Roger Corman’s Frankenstein Unbound (1990): Cult Sci-Fi Horror

Thirty years ago, Roger Corman began to explore the dark side of the American psyche with movies like The Undead, The Pit and the Pendulum and the original Little Shop of Horrors. Now he feels the world is ready for the greatest horror story ever told, as it's never been told before, Roger Corman's Frankenstein Unbound, starring Joe Hurt, Raoul, Julia and Bridget Fonda. Directed by Roger Corman. In a world where podcasts reigned supreme, two friends dare to ask Do You Even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enriquekuto and movie aficionado David Denoyer. Spoiler alert, Hello and welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? I'm, of course your host Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy co host and whatever else you may be. Yes, David Denoyer, and we have a very very exciting show for you today. Yes we do, because we are in the midst of Roger Corman Appreciation Month. You AT's a even movie. Last week we covered Humanoids from the Deep, which was one of Roger's most notorious productions as a producer. But Roger made his name first, well technically, he produced first yeah, but he made a major name for himself as a director, directing nearly one hundred titles, some famous ones his Poe adaptations, of course, absolutely, But one thing that Roger very seldom had was a lot of money to work with. Now, Throughout his career he directed movies for big studios, small studios, his own studios, and then around the eighties he just stopped. It was actually the late seventies, early seventies last directorial. Yeah, so you just stopped dead. He said that it was far too time consuming running his distribution company, New World Pictures at the time. So now we fast forward twenty years and some curious businessmen. Yeah, and I don't mean that they're like mobbed up or something. I just I just legitimately, as much as I love this film and I love Roger Corman, I even I'm like, why did they think this was the one to do? But even if it wasn't a good business decision, they decided to hire Roger Corman to make a ten million dollar plus yeah just barely Frankenstein movie. Yes, well, they hired him to make a horror movie. Horror movie, and then he came up with the book Frankenstein Unbound. Yeah, and spoiler well, I don't have it ready. I don't have a spoiler alert. That's the name of the films. It's Frankenstein Unbound from nineteen ninety, directed by Roger Corman, and not only is it his last film as a director, but probably his most underrated because it just kind of vanished. Yeah, it just came and went. There was always like I would always hear people say, you know, and then there's Roger corn because pop would away call Roger Corman's what was here to just say Roger cormins Frankenstein. Okay, people will just forget the unbound part, And honestly, I think in marketing it might have been smarter just called it Roger Corman's Frankensin kind of. I mean seeing that ad at the beginning, they unbound is like the word that you could barely read, well, you know, well because the book was from the seventies or something, and I'm guessing it wasn't super well known. And also because, as we'll explain when we dive deep into this, Frankenstein Unbound is not just a Frankenstein story. It's a science fiction Frankenstein story. Although all Frankenstein stories if you really want to, you know, flitpairs. They're all science fiction, but they're also period pieces. Takes place in the eighteen hundreds. So this one, we've got the future is where we start. We've got time travel, we've got more pontification about man's desire to be God, and on top of all of that, we then wind up in the eighteen hundreds where it turns out Frankenstein was a real guy with a real monster. Yes he is, and that the book was based on reality. Yeah, that's that's like spoiling the first six minutes of the film, because that's the setting for Frankenstein Unbound. And this is one, like I said, I'd always heard about it, never really sought it out. I ended up seeking it out years later when I decided to do a hardcore dive of Roger Corman. Yeah, because some people, most people probably don't know this about me. But once you tell me like, hey, there's this movie in this movie, this movie that no one's really seen, I'm like, I'm gonna find it. You're yeah, I'm like Liam Neeson and taken it. Yeah, absolutely are. I mean I will find you there's and I'll enjoy you with a popcorn. There are a list of movies that I will send you from time to time and be like, hey, can you locate these? Because I can. I can find stuff from time to time. As far as like physical releases go. The problem is is that do I want to pay the prices for some of those physical refs? Oh, you pay the price. You pay the price on some of those, yes, But then I can also just give you a list of be like, hey, could you track these down? And I would say, regularly ninety nine point nine percent of the time you delivered. I have only failed with knowing the title of the film, because that's important to point out, like, there are plenty of movies where I'm like, I have like the inkling of a memory of it, and I still haven't found it. But that being said, I think there are two films that I have the title for and haven't found. One of them was a PM Entertainment title and one was I think a Corman title from nineteen ninety four or ninety five. I'd have to look at my notes. But that's not what we're here to talk at. Is we want to celebrate the man and now the full blown legend Roger Korman as he passed away last month and this week we're talking all about Frankenstein Unbound. So Dave, do you want to throw the deats our way or first tweets? First? Should we mention thank you to everybody? Just stop by our live streams. We aren't making a habit of it as of yet, but we did do a live stream a few days here. We had a great time. We raised money, which I was really appreciative for money to help with my pets final expenses. But most importantly, Dave got super super frustrated, play super frustrating. But okay, well, then here's when you can't argue particularly inebriated. I did get particularly I wanted to do. I want to make a T shirt that's a drawing of you with like a game controller. Yeah, and it just says super frustrated generally inebriated. I like that that would actually be pretty pretty well like this, like yeah, like the ton sticking out the side of your mouth because you're like really trying to But we have to point out that I did beat shaq Fu in like twenty five minutes on easy mode. I think it was. I think you're like, who's counting? Quiet? You know my publicis still be in touch, but no, thank you to everybody who come and came and hung out with us. It was a lot of fun. We played a lot of different games and also talked about a lot of different things too. We talked, well, that was the whole point, you know. We played video hours, which you choose the video game, but then we also played, we played video game, talked about movies, answered questions about whatever may have come up, and we streamed for a full twelve hours, twelve hours and twenty something minutes, which was all because of Dave's stubbornness. And then we also wound down watching tonat or two in its entire and its entire entirety, so which was a great choice. You know. It was like it was like one ten in the morning and it was like, all right, let's roll footage. But so thank you guys so much. And anytime we have a live stream coming up, we will try to let you guys know ahead of time so you could check it out if you want to. It's usually going to be on a weekend. And with all of that said, Dave, any of the deats on Frankenstein Unbound, which I feel like we should have like a thing like every time we say Frankenstein. With Frankenstein, I like that it is fitting. It was not a lot of storms in that movie though, I think about it, just just the when it matters, it matters, Yeah, when you're bringing life to an abomination. So frank from nineteen ninety one hour into twenty five minutes rated are our director of the film is the late great Roger Corman. He gets his start as a director and a producer on most of these as well. In nineteen fifty five with Five Guns West, he goes and dons the Beast with a Million Eyes. Well for the record, Five Guns West, I believe was one he did as an associate because he was writer on it, which is how he got his foot in the door. Yeah, because the best of Million Eyes, I think is full on first director of credit or it's a Patchy Woman. In fifty five as well, at fifty five he does I mean alone, was it four movies here? Yeah, so he does five Guns West, Best a Million Eyes, a patchy Woman, the Day of the World ended, swamp women that in fifty sixty does gun Slinger the Oklahoma Woman It conquered the world Naked Paradise Attack at the Crab, Monsters fifty seven, not of This Earth the Undead in fifty seven, which they mentioned in this trailer. Yeah, they mentioned on the trailer, which I'm not nothing, no hate on the end Dead. That's a fun film. But I didn't think that that was when people were clamoring to remember. But then again, this is nineteen ninety. Yeah, to be honest, I'm also surprised Roger Corman's name carried so much, so much. Wait, yeah, but it must have, because you don't only have Roger Corman's Frankenstein Unbound. Yeah, but then two three, four years later, yet Roger Corman presents on Showtime, which was a long running series, two years of big movies for Corman Studio. Yeah, so I guess he was a bit more of a name than we realized. I mean, of course, in ninety you didn't exist, and I barely exist. Yeah, I was like four years old. So so Rock All nine and fifty seven, Carnival Rocks, Rority, Girl, Machine Gun, Kelly the Wasp Woman, Bucket of Blood in fifty nine, than he does the House of Usher, which is his first Poe film in nineteen sixty last went on Earth in sixty as well Little Shop of Horrors, The Pit and the Pendulum, The Premature Burial, The Intruder, Tales of Terror in sixty two, Tower of Leaden in sixty two, The Raven sixty three, The Terror X, The May of the X Ray Eyes in sixty three, Haunted Palace, The Mask of the Red, Death to Maligia, The Wild Angels, Saint Valentine's Da Masacre in sixty seven, which I think is a really solid gangster Massiflick, The Trip in sixty seven, Bloody Mama in seventy Von richtenfen and Brown and seventh one Felden Brown, Richton Feldenbrown was Richten What is ritten Offen von Richtenoffen and Brown. Maybe I have it wrong, Yeah, that's in seventy one. Then he's an uncredited director on Battle beyond the Stars in nineteen eighty. But then Frankenson Unbound is his last directorial in nineteen ninety. Well, and he wasn't credited on Battle beyond the Stars. Yeah, it just says uncredited on IMDb. Yeah, he probably went in and directed a few little things fixed. It was the most expensive movie he'd ever produced, so I'm sure he had to get his Hands dirty. Writers on the film. We have Brian Aldis, who did the novel Franken Soon Unbound in his first credit IMDb in nineteen ninety. Then he's credited with AI Artificial Intelligence, the Steven Spielberg film in One Oh Wow. And he also has credit on Brothers of the Head, a film from two thousand and five as well. I've never heard of Brothers of the Head. I have not either. Roger Corman has the screenplay credit in this, along with his buddy FX feene who has Franken Soon Bound in nineteen ninety, the Big Brass Ring in ninety nine, and Don Lamb which is a short series in two thousand and nine as well. Okay, that's an interesting uh yeah, Feenie. His name's not all over the place when it comes to producing your writing credits, but he's featured his self a lot and a lot of behind the scenes with Corman. It probably was a staffer or something for a while, because when you're a staffer at a production house you don't always get credits. Yeah. Our cinematographer is Armando ne Newsy. He gets his start in ninety six. He mainly does Italian features from what I could tell from his resume a lot of Italian features. Well there, well the film was shot in Italy. Yeah, yeah, makes sense. So he does luss of Dio in fifty six, The Doll that Took Up Town in fifty seven, Careless in sixty two, the Visit sixty three, The Magnificent Cuckold in sixty four. That's a title. It is a title. That is a title. Kids Wake Up and Die in nineteen sixty six, that's a title. The Damn sixty nine, Chinos seventy three, My Name is Nobody Eat seventy three, Jesus of Nazareth the television series in seventy seven, the mini series. Oh okay, so that was when the first one I could see, like American wise. Then he did Tigers and Lipstick in seventy nine, Pagolacchi eighty two, Sahara, the Cannon Film in eighty three, he shoots that ah Ra. Then he does Mussolini and I in eighty five, Silver Bullet in eighty five, Shot Silver Bullet, Maximum Overdrive eighty six. I think I know why that happened. Okay. A certain Italian man produced those films. Oh, that's correct, Yes, he did control in eighty seven, I Love New York in eighty seven, The Gold Brim Glasses in eighty seven, Then does Frankenson Unbound in nineteen ninety, and then Night Train to Venice in ninety three was one of his last features as a cinematographer. Okay, I mean that's a hell of a lot of resume. Yeah. Second cinematographer on this is Michael Scott. Now he doesn't have a lot in regards to his cinematography credits, but for camera operator starting back in nineteen seventy two. He's a camera operator on drag Racer Streets to San Francisco in seventy seven, The Manito and seventy eight, oh I Dial m for Murder Remake in eighty one, Star Trek three, The Search for Spock in eighty four, Beer in nineteen eighty five, Ruthless People in eighty six, Black Eagle in eighty eight, Die Hard in eighty eight, and Flat Liners in nineteen ninety. Film on the Wiiz Basic Instinct, leth A Weapon three, Speed, The Specialist Species, Jade Twister, The Cable Guy, Dante's Peaks, Speed two, US Marshall's leth A Weapon four, Inspector Gadget, End of Day, Donny Darko, Doctor Doolittle, two, Anger, Management, Carnival, the series on Showtime, south Land, Tails, Texas Chancel, Massacre at the Beginning in two thousand and six, Tanaes's d in the Picadesity in two thousand and six, by an Apple Express in two thousand and eight, and Fast and Furious in nine as well. How many of those were those all DP or were those camera operator and a camera setup? From what I could tell, Oh, okay, okay, camera op is different from being a DP. No, massively, yeah, because I think first assistant, second assistant was a lot of those titles that he fell on. With those, well, sure, yeah, yeah, you're working in the camera department. Yeah, a camera This is when you work on a really big movie. The director of photography does not generally operate the camera while you're rolling film. They don't have their hands on it. Then that's for the camera operator to do. It's also famously how what's his name from Grindhouse, the other guy in Grindhouse, Robert Riguez? Thank you. It's how Rodriguez handled when studios would flat out mandate he couldn't be the DP, he would be the camera op. So we still got that experience of putting his hands on the camera because that was, you know, how he was birthed into the business. Also, since you didn't say it, Dino Dilarentis was the Italian I was referencing. I would have thought of DG. But I couldn't think of his actual name, Like I just saw DG and then I couldn't think of Dino Delarentis. One of Corman's greatest uh not a I mean kind of competitors. Yeah, competitor who grew too fast and flamed out like the rest of them, and so many great and bad movies under that title. I mean Delarentis made some fun stuff. Yes he did. Do You Even? Movie will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? So moved on to our imb. Synopsis says the Ultimate Weapon, which was meant to be safe for humanity, produces global side effects, including time slides and disappearances. The scientists behind the project in his car are transported from the year twenty thirty one to eighteen seventeen Switzerland, where he finds doctor Frankenstein and his contemporary. Now that is a mouthful of a synopsis, So I'm curious what yours will be Like my synopsis, A scientist is sent back in time to eighteen seventeen where he meets doctor Frankston and Mary Shelley during the beginning events of the famous literary work. All Right, I like that. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, Moving down to our cast, we have John Hilary Hilarity enseeris yes, my apologies. Moon. Down to our cast, we have John Hurt who plays Buchanan in this Doctor Buchanan. He gets his start in sixty two, two hundred and fifteen credits. By the way, on his resume which I wasn't breathe. I mean he was a working British actor for a very long time, which is one of the funniest parts of the movie when he says I'm American American and that fucking thick acts, although later he says he's more of a nuevo American. Yeah, so he gets a start or starting seventy two with our sixty two with z Car's probation Officer. This is my Street ITV play of the Week before Winter Comes ten Rillington Place in seventy one, The Pied Piper seventy two, The ghoul I Claudius Midnight Express in seventy eight, Watershipped Down in seventy eight, Lord of the Rings the animated film in seventy eight, Alien of Course in seventy nine. Then he goes on to do The Elephant Man in nineteen eighty, Heaven's Gate History of the World, Part One, where he plays Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Oh Okay, Night Crossing, the Plague Dogs Osterman, Weekend Champions nineteen eighty four, The Black Cauldron from the Hip Spaceballs, Deadline Scandal frankestn Unbounded in nineteen ninety, follows that with King Ralph in ninety one. Now we're talking about a feature film Thumbelina, rob Roy, Deadban, Wild Bill Contact, The Tigger Movie, Harry Potter and the Sorcerers's Stone, of Course, where he played Olivander, Dogville, hell Boy, Valiant, Skeleton Key, hell Boy two forty four inch Chest, Harry Potter and Deathly Hallows, Tinker Taylor, Soldier, Spy Merlin, Only Lovers Left, a live snow Piercer, Doctor Hugh of course, v for Vendetta Hercules. And the last thing that he was in that I can confirm is that good Night in twenty seventeen. I think he left us. I think it was twenty eighteen. I want to say, Oh, I'm sorry you didn't have time to do the research. Twenty seventeen, Er twenty seventeen Geese, Yeah, very recent. Moving down to our list, Mister Row Julia, who plays Victor Frankenstein in this. He gets his start in fifty one with Love of the Life, then goes on to do Panic and Needle Park in seventy one, The Organization in seventy one, Sesame Street, The Bob Newhart Show, Death Scream, The Gumball Rally, Eyes of Laura Mars in seventy eight, Life of Sin in seventy nine, One From the Heart in eighty one, The Escape Artist in eighty two, Tempest in eighty two, Kiss the Spider Woman eighty five, Compromising Positions in eighty five, The Morning After Tango Bar Trading hearts, Tequila Sunrise in eighty eight, Mack the Knife in eighty nine, Presumed Innocent nineteen ninety, does Frankenston and Bound in nineteen ninety, and then The Rookie in ninety as well, then The Adams Family in ninety one, which is when he started to become just an international superstar. Was in ninety one, so right after Frankenstein Bound and then The Plague in ninety two, Adams Familey Values in ninety three, and then Street Fighter in ninety four, which was unfortunately his last film. I mean, if you're gonna end, you're gonna go out, And unfortunately, really it's really a tragedy. We lost ral Julia like right when he was getting started. Yeah, and it's one of those that I am one of the one. It's like almost on par with Brandon Lee h honestly, for like, god, damn, you were just getting started. I mean, granted Raoul had a lot more time in, but he was just people were just realizing what he was capable of. Yeah, and he was kind of a lot of people think that he was on the way too after Street Fighter, being in that kind of big Hollywood star thing where he could do one for them than the couple for himself than one for them, So they thought he was heading straight into being in Oscar Worthy movies with like the occasional tent pole movie here and there, and yeah, just we lost him way too soon. I think he it was heart disease, stomach cancer, stomach cancer. Oh okay, thank you for he was diagnosed with stomach cancer and I want to say ninety one or ninety two. Man, that sucks. That was very cool. Well, and I love what he just for a moment. I love what he brought to Gomez Adams. Yeah, oh yeah, because when you look at the original depiction of Gomez Adams as a person with what was his name, John Aston, John Aston, John Aston played him great, but John asked and played him in the way John Aston is good at. Yeah, so he was very much like a what's going on here, guys, A very like all American dad. It worked great. I love the TV series. So then when they bring this movie, they were like, you know what, let's Raoul's got this internationalness to him because he's from He's from Puerto Rico, if I remember correctly. So they were like, let's let Gomez be more of this, like this vaguely European force. And I love that version of Gomez where he has that accent. You're like, where's that accent from? And if you really dig they're like, well they're Castilian, are they? And that's a whole other conversation because Gomez is not a first name that was literally a a American writer trying to give a Hispanic name to a character and not really understanding the Hispanic names. That's why he's Gomez Adams. Doesn't really make any sense. But but my point is, so Raoul Julia, I just feel like he created in two movies a Gomez as memorable as one that took what seven eight years on television to make. Yeah, that speaks volumes to how good Raoul Julia was. His emotions is Gomez Adams. I mean in the scenes when he's calling into Sally the Team show and I can't even talk about the first Adams Family movie. Yeah, when Gomez loses the will to live as a kid, I was just like ha ha. Then I watch it and all I'm like, oh, man, I mean he just, oh, your husband's a dreamer. Yeah, he's a dreamer, a law for a loaf whatever, and she just goes not anymore. And that's the other thing that she loves him for that insanity. Yeah. So anyway, but that all being said, I just want to say, yeah, losing Raoul Julia was was a tragedy for the entire film world. No, it absolutely was. And wrapping us up as our Monster, who was played by Nick Bremble. He gets to start in nineteen seventy of a film called Menace, Lust for a Vampire in seventy one, Wessex Tales in seventy three, is The Cars as Well in seventy four, The Sweeneyve seventy seven, Yanks seventy nine, SOS Titanic in seventy nine, Silver Dream Racer nineteen eighty, Masada in eighty one, one, The Final Option in eighty two, Shena eighty four, Behind Enemy Lines in eighty five. So there's another movie with that title. Oh, that would need to show Jeff propably well behind the enemy lines. I mean, whoever heard his phrase like that? Diamonds in eighty nine, Franketson Unbound in nineteen ninety, then does the BBC House of Cards in nineteen ninety Then I completely forgot about this. Plays Little John and Robin Hood Prince Thieves in nineteen ninety one. Oh he was the guy who played Little John. Well, now I can place immediately. Yeah, The Detectives in ninety four, Chef ninety four, Lockness ninety six, Ivanhoe, Gong Fishing, Ycliff, Fortress two, re Entry, Lockstock. There's a Lockstock in two Spoken Barrels TV series in two thousand and one, must have been British. Yeah, A nights Tale in One State of PLAYO three, out of Reach. Doc Martin submerged New Tricks The Bill, Doctor Who in two thousand and nine, Midsummer Murders in twenty eleven, Warren Peace in twenty sixteen, Watership Down the Netflix one in twenty eighteen, and was most recently in Grantchester in twenty twenty three. Okay, so he's still kicking here at least still going. Man has been and while it is our main cast, I would like to also mention the film does include the likes of Jason Patrick, who plays Lord Byron. We also have Bridget Fonda, who plays Mary as in Mary Shelley. There's some pretty fun people in this one, not just those three, a lot of people who are on their way. Yeah. I mean, Bridget Fonda was a name, but she would become huge in the nineties. Yeah, exactly, and right now where it was pre nineties. The movie came out in nineties, was probably shot in eighty nine. Yep, So Frank, it's unbound as of this point. This is one of those movies that has never made it off DVD, and unfortunately the DVD is a bit out of print now. But there may or may not be a way for you. I think I saw seventy six dollars was the last price I saw Amazon. Yeah, there may or may not be a way for you to find this on another website that we go by the name of white for the initials. So if you want to look for it elsewhere, so check Whitey Yeah, Whitey, white out, Whitey No. Uh but no. Yeah, Unfortunately, this movie's been relatively out of print for quite a while. Yeah, we've tried pontificating about why it might have something to do with the twentieth century Fox ownership or that may no longer be the case. It's hard to know. Yeah, because Anchor Bay did release it in a while back, but that is also out of print now. So there's only two known DVDs that ever came out of this well, And I feel like if it were, if it were possible to get the rights, Shout would have Because Shout bought Corman's entire catalog, why wouldn't they want to release his last film as a director. So what was your first time like seeing this? So the first time that I recall seeing this, because there's a chance that it was on cable or something and I'm not remembering, so I'll really lean into I remember watching it when I was probably twenty two or twenty three. I could not find a copy. I had to do, you know what evil people do on the internet to watch it. I do think that it's you get into a moral gray area where you can't buy it, where it's like not so bad. And when I was younger, I didn't mind as much. Yeah, so that's where I found it. I downloaded it and I watched it, and I was very firstly, very taken aback by the science fic beginning. Yeah. I completely was not ready for that. Yeah. And then I was somewhat expectedly taken aback by Raul julia as Frankenstein, which is like the marketing, well, I mean the marketing now for that movie should just be hey, fuckers, Raul Juliet plays Frankenstein. Yeah, and you'd like, wait, Gomez Adams like, yeah, bitch watch it. Like that would be the marketing that would get people to watch that film, because he's brilliant as doctor Frankenstein. He plays him with this this incredible blanket of stoicism wrapped around him. Yeah, which you would expect of a man of science in the eighteen hundreds. I think that's eighteen fourteen is when it takes place. Yeah, eighteen seventeen, I was. I was surprisingly close. Yeah. Yeah, he plays this man of science with this very like what I would call a gentle atheism, which was very common back then. Yeah, more so what you might have called deism. Are you familiar with the difference between deism and atheism, I'm not, well, cool, no, nic Deism is was kind of the atheism pre evolutionary biology. So deism was the belief that there was some kind of a higher power that put everything in motion, but that then that higher power stepped away. So the idea was like, well, yeah, something designed everything, but a good way to put is but there's no personal god, so like, you can't pray to it. It's just some kind of a thing. And deism was very popular in America. Most of the Founding fathers were deists or at least somewhat deists. But then after evolutionary biology was born, after they discovered evolution, a lot of people became atheists because then they started going well, we don't really need the idea of a creator from the beginning so much, and there are still some deists out there and stuff. But so to me, that was what he came across as was like a very you know, basic stoic, eighteen hundreds deist scientist. He's not quite ready to curse God, but he's not far away from it either, which is way the way Frankenstein was always Doctor Frankensty was always written anyway. So I I just I will gush the entire podcast about Raoul Julia from if I'm not careful. Also shout up for him popularizing the name Raoul in America. Before that, I would hear people say rawl because it is Paul with an R of course, you know, paou is how you would say it in Spanish. And also even I cannot get myself to say Raoul Julia because I grew up saying Raoul Julia, Raoul Julia. So I gotta just I gotta leave there. But anyway, I think that that was what really took me aback, and I remember rewatching it just about three three years ago and again being like, oh my god. There were moments, especially at the it's the third act where Frankenstein becomes the monster himself if I do say so, but he does, you know, he becomes kind of insane. There's a great moment right at the end where he says, you're mad and he just looks at him. His eyes just widen and he's like, how am I mad? And You're like you are. It's so good. So I remember really loving that. I will admit the first time I watched it, I thought the ending was kind of yeah, And the last time I watched it before today, I also did not love the ending. But this go around it clicked with me pretty strongly. Maybe it's because of carrying Siria around in my pocket everywhere, and that could be that could be whoa because you know, because now it's like all said, it's like, yeah, that computer you talk to you might be the end of the world. I'm like, hey, little personal there pal, all right, I just needed to reorder cat litter. Yeah, exactly, there's something. I don't have a cat. I don't know why I said that, but what about you? Davey? So I was made aware of this film by I mentioned him on the show before my buddy Mike, who works at one of the bookstores here in the back of my town, Troy. He and I started bonding early on, like in my teens, with movies, especially, like he would show me stuff and Frankenson Unbaum was one that I was looking through his program one day because he had the Collector's program that I have where you can catalog him. And I saw John Hurt because there's that shot at John Hurt holding the axe as he takes the gallows, and I was just like, what the hell is that? Yeah, it looks wacky. Yeah, And I was like, and he's like, he's like, you never seen Frankuson Unbound. And so I started reading about it and we we unfortunately didn't get to watch it together. But I remember I found Wanted like a half priced book sometime later, and I remembered what made me read it or watch it? By the way, what's that I read, uh Corman's first book, How I Made a Yah Hollywood out Lasting a Dime or Losing a Dime. And then I read another book which was called like Crab, Monsters, Bikers and something, and it was it was like a pictorial history of Corman. That book is insanely out of print now, by the way, but that was the book that made me want to read it, because that's the book that laid out like they offered him a million dollars he went and did whatever. In fact, in Wikipedia, everything that they seem to know about that movie is from that books. So that but I'm sorry, it just it just bopped me. I was like, that was what made me go, naw to watch it, right, yeah, do you even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do you Even movie? But no, Yeah, So I got that DVD, popped it in that night, and I and immediately to you, I was. I was kind of taken aback by the whole sci fi element and I was like, okay, this this is pretty cool. And then when he gets into eighteen seventeen, it's just like, Okay, this is just a straight up retelling of Frankenstein, but with a lot more things added into it now well and earlier and earlier. Yeah, because Frankenstein is set. I don't think it's set that far back. Yeah, but no, I was. I was blown away by Hurt's performance. I was blown away by Rol Julia, and overall I really like the way that the monster is displayed in this film because it's like it's really not about him as much. It's never been about the moment. It's never been about the monster. But I mean, the monster has what maybe ten minutes of screen time, uh maybe a little, maybe a smidge smitch more if not much. Fifteen would be top. But it's mainly just those scenes between Hurt and and Ral just in the room together with each other like that. That's the It's amazing watching them circle each other. Yeah, and I also want to give big shout outs to the design of the monster. The poster was always an eyeball, yeah, with stitching, and they did that in the movie. Yeah, and it's unnerving and I bet it hurt to put those contacts, and guarantee you did. But his eyeballs are when you get close up shots of him, even on the DVD where you're not getting all of the detail in the world, yeah, you can see stitching. His eyes are pieces of other eyes. Yeah, which, to be honest, why But also it was so cool. Its cool, No, no, it's totally cool and like, but that's the kind of thing you would expect to be only on the posters, Yeah, you know, you would expect like, well, yeah, it's a visual representation of what it is to be Frankenstein, and then you see Frankensy's mantrio no he's got stitches and the eyeballs. Well, and I think, honestly too, it goes back to the thing that like, there's so many, so many versions of franks I mean, I showed you that trailer for that nineteen ninety fours. They're at least six at least six, yes, might be seven. But like we watched Fesden's Depraved, you know, some years ago, Yeah, which is a fun that was a fun version of modern telling. Of course, Lisa Frankenston just came out recently, which is maybe loosely but yes, I was about to say my favorite Frankenstein, yeah, recent one, but I just remembered that if I say that, it ruins the whole film. Okay, well we'll save it to the end. Oh man, no, no, I know, not this film. It ruins the film I'm mentioned. Oh, okay, there's there's a movie. I don't want to name it. If you've seen it, you'll know it immediately. But it seems like it's a movie about a woman being chased by a stranger and then at by the end of the movie you realize he's literally doctor Frankenstein and he made the woman. Yeah, but I don't want to because that was like the greatest reveal ever and such a cool I found that movie like randomly on like Showtime, like recently. Yeah, so, I but I don't want to say the word of the name because it ruins it. But it's a great film. Yeah. So, speaking of great film, you're ready to get into frankson Unbound. Yeah, let's do it, all right. So we open with a shot of a man wondering at snowy Tandra as we hear John Hurt as doctor Buchan and start a narration talking about how you know, he's been searching for this time and that they are dealing with the situation of you know, what is man made, what's made by God. Then we cut to twenty thirty one New Los Angeles as we hear about the beginning of time slips as they are showing us the Safe World Project Safe World, which is a laser beam, a particle beam that's the most like I guess advanced weapon that they're trying to create, but it's supposed to be safe for all of humanity. It would I would hope it was the most advanced weapon known to man because it's capable of maybe destroying I was gonna say the world, but that's really under selling it. I love that they start with with a statue of the statue of liberty, and that's that's what they that's what they shock. Yeah, well that's pretty solid symbolism. Yeah, you're destroying America, Yeah, destroying freedom, You're destroying all of those concepts. It's like a laser gun, but the lasers are constantly moving. It's this really weird like animation. Yeah, animation, but you know the they are animated. Yeah, I mean it looks like a laser light show. Yeah. And as the lasers get more and more intense, something just disappears. Yeah, well but it doesn't disintegrate. It goes somewhere else. Because that's one thing he mentions is like in the blink of an eye, all of the enemy, all of your enemies are gone because they are literally somewhere else. And that's you know, that's a pretty great telling. And if you think about the concept behind this film, think about the idea of like it's a weapon, a perfect weapon, an amazing weapon, and well what happens to the bag is they go somewhere it's not our problem. Yeah, that's very telling of like the idea of like nuclear radiation stuff, Like it's like we don't exactly know, but like it's probably somebody else's problem there. I think that their thought, although they don't say it out loud, I don't believe I don't remember them saying directly, is that the thought is like, well, they're probably being sent to like before Earth even existed, or like the middle of the galaxy where they're just gonna die some place that's gonna put them to death pretty quickly. Ye, yeah, yes, yeah, and not they're not thinking like, oh, it's just gonna make everybody pile up, you know at the Empire State Building in nineteen fifty three. No, that's not what they're not gonna happen. But but I love that idea that it's like, well, we don't exactly know where it goes, but it's fine. And then somebody says like then, uh, doctor Buchanan even says like and it's perfectly safe, allowing you to have all the powers of your own black hole. And I'm like, yeah, that sounds that's sounds safe. So safe. That's the safest thing I've ever heard that sounds safer than eating chips and dip. Well, then of course we have the fun the people that are there that are paying for his research, and they you know, they're they're they're looking over the demonstration he's given, and right as they're finishing up the demonstration, this giant cloud appears in the sky that is black and like opening up what looks like a void. And he's like, He's like, oh, it's barely registering. It's nothing to worry about. Sciences, Yes, Like, is that a problem that it's barely registering? And because Eve, when we're watching it, was like, well we can see it. Yeah, so that seems worrisome. Yeah, and it's because what was this twenty thirty one New Los Angeles. They've had freak weather incidents and other predictable side effects from using this laser and testing it. Yeah, which should be worry some worry some in the fact that he gets into his car, his supercar, and he watches the news as they're talking about the freak weather incidents and everything that's occurring. Yeah, you might have well, and this is an important thing to keep in mind. Yeah, this is to me referencing the first atomic bomb test because I don't know if you if you recall this, but there was a legitimate fear that there was a possibility that when you split that first atomic let's split that first atom of uranium or plutonium, that it would cause a chain reaction that would just blow up the entire it wouldn't stop, because that was the whole thing that the seen of Oppenheimer where they talked to Eindsight at the end. Yeah, they're trying to figure out, like what it will it just keep going? Yeah, so now we're kind of in a world where it's like, actually, it just keeps going, just keep You can't put you can't undre this spell. Yeah, you can't put the genie back of the bottle on this one. So he tells his team that he wants to work with the laser prototype for tonight before he leaves the lab and on his drive home, he sees the news report talking about the weapons testing and its side effects, and then he arrives home, but his car alerts him to the fact because his car talks to him, and his car a lurts from the fact that there are intruders in his yard and they're like, you know, do you want me to lead the police, and he's like, no, no, it's probably children. So he pulls up to his home to find a group of like four kids and they're burying an old bicycle. Yeah, they're burying like a shwim, like a bike you would you would recognize, yeah, from our time frame and stuff. And I love it because he's like, he's like, oh, did the old one die? And the kid's like, oh, yeah, she got a new one and they showed up. He's like, it died this morning. Yeah, And he's like, how do you know it's dead? And he goes, she got a new one. Yeah, and he's like, oh progress, progress. What a symbol. They're burying a bicycle for a new fancy bicycle. So they're having a funeral for the bike. Suddenly another storm appears, and this one descends upon them and brings a like Hungarian warrior with them that's on horseback. Yeah. I don't think it was a hung Gar literal hunt, yes, no, but like literally it looks like somebody from Attila the Hunt, yeah, or or or maybe even Genghis Khan some era like way back on horse age, riding out of the clouds throws a spirit ut Buchanan, but the spear suddenly gets sucked back into the cloud with the warrior and then also if you can and get sucked in with it. And he comes to on a nice grassy hillside, and luckily for us, we only have to worry about the cloud losing our photos. That's true, not just us. It goes up to the cloud. So he is found to be on the hills of Switzerland, which he doesn't know yet, but he's with his car, and his car informs them that they do not have any connections to satellites, TV or even radio, so he's not getting anything. He's like, you know, where are we? So he wanders into a nearby town and he finds a local end and everybody's dressed in I guess you could call it period type clothing, like almost like it's the eighteen hundred. Yeah, like the eighteen hundreds. And he's like, you know, the end's like and keepers like, you know, can I help you? And he's like, well, you know, I'd like to get some food. And he opens up his wallet and he's like, well shit, I only have credit cards. So he takes off Hi It's pretty too, Frank. Ye, two Franks, Swiss Frank takes off his ring and he's like, how much will this get me? And he's like fifty francs and I think that the trout dinner and trout the Franks and he's like, yeah, yeah, no problem at all. So then he sits down with the man and he's like, you know, do you mind if I sit here? And the man goes, well, I can't stop you, and he sees the date on the newspaper that the man is reading is eighteen seventeen, and then the man puts down the paper and we see mister ral Julia as Victor Frankenstein in all his glory, sitting there reading his paper, eating his meal, stoic as fuck, and he does not know he's Frankensign yet. So he talks to him and he's like, you know, who are you? Like, you know what what? Why are you wearing that kind of attire? And John Hurt's character explains to him that he's a doctor and that he's come you know, he's come back here, but he doesn't say that he's from the future. And he's like, oh, you're a doctor. Well I'm a doctor too, Yes, yes, taking notice of his watch because his watch starts going off and he's like, you know, how do you how do you keep timing? He's like, can I look at that? And he looks at his watch and he's like, well, there's like digital numbers, like you know, there's no face, no hands, like, you know, how do you read that? Like how does he keep And he's like, oh, it's electricity. He's like, but it's so small. Yeah, he just can't believe that something is so sm all have electricity in it. So the innkeeper comes over, commenting on the recent passing of the man's brother, and he says, you know that they hope they get justice for the witch that killed him. And that's when we find out that it is Victor Frankenstein and his little brother William, has recently been killed. But they don't know who did it, but they suspect Justine, the nanny, is the one who did it. Yeah, it makes perfect sense because she was found with his locket. But we'll get that tiny woman definitely killed that grown man. So the man excuses himself, but not before he states that his name is doctor Frankenstein, and you Canton, intrigued follows doctor Frandstein to this section of the woods with his carriage, and he finds him speaking to some kind of creature and the creature is begging him for what he asked him for. He wants what he wants and then he will go and leave Malone. Suddenly, some falling rocks knock doctor Buchanan out and he goes into this really weird nightmare where he's just surrounded by a street filled with corpses. The nightmares are an interesting touch. Yeah, I don't think they entirely hit their mark at the way that I think they were trying to. Yeah, honestly, you mentioned Oppenheimer. Yeah, it kind of felt like that was kind of what Oppenheimer did with the whole Like he has the nightgers about the reality of his creation, and that's kind of what doctor Buchanan is having, is he's having these images of like basically the decimation of humankinds that he maybe caused. But it's all in relation to the Frankenstein lore for the most part, because it's all taking place back in the eighteen seventeen Wait wait, wait, are you trying to say frankensteign is about something other than making the like monster and it could be. So he treks back to his location after he wakes up on the hillside. These dogs are like coming at of room, but he gets them off him and then goes back to the location of his car, which is hitting at this little cottage in the hills, and he questions to his car the probability reversing the time slip using the laser prototype cannon on his car. Yeah, because this car has got one of those. And one of my favorite things in this movie is one of the cheesiest things in this movie. Yeah. I cannot get enough of him driving that car. Yeah, this futuristic goofy his own car. Yeah, yeah, driving it through the countryside of eighteen cars. Well, eventually he just drives it through the town. He's like fog itt I mean, he he has the the the calm care of affecting the timeline of a Captain Kirk. Yeah, basically the only thing he didn't do was seduc a green woman. That is true. But you know, we never got frankson Unbound, too, so we never knew what kind of happened or the director's oh I'm sure there is one, probably, I'm you know, maybe or corner was probably like h like, what's the million dollar check cash? He's probably like, oh, what you do is fire, So he asks his car in his car says that it's gonna take ninety six hours for it to get it an answer if he can actually reverse the time slip. So he parks the car, hiding it again, and ventures back into town. He dons the proper attire this time, and he begins to follow doctor Frankston and his wife to where he finds the trial of Justine, the nanny, who is accused of murdering. But it's not the only thing being talked about, because there are witnesses to some kind of monster in the town, one of which is a farmer who claims to have a footprint of the creature that killed all his sheep, and they laugh at him because when he takes up the barrel or the the thing that has the dirt in it, all the dirt has run over, so there's no longer a footprint there. Yeah, it was like, and that's that's a sketch. Yeah, So then they bring Justine out, but as they do this, doctor Buchanan notices a young woman in the court taking notes, and so he sits with her and finds out that it's actually Mary Shelley. Well her name's marrying something out something, Yeah, but she will become become Mary Shelley, Yes, And that's when they go back into the court case that the young nanny who was found with William Frankenstein's lockett is being accused of the murder and also of course being charged of witchcraft because why not, well, because you fuck it, let's go. So Justine is unfortunately found guilty of William's murder and she is going to be sentenced to hang it until dead in the morning. So bu Canon follows Victor out into the woods. As he calls out for the monster, he's like, you know, hey, I know you're out here. Reveal yourself. I know you're back. And the monster suddenly grabs a Buchanan and he threatens to kill Buchanan if a Victor does not deliver what he asked for. Well, but how he threatens, Yeah, he's holding him by the head, yeah, like by the jaw face area with one hand, and he just and when he tells him, like I'll kill him, he just lifts him up. Yeah. So the creature's probably about seven feet tall, yeah, give or take. And so he just holds the guy up about a good foot above his own head with no effort at all, one while talking to Doctor Frankenstein. And that is one of the best show Don't tells to reveal just how dangerous Frankenstein's monster is. And then of course when he tells him, you murdered my brother, yeah, Frankenstein, the monster literally goes, what is murder? Yeah? What is murder? You should have made him stronger, You should have made stronger like me. He will well, he says, what is murder? He doesn't even know, And he says, you made his life stop and then he goes. Then he says the whole thing about well he was easy to crush, did Why didn't you make him stronger? It's like, I did not make him. He's like, well, he came from a woman given one. How has I made And he says, you know, I made you? And he's like, what about your brother? And that's a whole thing that goes throughout the rest of the movie. Isn't questioning the existence of God? Yeah? He wants to understand if he has a creator? Yeah, then and it's doctor Frankenstein. Then doesn't everyone have a creator? Yeah? And It's funny because you know, you ask that question and you get a different answer nearly anywhere you go. Yeah, you know, I love later on when he just said when he says who created, he was like, I don't know. Maybe God, God, maybe God. We'll get to it later. So the monster threatens to crush everyone around Victor, uh you know, if he does not give him what he wants, which is a mate. He does not want to be alone. He wants to have a mate, and Victor refuses. He says he will not create again, and the and the Monster's like, okay, well then I'll kill everyone, you know. So then Victor fires a shot from his gun at him, and the monster scurries off. The creature then questions or then you can in questions? You know what? What is he like? What did you do? And Victor refuses, and the monster like tells him that he's gonna murder Elizabeth then if he does not deliver, and then he runs off. Yeah, and it's uh so it's not great news. Do you even? Movie will be right back, welcome back to do you even? Movie? Victor Doctor Frankenstein questions, why do you can't is following him before confessing that he knows everything, like he knows who he is, he knows what he's doing, and he questions why Justine must die for his sins, And of course this is where we start to get a little bit of crazy row Julia, because he's like, you know, I'm a scientist. I don't have sins. Yeah, I'm a scientist. I do not sin. Yeah, So Buchanan begs him to help Justine. So we cut to the high a little cottage in the hills, and Victor is writing a letter. Of course, he's amazed by this penn. He's like, endless flow of ink. It's just a ballpoint. Then no, I but I love that, like because really like anything you hand him, he's gonna be like how Yeah. So Justine's in a sense and he says, you know, he's asking where Buchnon came from, and Victor states that they are brothers of science, because Buchnon states, you know, well, I'm I'm a doctor. You know, he doesn't he doesn't say yet that he's from the future. He just says that he is. He's also a study a guy that studies in his brothers. So most he gives as I'm from America. Yeah, yeah. And oh, by the way, I saw a meme this morning that I just remember, just started think about it because the movie it was literally just this like drawing of a guy who's like it was like time traveling. He's like, man, I can't wait to go back in time with all of my advanced knowledge. And then he's just standing with like a group of like of clergy and doctors and stuff like that. So how does this cell phone work? And he's like, I don't know, And that's the whole meame. I don't know. So later that night, the monster wanders into the woods and we start to see fireworks going off above his head. There's something being celebrated in town. They begin to echo, so he wanders into town trying to find them, and he comes across these two kids that are just absolutely scared of him. When they come across him, why and why weird huh? So then he questions who made them, and the boys are just screaming, So they draw the attention of a cop who comes over and he's blowing his whistle trying to get the attention to somebody helping with the monster, and the Monster's like, you know, stop that, putting his hands over his ears because the whistle's hurting his ears. The guy just keeps blowing the whistle, so then he picks him up. The guy stops and he goes, I told you to stop that, then just takes his hand and chucks it right into his Ribca's ripping out the heart. And it's a great sequence because the fireworks are going off in the sky and everything, and there's a constant reference to this being post Napoleon. Yeah, h Switzerland. That's a joke he actually makes when he sits down. Yeah. Yeah, that's a very common thing people are talking about. Also worth mentioning that that that him his ears hurting, Yeah, is because doctor Frankenstein made him the best yep. Gave him the best eyesight, the best hearing, the best strength. He references multiple times like I improved both proof muscle so that they could work better together and stuff like that. So that would be a negative, that would be an handle the whistle. So I mean, you gotta rip his heart out. I gotta rip his heart out. So the next morning, doctor Buchanan goes to take the letter to Elizabeth that Victor said that he confessed everything too, so she welcomes it in gives him the letter if you can, and tries to convince her that they have to take the letter to a judge. She's like, well, why there's nothing condemning in here, Like I can't go against victor women. I mean, you know, he just bu Canon really doesn't want that girl to hang, as is proven by like the most batshit moment of this movie aside from the last the third app Yeah, when he goes to see the hanging. So he tries to convince her, but you know she will not go against her own husband. So if bu Canon now has his car pretty copy of Mary Shelley's Husband to Husband to be yes to my apologies, has his car print a copy of Mary Shelley's Frankstein, So who actually prints Frankenstein Unbound because it's not you know, it is not bound. Yes, you could leave, please leave this place. So he prints a copy of the book trying to find out some more stuff, and that's when he actually goes to meet Lord Byron and Percy Shelley and Mary on their property and he wins Byron over because Byron's just who's played by Jason Patrick just walking around the water with a pistol like firing shots off. He's, well, he's an example of like being a literal aristocrat. Yeah, he's bored. Yeah, he just wants interesting things. So he gives him one toy, his magnifying glasses like monocular classes. Yeah, they're like binoculars and glasses. Yeah, he gives those to him, and he's immediately so amused by them that he's very helpful. He's like, hey, join us for breakfast, like, let meet everybody. So he gives them these glasses and he sees Mary, you know, he goes to spy on Mary and Percy and sees that Mary is riding in the boat. So that's when he invites them to join them for breakfast. So Percy Shelley as well is there and Mary comes in greeting Buchan because they've already met at the court trial, so she already knows him, and he, you know, he asked her, you know, if she could help him in regards of getting Justine's Ennison's found, and she's like, you know, well I just don't have the time right now. So then bu Canon decides to run and stop the hanging himself with just an axe, just an ax, So he is running towards town. He gets to the gallows, grabs an axe, runs up on the stage and they don't have her in the noose yet, and he's like, you know this, this woman goes free. Well, he doesn't realize he's standing on the trap door, so he just falls to the trap door. The mob rushes him. They start carrying him off. Then they just hang Justine like it's nothing. Well, I mean know, it's all, it's nothing. They all cheer. They all cheer. Yeah, right in front of him. Hey, they didn't have you know, uh, you know, thank god it's Friday, right they had. So then to add insult to injury, they just carried you cannon over to a cliff and chuck him over the side into the water, which I mean, that's one way to do it. And then he has the nightmare that now he's on an operating table as Frankensin is with his limbs being lasered off and put together and whatnot. And is this when she calls him an abomination or is that the next one? I think that might have been that one. Yeah, I think it is so coming to in the water. Mary is with him, and she's questioning how he knows about her book. How he knows about her writings. You know, she hasn't published anything yet, she just started writing. And he offers to show her rather than tell her. That's when he brings out his car and he also shows her the manuscript for Frankenstein. They drive through the countryside and they catch the attention of a few locals like I said, well, which I well, you know it's all it's not just a car. It's this ridiculous, futuristic looking car and they've never seen anything. No, so she got everybody calls it a carriage because that's all they have to go off of. Well, I mean the car was originally called the horseless carriage. Yeahs sense, so if you can't, and confesses to Mary that he's from the future. He shows her the book and she questions, you know, how does an end? How long will she live? Like she starts questing all these things that he could answer, and he's like, do you really want me to answer that? Like do you really want to know? And that's when she's like, you know, you can stop the car, I'll get out, And that's when they go over to the side of the river bank and he, you know, he points like out his monsters, he calls it, which is the cloud. And that's what he says. Where's where he came from is the void in the sky. And he compares himself to franket Stein for creating a monster with his weapon. And I mean that's where the subtleties finally fade away. Yeah, because the Mary states that he's not a man of religion, so his science must be his religion. But science also breeds madness for a man with no religion, which I do love that one. That's a good line. No, it's a really good line. So they kiss and embrace each other, as Mary states, you know that Percy and Lord Byron, you know, preach free love, but she practices it. So you know, John hurt gets it on with Mary Shelley, Yeah he does. And first of all, if you're gonna make a movie or write a book about going back in time, I mean, why wouldn't you also have your main guy just like time travel sex just just sock it to Mary Shelley once, yeah, you know, just once, just one time. So Elizabeth, back at her home, requests a carriage because she wants to go see Victor. You can returns to his hut and he finds Victor waiting for him, and Victor Frankenstein tells Buchanan that he's decided to make the monster a mate and hope of saving Elizabeth. And in the woods we see that Elizabeth is on her way, but now the monster is tailing her carriage, so he's following her as she's going to Victor. Victor begs for Buchanan's help with electricity, because he says, you know, he doesn't know it, the harness that he doesn't understand it, but you do. So is tailing a carriage? Is that a euphemism? It might as well be right, hey, So doctor Buchanan shows Victor Mary's novel as well, and Elizabeth screams. Suddenly echo through the woods as we see the monster has caught up to her. He's climbed under her horses and stopped the horses now too, so she falls off the carriage. He literally puts his hands on the horses and stops. Yeah, another example of this massive, unbelievable strength, and of course that causes Elizabeth the faults of the ground. She questions what monster is he as he states that Victor made him, and she says, well, you know, well, Victor's my husband. He wouldn't want me to see any harm. And the monster goes, I know, and then just opens her rib cage up entirely. Yeah, it just rips her open like a friggin' Reese's peanut butter cup. Yeah, showing no emotion as he does it, of course, and then Victor arrives a little happy about it, yeah, a little bit. Victor arrives though, and shows no moment. Well that's just his move, So finds our body and shows no emotion, and Buchanan is mistaken for Elizabeth murder as this mob comes at them quickly, and then the monster shows up again and starts making mincemeat of those people as well. Yeah, yeah, he has no problem, just rips off one guy's arm, yeah, and just tearing people apart literally. So then the rest of them scatter because they're trying to hang Victor. The monster just dispatches them, so the rest of them scatter, and that's when the monster finds up Buchanan and he is told by Victor to be careful with him, as they can help each other, and Buchanan has another nightmare now if him being Frankenstein. Okay, this is the one of him being Frankenstein as Byron, Percy and Mary are looking over him, and she calls him an abomination in the eyes of God. I mean, when you're right, you're right. So if Buchanan comes to at a church that Victor is at and the monster questions, you know, is he alive, and he's like, yes, I am, and then the monster throws him outside his Victor is leaning against his car, reading his manual to the car as well, well, I mean, it's a good way to pass the time. It is a good way to pass the time. And he realizes that this car has the electricity in the power that it possesses and tells him that he'll get no help from him as the monster grabs him, choking him, and Victor goes, you know, I could let him play with you all night if you want. You know, you want to think about it and give me another answer again, you know, I mean, at least you get a choice. Yeah, So we asked him, he'll reconsider, and you can. And gets word from the car that he has introduced a new composition into the world in time and space, and that has made the answer unbound. It has lessened his probability to reverse the time slip, so now he really doesn't have much of a choice on how to get home. Yeah, and it's one of many creative uses of the phrase unbound, which makes sure that the movie makes sense. Unlike one of Dave's favorite movies, Burnt, where nothing gets burnt. This is true, so the movie you're not cooking anyway. The monster, taking notice of the car, questions, you know, is it a man? You know, how how is it created? And he then requests the monster, you know, can you take these cables up to the top of the tower and tie them off so we can have this eccept And they look like ropes, but they're actually electrical cables. They're they're copper wiring. So the creature is literally carrying like three hundred pounds of copper wire that's that's braided like rope. Yeah, just climbing a tower like it's nothing. Yeah. He I mean, he's the man for the job, the abomination job. Yeah. So the monster in Buchanan ascend to the tower. As the monster begins to connect the cables, the monster again questions you know who made you? And Buchanan states, I don't know, God maybe, and the Monster's like, well, who is this god? Maybe, and Buchanan tells him that he better ask Victor, and the Monster's like, well, I intend to, so you can, and goes down, telling the car that he wants it to load a laser implosion program. So the monster and Victor have no idea about this. Well, I think if they were, like if they heard him say load a laser laser implosion whatever, they'd be like what what? Yeah. So, before joining the monster back in the church, he looks the monster is looking over his mate that turns out to be Elizabeth. So Victor is using Elizabeth's body to make the monster a mate. Well, a major portion of you know, parts parts, there are parts abound in this are unbound, I guess, thank you. So back in the chair, you know, they're looking over Elizabeth's body and he states that no man can create a soul, and that's when you can, and starts calling Victory out. He's like, you're mad, like you're crazy, Like you cannot keep doing this, and of course Victor is just like what do you mean by Victor laughs at him before instructing the Monster to pull the first lever, and the car readies to implode and we hear it's at ninety eight percent approaching ninety nine percent. Two more levers are pulled, and we see Elizabeth briefly start to move, and then her movement just fails again. So Victor's freaking out. He's like, you know what, what can you do? I Buchanon like, we have to get this going. We can't stop it now. So Victor demands more power or she will die, but Buchanon states there's nothing he can do, as Victor has the monster pulled every remaining lever. Now in this I guess you could call it mix shape makeshift laboratory. Well, and it's important to keep in mind that the more electricity goes to the potential bride of Frankenstein's Yeah, the more potential power goes that, the more is going into the car to power it to send up this a laser being mountain and sort of obliterate them everything. Yeah, in sense, in a way, he injects Elizabeth with more fluid to get her to go. The car begins, the laser implosion sequences, Elizabeth come back to life right before our eyes, and Victor states she lives. The laser begins, opening up a time void again as Buchanan tells Victor to meet his monster, and that's when suddenly Buchanan is back in his frozen area that the film started in, but he's not alone, as we see Victor coming out of one of the rooms with him. Well, he's especially not alone, yeah, as they took most of the building with them as well as is now scattered a piece. Yes, yes, I mean it's it's seen better days, seeing better days, but it brought it with him. Yeah, So he's a victor coming with him and questioning what has he done, and he wants him and he's like, you know, put it back, and he's like, I can't. I don't know how. Yeah. Well, I mean yeah, there's no way for him to do that. Yeah. So he's like, you know, put it back or I'll kill you, drawing his pistol on him, but he stops as he finds out Elizabeth and the monster are with them as well, and Elizabeth now walking with the monster. She shows fear for the monster until he tells her to take her hand and they're comparing their hands and that's when Elizabeth recognizes Victor telling her to step away from the monster. It's important to point out victor, I guess improved her hand, so she has an extra thumb on either side of her hand. Yeah, it's pretty gross, and a bunch of other like so, like just seeing her own hands, she's she's realized immediately what she is and what he's done for her, and that is an incredibly mortifying moment, really great because the Monster is happy to see her, but he's been demanding a mate. He's even said if you if you make me a mate, I will leave you never see me again. Because the Monster's big thing is that he's alone. He's completely alone, because he's very much taken after. For those who've never read, not that I'm some literary genius, but if you've never if you've only experienced Frankenstein from the lens of kind of the mainstream motion pictures. He doesn't speak in the movies, but in the book he pontificates, he asks questions about his existence and about man and about life and all this stuff. And that's definitely what they're kind of. It's hard to do it in a not cheesy way in a movie. I'm not gonna say that they nail it in this one either. It's kind of silly how this like creature is like, but what is God? But you let you suspend your disbelief, you put it in a box, you torture it a little bit. Uh. And and I do like this depiction of Frankenstein quite a bit. He also kind of looks like Victor Crowley. Well, Victor Crowley kind of looks like him, be a better way to put it. Yeah, but no, So I do appreciate that we got the thoughtful Frankenstein because also the other point of why Frankenstein's monster talks in the book and wonders and everything is he's given a brain. Yeah, he's given a good brain, because everything that Victor does is to make the monster better than man. Yeah, not an abby normal one, not an abby normal one. But there was still a roll in the hair. Do you Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do You Even movie. She is just realizing what a monster she is, and Victor's like, you know, come away from him, come to me, And so she goes towards Victor, but of course Victor still having his pistol out, she just falls right in front of it, grabs it and makes him kill her by shooting. Jumps in front of it and grabs it, so yeah, as he's about to kill the monster so that he can have his monster bride. Yeah, it's it's one of the like smoothest, Like the motion is so sudden, you really feel like you couldn't have stopped it. Because he's like about to shoot. She jumps in front and points the gun right in her own heart, so that he just kills her right then and there. Yeah, So now Victor has accidentally killed his bride. I mean, I guess it was his bride at one time. It's he made it. So the monster grabs Victor angry and immediately puts him up in the air, breaking his back and then throwing him to the ground. So he's just a pile of bones at this point. Well, well hold on, I mean yeah, he literally lifts him over his head. Yeah, and then instead of like what you would expect, yeah, dropping him on his knee or breaking him in half, he gives him just a good twist and you hear all the snapping and cracking, and then he tosses him aside and more snaps. And he's not dead yet. No he's not, because his last words as the monster runs off and Buchanan goes to check on him. Yep, as blood is trickling from his mouth and he's raul Julie is so fucking good. Yeah, he looks at him with this like pleadingness in his eyes. He says, kill it and then he dies. He dies so good. I got goosebumps. That's such a crazy scene. So then Buchanan deciding to do it, he goes and grabs the pistol in a coat and begins to track the monster through the footprints in the snow, and he comes to a hatch midway and he sees the hatches open and it goes down into a bunker. So climbing down the ladder, Buchanan finds a fully functional lab with computers, lights, everything, and the lab even welcomes him and says welcome doctor Buchanan. Yeah knows him. So that's when suddenly the monster breaks through a wall and informs him that this world has been made much better, more so than Victor ever could. And Buchanan questions how, and he says, he created this. This is your brain for the city across the way. Well, and he says that the reason the world is better is it's a lonely world. Yeah, like his world. Is lonely. Yes, it's a barren world like he is barn which is some good shit. That's very good shit. So yeah. Buchanon questions how he created this, and the monster informs him this is the brain of the Great City, the last vestige of mankind, so if you can, and shoots the monster, dropping into the ground, but the monster comes back angry and tries to kill him. There's a whole chase of the lab where he is getting these lasers ready also to fire on the monster. Yeah, he's prepping a trap and also just attacking him with things. At one point he stabs the monster with a pipe, yeah, and his bloodstar's pouring out. The just rips it out of himself. I mean, he shoots it in the head, he I mean, and it becomes very clear that this creature's gonna be really hard to kill. Yeah, And the monster even questions what makes him want to kill him, and Buchanan comments that he's an abomination in the eyes of God, stating, you know, well, what makes you better? And he goes, well, I'm a Frankenstein, which I get why he says that, but also I don't know if it if it's something I like from the Oh, he's following in his creator's footsteps. Yeah, think about that. Okay, no, no, no, no, think about it, but no, really think about that for a second. He's following in his creator's footsteps. Oh shit, his creator followed in his creator's footsteps and made a monster. Yes, he's so it's a cycle. That's really okay, now that's actually really cool. Yeah no, no, like that's a yeah, it just it just took. That's why we talk about movies, so we can find stuff we missed. So he shoots him again, as the monster angrily rips off his own arm, chasing him around the lab a little more, destroying many pieces of the lab because he's trying to he's trying to get he's trying to get you canon as the can you can't, and quickly realizes that he can control the lasers because, like he said, the brain is this lab, So anything that he does movement wise and stuff triggers anything in this lab. So he sets all these lasers to coming on the monster, and the monster just starts burning alive, and he says he doesn't understand that he can't kill him, and we watched the lasers quickly take down this monster before the lasers prompt the door open, allowing you can to escape the lab. And this is another part of like the headiness of the movie because as he's walking out, he hears the monster's voice in his head and he says, I'm unbound. Yeah, you think you have killed me, but I am forever. I am unbound. But what that means is to me is in two directions. Number one, the hole, you can't put the genie back in the body, you can't underring the bell. That's number That's that's part of it. Yeah, and then also the fact that he the monster. Frankensti's monster is just a representation of what man will do as long as there is a man to think. Yeah, they will challenge the creation and they will challenge those things because I mean, that's what Frankenstein's always been about. It's about it's about the dangers of playing god, the dangers of doing things from a place of no morality. Yeah, So he really is like, He's like, you can't kill me because I'm an idea, and I'm an idea in your own fucking head, because you made Because I love that moment when they see the rift and Frankens is like, what is that and he goes, it's my monster. It's so good. It's so good anyway, So if you canon then approaches the City and that, my friends is nineteen nineties Roger Corman's Frankenstein Unbound. Yeah, yeah. And I will say, if you're seeking this film out and it is very hard to get a hold of, whether you're watching it on the internet somehow or you actually, you know, manage to get a DVD, I think this film would do so well with a real high end transfer, absolutely, because some of the sets and stuff don't look that good. Because it's also plain Jane, I would love to see this movie remastered. I would love to see them pop the colors and make the dark tones dark and eerie. I pray it's gotta come some day, cause we're getting to a point now where like we're getting special editions of movies where it's like, why are they even doing this? So this has gotta happen. It's gotta happen. It really really does. But that all being said, Dave, where do you want to go from here? So we've got some some trivia, there's not so the problem with a movie like this in regards to both its release and just general information out there is very slim. There's no bonus features on the disc. I have its bare bones. There has never been another release with a commentary anything. And trying to find anything behind the scenes on this is between a Wikipedia and IMDb. It's pretty it's pretty sparse, it really is. So budget was eleven point five million, opens on November two of nineteen ninety and brings in three hundred and thirty five thousand dollars. I'm guessing that it was like released in one city, probably Los Angeles or something like that, or maybe two cities. Yeah, it was not a theatrical film. I think it was always considered a home video when we couldn't even find a TV spot for the program. Yeah. Yeah, if there's no TV spots from a movie in nineteen ninety, it was not in major theaters. Yeah. So film in Italy parts of Milan and Bellaggio and shot in seven weeks. I mean that sounds right. Producer Tom Mount approached Corman the idea to get him back directing after two decade absence to find a strip. To find a script strong enough, he looked at known writers like Wes Craven and Floyd Mutricks to craft something, but ended up having FXC. Sweeney adapt Brian Aldsen's novel paid one million dollars to direct it as well. Yeah, I mean that one million dollar that's hard. I wouldn't I mean, I obviously wouldn't turn it down. But I can see Corman being like, I can take a half a year away from my business. I'll just let Julie suffer through it. Yeah. So the title is a reference to the full title of Mary Shelley's original novel of Frankenstein, the Modern Prometheus, which is shown in the film of Course and Percy by Shelley's lyrical drama Prometheus Unbound. The futuristic car that Buchanan drives is an eighty eight. It's Howel design Aztec concept car. Okay and Nick Bremble received an introducing credit despite having been in eight theatrical movies both UK and US productions, as well as many high profile television dramas. I did find it weird because when I saw that said and introducing, but then you read a huge list of Yeah, I was kind of surprised by that. So, what are your final thoughts on Frankenstein unbound. I think that this is definitely definitely a rented if you love Frankenstein. I want to read the book now. I'm actually going to get the audible book when we're done recording. Yeah, I really want to read it because it's just it's so funny. It's really funny. You take a frank the Frankensis story from the eighteen hundreds, yeah, and you're like, wow, it still applies in many ways. Sure, but now you take a book from like the nineteen seventies about artificial intelligence and weapon development and all this stuff. I post nuclear Frankenstein. That's I think a good way to put it. Yeah, post nuclear Frankenstein. And then it's made. This movie's made in the nineties, so like everything is just like still not now. But I think it really taps into a modern mindset in a way that I think is valuable. Like and just now, like when we were talking about it, we found things we hadn't realized about the movie. Just talking about it's talking a little bit. I will forever be enraptured by the idea that you were like, I kind of hate that line, and I said, I said three things about it. You're like, it's a great lot. Like, that's the that's the beauty of movies. That's why we sit here and talk about them, is because you never know what you're gonna miss. And I think that if you, you know, if you don't like horror movies, you would never want to watch this movie. Yeah, But if you if you like Frankenstein, especially if you read the first book, yeah, or if you've just seen most of the Frankenstein movies, this one is one that would totally be worth your rental. I if I could see the movie in HD, if I can see a real transfer, I might have been confident enough to say by it, but I haven't. So I don't know because I I hate this because it makes me sound snobby, But like, there have been so many movies that a true basically anything not ourgento that that that when I get a true, beautiful HD or four K of it, it elevates it because you really get to see the detail and the quality of the work. And because it's insane. Guys. As a lifelong film lover who's made my living in the film business for a decade, which is insane to say it's a decade. As of the day recording this, it is. But as with all those those qualifiers, I can for under two thousand dollars have a projector and a surround sound system, not a full blown Dolby blah blah blah, yeah, but a projector in a sound system and then put on Blu rays and it's as good as having a thirty five millimeter screening room in your house was twenty thirty forty years ago. That's I mean, because I have this one hundred and twenty in screen. It's what we watch almost everything on. And I mean half the time. If you get a movie you're excited to get on Blu Ray. You don't even bother watching it at home. You're just like, we're we gonna put it on the big screen because it is. It's a different experience. It really feels like I have an old Hollywood screensolutely does. So. I would love to get a chance to watch this film beyond home video. I would love to. I would love to see, whether it's by getting a Blu Ray or getting to see a screening getting over it. I'm sure there's well, I'm sure there's got to be a print out there somewhere. It's somebody owns. But anyway, those are my thoughts. What about you, Dave? So it's a rented for me as well. It just doesn't have enough strength as a buy it because it's one of those films that it's the mixture of the sci fi and the period piece is really really cool. But I think that is for a special niche of people that are that are going to be into that special needs niche need. But John Hurt and Raw Julia just going back and forth is a reason alone to watch. But even Jason Patrick for the little he's in it, and Bridget fond It for the little she's in it, are still really everybody is really good in this. Yeah, absolutely, and you could tell that they put time into the performances and it goes places at the end that, like you said, like if it had been when you have that Roger Corman notoriety with it, you expect that low budget feel to it. Even with the crazy ass science lab at the end and the reveal of all that, it doesn't take you out of the movie because it's just like, Wow, they actually really did think about this for even the building of the novel and whatnot. Like That's why I'm curious to see what how much it relates back to it because there's an hour and twenty minute video on YouTube comparing the two. Really yeah, oh I want to watch that video. Yeah so, but no, I think Frankston Unbound it's it has not been seen by so many eyes because of just its availability, but it is one that if you're a Round Julia fan, if you're a John Hurt fan, if you're a Frankenstein fan, or even just want to watch something that you probably have neither never seen nor heard of from Corman, this is the one to go with. I would agree with. I would agree with that absolutely, man. I think it's I think it's a lot of fun. So that is Frankenson Unbound. And as we always like to do, we'd like to wrap up with a couple of recommendations. I have two for this. One nineteen ninety four Kenneth Brana's Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, The Story of Frankenstein that did the nineties with I think's Kenneth Brona. De Niro plays the monster. John Cleese is in it. I have not seen that movie in a lot. I'm due for a rewatch on that me too, definitely. And the second one is one that I discovered a couple of years ago that I cannot get enough of Time after Time from nineteen seventy nine, Wells pursues Jack the Ripper to the twentieth century, where when the serial killer is using the future writer's time machine to escape time period. You have David Warner who plays Jack the Ripper, macl mcdowoo plays HD Wells, Mary Steinberger who plays the chick that he falls for. It's a lot of fun Well and Mine because you take all the good ones. Oh, you go first mine. I'm trying to make sure I get the title right because I've only seen it a few times, but I did really like it. It would probably be Larry Fesden's film, Oh, Depraved, Depraved. That's I kept thinking it was depravity, which is not the right to depraved Depraved. I think while like very similar to this one. It has great concepts, It's flawed, but it's totally worth watching. It absolutely is so depraved. Would be my pick to double feature This bad Boy with. And if you all have any Frankenstein movies that you feel are underappreciated, let them let us know in the comments, let us know via email, because Frankenstein movies are a lot of fun. They can be hit or missed, but they're still fun to enjoy for the most part. I mean, you know, at the very least you can enjoy pieces of the pieces. Indeed, so you want to know what we're talking about next week, absolutely not. So we are continuing, of course, Roger Corman Tribute month and going back to his producing with nineteen eighty two's The Slumber Party Massacres And that was my pick. Yes, it was one of my all time favorite films and one of my all time favorite Roger Korman eighties producing productions. And there's so much to talk about on that one. Don't be surprised if that's a long episode for a short film, because I have watched every documentary. I'm gonna rewatch some of them. Yeah, I cannot wait to sit down and talk about Slumber Party Massacre. 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