30

That's a problem, yeah.

Root Causes Found Through Testing

Karalynne 6:31

And so two years later, after going to doctor after doctor, I finally found a doctor who helped me. And she said to me, Depression is your body screaming for help. It's some something is off in your body. So we've got to do some blood work, we've got to do some urine tests, we've got to do some saliva tests, all these different types of tests to figure out what the root cause was of my depression. And so it was little things to big things that were off. I mean, I had um, I was low in vitamin D, like basic things, right? Low in vitamin D. I wasn't absorbing my B vitamins like I should. Um, I had some liver issues, cortisol issues, I had food intolerances, um, you know, the inflammation levels were high. I mean, all your basic things were off, but at the time, no doctor tested for any of that stuff. How many years ago was this? This was now 18 years ago when I found her.

Dr Pompa 7:20

Yeah.

Karalynne 7:21

And so, yeah, 18 years ago, they didn't test for that stuff.

Dr Pompa 7:24

Right, no.

Karalynne 7:24

Um, and so, anyways, went on uh about an 18-month journey with this doctor. She, like I said, figured out all these things. Um, I learned about nutrition from her because, like I said, I was eating frosted flakes. Learned that nutrition played a huge role in how your body feels. And after the 18 months of working with her, I was able to wean off those antidepressants. And so for about 15 years now, I've never been on the antidepressants. And I've been able to manage my depression by how I fuel my body because our bodies want to do us good, but we've got to fuel them with the right um, you know, you shouldn't man you said you manage your depression.

Dr Pompa 8:02

Do you feel like you're still battle that?

Karalynne 8:05

No. Well, so I should maybe explain that. So I actually feel a life full of happiness and energy.

Dr Pompa 8:11

Okay.

Karalynne 8:12

When hard times come, I could see that depression creeping in if when I do feel it creeping in, I know, okay, let's reevaluate. Have I not had enough fruits and veggies? Have I not been taking my methylated B vitamins? Have I not gotten good sleep? Right. I just know if I feel it creeping in for some reason, I've got to just re-evaluate everything I'm doing.

Dr Pompa 8:33

Yeah. You know, it's easy like to anchor back sometimes to our mind into those neurological patterns, right? You know, I had severe chemical sensitivity after I really didn't even know it. I had it until after I got better and had my energy back. I realized, gosh, I was normal. And now all of a sudden, someone's perfume or cologne, I'm not, right? So I was like, I'm chemically sensitive, right? Yeah. But it's like, it's I I can easily get back there where I become a little more sensitive than I like if I'm not doing some of the same things you just said, right? So our neurological system kind of can evolve back if we get overly stressed, right? But you know, I I would never say I'm chemically sensitive now, right? I just my wife would just tell you, I just smell things really good. Oh, I do too. Who has their shoes off? Yeah. I smell mold. Oh, it's just their shoes are off. You know, I smell everything, right? I walk in, I'm like, what's what is that? What does that smell?

Learning Nutrition One Swap At A Time

Karalynne 9:29

Yeah, that's funny. So, yeah, so back to the story. So, about 15 years have not been on the antidepressants, and about seven years ago, um, I felt like everybody was around me. Okay, wait, wait, wait. We should back up. After the 15 years, yeah, back it up. Um, at that point, I delve into nutrition and went back to school and just got a nutrition certificate, went to conferences. I wanted to learn everything about nutrition, the science behind food, the chemistry behind food. Yeah, exactly. Because I never wanted to go back to that depression ever again.

Dr Pompa 10:01

That was my fear. I never wanted to go back.

Karalynne 10:03

Yeah. And I never wanted my kids to deal with what I've dealt with. And so um I felt like I learned a lot in nutrition and food. And so about seven years ago, I felt like everybody around me was dealing with an autoimmune condition, migraines, anxiety, depression, chronic fatigue, you name it, right? And it was community members, church members, extended family members.

Dr Pompa 10:24

And so and by the way, they start coming to you when you have a solution, right? They come. Yeah.

Toxins And Endocrine Disruptors At Home

Karalynne 10:30

And so at that point, I was like, what am I? I wish I could just go into their homes for like a month and cook for them and grocery shop for them. And I know they would feel better. And of course, you can't do that. So I thought, you know, I'm just gonna do a little Instagram account and start teaching people like, look, this um ketchup at Walmart, it has high fructose corn syrup in it. The one right next to it doesn't, they're the exact same price. Choose the one without because the one with high fructose corn syrup, you know, degrades tryptophan and we need tryptophan to feel good. So I just started doing these little simple swaps, um, not to necessarily grow a business, but just to help people.

Dr Pompa 11:04

You have a lot. I mean, how many followers do you have?

Karalynne 11:06

I have 1.3 million right now. So, well, on Instagram, then I got other platforms.

Dr Pompa 11:11

Yeah.

Karalynne 11:12

And um, this account started to spread. And once I had 100,000 followers, I thought, you know what? There are still products out there that I can't find a good option for. And I've got a customer base now. Why don't I just start making these products? And so um, it was about four and a half years ago that we came out with protein powder, and that was our first product. Now we've got over 250 SKUs, but all of our products are made with real food because I hate what's hidden behind natural flavors.

Dr Pompa 11:39

I hate- Hold on a second though. You were sued because it wasn't all natural.

Karalynne 11:43

Well, we will tell that story. So someone tried to do that over um our protein, and I said to the lawyer, I will take you to court over that. Like we use all real food and we flavor with real food. We don't even use natural flavors. And um, he said, Your zipper is not natural. So we had to take the natural off of our logo because our zippers are not natural.

Dr Pompa 12:04

So what zipper should you use?

Karalynne 12:07

I don't think there's a zipper out there made from real food.

Dr Pompa 12:11

So we had to that makes no sense anyway. Yeah, it makes no sense. Yeah. So that means no product should be considered natural. I'd have thought that because wait a minute. So my protein powder, if it's in a plastic container, a bag of any sort, and it's not none of it's natural.

Karalynne 12:26

Yeah, that natural's a tricky word out there because you can sue for anything because there's no real regulations on it. So you just use other words like nourishing, real food, things like that.

Dr Pompa 12:37

That makes me mad though, because I mean, I I think then who can use natural because your container's not, and that's really what they were uh saying is your container wasn't that that makes no sense.

Karalynne 12:46

Yep. Crazy situation. No, and so then that's what grew this business. And yeah, now I'm out there trying to teach.

Dr Pompa 12:53

Your business is huge. I be and the reason why is people love your products, and they have you have a great reputation, despite the stupid. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, you do. I mean, your products are really, really clean. Thank you. You know, that's the thing I look for when I look for a product.

Karalynne 13:07

So and it's hard to do. I've learned through manufacturing, and I understand why other companies don't do it because it is really tricky to flavor with real food, because we're now in the can industry uh making cans, and it's been a nightmare.

Dr Pompa 13:21

And I I want to get into uh we'll get into this, but I want to hear more about your story before we do. But I do want to get into the things that are in natural products or even in our space, the health food products that you would say you won't use that ingredient, even though a lot of healthy products use that, right? So there's a lot of ingredients that you know you would say is not are not healthy. Um so I want to hear about that because my viewers they love things like that. So we we have the expert here that's done more research into ingredients than I have, I'm sure. But okay, so you you got through your life changes, right? And you start now um developing these products. Uh I mean, to start, I have business people out there too. To start a product company or any company is very, very difficult. So you started with protein and then tell us like what was the growth of your business? And were you still battling things yourself?

Karalynne 14:17

Um, battling depression.

Dr Pompa 14:19

Yeah, I mean, just yeah, battling health things or you know, while you were still trying to ramp up a business.

Karalynne 14:24

No, so because it was 15 years ago I ended with the doctor, and then um it was seven years ago that I started this Instagram account. And so in those eight years, I literally um just this is what I tell people because a lot of people out there that want to start a health journey are like, it's just too much, it's too confusing, too many noises, too many voices, we don't know where to start, or it gets too overwhelming. And so um at that point, I said to the doctor when she was trying to help me clean up my life, like, if you just throw it all at me at once and I've got to change everything at once, I'm gonna throw my hands up in the air and be like, I'm done. I'm overwhelmed.

Dr Pompa 14:58

Right.

Teens, Stimulants, And The New Normal

Karalynne 14:59

And so she was like, become a master of one ingredient at a time. So I like looked in my pantry for high fructose corn syrup and was like, oh wow, Ritz has high fructose corn syrup. Okay, I'll get a better choice cracker for my little kids, you know? And so once I was good at high fructose corn syrup and made all those switches, I went to artificial dyes and was like, oh wow, artificial dyes are in hand so good.

Dr Pompa 15:20

I never products you're using are going like this.

Karalynne 15:23

And so um it was like one little step at a time.

Dr Pompa 15:26

That's good advice, by the way. I mean, that is good for any mom out there because I think most moms today, not dads yet, some, but um, are going, I want better ingredients for my kids, but they don't know where to start. You just gave them a really good starting point.

Karalynne 15:40

So it took me really like eight years to feel like I was proficient enough and a master of all these things to start an Instagram account. And so, because I went from you don't just start making homemade yogurt and homemade sourdough bread the day after you learn, hey, you shouldn't be eating frosted flakes every morning for breakfast, you know. So it took years to learn how to do all these things. And so after those eight years, that's when I started my Instagram account. And so I do try to educate people like, look, just one little step at a time. You don't have to go in your bathroom and throw out all of your products at once. One, it's gonna be costly, and two, it's overwhelming. Let's, you know, figure out what it's a good deodorant you could use and swap that. And so that advice I've also taken over to my business of okay, let's do one product at a time, one little thing at a time. And so we started with the protein powder, and then I've just tried to find where in the industry there's holes that are missing. Smart. There's white space of where a nourishing product needs to be entered into that spot. And so we just really tackle one product at a time.

Dr Pompa 16:40

That is so smart. That that should apply to every business, by the way. It's like, yeah, you just, you know, you own this, you own this, and and level up. Um, you said something for people out there that are like, gosh, you know, I I want to start an Instagram page. You said people won't do it because there's so many voices out there. It's like, I don't even care about that. It's like I care, I just like here's my message, and this is what I'm doing. And that's what you did. You know, it's like, I don't care. There's all these people have opinions about high fructose corn syrup, right? You know, my research and what I found is this, and I'm bringing that, right? Because if you just wait, you know, you're never gonna please everyone. Someone's always gonna think you're wrong on something. Yeah, you know, it's like, but who cares? Just, you know, whatever you're you've done to get where you are now, preach it and teach it. And that's how you start an Instagram page.

Karalynne 17:27

Exactly.

Dr Pompa 17:28

Or any page, social media, yeah.

Karalynne 17:29

Yeah. And I think our messages are very similar because my message is eat real food. Like real food nourishes the body, it has the nutrients in it to nourish the body.

Dr Pompa 17:38

If you want to feel good every day and heal, and you know, and and my message also is it's like the reason people can't lose weight today, the reason people have most of these bizarre things like anxiety, depression, these are the toxins that of course we're getting from food, water, personal care products. But you know, we have a choice in all of these things, and that's why my Instagram, you know, page started. Uh well, actually, it probably started like teaching more complicated. I I taught doctors, still teach doctors, 20 years, 20 plus years. And I was starting it probably more complicated because I was used to doctors, and then I, you know, really simplified it.

Karalynne 18:17

Simplified it.

Dr Pompa 18:18

Yeah, you have to, yeah, exactly. And I it was a cruise experience. We went on a cruise and I I saw this whole population of people that like they don't even know. Like, if you said fasting, they would be like, oh, come on, you can go three days without food. Yeah, yep. It's like I was like dealing with these people, and I was like, oh my gosh, it's like I'm gonna reach these people. My wife will tell you it ruined my cruise because I realized I wasn't, and then I spent the whole time figuring out how to. I thought, I'm gonna work at McDonald's. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm I'm gonna work at McDonald's for a month. I'm gonna go work at McDonald's. And, anyways, didn't work at McDonald's, but I realized I got to communicate to these people. And you did the same thing. It's the same thing.

Karalynne 18:56

Keep it simple, basic, and sometimes it drives like my assistant crazy because we'll make a post and then I'm like, that is way too scientific. Like you and I love this info, but someone needs to read it in three seconds. And then she's like, Well, then I'm writing it for a kindergartner. And I'm like, Yeah, that's that's what it is.

Building Just Ingredients And Real Food Products

Dr Pompa 19:14

Exactly. Yeah, because uh people are overwhelmed, it's not an intelligent thing. No, it's not. They're overwhelmed, overwhelmed, man. You know, it just has to be so simple that you can be like, okay, I can do that.

Karalynne 19:23

Well, people are so busy, so stressed, and so they just want the basic here, just tell me what to do nice and simple.

Dr Pompa 19:29

That's why I like you know, the exchange, you always do it, right? It's like this for that, right? People love that. Swaps. Yeah, people love when I go into Costco and just, you know, because so many people shop there, right? And I'll tell you, I it going to those places, it's like the cruise, you know. It's like, like, what? I, you know, I've been out of touch from this life for such a long time. You go into Costco and you look in the the back. My assistant always wants me to run up to these people and be like, oh my gosh, like you look, you see what you're doing here? Like, and you wonder why you're overweight. You wonder why you don't feel well. It's like, look at your basket. Like, I want to take pictures of their baskets.

Karalynne 20:06

I know. But you know what? I have to think back to my days when I thought the American diet, I thought what was on the shelf was fine. And so for all years growing up, my mom was like, here's some cereal, have some cereal before breakfast. Here's this. I don't think people realize it until they have a health crisis or they have a family member or someone close to them that has a health crisis, and then they're like, Oh, I better get doing something different with my life. And then they start eating better.

Dr Pompa 20:32

And here's the scary part though. Like, someone said, Well, I grew up on these foods and blah, blah, blah. And then uh there, someone sent me an Instagram post of Oh, I talk about this all the time. Our frosted flakes compared to these frosted flakes, like ingredients this long, ingredients this long, right? I mean, you could go through every processed food. I'm not making an argument for processed food, but I'm saying it's gotten way worse.

Karalynne 20:55

Well, but also how we grow our crops has gotten way worse. Way worse.

Dr Pompa 20:59

The soil's gotten worse. Everything's worried.

Karalynne 21:00

Well, even just the GMO crops that are sprayed with the glyphosate. My mom didn't have to worry about that.

Dr Pompa 21:05

We didn't deal with that as kids. And so our frosted flakes didn't have that.

Karalynne 21:09

No, so like our cinnamon toast crunch that we used to eat back in the 70s, 80s, 90s is now in the Cascadian farm organic box. And the cinnamon toast crunch today is the stuff with the GMO um sugar beets, you know, the GMO corn, whatever else is in there.

Dr Pompa 21:26

So yeah, yeah.

Karalynne 21:27

So it is not the same as what we ate in the 70s, 80s, 90s.

Dr Pompa 21:31

It's not. And it's like so people need to realize that. I mean, because I always hear that too. It's like, well, my grandfather's 96, and he, you know, oh no, no. Your grandfather's 96 because he didn't have anything to do with the chemicals. He hate real. He's his food products. Yeah, absolutely. Different game. When we look at the amount of people that can't lose weight, despite changing diet, weight loss resistance, it's chemicals. Yeah. You know, it's not even just the food you're eating, right? Of course, always, always start with diet change, but it's the academic. Chemicals that are accumulating over time in people's cells, driving them, their cells not even to hear their hormones. I've been preaching this for years. So today, I mean, we are in a toxic soup. And that's why your Instagram page is taken off.

Karalynne 22:13

Well, when I was battling my depression and working with the doctor, she said to me, I wonder if your body lotion is playing a role in all of this too. And I was like, What? You are crazy. Like, who am I talking to? Because I didn't know 20 years ago any of this stuff. And then she's like, No, body, like your skin's the largest organ. You're rubbing body lotion all over it. I bet your body lotion has endocrine disruptors in it. And back then I was like, what are endocrine disruptors? You know? And so that's I'm trying to teach my page of how I felt 20 years ago. You know, like, okay, I don't know what endocrine disruptors are. Let's talk about this. And girls.

Dr Pompa 22:49

So I try to teach these moms, like all these girls that By the way, my viewers, some of them are going, Well, what are endocrine disruptors? You better define it.

Karalynne 22:57

So endocrine disruptors are things that mimic your own hormones so that your hormones can't do their regular job, is how I simply put it.

Dr Pompa 23:06

Yeah. And by the way, in our space now, everyone's just taking more bioidentical hormones. It's like, um, how's that working? It's not, you know, but instead of getting rid of all these chemicals that are imitating our uh hormones.

Karalynne 23:18

Yeah. So I tell these moms that have these girls, these so I have teenage, uh teenage daughters. So I've learned over the last couple of years that these girls are dealing with terrible PMS, can't even get to school some days of the month because they're in so much pain, so much or heavy bleeding, things like that. Um, so many people I know with infertility, things like that. And I'm like, moms, just look at your girls. So they go, they take a shower, they're using shampoo and conditioner with endocrine disruptors in it, then they're using body wash all over their body with endocrine disruptors, then shaving cream, then they get out and they're rubbing body lotion all over, and then makeup all over, and the deodorant, and all of them have endocrine disruptors. And you are questioning why the body can't handle a monthly cycle of regular or can't be fertile. Like we've got too many endocrine disruptors messing with these girls' bodies.

Dr Pompa 24:07

PCOS. We didn't have this problem as kids, right? Women didn't have this issue, right? Now today it's like so prevalent. But the answer, oh, here's more hormones.

Karalynne 24:18

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 24:18

Right? It's like, oh, well, put them on birth control. That's like the answer for everything. Put them on birth control, which is a synthetic progesterone, progestin, which is, you know, makes everything worse.

Karalynne 24:28

Well, because you get people that come to my page and say, well, it's just a little bit of toxins in that shampoo and conditioner, and just it's only a little bit in the body lotion and it's FDA approved or whatever. And I'm like, who's testing the whole accumulation of all of these toxins on a daily basis?

Dr Pompa 24:43

That is the you just nailed it. That's the problem. Our government bodies will tell you this amount is safe. Well, how do you know it's safe for me? Because, you know, again, it's what you accumulate over time. So, really, none of it's safe. We'd have to just we have to control what we control, knowing our bodies are accumulating it. And some people's detox pathways are way more shut down and they're accumulating it much faster. That's why you have to just with you can control all the shampoos, all the lotions, right? What is the statistic from EWG? You women start their day with 419 chemicals.

Karalynne 25:18

I can't remember how to do it. 280 some are cancer causing.

Dr Pompa 25:21

I mean, those are pretty round, I mean pretty close to the right numbers, but yeah, and men, you're not far behind. You know, it's half of that, but still.

Karalynne 25:28

But then what's sad about that also is I've seen my teenage daughter and her friends, so this doesn't happen with mine, but others, um, they're in a hurry for school. They're gonna be tardy. And so they've just rubbed all the stuff on and they run out to school with no um breakfast, and then all of a sudden they're having a diet coke, you know, at 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock because they're tired. And that's the first thing they've entered into their body is endocrine disruptors that morning and now diet coke.

Dr Pompa 25:53

You know, I I know we can curse social media in so many ways because in so many ways it's damaging this same generation you just referenced, right? In so many ways. However, where else are they going to hear that what you just described is causing their headaches, their anxiety, their sleeplessness, their you the acne, the I mean the hormone challenges. Where else? Because it's not being told to them.

Karalynne 26:20

No, it's not. And so it has to come from people like us on Instagram podcast, and I'm trying to teach the parents to hopefully then teach the kids.

Dr Pompa 26:30

Yeah, that's the goal. And you know, I I tell you, this is crazy. I'm sure this happens to you too. I, you know, I see people in airports and different places that follow me, and I can't believe how many young kids, guys, boys, and girls are following me. So you must have the same thing. I mean, the young generation is waking up, they are, yeah. And it's because of social media, but I'm sh stunned. I always say to them too, I'm like, wow, I'm so glad you follow me. Oh, all my friends do too. Oh, that's right. It's like I just feel like we're breaking through. Yeah. Right. Yeah. We're making it.

Karalynne 27:03

Well, and I'm trying to get on TikTok, which I hate TikTok.

Dr Pompa 27:06

Yeah, they post my stuff on TikTok. I don't even know how to do a TikTok. I've I if you'd ask me, I never did a TikTok video in my life.

Karalynne 27:12

It's so hard, but scrolling through, I am seeing that younger generation, they're tired of hearing about their parents' depression or cancer or seeing their parents struggle, and they don't want to be the next person struggling with cancer, the next person with depression. So they are making changes. So I love seeing that pendulum swing.

Dr Pompa 27:28

I think that they just don't feel well. But here's the problem is that it's become their new normal. Yeah. It's like, so they're kind of just living life. But here's the scarier problem. They're getting Adderall from their friends who get it prescribed. They're trading it. I mean, my kids tell me this, right? I go, oh my gosh. Like, I mean, Adderall is a Schedule II drug. It's like cocaine, right? And then all the other stimulants um that they're using, of course, the Red Bulls and uh nicotine now. Um, the the what's the vaping? I I mean all these things that we didn't deal with. And of course, marijuana use is uh stronger than ever, right? It's like in all stimulants to the brain. Why?

Karalynne 28:10

Because tired and nutrient deficient. They have to, right.

Dr Pompa 28:13

Yeah, they're not getting to the cause, but they're doing this just to function.

Karalynne 28:17

Because we're not eating like we should. What teenager is getting enough fruits and veggies every day?

Dr Pompa 28:23

That's the point.

Karalynne 28:23

And so the inflammation is skyrocketing and we're nutrient deficient, and that's causing so many health issues. But most are not depression and anxiety.

Dr Pompa 28:32

Most aren't putting it together, right? They're not because to your point, the parents don't know, they don't know. So they're just using stimulants to get by. Yeah. And we're looking at to bring this full circle, we're looking at teenage suicides. And I I know social media plays a role that there's other factors, but trust me, trust us, that this food problem, this toxicity problem is leading to the depression. It sure did you and me.

Karalynne 28:58

Exactly. I mean, like I said, our bodies want to do us well, but they can't if we're not fueling them properly. And these poor teenagers and you know, young adults, they just aren't eating the fruits and veggies like they need to.

Dr Pompa 29:10

Yeah. Yeah. And I here's part of the problem um is it's a rush-rush world.

Karalynne 29:16

They're running to fast food. You know, that it's right.

Dr Pompa 29:18

Fast food, it's convenience. Yeah, it's um even for the parents, right? It's convenience. That's why I think you're, you know, just ingredients products are saving the day in a lot of ways. You've made it healthy food convenient. You've replaced a lot of the products, and you're welcome to share some of your best sellers and you know, and things of that sort, because people out there are gonna say, where do I start? And I do want the convenience. I do want the better products. I don't know where to get them, I don't know what to trust because they're overmarketed. Yeah. And so, you know, uh, you're you're welcome to share some of your uh top solutions.

Karalynne 29:54

Well, like you said, I mean, like you believe, I'm all about if you can read the ingredient on the label and you know you have it in your pantry, then it's a food to use, you know, in your product. But if you can't, if you don't have Polysorba 80 in your why are you, you know, eating a food with that? So that's been our take is just let's make with real food. Back in the 1800s, they only had real food, they made everything with real food. So why have we gone away from that? Because of convenience and price. So I'm on a mission to try to change that and like show manufacturers and show people how to do it with real food. Because four year, four and a half years ago, when we started doing protein, manufacturers didn't know how to do it. Now we and there were only like one or two other protein uh powders on the market that did it with real food. Now you've got 20 plus. Um, but talking about these young adults and teenagers, um, I have four kids that are that age. And what I see with their friends all the time is these monsters and Red Bulls and these energy drinks. And so, like four and a half years ago, someone asked me, Would you ever do an energy drink? And I said, Absolutely not. No way. I will never do an energy drink. Now we're coming out with an energy drink actually tomorrow for Black Friday because of this problem. I'm like, these kids are tired, so they just don't care. They get a toxic drink. We've got to fix this. And so we actually are the first energy can on the market flavored with only real fruit.

Dr Pompa 31:22

Yeah.

Karalynne 31:22

And it's been a nightmare to make it because most manufacturers across the nation will not take us. One manufacturer took us and quit on us because our guava was clogging up their lines. Their filters were full of just guava fibers and things. Another, then we ran a strawberry product through and we had strawberry seeds everywhere. And so they were like, you are a nightmare to work with. You're done.

Dr Pompa 31:45

Real fruit in those is the key. I did a video on that. Um, natural flavors typically aren't that natural, are they?

Supplements, Fraud Risks, And NSF Testing

Karalynne 31:52

No, they're not. Yeah. No, and natural flavors, you can hide thousands of chemicals under the term natural flavors.

Dr Pompa 31:59

And but you got criticized for not natural and it was your zipper. Oh, exactly. I know. So half-assed backwards. Right.

Karalynne 32:05

And so you can have thousands of chemicals under this natural flavors, and everybody thinks that they're extracting things from plants or something in the natural flavors. No, they're synthetically making them in a lab, they're just the same compounds as what you would find in a plant, but they're still synthetically made. And so it's all confusing out there. And so we're just trying to say we make with guavas and mangoes and strawberries and limes and things like that. But it has been a nightmare because manufacturers are using organic products.

Dr Pompa 32:33

Yes. Yeah.

Karalynne 32:34

And um, but my mission and hope is that manufacturers will learn how to do this. And soon we won't be the only can out there flavored with real fruit.

Dr Pompa 32:43

Yeah. Well, there you go. See, that's a replace, that's solving a problem because all these kids are going to reach for it. Now let's give them something that's really good. I'll help you sell that. Um, talk about your protein. And the reason why I want you to, because I'm you didn't come here to sell product, but I I'm doing that because it's a people want answers. I know this from my own. When I don't give an answer, people get mad at it.

Karalynne 33:04

I know. Then you have a million DMs.

Dr Pompa 33:06

It's like, but if you but people criticize you because you're selling something too. It's like, oh my gosh. It's like no matter what, you get criticized, but I don't care because if we can replace even one meal with a protein powder that's whole food, we just solved a huge problem. So if we can change how people start their day, or maybe it's their lunch. So talk about that and talk about some of the things that people can do because that's what moms out there are gonna do of like I can send my kid off with a really good protein. It's a meal. So talk about it.

Karalynne 33:36

Yeah, and protein powder is so easy for a mom. I've got six kids, so I get it. Yeah. I mean, you throw it in a scoop of Greek yogurt, and you've got amazing Greek yogurt in the morning with some baby.

Dr Pompa 33:47

Coconut calt yogurt. It's really expensive, but it's really good. Yeah, exactly.

Karalynne 33:50

Or throw it in a smoothie, right? But our protein powder, so I figured if I was gonna make protein powder, then I wanted to make it exactly how I wanted it. And so people fight over what protein you should have, but for us, this is what we did. So we have whey in there, but it's grass-fed whey. And I literally very important brought in um whey from all across the world, like 40 different types. The grass-fed whey from America literally tasted like manure and tested terrible for glyphosate and things like that. Um, the grass-fed whey from New Zealand tastes like water. It's incredible, but it had the most nutrients in it and did not taste like manure. And so we use the New Zealand grass-fed whey because it is the cleanest in the entire world.

Dr Pompa 34:32

Well, it's probably grass-finished, meaning grass-fed in America could mean, yeah, they ate some grass and then we were given all this grain.

Karalynne 34:40

So ours is actually a hundred percent because of being grass-finished. And it's really cool in New Zealand. We went there and they um have all these rules and regulations for their cows. Like each cow has to have a certain amount of acres of it's a nanny state.

Dr Pompa 34:53

They have all kinds of rules.

Karalynne 34:54

I know, but it they protect their cows to be eating just grass out there, you know. Um, they're out grazing like cows should, you know, not in a factory. Anyway, so we have put the cleanest ingredients in this. So it's got the grass-fed whey from um New Zealand, but then I also wanted some chia seed protein in there just for the omega-3s. I wanted some pumpkin seed protein in there for the tryptophan and the magnesium. Um, I wanted some collagen in there just for, you know, your gut, your hair, skin, nails. We put a little bit of pea in there just for a complete um protein in there. So it's got five different types of protein sources. And then everything is flavored with just food. So our strawberries are strawberry uh protein powder is real organic strawberries in there. And so people will be like, oh my gosh, this really tastes like strawberries. I'm like, yeah, because it is strawberries. It's not natural flavors. So you're getting your fruit on top of it, or you're getting your cacao, which is full of antioxidants, as you know, or you know, the peanut butter is just real peanut butter. When I see these protein powders out there that are natural flavors for something like cacao or peanut butter, I'm like, what are you guys doing? It's so easy to use peanut butter, so easy to use cacao.

Dr Pompa 36:04

Most by the way, most protein powders on the market, I mean, even healthy pro we'll do that, right? Because there's a whole nother category, but the healthy ones aren't very healthy. No, they're not. Yeah, I mean to your point.

Karalynne 36:16

I've seen some of their weight, and some of their whey is just so cheap and meaning it's full of fillers.

Dr Pompa 36:22

Yeah.

Karalynne 36:22

It's yeah. So, and we get all the time like, well, why doesn't your um protein powder hurt our stomach? Like so many others out there. I'm like, well, one, it has no artificial stuff, two, it's just food. But then three, we strip the casein out of it. And so, casein, a lot of people say they're lactose intolerant, which there are some that are lactose intolerant, but lactose is a sugar, and most people do okay with sugars. So a lot of them should be probably saying they're casein intolerant.

Dr Pompa 36:46

Yeah, that's the that's the protein more like gluten that it's even worse. I mean, for people that have especially leaky gut, that's what they're reacting to.

Karalynne 36:52

Yeah, and so a lot of the protein powders out there are full of the casein, where ours doesn't have any, so it's really gentle on the stomach.

Dr Pompa 36:58

That's good to know, yeah. So because people might avoid it with the seeing the whey in it, but it's casein-free.

Karalynne 37:04

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 37:04

That's really uh good. So our my little granddaughter Dovey, so one of her favorite things, my wife takes a scoop of your protein powder, she loves it, and then she mixes it with a coconut calt. Oh, there you go. That's a meal. It's amazing. It's a meal.

Karalynne 37:20

And so when these moms are saying they're so um they're in such a hurry in the morning, or these 21-year-olds, yeah, yeah, grab a protein smoothie out of the bottom.

Dr Pompa 37:29

I'm almost out, so you better send me some.

Karalynne 37:31

Oh, we will send you.

Dr Pompa 37:32

No, but it's um, it is that and that's what I wanted people to hear is it it's a complete replacement. So there's a start, yeah, right. And um, and you could do that for two meals and then have dinner. I, you know, or you can enter in fast and just eat two meals, whatever you want. But fact is, is it you've made it easier. And you've done that with other products too, and you're doing it with the energy drinks.

Karalynne 37:51

Yeah. And we're trying to do supplements as well. Um, the supplement industry is the wild, wild west.

Dr Pompa 37:58

No, exactly.

Karalynne 37:58

You can put so much stuff in there and there's no one regulating it.

Dr Pompa 38:01

Yes.

Karalynne 38:02

No one regulating it. And I got so tired of that. I'm like, I want to know that exactly what the label says is exactly what I'm getting.

Dr Pompa 38:08

Yeah.

Karalynne 38:09

And I'll tell you like, we have a turmeric product and we brought in turmeric from around the world, and it was crazy what we found. Like some were literally rice powder just colored yellow, and they get to call it turmeric, and it's really cheap.

Dr Pompa 38:22

You have to you have to test them in a lab, and they have uh a machine, uh, what is it called? Chromo site um spectology. Uh, and it what it'll do it'll do is it'll show if it's a fingerprint of actual turmeric. And they get in our lab, they get all these ingredients oftentimes it's like it's it's not even turmeric, right? And there's even a potency that you can see um using that.

Karalynne 38:45

So yeah, and we get a lot of our products NSF certified. And this is crazy. I was there in Michigan um a few months ago, and they were telling me that a lot of their testosterone supplements that come through never pass NSF certification because over 90% of them have a form of Viagra in it, but it's not listed on the label.

Dr Pompa 39:05

Really?

Karalynne 39:06

Isn't that insane?

Dr Pompa 39:07

And and so it gives the an action then. People are going, wow, this is the same thing.

Karalynne 39:11

Yeah, this is working, exactly. But it's not listed on the label.

Dr Pompa 39:16

Wow.

Karalynne 39:17

That's our supplement in the world.

Dr Pompa 39:18

And that's a testosterone supplement.

Karalynne 39:20

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 39:20

Wonder what kind of I'd like to. I'm gonna test some of these, right? Right?

Karalynne 39:23

90% of them is what they said.

Dr Pompa 39:25

90% of testosterone supplements sold in this country.

Karalynne 39:29

Well, okay, I don't know about sold in the country that went to them to be NSF certified.

Dr Pompa 39:34

So went to them to be NS NSF certified. Wow. Okay, that's the same.

Karalynne 39:39

But it just shows you, I mean, because that's a dangerous thing.

Dr Pompa 39:42

I mean, that is, I mean, those companies, I mean, come on, the FDA would shut that down in a second. But they're just they're just not privy to it.

Karalynne 39:49

Right, exactly. That's the key, is they're they don't know. They're not privy to it. So that's why I'm saying, though, all these consumers are just buying things hoping what's in the pill is what's on the label, and it's so many times not.

Dr Pompa 40:01

You know, and and if they can get a reaction of works, then they're gonna get resales and the products gonna go by oh my god. And they just care about the money. Like how much like products, all those weightlifting products and GNC.

Karalynne 40:16

Yep.

Dr Pompa 40:16

Like, I mean, those things are just poison. I mean, so many artificial things, labs, and then I didn't even think about that and wonder how many of them have you know hormone stimulators, anabolics in there, if you will, to some degree.

Karalynne 40:32

Yep. Oh man. It's crazy. It's the wild, wild west.

Dr Pompa 40:35

It is.

Karalynne 40:35

So that's why we started making those as well.

Dr Pompa 40:37

So what you're you're um I'm I'm going off on the product because this is just my amount my own curiosity. Uh what how many products do you have in your line now? And what does it span into, like and where are you going with it?

Practical Family Plan For Food Swaps

Karalynne 40:49

So, like I said, we're just trying to fill the spaces where I see a problem. Um, and so we've got over 200 SKUs right now, but that is like 28 different protein flavors, things like that in there. But I'll give you an example of something else we're coming out with. Um there's the the green industry right now with greens is huge, right?

Dr Pompa 41:09

Yeah, but it's so much crap, right?

Karalynne 41:11

That's what I'm getting to. We tested one and one that was marketing, they were getting their full daily vitamins worth. Um, literally tested to be like one little broccoli floret. And so it's totally misleading out there. A lot of them are full of lead, like way over the level that they should be, just because they're trying to get that vegetable powder down into such a small amount. And so we are coming out with a microgreens um drink in January, because one, the microgreens are so nutritious, and then two, we're control we're growing them ourselves, and so we get to control the soil that they're in.

Dr Pompa 41:49

Because that's where the lead and arsenic come from. So I mean, any if if you test your broccoli that you're buying in the store, it has lead and arsenic in it. But it's it's the concentration's low. That's the point. But when you take all this broccoli and juice it down into the concentration, it goes like this. And that's that's why a lot of people eat gluten-free cassava flowers loaded with lead. The reason it's a root that's if you just ate the root, you'd get a little lead, nothing, but when you concentrate it down into a flower, now it becomes extreme levels. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Karalynne 42:20

So we're coming out with a microgreen strength that will actually give you the nutrients um and not be full of heavy metals, things like that. And so we're just trying to see where the sp the voids are in the market that we can fill.

Dr Pompa 42:32

And what about personal care products?

Karalynne 42:34

So we do have a few of those. We've got deodorant because um deodorant was one of our very first products because five years ago you couldn't find the deodorants like you can today. They all had the talc and the aluminum and all the things in it. Where now, thankfully, there's a lot of fragrance and fragrance.

Dr Pompa 42:50

You and I share that we think fragrance is one of the biggest hormone disruptors, poisonous things. Yeah, because it's a non-regulated industry because of the IP protection that they have.

Karalynne 43:01

Yeah, and they've got to have phthalates in there with the fragrance to keep that scent lasting years. So, you know, you go to Bath Body Works and buy cherry blossom, and five years later you open it on your shelf and it still smells like cherry blossoms, and it's those phthalates.

Dr Pompa 43:15

And that's one ingredient we know, but there's so many we don't know because it's intellectual property. Exactly. They don't have to tell us exactly. And these a lot of the chemicals and fragrances have been banned for years. Yep. And we're still in other countries. No, yeah, in other countries. You know, in even in this country, but it's like they get away with it in fragrance. Yep. So it's like you're getting exposed to stuff that we know cause cancer and has been banned for it. And in fragrance, you're getting it.

Karalynne 43:40

Yeah, it's crazy.

Dr Pompa 43:41

Okay, so I interrupted you though. So uh your personal care where you deodorant. Oh, so deodorant. Yeah.

Karalynne 43:46

And then so we we have like face serums, a face wash, things like that, but we are coming out with more in 2026.

Dr Pompa 43:54

Yeah, that that's that's a whole nother niche, right? Do you see yourself ever getting into Um other food products?

Karalynne 44:01

Um, so we s we came out with food bars, like snack bars.

Dr Pompa 44:05

Yeah, bars.

Karalynne 44:06

It's another another mess, right? They're full of artificial sweeteners, especially. So ours are just made with real food.

Dr Pompa 44:13

It's it's hard to find good bars.

Karalynne 44:15

It is.

Dr Pompa 44:16

Yeah, I try ours. My assistant over there. Wasn't it hard? Because we kept trying to people wanted replacements, and I I kept going, I don't I don't like it. I don't like it. It's it's really I don't like most of the bars.

Karalynne 44:25

We have a chocolate peppermint one coming out for the holidays that literally is so good. It's finally a bar that I'm like, oh my gosh, I gotta get this to everybody. It's a good one.

Dr Pompa 44:33

Yeah, because if it is good, then it probably doesn't taste that great. So I'm not thinking I've had your bars. I've never had your bars. I'll send you some bars.

Karalynne 44:41

Yeah. So we're we're open to anything out there, just trying to one, teach the people to eat real food, but two, we're trying to teach manufacturers how to do this because it is new for them. Even bars with real food, that is new. Yeah, a lot of them, a lot of manufacturers out there wouldn't take guests.

Dr Pompa 44:58

Well, because when you're using real food, you're combating this problem of shelf life.

Karalynne 45:04

Shelf life, they all don't taste the same. That's a big problem.

Dr Pompa 45:07

Right.

Karalynne 45:08

I've got it's gonna be funny. There's these raspberry lemonade drinks coming out. Well, the first batch of raspberries were really sweet, and the second batch were really sour. So half the people are going to get a sweet raspberry lemonade, and the second half of people are going to get a sour raspberry lemonade.

Dr Pompa 45:23

But you know, that's real food.

Karalynne 45:25

It's real food. It's like when you go to Costco, and sometimes you get a great watermelon, and sometimes you get a little bit more. You might have to buy a variety of cans and you might get some sweet and some sour.

Dr Pompa 45:43

Yeah, yeah. That that's but that's the nature of real food. If I was listening, if I was a mom out there, I would be like, okay, you're the expert. Um, help me. Okay. So help me through the day with our family, right? Like, where do we start? Like first steps. So this is a good idea. You're you're really good at this.

Karalynne 46:01

This is what I want to say to moms, because when I was going through my health journey, I was like, look, I have six kids. They don't want kale and sardine, a new kale and sardine diet, right? They still want their hamburgers, they still want their mac and cheese, they still want pizza, but we don't have to have Domino's pizza. Like, let's learn how to make a sourdough crust. Let's learn how to put real ingredients on the food. Let's use a tomato sauce that doesn't have sugar added in it and one that is made with extra virgin olive oil, right? There's all these better choices. So you can still make pizza and all the things your kids like, but in a better way in a better way. And so I want to tell them one, don't stress over this. Like we've got too much stress. Take one little step at a time and make swaps that your kids won't even notice at first. Like, because that's a big thing. Moms will always say, I can't do this. My kids will totally notice that things are changed. And I'm like, they'll never notice that you change their ketchup. They're never going to notice you change their mayonnaise. They're never going to notice that you're now providing more fruits and veggies at your dinner time.

Dr Pompa 47:06

Um has no corn syrup.

Karalynne 47:07

Right.

Dr Pompa 47:08

Right? It it has an organic cane sugar, right? But that's better. Right. Yeah. So if they see Heinz, they're not gonna Exactly. Yeah, they're not gonna know. And I did a taste test once. I I think we had what, six yeah, maybe like four different ketchups, right?

Karalynne 47:22

And they do taste different.

Dr Pompa 47:24

The Heinz ketchup actually won out, right? You know, and and but people hated me for it because they're like, that's not healthy. But it's like, look, my goal here was to do what you said. My goal was to give parents something that their kids are going to like.

Karalynne 47:37

Right.

Dr Pompa 47:38

Kids love Heinz ketchup, right? So if you replace it with the organic one, it beat out all the other healthy ones. Honestly, it tasted way better. And at the end of the day, I I don't, I thought it was, you know, it was the natural flavors, which I get that you and I criticize that, but again, it was getting the kids to eat. Right. Yeah, the other ones didn't taste well.

Karalynne 47:55

Well, and this is what I try to teach also that there is no perfect food unless you're just eating fruits and veggies and things. And so instead of trying to be perfect, I try to say these are good, better, and best choices. So let's let's look for a best choice. But if your grocery store doesn't have the best, then find a better.

Dr Pompa 48:13

And I think that's what I did. I said, okay, this is the healthiest. However, this one does taste the best. Right. And this would be a good place for you to start with your own. Right? Exactly. That's what I did say. Yeah.

Karalynne 48:21

Yeah. So the to those moms or to anybody out there trying to change their lifestyle, just do one little step at a time because all of those um changes add up, you know, like a snowball effect, and all of a sudden you're living a healthy lifestyle. So I always say one little step at a time, don't overwhelm yourself with perfection because there aren't any perfect ultra-processed foods out there. Yeah. Right? There's always going to be something, um, except maybe our just ingredient ones. Yeah. Uh no. And the other big key, I think, is to just be consistent. Because I get all the time like, my kids won't eat fruits and veggies. And I'm like, well, if they aren't used to it six days of the week and then one day you try it, yeah, of course they're not going to be. So let's be consistent. They know every morning they get a fruit, or every dinner there is a fruit and a veggie with your meal. And maybe the first week, two weeks, three weeks, I don't know, month, they're just picking at them or don't even pick at them, but they know they're there and finally they'll start being a part of their diet.

Dr Pompa 49:17

Well, you know, having the the this green product that you're developing is smart too, because that can be added to the protein. If you send your kid out the door with a a shake that you dial in that they like, and your stuff tastes great. So thank you. You know, I mean, the my our baby loves it, but it's like, you know, they're going to be able to get it in one simple thing. It's fast, it's easy, you know, and it's clean. Yeah. Um, because again, a lot of those greens, uh, you know, I I don't trust it, I don't like any of it. So and by the way, I don't even think a lot of it's very nutritious. I I I think it's, you know, it sounds really good, but in the end, if you measure the nutrition, it's too little to matter.

Karalynne 49:57

Yep. That's what I was talking with that broccoli flora. I was like, this marketing is so misleading. But then I do want to tell parents also of one other thing. Um, sometimes people will say this is all so expensive. And I'm like, then do all the things that are free. Focus on, you know, better sleep. Focus on breathing then if you're so stressed. Go for a walk every day, get some vitamin D if you're, you know, move your body. There's so many things out there that we can do that doesn't cost more. Um, and even buying more fruits and veggies rather than so much processed food actually will lower your uh grocery bill. So just lots of different tips for people out there that lifestyle factors matter just as much as the food does.

Dr Pompa 50:39

Yeah. I mean, and then there's the some the things like invest $500 into a reverse osmosis system, right? I mean, a cheap way to filter out your water has all these bad hormones in it. It has fluoride, chlorine, a lot of other chemicals you don't even know about heavy metals, we can keep going. It's like change that. Your kids don't know, right? Matter of fact, they'll actually say one day, gosh, this water tastes better. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you shouldn't be drinking tap water. I mean, these are the things, the big things that people can do right now, right? I mean, like you said, I mean, if you just work on one little thing at a time, like you said, you know, it's like bring in, you know, get that shake that your kids like and start in, you know, the nutrition. Change your ketchup if your kids love it, right? Be slick about it. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, find those things that your kids love and figure out a replacement.

Karalynne 51:28

Well, and I also tell people, or find a replacement for the thing that's eaten the most in your home. Because I was speaking one time and this lady was like, oh my gosh, my kids eat so many fruit snacks. And I'm like, well, who's purchasing them? And she's like, Well, me. And I'm like, exactly. So find a fruit snack then made with real fruits rather than all the artificial stuff. So comes back to what you were saying earlier. You have the choice. Yeah. Be in control of the choices. You're the gatekeeper of what comes in your home.

Dr Pompa 51:55

Absolutely. And by the way, the earlier you earlier you start kids on healthy real food, the more they desire healthy, real food. And when they taste the crap, they go, oh, that doesn't taste right.

Karalynne 52:07

I got it.

Dr Pompa 52:08

So earlier is better. So, you know, and I can tell you this my kids, that's the way we raised our kids, right? When they got to be, you know, finicky little snotty teenagers, right? It's like they went out and they wanted to be like their friends and they started eating the kids. But you know what? I let them. I did too. I didn't make one bona bite. Yeah, it's uh it's up to you now. See, because I think if you if you try to squeeze your kids when they're teenagers, you're gonna lose that battle. If you go, no, no, no, it's up to you now. Every one of my kids came back. All five.

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Karalynne 52:37

All of them. Well, I have a funny story because one of my teenagers, when he got to probably like 16, the kids were always leaving campus to go um, you know, to a fast food restaurant to eat. And so he's like, I really want to try McDonald's pancakes. And I was like, Well, I can't stop you. You're going with your friends. I would choose otherwise, you know. So one day he gets the McDonald's pancakes. He comes home from school and is like, Mom, I am so sick. My head is pounding, my stomach hurts. And I figured out that those pancakes had it was like 112 grams of sugar or something like that with the syrup. And he's like, I've never eaten that much sugar in one sitting in my life. I feel terrible.

Dr Pompa 53:17

Probably went up and went to bed because he was so tired. Glucose up, screw crash.

Karalynne 53:21

So I don't think he's ever had McDonald's pancakes after that. So they do learn and they realize that they feel better on real food rather than the crap food. But I have to tell you, my oldest was like eight and nine, or eight or nine when I started my health journey because I had the three kids when I um fell into the depression. And so my oldest was the hardest to convince, like to move over. Yes. Where my little 11-year-old now, the other day, my older kids were like, Do you know what a Twinkie is? And she's like, A Twinkie? What's a Twinkie? And they're like, Mom, she doesn't even know what one is. I'm like, nope, she doesn't.

Dr Pompa 53:56

So that's that's so funny. So this happened to me, right? I was raised on actually really Italian home cooked food, right? My mom was the cook in the, you know, the family. I say the family, meaning like even cousins would come over. My mom was really good. So I grew up on amazing food. I never ate fast food, right? It's like, so I just didn't do that. I mean, again, I grew up in the 70s and 80s. I ate a lot of it. Yeah.

Karalynne 54:20

That's why I had the problems.

Dr Pompa 54:22

Yeah, exactly. I was healthy until I got mercury poison, another story. But anyway, so in college, my kids were like, or my kids, my friends were like always intrigued I never ate McDonald's, right? So they paid me $20, which was a lot back then, um, probably like $100 today, to eat a McDonald's Big Mac, or I can't remember which one it was. But anyways, I ate it. And we were at state college, and I didn't even make it across the street. I threw up Oh, funny.

Karalynne 54:52

And they wanted their money back. Wow. I'm like, no, I you didn't say anything about that. Your body was my body rejected it. Yes, it did.

Dr Pompa 54:58

So I mean, that's the the point. These kids today, my gosh. I mean, if you saw what's in McDonald's, and by the way, McDonald's was different back then. Yeah, probably ingredients this long. Today it's it's like this, right? And compared to Europe. Yep. Talk a little bit about that because um my assistant sitting over here, I keep using her, but she just went to Europe. She got the Skittles because I told her to buy some food, right? And ingredient list, very short, no artificial dyes. Well, they use dyes, but it come came from beets, spirulina, turmeric. Yeah, exactly. And I think pomegranate. And anyways, so but she said, Oh my gosh, they tasted better. They tasted more like real food. Real food, yeah. So she ate them all. So all I got was the bag. But I was comparing, it was a vast difference.

Karalynne 55:42

Yeah, I'm hoping with this whole Maha movement that we're going to look more like Europe, but those ingredients have been banned for, I mean, they've in the beauty industry, they've banned like 1300 chemicals, where we've banned 11 chemicals. And so um in Europe, if they think they're going to do harm, they ban it. Where here in America, you have to prove that they are going to do harm or that they've done.

Dr Pompa 56:04

It takes years and years.

Karalynne 56:05

It takes years and so much money and ridiculousness. Um, and so yeah, I was just in Europe this summer and I have a really hard time with gluten. And I tried it there and I did great. And that's a whole nother conversation of how they do their bread there versus how we do our bread here.

Dr Pompa 56:21

Yeah, moms, listen up because to your point about pizza and bread. Okay, if you use the Italian flour, uh the double zero Italian flour, you can buy pasta in the Italian flour. It has to come from Italy, right? It has to be absolutely, you know, Italian flour. You can now change your pizzas out, and your kids will have a completely different experience. It's very different.

Karalynne 56:43

It probably doesn't have the glyphosate on it. No, it's outlawed.

Dr Pompa 56:46

Glyphosate is outlawed there.

Karalynne 56:47

And glyphosate to a lot of people acts in their stomach like uh a gluten sensitivity. So a lot of these people that think they have a gluten sensitivity, they might have a glyphosate sensitivity.

Dr Pompa 56:57

It causes immediate inflammation in the gut. And problem is it opens up the gut, it interferes with something called zonulin. Yep. And when it opens up the gut, now the gut's staying open, and now you start reacting to the proteins like gluten, casein, and a lot of histamines, plant, even plant toxins today that people shouldn't react to. They do. And it's because their gut's open and glyphosate opens up the gut barrier. And it also opens up the blood-brain barrier and allows toxins to accumulate in the brain. And now you're brain fogged with anxiety.

Karalynne 57:28

Yep. And I think most Americans. Yep. I think most Americans are dealing with leaky gut in that.

Dr Pompa 57:34

Outlawed glyphosate in most of the European countries, Mexico, it's outlawed, not here.

Karalynne 57:40

Well, and also in Europe, though, we have all these quick yeast rise, you know, things that our dough has risen in two days. I mean, two days, in two hours, where in Europe they still do a slow rise for their yeast, which then breaks down um phytonutrient or phytic acid, it breaks down some of the gluten if there's gluten in there. It just does it pre-digests a lot of starches. It does a lot of good that will help your body handle it better.

Dr Pompa 58:04

Wow. So it's saying if you make your own flour like they do in Europe, right? It's just it's the slower rise which processes in so does making sourdough.

Karalynne 58:15

Sourdough. So it's similar to sourdough over in Europe.

Dr Pompa 58:18

It does the same thing. So if you can't eat bread or you react to you know these things, try sourdough, you know, and again, the European flour. Exactly. You know, slower, slower rise, which is the old-fashioned way of making bread. Bread should have three ingredients, by the way. Right. Three ingredients.

Karalynne 58:33

I always say, let's just cook food how we did in the 1800s. Like they made amazing bread that was nourishing for them.

Dr Pompa 58:39

Yeah, so you can make the argument that like white bread is processed. Okay, I'll give you that. It's it's a grain processed down. But when it has three ingredients, you know, there's still value there versus a super ultra processed food, which as bread has this many ingredients. Go to your grocery store. When you see the ingredients this long, that's a super processed food, very different than what we grew up on.

Karalynne 59:02

The homemade is better, the better choice is what I try to teach people. It might not be the perfect choice because you're using a white grain, but you could make it an even better choice by using a different grain, using the camot or using spelt or something.

Dr Pompa 59:15

More of one of those ancient grains and using the whole grain itself.

Karalynne 59:18

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 59:18

Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I I think that's, you know, what I'm hoping people hear, right? It's like you can look at the you said it best. You said look at the things that are eaten most in your house and figure out the replacement. And there's in today, unlike even five years ago, there's a better choice.

Karalynne 59:37

There is, which is crazy because when I started this like 15 years ago, people one thought I was crazy, but two, you had to go to like Whole Foods or something like that. Where now you can go Kroger, Costco, Walmart.

Dr Pompa 59:48

Everywhere. And you know, I I still think you need to be an educated consumer watching a page like yours. Because when you go to Whole Foods, if you look at, you know, the people's shopping carts, really what you see there is um, you know, healthy junk food. Yep. You know, so all right, less chemical junk food, but I would argue like, you know, you still gotta buy those fruits and veggies and you still gotta go around the perimeter.

Karalynne 1:00:14

Exactly.

Dr Pompa 1:00:14

It's like you know, you can't get through the aisles, you know, but the perimeter is still wide open because that's where your fruit, vegetables, and grass-fed meats are.

Karalynne 1:00:21

But at least they have some standards in order to sell in there. So it is a out of that good, better, best, at least you're gaining some other choices.

Dr Pompa 1:00:30

Yeah, and and I think, like I said, I mean, replacing your condiments and things like that, they there's so many alternatives today. And then let's talk about again, really quick with the shampoos. You know, get the it's really get the fragrance out of that stuff. There's all your hormone disruptors. And this is a pet peeve of mine, what people are washing their clothes with because I smell them.

Karalynne 1:00:54

I don't like that industry.

Dr Pompa 1:00:57

Yeah, because that is really bad. And in all the fabric softeners, like I hate it all.

Karalynne 1:01:04

It's so bad. The byproducts, and okay, so you don't have to list byproducts on your label. That's another reason that we're in business, is because I was so tired of all the byproducts or the manufacturing aids that are out there that you don't have to list on your label. And the laundry soap is one of them with byproducts that are just they're cancerous, they're endocrine disruptors, they're complete toxins, and we don't even have to list them on the label. I want, can I tell you a quick story about trying to come out with a cleaning supply? So we came out with a cleaning supply that was clean. Well, we didn't come out with it because we spent the 30,000. Did you have a laundry detergent? Not yet.

Dr Pompa 1:01:39

I didn't think so.

Karalynne 1:01:40

But this cleaning supply, we spent $30,000 to get an EPA registered. And I fought with the EPA over and over because I wanted to list every ingredient on in the solution, and they would only allow me to say 99% um other ingredients, 1% active ingredient. They would not let me list what the other ingredients were. And so I was like, I can't. My company is based on transparency. We put what's on the label and the EPA. What was it to them? They because then they might have to make other companies show what's on their label. And on cleaning supplies, you look on all of them. It's 99% other ingredients.

Dr Pompa 1:02:16

Wow.

Karalynne 1:02:17

And no one lists what's in there.

Dr Pompa 1:02:18

Yeah, so that's the problem with you know these cleaning supplies. Oh, and by the way, they end up in your food, they end up in your body, right? Because it's you're putting food on counters, you're doing, you know, your kids are touching them. A lot of those endocrine disruptors are transdermal. Yeah, that's what I hate about the laundry detergents. Yep. You're not only smelling it, you're wearing it, and those chemicals are going through your skin. How do you put on hormones oftentimes transdermally? So those chemicals are going right in. So when people say, What is the number one thing I should replace in my house? I'm like, fragrance, but that means shampoos. It's like, yeah.

Karalynne 1:02:51

Well, because those dryer sheets, too, you're smelling that the whole time while there's those clothes are spinning in the dryer. So it's not just that it's on your clothes, it's also that you're inhaling it as well.

Dr Pompa 1:03:00

Smell outside. I did a video walking down the street. I didn't mean to do the video. We were walking our dogs. And I said to my wife, I can tell you the homes right now that have weight loss resistance, obesity, and hormone problems. She's like, How do you tell that? I'm like, that one does right there. Oh, and that one three back there. How do you know? I said, because I could smell what was coming out of there. I do. I smelled their home when I walk by their home because their dryer was putting out, they were using fabric softener. And trust me, folks, it causes weight loss resistance, hormone disruption. It's like, and all you have to do is buy a different product.

Karalynne 1:03:35

Yep. But people don't know that. That's the problem. They're like, oh, dryer sheets are uh sold at the store, so it should be fine. And they have no idea.

Dr Pompa 1:03:43

Yeah, but if you just tell someone that's toxic, they go, Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything's toxic, right? But if you say maybe this is probably why you can't lose weight, then now you might have their attention. In fact or causing your headaches, or why you can't sleep, or why you have anxiety because you're smelling this all day. Now you might have their attention.

Karalynne 1:03:58

Yeah. Well, and I try to teach, like, well, I just wish they would write on the label for those dryer sheets and the laundry soap what's really in there. That's it's criminal. There was a study. In Europe, do they have to? Um, I should check that they probably do.

Dr Pompa 1:04:13

I don't know, yeah.

Karalynne 1:04:14

But there was just a study recently done where they wanted to know what was in the dryer sheets, and so they tested the steam that was coming out, the air that was coming out to see what VOCs and things were in there. And it was crazy. It they found like, can't remember the exact number, but it was like 44 different ones.

Dr Pompa 1:04:29

Oh my gosh. Yeah, and I have to breathe your when I walk in my neighborhood, I have to breathe that air. So let's oh my gosh.

Karalynne 1:04:35

Let's just write though on the label. That's what's in there.

Dr Pompa 1:04:37

It's worse than secondhand smoke. You're pumping that through the neighborhood and your house and on your clothes. I mean, it's really bad.

Karalynne 1:04:43

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:04:44

Yeah. And so that's why pet peeve. I I always say, people always want to know that one thing. And it's because the the way what you do so well. It's like, where do I start? And I said, wash your clothes in something different and stop fabric software.

Karalynne 1:04:55

Yeah. There's so many places you could start.

Dr Pompa 1:04:58

Yeah.

Karalynne 1:04:59

But I in reality, I just wish Take plugins out. Oh, yeah. I I have a story about that. This lady, well, really quick, told me that she went to doctor after doctor for her kid for four years for terrible asthma. And he was doing steroids and all sorts of stuff. And one night she woke up in the middle of the night um and was like, oh my gosh, I think it's our plugins. She said she pulled out all the plugins in her house and within like two days his asthma was gone.

Dr Pompa 1:05:24

I would, you know, I have a little advantage because when I was, I mentioned I was chemically sensitive. And when I was chemically sensitive, if I was in a car that has those Christmas trees, right?

Karalynne 1:05:34

Oh, they're terrible. Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:05:35

And or a house or a room with an air freshener, I would be smashed. I'd be like, I can't think. I get irritable. I'm a so they get amazing. Again, I was a canary in a coal mine, you know, meaning highly sensitive, but it shows you the level of toxicity that's in there. And perfumes are another one in Columbia. Like to this day, if I smell someone with perfume, I won't react, but it's it's Repulsive to me. I don't like it because it it anchors back to like, I know how, but you're spraying that on, you're affecting other people. And then you're also, it's going right into your bloodstream. And again, they don't have to tell you what's in it.

Karalynne 1:06:12

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:06:12

IP.

Karalynne 1:06:13

But I love what people, as people get on a health journey, they'll tell me, like, I used to be able to do do perfume just fine and now I can't even handle it at all. And I'm like, well, good. You're that's showing progress in your health journey.

Dr Pompa 1:06:24

Well, it's like an alcoholic can drink a case of beer, right? As an example. You know, it's like, but when they get sober, all of a sudden, you know, they have one and they're smashed, right? It's like, yeah, your tolerance for all these chemicals goes up. But that doesn't mean you're not going to get cancer. It means you will with a better tolerance. Like, I don't get a headache, I'm fine getting cancer unknowingly, hormone problems unknowingly, right? Not linking your anxiety that you're medicating, unknowing your depression, right, with certain things, unknowing you are being affected. Yep. You just don't know it.

Karalynne 1:06:57

Yep. Which is the sad, the sad thing in America. And that's what you and I are trying to teach.

Dr Pompa 1:07:02

So this question is for Andrea out here, who runs my health centers, my doctor coaching, and she she's been her. Yeah, she I love Andrea. Um, she said, What are you doing on your social media right now? She loves it. It's um, you're doing like these live um, is she talking about our game show? What's going on in your game show? She said, Oh my gosh, make her tell it because people are gonna want to go to her thing just for that. It's so fun. And she was like, She told me I have to do it. I'm like, yeah, okay, I'm not her, but tell me. You know what?

Karalynne 1:07:34

This is called having a bunch of Gen Z employees on your marketing team.

Dr Pompa 1:07:38

See, they're so clever, yeah.

Glyphosate, Leaky Gut, And Bread Differences

Karalynne 1:07:39

They are clever. So, my question to them was how are we going to break through the noise of Black Friday? Because every company has a Black Friday sale. So, how are we going to break through that noise so that people will want to buy our products? And the next day they came back with, we're gonna do this live game show on TikTok live and Instagram live, and we're gonna showcase our products as people are doing different challenges, and we're gonna have flash sales where you can educate about your products, and it's turned into this big old game board that they have created. I mean, it looks very professional and it's got supplement slopes and protein palace. It's almost like a I can't say Candyland, but it's almost like that in life size um form. And so we have contestants at play, and tonight is actually the finale where someone wins $20,000. So wow. Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:08:29

Can anyone hop on and have a chance? Uh no, there's they had to be following along.

Karalynne 1:08:33

Um, well, so it's contestants on the game board. And so we started with 10.

Dr Pompa 1:08:37

Um, where'd you get these people?

Karalynne 1:08:40

Um thousands applied to be on this game show. So we narrowed.

Dr Pompa 1:08:44

So did they fly in?

Karalynne 1:08:45

Uh-huh.

Dr Pompa 1:08:46

Okay.

Karalynne 1:08:46

Yeah. Well, and some are local. Okay. And so um, yeah, so we're down to six contestants tonight. Just 10. So it went 10, 8, 6. So we only did it for three days. This is brand new. We just did it.

Dr Pompa 1:08:56

10, 8, 6, I think.

Karalynne 1:08:57

Um, and we'll probably do it later. It's been a great marketing tool. We've had thousands tune in.

Dr Pompa 1:09:03

I have to watch. I didn't, uh she did. But so what was the game?

Karalynne 1:09:07

Like what it literally is like Candyland.

Dr Pompa 1:09:09

Okay. Yeah.

Karalynne 1:09:10

But like they land on chance cards and have to do so.

Dr Pompa 1:09:12

They're playing the board. Yeah. Yeah.

Karalynne 1:09:14

As a human person moving the board.

Dr Pompa 1:09:16

How long does one episode last?

Karalynne 1:09:18

Four hours. Four hours of a live. Yes.

Dr Pompa 1:09:21

And you keep people engaged.

Karalynne 1:09:22

Yes, it's been thousands of viewers. It's been hilarious.

Dr Pompa 1:09:26

Oh my goodness.

Karalynne 1:09:26

But it's funny challenges that they're doing.

Dr Pompa 1:09:29

Whose idea was four hours? If some if one of my Gen Zs would have told me four hours, I'd be like, oh no.

Karalynne 1:09:34

Well, they left it the whole day, and I cut it down to four hours. Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:09:39

So yeah, see, my brain doesn't even go there. I'm like, you're not keeping anyone's attention for four hours. I'd have been like, listen, let well, 30 minutes. Let's get her done.

Karalynne 1:09:47

Well, this is how they get me every time. They're like, yeah, but you can educate about health on it. Every few minutes, you get to pop on and educate about health.

Dr Pompa 1:09:55

And so then so they're you're you're just said popping on. And who's running the game?

Karalynne 1:10:00

Um, two hosts that are hilarious. And so they're the MCs and they're running the challenges with the people, and it's pretty funny.

Dr Pompa 1:10:08

Oh my gosh.

Karalynne 1:10:09

It's honestly you got to channel your inner Gen Z to watch.

Dr Pompa 1:10:13

Oh, yeah. See, that's the thing, is uh that's why you have to have Gen Zs because our brains don't think like No, they don't.

Karalynne 1:10:20

Our brains don't think like what TikTok people do.

Dr Pompa 1:10:23

I would have been like, that's a really bad idea.

Karalynne 1:10:24

So they do it. I hop on to educate.

Dr Pompa 1:10:26

Yeah, that's what it would be in my department. Yeah. So my Gen Zs out there can do something like that. But I'll hop on and educate. Yeah.

Karalynne 1:10:34

Yeah, exactly.

Dr Pompa 1:10:35

Yeah, they would probably want me to um participate because I love games. I'm really competitive.

Karalynne 1:10:41

Oh, we should have had you on our game show.

Dr Pompa 1:10:43

Yeah, next week.

Karalynne 1:10:44

We should have had you.

Dr Pompa 1:10:44

You better.

Karalynne 1:10:45

They're doing all sorts of crazy things.

Dr Pompa 1:10:47

So we play Pictionary sometimes with our teams. And I I did a um, I was teaching uh, I did a virtual seminar, right? And my team came up with the idea of me playing Pictionary with like all the people. And like all that they got to participate a little bit, but it was with we had teams like right there. And it was a blast. Oh, that's fine. But I think it lasted 15, 20 minutes.

Karalynne 1:11:10

Yeah, maybe more than that. But well, they have lots of games that last like 10 minutes each, and then they move on to the next game. So anything from mental things to trivial things to physical things to funny things.

Dr Pompa 1:11:21

Four hours. Who's who's watching anything for four hours?

Karalynne 1:11:25

When you're throwing in some flash sales in there, they they hang around.

Dr Pompa 1:11:29

That's see, yeah, that was the key. They hang around for the bait.

Karalynne 1:11:33

Yeah, exactly. Keep them on their toes. Brilliant.

Dr Pompa 1:11:36

I know I don't question Gen Zers. I uh you know they're they're they're running my company, right? It's like my kids run my company. My son is my CEO, right?

Karalynne 1:11:44

So that's awesome.

Dr Pompa 1:11:45

Yeah, I mean it's like you know, they that's you just don't question them, man. Because with technology, yeah, they have advanced into things that we just can't understand. The marketing they understand we don't.

Karalynne 1:11:57

They grew up with a phone in their hand, so they understand all of that world.

Dr Pompa 1:12:01

Yeah, and it's different. Like, you know, we kind of were in the shadows of our parents and their relationships, and we had to go to college, this and that. Like, it's different to you.

Karalynne 1:12:11

It is different.

Dr Pompa 1:12:12

Yeah, kids can like start companies and they are. But here's the the we that's the advantage, the disadvantage is their health. Yep. My kids are extraordinary because of how healthy they are amongst their peers. No, and it's because well, there's a lot of reasons. They weren't vaccinated, they were born in home, and they grew up on healthy foods and now eat healthy foods. So they're exceptional for that reason.

Karalynne 1:12:36

Yeah. And hopefully, like I said, the pendulum is swinging that more and more are doing that. And I always want to tell parents, so it's not too late if their kids haven't started a health journey. Do you know what I mean? I don't want them to think like that's a really good thing. Oh, shoot, mine are vaccinated and shoot mine this. Start when they're seven, start when they're 40. Start when they're 20.

Dr Pompa 1:12:57

I would argue, even more important.

Karalynne 1:12:58

Right.

Dr Pompa 1:12:59

You know, because that's what's going to give them the advantage.

Karalynne 1:13:02

Right.

Dr Pompa 1:13:03

You know, so how do they do that? Meaning they have the teenager. You just answered someone's question, they're like, oh my gosh, I'm so glad she just said that. They have the teenager, what do they do? Where do they start?

Karalynne 1:13:13

Back to one little step at a time. And things so I always tell people their number one product they should buy is a water filtering system. And so yeah, and so do that, they'll never notice. Yeah, add more fruits and veggies, they'll never notice. That's the basic, simple things that aren't too overwhelming.

Dr Pompa 1:13:30

Yeah, and that's what people have to hear. Change the what you're washing their clothes in, yeah, they'll never notice. And then if you don't, if it doesn't have a fragrance, then when someone washes their clothes in a fragrance, they'll be like, oh God, that's horrible. But if you get them used to the fragrance, that's what they're gonna want. So yeah, exactly. I I think another tip that I would give is um podcasts arguably won the election. Meaning, you know, put it this way, for the first time.

Karalynne 1:13:57

And the younger generation, the younger generation.

Dr Pompa 1:13:59

Yep. So I would send your kids some podcasts and be like, hey, listen to this guy. You know, because kids will listen to stuff. They will. And they're gonna hear it from someone else, you know, that let them listen to this podcast.

Karalynne 1:14:13

Well, and the Gen Z generation loves podcasts, they're not listening to the radio, they're on the podcast every day.

Dr Pompa 1:14:19

Yeah, they're not watching TV, they're not what and they're listening to podcasts, things like that. So give them where meet them where they are, yep, and give them something to listen to. And I've watched, I I would argue that like all my young followers that find it's because they're on they're watching my podcast or they found me on Instagram. Send them Instagram videos. I I often say, send this to your kids.

Karalynne 1:14:41

Yep, exactly.

Dr Pompa 1:14:42

Send this to your kids because if they hear it, and then what's gonna happen? Social media is smart. If they watch one of my videos, they'll watch more.

Karalynne 1:14:50

Yeah, exactly. Or in or the algorithm will feed them more.

Dr Pompa 1:14:55

And then guess what? What works for negative, it works for positive because this is brainwashing them into a lot of things. I think you know, Gen Z though, they're they're more privy than we are. Like my wife and I will be like, oh, look at this, and my kids will be like, that's AI, dad, you know, or mom. They're smart. Yeah, they kind of know BS. That's why they're attracted to real things now.

Karalynne 1:15:17

And they're expecting transparency from companies too, which I love. They don't want the BS anymore.

Dr Pompa 1:15:22

That's right.

Karalynne 1:15:22

They're tired of the BS with health, the BS with ingredients, the BS of companies.

Dr Pompa 1:15:26

I I I couldn't say it how it is. Yep, I couldn't agree more. So educate them. Send them, send them the videos.

Karalynne 1:15:34

Exactly.

Dr Pompa 1:15:34

That's what you do. Any other suggestions?

Karalynne 1:15:37

We've covered a lot of them.

Dr Pompa 1:15:39

I know. I know. If there was one I I said fragrance, maybe yours is different. The one thing that every parent should get out of their house.

Karalynne 1:15:49

How about get out of their food? The one that I can't stand that is in so many things that the 20-year-olds are still eating is the artificial sweeteners. The artificial sweeteners are in all of the health foods and so or I should say in so many health foods.

Dr Pompa 1:16:05

It's true.

Karalynne 1:16:05

And I'm like, that those artificial sweeteners are disrupting the gut microbiome. That's right. And then people are wondering why they have hormone issues. And I'm like, girls, almost every single hormone comes through the gut at some point to be produced there, regulated there, you know, so many different things. Yeah. So you're messing up your gut, so then you're messing up your hormones. Your hormones play a role in your weight, right? And so I'm like, these healthy foods to help you lose weight, microbiome in your brain. Yeah, are actually hurting your weight loss, hurting your mood. So I just wish artificial sweeteners would be banned. And it's the one I'm trying to teach people to like get rid of.

Dr Pompa 1:16:40

Are actually people don't understand this, that it actually can cause weight problems.

Karalynne 1:16:46

Exactly.

Dr Pompa 1:16:47

And that's what people reaching for the diet Coke when it's more addictive than the regular Coke.

Karalynne 1:16:53

Yep.

Dr Pompa 1:16:53

And it's um it's one of those great deceptions.

Karalynne 1:16:57

Yeah. Or you've got like, I think it's the fit and healthier light and fit, light and fit yogurt that's full of artificial sweeteners. And I'm like, there's nothing light or fit about this.

Dr Pompa 1:17:06

Yeah, gosh, names. Yeah, names.

Karalynne 1:17:08

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:17:08

How about that off the subject, but it's why people get away with names for our energy. Okay. So the FTC went after them, okay, but it they were clever. They were like, oh no, that's not a claim because four-hour energy, that's a claim. People bought it because I want four-hour energy, but it was their whole company, it was their brand. Four-hour energy. Interesting. So they interesting. They won. Four-hour energy is still there. It's not a claim, but it was a claim. That's clever, isn't that clever? But I say that.

Karalynne 1:17:37

It's the marketing schemes that are out there.

Dr Pompa 1:17:39

Yeah, no, but I say that to say that, right? It's like that everything, know that you're being marketed to. Know that like when you're in a grocery store, like gluten-free right now. I do videos warning people about that. It's like, oh my gosh, it's like artificial sweeteners.

Karalynne 1:17:51

There's all there's inflammatory oils. Everything.

Dr Pompa 1:17:55

We didn't even get to that, right? It's like, you know, that's the other thing. Like, I'm like, gosh, just take bad oils out. They stay in your cells for, you know, not days, not months, years, even.

Karalynne 1:18:06

But then you got all the Instagram people out there saying we're crazy for talking about seed oils and that seed oils are just fine.

Seed Oils, Omega Ratios, And Rancid Fish Oil

Dr Pompa 1:18:12

It's crap. I've been warning people about seed oils before it was a thing. I know. Because I was reading studies showing that. And here's the problem, too, is that people get the messaging wrong. So it's omega-6 is not bad. Did you hear that? Omega 6 is not bad. It's not. It's a matter of fact, arguably more important, definitely as important as omega-3, both are good. But it now is the ratio. It's the ratio because, of course, we're getting inundated with that and it's rancid omega six. When you eat the seeds that you put in your product, you're getting omega-6. And it's good omega-6 because it's in the right ratios, but it's not rancid. It's adulterated omega-6, vegetable oil, corn oil, seed oil, all the that's rancid omega-6. And rancid omega-3 is just as bad, by the way.

Karalynne 1:19:02

Well, the problem is though, too, we're not getting enough omega-3s. So that omega-6 to omega-3 ratio is so off. As you know, like we're supposed to have a two to one, three to one ratio. And most Americans have like a 20 to 1 ratio. Yeah. We're just not eating enough omega-3s.

Dr Pompa 1:19:17

Because the omega-6s are everything they're eating.

Karalynne 1:19:19

Everything.

Dr Pompa 1:19:20

So I mean, uh, every vegetable canol, every product, even in health food stores, has these in it.

Karalynne 1:19:25

Yep.

Dr Pompa 1:19:25

So you're you, if you just ate natural, you don't have to worry about a ratio if you're eating natural foods. You don't. If you're eating grass-fed meat, you don't have to worry about a ratio. If you're eating seeds as a seed, if you're eating vegetables as a as a vegetable, you don't have to worry about ratios.

Karalynne 1:19:39

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:19:39

It's just going to happen. It's going to be in a natural ratio that happens in nature.

Karalynne 1:19:43

Or I tell people lower your ultra-processed foods and increase the grass-fed meat and salmon and chia seeds. It's all there in the right balance and the right rate.

Dr Pompa 1:19:52

And it's not adulterated. I love vegetable oil in vegetables.

Karalynne 1:19:56

There you go.

Dr Pompa 1:19:57

I love seed oils. There you go.

Karalynne 1:19:59

There you go. Yeah, I do. I've never heard it that way. So that was clever.

Dr Pompa 1:20:02

And by the way, I hate fish oil, and I stand very different than most of our, but I the evidence supports my opinion.

Karalynne 1:20:08

Because of how rancid it is. It's rancid. It's so rancid. Yeah, it's rancid. I've seen it in many supplements.

Dr Pompa 1:20:13

And if you look at Cochrane Collaboration, they look at all of they take 3,000 studies, making up a number. They take a large amount of studies, and then they through they figure out which studies are actually good. And then they it may not be 20, and then they evaluate the outcomes of those studies and they come up with a conclusion. Yeah. And every time on fish oil, it's it's not it causes heart disease. It actually leads to cancer, especially these types. I'm not kidding. So fish oil, again, it's rancid oil that's the problem.

Karalynne 1:20:44

Yeah. That's well, it sits on the shelf for years and years. You've got to get a good, reliable source.

Dr Pompa 1:20:49

And just because you go to Whole Foods, it's true. And if you eat at the what what do they call the food there, the live food or the buffet? Buffet, right? If you eat at the it's like all canola oil.

Karalynne 1:21:00

Yeah, a lot of it is, yeah. Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:21:02

I mean, it's like ridiculous.

Karalynne 1:21:04

I know. That's one thing I wish they would change.

Dr Pompa 1:21:05

Yeah, we've done videos there and we show the ingredients.

Karalynne 1:21:08

I know. I wish Whole Foods would cut out inflammatory oils. I know. And not even let products in that use them. Your store shelves would go like 50% down.

Dr Pompa 1:21:17

That's the problem.

Karalynne 1:21:18

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:21:18

I think that that that would be part of it.

Karalynne 1:21:20

It'd wake up manufacturers to change their stuff.

Dr Pompa 1:21:24

You know, you we when you go to Italy, you don't deal with the problem. Some UK, you do. A lot of Europe is changing to these cheaper oils. But when you go to Italy, they use real olive oil and everything. And it's uncut, it's perfect because they they really stick to the old way for different reasons, right? Uh they're probably stuck in the old way too much in some places, but but the fact is, is that you get quality food grown in quality soil, and that's why the tomatoes taste different. Oh, and by the way, that's why you don't see fat people in Europe unless they're tourists. You can tell the Americans from the Italians. It's true.

Karalynne 1:22:01

I know.

Dr Pompa 1:22:02

Yeah, by the way, they eat 20% more carbohydrates than we do.

Karalynne 1:22:05

Oh, I know they do. It's crazy. I was shocked by that when I was there. It's a lot of carbs.

Dr Pompa 1:22:10

Yeah. And people say because they walk, they ride Vespas, they're not walking anywhere. I mean, maybe in the little inner city.

Karalynne 1:22:16

Yeah. But well, back to your olive oil, though, it's real food that has the nutrients to heal and help the body, fuel the body. I mean, those that olive oil is so good for inflammation and things. And it's because it's real food.

Dr Pompa 1:22:29

Yeah.

Karalynne 1:22:29

So nature knew what it was doing with real food.

Dr Pompa 1:22:32

Getting real, even if it's 100% olive oil. A lot of it's cut, folks, by the way. So you have to know your source. But um it's really hard to get really good quality olive oil. Even some of the stuff that comes over from other countries, they give you the cheap stuff.

Karalynne 1:22:48

I know. That's why I have to teach though good, better, best.

Dr Pompa 1:22:51

Yes.

Karalynne 1:22:52

Because even the cheap stuff's gonna be better than that vegetable oil.

Dr Pompa 1:22:55

She raises a good point. Of course, it's vet better.

Karalynne 1:22:58

And then once you get really good at your health journey, then yeah, you and I and people further along are gonna go find the best, the perfect one, and share it. That's true.

Dr Pompa 1:23:05

I mean, you know, even the olive oil, and you can tell good olive oil because it bites you in the back of the throat, tastes grassy, right? Those are all the polyphenols. But um, even if it's not that oil, you're right, it's better than all the vegetable canola oil.

Karalynne 1:23:20

You gotta start somewhere.

Dr Pompa 1:23:20

Yeah. Avocado oil, they're saying, is so much of its cut. No.

Karalynne 1:23:24

I know. Believe me, all the followers want to know exactly the best one to buy on all these things. So I'm constantly reading about them, and you think you have a good brand, and all of a sudden they're not a good brand anymore.

Dr Pompa 1:23:34

Yeah, that is the problem.

Karalynne 1:23:36

So it's tricky, and this is where people get so overwhelmed. They just give up, they're like, we're done. Like we thought avocado oil was good and now it's not.

Dr Pompa 1:23:44

Yeah. So that that is the that is the problem. That's why, you know, I think the reason we buy avocado oil is because it's an oil that takes heat better.

Karalynne 1:23:52

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 1:23:52

I think you're you're safer with tallow, you know. Yes, I I think it does, it takes heat better, actually, anyway. Do you use tallow?

Karalynne 1:23:59

I do a lot, but then you gotta make sure you even get a good source of tallow.

Dr Pompa 1:24:02

Epic, right? Epic, which is a good brand. It's like I love that, but then what it was it the one that they they had high lead? Good figure it out. Just chat GPT it. But anyways, yeah, so there's always something.

Karalynne 1:24:16

Yeah, I was like, back to again, you can't be perfect.

Buyouts, Ingredient Quality, And Final Takeaways

Dr Pompa 1:24:19

Wouldn't you even answer any of my questions? Oh, that yes. I was asking them questions and they kept like that's right. Okay, so the she's right. So what had happened was is it was accused of having high lead and other heavy metals. So, and I looked at the test and I said, Well, wait a minute. I I always want to give a company a benefit of the doubt. So I said, reach out to them and and let me know what if they've done independent testing done, because I'm not gonna criticize their product when it could be said, just like I did with Mountain Valley, right? I tested it myself and they wouldn't answer us. Oh, so then I was ticked about that. So I was like, probably because weren't they bought by um General Mills. General Mills. That's why they didn't answer. If it was still the epic of the see, that's what gives the suspicion right there, is when they're bought out by a bigger company. So they didn't answer me. So then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna deliver the information that was handed to me, is that their you know, product potentially contains high lead levels. So here's the test. Yeah, go look. So they were bought out. So that's always anytime. This is she knows ingredients. Anytime a company, a supplement company, a food company is bought out by private equity, another, you know, bigger company, you have to be start to be a little concerned. In the supplement industry, it's really in vogue right now. They'll come in, they're gonna want your company. You probably already had offers, right?

Karalynne 1:25:36

They come in, they buy it, and then one of the first things they do to make it cheaper so they have better margins, believe me. I know.

Dr Pompa 1:25:45

And how do they make it cheaper? They have their big uh ingredient suppliers in China and India. And so they immediately take your ingredients, they get it from their suppliers in China and India, and they replace it and they just doubled profits. Yep. All their people just made money and they'll either resell. This is this is happening. Yeah, but the problem is is all the stuff from Indian China has lead, mercury, heavy metals, and other contaminants.

Karalynne 1:26:09

Rice powder sprayed yellow. Yeah, really, but yet on their label it says still says turmeric. So the consumer has no idea that it's been swapped out unless they see something.

Dr Pompa 1:26:18

This has happened to popular brands like Cellcore. I mean, like there's so many. Yeah, so um the moment one gets bought out, be suspicious.

Karalynne 1:26:26

That's all, and I do want to say there are some that have been bought out that are still fine. We have not been bought out. Yeah, that's right.

Dr Pompa 1:26:32

But that's why I said be suspicious.

Karalynne 1:26:33

Yeah, because they'll put it in their contract, like you cannot change anything. But the consumer doesn't know what their contracts say.

Dr Pompa 1:26:39

Yeah.

Karalynne 1:26:39

So the only way you know is if they are transparent on their website and we'll show you the third-party testing.

Dr Pompa 1:26:45

Yeah, yeah. So be suspicious and you know, ask questions if you love the product.

Karalynne 1:26:49

Yeah, exactly.

Dr Pompa 1:26:51

Are you ever gonna get bought out?

Karalynne 1:26:53

It's not in my future, yeah. But you know, energy can be negative.

Dr Pompa 1:26:58

I mean, if like you, because you knowing you and who you are, you'll probably have in the contract you can't change.

Karalynne 1:27:03

Oh, that's the problem. I don't want why you don't want to be bought out is because, well, one, investors hate our margins because making with real food is really expensive. Yeah, you're not gonna be your evaluation's not gonna be great. So they want better margins than what we can provide, but also mine is more of a mission. Like, I feel like I was given a second chance at life and I need to do something good with my second chance of life. And so mine is I really just want to educate people out there of like, look, you don't have to feel miserable all the time. You don't have to live in depression all the time. There's hope and healing out there. Like, get on a health journey. I know you'll feel better.

Dr Pompa 1:27:36

Yeah, and that's for me, it's a mission too, right? It's like, you know, we've already had you know, private equity. Uh you know, you you want to sell your business the answer is no. We don't even want people to buy in. And it's like, no, it's a mission. Yeah. Unless God takes it from me and brings someone else in, you know, it's like, yeah, I'm uh it's it's the easy way, but we're just trying. Help people a lot. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yep. Well, I'll tell you, you you brought a lot of good knowledge.

Karalynne 1:28:08

Well, it's stuff that you talk about, but maybe it's just another person saying it.

Dr Pompa 1:28:12

Yeah. Yeah. No, Carla, I think you have a um a very simple way to start, like for people, right? I I think it's because of where you started life, even different than me. Um, and I think it's, you know, I don't know, part of your battle, part of, you know, just your your journey that led you to, you know, how you teach it. And I think that's the beauty of what you're doing.

Karalynne 1:28:36

I had to I had to eat the crap food to know that others start there and that it's possible to not eat the crap food and get to a really healthy place in your life.

Dr Pompa 1:28:44

Yeah, absolutely. Where do they find more about you? Your products, give them whatever.

Karalynne 1:28:49

Yeah, so you can um find us at just ingredients.us on our website. I have a podcast as well, just ingredients. Um, you can find us on Instagram as just.ingredients, on TikTok, Facebook, all the places, just trying to educate everybody.

Dr Pompa 1:29:04

That's awesome. And you do a great job of that. So there you go. And uh listen, always like and share the show because we gave some great solutions. And by the way, these are solutions that kids want, these are solutions that moms want. So pass it on. Pass the information on. Thanks, Carlin. And thank you. Yep.