Get Ready to Movie!
July 9, 2024

Twister (1996) Helen Hunt, Bill Paxton & Cary Elwes

Twister (1996) Helen Hunt, Bill Paxton & Cary Elwes
Twister (1996) Helen Hunt, Bill Paxton & Cary Elwes
Do You Even Movie?
Twister (1996) Helen Hunt, Bill Paxton & Cary Elwes

Henrique and David chase the storm with Twister (1996), Jan de Bont’s Oklahoma disaster adventure starring Helen Hunt, Bill Paxton and Cary Elwes. Hunt plays meteorologist Jo Harding, whose obsession with tornadoes is rooted in a terrifying childhood loss. Paxton is Bill, her estranged husband and former storm chaser, who arrives seeking divorce papers with therapist Melissa Reeves—only to be pulled back toward Jo, their research team and a dangerous outbreak.
The mission centers on Dorothy, a container of sensors designed to enter a tornado and gather data that could improve warning systems. Rival researcher Jonas Miller has built a suspiciously similar device, turning scientific urgency into a race across the plains. Henrique and David admire how the ensemble—including Philip Seymour Hoffman’s exuberant Dusty—creates a lived-in storm-chasing community, and they praise Jami Gertz for making Melissa sympathetic rather than treating her as a disposable obstacle to Bill and Jo’s reconciliation.
Their review follows the roadside hail, airborne debris, the memorable flying cow and the drive-in sequence where a tornado tears through screenings of The Shining and Psycho. Aunt Meg’s Wakita home gives the team a brief refuge before the damage becomes personal, while the final F5 pursuit pushes Bill and Jo directly into the storm. The hosts argue that escalating tornado encounters, clear geography and brisk pacing make the spectacle easy to follow even when the weather becomes overwhelming.
Production discussion covers de Bont’s large-scale action direction and Steven Spielberg’s suggestion that Jo’s father die in the opening, establishing both the tornadoes’ danger and her lifelong motivation. The oil-tanker explosion had to be reset after the first blast was mistimed, and harsh lighting used to create stormy contrast caused Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton temporary eye trouble. The hosts also note that the story unfolds across roughly twenty-four hours, reinforcing its relentless momentum.
Both hosts grew up with Twister through VHS, cable broadcasts and repeated family viewings. David recalls being frightened enough by the opening that his mother stopped the tape, while Henrique connects the movie’s danger to memories of destructive tornadoes near Dayton. Henrique recommends renting this near-perfect example of a 1990s blockbuster; David gives it a buy for its rewatchability, practical scale, beloved ensemble and ability to make storm science, relationship drama and popcorn spectacle move as one.
Links

0:02 Coming on May tenth. Juve on the producers of Jurassic Party and the director of Speed bring you face to face food Twister. There's no place to run, there's nowhere to hide, no time to escape. Don't think you'd like something to grab hold up, don't breathe, and never ever look back.

0:50 Twister thirteen starts Friday, May tenth at a theater near you. This summer, take a trip back to nineteen eighty one with the special people who made Summer Camp unforgettable. You guys aren't supposed to be out of your bunks. You're in trouble. The camp director war campers are stuck in the rope's course. I meant to tell you about that yesterday. Could you get to it now? The counselors wait for me, Wait for me, my darling waver, that's Wednesday cup, my shirt, the kitchen staff, finish up, the I'm gonna go fundo my sweaters on on what you said you were gonna go fondle your sweaters. The water sportsnet, the nature hikes out and of course, who can forget the sacks, the muggies, the cover ucks, the malaria, the psychotherapy who and the friendships that last a lifetime. You to be the guest of honor at our wedding next week. From USA Films and creators of TV's The State, A renegade piece of skylouds heading right for the count. Oh my God, couldn't kill us all? Janine Garoffalo, David Hyde, Pierce All Run, Christopher Maloney, and Molly Shannon Cady.

2:20 Have you seen her swimming? Buddy, I was busy. It's your job to make sure kids don't dress. Where are we going to a big secret pizza party? Wet, hot American summer? In a world where podcasts reigned supreme, Two friends dare to ask Do You Even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie officionado David Denyer. Spoiler alert. Well, hello everybody, and welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? I am, of course your host, Enrique Kuto here with Double D the master of Twister himself, Louis Denyer. Greetings everybody, and so Twister is your favorite game?

3:36 I mean I used to play a lot most kid. Really, I wasn't very good at it. I mean I was fair at it. God, I would love to actually try twister. It's been forever. Well now you're over thirty. Good luck. It's called sleeping eight hours. How do you bend the way that you just said? That hurt more than I think you meant for it too, But at the same time probably not. No, I mean again, because the creaky bone is going to start to hurt. It's going to start to hurt and bone dry bone. I had like a slip disc from sleeping once. I mean I hurt myself when I sleep a lot too well. I mean, you abuse yourself before you go to sleep. So I have terrible posture and back issues. What do you want? You have had a bad back, like as long as I've known you, Oh yeah, what did you do to it? I was just I'm just tall. Tall people just have back problems unfortunately. I mean that I have terrible posture, and I mean you have rough bad posture. And the other thing is that with my bad posture is I I used to like sleep in probably the most oddest of positions, like I could easily like crash on my on my couch growing up as a kid at my parents' house. I would sleep to where it was like I would almost be in like a j formation, like I would have my head like cocked a certain way back and want like it's weird. I slept in really weird positions growing up. I just didn't sleep on a bed for ten years. There. Yes, there's that too. I mean I don't think it hurt my back. Actually I think it was good for my back. You never know. Well, anyway,

5:08 Uh, tonight, we're kicking off our summer film. We're continuing continuing, continuing our summer last week American Summer, yes, which was quite the memory lane trip. Yes. But before we get to that, did you want to touch on Maxine a little bit? Because we Yeah, I think we should. Actually literally just saw it. Just got back from the theater after seeing Maxine. And now that I've said Maxine three times, YouTube's gonna shadow Bannus because it thinks I'm saying Vaccine. Probably I would not doubt that. But no, we just went to see Ty West's latest film, Maxine, which is of course the third in the X trilogy with X and Pearl and then Maxine. Even though technically Pearl X and then Maxine. Well, it's the order of release, not the order of the sub jury. I'm just saying chronologically, well, well, I mean chronolog I guess like in canon chronologically, yes, but the Pearls the prequel, and then X and then Maxine's the sequel. Do you always watch Back to the Future three first because you're like, well, well, this is the Old West. I've ever thought about it that way. You know, maybe I should Maybe I should start with three, go to one and then two from now on.

6:17 Or you know what you could do is because you got the box set, right, would you have the blue ear of the forte? I got the Blue ray, the Blue one. Shove it up your ass. Hey, mister, fancy fucking four K though you don't have the complete series the TV series that the Blu Ray does? I know? But I was one of the people who found it on eBay when it was fourteen dollars and they decided to honor the price instead of admitting they messed up. There is that? So that four K was was a delight? Yes, anyway, I love Amazon when they messed things. Oh this was this was on eBay but it was Universal's own store. Oh was it that one that got like where people were getting like the dextra complete series for like twenty bucks and whatnot. We were like, it was so bizarre there was an eBay store that got majorly messed U. No, it was. It was Universal's eBay store that that was selling Back to the Future four K all three films for fourteen dollars and everybody was buying them. They were like, we'll see if they honor it, and they honored most of them. So I got mine in the mail.

7:12 We've had a couple slip ups that we've taken advantage of. My favorite is probably still to this day, is is a Savini Jason. Oh yeah, we all were able to just buy the glitch on the Friend of the You're not talking about Maxine though, Sorry, Okay, yes, we went to a I mean, by the time you're watching this, it'll be out nationally. But we went to a preview screening the day before the fourth of July in the early access and I enjoyed it. Yeah, I was a little I was a little disappointed. But for the record, I consider Pearl a five star film. It's a masterpiece. So when I say something didn't live up to Pearl, that's high praise. Yeah. So I was honestly, like part of me was hoping, It's like, what if this blows me away? Just like Pearl? Did. Yeah, but X also did not blow me away. No. I thought X was fun. I thought Pearl was a masterpiece. Yeah, and I thought Maxine was a fun eighties romp. It was. It was a good conclusion for the series if if they stick with it, because you told me as we were driving back here that Ty West did say that if it does well, there might be he would be thinking he would be willing to develop another one. I'm just gonna go on record there does not need to be a fourth one. I think it's a it's a nice, neat trilogy. Each one takes place in a different decade, yeah, which I thought is a cool concept. But uh, and they're they're all massively different. Yeah, No, absolutely. I mean you've got X, which is which is like basically Texas chainsaw slasher film

8:45 with with porn mixed in. Yes, I mean porn's more of the theme rather than the actual point action. Yeah. Then you've got Pearl, which is a complete just descent into madness character study, God Allah, Wizard of Oz. Yeah, you're not wrong. And then Maxine is basically the final conclusion to all that, where her character from X is now basically a big porn star and she's also trying to break into movies, but somebody from her past has come back. It takes place in nineteen eighty five, so it's right when porn was at the height of glamour of porn had ended, and now home videos taking over, and it's kind of losing the glamour to an extent. And I'll just say, if you liked Pearl and you liked X, there is absolutely no reason to miss that. Maxine. Absolutely not.

9:39 Because it's gonna sound like I'm crapping all over it because I have complaints. I've realized about myself that I complain the most about things I like, Yeah you do. I bitched about the third season of The Bear with my friend Michelle for an hour, and I like The Bear. Yeah. I thought the third season was by any means terrible. Yeah, I just had problems with how some they did some of it. With Maxine, I thought they really had something interesting. Yeah, the Jallo flourish, the Italian horror flourishes were really cool. The nineteen eighties set pieces and clothing really on points. I mean they nailed the video store shots they had. I mean just the walk down Hollywood Boulevard was Yeah. No, yeah, yeah, And I mean and also I was very on the fence with the whole night night Stalker tie into it, but they handled it well, I thought. I thought it was a clever element. Yeah, and there were a lot of elements of the satanic panic in there too, like that's kind of a major thing.

10:41 If anything, I think the night Stalker was less of a thing than the satanic panic element. But and we talked about this at the theater, I think that the third act was not as good as the rest well of the three films, and has the most predictable plot absolutely, and that saying something because X, for being a paint by number slasher movie, is completely unpredictable. That third act is so insane. If you guessed that was going to happen, I don't want to sit in a room alone with you. Yeah, and the same with Pearl. If you guessed how Pearl was going to end, then your psycho. So I liked it, but I will admit I, without spoilers, I guessed the killer you did, and I was so disappointed that I was right. We both were. I think honestly, my biggest issue with it was it just didn't feel like any of the shock value from like Pearl and X were there in this one. It didn't feel like anything was really into a bigger scale. Well, I mean the kills, some of them were insanely gruesome. They were, Yes, I'll give you that, but I agree. I mean, there the Pearl had so many massive shocks, and they were always thematic and they always mattered to what was happening in the story. And an X the shocks were a little bit more predictable in that they were horror movie shocks. Yeah, but it was still a very surprising film with a lot of crazy shit going on.

12:09 And you know, the one thing that I realized now just sitting here, you could actually watch all three of those films by we'll pick one of them by themselves, and it would still stand up as a film on its own. No, that's absolutely true. Yeah, that's absolutely true. I gotta give credit to that. I mean, Maxine is the most sequelly sequel, Yeah, obviously, because it's kind of a direct follow up to X as to where Pearl is kind of a I mean, it is a prequel, but it only has one character that's basically that's barely in return X. But it's great. I mean it's a phenomenal film. I think you could watch Pearl a million times, absolutely so, but no so I I I all of this to say Maxine was a lot of fun. It was, and as I often say, if you love horror films, the best thing you can do for them is see them in the theater. Absolutely so that we keep getting them in the theater. And if you like the other two films, it's you're going to enjoy it. Mia Gotha was great. Although that was the other thing is I didn't feel like she got to be as quite well. I don't know if she could ever be as big of a tour to force as she was in Pearl or X well an X she was an ensemble. Yeah. In Pearl, I mean that's her philm. I mean she co wrote it. She you know, was so involved. Yeah.

13:22 I feel like everything in comparison to the Pearl character feels half baked. And that's not necessarily their fault. It's because Pearl is God damn. It's like the most subtle beating of with a baseball bat you could ever experience, Like you're getting beaten with a baseball bat, but it's subtle, and by the time you're bleeding. You're like, hey, you're beating me with a baseball bat. Yeah, so that's just my opinion. What's your final thought on Mexican? Final thought is go if you are a fan of either like like Henriguez said, X or Pearl Goo, see it because this is a decent conclusion to the true If hopefully they do stop here, it's still a fun movie even if the I mean, because the last twenty minutes are batshit, but they're predictable. Batshit is the weirdest thing. That was the only reason I was a little disappointed was because I gotten spoiled by the complete audaciousness yeah, of the other two films Final Aunts, And not to give spoilers away, but it was kind of funny to me that the overall theme at the end of this one also had to do with the two trailers for the new A twenty four films that are coming out. Oh you're right. Yeah, no, you're totally right. I guess they're on a kick with that topic right now. Yeah, No, you're totally right. So that's interesting.

14:35 Yeah, So yeah, that was Maxine had a good time. It is. We're recording this very late at night because the sneak what was it called the early access early access screen. There was only one today, yep, so we had to see it no matter what time it was. And then jump into the show Twister. And this is nineteen ninety six's Twister starring Bill Paxton Helen Hunt. Yes, a film that if you were a child of the nineties you saw a lot on cable on tape. I mean this we joked about it before, but like this is one of those VHS tapes that we talked about where it's like when you went to somebody's house they always had a copy of Men in Black at the Titanic two tape set and this and Independence Day and Independence Day with the with particulars I had that yep. So no, I mean I agree, it's one of those that was just ubiquitous.

15:24 Yeah, do you even movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do you even movie? So, uh, Dave, why don't you dive into the deets on Twister? All right? So we are talking about Twister from nineteen ninety six, one hour in fifty three minutes rated PG. Thirteen four intense depictions of very bad weather. That is the actual description. Yes, Oka, Okay, you got him mpah. So our director on this is Yon Debant, who gets his start as a basically a director of photography and a camera assistant. He gets to start as DP on in nineteen seventy one's Blue Movie. Then he does John the Knife and the River in seventy two, Turkish to Light in seventy three, Private Lessons in eighty one, Butcher Baker nightmare Maker in eighty one. Were those earlier films porn the one of them was I think Blue Movie was, Yeah, because some of them kind of sound like they were exploitation films. Yeah. I think I think Turkish the Light and Blue Movie might be the ones. Private Lessons I know is a comedy because I've got that in my voodoo. I didn't watch it yet. Well because and since he went into Butcher Baker nightmare Maker, which he's uncredited on. God damn it. Wait, So was there another DP on it? Yeah? I believe so, because I think we talked about him on this before he shot a movie that we cover, which I think was me a second here. He was supposed to be prepared. I

16:57 am prepared, but the problem is is that there's just too much good information for me to keep track of all of it, all right, read as not preparing such your mouth. All right, So Butcher Baker nightmare Maker eighty one, let's see cinematographer. You're gonna want to click on all crew. I mean, shut up, I got it there they moved stuff around on IMDb. All right, okay, alright, So cinematographer was Robbie Greenberg, who I know that name because he's done something else, one other thing, just one other thing. He shot something else. We cover a single other, single other thing. Snow Day. He was a cinematographer on Snowday.

17:41 That's hilarious. Snow Day was shot by the guy who shot Butcher Baker nightmare Maker. That's why we always cover the cinematographers, because you really don't know. Oh just just wait. So that he's because this is our director. But he also did cinematography work. So it is roar In eighty one as well, the Tippy hedrin Lin movie where all most people got injured. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dancing as Fast as I Can eighty two, Kujo eighty three, All the Right Moves eighty three, Flesh and Blood eighty five, Jewel the Nile eighty five, Ruthless People eighty six, Who's That Girl? Eighty seven, Die Hard eighty eight, Black Rain eighty nine. Well, he was the DP on Diehard. He was Wow Hunter for around October in nineteen ninety, Flat Liners ninety, Basic Instinct ninety two, Letha Weapon three ninety two, and then ninety four he has his directorial debut with Speed.

18:26 Well, I mean you might need a little pick me up if you're working as a as a director. You know the movie Speed, No, that's that's hilarious. Yeah wow. So I mean he was like an in demand DP. So he does Speed ninety four, Twister in ninety six, Speed two, Cruise Control in nineteen ninety seven, the better of the two. I will defense Speed too, even though it's not a very entertaining movie, The Haunting remake in ninety nine, and then his last directorial debut or directorial credit is Loria Croft tomb Raider Cradle of Life in two thousand and three. Oh wow, yeah, and then he just did he pass away? Or believe he look at him not doing his research ahead of time? I feel like he's still with us. Why were you distracted? Yeah? No, he's still with us. Huh. But yeah, he's just not working anymore. He just has not working for a little bit. The last thing he did was credit in twenty twelve on a cinematography Oh so he is still a cinematographer though, Yeah, but yeah. Twenty twelve was his last credit.

19:21 He shot an episode Tales from the Crypto. Yeah, he which one was it? I want to say, yes, the personality, the one with Joe Pesci Oh nice, Yeah, okay, but yeah, Yon de Bant, I mean incredible body of work, and that just moves us down then to our writer, which we have two writers on this film, first one being Michael Crichton and also his wife Anne Marie Martin is credited. Will go with criton first, of course, famous novelist. He gets his start for film Wise in nineteen seventy one with an adaptation of The Andromeda Strain, The Kerry Treatment in seventy two, Extreme Close Up seventy three, West World in seventy three, which he also directs, Terminal Man in seventy four, Coma in seventy eight, which he also directs, The Great Train Robbery in seventy eight, which he also directs, Look Her in eighty one, which he also directs, Runaway in eighty four, have you ever seen Runaway?

20:04 By the way, I have not Tom Selleck versus Gene Simmons and his crazy murderous robots. I noh. Also shit, But I also want to mention I'm kind of embarrassed to admit I didn't know Crichton directed. But you didn't know that? Yeah? Shit, Yeah, I had no idea. Yeah. So he does Runaway in eighty four, which he also directs, Jurassic Park in ninety three, which is the writer on Rising Sun in ninety three, Disclosure in ninety four, Er in ninety four, Congo in ninety five, Twister in ninety six, Lost World, Jurassic Park in ninety seven, Sphere in eighty eight, the Thirteenth Warrior in ninety nine, which he is uncredited as the director on. Oh yeah, I don't know what happened there. But they also have Timeline in two thousand and three, and of course the West World TV series in twenty sixteen he has credit on too Well.

20:45 Sure. Sure so His wife Anne Marie Martin is credited as a writer on Twister in ninety six. That is her only writing credit, But she actually had a career as an actress. For a little bit gets your start on Wonder Woman in nineteen seventy six, Street to San Francisco in seventy seven, Magic Mango in seventy seven, dead Man's Curve in seventy eight, Doctor's Private Lives in seventy eight, Killers Delight in seventy eight, The Shape of Things to Come in seventy nine, Buck Rogers in eighty BJ and the Bear in eighty, prom Night in nineteen eighty, Oh h Savage Harvest in eighty one, The Boogains in eighty one, Halloween two and eighty one, The Power of Matthew Starr in eighty three, TJ Hooker, The Young Ones, Saint Elsewhere, Runaway in eighty four, Ohay, Days of Our Lives in eighty two, Highway to Heaven eighty six, and also appeared on sledge Hammer in eighty six as well, So she only had those credits Sledgehammer, the shot on TVC No No No, the TV series. I was very excited, not sphe I was well well for fox sake. She showed up in what was that prom Knight and Savagearvest and the Bugains and Hell, So part of me was like, maybe she just her friend was making that on the weekend if I had to guess they met on Runaway Her and Crichton, did it sounds likely? Yeah, So then wrapping us up for our crew is our cinematographer, who is Jack in Green, Jack and Green, Jack and Green.

21:59 He gets a start as a camera op and assistant on these films starting with seventy four with Winplacer, Steel, Rooster, Cobburn in seventy five, Every Which Way But Loose in seventy eight, Diary of a Teenage Hitchhiker in seventy nine, Bronco Billy in nineteen eighty, Any Which Way You Can in nineteen eighty, Greatest American Hero eighty one, Firefox forty eight hours, Honky talk Man, Sudden Impact, Uncommon Valor in eighty three, Tightrope eighty four, Beverly Hills Cop in eighty four, City Heat in eighty four, Starman in eighty four, Pale Rider Rocky four, Pretty In Pink Out of Bounds, Karate Kid in eight or Kridi Kid Part three in eighty nine, And he also has a credit for camera op and assistant on Click in two thousand and six, Oh, the Adams Handler film. Yeah, but he does not become a Ctinhotographer in DP until nineteen eighty six, with heart Breakridge, Like Father, Like Son in eighty seven, The Deadpool in eighty eight, Pink Cadillac eighty nine, White Hunter, Black Heart in nineteen ninety, The Rookie in ninety one, Love Crimes in ninety two, Unforgiven in ninety two, Rookie of the Year in ninety three. Oh, you're just talking about that movie. I know, Perfect World in ninety three, Trapped in Paradise in ninety four, he shot Trapped in Paradise. No shit, it's a very underrated Christmas movie that may come up on this year's rotation. Possibly we'll see Bridges Masson County at ninety five, The Net ninety five, The Amazing Panda Adventure in ninety five. Then he does Twister in ninety six, goes on through Absolute Power the following year, the Clint Eastwood movie where he's the burglar that catches the President. I love that movie. Is Power great.

23:19 The best part about that movie is that I saw for the first time two or three years ago. I'm on Lake Max, Yeah, and I didn't know anything about it. So the way they revealed that Hackman is the president of the United States was a shot. Yeah, on par with a Beekeeper. Yeah. Beekeeper kept you not knowing until the last second, like, oh that's the President. Yeah yeah, no, No. Absolute Power is such a good movie. Speed two, Cruise Control in ninety seven, Okay, Midnight, the Garden, Good and Evil ninety seven, Veggietails, Josh and the Big Wall in nineteen ninety seven, all Right, True Crime in ninety nine, Girl Interrupted, nine Space, Cowboys in two thousand, A Man Apart two thousand and three, Second Hand Lions from fifty first Dates, The forty year Old Virgin in two thousand and five Shot forty year Old Virgin.

24:07 Yeah, that's wild, Serenity two thousand and five. Are We Done Yet? Two thousand and seven, Hot Tub Time Machine twenty ten, Diver, Wimpy Kid twenty ten, and Left Behind Remaking twenty fourteen. I Love Dyna Kid, Yeah, I do so. That is Jack and Green our cinematographer, which is choosed in Green Us down to our IMDb synopsis, which says, two storm chasers on the brink of divorce must work together to create an advanced weather alert system by putting themselves in the crosshairs of extremely violent tornadoes. I mean, that's pretty close to dead on, So I'm gonna try to do a better Oh okay, my synopsis says a previous storm chaser now weather man attempts to get his ex wife to sign their divorce papers, but gets roped back into storm chasing when she reveals his prototype for an advanced weather monitoring system is ready as a batch of dangerous tornadoes unleash in the area.

24:57 Not bad, but to quote Joe Bob Briggs, you let too much plot get in the way of the story. I'm leaving good all right bye. Oh man, I can't believe I didn't even think to do this, Like but wait, oh, I guess it's I guess this is the perfect time. There we go. Yes, we did have a storm earlier today today, Uh like there might be another one moving in shortly. Well, it's supposed to. It's supposed to rain our entire fourth of July, yay, which means I'll be at friends houses eating barbecue and not smoking cigars because they're like, you know, what's smoke in our house? And I'm like, shut up. I have been saying since I became a cigar man, that, uh, a cigar That's how I I quantify myself. I consider my love of cigars to be an element of who I am, not a not a not a hobby, a cigar personality. And I've been saying forever that, like, when I get really old, I'm just gonna have a cigar lit anywhere I want to go. And when somebody goes you can't have that, I'm like, it's fun, it's fine. You're Jason Robarms in parenthood, just tearing the non smoking thing off the walls. Did I tell you about? There was a tweet my buddy Andrew Heaton posted about how he was.

26:14 He was like, this is so ridiculous because there was a no smoking sign in the bathroom of an airplane he was on. He was like, this is so ridiculous and the good old days when you could go out grab a quick smoke in the bathroom and on the sign it said destroying the sign is a FAA violation. And some random guy commented and just said, you know, based on that sign biomission, you can legally destroy anything else on the plane you want. And the Heaton's response was your now, my attorney, I always think about that. I think of no smoking's good, you know, they omitted everything else, but no, no, so no cigars on fourth of July till I'm home. We'll see, we'll see if you make it. It's not like I don't go five days without a stove.

27:00 Ye, you did just send our group a picture, not like I think it was like two weeks ago of you double thirsting three. I was. I was at a taste. Yes, I wasn't actually smoking three cigars, and actually I got really dizzy, bet not even from it was just from keeping the three lit. No. What they did was they gave us two older cigars that were uh, they were getting rid of, Yeah, and you would taste them and kind of see what was up, and then they gave you a third one, which is a brand new blend. And then they revealed at the end of this tasting that they were all the exact same internals with different rappers. That's cool. So it was like mind blowing to realize how much the rapper affected. And then you would just smoke whichever one you wanted the rest of the way. And yeah, but I was getting like with the three cigars in my fingers, that was getting a little funky anyway. But no, no, so the storms they are coming. So moving down to our cast, we have Helen Hunt, who plays doctor Joe Harding one hundred and nine credits on her IMDD page, by the way, one hundred and nine hundred and nine, Starting with Pioneer Woman in nineteen seventy three. She appeared also on the Swiss Family Robinson series in seventy five, Mary Tyler Moore Show in seventy seven, The Spell in seventy seven, Roller Coaster in seventy seven, The Facts of Life, Notts Landing, The Miracle, Kathy Miller Desperate Lives, Give Me a Break in eighty two, Morgan Mindy, Laverne, Shirley and Fawn's Hour in eighty two. Okay, they also Highway to Hell in eighty five, saying Elsewhere in eighty five, Peggy Sue got married in eighty six, The Frog Print eighty six, Project X in eighty seven, Stealing Home Pulse Pounders, and then in nineteen oh go Ahead Busted. What Pulse Pounders was a compilation that had clips of her from

28:37 because Charlie Band is a fucking cho ch Yeah, hey whatever, I don't give a fuck, But it's not like, oh, oh, what if you, then maybe you'll never work with Charlie Band. Yeah. I like what my check's clear personally, But no, Pulse Pounders was a concept Full Moon was doing and they used clips from Trancers. That makes sense, just throwing that out there because I was a Full Moon nerd when I was growing up and I actually fucked up. I just realized this, I got my thing messed up. So Fawn's Hour in eighty two, Quarterback Princess in eighty three, Sweet Revenge in eighty four, also the same year of it as Trancers in eighty four. Yeah, then girls just want to have fun in eighty five, Highway to Heaven eighty five, saying elsewhere peggis who got married, Frog Friends, Project ex Stealing Home, Paul Spounders Transfer City of Los Angeles in eighty eight, Okay yeah yeah, next of Canon eighty nine, which she also that was where she was with Bill Paxton for the first time ever. Will be an episode? Oh yes, expis will be an episode.

29:33 China Beach in nineteen ninety, Transfers two ninety one, Into the bad Lands ninety one, Only You ninety two, Bob Roberts ninety two, Mister Saturday Night ninety two, Transfers three ninety two, Larry Sanders Show ninety four, Matt About You ninety four, The Muppets, She drives to be crazy in ninety four. Oh okay, Friends in ninety five, Kiss of Death in ninety five. Then in Twist ninety six, she gets Twist her as good as it gets the following year in ninety seven, okay, so that was one year later, The Simpsons in ninety eight, Ellen in ninety eight, and The Woman in two thousand, Pay It Forward in two thousand, Castaway in two thousand, and Women One in two thousand. So she gets Twister and then goes on to do like three really big movies. And like I said to you off, Mike, I really just hope Yandabant was just a huge Transfers fan. And one James Well, I almost guarantee he saw her. I'm mad about you. Yeah. I would like to imagine he's like, I just loved trancers. Uh. Well, And it's funny because like, uh two or three of those Transfers credits, yeah, are just recycled footage. I'm gonna say she's only in one and two, right, I think she was in three for one scene okay, because I remember when she got her big TV gig. Yeah, she didn't quite have the attitude that she was too good for the B movies. Yeah, well she even was in It was only like about five or eight years ago. I want to say that I see you came out that one that she was really like that. That was a good one. Yeah, Do You Even movie will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even movie? So then we

31:07 also have Bill Paxon in our lineup who has plays Bill Harding in this and he has one hundred credits on his IMDb page. Starts in nineteen seventy five, and Crazy Mama Stripes in eighty one, Butcher Baker nightmare Maker in eighty one. Oh yeah, he was in that Yep Mortuary in eighty two. Pat bennetzar Shadows of the Night video in eighty two, Reckless in eighty three, Deadly Lessons in eighty three, Streets of Fire in nineteen eighty four, Impulse in eighty four, The Terminator in eighty four. Yeah, and I want to mention, I'm pretty sure Crazy Mama was a Roger Cormanger Corman. It was, Yes, you are correct, because he worked as a Carpenter. Yeah for Roger Corman alongside James Cameron Cameron, Yeah, Jimmy Camm, Jimmy Tam, Jimmy Cam. He loves when you call him that. Oh yeah, just like when you mentioned his first movie ever. Oh yeah, Paranya too, Anya to the spun. Oh yeah, so then he does like I said, Terminator in eighty four, Weird Science in eighty five, Commando in eighty five, Aliens in eighty six, appears on Miami Vice in eighty six, Near Dark in eighty seven, Past the Ammo in eighty seven.

32:02 This might be a movie that I have you hunt for because I can't find it. You can't find Past the Ammo? Do you know what it is? No heist of a corrupt preacher goes wrong in regards to I guess I like doing a sermon and it gets rob But it's Bill Paxton, Tim Curry, Annie Potts and who is the other big name in this? Like there's one more? I mean Paul with Innvictor is in it from Freddy's Nightmares. Hey, but no, I've heard this movie is really good and I cannot find it. Joel Cohen wrote it, Okay, so Joel and Neil Cohen wrote it, I really have been dying to see it, so we may have to find that one. I mean, remind me after the show, I'll dig around cool So Past Them in eighty seven, Slipstream in eighty nine, Brain Dead in nineteen ninety. Then he also does Last of the Finest nineteen ninety, Navy Seals, Predator to the Dark, Backward One, False Move, The Vagrant, Truspass Future episode ninety two, Boxing Helene in ninety three, Indian Summer ninety three, Monolith in ninety three, Tails from the Crypt, People who Live in Brass Hearses in ninety three, Butter Brickle, Brick Letter Pcan, Tombstone in ninety three, True Lies in ninety four, Frank and Jesse in ninety four, A Paul thirteen ninety five, The Last Supper Nights ninety five. I love him in The Last Supper. Well, that's that's one of my favorite film. That might be. The Last Supper is an excellent film. I will say it seems like pretty much by ninety yeah, he was just flying a rocket to the moon. I mean he's in everything, Twister in ninety six, Traveler in ninety seven, Titanic the same year, Simple Plan in ninety eight, Mighty Joe Young in ninety eight, U five seven one two thousand, Vertical Limit two thousand, Frailty two thousand and one, Spy Kids two in two thousand and two, and

33:34 my personal favorite that I'm Gonna End on Club Dread in two thousand and four, where replays Coconut Pee Yes, and you don't even have Big Love on there? No, I do not. I'm sorry, which is one of his fine but seriously one of his finest performances on the HBO series Big Love. Yeah, unfortunately he passed away way too young, way too young, and way too soon. It was some kind of a mishap with his a surgery. He's tragic. Yeah, I was very and that's why he is only at one hundred credits, because otherwise he'd be in freaking oh anything. He was. He was really going those last couple of years because I mean he was in like there was two guns. He was. He was a producer a Nightcrawler and he was Yeah, you're right, Yeah he was. He was. I don't know why he thought or anybody thought we wouldn't recognize him in a Nightcrawler. He's that other news gatherer yeah, but he's also a security guard that you never see their face. Yep. But I'm like, that's fucking Bill Pakista. Yeah, it's I love Bill Paxton. But it's not like he would just walk into a crowd and I'd be like, Oh, where'd Bill Paxtick go? No, I'd spot him. So other credit we have listed on IDV is carry Elways, who plays doctor Jonas Miller one hundred and thirty seven credits on his resume. Well, you know what they say when you need a British asshole. I mean, I love him.

34:43 He's a great actor. Yeah, but he just is so easy to hate. Yeah, he's so easy to hate. That was the first joke I made when we were first watching the film again. I was like, Oh, they need a jerk, so there he is, well on some jerk. One of my all time favorite roles of his, or one of my favorite reveals of his, is spoilers. If you haven't seen all of the Saw films, this is your spoiler alert right now. If you want to push that oh h that used to be put on the spot spoiler alert. So if you haven't seen the Saw films, there you go. The way that they wrapped him up in that series with bringing him back in that last what was the last movie at the time, and revealing how he basically helped Jake Saw. I fucking loved that. That was pretty good. That was solid. I think my favorite performance of his is in The Crush.

35:24 Oh The Crush is great. I feel like he does such a good job of getting across how afraid you would be of this underage girl both trying to screw you and then destroy you. And her dad is Kurt Woodsmith. I love that. I was just thinking about that scene where he's like, I just imagine some kid showing up to pick her up with a heart on and his hiding in his pants, and I just imagine how hard it'd be not to just cut it off. It's a great scene. Oh, that's a great film. One hundred and thirty seven credits. He gets to start in seventy nine with Yesterday's Hero, Oxford Blues in eighty four, The Bride in eighty five, Princess Briden eighty seven, Glory in eighty nine, Days of Thunder in nineteen ninety, Hot Shots in ninety one, Leather Jackets in ninety one, Rob Stoker's Dracula in ninety two, The Crush in ninety three, Robin Hood Been in Tights in ninety three, The Chase in ninety four, The Jungle Book remake in ninety four, then does Twister in ninety six, Seinfeld in ninety six, Liar Liar in nineteen ninety seven, Kiss the Girls in ninety seven, The Pentagon, Worlds of Wars in ninety eight, Pinky and the Brain in ninety eight, Quest for Camelot, the Outer Limits, Shadow of the Vampire in two thousand. Oh yeah, I love Shadow of the Vampire, of course you do, dude, don't even We may even do that to support no s Feratu remake coming out, and we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Has anything to piss off Flaurin Stoker. That's fair, fuck Florn Stoker. Night Vision two thousand and one, The X Files two thousand and one, The Cat Returns two thousand and two, and then Saw in two thousand and four. Always he is just really tearing it up right now with Hallmark in Christmas movies, especially like A Castle for Christmas and whatnot, or those Netflix ones. I can't. Oh, he's been

36:58 doing a lot of indies too. Yeah, but no, he is awesome. Other members of the cast that I do want to mention real quick. We have, of course Philip Seymour Hoffan who plays Dusty in this, Jamie Gertz, Lois Smith, Alan ruck Sean Whalin todd Field. We've also got nearly every character actor of the Never characters in the nineties. Yeah. So also Jeremy Davies of course from a justified and Helter Skelter fame. And it's worth mentioning this film is an Ambulan production. It's produced by Steven Spielberg yep, so it has that kind of clout and gloss to it of those ambulin movies. And as of this recording, it is available to stream. You can find it on a couple apps. So if you search on your Roku or streaming device where you have, you will be able to find Twister and watch it. But also if you don't on Twister, that's your problem right now too. Oh well, way to spoil what you're gonna say at the end. I mean I haven't said that yet. I just said just just saying, you know, if you don't have access to Twister, that's your own fault. Okay, who doesn't have access to Twister. This movie's fantastic people in Africa with no electricity. All right, well that's fair. Well now I feel bad, Yeah you should, that's fair. You're ready into the movie? Sure? All right? So we open with or excuse me?

38:06 Oh wait? Oh well, let me back up. No, what was your first time watching Twister? Enrique? Oh gosh, we rented it on tape from Blockbuster or yeah, no, from probably Blockbuster or one of the nearby video stores. Uh, if it came out in ninety six. Yeah, we probably rented at Blockbuster. The commercial was always on TV when it came into theaters and it came onto home video, and everybody was always even if you hadn't seen the movie, would would quote the cow joke. Yeah, you know, a cow, another cow, same one. And that's what I remember the most, is like, ha ha ha, So I had to rent it, yeah and watch it. I remember being deeply, deeply scared because I grew up in Ohio and we have tornadoes. We do, and I I several times in my childhood we would uh we never I've never lived in a house with a basement. Okay, so several times in my childhood we would get in the bathtub and wade it out. So I was already very afraid of severe thunderstorms when I was very young anyway, So when the movie came out on VHS, I was like eleven years old, so I was still pretty afraid. I was so afraid of bad storm, Like if we had a tornado warning, then for like five or six weeks afterward, I would religiously watch the weather channel, and if like rain

39:37 happened, my Aunt Betty would come and sit with me until the because I would get so scared when I was a little kid, because I mean because we got tornado. I mean we've got tornadoes as recently as twenty nineteen, we had a severe, devastating tornado here in Dayton. Yeah. So but yeah, that was when I first saw and then I've seen it on cable literally as recently as three weeks ago. So it is it is really, it's always somewhere. It absolutely is. So my first time watching it, Mom had rented this from Kroger's Video store because our Kroger had the video store still at this point. Wow. Yeah, I don't know exactly when my Kroger got rid of theirs, but it would it couldn't have been much later than ninety six. So we get it from the video store. And I'm four years old at this point, so my recollection of this isn't super strong.

40:23 But I remember Mom sits us down to watch it. Me and Erica and Mom are watching it, and it's the opening, and you know, we see the dad get taken and then all of a sudden, like Eric and I I think both started crying because that was just very intense, because Eric would have been seven and I was four at the time. And so Mom stops it. Mom stops the tape. I don't know if I don't know if days pastor we rented it again, but this movie just became a regular staple around our house, on cable, on the VHS table, on the DVD we eventually got. I've probably seen Twister close to twenty five or thirty times. That sounds low. Sounds low, yeah, I mean it could be, it could be more than that. But I've seen this movie a lot. I love this movie. I probably average two watches of this movie each year, honestly, then thirties low probably all right, I mean that's fair enough. It's hard to tell because it's because any time it's on TV, I will sit down and watch it. Like, even if I'm at my parents' house not intending to stay, if they have Twister on, I will sit down and watch it, because how do you not. I mean I I've definitely been pulled in for Twister a few times. But that's how I am with like Back to the Future, back to the Futures on TV. Yeah, no matter where it is in the film, I'm gonna sit down and watch it. It's just how Back to the Future is, how Raiders the Lost Arc is, Twister, Twister, Bromstargers, Dracula, and probably the other one would be honestly, Halloween or Halloween two. Those are my drop the remote movies if they're on TV. Halloween two. I love Halloween too, And you know this well. To me, what makes

41:54 a movie a drop the remote is that it is on all the time as well. Yeah, And that's why I go like Back to the Future, Raiders of Lost Arc, you know, because those were on TV a lot, and those were ones where literally I would be flipping yeah and then go hey, twenty minutes into Back to the Future and then it was over, and I'm like, oh, where did my afternoon go? I will say on that note that like anytime we had a family gathering for like a solid like ten years, Happy Gilmour was always on TV whenever we had like a gathering with Dad's side of the family. That's that's bizarre. It was weird fair. It was always just because it was a joke for a while, because like we'd be like, okay, let's slip on see how you know, and we would always find it. Like I wish I was old enough to remember when beast Master was on like every day. I remember you, I remember you saying that. Well, they used to. That was a running joke on HBO. HBO was called hey beast Masters on No but but TBS was called the beast Master Station. Yeah, because it was just playing ad nauseum. See. And I feel like TBS back in my day had Jaws on all the time. I don't feel like Jaws was a large TBS was was pretty big into comedy by the point. Yeah, well dinner in a movie and TNT was the place where you would go for drama. TNT had Jaws and carry those two. I remember distinctly being on a lot too, but I don't So getting into the film, we open with a shot of a storm moving in into what is what is a nice town and we see that it is June nineteen sixty nine. Nice. So we cut to a farmhouse and we see a dad downstairs drinking coffee, watching the weather, and we see a little girl in a bed played by a very young Alexa

43:28 Vega, and suddenly her mom comes in saying that there's a storm coming and they've got to get down to the cellar. So they all make their way down stairs and go outside, and that's when all hell is breaking loose by this house. There's lightning, the winds picking up. I mean, it's it's it's intense. Yeah. And I remember because when we were watching it just now, I was mad because the Blu ray automatically played in stereo. Yeah, And as the tornado was going, I was like, why is my surrounds around not on? So I had to go and flip through the menus to get that. And then once the surrounds I was on, there was like, holy shit. So we see the animals running. We see the family run towards the storm cellar. They get inside, they light the lantern and they lock the door, and that's when we see and hear the twister just sweeping over. So Joe is with her mom at this point, and her dad goes up because he sees the lock on the door is starting to shake loose, so he's gonna hold onto the storm door. Stupid decision.

44:15 Well, I mean it's not a stupid decision if you love your family. I mean I feel like if the door would have got blown off, they still would have been Damon would let his family die. I'd never said that that is, well, it's what you imply. I'm not implying that. Okay, we'll see when that tornado comes, I ordered, Oh my god, don't even joke. We've had a lot of heavy rain this summer. Well, I mean that's not a tornado though. No, but we've had We've had a I've been in my basement twice already this summer, and I don't want to go back. You're a little bit scared, a bit. No, it's not even it's not even that. It's I'm fucking terrified because my mom did that to me at a young age. And I love watching storms like I will be on my short like we go it's a tornado.

44:58 Mom. I love you. If you're listening this. I do not mean to throw shade, but my father actually had to like step in one time because like he was getting mad at how like afraid I was being because she wasn't thinking about how she presented what was going on to a young child. Was she just panic? Like crazy kinda? Yeah, what you mean is you got your panic toward weather from your mother. Well, and then my mom, God lover, she one time we were just sitting, we were sitting in the living room because we have my parents have a big facing window towards this hill where we had a lot of storms roll through, and she just sat there with me for like I think it was about an hour and just showed me that storms weren't scary. So my fear has dropped a bit. But in the last five years between me covering tornado damage for or actually longer than that, probably eight years, me covering tornado damage for the radio station, TV station back in the day, and just in general, like you were saying the one tornado we had recently, we had one at Indian Lake recently. Well you didn't have it, No Dayton did it.

45:54 But I'm saying it was close enough to home. Oh No, I'm just yeah, I'm just because I remember the for that peer driving on seventy five and going past that side where they had to rebuild the whole facility that got hit in that whole side right by Dixie. It was it was really sad to drive past her for a for a while. Well, yeah, tornadoes rip shit up, Yes, yes they do. It means this movie shows yeah, no shit, but no, I mean I I just think that if he would have let go of the door, things might have been okay. But he doesn't. He holds onto the door, and Joe then watches as her father is sucked into the tornado and taken away from her. As the tornado passes over, her mom's holding on to her. And one thing I did mention to you this time that I just caught on this viewing.

46:35 She does have a dog that's exactly like Tote from the Wizard of Mindy. She is what's called a Karen Terrier because I had a Karen Terrier when I was a little boy named Toto. Of course you did. I Hey, listen, when you get a dog when you're five or four and you get to name it, yeah Toto, Yeah that's fair. And it was literally the breed of dog that Toto was. Do You Eat Movie will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even Movie? So now it's present day.

47:15 We see a satellite and we meet the people behind the National Severe Storm Laboratory, the NSSL, and they are talking about how there's a bunch of breaks in the weather system right now and that if these storms pick up in a certain way, it's going to be a massive outbreak of storms. And one hit goes this is going to be a long day. As we cut to a long stretch of road and we meet Bill and Melissa. Bill Paxton and Melissa, who was played by Jamie Gertz. They're newly engaged in heading out to Joe's site with the rest of her crew because they want to get Bill's divorce papers from well, you know, they gotta get them sign, gotta get them signed so they can get married. So they are driving onto the site and we meet Dusty played by Philip Seymour Hoffman, who is very very excited to see Bill, and Bill is like, you know, Dusty's like, you know, are you back? You know, the man the extreme, the extremes back, which we'll explain the extreme as we get later into the podcast, but that's what everybody calls him, and everybody's super excited to see Bill Paxson's character. They're welcome him back. And that's when Bill decides to drop off Melissa with Dusty while he goes to talk to Joe, who is working on their Doppler satellite. And he goes up to her and he's like, you know, hey, Joe, how's it going. She stands up and is kind of surprised to see him, but they immediately just kind of just have that thing. It's it's kind of cool the way that she kind of just they both just have that connection even if they're not into each other, well, they have a moment. They have been married for however xt amount of years. Yeah, but no, So Joe is basically fixing the Doppler and that's when he asked her about the divorce papers and she's like, well, I haven't looked over him and signed him yet, and so she goes to her truck and gets them and that's when they have this exchange that she missed a part of the document to sign, so she takes

48:47 a second and reads it and he's like, you've had these papers since December. Why are they not signed? Yeah, Well, he's like, it hasn't changed since I gave it to you. Yeah, and she's like, I didn't read him back then. So that's when Joe also realizes that Bill brought Melissa with him and she's with Dusty, and she's like, you know you left her with Dusty? Are you crazy? So she goes over to me Melissa, and that's when Melissa get a call revealing that Melissa is also a therapist. So Melissa's a therapist and Bill and Joe are now hanging out together, and that's when Joe also tells Bill that the prototype for the weather system that he had developed previously called Dorothy, they've made it and it's ready. Yeah, And it's basically a data gathering system that would allow little sensors to go inside of a tornado and learn as much as possible about how the winds blow, how the tornados assembled, what the pressure is like when it reduces, when it gets stronger, et cetera, et cetera. It would be one of the biggest meteorological breakthroughs of their time. So it's a very big deal, very big deal. And he pointed out that the circles instead of the squares. Yeah, there's circular instead of square. But the funniest part about or not funniest part, but the saddest part, or the cutest part, or whatever you want to call it, is when Paxton sees that has become a reality. You see him become desperate to be involved again.

50:01 Yeah, because he's a weatherman now, so he's kind of get yeah, yes, and he's kind of gave he's given up storm chasing. And even Melissa really didn't have any idea what he did before, because that's the line will get to later. But Bill has been out of the game for a while. He's a weatherman. Everybody knows it. So him seeing this, you can kind of see that light kind of come back to where he's just like, oh shit, like I could this could this could be big? Sure, definitely. And that is exactly what Joe was intending to because that's why she reveals it to him, is because this is one of the days that they are predicting a lot of tornadoes to hit. And that's when suddenly Haines, one of Joe's team, gets a call that they have an early forming of a twister and it is go time, so we see everybody spring into action. We watch the crew break down their base camp. Melissa and Bill go to leave, but Bill realizes that he forgot the divorce papers.

50:47 Whoopsies, So now he's back in the saddle as him and Melissa get into his truck and they are following Joe and her crew out to the site. And that is when Bill also catches sights alongside of them as they are driving past his old nemesis, Jonas, who is played by carry Always. Of course, well because carry All is everyone's old nemesis. Yes, if I saw him, I would immediately hate him for no reason. I'd just be like that son of a bitch, Like what do you know about carry Elwiston. I'd be like, actually nothing, He just movies trained me to be his enemy. But he has a son of accident in this one, so maybe he'll be nicer I which I think, I think sincerely. They were like, look, we can't have we can't have everybody hate the Brits every time, so we're gonna have you not be British this one time. And he was like, oh okay, So he comments that Jonas used to be one of his partners back in the day at their schooling. But Jonas got h you know, he got win at one time, and he got like sponsorship and whatnot, so he kind of gonna let the money go to his head. And now he has an entire elite team with him too well, and his team is like organized. They have consistent vehicles, consistent equipment.

51:49 Bill's Team, Joe Team, Joe's Team whatever. Yeah. Yeah, uh they are ragtag. Yeah, I mean like the definition of I mean, one of there is a short school bus YEP, Dusty. Dusty has the short school bus that's always playing music videos outside of the school bus too, because he's got like two speakers about it on the front. Yeah, he blares music out of the vehicle, which just seems not constructive. We've got Alan Ruck and his guy that are the map people, which one of the things that really dates this movie is having the map truck instead of the GPS truck. Oh yeah, they have maps all over so they can they can plot things out. And I mean, like Enriquet mentioned earlier, it's just a it's just a grouping of character actors, like some of the best of the Nightties, and they're all odd balls their way, so they are riding next to Jonas, and that's when Bill realizes that he's lost his train of thought. And he's also kind of gone off the road because there's a car trying to pass him, so he runs over some pipes in the grass takes out his truck tire, so he has to pull off and get that fixed.

52:45 So down the road they've all stopped. He's changing the tire, and that's when Jonas now has an entourage around him of reporters and everything, and he reveals that he also has a system, much like Dorothy, and this pisses Bill a yeah, and his argument when he says you ripped off as he's like, it was a concept, the concept that I executed on my own when yours was just a concept, which is an argument to be made unrealized ideas what he said, Oh yeah, unrealized idea. That was the term he used. Because Bill confronts him, he goes up and punches him, and they try to punch him. He grabs him and pushes him, which is I mean, we like because I remember because when I was watching it, I thought he was gonna give him a haymaker and and I was thinking, like, boy, that's pretty extreme. And then he didn't and just like shoves him around and stuff. I joked that it was like a school bully, like he just grabbed me, was like freaking nerd. So he grabs Jonas, and Jonas of course denies it, calls an unrealist idea, and that's when Joe pulls him aside and she's like, you know, Paul, I'm sorry for not telling you. And Bill says, I'll give you one day. One day, whether Dorothy flies or not, I'm out of here. So he's joining them. The gang is back together for one day to see if they can get Dorothy to fly. Yes, and uh, of course, who is not involved in this decision his moll As soon to be wife, hopefully to her and maybe to him. And now all of a sudden they're all hanging out of this diner. But now Bill starts to notice his instinctual thing, because he mentions at one point carry Elle was the big difference is Carrie doesn't have instinct doesn't have instincts. He has money

54:16 and no instinct. So Bill's outside looking at the sky. Fa picks up the dirt and drops it to see how the wind's blowing. And he figures out where it's going to be. They all get in their cars, and of course he's in the car with Joe and his woman friend is stuck by herself in their pickup truck, and they start booking it but to go catch that next tornady. So that's when also Melissa realizes back of the diner one thing, she's talking with Joe, and you know, she's just talking about how Bill is just like a force of nature, He's got his instinct and she realizes that she still loves him, and she's like, you know, I don't have a problem with it. I just hope it doesn't turn into anything else. So outside, Bill notices the sky going green. Troops head back out to the storm as it begins to form, and Joe and Bill are together as they're driving the truck. Joe tries to question Bill about Melissa basically, and and Bill is not giving any input. He's like, no, no, we're not talking about that, Like, you know, I don't want to fight. I don't want to fight. I don't want to fight. Yeah, and it, yeah, so ends she ends up finding out that she's a therapist and that's about it, and reproductive therapist. Yeah, yeah, so and and but now I mean they're they're within a very short amount of time, they are finding the tornado. Yeah, it is looking rough. And of course the truck that that Joe and Bill are in has the the data thing Dorothy, and they have to get damn close to eject those sensor balls in the tornado. One of my favorite things is they're fighting on the radio, because the radio is going out to all of Joe's gang, so they're hearing them fight and he's like, hey, are you guys. A Belt's like, are you guys done? And they're like,

55:47 yeah, what's going on? They're like, I don't know if you guys want to chase some tornadoes, because they've spotted the tornado already, even know, if you guys want to chase some tornadoes or whatever. Yeah, So they go to intercept it, and that's when Jonas is also on the trail and he notices the tire marks as he's following them, and the guy's like, hey, they turn left, and he's like do it. So now Jonas is completely ripping off their trail as well. Well. And they mentioned that that's what he does. That's what he does. He does whatever they do so we see his guys turn and we see the tornado is now on the ground. As Joe advises Bill to try and get ahead of it, so he crosses into a field, getting stuck in an empty creek bank, and that's when they have to abandon ship because this tornado's coming right in on them. So they try to park it as close to this bridge as they can get overpass overpass, and so they go under it to take shelter.

56:28 The tornado comes through starts ripping boards off of the off of the overpass, and that's when we also see the truck get slowly pulled back. We start to see it get pulled back because Joe's racing out. She wants to see it, and Bill's like no, no, no, like what are you doing? Get back here. This is the beginning of us realizing Joe's got kind of a death wish. Yes, yes she does. So she's like, I want to see it, So he pulls her back. So they're watching as the tornado goes through, and uh tornado passes, Joe goes, where's my truck? And as Melissa's driving down the road, Joe's truck just plummets and drops on its back right in front just barely misses, just barely, which, uh, the character Philip Seymour Hoffmann plays is very amused. But he's like, wow, she said like she just missed it. She just missed it. So now they're they're they're trying to gather up Dorothy, but the truck is just could put to put. And there's a great adult joke where where Joe's like, is that truck insured? And he's like, only liability liability, So, which were the uninitiated. When you have liability only insurance, it means that you only cover damage you do to other people's property. Yeah, but not insured your actual personal vehicle, which is hilarious because he's like, oh no, no, and boom there Dorothy's on the back of his truck. And now that's the truck that's leading the pack.

57:40 And this is also the follow up to Melissa freaking out because I mean, of course she had the car drop. She almost died, she almost died, and you know, Bill is like, you know, are you okay? She's like, no, I'm not okays. She It's like when I when I heard you chase tornadoes, I thought it was just a metaphor that was such a great lie. I thought it was a metaphor. So the crew is all back together now on the road and they are now in Bill's truck as they are driving, the three of them, and we see another tornado on the ground and Jonas' team are moving in as suddenly Joe and Bill drive right past them, and Bill is taking notices of the clouds. He notices that it's an up drap and he calls that it's gonna shift, and Joe is like, are you sure, and he's like, oh, I'm sure, and it's a sidewinder. It totally shifts. So they go off. The crew back up and hit a side road and they're following it, and of course Jonas watches as the tornado switches its heading. He gets pissed because he looks on his binoculars and he sees they're on the other side of the road, right in its path. Yeah. Yeah, they're just better at this. So they really are, because they're a ragpag group. So the car starts to take on some rain as they start to see what they think is an F two or an F three, and that's when Rabbit calls it in F three and tells them they can intercept it now, as it's not going to hang on long. So they move down the road and Joe tells Bill that they're in the core and they have to watch out as we see the tornado. We have one on one side of a river and one on another side. One on the other side splits into two, so now there's three tornadoes, but one, as they call a sister, which is on the left side of the road, right right right. So they are then whisked around the road couple of times by these tornadoes they blow past, and then that is it for that and they they gig out of the truck and they're celebrating once again. And that's when they decide that they are close to Watika, because Joe is attending to retrut or to Bill's truck and Dusty

59:15 comes over. He's like, I couldn't help. We're close to Wakita, you know, is you know? Is there any chance we could drop by megs. She's like, no, we're not invading my aunt, and he's like, well, we need food. So then the crew is all like food, food, It's it's a cute it's a cute moment. So they go to her aunt's house, Uh, smash cut because they always we are absolutely not going smash cut to Waquita. Yeah, and they're there, and they're and she's feeding them, you know, home cooked meals and letting them grab showers and and they're just hanging out having a good time. And this is a really great moment where everybody kind of shares their feelings a little bit. Yeah, gets to know each other. Uh. The ant has that great moment with Joe where she talks to her about like, you know, uh, well, uh, I'm so sorry he didn't just stay alone in misery forever. Yeah, I know. Oh is it so much to ask?

1:00:00 That's a great moment. Yeah, but we we so everybody's talking there. Then they realize, like we gotta get ready for whatever is gonna come next. But we also find out why Bill is called the extreme, which is my favorite moment. Oh yeah, yeah, please, because Melissa is asking, you know, why do you guys keep calling Bill the extreme? And Dusty's like, because he is the extreme. And that's when they tell this story apparently where Joe was setting up a spot to get some information on this tornado right in its path, and apparently Bill pulls up in a car half drunk or drunk, and also naked or half naked. Yeah. Yeah, They're difference is based in the steps out of the car with a whiskey bottle, says have a drink and chucks it in the tornado, and they quote that the bottle never hits the ground. The tornado took it. And that's when Bill says, honey, there was The basic story is that there was a Bill and an evil Bill and and I killed him. There was an evil Bill, and I killed it. They also noticed that Jonas is on TV and he's, you know, slinging some shit that they're not having, so they are boo. But yeah, this is about the time that they realize they have. Oh we also missed the big one. They talk about the uh Fujita scale, which is the F five is the most powerful tornado known to may Yeah, and Melissa's like, has anybody ever seen an F five? And Preacher, which is one of the Joe's crew, he's like, you know, oh, the finger of God and Bill goes one of us has and that's when they basically hint that that's what killed Joe's father.

1:01:15 Yeah, and that's when we saw at the beginning of the film that insane tornado that was an F five Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, Welcome back to do You Even? Movie? So they get another call that there are more tornadoes coming, so they have an F three gumming and Dusty calls for the game to get back on. Melissa then rides with Dusty this time as Joe and Bill get back in her truck, and we see them driving out again and they're jamming out. All of them are singing, all of them are playing there. Yeah, they're happy because their tom thumbs are full. Yep. And that is when Rabbit's advice. They decided to take a shortcut through a cornfield where they are going to hit the highway. They're going through the scornfield, they're not seeing anything, and suddenly they come out and almost hit Jonas's crew. Yeah, the highway comes up real freaking quick. Yeah, and they almost smash into him, and Jonas is like, you know, what the hell are you doing Joe, and Joe's like, oh, I didn't know you cared. Because the one thing we forgot to mention is when the truck comes down in front of Melissa and Joe's truck's totaled Jonas and his crew drive by and they don't stop. Yeah, they don't help them at all, which I mean, which is just not surprising because they're the de facto villains other than the tornado basically. So Bill is making a call from looking at the sky that Joe needs to turn left, and that's when they get to notice that a tornado is on the ground and on the road that they are on. But they can't get a visual you know. They're like, you know, Rabbit, where's his visual app? We don't have anything. He's like, no, no, it's on thirty six. We're you know, thirty five miles per hour, right, did you guys get over this hill, you're probably gonna see it.

1:02:45 Suddenly they see it and they decide to try and put Dorothy into action. So Bill gets out in the back. As they are driving down this road, Hale is going wind's blowing, and he's trying to get Dorothy up and running. Yeah, from the back of the truck while she's going fast. Joe's going faster and faster and faster and faster, and everybody's just trying to stay on the road. That Hale is so bad and the tornado just looks mean, look as hell. That is one thing about the tornadoes in this movie is when it says depictions of very bad weather, these are freaking scary storms, yes, all of them. So Dorothy is now prepped and the gang hangs back, letting them know that they're you know, they're gonna go to work to try to film as best they can. So Bill and Joe get back on the road and they stop while the tornado rages, having ahead of them, but it starts moving and taking out power lines, which end up falling onto the truck, knocking Dorothy out of the truck and spilling all the centers all over the road. Yeah. And at that point it becomes clear they're not gonna be able to do it this time. No. And and also I love the moment that they fail to deploy Dorothy. Yeah, multiple times. The moment they fail to they're like, oh shit, yeah, now let's not die. Yeah. Well, and also as the so as Dorothy is, as Dorothy is completely fucked out, the storm just suddenly vanishes, like it goes quiet, and Preacher's like, oh man, it's the cone of silence. And they lose it on the rain. They don't have any track of it, and that's when they comment that the storm is back building, and sure enough, storm's back way fierce again, and Joe doesn't want to give up, so Bill is trying to drag her, pull her away from the truck. They get in the truck and they're backing up and she actually gets out to start picking up the sensors, and that's when you know, he has to tell her, you know, what is this

1:04:16 about? You know, what, what are you trying to do? And she's like, you know, well, you've never seen a tornado miss that house, in that house and go right for your house. And that's when he realizes she still has a lot of hold back about the death of her father. Yeah, I I, I don't know why he would think that, just because he met a woman who dedicated her life to chasing tornadoes and her father was killed by a tornado. Yeah yeah, Why would you think there's any trauma there? Why would you think there's anything odd going on there? Geez, crazy jeepers, creepers. So that's when silly Billy, So silly Billy actually comments, you know, you have to live, you have to you have to see what's in front of you right now. You can't keep living in the past. And she's like, what do you mean, and he's like, well, I'm here, not knowing that all of this is going out to the radio and all of the crew are hearing is well and for the record, upon this viewing, while he does say I'm here, he doesn't say I want to stay married to you. Yeah, but he is literally there for her, yeah, and he's comforting her. This is a really sweet scene. Yeah, because because at first you think it's that it's that big moment, you know, like I'm still love with you, But then in the next thing he's with his lady friend. It's more that he bared his soul about it, and you really start to understand why their marriage wasn't working. She's a horrible communicator. She just cannot come in and you want to go even further. Think about that, Think about where where did he go for love? After a woman who would never talk about her feelings to a therapist. Therapist who always talks about feelings. Yeah and so, and you feel for her because you know she's hurt all this and

1:05:46 now she's like, I think he has feelings for her too, But it's not like their relationship is particularly healthy or or even productive. The fact that she's willing to die while someone she it's purported that she loves and respects and admires is standing there going don't die for me, and she's like, don't care. Yeah, it's it's a brutal moment, but it's a wonderful moment. But we're heading into an even more wonderful moment because the next scene, I believe is when we go to the drive our careator, Yes, as they arrive at a drive in movie theater which is showing the shining on a double feature Psycha with Alfred Hitchcock Psycha A Night of Horrors as the marketing Night of Horrors. And by this point, yeah, like I said, Melissa has now heard you know him talking to Joe, so she's a little a little suss with this, which I do want to point out. I love Melissa's character in this movie. She's really good and she's super likable. And the funny thing is I remember as a kid not liking her same because I was so on board with Joe and Bill Train because not all well then they did like the little movie things too, like they had like Bill has dark hair and Joe has blonde hair, and and that's a big thing in a lot of films, is like people want people with different colored hair to like each other. I know it's weird, but like, if you don't believe me, motherfuckers, watch watch a Lifetime movie, Watch like a Christmas romance movie. Watch your income. Not always, but often somebody's got to be

1:07:18 blonde and somebody's got to be brunette. Yeah, and usually the person that they should leave is the same hair color as them. It's not always the case, but I think it's mostly for diversity and for the eyes. Yeah. So you know, yeah, there's that moment where it's like subconsciously you're like, no, he can't be with the other brunette. He needs to be with Helen Hunt. We love Helen Hunt. Yeah, and so I feel I do, though I feel bad for her. But but you know what, no matter how bad I feel for that character, the fact that she said when you said you used to chase tornadoes, I thought it was a metaphor as one of the greatest lines in the whole film. Well, and she's a great addition too, Like I told you too, because it's like, this is a way for you to explain the weather patterns and all the information and stuff the movie to a character that would not know, but also to your audience. One of the most common elements is to have a fish out of water. Yeah, so that the audience can have it explained to them. Yeah, it's like having Spock on Star Trek or having data on Star Treking next generation. Having an outsider allows you to explain and expand on the human experience because you're talking to somebody as zero. It's very similar to like a lot of times, if this is something you could really check out, watch a movie about military people, they'll usually be like a woman character, like a girlfriend or whatever, Yeah, who just is not a part of everything, but has been dragged into it because it's like, well, I love my husband, I have to be whatever. And then she's the one who goes like, so what is uava? Oh that's a drone

1:08:48 aircraft bubblah bah, because no soldier would ask those questions. You need a non soldier to get that stuff across for the audience because the audience is not going to understand all the military jargon. Yeah, very similar concept. Yeah. So later that evening, the gangs that are drive in showing the shining. They're taking a breather, they're gathering the information, and we see Melissa as in a motel room as the TV reports more tornadoes on the rise. Joe's getting a coffee for the team, and she also steals a pen from the concession stand and starts to sign the divorce papers. Yeah, yep. And that's the other reason I didn't think that that scene was about them rekindling. Yeah, because it's almost like, after everything that happened, she's like, Okay, I owe to leave. Yeah, I owe it to him to let him leave, which is very sad but also very mature. Yeah, it absolutely is. So Bill comes up and he comments on how he thinks do Dorothy's sensors might be too light, or maybe the whole rig itself is too light. Both Melissa and bil Tho are watching TV as this happens, and they start to notice that the TV's getting static as the wind picks up, and outside, the wind is picking up and some thunders coming into and Dusty comes out screaming that it's coming. It's heading right for them, as Bill states, it's already here. And this is an awesome sequence too, because as the lightning strikes. You start to see that there's a cyclone beginning, often very close. Yeah, in the distance. Because the one thing too with this drive and scene is we actually you can see clips of the Shining specifically. It opens with Danny coming down the hallway as the two twins pop up with the hello Danny. Yeah, so you start to understand how much time has passed if you're familiar with the Shining. Yes, and

1:10:20 the tornado shows up right as here's giants sties going down, So we see a giant tornado moving in behind them. It starts to take out the screen as Bill and the rest of the gang try to get the safety as best as they can, and they start running towards a garage. And in the garage we watch as the roof is just ripped off. Debris starts to fly all around. We see flying hubcap comes through that actually cuts Preacher's forehead. A car is sent through the garage. The marquee of the of the drive in is sent through the garages. They're literally in the hole in the in the mechanic bed, Yeah, where mechanics go down underneath cars. Yeah, that's all they have to protect themselves. So there's nothing on top to protect them, so they're covering their faces from the glass and the shards and everything.

1:11:02 And I have to say that is one of the scariest sequences of the whole film entirely, and the moment it ended, I remember I turned to you and went, who the hell would want to keep chasing tornadoes? After that happened that night? Well, but unfortunately, as they get out of there, they realize that this adorable little town is decimated. Yes, there are fires everywhere, homes destroyed, families standing in the street not knowing what to do. And worse yet, her aunt was not immune to this disaster, as we initially see her with she has all these lawn decorations which I think she made, yeah, wind chimes and stuff, and they're spitting like crazy. So now her house has been really messed up and they go to check on her. They find her. She's fallen through to the basement of her house. So she wasn't in her baseball and the house is fucking split.

1:11:53 Yeah, yeah, the house is split and it's falling apart, But she was not in the basement. She fell to the basement and her dog is down there barking they've got to get her out. As they're trying to get her out, flotsam and jetsam is trying to fall on her. A TV set almost crushes her. They get her out, and thank goodness, she's a little hurt, but not severely. Her wrist is broken. She has a few cuts and scrapes and bruises. And as they get her into an ambulance, they find out that they're reporting off in the distance. They're predicting an F five about thirty five miles south or north south. And at that moment, though, I'd be really lost it because she said like, go, you have to help these people. And I was like, does she think that her niece stops? Hey, hey, hey, hey back up there, stop that, you stop that. But I know she's referring to that they are like trying to better predict tornadoes and stuff like that.

1:12:48 But it was just funny the way she says, like, you know, go so this doesn't happen again. It's like, well, she's not gonna just fly, she's not gonna yeah, she's not gonna build a wall to stop the tornado. Yeah, whatever, And that's when you also get you also get a sense of how much guilt that Joe has fun at this point. Yeah no he he is. She sorry. She feels just terrible about that, and she doesn't away blame herself for where the tornadoes go, which is insane, but also grief is insane. She apologizes for not being there, She apologizes for not being there soon enough, and Meg and Aunt Meg is just like, you know, you couldn't do anything. Yeah, you pulled me out the house. The house collapses as they pull her out. She was like, I heard the sirens and it was already hot here. Yeah. Yeah. So so they leave her in the ambulance to be taken care of and they get back on the goddamn road. One one interjection.

1:13:35 So at the end of the drive in sequence, Melissa comes up to Bill because she's like, you know, hey, I'm going back and was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, go go wait the motel, like it's safe, I'll be there in the morning. She's like, I'm not gonna be there, and that's when she basically says, you know, I I'm not mad, like I can see that you still love her and you know we would have never worked out anyway. I'm not mad like it, and I don't know how to feel about that, but it's okay. I love the iriage where he's like, uh, She's like, don't worry, I know the way home. Yeah yeah, which I really liked that moment. Yeah no, And it is a great moment, a sad moment, but a great moment well. And especially when he's like, you know, I never want any of this to happen. She's like, oh, Billy, I know that, like you she That's again like with this character, the way that they the way that they take her out of the movie, I mean, given they didn't take her out. Yeah. Honestly, rewatching it after having seen it, having not seen it for a while, part of me was like, does she I've I've got some trivia at the end that I that I'm curious, if you know, because there's something that I'm really curious about with this movie in regards to how it was originally concepted.

1:14:30 Well, well, before we get to that, we got to get to the F five, So let's go so on. So they reported that a F four is what hit Wakeita, but the upcoming might be and probably is, an F five. So joy Joe joins Megan the ambulance, who tells her. You know you've broken ris bubble the head. We've already settled that. So that's when you know, the ambulance takes off and Joe is looking at these wind chimes that are in Meg's yard, and that's when she realizes, I know how I can make Dorothy fly, which is and I love this movie. Yes, the weakest story point it is, so they they they come up with this idea to cut pepsi cans, pepsi pepsi the choice of a new generation very clearly product placement, yes, even though Jonas is a hack for selling out. Yeah, well that's pretty funny. I always wanted to imagine they're all eating doritos, But so they're cutting up pepsi cans and they and for some reason, in all of the time that they've all been scientists, none of them once thought of the concept of wind resistance and aerodynamics. So what they're doing is they're cutting up pepsi cans and making these little spiral wind things to catch the wind. And one touch though that I really loved as they were doing it, because they're like driving in cars doing it is I was like, that's not safe. And then I noticed their fingers are bloody, bloody with band aids all over, which have you if you've ever cut up a soda can, they're very, very sharp. So but I also love that they're like, Okay, new plan, we throw shrapnel into the tornado. But even as a kid, I remember going,

1:16:01 why didn't they think about wind when they designed it? But but it is a big story point. So now they are they're fully rejuvenated. They know that Dorothy is going to work, but they've got to get to this F five. They've got two Dorothy's this time too. They have two chances at this all together. So they've got their Dorothy. Both their Dorothys are loaded into Bill's truck and that's when they noticed that in front of them something is in the tornado. So they've driven to a tornado. They've dropped off one Dorothy. But they're like, something's in a is in the tornado. And before this, yeah, when when something has been in a tornado, it's like a tree branch, it's it's a or a tree or a tree, it's you know, flotsam and jetsam. But now we're seeing semi trucks and whole fucking houses. Yes, because as we see a oil or a gas tanker is what is in the tornado? Yes, it is not only pushed out of the tornado in front of them, which bumps them off this log that they get to because the one thing I forgot to mention is right as they lay down Dorothy, this thing starts throwing tree limbs at them, which one of them wedges Dorothy out and then also gets under their truck. Yeah, and they're stuck stuck, so the tanker actually knocks them loose, so they start driving. Well, then the tornado picks the tanker back up and drops it right in front of them, and it explodes into a giant ball of fire. Giant ball of fire. And one of my favorite parts is when they contact them on the radio, go, did you guys see that?

1:17:25 Yeah, It's like, no, they missed it because they have to drive through it. Off He's like, no, they missed the giant fireball. Yeah, So they drive through it and that's when Dusty radios, you know, they Okay, they see the explosion. Bill and Joe then realize that they have one Dorothy left. And this is also at the time they hear Jonas is on the radio and he is right at the base of the tornado, which they say that the base of this tornado is like basically a mile wi yeah, because they can't see it at first. Yeah, and that's when they're like, the base must be a mile wide. That's why we're not seeing it, because we're already there. We're already in it. Yeah. So they're like, you know, Jonas, you know, wait down the pack and that's when Bill is like, hey, Jonas, what path are you on? And he's like, oh, we're going this direction and he's like you got to back off, like this thing's gonna turn. They're trying to save their quote unquote enemies because they're heading right into the most dangerous tornado possible, and Jonas's helper, he's like, you know, maybe we shouldsten to him. He's he wouldn't put us in harm's way, like he's actually thinking logical about it. Jonas doesn't want to hear it, so they just keep driving and that's when suddenly they are impaled by a what is it. It's like an antenna for like a it would be it would be like a one of those climbable antennas that people have in the country so they can get further distance tells right through their car. Yea. The tornado picks up the car, drops into a field and just blows up. Damn.

1:18:32 I mean like pretty brutal, pretty brutal, pretty freaking brutal. And that's when Bill is like, you know, he's frustrated with it, so he throws the radio aside and they keep driving. As now the tornado is back on their tail again, and this time they passed this little tractor place and that's when the tornado starts picking up tractors and dropping them. And that's the part where Joe says, oh, we got to breathe, and he goes debris, yeah, because it's whole track, whole tractors. It's not debris. No, No, whole tractors being dropped right in front of them. And then not to mention, a fucking house then rolls onto the road. Yeah, and they have to punch the truck through the house and it literally goes through a dining room and goes through a living through a bathroom, yeah, and punches out the other side. That's, of course, I mean, one of the greatest most we're we're going and also one of the things I caught this time that I didn't before? Was that that bear that hits their truck and bounces off? Oh yeah, teddy bear. Yeah. So now they have decided that they have one chance at this one chance left, and they got one Dorothy left. So they're going to actually sacrifice the truck with Dorothy in it, because that's the way they're going to weigh down the pack. So they set a path right towards the tornado, and they decide to sacrifice the truck, driving it right into the twister and jumping out right before it hits. They watch the truck keep going forward, and Dorothy then releases her sensors and they have success. As they are getting all their information, we see the computer light up with all that. And also the truck completely gets sucked into the twister. Yeah, that's gone, but their mission was a success. Yeah. And yet again as I mentioned, now, yeah, it's like, oh wait, we've got to not die. Yeah,

1:20:03 and we also have no vehicle. No vehicle and no, I mean, and the shelter nearby really doesn't matter. No, So they are they are booking it towards this farm. So we see this tornado is right on their path. They're booking it towards this farm. They go into the farm, They go into the farm itself, the barn, and they see, you know, they think they're safe until they see a bunch of slaughterhouse and farming implements. Yeah, they realize they're surrounded by nothing but sharp tools, which means this is not the right place for that. And I love Bill Paxson's like, I don't think so I'm gonna say no on that one. Yeah, So they leave the barn right as the fernado demolishes, it closing in on them, and that's when they find shelter at this little shed, and that's when they decide that they're going to tie themselves to this pipe because they have the pipe that goes like thirty feet downs what Paxston says. So they belt themselves of this pipe and that's when the tornado just breaks in starts going through the shed, and we see the coolest shot as they both take flight. They're tied around the pipe and Joe gets to see the inside of a tornado. We are seeing the inside of a tornado. Is she's looking up yep, and she finally gets that moment she wanted, finally gets that moment that she wanted it rages on before once again dispersing again causing more to breed a fall the tornado has left. At this point, we see a family come out of their storm shelter and also surveying the damage, which it turns out to be everything except their house. Yeah, which, but you know what, I like that part. I love this part. Yeah, because that is a reality though. Is sometimes it just goes through and it's like why not this and this and this? Yeah, it just is that just it just didn't. And also I love the way that they show the family emerging because we see the dad come out, who looks exactly like Joe's

1:21:35 dad, Yeah, holding a kid who looks exactly like Joe, and then the rest of the family can Then the mom comes out with two more kids and yeah, so they the family comes out of the storm shelter. They're surveying the damage. Joe and Bill check on one another, and they celebrate their victory before Joe starts laying out you know, well, I gotta i gotta do the lab. You gotta do the lab analysts. I'll run the lab. And he's like, no, no, no, I'm gonna run the lab. You do the analyst and she starts arguing with him, and he's like, you have to make everything so difficult. So the rest of the crew shows up. They're celebrating. They say they got so much information coming in right now, and the best part is no one important got hurt. No one important got hurt. And they also go, hey, look at the sky, and Joe and Bill are like, we've seen it, and they go in for a kiss and the camera pulls away, and that, my friends, is the end of nineteen ninety six's Twister. Yes, indeed, a film with not the most thick story, no, but an incredible amount of action and fun characters and great one liners. It is the It is a definitive summer action blockbuster movie, absolutely, and I enjoyed the hell out of it revisiting it in its entirety, because, like we've said, you catch it on TV all the time. So would you like to know some fun things about the film, I would not, Well, too bad. What do you think the budget was? H Oh, there's an estimation, There is no confirmed ninety so eighty eight to ninety two million is the estimation. Okay, that's that's pretty close. Opening weekend it makes forty one million dollars. On May tenth of nineteen ninety six. It grosses in the US box office two hundred and forty one million, and then box office

1:23:08 International and US takes in four hundred and ninety five point seven million. That's pretty damn good. Yes. Filming began on May first and nineteen ninety five and ended on July twenty second, ninety ninety five, after two months, eleven weeks or eighty two days of filming. I mean, that's actually not bad for a movie that that intense. So it was shot in Bolton, Ontario, Canada. It was shot in Guthrie, Oklahoma, Boone, Iowa, and Burbank, California. Well that is a combo, yes, with a very loud and base heavy surround channel. The film was notorious for destroying surround speakers for theaters worldwide. I believe that. Yeah, there's another Storm movie that I saw in the theater that I literally thought the theater was going to break. Yeah, from how intense the sound was, I can believe that. I'll mention it later when we do our suggestions for similar movies.

1:23:56 Filming in Oklahoma was briefly delayed due to the bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April nineteenth, nineteen eighty five. Many of the crew went to the site to help with recovery efforts. God damn you, Tim McVeigh. We got a movie to make. A recording of a camel's moan was slowed down and used as the sound of the tornado. I don't know I feel about that. You could hear it? I could. I can tell you like listening to it and knowing that this time, Dave is like, listen, take it from somebody who's heard of camel moan a couple of times, if you know what I mean, and we knew that was a camel moaning. A jet engine from a Boeing seven oh seven was used to generate wind in some scenes. I believe that one thousan. According to the making of the book, the CGI cow picked up by the Twister sisters was originally a CGI zebra from Jimunji a year prior. Uh oh, yeah, okay. One of the reasons Yan Debant signed on to direct the film was that, given the rapid rise of CGI in the nineteen nineties, he saw this as perhaps the last opportunity to direct a large scale film with practical effects. Time time proved that he was right. After the CGI's fast evolution in later years caused the almost to cause the almost total abandon to make large scale movies with practical effects. Well, and think about this for a moment, David, nineteen ninety six, or let's say ninety five, Okay, fifteen years after nineteen ninety five, Yeah, thirty five millimeter film was completely phased out. Yeah, that's how quickly it happened. Yeah, but in nineteen ninety five there wasn't even high def video. No, there wasn't

1:25:29 even a video camera with cinematic lenses. There wasn't even twenty four frame per second video yet. Yeah, that would come about in two thousand and three, two thousand and four. Damn. So he's right. That's how quick the industry was going to be changing a lot in the next five years. But the next fifteen years it was almost going to be unrecognizable. Yeah to many people. Oh, it's crazy. He does Speed in ninety four and then does Twister two years later. Where I mean Speed was I think all practical effects. I'm not mistaken. Oh, I mean there may have been a touch up here and there and there with Twister. There were probably a couple touchoups, but overall it was a very heavy, practical effects film. Yeah. Several incidents during filming made the papers, such as an altercation where director Yan Debant was supposedly pushed uh was supposedly pushed a crew member into the mud. Debott later explained that they were filming a particularly difficult scene, one that involved actors doing physical and dangerous performances with lots of wind and objects flying around. He suddenly noticed a crew member walking towards the front of the camera, so he dashed towards the man and pulled him away just in time to save the shot. There were also reports of friction between Debant and the original director of photography, veteran Don Burgess, which led to Burgess and twenty other disgruntled crew members walking out a few weeks into shooting. Debot, who is a former director of photography, had to operate the camera himself until Burgess was replaced by jack En Green. Let me say something, m hm, Yes, it sucks when a shot is ruined, Yeah, by somebody carelessly walking in or whatever. You don't shove people, No, that's that's really all

1:27:03 I'm trying to say is you do not put your hands on somebody. Now, if it were to protect them physically, absolutely, if they were going to get hurt or trip or something, or if that was what you were afraid of, that's one thing. But putting your hands on somebody physically and shoving them, pushing them, whatever, so that your SHOT's not ruined, if that happened to me, we'd have problems. Yeah, absolutely, I'd be like, use your goddamn words. Of course, maybe it was too loud, Yeah, but you still you can't shove people. No, you cannot. And it's like and listen, like this is produced by Steven Spielberg.

1:27:44 Yeah, you'll get another fucking takes will anyway. So the production bought eight blocks of houses in the old downtown area of the real town of Waquito, Oklahoma, for seven thousand to ten thousand per house. These houses, in an additional thirty homes built by the production were some sequently subsequently demolished by the film's crew for the scenes after the Twister passes. The town later rebuilt the town area and also kept the new fire truck used in the film. That's good. I like that. That's a hap happy situation. In a public Q and A, Bill, Paxton said he didn't meet executive producer Steven Spielberg until a year and a half after finishing the movie. He said Spielberg greeted him with thanks for making me a lot of money. Fucking Spielberg, I love that. Yeah. Tom Hanks was the original choice for the role of Bill hart. Hanks read the lines with the cast and even chose the character's wardrobe, which stayed in the final film. He dropped out of pre production and said it wasn't what I was trying to do with my career at that time. It called for an eccentric man with the Southern flare, and that just wasn't me. Hanks went on to help Paxton land the role, as he felt his Apollo thirteenth co star was the perfect for the role.

1:28:45 I've heard of Hank's well. Tom Hanks produced Big Love, correct, So he's always been a big proponent of Paxton. Yeah. I think Hanks would have been way too on the nose. Yeah, as a big star at that time, So Bill Harding was almost played by Mel Gibson, Kevin Costner, Dennis Quaid, John Travolta, Richard Gear, John Cusack, Nicholas Cage, Bruce Willis, Val Kilmer, Kurt Russell, and Michael Keaton. I could see Willis and I could see Cage, Kurt Russell. No, because because because Bill's not cool. Yeah he's a he's a geek. Yeah, he's he's a cool geek. Keaton could. I feel like if Michael Keaton played Bill, we'd be wondering, like where the bodies are because he'd be like, all right, we're gonna catch the storm. Canny be scowling, and you'd be like, what is wrong with him? You want to get storms, you want to get tornadoes. Let's get tornadoes. No, I love him, but I feel like he's too dark. Paxton is that perfect, Like he's eccentric, but he's not. He's not automatically threatening. Yeah, he's funny, but he's not too funny. You almost feel like, I don't know. He is a real sweet spot as an actor, and I feel like most of those options would be weird. Like I mean, in nineteen ninety six, Nicholas Cage might have worked really well because he was very malleable. Yeah, you know, NAT six would have been the year

1:30:15 after conn Air. Yeah, and con Air is a great example. It was not a nick cage like being wacky. He was totally different. But I think even he would have maybe been too big or quite so subtle. Paxton very subtle in a movie that is as subtle as a punch in the face. This is true, just my opinion. So Do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie. It was Spielberg's idea to kill out the father in the opening scene. Originally he would have survived, but it was decided his death would establish how dangerous tornadoes can be and the reason for Joe's obsession with them later in If he hadn't died, it would have been like, why did you even show us that? Yeah? Uh, she was scared once, like come on.

1:31:05 The explosion of the oil tanker was originally mistimed and was not caught on film. Dubont decided not to tell the studio immediately, and the stunt was reset and filmed again, costing a rumored five hundred thousand dollars. It absolutely would cost that much. Yeah. According to an urban legend, a tornado hit a drive in theater in Stony Creek, Ontario while the movie was playing. Twister In reality, a tornado hit a drive in theater in Thorhoed, Ontario on May twentieth, nineteenninety six, damaging a screen. The movie was not playing when the tornado hit, but it was scheduled to play that evening. That's funny, yeah, okay. Yon Dubant, a vegetarian, has stated that he hated filming the scene at Aunt Meg's house when everyone is eating stick and eggs. Oh poor baby days was sunshine posed a problem because they did not make background skies looks suitably stormy. In order to fix this and prevent delays, several sequences, such as the truck cab sequences had to be flooded with high intensity key leg lights for better contrast. Hunt and Paxton bo suffered minor retinal burns through much of the filming. You'd be amazed the things you have to do to get the light to look a very specific way. Yeah.

1:32:06 Well, I always remember that scene in uh what's the from Missaldon documentary called Book until Boogie where they're waiting on that shot by the gas station for the clouds. Yeah, they're waiting for the clouds to move and for the sun to get lower. Yep. Yep. Debat said he regretted thinking of the hail sequence because it took so long to do and was very difficult. The crew weren't able to find ice blocks big enough in Oklahoma. They ended up fighting them and finding them in other states, and some were obtained from Burlington Ice Company in Iowa. The ice blocks were made special by pouring milk in with the water so the hail would show up better. Yeah, that makes sense to make them a little bit more opaque. In an early scene, when Hoffman is sitting on a lawn chair, he lifts his leg in the air wall laughing. His genitals were fully exposed and visible for a split second. It was edited out on the DVD and VHS releases, but it was leaked no CGI, but it was leaked to release the cut with the Ball. It was leaked from VHS screeners sent to industry professionals. Somebody leaked it. That was an industry professional release. The Seamo where the film Seymour Hoffman cut. The project was a co production between Universal Pictures and Warner Brothers.

1:33:09 That is why the drive in Marquee shows cycle and shining as it's double bill. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Jonas is vilified for selling out to corporate sponsors, which is ironic considering Pepsi's very prominent product placement. When the team is making the wings for the censors all of the cancer Pepsi products, and almost all the shots showing the doppler, the colors spiral inward and morph into the Pepsi symbol. Yeah they really do, Yeah they do. Twister floated around the industry for several years and was seen as a very sought after project before moving into production very early and on in development before Yon de Bant was attached to it. Steven Spielberg, Robert Zemechis, Tim Burton, John Carpenter, James Cameron, and John Badham were considered approach or attached to direct the film at various points in pre production. Spielberg served as executive producer. Wow, I could see Bob Zamechis or Cameron, Tim Burton Timbaha, gosh, you can joke about that if you want to, just hate it. Garth Brooks, Mark que and Chris Farley turned down the role of Dustin Davis. Mark Cuban, that's what said. Does Mark Cuban acting in the ninth have no idea Christopher McDonald was considered for the role of doctor Jonas Miller, but was already committed to Happy Gilmore in nineteen ninety six, where he coincidentally plays a similar arrogance smug villain. Alec Baldwin, Peter Green, and Hugh Laurie were also considered. Wait, so the other ultimate prick character actor? Yeah, which is funny because he actually shows up in Perfect Storm as the meteorologist he does. Yeah, God damn, that's so funny.

1:34:33 Director Yon Debont didn't want to work with famous actors because they're notoriously demanding nature and diva behavior, instead of going for lesser known actors in order not to draw away the attention from the Tornadoes. He said that the hardest actor to cast was Helen Hunt. Dubont really wanted her to play the lead because he loved her strong persona and ability to boss people around, which reminded him of The Whirlwind. However, the studio was puzzled over to Bont's choice since Hunt was only known for doing TV sitcoms at the time so trancers, so they pressured him into a hole hold audition additional auditions. Debat said that these auditions were really embarrassing since he had to tell every actress who turned up that he already had set his mind on Helen Hunt, and afterwards informed the studio that he was unable to find a more suitable actress. Jez Man was shot as an R rated film that featured profanity and grizzly or wound details. The film was edited down to a PG thirteen in post production, which caused additional scenes would carry Elways and Philip Seymour Hoffman to be left on the cutting room floor due to content alone. Other profanities throughout the film were muted or replaced to secure the PG thirteen rating. Why would you ever want to do Twister as an R rated film? That's what I was wondering, because if there is an R rated cut, I would to fucking see it. I just don't.

1:35:40 It doesn't make sense to me though, Like it's it's an action movie about bad weather. Yeah, Like why does it need it doesn't need to be an R rated movie? Yeah, it just doesn't make sense. And finally, not counting the prologue set during Joe's childhood, the entire film takes place in twenty four hours. And that is very true. That was the first time I ever noticed it from this watch. So yeah, so that is the fun facts on Twister. So what are your final thoughts on nineteen ninety six's Twister. H Part of me wants to say by it, but part of me thinks that that's nostalgia speaking. Okay, it is a fun movie. It is certainly a rent it. It is certainly a film that's worth viewing and enjoying. Yeah, I don't know if it needs to be in your library because it's always on well, and it's a fun movie.

1:36:29 But it's not like it's a poignant movie. It's not like it's a movie that will change your life even moderately. It is just a perfect blockbuster. Yeah, fun movie. It's like it's like saying, you know Deep Rising, Yeah, does is Deep Rising have to be in your collection? It does not? But is Deep Rising fucking awesome oday? It is? Yeah, the show soon guarantee you that. So I think I'm gonna go with rent it on this one. I'm gonna stick with a buy it and it could be as for nostalgi just say, but I fitch, I think this is just one of those movies that, even if it's not perfect, it is it's just so much fun to watch the runtime flies by, because you and I were even talking about it, it does fly by. And also it's just it's a time capsule of both storm chasing in the nineties but also blockbusters of the nineties. Yeah. No, it is an epitome. Yeah, I mean it's it's one of the few that's not like Jurassic Park.

1:37:23 Yeah, you know, it's it's it's a different type of blockbuster at the time, and it feels very loved. It feels like a very loved movie because I think I don't really think I've ever met anybody that doesn't like Twister, to be honest, m maybe you're probably gonna be now to what They're probably gonna meet somebody now, oh yeah, the comments on this on this episode, Oh yeah, they'll be They'll be there, don't worry. So as we get get ready to get out of here, we always like to end the show with a couple of recommendations. I have two this week. First one being Knight of the Twisters from nineteen ninety six. This is a TV movie and it says the residents of a small town come face to face with a deadly and unpredictable series of tornadoes. Among them is one boy struggling to keep his family safe and dangerous weather. It was one that played on ABC Family or Fox Family back in the day a lot, and I do know for a fact that YouTube may or may not have it right now.

1:38:10 That is my first recommendation, and my second recommendation, I'm gonna go with Debont's directorial debut, Speed from nineteen ninety four. Young police officer must prevent a bomb exploding aboard a city bus by keeping its speed above fifty miles per hour. This is where you can see Debat really has a knack for this type of blockbuster. But also Speed is just a really really fun movie and also one where the runtime flies by. Again. I love Speed. We watched it, we revisited a couple of years ago, or like probably four years ago, and that was such a fun night. Yeah. I No, Speed is a hell of a good time. Yeah. So what is your recommendation? Well, mine is going to have to be twenty Fourteen's Into the Storm Hell, Yes, which is a I think a very underrated storm film. Yeah. I saw it in the theater and I thought some place was gonna explode because the storm sounds were so intense. It's got a great past. It's got Matt Walsh in it, comedian I love. It's got Richard Armitage, Sarah Wayne Kallis and Callie's in it as well, a lot of recognizable faces. But most of all, one of the most daunting storm scenes ever where Matt Walsh is in his storm truck and it gets pulled into the tornado and he ends up at the top of the storm, yeah, and can see above everything, and it's like the most beautiful, terrifying thing you've ever seen. I think Into the Storm is a perfect storm horror movie.

1:39:33 Yeah. I caught it on cable like three or four years after I saw it in the theater while I was in a hotel like traveling. Yeah, and I was like, damn, it is a good movie. It's fun. It still holds up. Don't let the first twenty minutes turn you off from it, because you do meet the redneck characters that really don't do much of the storm stuff at first, like fifteen. I mean, it's kind of a found footage style movie too, which I think makes it scary. It absolutely does. So I can't recommend it to the storm enough I think people should definitely check it out if you haven't already. So are those are our recommendations for this week. Would you like to know what we're talking about next week? Absolutely not, Well you should because we're going back to children's movies with nineteen ninety three's The Sandlot, one of my all time favorite films from when I was a kid. Yes, a film that might make me well generally makes me cry. So well, we have an email.

1:40:20 Oh so let's see. Okay, this one is from uh oh, by the way, if you want to email us, you can send us an email. Do you even movie at Gmail? Do you even movie pod at gmail dot com? Or go to dooevenmovie dot com. Yep, this is from our buddy Kevin Potoff. Okay, he said. The subject line is my kid just got her driving permit. Oh man, Hello guys, my daughter has just received her driver's permit. Can you please review License to Drive nineteen eighty eight The two Coreys kill it in this movie. Thanks for the great entertainment. I promote you even movie and Weekly Spooky as much as possible.

1:41:01 Awesome, Thanks again, Kevin Potter, Thank you, thank you Kevin. That uh that's a possibility. I haven't seen licenses driving so long. That could be a fun, fun one for soon. I mean figure it out. Uh, it's a summer yeah, film like so Dave is the man, so Dave will if if it happens, it'll be because of Dave. And if you're let down, it's also because of Day. We're going to see how easy it is to find right now because I know that DVD and blue Raar, I think you're out of print. I think you're right. Is it stream it's streaming, it's gotta be. No, it's gotta be. It's nowhere. Hang on, it's loading. No, it's not, it's it says it's load. Oh oh oh oh no. Yeah, you could rent it. You can rent it on p Yeah. But yeah, that's absolutely a possibility. But yeah, absolutely, it's definitely in our wheelhouse. Absolutely so. And do you want to give away what we're doing in August? Oh? Yes, I would love to give away we're doing in August. So unfortunately, this past week we did find out that a legendary comedian, musician, painter, painter, actor, a man carried many hats. Martin Moull left us carried many hats, carried many hats. Indeed, Okay, we unfortunately lost him this past week to I think that was at age eighty. I think he was a little older though, Okay, eighty or eighty one, I can't remember. But we are going to kick off August or should I call it August. Please don't by highlighting four of our favorite Martin male films, because the one thing that I didn't notice is while he is in everything, his film list is a little shorter than I

1:42:32 thought it was because he was on TV all the time. Well, I remember the first time I remember seeing him was on Sabrina, the team against which yep, yep, so and yes passed away eighty years old. Eighty years old. Yeah, so we will be kicking off August or ma August, as I said, yeah, which either it's either going to be I think it's either going to be Clue or Missus Doubtfire were the two that we that we decided don't give away every Oh no, no, no, I'm not you just give away that it's going to be Martin Maule movies. Well, I'm just I'm just I'm just kidding people excited, are you? Oh yoh yes, oh yes, Well we'll be back for that, but we want to remind you all you could email us at do You Even moviepotat gmail dot com. You find out more about the show at dooevenmovie dot com. Please consider supporting us on Patreon. Yes, it really makes a big difference.

1:43:14 If you give us three dollars a month, we'll give you every episode four days early on the Patreon. Yes, sir, and we really do appreciate the support very very much. And it is very late at night. I am so tired, I might have a little bit of a headache. So I'm just gonna do this before I kill you. Now it's pointed, damn mouth. Oh fair enough, Hey, sounds so much better. Oh, let's do the show again. All right? Tick two? But thank you guys for hanging out with this. We will see you next Tuesday on do You Even Movie Audios. We'll see you