THEY ARE POISONING US AND THEY KNOW IT: TOXIC FASHION

Why Clothing Can Make You Sick
SPEAKER_00 0:00

Young women have an 80% higher chance of cancer than young men. We're finding the highest percentage of these chemicals in clothing over all consumer products.

Dr Pompa 0:13

I was born in 1965. We didn't have kids with cancer. Today it's so common.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

It doesn't matter if you're red or if you're blue. If you come for our kids, we'll come for you. He put male dogs in polyester underwear. The male dogs wearing plastic underwear lost virtually all sperm function. The greatest threat to national security is a sick population.

Dr Pompa 0:44

Could your clothing be making you sick? I would argue it could be, and it probably is. Well, my next guest is known as the clean clothing chick. All right, that means she's a female, but I'm here with Hannah Dunning. Thank you for being here.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Thank you for having me.

Dr Pompa 1:02

Listen, I we were just at a round table and discussing the things that are making people sick, what laws need to be changed. I mean, we were going at it. I was representing the Maha group, the board. And um, I tell you, I was fascinated by everything you were saying. Um, because look, I I've done IG videos on this topic, but you brought so much more to it. So that's why she's here, because she's gonna bring, she's the expert on this. Uh look, I would argue that most people watching this in my group's very healthy group, would not even close to understanding how sick, how hormone-disrupting their clothing is. I would argue, especially some of the athletic wear that's meant to be like more functional and all this, it's making people sick because it's on your skin all day long. You're hot, you're sweaty, and these chemicals are going right into your bloodstream. Women are trying to get healthy by taking more hormones or maybe biohacks, peptides, whatever it is. It's not gonna work if you're wearing toxic clothing, and that's your message.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

I'd fully agree with everything you just said. Absolutely.

Shein And The Oversight Problem
Dr Pompa 2:10

Well, that opens the show. But I look, I people are gonna hear what to wear, the alternatives, what not to wear, right? What to stay away from. Um, you know all that because you're the expert on this topic, not me. There's even a new lawsuit coming against Sheen, which is like all these young girls buy clothing from this, right? I've done a video on this, right? So bad. Okay, why is this Sheen clothing so much worse than even other clothing? I know Lou Lemon's being investigated right now from the AG uh Ken Paxton from uh Texas. Yep. But why is this Sheen even worse than any of them?

SPEAKER_00 2:45

Yeah, well, look, I mean, supply chains in the fashion industry are out of hand as a whole. So most companies have no idea what's in their own clothes, which is a huge, massive problem. And the bigger your supply chain is, so kind of in their defense.

Dr Pompa 2:58

They don't even know what's in their clothes.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

A lot of them don't. Okay. I would argue they have a moral and ethical burden to know. I agree. So it's not much of a defense because if you're selling a product, especially if we're talking about things like clothes for kids, which Sheen sells.

Dr Pompa 3:12

Sheen, all these young kids wear the stuff.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

And that's actually why they're getting in trouble, because we do one of the very few laws we have in this country around our clothes are lead limits in kids' clothes. And Sheen's lead limits, the lead numbers that they found, far exceed that.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

So that's why they're getting in trouble. It's actually really hard for these clothing companies to get in trouble, though, because our country has no agency overseeing our clothes. And I heard you say that. It's crazy. It doesn't even make sense. And then we also have virtually no laws federally. Actually, we have no laws federally around the chemicals in our clothes specifically. So, Sheen, anytime you have a big company like this with a huge supply chain and they're making super cheap clothes and they're moving quickly, it's a recipe for disaster. There's essentially no oversight.

Dr Pompa 3:55

Most of it, I'm sure, because of the prices come from China. Am I right on that?

SPEAKER_00 3:59

I mean, most of our clothes come from China.

Dr Pompa 4:01

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

Anyways, Sheen and otherwise.

Dr Pompa 4:04

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, I I did a video on that because I was reading about this, right? And I'm like, oh my gosh. And here, I'm so naive. So it was, it took my assistant, Hallie, who you you know, we were speaking to, to tell me, oh my gosh, no, like I all my friends buy their clothes from the, you know, from Sheen. I never heard of it, right? Because I was kind of sloughing off, like, yeah, I don't think many people are getting clothes from this. So I probably not a good video. She she laughed at me, right? Anyways, you know, and I I literally woke moms up to the fact that your kids are buying clothes from here because it's it's kind of mimicking high fashion. It looks really good at a really, you know, they're just not thinking about it.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

And and and to be totally clear too, most people have no idea the extremity of uh or the extreme chemicals

Xenoestrogens And Skin Absorption
SPEAKER_00 4:50

that we're putting in our clothes.

Dr Pompa 4:51

That's right. It is Yeah, and let's go there. Okay, you mentioned lead, right? Lead has a neurotoxin, obviously really, really toxic and dangerous, but it goes way beyond lead in these clothes, right? So talk about some of the chemicals that I mentioned at the top of the show. Hormone disruptors, big time.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Well, this is this is the crazy stuff that I think we're gonna see a whole lot more of when it comes to headlines, lawsuits, and just general public awareness, because most of the chemicals that they're choosing to use in our clothes are what we call xenoestrogens. So like parabens, so they mimic estrogen. They are fake estrogen, essentially. And the reason why that's such a big deal is because a lot of us think our skin's more of a barrier. I would say it's actually more like a brain in that it recognizes things to let in and it keeps other things out.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

And when your body is introduced, as you know, to a xenoestrogen, it says, Oh, I'm supposed to let it in.

Dr Pompa 5:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

So it's actually a way bigger deal than we originally thought.

Dr Pompa 5:48

Most hormones are taken transdermally. That's right. I mean, we rub hormones, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

It's exactly. And so what's even more concerning for women is the amount of estrogen receptors we have, especially in our breasts, in our uterus. Well, think about where we're putting oftentimes the clothes we see the highest levels.

Dr Pompa 6:06

Raws are more toxic. Right. The athletic wear, the leggings and stuff. Underwear. Yeah, underwear. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

And and we can talk about plastic too, but it's far bigger than just a microplastic problem. I'm more concerned about the chemicals we're adding to all of these things. And it's not just plastic.

Dr Pompa 6:21

And a lot of these things have forever chemicals in it. My most of my audience knows what that is, but it's a chemical that they use in stain resistant, water resistant, active wear because of how it interacts with moisture. Right.

SPEAKER_00 6:33

There was a crazy study done. They tested kids' uniforms, cotton ones. And it was in the US and Canada, 100% came back with levels of PFAS. Cotton ones. So people also think it's just a plastic problem. It's not. They're adding because think about it. You sell a mom a cotton shirt for a kid's school uniform, well, they're gonna if they don't know better, they're gonna say, Of course I want stain resistance, right?

Dr Pompa 6:56

So it's stain resistant, wrinkle more less wrinkle resistant too, right? So that's why they're adding it because it makes their product perform better.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

That's right. And and to be clear though, also, we do have some state laws against PFAS in clothing, and we're we're starting to see more attention with PFAS. The problem is PFAS is a giant class of chemicals, right? And in our country, we ban chemicals chemical by chemical. So, and we saw this with BPA, like with the baby bottles. We actually had moms, which is a testament to the power of mothers. They got together and they said we cannot have BPA in baby bottles. They actually got it removed, but they just replaced it with BPS. We're seeing the same thing.

Dr Pompa 7:38

And there's still phthalates in there and other problems.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

True. So, but the point is, is this is why we need far more attention and overarching federal regulations because we should be banning classes of categories, if you will, classes. That's right.

Dr Pompa 7:51

So, to your point, you know, BPA was a great example. It's one ingredient.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Right.

Dr Pompa 7:57

But then there's the BPS that's just as toxic, maybe more. Yeah, the list goes on. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

And and they they we even have a study. I think this one was out of China. They tested 32 children's socks, and almost 95% of them had BPA or BPS in them. So socks are another huge one that and that's not talked a lot about.

Dr Pompa 8:17

Get hot. Yes. And their feet are very absorbent. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

So that's another area where I would say if you're if you're just now learning about your clothes, you should focus on your bra, your underwear, and your socks and socks.

Dr Pompa 8:29

That's great. That's great advice right there. Yeah. So, like for your kids, it's like if you're gonna get a you know, an organic cotton, you know, those three areas are the key, or an organic material.

PFAS In “Cotton” And BPA Socks
Dr Pompa 8:40

Yeah, the cot.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

So this is like, I always say this is the hardest part of my job because it would be so much easier for me to be like just go buy organic. But unfortunately, when it comes to organic cotton, that's only talking about the growing process, which is a big deal for our water sows.

Dr Pompa 8:55

If you buy organic cotton socks, they're allowed to add PFAs after the fact to make their product perform better. That sucks.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

So, but what you can do, I can tell you what you can do, there is a certification that helps. And and this is overwhelming information, which is why we're fighting for regulation, just to be clear. Like we're working our butts off to change this, and there is hope. But in the meantime, what you should be looking for, the best thing we have on the market is GOTS certified organic cotton.

Dr Pompa 9:23

Say it again.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

Gots G O T S Global Organic Textile Standard. And so what they are doing is a third-party certification, and it's not perfect.

Dr Pompa 9:30

So that's beyond organic. GOTS means there's been nothing, it's coming to you clean.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

They're they're testing for a list of the most popular harmful chemicals to make sure that that product doesn't have a certain level of them.

Dr Pompa 9:41

And that's so then it's certified GOTS. You know, you're getting a product, the underwear, the bra, socks that are clean.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

That are better, right? Nothing's perfect because to be clear, our supply chains are just all kinds of messed up, but they are significantly better. And we're focusing on lowering.

Dr Pompa 9:56

I've never shopped and saw GOTTS.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Right. That's the online, it exists. It's becoming more and more common, but you're exactly right.

Dr Pompa 10:04

I will say So can you buy, I'm sorry, can you buy bras, underwear, and socks online that say GOTS organic?

SPEAKER_00 10:10

You can online with the caveat of a woman's bra, they have not yet figured out how to make a t-shirt bra without that harmful polyurethane foam. So that's what we're working on. We're not to be salesy, but we're launching it this fall. It took us two years to come up with the alternative.

Dr Pompa 10:28

And that's fair because if you can't find it, it do it, damn well better someone better create it.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

But isn't that insane that it's 2026 and a woman can't go find a clean t-shirt bra? Like that's so wrong.

Dr Pompa 10:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

And we can talk more about it.

Dr Pompa 10:42

I'm a guy. What do you mean t-shirt bra?

SPEAKER_00 10:43

Yeah, so any bra with a cup inside of it with some shape. So it anything else would be more of like a bra.

Dr Pompa 10:48

Why do we call that t-shirt bra?

SPEAKER_00 10:50

Well, it's just the name for the common bra. It's like you throw it out under a t-shirt.

Dr Pompa 10:53

How is that different than an uh because you wear it under t-shirts?

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Well, it's just not a push-up bra. It's just the marketing term. Yeah, yeah. Don't worry too much about that. Yeah, yeah, don't worry too much about that.

Dr Pompa 11:02

I was just naturally curious, though.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

And the bra thing is crazy because as you know, this is really interesting to me, and this is actually how my whole journey really got kicked off is I lost my grandmother who raised me to estrogen-positive breast cancer. And that disease is fascinating in the worst way because, as you know better than anyone, breast cancer rates across the board have declined dramatically because early intervention, we know more about the gene, except for the hormonally driven kinds. Yeah, they have skyrocketed so much that young women have an 80% higher chance of cancer than young men.

Dr Pompa 11:39

Is it still one in eight? I mean, I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

I believe that it's increased now. Okay, and but but we have an 80% higher chance of getting cancer versus young men. And that's because of breast cancer skyrocketing. So something in our environment is making women sick faster and more than ever before. And I'm not saying it's just our bra, but what I am saying is we need to be looking closely at the chemicals inside of them.

Dr Pompa 12:03

Is there this may not be your niche here, but um the on the wire bras, they block lymph. Yeah. So if you have a wire bra with a toxic bra, I mean, is that double trouble?

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Yeah, you know, there's conflicting research on the lymph. I believe that it's something that you wouldn't want to be wearing all day, every day with an underwire. And I think you want lymph flow, but unfortunately for women, most of us need more support and we just aren't, we don't have the technology yet to provide that support and also, you know, address the lymph thing. But I would argue that with breast cancer specifically, there's far more research around the chemicals being the reason.

Dr Pompa 12:42

No, no, no doubt about it. And and again, you know, bras have more of these chemicals for multiple, multiple reasons. Oh my gosh. You know, and those tissues in that area very sensitive to the estrogen receptors. Estrogen receptors, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

So when those fake estrogens enter and your body says, yes, they're supposed to be here, your estrogen receptors look actively for them and bind to them. What happens, as you know, when fake estrogen binds is it gives the wrong message. Yeah, and that's where disease can proliferate. It's a big problem.

Dr Pompa 13:13

Yeah. This is a big problem. It's a modern day problem. Yeah. And I I think that why this show is so good, because you you have to give people alternatives, you have to tell them what to do. So she already did, right? The GOTS organic, but you have to go online looking for that. But to your point, there's no perfect bra situation. Yeah. These t-shirts are. Yeah, unfortunately. Um, but for the underwear and the socks, you can find the GOTS organic.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

And I would say there's another certification, it's called Ocotex,

Start With Bras Underwear Socks
SPEAKER_00 13:40

O-E-K-O-T-E-X.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Um, that can be also that's another great alternative. It's not as good as GOTS because you can still classify plastic as an Ocotex. So GOTS has to be an organic natural material. Ocotex can be anything that's tested against the most common harmful chemicals. But I would argue plastic alone, even without the chemicals, there's incredible research on the electrostatic capabilities of plastic, which we can talk about because it's a big deal for men.

Dr Pompa 14:07

But plastic itself is just Well, I mean, I I found underwear that didn't have the chemicals, the plastics. Yeah. Same reason, you know, gonaddle tissue here is you know very absorbent. Um, and my kids, I mean, that I challenge them, you know, my son Isaac, uh, read it all. He did. And now he was like, matter of fact, he wants to actually design another underwear because he feels like there's no perfect underwear. He should do that. Just like the bra. Yeah. Because he was like, they're still in the band, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

Yeah, he should totally do that. There's so much room for innovation. And, you know, I work with companies on the supply chain side too. And it's really, it's been fun in a way, depressing in a way, and fun in a way, because you know, we used to have to go into boardrooms and pitch healthier choices. And they would, you know, it's not a good financial choice for them. So they were like, no. Now, with this market and the awareness, we can go in there and make a business case. So change is coming and they see that. So it's that's good news. Yeah. And that's why you're seeing a lot of companies independently go out on their own to make better choices. Yeah.

Dr Pompa 15:04

So well, that's why it it all starts with educating the the public because then they start wanting more. You create a, you know, a value for a safer bra underwear socks, and you know, all of a sudden now companies go, oh, there's a niche.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

Yes. Right? That's right. That's right. And that's why you'll see places like Target. There was in their baby section the other day, and most of it was Gots certified or Ocotex.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Target.

SPEAKER_00 15:27

They're doing a good job. Now, again, I would say they need to do better because uh their women's and men's and their even older kids section is abysmal. It's terrible. Um, and if I were them, I would require at least OcoTech certification to sell inside of Target. But yeah, we're we're seeing the change. I was also in Costco the other day. I found OcoTechs and got certified towels and bedding.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

So we're getting there. Wow, okay. You know, it's it's happening, but it needs to be far more prevalent. And that's also why we're working for regulation because we also need to help the people who can't afford to go buy.

Dr Pompa 16:00

So if someone could go into uh Target or um what was the other one? Uh Costco. Costco.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 16:06

And and say, hey, do you have these brands? They will know, right? Someone will know that, yeah, we carry GOTs in towels.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

You know, I wouldn't people know so little about it. I I actually don't know if you asked somebody working there. Yeah, you'd have to be able to do that.

Dr Pompa 16:21

Um I'm visualizing, you know, the people going in going, like, I can't find so you you'd think that somebody in the store would have a list of the brands.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

That would be a really good business choice on their on their side. But you know, it the the clothing interesting is so interesting because of how few people know about it. So you know Brian Johnson, the biohacker, right?

Dr Pompa 16:44

You know, all this money on staying healthy, and he was just recently diagnosed with um an autoimmune disease. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

Well, he I found really interesting. I saw a video of him. He gave his uh sleep protocol, and this is supposed to be like the upper echelon biohacking guy, right? And he said that he sleeps on 95% cotton and five percent silver sheets. Oh, yeah. So this guy's sleeping in heavy metals. Yeah. So and and cotton alone is extremely toxic, usually, from the studies that we have based on the chemicals they're applying. So uh even the biohacker guy doesn't know that cotton. That's right. Cotton is one of the most sprayed crops uh in the world. It's called the world's dirtiest crop, is the nickname. It's it's bad, it's a bad deal, and it's really bad for our farmlands, for our water, our air. It's a big deal.

Dr Pompa 17:33

We can't buy organic cotton sheets. Um, actually, this is a good topic because I sheets are a big deal. Like, I have the answer for you. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. Uh we make sure we have good sheets, but you know, do they make GOTS organic sheets?

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Totally. And I have this company, I was just in Japan with them last month. I got a hands-on, literally, I helped them dye a pair of their sheets with real indigo. So they're called Isomy, A-I-Z-O-M-E. They are using GOTS certified organic cotton, and then they're adding real plant dyes to it. And so indigo is a really, really interesting place to study because it's been used for millennia to help heal. And in fact, this company was able to get their sheets uh declared to be a medical device through the FDA because they proved that the indigo is interacting with our skin biomes. And even Japanese samurai used to wear indigo underneath their armor to prevent infection. So

Bras Breast Cancer And Estrogen Receptors
SPEAKER_00 18:26

there's a whole thing.

Dr Pompa 18:26

So they sell these sheets.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

Yeah, you can get them online. They're incredible.

Dr Pompa 18:29

What were they called?

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Isomy.

Dr Pompa 18:31

Izome.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

Yeah, which is it's it comes from the Japanese indigo dyeing processes called Isomy.

Dr Pompa 18:37

Oh wow. So are they soft? What's the thread count? My wife's gonna ask me all these questions. I don't know the thread count.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

So don't but they're I sleep on them every night. I'll never go back. I always say, like, if you love your mom, you should send her these isomy sheets. It's that good.

Dr Pompa 18:50

We we sleep on these Italian wood fiber sheets, right? You know, because it's it's trees, right? You don't spray trees, right? Uh you know, they're very clean, but they're soft, and it's like a thousand thread counts.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah, the Lyosel industry is a really interesting bamboo, it is notoriously very toxic because of carbon disulfide, which is used to treat, you know, 95% plus of all bamboo on the market. So those bamboo, those soft baby PJs made out of bamboo, not good. Typically not the thing I'd want to put my kid in. Um, but Lyosel is a really interesting emerging um market where they're using eucalyptus trees, and they're the solvent is a non-toxic chemical that's tracked. That's right.

Dr Pompa 19:32

You need the solvent has to be good.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

The solvent for for any tree or or plant-based, yeah.

Dr Pompa 19:37

Is there an argument for I washed my bed sheets for the last year and or my t-shirt? And a lot of the chemicals are out.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

We have a lot of research around this. For some chemicals, yes, it will meaningfully reduce them. So, like formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is meaningfully reduced when you wash it out. Unfortunately for us, most of these xenoestrogens and then like PFAS cannot be washed out. There's no meaningful difference.

Dr Pompa 20:03

Yeah, PFAS, I mean, that's what they do. They're like resistant.

SPEAKER_00 20:06

That's right. And most of these chemicals are hydrophobic. So they hate water. Yeah, so they stay in the fibers. It's a it's a really big issue. And then, furthermore, think about what detergents most people are using too. Oh they're just pumping, you know, carabens back into the clothes, right?

Dr Pompa 20:22

I tell them all the time the number one thing you can change uh in your home is what you're washing your clothes and your sheets in. Why? Because you're the hormone disruptors going into your clothes and then transdermally going into you all day and all night because of the sheets.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

I saw the craziest thing literally today on my way here. I've never seen this in my life. Maybe this is a thing in Utah, maybe it's popular, but there was a tide dry cleaning drive-thru. And I I sat and I watched these people pay to have chemicals pumped into their probably already chemical laden clothes. Oh, and like that was wild.

Dr Pompa 20:57

And they probably use that fabric softener that is like the warmth. I smell you coming if you're using it. I mean, I if you're in the room, I'm like, nah, something's not good.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Well, that's a good point because that means your body has gotten used to not having those things. So now you can detect that and react to it. And and with how overwhelming the clothing conversation is, it's important to know that just reducing these chemicals gives your body the bandwidth to handle, right? The chemicals you'll inevitably come into contact with.

Dr Pompa 21:28

Yeah, I say that all the time. I I use this as an example. So if I filled, I'm gonna be forced to drink a lot of water, I'll be choking. Okay, so give me your water. I'm gonna show this because who is going to be able to deal with more toxins? This person, where their toxic bucket is almost to the top, or this person. Yeah. Well, I can stress this one, look, nothing. But look, I stress that one a lot. Yeah, I just created a little mess there. So a little bit of stress and it's all over me. All that stress, nothing. So the point is that. Your clothing you're wearing, exposures every day, the laundry detergents you're doing, that's putting your bucket here. Yep. And now you can't deal with the unavoidable toxins because there's toxins that we're not going to avoid. You know, so one of the fastest ways to get your bucket down here, and by the way, cellular detox is what I teach, because a lot of these chemicals, just like you said in the sheets, they're locked into the fabric. They're locked into our cells. Totally. And my process is how do we get them unlocked from our cells?

GOTS Versus OEKO-TEX Explained
Dr Pompa 22:28

Because we bioaccumulate them from the womb to the tomb. So what you store up, you look like this. But you have to stop what's going in. And that's what you're talking about. Exactly. We made a real mess here.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

No, that was a perfect description. And what blew my mind the most when I started researching the chemicals in our clothes was that on average, we're finding the highest percentage of these chemicals in clothing over all consumer products, which really surprised me. I think we think, oh, clothing's not a big deal. It just seems kind of inert and it's just a thing. We don't really focus on. We're not eating it.

Dr Pompa 22:58

That was I'm I that was me at one point. But that was me. I mean, I'm more worried about what I ingest here in. Right. And I clothing.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Right, exactly. And especially when life's so hard now with trying to put clean food on the table, food alone, you know, now clean food. And then when you introduce clothing, most people are like, oh, that's ridiculous. But if they understood the kind and quantity as well as the percentage of the chemicals that they are putting in our clothes, they would think otherwise.

Dr Pompa 23:27

And again, I I think it's um yeah, you can have a bite of a toxin, but this is on all day long. Right. And again, focusing on our underwear, socks, bras, things like that, because of the areas, number one. Yes. And I I think it's right up against your skin, some of the hottest areas, too. Totally.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

And there's a study I think you'll find interesting. Um, this came from one of the world's most renowned urologists. His name was Dr. Ahmed Shafiq out of Egypt. And this guy was literally on record as the completing the first um bladder transplant plant in history. This guy was amazing. A thousand plus research papers published. You know, he went up for a Nobel Prize, and he felt like plastic alone, not including the chemicals, was inhibiting his client's sperm function and fertility. So he started a series of tests over a span of 15, 20 years that showed potential electrostatic capabilities when they rubbed together.

Dr Pompa 24:27

And this was the study that changed my underwear. I read this and I said, I'm done.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

I mean, it it was insane. And it went really viral for the dog when he did, right? He put male dogs in polyester underwear and female dogs in another study. The male dogs wearing plastic underwear lost virtually all sperm function, which returned later after they got rid of the underwear. And the female ones stopped ovulating. And again, it wasn't about the chemicals, it was about the plastic rubbing together. So it's kind of a double whammy. We have this potential electrostatic interference. It's a big problem. We need to talk about that more. That's crazy.

Dr Pompa 25:08

Yeah, no, but it changed that changed my son, too. So your kids out there, let him find that. So where would they find that? I can't remember where I someone sent it to me.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

The study? Yeah. Oh man, I mean, look up Dr. Ahmed Shafiq. He has rat studies, human studies. He did it on men because people were giving him a hard time about animal studies.

Dr Pompa 25:27

Yeah, I I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

Yeah, he has literally I think he has six total studies specifically around this, and he actually ended up uh suddenly dying of a heart attack a year before the last one was published around uh plastic and miscarriages. So he's a guy worth looking into.

Dr Pompa 25:42

Yeah, the plastic, again, underwear, right? You know, big hot spot there for miscarriages, um affecting male, but affecting female ovaries, uterus. I mean, those tissues are right there.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

Yeah, exactly. And what was crazy to me is even in, you know, industries like the medical textile industry, they have no regulations. So that's actually how my whole journey started is I had an allergic reaction to uh the medical underwear they put me in after my delivery, uh, delivering our son. I came out in this crazy rash, the shape of the underwear. I smelled it and there was this crazy chemical smell. And that's when I started researching our clothes. This is six years ago when when this whole journey started. But yeah, you can sell into hospitals and you don't even have to tell them what chemicals you're putting in their

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SPEAKER_00 26:28

textiles. It's crazy.

Dr Pompa 26:29

You know, people have to understand when we look at the explosion of chronic disease in the last 50 to 60 years, it is no doubt the chemical revolution that happened after World War II. I mean, that's when it all happened. And we thought our genius, uh all these chemicals, plastics went through the roof. I mean, all of it, every chemical. Humans were not exposed to the chemicals that we have been in the last 50 to 60 years in cancer rates in children. Since 1970, 67% rise in childhood cancers. Since 1970. I mean, I was born in 1965, and I can tell you we didn't have kids with cancer. Today, it's so common. I mean, it's like that's almost a 70% increase. What changed? Chemicals.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Absolutely. Yeah.

Dr Pompa 27:25

I mean, chemicals. And look at all the people hormone problems, right? It's like having to take peptides and hormones, this and that. I I keep reminding people, these things are fun, uh, you know, peptides, you know, hormones, it's like it's not solving anything. Right. It's not solving anything. You know, and and I know women are running to the hormones, and there's a time and a place, okay. I'm not being too critical, but I just did a video on women's lifetime exposure to estrogen. Okay. So that means that when a uh a girl would get her period at age 15 and she would get menopause at 50, what is that 35-year life estrogen exposure, right? At that level. All right. Then when they started getting it at nine. Right. And we know now that girls that get their period at nine have a far more greater chance of all these different cancers. Okay. Yeah. Now, what happens at 50, maybe even before? Women start taking hormones.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 28:20

They're ex you know, so I know they remove the black box, right? Yeah, because but they're not considering this.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

So true.

Dr Pompa 28:28

Yeah. And it's horrible.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

That's also a great point with the highest risk groups for these chemicals. Absolutely, preteens, when you're going through that pre-puberty or puberty timeline, and your body is literally writing genetic code at that time, what we're seeing is a lot of these chemicals are actually having impacts downstream later in their life based on their exposure during that time.

Dr Pompa 28:51

That's the thing, they bioaccumulate.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Yes. And on top of that, we're actually finding out that even in cases there's research suggesting that bioaccumulation may not even be the whole problem. It may just be a one-time exposure, which is so wild. Yeah. And the other group we're really worried about is pregnant women. The the studies we have around pregnant women exposed to these, like there's a study about parabens and pregnant women expect uh uh exposed the levels of parabens, the the male fetus offspring weren't developing their sexual organs the way that they were supposed to. So a mother's exposure can impact the fetus's exposure potentially. And so that's another huge concern of mine is pregnancy and maternity clothing. And unfortunately, the tests that we're getting back on these chemicals and these these categories of clothing show that they have some of the highest levels.

Dr Pompa 29:43

I mean, the amount the infertility has just gone off the charts.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 29:46

And you know, you know this is darn well playing a big part.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

I think all of these chemicals are absolutely the culprit for virtually every problem we have out there right now, to your point. The obesity problem, you know, the our the heart attack around the heart attacks we're having.

Dr Pompa 30:01

Yep. All of it. Every bit of chronic disease and obesity is a chronic disease. It it all of it is going like this parallel with the toxins. People have to stop what's coming in first. Right? I mean, it that's the one you can only control what you can control.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

Right.

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Dr Pompa 30:18

And you know, the clothing that you wear, you can control. Yeah. Right? Because I can't control the glyphosate spray off that just came across my neighbor just used, or whatever. There's certain things I can't control. Control what you can control. This is a question I, you know, kind of dicey maybe. I what do you think about like, okay, we have a very confused generation sexually. Right? The whole trans, everything, all this confusion. This didn't exist when I I'm older than you, right? So I keep going back. It did I'm telling you, it didn't exist.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Yeah.

Dr Pompa 30:49

Okay, like we just didn't see it, we didn't have it. We uh what could this be playing a role here? Because you were just talking about what it's doing as far as development.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Absolutely. There is a book, uh, it's called Estrogenation by Dr. Anthony GJ, and he goes into in detail how these xenoestrogens are absolutely, we have to say, likely linked to uh the trans, the the rise in people who think they're a completely different gender. And they have studies showing that this very same thing happened in rats. They started uh actually um, you know, interacting sexually differently than they were before. So, you know, it's a very controversial topic for sure. You're gonna get a lot of you heat from this, but the science is pointing to that being potentially absolutely a contributor.

Dr Pompa 31:41

Yeah, which makes you feel you know really bad for the generation. They have enough up against them. I mean, they have phones, you know, putting pornography in their face and different things and different eye constantly, right? It's like, and then they have this chemical assault on their sexual parts.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

It goes back to your point about the the chemical revolution during you know World War II times. We they had no, they accidentally created nylon. That was the first piece of plastic clothing that they created. It happened on accident, and they had no idea how that would impact bodies or how all of these chemicals together, of course, would impact.

Dr Pompa 32:18

Nylon's like in everything.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

It is, and you know, every year they release thousands of new chemicals that have never been tested on humans before.

Dr Pompa 32:25

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

So it's a terrible.

Dr Pompa 32:27

So how are they able to, because it's not a food, it's enclosed, there's no regulation?

SPEAKER_00 32:31

There is no regulation for the chemicals inside of our clothes other than a lead limit. And then we have some states trying to introduce, you know, new regulations like California with Prop 65, but we know that has all of its own issues. So what we're fighting for right now, we're we're looking to put a bill up around ingredient transparency law in clothing.

Dr Pompa 32:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

Because you know, big chemical, the industry is gonna, they, as you know, fight tooth and nail. They will literally look you dead in the face. You can go to the American Chemistry Council's website and you can see that they brag about creating parabens and phthalates and et cetera. It's like a selling point for them. So when you go and you say, okay, we're trying to prove that this chemical causes direct harm, oh man, they give you hell. But what you can't argue is that we don't have a right to know what chemicals are there, right? That's right. So it's a wild argument to tell an American citizen that you're not allowed to have the ingredients you're putting on your body.

Dr Pompa 33:26

Well, I look what I look what Bobby, our HHS secretary, just put through that I mean what's going in food was allowed, like all these dyes and chemicals you see in your food. And people say, well, how is it? It must be okay. How was it allowed to be there? Something called grass, right? Generally regarded as safe. Okay, but hold on a second. They didn't even have to prove safety. It's like, so it was just general, yeah, like you know, we've been doing it for whatever years, so it must be safe. It's not, it's cancer causing, but it's okay in our food. And we don't even have that.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

I would view the entire clothing industry as one giant grass. Yeah.

Dr Pompa 34:07

Everything's called generally okay because it's your skin, you're not ingesting.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

It's been accepted. Yeah, and they'll tell you that. They will tell you that. What are you eating your leggings, right? Like, but it's it's such a huge issue.

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SPEAKER_00 34:18

I always use this example to explain to people. Imagine if we didn't have the FDA. We know the FDA is flawed. You know, I have my own thoughts about certain things with the FDA, but if it weren't there, imagine what they would be putting in everything. And on top of that, imagine if they didn't have to list any of the ingredients like clothes.

Dr Pompa 34:36

Yeah, well, that's the point, is like at least with food. Well, uh you you buy a nappa wine and they don't have to put the seven any of the 76 chemicals on it. So it depends on the food. But it's so yeah, nappa wine is equivalent to the the clothing industry. But yeah, the clothing industry, all these cancer-causing substances, hormone mimics, throwing our kids into you know, hormone havoc, and they don't have to list one of them.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

That's right. And that's why what the Texas Attorney General is doing is really interesting.

Dr Pompa 35:06

Ken Paxton has done a lot.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

Yep. Absolutely. In the clothing space, they are absolutely rocking it. I mean, we have Lululemon, right?

Dr Pompa 35:14

A lot of people He got Lululemon investigated.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

They're investigating them right now.

Dr Pompa 35:18

He brought did he bring a lawsuit?

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Not yet. Okay. Uh, and who knows if they will.

Dr Pompa 35:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:22

But the interesting part about what they did sort of crack open is the idea that a company who's claiming to be health and wellness centered or or at least portraying themselves to be, uh, is misleading potentially consumers by selling them products that are potentially, you know, containing harmful chemicals. So if if we're talking to fashion companies out there, I would say, you know, be worried about the future. If you're not making changes right now and you especially don't know.

Dr Pompa 35:49

Yeah, you're gonna be in trouble. You could be in trouble. But look, I I I hope I don't screw this up. I think it's Stio that said by 2026, here we are, um, they were getting all of the forever chemicals out of their clothing. Now, I don't know if they did that. I you know, I did remind credit for making an announcement.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

It reminds me a lot of the sustainability movement. Anytime I see manifestos like that, it's really easy to say, oh, by 2020, whatever, we're going to, you know, because it shows you we care. Right. And uh more often than not, unfortunately, up until this point, it's been marketing. You know, we saw that with some of the stuff Patagonia did. There's a lot of controversy around them because they claim they were going to do all these things and and and didn't necessarily do it. So I anytime I see that, I'll I say, I'll believe it when you can guarantee me that these aren't intentionally added.

Dr Pompa 36:39

Is somebody going to all these athletic wear companies, Athletica, Stio, Lululemon, and testing them?

SPEAKER_00 36:47

No.

Dr Pompa 36:48

I mean, why not?

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Well, I mean, oh, you mean like an independent individual? Yeah, yeah, independent individual.

Dr Pompa 36:54

Because that forces the company to start testing.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

Oh, it's certainly happening more as we have these conversations. There's uh a woman, I'm gonna forget her last name. Her name's Leah. She owns um, uh, I think it's a nonprofit called Mama Vation, and they do independent testing of all kinds of products, including clothing. And they are the ones who have helped, you know, bring forward lawsuits based on chemicals they're finding in, you know, different athletic wear companies. So it exists, but I would absolutely argue we need to do way more testing of our clothes. And again, this is what I always advise, you know, companies who are interested in

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SPEAKER_00 37:28

doing better. You better move quickly because with these conversations, you better believe you are going to test your stuff.

Dr Pompa 37:34

Yeah, it it's it's happening. People look, people were sick looking for answers, right? That's right. It it's like in, you know, once they've exhausted every biohack, every diet, every hormone, and they're still not feeling well. Yes. It's like uh, you know, you need my program uh because we got to get the toxins out of you when you look like this. But um, they're starting, they're starting to look at the causes. We have all, you know, social media on the good side of it is exposing a lot of this.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

That's right. And moms. Oh, yeah.

Dr Pompa 38:01

You know, well, the moms are the ones you have to reach.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

I mean, I'm being and and to be clear, moms are the ones chemical companies and and large companies are worried about because we're the ones who won't stop at anything.

Dr Pompa 38:11

When we sat at that round table, I looked around, I'm like, oh man, I saw pretty cool. I saw powerful women at the table. There's a few me, but yeah, it was like it was the women that were moving the needle.

SPEAKER_00 38:23

Well, there's a biological response where the mama pair is right enabled. And and we always say this this is the thing is people love to try to make health political, right? And the thing is, is it doesn't matter if you're red or if you're blue, if you come for our kids, we'll come for you.

Dr Pompa 38:38

Oh, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:39

And and I actually have a cool quick story to share too.

Dr Pompa 38:42

We use that.

SPEAKER_00 38:43

It you should, because it's so real. It's like we don't care. And honestly, these chemical companies and other companies are using, you know, political politics and to try to sway people a certain way, but we see right through them. Because to your point, enough people have gotten sick where we're like, no, like we're we're gonna find an answer and it's not gonna be absolutely we were in DC for the people versus poison protest. Uh, that's when Bear Monsanto was trying to pass a chemical liability shield through the house and they didn't get it because of mom phone treats. It was mom. Yeah, we we activated thousands of moms across the states who are calling their own reps who they voted into office to tell them we're watching you. And it's if you don't vote the way that you know is protecting our children, we will make it our full-time job to get you out of office in no.

Dr Pompa 39:34

By the way, anyone is that is requesting a liability shield, you're guilty. That's right. So what that means, it what she's saying is is they literally glyphosate because the lawsuits are stacking up, not just with uh non-Hodgkins lymphoma, but like it's gonna start stacking up with autoimmune as well. So they're panicked. So what they did is they literally tried to get a shield, yeah, you know, so they could not be sued. That is guilt. You know who did that? Yeah, I'll tell you who did it. The vaccine companies in 1986, that's what they did because the lawsuits and they said, hey, if you want us to keep going up because we have all this money, we're gonna go bankrupt because kids are getting injured. And 1986, they got the uh Childhood Vaccine Act and they can't be sued.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

They pulled that page out of their playbook because they got our government to say that it was a national security problem to stop using glyphosate. Yeah. That's wild and it's very disrespectful.

Dr Pompa 40:29

Yeah. Well, and you know, in unfortunately, we have 97, 98 percent of crops that won't grow without glyphosate now. So if people always say to me, why can't we just ban it? We would have a problem. We'd have a food problem. We have to put our money into the soils. Well, and then we can start saying, okay, we don't need these dang chemicals.

SPEAKER_00 40:46

That's right. That's but that's why, you know, we even saw they called it the great American cotton plan that they put forth. And it was all about clothing, actually. And it was all about how we need to invest in cotton. And unfortunately, I believe that that was largely influenced by bear and and companies wanting to use more glyphosate because cotton is sprayed so much.

Dr Pompa 41:06

Oh, cotton's one of the biggest exposures.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

And it is poisoning our farming communities, who are some of the most impoverished and important in our country. And it's also inner city groups who can't afford otherwise. So it is disproportionately impacting those with lower income. But the thing about all of this is I would believe them about the whole national security thing or this being a problem if they said, and we're also going to invest in you know, regenerative and well, here's the good news.

Dr Pompa 41:31

You know, uh, whatever it was a month or so ago, Trump just signed billion-dollar executive order to put money into the soil because he's, you know, Bobby's like, look, the problem is that, you know, our soil crops aren't growing without it. We have a problem. We have to do this. Fact is, is Trump said, okay, let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

And that I believe is largely because of moms.

Dr Pompa 41:53

I think Bobby knows no doubt about it.

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SPEAKER_00 41:56

Yeah, Bobby knows that and and you know, and Bobby has done so much work to support moms too. Oh, yeah. So it that's why, you know, again, people always ask, like, why do you, you know, support RFK Jr. so much? And it's because he gets it. I'm sorry, he gets it. So um, you know, it it's we're fighting a big battle, and we all know this. I would argue it's not just a political battle, it's also a spiritual battle. There is so much going on, but the good news the battle's always spiritual. True, I I agree with you, but the good news is in I believe that good will always prevail. And I think it just to your point takes education and awareness in a group of people who are sick of being sick.

Dr Pompa 42:34

Well, that's a good way to look at it. And that's why you're such an activist. I mean, because you have you have that stern belief that, you know, the good will rise up, but I'm gonna help it, I'm gonna get it there. I do believe that.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Yeah, I very much do.

Dr Pompa 42:47

Yeah. So other what what legislations um have to change? I I mean, you said a few, but I I just I want to bring it to the surface again, right? Meaning like the they don't have to tell you what's in the product. So what are the chances of getting that to change where they have to tell us what's in the product, what's touched this product that's on your skin?

SPEAKER_00 43:05

Yeah, I think it's a pretty reasonable ask. We just saw New York State pass a period product care law, and they actually included period care underwear inside of that. And so if you were uh selling into New York State, you actually have to list the ingredients on period care underwear. So if you go to like um what again, yeah.

Dr Pompa 43:24

I I'm clueless. I period care.

SPEAKER_00 43:26

Yeah, so uh a lot of women are turning to underwear with absorbency capabilities versus tampering.

Dr Pompa 43:33

I didn't even know that existed.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

You know, it's actually good we're talking about it because they happen to be some of the most toxic pieces of clothing on the market because this is another good video. I totally well to get the absorbency, you need something, right? And polymers are really absorbent. So unfortunately, we have historically been finding high levels of PFAS and other harmful chemicals. So, as a direct result to that, they passed state legislation. So that is a huge precedent. And then Virginia just passed the same law or a version of it. So for us to pass that law federally, it's not an undue or unreasonable burden. It's already been done and they're already doing it in certain states. And it's, I would argue, long overdue. So I think that our chances are New York State.

Dr Pompa 44:14

New York State and Virginia passed that that basically what?

SPEAKER_00 44:17

That's period care products you have to list the ingredients.

Dr Pompa 44:21

But only period care products.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

Only period care products.

Dr Pompa 44:24

It's because someone showed how dangerous these are. Yep. How how much of these products being used by girls?

SPEAKER_00 44:32

Oh you mean like a hundred percent of the female population is using these products at least some point in there.

Dr Pompa 44:38

You're saying that they're built

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Dr Pompa 44:40

into the underwear though.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

Oh you're talking about period care underwear.

Dr Pompa 44:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

Oh yeah.

Dr Pompa 44:44

You know it's right period Yeah sorry.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

I bet the underwear specifically no it's a great question.

Dr Pompa 44:51

Like Dr. F that was the dumbest question.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

No, I mean listen I hey you never know um you know and actually it's a we can dive so but that they're making the underwear with this absorbing that's right and you know there's a huge I never heard of it so listen it makes sense for a woman from a functional standpoint in a lot of cases like when you're sleeping right or you know you want to play sports or you know there's there are arguments for it. It's increasing in popularity that's what I was asking. My brain's going like you know to people be look they're just trying to find new ways to use polymers. And so that is an easy application frankly. But again they were finding such high levels of these harmful chemicals they had to they were forced to address it.

Dr Pompa 45:30

So I think it's pretty reasonable to expect we can do the same thing federally I really do and that's why we're starting with ingredient transparency law because we don't have to argue this chemical causes this I got a video taken now off an Instagram without any war of good without any warning about period care products because I was talking about the amount of chemicals heavy metals and and they said you know no no science so I got a bunch of uh you know article here's the science I'm like there's tons of science so I sent it to them my team did and um they never said you know the apology and you know you know what I'm saying it was like well I was right there was science but they said there wasn't and anyway so I I don't know why I might I guess my question is is who's protecting this industry? Well like I mean I say a lot of things about a lot of products why did they come after me for period care products toxins?

SPEAKER_00 46:29

Well you know I think anytime they react like that you're probably onto something. I noticed the same thing with the medical textile conversation. Any anytime you get into like the medical thing or yeah period care products where notoriously it takes a lot of chemicals to traditionally make these they get nervous because if you go around sniffing you're probably gonna find some not great stuff.

Dr Pompa 46:52

Yeah. Unfortunately yeah I don't I don't recommend sniffing women's underwear but yes you're probably right probably a bad analogy for that one. For more different reasons than you may think actually there's a lot of bad chemicals there. But yeah so I yeah like I was like I found that very odd you know and again my brain goes hmm you know I smell a rat.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

Yeah exactly and we smell lots of rats in the clothing industry it's been something that has been very conveniently uh left alone. And so anytime you're poking on a bruise an industry bruise they don't like it and they'd rather you stop. So I think we'll of course and and we were just talking before the podcast started, you know, go to DC and and look at the lobbyists for these fast fashion companies and you'll understand very quickly you know how much is at stake here for them monetarily so they will fight tooth and nail even companies like Sheen or a Timu I mean you they've gotten in trouble globally over and over and over again and they just keep respawning like a disease. They have a lot at stake.

Dr Pompa 47:53

Yeah that that that and they're making billions yeah so they they have a lot of stake.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

Are companies like fashion companies contacting you saying hey give us some advice yeah I I actually think I have less problem with the businesses themselves and more of a problem with the chemical industry. Most people that I work with inside of these companies some of which you know we we've talked about genu genuinely have good intentions and we just didn't know. Like we just didn't know to your point earlier with the chemical revolution like we really just didn't know. We were irresponsible and now we're paying for it. So you know and inside of these companies

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SPEAKER_00 48:30

you also have a bunch of people typically who don't want harm you know bad things to happen to people who wear their clothes. So yes there's more interest there's more curiosity and I would say generally the fashion industry wants to be better you know but there is still a lot of pushback of course on bottom dollar like shareholder value.

Dr Pompa 48:49

That's when it starts to get a little you know like and by the way this is why you know lawsuits things like that legislation has to change because if you're sitting in a boardroom you have two concerns profits and risk. Right. And they're both discussed and then therefore what comes out is a balance right oh and by the way that's the problem with vaccine companies see they don't have the there's no risk. They can't be sued. So therefore it's just profits. Right. And you wonder why we get a vaccine schedule that looks like this. You know I did a video um celebrating the fact that we're going to be you know taking it down to these 11 vaccines like other countries who autism rates are coming down, spreading out the MMR, spreading out the doctor visits. It's like all of that is good. It's just like it's a political nightmare. I'm like this isn't political this isn't even vax anti-vax. It's like this is just we know that this is going to take side effects down massively. And this is a lot of Yeah you should see all the hate mail I mean it's like oh my God it but it it doesn't come from others.

SPEAKER_00 49:51

Right. Because they know well what's really interesting and like we could have a whole nother podcast on the politics but it's it I mean these the health and wellness concepts used to be a democratic value.

Dr Pompa 50:03

Yeah like m right?

SPEAKER_00 50:05

So it's really interesting to me that all of a sudden it's like ostracized as this like woo-woo conspiratorial I I did a video on Fauci and it was like the the left just came after me.

Dr Pompa 50:18

I was like I matter of fact I made the point in the video this is not a political thing both sides because it was disgusting to me that the Democrats that were there weren't ripping this guy apart too. It's like both sides should have been going where's the truth here you lied you did this did you even know that this thing came look how many people harmed it's like and yet people were defending this guy. I didn't even bring Trump's name up but it was like they were like this is a Trump thing I'm like I didn't even bring his name up.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

It's like Fauci just like lied man the the wild part about all of this is politicians when we just purely just are blindly allegiant to party lines, they get to do whatever they want. So it's important for us to realize that like you need to pay attention to who is voting for what because that's how we take control back as the people in getting your representatives to to honor representing you.

Dr Pompa 51:08

I mean listen the the left is not the left I mean the Democrats are not the same Democrats they used to be to your point they would take up these issues. Yeah right I mean weren't they the the you know the crunchy ones and all that it's like what happened? It's like and you know so why are you still over there supporting that? I'm telling you I would not be on one side or the other I would be you you go to where your values are what's going on there are large powers in control.

SPEAKER_00 51:35

I would argue a big you know power would be big chemical who want us to be politically divided so we don't get worked up.

Dr Pompa 51:42

There's no doubt about it. Yeah political divide in social media has caused it more than ever and that's where they're driving the political divide. That's right. You know it's like I mean my gosh it is my father raised me it's like whether you agree with the president or not you respect the office.

SPEAKER_02 51:57

Right.

Dr Pompa 51:57

So he it's like I remember him correcting people like you don't say that about our president. It's like even though he would have agreed with what they said like if it's disrespectful you don't say that. What happened to that? That wasn't that many years ago.

SPEAKER_00 52:10

Right.

Dr Pompa 52:10

It's like oh my gosh it's political divide.

SPEAKER_00 52:13

That's also why what we're talking about is so important for our representatives to hear to because the health conversation is a really big deal to the average person now. I think the last number I saw was 80% of Americans are concerned about the chemicals in our products.

Dr Pompa 52:27

Of course this isn't a political thing.

SPEAKER_00 52:29

Right. So stop pitting people against each other to make it political this is an American issue our people are sick and I would argue that the greatest threat to national security is a sick population. Absolutely and we can all care about national security right of course so there's no doubt about that.

Dr Pompa 52:46

I this should be I mean Democrats Republicans in independents we should all be lining up on all of these topics over vaccination over chemical population. Why in the world

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Dr Pompa 52:58

it's because of what you said the the the big pharma big ag all of it chemical they are absolutely dividing they're making it political don't buy into it fully agree. Yeah don't buy in because they're making it that way. So they have agendas.

SPEAKER_00 53:14

And I will say working with uh representatives on the hill, you know, I I see so much work actually getting done. That surprised me just as an average citizen who hadn't any government affairs or business ever before when I actually started working on legislation with our representatives I watched Republicans and Democrats care about the same stuff and work together. Absolutely but they don't give that airtime like we saw uh representative Congresswoman Pingree and Congresswoman Luna they put up bipartisan bills all the time against you know paraquat and you know glyphosate and um you know hopefully clothing. So it I just also think there's a lot of hope. The people care both sides care. It's just social media makes us seem more divided.

Dr Pompa 53:56

I I totally agree and and I I think that both sides will come together on a lot of these topics because at the end of the day here's the at the end of the day moms are driving this right moms do not care that you're Republican or Democrat. They're gonna vote for their children and their family every time men, we're not sure. But the women will make the decisions and it'll force one side or the other to come around. And on these topics with health I'm telling you women are going to decide they're gonna make the decision.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

Well we are disproportionately impacted by these chemicals and we are getting sick at rates far higher than our male counterpart cancer to your point especially certain cancers way higher.

Dr Pompa 54:35

So you know women absolutely are waking up and the fact that kids are getting sick today and need stimulants and medication like no time ever they're crying out for answers. They know it's the chemicals intuitively and they know it's the food, the water, the air they know the personal care products. So what they're doing is I mean that's why my social media blew up because I was just bringing problems yours too.

SPEAKER_00 54:58

Right.

Dr Pompa 54:59

Absolutely women 70% of my followers are women oh wow 70% they show you the stats. I believe it and that is because I'm bringing things that they are trying to find answers to.

SPEAKER_00 55:10

Yep. That's it. Absolutely and women make uh I think the last number was like almost 90% of all household buying decisions. Yeah right so that's a that's also a a a great message for companies too is the person you're selling to cares about keeping her kids healthy. Yeah. So business decisions it would make sense to make better products.

Dr Pompa 55:30

Absolutely absolutely so I have to say this I question right so we talked about we talked about bras underwear socks and understanding that that is the biggest impact. So and I I think people can handle that right like it gives but like I know what people even women are going to say yeah but they the blouse this this dress that you know I mean meaning like you know yeah I mean it's like yeah it's a big it's a it's hard like we can call it what it is it's hard and that's wrong.

SPEAKER_00 56:00

These these choices shouldn't be so limited or expensive just to you know not have again life altering chemicals inside of them. That's wrong.

Dr Pompa 56:08

Yeah I mean but you know these women want like when they get dressed up in golf they they want something nice that is I have options.

SPEAKER_00 56:15

So this is a good news kind of what I was going to say this this was the most the the probably most asked question I got of all when I started my Instagram account was okay but where do I go? So I created a Shop My, not to be salesy it was just the easiest way I curated my it's called Shop My. Yeah it's literally everything I have in my closet in one place and more of course but it's all hand selected by me for ingredient transparency and I have some pretty cute options I think there are businesses doing better. They're more expensive they're harder to find but ultimately we need to start looking at clothes as more of an investment. I think that would also solve a huge problem when it comes to these fast fashion companies her clothes are an investment.

Dr Pompa 56:54

Yeah but they're not making me anything okay they're not making me any of my I always talk about this too as like the moth thing.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

This actually went viral on Instagram when we talked about it because our grandparents had moth problems with their clothes. Oh good point.

Dr Pompa 57:06

Yeah so I joke about that why do like people talk about moths there's no moths right there.

SPEAKER_00 57:11

Oh we used to have cedar closet and mothballs like remember your mom, your grandma's house smelled clothes today they're not touching it. That's right because it's plastic. Of course

Testing Brands And Calling Out Greenwash
SPEAKER_00 57:20

so we went from almost a hundred percent natural fiber closet from you know in the 80s and even dipping into the 90s to in the early 2000s 90 plus percent of your closet is now plastic and the moths won't touch it. Yeah so I think that that's the other thing too is we just have to change the way we are thinking about our clothes. They are meant to be natural they're meant to work with our bodies that's why the Egyptians use linen to heal. That's why hospitals use linen sheets that's why we call them linens to this day. Yeah right because they're meant to work with our bodies in a beneficial way. So there are options out there on my shop my and we're going to see far more options again with conversations like this because it's a great business opportunity for businesses. Your son, it's a great business opportunity we're creating the value. Yep and and also it's a great opportunity for your body to work on healing versus being sick.

Dr Pompa 58:10

Yeah yeah we don't want to keep filling our buckets up I mean arguably though again I the underwear the socks the bras are definitely because of the receptors you know where they're located is more toxic but you're still getting I mean any clothes you're still getting oh can I just go on a rant real fast with saunas because saunas as you know are one of the most impactful tools we have to detox in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_00 58:35

Sweating these chemicals and toxins out certain chemicals and toxins can be highly beneficial. But if you're sitting in a plastic bathing suit in the sauna I would argue you shouldn't even be in there in the first place. You're you're literally absorbing when we sweat our lipids our fat are is lifted off or rather our oil is lifted up and these chemicals love oil. So it is a perfect storm sitting in the sauna and these chemicals I would highly if you're gonna get in the sauna go naked like people you know traditionally do or get soft yeah and you shouldn't be using public saunas anyway because it's it's nasty.

Dr Pompa 59:11

Yeah fair enough yeah so be at home um yeah I'll add one little thing to that I'll piss a lot of people off but um breast implants she just made the point about heating plastic yeah uh it's a problem. Yeah you know fillers and all that it's all a problem. Don't think it's not it's a way bigger problem than anyone ever thought.

SPEAKER_00 59:31

Yeah sorry no and there's this uh age of awakening with women where we're realizing that what we've been told we're supposed to look like has a direct impact on our health and it's it's an interesting conversation because the health thing is so pervasive and you can't ignore it that we're now starting to rethink even some of those decisions we've made in the past about just aesthetics. Yeah. So that's a a a silver lining we'll call it of a really terrible problem is we're rethinking what actually matters.

Dr Pompa 59:58

I hope you're right.

SPEAKER_00 59:59

I I think you are she's filled with hope so she's if she believes how else do we keep going you know we have to have hope otherwise we're not gonna get any work done.

Dr Pompa 1:00:08

Yeah well look I you impacted me um on that round table. That's why you're sitting here you know I felt your passion I loved your energy and I just said man I want to get to know her better. I'm I gotta have her on my podcast. So we made it happen.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

Well likewise I love the work you do. It's so important conversations like this are how we actually make a tangible difference. They listen the businesses the politicians like they're listening and we can get a lot of work done.

Dr Pompa 1:00:32

I mean and you're you're at the root of it. I mean that's why you were invited to that roundtable the good thing and a bad thing at the same time. Some days I wish it was

How To Join The Safe Clothing Fight
Dr Pompa 1:00:40

you know I could just be chill and yeah I know but you're called God's called you to it where do they find you give them all where do you want them to find you yeah so my socials best place to find me is going to be Instagram which is Hannah Dunning11.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:52

Dunning is D-U-N-N-I-N-G. I have a website if you feel like you want to be a part of the fight we're not all called to the same fights and that's okay but if you're passionate about getting harmful chemicals out of clothes you can go to safeclothing.org. You can sign up to be an ambassador you can join our coalition or you can just sign active petitions which are a huge deal and impact us a lot on the hill. So it's a great way to get involved. Those are the two best ways. And then ultimately what I'd love for everyone to do is just ask companies to do better. That has been the most marked difference we've seen is when you you know email or Instagram or DM your favorite t-shirt or bra or underwear company to do better because they're listening. And if they see there's a business case that's that's where change happens.

Dr Pompa 1:01:38

That's where change happens. You have to build the value and then the money follows. That's right. Yeah the companies will do it but if there's no value they don't care.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:46

Yep and then if you want to see better options I have a shop my linked in my Instagram profile. Every time you shop it gives me a kickback. So if

Share The Bras Underwear Socks Rule
SPEAKER_00 1:01:55

you have a problem with that you can look up the businesses I post. I have no issue with that just get familiar with better options. Would love for you to support those businesses doing better.

Dr Pompa 1:02:03

Yeah I want you to get a kickback but that's me. Yeah I hope you get a lot of kickbacks because you're a mom making a difference.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:11

That's all thanks Dr.

Dr Pompa 1:02:11

Pompa I'll take it thanks for being here. Well you better like and share this show because moms how many of your friends haven't heard this show? Send them the show they have to know three things just start there the bras, the underwear and the socks boom lives are going to change you're gonna have a chance to empty the bucket. So you got it thanks for being here.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:32

Thanks so much for having me.

Dr Pompa 1:02:33

Awesome