The Long Good Friday (1980): Bob Hoskins’ British Crime Classic

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1:38 dare to ask Do You Even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie officionado David Denyer. Spoiler alert. All right, hello everybody, and welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? I'm your host, Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy and co host double D David Denier. Greetings, and who likes British movies? Apparently I've never hid that fact. I can't think of a British movie you've spoken of. Good tidings, the one we had to endure together you didn't like that movie. No, I didn't.

2:28 But again, I also don't show you a lot of British movies because I know you're not a big fan of them. I have no problem with British movies. It's just when they're as dry as their states, it can be a little challenging. Yeah, you're just being rude. I mean, I'm just saying that was the probably the number one takeaway I got from this film was it was a lot of dry steak into last twenty minutes. I mean, there's it starts like the middle has a little bit of an issue, but overall, I think this is But the problem is the middle is seventy minutes. We'll get into it, but today we're going to be talking about the long Good Friday, which is actually a weekend that weekend. Indeed. Yes, yeah, and I was actually kind of bummed. I was hoping they would do more with the Catholic stuff. Yeah. They did for a little bit, for a little and then they just like forgot about that.

3:16 Yeah, I mean it's more so, it's more so about the Vengeance nineteen eighty is is this movie? It is I would say underrated movie because it has been unavailable for some time. It wasn't really until I saw it became available I think on I want to say Criterions Channel, and then that was when I first watched it. But then for like availability of it, you can get like other region releases, but for the US not so much. It wasn't available at all, not for a while. Arrow put it out recently in like the last like five or six years, and that was when I kind of took notice of it because I believe it was Anchor Bay originally put out the DVD and then Criterion did one, and it was basically just those two companies. Like the copy I have is a region O UK era Anchor Bay release. Oh so it was a region It's no, there's just no regional. It's it's UK. It's a UK Anchor Bay release. I didn't know Anchor Bay did UK a lot of UK well back when they when they existed, but they existed. Yeah, yeah, so I had never heard of this film, yeah at all. I obviously I knew Bob Hoskins from who framed Roger rabbit Y, yeah, of course. And Helen Mirren I knew for being Helen Mirren. Yeah, but but other than that, I had not heard of this film at all. What I mean, what was your experience with gangster? I mean Goodfellas of course, you know, and Godfather, But I mean, like, what are your like favorite gangster movies? Just off the top of your head. I mean, I mean,

4:46 basically, you know a plethora of Scorsese movies. Yeah, I've never been a big gangster movie person. Necessarily. I feel like they're all they're all the same story. I mean, whether whether fictional or true. Yeah, which is just a guy becomes powerful and rich and then he makes a series of stupid decisions again and again and again, and every single time he makes a dumb decision, somebody goes, You're gonna get killed for this, yeah, and he goes, eh, and then he gets killed, and then it's Pikachu Face buy At the same time, though, I think, honestly it goes back to a lot of the early film noir movies, because a lot of those had to do with gangster elements. There was one I watched recently from I want to say forty three called The Setup, uh hour and seventeen minutes long, and the whole movie is this boxer is going to his what is gonna be his final fight, but he doesn't realize there's a fix in on it. Nobody told him because everybody thought that he was gonna lose it. And then he's like, well, I'm gonna go win this fight, and then screws up everything for these for these gangsters and these guys that bet on it. So there's a lot of play I think with the story and plotline of a lot of gangster films, with going back to the noir days. But what I like about the UK gangster movies especially is the fact that they are slow burn. The violence, while infrequent, is usually really brutal and really bloody. But also they kind of follow that same formula.

6:09 Like you said, it's basically a rise to power and then a fall. And I just I enjoyed those those those titles for the most part, I think, I mean, I came up when gangster movies were being reinvented. Yeah, mostly by like Tarantino and people inspired by Tarantino. Yeah, and uh it's it's you know, it's popular to hate on Tarantino now. But like when you watch pulp fiction, pulp fiction is literally a movie about what gangsters are doing when they're not doing the stuff that's not doing oster movies. Yeah, that's what it's like. It's like, what is it like when two guys who uh rough people up for a living go to lunch? Yeah, And I find that stuff to be invigorating to the genre. It was about I think about two years ago, actually maybe about a year and a half ago. I had gotten I'd gotten a gift card for Amazon, and I'd gone through my wish list, and Warner Brothers about probably ten years ago put out a blue ray set that was the Golden Age gangster movies.

7:00 So you had Little Caesar White Heat that's a pizza movie, which you stopped Little Caesar White Heat, the Petrified Forest, and what the hell is the other one? Oh Public Enemy with Cagney. So I've been watching a lot of these and kind of going back and going back through a lot of them from the thirties, forties and fifties, and for the most part, the formula they do follow, like I said, is that rise to crime and then the fall. But at the same time, with UK titles especially, they have this element of introduce of introducing the idea of a Robin Hood character to most these things, because like Al Capone was thought to be like a neighborhood a neighborhood robin hood guy that you know, even though they did all these things, they did take care of their cities and whatnot. So I also the people who paid them that I know. But at the same time, but I like that aspect of things too, of just seeing even though these people are fucking monsters, there is some human sides to them in regards of taking care of the grounds that they come to. Yeah, they're like, don't worry, Korean grocer, if you pay us, we won't hurt you. And we're gonna I gotta skin this guy alive. I enjoy I enjoy the inner workings of organized crime. I remember the first time I saw goodfell As, I was just so mesmerized by just all the the unspoken rules that Henry Hill goes through in that movie. Well, that was based on a true story, absolutely, so it's gonna be a lot more detailed in that way. Well. See, there's there's a big difference between crime movies and gangsters. Yeah, absolutely, the very big difference. And that's something that is worth pointing out. So when you have a crime, I mean

8:33 crime is in right now, Yeah, and has been for a long time. On television, crime is kind of everything, whether you have a procedural or In the last twenty years, so many examples of major film or major series that are about the criminal. You've got Sons of Anarchy, You've got the spin off, the Mayance, you go a little further back, the Shieldield, You've got Breaking Bad, one of the biggest shows of all time, and then better all saw the follow up to Breaking Bad. They're all about criminals, just throwing out their Sneaky Pete. Sneaky Pete's a good example as well. Yeah, they're they're about the bad guys and they just kind of, you know, because they're cool. They're cool. Yeah, I mean you you have to remember when Scarface became huge, like in the early two thousands, because like everybody had posters of it and there were going with every every edge lord, every edge lore, I mean, Boondock Saints, Scarface, even though Boondock Saints are technically good guys, but Scarface, Like I remember that boom of where I got tired of hearing about Scarface and the Godfather because everybody was talking about it. Well, everybody was talking about about Scarface because you could get the T shirt at the mall. Yeah, and you would watch like MTV crips and everybody would have and like but every rapper it particularly, would have like a big scarface mural or or what have you.

9:50 And I honestly, I think that movie's fine if I prefer Carlita's way. I actually just watched a movie on DiPalma called The Palma, which is that like our forty nine minute movie where I think it's Noah Bomback is sitting with him and just interviewing him about all his movies his life. Watched it last night, really really good movie. It's just really cool to see the Palma just chew the fat of his own movies. I don't think I've ever heard Di Palma speak. It's crazy. It's kind of crazy, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, well the Palma was never like very like public facing. I mean, he goes, he goes into his earliest stuff all the way up to I think Passion was the last one he talked about from twenty thirteen. So like he goes into the casualties of war mission to Mars, which is what made him leave the US because that was where he was, Like I can go make my movies in other regions, and so he did. And with sex offenders, what yeah, I mean that's a benefit, right, But no, I just with gangster movies. I have nothing against them, I think. I mean, I think Goodfellas is one of the greatest films ever made. I think Casino is one of the greatest films ever made. But they do kind of hit the same note, not always Like what was that did we watch a while back? Was that the same Valentine's Day massacre movie? Yeah? Yeah, the Corman one. Yeah that was pretty good. George Sagall and Bruce Dern, I mean that was that was a solid movie. Yeah, that was pretty good. So, I mean, I don't know, I've just I've never been obsessed with kind of the the tough guy movie in that way, but I really do. My

11:26 biggest complaint with a lot of them is even Goodfellas, yea, even Casino, is that most of the movie is just people telling somebody again and again like you're gonna get killed if you do this. Yeah, and then they're going eh. And then when they get killed, they're like, well, hell, what happened? Oh shuck adues and and that's that's the part that kind of like I'm like, I'm used to that. I mean, it's a basic formula that if you get in it, it's that whole joke of like, you know, like the first half of good Fellas is really fun, not so much the second half just like Boogie Knights there, yeah, or full metal Jacket, full middle jacket. Yeah, that's kind of any epic story, Yeah, to an extent. Usually, especially when as highdrama, they want you to buy into the life, yeah, and the excitement of it so that you can see how they'd end up in the darkness of it later. I mean, it's very common that crime does not pay.

12:13 It's very uncommon for you to have you just make that up? How crazy? Right? You just made that up. That's a good one. Crime. What was it? Crime? Crime doesn't pay? Wow? I like it, but it's it's not It's more uncommon to have these movies with the the guy getting getting away with it. I mean usually that is the end of the movie. Is the demise of your character for the most well kind of expected the big changes. It used to be that they didn't get away with it because they got busted. Yeah, but now and by now, I mean in the last like thirty forty years, it's become more common that it's just that they get stopped by their own So it's like it's either a bigger, badder gangster or the gangster they were going up against takes them out.

12:56 And the authorities are kind of a total afterthought. One thing in this movie there are just no cops. No, I mean there's one copy talks to two copies, yes, two cups total on his payroll, and they but they accomplish story beats at best. It's just like, tell me where your informant is and he's like, I can't do that. He's like, eh, He's like all right, well, like you know, uh, do you know about the ending that I think it's I can't remember if it's AIP or whoever put out the original Scarface. There are two endings to the original Scarface in nineteen thirty four. One is that he dies in a halo bullets with the cops, which is what they expect. And then there I can't remember what was the reasoning, but they couldn't have that ending in one certain place, so they have this ending where he gets arrested and goes to trial and then is hung and like, there's this whole saying at the end about how you know, basically crime doesn't pay. Wait, so they arrest him, yeah, they try him, yeah, and then they're just like, your dick's big. Yes, they hang him. So oh oh you said he was hung, Yeah he's hung. Yeah. So they're like, oh, your dick's big. That's a really weird. That's a very that motion, that's the scarface of you did scarface? I feel like, damn right, so now talk about scarface. Would you like to get into the perda deeds of The Long Good Friday? Sure? All right? So The Long Good Friday nineteen eighty one hour and fifty four minutes, rated R.

14:13 This film is directed by John McKenzie. He starts his career as a director in nineteen sixty five with The Newcomers. Then he does Thirty Minute Theater in nineteen sixty five. Now thirty Minute Theater and a couple other theater shows are gonna come up, which is where a lot of these people were well known for each other and acted a lot in the UK early on in TV and whatnot. They became kind of known for those theater programs. Okay, do you even movie will be right Back, Welcome Back to Do You Even Movie? So The Jazz Age in nineteen sixty eight, ITV Saturday Night Theater sixty nine, The Wednesday Play nineteen sixty nine, One Brief Summer seventy one Made nineteen seventy two, Country Matters nineteen seventy three, The Wild West Show nineteen seventy five, Center Play nineteen seventy seven. Then in nineteen eighty he does The Long Good Friday. After that A Sense of Freedom in eighty one.

15:11 Then he does the Paul McCartney Taken Away music video in eighty two, Beyond the Limit nineteen eighty three, The Innocent nineteen eighty five, Active Vengeance nineteen eighty six, The Fourth protoc Called nineteen eighty seven, and then Enrique. In nineteen ninety he does a little film called Last of the Finest. Never heard of it? We watched it? No we didn't, Yes, we did. What's it about? That's the one. That's the one with Jeff Fayhey, Joe Pataliano, Brian Dennyhe all the brothers are cops going against the organized crime. Oh okay, yeah, it's a very American movie. Bill Paxton, Bill Paxton, I think Jeff Faye get knocked off in the first boilers. That's up a movie. I do remember a ensemble cast movie like that. It's been a while since we watched it. Ruby in nineteen ninety two, Voyage in nineteen ninety three, The Infiltrator nineteen ninety five, Looking After Jojo ninety eight, and then When the Sky Falls in two thousand and Quick Sand in two thousand yere you from there with quicksand by chance only the concept of Quick Sam. It was a movie that stars Michael Kine and Michael Keaton, and it is it stars them in regards of like they're involved in the plot a little bit here and there, but it's mostly, if I remember correctly, like a Saudi Arabian film that like they just used those two guys as the leads and then they're not really even in most of the movie.

16:21 Okay, Yeah, it was interesting. I was very excited for quicksand and then I watched it and I was just like, this isn't what I expected at all. Okay. So our writer is Barry Keith. He did Adam Smith. He wrote on Adam Smith in nineteen seventy three. It Playhouse sixty seven Premiere nineteen seventy eight, Long Good Friday nineteen eighty, No Excuses nineteen eighty three, Play for Today in nineteen eighty four, and Sun in twenty ten. The Long Good Friday is what is noted as is only a theatrical screenplay that he's ever penned. Okay, and then wrapping us up is our cinematographer Phil Mayhew. He did Trauma, Shot Trauma in nineteen seventy six, Play for Today nineteen seventy seven, Black Joy in nineteen seventy seven, Let's Get Laid in nineteen seventy eight. I've not seen that. No. I love that title. That's a solid title. The Professionals nineteen seventy eight, The Muse Machine nineteen seventy nine, Scum in nineteen seventy nine. Then he does The Long Good Friday in nineteen eighty, then OMEN three, The Final Conflict nineteen eighty one, The Final Option nineteen eighty two, Beyond the Limit nineteen eighty three, Those Glory Days nineteen eighty three, Morons from Outer Space in nineteen eighty five. He shoots episodes of Max Headroom in nineteen eighty five, Active Vengeance in nineteen eighty six, The Fourth Protocol nineteen eighty seven, Criminal Law in nineteen eighty eight. Renegade Is the Lou Diamond, Phillips and Keeper Sutherland film in nineteen eighty nine. Well that escalated quickly. Highlander two, The Quickening in nineteen ninety one, Defenseless nineteen ninety one, The Trial nineteen eighty two, Ghost in the Machine nineteen ninety three. What was that I'm saying? Ghost in the Machine? Yes, he shoots Ghost in the Machine nineteenninety three, The Crazy Computers, Killer Movie. You've ever seen that? Oh? Man, I got shit it? Ghost the Machine No Escape nineteen ninety four, Ray Liota, Oh okay yea. Then he does

17:55 Goldennine nineteen ninety five, The Saint nineteen ninety seven, Mask Zorro ninety eight and At ninety nine, Bi Centennial Man ninety nine, Beyond Borders two thousand and three, Around the World in Eighty Days Remake two thousand and four, The Legend of Zoro two thousand and five, Casino Royale two thousand and six, Beverly Hills Chiuahwa two thousand and eight, A Real Film, Edge of Darkness twenty ten. I do like Edge of Darkness, The Smurfs twenty eleven, Here Comes the Boom twenty twelve, The Smurfs two, twenty thirteen, SpongeBob movie Sponge Out of Water in twenty fifteen. Okay, he has quite a resume. It is quite a resume. So getting into the synopsis of A Long, Good Friday, the IMDb synopsis says, in the late nineteen seventies, cocky crime boss Harold Shane is a gangster trying to become a legitimate property mogul. Has plans, has big plans, A legitimate property mogul There we Go, has big plans to get American mafia to bankroll his transformation of a derelict area of London into the possible venue for a future Olympic Games.

18:47 However, a series of bombings target his empire on the very weekend the Americans are in town. Shand is convinced there is a trader in his organization and sets out to eliminate the rat in typically ruthless fashion. I mean, that's pretty close. That may the movie make more sense reading that. I wish i'd read that first. My synopsis Harold and a middle aged man makes a bunch of mistakes, doesn't know if he has enemies. Harold, an upcoming gangster, returns to London, ready to start a new life in real estate. When a series of bombings and violent attacks threatened his new life, Harold must turn back to his violent ways to keep his plans on track. All right, I thought his name was Errol. No Harold, then, who is Errol? Errol is the guy that that they're interrogating that they cut with the machete. Okay, I thought he was named Harold No, because then when they were tormenting him, he kept saying Harold, and I was like, what, Yeah, Harold is Harold is Bob Hoskin's character. Errol is the guy that they interrogate in that scene, which they but they sound like the exact same when they have that at Cockney Accent. There are multiple times that they said stuff to each other and I was just like, what, pivity Bobby Boo. So The Long Good Friday is currently available to stream.

19:49 You can find it on a couple of services in regards of actually seeing it in the new transfer that is going to be available when you watch it now on those services as well. So it does look really that's good. Yeah, going into our cast. Our cast is Bob Hoskins. He plays Harold shand one hundred and twenty two credits for him. I believe that he starts with the Main Chance in nineteen seventy two, Up the Front seventy two Villains in nineteen seventy two, Crown Court, New Scotland Yard Play for Today Thickest Thieves inserts Royal Flash So seventy five. He's doing a lot of TV work Rock Fall, He's a seventy seven. Then he does Zulu Dawn in nineteen seventy nine. Then in nineteen eighty he does The Long Good Friday eighty one, he does Othello in nineteen eighty two. He appears in Pink Floyd's The Wall does Beyond the Limit, Lassiter The Cotton Club, one of my favorite gangster movies, in nineteen eighty four. Then he appears in Brazil in nineteen eighty five, Mussolini and I in nineteen eighty five, Wonderful Romance, Sweet Liberty in nineteen eighty six, Mona Lisa nineteen eighty six, A Prayer for the Dying in nineteen eighty seventy. You remember that movie, I don't.

20:47 That was the one we watched with Hoskins and Mickey Rourke, where Rourke was the assassin hiding out in the church and Hoskins as the priest. Oh, I totally remember that one. That's actually a really good one, Solid for Solid Neo noir, who Fraim Roger Rabbit nineteen eighty eight, Heart Conditioned nineteen ninety, Mermaid in nineteen ninety, Shattered ninety one, Hook in ninety three. Oh yeah he was like the other but yeah he was the pirate underling. Yes, see to Captain Hook that he does Balto in nineteen ninety five, Tails in the Crypt in nineteen ninety six, which he also directed that episode as well. Oh okay, Nice Michael in nineteen ninety six, Felicia's Journey in nineteen ninety nine, American Vergon ninety nine, White River Kid, Don Hiote, Enemy at the Gates, made in Manhattan, Fraser Vanity Fair, Beyond the Sea, Unleashed in two thousand and five, Son of Son of the Mask in two thousand and five. Finally a real feature film, Missus Anderson Presentso five Paris, Paris, I Love You in two thousand and six, Hollywood Land, Ruby Blue Doomsday a Christmas, Carol, never Land, and most recently Snow White and The Huntsman in twenty twelve. He shortly passed after that, I want to say, in twenty seventeen. So what you're saying is the current director of the new Crow movie killed Bob Hoskins.

21:49 That is not what I'm saying. But okay, I think that's an extreme place to land at free but I respect your opinion. David. Would you stop moving down our list? We have Helen Mirren who plays Victoria one hundred and forty nine credits on her resume. By the way, again, that does not surprise me at all. Helen Mirren's a goat hero Stratus in sixty seven, A Midsommer's Night Dream in sixty eight, ITV Saturday Night Feeder in seventy one, cousin Betty in nineteen seventy one, Oh Lucky Man nineteen seventy three, thriller The Philanthropist Hamlet, Caligula in nineteen seventy nine. She was in Caliguila. Oh yeah, she's the love interest of McDowell. Oh have you seen Caliguilia? Not since I was in high school? Wow? Yeah, that new That new version's coming out soon that apparently has been recut and is not straight up PORNA movie I'll just watched by Bruno Mattai Caligula. We haven't watched that much. I have them. I know we need to SOS Titanic in nineteen seventy nine, Hussey in nineteen eighty, Long Good Friday in nineteen eighty. Then she goes on to Excalibur in nineteen eighty one, twenty ten, the year we Make Contact in eighty four, White Nights, the Twilight Zone, the Mosquito Coast, when Wales came, the Cook, the Thief, his wife for lover in nineteen eighty nine. One of my favorite movies, of course, it is Dude. I love that movie. So good Comfort A Strangers, Prime Suspect, The Maddness of King George in nineteen ninety four, Critical Care nineteen seven and nineteen ninety seven, The Prince of Egypt ninety eight, Teaching Miss Tingle in nineteenninety nine. I forgot she was in that. Oh yeah, that she is Miss Tingle. Damn right.

23:11 She is the Pledge two thousand and one, Gosford Park two thousand and one, Calendar Girls two thousand and three, The Clearing Raising, Helen Frasier, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The Queen two thousand and six, National Treasure Book of Secrets two thousand and seven, Inkhart, State of Play, The Debt, Brighton Rock, Red, Arthur Gleechhock Hitchcock, phil Spector, Monsters, University Read two, The Woman in Gold, Trumbo, Collateral, Beauty, The Fate and the Furious in twenty seventeen. Damn right, Winchester In twenty eighteen. Yep, nothing, all right, fair enough, it had it had some fun moments. It had its fun moments. I really wanted to like that movie more. I I mean, it's tough. You know, when we're all clamoring for a Winchester House movie, we're all like, when's it gonna happen, When's it gonna happen? And then we get it, but it's not exactly what we wanted it to be. No, No, it's not. Hobs and Shaw twenty nineteen. The Good Liar Fast nine in Fast Saga, Gold Fast X and Barbie, most recently in twenty twenty three and then Wrapping us Up. Is Paul Freeman, who plays Colin in the film one hundred and thirty five credits on This Gentleman. He starts in Champion House in sixty seven, Jason King, The Protector's Saturday Night Theater, Who's Child Am I? The Sweeney Death of a Princess Long Good Friday in nineteen eighty. Then he goes on to do The Dogs of War rd is The Lost Dark in nineteen eighty one, where he plays Belloch. Then he was in Unsuitable Job, Suitable Job for a Woman in nineteen eighty two, Crown Court in eighty two, Final Option eighty two, The Sender Cagney and Lacy, Falcon Crest in nineteen eighty four, Pall Roads Lead Back to the Falcon Crest, Shanghai Surprise nineteen eighty six, Prisoner of Rio Without a Clue,

24:45 May Wine, The Last Island, Aces, Iron Eagle three in nineteen ninety two, Double Edge in ninety two, Just Like a Woman ninety two, The Young Idiana Jones Chronicles in ninety two, The Viper Mighty morphin Power, Rangers of the Movie in nineteen ninety five, where he played Ivenues. Wow, Yeah, that's him, That is him. Tales of the Crypt nineteen eighty six, Samson and Delilah ninety six, Double Team, Inspector morse Er, George and the Dragon, Midsommer Murders, Hot Fuzz, Hotel, Babylon, Centurion, Hard Boiled Sweets, Strike Back, Get Away, The First Line, Viking, Destiny Man from Rome in twenty twenty two, and most recently did Paris Christmas Waltz in twenty twenty three. Wow. Okay, so this was your first time watching it, so I don't have we don't have to go into your first time because we'll get to that. I mean, it feels like it was years ago. I could get that. Yeah, I mean well, I mean when it started. Yeah, yeah, yeah, my first time watching this. I became aware of this film looking at Bob Hoskins's filmography, and it wasn't until about twenty twenty one that it became available for me to see, Like I could go and buy a pretty pricey Criterion DVD or Anchor Bay DVD, but then a Criterion channel I lucked out, so I watched it. I was really blown away with how good it was, how Hoskin was. I think the story was intense, and I thought overall, it keeps you guessing what's going on in the very end, as well, and I think the performances in general, along with the score. I love this movie for the record. It keeps you guessing, but it's not actually a twist when you find out what's going on twist at all. I mean, once you starting those pieces together, it's like having the killer turn out to be a character that wasn't in the movie until the

26:18 moment they revealed who the killer was. I just I think the selling point of the of the movie is that final like ten minutes, especially because yeah, because it's like exciting and interesting. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I mean it though, like it's actually like very strong, yeah, in that time period, but by then I've already kind of been like, while this guy is dumb and self destructing himself. So unfortunately that's been established. Fully. I was waiting for Helen Mirran to be the twist that she was like like she was the inside person. Yeah, and when that didn't happen, I was like, well, damn, all right, Well let's get into the movie then. So we opened with a shot of a nice cottage and we see Colin. Okay, cottage, Okay, college cottage, my apologies. Colin gets off a ship and we see him going into a car. He's removing money from a suitcase and putting it into his jacket, and then he passes the suitcase off to another We go back to the cottage as the man returns with the suitcase, which they find money stashed under, and we're seeing this all through a window. So we're seeing into the cottage of somebody like looking in through a window. Yeah. Correct. So that is when we go back to the club and we see Colin is flirting with the young man and his crew suddenly get ambushed. They're taken away in cars and the cars pull up later and they're dead. Meanwhile, the cottage is also ambush and everybody is shot inside of it. Yeah, there's a lot of gay stuff. I'm not being funny. There's a lot of gay stuff in the opening. Yeah, where they're basically trapping some of the people that this Hoskins character relies on. Yeah, because they hang out at places where they could pick up other guys. Absolutely. So then we cut to Harold, who is Hoskins character, and he's coming back into town. We see his plane land and we see him walking through the airport, and that's when we see his assistant Razor as well and his other right hand man, Jeff.

27:49 And we also see that a coffin is being unloaded off a train. These are my two henchmen, Jeff Razor and Jeff. You're not wrong, yeah, And it's like it's like, uh, who would you like to protect you? I'm gonna go with Razor, not Jeff? Why not? Jeff? Jeff is quite lethal. It's short for Jeffrey Dahmer. Wasn't a thing yet, so that wouldn't even be a threat. I would, no, no, So, but we also see a coffin being unloaded off a train, and we see a widow and we meet Jeff and Razors. Razors has has the car parked out a bit, and Jeff's at a cafe and we see this widow that was with this coffin walk up and spit in Jeff's face, no context whatsoever. She gets back in her car and drives off in the has more of an intimidation fact, could be. So Jeff and Razors meet or excuse me, Razors meets Harold at the airport and that's when they're back in the car. Jeff shows him then plans for the new hotel that he plans to build on the city as they're going to be working on the London docks to get everything leveled out for the way of this real estate plan. At the docks, we meet Victoria as she sits with Harold and they're both on this houseboat as they discussed the arrival of Charlie and Tony, who are the two American mafiosos that Harold is hoping to land to help them fund the project. And mafioso's mean like a kind of minestrone, right is that it? I don't know, just trying to make a joke. Do you Even movie will be right back, welcome back to do you Even movie?

29:33 Harry is hoping to bring them into the business if he can redevelop the London dock lands. And that's when we see Colin is enjoying a swim at one of the local clubs and he sees a young man catch his eye and the young man looks back at him. The young man, of course, played by film debut of Pierce Brosnan, Yes, good Old Pierce Brosnan of Missus, Doubtfires, Doubtfire and James Bond and Redmilton Steele. No, No, you're thinking of the November Man. He was the November Man. I like the November Man. It was actually pretty close solid. I saw The November Man at the King of Prussia Cinema in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania. Oh my god, because I had nothing to do that whole day. Yeah, so I just went to the theater and that was the movie showing I hadn't seen. Have you heard about The Mattador with Greg Kinnear and Pierce Brosnan.

30:15 No, so I guess I haven't seen yet. It's in my watch list. But from what I understand, like Kinnear is like a guy that's down on his luck and like has just lost his job and at this hotel where he's like basically drinking himself, he meets Pierce Brosnen, who's an assassin. He's drinking himself like hiss, pissed, drinking himself to death. Oh oh yeah, I mean contact matter, My apologies, but yeah, no, he meets he meets Broston's character, who's this assassin who like they start having an unlikely friendship. It's supposed to be a really good movie. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm excited to huh, well, I'll always remember Pierce Brosnan for my favorite role he's ever done, which is in No Escape. Oh god, his character in No Escape is awesome. Us getting those free tickets to see No Escape was a plus for that, but then that movie just kicked ass. Yeah yeah, nobody remembers Owen Wilson and No Escape No one seems to really, although that movie also could have been named anything else. Well, he also could have just been named like guy doesn't google where he moves his family to. My god, because it's all about this guy takes his family to a fictional Asian country and then they get there and then immediately civil unrest takes over there the entire country and their their apartment complex which is like a high rise, fancy place, and now they have to escape to Vietnam or Laos, one of I think it's one or the other. They have to escape to one of them to save their lives.

31:33 In your stomach the entire time, Oh no, it is. It is fever pitch. But my favorite thing about it is that, like, as it's all going down, it's just Owen Wilson's Wow, as like the whole country's fall aparts, Like could you have read one paragraph of the Wikipedia page of the country you moved your family to, like one paragraph. It was like he had no idea there was any civil unrest. That was the only part that I found kind of stupid about the movie. But the action is flawless, and Pierce Broston's character is highly memorable. Yeah. And and he like he basically is a spot. Yeah. And he helps them out simply because they were nice to him on the plane. Yep. So when he finds him, he's like, all right, I'm gonna find a way to get you guys in Vietnam. I loved I love the scene where he's feeding the kids and then and like he's he's like I had some left over me And then it's him and Wilson talking and then they just pan over that dead rat that's off to the side, but he clearly could and his buddy who's local to the area helping him out, who goes by the name Kenny Rogerny Rodgers, Yes, because he because he has like a car he drives around that is like the Kenny Rogers mobile. Yeah. No. Escape highly recommended and one of three or four movies with that title. Yeah, So we see con back at the club, and that's when we see Charlie is welcomed in by Harold and Victoria and they're shaking hands and they're small talking and he even Harold also comes across two of the local police at or Ken in his pocket, one of which is Parky, who will get to a little later on. He takes Jeff aside and tells him to watch the boys, make sure they're on their best behavior, and then also they're going to run down

33:04 the plan and they don't want to be interrupted by Victoria with the arrival of Charlie. So Charlie and Harold share a greeting as he introduces him to his lawyer Tony. Back at the pool, Colin enjoys a swim, but the young man persuades him to follo him in the showers. The two kind of start caressing each other, but then the man stabs Colin and then has another guy come from the back and stabs him as well, and Colin is stabbed, murders him, stabs him. Context oh my god, stop it. So that is when le I said he is ambush stabbed to death, and that's when we see another Harold associates that took Harold's mother to church. Harold's mother church and the church blows up as he goes back to his car and a car bomb goes off. So right outside this church as they're finishing up the service, this car bomb just goes up and kills Eric said, the church exploded. I wish the church exploded, wow. I mean it would have added to the element wow or caught fire. Well, when we find out who the culprit is, it really wouldn't have made sense for the church explod You're right about that. You're right about that. It wouldn't have so.

33:59 Back on the Harold addresses the party with his plan that he states that London is going to become Europe's capital, using all the available land for future prosperity and the right people to mastermind the new London. Charlie takes Harold to the side, telling him that he's not on Harold's time because Harold is like, you know, you rest up, we got a big plan for tomorrow, and Charlie's like naw man, Like I go at my own pace, like we'll get all this taken care of. But when I say so yeah, So that is when Victoria tells him that the boat is docking, and she also reminds Harold's to relax that everything will work out. And right at this point, Harold receives the news via phone about Eric's carbomb and that Eric is dead and that his mother is in the hospital. Harold's mom is in the hospital. Now, Eric's carbomb sounds like a drink they serve at a shitty bar. It does so here in the news, Harold is drinking and he shatters the glass in his hand, and he starts to question who could do this outside of a church, especially near Easter weekend? You know, when you go back, the car bomb should have given away exactly who was behind Who was behind it? Yeah, because I mean it's one of three bombs that we're gonna get to now as well. Yeah, but the car bomb is like a signature move yeh of the villain. Yeah, spoiler villain.

35:09 There's no good guys in this week. There are no good Right before the end of the movie happened as I was watching Bob Hoskins do his stuff. There was literally a moment where I went, I literally not kidding, like maybe ten minutes before the movie's over, I was, Yeah, am I supposed to root? For Hoskins because he sucks. I mean, the character's bad. Yeah, Hoskins is phenomenal as the portrayal. But yeah, so Harold questions why as no one knew about what was going on about Charlie's visit, and he orders everyone to go back out to work and someone has to find Colin because Colin's mia and they're like, well, he's out the club swimming, and he's like, we'll bring him back here. So they go all go out to the cars, and that's when another car pulls up, and it's Jeff that goes to intercept him, and he tells and that's when they find out that Colin has been stabbed to death at the pool.

35:52 And they also have no idea, no witnesses or anything, and they try they cover it up. They say that he's missing, yeah, and they hide his box at the Avatoire, which a slaughterhouse. Yeah. And that's when they also said that they were gonna meet at the Mayfair Casino, but they were stopped before that. And Hoskins also swears that he's gonna have whoever's responsible bleeding by midnight. So they all go to leave and that's when the car pulls up with the news of Colin, and that is when we go to the club and Hoskins looks over at Colin's body and he's he's distraught. This was his buddy, man, this was his war buddy. This was his friend, and even tells a story about how Colin saved his life because at one point they were out in an area that was super cold, and Hoskins had either gotten strayed from their pack, and that's when Colin actually went out to find him, and Hoskins at this point really delivers a great performance of emotion. Yeah. No, it's a good scene. He's clearly distraught by the loss of his friend. And again there are no witnesses of the murder. So we cut to the Wayfair casino where one of the assistants of the casino comes out and tells him that a bomb has been discovered inside the casino. But of course it didn't go off because when they opened the suitcase, it disconnected the wire for it. Man, that is some high tech engineering. High tech engineering. Indeed, Harold questions who has been if anything unusual had occurred at the club or at the casinae before while he or even while he was in New York, and they all confirm nothing has happened.

37:02 So Harold questions Razor if he can think of anyone with an old score settle, but Razor questions who'd be big enough to take you on, and Hoskins, in a great line, says there were a few, but they're all dead now. So Harold states that there were a few, they're all dead now, and that's when he confirms with Parky, the cop from before who intervened, like Enrique said, and he got the car out before anybody can investigate it forensics and also kept it out of the press that it was a car bomb, and they said that it was a gas leak instead, which is one of two we'll get to, yeah, ghas leak. So Parky intervened and he tells Harold that he wants to know if there's anyone with a motive that could find it. Parky tells him he'll get the situation. To get the situation under control, and hands over is handed over to the casino.

37:44 Bomb is handed over to him, and Harold and his men go on their way to find whoever they can interrogate to find out what's going on, and that's when Parky confesses that there is one guy who may know when that's when we go to Errol's house, not Harold, Errol's house, which sounds just like Harold when British people they want to cough me. Accident says it. Yes, so he knows all the going on. So that's when they go to his house and they interrupt him with the chick. They pull him off and take him downstairs, and that's when Harold introduces Errold to Razor by basically demonstrating what Razor's specialty is by showing his scars with the barbed wire. He's got a slash across his face, and that he loves to torture. Yeah, but to me, that doesn't really sell what he was trying to get across. He's like, look out, cut up he is. That doesn't tell me he's good at cutting people up. It doesn't at the pay, I guess he enjoys it. It's just's intimidation. And Razor definitely intimidates him because they run a machete across his ass, across his side, and Errold knows nothing, he has no information to give. So back on the boat, Victoria is entertaining Tony and Charlie, keeping them in the dark on the day's events. And that's when Harold once again convers with his men, who have no information to bring to him, and he tells them to go back out in the streets until they find something. Jeff then reminds Harold that they have to take Charlie and Tony to dinner. So Harold, Victoria, Charlie, and Tony all go to dinner one of Harold's pubs, but as they arrive, the pub just blows the fuck up. Yes it does, and they seriously tell their American friends, oh well natural gas or And all I could think was like, how stupid do you like? If they were that dumb, would you want them to partner with you on your crime empire?

39:16 Probably not? Or I guess your transition. Well that's the other funny thing though, is He's like, we're transitioning to legitimate, legitimate, but yet the people there that he's bringing in to talk about it are all crime. They're all mobbed up. I will say one thing that you did not mention that was, look, I'm not gonna I did not love this movie. I thought it was not a terrible film by any stretch, but There is one moment in the movie that I thought was phenomenal, and I'm pretty sure you didn't even mention it, which is okay because it's a long movie, and frankly, it's a long movie where not a lot happens for a lot of it. When he gives the speech on the boat, have we gotten We haven't gotten there yet. He gave the speech on the boat.

40:00 Did you notice anything wonderfully brilliant about his speech? Tell me as so. The way the scene's done is Hoskins is standing at the tail of his boat. Yeah, and he's given this speech about I'm a Londoner and we're gonna make this the best place. We're gonna make this the leader of Europe. We're gonna make all this stuff. The entire time he's doing it, whether it's in a medium shot or a close up, he's framed by the London Bridge. Ah Man, I did miss that. That moment really made me love that scene because it was telling a double story. But literally, the entire time he's talking, the boat's moving, but no matter whether it's a tight shot or a medium shot, the London Bridge is the center of the frame. And then he's in front of it. Yeah, So when he's talking and talking, it's all London Bridge, and I thought that that was a really inspired moment. Absolutely, I really loved that. That is probably the only time you're gonna hear me like gush yeah over this film. But that London Bridge shot where he is just going off off about how England is going to see it's time, where it's going to lead Europe and how important it is to be from London and take care of London and build London.

41:07 Yeah, and the whole freaking time blurry London Bridge right behind him. I loved it. That's genius. So that's when, like I said, they tell him that there's a gas leak, and he tells Victoria to take them to another restaurant, and Harold confers with his men that they're gonna go back out fan all the regions, and he's also getting guns to all his men to go gather all the suspects that they have and bring them in because somebody has to know something, and they're all gonna meet at the Abatuar at midnight. Jokes on them, it's totally possible for everyone to know nothing. This is true. On Twitter, he assigns Jeff to go meet up with Victoria and entertain Charlie and Tony because at this point it's just Victoria and counselor or Chancellor Harris, and we'll get to that in a second, because that's not gonna go well. So they're all gonna meet at the Avatar at midnight.

41:49 At the restaurant, Charlie and Tony are asking Victoria at a level with them, because they're not stupid, they're not freshman. They're like, no, that was a bomb. That was a bomb. Two bombs, yeah yeah, oh oh no, you know gas accidents to crime family, Yeah yeah, yeah. Two bombs in one day is serious business. So Victoria questions how they know, and that's when they say it's their job to know, and Charlie threatens Victoria to tell them what is going on or they're going to leave town and fly back to the US. So Victoria tells them about the car bomb, the casino bomb, colin stabbing, and even the pub imploating are exploding, and Victoria assures them that tomorrow the problem will be settled, and that's when Tony tells her, you know what we are, we're agreeable men. You have twenty four hours to fix this or we're going to fuck right off. Yeah, I don't blame them. Yeah, So they have twenty four hours to solve their problems, but one more foul up and they will leave. Later on, when they're talking to the he literally says like, this is Vietnam. Yeah, Like that's the way they describe doing business in England with him, is this is Vietnam. So at a local bar, we see Harold round up one of the gangsters. He takes them to the car with Brazers help, and back at dinner and inebriated Chancellor Harris is making things worse. He's angering Charlie and Tony, telling them that he knows everything and that he's got all these business plans. But Jeff arrives just in time to smooth things over. Before Charlie and Tony returned to their hotel, Jeff takes Victoria home and tells council Chist that they call him a cab.

43:07 And that's when Harris makes the comment to Victoria knows nothing and that Jeff is the real bastard. Yeah, which we'll get to. So in the car, Victoria drives expressing how tough the day has been and Jeff offers to see Victoria to redore when they arrive to the apartment, and they have an awkward exchange in the elevator as Jeff tells her that he wants to lick every inch of her body. Yeah, yeah, and uh, and it's done by him looking her up and down and her looking him up and down with no music, no music, and then he just says that, Yeah. Then the the e This is weird. Yeah, notice it is weird. So we cut back to the avatarre it's midnight now when Harold and raise Her arrive and Harold goes to see Collin's body, but right as he does, the rest of his men shortly arrive with their catches, and they're all strung up like cattle because they are taking them down the slaughter chain. They literally have them hung upside down and they're all forming them into the freezer. Yeah on a frames, Yeah, and they're being scooted along humping upside down, and it's really cool because the one POV shot you actually go along. Yeah, they do have the camera being upside down and following them, which I thought was cool. So the rest of the men shortly arrive with their catches and that's when he tells them all that no one goes home until they find out who's guilty. Jeff arrives shortly after this time, and one of the gangsters is trying to tell him that they know nothing and that Harry should probably or Harold should look into his own men, and that pisses Jeff off. He loses his temper. He's about to assault a local crime boss, which this would create a war, which, by the way, I love though that when somebody says like, maybe it's your own men, Yeah, he's like what an all thing is like fucking duh, Yeah, fucking duh. Yeah.

44:38 How do you think they always know where you're gonna be? Yeah, So Parky shortly arrives and he tells him that the bomb is an Irish Special Branch style and that he is getting out of this because now this is something hot that he wants nothing to be a part of. And Harold, of course, being bullheaded that he is, is like, no, no, no, We're gonna finish this yeah now. And for context, this is an era of very long era yeah, where the Irish Republican Army was one of the largest terrorist organizations in the entire planet. Not just in Europe but in the entire planet. So it would be kind of like when you watch Sons of Anarchy and they'd be like, all right, we found somebody to buy our guns. It's the it's the Taliban. Yeah, they were like what not that far off? So that's why people are like, do you even? Movie will be right back, welcome back to do you even movie?

45:44 This looks like the IRA? I only think so. Parky gets slapped around by Hoskins character and he's like, you know, no, you're in this. You finish this. I pay you, You do what I tell you to do. And Parky is trying to reason him, like you cannot take on the IRA, like these people will fucking eat you up, And of course Hoskins is like, no, no, no, we are going to finish this. Well, he even mentions later on he's like, he's like these people don't care about money. Yeah, they're political, they're what was he he calls them something else, like they're uh uh, I mean he says, like they're crazy, they're they're ideologues, they're they're political. Yeah, it's not about the commandos at one point, well, I mean a lot of them are. But the Irish Republican army fought against the United Kingdom, like the idea that Hoskins Crime Syndicate could even stand up to them at all when they're an organized terrorist army. And and look, no matter what you think about the IRA, there they were acknowledged as terrorists. They committed acts of terrorism because it was the only way they could compete with one of the largest armies in the world. The previous title we talked about the Prayer for Dying, that Mickey Rourke and Bob Hoskins movie. Remember that opening with Rourke's character is Liam Neeson of the IRA doing that bombing with that tunnel and that fucks that school bus up of those kids. There were a lot of especially in the nineties, a lot of great IRA thrillers. Yeah, Devil's Own What was the one with Brad Pitt where Okay, one of my favorite Errison Ford and Brad Pitt. Yeah, that's one of my personal favorites.

47:09 A great one. And like every Jack Ryan, every Jack Harold was basically about the IRA. Yeah. And one thing I do want to add in regards to Harold's interrogation of the men is he's he's trying to be civil with these local crime bosses, because he talks about, how you know, I've I've helped you when you were down, I've put money in your pockets, You've done things for me, I've done things for you. Just tell me what's going on. Somebody admit to this so we can all figure this out. Yeah, And they're all like, we have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah. So it turns out they're telling the truth. They're telling the absolute truth. So that's when he tells Jeff to let them in, go give them a grand each, and send them home. And that's when Harold says he's gonna go home and do some thinking. So Harold goes home to find a nervous Victoria. She's having a drink and a smoke, and he joins her in the living room, asking how it went with Charlie.

47:51 She informs him that they know about the bomb, they know about the rest of the events, and that she had to tell them that to stop them from leaving. And this piss is Harold off. He actually briefly like goes to her and throws her down and he's like, no, no, what am I doing? Like I'm losing it, like I'm sorry, and that's what he tries to comfort her, and she tells him not to treat her like one of her thugs, and Harold apologizes, and we cut to a warehouse the next day where we see a bunch of explosive containers that all say what is it, like danger explosives on it? I think yeah. They all say like basically explosive. Yeah, and they're yellow. Yeah, and they're yellow. And we see a lot of these containers just sitting around a warehouse. A woman pulls up and we see that it says Harris is demolition, So this is kind of Chancellor Harris's place. So after releasing a dog that's in a security off is locked up, she follows the dog through the building and inside the building. At the top of it, we find Harris has been beaten and crucified to the floor. Well he wasn't crucified because there's no cross, no cross, but I mean he hands nailed to the floor. Yeah, very very brutal. So Harold and Victoria are delivered the news of Victoria questions who got to him before before they could, and Victoria even says that she thinks someone inside the group could be responsible. And Harold's like, you think so q pikachuh. Yeah, So Harold about Harris's comment the night before of her being wrong and Jeff being the real bastard. And that's when Harold phones Razor, asking him to find out who the woman was that was recently speaking to Jeff, which was the widow that spin on him because Razor we glossed over that. Razor at one point told Harold about Jeff getting spin on by the woman because he was out in the car waiting for him. So that's when Harold tells him to phone him, phones him, asked him to find out who Jeff's speaking to at the funeral, and once

49:22 he finds out to pick Harold up and they're going to go find her. So we cut to a cemetery where we see a woman on the ground visiting a stone and Harold calls to her, missus Benson. She calls Harold a bastard, and she tells him that Colin had been sent for her husband to go to Belfast as a show for Harold has no idea what she's talking about. He's like, what do you mean Belfast? I don't do business in Belfast. What are you talking about and that's when she finds out that Jeff was involved in this business. And Harold tells the widow that he's going to make this right. She'll have one hundred quid a week and that he's going to get her husband a decent gravestone. And he goes off after he slaps her in front of her children. Yeah, I mean he does do that. Yes, there is that here here. I didn't say he harrow. I never said a hero, So Haroldvid's personal hero. Harold returns to the boat and he's angry. He goes to poor a drink, and that's when we see Jeff roll up in his car and Harold watches him walk onto the boat and he asked him about the incident in Belfast, and this catches Jeff off gord because he's like, well, how do you know about that?

50:15 And he asked who's phil Benson? And Jeff reveals that Colin had to make a delivery to Belfast that was money on Chancellor Harris's behalf to the IRA that he then took for himself, and then that night three of their main men were murdered. Awkward, So this is all for five thousand dollars and the night that Colin delivered that three of the top mem were murdered. Harold puts it together that this is now a revenge plot. The IRA thinks that he is in charge of the robbery and was in charge of the hit, and they're taking it out on him by taking out his businesses and his men. Yeah, so it's eye for an eye kind of thing. So Harold confronts Jeff and ask him why he didn't tell him this. Jeff states that he was scared they were going to kill him. Harold states that he's going to kill them all, and Jeff tries to reason with him to work with them, telling him that they have more power than he could ever have and that they do not in this for the money. They will make it sure that he understands to them he is nothing, and this, of course pisses Harold off, so he in a rage, breaks the linquor bottle, attacks Jeff, stabbing him in the neck, and kills him. Then comes to the realization that he's also just killed another one of his men, and then he holds him like a sweet little bleeding baby, holds him like a sweet little bleeding baby, gets blood all over his clothes, and that's when Victoria arrives at the dock and she hears Harold scream out, and he emerges from the boat just covered in blood and he is frantic. He goes up to Razor trying to get his gun off him, and it's Victoria, one of his other men, and Razor trying to hold Harold back, and that's when she tells him to use Harris to stop this bloody havoc. So they get a hold of him, they calm him down, and that's when they take Harold back to the house and we have this really cool scene that Harold's in the

51:45 shower and he's just glossing over at the events, basically in his head. He's letting the water run down him. They're burning his bloody clothes out back, and he's kind of just trying to figure out what he's gonna do, which I really like that scene. It's a good scene. So they gatherers and burn them in the backyard, and we next see Harold go to Harris's office. Harris and Harold then are next scene at a stock car race and Harold shows him the box with the IRA guys are basically operating out of and we next see them go up the steps into the box. That's when one of the guys in the office says that he's gonna have to talk to the boss because Harold is now offering sixty thousand dollars for the ceasefire and everything to be done with. This is basically payback. Here you go, we're done. And that's when he tells him, you know, you'll have to talk to my boss. He just won the race. He's coming back up to the office. So the guy comes into the office, and this is shortly after Harold is by the front window and he notices that the IRA also have a gunman oul sniper that watches the office. So by this point Harold just takes a step back and the guy comes in and he's like, you know, here's sixty thousand, here's the ceasefire, and you know, the gentleman's like, okay, well, I'm gonna have to count it. He's like, be my guest. So as they're counting it, they're all in the front window, and that's when three of Harold's men burst in with shotguns, blowing these guys away, including Harris. One of them goes through the window out out out onto the track, hits us stock car. The stock car crash into another stock car. There's a huge crash and a huge explosion, and that is the end of those guys. Yeah, the end, serious end. And so that's when Harold decides that, you know, everything's good on them. So they they are going to go back to the hotel and

53:15 talk to Charlie and Tony. So Harold Victoria arrive at the Savoy Hotel as Harold goes in to speak to them, and he finds out that Charlie and Tony are busy packing because they are out of here. They're done. Yeah, that's where they mentioned the line about like this is like being in Vietnam. Vietnam. Yeah, we we can't do business with you. Charlie thanks him for stopping by to say goodbye, and Harold calls them cowardly for not being able to handle the violence, and Tony tells him the country is worse than Cuba was that we were in Cuba. Yeah, so Harold can't get through to them. He goes to lead, but he turns back to call them wankers and states he's looking for someone to conttribute to the common market and that he's already got his eye on a partnership with the German organization, so he leaves Charlie and Tony. Charlie and TONI are splitting back to the US. The deal is off, so Harold thinks that he's on top still, so he goes outside, calling his car back over. But as he gets into it, it is sped off and he realizes there's no Victoria in it.

54:04 He passes another car and sees the Victoria is being held by IRA men, and that's when in the front seat turns around Pierce Brosnan with a silence pistol on him, revealing that he is not gonna get away this time. And they show this long, long, intentionally drawn out moment where they're driving him along. Yeah, at gunpoint, and I have to hand it to him. His facial expressions. They stay on him for like forty five to fifty seconds, and you see him go through like every stage possible. He's like angry, disappointed, afraid, and then accepting it. Yeah, and that is a powerful moment. Yeah, have to say, I love that ending. So Harold grows to accept his fate. There's no getting away from the situation. They cut to black and that is the end of nineteen eighties, The Long Good Friday, and emphasis on long. It's only an hour and fifty four minutes. But here's my thing. Okay, we've done a few episodes. Yeah, and that is the first time we've had a movie that was over an hour twenty that we were done with the breakdown this fast.

55:07 Yeah, that's fair, like there isn't a lot that happened. Well, no, I mean it's it is a dialogue driven film because even though the violence is there, it's very infrequent, and even if it is brutal, again, it's still in frequent. It's a lot of building up to this plot in regards to him working out with his men what's going on, and then them trying to persuade Charlie and Tony to stay and all this stuff. It's it's a lot of character development with these guys in regards to finding out what is going on, who was all involved, and then of course the finale with the showdown. Basically, I think it was the problem for me is there was a lot of build up for there to not be a twist. I get that because having the IRA turn out to be who are behind it? Yeah, the the IRA wasn't a regular part of the movie.

55:52 No, they were like just a concept. Yeah, so I mean it may as well have been the Mongolian Army. It'll be the same, like, oh, but at the same time, you're kept in the dark, just like Hoskins character is, so you're solving this along with him. And and I enjoy his performance in this very much. Oh he's excellent. He's absolutely excellent. But it's just I wish there had been a stronger payoff. Yeah, that's my biggest that's my biggest complaint is like we spent a long time to get there, and we didn't even get like even though I said, like I predicted it would happen, like if Helen Mirren had sold him out or something, we could have at least gotten like a ah shit, But not saying that that would have made the movie perfect right now, But I just wish that I could have gotten something like that, yeah, instead of it just being well, it's the Ira, can't beat the Ira.

56:37 It's like, okay, but the Ira are not even established in the movie, Like in order for you to know how dangerous the Ira are, you have to know outside of the movie who they are. I mean, but we get a hint to the IRA literally with the first bomb, because that's when that's when I can't remember who it is that mentions no, no, it's the pub bomb. Yeah, because they talk about a couple wanting protection, we shoot them off, and that's when Parky is like, wait, wait, two Irish people came in, and that's what he was like, Harold, come talk to me for a second. And he's like, if this is what I think it is. So, I mean, that's about like twenty thirty minutes in, so we do get a hint at it. Yeah, it's just that the IRA is not is not represented in the film until they are already the villain that that was coming after him. Yeah, I mean I get that. That's totally fun. So you want to hear some notes on this film, let's do it, all right. So the budget was about one million, one hundred and eighty two thousand dollars.

57:28 The box office brought in five hundred forty one thousand. Huge Hit. Huge Hit opened on March twenty ninth, nineteen eighty one. In nineteen eighty three, it won Best Most Picture Screenplay for Barry Keith with Thela Poe Award. Long after I don't know Egar Allan Poe Award. Oh yeah. In nineteen eighty two, Hoskins won Best Actor for the Evening Standard British Film Award. Wow, I mean that's a thing. I'm giving a note, right, that's the thing. Yeah. There was an unproduced sequel plan that was going to be Black Easter Monday, twenty years after the events of the first film. No, listen to this, I'm listening. I was just laughing. No, I know, it's a bad title, opening with hoskins character escaping the IRA after the car is pulled over by the police. Shan would then retire to Jamaica, returns to stop East End being taken over by Yardies.

58:12 The film was unfortunately never made. Unfortunately, Hoskins's voice was originally going to be dubbed over by a Wolverhampton actor due to fear of Americans not understanding the London accent. Oh that couldn't possibly happen. Hoskins threatened to sue Jack Gill, so the dubbing was removed. And that's why I couldn't follow. About a fifth of the film. Pierce Broston's feature film debut, but his part was supposed to be completely silent, but he improvised one word of dialogue, which was high I like that. Yeah, I mean I thought Brosden. I could see why people would see him in that and go like, let's try this guy out. Yeah. Hoskins celebrated the line of there's a lot of dignity in that. Going out like a raspberry ripple was improvised. Or excuse me. Hoskins celebrated line of there's a lot of dignity in that.

58:54 Going out like a raspberry ripple was improvised by Hoskins. Hoskins received a family here. One they mentioned that they were putting his buddy's body in an ice cream truck to get it to the abatoire without people knowing the guy was dead. Hoskins received a fan letter from notorious gangster Ronald Gray, who loved the film. Did he he did? Francis Monkman's score is so loud in the final scene it drowns out any noise because director John McKenzie was giving constant direction to Hoskins the entire time. Because the sound levels on both sides needed to sync, producers decided to mute the whole thing and put the score over it, actors being held upside down had to be supported between takes to prevent them from passing out. That makes sense, a lot of sense to prepare for his role. Hoskins then held court with real London gangsters, so he had a he had I think it was like I think they had five or six of them that he met with, and they like and he asked them questions about the character and motivational That seems completely reasonable and responsible. I mean, that's that's that's what the Hoskins does. Okay, fair enough. I know he hung out with a bunch of cartoon characters to be in frame. Right that he did, Yes, that he did. Smart ass. So what are your final thoughts on it? Uh, it's a product of its time.

1:00:02 It's very very slow paced. Yeah, I think that that. Story wise, it's sparse. I think that the greatest thing it has going for it is extremely strong performances, absolutely without a doubt, But that doesn't really carry the movie for me very much. I did find it to be kind of a bore. I thought that when it was good, it was great, and when it wasn't good, it just wasn't anything. I was just kind of like watching them like drive around London. Yeah, and go to the next thing, and go to the next thing. Like I said, the fact that we could sum up the whole film so fast, yeah, says a lot about how many scenes really mattered and how long it took to get to them. You know, I would have to give this at best a stream it. Honestly, I think you could. I feel so bad saying it, but you could miss this movie and be fine. You should just never see it and you be hones ouch Okay. I mean if you love British cinema, or if you're fascinated by like Bob Hoskins or I guess Helen Mirren. I mean that it's the selling point on this for me is Hoskins. I love Hoskins as an actor. I mean, even just going through his resume, there's a lot of movies on there I like, and I think this is, like I said, one of his underrated because this performance. I mean, this movie hinges on his performance. And sure, because of that you get to see a really underrated Early's UK gangster picture.

1:01:20 It builds up like a counterpeg to its bleak and appropriate conclusion. I think the performances in the chemistry of Hoskins and Miron is strong throughout, with Hoskins really showing his craft the whole way through, and the action, like I said, Wallin Frequent is brutal and memorable, especially that final scene with the stock car race. So I think it has a lot of good things. But yeah, I would give this a stream it too. It's not one that's an absolute necessity unless you're into gangster pictures or Hoskins, or even just want to see a movie that really hasn't gotten to do in the last ten years until this new transfer came out. I think that the level of dryness is what kind of holds it back. Is it like it's extremely dry? Yeah? So wold you like to end the show with a couple of recommendations. I have two for this one, both Hoskins vehicles. Mona Lisa nineteen eighty six. This is one I just saw recently. A man recently released from prison manages to get a driving job for a call girl from customer to customer. It's another great performance by Hoskins, one that a lot of people haven't seen, and Michael Kine plays a heavy in it and does really well in it. The other one is another personal favorite, The Cotton Club from nineteen eighty four, directed by Francis Ford Coppola. Meet the jazz musicians, dancers, owner and guests like gangster Dutch Schultz of the Cotton Club in nineteen twenty eight to the nineteen thirties, Harlem, It's got music into it, It's got a lot of action. I mean, you've got a cast that's Richard Gear, Diane Lane, James Ramar, Tom Waits, Bob Hoskins, Fred Gwynn, Gregory Hines. I mean, the list goes on and on for this movie. And it just recently, in like the last six or seven years, got a re release of Francis Ford Copla's complete cut, which is has a lot more music in it and a lot more character development.

1:02:50 So Cotton Club and Mona Lisa great great movies. I cannot recommend enough. Okay, if I had to suggested a movie that is not very good but has a great British actor and uh huh, but is more entertaining than this one, it would be Jaws The Revenge. I mean Michael Cae like, okay, Michael Kainstone, shit, oh shit, Gods of great moment. So that would be my I was being silly. I don't know, I don't have a recommendation. Yeah, but for the record, Jaws four definitely deserves another reappraisal because when we watched it in your backyard a couple of years ago, I was just like, there's a lot more shark action in this movie. I than I remembered. Well, it's just it's not a good film, but it's a highly entertaining film. Yeah. But but see that's that is not a a that doesn't vote will for the long Good Friday that we're talking about Jaws the Revenge now instead. But there you have it, the long good, long good Friday of the nineteen eighties. So that is what we talked about this week. You want to know what we're talking about next weekendriqun sure? So this was our Easter show because long good Friday, right, and uh, you know we're gonna be getting out of March with this episode and going into April. So April second, we are going to be dropping our episode on April Fool's Day, the eighties slash film I do like a not slaughter High unfortunately, thank goodness, because that was the original title. Nice try, I tried, man, But yeah, April Fool's Day will be our next episode. I'm really excited to talk about that because I get to borrow your Blu ray and go through the bonus features. I don't really know a lot about that movie. I wish the original ending would get released, but we'll talk about that next week. Yeah, we'll get We'll dive into those details. So uh uh, what else I mean?

1:04:26 We should probably address if you're wondering where our TikTok channel went as we get to the wrap up of our social media is. Unfortunately, this past week I got an unpleasant message that for some reason of violating community guidelines, our TikTok has been permanently banned. I'm working on hopefully getting that fixed, but I cannot guarantee anything because this is a common issue that I found on a lot of Reddit boards recently. It's a common issue on social media, but TikTok has not made it any easier. They have not well. We have a message that came through at dooevenmovie dot com from Cole Okay. She asked, can you please please please do Hook nineteen ninety one or Urban Legend nineteen ninety eight for my birthday? I love both those movies for my birthday on May eighteenth. Maybe I will love that. Okay, we will. We will absolutely pick one of those, I think, because I think we're getting ready to do our main lineup, so we could we could absolutely fit one of those in. I think so absolutely, because I mean Hoskins is in Hook for one. But I'm a huge, huge, huge fan of Urban Legend. I love that movie You Would Be You. You hadn't even seen two until I showed it to you final cut in the college. I mean they're both in college in their mind because I had seen the Bloody Mary one, Bloody Mary's three. Yeah, and I think Bloody Mary is actually pretty decent. But uh, we'll try to make that happen for you. And if you want to email us, you can email us at do you even movie pod at gmail dot com or go to dooevenmovie dot com and send an email directly on the website. Yes, sir, we are still on YouTube.

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1:07:00 That's how I know that life is truly cruel is because we we cut we make short clips of the show, and we made one of that. Yeah, well we use we use an AI tool to help us find the clips, and it picked that one and I was like, fuck it, I'll put it up. And it's the most viewed shorts ever. Is you suffering? Yeah? So, uh, but can't get it on TikTok because TikTok sucks right now, right now, right now. I mean maybe they'll be bad. Yeah, who knows, we'll see. Now. We'll see you guys next week right here on the movie. So take care and uh, I hope your evening is better paced than the long good Friday. We'll see you next Tuesday.