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Jan. 16, 2024

The Edge (1997) Anthony Hopkins, Alec Baldwin

The Edge (1997) Anthony Hopkins, Alec Baldwin

Henrique and David face the Alaskan wilderness in The Edge (1997), Lee Tamahori’s survival thriller written by David Mamet. Anthony Hopkins stars as billionaire intellectual Charles Morse, who joins fashion photographer Bob Green, played by Alec Baldwin, on a flight into remote country. After the plane crashes, Charles, Bob and Stephen must navigate exposure, hunger and uncertainty while a relentless Kodiak bear tracks them. Knowledge may keep the survivors alive, but suspicion about Bob’s relationship with Charles’ wife threatens to turn the men against one another.
The hosts examine Hopkins’ restrained performance, Baldwin’s volatile charm and Harold Perrineau’s role as Stephen, along with Bart the Bear’s formidable screen presence. They discuss the film’s practical wilderness suspense, sudden animal attacks and Jerry Goldsmith’s expansive score, as well as Mamet’s recurring interest in confidence, manipulation and masculinity. The episode addresses a plane crash, fatal bear violence and suspected infidelity while avoiding a complete map of the story’s human betrayals for listeners who have not seen the film.
The Edge became a favorite through rediscovery. One host first caught only part of it on cable while directing Devil’s Trail, then returned later and recognized how much tension and character detail had been missed; the other found it anew through a Blu-ray revisit. Their memories of cabins, snow and winter viewing feed a broader conversation about why survival stories are so comforting and frightening at once. Henrique and David call the film “Jaws with claws,” using the comparison to explore the predator’s escalating pressure rather than treating the bear as the only danger.
Production discussion distinguishes the story’s Alaska setting from the Alberta locations used for filming and considers the physical demands of staging the crash and bear encounters. The hosts trace Charles’ reliance on remembered facts, Bob’s fear and resentment, and the movie’s question of whether people die in the wilderness because of nature or because they surrender to panic. Originally selected for the podcast’s winter-favorites series, this review celebrates an underrated 1990s thriller built from survival craft, paranoia, moral conflict and two stars testing each other in unforgiving terrain.
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You want to die out here?
Got on ahead. The Edge is a

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thrilling adventure that's got it all.
It's like he's reading our minds. He's

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talking about a wild edge of your
seat, d'antantement that moves like a ball

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of fire. Amboddy Hopkins and Alec
Baldwin delivered their two most powerful performances,

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I'm not a gentle if Jaws with
Claws. The Edge rated R tomorrow on

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the in theaters. In a world
where podcasts reign supreme, two friends dare

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to ask Do You Even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie

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officionado David de Noyer spoiler alert.
Well, hello, dear listeners and viewers.

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Hello, and welcome to a very
chilly, almost frigid edition of Do

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You Even? Movie? I'm of
course your host is Rique Kuto here with

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double D David Denier. I French
his name because it hurts him in his

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spirit. And when you kill a
man's spirit, you kill the man.

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This is true. So dark,
Well, I'm going dark because we're talking

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about a film. Yeah, that
is a lot of fun, it's super

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intense, but I would dare say
it's pretty bleak. Now there are bleaker

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movies, but most of those don't
have a man eating bear. No,

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they don't have a constant element of
betrayal running throughout the entire film. And

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we're of course talking about the Edge
from nineteen ninety seven starring Alec Baldwin and

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Sir Anthony Hopkins. Which is the
last time I'll say that because I don't

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respect the monarchy. We know this
already. Oh well, if I if

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I actually I probably about the monarchy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you

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know I'm not a drinking man,
But if I were a drinking man,

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first thing would be the monarchy.
That's how you know. I was four

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beers in. Okay, you'd be
like, it's all said, like,

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let me tell you what the queen
actually has done. Reminds me of that

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meme that my girlfriend shared to be
a couple of days or a couple of

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weeks ago, that brag and look
at him tired. It was, I'm

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not going to drink tonight me after
one beer. What is nickelback ever done

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to anybody? You know? I
mean, yeah, a lot, but

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but multiple nickelback? Well you said
I owned multiple copies of nickelback, and

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yet wow, I mean, I
mean, okay, rude. It's public

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opinion. I'm not here to I'm
not I'm just here to tell them to

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please calm down, calm down.
But oh my goodness, The Edge is

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one of my favorite movies that I
discovered a little later in life. I

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was actually directing a movie called Devil's
Trail, which was written by my good

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buddy Jeremy Bilts. It was the
first time you watched it, at least

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the first time I watched it.
That wasn't you know, on cable like

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halfway through. So I was directing
this film and it was written by Jeremy

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Bilts, and in it, in
his dialogue, it was about two characters

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who are lost in the woods and
they're filming a reality TV show, and

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in it it basically my character at
one point just he's the comic relief and

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he mentions like, ooh, let's
let's play like it's the Edge, and

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I'll be Anthony Hopkins and you could
be the young supple Alec Baldwin. And

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I love that the line was the
young supple Alec Baldwin. But he is

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young and supple in this. This
is peak Alec Baldwin. I mean,

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obviously, there Alec Baldwin, in
my opinion, has two peaks. He

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has the peak of the nineties,
like nineteen ninety seven, ninety eight is

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kind of peaked Baldwin, and then
the thirty Rock peak. Yes, so

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he's very fortunate he got two.
Yeah, he absolutely did. We'll get

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to him a little later when we
get into the cast, because there's one

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year in particular with him that is
like, you know how Jim Carrey has

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I think it's ninety four that was
the mask Dumb and Dumber in East Ventura.

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Yeah, pretty much. Aldwin beats
him by two more movies in the

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same year, in the same year, not ninety four. But we'll get

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to it. Yeah, we'll get
to Wow. Okay, I see I

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did not recall that. Yeah,
so well, So with that all being

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said, as you, my dear
viewer, who caught me with my phone,

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I forgot to put it away.
My dear viewers, as you were

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watching this, I am actually living
my own version in the edge because I

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am up in northern Michigan. We
pre recorded this well obviously, Yeah,

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and as you were viewing this,
I am in Michigan. This is true

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all the way up at the tip
of the Mitten and because I like to

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be cold. I like to be
very, very cold. I am not

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a man of subtlety. I am
not a man of simplicity. So when

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it's winter, I go vacation where
there's more winter, not less. You

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really do, so that's my move. My move is like, all right,

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well you know if I if I
like snow, yeah, well then

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I'm gonna love being right next to
Lake Huron. So I'm in a cabin

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right now as you're watching this and
having a wonderful time eating flap Jackson bacon

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every morning. We mentioned I mentioned
this a little bit before on the show,

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But I go to I feel like
I almost shouldn't give away the name

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because it's so the place is so
small. You could find me there,

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you could, like you could,
you can't have any psychotically, like the

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place I vacation at is such a
small town that I mean, you'd have

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to know when I was there,
but that if you just looked for an

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Ohio license plate, it'd probably be
b yeah. Like it's a town so

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small that the traffic lights are shut
off during the winter. They just don't

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bother, they just blink. Uh. The grocery store is reduced to short

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hours. I think it's opened six
hours a day. And I'll never forget

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going in and asking the guy do
you have milk? And he just went,

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oh, if you want milk,
you gotta go to Shepwaygan. And

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he was dead serious. He was
like sorry he was he actually said,

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he was like sometimes I have milk
on Mondays. Like, I just love

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the idea of just the store just
has canned foods and liquor, I mean,

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and a big silence says taste great, taste that tastes great together.

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No, I mean they have a
few other The only thing that that place

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had that was shockingly great cold cut
sandwiches, and they always have a soup

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at the day. Oh so h. But the guy lives there, as

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far as I could tell you,
the owner lives there, because when when

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I came out, he had said
like, oh, yeah, I got

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some soup going I'm gonna have He
literally was like, yeah, I've been

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have that for lunch and then it'll
be available right after lunch. That's for

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everybody. That's so great. So
he was like, today it felt like

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split pea. You know, it's
kind of a split pea morning. So

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you can go there and get like
salted meats, canned goods, butter,

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things like that. But otherwise you're
going to Sheboygan. Yeah, Sheboygan's like

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a half an hour away. And
if you don't go to Sheboygan, Sheboygan

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is where you're gonna get like the
big box stores. That's where you're going

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to get like a Walmart or a
Target or something like that. Because if

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you drive straight north further you end
up in you end up in Nacinas City,

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which is beautiful by the way,
but it is it's basically a hangout

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place for people waiting to go to
Mackinac Island, which is a tourist destination,

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and people really enjoy it. So
it's got a really cute movie theater

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which I went to one time and
saw the movie Megan there. It's got,

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you know, a few fast food
restaurants, a few really nice restaurants,

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but it doesn't have like a Walmart, it doesn't have a Best Buy,

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it doesn't have any of those things. It's a little town. And

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then if you want the next closest
town, you kind have to cross the

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bridge into the Upper Peninsula and go
to Saint Ignatius. I think, as

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I say it which has a nice
cigar store I went to. I want

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a couple of cigars, but overall
not really worth driving across the like five

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mile long bridge. But that so
that being said, you know, I

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pack everything I can. Yeah,
And I tell you I lean so heavy

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into those I don't know the tropes
of winter. Ye. Like, I

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show up and I'm like, all
right, got two dozen eggs, got

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a pound of bacon, got one
of those big loafs of freakin' aumish butter.

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I got canned soup, I got
stewing stuff, and I'm already to

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go. That's what I do.
Yeah, And I show up and I

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show up at by like big parkas
you're in the epitome of a Red Dead

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NPC. You are the epitome of
the Red Dead NPC. My god,

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I mean when you camera doing hey
mister, hey, mister hel help over

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here, and then you tried to
steal my horse. Yeah, I did.

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I appreciate you only shooting me in
the leg. You're a good guy.

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You're a good guy. So but
no, so I love snowiness.

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And so only about two years ago
did I discover, living in southern Ohio,

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that if I really wanted that wintry
getaway, which I have fond memories.

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It's kind of like, you know, there are in a lot of

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ways, I'm like Dickens, but
no, but Dickens. Dickens grew up

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in a time period the guy wrote
Christmas Carol and some seconds. He grew

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up in a time when there was
actually like a really severe cold front all

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through Europe. So wintertime was very
very cold and it started early, which

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is why his vision of Christmas was
all snow and cold and ice, when

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in reality this is going to bother
some people. Sorry, but Ohio's weather

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dateon Ohio in particular, what we're
based out of, is actually very similar

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to London, England. It's actually
very similarly temperate. So it's more like

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you might get snow in December,
but January February, that's when winter happens.

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Yeah, I feel like white Christmases
for us are very hit and miss.

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Well, we've had him a few
times in a row. On one

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hand, for the most part.
On one well, I mean, if

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you're going to talk last five years, we had two in a row.

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Did Yeah, this year we didn't
have one. We had two in a

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row before that, and they were
both at the last minute. Ye,

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the first snow of the year was
like the twenty second h That was when

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I got to drive in a freaking
patch of ice to Christmas Eve at my

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sister's house. Well, I remember
because that one year it was just a

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dusting of snow one Christmas morning,
because my social media all said like big

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shout out to Mother Nature for finishing
off my Christmas decorations. But anyway,

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so but I so much like Dickens
had his experience. I would go to

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New Hampshire for Christmas a lot as
a kid, and the snow is it's

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crazy, and it gets really tall, and it would get to the point

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where, like we would my dad
would would be like, oh hell,

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I ran out of cigarettes when I
was visiting him, and his buddy Shirley

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would just pull up his fucking ski
do would be like, all right,

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where are we fucking going? Oh
my god, and we would get on

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the skid on the snowmobile and we
would ride around because that was what you

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would what you could get anywhere.
Yeah, and you didn't need a truck

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with chains or whatever. So anyway, my point is one year I needed

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a writing hiatus or escape rather and
I not a writing hiatus. But uh,

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and I decided to go to northern
Michigan. Yeah, and everybody was

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like, are you seriously going to
drive five hours north in the winter.

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But then the other thing is people
were like, is it even it's not

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even snowy here, like it's even
gonna be any good? And then I

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got up there, I was like, it's not the same world. Once

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you get past like the middle of
Michigan, it is different. It snows

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all the time, it gets very
cold, really suddenly, and there's very

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little warning. The first week I
was up there, it predicted they predicted

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snow two days out of seven,
and it snowed every single day I was

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there. But it snowed severely two
days seven. So it's like anyway,

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But my point is, so I
never really realized that as a Ohioan,

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I had an ultimate snowy getaway just
waiting for me slightly north. You're making

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me want to take this trip at
some point. Well, I mean I

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would bring you up. You,
I mean, you ain't coming home,

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but you're welcome to come up with
me, fair enough. But and the

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other great thing I mentioned before is
the whole state's like on sale. Everything's

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cheaper. Everything's either cheaper or more
expensive. There's no in between. The

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isolation aspect of it would give me
when we went to we went to Smoky

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Mountains about two three years ago for
Ali's birthday and I just had a great

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time just being in a cabin and
just not having anything to do that.

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I just love that love. I
love being in a cabin that's thirty nine

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dollars a night. That's even better. Yeah, and it's heated and has

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Wi Fi. That's even better.
So no, it's It's one of my

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favorite things to do. And I
have been overworking myself recently. I love

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what we're doing here at do you
even movie? Yeah, but on top

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of all the other things I do, it can be a bit of a

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bear. Papa needs a break and
hence a bit of a bear. Yeah,

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is our lead and to talking about
the edge, So Dave give us

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those beautiful detail so before I get
to the details. My first time seeing

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this movie, by the way,
I this was this wasn't a point in

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my life when you know, I
had money, I was working, I

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was still still in high school and
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busting into a little room and going
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a decent store because I mean,
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was called It's for your Entertainment.
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than Sam good physical media store.
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really good selection. So it got
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so often. I think you can
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buy on the day. I would
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either there that I hadn't seen before, or stuff that, like I saw

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it's gotta be good. Well tow
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at best Buy if it was under
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thing. The Edge was one of
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I'd never seen it on TV,
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it was like a six ninety nine
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it, took it home, watched
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the most part, really never went
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or seven years later, when for
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Blu Ray, got the Blu Ray, and then realized how much I freaking

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loved this. Was that influenced by
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well could That was around the time
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Very well could have. You could
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of doing that where it's like there's
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I remember it being good, but
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you need to go watch it.
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one I remember when you got the
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my place because I had watched it
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crop. Yeah, because this shot
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so it's like super wide screen.
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that, but on on cable a
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other places they would crop in a
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old school pan and skin and make

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it square, kid, make it
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it for minute. I don't know. I don't know if it was just

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maybe I was still a little too
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infidelity aspect of it, because to
properly place the feelings Alec Baldwin was making

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you feel inside could be that.
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it was one of those movies that
second, like you know, a rewatch

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on it made me look like I
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stupid, this is really good.
That's that was me with a few movies

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like Straight into Darkness. Yeah,
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I was like, what the hell
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think this was just okay? Dead
Presidents was one the first time I ever

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saw it, I did not like
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don't know if it was just because
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movie is so stupid good. I
love everything about it. Do you Even

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movie will be right back, welcome
back to do you even movie? Yeah?

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Yeah, so yeah, The Edge
is one of those. But yeah,

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getting into the pertinent deeds. We
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ninety seven, one hour, fifty
seven minutes, rated R. This film

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is directed by Lee Tomahorri. He
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the sound department. He was a
boom operator on a film called Skin Deep

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in seventy eight, did boom operation
for Sons of hern Home Goodbye pork Pie,

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Treasure of Yankee, Zephyr Battle Truck
in eighty two, goes to do

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second unit on a film called Wild
Horses in eighty three. Oh that's a

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good film. Wild Horses a good
film. Really good film. Merry Christmas,

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mister Lawrence trustpasses eighty four, The
Quiet Earth in eighty five, and

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then not until the nineties that he
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In ninety four. He goes on
to do Maholland Falls, which is

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a little a fun, little gangster
movie with a Nick nol I've always enjoyed.

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I be down there. Then he
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that up with The Sopranos in two
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did Along came of Spider two thousand
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Love Along came Spider too. Yeah, kiss the girls, Kiss the Girls,

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and along came of Spider. Absolute
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I mean, even though there was
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one that was just called Alex Cross. But the Morgan, Yeah, Alex

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Cross that Yeah. So then he
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two. Triple X stated of the
Union two thousand and five, next with

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Nicholas Cage and O seven, The
Devil's Double twenty eleven, The Patriarch in

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twenty sixteen, does a couple episodes
of Billions in twenty twenty, Wow,

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and this guy's been everywhere. Man
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The Convert in twenty twenty three,
or that was shot in twenty twenty three,

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So he got his start working on
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on this is David Mammott. He
was the right playwright, very famous,

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Bamo the Mammot. Hold on,
let's give it up for David Manon.

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David Mammon is one of those names
that if you don't know, shame on

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the man who gave us what's my
name? My name's fuck you? Oh

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boy, did he do that?
I love that he No, I love

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him because well he's a phenomenal writer. Yeah. His dialogue is second to

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none. Yeah, but he gives
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Cadillac car. Yeah, second place
is a set of state time third places,

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you're fired. We're quoting Glengarry Glenn
Ross, like crazy. I still

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have a coffee mug that my boss
legitimately got me for Christmas one year that

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says coffee closers. Yeah, no, that's a that's a good one too.

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I used to joke, So my

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mother had a high powered, somewhat
high powered corporate job. Yeah, and

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I used to joke whenever she was
fed up with her employees, I was

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like, just bring me in,
don't explain who I am at all.

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I will fire anybody and I'll do
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Yeah. My mom was like,
the only problem with that is I

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have a human heart. Yeah,
And I was like, I don't have

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that problem. Let's akon Aperfols joke. Congratulations, third place, You're fired.

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But no, no, so David
Mammontt, Yeah, he's got You're

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about to read a list of very
good films. Of course. Obviously,

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David Mammontt was first a playwright player. I was incredibly famous. But his

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plays always translated so interestingly. And
notice, because I'm a realistic film fan.

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M hmm, I said, they
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They aren't a great no, but
a lot of them are so I

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mean, god down minute the writer. For his writing credits, he was

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he had The Life in the Theater
in nineteen seventy nine. He did the

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screenplay for The Postman Always Rings Trice
remake in eighty one, The Verdict in

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eighty two, About Last Night,
nineteen eighty six, The Untouchables, Yes,

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Brian de Palma is The Untouchables.
He wrote the screenplay for Right That

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I did not know, Yeah.
Eighty seven. He goes on to be

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the writer and director of House of
Games in eighty seven, as well does

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directing again with Things Change in eighty
eight, We're No Angels in eighty nine.

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Glendarry Glenn Ross ninety two, HAFA
ninety two. He is a reproduction

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of Life in the Theater in ninety
three, American Buffalo ninety six, Wag

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the Dog ninety seven, ron In
ninety eight, Lansky ninety nine, Director

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and writer of State in Maine in
two thousand, writer of Hannibal in two

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thousand and one. I always forget
that that, Okay, I try not

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to be a negative guy. Yeah. That sounds like they were desperate for

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it to be good. Yeah,
So they like just offered him a pile

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of money and he just did what
he could with it. Harrott Thomas Harris,

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I believe was originally supposed to write
the screenplay, but he like completely

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turned it down after a while,
and to then they gave him more money

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to I think complete either the next
novel or the novel he was working on.

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I can't remember. Do you remember
on the show Entourage when they were

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down in South America filming mediem Medians, and they were like, we're screwed.

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have to come up with a new

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ending. So they ended up just
going like, well, get the best

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writer we can get because we have
to because they spent so much money.

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So they're like, uh, Andrew
Sorkin. So Andrew Sorkin like gets on

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a plane to fly there and they
give him apot. I think they said

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they give him like a half a
million dollars. But then he gets there

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and the director ended up writing it, well I read it, it was

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good. Uh see you guys later. I feel like I feel like that's

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almost what happened here is they were
like, mister Mammot, we will give

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you a suitcase of money if you
will please make Hannibal not suck. Because

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I recently revisited Hannibal, and as
somebody who has probably seen that movie three

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times, now, wait you go
as somebody who has eaten human flesh,

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it is It's a mess. My
god, it was just a mess.

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That was one of those movies I
watched as a teen and was like this

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isn't what is wrong with this?
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films of mammontt in two thousand and
one, he does Heist with Gene Hackman

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Danna de Vito. It's a movie
you haven't seen that I really would love

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to see it. I mean,
I love a movie with a simple title

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like Heist. Yeah. Spartan two
thousand and four, which is a little

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kidnap story he did with Val Kilmer, and he does Edmund in two thousand

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and five. Oh, he wrote
Edmund. Yes, he wrote Edmund.

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David Mammont wrote Edmund. That's too
much. Yeah, he wrote that.

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I've just thrilled and amazed that Stuart
Gordon got the direct a Mammot script.

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No kidding, right, that's amazing. If you a listener have not seen

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the two thousand and five film with
William It's basic called Edmund. It's really

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very good. It's very good.
Directed by the man, the myth,

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the legend, rest in peace,
Stuart Gordon, the man behind Reanimator,

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the man behind dolls, the man
behind robot jocks, the man behind so

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many honey I shrunk the kids wrote
it. Well, he didn't direct that

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one, to know, he just
wrote it with him and Dennis Paoli wrote

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it. Who were the team behind
Reanimator? He had so many fascinating and

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creative films. And Stuart Gordon was
truly a genius. And he started in

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theater, which maybe has a reason
why Mammott and him were working together.

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But he had a weird era in
the early two thousands where he got movies

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you just wouldn't expect made and they
just kind of came and went. Movie

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called Deathbed, that's not death produced. He didn't direct it, Yeah,

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that's true. No, but I'm
thinking more of King of the Ants.

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Oh, King the Ants. Yeah, I'm thinking of King of the Ants.

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I'm thinking of I love everybody got
to see a cringe? When do

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you like? He didn't direct it? Nobody did King of the Ants.

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Yeah, he did Edmund, he
did Stuck, Stuck yep, and those

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three movies kind of came and went. Even though I haven't seen Stuck,

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but Edmund and King of the Ants
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King of the Ants, he's a
god damn blue ray release King of the

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Ants. Seek out King of the
Ants. Yeah, first film produced by

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the company that would become the Global
Asylum, the company behind Shark Joda Nato,

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so very much worth your time.
But yeah, I had no idea

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he wrote Edmund So then The Unit
in two thousand and six, the TV

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series which he also directed. He
did the Phil Spector movie for HBO in

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twenty thirteen, and then has one
coming out in twenty twenty three, or

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that he did in twenty twenty three
called The Petitent. So Mammott has just

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had a line of wins and losses, but amazing content in my opinion,

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Yeah, a lot, a lot, a lot. So wrapping us up

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on our crew. We also had
the cinematographer Donald McAlpine. Now, this

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gentleman, from what I can tell
from his resume, this is an oxploitation

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guy because he was the lighting cameraman
on the Adventures of Barry Mackenzie in nineteen

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seventy two. Does Barry Mackenzie Holds
his Own in seventy four, Patrick in

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seventy eight, the movie about the
telekinetic man and a coma causing all kinds

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of mayhem, Money Movers in seventy
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eighty one, Tempest eighty two,
Moscow on the Hudson in eighty four.

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Then he goes into his cinematographer career
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eighty six, Predator eighty seven,
Moving eighty eight, Parenthood eighty nine,

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The Hard Way ninety one, Career
Opportunities, Medicine Man, Patriot Games,

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May Without a Face, Missus,
Doubtfire Clear and Present Danger, Nine Months,

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Romeo and Juliet, The Edge,
Step Mom, Mulan Rouge, The

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Time Machine, Anger Management, Peter
Pan, Chronicles of Narnia, X Men,

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Orts's Wolverine Enders Game. Then he
goes back to Australia and does The

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Dressmaker in twenty fifteen, Alli's Wedding
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The Portable Door in twenty twenty three. He's working exclusively in Australia now.

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They probably want to be around his
family or something, but it sounds

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like a guy who built his career
in Australia. K Hollywood Now. And

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this is something we love to point
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cinematographers? As I often say,
everybody, movie's got to have a camera,

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it's gotta have it pointed, somebody
to point it. And that's an

393
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:17.680
oversimplification of what cinematographers do. As
a cinematographer, I could say that but

394
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it is amazing how many times you'll
look up a cinematographer and be like,

395
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.000
I wonder what they've done, and
be like, okay, so they did

396
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.359
make In County Jail for Roger Gorman
and then Beethoven. You know, that's

397
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:33.680
just an example of yeah, I
made that up, but it really is,

398
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:37.799
Like do you remember that time I
was I was watching this as forty

399
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the j photography, and I was
like, huh, the DP, Like

400
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:42.839
the cinematography is really interesting. I
wonder who did it? So I clicked

401
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:48.720
on him. His first film was
Stripped to Kill Two Live Girls. Yep.

402
00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.799
So you never know who you're gonna
get when it comes to cinematography,

403
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:59.400
because everybody has to start somewhere.
Dean Kundy became synonymous with master cinematography.

404
00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:02.720
He started on Halloween, but he
also did a few B movies before that.

405
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:04.480
I think he did Satan's Cheerleader Cheerleaders
Yip, which was, you know,

406
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:08.480
in a lot of areas considered almost
a porno. Yeah, even though

407
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:11.240
it was not, it was not. But my point is like he started

408
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.559
there, then he ends up doing
Back to the Future Jurassic Park. Yes,

409
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:18.799
he becomes he becomes Bob Zamechus's guy, he becomes Steven Spielberg's guy,

410
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.400
becomes Dick Donner's guy for a minute, he's That's the way it goes.

411
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.119
So that's why we always throw in
the cinematographer's details, because you're gonna find

412
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.599
stuff like that. We're gonna be
like, oh he did, Patrick,

413
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:33.200
Yeah, and going back to Patrick. If you are not familiar with the

414
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:37.079
term of osploitation, that is Australian
exploitation films, there is a fantastic documentary

415
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:40.599
I have seen countless times. It's
literally one of the movies I throw on

416
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:42.920
if I don't know what to watch, called Not Quite Hollywood, and it

417
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:48.400
is the story of the ousplitation boom
from the eighties into the late nineties,

418
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.920
all about the Australian filmmaking that was
going on that brought us Matt Max,

419
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.079
the Barry Mackenzie movies, Halling three, Fuck. I mean, there's so

420
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:59.000
many that you can just name Razorback. I mean it goes on and on.

421
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:00.759
Yeah, there were a lot of
really interesting ones, and the biggest

422
00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:06.039
one that nearly everybody knows is Mad
Max because Mad Max was straight up an

423
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:11.920
ouspilitation movie that became national and international
as well. So wow, well,

424
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.359
hell of a hell of a DP. And I want to say, the

425
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:22.200
way this movie looks, I really
like, it's not that hard to DP

426
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:25.440
a movie. I'm sure that he
worked very hard. I'm not trying to

427
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:30.079
pick on him. But you're in
a beautiful location in the mountains in winter.

428
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.640
The best situation you can have as
a DP if you're shooting outside is

429
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:38.240
a cloudy day, because then the
light is softened. Then you can throw

430
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.480
some light, you can bounce some
light, you can do a few other

431
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.960
things. But that being said,
I always felt like watching this film,

432
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:51.000
he maximized the use of natural light, but what he really maximized was the

433
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:55.680
use of that scope space of the
ultra wide screen. I felt that the

434
00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:00.119
film looked incredible. Yeah, and
I can imagine how disappointing it would you

435
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.200
to see it all like a four
x three cross. It was still pretty

436
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.440
boss. Yeah. But so moving
into the film itself, let's go with

437
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.640
the twentieth century Fox DVD synopsis of
The Edge. A plane crash in the

438
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:17.359
freezing Alaskan wilderness pits intellectual billionaire Charles
Morris against self established fashion photographer Robert Green

439
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:21.559
in a brutal struggle for survival.
Each soon discover the greatest danger resides not

440
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:25.279
in nature, but in human fear, treachery, and quite possibly murder.

441
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.000
This nerve wracking adventure, filled with
NonStop action and gripping suspense, is a

442
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:33.200
harrowing tale for one of America's leading
screenwriters, David mammontt Well. First of

443
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.920
all, spoiler alert, Yes,
I mean hinting at the man versus man

444
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.839
thing. That's kind of a subtle
thing that gets less subtle every act.

445
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:48.039
Yeah. Absolutely, And this film
has very very clear acts. Yes,

446
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:49.680
And as a first act, second
act, and the third act you don't

447
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.680
even get to the snowy stuff till
the middle of the second act absolutely,

448
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.519
which is kind of awesome. It
makes you earn it. Ooh, it

449
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.480
absolutely is my synopsis. After being
stranded in the Alaskan wilderness and they're playing

450
00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.799
crashes, two men have to decide
to put their differences aside and work together

451
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.039
to survive and make it back home. But as the temperature continues to drop,

452
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:08.920
their blood beginst the boil, and
a Kodiak bear is not their only

453
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:14.079
enemy to face in the wilderness.
I mean slightly less spoilery, so I'll

454
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:15.960
take it. No, but I
mean that's a pretty good synopsis. Well,

455
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.680
thank you. So moving into the
cast, we have three big names

456
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.039
in this. We're gonna start with
Sir Anthony Hopkins, who plays Charles Morrise

457
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.440
one hundred and forty five credits on
his resume. By the way, I

458
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.880
thought it'd be more. I thought
it would be more. Baldwin beats him

459
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.240
by four. That doesn't surprise me, So I guess he's not a sellout

460
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.400
piece of crap like Michael Kane.
This is a selective now a selective filmography.

461
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.640
So Fleer in Your Ear starts his
career in nineteen sixty seven, The

462
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:44.359
Lion in the Winter sixty eight.
He does Hamlet in sixty nine, The

463
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.480
Looking Glass War in the seventy When
eight Bells Toll in seventy one, Juggernaut

464
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:51.319
seventy four, Audrey Rose in seventy
seven, which I forgot about, The

465
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:55.400
Oh Yeah, Yeah Yeah Magic in
nineteen seventy eight, The Elephant Man in

466
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.680
nineteen eighty, The Bounty nineteen eighty
four, The Dawning in eighty eight,

467
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.799
The Tenth Man in eighty eight is
well, Desperate Hours in nineteen ninety,

468
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.720
Silence of the Lambs ninety one,
Free Jack in ninety two, Bromstokers,

469
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:08.400
Dracula ninety two, Chaplain of ninety
two, Legends of the Fall, Nixon

470
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:12.359
The Edge, Amistad, Mask of
Zorro, Meet Joe Black, Instinct,

471
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.680
Titus, all of which are in
the nineties. Yeah, the nineties were

472
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.599
his hated. Well. Yeah,
it was just NonStop after after silence of

473
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.200
the Lambs for him. That was
when America was like, we love you,

474
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.880
Anthony Hopkins, do a lot of
cool stuff here. Yeah. And

475
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.519
yet later in his career, you
got Mission Impossible two in two thousand,

476
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.480
how the grin Stool, Christmas two
thousand, Hannibal in two thousand and one,

477
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.319
Hearts in Atlantis, Red Dragon,
The Human Stain, Alexander, World's

478
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.599
fastest Indian fracture, Slipstream, which
I want to bring up Slipstream for a

479
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:42.400
second, because did you know that
he is also a composer. I had

480
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:48.400
no idea about that. So Andre
Rayou did a little special and I want

481
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.200
to say the early two thousands where
he actually played a piece that Hopkins had

482
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.160
composed. I remember seeing that viral
video. I remember seeing that, and

483
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.960
yeah, he seemed very moved.
He did the entire score for Slipstream in

484
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.319
two thousand and seven, so when
he first got his noting for his composing

485
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.839
BeO Wolf two thousand and seven,
The Wolfman twenty ten, The Right Thor

486
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:12.599
Hitchcock Read two thor Dark World,
Noah Misconduct, Transformers, The Last Night,

487
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:17.400
Westworld, and Freud's Last Session,
which just came out last year.

488
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.400
I would like to see Freud's Last
Session because as you named those, I

489
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.119
started to realize that only Hitchcock was
any good in my opinion. I liked

490
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:30.640
Red too well, well any good
meaning like, of course, there's a

491
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.079
reason to like the Transformer movies.
They're fun, they're entertaining, they're wild,

492
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:40.920
but they're not Titus. No,
I enjoyed Titus. That's my point.

493
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:42.200
I like Titus as well. They're
not the Elephant Man, they're not

494
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.880
Dracula, They're not you know,
I will say, I do like twenty

495
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:51.359
tens wolf Man with Nisio del Toro. Well, that makes one. I

496
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:53.480
saw it in theaters all the time
with it, I watched it. I

497
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:59.359
didn't hate it. I didn't love
it, though. That's the unfortunate regual.

498
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:13.200
Do you even movie will be right
back, welcome back to do you

499
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:20.000
even movie. So moving on to
our second lead, we have mister Alec

500
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.319
Baldwin one hundred and forty nine credits. He plays Robert Green in this film.

501
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:25.559
He had the Doctors in nineteen eighty, Sweet Revenge in eighty four,

502
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.480
Hotel in nineteen eighty five, Knots
Landing in eighty five, She's having a

503
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:31.920
baby in eighty eight. No,
yeah, he wasn't that. This is

504
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:36.920
the year, so she's having a
baby nineteen eighty eight, Beatlejuice nineteen eighty

505
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.440
eight, Married to the Mob nineteen
eighty eight, Working Girl nineteen eighty eight,

506
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:45.440
Talk Radio nineteen eighty eight, Hunt
for Right October nineteen ninety, Miami

507
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.680
Blues ninety Glen Barry Ross ninety three, Malice ninety three, The Getaway ninety

508
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.559
four, The Shadow ninety four,
The jur Ghost of Mississippi, Mercury Rising,

509
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.640
notting Hill, Thomas and The Magic
Railroad, State Maine, Royal,

510
00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:00.519
Tenebombs, Adventures of Pluto, Nash, The Cat Hat, The Cooler SpongeBob

511
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:05.160
SquarePants Movie, The Aviator, Fun
with Dick and Jane, Rise of the

512
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.920
Or, The Departed, The Good
Shepherd, My Sister's Keeper, Hick,

513
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.480
Rock of Ages, Rise of The
Guardians, Still Alice, Concussion, The

514
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.759
Boss, Baby, the Public,
Drunk Parents, and Tar in twenty twenty

515
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:20.720
two. Of those last few,
I like Drunk Parents, Get Out,

516
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.920
really Fun Flag. But yeah,
no Baldwin. At this point in Baldwin's

517
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:28.640
career, he is he's had his
heyday, but he's still on his way

518
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.839
up somehow. Yeah no, I
would agree. So our last and final,

519
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:36.440
I'm gonna give a little more information
to this poor chap. This is

520
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:39.240
Bart the Bear, who plays the
bear in the movie. I thought Bart

521
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:44.000
the Bear was the old guy who
owns the cabin at the beginning. That's

522
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.440
that Bart the Bear. That's LQ
LQ Thomas. His name LQ Jones.

523
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:51.759
I love el Jones, LQ Jones. That's gonna be my name when I'm

524
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.599
a private investigator. I could see
that. But Bart the Bear, he

525
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:58.680
was one of the most remarkable animal
stars. Born in nineteen seventy seven,

526
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.000
He's one of Hollywood's most from our
Animal stars. Brought to the Utah animal

527
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:07.280
trainer Doug Seuss and Lynn Seuss,
he was fifteen hundred pounds and nine nine

528
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:10.119
and seven and a half of a
feet tall by the end of his career.

529
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:14.000
Wow, so he was a lot
like Orson Wells, a lot like

530
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.760
Gorson Wells. But sorry, that's
pretty funny. But now to give you

531
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.760
perspective on Bart the bear. He
worked with the likes of Robert Redford,

532
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.400
Morgan Freeman, John Candy, dan
ackroyd Ethan Hawke, Steven Seagal, Brad

533
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:30.599
pitt, Alec Baldwin, Anthony Hopkins. They even quoted Hopkins. Lenz SEUs

534
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.239
quoted Hopkins as being absolutely brilliant with
Bart acknowledging he respected him like a fellow

535
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.239
actor, would spend hours just looking
at him and admiring him. And in

536
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:44.400
ninety eight he made a public appearance
at the sevenieth Academy Awards and handed Mike

537
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:50.320
Myers an envelope on stage. Wow, Yeah, I would be I would

538
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.800
like some risk pay if I was
in that situation. He was the spokes

539
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:59.000
bear for Vital Ground Foundation, which
is a nonprofit conservation organization that works to

540
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:02.519
preserve threaten white wildlife habitats along the
Rocky Mountains and Kodiak Island, North America,

541
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:07.519
and once Bart unfortunately caught cancer,
he was served as the spokes bear

542
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:13.000
for the Animal Cancer Center at Colorado
State University. He was unfortunately euthanized in

543
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.800
two thousand and seven when the cancer
took away his appetite and his ability to

544
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.840
use his clause, they had to
put him down peacefully. But Bart the

545
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.199
Bear's legacy carries on with the films
here, which were Wind Talker in nineteen

546
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.400
eighty, The Clave of the The
Clan of the Cave Bear in nineteen eighty

547
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:30.119
six. What did he play in
Clave of the Cambata Bear, Benji the

548
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:34.960
Hunted in eighty seven, Berserker,
The Vinegar Cid released Berserker, that movie's

549
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.559
Insane, Great Outdoors eighty eight,
The Bear in eighty eight, Young Riders

550
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:42.039
eighty nine, Giant of Thunder,
Mountain in nineteen ninety, White Fang ninety

551
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.480
one, Homeward Bound, The Incredible
Journey Home ninety three, On Deadly Ground

552
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:49.079
ninety four, Legends of the Fall
ninety four, Walking Thunder ninety five,

553
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.800
Twelve Monkeys in ninety five, Homeward
Bound two, Lost in San Francisco ninety

554
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:54.880
six, The Edge of ninety seven, and then his final feature was Meet

555
00:35:54.920 --> 00:36:00.159
the Needles The Needles in nineteen ninety
eight. Huh yeah, Barth the Bear

556
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.920
is one of those bears that you've
seen a movie he's in one of those

557
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:07.800
bears. He was pretty much the
Bear the Bear most films in the nineties,

558
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.960
so much so that Bart the Bear
two is actually not one of his

559
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.920
offspring. He just carries the notoriety
of having that same power for the films

560
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:17.440
that Barth the Bear two is in. And I think Bart the Bear we

561
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:22.639
lost around the late twenty tens.
Yeah you just oh you mean Bart the

562
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:23.639
Bear the second? Yeah, the
second? Okay, gotcha, gotcha?

563
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:28.159
Yeah, Bartha Bear two, oh
not as well, not as well.

564
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.159
But no, do you want to
get into the edge riquet? I mean,

565
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.079
I mean I either we should or
we shouldn't at this point. So

566
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:40.719
The Edge is a film that is
the absolute adventure struggle between two We have

567
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:45.559
a billionaire and we have a fashion
photographer. The film starts as we see

568
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:47.840
a pan across an airport, an
Alaska airport, as we meet Charles,

569
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:51.920
who is played by Anthony Hopkins,
arriving with his wife Mickey, who was

570
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.840
played by Ella McPherson. He goes
into a hangar and a mechanic comments on,

571
00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:00.280
man, I'd love to own her. I I love to said,

572
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.039
he said, like I'd love to
get my hands, get hands on her

573
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:05.599
that on that. Yeah, I'd
love to get my hands on that,

574
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.199
and Hopkins is like, excuse me, and he's like the plane which which

575
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.639
but it was fun but it's extra
funny because when you think about you're like,

576
00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:14.239
oh, yeah, that's like a
really expensive jet, like I bet

577
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.199
he would like to fly the Mechanic
with. Yes. Absolutely. So we

578
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:20.760
meet Roberts, we meet Charles,
and we meet Mickey and the rest of

579
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:25.039
the crew, which includes Kathleen Whittholt
who's played Carrie Anne and Roadhouse. And

580
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:29.559
we also what is her name in
Witchboard? She plays the psychic and Witchboard

581
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:30.199
that I can't think of the name
of. I can't think of the name

582
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.679
of that, but yeah, she's
the one says t TFNA to For now.

583
00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:37.360
We also have Harold Perrinew who most
will know is Augustus Hill in Oz.

584
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.840
He is in this as well.
Yes, and he's super good and

585
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:45.400
I feel so bad for him his
character. He feels like the insert for

586
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:52.000
the audience in the movie not prepared
scared as hell. Meanwhile, Alec Baldwin

587
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.159
and Anthony Hopkins have their own this
old, their own thing going on.

588
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:58.239
Yeah, but his character is just
kind of stuck in the middle of a

589
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:02.000
really horrific reality. Absolutely is.
So they're flying in the plane and Baldwin's

590
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:06.880
talking about this nice watch that he
got and Anthony Hopkins is reading a survival

591
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:08.840
book. They land and they meet
Styles, who was played by l Q.

592
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.559
Jones. You may know l Q
Jones as he is the bounty hunter

593
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.880
in the Mask of Zorro. He's
the casino or one of the casino inspectors

594
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:20.960
and casino that busts Robert de Niro
for not having his license. Ah,

595
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:23.719
and he's also that old guy in
every movie that you know, Yeah,

596
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.519
yeah, pretty much. You know
him by the mustache. But they land,

597
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.960
they meet Styles at his cabin.
He walks them through a beautiful cabin.

598
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:35.480
Inside they've got full bedrooms, kitchen, everything, and they go inside

599
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:37.800
the cabin and they're going over everything. Robert then points out a photo that's

600
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.199
on the wall and he says that
he wants to mimic the style. You

601
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:43.199
can't get the pictures like this.
This is an old picture, and that's

602
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.400
when Styles tells him that picture was
actually taken a few months ago by himself.

603
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:49.679
He took it last summer. Yeah, of a Native American named Jack

604
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.280
who is a hunter out in the
area. And that's when Alec Baldwin kind

605
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.159
of gets a laugh out of Anthony
Hopkins. So Styles points out the photo

606
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.599
has taken a few months, Mack. And also this is the point where

607
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.639
we can see how smart chart.
So Charles is a billionaire e centric who

608
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:06.320
basically knows everything, as they say, yeah, because he's when he finds

609
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.280
an interest in something, he just
immediately dives all the way in. Oh,

610
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:13.360
so it's you. I mean,
I can I can be a savant

611
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.960
at times. I have been known
to get a little overboard. So but

612
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.400
but it's it's an incredible scene.
If you don't mind, I'll break this.

613
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.280
So basically, the gentleman who owns
this lodge that is I mean completely

614
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:28.760
isolated, only accessible by an airplane, by a bushplane. Yes, that

615
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:30.679
they get to the point where they
don't even have locks on the doors.

616
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.639
Yeah, don't bother y. And
during the summer, everybody hunts and traps.

617
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.400
In the winter, very few people
hunt and trap because it's so treacherous.

618
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.199
Yeah. But at one point he
says like oh he knows everything.

619
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.800
He goes okay, and he pulls
this ore like a boat oar off the

620
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.599
wall, and it has what was
it on the one side? Panther?

621
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:51.039
Panther? Yes, has a panther
on the ore. And he says,

622
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.639
then what's on the other side of
this ore? And Hopkins in just that

623
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.280
perfect moment, without a moment,
he just he just sits, there goes

624
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.320
rabbit smoking a pipe and everybody's like, well, and then he turns it

625
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.320
around. There's a rabbit smoking a
pipe on the other side there. How

626
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:07.719
did you know? He's like,
He's like, it's not it's not psychic

627
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.320
ability or anything. It's just a
little bit of luck. It's an old

628
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.599
symbol, it's a famous symbol.
But they mentioned why is the rabbit smoking

629
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.599
a pipe? And he says,
because he knows he's smarter than the panther.

630
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:23.599
And that is the beginning of a
lot of there's we're not going to

631
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:28.000
be able to tell you all the
foreshadowing of this film much we will.

632
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:32.159
We will do our best to inform
you of things that we really have caught

633
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:37.639
in this film for multiple viewings.
But there's a lot to catch and a

634
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.599
lot that's easy to miss. But
that is a moment that really tells you

635
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:47.639
that our main character is very learned
he's very book smart, but he often

636
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.760
mentions that he feels like everything,
all, all that he knows in the

637
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.400
world is theoretical. Yeah, and
that also plays a pretty big part and

638
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:02.280
one big plus to this character.
It is so common. It is basically

639
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:07.719
a trope that this character is a
billionaire. It is a trope to have

640
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:15.920
billionaires be lazy, to be boorish
and rude and selfish. But this character

641
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:22.480
is consistently he's consistently shown to be
intelligent. Yeah, he's shown to be

642
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.400
very caring. In fact, the
survival book he's reading at the beginning is

643
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.559
a birthday gift from his assistance,
who literally says, like for being the

644
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:36.119
most thoughtful man I know. And
he's you know, reading it, flipping

645
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.360
through it while people are doing things, because meanwhile, as they're they're in

646
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.840
the middle of this place, you're
wondering what are they doing out there?

647
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:47.519
It's all because his wife is a
model, And they don't really they don't

648
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.360
fully suggest if she's like super successful
or if it's just she's married to a

649
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.079
billionaire so they can just go do
expensive shoots wherever they want. They don't

650
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.599
really reference that, and that you
don't really need to know that, but

651
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:05.639
they're at this place so that Baldwin
the photographer can get some great shots of

652
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.079
his wife. Yeah, and he
just likes going to remote places and hanging

653
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:12.880
out. And there is this little
bit of a melancholy as he realizes that

654
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.880
nobody's really aware it's his birthday.
Yeah, so he's just hanging out.

655
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:22.000
They're talking about like what photos they're
gonna get tomorrow and when the light come,

656
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.000
like when the sun sets, and
just trying to get all these things

657
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:27.880
down MEI mentioned, by the way, the sunsets at four point fifteen,

658
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.239
which makes sense when you're in the
mountains that deep. Yeah, no,

659
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.320
it absolutely does so, and that
far north. Following up with the foreshadowing,

660
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.920
that's what l Q. Jones's character
styles tell us them that they do

661
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.320
have bears in the area, and
he warns people to never leave food uncovered

662
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:43.519
and if they come in contact with
a bear, to stand still and slowly

663
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.119
back up. Don't do anything except
those two things. Yeah, do not

664
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:51.639
have any picanic baskets. No picannic
baskets. So later that night, we

665
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:53.400
see the generator run out of power
as the lights go down. Inside the

666
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.639
cabin, Charles is reading his survival
book and they have various lanterns around the

667
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.000
room. Mickey confirms her love to
her as gets ready for bed and climbs

668
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.440
into bed, and that's when Charles
decides to venture down to the kitchen.

669
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:06.960
He's gonna make a sandwich, but
he notices that the door it's for her.

670
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:08.719
Oh she wants a sandwich, right, Yeah, So the door blows

671
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:12.920
open, and that's when he notices
that there's the ham out and that the

672
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.800
smell could be wafted out by the
wind. So he cautiously goes to the

673
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:19.320
door, slams it shut, turns
around and checks and sees nothing. So

674
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:21.960
he gets a sandwich. He goes
into a room, but as he opens

675
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.079
the door, he startled as a
bear leaps out and then the bar yell

676
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:28.400
surprise, along with a bunch of
other people. Yeah, and it's and

677
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.639
this is a great moment in the
filmmaking of the film of the movie because

678
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:37.400
we see the bear, we hear
the bear roar. Yes, But then

679
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:42.519
we realized that that was the fear
in Hopkins character as the moment that you

680
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.480
have a second to think, you
realize it's not a bear, it's a

681
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.880
bear skin rug and Alec Baldwin's wearing
it, and he had just jumped out

682
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.519
and went raw. And that I
love that because some people would say,

683
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.760
oh, that's cheap, like it
fools the audience. Well, first of

684
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.639
all, it's supposed to fool the
audience. The second of all, the

685
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:04.880
point of that is that Hopkins really
thought there was a bear. His fear

686
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.679
is what made it convincing. And
that's why when he falls down and he

687
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.960
seems really scared, even Alec Baldwin's
like, dude, are you all right?

688
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:17.079
He's surprised it scared him that bad. This reveals his birthday was not

689
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.800
gotten, and everyone at the cabin
is ready to kick back with him,

690
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.960
celebrate his birthday. Hit back a
few Bruce Skis, yep, maybe take

691
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:32.639
just want to take your picture,
just want to take a picture that went

692
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:37.039
dark. But now they they want
to hang out, drink champagne, give

693
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:42.800
him gifts and and his wife who
I think that immediately, as the audience,

694
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.119
we're supposed to wonder like, why
is this young model, Well we

695
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:51.159
know why this young model is with
this old, handsome but very old billionaire

696
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:57.400
guy who also gives this this really
lonely sense about him. He's he's a

697
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:01.039
loner in this, but he's also
has that I feel that he has that

698
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:04.760
charisma where he is smarter than everybody
in the room. I mean, they

699
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.920
establish that, but he's so cool
and calm and collected that you just never

700
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.400
know what's going to come out of
him. Yeah. No, he's just

701
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:16.239
kind of there. He's always listening
and paying attention. That's so now everything

702
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:21.199
is kind of chilled out. Yep. They've eaten the cake his wife,

703
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:22.599
and that is it is a sweet
moment where his wife's like, I would

704
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.760
not forget your birthday. Yeah,
come on, like why wouldn't. And

705
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.320
that's when Robert gives a toast,
thanking him for his good nature, his

706
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.159
generosity and his intelligence. And that's
when his wife gives him a pocket watch

707
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.760
that's engraved and commemorates his birthday.
And Robert gives him a pocket knife that

708
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:43.360
he immediately as told by Styles to
give him a coin because there's a superstition

709
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.840
that whenever you give somebody a blade, you have to give them a coin

710
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:47.800
back so that it doesn't cut the
friendship. When you're giving a knife,

711
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:52.320
you give a coin so it doesn't
cut the friendship. Yep, do you

712
00:45:52.559 --> 00:46:05.039
even move. He will be right
back. Welcome back to do you even

713
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:10.480
movie. So after that the rest
dismissed themselves. They go to bed.

714
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:15.360
The next morning, we see a
model posing a Native American garb as a

715
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.360
No is it, Yeah that's his
wife. Okay, is his wife?

716
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:21.800
For some reason, I didn't think
it was because I thought he called her

717
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:23.440
by a different name. No,
that's his wife. Totally sense. That's

718
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:27.679
why they're hugging and canodling. That
makes sense. Yeah, so she's dressed

719
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.880
up Native American garb as Robert takes
pictures of her. Charles's upstairs and for

720
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:37.280
the record, yeah, this sequence
because Baldwin's character is like, I want

721
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:42.400
to get my like Native American shot. I want to get my thing where

722
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.360
it's like I want that legitimacy on
screen. And then it cuts and she's

723
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:52.000
just she's just a cheesecake Indian.
She's got like one the line right here,

724
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.840
and she's got the head dressed.
It is so cheesy. And after

725
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:59.960
like taking two or three rolls up, if he finally just goes this suck,

726
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.239
yeah, I hate it, which
I thought was like, she doesn't

727
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:06.719
seem to take it as personally as
I thought she would yeah, but he's

728
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:08.519
just like this sucks, I hate
it. Whatever. But before we get

729
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:13.559
to that, yeah, you were
gonna mention our main character. He is,

730
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.320
he's sitting alone and reading his book. From his book reading about Kodiak

731
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:22.079
Bears, Styles comments on how those
are man killers and you can't really do

732
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.920
anything with them. And that's when
he also makes the comment about how you

733
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:29.679
can make a compass with a needle. Yeah, and he's like, new

734
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:34.159
one on me, learn something every
day. Yeah, And Styles unfortunately makes

735
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.880
a move next that he is going
to bring out some papers to show him

736
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:39.760
about this property and that they're on
and that how he wants to have it

737
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:43.239
invested in so they can make a
little bit of a resort about it.

738
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:45.039
It seems like he's just talking about
how beautiful the area is. But then

739
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.199
he's like, wouldn't it be great
to share it? Ye? See,

740
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:51.760
for only about one hundred million dollars, it could be completely whatever, and

741
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:53.719
Hopkins is just like, oh,
I thought you were being courteous. Yeah,

742
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.599
yeah, saying that I thought you
were being courteous. No, no,

743
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:58.920
it's and he doesn't even get madd
he doesn't yell. He just says

744
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.039
like, well, I'm going to
go somewhere else because I'm not here for

745
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.360
that. And that was one that's
the moment that really endeared me to that

746
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:08.239
character, because my heart broke for
him. He just wanted a guy to

747
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:13.599
just be talking to him because they're
guys, and because Hopkins clearly has an

748
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.840
interest in the wilderness and this guy
lives it. Yes, but of course

749
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:22.039
this guy and I can't hate on
him too hard, Like he wants to

750
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.400
make something of this property he owns, he's getting not getting any younger,

751
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.760
and now he has this guy sitting
here who has billions of dollars. It's

752
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:36.519
like, why wouldn't you? But
unfortunately it comes off completely premeditated. He's

753
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:42.199
got sketches and drawings and an investment
deck and that's what really freaking kills it.

754
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.039
And all I could think is I
was like, man, you really

755
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.440
have just lived in the bush all
your life, because like the better way

756
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:52.000
to do would have been to really
like communicate about how the property is and

757
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.800
then be like, I've always thought
about doing something more with it, but

758
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.440
you know, I'm just a simple
man. And bub you might have been

759
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:00.719
able to get him interested. You
might have been able to get him curious

760
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:02.920
if he would have avoided the cash
amounts. I think, well, if

761
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.719
he hadn't just started immediately saying like, well, you know just needs money.

762
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:12.280
It's you could if you had just
like sold harder and harder about like,

763
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.199
isn't this great? Wouldn't it?
Like shouldn't more people see this?

764
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:17.239
You might have been able to get
him play. He was kind of liking

765
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.320
him play the defeat, be like, well, I get you know,

766
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:22.280
I guess there's not really much all
this. No, that's the worst thing

767
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.960
you could do. Oh shucks,
I guess I'll just go shove my head

768
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:31.760
down a toilet and dive. I
guess I'll just I'll just shove myself down

769
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.519
those outhouses upstairs. The outhouses are
upstairs. So that kind of gives us

770
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.880
that moment where we realized that his
wealth makes it hard for him to have

771
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.199
friends and enjoy it too. I
mean, he he has his money,

772
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.480
but it seems like he kind of
just gets into his books to escape everything.

773
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:51.239
Oh yeah, Hart, I think
you're absolutely right. So that's when

774
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.360
Robert and and Steven are kind of
going at it. Steven's his photographer,

775
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:54.920
and that's what he's saying. You
know this sucks. I want to do

776
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.519
something. So he goes back inside
the cabin, grabs the picture off the

777
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:00.559
wall, and he goes to styles
and he says, you know, where

778
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:01.719
can we find this guy? And
he goes, well, Jack is eighty

779
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:06.599
miles away. He's probably out bear
hunting right now. And Robert wants to

780
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:08.239
go. They want to go fly
out and meet him, So it goes

781
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.559
inside. The only option is to
fly out. You can't walk there or

782
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.000
drive there. Yeah, And also
their other model got sick too. That

783
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.719
was also something else they mentioned.
So after a while Charles contemplates and he

784
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.880
decides to go with them. So
they go into flight and they're flying over

785
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:27.880
some beautiful, beautiful scenery again,
and they get into the location and they

786
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.239
go up to the cabin and find
a note on Jack's door that says that

787
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.239
he is hunting out at Big Bass
Lake, which is an extra twenty miles

788
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.000
out. Is what the pilot says, Yeah, twenty miles as the crow

789
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.199
flies. Yeah. So Charles,
off to the side is admiring a dead

790
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:45.280
fall pit a trap for bears,
as Steven and Robert walk up to him,

791
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:46.639
and he asked him if they want
to go further for it, and

792
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:50.480
Charles says, we'll be come this
far, why not go farther? And

793
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:53.159
they have reference that while bush plane
is the best way to travel, yeah,

794
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:57.519
it isn't always perfectly safe this time
of winter. No, you have

795
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.639
to be very careful. And we
find out that quickly as they're on these

796
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:07.119
on the bush plane and having an
interesting conversation where basically at this point Charles

797
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:13.639
Charles right, Charles realized, he's
realized that they're can noodling him and his

798
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:19.079
wife and and and so he just
kind of jokingly and maybe he was like

799
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.719
eighty like sixty percent joking, but
he just goes a, so, how

800
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.679
do you plan to kill me?
And Alec Baldwin goes what. And as

801
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:29.599
soon as he goes what, Yes, the plane gets hit by a flock

802
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:35.480
of birds. And most planes that
are not giant cannot survive a bird hit.

803
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:40.320
So the windshield shatters, the propellers
break, The propeller on the front

804
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:45.440
just starts breaking breaks, and yeah, and there's blood everye they're all screaming.

805
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.239
They lose a wing immediately hitting trees, and then they just barely belly

806
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:54.440
land on a lake or a river. They just barely belly land and as

807
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:59.440
the as the as the plane sinks, it's immediately revealed the pilot is dead.

808
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:00.920
As a door. Yeah, I
mean he is dead, d ed

809
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:05.559
dead, because Robert goes to get
him, pulls on aside. You see,

810
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:07.440
he's dead. Meanwhile, off to
the side, Stevens struggling with a

811
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.280
seatbelt. He can't get it,
he's picking. Robert just goes to the

812
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:13.400
surface. He goes out of the
plane, goes up to the top.

813
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.079
Meanwhile, Hopkins takes his pocket knife
from Robert as the gift and cuts Stephen

814
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.639
free. And then they break surface
like a couple seconds right behind him.

815
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.519
Oh yeah, yeah, and they're
also separated. I've always loved that where

816
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:24.119
they're on opposite sides of the water. Oh sure, sure, yeah,

817
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.800
yeah, no, I like that
too. So now we've got three men,

818
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:30.760
three men who have survived, who
are now and I love the way

819
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:32.960
they acted this out. They're they're
out of the water and they're just so

820
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:37.599
stiff and it like in pain.
Yeah, because they are freezing. Yes,

821
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:42.840
So Charles immediately asks for matches of
them. Robert shakingly reaches into his

822
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.000
jacket, takes out his cigarellos and
pulls the matches out. They go to

823
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.840
start a fire, but the matches
are failing, so Robert decides to use

824
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:52.079
a flair, despite Hopkins being like, you know, we should see Hopkins

825
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.000
is like, let's take a minute
and make a fire without using the flares

826
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:57.840
yet, but he's like, no, I want to fire right now.

827
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.000
Yeah, So they get the fire
going. It burns through the night.

828
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.639
The next morning we find out Robert
accidentally let the fire die out, and

829
00:53:02.920 --> 00:53:06.000
it's also revealed that you know,
they're like, well, you know,

830
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:07.199
somebody will see the note, they'll
come, they'll know where we are.

831
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:12.199
And that's when Robert and zips his
jacket and pulls out Jack's note so that

832
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:16.840
no one now knows he off the
door. So it'd be a dead end.

833
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.400
It's a dead end they would get, especially because think about it,

834
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.320
you're playing a plane, So what's
gonna happen. They're gonna get to the

835
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:25.639
people, look at it, We're
gonna get to the cabin, not see

836
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:30.800
them. There there's no tracks.
The plane is taking off on the water,

837
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:36.280
so there's not even a direction to
try to find. Literally, these

838
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:43.719
guys are lost in probably a thousand
miles squares and who knows how anybody's gonna

839
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:49.639
find them. But luckily Anthony Hopkins
is just a freaking weirdo and he stays

840
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.119
super calm. Yeah, cool,
calm collected the entire time. And he

841
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:55.960
decides that they're gonna head south and
he needs to figure out how to do

842
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.559
so by building a compass. And
he builds the compass by taking a paper

843
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.440
clip off of something in his pocket. Yep. He rubs it on the

844
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.440
silk in his shirt, which magnetizes
it and puts it on a leaf.

845
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.480
They figure out which way north is
yep, and they start heading that way,

846
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:13.639
and he wants to go to the
top of the peak so that way

847
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:15.000
they can make a fire so that
the smoke can see them and they can

848
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.960
hopefully get rest well, and they
can also see super far to see if

849
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:21.800
there's somewhere else they should where they
can go. Yeah, So they take

850
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.039
a rest of some fresh water that
they find. Robert questions him again,

851
00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:27.559
ask him how he planned to kill
him and why he would say that,

852
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:30.119
and Charles states, for Mickey his
wife. Robert states he has his own

853
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:34.239
girls, and Charles ads, ah, but for the money. Robert comments,

854
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.039
the rich are sure different. Yeah. He looks up he's rich.

855
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.119
Are different. Yeah, So they
continue their trek to the peak, but

856
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:43.920
they're stopped when they hear a bear
off in the distance, and they catch

857
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:47.400
sight of one right below them.
They freeze before Steven and Robert go taking

858
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:51.519
off, leaving Charles to fall right
into the sites of the bear as they

859
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:53.519
both just look at each other before
the bear starts charging it. Yes,

860
00:54:53.559 --> 00:55:00.000
and it should be mentioned I am
no bear expert, shocker, but generally

861
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:01.519
speaking, if a bear is out
in the dead of winter, it's because

862
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:06.840
they are starving. Yes, because
bears traditionally, much like myself, hibernate

863
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.039
through the winter. They eat a
lot and then they sleep. Yeah.

864
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:13.239
I don't get the second part is
good in the winter, but they're really

865
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:16.800
good at the first part. That's
fair. So no. But yeah,

866
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:21.920
so this bear is hungry, it's
aggressive, it is a kodiak, it's

867
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:24.599
a man eater, and that becomes
apparent very quickly, very quickly. So

868
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:28.719
they quickly flee and coming to a
waterfall at the edge of the cliff,

869
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:32.119
Hopkins decides that they're going to use
this giant tree trunk to push across to

870
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:36.280
make a bridge. Stephen and Robert
make it across the bridge, but Charles

871
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.960
gets stopped right in the middle as
the bear comes to the trunk and starts

872
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:43.119
hitting it, knocks it all over
the side, and Charles also falls off

873
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.920
the side, hanging onto his satchel, which has the flares in it,

874
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:47.840
so he hangs on the satchel for
a few minutes before dropping into the water.

875
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:51.760
He's luckily pulled out of the water
by Stephen and Robert, but then

876
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:54.719
they also realize that they've lost the
flares now, but the bear also walks

877
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:59.039
off at this point, so they
are safe for the time being, except

878
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:01.480
that this is the beginning of when
the movie becomes a pulse pounding like freaking

879
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:05.880
movie, because now we're like thirty
five forty minutes in and now the bear

880
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.480
has been introduced. The weather's getting
colder. They need to get out of

881
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:12.039
there. Yeah, they need to
either signal for help, but more likely

882
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:14.880
they're gonna have to and he keeps
referencing it. They're gonna have to walk

883
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:15.360
out it. Yeah, they're gonna
have to walk out of there. No

884
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.320
one's probably gonna come for them.
He keeps saying, you know, they

885
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:21.039
can have the hopes, but it's
not looking good. So Charles states that

886
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:22.559
they lost the flares. As they
reach the peak, Robert says that they'll

887
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.800
start a fire to get their attention. So the three build this huge fire.

888
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:29.920
They keep it burning through the night, but the next morning Charles realizes,

889
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:31.280
you know, we've got to keep
moving, so they make their way

890
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:36.440
back down the peak, coming to
their original fire remains, meaning that they've

891
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:38.960
completely got ba circle when in a
circle and he thinks it may have been

892
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:43.559
his belt buckle messing with the compass, but he can't be sure. Yeah,

893
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:47.159
but that, and that is definitely
the beginning of them doubting, especially

894
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:52.400
about Baldwin's character, doubting Charles and
thinking maybe you're just gonna get us killed

895
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:54.079
in a different way, yeah than
we would if we had just sat here.

896
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:57.519
So Steven starts freaking out, but
Charles tells him, you know,

897
00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:59.679
we need to stay calm, and
he gives him a piece of wood in

898
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:00.440
his nun I think. He says, you know, make a spear so

899
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:02.679
we can have something. We'll try
to you know, catch dinner or at

900
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:06.840
least defend ourselves. So he goes
off. He's talking to Robert for a

901
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.000
little bit and then Steven screams out
in pain, and as they rush over

902
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:13.320
to find out that he accidentally has
cut his leg pretty deep. Yeah.

903
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:17.320
Night, it's pretty bad and unfortunately, probably in my opinion, the weakest

904
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:21.760
part of the movie is that he
cut himself making a spear. He was

905
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.320
giving him something to do in the
hopes that he could try to fish,

906
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:28.960
and instead he cuts his leg deep. So now they have to clean it

907
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:30.840
up. They have to get a
fire going. They have to keep him

908
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.719
warm, keep him comfortable, and
keep convincing him you're going to be okay.

909
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.199
So as he takes the bloody paint
leg off of him, he hands

910
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:42.400
it to talk Baldwin and says,
Barry, and now it's nighttime. Yep.

911
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.960
They have a big fire going.
He's having this conversation. He's telling

912
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.559
him like, you're going to be
okay as long as we keep changing the

913
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:51.800
bandage. And they do have plenty
of scrap so they can keep changing the

914
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:53.440
bandage. You should be okay.
But we gotta walk out of here.

915
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:58.119
Yeah. And as he has the
conversation alone with Alec Baldwin, they kind

916
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:00.800
of wander away from the fire as
rain as pouring. Yep. Baldwin is

917
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:04.199
the one who's like, well,
now we really have to get out of

918
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:06.000
here. He's not going to live. And he's like, I know that

919
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:08.280
we have to leave because he will
die if we stay. And that's when

920
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:14.639
we have the first colossal screw up
of the film. Oh my god,

921
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.800
Oh it scares me every time we
watch it. Dave go on going.

922
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:22.679
Hopkins is talking to Ball when he
looks over and he sees the rags hanging

923
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:27.000
in a tree, blowing right in
the wind, and he says, you

924
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:28.440
know, I told you to bury
those, and he's like, well,

925
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:31.039
what's the big deal. He goes
the smell of blood, right, they're

926
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:35.199
trying to keep the smell of blood
out of the air. Ye As Steven,

927
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.199
who is resting against rocks, you
know, he's he's all fucked up

928
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:42.280
from his leg wound, looks over
and hears the bear and sees the breath

929
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.760
of the bear, and the bear
charges on him in attacks. Yes he

930
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:49.440
does, and it is not okay, No, it's not. Charles tries

931
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:52.880
to ward him off with a with
a piece of a piece of wood on

932
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:58.599
fire but traditionally would be refrid twist. Steven is attacked and killed, and

933
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:00.719
Charles and Robert have to flee camp. So The next morning, they're hunkering

934
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:05.079
down on a snowy cliff side as
snow is coming down with heavy wind sounds.

935
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.719
They build a fire as Charles conducts
another plan using the stars that they're

936
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:12.400
going to travel by moonlight and hopefully
stay out of the bear sits. Robert

937
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:15.280
questions what are they going to eat
and Charles comments that he's working on that,

938
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:16.920
and we see him cutting something.
Next we see that they build a

939
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:21.039
little trap. A squirrel is coming
into it. They pull the rope,

940
00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:24.599
the trap goes down the squirrel,
and then a helicopter rushes past. Yes,

941
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:28.360
and they lose the squirrel. Yeah, they lose because they're trying to

942
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:30.159
signal the helicopter, which doesn't see
them at all. No, it's not.

943
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:34.400
And this is something worth mentioning because
we are, you know, we

944
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.719
only have so much time to talk
about this movie, so we are moving

945
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:39.480
quickly because it's an epic film.
Yeah, and if you haven't seen it,

946
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:43.920
you need to. Yes. But
one thing that Charles mentions early on

947
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.280
is that people who die in the
woods don't die from the woods. They

948
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:52.719
don't die from nature, Nope,
they die from shame. The idea being

949
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.400
that if you make a mistake,
you give up. The idea being that

950
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:59.480
if you do something stupid, you
give up. The idea being if you're

951
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:01.679
wrong ever, you give up.
If you get a bad hand, you

952
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:06.360
give up. Yeah, And I
love that mentality. That's something that makes

953
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.199
the movie stick out perfect because this
is this leads right into the scene where

954
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:13.159
you know that they don't get the
helicopter obviously it's flying too fast, they're

955
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.440
too far behind it, and Robert
just starts losing it. He's like,

956
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:17.679
you know, how can how can
you stay this calm? Like what are

957
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:21.800
we gonna do? And Charles tells
him that they have to band together on

958
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:23.840
this because at this point they have
to believe no one is coming for them.

959
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:28.039
They are on their end. But
Andy says something in this movie that

960
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.440
I love so much, which he
says, he says, just like you

961
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:35.800
you're you're super you're crazy rich,
you have money and all this stuff,

962
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.199
and then what all this stuff happens? You flourish, Yeah, And I

963
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:43.159
think that's where he said. She
He's like, you flourish, you do

964
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:49.280
amazing, You're better than anybody Else's
this he's just basically hating him for doing

965
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.599
so well in the situation, and
honestly, fair, fair, no,

966
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:55.039
it is. It is crazy how
well he's doing in this situation. He

967
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:58.800
does incredible because the next thing he
does is he cuts a piece off his

968
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.000
watch to make a fishing lore,
missing a couple of fish. He turns

969
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:07.800
around and you know, the bear
is literally right behind him. Do you

970
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:22.880
even movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do you even movie?

971
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:27.159
Oh? And that is an incredible
scare. He slowly gets up,

972
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.840
starts to back up, but the
bear's not fucking around at this point.

973
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.239
The bear charges him, so he
finds cover in a bundle of rust before

974
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:35.920
he rejoins Robert in the forest,
telling him the bear has been stalking them

975
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.480
this entire time, waiting for them, And they begin to throw all the

976
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:43.119
torches around them, just making a
circle in this huge forest so that they

977
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.880
can ward the bear off. But
he decides that they have no option.

978
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:49.719
They're going to have to kill this
ban. Yeah. Well, and because

979
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:52.840
there's an old tradition, and I
know that this is not actually true,

980
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.719
but there's an old tradition that if
a bear eats a man, that bear

981
01:01:55.800 --> 01:02:00.920
forever is a man eater. Yeah, which in a way is a short

982
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:05.480
sighted way to like excuse killing animals, and I agree that, but on

983
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.159
the other side of things, you
have to look at as like, well,

984
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:08.639
the bear's broken that taboo. The
bear is like, oh, I'm

985
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:13.800
gonna eat I ate a person and
it fed me, so screw it now

986
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.320
humans unless try about polar bears.
And we're not talking about polar bears.

987
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:21.559
Don't get me started about polar bear
the scary, but let's try about polar

988
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:24.039
bears. Bears mostly see us as
a last ditch food source, but more

989
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:28.400
so as a threat to kill.
Like that's why the scariest thing in the

990
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:30.480
world is a baby bear, because
that means mama bear is gonna think you're

991
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:37.719
gonna hurt. But so now they
survive the night in this epic ring of

992
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:43.320
fire, and they have to come
up with another plan. And that's the

993
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.000
thing Charles is great about, is
he's always thinking of what the other plan

994
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:51.000
is and he never shuts up.
But that's important because the men, if

995
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.880
you're not communicating, then you're not
two heads better than one. So I

996
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:59.199
feel like that's why he's constantly saying
things and constantly saying things is he wants

997
01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:04.440
to keep out like Baldwin's character engrossed
in the moment so that he's not busy

998
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:10.199
going at him Brady dying dying of
shame, because if he marches silently next

999
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:14.199
to him, he's gonna die of
shame. He's gonna sit there and just

1000
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:16.119
think the whole time, we're lost, we're dead. We're gonna die like

1001
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:19.719
we missed the helicopter, we went
the wrong way, we did this.

1002
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.719
He'll be too busy dying of shame
to go like, wait, you're right,

1003
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.159
how do you do this thing?
How do we do this whatever?

1004
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:28.679
How do we get out of here? And I think it's also important to

1005
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:31.159
point out at this point in the
movie that Hopkins is never the leader in

1006
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:36.239
the sense of somebody that takes charge
because because he wants you, it's because

1007
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.280
nobody else is and he has the
knowledge yeah no, And and because he's

1008
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:46.039
confident. He's confident and methodical,
which honestly, I could see a billionaire

1009
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:52.679
being that way absolutely, because I
mean, like I stress out over investments

1010
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:55.360
of thousands of dollars, what do
you do when it's million million dollars?

1011
01:03:55.360 --> 01:04:00.440
What do you do when when it's
tens of thousands of jobs? I guess

1012
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:02.480
you have to be pretty stoic.
Yeah, and that well, that absolutely

1013
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:05.719
leads into our next scene. As
Charles and Robert gather would as supplies for

1014
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:09.800
their assault on the bear. Charles
tells him they're gonna lure the bear into

1015
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.800
their circle and they're gonna kill it
with the spear, and Robert questions how

1016
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:15.599
are they gonna lure it in?
And Charles slices his thumb and he says,

1017
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.599
with blood. But Robert doesn't believe
that they can kill the bear,

1018
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:20.159
and that's when Charles tells him that
he can die if he wants to,

1019
01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:24.280
but he's not going to die.
He's going to kill this bear. And

1020
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:28.039
he says something very important, which
is that he read how to kill this

1021
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:30.079
bear. He read in a book
two men killed a Kodiak bear together.

1022
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.840
Yeah, And what one man can
do another pn do, Yes, Yes,

1023
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:38.239
and that's that's a life lesson.
Yeah, that's a life lesson.

1024
01:04:38.239 --> 01:04:41.119
If one man can do something,
it is possible for you to do it

1025
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:43.840
too. Yeah. Now it may
be damn near impossible. Damn it may

1026
01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.800
kill you, but it's you could. You could, You absolutely could.

1027
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:50.360
And they're living in the world of
hope. Yes, because he drives this

1028
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:54.079
into Baldwin's character because he's like,
I want you to repeat this. Say

1029
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:55.920
it, say it louder. Say
it. Let's say it again, say

1030
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:58.239
it louder. So they say,
you know what one man can do,

1031
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:00.719
another can do, ending with Charles
saying right into the camera, he's looking

1032
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:04.280
out into the Here's he's looking out
into wilderness, and he goes, today,

1033
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:09.199
I'm gonna kill the motherfucker. One
of the greatest moments of the whole

1034
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:13.039
film. Yes, Sir Anthony Hopkins, I'm gonna kill the motherfucker. It's

1035
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:17.119
so good. It's so good.
And it's also he for as much as

1036
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:19.880
we say he's stoic, he's very
playful. Yeah, Like there are moments

1037
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:23.760
where he sat where he where Alec
bald wom will insult him and he just

1038
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:27.360
goes, yeah, that's probably true. And bald there's one part where he

1039
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:29.920
says like, uh, I can't
remember if it was later earlier, but

1040
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:31.599
there's one part where he says like, well, it's not exactly like Stort

1041
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.559
and Coke off of Supermodels Hip Bones, is it? And he goes how

1042
01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:40.480
so? And Baldwood just sits there
saying since and then just burst out laugh.

1043
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:44.599
He laughs it's not through to him. Yeah. So the next morning,

1044
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:46.760
the bear eventually comes into the areas
that you were holding spears on it.

1045
01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:49.599
Once in place, Charles has Robert
releasing the trap, which was he

1046
01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:57.320
as a combo of limbs and sharp
pieces bound together tree limbs not limbs.

1047
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:02.400
Wrong turn, God, So they
cut it loose. It swings down and

1048
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:05.599
goes past the bear misses. It
swings into some trees, breaks some of

1049
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:09.400
the things loose, and swings back
and hits the bear right in the side,

1050
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:12.360
but unfortunately it fails. The bear
is still pissed off. Yeah,

1051
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.360
they've succeeded in injuring the bear.
Yeah, which also makes it angrier and

1052
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:18.320
more desperate. Yeah. So,
but luckily this isn't the only plant.

1053
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:20.559
No, it is not. So
on the swing back, it hits the

1054
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:24.239
bear, but the bear quickly removes
it. So they run over the side

1055
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:26.719
of the hill, leaping over and
falling into the stream, with the bear

1056
01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:30.079
right in pursuit after them. He
charges at them and they try to fight

1057
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:32.039
it off, but after many swipes, the bear stands up on its hines,

1058
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.519
knocking Charles into the water. Robert
then tries to ambush, stabbing it

1059
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:39.480
in the side, but he quickly
gets knocked down and is briefly attacked by

1060
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:43.480
it before Charles decides to get the
bear's attention. He has it run over

1061
01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:45.360
to these rocks. He has it
come right up on him. He places

1062
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:47.719
the spear right in the rocks,
and as the bear comes down to attack

1063
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:51.000
him, the spear and pales the
bear, killing it. He saw from

1064
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:55.880
how it attacked Baldwin that it just
goes right on top of hi yah.

1065
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:58.480
So he was like, well,
if I can put a spear between us,

1066
01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:01.159
but make sure that the spear can
fall over, then it'll go right

1067
01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:04.199
through it, right because the bear's
weight, we'll work against it. Yeah.

1068
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:08.760
He also had to wave him off
because Baldwin, while not mortally wounded,

1069
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:11.760
like when when the bear gets off
of him, he touches his stomach

1070
01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:14.119
and goes like, I'm bleeding a
lot, a lot. Like he got

1071
01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:16.039
him. He didn't get him good, but he got him. So now

1072
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:20.760
the bear has been in pale Yep. It is died, and now the

1073
01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:27.679
two men are taking a much deserved
buddy yest as my people call it.

1074
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:31.119
They have their victory because they're cooking
the bear. They're making necklaces from the

1075
01:07:31.159 --> 01:07:34.360
claws as well as pelts from the
skin, and they are just lapping up

1076
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:39.679
their victory. Yeah, they've made
winter clothes, They've made wraps for their

1077
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:42.760
boots, wraps for their necks,
wraps for their heads out of this bear.

1078
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.800
And all I could think was,
you know, after how many days

1079
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:48.760
without eating, I bet the bear
tasted pretty good. Yeah, the carnivores

1080
01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:51.760
do not taste good. Like like, if you this is gonna make me

1081
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:55.400
sound so weird, like if I
know, you've probably never eaten raccoon,

1082
01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:59.159
right, okay, well, the
secret to raccoon. Raccoons are omnivores eat

1083
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:03.639
whatever they're fat is disgusting. No, like when you render it, it

1084
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:09.400
is revolting. So if you want
to successfully, because I'm the style guy,

1085
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:14.480
style coach, kids, if you
want to eat raccoon, you have

1086
01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:19.000
to boil off the fat from the
meat. I'm not kidding. The fat

1087
01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:25.399
is disgusting. It's it's not just
gross, it is like rancid. And

1088
01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:29.760
most animals that eat meat, the
fat is rancid. So you want animals

1089
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:32.920
that eat nuts, berries, things
like that. But anyway, so so

1090
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.039
my point is, but boy,
they are they are enjoying big hunks of

1091
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:40.920
protein, and I imagine it tastes
extra good knowing that you're not being hunted

1092
01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:44.880
anymore. Yeah, No, absolutely, pro So Charles makes another attempt at

1093
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:46.520
the compass the next morning, using
his pocket watch arm. This time,

1094
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:49.199
the needle points them off in the
right direction as they go off arm with

1095
01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:53.319
their spears covered in their bare pelts, and they're trekking through a very snowy

1096
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:57.479
wilderness and they come to an abandoned
cabin, and inside the cabin they find

1097
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:00.439
maps, they find a rifle,
they find booze, and out side the

1098
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:02.439
cabin they find a canoe that is
able to float on the water. And

1099
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:05.359
this is basically when the third act
begins. Yes, it is, in

1100
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:10.520
my opinion, because the first act
is everything leading up to them leaving that

1101
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:14.039
big cabin. Yeah, And a
lot happens in that first sec second act.

1102
01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:16.960
Plane crashes and now that's the first
element of survival. Yeah. And

1103
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.680
then I feel like the third act
is after they kill the bear. Yes,

1104
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:23.800
And that's another reason this film is
great. Yes, because the movie

1105
01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:28.600
is not about killing the bear.
The movie is about survival and the weather,

1106
01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:33.399
the wind, food, water,
shelter. All of those are as

1107
01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:38.720
deadly as any grizzly bear. Yeah. So while Robert is out gathering firewood,

1108
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:41.720
Charles finds the receipt for his watching
his knife, but he finds the

1109
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:44.760
third item listed on it, which
is Robert's watch that he was talking about

1110
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:47.760
on the plane, with an engraving
that says thanks for all the nights.

1111
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:53.920
And that's extra tricky because every time
they bring up watches, Yeah, he

1112
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:58.800
keeps his it's broken, broke,
it's broken, ycause they because Hopkins himself

1113
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.880
takes apart his broken watch and uses
other people's watches. But that watch was

1114
01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:04.920
always kept a secret. It was
because of the engraving. Engraving, and

1115
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:09.239
what a lazy lady, I guess. You know, I can't blame her

1116
01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:12.039
too bad. It's not like she
could use you know, friggin' go online,

1117
01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:15.239
yeah, and frigging order an engraved
thing. She had to go to

1118
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:16.560
the same place in New York City, and hey, I will give it

1119
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:20.119
to her. The total cost on
I think was like twenty eight thousand dollars.

1120
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:24.720
So you know, hey, nobody
loved you, never loved me enough

1121
01:10:24.760 --> 01:10:27.199
to get me a watch like that. I got you a tourist trap poster

1122
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:32.920
friends, all right, just like
that they wonder if we're lovers. Robert

1123
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:36.880
returns with the firewood as Charles goes
to light a fire, cautiously watching Robert,

1124
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:40.720
who's smoking, drinking out a liquor
bottle, and loading the rifle.

1125
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:44.119
He's definitely taking a minute for herself. Yeah, but yeah, and the

1126
01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:46.439
loading the rifle would make me nervous
too, because there's no inminet threat.

1127
01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:49.399
But at the same time, they
were hunted by a bear yea for days

1128
01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:53.640
and days, and we don't They
never tell us exactly how long. My

1129
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.119
theory is at least two weeks.
Two weeks I think is absolutely on the

1130
01:10:57.119 --> 01:11:00.479
nose. So he asked him if
he can see the watching, and Robert

1131
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:03.399
reminds him it's busted. It doesn't
work. Charles questions how can he do

1132
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:06.640
how can he do the sober?
And he questions, you know, what

1133
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:10.840
is it exactly you're doing and why
are you doing this? No, he

1134
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:14.760
says, can't do it sober,
basically saying like, I know you're planning

1135
01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:16.760
to kill me and you're drinking because
you can't do this. Yeah, And

1136
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:20.880
he's right, how could he do
it? Sober? He's learned to like

1137
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:24.920
the guy exactly. He's not only
learned to like the guy. The guy

1138
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:30.840
saved his life multiple times, but
at the same time, Hose before Bros

1139
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:33.279
Before Bros. So he tells him
he doesn't deserve Mickey, stating she's only

1140
01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.039
with him for the money. Charles
gets the watch roo him, confirming the

1141
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:39.840
inscription on it, and Robert stands
with the rifle, telling him let's go

1142
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.920
outside, So Charles walks ahead of
Robert, who keeps the rifle ready on

1143
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:46.359
him the whole walk, as Charles
questions when did the nights occur? Robert

1144
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:48.760
questions why is it so important to
him, and Charles tells him because he

1145
01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:51.880
loves her. So Robert tells him
to turn his back, and Charles says

1146
01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:56.079
that he's not gonna do it.
Charles refuses to turn around, trying to

1147
01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:59.279
speak up to Robert and warn him
because as Robert steps back to fire the

1148
01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:01.319
gun, he finds out the hard
way that there's a dead fall pit right

1149
01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:04.319
behind him that he falls in,
which makes sense because at this time of

1150
01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:08.119
the like obviously the person nobody's been
there in a year or two, but

1151
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:11.880
that was definitely a cabin mostly used
for hunting bear, so putting a dead

1152
01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:14.520
fall out is smart. Because sometimes
the best way to attract a bear is

1153
01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:16.359
just by being there, by cooking
food, by eating. And I want

1154
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:18.760
to mention something real quick before we
get into the dead Fall, because,

1155
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:23.239
like I said, so much movie
to cover, and we have to move

1156
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:26.760
at lightning speed sometimes. Yes,
and Dave's done an incredible job of breaking

1157
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.960
down a very complex movie. But
there's a moment right before they get to

1158
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:34.239
the cabin I wanted to remind you
about where they're talking about life's changing,

1159
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:39.680
and Hopkins' character says like, I've
never known a man. I love the

1160
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:41.880
line. He's like, I've never
known anyone that actually changed their life.

1161
01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:45.199
And he's like, but I I'm
going to change my life, and Baldwin

1162
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:48.239
kind of slaps the back and goes
like you'll be the first. And it's

1163
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:51.399
a sweet moment, but also it
makes sense because Hopkins is basically like my

1164
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:55.960
imagination is that when he's out of
this he's gonna be like, I'm gonna

1165
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.079
do just things for me. I'm
not gonna do my business anymore. I'm

1166
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.319
just I'm not gonna deal with my
wife anymore. I'm just gonna do what

1167
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:08.079
interests me. And I think to
get emotional, I think he I think

1168
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:11.680
one of the things he realized is
maybe he should focus on making a friend,

1169
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:15.560
because there is a reference coming up
where he basically says, like,

1170
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.439
what you know, because I'm your
buddy, you have a buddy. Finally,

1171
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:23.520
I think Hopkins never had a buddy. I think that. I think

1172
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:27.920
that as he became more successful,
it isolated him more, which it does

1173
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:31.439
often do. Success not only brings
you people who want to take from you,

1174
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:34.239
but it brings you people who are
jealous. It brings you people who

1175
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:41.000
are who want to see you fail. And I can say, look,

1176
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:44.880
I'm in the world of filmmaking,
in the world of podcasting, I am

1177
01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:49.279
sealist at best. But you didn't
have to agree with that so fast.

1178
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:55.640
But no, I'm seedless at best, and I'd have haters. I have

1179
01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:59.560
people who would relish the idea of
me failing. I had I had somebody

1180
01:13:59.560 --> 01:14:02.560
once basically say like, I hope
your movie like flops, like was posting

1181
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:06.760
negative reviews and stuff, and it's
literally like, homie, what about me

1182
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:11.319
and my two rescue dogs? Do
we not deserve to eat? Exactly?

1183
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:17.640
It's hateful yeah, and so yeah, so like, uh, success can

1184
01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:20.520
bring a lot of negative things even
a little bit of success. Yeah.

1185
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:24.760
When I think with Hopkins's character being
the billionaire, I think he's just so

1186
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:28.319
used to no one being genuine with
him, even his own wife. Yeahah,

1187
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:31.439
So I think the fact that he's
had these experiences with Robert and everything,

1188
01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:33.600
it kind of makes him realize.
He's like, man, I could

1189
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:38.399
have this with somebody else that's not
of this caliber in that sense, well

1190
01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.960
caliber held the guy well, and
here's something else food for thought. I

1191
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:47.439
feel like Hopkins when he has that
realization that they're the early realization, like

1192
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:50.840
that they seem to be canodling and
everything. Yeah. I think that maybe

1193
01:14:51.079 --> 01:14:55.600
because he has this kind of like
bitter sweet moment, you know when his

1194
01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.119
wife is like, I never would
forget your birthday and he looks at the

1195
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.279
watch and everything, where I think
he realized this is as good as it's

1196
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:03.239
gonna get. Yeah, Like,
the best I'm going to have if I

1197
01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:06.800
keep going the way I'm going is
a wife who cheats on me but does

1198
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:11.840
remember my birthday. Like that is
going to be the best I've got,

1199
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:15.279
and I'll be surrounded by yes men
as old. That's kind of heartbreak.

1200
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:20.239
No, it's absolutely heartbreaking, And
I think what leads into his next couple

1201
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:24.000
scenes with him talking to Robert,
which we'll get to in a second,

1202
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:29.880
is he sees the humanity in what
he's had to do to survive. And

1203
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:33.039
this survival instinct that he's gotten has
not come easy, of course, but

1204
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:38.239
also it's made him realize that his
life, in a sense, was him

1205
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:41.119
kind of just an autopilot. Yeah, he was just kind of doing what

1206
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:45.359
he needed to do. And that's
that's a really good point you bring up.

1207
01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:49.680
And I think the other thing he
realized is the things that interested him

1208
01:15:49.720 --> 01:15:55.239
the most, which was not money
and women and this, and that is

1209
01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:59.760
what saved him. His passions are
what got him through this. His analytical

1210
01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:04.039
mind is what got him through this. Do You Even? Movie will be

1211
01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:19.199
right back, Welcome back to Do
You Even? Movie. That's where we

1212
01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:21.760
get the big moment, because Alec
Baldwin now to get back to where we

1213
01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:27.359
were at. Baldwin has fallen in
the Dead's hit. He's lucked out in

1214
01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:30.640
that it only went through his thoughts, which granted, is just better than

1215
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:39.199
it going through your freaking lungs.
It's still really bad. But Baldwin had

1216
01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:42.439
no desire to be a different person. At the end of the six that's

1217
01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:49.239
and that's the difference. Baldwin was
not willing to let go of that plan

1218
01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:51.600
because at the end of it he's
like, well, after all that,

1219
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:59.319
I may as well get what I
wanted anyway, while Charles Anthony Hopkins character

1220
01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:04.600
is like, well I forgive this
guy. Yeah, like because we've been

1221
01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:09.479
through all this stuff together. So
he's like, I'm massively changed by all

1222
01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:13.319
this. But since Baldwin isn't he
ends up in the pit. Yeah.

1223
01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:15.600
So he's in the pit. He
tells me he thinks he's broke his legs.

1224
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:17.359
So Charles climbs into the pit,
taking the rifle off of him and

1225
01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:19.600
aiming it down at Robert, and
Robert pleads, you know, Charles,

1226
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:24.600
don't, and Charles immediately starts unloading
the rifle. There's something so human about

1227
01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:29.640
Baldwin's appearance of fearing death. Yeah, that I think is really like,

1228
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:33.119
is really endearing. He really does
look like he is so afraid of dying.

1229
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:38.039
Yeah, and why wouldn't you be? Absolutely so, we see Charles

1230
01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:41.039
kerry Robert back to the cabin.
He lays him on the table starts examining

1231
01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:44.319
his wound. Robert beginning to go
delirious from his blood loss, shortly passes

1232
01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:45.840
out and Charles reads him a little
medical book. Off to the side.

1233
01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:49.560
It turns tonight sometime later, and
Charles wakes up Robert telling him they're gonna

1234
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:53.479
get him out of here as soon
as he can, and we see Charles

1235
01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:56.960
now rowing them down the stream in
a canoe with Robert in it. After

1236
01:17:57.000 --> 01:17:59.560
some time rowing, Charles takes him
to shore. He builds a fire to

1237
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:01.399
keep them warm. And one thing
we may have skimmed over, because we

1238
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:03.920
are skimming, we have to,
my goodness, such an epic movie.

1239
01:18:04.159 --> 01:18:08.199
Is the big reason that this cabin
was a wonderful realization was there was a

1240
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:10.479
little bit of food, a little
bit of shelter, but there was a

1241
01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:14.039
canoe that floated, yes, And
that was when it became clear that Baldwin

1242
01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:15.680
was getting reay to get rid of
him, because now it's like, I

1243
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:17.520
don't need you. If I have
a canoe, I can because rivers go

1244
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:21.319
to people, even if it takes
a really long time. Yeah, rivers

1245
01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:26.000
go to people. So that was
the moment that Baldwin could get away with

1246
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:29.319
not having him anymore. So now
yeah, so's he's pulled over yeah,

1247
01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:32.520
and he's warming Baldwin up because he
blood loss is making him very cold.

1248
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:36.079
Yeah, and Baldwin's looking worse for
where as the moments go, so he

1249
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:39.920
questions to Charles, why would he
save him? In Charles states he doesn't

1250
01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:42.000
think that he would have killed him, and Robert says, no, I

1251
01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:43.880
totally would have. But he says, you know, what, what are

1252
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:45.640
you gonna do when you get back? Why would you save me? That's

1253
01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:49.880
the saddest moment and Charles, but
also kind of beautiful is that Baldwin's character

1254
01:18:49.960 --> 01:18:53.800
just goes like, I absolutely absolutely, because he tries to give them the

1255
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:55.319
penedefit the do and go like,
I know you wouldn't have done it,

1256
01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:58.520
and he's like, yes, yes, I would have. Yeah. So

1257
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:00.880
Charles states that he may not go
back after this point, and Robert takes

1258
01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:04.039
Charles's hand, telling him that he's
sorry for what he did, stating that

1259
01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:08.079
Mickey never was in on the idea
for him to be murdered. Yeah.

1260
01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:10.720
He wants to make it very clear, your wife didn't know that I wanted

1261
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:13.119
to come back without you. Yeah, she had no idea. She would

1262
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:15.039
have never been okay with it,
Yeah, which is a little comfort.

1263
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:17.279
No, I would call it a
small comfort. Small comfort. Yeah,

1264
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:20.079
but Charles tells him not to die
on him as Robert tells him, don't

1265
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:25.319
tell him what to do. Suddenly, Charlie's such a mammock, lime and

1266
01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.520
such a great one. Yeah,
he just with tears in his eyes because

1267
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:32.479
Baldwin just says, don't tell me
what to do. So it's a beautiful

1268
01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:36.319
moment as that happens. Suddenly,
Charles, here's a helicopter rushing past the

1269
01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:40.119
rocks. He goes up the rocks, cutting brush off to try and send

1270
01:19:40.119 --> 01:19:43.239
a smoke off to the helicopter.
At first, you don't think anything's happening,

1271
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:46.119
and then suddenly the helicopter turns noticing
the smoke. Charles turns back to

1272
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:49.239
Robert, who is now face down
on the rocks. He checks his pulse

1273
01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:51.680
and finds out that Robert has passed
at this point, covering him with his

1274
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:57.279
coat as the helicopter lands right behind
him. And it's amazing how much you

1275
01:19:57.439 --> 01:20:00.039
care. This movie is a big
exploration of humanity. Yeah, this guy's

1276
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:04.119
a dick. This guy let you
save his life all the time for two

1277
01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:06.479
weeks, yeah, and then was
ready to kill you to go bang your

1278
01:20:06.479 --> 01:20:10.800
wife, yes, but it's still
a tragedy. He died. Charles is

1279
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:14.079
brought back to the cabin on the
helicopter. There's an entourage of police,

1280
01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:16.640
natives and reporters that meet him.
Charles joins Mickey on the steps, but

1281
01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:19.319
before that, he sees Styles and
he asks him again, you know,

1282
01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:23.560
why why is the rabbit afraid?
Or why is the rabbit not afraid?

1283
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:27.640
And he says the line about because
he's smarter than the panther. And so

1284
01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:30.880
he joins Mickey on the steps and
they share a hug and you know she's

1285
01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:33.279
embracing him. But then in her
hand he places Robert's watch, signifying that

1286
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:36.920
he knows about the affair. But
that's where it gets complicated too, mm

1287
01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:42.399
hmm. In my opinion, Charles, when he looks at her, he

1288
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:45.640
actually feels bad for her, Yeah, because she lost her lover, Yes,

1289
01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:47.880
And I think I think that's important. I think also he forgives her

1290
01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:51.439
at that point, but she she
immediately knows that they're done once he hands

1291
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:57.159
it watch him. Yeah, And
I think that that is probably the best

1292
01:20:57.199 --> 01:21:01.439
symbolic symbolism of the movie. Is
ball one was the panther and Hopkins was

1293
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:06.359
the rabbit. The rabbit can sit
and enjoy us a smoke because he knows

1294
01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:10.520
he's smarter than the panther. He
can be ahead of the panther. And

1295
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:15.800
what an ending to a film,
So finish off the last one. Reporters

1296
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.399
start to asking questions, they start
bombarding him, and you know, Charles

1297
01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:20.479
stops and he starts giving a little
bit of a speech. But then one

1298
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:24.800
of the reporters states, you know
what happened to what happened to to to

1299
01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:26.960
your friends? You know, how
did they die? And he goes,

1300
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.920
they died saving my life. And
it's an incredibly heartfelt way because he gets

1301
01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:35.680
tears in his eyes and then the
movie just just done. It fades out

1302
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:40.800
and we immediately go to credits,
and that is The Edge. The Edge

1303
01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:45.079
one of the best wintry thrillers.
And we are digging for the digging them

1304
01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:47.800
up right now for you guys,
and it is one of the best wintry

1305
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:51.640
thrillers ever. I love the film
and I want to say something, sincerely,

1306
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:58.680
David, way to go getting that
down, especially since I decided to

1307
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:01.159
go on a tirade about know for
about twenty minutes. Show really got your

1308
01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:03.880
good You know you did a great
job, Dave. Let's give it up

1309
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:10.119
for Dave. I appreciate that.
Sorry for force a habit that works.

1310
01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:13.640
Their applaud doing goo. Yes.
But so as we wrap up, would

1311
01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:15.239
you like to know some fun things
about the film. I would love to

1312
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:18.600
hear some trivia about the film The
Edge. So would you like to know

1313
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:23.600
what the original title of this was? It was shot under and almost went

1314
01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:26.800
to the theater under it until like
the last five weeks before they released it.

1315
01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:30.439
Wasn't it called Ernest kills a bear? Bookworm? Oh, I've heard

1316
01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:35.279
that bookworm bookworm? I could.
It's dumb. It's terrible. I hate

1317
01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:40.199
it. It is terrible. So
the budget for this movie was thirty million.

1318
01:22:40.199 --> 01:22:43.439
What do you guess the box office
was? Uh, I'm going to

1319
01:22:43.479 --> 01:22:48.800
guess this wasn't a huge hit unfortunately, so, but I imagine it was

1320
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:55.560
somewhat successful. Forty five you're close
forty three point three million box office?

1321
01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:58.039
Okay, thirty million dollars, but
hey, it did alright. It was

1322
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:02.039
released September twenty sixth and nineteen ninety
seven. It premiered at spot number four

1323
01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:04.720
in the box office. Now,
this was the top ten box office of

1324
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:09.000
the time it premiered G I.
Jane and number ten, one thousand Acres,

1325
01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:12.359
number nine, the Full Monte,
number eight, Wish Master number seven,

1326
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:18.560
La Confidential in Spot six spex McGee
x McGee. Number five was the

1327
01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:23.840
Game. I love the Game.
I love the game so much. Underneath

1328
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:26.680
that was the Edge. Number three
was Soul Food. Number two In and

1329
01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:29.800
Out, and then number one was
the Peacemaker, the Bruce or the George

1330
01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:32.119
Clooney action picture. I don't remember
In and Out at all. It was

1331
01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:35.439
I think Kevin Klein comedy. I
haven't seen it in a long time.

1332
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:40.079
Well it's gone. It's dead to
us. So Hopkins actually had a brush

1333
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:43.319
with death during production. The scene
where he falls into the river. He

1334
01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:46.439
was taking painkillers for his neck because
he had a disc it slipped before filming.

1335
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:50.199
He fell into the river, didn't
feel how cold he was becoming until

1336
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:54.239
he began to suffer hypothermia and had
to be rushed off to the hospital.

1337
01:23:54.840 --> 01:23:59.239
Yeah, and this film actually inspired
a highly successful show the same name in

1338
01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:02.359
Brazil, where part participants were selected
from normal people such as executives, graduates,

1339
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.199
and clerks left in the wild and
deserted area Brazilian landscape and had to

1340
01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:10.479
survive using techniques similar to the ones
using the film. And I want to

1341
01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:13.279
know if they just released a bear
on them. I mean, I'm guessing

1342
01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:16.960
there was no bear, but so
its like Survivor. Yeah, yeah,

1343
01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:21.319
yes, Bart the bear only has
four minutes and thirty seconds of screen time

1344
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:25.520
in the film. I believe that
that's the Jaws method. And then to

1345
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:29.479
wrap us up, let's hear about
who almost was in the edge. So

1346
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:33.279
Daniel Stern and Danny Divina. So
for Charles Morris's character, Hopkins, de

1347
01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:38.840
Niro and Hoffman were considered for the
roles. Michael Caine actually turned the role

1348
01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:44.479
down, so you had Robers Demiro, Ustin Hoffman and Michael Caine were almost

1349
01:24:44.520 --> 01:24:48.199
those characters. Hoffman I could see, I could see Hoffmann. I cannot

1350
01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:51.439
see it all. I could see
Hoffman playing it really interestingly. Yeah,

1351
01:24:51.479 --> 01:25:00.800
yeah, DeNiro, I don't see
it all. Just thinking up, we're

1352
01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:05.199
going to the edge, so how
do you make fire from WAA? And

1353
01:25:05.239 --> 01:25:11.960
then Charles or then Robert Ford.
The Alec Baldwin roll was almost Leota ray

1354
01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:16.920
Liota. I could see him in
that easily. Richard gear Travolta, I

1355
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:21.079
could see that the only one that
turned it down Harrison Ford. That was

1356
01:25:21.199 --> 01:25:26.720
Yeah, that's Ford's too. I
don't think. I don't think Ford has

1357
01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:30.720
the darkness. No, Baldwin can
go either way. Yeah, you know,

1358
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:32.399
and I used to think he always
had like a villainous to him until

1359
01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:35.199
I finally saw him be Jack Ryan. Yes, and he did a really

1360
01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:39.920
good job as Jack Bryan Ryan.
So I think that, Uh, I

1361
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:43.199
think Ford would have been a miscast
anyway. I think Michael Caine and Harrison

1362
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:45.439
Ford it's an interesting combo, but
I just don't think it has the same

1363
01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:48.840
Ford. Ford would have been better
as the Hopkins character. Yeah, actually

1364
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:50.760
he would have. He would have
been a lot better than Hopkins character,

1365
01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:54.960
although he was a bit young.
Yeah. And of course, you know,

1366
01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.439
we could also talk about what we
talked about off camera. You know,

1367
01:25:57.479 --> 01:26:00.479
do we just swap planes trains in
the plays trains automobile with the Edge?

1368
01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:05.520
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, here's
an idea when you when you want

1369
01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:11.920
to talk about making fire from ice
have a point. So anyway, so

1370
01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:15.760
final thoughts on the Edge, Kay's
it's a pulse pounding thriller. And I

1371
01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:19.239
hate using that term, but it's
up there. For me. It's a

1372
01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:25.439
wintry must watch. Yeah, along
with my recommendations that are similar, I

1373
01:26:25.439 --> 01:26:29.439
would love I love watching The Revenant, I love watching The Gray something like

1374
01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:30.520
that. If you wanted to double
feature, and I know you have some

1375
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:33.279
thoughts on that, Tyes, I
do so. Final thoughts for me on

1376
01:26:33.319 --> 01:26:36.399
the movie. The Edge is a
true testament of cinema. With two very

1377
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:41.119
strong leads in it, plus an
incredibly trained bear actor as well, this

1378
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:45.039
delivers NonStop thrills, edge of your
seat tension, and a pretty perfect ending

1379
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:46.479
for such an intense movie. Because
it could have gone either, it's a

1380
01:26:46.479 --> 01:26:49.239
perfect ending. I would agree absolutely. I can't imagine changing it. No.

1381
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:51.359
I mean the setting mixed with the
fight for survival. You get a

1382
01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:55.319
feel for the atmosphere right away,
and it adds more tension once you see

1383
01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:58.119
our leads start to combat it as
well. And the way Baldwin dies at

1384
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:03.720
the end gives his character the only
resolution he can get that makes him makes

1385
01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:09.199
you feel okay about him is that
in dying he can finally understand what he

1386
01:27:09.319 --> 01:27:11.439
was living wrong. Yeah, you
know how he was living wrong. And

1387
01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:14.159
as a call back to snow DAYA
from last week, this is also a

1388
01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:17.199
shot in Alberta, Canada. Hey, they're like the same films. So

1389
01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:20.520
final thought, this is a bias, and that's a bias is you're if

1390
01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:24.399
you're a movie fan, this is
a biath. Yeah, one hundred percent

1391
01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:28.039
my recommendation on this, I'm gonna
go with a Live from nineteen ninety three,

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based on the true story. After
a crash landing in snowswept, Andy's

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01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:35.359
a Urganian rugby team has no choice
but to turn desperate measures in order to

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01:27:35.479 --> 01:27:40.600
survive. You're aguarian what I say? I probably said that who knows,

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01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:45.199
but no Alive from nineteen ninety three. It's one you're gonna have to probably

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01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:47.439
get a physical copy of. I
don't know if it's streaming. And its

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01:27:48.159 --> 01:27:51.880
cannibalism is not the only purpose of
the film. Yeah, cannibalism is a

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01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:56.079
major element, major element, so
you need to be ready for that.

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01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:59.720
But the other one I would go
with if you want another survival tale into

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01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:00.680
the why with the meal hirsh I
can't remember the year. I want to

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01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:02.920
say, it's like two thousand and
five. I want to say, I

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01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:05.039
don't think it was that long ago. I thought there was much recent,

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01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:09.239
more recent than that. Man,
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure

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01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:11.800
it was, or maybe I'm thinking
of a different one, but I think

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01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:15.560
I two thousand and seven, Oh
yeah, yeah, don't. I must

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01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:17.800
have just seen it late. Directed
by Sean Pinn, Meil Hirsh, Vince

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01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:23.119
Vaughan, Catherine Keener. It's the
story of a top student who decided that

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01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:25.960
he wanted to do abandon all his
possessions and he hikes into Alaska to live

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01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:29.640
in the wilderness. Spoiler alert,
he unfortunately poisoned himself with some berries.

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01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:32.239
And that's based on a true story. So and that's a good recommendation too

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01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:39.760
if you want a really really starkly
sad it's starkly sad follow up on that.

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01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:43.119
But yeah, the Edge it's an
absolute like I think it's a it's

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01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:46.159
a damn near masterpiece. But it's
a rare masterpiece in that I think it

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01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:50.520
works as a thriller action movie but
also as you know, like a really

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01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:56.359
high end, brilliant movie about humanity. You can tell a playwright wrote it.

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01:28:56.399 --> 01:29:00.640
You can tell that somebody who has
experienced with working with that kind of

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01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:02.319
dialogue on stage where they have to
deliver, not you know, just in

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01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:04.520
front of a camera. But with
their emotions, with their words, and

1419
01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:10.439
everything comes really across in this movie. Okay, that's a weird way to

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01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:14.119
say it, but I like it
anyway. Yeah, I like mamm It

1421
01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:16.199
and I think his dialogue is top
notch. No, his dialogue is top

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01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:19.640
notch. But I think that what
the film has to say about us people

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01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:24.800
is really what makes the film have
a staying power that goes well beyond it

1424
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:28.119
being you know, some home video
thriller from the nineties. Yeah, no,

1425
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:30.720
so that is The Edge nineteen ninety
seven. Check it out if you

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01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:34.199
haven't. It is available streaming right
now, so you can't find it pretty

1427
01:29:34.199 --> 01:29:40.039
easily, and also the blue rays
pretty cheap to pick up. So yes,

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01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:43.119
sir, Before we get out of
here, I just want to say

1429
01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:45.520
a big thank you. People have
been checking out the show. They've been

1430
01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:50.319
watching our shorts on YouTube and then
finding their way a lot of strangely a

1431
01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:53.880
lot of interest in Dead of Winter
because they just never heard of it.

1432
01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.439
Yeah, so people were commenting and
saying, what's that movie? What's that

1433
01:29:56.479 --> 01:30:00.920
hellyea, So hopefully they're checking it
out and giving it a watch. I

1434
01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:05.680
can't wait to go to sleep.
I've had a long week and I'm going

1435
01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:09.760
away for a week. Yeah,
so you are well for five days whatever?

1436
01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:13.600
Who's counting just me? But no, I want to say thanks to

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01:30:13.600 --> 01:30:16.760
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1438
01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:20.720
Podcasts and Spotify. Thank you guys. Make sure to leave us a star

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01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:28.760
leave us the thumbs up. Maybe
leave a comment. Tell us what film

1441
01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:32.640
you believe Alec Baldwin was most supple
in. I would appreciate that. We'll

1442
01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:36.760
even give you a ou guys,
it's a hot take. I almost didn't

1443
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:40.439
have that ready, but no,
so make sure to check that out.

1444
01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:43.399
If you have a movie you'd like
us to take a look at and maybe

1445
01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:45.239
talk about on the show, you
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1446
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:47.560
Pod? At gmail dot com,
Dave, what do you have to say?

1447
01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:50.279
You can find us at TikTok at
do you have a movie Pod?

1448
01:30:50.359 --> 01:30:55.159
We are also on Instagram and X
find us on there. Like I said,

1449
01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:57.399
check out our TikTok. We have
a lot of fun content on there

1450
01:30:57.439 --> 01:30:59.279
and we're trying to get the following
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1451
01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:00.800
could, like can subscribe, we
would appreciate that. Yeah, but I

1452
01:31:00.800 --> 01:31:03.520
mean honestly, if you're here watching
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1453
01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:08.119
we want you to be exactly,
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1454
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:11.239
And I want to remind you you
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1455
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:15.399
would sure be appreciated. Now we
have it set up where I was trying

1456
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:17.680
to figure out what bonus thing to
give people. So if you go to

1457
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:23.600
dooevenmovie dot com and you click on
Patreon, yeah, for three dollars a

1458
01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:26.520
month. I know it's a lot, but you get to see every video

1459
01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:30.000
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1460
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:34.359
full days early. And that's our
way of saying thank you. And also

1461
01:31:34.439 --> 01:31:38.119
we really do need the support.
Yeah. So and if you have any

1462
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:41.279
suggestions on what we can offer you
to your patrons, we would love to

1463
01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:44.399
know. If you want a mailbag
episode or you want us to talk about

1464
01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:47.039
you know, just just shoot the
shit on Mike's we'll do that. Oh

1465
01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:51.039
yeah, Dave's always excited to volunteer
more of my valuable time. Hey,

1466
01:31:51.880 --> 01:31:55.279
But anyway, guys, we're gonna
get out of here, but we will

1467
01:31:55.319 --> 01:31:58.640
talk to you next time. Yes, right here on do you even movie?

1468
01:31:58.920 --> 01:32:00.680
Thanks again and anything else you need
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1469
01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:05.399
to dude even next week, come
talks right over me, parents, the

1470
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:10.840
where's the I hate David, but
please know David until next time. Guys,

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01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:12.720
I don't see it. Hit this