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Aug. 13, 2024

The Player (1992) - A Satirical Masterpiece of Hollywood

The Player (1992) - A Satirical Masterpiece of Hollywood

Henrique and David enter the Hollywood studio system for The Player (1992), Robert Altman’s darkly comic adaptation of Michael Tolkin’s novel. Tim Robbins stars as Griffin Mill, an executive who rejects screenplays for a living and begins receiving threatening postcards from an angry writer. When Griffin confronts the wrong suspect, David Kahane, their encounter ends in murder—and the executive tries to protect his career while detectives, blackmail and a possible replacement close in.
The hosts examine Altman’s celebrated opening tracking shot, an eight-minute tour of overlapping pitches, office politics and movie-industry gossip that establishes the film’s restless, voyeuristic style. Fred Ward discusses long takes inside the long take, while Griffin’s colleagues reduce stories to marketable stars and familiar comparisons. A remarkable procession of cameos—including Cher, Burt Reynolds, Jeff Goldblum, Jack Lemmon and many more—turns the studio lot into a densely populated time capsule of early-1990s Hollywood.
Griffin’s increasingly desperate choices connect Tim Robbins’ tightly controlled performance to Cynthia Stevenson’s principled story editor Bonnie Sherow, Greta Scacchi’s enigmatic June Gudmundsdottir and Whoopi Goldberg’s skeptical detective Susan Avery. Henrique and David follow the mistaken-identity murder, Griffin’s romance with the victim’s girlfriend and the deliberately commercial Bruce Willis and Julia Roberts finale. They appreciate how the story’s promised suspense, sex, violence and happy ending ultimately become the very formula it mocks.
Production discussion explores Altman’s collaborative approach, the largely improvised background conversations and the elaborate coordination required to make the opening shot feel spontaneous. The hosts also explain how The Player helped restore Altman’s standing in Hollywood and paved the way for Short Cuts. Martin Mull’s silent appearance provides the connection to their tribute series, while the celebrity-packed ensemble and studio maneuvering reinforce David’s original argument that 1992 was an exceptional year for cinema.
Both hosts recommend The Player for movie lovers, especially viewers interested in Robert Altman, screenwriting, studio satire and 1990s filmmaking. Henrique finds the pacing purposeful but wants a stronger payoff; David is more taken with Robbins’ volatility and the story’s playful construction. Their companion recommendations include Adaptation, Bowfinger and Swimming with Sharks, films that continue the conversation about writers, producers and the machinery that turns art into product.
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The critics are calling The Player a masterpiece.

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Be funny, Yeah, it'll be funny, smart.

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You're gonna have to have a little sexisms. Hen sure

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if we'll get all sophisticated.

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Have you seen someone else?

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Two hardy group and several hundred of my best friends.

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Brilliant, It's out of Africa.

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It's pretty Woman, a delectable high comedy fascinata. We do

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not arrestaurant ours s LA four stars. Yes, Robert Altman's

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The Player ready.

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Ar in a world where podcasts reign supreme. Two friends

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dare to ask Do You Even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie officionado David Denyer.

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Spoiler alert, Hey my friends, and welcome back to Do

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You Even?

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Movie? I'm your host Enrique Kuto here with double D

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David Denoyer. Greetings, who is now art movie? David? This week?

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Is that a fact?

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Well, you picked the film and it's a bit of

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an art film.

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It's a bit of an art film.

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I would not call it an entire art film now,

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but I would call it it has art film tendency,

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which I think most of Robert Oltman's output has that.

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Even mash Yeah, which is a raunchy comedy, has kind

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of artsy film tendencies to it, like the way it's shot.

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His voyeuristic thing. I struggle with if I love it

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or it annoys me.

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It was it was interesting to watch you throughout this

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movie because this, like as you pointed out, the pacing

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in this is not exactly like lightning fast, but it's purposeful.

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Ya, So it's not like it's slow because they don't

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know what they're doing. And that's not the problem. Yeah,

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I mean you're the problem.

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I'm always the problem.

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But yeah, So this week we are talking about nineteen

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ninety two's the.

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Player, That's when I was born.

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Which have you ever heard my theory that ninety two

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for movies ever? You got Terminator two, you got Eddie Presley,

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two of my all time favorites, favor same year and

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they couldn't be more different in every Waysolutely, I used

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to sit up at night on two B when I

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was really really bored during the pandemic. Yeah, and I

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put in nineteen ninety two, and about half of your

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results will be from the year at least back when

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I searched it back then. I don't know if it

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works as well now, but so I would watch I

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would just like get my fill of like nineteen ninety two,

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cable movies, nineteen ninety two, this nineteen ninety two. That

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there was a period of time where I was watching

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only movies for ninety two every night before I went

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to sleep, Remember that period, And so that was like

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very fun. But yeah, so ninety two. I have a

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soft spot for nineteen ninety two, at least the home

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video era of ninety two, because I was watching Terminator

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two again and again and again and again, and I

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just realized I was trying to for the lighting set

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up of the office or of the studio round. I

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was trying to come up with something that could vaguely

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fit this, and now I'm looking at it, it's just Halloween.

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God damn it. This is the perfect light setup for

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when Halloween comes. But why is it here? Everybody? If

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you're listening to this out loud, sorry, Alexa, back lights, daylight,

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just want to I'm just gonna make it look more

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because we're not talking about Monster Me. No, we're not

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talking about I know what you did last summer.

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Were essentially talking about all movies. The way the film

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goes in a sense.

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our somehow, yes say it. I was gonna say our

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Martin Mole Appreciation I was not going to disgusting.

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You're not find gross.

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It sounds like something you would find like that you

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would scrape off of your foot.

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Are you going to bring up something every time that

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we say m augusts now too late?

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you like if your foot was so infected you have

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to cut it off with a knife. Is not the

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foot the infection You have to sit there with a

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potato peeler just getting that mull gust off you.

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But you can also make it, make it a fun time.

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And you know, we could do the Old West solution.

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an animal and then the.

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Any an animal and a body part is an Old

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West sickness. I got rabbit foot, huh ah, he he

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got tortoise toe, tortoise you got, he got, he got

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shrew knows they all sound like actual ailments from back then. No,

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but uh, but so as this is your pick for

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Martin Mole Appreciation Month, because we're appreciating the late great

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He doesn't even speak. He does not speak in this movie.

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That this full disclosure at the top of the episode.

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This was a pick because I solely wanted to talk

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about this movie because I just saw this movie for

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the first time this year, and I remembered that Martin

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Maull was in it. Plus it appeared on his filmography

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on letter.

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So you thought, why not dance on Mal's grave and

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use his death as an excuse?

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Is he not in the movie?

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Not really? I mean, he doesn't say a word.

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Is it in this movie?

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There are a lot of celebrities in this movie that

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are are not saying anything.

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We'll get into it, but I.

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Was shocked when Male popped up because I actually made

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a joke to you. I was like, watch him just

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be an extra and You're like, no, he is, and

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I was like, we said.

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This last week.

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Male's filmography is a bit of slim pickings, and I

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unfortunately have not seen FM, which is it has gotten

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good reviews on letterbox and IMDb, so I'm curious about it.

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My bodyguards a possibility that we talked about Missus Dufire's possibility,

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like his his filmography is so limited that for for

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for film, we we kind of have to go with

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what we know.

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I mean, at this point we could have just went

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would Dance with Death? At least he said something, and

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dance with Death? I actually really like dance with death.

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Death is still an option. We'll see, Uh.

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I mean I I try to pick movies that are

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vaguely accessible.

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Yea, and hey, this is accessible on two services. Mind

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you though to pay services of course.

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Uh. If you want to watch yourself some the player,

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you can catch it on Max or the Criterion channel.

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So uh yeah. So if you're if you're like, well,

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I don't want Max. I want everybody to know I'm

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better than you the Criteria period.

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Which shout out to our buddy Matt van Deist who

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lets me use his That is a crime, is it?

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That's against the terms of use. Well, you shouldn't have

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said his full name. That was a good luck with that.

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You you learn how to edit the podcast, you can

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bleep it out. I was not gonna like sell out

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a buddy for sharing that.

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Given yes, I did sell him out.

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You just sold him out hardcore. That's okay, It's okay,

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he doesn't anyway, Well, but Criterion does Criterion totally does

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they do so. But before we get to all that

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really quick, we just got back from the theater and

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we were seeing M Night Shamalan's newest film, Trap.

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that the movie did come out.

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Yeah, we saw it opening night, well, preview night, and uh,

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this is the thriller with Josh Hartnett about a pop

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concert that is being secretly turned into a police sting.

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and he's trying to escape because they figured out he

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would be there, but they didn't know who he is.

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They had like five descriptions they were looking at. Basically,

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they end up checking every man, every man, every adult

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man that's there. So we went and saw it opening night,

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preview night, and I thought, unlike David, No, no, I'm

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just being straight up because it's important to be like

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unlike you. I really loved that. Oh yeah, yeah, I

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thought it was. It was a solid thriller. Huh. It

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returned to form for M Night Shyamalan. I didn't dislike

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Knock Out the Cabin.

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It was. This is terrible for me to say it

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wasn't it?

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Is it wasn't forgettable, but it's not high on my

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list at all.

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Really, I liked it.

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It was tense as hell. Oh, it was extremely tense,

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and I liked Old as well.

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Old as Old is one that I really really like.

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It's gotten way better on a couple of watches with

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me too. It's it is a genuinely terrifying movie for

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me to be honest afraid of getting old. It's just

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the way that the way that movie goes with its story,

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its characters, and everything in between of a day and

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what it can do to somebody's life terrifying. Yes, I'm

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afraid of getting old. There happy thirty one? Huh thirty

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I think better is when you're older. So but so

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Trap is out. I loved it. I think it's one

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of my favorite films I've seen in the theater this year,

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especially in the horror realm. I'm the outlier. A lot

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of people have been shocked to hear this because they

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hear me seeing Long Legs and Maxine and Staying and

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Late Night with the Devil all these scenes in theaters. Yeah,

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and then they're like, what's your favorite horror movie of

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the year, And I'm like, Oh, that would be a

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quiet place day one, and they're all like what. And

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then it's funny because at first I was like, I

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guess it's weird to have that be a favorite. Hey,

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it outsold all of those other horror movies combined, and

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it was just damn good. And then I and then

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I found out a month later that it was directed

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by the writer and director of Pig, and that's a phenomenal.

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Film, possible. Stay tuned on the show that Could be,

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Pig is an excellent film.

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So but no, So I love Trap.

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You I know you didn't I get it to say

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five stars on Letterbox while I was in the THEA.

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Yeah, that's just because you want everybody to pay attention

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to you.

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favorite horror film, if not possibly favorite film. With twenty

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twenty four so far, it's the first film that I've

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given five stars to on Letterbox for the year.

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Do you want? Do you want me to be quiet

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so you can tell Ty West to fuck himself?

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No, it's not Ty West. N Ty West is not

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at the fuck himself. We've already had the discussion of

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Maxine on the show.

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We did like it. Yeah, Maxim is far and pearls

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of goddamn masterpiece.

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But Trap got me so good because I can't say

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anything without giving away too much. But if you go

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by the two trailers that have been released so far,

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you have an idea what the movie is gonna be.

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You have no fucking idea what the third acts gonna be.

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Yeah, No, that's absolutely true.

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Yeah, and it all works.

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Josh Hartnett is so terrifying in this movie, Like I

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was getting uncomfortable with the close up shots of it.

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Well, he's off putting. He's so off, which is really fascinating.

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The way and the way they filmed him and the

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way they filmed his dialogue scenes. Yeah, like makes you uneasy.

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theater that, Like, I've been playing a lot of Hitman

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two recently because it's a great stress reliever for one,

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but also trying to get all the goals met on

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that game is very tough but a lot of fun.

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This movie is just feels like one giant Hitman level

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for a bit.

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It's the most white boy thing I've ever heard. Anne

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is a great stress reliever. Bro dude, I don't give

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a shit. It is my fail listen olymp biscuit until

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my dickhead stepdad comes out.

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By If I fuck up a mission, I can just

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kill everybody, which is always nice.

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Yeah yeah yeah.

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And also you can run through those mines. Bruh.

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People are like, why don't you like playing video games?

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Because my friend is Dave. Well, real quick, before we

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finish up our points about Trap, yes, do you want

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to plug your friggin' letterbox because you you know you

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have one and you just said you did.

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I mean, you can find my letterbox at David's watching

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movies again, which is David s w wm A yeah WMX.

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I keep forgetting it because they wouldn't let me put

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the full title in there, like it is on my Instagram.

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So if anybody wants to be really unhappy David S

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Pumpkins at at David S Pumpkins. So anyway, but Trapped

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cannot or Trap rather, ye cannot recommend enough to go

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see it in the theater. I hope it kills this

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opening weekend. But me, as we said, we're recording this

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before it has been reported, so I have no idea

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what's gonna happen.

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And we also, for the record, did see a new

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trailer for Speak to Evil, which I told you I

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found out recently as a remake of a twenty twenty

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two foreign film. But the new trailer really step things

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up for me, with a lot more of Macavoy talking

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and not just being menacing.

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good at doing at these smaller studios that are putting

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out horror movies like Neon and stuff like that, is

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getting really good at giving you the least amount the

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first trailer, like really the least amount, to the point

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where when the next trailer drops, you kind of like,

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even if you're sitting there like eating your popcorn talking

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your buddy, you look go, oh, I haven't seen these scenes?

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Yeah what is this? Yeah, And that's the way I

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felt when that trailer drop tonight. I was like, oh, man,

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I'm like learning what the movie's really about and not

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just getting a sense of the tone. Yeah, so yeah,

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that looks really good.

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But yeah, Trap highly recommend.

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You think it could be thrown trap in your mind.

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I doubt it. I don't know.

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I don't know, man, Trap. Trap met every expectation possible

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for me, and then some because I was already going

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into the idea of it essentially being what we've discussed

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off Mike. I don't want to give me spoilers, but

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we thought it was gonna be what it turned out

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to be. Blew me away. And that's all I can

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really say about it.

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Blew you got it, blew me swim me hard. So

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with all that out of the way, Yes, shall we

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dive into nineteen ninety Two's the player?

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We shall?

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So we're talking about the Player from nineteen ninety two,

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two hours and four minutes, rateed R for language and

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for some sensuality.

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And you'll notice every minute, yes you will.

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There are two scenes that are pretty heavy on it.

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Our director on the film is Robert Altman. It's on

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this man's resume, with his directing starting in nineteen forty

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eight with Bodyguard, he got a story credit for his

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directing doesn't start until fifty seven, though, with The Delinquents,

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where he was writer, producer and director on He did

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a director on Albert Hitchcock Presents to fifty seven m

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Squad Maverick Bonanza, Combat The Cold Day in the Park

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mash in nineteen seventy which you already talked about the

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feature film, the feature film TV TV show, yeah, which

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if you have not seen the feature film of Mash,

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it is absolutely worth the watch.

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Oh yeah, no, it's it's a it's a great film.

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But it's just it's so different from everything else that

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was out. I can't believe it was a huge hit

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because it was so odd, and I can't believe that

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anybody would watch Mash and go, you know what, this

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needs to be a sickles track, Like, let's make it

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a sitcom. Every week people are going to watch these

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guys do uh you know, surgeon death stuff.

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Mash also containing the first instance of fuck ever being

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united no film?

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Is that real?

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Accurate?

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That is the first f bomb ever on film, ever

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on film, ember on film, on a major motion picture.

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Oh okay, okay, so now the qualifiers come out. What

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on a studio studio movie? My apologies? What other I'm

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not even get into this.

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Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back

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to Do You Even movie?

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Brister McLoud in nineteen seventy mccab and Missus Miller in

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seventy one, which he is writer and director on Images

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in seventy two, writer and director, The Long Goodbye in

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seventy three, Thieves Like Us in seventy four, California Split,

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Nashville in seventy five, Buffalo's Bill and the Indians or

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Sitting Bull's History, Lesson in seventy six, which he's writer

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and director on Three Women, A Wedding, Quintet, The Perfect Couple,

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Popeye in nineteen eighty.

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Then he does.

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Beyond Therapy, which he's writer and director on Basements, The

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Player in ninety two, Shortcuts in ninety three, Ready to

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Wear in ninety four, can A City in ninety six,

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The gingerbread Man in ninety eight, Not the Ginger Dead Man,

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Thank God, Doctor t and the Woman in two thousand,

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Gospel Park two thousand and one, The Company in two

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thousand and three, and Prairie Home Companion in two thousand

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and six. He unfortunately passed in two thousand and six

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as well, at the age of eighty one, due to

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do leukemia.

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I can't believe how few of his movies I've watched

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in the same in the nineties.

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I was really surprised.

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I thought this might have been the only film he

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did in the nineties. Use I had no idea.

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Yeah, he was going for a while there, which I'll

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get into a little bit more about The Player in

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shortcuts when we get into the trivia at the end

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of the episode. Moving on down to our writer, it's

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Michael Tolkien who did the novel for The Player. He

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gets his start, ironically in Delta House seventy nine.

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Oh, we talked about that last week.

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Yep.

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He was a writer on that Taxi in eighty Gossip

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in eighty two, Gleaming the Cube in eighty nine.

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I don't know that Christian Slater skateboard crime movie.

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Oh lord, yeah, okay, yeah, The Rapture in ninety one,

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which he's writer and director on, The Player in ninety two,

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which he eats, novel and screenplay for Deep Cover in

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nineteen ninety two, which he wrote the screenplay for Deep Cut.

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Laurence Fishburne is the undercover cop with gold Bloom.

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Oh yeah, that's a good one.

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That's a really good one, very good movie.

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The New Age, which he's writer director on in ninety four,

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The Burning Season in ninety four, The Player in ninety two,

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Deep no the Player TV movie in ninety seven.

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There's a TV movie by.

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The way, what, yeah, how does that happen?

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Five years later?

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There's a TV movie called The Player, which I kind

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of wanted to track down, but also I don't know

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if I want.

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To, you know, I'll dig up some info about it

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while you're deep.

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Impact in nineteen ninety eight, Changing Lanes in two thousand

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and two, Masters of Science Fiction in two thousand and seven,

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Nine in two thousand and nine, which she's a screenplay

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writer for Ray Donovan episodes in twenty fourteen. Oh okay,

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Escape at Dana Rama in twenty eighteen, and he most

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recently created the offer, the TV series about the Godfather,

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The Making of the Godfather in twenty twenty two.

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Really that was him. That's a really good series.

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Yeah. Moving on down to our cinematographer. It is Jean Lapine.

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He gets his start as assistant camera and come back

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to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean in eighty two,

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Lucian Brolliard and nineteen eighty three, Streamers in eighty three,

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Secret Honor Mario in eighty four, Full for Love in

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eighty five, Shoots the OC and STIGs in eighty five,

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The Boy in Blue, Nowhere to Hide, the Cane Mutiny,

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Court Marshall cinematographer On Tanner in eighty eight, which is

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another Altman productions of the TV series he did, Vincent

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and Theo, another movie he did in the ninety The

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Player in ninety two, Bob Roberts in ninety two, A

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Home of Our Own in ninety three, Ready to Wear

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in ninety four, Habitat Hysteria A cool, dry place to

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walk with lions, The Intruder in nineteen ninety nine, Coast

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to Coast two thousand and three, Ambulance Girl two thousand

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and five, and Crossroads A Story Forgiveness in two thousand

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and seven. Huh Yeah, not a lot that I recognized.

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Yeah, which is really rarity.

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Yeah, this was a guy that Altman used a lot

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from from what they said on the bonus features.

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Well, before you continue, yes, I looked up The Player

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in nineteen ninety seven TV movie, So it wasn't a

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TV movie. Okay, let me tell you. Don't look at

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the fucking screen.

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I'm not looking. I'm not looking at apologies.

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We're having a conversation conversation here. Yeah. Well, so nineteen

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ninety seven TV movie it was actually a pilot. Oh,

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based on the film The Player, which means that somebody

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thought this should be a series, but you got it. Guys.

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Remember we're not talking about the heyday of HBO. We're

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talking about the heyday of episodic TV being very consistent

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and a little boring. Yeah. So apparently it was written

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by Michael Tolkien, as you said, starred Patrick Dempsey and

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Michael Parks.

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Holy shit. So Dempsey, I'm guessing is Griffin Mills and

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is Parks Levinson? Yeah, no, shit, that's really cool.

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Although it says Frank Levison Levison instead of wasn't.

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He Joel Jolson?

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Yeah? Yeah, so it's a different name. But I can't

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find much info. I don't know if this is available

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anywhere to watch. Probably I can hunt it down if

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you want me to.

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Possibly.

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I did find out La Confidential also got a pilot

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series that was a total dogshit from what I've read

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about it.

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Apparently there were a lot of movie pilots that just

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everybody forgot about, and thank goodness that they did. So.

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Moving down our IMDb synopsis, it says a Hollywood studio

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executive is being sent death threats by a writer whose

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script he rejected.

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But which one?

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That's pretty good, I mean, considering it's impossible to really

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say what the hell the Player is about.

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This is true.

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My synopsis says, when studio executive Gryffin Mill begins, Gryffin

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Mills begins to receive threatening postcards from a writer who

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screenplay he didn't accept. Griffin has pulled into a web

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of blackmail, murder, and movie pitches.

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All right, that's cute, that's cute. We'll give a little.

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That was cute.

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I like that.

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I found one two minute clip from the Player in

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nineteen ninety seven on YouTube. So well, I mean, I

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can I can check my sources. I might be able

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to find a whole episode or the whole video or whatever.

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I have no idea how long it is. It's weird

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that it's listed as a TV movie. Yeah, but and

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it doesn't have there's no run time on IMDb or anything.

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Probably three hours long at least. So but no, not

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a bad breakdown.

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Well I appreciate that.

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So moving on to our cast. We have Tim Robbins

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who plays Griffin millin this. He gets his start on

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in nineteen eighty two on St Elsewhere, Quarterback, Princess in

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eighty three, Santa Barbara in eighty four, The Love Boat

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in eighty four, No Small Affair in eighty four, appears

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in the Short Thing in eighty five, Moonlighting, Fraternity Vacation,

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Amazing Stories in eighty six, Top Gun in eighty six,

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Howard the Duck in eighty six, Five Corners eighty seven,

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Bull Durham in eight eighty eight, Twister, No, not that Twister,

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the one from nineteen eight nine, Cadillac Man in ninety,

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Jacob's Latter in nineteen ninety, Jungle Fever ninety one, does

473
00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:36.000
the Player in ninety two. Same year, he writes and

474
00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:39.119
directs Bob Roberts in ninety two, Short Cuts in ninety three,

475
00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:42.240
The Hudsucker Proxy in ninety four, Shawshank, Redemption in ninety four,

476
00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:44.880
Ready to Wear in ninety four, IQ in ninety four,

477
00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:47.440
Dead Man Walking, which he's the director on in ninety five,

478
00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.279
Nothing to Lose in ninety seven, Arlington Road in ninety nine.

479
00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:51.880
He does autoin Powers This is by shagm Me in

480
00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:55.119
ninety nine, The Simpsons Mission to Mars, High Fidelity, Anti Trust,

481
00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:56.720
and of course missic River in two thousand and three.

482
00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.640
As a well, my lord, he was busy, He was

483
00:21:58.680 --> 00:21:59.279
a very busy.

484
00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:00.279
Did he just die?

485
00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:03.240
No, remember I'm only I'm only going a certain amount

486
00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:04.119
on some of these actors.

487
00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:07.319
Oh, okay, so he died, he did not die. Dave

488
00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:08.079
says he died.

489
00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:10.240
I'm basically only a decade after the movie to see

490
00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:13.000
what happened with the movie in regards of his career,

491
00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:15.839
and everybody else's.

492
00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:18.160
What I'm just looking at you.

493
00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.240
We've discussed this before. Moving on down.

494
00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:22.480
We have Cynthia Stevenson, who plays Bonnie Chirou in this.

495
00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:24.720
She gets her start in eighty seven on Max Headroom,

496
00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:27.200
New Heart in nineteen eighty nine, Cheers in eighty nine,

497
00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:30.119
Double Your Pleasure eighty nine, Empty Nest in nineteen ninety,

498
00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.319
Major Dad ninety one, The Player ninety two, Watch It

499
00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:35.200
ninety three, dream On in ninety four.

500
00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:36.920
I vaguely remember her on dream On.

501
00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:39.480
Forget Paris in ninety five, Home for the Holidays in

502
00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:42.960
ninety five, Yes, Yep, Hope and Gloria ninety five, Aliy

503
00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:45.759
mcbeale ninety eight, Happiness in ninety eight, Airbo.

504
00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.440
Course, Oh yes, soon to come to the procritarion.

505
00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:52.400
No, you don't want to talk about happiness, not not really?

506
00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.759
No, what a letdown?

507
00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:58.519
Airbud Golden Receiver in ninety eight, Oh Baby, ninety eight,

508
00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:00.279
King of the Hill two thousand and two, A Cody

509
00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:02.440
Banks two thousand and three, according to Gym two thousand

510
00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:03.759
and three, Dead Like Me in two thousand.

511
00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:05.640
That's what I remember her the most is dead Like

512
00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:08.039
Oh no, I fully remember because I watched Dead Like

513
00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:09.359
Me all the way through multiple times.

514
00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:10.960
Did you ever see the TV movie The Show's Up?

515
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:11.440
Yeah?

516
00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:12.039
What'd you think?

517
00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.400
I mean? I liked having a wrap up. It wasn't

518
00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:16.680
it wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed.

519
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:16.880
It was fun.

520
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.160
Six Feet Under two thousand and five, The L Word

521
00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:20.839
in two thousand and six, and Monk in two thousand

522
00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:21.160
and six.

523
00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:23.279
As well, Oh okay.

524
00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:24.839
And wrapping us Up, even though I say wrapping us

525
00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:26.839
up because everybody's in this movie. But the last big

526
00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.200
one is Fred Ward, who plays Walter stuck Allen. This

527
00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:31.440
he gets to start in seventy four, and Ginger in

528
00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.400
the Morning, Quincy Mme in seventy six, Tilt in seventy nine,

529
00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:36.799
Escape from Alcatraz in seventy nine, The Incredible Hulk in

530
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:41.319
seventy nine, Carney in nineteen eighty, Southern Comfort, The Right Stuff, Silkwood,

531
00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.680
uncommon valor, swing shift Remo Williams. The adventure begins a

532
00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:49.319
god damn right, hold the yeah, Remo Williams, that's the

533
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:50.240
first applause.

534
00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:53.880
Yes, that movie. Back when I lived in Jersey, I

535
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.000
had a buddy who was obsessed with that film. It's

536
00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:57.839
a fun movie, and he would he would put it

537
00:23:57.880 --> 00:23:59.880
on like when we were all like tired and starting

538
00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:02.799
to conk out. He'd be like, time for Remo Williams.

539
00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:06.000
But of course my favorite it's credit of his is

540
00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:06.359
in here.

541
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:08.720
The Hitchhiker in eighty seven, Off Limits in eighty eight,

542
00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:10.759
Big Business in eighty eight. Then in nineteen ninety he

543
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:12.720
does a little film called Tremors.

544
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:15.079
God damn right he does that.

545
00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.640
He does Catch Fire aka Backtrack in nineteen ninety, Mimi Blues,

546
00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:20.960
The Dark Wind, Cast a Deadly Spell in ninety one,

547
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:23.559
The Player in ninety two. Same year he does Thunderheart,

548
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:26.079
Bob Roberts, Four Eyes and Six Guns in ninety two,

549
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.319
Shortcuts in ninety three, Tremor's Two Aftershocks in ninety.

550
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.799
Six, Greatest Film of all Time, Chain Reaction.

551
00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:35.759
In ninety six, Best Man ninety seven, Invasion Earth ninety eight,

552
00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:38.319
The Chaos Factor two thousand, Road Trip in two thousand

553
00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:40.559
and The Crow Salvation in two thousand.

554
00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:41.720
As well, the best Crow film.

555
00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:42.680
It's one of my favorites.

556
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:46.720
Actually, you haven't even seen it, and I'm going to

557
00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:48.400
show it to you, So don't worry, okay, I.

558
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:50.440
Mean, as long as we can still watch, I'll always

559
00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:51.400
know what you did last summer.

560
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.279
It'll happen. I'm sure I know.

561
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.000
The player is currently available on Maxic Criterion. As who

562
00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:58.000
says you can also rener by this river you get it.

563
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:01.799
In regards to the Criterion, it is loaded with bonus content.

564
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:04.079
Cannot recommend it enough. I watched to basically all of

565
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:05.400
it to prepare for the show.

566
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:07.680
We already know. Your first time watching was.

567
00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:09.799
Just now, wait you prepare for the show?

568
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:13.000
I do, how rude?

569
00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:15.640
I'm going to click X to doubt.

570
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:19.759
Oh yeah, dex to doubt. So my first time watching this,

571
00:25:20.519 --> 00:25:23.079
I was assigned this movie. I belonged to a Discord

572
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:25.359
group that we do this thing called Mandatory Film School

573
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:29.039
where basically, like two or three every two or three months,

574
00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:31.680
we do a like two month course where we all

575
00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:34.640
go through each other's letterbox list and pick movies depending

576
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:36.240
on the assignment of the person running the class.

577
00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:37.359
Sounds horrible.

578
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:38.799
It's a lot of fun. It's how I've seen a

579
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:39.519
lot of it.

580
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:41.240
Sounds like being in school again.

581
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:43.640
Anyway, the player got a sign to me. I had

582
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:45.920
known about the movie. I had had heard it was good,

583
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.319
but I hadn't seen it. And I mean, needless to

584
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:51.160
say it, it blew me away the first time watching

585
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:53.640
it because I just did not expect it to go

586
00:25:53.680 --> 00:25:55.759
to the levels it did. Also have the star power

587
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:59.039
it did. And also I mean that that opening tracking shot,

588
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:00.480
which we'll get into here in a lot little bit.

589
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.000
It was pretty cool. Yeah, I know, it's pretty cool.

590
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.039
And it's just got that old timey Hollywood feel the

591
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:10.039
movie old timey, old timey studio, studio budget did studio.

592
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.519
But granted that was thirty two, thirty two years ago,

593
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.000
but yeah, studio. It's just got that studio Hollywood feel

594
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:17.319
to it. And I love movies about making movies, so

595
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:18.640
this is an easy one for me too.

596
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.839
It's barely a movie about making movies. No, it's a

597
00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:22.720
show business movie.

598
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:23.599
Show business movie.

599
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:27.200
But I'm not I'm not trying to crap on your point. Yeah,

600
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:31.079
what I'm saying is a movie about making a movie

601
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:32.599
has a set.

602
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:33.839
I said, making movies.

603
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:36.000
I still don't think it's we.

604
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:39.200
Go to three different sets, by the way, barely maybe

605
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:41.759
we do. You fell asleep for one, I did.

606
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.880
I'm not gonna lie. I'm just saying, like living in Oblivion,

607
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:46.759
that's a movie about movie.

608
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:52.440
Yeah, that's that's entirely you know, that's the brutal yeah

609
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:53.000
bow finger.

610
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:55.400
Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just saying this is more to me,

611
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:57.200
more of a show business movie.

612
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:58.160
Yeah, it absolutely is.

613
00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:00.119
That's all I'm saying. I'm not like it's it's it's

614
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:01.880
just a little bit of better.

615
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:05.319
I will entirely fuck off the podcast now, it's fine.

616
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:09.039
Awesome, all right, guys, good news. It's just you and me. Now,

617
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:11.440
don't worry about here. I'll mute him. Here we go.

618
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:16.079
Don't worry about everything, guys. So rude, what No, Dave's

619
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:20.920
out and I'm gonna tell you all about your lifestyle choices.

620
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:24.119
Baby, But no, I was immediately went over by the movie,

621
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:25.720
and I was honestly excited to show you. I was

622
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:28.480
kind of surprised you hadn't seen it, but especially since

623
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:29.359
it was ninety two as.

624
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.519
Well, I'm surprised I hadn't seen it as well. Yeah,

625
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.000
so you want to get into it now, let's just

626
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:35.799
wrap it up now, all right, Well, thanks for listening,

627
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:39.599
all right, thanks guys, audios. No, but I will say

628
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:43.440
I mean I liked the film. Yeah. I think that

629
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:50.279
what really drives the movie to work better is that

630
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:57.480
it's nostalgic. It's a snapshot of nineteen ninety two Hollywood. Yeah,

631
00:27:57.519 --> 00:27:59.039
and that makes it a lot more fun. I think

632
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:01.279
if I had, well, if i'd see in nineteen eighty two,

633
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:04.240
I would have been a child, a very young child.

634
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:07.400
But I think if I had seen it, I don't know,

635
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.000
when I was like eighteen, I probably would have thought

636
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.839
it was okay. But a little boring. Time has been

637
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.799
kind to the film and definitely made it more exciting

638
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:21.240
for me. And that's my initial opinion of it. It

639
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:21.960
is a little slow.

640
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:22.720
It is a little slow.

641
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:24.559
And also I will say it is it is a

642
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:28.200
dialogue driven film. In regards to specific things that are said,

643
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:29.839
well not I'm going to try to recap them as

644
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.119
best I can, but we can't cover everything that happens

645
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:33.599
in this movie.

646
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.119
Well, in a way, very little happens. Yeah, Because when

647
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:39.799
there's a lot of dialogue, you know.

648
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:41.400
It's a lot of movie pitches too well.

649
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.039
Look, as a person who has has written a bunch

650
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.440
of screenplays and developed a bunch of screenplays, you literally,

651
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:53.519
when you're outlining a screenplay, you literally say what it's like,

652
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.039
what you do, but in reverse where you narrow it

653
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.960
down after watching it. When you're right screenplay, it'll be

654
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.279
like the outline is literally like so and so and

655
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.279
so and so meet up at a diner. They discuss

656
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:09.799
blank and blank and decide blank, that's it. That could

657
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:13.359
be four pages, that could be four minutes on screen,

658
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:14.960
that could be five minutes on screen, that could be

659
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.359
one minute on screen. It's very like that. So that's

660
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.240
kind of my point of like I have a feeling

661
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.799
this is gonna zoom by because most of it is

662
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:28.720
people talking, and the point is kind of secondary. Altman's

663
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:32.079
kind of tapping into like well he always was kind

664
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:35.559
of tapping into like pre mumble core. Yeah sometimes, Yeah,

665
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:40.039
this one's a bit more mainstream. Sure, I was gonna

666
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:44.519
say a bit more like disciplined. It's like a little

667
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:48.400
bit less leading into like the super improvenus, which makes

668
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.480
it honestly a little bit easier to follow. Not that

669
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:52.720
I don't like the Cassavetti style and stuff. That stuff

670
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.160
is fun and sometimes you get fucking gold from that stuff.

671
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:57.039
Absolutely so.

672
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:59.160
But I will say, yeah, there's there's a lot of

673
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:02.480
that kind of like the camera's really far away, Yeah,

674
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:03.240
it pulls in.

675
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.039
We've got kind of a long Friday, long good Friday

676
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:11.680
situation here again and with a Dave pick not un ironically. Yeah,

677
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.519
but it's the same thing of like, yes, stuff happens

678
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:17.359
in this movie, but the meat and potatoes of it

679
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.640
is everything that's happening around the core plot.

680
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:24.200
Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean for sure, Yeah, do.

681
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:34.960
You Even movie will be right back, welcome back to

682
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:37.960
do You Even movie?

683
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:41.799
Anyway, do what you must say.

684
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:43.559
So we open with a shot of the clapboard.

685
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.559
We hear quite on the set, and we just see

686
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:47.920
a beautiful painting as we get the title of the player,

687
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:50.519
and that's when we get a eight minute tracking shot

688
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:51.519
of a studio lot.

689
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.319
Was it really eight minutes long?

690
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:54.720
Wow? It felt like five.

691
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.960
I mean it goes by quick, but I mean it's

692
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:00.480
it is. The First time I saw this, I was

693
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.960
just enamored by how smooth it is. Like you don't

694
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.119
even realize, honestly that it's all it's a crane shot.

695
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.039
Yeah, I mean I I mean it was good. Yeah,

696
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.480
but I mean Goodfellas wipes its butt with it. That

697
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:13.400
Remember the shot where they go through the inside. They

698
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.119
go through the back door of the restaurant all the

699
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:16.279
way to the front with any young men.

700
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.480
Yeah, but they don't go around an entire studio a lot.

701
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.240
No, it's harder to go through a restaurant than it

702
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:24.720
would be to go they're outdoors. Not again, I'm not

703
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.440
crapping on it. I'm just saying, like literally what they

704
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.559
did was like they're on a crane, so like the

705
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.519
camera goes way up and then it's like there's this

706
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.960
turn go back down. It's not like they had to

707
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.440
have a camera op walking through hallways and stuff. I mean,

708
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.200
it was turning and zooming and turning and zooming, which

709
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.920
Altman loved. Zoom loves zooms, so it makes sense. And

710
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.079
it was a really cool way to kind of introduce

711
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.440
the idea that everybody's doing every stuff all at the

712
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.319
same time, absolutely, and that there there's not a lot

713
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.680
of synergy and everybody's kind of a phony. I mean,

714
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.480
I like all of that, Yeah, I do. I'm I

715
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:03.759
thought that that was a cool way to open it, yeah,

716
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.480
but I mean I've seen one shots that were way more.

717
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:08.640
Like well, and I think what I really like about

718
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.119
this is it establishes basically all of our main players

719
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:14.279
in the movie. I mean, because we meet everybody in

720
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.359
this in this first five minute five eight minutes, the players,

721
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.920
the players, because only the only person we don't meet

722
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:23.359
is the love interest, but she comes soon enough.

723
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.039
Well, the other love love interest.

724
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:26.759
Yet you're not wrong.

725
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.160
So we see a secretary getting scolded or an assistan

726
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.039
getting scolded by the secretary of the studio.

727
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:33.880
We see the huge studio.

728
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.400
Lot, and then we watch somebody drive up in a

729
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.359
range rover, and that's we meet Griffin Mills played by

730
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.000
Tim Robbins. He steps out and he's immediately bombarded by

731
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:41.680
a guy with the movie pitch. And this is one

732
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:43.680
of a hundred movie pitches in this movie.

733
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:47.240
There are so many movie pitches, and I do like

734
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.480
that's a lot of them. They did in that mumble

735
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:54.160
core kind of improvy way, because like they start talking

736
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.279
over each other. And I don't even think I picked

737
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:58.559
up half the pitches because of that. Oh yeah, I

738
00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:00.720
mean the pitchure I thought was funny. I couldn't even

739
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:02.319
I couldn't even follow the pitch.

740
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:04.640
They're quick pitches too, Like, I mean, because he because

741
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.039
Griffins are like five words or less. Yeah, So I

742
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.559
mean Griffin steps out and he's immediately bombarded by a

743
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:11.799
guy with the pitch and he walks past him. Then

744
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:13.839
we meet Walter Stuckout, who's the head of security at

745
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.200
the studio. Then we followed Griffin into his office, but

746
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.799
we're outside of a window as he's getting pitched, which

747
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:20.799
is the Graduate too, by the original writer of The

748
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:21.519
Graduate by the way.

749
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:22.839
Yeah, and his pitch is terrible.

750
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:23.480
That's terrible.

751
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.160
It just sounds like such a piece of crime.

752
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.160
Like this is Robinson is in a coma but it's

753
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:28.279
supposed to be funny, and.

754
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:30.119
She lives with the guy and the girl who got

755
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:31.640
married at the end of the Yeah, like what.

756
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.480
So Griffin goes into his office, we see a bunch

757
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.880
of movie pitches. We also meet Bonnie Chirou on the

758
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.160
lot and she's tending to an injured guy who it

759
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:41.960
gets hit by a male cart, so he's down on

760
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:42.319
the ground.

761
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.039
There's a lot of chaos, had I don't.

762
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.000
See how the gender of the cart is relevant.

763
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:48.000
We see a lot of chaos on the movie lot,

764
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.160
but also meet again all the players of the movie.

765
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.680
Yeah. No, it's a great way to introduce everybody.

766
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.680
Including Joel Levinson. He's the head of the studio.

767
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:56.559
He arrives and he goes in for a meeting, and

768
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.640
we also hear discussions people are walking past that somebody

769
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:01.559
is moved being into the studio and that there may

770
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.000
be a buyout happening. Larry Levy is or Levy is

771
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.720
a name that's thrown around who is originally from Fox,

772
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.599
but he has left Fox early to come go into

773
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:09.039
the studio.

774
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.519
Well, what they're saying is that right now the studio

775
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:13.880
is in a downturn. Yeah, which they talk about how

776
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.239
like it's happened to Universal, it's happened at Paramount, and

777
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:19.280
right now we're having it. So they they because they

778
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:24.159
mentioned as the plot progresses that that having anything that

779
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.360
could put the studio in a worse position would leave

780
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:32.159
them open to getting bought out or getting a hostile

781
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.000
takeover or whatever. So they're very careful. They need. All

782
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.519
they need right now is like nobody to do anything

783
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:40.360
fucked up and for a hit top.

784
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:41.079
For a hit to happen.

785
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.639
Yeah, So we keep hearing names being dropped on these

786
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.119
pitches of who they want Bruce Willis, Julia Roberts over

787
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:46.760
and over again.

788
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:48.199
I don't know if you know this, but that's I mean,

789
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:49.880
that's how you pitch. Oh yeah, no, but like I

790
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:55.639
mean when you pitch to a studio sort even like

791
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.280
a larger indie studio. Yeah, you literally your goal is

792
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.880
to get them to visit visualize your pitch so that

793
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:02.639
they'll say yes.

794
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.159
Well, so that's also like keep comparing movies like what

795
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:06.760
is it Pretty Woman meets Out of Africa.

796
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:08.559
Oh yeah, that's a very common one too. But like

797
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.199
you'll literally you could literally be in a pitch meeting

798
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:17.400
and say, like, we have a daring, handsome, strong hero,

799
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:22.199
Think the Rock. You may never in a billion years

800
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.079
get the Rock. You just say think the Rock because

801
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:26.480
you're trying to get them to see the movie in

802
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:29.719
their stupid little brains so that they'll say yes and

803
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:33.440
they'll give you some money. But like, it's funny because

804
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.079
one of my favorite scenes is coming up a little bit.

805
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.039
When they pitch it, the guy is just going crazy.

806
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.679
He's like making sound effects and all this stuff. Some

807
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.679
of the best pitches are done that way. Yeah, because

808
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:57.360
executives have zero, zero fucking imagination. So if you got

809
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:01.159
sock puppets, pull them off your goddamn toe. Make your

810
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:02.639
sale anyway.

811
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:04.039
So we go.

812
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.960
We hear Griffin as like possibly getting replaced by Larry Levy,

813
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:09.320
and that's when we go into Griffin's office.

814
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:10.840
He's getting another pitch for a movie.

815
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.360
When we saw the guy get taken out by the cart,

816
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.400
we also went into a close up on a postcard,

817
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.480
and as Griffin sitting in the studio hearing this pitch

818
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.760
from this other guy, he gets the postcard. He turns

819
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.440
it over and it says, I hate your guts, asshole. It

820
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.320
sure does, and that's when Griffin ends his pitch meeting.

821
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.280
He goes to see Joel Levinson walking into a secret

822
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.440
meeting in progress that he had no idea was happening.

823
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:35.000
Yeah, I'm not happy with the postcards.

824
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:35.920
Yeah, I know you're not.

825
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:37.559
I gotta be honest, I know you're not.

826
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.440
So Levinson welcomes him and he introduces him to Reg Goldman,

827
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:44.280
who is wanting to get into producing pictures. Griffin excuses

828
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:48.000
himself and he goes to Levinson's secretary, Celia, who tells him,

829
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.079
you know, don't ask what's going on, like, don't worry

830
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.599
about it, and you know, don't feel threatened by Reggie,

831
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:54.599
and Griffin tells her that he's not worried about it.

832
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:56.440
He's more so worried about Larry Levy and she's like, oh,

833
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:58.239
don't worry about Larry, Like he's just being brought in

834
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.119
as you know, just somebody that we're using that just

835
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:02.039
recently left Fox.

836
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:04.159
Yeah, he's joining the team.

837
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.360
He's joining the team. So Celia won't give Hi much information.

838
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:09.000
So Gryffin has were going to lunch, and that's when

839
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.519
we see he's at this place and once again surrounded

840
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:15.079
by celebrities. We see Martin Maull and Jelicie Houston, John Cusack,

841
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.119
I mean just Griffin goes to introduce himself to Houston

842
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.079
and Cusack and they really don't want.

843
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.920
Anything to do with him. They're pretty quick, yes, And.

844
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.079
The entire reason we're supposedly watching the film.

845
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.239
Martin Maull is sitting at a table diagonal.

846
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.480
And he's like drinking some water or something and laughing.

847
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:38.320
He does laugh maybe, So that's when he requests, like

848
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:39.960
they sitting now with his friends and he requests, you know,

849
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:41.559
can we talk about anything this on Hollywood. You know,

850
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.920
we're we're civilized people. And the table goes quiet for

851
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:45.559
a little bit and then just erupts into laughter.

852
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:47.199
Yeah it's a pretty good moment.

853
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:47.760
Yeah.

854
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.519
So that's when he also goes to his car. He

855
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.239
gets his car from the valet, and this time he

856
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.400
has another postcard on his car with the Humphrey Bogart

857
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:56.039
on the thing and it says, I told you my idea,

858
00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:58.000
you told me, you get back to me, well with

859
00:37:58.079 --> 00:37:58.840
a question mark.

860
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:03.159
Gee, I wonder what's up with these postcards? I sure

861
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:04.840
hope that it's not a waste of time.

862
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:06.159
Not a waste of time.

863
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:08.920
When I started watching the movie, I thought the whole

864
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:10.840
point of the movie was gonna be the postcard.

865
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.119
Well, we'll find out, I guess.

866
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.599
I mean, in a way it is, And in a

867
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.480
way it's not me. I'm not that's being as.

868
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.719
Fair as Yeah you're you're critiquing.

869
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:22.719
Yeah no, but I mean, like, in a way you

870
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:27.000
could argue that the postcards are so important. Yeah, that

871
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.400
I'm way off. But I just think that the when

872
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.840
we get there, that final payoff on the postcards. Not

873
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:33.880
a fan, just not a fan of the payoff I

874
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:34.559
get it. I get it.

875
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:36.800
So we find out he's gotten five of these postcards

876
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.280
now in two weeks. Jan His one of his assistants

877
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:41.320
is telling him, you know, why don't you talk to security,

878
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:42.840
And Griffin's like, you know, well, I don't really have

879
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:43.639
a reason to go to them.

880
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:45.239
Like what am I gonna say? Like I'm being stalked

881
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.079
by somebody, but I can't figure out who it is.

882
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:47.719
Yeah.

883
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:49.920
Really, So he basically says that he's just gonna figure

884
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:51.519
the sun on his own. So then Bonnie comes in,

885
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.000
sits in his lap, and she asked about going to

886
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:55.719
the Springs this week, and he says, you know, well,

887
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.760
actually I got invited to a party at Dick Mellon's

888
00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.400
house tonight, which we'll find out is his lawyer.

889
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.559
I was so excited when I first heard because I

890
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.320
thought he said Dick Miller's yeah, And I was like, oh, man,

891
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:06.360
We're going to a party Dick Miller's.

892
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.599
Hey, I got some I got some can soup.

893
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.519
Do you want some soup? Hey? Only twenty five cents.

894
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.280
So they run into Marley Mantlin at the party and

895
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:18.760
Griffin also introduces Bonnie to Dick Mellon. Griffin then tries

896
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.679
to talk to Dick about the postcards, but he's telling

897
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:21.960
him you know again, he's like, you know, I don't

898
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.519
know what's going on. I think it's a pissed off writer.

899
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.480
And Dick Mellan kind of again like he's like, you know, well,

900
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.000
you shouldn't worry about it. You know, if it comes

901
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.239
with something, it'll become a something, and kind of waves

902
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:30.800
him off again.

903
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.320
Yeah, well, it seems like nobody likes him very much. Yeah, which,

904
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:39.039
by the way, just in reflecting on this film, Yeah,

905
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.800
that's the way it is. Like nobody in the Hollywood system.

906
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.159
It's like if you're not a winner, nobody gives a

907
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.840
fuck about you. Yeah, then your studio has a hit

908
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:50.079
or two, and then all of a sudden, Burt Reynolds

909
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:50.880
will be nice to you again.

910
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:52.880
Yeah. Yeah, you're not wrong.

911
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.360
So that's that's the way it is. So when you're

912
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:58.960
when you're down low, people love to walk on your neck, yeah,

913
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:00.960
and then when you're up high, they love to walk

914
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:02.039
on your cock. I guess.

915
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.280
I will also mention at the party, we do see

916
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.039
Jack Lemon playing piano. We never talked to him. He's

917
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:10.519
just there playing piano, I.

918
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:14.440
Know, but he also he looks miserable. Did you notice that,

919
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.280
like a little bit like And the funny thing is

920
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:17.960
I looked at was like, man, Jack Lemmon looks rough,

921
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:19.880
and I was like, this is not was it? This

922
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.119
was right before grumpy old Yeah, I was gonna say,

923
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:25.000
right before he looked way healthier at the old men.

924
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.440
So Griffin notices also Larry Levy as they're actually talking

925
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.000
to Jeff Goldblum with the party playing Jeff Goldbloom.

926
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:38.800
Wearing amazing, wearing a sweater that I cannot publicly comment on.

927
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.400
So my lord, Yeah, that's when he notices Larry is

928
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.760
there and at the party, like Dick confirms, you know, hey,

929
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:46.960
like the rumors are true, because Griffin has been saying

930
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:48.599
for the first couple of scenes like you know, well,

931
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:50.239
you know's anything happening. They're like, oh no, no, it's

932
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.440
just rumors. And he's like, you should always believe the rumors.

933
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:54.119
You're just the last person to believe them.

934
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:56.960
Yeah, yeah it was. And he's like, but his response

935
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:58.360
is I'm the last one to hear the last one

936
00:40:58.400 --> 00:40:58.880
to hear about it.

937
00:40:58.960 --> 00:40:59.119
Yeah.

938
00:40:59.199 --> 00:40:59.599
Yeah.

939
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:02.480
So it's clear that Griffin's job is actually in jeopardy now,

940
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.000
and he gets this confirmed. So that's when we cut

941
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.360
to Bonnie and Griffin back at his place and they

942
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.880
are together in jacuzzi as Bonnie is reading a sex

943
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.079
scene from a script that she's reading, and she's also nude,

944
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.239
and they're just listening to the script as she reads it,

945
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.559
and then he also starts talking about a script idea

946
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.000
that he has, but in reality, he's actually pitching his

947
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:21.760
own problem with a postcard stalker.

948
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:26.119
It was a weird scene, but I liked it, yeah,

949
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:31.480
because basically it's like he needs advice on his life, Yeah,

950
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.639
but he won't tell her that it's his life, so

951
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:38.559
he presents it as a work problem. Yeah, and then

952
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:41.119
she tries to solve it as a work problem by

953
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.039
basically telling him what she thinks the next logical step

954
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:44.880
in the story.

955
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.719
Would be, and how long he's going to be stalking him. Yeah,

956
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:48.480
she says, like, I think five months is like what

957
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:49.000
she gives it.

958
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.960
Yeah, but it's it's such a weird moment where I

959
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:59.199
feel like it really suggests how he cannot be real. Yeah,

960
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.719
how is whole life is a fugazi because this is

961
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:06.880
literally a woman that he's openly dating. They're spending a

962
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.360
lot of time together. They they're clearly not just a

963
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:11.840
workplace flame. Yeah, she like sits on his lap in

964
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:14.039
front of people. Yep, they all know that they're dating.

965
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.119
And then he has a real serious personal problem and

966
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:19.360
he presents it as a script problem.

967
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:19.679
Script.

968
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.360
Yeah, why not just tell her, Hey, somebody's harassing me.

969
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:29.679
And honestly, it wouldn't even hurt his his status because

970
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.440
he pisses a lot of people.

971
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.119
Off well, and not to mention too, Like she even asked.

972
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:34.360
She's like, you know, well, why don't you guys the writer?

973
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:35.719
He's like, oh, I don't know who it is. She's like,

974
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.320
you don't know the writer of the screenplay you just

975
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:37.679
pitched me.

976
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:40.280
I mean it's some kids from a TV.

977
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:42.719
Yes, So she kind of sees through his shit right away.

978
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:44.880
So then we next see he's out to another lunch

979
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:46.840
and going to a meeting with Levinson this time, and

980
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:50.079
Burt Reynolds is now out to lunch with I didn't

981
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:51.320
recognize who it was, but.

982
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.920
Burt Reynolds is there, Yeah, and uh, and he says

983
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.239
hello to Bert and when Bert says hi, and then

984
00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:57.880
as he walks away, he goes fucking asshole.

985
00:42:57.920 --> 00:42:58.519
Fun fact.

986
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.800
Reynolds none of the people in the film that are

987
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:03.880
cameos read a script or anything like that, so that

988
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.079
was just an improv on on his part.

989
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.159
Well, I'm sure Altman told him, like you hate him?

990
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:08.840
Yeah, you know.

991
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:10.079
Yeah.

992
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.079
So he goes to a meeting with Levison and Grifven

993
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.000
tells him that, you know, he's he's flat out and

994
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.679
not gonna work with Larry Levy and if he has

995
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.880
to work for him, he'll quit. And Levinson then threatens

996
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:19.320
him with the breach of contract, and he says that

997
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:20.239
he'll follow through.

998
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:24.400
With it, threaten in a he it's a very lighthearted way.

999
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:26.599
He just goes, now, you know, I'm not gonna let

1000
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:28.719
you do that. And then when he's like, you know,

1001
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.360
I will, I'll quit, he's like, you have a year

1002
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.119
and a half left on your contract and if you

1003
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:33.440
don't show up, I will sue.

1004
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:34.920
You'll find you for every day and sue you.

1005
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:35.320
Yeah.

1006
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:35.679
Yeah.

1007
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:37.719
So he's not like yelling at him, he's just kind

1008
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.639
of informing like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you got

1009
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.599
a lot of bluster, but this is what we're doing.

1010
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:43.880
And we should say too that. Uh.

1011
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.880
Levinson is played by the Great BREONN James, who unfortunately

1012
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:49.480
left us. But I mean he every time that guy

1013
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:51.840
is on screen, he always just steals my attention.

1014
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:56.159
Yeah, I mean he's so much more like type cast

1015
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:58.360
to be just a criminal. Yeah. And in this movie,

1016
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.000
not only is he playing a movie he's it gonna

1017
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:03.280
but he's playing like the least sleez bag you have

1018
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:04.119
the whole film.

1019
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:05.760
Yeah, it's it's surprising for.

1020
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:08.599
Yeah.

1021
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:10.320
So he tells him that he wants an answer by

1022
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:13.039
this afternoon. Griffin at the table gets another postcard and

1023
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:14.920
in the name of all the writers, it says, I'm

1024
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.280
going to kill you. So that's now three postcards that

1025
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:18.599
we've gotten since the start of the movie.

1026
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:20.519
Okay, maybe it's an unrelated death threat.

1027
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:21.480
Could be, who knows.

1028
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.599
So Griffin decides he wants to try and track down

1029
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.320
the postcard delivery because he realizes that it's not Postmark.

1030
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.559
So he talks to Jan and the mailroom delivery guy,

1031
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:29.480
and he's like, you know, I want you to go

1032
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:30.880
to the mailroom see if you can find out who

1033
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.440
handed this over to the delivery service. I want to name,

1034
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:34.719
you know, go on to the mail room and see

1035
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.199
we can find somebody. He starts frandally searching his past

1036
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.440
calendars because he realizes it's somebody that he's had to

1037
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:41.320
have talked to because they're saying, you know, you haven't

1038
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.519
called me back. So he finds out that the guy's

1039
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.480
name is possibly David Kahane. So he drives out to

1040
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:48.239
his house because he has his address. He sees he's

1041
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:50.360
not home, but he sees a woman inside, so he

1042
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:51.559
calls outside the house.

1043
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:52.760
And this is where we get one of the creepiest

1044
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:53.599
scenes of the movie.

1045
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:56.280
And by calls outside the house, we mean he calls

1046
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:58.760
the house's phone on his cellular phone.

1047
00:44:58.519 --> 00:44:59.559
And stands outside the house.

1048
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:03.599
Yeah, he's a very it's a very it's a good scene,

1049
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:06.280
oh very, But it's a very off putting scene because

1050
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:09.400
he's crying on her and she has no idea he's

1051
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.559
anywhere nearby. But I liked the scene. It was just, yeah,

1052
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.400
it was off putting, and I think that's the point. Yeah,

1053
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:18.679
Do You Even?

1054
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:30.360
Movie will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie.

1055
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.599
So he calls her and we meet June and he

1056
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:39.400
asked for Griffin. She tells him that he's not in.

1057
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:42.440
Griffin then introduces himself as Griffin Mills and she says, oh,

1058
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:44.039
the dead Man, and he's like, what did you say?

1059
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.559
And she's like, oh, that's what David calls you.

1060
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:47.239
I mean, that's what I call you.

1061
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:48.000
This is true.

1062
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.000
That is my nickname, so I would never call you

1063
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:50.360
a man.

1064
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.400
So the two talk on the phone while Griffin stalks

1065
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:55.840
outside the house. Finds out her last name is a

1066
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:58.800
Goodman's daughter and that she is from Iceland is what

1067
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:00.960
she says. She also tells him that David went to

1068
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:04.000
Pasadena for showing of The Bicycle Thief, and she states

1069
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:05.800
that she doesn't go to movies because life's too short.

1070
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.159
Because he has a whole conversation with her, and she

1071
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:10.400
basically gives him the point of telling him where David is.

1072
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:11.920
She talks about her art because we find out that

1073
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:13.280
she's an artist because she's doing that well.

1074
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.320
She's literally like in the middle of painting while she's

1075
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:16.360
talking to him on the phone.

1076
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:18.119
So Griffin makes his way to the screening of The

1077
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:20.440
Bicycle Thief. He goes into the theater. He's looking around

1078
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.519
and he sees this guy leave as the film's over

1079
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:24.840
with a ponytail. He follows him out, names him as

1080
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:26.880
David Cahan, and he's like, oh, I'm sorry, you have

1081
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:29.559
me mistaken. That's when we see Cahan walk out, played

1082
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:30.440
by Vincent.

1083
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:33.639
Dinafrio damn right, and a young.

1084
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:36.159
Donophrio, Yeah, young Danafrio.

1085
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:40.079
And he introduces himself to Cahan and he's like, oh,

1086
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.480
you know, so your six months passes. Now you want

1087
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.519
to talk to me about my script. He clearly sees

1088
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.280
through his bullshit right away, but.

1089
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:47.679
He's and he's coming at in heart. He's like, no,

1090
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:49.719
I want to hire you to do something, Like I

1091
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.039
want to hire you to write something. I can't guarantee

1092
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.079
anything we'll get made, but we'll work together. Yeah.

1093
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:55.920
And he hasn't even confirmed that he is actually the writer.

1094
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.159
He's just the number one suspect, but he's the writer

1095
00:46:58.280 --> 00:46:59.519
of the postcards postcards.

1096
00:46:59.599 --> 00:46:59.880
Yeah.

1097
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:03.559
So through conversation, they go to a bar and that's

1098
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:05.880
when he tries to pitch him one more time. He's like,

1099
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:07.199
you know, hey, I'll buy the I'll buy the script

1100
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:08.960
from you. I can't promise it'll get made. And he's like,

1101
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.880
you know, I see right through you, dude, Like why

1102
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.519
are you doing this? Like why are you chasing me?

1103
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:15.599
Like you didn't even want to come see the bicycle Thief?

1104
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:17.079
Like you clearly had other motives to be there.

1105
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:19.880
He mentions like I saw you come in. Yeah, like

1106
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.599
in the last five minutes you tripped over my foot. Yeah.

1107
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:24.800
So he's like, you're you're still on my list. Nothing's

1108
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:26.280
going to change, and he gets up and leave, so

1109
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:28.599
Griffin follows him out, and Griffin goes to his car

1110
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.840
and we see cahan is right by the car in

1111
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.880
an alley way pissing, and Cahane comes at him full full.

1112
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:39.239
Boar, starts really yelling at him and starts saying, basically

1113
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:41.159
saying that that guy what was his name, that's coming

1114
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:43.599
to Larry Levy, that Larry Levy is taking over. And

1115
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:45.119
he's like, how do you know that? Why you said

1116
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.039
He's like, read the trades marriage, dude, you're out, Larry

1117
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:48.679
Levy's in.

1118
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:50.239
Then he mocks and he's like, hey, can I bar

1119
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:51.079
your cellular phone?

1120
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.079
He acts like he's calling Levy and just starts bad

1121
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:55.360
mouthing him and basically saying like, you know you're never

1122
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:56.199
gonna be anything.

1123
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:57.960
You know, I'm a writer. What do you still have?

1124
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:01.039
Which is one of my favorite moments in the film

1125
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:02.920
because he's like, you know, hey, I can write, what

1126
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:03.920
can can you.

1127
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:06.360
Do so Griffin trying to reason with them, He goes

1128
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.840
to his car and that's when Cahane swings his corridor

1129
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:11.119
over and knocks him over into the side. Like what

1130
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:15.519
would you call it? Like a gulch, A gulch. I'm like,

1131
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:17.519
I can't think of a word at all.

1132
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.159
No, I really can't, Potato, shut up, I'm just giving

1133
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:24.960
you a word. No, he falls over a there's a

1134
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.480
break in a guard rail. It's it's literally a stair

1135
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.320
concrete staircase that goes downwards. Yeah, I don't know what

1136
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:36.559
he got. It's like an alley, like an alley that

1137
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.840
goes underground, and he falls pretty far.

1138
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:40.840
Falls far into it and freaks out.

1139
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:42.880
Well, yeah, because he dropped him like a good six

1140
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:46.840
feet onto concrete. Although they didn't put a sound effect

1141
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:48.960
in when he falls, which I thought was really weird.

1142
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:49.599
Is odd.

1143
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.840
Uh So yeah, he pushes He pushes him, but then

1144
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:55.800
realizes that he accidently made him fall, like this guardrail

1145
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:58.239
was missing a piece, so he just falls right off

1146
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:02.079
and goes right down into this like concrete space.

1147
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:04.320
Some water is filled in, like there's a huge puddle

1148
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:06.280
down there, and so he goes down to check on

1149
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.599
him and that's when Griffin just takes his moment and

1150
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.000
just starts beating the shit out of him, putting his

1151
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:12.840
head into the puddle, and he's just like, you know,

1152
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.360
you're not gonna tell anybody, like basically, keep it to yourself,

1153
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:18.360
Keep it to yourself, holds him down until the bubble

1154
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:19.039
stops coming up.

1155
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.079
Not entirely, not entirely, no, no, no. As he leaves,

1156
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:23.719
he leaves him with his face in the water.

1157
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:24.519
Yeah.

1158
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.119
And then as he's about to actually leave, he notices

1159
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:28.880
like he has not lifted his head up out of

1160
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.119
the water. So he comes over there. Homie is dead.

1161
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.639
He's dead. So David Kahane is dead at this point.

1162
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.119
So seeing his handprint on the car, he'd go ahead,

1163
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.119
takes advantage of the moment and grabs his wallet, takes

1164
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.239
the cash out basically stage as a mugging, smashing his

1165
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:44.360
passenger window of his car.

1166
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.880
Yeah, which because to get rid of his fingerprints.

1167
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:49.199
And just leaving him directly there. So he goes to leave,

1168
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:50.800
and then that's the end of David Kane.

1169
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.760
Yeah. It was a brief but powerful cameo cameo.

1170
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:59.159
Indeed, so we here echoes across a boardroom as we

1171
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.280
see Bonnie and Reggie and the rest of the crew

1172
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:03.920
in Levinson's office. They're discussing events and everything, and that's

1173
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.360
when Celia goes to Levinson, who is outside the office,

1174
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.360
and she's like, hey, I know that Griffin's not here,

1175
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:10.360
but we really need to start this meeting. So that's

1176
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:12.000
when they go in to start the meeting. We see

1177
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.000
Levinson sit down and in the window behind him, Griffin's

1178
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:15.519
car pulls up.

1179
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.159
He apologizes for being late.

1180
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:19.119
Jan hands him a big package, but he gives it

1181
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:21.519
back to her, so then he joins the meeting, introduces

1182
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:23.480
Griffin to Larry, and he states that he got out

1183
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:25.280
of Fox a week early and now he is on

1184
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:28.000
board with them. So officially, Larry Baby is on the set.

1185
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.840
Oh yes, well he's on the lot on the lot. Yeah, yeah.

1186
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.239
So Larry comments on it's preposterous that they're spending millions

1187
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:36.119
and millions of dollars on screenplay when they could.

1188
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.360
Just come up with the stories themselves.

1189
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:43.119
It's a pretty it's a pretty perfect scene about like

1190
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:48.280
just how dickish, Yeah, these types of studio people can be.

1191
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:50.719
Because he's literally like, why are we paying writers for ideas?

1192
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:53.320
Hand me that newspaper read me a story. Yeah, So

1193
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.360
they read like the headline of a news story. And

1194
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:57.320
then he just says like, oh, it'll be a tear jerker,

1195
00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:59.199
the kind of thing this guy would direct about this

1196
00:50:59.239 --> 00:50:59.519
and this.

1197
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:02.440
They go around the table like three times.

1198
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And and but as they're doing that,

1199
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.239
the paper gets in front of our homeboy Griffin, who

1200
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:13.360
sees the headline of man murdered in Pasadena.

1201
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:13.599
In Pasadena Alley.

1202
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.519
Yeah, so he knows.

1203
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.559
Immediately that the body's been found. He knows that they've

1204
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:19.880
identified him. And Griffin also makes a joke. He's like,

1205
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:21.320
you know, well, if we're gonna get rid of the writers,

1206
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:22.559
you know, I guess this is could just buasy and

1207
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:23.320
now we just need to start.

1208
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.400
Getting rid of the actors and directors. He was everything

1209
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:26.800
out was.

1210
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:27.880
He said, if we could just get rid of the

1211
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:31.039
actors' directors, we really have So we beyond to somebody,

1212
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.440
which is so good. We beyondo something.

1213
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.079
So Griffin returns to his office, he finds Walter waiting

1214
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:39.599
on him, and Walter brings up David Kahane talking about

1215
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:41.400
his murder. And then Walter's like, let me give you

1216
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.519
a scenario here he goes, you know, basically accuses Griffin.

1217
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.079
He's like, you know, you were mad at this guy.

1218
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.280
You drove out to Pasadena, you confronted him, he wasn't happy.

1219
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:51.280
You know, one thing led to another and he accidentally

1220
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:52.599
killed him, Like it just happens.

1221
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:54.639
Yeah, shit like that happens every day.

1222
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:56.119
So then Gryffin's like, you know, I don't think it's

1223
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:57.760
how it went down. He's like, what did the police think?

1224
00:51:57.800 --> 00:51:59.960
And you know, Walter states he thinks it's a botched robbery.

1225
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:01.760
Griffin states that he didn't kill him, but he does

1226
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:03.679
then admit to meeting him, and Walter's like, you know,

1227
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:05.559
why did you lie to me? And he's like, man,

1228
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:07.239
I'm not in a good place right now. This is

1229
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.400
not a good time. Yeah, there's a lot of shit

1230
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:11.719
going on, and Walter questions him about the girlfriend. He's like,

1231
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:14.079
you know, well, did you know June by chance? Like

1232
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:16.400
did you know who she is? And he kind of

1233
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.039
denies everything, but he comments on acting like you're somebody

1234
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:21.840
that's acting guilty. Just as Griffin's facts in the office

1235
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.400
starts up with another message from the same guy that

1236
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:27.920
says surprise, so Kahane was not the postcard writer.

1237
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:30.719
No he was not. No, he was not the facts

1238
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.039
machine foo in this film, Yes, car Fax machine Foo.

1239
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:35.039
Oh god. Yeah.

1240
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:36.400
So we cut to Kahane's funeral.

1241
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.840
We're seeing a shot which I love this opening shot

1242
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.719
because we see a giant deadfish in this pond and

1243
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:44.480
all the other fish are just feeding on it.

1244
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.000
Yeah, it's very symbolic, very symbolic.

1245
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:49.519
We see June sitting in the front row as Griffin approaches.

1246
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:51.880
We see a guy who's dressed like a Haynes giving

1247
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:54.480
a speech of like one of Kahane's last writings that

1248
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.440
he have that he didn't finish. And then we also

1249
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:58.920
see another guy approaching him the side. So June walks

1250
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.119
past Griffin notice him and she's like, you know, do

1251
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:03.079
I know you? Like you're not a writer? And he

1252
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.360
introduces himself as the guy that she was on the

1253
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.239
phone with the other night, right, yeah, and she states

1254
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.199
that he's the only person that she knows. Here. He

1255
00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:12.239
shares this condolences, stating that you know, Cahane was a

1256
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:15.039
very talented writer, and June disagrees, staying that she thinks

1257
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:17.079
that he was the most untalented writer.

1258
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:21.039
Oh who doesn't love a fine woman? Like that.

1259
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:22.880
She throws shade pretty quickly to him.

1260
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.639
Oh yeah, without a doubt, so he'll remember he referred

1261
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.039
to Kahan, referred to her as the ice Queen.

1262
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:28.480
As the ice Queen.

1263
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.519
Yes, yes, so he apologizes. Also that he was the

1264
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:33.400
last person to see him alive, and June states that

1265
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:35.360
she doesn't feel bad because she relates this back to

1266
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.719
her parents dead, that she wasn't sad, she just immediately

1267
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:38.639
felt the absence.

1268
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:42.199
Sounds to me like she's cold blood.

1269
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:44.320
So she asked Griffin if he would take her home.

1270
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:46.519
Griffin notices the other gentleman off to the side as

1271
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:48.119
he helps June into her car, and that's when we

1272
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:50.360
find Griffin and June at her house, admiring her art,

1273
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:52.480
and she states that she has no gallery. She just

1274
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.920
does the art because she enjoys it, and also none

1275
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:56.559
of the pieces are ever finished in her eyes.

1276
00:53:58.239 --> 00:53:59.760
Yeah, she sounds like an insufferable.

1277
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:03.280
So she comments on the police talking to her about him,

1278
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:05.079
asking him why he was meeting with David and why

1279
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:07.360
it was so urgent. He comments that he really liked

1280
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.159
his script and lies, and he also wanted to pitch

1281
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:12.719
an upper ending because apparently David's original script had a

1282
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:14.760
very downer ending, which does not work in Hollywood.

1283
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.119
No, it sure doesn't.

1284
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:19.519
June comments that he was never one for happy ending.

1285
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:21.480
She takes a couple of polaroids of Griffin, telling him

1286
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.079
that she might paint him into one of her paintings

1287
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.800
as an Icelandic warrior but a thief of fire, and

1288
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:27.960
he probably wouldn't like that because as a studio head,

1289
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:31.280
he wouldn't, you know, like the fact that a thief

1290
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:34.119
or a person of criminal behavior is one that is

1291
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:36.679
being I guess appreciated as.

1292
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.559
A hero I mean in Hollywood.

1293
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:42.239
So Griffin questions, should thieves pay for their crimes?

1294
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.519
And June questions, isn't knowing you committed the crimes suffering.

1295
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.199
Enough, isn't it?

1296
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:51.880
And Griffin calls her a pragmatic anarchist, which.

1297
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:55.840
I mean, I stand by insufferable true, but that works too.

1298
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.360
We cut back to Griffin's office where he meets Detective

1299
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.480
Susan Avery played by Whoopi Goldberg with Walter and she's

1300
00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:04.400
admiring an oscar that's on display in the office. Griffin

1301
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:06.280
welcomes her into the office and they sit down and

1302
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.599
she he apologizes for not contacting her sooner and she questions,

1303
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:11.199
you know, why didn't you contact me, like you know

1304
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:12.920
that you were a suspect, Like, you know, why didn't

1305
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:14.679
you reach out to us? And he's like, you know, oh,

1306
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:16.199
it was just a bad time, and also, you know,

1307
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.000
I didn't know what to say. So she asked what

1308
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.679
he met with Cahane about, and that's when he tells,

1309
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:22.880
you know, the screenplay that he wanted to produce, and

1310
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.159
Avery asked him more questions about a personal nature of

1311
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:27.599
knowing if he knew anything about Cahane, and he denies

1312
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:29.639
that he did, and that's when she starts to get

1313
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:32.079
a little uneasy with him and questions if he saw

1314
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:34.360
cahan in the parking lot that night, and he comments

1315
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:36.199
that no, he drives a range Rover, so he parks

1316
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:38.800
it on the street because ali's are dangerous, and she goes, oh,

1317
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:40.320
so if you're driving a shitty car, you would have

1318
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:41.559
parked in the back, and he's like, if I was

1319
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:43.639
driving a shitty car, I might not have been alive

1320
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:48.000
the next day. Yeah, So immediately does not set well

1321
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.639
with Detective Avery, and that's when he goes to watch

1322
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.599
dailies as he's discussing things with Levinson at the screening room,

1323
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:55.880
Griffin gets a call for a dinner meeting with a

1324
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:57.960
Joe Gillis and he says he's not familiar with that name,

1325
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:00.559
and Levinson's like, oh, well that was Oh I can't

1326
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:03.679
think of the actor's name. Uh, one of the actors

1327
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:05.800
from Sunset Boulevard. That was an alias he went by

1328
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:06.320
in the film.

1329
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:06.920
Okay.

1330
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.239
So immediately he knows that this is possibly the post

1331
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:10.559
most likely the postcard guy.

1332
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:11.920
So he goes to the meeting and he.

1333
00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:14.639
Runs into Malcolm McDowell, who greets him and he's like, hey,

1334
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.000
next time you want to say something behind my back,

1335
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:17.840
say it to my face.

1336
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:20.280
Face.

1337
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:24.519
Yeah, you Hollywood types are all alike. So Griffin is

1338
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:26.719
then spotted by Andy Savella played by the late Great

1339
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:30.039
Dean Stockwell, who introduces him to Andy McDowell and Tom Oakley,

1340
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.159
and we also see a gentleman. The gentleman from the

1341
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:34.159
Funeral has followed him to the bar as well, and

1342
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:36.639
Savella wants to give him a pitch that Oakley has

1343
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.599
and Griffin states, like, he's got a meeting, he doesn't

1344
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.599
have time. So we see Griffin go to a table

1345
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.719
by the pool. Savella follows him out and basically makes

1346
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:45.440
even think that like he set up the appointment when

1347
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:47.039
he confesses like, you know, no, like I don't know

1348
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:49.800
what you're talking about, Like you're just here, I'm seizing opportunity.

1349
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.440
Yeah, he starts bringing up postcards and he's just like,

1350
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:53.440
has no idea what he's talking about.

1351
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:55.159
It, has no idea what he's talking about. So Savella

1352
00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:58.039
comes out spooking Andy. He's got a great pitch reintroducing

1353
00:56:58.079 --> 00:56:59.880
Tom Oakley, and that's when we get this pitch.

1354
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.679
Base about a.

1355
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:05.280
Prisoner on death row that is has a DA that

1356
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.599
she's fallen in love with, and the DA thinks that

1357
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:10.000
she's innocent, and a whole fiasco happens.

1358
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:14.239
There's just a huge it's it's a touching initially racial story. Yeah,

1359
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:17.000
although that goes away really fast when he gets made.

1360
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:23.679
It's a it's an intense, uh racial drama about the

1361
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.960
death penalty and justice and all that shit.

1362
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:28.719
We hear an opening about how they're standing in the

1363
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:32.719
rain and they have camels on their umbrellas and Japanese

1364
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:35.760
lanterns and all this stuff, and he here's this pitch

1365
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:37.960
and he's like, you know, call me tomorrow. We'll absolutely

1366
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:39.800
talk about this. But the one thing that I do

1367
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:42.320
want to mention is Tom Oakley is adamant that there

1368
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:44.400
are no stars in this picture. This is not a

1369
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:45.159
Hollywood picture.

1370
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:47.920
We get unknowns only.

1371
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:49.719
And it's a very sad ending that the woman does

1372
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.280
not survive the death penal. No Hollywood ending, no Hollywood

1373
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:52.679
ending at all.

1374
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.239
And they're calling it habeas corpus.

1375
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:57.480
Habeas corpus baby. I mean, it just flows right off

1376
00:57:57.519 --> 00:57:59.599
the tongue. It's the rural jurorm.

1377
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.320
That's when Griffin at the table gets a post car

1378
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:04.320
with a death valley and a rattlesnake on it, and

1379
00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:06.480
in bold letters it says, I told you not to

1380
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:08.800
come alone. So Gryffin excuses himself and tells them to

1381
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:10.880
call the studio tomorrow. He gets his car from the

1382
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:13.039
ballet begins to drive it down sunset, and that's when

1383
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:13.920
his car phone rings.

1384
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.199
But it's actually his fax machine in his car.

1385
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:19.639
That was the first thing is said, like, is that

1386
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:21.039
a fax machine in his car?

1387
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.599
There's a fax machine in his cars? So the fax

1388
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:26.000
prints out and states, look under your raincoat. So he

1389
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:28.119
picks his raincoat up to find a box label don't

1390
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:30.119
open til Christmas. As he lifts the lid and finds

1391
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.320
a live rattlesnake inside the box.

1392
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:38.280
Yeah, which, by the way, does elevate this beyond adorable harassment.

1393
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:38.760
Yeah.

1394
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:40.800
I mean that could kill I could kill him, But

1395
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:44.719
luckily Homie is just enraged. He pulls the car over,

1396
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.159
grabs a stick of some sort it's his umbrella. Oh,

1397
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:49.639
it's his umbrella, yeah, and just beats that snake to death.

1398
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.239
Yeah, strips his coat off, beats the snake to death,

1399
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:53.639
and then pulls the snake out of the car, gets

1400
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:55.760
back in the car and drives goes to June's house

1401
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:57.800
and she sees that he is clearly distressed, so she

1402
00:58:57.800 --> 00:58:59.599
pours him a drink, and that's when we see the

1403
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:01.559
June painting him like she said she was going to.

1404
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:04.079
He comments on stick scared the shit out of him,

1405
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:06.000
and she's like, you know what happened to night and

1406
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.199
she that's when he tells her that, you know, it

1407
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:09.880
isn't easy for him, and he tells her that he

1408
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:11.599
came close to dying tonight and all he could think

1409
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:14.199
about was her, confessing that she has been the only

1410
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:16.360
thing on his mind and since the first time they

1411
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:18.559
spoke that he was outside the window, confessing that he

1412
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:20.599
was watching her the first time they had the phone conversation.

1413
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:24.360
Yeah, she's okay with like a lot of fucked up things.

1414
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.239
She gets very moved by finding out that he was

1415
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:27.960
that he was there.

1416
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.840
Yeah, I don't uh, I don't get it.

1417
00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:34.360
So we see June reacting flattered as she asked, you know,

1418
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:35.519
and does he want to make love to her? At

1419
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:37.159
Griffin states that he does want to make love to her,

1420
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:38.880
and she comments that it's too soon, but it is

1421
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:41.800
strange how things happen, but she would go anywhere with

1422
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:44.000
him if he just ask, adding they mustn'thurry this, and

1423
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:45.840
tells him that he better leave because she thinks she's

1424
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:47.880
going to cry. So she opens the door for him,

1425
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:49.679
telling him to go home, get some sleep and call

1426
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:52.079
her to invite her out for a proper date tomorrow.

1427
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.519
Ah, because she's a right good lady.

1428
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:58.159
So the next morning, Savella and Oakley and Gryffin's office

1429
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:00.880
and they call Larry Levy Levy on his car phone

1430
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:03.119
and do the pitch to him over the phone. Larry's like,

1431
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:05.159
you know, hey, Griffin, take me off speaker and he's like,

1432
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:06.280
you know, what do you think about this? Thing with

1433
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.719
no stars, and Larry is immediately won over. But he

1434
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:11.280
asked about the stars. And that's when Griffin's like, you know, well, Levinson,

1435
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:13.840
his first two really popular pictures had no stars in

1436
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.920
it made a bunch of money. So Leevy is like,

1437
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:17.719
all right, let's do this, like you know, cal Levinson,

1438
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:19.920
let's get this greenlit. Let's let's act on this quick.

1439
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:21.960
And that's when he's like, you know, can you call him?

1440
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:23.800
And he's like, actually, on my way to an AA meeting.

1441
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:25.719
He goes, I know you were an alcoholic. He goes, well,

1442
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:27.480
I'm not. It's just that's where all the deals are

1443
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:27.960
being made.

1444
01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:31.239
Yeah. No, that's a great line. But and for real,

1445
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.599
what was the guy the guy who ran Disney through

1446
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:40.880
the nineties who no Touchstone and everything? Oh damn Itisner?

1447
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:42.840
Mike Eisner, Michael Eisner?

1448
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:43.719
Was it? Michael Eisner?

1449
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:44.599
Michael Well.

1450
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:49.639
He joked that they cast Touchstone pictures out the back

1451
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:53.559
of the Betty Ford Test because that's like they would

1452
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:55.760
They would be like, oh, Robin Williams just got out

1453
01:00:55.760 --> 01:01:00.679
of rehab, He'll do it half his rate. Good Morning Vietnam.

1454
01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:03.400
That was like a real thing, especially in the late

1455
01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:05.840
eighties and early nineties that it was just you would

1456
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.840
go to where somebody had just gotten out of rehab

1457
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:13.679
and you'd make a deal with them, which I don't know.

1458
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:15.000
I don't think that happens anymore.

1459
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:18.559
I think it absolutely does. Are you kidding?

1460
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:21.440
Oh wait, yeah no, I had to think. Yeah, no,

1461
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:22.280
it absolutely does.

1462
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:26.800
I mean I think it's just different now, yeah, much different.

1463
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.679
But no, it's just like when they're at their most vulnerable,

1464
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:33.800
it's like, hey, wouldn't you like to work again? And

1465
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:36.119
on one hand they are helping you, but on the

1466
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:38.440
other hand, it's like, so, why'd you become a drug addict?

1467
01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:40.519
Hollywood was stressful? Want more?

1468
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:54.599
Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back

1469
01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:55.880
to Do You Even?

1470
01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:57.079
Movie?

1471
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:02.039
So Larry is in on all the risk of a

1472
01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:04.559
reality picture. So Levinson states that you know, they have

1473
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:05.760
a meeting with him, and he states, you know, if

1474
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:07.800
we're gonna do this, is there is there fucking in

1475
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:09.079
the picture. There needs to be sex, Like if we're

1476
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:10.800
gonna have a prison drama, there has to be set.

1477
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:13.440
If it's gonna be so dry, it's gotta have some

1478
01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:13.760
of that.

1479
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.239
So he offers Larry the picture as Bonnie tries to

1480
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:18.480
defend it as Griffin's project, but Griffin is fine giving

1481
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.679
it up because he unveiled in a previous scene that

1482
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:23.159
his idea is that he's gonna give this project to Levy.

1483
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:25.199
Levy is going to fall behind on it, and then

1484
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:27.039
Griffin's gonna come in and basically save.

1485
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:28.320
The boy, and they're gonna do it in New York,

1486
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:29.239
right in New York.

1487
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:32.840
So yeah, yeah, So he actually sends Bonnie to New

1488
01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:35.800
York because she needs to get a book optioned for

1489
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:38.360
a movie. So Bonnie is questioning why, you know, is

1490
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:40.079
she giving the product? Why is he giving the project over?

1491
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:42.119
And also why he s enter to New York? Questioning,

1492
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:44.559
you know, is is he seeing somebody else? So he

1493
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:45.960
tries to get rid of her, gives her a peck

1494
01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:47.719
on the cheek, but she is just not having any

1495
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:49.440
with his but she has to go to New York anyway.

1496
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.719
So that's when we also see that we are going

1497
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.400
to a gallon now and we see celebs out.

1498
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:57.880
The ass, we see share, we see Garry Bucy.

1499
01:02:57.639 --> 01:02:58.239
With the mullet.

1500
01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:00.639
Yeah, you see with a mullet. This one. I was

1501
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:02.159
not expecting Elliott.

1502
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:04.920
Gold Nick Nolty, so Griffin shows up and he has

1503
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:08.000
Junas's date. Levinson goes up giving a speech about how

1504
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:10.119
they're doing a huge donation to the museum and this

1505
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:12.320
is a big turning point for the studio. He invites

1506
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:14.159
Griffin up to give a speech, as we see more

1507
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:16.800
celebs and attendance, but also the man from the funeral

1508
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:19.280
is also at the gallow as well. Griffin concludes his

1509
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:21.960
speech by saying that movies are now art more than ever,

1510
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.599
and he is complimented as he sits down by Cher

1511
01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:27.119
and Larry, but he's he's definitely out of touch with

1512
01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:27.559
this moment.

1513
01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:29.159
He's still a little on edge.

1514
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:30.199
Yeah, I would agree.

1515
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:33.000
So he receives then another postcard, tries to wave it off,

1516
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:34.599
taking June to the dance floor, and that's when we

1517
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.480
see a limo pull up later, dropping Griffin and June

1518
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:39.800
off outside of June's house, and we also see that

1519
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.159
the man from the funeral is now tailing them and

1520
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.440
Gryffin asked about coming in and June says not tonight,

1521
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:46.280
but soon as the share a kiss and Griffin says

1522
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:47.159
that he's going to take her.

1523
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:48.239
To Alcapoco this weekend.

1524
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:49.039
Yeah he is.

1525
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.320
They're gonna get away, and that's when we see the

1526
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.280
man the next morning in front of Griffin's house. As

1527
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:55.400
Gryffin's getting ready to go into his car, he checks

1528
01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:58.320
his mailbox. The man does, and that's when Griffin goes

1529
01:03:58.360 --> 01:03:59.840
out to the front gate, and that's when the man's

1530
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.679
ups out, revealing that he is actually a police as

1531
01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:06.599
he shows his badge a police, a policeman, a detective,

1532
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:09.079
a detective policeman.

1533
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:14.000
Was his last name with policeman, detective, policeman, detective policeman,

1534
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:14.639
any law.

1535
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:18.519
So he's introduced himself as Detective DeLong Prix and that

1536
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:20.800
is played by the great Lyle love It.

1537
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:21.679
Ah.

1538
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:24.239
Yes, I hadn't seen Lyle love It in forever.

1539
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:25.039
In a while. Yeah.

1540
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:27.000
So he invites him to the station to look at mugshots,

1541
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.280
asking him to fall into Pasadena and also please put

1542
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:30.000
on his seat belt.

1543
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:31.480
Yeah, well he's a cop.

1544
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:34.320
So we cut to the police station. Griffin has reintroduced

1545
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.599
to Detective Avery and Griffin questions if there's a break

1546
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:38.800
in the case, and Avery questions, if not, why would

1547
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.039
they bring him here, And that's when DeLong Prix reminds

1548
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:43.159
him of you know, you're looking at mug shots so

1549
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.400
Goldberg shows him the mug shots. But the police station

1550
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:47.480
is just chaotic. There's a whole dialogue going on about

1551
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:50.000
Todd Browning's freaks, about a search for tampons.

1552
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:52.039
Yeah, it's just a whole mess.

1553
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:52.920
It's a whole mess.

1554
01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:55.199
So she questions if he went out with you know,

1555
01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:57.039
if he went out with June, and also he also

1556
01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.079
questions if they have a witness. He confirms he did

1557
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:00.840
go out with June, and Avery questions have they known

1558
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:03.920
each other long? It's a little suspect that he's going

1559
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:06.519
out with the dead man's girlfriend, so quickly you think,

1560
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:09.039
just a little bit, I don't, So he states they

1561
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:11.440
did meet after Kahane's death. She questions if Griffin has

1562
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:14.840
fucked her. This gets him completely. He's offended by this question.

1563
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:16.280
He's like, you know, well, I guess I would answer

1564
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:17.719
that if my lawyer was here, and even my lawyer

1565
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:20.679
was here, I wouldn't answer that. So she questions him

1566
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:23.000
again and that's when he he starts, you know, question

1567
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:24.599
like you know what's going on here? And we end

1568
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:26.719
the scene really weird with everybody laughing at him at

1569
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.320
the station, and he's just paranoid.

1570
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:30.559
Yeah, it's really weird. But he was like crazy jumping,

1571
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:33.199
crazy jumping, which is weird. It's almost like he murdered

1572
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:34.199
the guy murdered somebody.

1573
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:34.719
It's weird.

1574
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:36.840
So we next sek Griffin in his office as Walter

1575
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:39.039
tells him to get a good lawyer, especially if he

1576
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:41.519
went to Pasadena with the intent to kill. Walter also

1577
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:43.679
finds out that he's got a plan trip to pul Tavirarta,

1578
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:47.599
now calling it risky, and Jan questions why he's going there,

1579
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:49.840
as Griffin comments, because Larry could take the office in

1580
01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:51.719
three days. That's why you know it's risky for him

1581
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:54.480
to leave right now, and Bonnie returns and states that

1582
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:56.559
she got the book. Ask Griffin, you know if he's

1583
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:59.159
going to Mexico this weekend because she heard commenting that,

1584
01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:01.920
you know, he took his girlfriend or is June to

1585
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.880
a party with hundreds of several of her closest friends.

1586
01:06:04.920 --> 01:06:06.400
So how did she think that he wasn't going to

1587
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.320
find out. So it's at this point then that we

1588
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:11.199
see that they are kind of just on the outs,

1589
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:13.679
like Griffin is really being cold to her, and that's

1590
01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:16.039
when comments that you know she got the book and

1591
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:17.840
also tells them to have a good trip before we

1592
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:20.480
see her storming out. We see Griffin arrive at the airport,

1593
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:23.880
but he spots Detective long Free also at the airport

1594
01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:27.400
now with police ye watch, so he makes a lie

1595
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:29.280
at that he forgot his passport and instead they're going

1596
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.199
to drive two hours out into the desert to a

1597
01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:33.920
hot springs resort that he has. June questions if they're hiding,

1598
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:37.239
and he comments that they're hiding from everybody. So we

1599
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:38.920
see them driving through the desert. They arrive at the

1600
01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:40.760
Hot Springs resort and we see them sitting down to

1601
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.400
a nice dinner. June has clearly went over and asking,

1602
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:45.400
you know, do places like this really nice? Like this

1603
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:46.760
really exists, and he says only.

1604
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:50.920
In the movies. So romantic cringe.

1605
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:54.840
So Griffin explains it's all about the calls and the pitches,

1606
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:57.679
basically as they go out to side and they're dancing,

1607
01:06:57.679 --> 01:06:59.079
and she wants to know more about like what he

1608
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:00.679
does for the movie business, and he says, you know,

1609
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:02.440
it's all about calls and pitches, and they only have

1610
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:04.519
one thing from him. They want him to say yes,

1611
01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:06.880
but the studio can only say yes to twelve pictures

1612
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:08.920
a year, which makes it very difficult.

1613
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:10.760
That's that's rooky numbers.

1614
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.000
And they hear fifty thousand stories a year, so it's

1615
01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.119
hard to sometimes, you know, be a nice guy. And

1616
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:17.280
because of that, he makes enemies, adding that David was

1617
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:19.599
apparently an enemy of his, and she says, well, what

1618
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:24.920
makes a successful movie? He says, suspense, laughter, violence, hope, heart, nudity, sex,

1619
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:29.599
and happy endings. And that's when June questions, you know

1620
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:32.760
what about reality? And we cut to probably the steamiest

1621
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:34.079
love scene of the entire film.

1622
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:37.800
We literally mean like body heat bodies, because it's the

1623
01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:41.920
entire scene is just their faces mushing into each other

1624
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:46.199
and heavy breathing into each other's faces. Yeah, as they're

1625
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:53.800
making love. But then he confesses to killing during the

1626
01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:55.400
love scene, and she's just fine with you.

1627
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:56.000
She's fine with it.

1628
01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:58.199
She even tells him that she loves him, and she

1629
01:07:58.519 --> 01:07:59.760
tells him and he doesn't have to say it, but

1630
01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:01.800
he can. He telling her, and so he confesses and

1631
01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:03.159
she's like, that's fine, I love you.

1632
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:05.760
So the next day they're in a mud bath together.

1633
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:11.079
Of course they are, and did I mention just hainus shrew.

1634
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:11.880
Yes, yes you did.

1635
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.960
Okay, So Griffin also gets a call from Dick Mellon,

1636
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.279
who tells him that Levinson was fired and he's packing

1637
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:21.560
up his office. Reggie went home with the clap and

1638
01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:24.840
that he also needs to question him about Khane, asking

1639
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:26.520
him why he didn't tell him, and he's like, well,

1640
01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:28.159
I tried to tell you, and he's like, apparently didn't

1641
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.399
try hard enough. Anyway, you need to be back here

1642
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:31.920
in four hours and go to the police station in

1643
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:34.359
Pasadena for a lineup because they have a witness from

1644
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:35.560
the night Khan was murdered.

1645
01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:38.600
Yeah, they do, or somewhat so something.

1646
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:41.680
We cut to the police station and we meet mister

1647
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:44.079
Gerard and we also see Walter is there. Gerard is

1648
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:46.199
his lawyer, appointed by Dick Mellon, and Gerard tells him

1649
01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:47.880
there's nothing to worry about, as the woman is old,

1650
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:49.960
she lived across the street, but she can't see very well.

1651
01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:51.840
So then we see Griffin take his place in the

1652
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:54.319
lineup with six other guys, one of which is Detective

1653
01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:55.039
too Long to.

1654
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:59.399
Fore and literally Lyle Lovett's in there, Lyle love.

1655
01:08:59.319 --> 01:08:59.760
It's in there.

1656
01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:01.560
So we see the woman come in and she is

1657
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:03.760
coached by Detective Avery, and then that's when the woman

1658
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:07.199
mistakes number three, which is DeLong Pree as the guy

1659
01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:10.560
I knew he was a villain. Detective Avery is not pleased.

1660
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:12.880
Walter and Gerard tell Griffin that he's lucky. He's free

1661
01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:15.279
to go, as the detectives watch him walk away from

1662
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.600
the police station from the top window. We then cut

1663
01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:20.199
to one year later, as we are now inside of prison.

1664
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:23.000
We see a gas chamber, we see Susan Sarandon, we

1665
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:26.039
see Peter Falk and we panned to a cell revealing

1666
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:28.600
Julia Roberts as an inmate with Ray Walston at giving

1667
01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:29.399
her last rites.

1668
01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:32.640
Yeah, so now she's going into the gas chamber. Yes,

1669
01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:36.760
And as the gas chamber fills, Bruce Willis bursts out

1670
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:38.319
with a shotgun.

1671
01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:39.720
Kilsp from ac guard. He burst into the room.

1672
01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:42.399
Shoving guards out of the way, blows open.

1673
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.520
The glass and that's when we cut to a screening

1674
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:49.479
room as we see they are watching this movie, Levy, Bonnie, Shrew, Griffin,

1675
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.720
all of them are watching it. He blows the window out,

1676
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:55.119
saves Julia Roberts and she goes, you know what took

1677
01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:55.560
you so long?

1678
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:56.960
And he goes, traffic was a bitch.

1679
01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:04.600
The end the the Chef's Kiss of how ruined. The

1680
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:08.720
concept is is the traffic was a bit because that's

1681
01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:11.560
so just like, what is this a diehard? Yes, well

1682
01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:15.840
it's supposed to be some like serious emotional film and

1683
01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:19.159
everything they said is not happening.

1684
01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:20.279
It did not happen there.

1685
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:23.159
It's nothing but stars. I mean, I remember when it

1686
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:25.520
cut to the to that scene. I was just like

1687
01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:28.960
Peter Folk. I was like Susan Sarandon and Colomba.

1688
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.439
So immediately the room lights up with applause. But Bonnie

1689
01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.039
cannot believe that Oakley sold out. She comments on you

1690
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:39.039
know you changed the original ending. He's like, well, yeah,

1691
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:40.640
it was a fucking disaster. You don't remember when we

1692
01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:43.159
permme heared it and nobody liked it. We reshot it,

1693
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.399
and now everyone likes it. And Savella is now questioning

1694
01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:48.359
you know who Bonnie is, and Larry Levy is like

1695
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:50.119
you know, oh, Bonnie, like, you know you've crossed the

1696
01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:50.720
line this time.

1697
01:10:51.079 --> 01:10:51.640
Pack your shit.

1698
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:54.039
You're fired, and Bonnie is like, you know you can't

1699
01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:55.479
do this, and he's like no, like I told you,

1700
01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:55.960
you're fired.

1701
01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:57.560
She says fuck you walks out.

1702
01:10:57.800 --> 01:10:59.880
Bonnie walks across the lot, breaking a heel, and she

1703
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.560
enters the office, begs to speak to somebody through Celia,

1704
01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:05.119
and that's when we reveal that Griffin has now taken

1705
01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:06.000
Levinson's job.

1706
01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:07.119
He's the studio head.

1707
01:11:07.199 --> 01:11:09.359
He is the full blown head of the studio.

1708
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:12.000
So Griffin realizes that Leevie fired her. He states that

1709
01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:13.880
he can't see her now and he will get back

1710
01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:15.560
to her. So he leaves the office. Of course, he's

1711
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:17.359
bombarded by Bonnie and he's like, you know, oh, don't

1712
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:19.960
worry about it, you'll land on your feet. Bonnie begs him,

1713
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.039
chases after him, and Gryffin's like, you know, I gotta

1714
01:11:22.079 --> 01:11:23.960
get home until my wife would beat home early. So

1715
01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:26.000
as he's driving home, he gets a call from lev

1716
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:28.239
and Levy is like, hey, man, the screening went well,

1717
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:30.560
but hey, I've got a writer here. I think you

1718
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:32.600
need to hear his pitch. And that's when we hear

1719
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:36.039
the voice of the postcard guy come on the phone. Yeah,

1720
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:38.079
and he states that you know, hey, you know you

1721
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:39.479
remember me. He's like, you know, I was in the

1722
01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:41.920
postcard business. And he's like, yeah, I remember you. He's like,

1723
01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:43.279
you know what's going on. He's like, well, you know,

1724
01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:45.439
I got a script for you, and he pitches the

1725
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:47.560
entire plot of The Player.

1726
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.119
Well kind of. Yeah. Basically, he pitches exactly what happened

1727
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:51.840
to what happened there?

1728
01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:54.680
Yeah, sure that that he murders a screenwriter, he gets

1729
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:56.840
away with it, lives happily ever after. And that's when

1730
01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.039
he pulls into his his new house. We see that

1731
01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:01.159
he's married June. Now, who I think is pregnant.

1732
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:07.079
You think June's pregnant. Maybe she just likes to play dodgeball,

1733
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:09.159
but the ball's got to be warm first, so she's

1734
01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:13.000
using a pregnant Now June's pregnant, now very clearly pure.

1735
01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:14.760
It comes out of the house and Griffin ends his call.

1736
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:16.079
He's like, you know, what do you call this? And

1737
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:18.119
he's like, oh, I call it. The player hangs up

1738
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:19.399
with him. He's like, oh the Player.

1739
01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:19.960
I like that.

1740
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.239
Well, there was one important element I want to bring

1741
01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:24.720
up about that conversation, yeah, is when he says, like

1742
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:27.279
it has a happy end, happy ending, and he says,

1743
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:31.560
can you guarantee that? And he says, if you buy

1744
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:34.359
the pitch, yes, yes, which is a clear I'm not

1745
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:36.239
going to blackmail. He's not going to blackmail him as

1746
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:39.039
long as they do business with him. So I just

1747
01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:41.159
want to mention that because I really like that exchange.

1748
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:43.359
So he says, I like that title. June comes out

1749
01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:46.079
and goes, what took you so long? And Griffin goes,

1750
01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:49.399
traffic was a bitch? The end that is the player

1751
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:51.359
from nineteen ninety two.

1752
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.920
I don't hate this movie. Yeah, but I hate this No,

1753
01:12:57.119 --> 01:13:00.439
I'm just kidding, but no, but I just felt like

1754
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:04.800
all of the intrigue and excitement that we got from

1755
01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:08.880
the postcards, Yeah, it was kind of wasted.

1756
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:11.920
I mean, I'm not gonna say you're wrong, because you're not.

1757
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:16.720
Just what I like about the ending is that it's

1758
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:17.640
fucking bold.

1759
01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:21.399
Oh it's very bold. Yeah, well, I mean not as

1760
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:23.520
bold as another movie I love about Show Busy. Yes,

1761
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.720
that's fair too, that's yeah.

1762
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:27.319
So would you like to know some notes about the

1763
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:28.560
movie and some fun facts?

1764
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:28.960
Pass?

1765
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:30.920
Too bad? What do you think the budget was.

1766
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:38.439
The five range eight million dollars? Oh okay?

1767
01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:39.479
Opening?

1768
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:42.000
It opens April twelfth, nineteen ninety two, and makes three

1769
01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:44.319
hundred and two thousand at the box office. Opening weekend

1770
01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.199
box office totally takes in twenty one million.

1771
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.720
So it's a pretty good hit for a movie that size.

1772
01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:51.159
It's not a bad hit. Or at least as close

1773
01:13:51.199 --> 01:13:51.560
to a hit.

1774
01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:54.760
Writer Michael Tolkien got the idea for his novel driving

1775
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:56.800
Down Sunset Boulevard, and he thought up a serial killer

1776
01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:58.199
in la who targeted.

1777
01:13:57.880 --> 01:13:59.960
Unproduced screenwriters, coming up with the first set.

1778
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.640
Just as Griffin suspected, there was a meeting in Levinson's

1779
01:14:02.680 --> 01:14:03.439
office without him.

1780
01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:05.960
Oh wow, okay on his drive.

1781
01:14:06.039 --> 01:14:08.760
Tolkien originally had no intention to allow the adapting of

1782
01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:10.960
the book to screen, as he wrote it to basically

1783
01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:12.560
distance himself from his work in Hollywood.

1784
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:13.640
That was when he wrote, then.

1785
01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:16.720
That's really interesting, yeah, okay, But they quickly found out

1786
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:19.560
that studio executives also doubted the appeal of a narrative

1787
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:21.359
about Hollywood, so he thought the movie was never going

1788
01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:23.720
to get made. Some years pass and Kerry Broke Hall,

1789
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.239
the CEO of Avenue Pictures, rejects the script twice in

1790
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:29.039
nineteen eighty nine and nineteen ninety. However, in ninety one,

1791
01:14:29.159 --> 01:14:33.079
after witnessing Altman's work on the British film Vincent and Theo,

1792
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:36.079
Broke Call approached Altman, who eagerly embraced the project.

1793
01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:38.560
Wow. I think it's hilarious that he was like, I'm

1794
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:40.680
going to write a novel. Fuck Hollywood, Yeah, Hollywood's like

1795
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:42.359
we might make that so.

1796
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.960
Altman also successfully persuaded a plethora of A list actors

1797
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.199
to make cameo appearances in the film based on his

1798
01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:51.239
esteem reputation in the industry. These stars agreed to participate

1799
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:54.159
without reviewing the script, and contributed their union scale salaries

1800
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:55.800
for one day of filming to the motion picture in

1801
01:14:55.840 --> 01:14:59.000
television country house and hospital or retirement community for the

1802
01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:00.000
industry professionals.

1803
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:02.680
Wow, well, that's nice of them for once.

1804
01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:15.319
Do You Even Movie will be right back. Welcome back

1805
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:17.079
to Do You Even Movie.

1806
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.560
The handwriting on the ominous death threat letters and postcards

1807
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.199
received by Griffin Mills belongs to none other than director

1808
01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:29.000
Robert Altman, who took great pleasure in writing those notes.

1809
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:29.880
I believe it.

1810
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:33.079
The writer pitching The Graduate Part two to Griffin is

1811
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:35.319
a cameo by Buck Henry, who co wrote the screenplay

1812
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:36.039
for The Graduate.

1813
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.920
I mean, you know, I love little gags like that.

1814
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:40.840
Yeah.

1815
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:43.720
The roughly eight minute opening uncut tracking shot was played

1816
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.119
with models before production began. It was noted that Altman

1817
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:48.439
would light a joint and spend hours playing with Tonka

1818
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:50.720
trucks to arrange the shot, so no time was wasted

1819
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:52.680
once they were in the space. The area of the

1820
01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:55.199
studio a lot was a Hollywood general former site of

1821
01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:58.920
Francis Forcoppo Zoetroupe Studios. Oh okay yeah, and was recently

1822
01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:02.520
condemned due to earthquake. New roofs, landscape and a repaving

1823
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.079
of the lot was done to bring the image up

1824
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:07.159
but also allowing Dolly moves to be smooth. The scene

1825
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:09.319
was rehearsed with cast and crew the day before shooting.

1826
01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:12.640
It was sixteen takes there were shot, five prints were

1827
01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:14.039
made and three were perfect.

1828
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:15.199
Oh wow.

1829
01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:17.920
In the eight minute long tracking shot that opens the film,

1830
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.680
Fred Ward character appears twice, each time talking about the

1831
01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:22.640
importance of tracking shots and how he hates how they

1832
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:24.119
aren't used in movies like they used to be.

1833
01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:28.159
Yeah, I thought that was fun, but I also kind

1834
01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:30.039
of found out a little cringe. Yeah.

1835
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:32.760
Moments of impact with characters within the opening shots served

1836
01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:34.600
as signals for the crew to address the next section

1837
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:37.359
of the set quickly so the tracking shot would remain uninterrupted.

1838
01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:39.479
A Chapman crane was brought in and fitted with a

1839
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:40.920
seat to operate as the Dolly.

1840
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:43.600
Yeah. I mean, it's definitely on a crane. Yeah, it's

1841
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:46.039
very clear that the camera's way up and then down low.

1842
01:16:46.479 --> 01:16:48.840
The film has more OSCAR winning actors and actresses in

1843
01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:51.159
the cast than any other movie in history. There are twelve,

1844
01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:53.960
including Cher, James Kober and Louise Fletcher, will Be Goldberg,

1845
01:16:54.039 --> 01:16:57.560
Joel Gray and Jelkie Houston, Jack Lemon, Marley Mattlin, Jim Robbins,

1846
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:00.720
Julia Roberts, Susans Rand and Rod Steiger. Thirteen when you

1847
01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:03.439
count Oscar winning producer and director Sidney Pollack, who also

1848
01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:07.800
makes a cameo appearance. Also includes Karen Black, Dean Stockwell,

1849
01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:11.239
Michael Tolkien, Gary Busey, Peter Falk, Terry Gar, Jeff Goldbloom,

1850
01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:15.479
Elliott Gould, Sally Kirkland Buck, Henry Sally Kellerman, Burt Reynolds, Nicknolty,

1851
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:17.079
Richard Ye Grant, and Lily Tomlin.

1852
01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:19.039
Boy Howdy, I'm dizzy already.

1853
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:21.640
Julia Roberts, among others, did her cameo for nothing?

1854
01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:24.760
Well that's not true.

1855
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:26.800
I know it's not, but that's what the trivia says.

1856
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:29.640
I I know they're not allowed to work for nothing

1857
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:31.880
because of the union, but if they did it for

1858
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:33.560
the lowest amount of pay.

1859
01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:36.159
The famous instance of that is that Bruce Willis is

1860
01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:38.760
not credited in Four Rooms because Sag threaten to sue

1861
01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:40.640
him because he did it as a favor for Tarantino.

1862
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:44.479
I mean, but I'm just saying, like, yeah, I mean,

1863
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:47.199
I don't know how the legality of that or whatever

1864
01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:48.840
would work. But SAG, you're not allowed to work for

1865
01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:52.520
free for your friends. But but them taking a minimum

1866
01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:55.800
pay day is still pretty nice, especially when they can

1867
01:17:55.880 --> 01:17:58.159
usually command like a million dollars.

1868
01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:01.159
It is estimated if alsolebrities who do cameos were to

1869
01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:03.479
charge their normal asking prices for the budget of the film,

1870
01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:04.960
it would have been in the excess of one hundred

1871
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:06.439
million on the salaries alone.

1872
01:18:07.039 --> 01:18:08.960
Could be I mean a lot of the celebrities didn't

1873
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:12.439
even speak no and they probably worked a half a day. Yeah,

1874
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:14.520
so I don't know, if what I think, really it'd

1875
01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:16.600
be more like twenty million dollars a bit. That's just

1876
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:17.880
my button math.

1877
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:20.840
Though Tim Robbins's Griffin drives the range Rover in the film,

1878
01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:22.680
due to the actor being too big to fit into

1879
01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:24.720
a Mercedes for camera shots from the front of the car.

1880
01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:25.880
Yeah he's a big dude.

1881
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:28.319
Chevy Chase was interested in starring in the film, but

1882
01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:31.119
Warner Brothers passed on him. Later, Chase would go on

1883
01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:33.119
to say he was worried about the sexuality of the

1884
01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:35.560
character damaging his career as a comedian and was happy

1885
01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:36.680
he did not end up taking it.

1886
01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:38.359
Uh, we're all happy too.

1887
01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:39.800
Yeah.

1888
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:41.960
The banquet scene at the Los Angeles County Museum of

1889
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:44.760
Art was catered by a real catering company, despite the

1890
01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:47.119
fact that many of them were SAG members. No banquet

1891
01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:48.720
staff who worked at the event were told that they

1892
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:50.560
would be filmed until they arrived for the work at

1893
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:52.840
night at the museum. The scene was filmed a year

1894
01:18:52.840 --> 01:18:55.840
before SAG assumed jurisdiction of extra work on West Coast,

1895
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:57.840
and the banquet waiters who appear in the scene were

1896
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:00.840
not paid for the extra work, not even on saguages.

1897
01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:03.720
The only compensation they received was the regular compensation for

1898
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:06.279
real life catering company for their hours worked during the

1899
01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:07.000
fake banquet.

1900
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:08.800
Damn, that's kind of harsh.

1901
01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:10.000
Yeah.

1902
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:12.640
Every time Griffin enters a bar, a restaurant, or a party,

1903
01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:15.039
he orders or has served a different brand of bottled water.

1904
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:16.000
Robbins.

1905
01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:17.960
At some points even begins to make up names for

1906
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:22.359
the waters that don't exist. Altman originally approached Tim Robbins

1907
01:19:22.399 --> 01:19:24.439
to be a part of the film Shortcuts. Altman invited

1908
01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:26.359
Robbins out through his Malibu home and he had seen

1909
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:28.720
Tim do work with an actors group called the Actors Gang.

1910
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:31.199
He offered him Shortcuts. They smoked a joint to celebrate,

1911
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:34.239
but funding unfortunately fell short for Shorts Cuts, and Robbin's

1912
01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:36.479
got a call from his agent sometime later stating he'd

1913
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:39.079
either be in The Player, which wasn't guaranteed much money,

1914
01:19:39.159 --> 01:19:40.600
or he could be in this other project that was

1915
01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:43.279
guaranteed a million dollars. Robin originally agreed to do the

1916
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:45.840
million dollar project, woke up the next morning calling his

1917
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:47.399
agent stating that he did not want to do the

1918
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:49.840
project and he wanted to work with Altman. Shortcuts was

1919
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:52.119
then made due to Altman's success on The Player.

1920
01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:54.359
Okay, I mean that's pretty cool.

1921
01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:56.600
The famous banquet and party scenes in the film had

1922
01:19:56.600 --> 01:19:58.840
no script of dialogue for the actors. Altman allowed for

1923
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.720
much improv on set and discussed beforehand with certain actors

1924
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:03.199
on how they'd like to run the scene so Altman

1925
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:05.399
could figure out the shots. While this makes the film

1926
01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:07.520
very active in scenes. Altman would go on to later

1927
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:09.439
say that it also led to the biggest shooting time

1928
01:20:09.479 --> 01:20:11.640
constraint in the movie, as he wanted the feature as

1929
01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:14.000
many big names as he could. Altman was also very

1930
01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:15.920
pleased that none of the cameo actors never asked for

1931
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:18.159
a screenplay or a script, and would simply agree after

1932
01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:19.880
Altman told them the synopsis of the film.

1933
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:22.880
I mean, well, that helps when you're Robert Altman.

1934
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:23.840
Yeah.

1935
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:25.800
In the scene where Tim Robbins stops to say hello

1936
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.039
to Burt Reynolds in the restaurant, Reynolds improvised the scene,

1937
01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.119
not knowing anything about Griffin, but manages to know he's

1938
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:30.680
an asshole.

1939
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:32.720
Well, yeah, yeah.

1940
01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:36.039
In the funeral scene, a man named Phil is giving

1941
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:38.319
an angry eulogy about how Hollywood led to the death

1942
01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:40.319
of Kahane. If you listen closely during the ending of

1943
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:42.279
the film, when Griffin is speaking to the postcard writer

1944
01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:44.479
about his movie Pitch, you can recognize the actor who

1945
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:47.720
played Phil, Brian Broffy's voice. Robert Oltman confirms in the

1946
01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:50.800
Criterion collection commentary that Phil is indeed the one responsible

1947
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:52.800
for blackmailing and threatening Griffin.

1948
01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:55.359
And that's why I get annoyed. I get that, so

1949
01:20:55.680 --> 01:20:59.520
it's not even actually you're not actually even told who

1950
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:04.680
the card writer is. It's just kind of a easter egg. Yeah,

1951
01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:07.560
but the card writer was such a major point of

1952
01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:10.039
the film, and granted, the card Writer leads to the

1953
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:13.680
death by mistaken identity and something like, that's why I

1954
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:17.520
get that. But I just thought there would be something better.

1955
01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:20.439
I was hoping the card writer would be his girlfriend.

1956
01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:22.279
Ye dump, Yeah, that's why I kind of hope to

1957
01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:23.840
him the card writer. But that's just me.

1958
01:21:24.119 --> 01:21:26.960
Griffin, while talking in June one point, names Ellen's for

1959
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:30.479
a successful film as being suspense, laughter, violence, hope, heart, nudity, sex,

1960
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:33.199
and happy endings, mainly happy endings, all of which Altman

1961
01:21:33.279 --> 01:21:35.159
was happy report and made it into the player, even

1962
01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:36.439
if they were in different basises.

1963
01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:38.560
Oh, fair enough.

1964
01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:40.600
All pitches made in the opening of the film to

1965
01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:42.680
Griffin were not scripted and were done by writers on

1966
01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:44.479
the fly as and exercise to get projects out of

1967
01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:46.039
their heads that they knew were not marketable.

1968
01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:47.079
Okay.

1969
01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:50.000
Tim Robbins claims the final ending scene of The Blackmailer

1970
01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:52.359
pitching Griffin the story of the film came from him

1971
01:21:52.439 --> 01:21:55.119
himself and Altman gleefully told Robbins, I am never giving

1972
01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:57.079
you credit for that.

1973
01:21:57.079 --> 01:21:58.000
That sounds like Altman.

1974
01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:01.000
During the museum benefit sequence, all did not call action

1975
01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:03.439
or cut the entire time, Keevin Robbins in a constant

1976
01:22:03.479 --> 01:22:05.359
state of pressure to stay in character even when the

1977
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:08.119
camera wasn't on him. Robin's recalls his main focus was

1978
01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:09.680
the lovely lady at his side.

1979
01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:11.479
Geez yeah.

1980
01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:13.880
Scenes in June's apartment with Griffin behind plastic as she

1981
01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:17.000
takes pictures came from Altman's love of diffusion with cinematography

1982
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:20.159
and also seeing a camera covered with plastic protection sheeting

1983
01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:22.960
one day on set. Robbins recalls Altman walking with him

1984
01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:25.159
on set, stopping to admire the camera in plastic, stating,

1985
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:26.800
I want to shoot through that.

1986
01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:29.760
That's so weird. I actually thought my glasses were dirty

1987
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:33.880
during that opening shot. Yeah, he had diffusion over that

1988
01:22:34.039 --> 01:22:36.479
thing Dolly shot. No. I mean right at the begin

1989
01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:37.960
at the beginning of Ye no, No, I actually thought

1990
01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:39.920
my glasses were dirty because it was diffused.

1991
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:42.680
Whoopy Goldberg personally called Altman stating that she wanted to

1992
01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:44.359
be in the movie, and Altman said he would love

1993
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:45.720
to have her, but he didn't have a part for her.

1994
01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:47.680
Whoopy was quick to tell him that she would play

1995
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:49.560
the policeman in the film, which Altman agreed to. It

1996
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:51.640
was noted later that Whoopy's involvement in the film led

1997
01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:53.720
to the film getting more money behind it to be completed.

1998
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:56.399
I believe that she was becoming a huge name at

1999
01:22:56.439 --> 01:22:57.199
that point.

2000
01:22:57.079 --> 01:23:00.720
And finally, after the movie received multiple award domined, Robert

2001
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:02.880
Oltman remarked to Tim Robbins, I think we were too

2002
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:04.039
nice to Hollywood in the film.

2003
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:05.359
It shouldn't be the successful.

2004
01:23:06.119 --> 01:23:08.960
I think that's a really good point. Yeah. Yeah, Honestly,

2005
01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.319
they didn't pick them as horribly as they could have.

2006
01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:13.439
They could have. Yes, So what are your final thoughts

2007
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:13.960
on the Player?

2008
01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:16.880
I mean, I think it's a it's an interesting film.

2009
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:20.640
I think the story is interesting and I like it,

2010
01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:25.279
but I think that it doesn't have the amount of

2011
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:29.399
payoff I would like. Yeah, but it's time capsule of

2012
01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:33.159
the nineties really is a great treat. All the cameos

2013
01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:36.319
are a great treat. The performances are really good. So,

2014
01:23:36.479 --> 01:23:38.800
I mean, for me, it's a stream it It's it's

2015
01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:41.000
not a I don't think you desperately need to see it,

2016
01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:43.359
But I think that it would not be a bad

2017
01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:46.279
idea and if you love movies, it's definitely one you'd

2018
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:46.760
want to watch.

2019
01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:48.399
Yeah, I am also in the same with this. I'm

2020
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:50.840
a stream it with a caveat to rent it. This

2021
01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:53.079
is one of those movies that if you're a movie fan,

2022
01:23:53.159 --> 01:23:55.920
a Hollywood fan of like I said old Time at

2023
01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:57.319
the at the beginning of the show, but if you're

2024
01:23:57.319 --> 01:24:00.399
a nineties fan of Hollywood, this is one definitely need

2025
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:02.720
to see. From the cameos alone, I think the story,

2026
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:04.600
even though the pacing is a little slow at times,

2027
01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:07.439
I think the story unfolds it a pretty fun way. Yeah,

2028
01:24:07.479 --> 01:24:11.880
and genuinely, I really just am rocked by Tim Robbins

2029
01:24:11.960 --> 01:24:14.039
performance in this because you really don't know if he's

2030
01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:15.600
just gonna snap at some point.

2031
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:18.319
Yeah. Oh, he played it very well. Yeah for sure. Yeah.

2032
01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:19.119
So yeah it is.

2033
01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:21.239
It is a stream it with a Bayott cave or

2034
01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:23.520
a rented caveat for me, and that is it. As

2035
01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:24.840
we always like to wrap up the show with a

2036
01:24:24.840 --> 01:24:27.159
couple of recommendations, I have two this week, the first

2037
01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:29.640
one being adaptation from two thousand and two. A Love

2038
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:32.600
Laurence screenwriter becomes desperate as he tries and fails to

2039
01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:35.319
adapt The Orchid Thief by Susan Orlean for the screen.

2040
01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:37.960
Second one I'm gonna go with is Bofinger from nineteen

2041
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:40.359
ninety nine, when a desperate movie producer fails to get

2042
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:42.640
a major star for his bargain basement film, he decides

2043
01:24:42.680 --> 01:24:44.520
to shoot the film secretly around him.

2044
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:48.119
Those are both really good films, but the best one.

2045
01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:51.039
Did I introduce you to this film? I think I did.

2046
01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:51.640
I think you did.

2047
01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:54.640
Yeah, yeah, which maybe is why you, respectfully didn't choose

2048
01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:58.920
it as your as your suggest would be. But for

2049
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:02.000
all of the good of the player, And just a

2050
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.600
few years later, Swimming with Sharks did it all better.

2051
01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:07.399
Oh that wasn't the one I was thinking of.

2052
01:25:07.479 --> 01:25:08.279
Oh what were you thinking of?

2053
01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:10.840
Oblivion? Oh no, no, no.

2054
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:12.680
No, it's not Swing at Sharks.

2055
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:14.199
I saw I saw before you.

2056
01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:16.159
Oh, I don't know if that's true.

2057
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:17.720
It's true. I saw it on WGNA.

2058
01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:19.880
Actually, how did you not choose Swimming with Sharks?

2059
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:21.720
I didn't even think about it, honestly, to be honest,

2060
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:25.159
because like adaptation, I just rewatched recently and it really

2061
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:25.760
stuck with me.

2062
01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:26.640
And Bowfinger.

2063
01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:28.079
I got to show you that's been always one of

2064
01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:30.119
my favorite movies for a good while.

2065
01:25:30.199 --> 01:25:33.039
So two years later, in nineteen ninety four, Swimming with

2066
01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:37.399
Sharks would happen. Yeah, and it's a satire film about Hollywood,

2067
01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:42.199
starring Kevin Spacey Frank Whaley and and it's it did

2068
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:46.600
everything that they were doing with The Player and way

2069
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:51.960
more serious. It's serious, it's dark, breaking, it's dark, it's poignant.

2070
01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:55.560
Has one of the bleakest yet perfect endings of all time.

2071
01:25:56.199 --> 01:25:59.079
Yeah. I mean, according to this it only has seven

2072
01:25:59.119 --> 01:26:03.760
hundred thousand dollar bunch. It was completely indie wow. And

2073
01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:06.479
it does more with that seven hundred thousand dollars yeah,

2074
01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:08.720
than the Player did with all of its budget.

2075
01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:09.359
I'll give you that.

2076
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:13.079
And this will be on the show. Inevitably, We're gonna

2077
01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:14.760
do Swimming with Sharks because it's one of the best

2078
01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:16.600
films I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. But the

2079
01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:19.680
reason I feel like it's the perfect combo is because

2080
01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:20.960
it is almost the same movie.

2081
01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:21.560
Essentially.

2082
01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:25.520
It's a movie about climbing the studio ladder, not being

2083
01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:30.239
a creative but being the studio people yea, the executives

2084
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:33.760
and what it takes and how the assistants are abused

2085
01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:35.880
and stuff. Like that. Swimming with Sharks would be a

2086
01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:39.279
perfect double feature with this movie. Especially watch Swimming with

2087
01:26:39.319 --> 01:26:41.159
Sharks second because it'll wake you back up.

2088
01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:44.359
Yes, you're not wrong. I love the player, but it

2089
01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:45.000
is a bit slow.

2090
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:45.680
It's a little slow.

2091
01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:48.319
Yeah, yeah, but that is it for the player. You

2092
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:49.680
want to know what we're talking about next week?

2093
01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:50.119
Of course?

2094
01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:54.880
Not well, too bad because maulgust continues as we are

2095
01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:56.640
going to go with a personal favorite of both you

2096
01:26:56.680 --> 01:26:59.520
and I as we dive into nineteen eighty five's Clue

2097
01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:00.479
next week.

2098
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:04.520
Five. Yeah, Clue Clues a lot of fun.

2099
01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:06.199
It's a lot of fun, a lot of plot.

2100
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:08.479
Hey, and Martin mull actually speaks in it.

2101
01:27:08.520 --> 01:27:10.840
Speaks in it. Yeah, it's featured on Cameron for more

2102
01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:12.119
than thirty seconds in it.

2103
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:15.760
It's true. So uh, speaking of all that, we have

2104
01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:18.279
an email. Oh I want to remind you while you

2105
01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:20.880
can email us at do you even movie pod at

2106
01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:24.279
gmail dot com or go to dooevenmovie dot com and

2107
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:26.239
send us a message through there. This is from our

2108
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:30.880
good buddy Patrick. Okay, Patrick said, uh. Commenting on the

2109
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:34.159
movie month title, what about mulling around? I don't think

2110
01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:36.319
it's worse than your current title. Thanks.

2111
01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:37.079
Uh.

2112
01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:40.640
And then and then Patrick asks, would you guys ever

2113
01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:42.239
do Deadpool?

2114
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:44.159
I don't think you would.

2115
01:27:44.439 --> 01:27:46.119
I do not like that.

2116
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:48.640
You're not You're not a fun I like Deadpool and

2117
01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:52.119
Deadpool too, but I'm not the biggest fan of either

2118
01:27:52.159 --> 01:27:54.760
those movies. They're fun. I've seen them both a couple

2119
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:57.720
of times. I do enjoy them, but I don't know,

2120
01:27:57.800 --> 01:28:00.479
like I they're those movies. While they do you present

2121
01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:04.079
a lot to talk about, I feel like also they don't.

2122
01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:08.560
I did not find Deadpool very funny, which is weird

2123
01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:10.920
because at the time I was in love with Marvel

2124
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:13.079
and I've always loved Ryan Reynolds.

2125
01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:13.560
Yeah.

2126
01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:16.119
I just don't find Deadpool to be a very compelling character.

2127
01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:17.399
You know what I would like to do on the show,

2128
01:28:17.439 --> 01:28:19.159
except I think we would have to cut it before

2129
01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:25.159
the final end the voices, Oh god, that means perfect until.

2130
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:27.199
Yeah, I know it's a genius film, Yeah yeah, and

2131
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:28.560
then the ending is total crap.

2132
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:31.000
So to answer Patrick, I don't think Deadpool will will

2133
01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:32.680
come to the show, unfortunately.

2134
01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:35.680
But maybe maybe I'll suck it up and go see

2135
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:38.840
Deadpool and Wolverine and then we'll do a we'll do

2136
01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:40.399
I don't I doubt it.

2137
01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:41.960
I didn't think.

2138
01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:45.399
I'm just not a big fan of the I'm literally

2139
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:48.039
not a fan of the movie the first Deadpool movie.

2140
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:50.279
I never saw the second one because I could not

2141
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:50.840
stand the.

2142
01:28:50.760 --> 01:28:52.920
First one, well could I stand?

2143
01:28:52.920 --> 01:28:56.359
Strong? I didn't find it funny. And the weird thing

2144
01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:59.399
is I saw it in a packed theater on opening night. Yeah,

2145
01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:02.840
and I wasn't the only one not laughing. I thought

2146
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it was really weird. I felt like the audience wasn't

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into it either.

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Would you entertain the idea of a double feature, possibly

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to prepare us for Deadpool versus I know, I know,

2150
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I know, I know, but I'm just I'm just throwing

2151
01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:13.960
that out there.

2152
01:29:16.079 --> 01:29:18.840
Life is short. You can you can quote the film.

2153
01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:22.359
You can take drugs or whatever you need to me.

2154
01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:27.319
Okay, I'll take my aunt to Histo me. Yeah, that's

2155
01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:30.600
part I'll take. I'll take a I'll take a bunch

2156
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:33.159
of benadrill and invite the hat Man along for the ride.

2157
01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:35.159
And the hat Man's like, I don't even like that.

2158
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:38.119
The hat Man's like, he's just kind of annoying.

2159
01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:42.880
But no, I'm I'm I do want to go see

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the third one, but I'm not rushing out.

2161
01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:46.680
Uh, well, it's not going anywhere.

2162
01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:48.600
Yeah, it's not going Yeah, but no, I mean I

2163
01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:50.439
I do enjoy the film's patrick, but yeah, I don't

2164
01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:51.760
think they would be ones to come to the show

2165
01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:54.000
just because somebody doesn't like them.

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01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:56.000
And it's rare that I don't like a movie.

2167
01:29:56.880 --> 01:30:01.399
It's the one that you won't tell me is my favorite? Right, Ah,

2168
01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:04.600
it can't be slaughter eg right, you're you wouldn't even

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01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:04.840
tell me.

2170
01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:06.680
If I got it right at this point, probably.

2171
01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:08.960
I would tell you you would ye. But but but

2172
01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:13.960
telling you does not mean giving you hints or suggesting it.

2173
01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:14.720
But I could, But I could.

2174
01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:16.399
I could throw out titles and you would get and

2175
01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:20.079
and and I could guess sure, I'm gonna need time

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01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:20.479
to prepare.

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01:30:20.520 --> 01:30:24.960
Then oh okay. I I the best part, guys, because

2178
01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:26.760
a lot of people have been writing and how hused

2179
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:30.600
they are. Uh was after we recorded that night, we

2180
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:33.279
were sitting down getting ready to start watching another movie

2181
01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:37.279
night Shift, and I just turned to Dave and I'm like,

2182
01:30:37.680 --> 01:30:39.640
I'm like, you'd really like a hint when you and

2183
01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:42.720
You're like yeah. I was like, yeah, I just watched

2184
01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:47.960
the movie, que guys, Yes, it's true, It's true.

2185
01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:51.760
So Enrique is right and also handsome.

2186
01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:54.600
So but before we get out of here, is there

2187
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:56.199
anything else you want to get across.

2188
01:30:55.960 --> 01:30:58.319
Davy, I think that is it. I do.

2189
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:00.680
I do want to add that I am really loving

2190
01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:03.279
the interaction we are getting both on Facebook and Instagram

2191
01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:05.840
with some of our clips that we've been putting up. Unfortunately,

2192
01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:08.119
like I've said on the podcast and previous, we've been

2193
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:10.079
banned from TikTok, so that's where the clips are gonna

2194
01:31:10.079 --> 01:31:10.640
be for now on.

2195
01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:13.199
Yep, Yep, yep. And I do want to mention I'll

2196
01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:16.840
go ahead and tease this now the month of October. Yes,

2197
01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:19.800
obviously we're gonna do something related to Halloween, obviously, but

2198
01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:22.439
I decided to take it one step further because some

2199
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:26.359
people sometimes if there's a space on the feed, I'll

2200
01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:29.880
release us reviewing horror films on Weekly Spooky Yeah, because

2201
01:31:29.880 --> 01:31:32.039
a lot of those listeners that's how they want to

2202
01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:35.319
hear about horror movies. Yeah. So this October, we are

2203
01:31:35.359 --> 01:31:42.119
going to do a combination Weekly Spooky do you even

2204
01:31:42.239 --> 01:31:46.119
movie combo every week, and we're going to talk about

2205
01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:52.279
only the finest, most quintessential, fun and accessible Halloween film.

2206
01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:55.039
Hell yeah, we are so they will every single one

2207
01:31:55.079 --> 01:31:57.479
of them. This I'm making this criteria right now. Every

2208
01:31:57.520 --> 01:31:59.479
single one of them will have to be readily available,

2209
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:04.560
relatively easy to access, ideally to be pluto stuff like

2210
01:32:04.560 --> 01:32:08.319
that on Halloween, which we have our great list that

2211
01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:11.079
you've already compiled of that, and we're just gonna have

2212
01:32:11.119 --> 01:32:15.079
a blast with it. Yeah, and we're gonna, of course

2213
01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:18.039
mention them ahead of time, so you have homework for

2214
01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:21.079
next week. So they will be publishing on the regular

2215
01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:23.119
Tuesday at here at Do You Even? Movie, whether you're

2216
01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:25.960
watching it on YouTube or listening on your podcast app,

2217
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:28.760
They'll be publishing on Tuesday at Weekly Spooky as well.

2218
01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:31.359
So I'm very excited. I think that's going to be

2219
01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:34.199
a really cool thing because last year do You Even

2220
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:37.199
Movie didn't exist in October not so you did a

2221
01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:40.279
special where you gave your quintessential horror movie list, which

2222
01:32:40.279 --> 01:32:42.199
people still are praising.

2223
01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:43.279
I appreciate it.

2224
01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:45.640
But this time around, I think we're gonna just we're

2225
01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:49.960
gonna hit it hard. So that's something to look forward to.

2226
01:32:50.039 --> 01:32:51.600
And of course, like we said, next week is clue.

2227
01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:53.840
So remember to leave us a comment. If you're watching

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01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:56.520
us on YouTube, leave us a five star rating on

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01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:59.119
your favorite podcasting app. We're going to push it when

2230
01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:03.159
you comment. Please comment over at YouTube because it drives

2231
01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:06.199
more audience. I noticed some people are commenting on Patreon,

2232
01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:09.359
which I appreciate, but if you comment on YouTube, it'll

2233
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:12.600
it'll drive the algorithm up. So but we will be

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01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:16.239
back here next Tuesday with even more do you even movie?

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01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:20.640
So until next time, traffic was a bitch.

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01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:21.479
Traffic was a bitch.

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Bye guys,