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Dec. 10, 2024

The Ref (1994) - A Darkly Hilarious Christmas Comedy with Denis Leary

The Ref (1994) - A Darkly Hilarious Christmas Comedy with Denis Leary

Henrique Couto and David Denoyer revisit The Ref (1994), Ted Demme’s sharply written Christmas hostage comedy starring Denis Leary, Judy Davis and Kevin Spacey. Scripted by Marie Weiss and Richard LaGravenese, the film turns an affluent Connecticut family’s holiday collapse into a collision of crime, marriage counseling and acid one-liners. The hosts explain why this mid-1990s favorite belongs beside darker seasonal comedies rather than conventional Christmas comfort viewing.
After a robbery goes wrong, cat burglar Gus takes constantly feuding couple Caroline and Lloyd Chasseur hostage. A police search prevents his escape, so Gus stays through their Christmas Eve gathering and poses as the couple’s counselor. Lloyd’s domineering mother Rose, their troubled son Jesse and an extended family full of resentments make the house more dangerous by the minute. Before long, the armed criminal becomes the only person capable of forcing everyone to communicate honestly.
The episode celebrates Leary’s ideal casting as Gus: cynical, furious and verbally ruthless, yet gradually more invested in his captives than he wants to admit. Davis and Spacey match that energy as a married couple whose insults conceal real hurt, while Glynis Johns makes Rose an unforgettable holiday antagonist. Henrique and David single out the dinner sequence, in which family secrets, blackmail, candles and an increasingly desperate Gus converge into the movie’s comic centerpiece.
The hosts preserve their discovery of The Ref through repeated Comedy Central broadcasts and discuss why its jokes and performances have aged into an annual December revisit. Production and career context covers Demme, Weiss and LaGravenese, the film’s recognition among underseen comedies and Leary’s ability to move between explosive humor and grounded drama. Side conversations retain their reactions to Nutcrackers and Hot Frosty without tying the notes to a release window.
Both hosts give The Ref a confident “buy it.” They recommend it for the memorable one-liners, unusually strong ensemble and sincere ideas about love, resentment and the possibility of change inside a dysfunctional family. Their companion holiday picks include Trapped in Paradise and Mixed Nuts, two more 1994 Christmas comedies built around criminals, crises and chaotic gatherings.
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An sneak preview This Friday.

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In a world where podcasts reigned supreme, two friends dare

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to ask.

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Do You Even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie officionado David Denyer.

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Spoiler alert, Hello, my friends, and welcome back to Do

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You Even? Movie? I am your host, Enrique Kuto here

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with my buddy double D David Denier. Holidays, Happy holidays.

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Indeed smell Captains, I.

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Do not smell catis.

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Ah a reference to the movie we are watching tonight

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or we're talking about tonight? We already watched Tonight as

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part of the second film in our holiday deluge. Yes,

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and but before we get to that, I just want

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to tell you I'm I'm I'm I'm a little hurt.

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You're hurt by your action, my actions of what well.

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I recently had my second cold of the year. Yes,

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yes you did, and I'm still last week, you could

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hear how basy I sounded. Now I'm completely unsick and congested,

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and I'm hacking stuff up all day long. It's honestly

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one of my favorite hobbies. But I'm just a little

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sad because, you know, the last time I got sick,

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we both were sick and we could not we couldn't

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figure out who gave who the illness. Yeah, because we

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saw each other on Sunday and Tuesday and Friday, yeah

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I think it was, and we were sitting or something

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like that. It was Friday, Sunday, Tuesday, so like there

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was just no way to know who was the first

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ill person. But that means there's a fifty to fifty

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chance you gave me that illness and then you didn't

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get sick from my being ill, which is not cool.

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I don't appreciate you opting out.

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If I can bring my complaint to this chat. I

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have chapped lips for the first time, and God knows

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how fucking.

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Long well, Lord knows what you've been doing with those

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damn things.

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Legitimately, Like I have berts what is it a beeswax?

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Bees wax?

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Yeah, Birt's bees wax in my pocket right now because

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I've not had chapped lips.

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even in the winter.

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Most people wear chapstick in the wind winter.

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Yeah, and I cannot tell you literally the last time

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that I got chapped lips to this degree where it's

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just like I woke up and knew that I had

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chap lips, Like I can feel them all the time now.

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And that's my problem. I know, it's it's so awful,

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but yeah, you uh, you've been sick for a bit now.

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Well, the problem is when you have like a problem

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with your throat, yeah, and then you talk five hours

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a day, it doesn't tend to get better. No, even

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if the rest of you gets better, the throat stays

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in rough shape. Yeah, So that's what I've been dealing with.

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I used to think that your your voice got you know,

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that kind of baritoninus when you were sick. I used

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to think it was because of like of congestion and

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and and phlam flam flow for those listening on headphones flam.

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But it turns out and and everybody's gonna be like,

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no shit, But I didn't know this. It's actually because

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your vocal cords are swollen. So they're physically bigger. Yeah,

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so they make more bass because of the size of them,

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and it's awful and it doesn't get better if you

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talk hours a day.

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Yeah. So you really don't have a way around that.

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December we're running a ton of bonus shows at weekly spooky. Yeah.

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So it has been a journey. This weekend, I had

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to record like the least amount I could get away

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with and try resting my voice and I'm just now

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about to my normal level of bass. Uh No, I

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don't get sick a lot. This one was definitely Rachel's fault.

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She she gave me this ill listen after not getting

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sick the last time I was sick, yeah, which was

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extra week. She like lived in the same house and

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never got sick, never got sick. But this go around,

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it has not been a good time.

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It has not we even we even had to miss

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our Thanksgiving marathon, but we made up for it this

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past Sunday because we watched two movies that were pretty fantastic.

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We did, although for the record, I never canceled her

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Thanksgiving marathon. We just never put it on the book.

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Well, I knew you were not feeling good. I hadn't

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heard from you.

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Well that was that was the weekend up. Yeah. Yeah,

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I mean I was very very sick. Yeah, but yes,

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we watched two films. Yeah, worth worth talking about one

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worth talking about a lot, Yes, which would be twenty

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twenty four, this year's Nutcrackers, Yes, directed by David.

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Gordon Green and starring Ben Stiller.

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And starring Ben Stiller in his first starring role in

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seven years.

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That's crazy, yeah, because it seemed like for a while

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there you just couldn't get away from him.

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Was his last big one?

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Shit?

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What was that movie called The I Want No Welcome

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to marm with Steve Hearrell. Yeah, I'm trying to think

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what his last big movie was then? If it was

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seven years ago, was.

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It that world of Walter Smithy Your Waybe?

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That's what I'm thinking. No, Walter Smitty, I think was

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or something like that. I think now I'm curious.

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Oh boy, they just got to dive into the crap.

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But excuse me, I was trying to not cough into

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the microphone. But Nutcrackers is a heartwarming Christmas time tale

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filmed in Wilmington, Ohio, which is forty minutes from where

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we're sitting right now. Filmed with a lot of local people,

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starring local children of the area and Ben Stiller. As

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we mentioned, it's about a family kind of reconnecting through tragedy.

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Ben Stiller plays a business focused family member who has

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to come to a little town in Ohio to figure

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out what to do with his sister's orphaned boys.

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Boy status is the last boy Brad's Status.

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I never heard to that one.

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That was one.

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I think it was like an indie. I think it

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was the one with the drug the sun that's on

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drugs that he's trying to help.

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Oh, I watched that. Yeah, it was good.

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I've heard it's good.

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Yeah, No, I did watch that. That was really good.

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So yeah, I think it was his last one though.

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That was twenty seventeen.

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Wow. Yeah, yeah, so it's been a while since he'd

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starred in a film. And I just found the movie

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to be charming, extremely funny, extremely funny, and and what

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you'd expect from David Gordon Green.

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It was.

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It was very It had a lot of great bizarre humor,

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a lot of dark humor, but always hit you in

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the heart at the end.

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So much heart hitting my God.

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Yeah, and it's available on Hulu right now, So I

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do recommend you check out Nutcrackers, especially if you need

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a brand new holiday film to really just punch you

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in the fields and not let go.

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So what did you what did you think of fifteen

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minutes was?

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I mean, like, the whole movie was great, but that

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last fifteen minutes, which is the performance and everything just

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so sweet. Ben stillers so good in it because not

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only is he showing up and kind of like really

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doesn't want much to do with the kids at first,

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but then through the movie just kind of like the

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friends them finds out how cool they are, how talented

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they are.

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I mean just a great, a great display of.

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And that part is honestly the most cliche part of

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the whole movie. But the way it's done is very

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fun and offbeat. Yeah, and I really loved that about it.

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And has a fair amount of David Gordon Green alumni

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in it, because you've got the one guy from Halloween

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that I can never remember his name.

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I mean, I mean it's like he's got, he's got

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his crew. Yeah, he's got, he's got and uh co

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starring Linda Cardelin. Ye. I loved it I just really

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possibly in my top ten of the year, So you're

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gonna rewatch it next week, as you should.

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So.

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But the other one we watched is one that's been

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taking social media by storm. Yes, it has a little

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Netflix movie for those who've heard of Netflix called Hot Frosty.

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Hot Frosty indeed, and I fucking love that title.

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It's the perfect tit.

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It is the perfect title, absolutely, So.

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Why don't you give the rundown on Hot Frosty.

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So Hot Frosty, according to IMDb, is the story of

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widow Kathy magically brings a stowman to life. His innocent

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help innocence helps her heal and fine love again. They

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bond before the holidays, but he's doomed to melt.

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That's a terrible synopsis in my opinion, I think.

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But that's accurate.

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That's accurate, But there's so much more to because even

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though it is it has the romantic comedy elements and whatnot.

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He literally helps the entire town, the friends, the entire town.

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It's like the story of Frosty the Snowman.

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Yes, yes, exactly, Yeah, do you Even movie will be

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right back, welcome back to do You Even movie?

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He was a holly, jolly soul.

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He was a hollow, jolly soul and the mo. The

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movie stars Lacey Shabert and Dusty Milligan. Lacey Shabert of

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course from Mean Girls, and Dusty who you may remember

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his Ted from Shit's Creek. He plays the snowman in it.

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And it was just it was one of those movies

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that I wanted to see solely because when I heard

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about heard the title, and heard about the synopsis, I

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was like, this sounds like it could be really bad

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or really fun.

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Yeah, And it was really fun.

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It was super super fun. It hits all the notes

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you expect from a holiday rom com. I'm very partial

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to holiday rom coms as am I and I got

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a very big kick out of it. Yeah. But yeah,

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and you want to talk about brilliant writing. Having Frosty

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be like a buff hot dude, yeah, and then having

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having him be constantly cold or needing to be cold,

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to be cold, yeah, is the perfect recipe for him

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to basically never have a shirt on ye during winter. Yeah.

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But I really help for that actor because some of

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those scenes looked like it was legitimately very cold.

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In two of the Best Kept Secrets, of the film

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where Craig Robinson and Joe Litrulio because that them as

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the cops a bunch of comic relief for one, but

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also Craig Robinson's trying to find out one of the

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crimes that Frosty committed in the beginning of the movie

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the entire movie, and is just this cop that's just

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trying to solve the case at all costs, but also

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cliche to every single movie cop of like saying the

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one liners, putting on some trying.

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He's failing to be that cliche cop. And they also

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set him at a keyboard a couple of times. Yes,

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they just riff and do his thing.

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But yeah, hot Frosty.

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I cannot recommend enough if it's one of those that

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you that you know about, because I'm pty sure it's

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been hard to avoid from social media. Oh sure, lately,

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give it a chance. Out of it you'll know if

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you like it. From like the first five to ten minutes,

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Say, I don't even think you need to go that far.

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It's it's let's I I in cases like this, I

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like to lean into Abraham Lincoln. Okay, it's the kind

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of thing you'll like you'll like that kind of thing.

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That's fair so hot Frosty really fun, and it was

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nice to dive into some brand new holiday fairs.

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Absolutely for the year. Yeah, those were a lot of fun. Nutcrackers,

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hot Frosty. Those are our two recommendations. Even before we

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get to our movie, which is the biggest recommendation this week,

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I would say, well.

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You think, I mean, what do you new might be?

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You don't have that new smell?

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Tell me about it?

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So shall we dive into nineteen ninety what was it?

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Nineteen ninety four's we Got we Gotta. We are hanging

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in the nineties a lot, right, we have been. Yeah,

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we're gonna have to.

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Luckily, next week's movie is in the two thousands. So

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there's that, and so is the one after it, Okay,

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and then we go to the eighties after that. Finally,

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so we are taking a nineties break for three.

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Movies in our real movies. But this is Yes, nineteen

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ninety four is the ref and this is one that

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if you are not familiar with it, you owe yourself

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to give it a watch. Absolutely hard to get a

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hold of right now. Unfortunately you can only really rent it.

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But It's worth three ninety nine one thousand percent.

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So nineteen ninety four is the Ref. One hour and

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thirty seven minutes. Rate it R for language. Just language,

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that's the only only thing we have.

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I hate when films have language. Why can't they just

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minme it?

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Our director on the film is Ted Demi.

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He gets a start in nineteen eighty seven directing the

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Push It Salt and Pepper music video.

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Oh yeah, I mean, who doesn't remember that one? Push

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It real good? Dude, dude, doo, dute dute.

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Actually going back to Linda Carlini, she sings a karaoke

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version of it in Grandma's.

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Boy, It's All Coming Together.

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Uh. He moves on in nineteen eighty eight to Yo

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MTV raps, then does a Kid in Play video Rolling

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with Kid and Play, Then directs Dennis Leary's No Cure

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for Cancer in nineteen ninety three.

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Well that explains quite a bit.

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Then moves into Saturday Zoo in ninety three, Who's That Man?

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Bruce Spinsteen the Streets of Philadelphia in nineteen ninety four,

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the same year that he directs The Ref. Then he

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directs Homicide Life on the Street in ninety four, Beautiful

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Girls in ninety six, Gun in ninety seven, Dennis Leary,

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Lock and Load in ninety seven, Monument Avenue in ninety eight,

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Life in ninety nine, and then his last film is

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Blow in two thousand and one. He unfortunately leaves us

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January thirteen, two thousand and two, at age thirty eight

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from an accidental cocaine induced thermabatic heart attack. He was

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playing the celebrity basketball game and.

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Collapsed while on cocaine. Wow.

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I had no clue.

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Yeah, and then when I found when I saw a somography,

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I was like, is he no longer with us? And

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then scroll back up to the top and read so, yeah,

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it was actually pretty shady.

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He's that's yeah, that will way to get the holiday

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cheer going.

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My apologies sorry that I picked a movie that has

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a dead director.

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Jeez David.

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Moving down to our writer, we have Marie Weiss, who

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has the ref on her resume in nineteen ninety four

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Screenplay and Story. Then also has Story orxcy Be the

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Christmas List in nineteen ninety seven. Our other writer on

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the film is Richard Lavinngray's He gets his start in

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eighty nine doing the screenplay for Rude Awakening, The Fisher

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King in nineteen ninety one, which he was Oscar nominated

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four Okay, yeah yeah, then moves on to The Reef,

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which he gets screenplay credit four in ninety four, A

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Little Princess in ninety five, The Bridges of Madison County

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in ninety five, Unstrung Heroes, The Mirror Has Two Faces,

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The Horse Whisperer, Living Out Loud, which he also directs

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Beloved in ninety eight, Parishet to Me in two thousand

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and six, which he's also a director on Freedom Writers

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in two thousand and seven, which he's the director on

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ps I Love You in two thousand and seven, which

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is also the director on Water for Elephants, Beautiful Creatures.

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He's also the director on Behind the Candelabra, The Divide

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the Last five Years. Also directs That Unbroken in twenty fourteen,

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and The Comedian in twenty sixteen with Robert de Niro.

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Have you seen that movie?

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Oh yeah, so good. Yeah, I liked it.

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It was a lot of fun.

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I mean, it's no the Intern. It'll do, but.

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It'll moving down to our cinematographer we have Adam Kimmel,

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who gets his start as an assistant camera on The

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Wanderers in seventy nine, also the Brian to Palmer film

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Dressed to Kill in nineteen eighty, Raging Bowl in nineteen eighty,

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My Favorite Year in eighty two, Birdie in eighty four.

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It's not until nineteen eighty seven that he becomes a

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director of photography on The Pogues Live in New York, Okay.

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Then he does Llo Cool Jays, going back to Cali

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music video YouTube's one video. Then in nineteen ninety three

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he also does the cinematography on Dennis Leary No Cure

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for Cancer.

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Which is a really good special. You know we glossed

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over it earlier. Yeah, but that's a great special. I

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remember watching them, both.

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Most Cure for Cancer and Locket Load I have on

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CD still and both are still really funny.

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I fig on television. Yeah yeah, Well, of course.

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You know, Cure for Cancer gave his asshole, which is

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the number one song that he's known for.

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Well, yeah, I'm glad you you you prefaced that with

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what that meant, he gave us asshole, and then that

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moving on, So who's that man?

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In three?

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The ref in ninety four. He also shoots Me and

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the Mob in ninety four, New Jersey Drive, Bed of Roses,

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Beautiful Girls, Dennis Leary, Lock and Load, Monument Avenue, Almost

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Heroes in ninety eight, Jesus's Son in ninety nine, Beyond Suspicion, Capodi,

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Bob Dylan when the Deal goes down, Lars and the

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Real Girl in two thousand and seven.

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Okay, that's that one I wouldn't expect.

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Never Let Me Go twenty ten, Mark Felt The Man

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Who brought Down the White House in twenty seventeen.

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I liked that movie.

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It was act pretty good.

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Yeah, and We Go Green in twenty nineteen, and Colin

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Quinn's Red State, Blue State in twenty nineteen as well.

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Wow, Yeah, okay, sounds like a New York guy mostly I.

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Would say so.

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Yeah, him and him and DEMI work together a lot

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until his passing. Unfortunately, Yeah, I need to be synopsis

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for the ref says a cat Burglar is forced to

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take a bickering, dysfunctional family hostage on Christmas Eve.

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I mean, I don't know, sorry, I don't know if

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it could get much better than that.

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Double D My synopsis when a robbery gets botched. A

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cynical cat burglar takes a bickering couple hostage on Christmas Eve,

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posing as their marriage counselor at a family gathering to

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evade the local police on his trail.

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Hmm, well, first of all, you stole bickering from the

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original description. Not that one's that's a little uncool that

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you took a word, a major descriptor from them.

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How arguing bickering? What of the words get functional, dysfunctionals

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in there? Bickering, dysfunctional family hostage. I only used bickering

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and added in the marriage counselor aspect of it.

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No, you added more.

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To it, yes, do it?

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Ah?

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No, No, it's not bad. It's not bad. It's just

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a little bit of a wash. But yours is definitely

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more all inclusive. Well, lucky for you. There's some great

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taglines here. Oh goodness.

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First tag line, they might be his hostages, but they're

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doing or but what they're doing to this guy is criminal.

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Okay, I kind of like that one.

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My favorite is this one. He's taken them hostage, they're

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driving him nuts.

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That's pretty solid too.

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The ref is currently available to rent on Prime Fandango

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at Home and wherever you get your videos at. I

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will also say that if you are a physical media collector,

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the DVD is the only way to get it right now,

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It's never had a Blu Ray release and no telling

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if it will right now.

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Well, it's tied with Disney, yeah, and that. Yeah, one

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of these days they're either gonna have They're gonna have

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to open those floodgates for some Touchtak labels to license.

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Touchstone has a hell of a library, so I would

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think they would have to.

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It's someone well, Touchstone was what saved Disney in the

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nineties when they were the Ladies and early in the

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nineties when they were dying.

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No absolutely moved out of our cast. We have Dennis

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Leary who plays Gus. He gets his start in ninety

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one with Strictly Business. He's also in Loaded Weapon one

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in ninety three, The Sandlot previous episode in ninety three,

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Demolition Man, Judgment Night, The ref Operation Dumbo, Drop two,

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If by Sea, The Second Civil War Suicide, kings Wag,

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The Dog Monument, Avenue, Small Soldiers, A Bugs Life, True Crime,

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Ice Age, Rescue Me, The Amazing Spider Man, Draft Day.

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Leary's got a hell of a resume.

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Do You Even Movie? Will be right back. Welcome back

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to Do You Even Movie?

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Have I ever told you my Dennis Leary joke story?

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Is it?

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Is it the one where you talked to the woman

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who owned a comedy club?

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No? No, I was dating a girl whose mother was

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a stand up comedian in Jersey. Have I told I

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don't know if I told you?

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You told me?

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Yeah?

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Yeah, Well so I was. I was seeing this girl

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when I lived in North Jersey and her mother was

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a stand up in the nineties. Yeah, and she had.

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She was telling a story about how one night she

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was at some little club in downtown and Dennis Leary

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was on the show, like for ten minutes, and he

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was new, people didn't really know him, and he got

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up on stage and just everybody was just like what

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because no one, in her words, no, had ever seen

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anything quite like that before. And I just immediately went,

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you guys had never seen Bill Hicks. And she was like, Oh,

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you're mean. That's funny, but you're mean. That was her joke.

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No hate, Dennis actually loved Dennis Lewy a lot. And

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also the fact the fact I don't know if people

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know where the no cure for cancer special comes from

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It comes from a joke. So one thing I miss

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about the nineties, aside from inflation, is jokes that would

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just spread across the country and no one really knew how,

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like the Michael Jackson jokes, the O. J. Simpson jokes

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that would just permeate the world.

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My god.

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Yeah, Well, the joke about Dennis Leary was why don't

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why do more people know about Dennis Leary than know

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about Bill Hicks Because there's no cure for cancer? That

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was the joke. So Dennis Leary going on stage and

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doing a tour called no Cure for Cancer was his

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way of basically telling those people who were saying he

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was on original putting him down, basically telling them to

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kiss his ass. And I respect that so. And Dennis

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Leary is one of the most memorable people when he's

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given a role that fits, whether it's The ref which

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I honestly think is a relatively modern classic, or even

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his role in Demolition Man where they just kind of

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let him be him absolutely do But it wasn't like

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they did it because they were lazy. They did it

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because he fit so well with his character. Because they're

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living and for those who've never seen Demolition Man. They're

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living in a world that's been nerfed in every way.

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Swearing is illegal, sex is illegal, alcohol is illegal, meat

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is illegal. And he lives underground with a bunch of

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people who refuse to live that way. In this air

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quotes utopian society. So when he starts giving his rants

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and raves about how he wants to smoke cigarettes.

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And each run naked down the streets saying I'm a little.

475
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I'm a little tea. Yeah, when he gives those rants,

476
00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.279
that's what his stand up act was, because he was

477
00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:13.519
His stand up act was about, like you know, in

478
00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:15.400
the song asshole, you know, I want to eat a

479
00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:20.400
fatty cheeseburger and a non biodegradable styrofoam containers. I want

480
00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:22.720
to smoke five cigarettes and a Cuban cigar while I

481
00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:22.960
do all.

482
00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:24.960
You know, he wipe my mouth with the American flag.

483
00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:28.440
Yeah, that was his thing, and he was well used,

484
00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:31.720
and in the ref he's phenomenally used, Which makes a

485
00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:35.240
lot of sense now as I realized that clearly, and

486
00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:37.759
you'll get into how the movie came to be, but

487
00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.319
clearly the director was a choice from Leary's camp. Yeah,

488
00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:43.880
because that was somebody who knew him and knew what

489
00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:47.920
he was capable of. So that's yeah, I just want to,

490
00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:51.480
you know, hats off Dennis Leary highly well, actually, I

491
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.000
can't say he's underrated, not after Rescue Me.

492
00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:57.039
No, and his other show that made think I think

493
00:23:57.079 --> 00:23:58.720
it got two seasons if not, I got one, and

494
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:00.480
it was it was very well life did I can't

495
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:02.400
remember I forgot cancer or not, but to sex, drugs

496
00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:03.079
and rock and roll.

497
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.000
Sure, sure it was a really good but Rescue Me

498
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.839
was like Rescue Me was not only huge, but like

499
00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.519
my mom liked, Rescue Me, like very very popular with

500
00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:13.960
almost everybody. Yeah, it's a great So I'm not going

501
00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:16.319
I will say at the time I feel he was underrated,

502
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.759
but I think I think he's gotten his due in

503
00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:24.799
the last fifteen twenty years, Dennis Larry give us your anger.

504
00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.200
So moving on down the cast, we also have Judy Davis,

505
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.480
who plays Caroline in the film She Gets Are started

506
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.319
in nineteen seventy seven with high Rolling in a Hot Corvette,

507
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.920
My Brilliant career in seventy nine, Hoodwink heat Wave, the

508
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:41.160
final option. In eighty two, Passage to India, Kangaroo Georgia,

509
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:45.480
Alice impromptu Barton Fink in ninety one on my Own

510
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.039
Naked Lunch, Husbands and Wives in ninety two, which I

511
00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:50.039
think is one of her most bit like her biggest film.

512
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:52.839
I think m moving on that. We Have The Rep

513
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:55.799
in ninety four, The New Age Blood and Wine, Absolute

514
00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:59.480
Power in ninety seven, deconstructing Harry Dash and Lilly a

515
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:03.240
Cooler Clas, the Man who sued God, Swimming up Stream,

516
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.720
the breakup Mary and Twinette, The Starter Wife Iya, The

517
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:10.279
Storm to Roam with Love, The Dressmaker Feud, and most

518
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:12.319
recently Ratchet on Netflix in twenty twenty.

519
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:15.400
Oh really yeah wow. Well, and most importantly, she was

520
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.079
in two separate movies The Simpsons made fun of that

521
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.119
true Barton Fink and Naked Lunch. Do you remember those

522
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:24.319
those Guysmber? This one of them was when the kids

523
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:26.240
were all like, we're gonna sneak into an R rated

524
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.880
movie and they're all like, Barton Fink, Barton Finks, that's

525
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:32.240
the movie they're sneaking into. And then when bart has

526
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.799
a fake ID, they go to see Naked Lunch and

527
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:36.319
when they're walking out, he's like, I could think of

528
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:41.640
at least two things wrong with that title. Anyway, so good.

529
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:44.680
I have no memory or childhood of my own, only

530
00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:45.799
Simpsons references.

531
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:47.960
That's fair. You have a lot of Simpsons reference. We

532
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:50.839
bounce those signs. You do it way more than I do.

533
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:53.519
I grew up in a time when if you were

534
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.440
if you wanted to, you could watch three episodes of

535
00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:58.319
The Simpsons every day. After some why do I think

536
00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:02.240
it was five? I don't know, which is a lot?

537
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.000
You could watch two on our normal Fox affiliate, and

538
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:09.119
then we got Cincinnati's Fox affiliate, so you could watch

539
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:12.079
one of them on there, and throughout time, sometimes they

540
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.279
would overlap. Yeah, so I would switch to pick which

541
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:15.640
one I like Like, I'd be like, oh, I like

542
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:17.839
that episode more, and I'd watch that one on w.

543
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:20.200
X I X ME with family and I in high

544
00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:22.240
school because TVs Star had shown it at that point,

545
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:25.400
but then also Cartoon Network Adult Swim at eleven or.

546
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:29.359
What you're making me feel old. I remember buying they

547
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:33.759
set after it had been canceled time or the third time,

548
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.480
the original time it had been canceled. Yeah, And I

549
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.759
remember watching the DVDs and going, Wow, the show was

550
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.920
really really funny, and then being shocked when all of

551
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:47.160
that attention brought it back, so I feel very old.

552
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:49.000
Thank you sorry.

553
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.440
Wrapping up our cast is Kevin Spacey, who plays Lloyd

554
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:54.319
in the film. He gets to start at eighty eight

555
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:56.920
and Working Girl also does. See Here No Evil in

556
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.240
eighty nine. Probably a future episode because I just revisited

557
00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.240
that recently and I love that movie. Glengary, Glenn Ross,

558
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.759
The ref Swimming with Sharks, Usual Suspects, Outbreak Seven, A

559
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:08.119
Time to Kill Ellie, Confidential, Midnight in the Guard, A

560
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:11.000
Good and Evil, The Negotiator of Bugs, Life American Beauty,

561
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.480
Pay It Forward, k Pax, Shipping News, Life of David Gale,

562
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:17.160
Superman Returns, the Manister at Goats, Horrible Boss's House of Cards.

563
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.240
Baby Driver in twenty seventeen is probably his last one because,

564
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:22.799
as we know, allegations and everything have come against him.

565
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.960
Yeah, lots happened. Yeah, yeah, But one of my favorite

566
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:28.559
movies of all time is Swimming with Sharks. Shark's fantastic,

567
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:31.000
Yeah No, and He's that's probably, in my opinion, some

568
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:32.119
of his best work. Yeah.

569
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.960
Well, and like like you and I've talked about and

570
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:35.640
I've said, I think a couple times on the show,

571
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.839
separating art from the artist, is what I do, and

572
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:39.480
he left an incredible body of work.

573
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:41.799
Well sure, yeah, well, and I'm not gonna not to

574
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.599
be that guy. But he hasn't been found guilty of anything.

575
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:45.119
No, I said allegations.

576
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.720
Yeah so, I mean, so it's a it's a it's

577
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.319
a it's a delightful gray area for movie fans. Yeah

578
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:56.200
to uh to never speak of it against let us

579
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.400
never speak of it again anyway, Jeffrey Jones.

580
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.119
Other names in the cast. I do want to mention,

581
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:04.960
just to show you how stacked the cast is. We

582
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.880
also have Raymond, Jay Berry, we have Christine Baranski, Adam Lafever,

583
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:12.240
Bill Raymond, we have Scott Walker. I mean, there is

584
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:13.759
a bunch of people in this movie.

585
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:15.839
Well, Bead Wong.

586
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:18.400
I know you'd think they'd mostly be puppets, but they

587
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:19.599
were able to get a full cast.

588
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:20.119
Crazy.

589
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:21.960
No, it was cool to see bed Wong and there,

590
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.880
especially because this was right before OZ started. And what

591
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.200
you get is a ton of character actors from the

592
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:31.559
East Coast because this was made on the East Coast.

593
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:33.319
Well, I think this is is this the year after

594
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:35.119
Jurassic Park? Is Jurassic Park ninety three?

595
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:35.720
I think so?

596
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:37.880
Yeah, so the year after Jurassic Park then too, oh.

597
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.839
Yeah he was. Yeah. Well and you mentioned JK. Simmons, right,

598
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.599
oh j K Simons, Yeah yeah, yeah he pops up

599
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.640
in there. Another OZ alumni and also a character actor

600
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.559
famous for being on the East Coast.

601
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:49.039
Yeah.

602
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:51.839
One thing when you get when you're extra obsessed with movies,

603
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:56.519
you notice by who fills the other roles. Yeah, where

604
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.400
the film is shot. Yeah, Like I guarantee you major

605
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:05.240
reason that JK. Simmons was j Jonah Jamison in Sam

606
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:09.319
Raimi Spider Man movies and then later Spider Man incarnations

607
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:11.799
was because he was on the East Coast because they

608
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.480
filmed it in New York. Yeah, makes perfect sense. So

609
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:16.759
you can definitely like there will be movies I watch

610
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.359
while like, oh they must have shot if not on

611
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.279
the East Coast, they must have shot not in LA

612
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:24.880
because like if they shoot in say a lot of

613
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.480
those movies nineties movies especially might have been shot in

614
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.480
North Carolina because they like the crow and stuff like that.

615
00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.000
You'll often see a lot of New York people because

616
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.400
they're still cheaper to bring over compared to flying from

617
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.720
LA or flying from wherever same goes. If they shoot

618
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:42.880
in Quebec, then there's a good chance you'll see a

619
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:46.440
lot of New York actors because again much closer. Yeah,

620
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:49.200
so that's one of the things that Uh, watch it

621
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.279
really if you want a master class on who's a

622
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.200
character actor in New York, just watch Ozz. Just watch

623
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:01.880
because it's nothing but them. There's there's really nobody else. Yeah.

624
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.400
Was June Davis on OZ or am I thinking of

625
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:05.079
somebody else?

626
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.359
I don't think so she was, But well, there aren't.

627
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.279
There aren't a lot of female characters to go around on.

628
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:13.039
That's why I was an account of the men's I mean,

629
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:16.559
there are some really good female characters, but there's not

630
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:21.279
many opportunities for women in a men's prison show.

631
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.240
Well because Edie Falco is on there, and I think

632
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:25.319
that's pre Sopranos.

633
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:27.519
Oh yeah, because the reason they wrote her character out

634
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:31.480
was that she was committed to filming Sopranos. So yeah,

635
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:35.200
because they her character like disappears with a note. Yeah, yeah,

636
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.720
they just flat out we're like, look, Oz, we know

637
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.200
you were our favorite child, but now this new baby

638
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.799
is here and we love him a lot more. Like

639
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.200
when he coups, it's really cute. You're already getting bo the.

640
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:48.519
Old same amount of seasons.

641
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.279
I think OZ had seven.

642
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.279
Okay, Sopano had six, technically seven because six is.

643
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.039
Bro Wait no, no, OZ had six.

644
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:56.880
Oh yeah, it broke it into parts. So yeah, season

645
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:57.880
four is broken into parts.

646
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.319
Yeah yeah, stop talking about OZ or you'll never get

647
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:01.359
to the movie.

648
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:13.720
Do You Even? Movie will be right back. Welcome back

649
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:15.000
to Do You Even?

650
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:15.480
Movie?

651
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:22.160
So what was your first time watching The Ref?

652
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:22.480
Oh?

653
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.680
Man, it was on Comedy Central a lot when I

654
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.200
was in my mid teens, and they'd always make it

655
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.160
a big deal. They'd always play lots of commercials big

656
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.519
Dennis Leary and The Ref, And all I knew was

657
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.119
that The Ref was not considered a huge hit, and

658
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:43.319
they were trying to, you know, breathe life into it

659
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:47.160
with an audience who liked Dennis Leary and who I mean,

660
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.559
there were a lot of movies that Comedy Central was

661
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.440
able to make movies people like, they were able to

662
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:55.599
kind of breathe new life into it because Comedy Central

663
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.480
had that very specific audience that they could find for it.

664
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:00.920
So The Ref was definitely one of those They play

665
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.079
around the holidays a lot, and I always remember catching

666
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.079
it here and there, catching half of it here. The

667
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.559
beginning of it here or there and laughing my ass off,

668
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:11.799
thinking he was very, very funny. I was. I was

669
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:15.920
a very young fan of Dennis Leary. Yeah, so then

670
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:20.720
I guess it would be I don't know, maybe in

671
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:25.119
my early to mid twenties. I revisited it and that

672
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:26.920
was the first time I'd watched it all at once

673
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:32.000
and uncut. Yeah, and it was on it was I

674
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.119
think Netflix, No, No, that was later. It was either

675
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:42.759
on Stars or Prime Stars. Early in that era, like

676
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.440
when Prime Video was, was was very much more like

677
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:46.200
Netflix than.

678
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:48.319
I would almost Bet Stars almost.

679
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:50.559
And I flipped through and found it and I watched

680
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.559
it right then and there because I had like a

681
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:56.119
temporary membership or something. And yeah, that was my revisiting

682
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:58.319
and I was just I was floored by what a

683
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.519
great film it was. I was floored by how hard

684
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.359
I laughed the whole way through, how christmas y it was.

685
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.480
It's there is a varying degree of christmasness in the

686
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:11.440
movies we're covering for Christmas, and this one is in

687
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.240
like the eight out of ten. The only way it

688
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.640
would be more Christmas is if it was fully about Christmas.

689
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.680
I mean, it's literally it's a it's a happened one

690
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:19.839
night on Christmas Eve.

691
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.920
Yeah, when the music cues involve Christmas music, there's tons

692
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.720
of decore. There's Santa clauses. Like I said, because on

693
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.880
my Christmas E scale, like long Kiss good Night would

694
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.279
be like a five. That's what we did last week.

695
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:35.480
That'd be like a five because Christmas setting is it's

696
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.920
it's there there. As like as to where like Lethal

697
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.960
Weapon or die Hard would probably be closer to a

698
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.279
three three because it's not focused on Christmas, but Christmas

699
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:48.359
is always there and apparent. Yeah, and then there are

700
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:49.640
a lot of movies that are like a one or

701
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:51.440
two where it's like, ah, you see some lights, You're like, oh, hey,

702
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.519
this is at Christmas. Obra Yeah, yeah, Cobra is a

703
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.519
good example. So as to where like if you wanted

704
00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:57.799
a ten out of ten, it would have to be

705
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:02.440
something that's about Christmas, Yeah, Christmas story, like a Christmas

706
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.880
story or like to an extent, Home Alone's probably nine

707
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.079
out of ten because it's basically about Christmas. But you know,

708
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.559
or a movie that were Santa is a focal character

709
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:12.639
or something like that, those are gonna be ten out

710
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:12.920
of ten.

711
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.360
Only like no shit, a couple of years ago that

712
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:18.199
I realized Chris's vacation. We never see Christmas Day.

713
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:20.280
No, yeah, we don't make it. Yeah yeah, that's no.

714
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:21.599
That's one of my favorite things about it.

715
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:21.960
Yeah.

716
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.280
So anyway, that's the other thing is like when it

717
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:30.639
comes to adult comedies on Christmas, this one is very

718
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:36.199
very Christmas. It absolutely and very nineties in a comforting way.

719
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.280
Yea for those like me who are as are at

720
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:44.039
death Store, we're just ancient already, unlike you younger millennials, US

721
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.599
elder millennials for caching our social Security checks?

722
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:48.000
Do you want me to make you feel older? Because

723
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.760
I can tell you my first time watching.

724
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:51.559
Go On.

725
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.320
So I discovered the ref Circle two thousand and four,

726
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:58.079
two thousand and five via a Hollywood Video catalog.

727
00:34:58.400 --> 00:34:59.800
I remember Hollywood.

728
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:01.920
Oh, it was a.

729
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.119
Had to have been like probably like a little ten

730
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.159
page catalog that was just like rent these movies in

731
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.679
Hollywood Video. And it was still in the VHS days,

732
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:09.599
so they were all tapes.

733
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:11.119
Wow.

734
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.599
And I remember going through them, and I remember seeing

735
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.519
the cover of the REF and I'd like Dennis Leger

736
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.400
at that point because I'd seen like Small Soldiers. I

737
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.159
was probably watching a little bit of rescue me with

738
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:20.440
my parents at that point.

739
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:21.360
So I knew who he was.

740
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.960
Again two thousand and four, I would have been seven fourteen,

741
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:30.320
Oh my god, ah baby.

742
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.039
So yeah, it was.

743
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:33.960
It was one of those situations where I was like, Okay,

744
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:35.840
I want to see this, and lo and behold, Comedy

745
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.039
Central had it. Like one November. I was channel surfering

746
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:40.800
and came across it and caught it right in the middle.

747
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.159
And literally from that point on, that's how I kept

748
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:45.079
watching that damn movie.

749
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:45.480
It was like.

750
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.199
It wasn't until like a year later that I found

751
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.519
a copy of the library got to watch it one

752
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.719
sitting completely uncut, never saw the beginning until that time

753
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.960
renting that tape, yea. And yeah, I mean from that

754
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.039
point on, like it was one that I wanted obviously.

755
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:00.000
So I ended up finding a sealed copy of good

756
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.199
Will like the same year that I've rented it at

757
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:05.320
the library and had it on VHS for years, upgraded

758
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:07.480
the DVD and it's it's it's one that I will

759
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.360
watch every single Christmas most of the time with you.

760
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:11.719
Yeah, We've watched it at least five or six times

761
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.280
a long time. Yeah, and every year it seemed like

762
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:15.679
it would be somewhere else too.

763
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:16.280
Yeah.

764
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:18.840
One year nowhere we watched the DVD yep. Then one

765
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.559
year it was on Netflix yep for for a while,

766
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:22.840
so we watched it on there, and that was the

767
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:23.880
first time we've seen it in HD.

768
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:25.320
Yeah, and then Voodoo finally put it up like I

769
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.039
think a year after that, and we both grabbed it,

770
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:28.599
even though I think it was still like full price

771
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:29.719
fourteen and nine at that point.

772
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.000
Yeah, I paid full price for my Voodoo copy, but

773
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.320
at least we have a accessible HD copy.

774
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.760
Yeah. It just what stick with me the most is

775
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.280
the humor, the one liners. I mean, the entire cast

776
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:44.719
just keeps the film going in such in such a

777
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:47.800
way with their delivery between each other, because you start

778
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.400
seeing this this really nice town, and then slowly but

779
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.400
surely you get to see that like, oh no, there's

780
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.280
there's some shitty people in this town too.

781
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.880
Well yeah, I mean it's a little Connecticut town, yeah,

782
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:02.599
where nothing ever happened. Yeah, but then this happens. And

783
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:04.719
I'll dive into that a little bit more when we

784
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.000
talk about one of my favorite characters in the film,

785
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.800
which is the police chief.

786
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:09.800
Yes, mister Huff.

787
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.800
So we open with a shot of the town of

788
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:14.639
bay Brook, Connecticut. As we see it's Christmas Eve, we

789
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.119
see various people through the town.

790
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:17.280
Shop owners are closing up.

791
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.079
What would you say, it's probably about like five thirty

792
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:20.280
six o'clock at this point.

793
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.039
Well, if they're in Connecticut, it could be as early

794
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:26.159
as four thirty. Yeah, it gets dark really early when

795
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:27.079
you're that far east.

796
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.519
Because by the time they get back home with Gus

797
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:29.800
he says it's seven thirty now.

798
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.400
Yeah, so it's probably about five five o'clock or four

799
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:33.400
thirty something like that.

800
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:35.639
So it's early on Christmas Eve. The town's out about

801
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.280
the choir's practicing. We're seeing the local law enforcement saying

802
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:40.400
hi to people, and we're going through the town just

803
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:40.880
seeing it.

804
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:41.880
And then we pan up.

805
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.000
To a window where we see a sign that says

806
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.079
doctor Wong marriage counselor.

807
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.719
I bet you for the record. Yeah, in a small

808
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.440
town like that, the marriage counselor is the wealthiest person

809
00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:01.639
in a small Connecticut town in in the nineties, could

810
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:06.000
be so many marriages where they're like, well, getting divorced

811
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.440
would be very expensive. I will pay anything to see

812
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.159
a doctor right now now. I bet he's very busy.

813
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.239
He probably loves Christmas because you know if he doesn't

814
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.199
celebrate it, He's like, ah, I'll just work through Christmas

815
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.239
Eve to fix all these people's anger and rage about

816
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:24.480
their ham not being finished.

817
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.800
Judging by his nice sweater, he definitely has money.

818
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.320
Oh yeah, and his slicked back hair and his slick

819
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:33.559
back hair and just being Beadie Wong, so he just

820
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:34.559
looks expensive.

821
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.119
We cut into his office as we meet doctor Wong

822
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.840
conducting a session between Caroline and Lloyd, and Caroline tells

823
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:43.679
the doctor about a dream that she had recently, and

824
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.800
Lloyd doesn't want to hear about the dream because it

825
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.480
involves Carolyn being in a nice restaurant and she served

826
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:50.400
a platter with Lloyd's severed head on it and his

827
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:51.840
penis stuck in his ear.

828
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:56.519
Yeah, except she says I didn't order this, and the

829
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:59.199
waiter leans in and goes, you must try it. It's

830
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.760
a delicacy, but don't eat the penis.

831
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:06.079
Its only And Lloyd is not happy here in.

832
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:10.000
This well, doctor Wong says, how do you feel about that? Lloyd?

833
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.880
He's like, I wish she'd stop telling it at dinner parties.

834
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:19.920
He goes on to say, you know, doctor Wong's like,

835
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:21.840
you know, well, how is a sex life? And Carolyn's like,

836
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.840
you know, it's decreased even more so, but even when

837
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.280
it was up in its heyday, it still wasn't noteworthy.

838
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:29.800
A couple kisses, a couple of nipple twists. That's why

839
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:30.679
I had the affair.

840
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.920
It takes as long as making a cappuccino. I know,

841
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:33.840
because I timed it one.

842
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:36.320
Yeah, timed it once, and even goes to say that

843
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:38.440
that's why she ended up having an affair, which you

844
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.440
know was due to her own happiness. But the affair

845
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:42.360
didn't mean anything to her, and that's why, you know,

846
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:44.199
they want to move past it and try to fix

847
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.800
the marriage. But Lloyd's convinced that she wants a divorce,

848
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:48.079
or at least he wants a divorce.

849
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.800
Yeah. Well, and and he's like, you just say that

850
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.440
so casually, I had an affair, like you're asking for

851
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:54.360
a glass of water?

852
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:57.280
Do you even?

853
00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:57.679
Movie?

854
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:11.159
Will be right back, welcome back to do you even movie?

855
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:15.880
And this whole time, you know that they're arguing and

856
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:17.760
bickering with this is this is the first taste we

857
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:19.519
get of Carolyn and Lloyd that's going to carry it

858
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:21.800
through the rest of the movie, and doctor Wong keeps

859
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.239
repeating he's not here to take sides, He's just here

860
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.159
to listen. So then we cut to a car out

861
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:28.960
in front of a mansion. We see a man sitting

862
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.719
in the car smoking while the car is running. Inside

863
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:33.840
we meet Gus played by Dennis Leary, who is dressed

864
00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:36.079
in black wearing a face mask, and he's trying to

865
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.719
crack a safe and he eventually gets an open. We

866
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.599
hear the sound of a cat hiss and then a

867
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:44.960
spray happens as miss as we find out that the

868
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.199
booby trap is cat piss.

869
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.119
Well, which may have which may make no sense until

870
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.320
until so as he's clearing out all of the stuff,

871
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.000
I just love this sequence. He's clearing out all these jewels, diamonds.

872
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.840
I mean, it's a it's frigging crazy how much stuff

873
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.039
is in there. There's just this one little ring box

874
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.960
in the back that that is open, so you can

875
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.079
see this giant diamond. And as he reaches to grab

876
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:17.320
it and pulls on the string or pulls on it

877
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:21.079
it's connected to a string. The string makes the camera

878
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.440
turn on the security camera, and when he goes to

879
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.000
disable the camera, that triggers a trap door under his feet,

880
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:34.719
which drops it on a slide down slams into the

881
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:38.280
basement where there is a very big rottwiler.

882
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:41.119
A very big rottweiler that we find out's name is Cannibal.

883
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:47.360
Cannibal, and now the cat piss makes a lot more sense,

884
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.480
talk about cruel like, I mean, come on, what like

885
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:54.880
what are we are? We tired of the old just

886
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.280
shotgun on a window trick? Geez. So now he's trying

887
00:41:58.280 --> 00:41:59.440
to figure out how to get away.

888
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.760
From this dog, throwing pool balls at it. Which one

889
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:05.639
one that Cannibal catches and just smashes with his jowls.

890
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:10.480
It's it's perfection because the dog catches the familliard ball

891
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:12.079
and crunches it into pieces.

892
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.239
Yeah, he's like, uh so that he holds him a

893
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:18.039
diamond necklace, gets the dog's attention, throws it hoping the

894
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:20.000
dog will get off him. But the moment he moves off,

895
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.119
he goes to a window, the dog jumps up bites

896
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.519
him right on the as So then we cut back

897
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:26.599
to doctor Wong's office, where Lloyd tries to state that

898
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:28.840
he's a happy person. You know, he's content, he sees

899
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.440
nothing wrong with his life.

900
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:31.760
And I'm a very content person.

901
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.239
Carolyn sees right through it, calling him out and says,

902
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:35.920
you know, we we live in everything of the shadow

903
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:37.280
of your mother. We live in a house with your

904
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.280
mother owns. We have a business with your mother owns,

905
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.000
and basically goes on to say that they all live

906
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.360
under the shadow of his mom because she has money.

907
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:48.079
Well, and two things in this exchange. First of all,

908
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:49.960
when she says how can we live to how can

909
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.480
we live together and be together? And I'm miserable in

910
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:56.599
your content content and he says lock, look, which is amazing.

911
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:58.920
But then the next one is as she's explaining, like

912
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.119
you know, we have a beautiful with your mother owns

913
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:05.320
and of thriving business with your mother owns, he mentions

914
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.199
that she gave them a loan. Yes, He's like, she

915
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:10.760
helped us with our mindy. She's like, she gave us

916
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:14.719
a loan at eighteen percent interest.

917
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:16.679
Eighteen percent. They're living in the house charging them alone

918
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.079
for eighteen percent interest.

919
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:25.119
Now, kids, as your lifestyle coach on this program, that

920
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:31.559
is a piss poor APR, even in ninety the nineties. Yeah,

921
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:36.559
that was a bad APR when you get alone, not

922
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:41.599
a credit card. But alone loan, you're hoping to get

923
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.679
under ten percent. I know right now interest rates are

924
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.639
really messed up, but you're hoping to get under ten percent.

925
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.440
Like when I got alone, it was before my business

926
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.239
was big enough. I got a personal loan because I

927
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.599
couldn't get a small business loan. Yeah, to buy a camera,

928
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.920
I got eight percent, and I didn't have great credit,

929
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:01.599
but eight percent was you know, my credit card company

930
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.679
was gonna offer me eighteen or nineteen percent, so I

931
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.440
took it. When you buy a car, When I bought

932
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.000
a car, my first car loan was eight point five

933
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.760
percent because I had horrible credit. But then when I

934
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.000
refinanced a year later, after I rebuilt it, I got

935
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.159
it down to like four and a half percent. My

936
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:20.719
point is some people just don't understand these things, so

937
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.840
they don't know how bad obscenely funny it is that

938
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:27.320
a family member would give you a loan that's not

939
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:31.760
even better than discover car you would do. Like the

940
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.639
only other film that has a interest rate joke that

941
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.880
makes me laugh out loud as Ghostbusters. Yeah, when they

942
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.760
when they get the loan to start their business, the

943
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:43.000
interest rate is higher than most credit cards. It was

944
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:48.159
like twenty three twenty. I'm sorry as I'm almost forty

945
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:52.800
now and interest jokes raise my interest.

946
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:55.599
Ah, I see what you did there.

947
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:58.440
I'm so sad.

948
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:02.880
So that leads Lloyd in to basically talking about their

949
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:06.840
son Jesse, who he calls a delinquent, and Carolyn tries

950
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:08.800
to defend, but that's when Lloyd tells a story about

951
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:10.760
how they asked him to do. They asked him to

952
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:13.000
get a job. He started a small business which happened

953
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:14.639
to be an escort service, and he gave the high

954
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:18.480
school football team mother Rose his phone number, the grandmother's phone.

955
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:22.239
Number response, and I think her getting plowed by an

956
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.440
eighteen year old linebacker is just what she needed.

957
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:27.920
And that's when doctor Wong is like, please, can we

958
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:29.320
be quiet? And they both go fuck you.

959
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.840
He has a bell he rings when they get too

960
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:34.159
aggressive with each other, and he rings that bell. They

961
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:35.280
both just go fuck it.

962
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.800
So back at the mansion, Gus starts. Gus has cleaned,

963
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:40.519
Err has fallen in by this point, he's been bitten

964
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.320
by the dog, and we also see that Murray, his partner,

965
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:44.719
has left.

966
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:45.440
The car has gone.

967
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.159
The cops have surrounded it by this point, and we

968
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:49.199
see there's a pile of cigarette.

969
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:51.039
Butts, big car pile of cigarette butts.

970
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:53.880
So that is when down the road a bit, Carolyn

971
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:55.880
Lloyd have ended their session. They are parked at a

972
00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.000
local convenience store, still bickering, and that's because Carolyn again

973
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:01.760
brings up the divorce. And that's when Lloyd's like, we're

974
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:03.679
not getting a divorce, you know, we're we're gonna work

975
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:05.960
this out. And she's like, are you coming in? And

976
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:07.400
he's like, no, I think I'm gonna stay out here.

977
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.679
There are other things happening in the light, in the

978
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:10.920
life besides us, Carol.

979
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.480
Because he's listening to the radio. He's listening to the news.

980
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.519
Yes, And that's when she gets out of the car

981
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.199
and he goes, Carolyn, if the day that you see

982
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:20.840
something through to the very end is the day I'll

983
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:21.800
stick my own dick in my.

984
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:24.559
Ear, yeah, referring to their divorce there because she wants

985
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:25.960
a divorce and he doesn't want to give her one.

986
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:26.519
Yeah.

987
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:28.920
So we see Carolyn going to the store, and that's

988
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:33.119
when behind behind Lloyd we see Gus walking into the

989
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:34.039
store as well.

990
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.280
Uh oh, I wonder if they'll meet up.

991
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.800
They might just meet up so we cut into the

992
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:41.760
store and Carolyn's kind of just having a little bit

993
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:44.519
of a crisis while she shops. Gus immediately sets his

994
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:46.199
sights on her and kind of goes to the back

995
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:48.599
of the store, eventually sneaking up on her, putting a

996
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:50.320
gun in her back and telling her not to move.

997
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:52.320
That's when we see Gus and Carolyn go out to

998
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.559
rejoin Lloyd in the car, and that's when he points

999
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.320
the gun in Lloyd's face and tells him to drive.

1000
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:57.880
And of course Lloyd is like, you know what's going on?

1001
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.519
You know everything okay, and yeah, this is Gus means business.

1002
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:05.239
Two things about this sequence, Yes, sir number one, there

1003
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:10.239
is nothing more truthful to the holiday experience than her

1004
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:12.840
walking up to an aisle to grab like paper towels

1005
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.599
and maybe one more thing and just taking a second,

1006
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.559
like leaning her head on the shelf, like just totally

1007
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:23.280
exasperated by all of this because they just had this,

1008
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:28.239
They just had this horrible. Their marriage is terrible. They're

1009
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.760
arguing like crazy. She says she wants a divorce. Now

1010
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.639
they have to host Christmas Eve dinner, Yes they do so.

1011
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.280
Now he kidnaps, well kind of kidnaps her. Yeah, it

1012
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:40.679
takes her hostage. And when they get in the car,

1013
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:45.679
this is something I thought was really worth pointing out. Lloyd.

1014
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.119
Ye Lloyd is like are you okay? Which I love

1015
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.880
that because that's a foreshadow that they don't entirely hate

1016
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:58.840
each other. Yeah, but their baggage is so vast. They

1017
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:02.599
have so much in the way of them caring for

1018
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.719
each other. It's it's sad.

1019
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:05.280
It is sad.

1020
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:06.000
Yeah. Yeah.

1021
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.119
So we cut across town to the local station where

1022
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:10.320
we meet Lieutenant Huff who is being hassled by the

1023
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:12.519
rich locals of Babe Brook, who are like, you know,

1024
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:14.199
why aren't you put more men out there? And he's like, ah,

1025
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.199
your men are not trained. Like we get. We get

1026
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:18.199
the idea that Huff has just took this position, like

1027
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:19.559
what maybe a year ago.

1028
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.480
Yeah, I I you know, when I watched this movie

1029
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.320
the first few times, I always thought he was just

1030
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:28.440
like being outrageously funny and ridiculous. But as I've watched

1031
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.440
it more, I've realized why he's so angry, because when

1032
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:33.840
they say, like, why aren't you been doing more stuff?

1033
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:36.199
He says, because these men are trained to do this.

1034
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:37.840
You're like, well, their police are they He's like, they

1035
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:40.559
have no experience, no experience, nothing happens in this town.

1036
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.320
And he basically says like, you guys only care if

1037
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.920
you only need us. If a kid plays a prank

1038
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:48.039
on you or one of your I will say exactly

1039
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:49.599
what he says. But one of your dogs humps the

1040
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:50.599
other without permission.

1041
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.199
And that's what you call your judges and your lawyer friend.

1042
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:55.440
Yeah, yes, could call them now. Yeah. He's like everything

1043
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.199
else you call your judge friends or your district attorney friends,

1044
00:48:58.440 --> 00:48:59.599
So why don't you call them now?

1045
00:48:59.760 --> 00:48:59.960
Yeah?

1046
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.239
And then they're like, well, you don't have to be

1047
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:04.440
the chief of police, like I could make the mayor's

1048
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:06.480
an old golf buddy of mine. And his response is

1049
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.360
get out now. And I used to watch this, I

1050
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:12.079
used to think that the joke was just the absurdity

1051
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:14.400
of how aggressive he is. But now as I've watched

1052
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.519
it a bunch of times, what he's mad about is

1053
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.760
that he's probably spent his entire career trying to get

1054
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:29.360
some real cops in that city, and every time they're like, no,

1055
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:32.760
hire my friend's son's kid, No hire my kid, No

1056
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.360
hire my cousin's son. So now he's just in there

1057
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.960
like you people, you did this, you have to know

1058
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:44.360
right that we don't have any police officers, and that

1059
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.880
I find really funny. But also I've gained a lot

1060
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.239
of empathy for his character because now when I look

1061
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:51.639
at him, like, you know, he's not being a jerk

1062
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:55.199
to be a jerk, he's just like what do you want?

1063
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:58.159
Like he's just done already, like he was probably done

1064
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.840
a long time ago, which we didn't see. No, And

1065
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.119
I love that whole thing.

1066
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:04.119
His arc is pretty great.

1067
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:05.239
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty awesome.

1068
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:18.000
Do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back

1069
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:19.239
to Do You Even?

1070
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:19.760
Movie?

1071
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:27.239
So we cut back to Carolyn, Lloyd and Gus in

1072
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.119
the car and Gus is listening to the radio as

1073
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:30.800
Lloyd drives, and we find out there's gonna be a

1074
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:33.039
curfew now at ten PM, that they may or may

1075
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:35.639
not be doing house to house searches, and also that

1076
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.679
there may be a reward because Willard might be putting

1077
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:40.360
some money up. Willard who owns the mansion.

1078
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.880
And roadblocks and roadblocks, and the rewards one hundred thousand dollars.

1079
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:47.000
Yes, So that's when Gus tells me Charlot radio and

1080
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:48.360
he's trying to figure out what he wants to do,

1081
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:49.880
and that's when he's like, you know what, let's go

1082
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:51.400
to your house. And Lloyd's like, oh, well, we can

1083
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:53.719
drop you off somewhere. You know, we have people coming over.

1084
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.320
We can't. He's like, no, take me to your fucking house.

1085
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:57.639
Yeah.

1086
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.840
Yeah, So he orders them take them to the house,

1087
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.800
and that is when Carolyn and Lloyd get into it again,

1088
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:05.000
and that's when Gus is like.

1089
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:06.800
Hey, hey, stop screaming. I have a gun.

1090
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.440
Like gun, gun, gun right here. Gun.

1091
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.880
And that's when they are arguing more and more. And

1092
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.119
that's when Carolyn's like, if you knew I wasn't a

1093
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:18.440
single onman, you would abducted me, right, And he's like, honestly, no.

1094
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:20.719
Yeah, I wouldn't have abducted you if I know you

1095
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:21.400
were a couple now.

1096
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:23.519
And she even says something along the lines of like

1097
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:25.519
I can vouch for Lloyd. He's no hero, and that

1098
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.519
pisses Lloyd off. So they're arguing more and more. Back

1099
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.239
at the mansion, huff arrives to find out that they

1100
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.519
have found the face mask, and actually one of the deputies,

1101
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:35.480
which is Phil, he's like, you know, it's kind of

1102
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:37.119
an odor to it. And Huff takes a spell and

1103
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:38.840
he's like it's cap piss and he's like, oh that's great.

1104
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:40.679
Phil thought it was like Seeman. He's like, Phil needs

1105
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:46.840
to get checked out. So that's when UHL said, Huff

1106
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:48.519
gets a call of the radio. He finds out that

1107
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:50.400
they have a video of the suspect, but also that

1108
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.400
the State Police are in custody of it because they're

1109
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.679
going to be taking over the investigation and he needs

1110
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:56.320
the clearest men out there leave a couple for when

1111
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:57.239
the Stateies.

1112
00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:59.480
Arrive, which I mean is what would make sense.

1113
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.719
Yeah, So we cut back over to a military academy

1114
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:06.000
now as we meet Jesse Chessier who is in his dorm,

1115
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:09.360
but he's in his private little photo lab developing.

1116
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:10.639
He has a dark room.

1117
00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:11.360
He has a dark room.

1118
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:12.239
Yeah, he's developing.

1119
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:13.880
He's developing film.

1120
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.440
And we get a shot of the film as we

1121
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:17.400
see a man with what I can only assume are

1122
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:20.840
two sex workers. I don't know what you would assume

1123
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:27.920
pose pose was who was Commander Siscle played by JK. Simmons,

1124
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.920
who also shows up at Jesse's door knocking, and that's

1125
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.159
when Jesse opened the door, wishing him a Merry Christmas

1126
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:35.320
and also is like, you know, I can't give it

1127
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:36.639
to you out here, and that's when he's like, oh,

1128
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:38.079
you know, well, I gonna go ahead and you know,

1129
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:39.559
send some pictures to your wife that I just did

1130
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:41.599
an ll role. They look great, and he calls him

1131
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:44.199
a demon seed, hands over the money, wishes him his best,

1132
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:45.519
and that's when he shuts the door. So we get

1133
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.519
the idea that Jesse has just blackmailed his commander at.

1134
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:50.960
The you know, we get the idea that Jesse has

1135
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:55.559
been blackmailing. Yeah, it's ongoing younger.

1136
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:56.559
Yeah.

1137
00:52:56.599 --> 00:53:00.519
So meanwhile, Lloyd and Carolyn arrive at the house. Oh wait,

1138
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:02.880
I missed the thing. So when they're arguing for the

1139
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:03.519
first time.

1140
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:06.239
Yeah, yeah, one of my favorite moments. Yeah, they argue

1141
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:10.639
about Yeah, Lloyd just powers through a stop stop sign yeah,

1142
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.480
and didn't see it and she was trying to tell

1143
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:17.239
him and so was us. So then when they're he's like,

1144
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:18.800
there was no stops on it, and she's like there

1145
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:20.679
was there was no stops on He just goes great,

1146
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:25.079
I detect my fucking parents, which is such a great

1147
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:30.639
moment because, for real, if you've ever kids, if you've

1148
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:34.400
ever had to deal with somebody who had to deal

1149
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:39.320
with a couple who are awful. Yeah, the oxygen just

1150
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:46.440
leaves the room when they fight. So the idea of

1151
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:52.400
being an armed gunman taking them hostage and they can't

1152
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:56.239
help themselves. It's really funny because that's the same concept

1153
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.639
as like if they're at a party together, yea, and

1154
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:01.280
they can't help themselves. They're gonna you even though everyone's here,

1155
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:03.480
everyone's listening home. Couldn't you just save this till you

1156
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:05.239
get home? It's like, no, they can't help themselves. Well,

1157
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:06.920
even a guy say there's like I will shoot you

1158
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:08.400
if you don't do what I say, And they're like, yeah,

1159
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:11.119
but he's wrong, you know. It's it's yeah, it's so

1160
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:13.280
good and and and it's why if you haven't picked

1161
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.519
up yet, that's why it's called the ref Yeah, because

1162
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.639
he ends up becoming basically a referee for this dysfunctional

1163
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:22.119
family exactly. Phenomenal title, phenomenal usage.

1164
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:24.760
So meanwhile, the three arrive at the house. Lloyd turns

1165
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:26.920
off the alarm and that's when we also hear the

1166
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.039
Jesse's leaving a message saying he's gonna be late, and

1167
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:31.000
Gus is noticed in the house He's like, you know, man,

1168
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:31.760
this is a nice house.

1169
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:32.679
You know what do you guys?

1170
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:34.480
Do you know this doesn't come cheap And that's when

1171
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:36.719
Lloyd's like, oh, I run an antique store intown, and

1172
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:40.280
Carolyn interjects that it's his mother's shop, and.

1173
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:41.679
That's when they start to argue again.

1174
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.159
Then Gus makes a new rule that only people with

1175
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:48.480
guns can yell why guns, but you too can't yell

1176
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:49.360
why no gun?

1177
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:51.440
No guns?

1178
00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:53.760
Simple literally equations, simple equation.

1179
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:56.039
So he also asked Lloyd if they have any rope,

1180
00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:58.159
and that's when Lloyd is like, you know, well, why

1181
00:54:58.159 --> 00:54:58.880
do you need some rope?

1182
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:00.800
And he's like he's like, hey, did I ask any question?

1183
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:02.960
Did I ask why? Like, do you have any rope? No,

1184
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:04.719
we don't have any rope, and Carolyn's like, we have

1185
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:09.880
bungee cords the ouchless. So that's when he asked to

1186
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:11.119
see where the bungee cords are.

1187
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:13.719
And he also notices that the dinner table is set

1188
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.039
and he finds out that they have guests arriving at

1189
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.840
nine pm, and that's when we cut to a diner.

1190
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:25.519
Your favorite kisses me off so much like to the

1191
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:29.199
depth of my spirit. This scene makes me angry, Yeah,

1192
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:30.280
tell him what's happening.

1193
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.199
So we cut to a diner where we meet Lloyd's

1194
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:35.239
brother Gary with his wife Connie, their kids, John and Mary,

1195
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:38.599
plus we get to meet mother Rose Ah, mother Rose,

1196
00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:41.719
and they're getting dinner at the diner because that's when

1197
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.440
uh Mary asked, you know, I thought we were gonna

1198
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:46.519
eat at uncle Lloyd's house. And that's when Carolyn or

1199
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:48.880
when Connie is like, God knows what your aunt Carolyn's

1200
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:50.000
making blah blah blah blah.

1201
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:52.119
So they're eating to avoid eating Carolyn's food.

1202
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.519
They're eating before they go to dinner.

1203
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:55.960
Yeah.

1204
00:55:56.119 --> 00:56:00.599
The just the audacity like that is such a like,

1205
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:04.960
just stop wasting everyone's time. If you hate it so much,

1206
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:08.159
just don't go. I know, I for some reason, this

1207
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:10.239
one really presses my buttons.

1208
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.400
So back at the house, Gus ask you know what's

1209
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.119
the worst die bar in town? At this point, we

1210
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.280
see that Lloyd and Carolyn are tied to shares a

1211
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:19.400
bungee cords and he's like, you know what's the worst

1212
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:21.199
die bar in town? Both of them say a different

1213
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:23.159
one and then argue about how do they know that,

1214
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:26.199
And that's when Gus goes to call the mackerel lounds

1215
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:27.280
searching for Murray.

1216
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:29.400
Yes, and of course Murray is there.

1217
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:31.119
Murray is there, and that's when he's like, you know,

1218
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:33.440
is the guy named Murray there? The bartender calls to Murray,

1219
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:34.760
He's like, I don't think he's here, Powdy. He's like,

1220
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:36.800
why don't you try if there's a waste of fucking

1221
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:41.239
life named Murray there? So the bartender, yeah, yeah, he's

1222
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:43.159
a waste of fucking life, Niam Murray here, and Murray

1223
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:47.719
goes Gussie Gussy so takes the phone and that's when

1224
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:50.320
Gus just lays into him for leaving the scene. You know,

1225
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:51.880
if the cop showed up. He was supposed to act

1226
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:53.599
like a drunk vagrant and that's, you know, what the

1227
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:55.679
plan was. And that's when he's like, I got scared.

1228
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:57.639
I had to leave. And he's like, okay, well, then

1229
00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:58.360
the new plan.

1230
00:56:58.280 --> 00:56:59.480
Is, I need you to go to the heart the

1231
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:01.719
local harb which is Windsor Harbor and steal a boat.

1232
00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:03.280
And he's like, what the hell do I know about boats?

1233
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:04.760
Like I'm a car thief, Like what do I know

1234
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:06.880
about boats? And he's like learn it's eight thirty now.

1235
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.119
Curfew starts at ten. That should give you plenty of time.

1236
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:11.519
And also, you know, if you don't pull this off,

1237
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:13.679
you know what, men like you in prison make wet

1238
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:17.440
nurses wet nurses. So we also Murray asked, you know,

1239
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:18.840
is there a chance that he gets to the loot

1240
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:20.559
and that's when he's like, no, Murray, figure this out.

1241
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:22.639
So he hangs up with them, and Gus goes to

1242
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.559
the fridge, takes out a bottle of wine, takes a

1243
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.280
long gulf from it before asking Carolyn and Lloyd do

1244
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.360
either of them smoke? And that's when Lloyd's like, I

1245
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:31.039
don't smoke, Carolyn.

1246
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:31.199
Just quit.

1247
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:33.639
Yeah, And Gus.

1248
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:36.079
Sees through this immediately walking up to Carolyn and going

1249
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:37.519
just quit, Huh.

1250
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:37.840
Where are they?

1251
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:38.920
Where'd you hide him?

1252
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:40.239
And she's like, I don't know what you're talk about,

1253
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:41.840
and he's like, where you hide them, Carolyn?

1254
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:44.039
So then that's what she says. They're behind the chessboard.

1255
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:46.159
He goes to the chessboard, takes them out, and just

1256
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:50.920
starts like smelling them. Naturally, Lloyd and Carolyn start bickering again,

1257
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:54.039
so Gus just walks over pushes both the fair chairs

1258
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:54.920
to the ground.

1259
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:57.599
Well, because she starts this bs of like, well, I

1260
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.440
had them because I never said I quit. I said

1261
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.119
I quit smoking cigarettes. But I'll puff a couple of

1262
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.280
times and not inhale, just to like whatever and blah

1263
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:06.760
blahlah say fight you fighting? And I love that you

1264
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.280
push it them over and he goes, Caroline, did you

1265
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:13.199
say you quit? Did you say you quit? Yes, then

1266
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:14.000
you're a liar.

1267
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.719
Capital L small I small, A small R.

1268
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:20.920
Lloyd's laughing at this point, and that's when he was

1269
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:22.480
and that's when he's like, He's like, you saw the

1270
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:22.880
sop signe?

1271
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:23.039
Did he?

1272
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:24.639
Lloyd? And that's when he points the gun.

1273
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:28.400
In his face, like brushing his nose with it sometimes,

1274
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:31.920
and Lloyd admits he does, and he's like, you're both liars.

1275
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.559
And that's when as he's walking away, and then they're

1276
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.199
on the floor, Carolyn's or Lloyd goes, what's that smell?

1277
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:38.880
And he goes shut up, and that's when Carolyn's like,

1278
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:40.639
do you know you're bleeding? And he's like, oh yeah,

1279
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:43.280
dog bit me and he's like, Cannibal, bitch you. The

1280
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:47.000
dog's name is Cannibal. So they offer him band aids.

1281
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:50.840
Carolyn even says they have the ouchless couchless and that's

1282
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.400
when Gus walks away and Lloyd starts giving her shit.

1283
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:54.960
He's like, you know, you want to have sex with him?

1284
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:56.880
And she's like, I'm frightened.

1285
00:58:57.079 --> 00:58:57.840
This is a reaction.

1286
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.360
Didn't they teach you that before? You're alien?

1287
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:05.559
Lords dropped you off here Now they're they're fighting is exquisite.

1288
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.000
We for all to also add that Gus sprays them

1289
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:09.960
with the sink while they're arguing, while he's on the

1290
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:11.480
phone with Murray, hes like, cald off for a second,

1291
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:12.239
just sprays.

1292
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.480
He just turns the sink on and uses the spray

1293
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:16.960
head and just douses them both a little bit.

1294
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:18.400
So suddenly the doorbell sounds.

1295
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:21.199
We see that George, who is now dressed as Santa Claus,

1296
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:23.559
is bringing around his wife's fruitcake as Carolyn goes to

1297
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:25.840
answer the door, and we get the we get the

1298
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:29.159
idea that Carolyn really doesn't like the fruitcake because she

1299
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:30.880
he's like, you know, I bet you thought that Margaret

1300
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:32.119
left her off her fruitcake list.

1301
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:33.199
Well, she would never do that.

1302
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:37.039
No, you never do that now, David, Yes, are you

1303
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:38.320
a fruitcake kind of person?

1304
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:38.639
Uh?

1305
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:39.559
It just depends.

1306
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:42.599
I've had good fruitcake and bad fruitcake. It was about

1307
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:44.440
five years ago. I actually got into it because it

1308
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:45.320
had always been a joke.

1309
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:46.360
Have you well? Of course?

1310
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:46.639
Yeah?

1311
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:46.960
Have you?

1312
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:47.559
So?

1313
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:49.880
Was the bad fruitcake? Store bought?

1314
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:50.360
Store bought?

1315
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:51.920
What was the good fruitcake?

1316
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.719
Good fruitcake is one that my friend Sue makes, which

1317
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:57.360
is entirely from scratch. It was like the first like

1318
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.480
fruitcake I ever had. Okay, and it was It's phenomenal.

1319
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:03.719
Do you even? Movie?

1320
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:14.960
Will be right back, welcome back to do you even movie?

1321
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:24.239
And and before we get back to the film after Thanksgiving? Yes,

1322
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:26.920
is there any family members you want to throw under

1323
01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:30.360
the bus for cooking poorly that you left out from Thanksgiving?

1324
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:31.119
No, we're good.

1325
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:33.639
We're good here any any dishes or side dishes that

1326
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:35.920
are always turning out bad? I need to just like

1327
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.360
it's okay, We're We're deep into the show. No one.

1328
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:40.360
No one's gonna hear this except the people who actually

1329
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:41.920
want to hear what you think about the raft. No

1330
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.360
one who loves us is still listening. We are, This

1331
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:45.679
is just you sons of bitches.

1332
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:47.960
Yes, though was delicious?

1333
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:52.320
Actually, oh yeah, did I even talk about my my cousin?

1334
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:55.360
I don't think you did. Maybe you did, but I

1335
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:56.000
can't real.

1336
01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:59.880
It's it's just my family. Thanksgiving got canceled because my

1337
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:02.360
cousin was cooking everything out to come to the emergency room.

1338
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:05.199
Yeah he's okay, but uh so I ended up spending

1339
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:07.119
most of Thanksgiving at the Cigar Lounge. Yes you did,

1340
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.000
which was actually you got an awesome plate from what

1341
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:11.840
I saw, sir, Oh my gosh.

1342
01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:12.719
Spread at the lounge.

1343
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:14.440
I went in there and smoked a cigar and then

1344
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.440
I asked Gonzo, do you mind if I take a

1345
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:19.639
plate home? And he was like, please, do you have

1346
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:22.159
any idea how much turkey I made? Yeah? No, no,

1347
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.960
it was just that's just a side note. Anyway, back

1348
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:25.679
to your bullshit.

1349
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:29.440
So that's when George as Santa also brings up you know, hey,

1350
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:31.239
you know if has that sony years around him, so

1351
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:33.960
waiting on our Chester match. Oh also, if he's seen it,

1352
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.679
we're still missing the baby Jesus from the the Ntivity

1353
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:39.039
scene a couple of years ago and then just saw well.

1354
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:41.159
He says like, if he returns, no, I don't want

1355
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.320
to ask any questions, I'm not here or whatever. We

1356
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:44.280
just want it.

1357
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:45.280
We just want it back.

1358
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:47.559
And of course Carolyn's like, you know, he blames Jesse

1359
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:49.800
for every year. He doesn't even play chess anymore. Meanwhile,

1360
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:52.119
Gus is getting to the fruit take does not like it,

1361
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:54.760
spits it out. Yeah, So that's when he's like, you know,

1362
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:57.000
where are those where those band aids at? So they

1363
01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:59.119
start going up the steps and that's when he notices

1364
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:00.159
a real Chagall on.

1365
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.360
The wall and he's like, you know, Chagall on the wall, on.

1366
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:06.239
The wall, and he's like, you know this is nice

1367
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:07.719
and she's like, oh, yeah, you know you want it?

1368
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:09.360
Like I can't stand that painting. Every time I walk

1369
01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:11.440
past it, I think of Lloyd's mother. And that's when

1370
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:13.360
he's just like, you know, this is a real one, right,

1371
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.159
Like that really pisses me off that you guys have

1372
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:16.320
this and you don't appreciate it.

1373
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:18.360
Yeah, he's like, if you believe this hanging on somebody's wall,

1374
01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:19.480
they don't even appreciate it.

1375
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:21.039
Probably because you never worked a day in your life.

1376
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:22.679
And that's when she's like, that's not true. We had

1377
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:24.679
a restaurant. It was Italian.

1378
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:26.280
It went wrong. And that's when Gus is like, wait,

1379
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:27.159
are we girlfriends?

1380
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:27.519
Like?

1381
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:28.239
Are we girlfriends?

1382
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:29.559
So contin they continue up the steps.

1383
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:33.440
Yeah, but I love that sequence because you kind of

1384
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:38.159
get a sense that like it's not that they're rich, Yeah,

1385
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:41.920
it's that they have a nice home and nice things

1386
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:44.840
and they don't give a shit. No, that's what bothers him. Yeah,

1387
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:48.760
because he's a criminal, he kind of lives. We find

1388
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:50.719
out what his life is like a little bit later,

1389
01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:55.239
and to me, the older I get, the sadder it

1390
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.679
is when he explains like how he lives, it's very sad.

1391
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:01.079
So we cut to outside. We see George walking away

1392
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:01.519
from the house.

1393
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.079
We see that Jesse has picked up a limo and

1394
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.320
he is in the limo watching George walk away, and

1395
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.079
that's when he asked the lima driver, you know, how

1396
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:09.719
about I give you another fifty to go around the block.

1397
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:11.079
And he's like, hey, kid, like, you know, I want

1398
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:12.559
to get home. It's my family. And he's like, oh,

1399
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:14.159
that's we still throw in the fifty and he's like,

1400
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:16.480
all right, it's your money. So Jesse does not want

1401
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:17.360
to go home, no, and.

1402
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:20.719
Why wouldn't he want to? I mean this dream factory

1403
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:21.639
of a home. Yeah.

1404
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.239
So meanwhile across town, George is now at another local

1405
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:27.960
Christmas party as Santa and the kids are excited. The

1406
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:29.840
family's excited, and that's when they're like, you know, do

1407
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:31.599
you think Santa might want something to eat? And he's like, oh,

1408
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.280
Santa would love something. Kids run up giving him cookies

1409
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.840
and milk, like a lot of oreos in the hand.

1410
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.320
He's like, all right, kids, enough with the cookies. Enough

1411
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:41.039
cook but don't.

1412
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:43.440
Worry, We'll check back in with George h plenty.

1413
01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:45.800
So we now see that Gus has moved Carolyn and

1414
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:48.440
Lloyd upstairs. He's tied them together, facing each other on

1415
01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:51.280
the bed. They're still doing bickering, and they're also trying

1416
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:52.880
to get loose. Carolyn's trying to figure out how to

1417
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.920
get the bungee cord loose, and that's while meanwhile Gus

1418
01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:59.000
is hearing about Jesse's the linquid side goes through the

1419
01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:02.760
room in and finds it finds in trunk.

1420
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:03.719
The baby Jesus.

1421
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.159
And this is one of the things I love, is

1422
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:08.719
that so well, first of all, when they're tied together,

1423
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:11.719
they they also start to find a moment of levity together,

1424
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.119
which is really sweet, where they're kind of commenting on

1425
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.119
the fact that they are rubbing against each other trying

1426
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:18.280
to you know, do whatever. Well, what accuses her of

1427
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:22.400
like sleeping with him, Like you want to sleep with him,

1428
01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:25.599
don't you. But when Gus walks into this kid's room,

1429
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:27.400
it's just so great because he looks around the room

1430
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.199
and immediately knows where bad things are hidden. Yeah, because

1431
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:34.440
he's like, well, if this kid's a delinquent, I'm a delinquent.

1432
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:37.280
I know what you know, I know where it'll be

1433
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:40.719
finds the baby Jesus. Like, but it's also it's not

1434
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:45.599
just it's also because like the kid's mom is in denial,

1435
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:49.159
and maybe if they paid more attention, they'd know he

1436
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:51.880
was getting into this kind of trouble. And I think

1437
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:54.639
that's a really telling moment too, because one thing we

1438
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:57.480
start to realize very quickly about Gus is that Gus

1439
01:04:57.679 --> 01:04:59.960
is a sympathetic person. He is not just a simple

1440
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.719
athetic character as in you feel bad for him, but

1441
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:06.559
I mean he's a sympathetic person. He looks at their situation.

1442
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:09.239
He's like, why the what the fuck is wrong with

1443
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:11.800
you people? Yeah, like why are you so angry? Why

1444
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:16.639
are you so sad? Like if you haven't talk about it, Jesus,

1445
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:20.079
you know. And I that's because that whole sequence just

1446
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:23.000
you know, did you say you'd quit did you see this.

1447
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:26.239
It's like they're so overwhelmed with their bag. It's the

1448
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.360
only way you can get them to actually speak honestly

1449
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:30.000
to each other and knit they're wrong, it's with a

1450
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:33.519
gun in their face. So good, so good, so good.

1451
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:35.719
And by this point, Gus is also kind of even

1452
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:39.079
more coming undone because George told them, you know that

1453
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:41.559
Willard called these radio stations, said he's gonna offer one

1454
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:43.159
hundred thousand to anybody that turns them in.

1455
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:45.599
So now Gus doesn't know if he can trust anybody either.

1456
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:49.119
Well, he shouldn't trust anybody any now, I mean, just

1457
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:52.639
like the tagline of the hit film The Room, can

1458
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:54.760
anyone really trust anybody?

1459
01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:57.880
So meanwhile, Carolyn's trying to wiggle out of the binds

1460
01:05:57.920 --> 01:05:59.599
and she's like, you know, Lloyd, move your hand and

1461
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:01.000
he's like, that's not my hand. And she's like, well,

1462
01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:03.320
what is that And he's like it's nothing, and she's like,

1463
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:05.519
doesn't feel like nothing, and he's like it's the friction,

1464
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:08.159
exposing that Lloyd has an erection while they're tied together.

1465
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:11.800
Wow, David, look at David with the with the clinical

1466
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.239
terminology direction erection. Yeah, I thought you would say he

1467
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.440
has a sport and a bit of wood. He has

1468
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:21.400
a bona, a bonu, a bona. The bishop is awake

1469
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:23.840
and ready for mass, so he states.

1470
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:24.320
It's just a friction.

1471
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:27.920
Gus coming in comments, Lloyd, you animal, and he also

1472
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:29.880
questions didn't you leave yet, and Gus like, well, did

1473
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.159
you hear the phone ring? And that's when they remind

1474
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:33.800
him that, you know, they can't he can't keep them

1475
01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:36.079
tied up all night. They have guests coming over, Jesse's

1476
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:38.280
coming over, and that's when Gus is like, you know, well,

1477
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:39.719
I guess we're just gonna have to make do with

1478
01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:41.440
what we got and starts untying them to use some

1479
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:43.159
of the bungee cords for Jesse when he arrives.

1480
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:45.079
Yeah, because they explain they have nothing else to tie

1481
01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:45.639
him up. Yeah.

1482
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:49.320
So meanwhile Gary and the family are being stopped at

1483
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:51.559
a police checkpoint, and that's when mother Rose is like,

1484
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:53.960
I can't believe they're doing this to people on Christmas Eve.

1485
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:55.519
And that's when Connie is just like, you know, well,

1486
01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:57.320
there's a criminal out and they got to catch him.

1487
01:06:57.559 --> 01:06:59.840
And Mary's like, maybe in the true spirit of Chris,

1488
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.119
they'll catch him and let him go, and Connie's like,

1489
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:02.920
who would do that?

1490
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:07.159
I don't know Republicans, which is a funny throwaway line,

1491
01:07:07.199 --> 01:07:10.119
but it's also a really good example that Mary is

1492
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:13.679
the more outspoken child. Yeah, and the one who's willing

1493
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:15.960
to say something that's gonna piss somebody in the family.

1494
01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:18.440
Oh yeah, Because then that becomes more apparent when we

1495
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:21.519
get to the delightful dinner sequence.

1496
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:24.480
Dinner sequence, So back at the house, Gus reeties Carolyn

1497
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:28.119
and Lloyd to their bedpost, now Chastisinglloy's for his simple

1498
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:31.480
mindedness because basically, what does he say at this point,

1499
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:34.280
This is where Lloyd is basically kind of calling us

1500
01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:36.079
out for his for his act that he can't get away,

1501
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:37.880
like you know, you're a criminal, You're gonna get caught.

1502
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:39.960
He's like, fuck you, Lloyd, I work for a living.

1503
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:42.440
Yeah yeah, yeah, He's like, I not all of us

1504
01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:44.920
can just open a restaurant. I haven't closed, and he's

1505
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.920
just you told him, you told him out the restaurant.

1506
01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:49.159
You can bring up his rich mother.

1507
01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:52.119
And that's when Lloyd quickly shut them up and he's like,

1508
01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:53.480
you know, well, you know, I would love to be

1509
01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:56.360
care free and live like you do and take classes

1510
01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:59.000
but somebody has to pick up the bill, so just

1511
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:00.320
excuse the shit of me.

1512
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:06.280
So good, No, it's it's the way everything is woven together. Yeah.

1513
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.320
I love when people are pulled into shit that has

1514
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:13.320
nothing to do with them. But the level of absurdity

1515
01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:16.159
of this scenario makes it exquisitely funny. Yeah.

1516
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.479
So discussion is cut short as we hear Jesse arrive downstairs.

1517
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:21.279
Gus tells him to be quiet as we Jesse go

1518
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:24.319
into his room, hiding a briefcase full of money under

1519
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:26.159
the floorboards. As he takes the floorboard up and just

1520
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:28.880
puts the stacks right under before going into their room,

1521
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:30.720
he quickly sees his parents tied up, and that's when

1522
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:32.840
Gus tells him put his hands behind his back. Jesse

1523
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:34.520
realizes who he is and he's like, you know what

1524
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:36.119
are you doing? Like this isn't your remo? You do

1525
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:38.760
like robbery hostages. It's a no win situation.

1526
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:45.319
Kid is so versed in being a criminal, it's so good.

1527
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:47.000
But Gus is like, you know you too, like you

1528
01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:48.680
know what, this family needs a mute, and I'm gonna

1529
01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:50.239
remind everybody right now I have a gun.

1530
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:51.600
Gun. Gun.

1531
01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:55.000
So that's when Gus takes notice that the apple does

1532
01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:56.720
not fall far from the tree. He reminds me he

1533
01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:58.840
has a gun, and then they try to explain once

1534
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:00.600
again they have company coming over and he's like, well,

1535
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:02.880
dinner's canceled, and like, well, it can't be canceled.

1536
01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:03.840
They're on their way here.

1537
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:06.720
And that's when he's like, you know, as soon as

1538
01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:08.239
I as soon as he get my call, I'll leave.

1539
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:11.800
And that's when Jesse goes. It smells like piss, Just

1540
01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:12.640
get in the other room.

1541
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:16.159
Yeah, yeah, I love that he becomes sensitive about the

1542
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:17.680
fact that he smells like cappy. Yeah.

1543
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:20.760
So at the station, the officers are sitting around watching

1544
01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:23.159
a cable broadcast if It's a Wonderful Life, and one

1545
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:25.720
of them is like, you know, I've never seen this before.

1546
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:27.119
And the guy's like, what don't you live in America

1547
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:28.560
And he's like, well, you know, it's always on, but

1548
01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:31.199
you know, busy with the holidays and whatnot, cooking and

1549
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:33.399
the kids. So that's when Lieutenant Huff comes in and

1550
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:34.880
he's like, you know what about the show you does

1551
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:37.560
not leave this room. Give it a chance. Look at

1552
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:39.720
this plays the tape and it's the video of the robbery.

1553
01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:41.840
It's nice falling down the chuote and that's when they

1554
01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:44.720
realize it's Willard's place. Suddenly he's like, you know, he

1555
01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:46.199
gets a call and he's like, you know, hey, I

1556
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:47.720
want you to watch this, but you know, wait till

1557
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:49.680
I get back and we'll look at this again. So

1558
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:51.960
the guys, being impatient, are just like, you know, well,

1559
01:09:52.199 --> 01:09:53.399
you know what, should we watch it again?

1560
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:55.279
We watch a little bit more, Yeah, but we could

1561
01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:57.119
just watch a little bit more of the movie, and.

1562
01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:59.520
Not knowing how the remote works, one of them accidentally

1563
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:02.560
hits record and then they change the station and we'll

1564
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:03.760
get back to that in just a second.

1565
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:08.159
Oh yes, oh yes, do you even?

1566
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:19.399
Movie will be right back. Welcome back to do You Even?

1567
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:19.840
Movie?

1568
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:28.520
So, meanwhile, Murray arrives at Windsor Harbor. He quickly finds

1569
01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:30.000
a boat and he starts stepping on it and a

1570
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:31.680
woman comes out and she's like, you know, who are

1571
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:33.800
you what are you doing? And he's like, I'm Murray

1572
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:36.119
and she's like, what do you want? We cut away

1573
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:38.920
from them. Back at the house, Lloyd questions Jesse on

1574
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:40.720
how did he get home, while Carolyn tries to talk

1575
01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:43.000
to him, but Lloyd interrupts and that's when Jesse makes

1576
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:44.760
up a lie that he rode with a friend. Lloyd's like,

1577
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:46.159
you know what friend, and he's like, fine, I took

1578
01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:46.520
a limo?

1579
01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:47.840
How did you afford a limo?

1580
01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:50.039
Meanwhile, all this is happening, Gus is in the bathroom,

1581
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.960
turning the water on, putting his fingers in his ears, going.

1582
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:57.439
Just trying to escape these people for five seconds.

1583
01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.640
So then they all start arguing again. Gus comes out

1584
01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:02.079
of the room and he's like, you know how, God,

1585
01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:03.600
I thought you all were family, Like, how can you

1586
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:08.000
talk to each other like this? So he asked, you know,

1587
01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:09.920
what's the quickest way to the dock, and that causes

1588
01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:12.239
another argument and Jesse's like, you know, there's a path

1589
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:14.439
through the woods. They don't agree with that, and that's

1590
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:16.760
when they start arguing again. Jesse looks at Gus and goes,

1591
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:18.600
you're never getting out of here, you know that, right,

1592
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:24.039
So we cut back to the station as Huff realizes

1593
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:26.199
or Huff goes back out and he's like, Okay, you know,

1594
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:27.840
we don't have much time because he knows the state

1595
01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:30.159
police are coming for this tape, which you know, they

1596
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:32.840
never explained how he got it. So he's like you know,

1597
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:35.800
we don't have much time. Remember any characteristics that you can.

1598
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:37.800
He goes to push play and it's a scene from

1599
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:39.960
It's a Wonderful Life, and he's like, well, that can't

1600
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:42.640
be right. Rewinds it again. The scene plays, and that's

1601
01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:44.880
when they realize they taped over the tape. Right as

1602
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:46.880
a guy arrives and he's like, mister huff, I hear

1603
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:48.359
you have some evidence for the state police.

1604
01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:53.079
Remember what I said about Uh, he'd been angry for

1605
01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:56.640
a long time about the peace. Yeah, there you go.

1606
01:11:56.960 --> 01:11:59.359
So Gus paces back at the house twirling a doll

1607
01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:01.640
around by the smoking a cigarette, and that's when Lloyd's like,

1608
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:03.520
excuse me, could you be careful with those dolls?

1609
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:04.119
Oh?

1610
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:04.640
I'm sorry.

1611
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:07.000
It just takes it and just zips the head right

1612
01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:07.680
off and throws this.

1613
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:12.840
So a TV news report cuts in and Willard has

1614
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:15.000
now raised the reward from one hundred thousand dollars to

1615
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:18.119
two hundred thousand dollars. Gus smokes a cigarette, adding he's

1616
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:20.439
in hell, Connecticut's the fifth Circle of Hell. Suddenly the

1617
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:22.520
smoke alarm starts going off. It's right above him, but

1618
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:24.119
he can't just jump up and get it, so he

1619
01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:26.399
gives to get a chair, goes right through the chair,

1620
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:28.600
stands on the bed, falls off the bed. When he

1621
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:30.560
falls off the bed, though, the gun gets loose. Jesse

1622
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:32.199
has gotten loose at this point. He gets the gun

1623
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:34.359
and he's pointing it on Gus, and that's when Carolyn

1624
01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.239
and Luter like, you know, Jesse, be careful, like stop what.

1625
01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:38.399
You're doing, and Gus is like shut up. He's like,

1626
01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:39.680
you know, are you gonna shoot a kid?

1627
01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:40.720
And he's like, I'll shoot you and he's like, I

1628
01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:42.880
don't think you will, gets the upper hand, gets it

1629
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:45.560
away from Jesse, then shoots the smoke detector, killing it.

1630
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:48.399
Yes, And that's another sign you know that the parents

1631
01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:51.119
clearly care about Jesse a whole lot, because when he

1632
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:52.640
has the gun, their first thought is just give him

1633
01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:54.960
back the gun. Yeah, don't try to be the guy

1634
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.159
who shoots him. Yeah, you know you don't.

1635
01:12:57.560 --> 01:12:59.720
So Gus walks over with the phone to Carolyn and

1636
01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:01.960
that's when it's Connie, who they've stopped at the convenience

1637
01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:04.960
store that they stopped at when Gush kidnapped them, and

1638
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:07.560
they're getting more snacks, and that's when she's like, oh,

1639
01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:09.239
you know, we are caught in traffic, but will be

1640
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:10.800
there soon. I hope that dinner's hot.

1641
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:11.399
Can't wait.

1642
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:15.560
Ah, So they're gonna be there in twenty minutes. And

1643
01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:18.439
that is when we see Siskel is also at the

1644
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:21.439
military academy. He's listening to Blue Christmas. The phone rings.

1645
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:23.239
It's his wife and she's like, honey, where are you?

1646
01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:25.439
Your family's here? The kids are asking about you? And

1647
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:27.239
he's looking at the negatives of the photos.

1648
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:29.960
Yeah, he's reflecting on everything.

1649
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:31.439
Yeah, he says, he's got something to do and then

1650
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:33.279
I'll be home. So back at the house, Gus has

1651
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:35.760
now moved Jesse into a closet, tied him to a chair,

1652
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:38.439
and that's when you know, Jesse's like, you know, hey man,

1653
01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:39.920
you know I've got some money, and you know I

1654
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:40.960
know a quick way of the docks.

1655
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.079
And that's when Gus is like, you know, kids, shut up,

1656
01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:45.640
Like you don't know what you're talking about. And do

1657
01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:46.600
you want to take it from here?

1658
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:50.159
I mean you talk about when he wants he wants

1659
01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:54.159
to run away with Gus. Yeah, uh, it's just it's now.

1660
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:57.600
He basically explains that his life is stealing a bunch

1661
01:13:57.600 --> 01:13:57.960
of stuff.

1662
01:13:58.039 --> 01:13:58.239
Yeah.

1663
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:01.880
Usually he runs off the Jamie Hm fences the stuff

1664
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:04.279
for about half what it's actually worth. Yep, hangs out

1665
01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:07.039
with a buddy, drinks my ties, then the money runs out,

1666
01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:10.560
comes home, does it all over again, but this time

1667
01:14:11.119 --> 01:14:13.239
is supposed to but even he's cynical about it. Yeah,

1668
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:16.920
this time is the one last score supposed to stop

1669
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:21.600
doing it. Yeah, but like his life is just it's

1670
01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:23.359
so sad. And then he even says, you know, it

1671
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:26.279
may sound uh, yeah, it sounds cool to a teenager.

1672
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:28.119
Yeah when you're fifteen, but it's you're pretty sex.

1673
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.119
Sad when you're thirty five years old. You have no house,

1674
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:32.760
no wife, no kids, nobody who gives a shit whether

1675
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:33.399
you live or die.

1676
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:35.760
And then I go on, I watched Go see kids

1677
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:37.640
like you going on Oprah and just bitching about when

1678
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:40.760
you have everything available to you. Yeah, and he's like,

1679
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:42.760
welcome to the real world where things don't go your

1680
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:43.319
fucking way.

1681
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:44.520
Yeah, such a good line.

1682
01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:46.960
Well, and then he says, but everything does go your way. Yeah,

1683
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:48.800
he's just like a gun. Yeah, and then he and

1684
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.159
then he says, you know, I thought you were smart. Yeah,

1685
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:52.119
I guess I was wrong.

1686
01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:52.600
Because I was wrong.

1687
01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:55.079
So he gags him closing him up into the closet,

1688
01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:56.800
and that's when he goes out to Carolyn and Lloyd

1689
01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.359
and he says, all right, house rules, no phone, no TV,

1690
01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:02.119
no fighting. If you fight, I'll take your son with me.

1691
01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:04.279
And he's like, now, tell me about this doctor as

1692
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:05.880
he's putting on a tie. So that's when we see

1693
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:07.960
that he is going to pose as the marriage counselor.

1694
01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:11.399
Yes, he will be doctor Wong, doctor Wong.

1695
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:14.199
So back at the station, Huff is told by the

1696
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:16.840
Bayview guy Bob, and he's like, you know, hey, the

1697
01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:18.359
state police are your men?

1698
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:20.039
Are to report to me? Blah blah blah.

1699
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:20.239
You know.

1700
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:22.159
Oh and by the way, your Christmas present came in.

1701
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:23.560
I talked to my friend, the mayor, and he says,

1702
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:25.720
you're to be out of here the day after Christmas.

1703
01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:26.319
You know.

1704
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:27.560
Isn't that a lovely Noel?

1705
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:29.920
Oh, this is so brutal.

1706
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:34.039
And that's when Huff says, Bob, I nailed your wife

1707
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:36.720
last year. You were out of town and I nailed

1708
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:40.000
her after the Bayview citizens meeting. Three times, Bob, we

1709
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:43.039
went three times. She said, you never go three times, Bob.

1710
01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:45.880
And that's exit to the movie.

1711
01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:48.359
Yeah, that's that's it. He just says that to him.

1712
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:55.399
It's so good. I like, I just I can't imagine

1713
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:58.800
how the writer came up with that. Yeah, but it's perfection.

1714
01:15:58.960 --> 01:15:59.640
It's so good.

1715
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:02.479
So back at the house, the deputies Phil and Steve

1716
01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:05.680
arrive knocking on the door because they want to see Gary,

1717
01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:07.760
their old high school friends, and that's and Lloyd answers

1718
01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:09.439
the door and they're like, you know, it's Gary here,

1719
01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:11.720
and he's like, oh, you know, not here. Meanwhile, Gus

1720
01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:13.640
and Carolyn are hiding in the closet. Gus goes to

1721
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:16.039
lean on the on the rack and the whole rod

1722
01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:19.039
gives out, so he falls, and the guys think it's Carolyn.

1723
01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:20.439
So they're like, you know, we'd love to say hello,

1724
01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:21.840
you know, we'd love to come in. And that's when

1725
01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:24.399
Lloyd invites them in, walks him to the kitchen, but

1726
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:26.880
then he gets pulled into the closet by Gus and

1727
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:28.199
he's like, you know, what the hell'd.

1728
01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:29.079
You bring him in for? And he's like, well, you know,

1729
01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:30.359
they heard a sound. What was I supposed to do?

1730
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:32.079
And he's like, she could have been upstairs taken a shower,

1731
01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:34.800
wrapping presence, and he's like, what is this a liar's convention?

1732
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.560
What is this a liar's convention? I don't I did

1733
01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:39.880
the best I could. They and he even mentions like

1734
01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:41.439
it'd be weird if I didn't let them in because

1735
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:42.000
I've known them.

1736
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:42.640
Since high school.

1737
01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:44.319
Yeah, He's like, it would have been more suspicious to

1738
01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:46.000
do that. So upstairs in the closet we see Jesse

1739
01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:48.600
is getting to work, trying to get free of his binds. Downstairs,

1740
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:50.960
the deputies using the phone have like called his wife

1741
01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:52.760
and he's like, you know, I'm not gonna pick up wine.

1742
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:54.880
Your brother can suck on grapes, all right, I'll pick

1743
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:57.119
up the milk and the donuts. And that's when he's like, well,

1744
01:16:57.119 --> 01:16:59.239
hang on there. Getting another call and we see that

1745
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:01.479
it's Murray and he's like Gussie and he's like, no,

1746
01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:02.640
this is a deputy.

1747
01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:03.119
Sudd and such. Who is this?

1748
01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:05.720
And he's like ah and just hangs up.

1749
01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:09.479
So that's when he's like, you know what, hung up?

1750
01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:10.720
And he's like, oh, must have been a wrong number.

1751
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:13.039
Calls back, Carolyn takes it and she fakes it it's

1752
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:15.039
somebody that she knows, and that's when he's like.

1753
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:17.800
Who gives the rats? Ask how I feel where's Gussie.

1754
01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:20.520
Yeah. So then when Gus goes to answer the phone,

1755
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:22.039
before he can get to it.

1756
01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:23.199
She set the phone out.

1757
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:26.199
Here's the cops talking about stuff. So he hangs up again,

1758
01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:28.720
thinking that the cops are onto them. Yeah.

1759
01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:30.760
So that's when, you know, he goes and plug the

1760
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:32.520
phone back in and he's like, you know, Murray, and

1761
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:34.840
Murray hangs up again and he's like he hung up,

1762
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:37.279
and he's like, well, Carolyn's like, well, he sound distressed,

1763
01:17:37.279 --> 01:17:37.880
and he's like he should be.

1764
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:41.479
He's gonna die a horrible fucking death. And right as he.

1765
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:45.000
Finishes saying that, we hear Connie go Carolyn from the

1766
01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:48.479
bottom of the steps, and that's when Carolyn says, speak

1767
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:49.479
of the devil.

1768
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:55.399
Literally, So this this woman, Oh man, this woman.

1769
01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.159
So the three join Gary and Connie downstairs with their

1770
01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:03.000
family and mother Rose. That's when Phil and his deputy

1771
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:04.600
you know, call out to Gary and that's when they

1772
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:07.640
see them. That's when Gus and Lloyd go down to

1773
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:09.279
meet Mother Rose, and that's when she's like, you know,

1774
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:11.119
I want to go upstairs and like, you know, drop

1775
01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:12.800
my bags, I'll get him. Well, I want to take

1776
01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:14.800
my shoes off. Oh well, you know, go barefoot hell

1777
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:15.640
bohemian Christmas.

1778
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:16.239
I can be with that.

1779
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:19.079
He's just trying so hard to keep her from going upstairs.

1780
01:18:19.119 --> 01:18:20.319
Yeah, and she's like, you know, why do you always

1781
01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:21.800
get weird about around family gathering.

1782
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:23.880
He's like, it's actually Carolyn. You know, she's nervous about

1783
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:24.199
the dinner.

1784
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:25.840
You know, why don't you go into the kitchen, you know,

1785
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:27.079
see if she needs need to help, give her some

1786
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:28.960
give her some input. And she's like, give her some pointers,

1787
01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.880
some advice, all right, walks on, Oh my gosh. She also,

1788
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:35.199
you know, ask who is who is Gus? And he's like,

1789
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:37.079
you know, this is doctor Wong and she's like, you're

1790
01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:39.000
a Wong and he's like, oh, my father was Iris

1791
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:41.000
and your mother wasn't.

1792
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:44.199
Solid joke.

1793
01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:47.119
So she immediately is starting to see through to Gus.

1794
01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:51.399
And that's when we also see that Murray calls back.

1795
01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:53.199
Gus answers the phone and he's like, you know, how

1796
01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:54.760
do I know this his Gus? And he's like, well,

1797
01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:56.600
you know, when I see, I'm gonna rip every single

1798
01:18:56.680 --> 01:18:57.960
hair out of your ball sack.

1799
01:18:58.720 --> 01:18:59.840
He's like, Gus, Gus.

1800
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:02.159
So that's when he tells him, you know, they got

1801
01:19:02.199 --> 01:19:04.560
a boat. But the woman's the next con, and gust

1802
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:06.600
by this point has lost it. He's laughing. He's like,

1803
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:08.439
you know, because the news just keeps coming, and he's like,

1804
01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:09.520
she's a next con and he's like.

1805
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:12.680
You know, what's going on? What else?

1806
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:14.520
He's like, well, you know, the boat needs work, and

1807
01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:16.640
he's like how long is that gonna take? And he's like,

1808
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:18.680
our hour and a half hour, you have an hour?

1809
01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:22.680
One hour? Do you even?

1810
01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:33.920
Movie will be right back, welcome back to do You Even?

1811
01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:34.359
Movie?

1812
01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:41.800
So that's when we see the police have also started

1813
01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:44.039
going house to house searches, which is something Jesse mentioned

1814
01:19:44.039 --> 01:19:45.840
earlier that could happen stopping.

1815
01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.119
Because after roadblocks and curfew, the next step would be

1816
01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:49.279
house to house searching.

1817
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:51.399
Stopping at the Christmas party where George is, Sanna is,

1818
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:53.760
and that's when we see that he's gotten into the champagne.

1819
01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:54.520
He's feeling good.

1820
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.439
He's like, you know, I'd love to toast these officers

1821
01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:57.800
because the cops are like, you know, well, isn't it

1822
01:19:57.840 --> 01:19:58.600
cool to see Santa?

1823
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:00.239
You know, I'm so happy I have to see him.

1824
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:02.600
And that's when he toasts them, and the kid's like,

1825
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:05.319
you know, Santa doesn't drink champagne, Santa drinks milk and cookies.

1826
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:09.079
George lays into this kid and basically says, Santa's lacto.

1827
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:10.920
You have lactose in tolerant, and if he keeps drinking

1828
01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:13.439
milking cookies, you want Santa farting down everybody's chimneys.

1829
01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:17.840
And the King is just scared out. Yeah, he's because

1830
01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:19.720
he's drunk and angry. Drunk it angry.

1831
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:22.560
And then he goes up, pulls his beard down, shoots

1832
01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:23.520
the champagne back.

1833
01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:26.079
Yep, so good legend.

1834
01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:28.560
So at the house we have come to probably one

1835
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:30.840
of the most famous scenes in the movie, because dinner

1836
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:35.039
has commenced, Dear Lord, and dinner is in honor of

1837
01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:37.840
Saint Lucia, who was a woman who gave her dowry

1838
01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:40.560
to the poor people at her village, causing her husband,

1839
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:42.600
who wanted to marry her, or causing her husband to

1840
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:45.000
be enraged and sentence her to be burnt the steak.

1841
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:48.439
But she was so Caroline says, so powerful that the

1842
01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:49.399
flames surrounded her and she.

1843
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:51.199
Did not burn. So then they had to stabber to

1844
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:52.159
death with spears.

1845
01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:55.319
I mean, it's a it's like a fairy tale.

1846
01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:58.159
This Christmas Dinner is nothing that you would expect. They

1847
01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:00.720
also have these crowns on their head that her ivy

1848
01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:02.640
that have freaking candles in them, like.

1849
01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:05.520
Four cardles each on top of their heads.

1850
01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:07.119
And that's when you know, she tells them like why

1851
01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:09.079
they're wearing this, and of course Mother Rose is like,

1852
01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:10.560
you know, I don't care what it is.

1853
01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:12.000
My forehead's blistering.

1854
01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:13.600
I won't be wearing that.

1855
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:15.680
So she takes it off and we just see the

1856
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:16.159
food and that.

1857
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:18.439
Everybody starts getting into it, and Mother Rose begins to

1858
01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:21.000
question Gus about you know, you know what, what school

1859
01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:22.840
did you come from and all this stuff, and that's

1860
01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:25.159
when there's so much dialogue in the scene.

1861
01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:27.960
It's article, it's nuts, but they're and they're all picking

1862
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:30.960
at these weird like cornish game hens that they each

1863
01:21:31.079 --> 01:21:34.159
have one of, and loot fisk and all this stuff

1864
01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:38.680
just around and they're they're basically talking about the therapy

1865
01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:41.199
that they're going through. But at the same time, Gus

1866
01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:44.119
is constantly controlling the conversation.

1867
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:46.279
Controlling the conversation, and that's when Connie even asked him,

1868
01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:48.640
you know, you know what, what's the planet? You know,

1869
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:51.000
where's Jesse and there and Lloyd's like, oh, well, he's

1870
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:52.640
in a friend and she's like on Christmas Eve, and

1871
01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:54.880
Gus is like, well, that was my idea, because when

1872
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:57.960
one is constructing highways of communication between two people, it's

1873
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:00.479
good to clear the road and introduce exit sign. And

1874
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:03.000
Connie goes, that's interesting. I think I heard the same

1875
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:04.560
thing on Oprah a couple of weeks ago.

1876
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.159
Maybe, so I love that too, because that you just

1877
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:11.319
got outed, Gus. Yeah, you watch Oprah.

1878
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:14.560
So mother Rose asked if they've discussed Carolyn's adultery, causing

1879
01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:16.279
Carolyn to get pissed, and she's like, you told your

1880
01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:18.119
mother and Rose is like, you know, well why wouldn't

1881
01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:19.399
he tell me? You know, he was distraught and he

1882
01:22:19.439 --> 01:22:21.399
had to come to his mother. So she goes to

1883
01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:24.159
leave the table, and Gus is like Carolyn, and Connie's like,

1884
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:25.640
you know, is that a rule that she can't leave?

1885
01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:28.399
So that's when Carolyn just grabs a bottle of wine,

1886
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:30.640
pours herself a tall glass, and it's just like, yeah,

1887
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:33.560
doctor Wong, why don't you tell us all about your procedures?

1888
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:35.279
Yeah, oh my gosh, it's so good.

1889
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:37.960
So Gus bullshits for a bit, and that's when mother

1890
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:41.319
Rose tells her of her marriage being chosen because there

1891
01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:43.520
were two families that wanted to join farms. And that's

1892
01:22:43.560 --> 01:22:46.079
when is it Connie, that's like, you know, well what

1893
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:49.800
our Gus is like, what farms? And Carolyn goes pig farms.

1894
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:53.359
So Lloyd asked, you know, for more wine, and Carolyn says, oh,

1895
01:22:53.439 --> 01:22:55.319
we're out. I gotta go to the kitchen and get more.

1896
01:22:55.399 --> 01:22:58.199
So Gus goes to join them, and that's when he

1897
01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:01.159
goes to take off his hat or his crown and

1898
01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:01.800
he burns himself.

1899
01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:03.039
He said, Peter, goddamn dinner.

1900
01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:04.520
Goddamn dinner.

1901
01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:07.199
So Gus joins him in the kitchen and that's when

1902
01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:08.920
she's like, you know, I can't believe you told your mother.

1903
01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:10.359
And he's like, you know, what was I supposed to do?

1904
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:13.840
And you know, that's when Gus is like, your mother's

1905
01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:14.520
a fucking bitch.

1906
01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:16.079
He just lays into it.

1907
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:16.319
Yeah.

1908
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:18.119
Yeah, he's like, you're not supposed to take signs. He's like,

1909
01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:21.680
she's a bitch, Lloyd. So he's like, you know, we

1910
01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:23.359
gotta keep up appearances. You know, we'll just get through

1911
01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:25.920
the dinner and figure it out from there. Meanwhile, George

1912
01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:27.840
is so drunk at the party that he is being

1913
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:29.720
kicked out. The family's on the porch and they're just like,

1914
01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:31.159
you know, I can't believe you, George, like, you know,

1915
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:33.880
go home, and the kid's like, Santa was mean to me.

1916
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:37.880
And he walks out of their front step and then

1917
01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:38.800
takes a piss.

1918
01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:41.760
Yeah, right in front of your yard, you know, Santa.

1919
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:43.640
You know, maybe well Santa won't come back here. Maybe

1920
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:45.960
you can hit your own lousy cooking. Maybe Santa, I'll

1921
01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:48.239
take a flight with the Easter buddy to fucking can

1922
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:50.960
coon and pisses and bumps his dick in the bush

1923
01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:51.640
because he goes out.

1924
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:54.279
I love them when he peas because they have like

1925
01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:57.920
this mass of steam team. Uh you up in front

1926
01:23:57.920 --> 01:23:59.600
of him as he peas in the bush. Yeah.

1927
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:02.600
So back at the house, Carolyn is now sharing the

1928
01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:05.239
adult version story of her and Lloyd's life together, and

1929
01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:06.960
that's when Lloyd is like, you know, honey, why'n't she

1930
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:07.399
eats something?

1931
01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:09.359
And she goes, why don't you eat me?

1932
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:11.720
So she's really drunk.

1933
01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:13.800
She's really drunk at this point. So Connie tells her,

1934
01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:15.239
you know, kids go in the living room. This is

1935
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:17.119
not a conversation for children, and Rose is like, well,

1936
01:24:17.159 --> 01:24:20.000
this is not a conversation for adults either. So Carolyn

1937
01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:22.560
getting drunker, calls Lloyd a phony bastard as he's trying

1938
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:25.079
to get the situation under control. That's when Gus is like,

1939
01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:27.560
you know, Carolyn, shut up, and he tells everybody that

1940
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:29.159
they're going to go in the living room for coffee

1941
01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:31.399
and dessert and then they're gonna open presents. Connie's like, well,

1942
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:33.119
we can't open presents, and he's like why not, and

1943
01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:34.920
he's like, well, we have to wait till Christmas. And

1944
01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:36.680
he's like, well, you know what, tonight, we're gonna open

1945
01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:38.439
presents because we can do it whenever we want.

1946
01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:40.560
Because we're adults. We can do whatever we want to.

1947
01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:44.800
And that's when she's kind of hit John throughout the movie,

1948
01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:46.119
and he's like, you know, if you hit that kid again,

1949
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:48.079
I swear to God, I'm gonna stay that whole BIG's head.

1950
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:49.920
Up your ass. I love that. I love that. Like

1951
01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:53.359
her son is just this little chubby kin. Yeah, and

1952
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:56.920
she keeps his whacking him with her hand, is like,

1953
01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:59.079
you hit the kid one more time, sho that whole

1954
01:24:59.119 --> 01:24:59.800
pick up your ass.

1955
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.279
So that's when mother Rose goes into the living room

1956
01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:04.479
and she's like, where's my porch? It over the fireplace

1957
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:08.159
in the kitchen. Carolyn is like, basically, you know, telling

1958
01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:09.800
us that she doesn't care anymore. And that's when Gus

1959
01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:11.960
has to remind her that Jesse's upstairs and he'll take

1960
01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:13.760
him with him if she keeps actition.

1961
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:15.680
Like this, Yeah, we have to worry about him.

1962
01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:17.880
So that's when we see Carolyn kind of sober up.

1963
01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:20.680
She takes a glass of water, and then we cut

1964
01:25:20.760 --> 01:25:22.760
to the living room where we see they're sitting down

1965
01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:24.960
for dessert. The coffee comes out and she's like, you know,

1966
01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:27.119
what's that and she's like, oh, it's a such and

1967
01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:29.680
such and such and Mother Rose goes, ah, sounds too sweet.

1968
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:31.039
So Carolyn, who.

1969
01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.039
Has this plate literally like two feet above the table,

1970
01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:36.199
it's just like and don't eat it and just drop

1971
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:38.560
drows it splashes whipped cream all over care.

1972
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:40.840
I love it. Theat it.

1973
01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:44.760
So that's when you know, Gus is like, you know,

1974
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:46.279
we'll have about a little music. So they put on

1975
01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:48.920
some nat King Cole. They start passing out presents. We

1976
01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:51.399
see that Mary from Mother Rose has gotten a really

1977
01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:52.359
ugly sweater with a.

1978
01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:54.560
Poodle on it, hideous sweater.

1979
01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:56.600
She got a Connie.

1980
01:25:56.359 --> 01:26:00.000
Slipper socks, which she's like, oh, slipper socks, I've always wanted.

1981
01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:03.000
Them, and she whispers. She's like, what is she gonna do?

1982
01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:05.960
Be buried with it? And Gary's like, that's the idea,

1983
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:07.119
that's the plan.

1984
01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:11.000
So she gets to a present that is from Lloyd,

1985
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.239
and that's when Carolyn does not want to get from Lloyd.

1986
01:26:14.439 --> 01:26:16.600
Gus tries to intervene once more, and Rose speaks up

1987
01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:19.000
and she's like, you know, Carolyn's just a nasty, selfish

1988
01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:21.680
woman who thinks only of herself, ruining my poor boy,

1989
01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:22.439
blah blah blah blah.

1990
01:26:22.479 --> 01:26:24.479
And Carolyn's like, why don't you sleep with them and

1991
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:25.640
just save everybody all.

1992
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.079
That, and something like why don't you sleep with them

1993
01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:30.039
and spare the rest of them, spare the rest of us,

1994
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.439
And even Gus just goes damn.

1995
01:26:34.520 --> 01:26:36.920
And that's when Lloyd uses the moment to announce, you know, Carolyn,

1996
01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:38.560
what does this matter anyway? You've made up your mind,

1997
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:40.239
and everybody's like, you know what's going on. He's like,

1998
01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:42.000
Carolyn and I are ending our marriage. You know, she's

1999
01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:43.880
getting a divorce, she's leaving and that's when Carry goes,

2000
01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:48.399
why one of the funniest moments why, So we see

2001
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:50.479
that Jesse upstairs is getting more and more loose out

2002
01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:52.479
of his binds. He falls over the chair. We cut

2003
01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:55.840
back downstairs as a mother Rose is given a wallet

2004
01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:58.199
from the fam, from Gary's family, and that's when Lloyd's like,

2005
01:26:58.439 --> 01:26:59.880
here this is you know, this is put in the wall.

2006
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:01.640
It's in next payment on the house.

2007
01:27:02.079 --> 01:27:05.039
And she says, oh, well, we'll have to see what

2008
01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:07.000
interest rates are in the new year.

2009
01:27:07.399 --> 01:27:10.279
And that's when Carolyn under her voice says, cock sucker.

2010
01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:16.479
I to have a loan with your family with that

2011
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:19.439
high of an interest rate, yeah, and then it's a

2012
01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:24.920
variable literary, she could renegotiate the rate. There's a level

2013
01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.720
of cruelty I don't even understand.

2014
01:27:28.119 --> 01:27:30.359
So the two get into it once again because Mother

2015
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:32.039
Rose is like, you know, what'd she say? And that's

2016
01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:33.960
when Gary goes to repeat it and Connie.

2017
01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:36.039
El he's about to say it, and she stops him.

2018
01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:38.960
So Carolyn basically lays into her. She's like, you know,

2019
01:27:39.039 --> 01:27:41.039
why do we keep living under the shadow with this one?

2020
01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:41.279
Why?

2021
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:43.399
Because she has money and you've got one kid that

2022
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:45.319
can't say boo to his wife, another one that's afraid

2023
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:47.520
to take any chances. And that's when Lloyd takes the

2024
01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:50.359
opportunity and he's like, you know, or she mentions that,

2025
01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:52.960
you know, you get one bad review and one bad

2026
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.119
magazine and just you say, that's in with the restaurant.

2027
01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:58.520
Lloyd's like, it wasn't one bad review and one bad magazine.

2028
01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:00.560
When the guidebook of New York wreck amends you to

2029
01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:03.359
a group of hindus looking for a night out of fasting,

2030
01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:05.960
what do you do? Change the menu, close the restaurant?

2031
01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:08.960
Yeah, And she disagrees. She thinks you stand up to it.

2032
01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:11.319
Yeah, because that's when he ran home to mom and

2033
01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:14.319
you know, that's that's when she got shut out. Jesse

2034
01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:16.039
got shut out. She can't live like this, you know,

2035
01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:18.439
she'd rather be tattooed working at a bar than living

2036
01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:20.079
with a corpse. And that's when Lloyd approaches her to

2037
01:28:20.079 --> 01:28:21.880
set the record straight, and he's like, you know, wait,

2038
01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:23.560
you know, I want you to remind you of something,

2039
01:28:23.560 --> 01:28:25.760
you know before you go, Like the decision was left

2040
01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:27.760
up to me. I didn't want to take the money.

2041
01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:29.359
You were the one that said we should. And she's like, no,

2042
01:28:29.479 --> 01:28:29.920
that's not true.

2043
01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:30.640
And he's like, yeah, it was.

2044
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:32.199
You know, we were sitting in our apartment on such

2045
01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:34.039
and such street. We were smoking a joint, listen to

2046
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:36.119
al Green, And that's when Cottie's had it.

2047
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:39.399
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2048
01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:40.399
She's like, you know, I've had it.

2049
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:42.159
You know, this is a Christmas of hearing about people

2050
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:44.399
getting stabbed and affairs and weed, and you know, I

2051
01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:46.239
just can't take it anymore. And that's when Gus tells

2052
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:49.359
her to shut up once again, and Lloyd continues that,

2053
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:51.439
you know, Carolyn didn't want to work, you know, they

2054
01:28:51.479 --> 01:28:52.600
were up to their ears in debt.

2055
01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:54.880
And that's when Rose goes, what difference does it make?

2056
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:56.760
You're both getting divorced anyway, And.

2057
01:28:56.840 --> 01:28:58.359
She's so happy when she says it.

2058
01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:02.039
Yeah, And that's when Lloyd says, mother, is it possible

2059
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:04.239
for you to shut the fuck up for five seconds?

2060
01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:07.359
Oh my god, it's so good, it's so satisfying.

2061
01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:10.039
Before this, though, while they were getting into it, Lloyd

2062
01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:11.880
walks over to the Christmas tree with a fire poker.

2063
01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:14.000
Yeah, and he basically you know how you tap a

2064
01:29:14.119 --> 01:29:16.640
glass to get attention. Yeah, Well, he's whacking the trees.

2065
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:18.319
He excuse me, excuse.

2066
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.479
Me, that's flying everywhere. The corpse still has the floor.

2067
01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:22.840
I love that line.

2068
01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:24.479
You know they're up to their ears in dead and

2069
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:26.279
you know that what's the difference. And that's when she's like,

2070
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:27.600
you know, you can't say that to me. And he's like,

2071
01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:28.880
you know what, mom, you know what I'm gonna get

2072
01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:31.359
you for next Christmas? A big wooden cross. That way,

2073
01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:34.720
when you feel so underappreciated for all your sins and tributes,

2074
01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:35.720
you can climb up to it.

2075
01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:36.800
And nail yourself to it.

2076
01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:38.960
Perfect, so perfect.

2077
01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:41.920
So that's when Mother Rose is like, Gary, get my bags,

2078
01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:44.479
I'm leaving. And that's when Connie's like, get him yourself,

2079
01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:46.159
and she's like, who the hell do you think you are?

2080
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:50.840
Slip or sucks medium. So that's when she tries to

2081
01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:53.560
go upstairs. The doorbell rings once again. Mother Rose is

2082
01:29:53.560 --> 01:29:55.239
going up the steps. Gus looks out and sees that

2083
01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:57.840
Cisco is there. Now yeah, He's like, what is the army?

2084
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:00.359
Army? What am I fucking Oswa army? What are my

2085
01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:01.159
fucking Oswald?

2086
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:05.000
So he goes to grab Mother Rose. She starts elbowing him.

2087
01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:06.640
He puts his hand over her mouth, puts a gun

2088
01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:08.560
to her head, and that's when Connie's like, is this

2089
01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:10.960
also part of the therapy? Because the family surrounded the

2090
01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:14.439
stairs at this point, So that's when he says, everybody

2091
01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:16.279
into the den, and that's when we see Jesse is

2092
01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:18.760
now free. Here's that Ciskel is downstairs. He's telling Carolyn

2093
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:21.600
Lloyd about the blackmail in the den. Gus is against

2094
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:23.319
the door with his gun still out, listening, and we

2095
01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:25.840
see that John and Mary have tied up both Gary,

2096
01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:28.680
Connie and Rose, and also Sean is just.

2097
01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:31.079
Wrapping endless rolls a tape around his mom's mouth.

2098
01:30:31.199 --> 01:30:32.760
Yeah, he's like, hey, that's enough, that's enough.

2099
01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:33.920
A whole.

2100
01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:39.000
The kids are so happy to just gag their parents.

2101
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:41.760
Do you even?

2102
01:30:41.880 --> 01:30:52.960
Movie will be right back, welcome back to do you even?

2103
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:53.439
Movie?

2104
01:30:58.319 --> 01:31:00.399
And mother Rose going off on Gus. She's like, you know,

2105
01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:01.880
I knew you were a fraud. You know, I knew

2106
01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:03.359
you were this. You know you'll never get away.

2107
01:31:03.439 --> 01:31:05.319
You have you know, people just like you, you know

2108
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:06.680
want to get away because they don't want to tell

2109
01:31:06.720 --> 01:31:08.039
how small their penises are.

2110
01:31:08.279 --> 01:31:10.319
Yeah. She just rips into him in every way, like

2111
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:13.680
from your shoddy shoes to your ridiculous hair cut.

2112
01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:16.079
Yeah, you'll either be captured or killed one less burden

2113
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:18.399
in society and that's when he's like, you know, lady,

2114
01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:19.439
I'd like to tell you to the back of a

2115
01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:22.239
fucking truck. And she says, you don't have the ball,

2116
01:31:22.720 --> 01:31:24.920
and that's when Lloyd has to intervene because Gus is

2117
01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:26.279
just about to whale on her.

2118
01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:28.439
It's so funny though, because he's holding back. He's like,

2119
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:31.159
don't do it's worth worth I just hate her so much.

2120
01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:34.159
I know, I know, I know, I know. Mary's so good.

2121
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:34.960
Gag your grandma.

2122
01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:37.680
Oh great. There are so many quotable moments in this movie,

2123
01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:39.399
and Mary Gag your Grandma is one of them.

2124
01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:41.319
That's what That's what Gus is like, you know, I

2125
01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:42.960
don't get it, Like I thought mothers were supposed to

2126
01:31:42.960 --> 01:31:45.399
be sweet forgiving, you know, I know loan sharks that

2127
01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:46.239
are more forgiving than you.

2128
01:31:46.399 --> 01:31:46.680
Lady.

2129
01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:49.199
Your husband's not dead. He's hiding.

2130
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:51.319
That line.

2131
01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:53.359
So the three walk off to find Jesse, who is

2132
01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:54.960
in his room getting the money out. This is the

2133
01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:57.119
first time now that Lloyd and Carolyn have seen the money,

2134
01:31:57.159 --> 01:31:58.800
and Lloyd's like, you know, can I ask you one thing?

2135
01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:00.279
And he's like, you know, sure, Dad, and he's like,

2136
01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:01.520
you know, what do you need all that money for?

2137
01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:04.840
Basically starts yelling him again, and Carolyn tries to intervene,

2138
01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:06.399
and that's when Jesse's like, you know, no, I've had it,

2139
01:32:06.479 --> 01:32:09.560
you know, Gus, you know, take He's livid.

2140
01:32:09.960 --> 01:32:11.920
He's knocks some things off the desk. He says, like,

2141
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.840
what is it? What is it? Drugs? Yeah, he's just

2142
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:20.000
not listening. He's doing the the rageful dad stick.

2143
01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:22.119
So he's like, you know, Gus, I'm coming with you,

2144
01:32:22.199 --> 01:32:23.680
and he's like, what am I the circus? I'm not

2145
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:24.359
taking it with me.

2146
01:32:25.720 --> 01:32:29.119
So that's when the doorbell sounds again, and Carolyn stays

2147
01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:31.399
with Jesse and she's like, you know, you know, stay here,

2148
01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:32.920
we'll talk about this. And he's like, you know what,

2149
01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:35.079
you know, whatever happens to me your dad And he's like,

2150
01:32:35.079 --> 01:32:36.359
what are you guys getting a divorce? And she's like,

2151
01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:37.800
you know, we'll talk about it. You know, it's not

2152
01:32:37.880 --> 01:32:40.199
your concern. He's like, actually, it is my concern. Like

2153
01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:42.479
I'm part of the family, you know, I want you

2154
01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:44.680
guys to be happy. And she's like, you know, well,

2155
01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:46.279
you know I want to stay. Your dad wants to

2156
01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:46.800
get divorced.

2157
01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:49.000
What do you want? And this whole time.

2158
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:50.600
Gus is like, you know, Carolyn, come on, and she's like,

2159
01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:52.079
you know, just wait, and she's like, you know, well,

2160
01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:54.359
we'll figure this out. And he's like, what about ciscool.

2161
01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:56.279
She's like, we'll figure something out. We'll give him the

2162
01:32:56.279 --> 01:32:57.880
money back, we'll give him the negatives back, and she

2163
01:32:57.960 --> 01:33:00.560
goes downstairs. So the three of them are going downstairs,

2164
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:04.640
but they're stopped because we hear somebody go hey, and

2165
01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:07.199
we find out that an inebriated George, still in the

2166
01:33:07.239 --> 01:33:09.079
Santa Claus gear, is in the house and you just

2167
01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:11.640
let himself in, just let himself in. He's having another

2168
01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:14.479
drink and he's like, you know, my wife thinks that

2169
01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:16.640
you guys don't like us, even though every year we

2170
01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:20.119
give you a fruit. K Wait a minute, you had a.

2171
01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:22.279
Gun a gun, didn't you. Yeah. It's so great because

2172
01:33:22.279 --> 01:33:23.239
they're about to walk to the door and then we

2173
01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:23.720
see him.

2174
01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:25.039
He just puts the gun behind his back.

2175
01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:26.960
You had a gun. And he's like no, no, me, no,

2176
01:33:27.079 --> 01:33:27.600
and he's like.

2177
01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:30.319
You're guy they're looking for you, the guy they're looking for.

2178
01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:31.720
But then he gets angry.

2179
01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:34.520
He's like, you know, just calm down, and he points

2180
01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:35.920
the gun on me. He's like, you wait, you're gonna

2181
01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:37.800
point a gun on me. You can't beat me up.

2182
01:33:37.960 --> 01:33:40.680
I'm Santa Claus. So he charges him.

2183
01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:43.239
Gus lays him out with one punch, and Gus goes, great,

2184
01:33:43.560 --> 01:33:45.039
I just beat up Santa Claus.

2185
01:33:46.479 --> 01:33:48.159
Quite a rare night for Gus.

2186
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:51.319
So more cops now are arriving at the house. Jesse

2187
01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:53.079
comes downstairs and says, the house is surrounded.

2188
01:33:53.119 --> 01:33:53.920
You know, what are they gonna do?

2189
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:56.079
You know, we could hide him in the mudroom. You know,

2190
01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:58.359
there's hostage all over, like Gus, and they're going back

2191
01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:00.399
and forth. Meanwhile, Lloyd's looking on the front. We see

2192
01:34:00.439 --> 01:34:02.479
him thinking. They go back and forth for a couple

2193
01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:03.960
of minutes, and that's when he's like, you know, Jesse

2194
01:34:04.199 --> 01:34:05.840
taking through the path of the woods that they had

2195
01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:07.680
mentioned earlier about the docks, and he's like, you know,

2196
01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:10.680
path through the woods. And Jesse's surprised. He's like, his

2197
01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:12.880
dad's helping this criminal when he can't believe it. And

2198
01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:14.920
that's and Lloyd even says, you know what, I can't

2199
01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:17.079
keep sending everybody I care about to prison.

2200
01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:21.279
Which is awesome because he's acknowledging that sending Jesse to

2201
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:25.399
the military school. Yeah was was, you know, not the

2202
01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:26.479
perfect way to go.

2203
01:34:26.720 --> 01:34:28.840
So Jesse agrees to it, and they go to runoff,

2204
01:34:28.840 --> 01:34:30.039
and that's when George's.

2205
01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:33.640
Like, ah, well, the other the other thing that's really

2206
01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:37.199
important about that sequence is he's also trusting Jesse to

2207
01:34:37.319 --> 01:34:40.279
come home to come home, yeah yeah, and trusting Gusts

2208
01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:42.520
to an extent as well as which I love. Yeah.

2209
01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:45.319
So that's when we stopped for a second and we

2210
01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:47.079
see the cops are going up to the house. They

2211
01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:49.119
looked through the window and we got a couple of bogies.

2212
01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:51.479
They opened the door and we see that Carolyn and

2213
01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:53.199
Lloyd are now tied up with gags in their mouth.

2214
01:34:53.239 --> 01:34:55.840
They remove the gags and they just start bickering again,

2215
01:34:55.960 --> 01:34:57.760
just like they did before, like, you know, thank.

2216
01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.600
God you're here. You know he took off, blahlah blah blah.

2217
01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:01.399
You know he went this way, No, he was going

2218
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:01.720
that way.

2219
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:03.279
They're just going at it again, and that's when the

2220
01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:05.720
cops are like, excuse us, are there any other hostages

2221
01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:07.439
in the house, And the two of them look at

2222
01:35:07.439 --> 01:35:08.039
each other and go.

2223
01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:13.279
No, no. But it's it's perfect because this is what

2224
01:35:13.520 --> 01:35:15.479
was the problem from the beginning. So now they're they're

2225
01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:20.159
just fighting and bickering in slow draws. Yeah, and to

2226
01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:21.720
keep them from getting any information.

2227
01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:23.520
So that's when we see Jesse and Guss, who is

2228
01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:25.800
now disguised in the Santa outfit or running through the snow,

2229
01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:28.520
going through the woods. Lloyd and Carolyn back are getting untied,

2230
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:30.119
and they're feeding the cops of bullshit story that he

2231
01:35:30.199 --> 01:35:31.239
was going to Yugoslavia.

2232
01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:33.119
There is no Yugoslavia anymore, like all this.

2233
01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:34.960
He said he was going to get a private play

2234
01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:38.119
and she's like, no, he said he was going to Vancouver. Yeah.

2235
01:35:38.119 --> 01:35:40.319
Where they just keep going and going.

2236
01:35:40.159 --> 01:35:42.039
And going, And that's when the cops are like excuse me,

2237
01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:44.239
and they're like, oh, you want to come down and

2238
01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:45.760
give our statements, And all the cops are like oh no.

2239
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.039
No, no, no, no, no no, yeah, they're very Christmas.

2240
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:50.119
You have a good one. Yeah.

2241
01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:52.119
So that's when Gus and Jesse make it to the docks.

2242
01:35:52.319 --> 01:35:54.520
Right as they do, the cop car with Phil and

2243
01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:56.840
his his other cadet come through and they're like, you know, George,

2244
01:35:56.880 --> 01:36:01.359
it's after curfew, go home home, George home. So Jesse

2245
01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:03.319
wishes Gus well and he's like, you know, I think

2246
01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:05.079
things are gonna be different with mom and dad now.

2247
01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:08.960
If or not, I'll blackmail him, see you, Gus, And

2248
01:36:09.079 --> 01:36:11.680
that's when he goes to walk away, and Gus goes, see.

2249
01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:14.640
A kid, I'm never having children, never having children.

2250
01:36:14.960 --> 01:36:16.840
So back at the house, Carolyn and Lloyd now at

2251
01:36:16.840 --> 01:36:18.319
the bottom of the steps and join a glass of

2252
01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:20.039
wine and he's like, you know, well, what are we

2253
01:36:20.079 --> 01:36:22.279
gonna do? And she's like, you know, should we should

2254
01:36:22.279 --> 01:36:23.720
we on tire him? No, we'll wait till the morning.

2255
01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:26.319
You know, it'll be more festive about way, and she goes, no,

2256
01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:28.600
I was actually talking about us, and that's when Lloyd

2257
01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:30.880
gives it a second, goes in for a kiss. They're

2258
01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:32.840
getting ready to kiss, and that's when John comes out

2259
01:36:32.840 --> 01:36:35.399
and he goes, I hate to interrupt, but Grandma is

2260
01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:36.760
eating through her gag.

2261
01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:40.800
Such a frigging quotable movie.

2262
01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:43.199
So the movie ends as we see Murray and Gus

2263
01:36:43.399 --> 01:36:45.880
and the woman on the boat sailing away, and that's

2264
01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:47.399
when Gus is like, you know, you're a real piece

2265
01:36:47.399 --> 01:36:47.640
of work.

2266
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:49.159
I'll say that, get out of the way. And that's

2267
01:36:49.199 --> 01:36:49.840
when Murray is.

2268
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:50.319
Like, you know, Gus.

2269
01:36:50.359 --> 01:36:53.039
When we get to open presents, and that's when Gus

2270
01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:55.319
goes into a tyridy, he goes press presence. I'll tell

2271
01:36:55.319 --> 01:36:57.520
you about presence. I'll tell you what I'll save you

2272
01:36:57.600 --> 01:36:59.720
the trouble. Basically, he's gonna put him into a cannon.

2273
01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:02.439
He's gonna shoot him out, he's gonna go collect the ashes.

2274
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:04.600
He's gonna put him on his fireplace, go back to

2275
01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:06.960
his house and watch the Charlievin chrisispetial while he drinks

2276
01:37:07.079 --> 01:37:07.920
a gallon of whiskey.

2277
01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:11.239
Yeah, he's like, that's not gonna do the whole time rate.

2278
01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:14.479
And that's when Murray's like, you know, Gus, what's that smell?

2279
01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:19.399
Shut up? And that, my friends, is nineteen ninety Four's the.

2280
01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:25.680
Ref cannot say enough positive things about this movie. Absolutely,

2281
01:37:25.920 --> 01:37:28.479
I just love it. Every time I watch it, I

2282
01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:33.640
love it more. It's funny, it's heartwarming, it's comforting. Yeah,

2283
01:37:34.039 --> 01:37:37.439
it's everything I want from a movie.

2284
01:37:37.560 --> 01:37:39.279
So would you like to know some fun things about

2285
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:42.880
the film? Maybe fun ish? So the what do you

2286
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:45.079
think the budget was? You probably just saw it?

2287
01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:47.079
Actually did I saw it? One? I'm not going to guest.

2288
01:37:47.119 --> 01:37:49.600
So estimated at twelve million dollars is the budget. It

2289
01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:52.560
comes out March thirteenth, nineteen ninety four.

2290
01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:54.039
That makes fucking sense.

2291
01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:55.039
Yeah uh.

2292
01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:59.000
It brings in opening weekend three million dollars. Overall grosses

2293
01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:00.600
in US and Canada about eleven million.

2294
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:02.000
Yeah, flop, benflopped.

2295
01:38:02.039 --> 01:38:04.239
Yeah. It was shot in Ontario, Canada, during the fall

2296
01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:05.199
of nineteen ninety three.

2297
01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:06.479
I called it You did.

2298
01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:08.279
The film's premise came from.

2299
01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:10.960
Former copywriter Mary Weesese after a fight with her husband,

2300
01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:14.039
the producer Jeff Weiss. She later admitted the fight prompted

2301
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:16.359
an interesting scenario in her mind. When two people in

2302
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:18.640
the middle of argument can't agree on anything, wouldn't it

2303
01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:20.359
be interesting thing if a third party could come in

2304
01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:23.199
and mediate. Even with the idea of a marriage counselor,

2305
01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:25.199
Weese came up with the notion of a street smart

2306
01:38:25.199 --> 01:38:28.239
criminal who unwillingly becomes a bickering couple's voice of reason.

2307
01:38:28.760 --> 01:38:31.079
While it was Weese's first screenplay, her Ace in the

2308
01:38:31.119 --> 01:38:33.319
Hole happened to be a relative who also was an

2309
01:38:33.359 --> 01:38:36.800
OSCAR nominated screenwriter, her brother in law, Richard log Andres,

2310
01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:39.560
who nabbed the nominate a nomination few years earlier for

2311
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:43.279
The Fisher King. Okay, when the first two seconds, well,

2312
01:38:43.359 --> 01:38:46.000
Richard started as just a consultant, offering notes and ideas

2313
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:48.079
to his sister in law. When the first draft was

2314
01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:50.600
in good shape, they took it the Touchstone Pictures, Disney's

2315
01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:54.079
live action division. Their pitch was so effective the studio

2316
01:38:54.159 --> 01:38:56.560
approved the project within twenty minutes, but with one big

2317
01:38:56.640 --> 01:38:59.359
caveat of which the studio had any serious notes on

2318
01:38:59.359 --> 01:38:59.680
the script.

2319
01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:01.319
It would be up to Richard to revise it.

2320
01:39:01.640 --> 01:39:02.960
Okay, I mean that makes sense.

2321
01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:05.039
So, according to Richard, he worked on the screenplay for

2322
01:39:05.079 --> 01:39:08.119
a year, with Disney's notes being described as unending. He

2323
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:10.199
finished the first draft and washed his hands of it,

2324
01:39:10.319 --> 01:39:12.239
even telling the execs he was done working on it.

2325
01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:15.399
Dennis Leary had signed a three picture deal with Disney,

2326
01:39:15.479 --> 01:39:19.600
and his collaborator Ted Lemmy brought the screenplay to Leary.

2327
01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:22.000
Leary and Lemmy liked it so much they brought Richard

2328
01:39:22.079 --> 01:39:24.479
back to revise the script, with who continued working on

2329
01:39:24.520 --> 01:39:28.000
the script throughout the production, which due to filming due

2330
01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:29.680
to the film being mostly shot in sequence.

2331
01:39:30.239 --> 01:39:31.560
Okay, I mean that makes sense.

2332
01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:35.079
The ref was JK. Simmons' film debut, as he made

2333
01:39:35.079 --> 01:39:37.159
a name for himself on the Broadway stage before this.

2334
01:39:37.359 --> 01:39:39.920
Of course, his character Ciskell was a dig at film

2335
01:39:39.960 --> 01:39:42.920
critic Gene Siskell, who'd given the Fisher Kings screenplay a

2336
01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:46.119
big thumbs down back in nineteen ninety one. Nice Gene

2337
01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:48.239
Siskell would go on to state it felt that it

2338
01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:50.760
was strange form of revenge and wondered if his name

2339
01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:53.319
being said over and over again wasn't ultimately a distraction

2340
01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:56.640
for audiences, adding he wished someone like Jack Nicholson would

2341
01:39:56.640 --> 01:39:59.079
have played him in the role. Ciskell did not mention

2342
01:39:59.199 --> 01:40:01.640
the personal poke during the television show when they reviewed

2343
01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:01.960
the movie.

2344
01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:03.880
Well that's nice, I guess. Yeah.

2345
01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:06.560
The character of Gus's facial hair in the movie was

2346
01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:09.560
supposedly controversial. The reason set a source on set of

2347
01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:13.239
the film than Disney chief Jeffrey Katzenberg allegedly hated facial hair,

2348
01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:15.880
just any facial hair rubbed him the wrong way. If

2349
01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:18.199
that is indeed true, Leary and Demi got away with

2350
01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:21.439
one because Gus's particular goatee ends up being rather memorable.

2351
01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:24.000
Yeah, well, I mean it gives Leary like a It

2352
01:40:24.119 --> 01:40:28.159
makes him not just Dennis Leary, because Dennis Leary generally

2353
01:40:28.279 --> 01:40:29.000
was clean shaven.

2354
01:40:31.079 --> 01:40:41.800
Do you even movie will be right back? Welcome back

2355
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:43.560
to Do You Even Movie.

2356
01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:50.960
In the original ending, Gus allows himself to be caught

2357
01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:53.079
by the police in order to send a message to Jesse,

2358
01:40:53.239 --> 01:40:55.359
to whom he's taken a liking to, the message being

2359
01:40:55.479 --> 01:40:57.560
this is the life you're headed towards if you don't change.

2360
01:40:57.920 --> 01:41:00.880
Test audiences hated that ending and wanted to see Gus escape,

2361
01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:02.840
so the studio quickly shot the ending we see in

2362
01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:04.960
the film, where Gus go's free and everyone lives happily

2363
01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:08.520
ever after. Sometime later, Demian Leary would express disappointment that

2364
01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:11.000
they went with the happier ending, having preferred the original ending.

2365
01:41:11.079 --> 01:41:14.119
More. I don't know how I'd feel about that original ending.

2366
01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:15.840
I would like to see it. It's never been released

2367
01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:16.079
at all.

2368
01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:17.319
I don't think we're ever going to see that.

2369
01:41:17.479 --> 01:41:18.000
That probably not.

2370
01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:20.920
Disney strangely decided not to save the ref for a

2371
01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:23.439
holiday season release, instead opening it in the middle of

2372
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March nineteen ninety four. The film was released only seven

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01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:29.600
hundred theaters instead of a genuine wide release. During its

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01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:32.119
box office run, the largest theater count was eight hundred

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01:41:32.159 --> 01:41:34.600
and sixty one, making a little over eleven million dollars.

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01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:37.199
It later found a wider audience through home video and

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01:41:37.279 --> 01:41:40.159
cable TV airings, becoming a cult movie and an alternative

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01:41:40.199 --> 01:41:41.600
to the traditional Christmas.

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01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:42.520
Movie during the holiday season.

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01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:43.720
That checks out to me.

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01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:46.800
Dennis Leary's line Lady, your husband ain't dead, he's hiding

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01:41:46.920 --> 01:41:48.680
is a direct quote of a line from the classic

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01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:52.920
Abad and Costello routine Sasquina Hat Company, that was immortalized

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01:41:52.920 --> 01:41:54.760
in the film Society in nineteen forty four.

2385
01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:56.800
Oh okay.

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01:41:57.600 --> 01:41:59.960
When released in the United Kingdom, the ref was retitled

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01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:01.279
Hostile Hostages.

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01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:03.439
That's a good title too, It works.

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01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:05.880
The film's name Chessure is French for hunter.

2390
01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:08.880
Oh, although they huguenot.

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01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:12.119
Although they come close a couple of times, Carolyn Lloyd

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01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:13.399
never kissed throughout the movie.

2393
01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:14.640
Yeah, that's yeah.

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01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:17.399
When Dennis Leary shoots the smoke detector to stop it

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01:42:17.399 --> 01:42:19.119
from beeping, it is the only time his gun is

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01:42:19.159 --> 01:42:20.520
fired in the entire film.

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01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:22.720
Which makes sense, and it'd be weird if he killed

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01:42:22.760 --> 01:42:23.520
the Santa. Yeah.

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01:42:24.199 --> 01:42:26.800
On the film's movie poster and video cover, Dennis Leary's

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01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:29.439
legs are the exact same length, even though one is bent.

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01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:34.720
Hey wait a second.

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01:42:35.319 --> 01:42:38.000
The ref appeared on Entertainment Weekly's list of fifty Best

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01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:40.840
Movies You've Never Seen. In June July sixteenth of twenty

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01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:43.560
twelve issue, and in the year two thousand, the American

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01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:45.920
Film Institute included The Ref in the list of five

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01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.199
hundred movies nominated for the Top one hundred Funniest American Films.

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01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:51.239
I think that's earned, I really do.

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01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:53.960
So what are your final thoughts on nineteen ninety fours

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01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:54.319
The Ref?

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01:42:54.479 --> 01:42:57.079
Oh, it's a by it. Yeah, it's a classic. Especially

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01:42:57.119 --> 01:42:59.960
it's aged so well now I'm confident that it belonged

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01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:02.399
in your movie collection. It just does. Yeah.

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01:43:02.680 --> 01:43:04.039
No, it's a buy it for me as well.

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01:43:04.199 --> 01:43:06.239
This is one of those movies that if you haven't seen,

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01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:08.079
you are doing your you haven't seen, you're doing yourself

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01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:08.640
a disservice.

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01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:09.560
It's so much fun.

2418
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:13.239
It's one that you will come back to for the

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01:43:13.319 --> 01:43:15.479
one liners, for the jokes that you love so much.

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01:43:16.239 --> 01:43:18.680
And also it's a great performance by Leary that I

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01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:21.319
feel like he doesn't get to do a lot of

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01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:23.199
really good dramatic stuff that sticks for more. So, like

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01:43:23.279 --> 01:43:24.760
Rescue Me is like one of the biggest that I

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01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:25.159
can think.

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01:43:25.119 --> 01:43:26.479
Wow, that's a pretty big one. But I know what

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01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:26.800
you mean.

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01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:29.079
Yeah, so yeah, it's a buy it for me, as

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01:43:29.119 --> 01:43:30.319
you know, we always like it in the show. With

2429
01:43:30.359 --> 01:43:31.520
a couple of recommendations.

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01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:32.399
My two this week.

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01:43:32.479 --> 01:43:34.680
Starting off with the first one is nineteen ninety four

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01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:37.039
is Trapped in Paradise, which is currently on twov. The

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01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:40.439
synopsis says, residents of a friendly Pennsylvania town foile, three

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01:43:40.520 --> 01:43:42.520
brothers plan to rob a bank on Christmas Eve, and

2435
01:43:42.600 --> 01:43:44.840
the three brothers happened to be Nicholas Cage, Dana Carvey,

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01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:45.680
and John Lovetts.

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01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:48.079
It's a pretty damn fun one, and it's a bit

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01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:48.800
of a lost gem.

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01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:50.119
It is the lost gem absolutely.

2440
01:43:50.439 --> 01:43:52.840
Second to that is Mixed Nuts from nineteen ninety four,

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01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:55.720
currently available on peacock. The events focused around a crisis

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01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:58.720
hotline business on one crazy night during the Christmas holidays.

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01:43:59.319 --> 01:44:03.760
Steve Martin, Live Schreiber, My god, I'm planking on her name,

2444
01:44:05.760 --> 01:44:07.920
Madeline Cohn, A bunch of people in this one, even

2445
01:44:07.960 --> 01:44:08.520
Garry Shandling.

2446
01:44:08.640 --> 01:44:12.800
That's one that's really kind of unknown. Yeah, and great,

2447
01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:16.000
really fun one, really really really great flick.

2448
01:44:16.159 --> 01:44:17.239
What is your recommendation?

2449
01:44:17.319 --> 01:44:18.399
None of your fucking business?

2450
01:44:18.439 --> 01:44:19.000
Oh is that so?

2451
01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:21.000
Well? No? Okay, I just I don't want you to

2452
01:44:21.079 --> 01:44:24.760
open it. Until Christmas Fair. No, I'm gonna go with

2453
01:44:24.880 --> 01:44:28.359
two thousand and threes. Bad Santa makes sense because it's

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01:44:28.840 --> 01:44:30.920
a criminal who turns out to be not such a

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01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:34.079
bad guy. It's very Christmas focused. I would say this

2456
01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:35.560
has to be a ten out of ten on the

2457
01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:38.720
Christmas scale, absolutely simply because it's about a Santa Claus.

2458
01:44:38.920 --> 01:44:43.359
It's about Christmas, about learning to not be a piece

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01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:46.479
of shit and to love and to care. And the

2460
01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:49.880
synopsis IMDb gives is a miserable con man and his

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01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:52.479
partner poses Santa and his little helper to rob department

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01:44:52.520 --> 01:44:54.840
stores on Christmas Eve, but they run into problems when

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01:44:54.840 --> 01:44:57.039
the conman be friends a troubled kid. That's actually a

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01:44:57.039 --> 01:45:00.439
solid one. It's available right now on Paramount Plus to watch,

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01:45:01.119 --> 01:45:04.560
and it's it's a perfect Christmas movie, it really is.

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01:45:04.840 --> 01:45:06.680
And I would recommend the sequel as well if you

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01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:07.279
like the first one.

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01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:10.680
Sequels pretty much, but the first one is just it's excelsior.

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01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:14.159
It's so good. It's so quotable. Not quite as quotable

2470
01:45:14.199 --> 01:45:17.640
as the ref but up there the ref is painfully quotable,

2471
01:45:18.359 --> 01:45:21.079
painfully quotable. Yeah, so, but yeah, I would say Bad

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01:45:21.159 --> 01:45:22.880
Santa from two thousand and three. If you haven't seen it,

2473
01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:24.600
or if you haven't seen it in a while, put

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01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:26.319
it on. You'll be you'll be glad you did.

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01:45:26.520 --> 01:45:28.720
Or find Batter Santa the unrated version.

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01:45:28.920 --> 01:45:29.880
Well, I mean, duh.

2477
01:45:31.319 --> 01:45:33.000
So do we have any emails this week? By chance?

2478
01:45:33.079 --> 01:45:37.079
Who cares? Now, I'll check right now. All right, let's see.

2479
01:45:37.319 --> 01:45:38.560
We do have one that I know of?

2480
01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:42.880
Getting an al Tarzan over there on me.

2481
01:45:43.520 --> 01:45:46.520
You know what, I'm amazed. I only coughed like eighty times.

2482
01:45:47.319 --> 01:45:50.039
This is from our good buddy trnk Oh awesome. The

2483
01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:55.039
subject is zombies. Okay, still digging the show thanks to you, guys.

2484
01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:57.800
I love zombie movies and saw a preview for Pride,

2485
01:45:57.840 --> 01:46:01.800
Prejudice and Zombies. Do you, gentlemen think it's worth a watch?

2486
01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:04.960
No, trek, we saw it in theater.

2487
01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:05.960
We were not a fan.

2488
01:46:06.239 --> 01:46:07.239
Did we see an opening night?

2489
01:46:07.960 --> 01:46:08.159
Yeah?

2490
01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:08.960
I think so, I think so.

2491
01:46:09.239 --> 01:46:09.439
Yeah.

2492
01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:11.039
We we did not love that one.

2493
01:46:11.359 --> 01:46:14.680
It's it's a lot of pride and prejudice and some zombies.

2494
01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:19.119
Yeah, it was surprisingly lacking in the zombie space for me.

2495
01:46:20.840 --> 01:46:23.359
I would say, if you're looking for a zombie movie

2496
01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:25.399
that's on the funnier side.

2497
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:28.359
Lisa Frankenstein is pretty good.

2498
01:46:28.479 --> 01:46:32.840
That was pretty fun. I liked Lisa Frankenstein. If you

2499
01:46:32.920 --> 01:46:36.039
haven't seen like Trained a Busan. I know subtitles can

2500
01:46:36.079 --> 01:46:37.319
be an issue for some people, but.

2501
01:46:37.359 --> 01:46:39.000
It's so worth it you will cry.

2502
01:46:39.239 --> 01:46:39.439
Yeah.

2503
01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:42.880
Yeah, that's a really great one if.

2504
01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:45.039
You're looking for the humorous route, like Pride Prejudice. I

2505
01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:46.720
know you're not a fan, but I really like Fido

2506
01:46:46.840 --> 01:46:47.399
from Yeah.

2507
01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:49.199
I should revisit FIGHTO. But I don't like it when

2508
01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:51.119
I first saw it, but a lot of people love

2509
01:46:51.159 --> 01:46:55.720
fight Oh yeah, uh, those are probably better zombie recommendations. Yeah,

2510
01:46:56.800 --> 01:46:59.399
if you want, you know, silly fun, if you you know,

2511
01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:03.399
it's worth revisiting. Return a Living Dead two absolutely always

2512
01:47:03.439 --> 01:47:04.520
worth a revisit.

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01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:06.319
The first three Return Living Dead one.

2514
01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:08.960
I meant two because of how silly is yea, yeah,

2515
01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:11.199
I mean one is a little funny, two is goofy,

2516
01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:15.199
and then three so but they're all great. But yeah,

2517
01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:17.600
I would say, I mean, if you watch it, let

2518
01:47:17.720 --> 01:47:19.680
us know what you think. Maybe we're wrong, maybe we

2519
01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:21.640
need to give it another chance. But that was one

2520
01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:23.279
of the few times we both walked out of theater

2521
01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:23.680
and just went.

2522
01:47:24.119 --> 01:47:24.960
We were kind of amped too.

2523
01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:27.319
I mean, we were stuck about it, not gonna lie

2524
01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:29.960
so but that is it for our emails. If you

2525
01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:32.840
guys want to email us, yes, it's very easy. Just

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01:47:39.640 --> 01:47:42.199
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2530
01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:47.239
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Leave a comment with what you think of the film

2532
01:47:49.319 --> 01:47:51.079
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2533
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2537
01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:05.479
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2538
01:48:05.520 --> 01:48:09.720
help very much, especially during this the season of giving.

2539
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:10.079
Yes.

2540
01:48:10.439 --> 01:48:13.760
Yeah, White cut me off, too bad, fucker. So but

2541
01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:15.079
that's that's all I got.

2542
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:17.079
Would you like to know what we're talking about next

2543
01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:18.920
week as the holiday movie lineup continues?

2544
01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:23.159
I mean, just I hope it will all all say yes?

2545
01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:26.640
Is I hope it's holly, jolly, bright and light? Well,

2546
01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:30.199
because we can use something lighthearted, right with with the

2547
01:48:30.520 --> 01:48:33.960
with the darkness of winter and the sadness of the

2548
01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:36.520
human condition, give me something positive.

2549
01:48:36.680 --> 01:48:39.520
So we're gonna go with a dark Christmas film from

2550
01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:42.600
two thousand and five, one that I got to show

2551
01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:45.319
you even though technically you were the one that bought it,

2552
01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:47.960
but I'd seen it before. Yeah, the Ice Harvest from

2553
01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:51.159
two thousand and five. This movie's so good, so good,

2554
01:48:51.359 --> 01:48:53.720
starring John Cusack, Billy Bob Thornton.

2555
01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:56.199
You also have Randy.

2556
01:48:58.079 --> 01:49:01.000
Randy Quaid is at optimal levels.

2557
01:49:01.119 --> 01:49:07.399
Yeah, quad and oh god, I always forgot Oliver plat Platt. Yeah,

2558
01:49:07.399 --> 01:49:08.720
all the Platin. This is so good.

2559
01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:11.840
Currently available on Prime and Voodoo to rent. It is

2560
01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:14.319
not streaming anywhere unfortunately for free.

2561
01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:19.720
This one is absolutely worth renting Ice Harvest. I mean,

2562
01:49:19.760 --> 01:49:23.880
if you want a just pulse pounding Christmas thriller, MEO

2563
01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:26.720
noir kind of thing, yeah, I mean you're not gonna

2564
01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:29.920
get that very often. No, this one is absolutely worth it.

2565
01:49:30.119 --> 01:49:32.119
Yeah, this is This is a good one, and if

2566
01:49:32.159 --> 01:49:34.439
you have not seen it, I would absolutely recommend checking

2567
01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:36.159
it out before we talk about it because the spoilers

2568
01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:37.000
in it are pretty strong.

2569
01:49:37.119 --> 01:49:40.640
Well, I mean that movie, trust me. Yeah. So with

2570
01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:43.079
all of that said, I guess it's time to wrap up.

2571
01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:46.840
And I would say so wrap up because Christmas is

2572
01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:48.960
full of hip hop music. Yeah so uh.

2573
01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:50.800
So.

2574
01:49:51.159 --> 01:49:54.159
Appreciate you guys checking us out and make sure you're subscribed.

2575
01:49:54.199 --> 01:49:59.079
We'll see you guys next Tuesday. You do smell like captains?

2576
01:49:59.239 --> 01:50:00.079
Oh well th