Ravenous (1999) Guy Pearce, Robert Carlyle, & Neal McDonough

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Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy
and co host Double D David Denier,

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and tonight, tonight, we are
talking about a film that I had

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the trailer etched in my brain my
entire childhood because the trailer was pretty scary,

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but also it was just ad nauseum
at the theater. It was on

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tapes that we were renting at the
time, and that is what you did.

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This come out with nineteen ninety nine
ravenous and it's I would call it

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a gem, an unrated or unrated
say I'm doing your thing now, I

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stole your gig. Dave one of
our buddies, by the way, are

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our bunny? Patrick asked about last
week's show. Just thought it was like,

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did Dave have a seizure or something, because you just started to say

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like he was a real heart drop
of of what I was. No,

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no, no, but no,
this one was definitely underrated. And I

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think we're going to really notice that. I don't remember the exact numbers of

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the box office, but when we
get there, I know that it was.

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I know that it was painful,
very painful, very painful. So

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and we do want to mention this
film features many acts of cannibalism. Yes,

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And and you know the funny thing
is, I mean it seems like

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mainstream media, like a movie's,
TV shows whatever, kind of do like

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a little bit of cannibal then a
little then they kind of run away for

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a while, but whenever they come
back to cannibalism, they always go all

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the way, because like, I
feel like, there was no mainstream media

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of cannibalism for years and years,
and then we got Hannibal the TV series.

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We both watched the whole thing,
right, you see the whole thing

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multiple times? Man, you've watched
it multiple times. I mean it's a

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long series. Three seasons. Well, season two is the best, in

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my opinion. Season season three they
were told they could do whatever they want

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because they were getting canceled, which
was fun, but there were whole episodes

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where it took me until like the
last three minutes to know what was going

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to find out what was going on, or to figure out how it related

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to anything. Wasn't there a whole
one on a train and I was completely

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I was trying too. That's the
worst part. That's what made me frustrating.

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It wasn't that they were doing weird
artistic stuff. What pissed me off

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was that I was actively watching and
still confused. That was why I was

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mad, like, hey, where's
maar? You know? Yeah? No,

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I was sitting there going like,
wow, I love what they're what

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so but we we we talked about
you and I were watching some of the

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other trailers, and boy did they
try a few different ways to market Rabbitable.

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But that first trailer that I showed
you right before we started, that

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one was the one I always saw
and it made the movie look really scary,

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which it is scary, but it's
it's This film has a very interesting

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tone. Tone is the perfect word. Yeah, a very different tone,

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and every time I watch it,
I forget that. The film itself,

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especially in the first two acts,
has quite a sense of humor of itself.

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Very black comedy. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely very very like,

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uh, dark and creepy, but
funny, like there are these little gags

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to it. Yeah, I mean
the fact that the opening scene is,

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after these guys looking at stakes,
the main character steps, he runs off,

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vomits, and then literally as soon
as the puke leaves his mouth,

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Ravenus comes up on the screen.
I love that. But what an interesting

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choice. And that's something that I
said, I really do think once the

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third act kicks in the movie,
and we'll talk about it in detail,

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but yeah, it kind of eases
off of being completely out of its mind

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as far as its presentation style.
But that that first act and second act,

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there are just these little choices that
they made. Yeah, absolutely,

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but I can't say that they hurt
the film because I'd forget them because they

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don't fit the tone I remember.
But they make the film very memorable well.

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And I think going back to the
trailers again, I think the key

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to understanding Ravenous is that it is
it's a it's a horror Western, but

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like in the like tonal shift of
From Dust Till Dawn in a little bit,

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because it's like you kind of start
out with a paranoia story. No,

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that's well, I mean, I
think it's hard head no, but

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it is a pretty hard shift because
they go out and the woods and basically

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everything changes after they go into the
woods. Which is something that even I

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kind of forget, is that you
meet your cast of characters then lose almost

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all of them before the second act
even starts. So I would kind of

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agree that in a way, From
Dust Till Dawn is in there, the

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only difference being that they make it
very clear and Ravenous pretty early on that

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you're getting a cannibal story as to
wear it. From dust Till Dawn they

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like desperately want you did not know
about the vampires. It's not right in

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the middle. I'm almost certain Now
I could be wrong, but I doubt

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it. It's at least I want
to say, at least forty minutes of

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that movie for the Switch of the
Vampires. But we're not here to talk

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about from Dust no, no,
So before we get into it, one

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small thing I want to say is
just a humongous thank you. Got a

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lot of really nice comments about about
when I talked about Chicano's passing my rescue

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dog, Chicano. I just want
to say thanks, Thank you guys for

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commenting, whether it was commenting on
the show or sending in a message on

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socials or whatever. Just thank you. I really appreciate it, so appreciate

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it. And on that note,
I have something in my eye and uh

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no, I oh wow, I
didn't even so. I didn't even think

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that that was me being cute.
No, I literally, like, literally

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something out of my eye. I
hope you noticed that my tone changed to

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very annoyed. Yeah, I wasn't
like, oh no, no, I

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mean literally something through my eye was
really making me mad. But so we're

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gonna dive headfirst into ravenous. But
before we do, before we dive into

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it, I want to ask you, Dave yes, sir, when it

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comes to cannibalism in movies and television, what was if you can remember,

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what was your first exposure to cannibalism
in the movies, Because I gotta tell

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you right now, Davey, I'm
sure I've told you this before. Cannibalism

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is a is a taboo in movies
that actually gets to me quite a bit.

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Yeah, there something I cannot stand
about the idea of a person being

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reduced to just meat meat. It
really bothers me. That's why Hannibal got

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to me so badly because in Hannibal, they would like shoot it like it

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was the Food Network. Yeah,
but they would be like, see this

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meat, it's a person. And
then it would be gorgeously seasoned and beautifully

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arranged and fried and you know,
oat milk and butter and all this shit,

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and that would like really make me
want a puke. Yeah. If

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anything made me closer to trying being
a vegan, which I did do it

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shortly after it was, it was
actually Hannibal. Because Hannibal made me like

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sick to my stomach. So my
question to you is, what was the

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first experience with cannibalism and media that
you can recaller that really stuck with you

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or what have you. So there's
two that come to mind right off the

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bat is my mom was watching Silence
of the Lambs on TV when I was

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a young kid. Yeah, that's
a good one. And it was the

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scene where he displays displays the moth
that ever or the butterfuly, I can't

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remember what it is, but anyway, he kills the two guards, and

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I remember just him lunging at Charles
Napier's face and that was, oh,

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yeah, bit his nose, yeah, which is one of the few times

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in that film that Hannibal Lecter is
just a friggin monster cannibal creature. No,

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absolutely. And the other instance is
in my junior high library, we

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had a book on horror films that
went up to, I want to say

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about the nineties. I was actually
talking to our good buddy Birdman about this

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on an episode that we recorded a
week or so back, and it was

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up to the nineties. So you
had everything in there from like the early

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twenties, thirties and up and the
seventies. They did a piece on raw

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Meat aka Deadline, the Gary Sherman
cannibal film. They had a shot of

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one of the Campibell eyes like eating
corpses in it, and I remember just

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like looking at the eye and like
the teeth parks and everything, and I

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was like, that's so fucked up. So like those two that are that

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I can recall. The one that
probably stuck with me the most out of

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any of them was there is a
scene in Oh my god, what movie

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is it now? I'm blanking uh
baby Geniuses too. There's a scene in

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Cannibal and Cannibal the Musical, the
Trademarker the bass, Yeah, based on

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Out for Packer, the scene the
opening scene where he is just taking apart

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those corpses and like eating their faces. Like, yeah, it's always stuck

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with me because I'm just like that
is them shooting for the fences right off

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the bat. Yeah, they weren't. They weren't screwing around. No.

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I love Cannibal Musical. So okay, those are interesting and and and fascinatingly

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enough, none of my answer,
oh I'm all your you. You did

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not tackle a single one of mine. So my number one cannibal experience now,

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and I'm not going to count zombie
movies and stuff, because zombies are

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not people. They're zombies, but
as a cannibalism represents an into a an

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inside species act. These things cannot
be considered human. Therefore, it is

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not an act of cannibalism. To
quote Donna the Dead, but yes,

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you are my numero uno and you're
gonna go. Uh was Texas Chaninseeil massacre?

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Oh, that was the one that
like I was like whoa, And

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I remember being really freaked out by
the concept of cannibalism. But it was

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played Now, I was played down
a little bit in the way that like

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you you know, basically right at
the end, when they like cut her

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finger and let Grandpa suck on it, or and when they're trying to bash

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her head in and when they show
the barbecue hooks, those are like the

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only moments that really settle in this
idea that these kids are not just being

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killed, they're being slaughtered, and
they're being slaughtered in food. Now,

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I remember when she rushes into the
room and you just see the lamp shades

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and all the feathers and thing like
that is really chilling me, even very

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chilling. But even that doesn't necessarily
scream cannibalism. It doesn't, see what

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I mean, Like I say,
that's why it's like in that last twenty

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minutes is when you start to go
But I'll tell you and this is gonna

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you're again. You're gonna be like, WHOA, I'll tell you what My

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numeral uno of of of child,
childhood, Horror of Cannibalism. The Parents,

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Yeah, that was on cableh and
I saw that when I was probably

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ten or eleven, and the idea
for those who don't know, Parents is

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a film starring Randy Quaid and I
forget who played the mom in it,

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but Parents. It's a really strange
black comedy movie where cannibalism is I would

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say, not even loosely a.
It's symbolic for sex. Yeah, the

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idea of sex and the idea of
how children view sex, because children see

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sex is just a taboo, a
taboo that they're not supposed to have any

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part in, but that adults are
constantly having a pardon. And that's why

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there's this whole scene in the movie
where the parents are like, you think

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they're like making out, but then
it reveals they're eating meat together and he's

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freaked out by it. But that's
what when I was like, wow,

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yeah, this is a metaphor about
the forbiddenness of sex when you're a kid,

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and how it is kind of startling
the idea that your parents are having

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Well YEA love watching about realization when
I was sitting next to you or your

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watching that blue ray. Yeah,
no, I mean that was when I

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realized that it was barely subtext,
that it was very clearly intentioned. But

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so I remember watching that film on
some cable channel pri TBS or TNT and

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being mortified. Mortified is the perfect
word, literally mortified, because it's not

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just a movie about cannibalism. It's
a movie about your own parents turning on

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you. Yeah, and and and
that's terrifying because it's you know, another

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movie that brings those vibes really well, Toby Hooper's Invaders from Mart has that

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whole concept like your parents are coming
to get you enough, and yeah,

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to an extent, I agree,
But I feel like those two films like

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play that fear up so much because
it's like that they're supposed to take care

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of you, and you're so vulnerable
if your parents don't want to take care

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of you. So anyway, those
were my big initial cannibal movie. I

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did think of one more, which
kind of relates back to what we're going

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to talk about. Was Nicholson' speech
about Thedaughterer party in the Shining. Oh

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man, I see the Shining is
seventeen days long, so I forget most

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of it. But no, that's
a good Now I want. I actually

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am in the mood to watch the
Shining gets good. Uh. I like

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the mini series more. I know, I don't care what people think.

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Mini series is getting rereleased by the
way I heard it put in proper aspect,

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right, Yeah, yeah, but
I like the mini series. But

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there's just something great about Kuber's version. But I will say I really love

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Doctor Sleep. I've probably seen Doctor
Sleep at least like four times in the

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last couple of years. I've watched
it twice since it came out. I

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liked it both Love Sleep. I
watched once in the theater and then I

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watched once the director's writ cut.
Yeah yeah, and I liked it.

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I liked it quite a bit.
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be right back. Welcome back to
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mentions in cannibals. I was very
young when I first saw my How old

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were you when you saw your first
Italian cannibal movie? I had to have

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been at least fifteen or sixteen.
Really, yeah, that young. Yeah,

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because at that point I was able
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because I could get them from FYE
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was higher because they were on DVD. Yeh. Cannibal Holocaust was the first

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one I think that we ever watched. My first cannibal movie was probably slaved

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to the Cannibal God because that was
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it was considered so it was on
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literally my friend and mentor, Andy
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Cannibal Fairroks because he had had a
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cannibal movies until I was sixteen seventeen. But it was really hard to get

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them. Yeah, there was no
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in the day, was like,
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It was Cannibal Ferox and his own
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me watch it close. Second though, was Zombie Holocaust Doctor Put Your MD,

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which is almost a cannibal movie,
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fifteen. But even those cannibal movies, for as nasty and mean spirited as

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they can be, and we really
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they're so freaking gonzo that you almost
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Like it's just so it's just so
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pulling at them, and then their
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Jones story built around it, So
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our favorite things. As we mentioned
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at do you even movie? It's
a Christmas picture. So I just wanted

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to digress a little bit about cannibalism
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mean, I openly admit horror movies
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because I love being scared. Yeah, I know that because I go to

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haunted houses with you, and it's
the fucking best when you get harassed.

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I can't I react the way I
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Start calling your name, which has
only happened like one time that I

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can recall, when somebody got your
name in the in the scare line and

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it just worked its way through all
the rooms we went through. Yeah.

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Yeah, I don't know how they
figured out it was my name, and

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I don't know how they figured out, uh how they heard it in a

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jumble of names similar to it.
Crazy but yeah, yeah, crazy bro,

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But uh no, I like to
be scared. I like scary movies

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for that reason. And a lot
of times people will make the assumption of

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me that I They'll they'll be like, you must be pretty used to it,

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you must be pretty callous to it, And I'm like, no,

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man, That's why I keep watching
them is I'm very easy to scare,

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and I like to be scared by
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obviously, but I love to be
scared and freaked out. But of all

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of the tropes, cannibalism really is
the one that, like, every time

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I see it, it creeps me
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movie, if it does cannibalism a
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I'll give you an example. George
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Volume one. Do you remember that
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the splunking one. I was thinking
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I remember that one. And when
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out and then she remembers eating her
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they depicted the cannibalism was they like
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husk that like has no humanity to
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twenty something year old watching look,
I love George Romero. Yeah, as

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a flawed human being, and I
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movies ever made, absolutely, but
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there was a period where he sure
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Dead Time Stories either they had you
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with and they were trying their best. But when George sits down to be

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like the crypt keeper of it,
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He's literally wearing an outdoors jacket and
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on to the next one. It
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being written in the background, and
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and uh. But even that one
really messed with so Freddy's nightmares, you

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know, for Freddy's nightmares fans.
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yeah, I can't think of it. Oh shit, what was that

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episode? There were two Cannibal episodes. Now, I can't think prime cut,

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prime cut, prime cut. Now
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that bothered me quite a bit.
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and with a laugh, yes,
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you know what movie. So,
without further ado, after a little talk

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about cannibalism, let's get into nineteen
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D one hour and forty one minutes, rated R for a considerable considerable amount

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of gore. Where does it hang
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The rating killed me. It was, Oh, I hate that IMD

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readed their site for potential buttocks display
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could have went way grosser. Overall, it's mostly blood splashes and there's like

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one or two severed limbs. There
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I read relating to its censorship was
there were minor cuts made to get it

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to an R rating, So it
probably had like an NC seventeen or an

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exit first submission, but they probably
you know, chopped like two or three

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seconds out of it. I would
imagine. Yeah, I mean, I

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just know that there really isn't that
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to like your average Western or something. There's a few moments where you kind

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of see somebody's guts, yeah,
entergy, and that's really it. Yeah.

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Yeah. So Rabbitus one hour forty
one minutes, rated R, directed

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by Antonio Bird. She did The
east Enders in nineteen eighty five, Casualty

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in nineteen eighty six, South of
the Border nineteen eighty eight, The Men's

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Room in ninety one, A masculine
ending in ninety two, Peak Practice Priest,

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Mad Love Face, Ravetus in ninety
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in two thousand and three, Mission
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two thousand and five. That's quite
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her films in two thousand and six, which got a series in six as

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well, A Passionate Woman in twenty
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night shamal on one. Oh.
But she unfortunately had a career cut short

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in twenty thirteen by thyroid cancer.
Died it age sixty two. Wow.

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That's quite a career though, cause
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don't think I saw any of those
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talk about like consistently working and clearly
Ravenus didn't kill her career, which I'm

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happy to hear, because while it
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think it was a very solid movie, and I think that it did.

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It was a very effective film,
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and very smartly directed. So I'm
glad to hear that she got quite a

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bit going on though, and I'll
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the trivia. But Robert Carlisle,
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he was. He was very good
friends with her, and he actually

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got her the gig on Ravenus because
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Oh really, do you know who
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his name in the notes. It's
Mitch something. Milcho Mincheeski is his name,

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Milcho menches Menchevsky, Chevski, Yeah, what the heck? Yeah,

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he was fired after two to three
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No, didn't even bother to figure
out what he was doing. He wasn't

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mentioned anywhere except that she. I
mean, okay, this is our research

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first stop. We got plenty to
talk about. So our writer is Ted

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Griffin. He was the writer of
Ravenus of course, goes on to do

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Best Plans in ninety nine, does
the screenplay for Oceans eleven two thousand and

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one, match stick Men two thousand
and three, Rumor Has It in two

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thousand and five, The Shield in
two thousand and six, Killers twenty ten.

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He was the creator of the series
Terriers in two thousand serious. I

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am dead serious. I love that
series. F series Terriers, and I

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am still upset livid we didn't get
a second season. I know, because

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it was so good, it ended
so well, with so much more to

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give us. Yeah, I know. Terriers is very well missed and only

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and it's never been released on physical. You can only get it through I

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think Amazon is the only way to
get it. Yeah, I think so,

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something like somewhere like that. Yeah, No, I'm ticked so.

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Ted Griffin also did the screenplay for
Tower Heights in twenty eleven. He's edited

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for script revisions on Runaway Jury in
two thousand three, Torq in two thousand

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and four, Mister and Missus Smith
and O five Fun with Dick and Jane

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and O five Night and Day in
twenty ten, and Wolf of Wall Street

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in twenty thirteen, whoa Okay also
the director of Terriers, Mad Dogs and

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Patriot. He directed episodes of Terriers, Mad Dogs and Patriot. Yes,

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those are literally three of my favorite
shows I know, and they're not just

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three of my favorite I actually feel
bad for him because I'm like, those

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are three of my favorite shows that
all did relatively badly. Yeah, but

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Patriot I consider one of the best
television shows ever made. Yeah, uh,

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the Amazon original Patriot. Like most
people be like, what, it's

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one of the best shows ever made. No, it's a big deal.

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Matt mad Dogs Crazy also one that
you you had me watch. You texted

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me and you're like, dude,
you need to watch the show. We

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only got one season of it,
which was perfect. It did end on

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on a pretty solid name. It
ended well, but it could have gotten

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a second season. It was so
freaking good so mad Dogs and it opened

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with Billy Zane, an incredibly fun
character. Mad Dogs on Amazon Prime highly

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recommended that one. So. Our
cinematographer is Anthony B. Richmond. He

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was a claploader on from Rush with
Love in nineteen sixty three, The Devilship

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Pirates in sixty four, The Evil
of Frankenstein in nineteen sixty four as well,

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he's the clapper loader on these phones. Well, I mean it goes

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to show you everybody starts somewhat.
The Gorgone in sixty four, Doctor Zevago

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sixty five, Funny Thing Happened on
the Way to the Forum in sixty six.

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He becomes a cinematographer in sixty nine
with ITV Saturday Night Theater. He

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does Let It Be The Beatles film
in nineteen seventy. Okay, wow,

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don't look now, The Donald Sutherland
thriller in nineteen seventy three. Damn okay,

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I could see a trajectory. Yeah, already starting here. Then he

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goes on to do Old Dracula in
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Earth of David Bowie film in seventy
six, The Eagle Was Landed in seventy

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six as well, The Kids Are
all Right in nineteen seventy nine, The

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Who film Nightfall, That's Life,
The In Crowd, Sunset of Blake Edwards

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movie Scissors ninety one, The Indian
Runner ninety one, Candyman in ninety two.

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sand the same DP that did Candyman
and Ravenous. Yeah, did Sandlot Tales

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from the Hood in nineteen ninety five. Really First Kid in nineteen ninety six,

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the Sinbad movie. I don't talk
to me like you need to tell

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me what First Kid is, your
little shit, I'm telling you what First

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Kid was. I was always partial
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watched First Kid, House Guest is
great. Actually, I last time I

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watched First Kid, girl I was
dating at the time, had horrible stomach

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flu and I I just remember I
watched it while I waited for Chinese food

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to come, while she was in
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First Kid's really fun. Gets better
Playing God in ninety seven, the David

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Ducoveney film, which I watched a
while back, and I didn't hold up

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as well, but still fun crime
thiller. So then he was Ravenous in

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ninety nine, Cherry Falls in ninety
nine, Okay, Men of Honor in

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two thousand, Legally Blonde two thousand
and one, Shade Of two thousand and

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three, the Sylvester Stallone poker movie
I Showed You with Gabriel Burne. I

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love Shade shit, it's really good. Cinderella Story two thousand and four,

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Just Friends two thousand and five,
and The Months two thousand and six,

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Miss March two thousand and nine,
Alvin and the Chipmunks, The Squeakwool in

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Oh nine, thank god, finally
a classic. And he does three Diary

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the Whimpi Kids movies. And he
also just did the Beatles Get Back the

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Peter Jackson or Yeah, Peter Jackson
Disney plus beatlespot. I love the Diary

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of a Whimpi Kid movies too.
Wow, these are some great ones.

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So Anthony D. Richmond, we
salute you because that's a hell of a

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resume. Brother. I mean,
that's something we mentioned here on the show

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is cinematographers. You just every film
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but every film needs somebody to shoot
it. Cinematographers get around. Never assume

403
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.480
you know where a cinematographer came from
or where they're going. Yeah, because

404
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.240
there are so many stories where I
mean, he was a claploader on what

405
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.319
was one of the like from Russia
with Love No No, But I'm talking

406
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:47.759
about like the Devilship Pirates yea,
and the Evil of Frankenstock the Gorgan.

407
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:51.400
All of those are perfectly fine movies, and if you love them, that's

408
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:56.160
fine. Yeah, but they're all
like he was just the clapload. Yeah,

409
00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.440
and then he went on to be
clearly assought after cinematographer. I would

410
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.880
say, so, who shot literally
multiple movies that were formative for me that

411
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:10.880
were nothing alike? No, either
way, none, it's Ravenous, Sandlot,

412
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:12.880
what was the other Handy Man,
Candy Man. It's like all of

413
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:17.640
those movies were formative to me as
a kid for completely different reasons. Yes,

414
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.599
no, so yeah, for real, that is an incredible story of

415
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.720
a cinematographer right there. So getting
into the story of Ravenous. This is

416
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.599
from the back of the screen factory, Blu Ray says, a recipe for

417
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.000
NonStop action and excitement when the inhabitants
of an isolated military outposts go up against

418
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:34.039
a marauding band of cannibals and a
deadly struggle for survival. Ever, watchful

419
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.319
of the enemies who might literally tear
them apart, the uneasy alliance of soldiers

420
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.119
must fight brutal elements of this Sierra
in Ota wilderness and as well as their

421
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:47.680
own murderous instincts to stay alive.
Okay, it's not correct at all.

422
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:55.279
There are problems. Yeah, so
first of all, that description sounds like

423
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:59.720
the description you would give because you
know that the person you want to watch

424
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.759
it not under like you couldn't get
across what actually happens in the movie,

425
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.240
Like like you're just trying to get
them to watch it. He's like,

426
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:07.680
no, no, you'll like it
if you watch it. But like,

427
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.599
because it's not that, it's not
that. I mean, I could see

428
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:17.839
interpreting it as that, but it's
not an army fighting. It's it's in

429
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:22.880
fighting, and it's it's and of
course the cannibalist cannibal element is such a

430
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.279
massive part of the movie and the
whole concept of the Windigo and all the

431
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.160
stuff, which we'll get into in
a little bit. Ye. But yeah,

432
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.960
so that's a bizarre breakdown. It
just sounds like they're trying to hard

433
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:38.920
sell somebody who does not want to
watch at all. So you is your

434
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:48.440
synopsis just he was licking, because
that's what we all from my generation,

435
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.799
that's what we remember. The scene
where the guy yells he was lacking may

436
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:57.359
so but anyway, sorry, so
I want toopsis the inhabitants of military outposts

437
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.720
for Spencer have more than winter weather
to be concerned about. When a sadistic

438
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:07.559
cannibal infiltrates one night with plans to
never go hungry again. Okay, points

439
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:12.160
for clever, points for clever,
But hold on, but what was that

440
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:19.400
first sentence the inhabitants of a military
outpost for Spencer have. That's you being

441
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:25.359
cheeky. That's you being a little
bit of a ship like. No,

442
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:27.640
they have more than they have,
more than winter weather to worry about.

443
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:32.960
They're being infected by a blight that
makes them meet each other. But but

444
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.160
I have to, I have to
give it to you on the when a

445
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.640
sadistic cannibal infiltrates one night with plans
to never go hungry again. Yeah,

446
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:47.119
that was that was Oh no,
that was good. That was good,

447
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:51.759
little cheeky though I might not allow
that next time, but that no,

448
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:56.000
that was good. Dave, good
job. Do You Even? Movie?

449
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:11.400
Will be right back. Welcome back
to Do You Even movie? So wrapping

450
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.559
us up as our cast, we
have Guy Pierce who plays Captain John boyd

451
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.480
ninety credits on his resume. Guy
Pierce is one of those names that,

452
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.039
like I know of him because of
movies that I love him in. But

453
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:22.599
for the most part, you really
don't see him doing much except for like

454
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.960
the last ten years. I would
say he's kind of popped up, like

455
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.039
in black Light, that Lamson movie. No, he's, yeah, he's

456
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.079
I think he's definitely a workhorse.
Yeah, So ninety credits on his resume.

457
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:33.559
Heaven Tonight was his first one in
nineteen eighty nine. He did Home

458
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:37.400
and Away in ninety one, The
Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert

459
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.000
in ninety four, Dating the Enemy
in ninety six, does Elle Confidential on

460
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.240
nineteen ninety seven, which, dear
listener, if you have not seen Ellie

461
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:47.119
Confidential, I just shout it to
Enrica. I just saw it recently.

462
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.200
Yeah, and I really liked it. Yes, and shout out to our

463
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.400
buddy Maurice and shout out to Specks
McGee. Uh. That is an inside

464
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:57.880
joke. Move along with your lives. So The Devil Game in ninety seven,

465
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:00.759
Ravenous in ninety nine, and then
does Rules of Engagement in two thousand,

466
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:05.039
Memento in two thousand, Count of
Monte Cristo O two, the Time

467
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.359
Machine in two thousand and two,
Two Brothers in four does the Proposition,

468
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.920
which is a really good dark western
he did with Nick Cave and the guy

469
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.799
that plays the head vampire in Thirty
Days and Night. I can't think of

470
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:17.759
his name, but really really good
movie Factory Girl in two thousand and six.

471
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:22.759
He portrays Warhol, he doesn't Andy
Warhol and oh okay, really well,

472
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.759
oh wow, I would like to
see that, Yeah, Trader two

473
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.839
thousand and eight, The hurt Locker
Ina the Road, the King speech,

474
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:34.000
don't be afraid of the dark,
seeking justice, Lockout, Prometheus, Lawless,

475
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.839
Iron Man three, The Rover equals
Brimstone, spinning Man a Christmas Carol

476
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:42.240
from twenty nineteen, Bloodshot in twenty
twenty, and then Memory in twenty two

477
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.160
two. So one black Live is
Memory. Oh okay, those dude confused

478
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.880
because they came out the same time, because David is a lazy researcher.

479
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.640
I just remember Memory was better than
black Light. Wow, Hard you were

480
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:57.519
with me and we both agreed on
that. Wait what was what was memory?

481
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.480
Memory was where he's the assassin that
loses his memory. Oh yeah,

482
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.480
and black Light's where one of his
buddies gets taken out. So he decides

483
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.279
to go back into Cia. If
I remember correctly. Yeah, I like

484
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.319
black light actually kind of more.
Wait maybe it was black light. I

485
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.119
don't know, Maybe I like black
light more than so. Then Robert Carlile

486
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.880
is our second lead. He plays
Colonel Ives as well as Calhoun in this.

487
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.799
He was in Arena in nineteen seventy
five, Taggert in ninety Riffraff in

488
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.039
ninety one, does The Advocates in
ninety two, Being Human in ninety four,

489
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.559
does Priests where he meets Antonio Bird
in ninety four, as well Cracker

490
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.480
in ninety four, another one of
her films, Trainspotting in ninety six,

491
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.759
Carlo Song in ninety six, The
Full Monty in ninety seven, probably one

492
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:36.519
of his most known movies. Next
to this, disappearance on the series of

493
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:37.480
A Once By a Time, which
we'll get to in a second, Does

494
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.759
the world' zignen Up in ninety nine, Angela's Ashes the Beach to end All

495
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.039
Wars Formula fifty one, Hitler,
The Rise of Evil in two thousand and

496
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.720
three, The Mighty celt Aragon twenty
eight weeks later, Redemption The Tournament which

497
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.720
I need to show you the Tournament
because it's literally about a small town that

498
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.359
becomes a location for this game of
assassins that like big heads are bidding on

499
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.960
there's money, and Carlisle plays a
pre to sworn off violence. That sounds

500
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.599
fun to me. Yeah, that
sounds like good time. Yeah. Start

501
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.039
at Universe No. Nine, Once
Upon a Time in twenty eleven, Train

502
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.079
Spotting two in twenty seventeen, Yesterday, and Cobra in twenty twenty. Robert

503
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.159
Carlisle is one of those faces that
like you've seen him in things, but

504
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.000
you don't know what it is,
precisely because his resume is a bit all

505
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:20.639
over the place. I mean,
hey, there are worse things to be

506
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.800
then everywhere. And wrapping us up
is Neil McDonough. He plays Private Reich

507
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:27.400
in this one hundred and thirty six
credits on his resume. By the way,

508
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:31.360
wait wait your third person is is
Neil McDonough. Yeah? What No

509
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:35.440
no love for Jeffrey Jones. I
didn't give Jeffrey Jones. Jeffrey Jones to

510
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.760
this. We'll get to him.
What, Dave, Why why don't you

511
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:42.000
want to talk about how great Jeffrey
Jones is? So he does Dark Man

512
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.920
in nineteen ninety What no love for
Jeffrey Jones? I love Jeffrey Jones.

513
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.519
But oh you do. But I
love Jeffrey Jones work. Oh really,

514
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:54.760
can we get move on? Jeffrey
Jones has allegations, you can find out.

515
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:59.400
Yeah, moving on. It's not
like this is gonna be the first

516
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.880
time something he has allegation. Yeah. Look at Dave, he's the clem.

517
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.920
He's like completely vetched. Now.
I don't know why I'm all Yiddish

518
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.800
either, but look at David.
Fix your hat. Oh we worry about

519
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.199
you, bully Bill. Why don't
you take a drink and I'll tell a

520
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.079
joke to the audience. Let me
tell you why the first time David told

521
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:21.280
me he was hiding Jeffrey Jones in
his home from the authority. Funny.

522
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.840
No, it's all right, Dave. I'm sorry, Dave. Was the

523
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:30.760
amount of Jeffrey Jones jokes I made
during the actual film that we were watching

524
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.880
is not wrong. I knew that
Dave was just what he was. And

525
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.679
the reason Dave was flinching is he
was just afraid I was gonna throw like

526
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:40.920
a really mean one at him.
I'm trying not to do that to you

527
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:46.280
on this show. Appreciate that.
Starting with dark Man in nineteen ninety He

528
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:50.639
plays a doc worker in Dark Man, Quantum Leap in ninety one, Crueled

529
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:52.280
Out in ninety two, in the
Line of Duty, Ambush, and Waco,

530
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:57.840
which I actually just watched today.
Really, yeah, that was the

531
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.079
one I was sending you got screen
grabs of when mconna's hey. Oh yes,

532
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:05.519
yes, young and weird looking.
He does duck Man in ninety four,

533
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.920
Angels and the Outfield ninety four,
Jag in ninety five, Three Wishes,

534
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:13.719
One Man's Justice in ninety six,
The Ultimate bro movie of us.

535
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.920
You ever wanted to see mc hammer
suffocated guy with a bag, One Man's

536
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.639
Justice or just hang out outside in
East LA That is true too. Yes,

537
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:24.880
Star Trek First Contact in ninety six, Fire Down Below ninety seven,

538
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:29.400
does the incredible Hault Cartoon in ninety
seven, Rabbitus in ninety nine. Then

539
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.840
he does Balloon Farm, Martial Law, Band of Brothers, The X Files,

540
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:37.480
Minority Report, Timeline, Walking Tall
Remake, Medical Investigation, The Guardian,

541
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:38.920
Flags of Our Fathers, The Hitcher, I Know Who Killed Me,

542
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:43.840
Tin Man, Desperate Housewives, Terriers
which I forgot he was on Terriers until

543
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.880
I looked him up. Oh you
forgot that? Yeah? Oh, very

544
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:51.199
memorable Ontariers Little Birds in twenty eleven. Captain America twenty eleven justified one of

545
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.719
his best appearances in the last decade. I would agree, although it plays

546
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:58.679
to kind of his type cast,
Yeah it does, But we have another

547
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.920
justified alumni in this cast. But
yeah, I think they're both worth mentioning.

548
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:07.000
Yeah. CSI read Two Bad Country
Arrow, Yellowstone Suits, The one

549
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.039
hundred American Horror Story, Evil Resident
Evil, Welcome to Raccoon City, The

550
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:14.679
Flash, the shit he wasn't welcome
to Raccoon City. The dude's resume doesn't

551
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:19.199
end. I mean he's a working
actor. Well, he's got a forehead

552
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.400
that just scares you. He's also
got a families, got feet. I

553
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.000
mean that helps too. He's also
a but I don't know if they're his

554
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:29.280
or if he abducted them by you
know, the characters he gets to play.

555
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:30.920
He's also a producer now too.
He's a He's producing a lot of

556
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.639
movies. One of his most famous
ones was a western he did recently restarted

557
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:39.400
in called Boone Boom g O n
Okay. So what was your first time

558
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:45.360
seeing ravenous? Oh gosh, it
would have been I guarantee I rented it

559
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.320
on VHS, because if it came
out in ninety nine, that means it

560
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:53.199
was on tape in two thousand and
In my household, I was the first

561
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:58.400
DVD player owner. Yeah I remember
your story. Oh yeah, I tell

562
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.159
it on the show. I can't
rab it. I don't think. Uh

563
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.760
yeah. I I come from humble
beginnings. My mother did a very good

564
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.960
job making sure we had what we
needed. And I was a huge movie

565
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:15.800
fan, so getting a DVD player
was not a priority. But because I

566
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.119
was such a big movie fan,
yeah, my mom was open to it,

567
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.800
you know, to getting me one. Eventually someday. Well, I

568
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:28.519
figured out a really good compromise.
I was like, what if we get

569
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.039
a DVD drive for my PC?
Because I had a PC in my room

570
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:35.000
that I did a bunch of you
know stuff on that. Like I'm like

571
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.519
thirteen or fourteen, I think maybe
a little younger, maybe a little older.

572
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.280
And I was like, what if
I get the herd of the drive,

573
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:45.199
because then for fifteen this is how
things work. Then if I have

574
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:51.599
the drive for fifteen dollars dollars,
I can get a DVD player Because you

575
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.320
had to. You couldn't just have
the driver the drive, you had to

576
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:58.519
have a player. Yeah. So
I got the player for Christmas, and

577
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.960
I got the drive for my birthday. And the first time I watched any

578
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:09.159
DVDs it was on my computer yep, not on my TV. I wouldn't

579
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:15.559
have a DVD player in my in
my bedroom or one in the living room

580
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:22.079
until about a year later when Christmas
finally hit with those Apex DVD players that

581
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.559
were like thirty six dollars. Yeah. So when we rented a movie for

582
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:29.440
family night especially, or you know, we just rented like a brand new

583
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.760
Blockbuster movie or whatever so that we
could all watch it together, all mom

584
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.639
and me and maybe my sister,
we'd always go tape. Yeah, because

585
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:38.800
we had a VCR in the living
room, makes sense. And I had

586
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.599
a VCR in my bedroom too,
so I didn't mind renting tapes. So

587
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.800
but yeah, I remember one of
the first big things I ever watched on

588
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:51.679
that computer was I watched all three
Sleepaway Camps because I was not I had

589
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:57.000
never seen them. Yeah, and
then Fangloria gave like crazy reviews to the

590
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:00.760
box set and it was only thirty
five bucks. Man, I remember that

591
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.400
box up. You don't remember it
coming out though, No, I don't,

592
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:06.480
but I remember that was a Hunted
four box because that just had the

593
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.599
Cross on it, the cross which
got banned, the Red Cross. Actually

594
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:15.440
yeah, but I just remember I
sat down and that was the best Saturday

595
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:16.639
ever because I watched the first sleep
Boy Camp and when it was over,

596
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:22.559
I was just like whoa. And
then I watched the other two and fell

597
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:24.280
in love with all three. Yeah. No, that would be the turning

598
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:28.280
point. So I never had a
life where I didn't I either didn't know

599
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.000
sleep Boy Camp or I had one, two, and three back to back.

600
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:32.840
What about four? Didn't? Didn't
fore get included in that one?

601
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:39.079
You mean the survivor? The survivor. We're not talking about return to sleep

602
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:40.840
Boy Camp. You know why we're
not talking about that? No, No,

603
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.960
I don't want to talk I returned
to sleep Boy Camp at all.

604
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.239
Good. I'm talking about the Survivor. Oh oh, you are talking about

605
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:51.679
It was just raw footage from a
sequel that never got filmed, which was

606
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:53.400
exclusive to Best Buy. Yes,
it was a sequel that never got completed.

607
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:59.119
They raised enough money to shoot like
three or four rolls of film in

608
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.679
one weekend, an actress and an
actor and that was it. It's so

609
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.400
yeah, and people were so confused. I remember being confused, even because

610
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.000
I was a young man, even
though I dreams of being a filmmaker,

611
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:13.079
I had not seen unedited footage from
film. So I was like, Okay,

612
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:17.320
I'm watching her walk silent through the
woods, and now a color flash

613
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:20.760
just happened. Now she's sitting on
a chair. Yep. Yeah, it

614
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:27.760
was bad. Well, the real
problem is some filmmakers, I was gonna

615
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.519
say audacious. I think that's a
good word. Some audacious filmmakers decided to

616
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:32.320
try to make a full movie out
of it. Yeah, but the problem

617
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:36.400
is when you edit together that that
forty five minutes of footage, it's really

618
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.599
like six minutes of movie. Yeah. So, uh, because didn't they

619
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:44.440
there is? It's that has other
clips and that's all. That's what it

620
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:46.400
is. It's a it's a whole
thing where they claim like that they have

621
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.360
the right to do it. Yeah
they don't really, but I don't know.

622
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:55.800
I'm not here to lawyer. I'm
here to eat. So go on,

623
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.639
Davy. So you were saying that
you rented this Yeah, yeah,

624
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.760
sorry, I forgot the question you
asked me. Yes, I rented it

625
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:09.000
on tape and watched it, and
my mom was super grossed out. She

626
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.519
kind of checked out of it.
I could see that she might have even

627
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.719
went off and did something else.
I can't remember for sure, but I

628
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.920
am my older sister, who was
much older than me. We both were

629
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.280
enamored with My sister really liked it, and I thought it was pretty cool.

630
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.800
But I was really super grossed out, and I found the ending showdowns

631
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.639
yeah, super scared, satisfying and
scared. So I don't know about satisfying.

632
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:31.719
I mean, I wasn't quite old
enough for that, and like you,

633
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.519
Davy, but what about you?
When did you foresee it? So?

634
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.760
I I think I mentioned on the
show before that I was a frequent

635
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:42.880
flea market shopper with my father on
Sundays, and in doing so, that's

636
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.079
how I kind of started getting my
VHS collection. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

637
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.519
we get it. You have a
fub Yeah, let's you shut up.

638
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.480
But so one of my tapes had
a trailer for Rabness on it,

639
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.440
which was that trailer I showed you, which has so cheap your Boogeyman by

640
00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.320
Rob ZOMBI. Yeah, what a
weird I get it, though, White

641
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:01.760
Zombie Actually I can appreciate. I
think it was White Zombie. Yeah,

642
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:05.760
I can't appreciate what they were going
for with the trailer because they were trying

643
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:07.840
to hit a different audience since it
didn't find its audience the first time.

644
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:09.840
Yeah, they were like, what
if we make this look just fun and

645
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:15.199
badass and weird. But boy,
is that a weird trailer. Keep in

646
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:20.119
mind that Disney's Planes, that movie, the original trailer. The score on

647
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.840
that trailer was more human than a
human. Oh yeah, I believe that.

648
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:27.519
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that they
were on Disney's record label. It

649
00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:30.400
wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, I'm
almost certain why Zombie was on Disney's record

650
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:35.039
That would make sense anyway. So
I saw trailer for Rabinous, and I

651
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.199
went to the flea markets so often. I was like, well, I'll

652
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.400
absolutely come into it soon, And
sure enough, got a copy of it,

653
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:44.559
watched it, and just immediately fell
in love with its zaniness and its

654
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.800
disgusting concept and all that stuff,
and just this was a movie that like

655
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.880
a fourteen year old would latch onto
and I did. I mean, I

656
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.159
get, I mean, I feel
like, maybe not the average fourteen year

657
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:58.760
old. It has some pretty heavy, heavy concepts. It does in the

658
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.760
trailer made it look more action that
it is. Okay, you can I

659
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:05.320
think you can admit this was it
because the guys in the movie were cool.

660
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.639
Oh yeah, Okay, I'm not
trying to pick on you with teenage

661
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:13.239
boys. Yeah, is like every
dude in that movie was like super cool

662
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:15.440
and like rugged and tough, and
to be perfectly honest, I think this

663
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.679
was probably the point in my life
that I had my VHS LA Confidential,

664
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.840
which I would watch, not even
understating, probably once a month, So

665
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.199
I was. I was into Guy
Pierce at that point too. So the

666
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.199
fact that he was in a horror
film, I was like, fuck yeah,

667
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:30.360
and how old were you again?
Fourteen? Fourteen? Yeah, so

668
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:36.679
probably a little old for Jeffrey Jones
to be happy you were watching there is

669
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:42.000
that. I'm so proud of myself. Okay, but no, I mean

670
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.360
this has become a winter favorite of
mine because it is snowy out the ass

671
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.800
and you have whoa, you just
have this again. The sense of isolation

672
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:55.440
that's in this movie is what's most
terrifying to me. I I I see

673
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:59.519
what I did there. Sorry,
but yeah, no, I revisit this

674
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.280
every win. So it was an
absolute pleasure to bring this to the show

675
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:08.000
because I just I love this fucking
movie. Do You Even? Movie will

676
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:22.920
be right back, Welcome back to
Do You Even? Movie? Yeah,

677
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.159
No, it's a really fun one
and one that I've really enjoyed revisiting.

678
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.719
Yeah, I'm so glad it got
a nice blu ray release. Then that

679
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.599
kind of put it back onto people's
sites. I think too, because I

680
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.960
remember how excited I was when they
announced this. So are you ready to

681
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:42.800
get into it? Into what the
movie? Let's all go to the that's

682
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.000
I mean, that's about not going
to the movie. But uh, all

683
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.480
right, fine, all right,
the hell I'm in. So we opened

684
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.920
with a shot of an American flag
as we see Boyd who is being accommodated

685
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.119
for getting a hold of enemy lines. He secured a station, and he's

686
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:59.159
flashing back to the events and we
see that all his men around him are

687
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:05.559
dying in battle. Flashbacks are bloody, even by war flashback standards, absolutely

688
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:13.440
like it's freaking wet with blood like
and that's kind of the the imagery they're

689
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:17.280
selling right now is not just dead
bodies, not just bloody bodies. Everything

690
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.679
is soaking in blood like. It
makes you, It makes it to the

691
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:27.920
point where you can almost smell his
flashbacks because I can't over I really want

692
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:32.079
to sell it properly. Wet with
blood, yeah, no, it's like

693
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:38.039
soaking drenched, sticky with blood.
And I love the sequence because after the

694
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:40.760
accommodation, what do they do to
the men to show them they care.

695
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:46.559
They serve them all steaks, and
I love that the plates are just a

696
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:52.159
steak too big for the plate,
no vegetables, and a pile of bread

697
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.440
in the middle of the table people
could pass around. So it's all about

698
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.719
that steak, which, honestly,
I mean, if you think about the

699
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:00.519
era and what those guys been through, they probably hadn't had a stake,

700
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:04.400
and well that's why they're all chomping
down on it. Well, and also

701
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:08.639
to make us even sicker because now
we're looking at these nasty, bloody steaks,

702
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:14.280
very rare. I mean a lot
of this was rare. Yeah,

703
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:22.440
And as they're chomping down, our
main character is just more. All it

704
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.880
does is remind him of those moist
memories, which, by the way,

705
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.480
will be the name of your autobiography. So he's visually repulsed. We see

706
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.840
him go throw up, and as
Enrique said, that's when we get the

707
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:38.360
credit and then revenue. So we
hear his captain, General Slawson, who

708
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:42.360
is telling him that he's going to
be sent to Fort Spencer in California because

709
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.920
he hates him. Because he hates
him because we'll find out a little bit

710
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:46.480
that he's not the hero that we're
supposed to believe. I mean, he's

711
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:52.280
a hero, but he kind of
tripped into it after being a cow howard.

712
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:53.840
Yeah, So he travels to the
four and that's our credits, and

713
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:59.079
we're seeing beautiful range of the Sierra
Nevadas and just there's snow falling and we

714
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.159
see him trekking. He gets to
the fore and meets Martha there who shows

715
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:06.199
him his quarters, and we flashback
once again to Boyd and he is watching

716
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.559
his men be slaughtered. He's seeing
everybody just sink to the ground covered in

717
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.719
blood. So then he just cowards
down and goes into the mud as well.

718
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.480
We find out that they buried the
bodies of his comrades on top of

719
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:19.039
him. He hid in the bodies, snuck out and that's how he took

720
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.679
the enemy outposts. He basically faked
he was dead, yeah, and laid

721
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.599
for hours and hours in a pile
of his dead comrades, yea until he

722
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:30.280
could sneak out. And why he
said to Fort Spencer is because they're like,

723
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.639
you know, we could shoot you, but since you took the enemy

724
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:36.840
outpost, like it puts a bad
taste of the people technically a war hero.

725
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.360
Yeah, it's just by way of
cowardice. Yeah. So then we

726
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.480
meet Colonel Hart who's played by Jeffrey
Jones, and he goes over the company

727
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.440
and what Fort Spencer is. It's
a way station on the way to Nevada's

728
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:51.000
and they don't get much traffic in
the winter when the storms and everything sweep

729
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:54.880
in. There's Toffler, there's George
Cleaves Knox who is the general, and

730
00:48:55.000 --> 00:49:00.119
doctor Martha, and that is our
posse of Fort Spencer. You makes eight,

731
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.679
that's the way he says it,
which I feel was a reference to

732
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:10.440
Agatha Christie and ten Little Indians,
because and he makes eight that now,

733
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.880
don't I mean? I mean I
have not read ten Little Indians? Or

734
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:16.599
isn't that also called twist of the
screw? Not twisted the screw? No,

735
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:20.400
not that one. There's ten little
Indians, and then there was and

736
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.559
then there were none. Was the
retitling of it. Yeah, yeah,

737
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:28.480
because ten Little Indians isn't the most
respectful title. Well, but you know,

738
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.559
uh so, but I felt like
that was a reference that I could

739
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:35.960
be over looking into things, but
it really did feel like it, and

740
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:42.199
I love for for context. As
Jeffrey Jones is talking about them, he's

741
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:47.239
eating walnuts, so he's just he's
got a mouthful of food as he's talking.

742
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.760
The whole time, he's eating and
eating and eating. And then how

743
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.360
do we transition out of the scene
by him saying, like, so and

744
00:49:54.480 --> 00:50:00.760
so is the cook I would recommend
not eating but most but most Yeah,

745
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:04.079
but most men have to and going
over our posse. So. Toffler is

746
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.159
played by Jeremy Davies. He played
Charles Manson in the two thousand and three

747
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:13.119
Helder Skelter. He's also Dicky on
Justified. Yeah. We also have George,

748
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.559
who is played by Joseph Running Fox
Cleaves David Arquette, Yes, and

749
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:21.599
our Quette honestly very well used yes
in this because he's kind of just the

750
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:23.880
goofball guy. Yeah, but when
he has to be dramatic, he does

751
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:28.039
a really great job. Yeah.
And then Major Knox is played by Steven

752
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:31.079
Spanella and Martha is played by Sheila
Tawsei. Great cast of actors in this

753
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:35.119
The supporting cast of this film makes
it all the more fun than it is

754
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:37.159
too. Oh, everybody in it
is on their game. Yeah. So

755
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:43.000
Boyd flashes back and we see everything
happen as it unfolds with him being buried

756
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.760
under his dead He climbs out takes
the station, and that's when you find

757
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.880
out that his promotion was completely an
insult to him, because they're like,

758
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:50.800
we're gonna shoot you, or we
can send you here, So they get

759
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.559
him completely out of the hair.
Later that night, Heart asked Boyd if

760
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.639
he wants to join him because Knox
has just knotted off drunk and passed out,

761
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.360
and he's like, he's got some
excellent bourbon. Yeah, and he's

762
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:01.320
like, you know, you think
on mine. He's like, I don't

763
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:05.360
know. So then that night,
as they're drinking, a stranger appears outside

764
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:07.639
the window, a lonely traveler who's
near death from frostbite. So they take

765
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.599
him in and bathe him, and
that's when we meet Calhoun, and so

766
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:14.960
they have a signed offer to watch
over him. The next morning, Calhoun

767
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:16.840
wakes up and he asked where he
is, and he nearly breaks down when

768
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:21.239
he finds out that he's north into
Nevados, and he is freaking out and

769
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.760
he's like, you know what,
you know what? Where heart asked him

770
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:25.480
how long have you been out there? He's like three months and he's like

771
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:29.880
without food, and he goes yeah. But then he goes ask him again

772
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:30.960
and he's like, well, he
said, I did I said there wasn't

773
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.400
food. I didn't say we had
anything to eat. I didn't say we

774
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.280
had nothing to eat. I said
we had no food, which I think

775
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:42.280
is a really great way to kind
of bring this about. Yeah, that

776
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.159
moment I said there was I said
there was no food, not that there

777
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.639
was nothing to eat. Yeah.
So then we get the story that Calhoun

778
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:52.400
was part of a wagon train of
six and their guy, Colonel Ives,

779
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.960
had an idea for a route that
was off the trail that would get them

780
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:59.000
quicker through the Sierras. So the
guy claimed to know a shorter route,

781
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.199
but unfortunately winter hits before they reach
the Nevadas and they have to go into

782
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:05.719
a cave because that's the only way
of shelter they have at this point.

783
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.880
Yeah, which I mean a cave
is a good, good enough shelter,

784
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.639
Yeah, if you're not starving to
death. So they go into the cave

785
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:14.800
and they shortly run out of food. They eat the oxes, they eat

786
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.559
the horses, they eat the chickens, and then they start eating their belts

787
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:22.360
and their shoes. But the hunger
still persists. It and yet we persist,

788
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.519
and yet we persist. So they
remain famished and unfortunately have to turn

789
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:30.079
to cannibalism, which they do so
by one of their own dying of malnourishment.

790
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.320
Calhoun says that he wasn't for the
idea, but walking back into the

791
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:35.880
cave and finding out that they were
cooking his legs and the smell of it,

792
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:37.800
he was He smiled at the smell
of meat, is what he says.

793
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:44.239
Yeah, And when we find out
Calhoun what his real deal is,

794
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:50.480
it's fascinating that he's telling the story
because a spoiler alert, where's the spoiler

795
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.679
alert? His story is a bunch
of bullshit. Yeah, why why even

796
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:59.400
confess to cannibalism? Yeah, Uh, if you're gonna just if you're gonna

797
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:01.119
just tell it everybody, or you're
just gonna Yeah, Like, I don't

798
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:04.639
know, I thought that he's fucking
with him. The way he spends it

799
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.079
though, is what gets him out
there, and that's that's the genius move

800
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:08.039
on his part. Yeah, that
is. That's a fair point. So

801
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:13.679
things get out of hand and they
decide that they're going to keep going with

802
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.719
the killing, and that's when Calhoun
starts to notice. The party starts going.

803
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:20.400
One goes, another goes and then
hits just him, ives and McCready's

804
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.320
wife, and mccreedy was one of
the people left over. So Calhoun decides

805
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.760
to flee for his life because he
knows that he's going to die if he

806
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.000
stays there, and that's when he
has wound up. Now it's Fort Spencer,

807
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:34.400
yes, and they've managed to warm
him up. He seems oddly well,

808
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.840
yeah, he's he's only a little
skinny, yeah, which they mentioned

809
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.159
kind of immediately, and then he
immediately says like you should have seen me

810
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:45.320
before I was thirty pounds heavier and
all this stuff, and uh yeah.

811
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.760
So now, of course Jeffrey Jones
character Colonel Hart, he hears of this

812
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.400
and he's like, well, we've
got to you gotta go find are you

813
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:54.239
crazy? Yeah, And he's like
it's our job, Yeah, it's our

814
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:58.159
job. We gotta go out there, and that's when George pulls his attention

815
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.199
aside and tells him the myth of
the wind to go, which, Enrique,

816
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.840
would you like to take this?
The Windy Go? Oh man,

817
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.679
Well, I've covered this a lot
on my show Weekly Spooky and the Windigo

818
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:14.639
is an old Native American legend,
mostly algonquin and alba juwey. Sorry if

819
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.719
I'm saying that a little harsh or
wrong, but mostly around where we're from,

820
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:28.000
the Ohio's, Indiana places like that, And it's basically the story of

821
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:32.599
hunger and desperation in the winter leading
people to cannibalism, and then once they

822
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.800
consume a human being, they consume
human flesh, they get inherited by a

823
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:43.880
spirit, a spirit known as the
Wendy Go, and the Wendy Go in

824
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:50.159
this movie it's simplified, but the
Wendygo references a need for more gluttony.

825
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:57.719
It represents a selfishness that takes over
your soul and makes you hungry for more,

826
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.599
and basically, long in the show, once you've eaten human flesh,

827
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:05.320
you can never stop anything. Flesh. Nothing will sate your hunger, not

828
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:07.639
even really the human flesh with and
that's the other thing. A lot of

829
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:10.280
the Wendigo stories say that the more
you eat, the thinner you get,

830
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:15.960
and you just keep going and going
until eventually you'd go mad and die hunger.

831
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:21.199
And that's the thing is you you
basically either kill your fellow man or

832
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.719
you starve to death, and there's
no other choice. And a lot of

833
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:34.039
people think that the Wendigo myth was
about properly what's the word, properly demonizing

834
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.360
cannibalism in the native world at that
time, because a lot of people had

835
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:43.719
risked or potentially committed cannibalism because the
winters were so harsh, I mean,

836
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:46.599
so brutal. I mean, this
is beyond you know, they were natives

837
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:51.519
and they didn't no, no,
they knew how to live and they knew

838
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:55.159
when they were going to die in
those weather situations. So that was kind

839
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:58.519
of the concept, was that it
was like there was this idea to make

840
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:00.199
it an ultimate taboo, to where
it was like, no, no,

841
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:02.280
no, if you eat human flesh, you'll be cursed, not just you

842
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:07.480
know, sad about it. Yeah. So, and obviously human flesh eating,

843
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:08.599
as we've been talking about, has
been a taboo for a very long

844
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:14.639
time, and nearly every culture there's
references to cannibalism and things like that.

845
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:16.920
But it is interesting that they bring
up the Windy Go because when the movie

846
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:21.079
started and I realized that they were
out near California, I was like,

847
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:22.480
well, there aren't a lot of
believers in the Windy Go out there.

848
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:27.159
They mentioned that it's from up north, but really it'd be far east,

849
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:31.000
of course, like the Midwest basically
of America, like Minnesota, Wisconsin,

850
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:37.320
Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, places like that. I always joke

851
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:38.719
when I go on my trips up
to northern Michigan and I'm like, way

852
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.199
up in the middle of nowhere,
in the dead snow. I always joke

853
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:44.920
that, like I'm just like,
ah, like I just stopped driving once

854
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:46.280
I hear the Wendy Go scream.
That's what I know. I'm in the

855
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.280
right place. I'm always going where
the Wendy Go lives to hang out.

856
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:52.239
And I always say, if I
ever saw that Wendy Go, I'd kiss

857
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:57.039
him on the mouth. So anyway, but no, So that's basically a

858
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.400
Wendy Go legend. Now there are
a lot of variations and stuff like that,

859
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.960
but basically, if you eat a
person. It'll make you feel amazing

860
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.559
and powerful, but it'll make you
greedy and gluttonous for more. Yeah,

861
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:09.800
of every and often it's of everything, not just not just not just human

862
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:15.239
flesh, but power and strength and
women and money and everything. Yeah.

863
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:17.400
So this version, he says eating
the flesh of another man gives the man

864
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:22.599
his strength that he consumes and he
wants more. So Heart asks George.

865
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:23.239
He's like, well, that doesn't
happen anymore, does it? And he

866
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:27.320
goes, well, people break the
bread of Christ every Sunday and he's like,

867
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:30.440
I do love that. He's like, actually, I mean Jesus has

868
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:34.079
a cannibal element to it. So
Colonel hart, Toffler, Boyd, Reich,

869
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:37.159
George, and Calhoun set out for
the cave, and we see them

870
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:39.159
trekking through the Nevadas. They stop
for a night for camp. They're continuing

871
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:43.199
the next morning, trekking through the
hills, and at one point Heart they're

872
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:44.960
on top of a peak and he's
like, all right, bourbon break.

873
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:47.360
So they stop and sip some bourbon, and Boyd takes the opportunity to ask

874
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:51.880
Calhoun about the effects of consuming flesh. You know, did he feel anything

875
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:52.559
different? You know? It's like, oh, yeah, I heard that

876
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:54.719
legend. He's like, I guess
you could say that I felt like a

877
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:58.360
little revitalized, you know, after
the first taste. You could say that.

878
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:01.360
But you wouldn't be freaked out by
hearing that, because when you're starving,

879
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.960
any food in your stomach would make
you feel amazing, It really would.

880
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:09.519
I mean, I mean, gosh, I mean any any time have

881
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:14.000
you ever eaten like a you know, just a fine meal but you were

882
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.199
starving. Oh yeah, you know. I mean, if you're starving,

883
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:20.400
a brick of ramen noodles is good, You're gonna be like, You're gonna

884
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.559
be like, oh man, yeah, so good. That was one thing

885
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:27.159
I learned doing a lot of intermittent
fasting. I would do like a seventy

886
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:31.320
two hour fast. Whatever you eat, it could be plain kale, and

887
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:37.559
you would be like, it's so
good for us. Plain corn would taste

888
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.519
sweet as candy, so like it
does. It amplifies your your taste buds

889
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:44.559
and stuff. Of course, I
did not eat human flesh after by no,

890
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:47.920
not yet. So he takes the
up Jude to ask Calhoun. Calhoun

891
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:51.800
says, revitalized him up on the
top of the hill, Toffler finds a

892
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:53.840
bone, but he's not paying attention, and he suddenly falls down the backside

893
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:58.280
rolling on some rocks and gets stabbed
in the side by some jagged rocks.

894
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:00.800
So Toffler is off a little bit. We see him being bandaged by Reich

895
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:04.559
later in a tent, and he's
also requesting bourbon though, which I love

896
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:07.800
because at first he shouts bourbon,
nobody moves bourbon. Yeah, I love

897
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:22.039
that. Burba do You Even?
Movie? Will be right back, welcome

898
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:30.320
back to do You Even? Movie? So he's being bandaged by Reich and

899
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.280
Reich takes notice that Boyd is uneasy
when he sees blood. Later that night,

900
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.079
Taffler wakes up screaming as the tent
is illuminated to reveal that Calhoun was

901
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.840
licking his wounds and his mouth actually
has bloodcaked around. Yeah, he doesn't

902
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:45.400
even hide it because once, once, he once he's called out for it,

903
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:46.920
he's just like, please, like
tie me up or something, because

904
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:52.400
I couldn't resist. Yeah, and
that's where we get that legendary he was

905
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.960
lose like it, which is just
one of the top moments of the whole

906
00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:00.239
film. Yeah, So Calhoun is
bound and he's in Reich's hands as they're

907
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:02.800
leading him on a little rope across
the rest of the trip. And they

908
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:06.679
get to the cave and that's when
you see Calhoun start to freak out.

909
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:08.800
He's approaching it and he's just getting
nervous and begging them to go back.

910
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:12.599
Yeah, and the way the one
guy describes it is he says he's spooked,

911
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:15.599
which is how you describe animals usually. Yeah, he's just shaking and

912
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.719
panicked and afraid. So the group
stations outside the cave as Heart calls to

913
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.079
missus McCready and Colonel ives no answer, so he sends Boyd and Reich in

914
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:28.519
to investigate. Inside the cave,
a discovery has made that it's five bodies

915
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.079
instead of four, meaning the Calhoun
is the killer killed ives and all of

916
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:35.519
them. And outside Calhoun we see
is digging up a knife. Toffler,

917
01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.639
noticing this, is calling to him, and that's when Heart comes over.

918
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:40.679
He's like he spooked. He goes
to the cave as Reich and Boyd are

919
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:45.280
calling to him to like kill Calhoun. He's a trader, h m.

920
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.440
And just as he starts to hear
it, Calhoun sneaks up stabs Heart right

921
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.320
in the gut and takes the knife
and brings it right up, slicing him.

922
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:57.639
Yeah, it's brutal and the beginning
of many moments of brutality. Yeah.

923
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.280
So George has seen this happen.
He's up on a ram and he

924
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:02.920
goes to hit Calhoun with an axe, but Calhoun spins Heart's body around as

925
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:06.599
he takes the axe. He takes
Heart's pistol off him shoots George dead.

926
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:09.199
So now it's just Toffler and Calhoun, and of course Toffler's freaking out,

927
01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:15.159
and hilariously, Calhoun goes up to
him. He's walking up with the knife

928
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:19.280
and Tauffler's just frozen. He's like, run, yeah, run, And

929
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.199
so Toffler goes off, screaming up
the other side of the stream. That's

930
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:25.119
when we have Boyd and Raich reach
the cave and they are trying to find

931
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:29.199
Toffler, who's screaming, and they
go over to the side they're calling for

932
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.639
him. Calhoun's laughing hysterically. Suddenly
they find Toaffler and he has been completely

933
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:37.400
good. And it's important to point
out Calhoun's mentality has changed entirely. Now

934
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:43.840
he is playful and insane. Yeah, before he was fearful and he had

935
01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:46.159
like a secret maybe, but he
was not a nut job. Well,

936
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:50.800
now he is just going fully hanniballector. And before he does the thing with

937
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:52.960
run I forgot. He goes to
shoot Toffler because he has the pistol still,

938
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:54.800
and he goes and he clicks,
doesn't go off, and he goes.

939
01:01:54.960 --> 01:02:00.320
That's so annoying. No, he
he has a lot of choice moments

940
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:05.960
as a just total matter. Yeah. So Raike is trailing behind him to

941
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:07.079
get to the side of the cliff. Reich fires a shot, but he

942
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:09.880
misses him and he suddenly vanishes.
So Wright goes over to the cliff.

943
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:14.280
Boyd follows him, and suddenly Calhoun
drops down from some trees, throwing a

944
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:15.960
knife at Reich, which takes him
over the side of the cliff. And

945
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:21.440
now it's just Boyd and Calhoun face
to face. Yeah, and it is

946
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.360
a terrifying moment. Terrifying. There's
something about a human being being like him

947
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:31.440
knowing that he is hungry for your
flesh. Yeah, that is truly mortified.

948
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:35.079
So Boyd fires his rifle, dropping
Calhoun to the ground, but he

949
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:37.679
shortly sits up and he's laughing,
and he's now cornered boys to the edge

950
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:42.000
of the cliff. So Boyd has
no choice and he just doubles back and

951
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:44.880
jumps over the side of the cliff, falling down. Yeah, he pulls

952
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.599
a John Rambo. He just jumps
onto the tree and hopes that the branches

953
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:51.920
will slow his fall enough that maybe
he'll live live. Yeah, but it

954
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:55.679
gets pretty ugly as he falls down
the tree and realizes his comrade is also

955
01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.800
in that tree, and he ends
up taking him with him, and then

956
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:05.599
they end up falling into some kind
of a hole in the ground. And

957
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.440
it's it's talk about mortifying. I
know, he keeps saying mortifying. This

958
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:13.880
movie is mortifying, mortifying as his
buddy was, you know, the other

959
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:16.400
one who they were not big friends
big friends, is hanging upside down and

960
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:20.559
he's sitting there trying to figure out
what happened and where they landed. He's

961
01:03:20.679 --> 01:03:23.400
just choking up and choking up.
Well, no, he's choking on and

962
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:25.960
then you realize he's alive. Yeah, he's not. I don't think he's

963
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:30.079
laughing. I think he's just dying
smiling. I don't think he's smiling.

964
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:32.199
I think he's just upside down.
I'm just I'm my personal opinion, He's

965
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:36.960
just upside down. He choke him
and then start strangling him. Yeah,

966
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.280
yeah, and then he falls,
choking stops, and then it's just him

967
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:43.440
in the hole with him. So
now Calhoun starts making his trek down the

968
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.440
mountain looking for them, and since
they're covered in this hole, Calhoun doesn't

969
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:49.880
find them. So then we see
Calhoun just having a barbecue as he's dragging

970
01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:52.599
other bodies into the cave. Yep. And as I commented immediately, I

971
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:57.440
was like, look at that.
No smartphones, just people in the moment.

972
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:01.760
But so now are I mean character
is stuck in a situation where he's

973
01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:05.800
horribly injured. Yep. He's stuck
in that hole. Yeah, he's freezing

974
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:13.280
and starving, and he knows because
the Wendy go is real, yeah,

975
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.360
that if he eats that flesh,
he will get his strength. He will

976
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:20.280
get not just his strength, but
he'll heal, He'll heal, he'll completely

977
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:25.559
be back to it. And this
guy that died with him was a tough

978
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:29.760
mother hover, yes, he was, so eating his flesh would bring you

979
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:34.719
up, you know. So eventually
he makes that choice, gives in mainly

980
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:39.960
because he just wants out of that
hole and to potentially stop Calhoun. Yeah,

981
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.559
and while this is happening, we
also see Cleaves and Martha have arrived

982
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.639
back. It's Fort Spencer and they're
on the lookout for them. We see

983
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:47.119
them doing about their test, but
they keep looking towards the hills waiting for

984
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:50.159
them to come back. So,
uh, Boyd wakes up the next morning

985
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:54.800
and begins his trek back to Fort
Spencer alone. He's trekking through the hills

986
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.719
and the snow and makes it back. He goes to ask Martha as soon

987
01:04:57.760 --> 01:04:59.719
as he's back about the wind to
go and how to stop it, and

988
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:01.239
Mark That tells him there is no
stopping it. Yeah, there ain't no

989
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.599
stopping There are no legends where you
can stop a Wendy go once you become

990
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:09.239
one, Yeah, I mean it's
over. So he's also called on Durdin

991
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.719
General Slawson to send him to the
cave to find the bodies and inspect and

992
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:16.400
everything. And he's basically being blamed
for the deaths at this point. Oh,

993
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:21.119
basically because they when he tells his
story, the first thing they have

994
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:25.239
is they're like, look, we're
not saying you're lying. But if you

995
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:30.480
admit now that you were scared and
confused and tell us what really happened that

996
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:33.639
they died of misadventure, that you
were scared, that you da da da

997
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:36.639
da da, will be kinder to
you. And of course his response is,

998
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:42.880
no, I saw what happened to
them. A man named Calhoun murdered

999
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:47.360
them. And his response is like, hold up, fam we don't believe

1000
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:53.800
you, but we got to replace
your commanding officers, so we got someone

1001
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.679
to take care of business until we
figure out what we're going to do next.

1002
01:05:56.719 --> 01:06:00.079
So Slawson tells him they have a
new temporary colonel joining and introduce U.

1003
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:03.679
His klonel eves as Calhoun walks in
in full soldier attire, causing Boyd

1004
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:08.599
to immediately panic. And he's cleaned
up, cleaned, his facial hair is

1005
01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:13.880
shaved nicely, and at that moment
we realize no one who got a good

1006
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:17.400
look at Calhoun is still alive,
except not for our man. So he

1007
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:20.519
tells him that Knox can confirm that
that's Knox didn't get a good look.

1008
01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:24.960
That's my point. Knox was drunk
and passed out, does not recall him,

1009
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.599
but Knox humors him, saying that
if Boyd shot him in the shoulder,

1010
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.400
the wound would still be there.
So they invite Ives in and he

1011
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.119
strips his shoulders out and there are
no bullet wounds anyway, And that's where

1012
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:39.519
we establish that it's almost where will
fly healing of capability. That's where we

1013
01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:42.760
really get the sense that it's like, no, it can literally make you

1014
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.679
invincible almost as long as you keep
eating, you keep getting stronger. So

1015
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.559
Slows and his troops leave and Boyd
goes to warm up, or goes to

1016
01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:55.760
warm clean worn Cleave and mar Cleaves
and Martha, but he finds Cleaves talking

1017
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.559
shit about him and that he's crazy
and he's the killer. So he's like,

1018
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:00.199
you know, well you've been worn. And then Boyd is out watching

1019
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:03.960
Cleaves chops some wood, and he
has this crazy vision that he goes up

1020
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:06.280
to Cleve, hits him with the
hammer and then just starts cutting him open

1021
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:10.079
and eating him while Cleves laughs at
him. Yeah, that's the part that

1022
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:12.840
like, I love that because that's
insane. Yeah, he's just laughing and

1023
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:15.960
coughing up blood as he's ripping into
his flesh. Yeah, And it's at

1024
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.679
that moment that he mentions later on
he keeps mentioning, like, I have

1025
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:23.599
these nightmares, these constant nightmares,
yeah, about eating flesh, and it's

1026
01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:30.039
tormenting me. And that maybe because
Boyd is not a monster. No he's

1027
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:34.039
not. I mean he's becoming a
monster, yeah, but he himself is

1028
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:39.159
not a monster monster, And I
don't think we can say so about Calhoun,

1029
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:41.400
not just yet. No, no, no, no, Calhoun is

1030
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:45.960
a monster. He's a human monster. He is very, very scary of

1031
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:48.599
this. So Boyd has the crazy
vision and the next we see the five

1032
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:51.840
of them all in the cabin parlor, just enjoying the evening. You got

1033
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:56.840
Calhoun reading a book, Knocks and
Cleaves are doing our playing chess, and

1034
01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:01.280
Martha's knitting, and Boyd is just
one watching Calhoun and he's almost falling asleep.

1035
01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:03.840
Yeah, yeah, he's starting to
nod off. He reminds me of

1036
01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:09.079
a cat. Yeah, So I've
shuts his book really quick, getting everybody

1037
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.199
on the alert. As Boyd rises
up with a knife and Martha draws a

1038
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:14.800
knife on Boyd, and Calhoun's like, all right, I think everybody it's

1039
01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:17.159
time for bed. Yeah, I
think everyone might be a bit tie.

1040
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.560
So later that night, Boyd sits
outside a Calhoun's hut with a knife,

1041
01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:24.319
and he comes out and he tells
Boyd that, you know, I found

1042
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:26.880
Riich's body. You didn't finish him
off. I get it. He was

1043
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.399
tough, but a good old a
good soldier ought to be. Yeah,

1044
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.920
he's so Hannibal Electory. Now.
Yeah, he's smoking, smoking his cigarette

1045
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.920
and he's just out, you know, just telling him everything. And he

1046
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:39.720
talks about how he learned the legend
of the wind to go from an Indian

1047
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:41.640
scout and you know, hearing it, he just had to try it.

1048
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:45.000
So at first he ate the Indian
scout, Yeah, which I mean his

1049
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:50.039
Yeah, these his monologues are incredible
in this so good. So that confirms

1050
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:53.760
that he was right. And then
he admits that he is eating five men

1051
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:57.159
in three months, and he calls
Boyd out on being a coward because he

1052
01:08:57.319 --> 01:08:59.359
knows the power, he knows what
it can do, but he's still not

1053
01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:01.720
doing it. So hearing this,
Boyd takes his swipe and ives, cutting

1054
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:04.319
his hand open, and Ives tries
to entice him with the set of blood,

1055
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:08.720
reminding him of the smell and the
taste and how you would feel better.

1056
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:11.800
Boyd refuses, but he goes to
attack eyes, but Martha comes up,

1057
01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:14.479
draws a knife to his throat,
and Knox puts Boyd under arrest.

1058
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:21.199
Yeah, and of course all of
this because perfectly Calhoun is making Boyd look

1059
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:27.119
like he's the psychopath he was killing
and eating people. Yes, and frankly,

1060
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:31.880
since he is a Wendy go,
you know, he looks he hasn't

1061
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:35.199
eaten since that one time. He
looks sickly, he looks unwell, he

1062
01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:39.840
looks crazy. And on top of
that, this man who, as far

1063
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:43.279
as everybody's concerned, he never met. He's positive he's met him before.

1064
01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:46.520
Yeah, and it just looks real
bad about to get worse because Knox calls

1065
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:49.279
for Martha to go find cleaves.
She can't find cleaves, so she goes

1066
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:55.520
into the barn and finds all the
animals slaughtered. And we're talking Head's hanging

1067
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:58.920
up, Torso's hanging up. So
somebody has intentionally got in they're slaughtered and

1068
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:01.560
has eaten some of these animals,
and animals in this context, I mean

1069
01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:08.159
we're talking horses Oxen thing like,
we're talking animals that would have allowed them

1070
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:11.840
to go get help quickly and efficiently. Because it's a big there's a big

1071
01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.560
difference between riding a horse out to
get help and hiking for three days.

1072
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:17.880
Yeah, big difference. So she
runs a tel Knox and as she walks

1073
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:20.720
up to the window, she's calling
to Knox and starts to have some blood

1074
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:24.680
fall on her face. That's when
she looks up and starts getting terrified because

1075
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:28.600
Knox walks out, stands with her
and finds Cleave's body gutted on the roof

1076
01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:31.319
of the cabin. And it's an
incredible reveal where the blood is dripping onto

1077
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.760
her face and she's just so scared
by it. She just stands there and

1078
01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:40.760
shot. Yes. And that's when
we realize that maybe something else is going

1079
01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:45.600
on. Because Calhoun, I'm gonna
keep calling him Calhoun because it's confusing that

1080
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:49.840
he changed. He becomes another character. Calhoun is only one man, and

1081
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:54.600
he was mostly just fighting with Boyd
all night. Yeah, who killed all

1082
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:57.119
these animals? Stuff? Like when
could he have done it? Yes?

1083
01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:01.319
So now if I remember the young
lady, what was her name, Martha,

1084
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:05.600
Martha, She's got it. They
ask for volunteers. Who's gonna go

1085
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:11.600
get health help? Yeah? They
want to place military arrest. Yeah,

1086
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:15.079
and she volunteers because as a native
woman. She can handle that hype,

1087
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:18.479
and she knows where she's going.
Yeah, and frankly, I wouldn't want

1088
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:20.960
to be I think she also just
didn't want to be there anymore. Her

1089
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:25.960
last friend she lost her husband,
remember he was the Native American that was

1090
01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:29.640
on the trip. And then her
brother brother, Oh sorry, brother,

1091
01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:32.279
thank you. And then Arquette was
her brother's best friend, and then was

1092
01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:35.720
the one who she leaned into when
she was mourning him. And now he's

1093
01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:39.680
gone too. So it's like if
I was her, I'd be like,

1094
01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:41.920
yeah, I'm gonna go get him, and then I'm also not gonna come

1095
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:49.760
back. So now we have two
cannibals, one evil and one neutral.

1096
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:56.920
Yeah, and this poor drunk,
good enough doctor. I'm sure he'll farewell.

1097
01:11:57.119 --> 01:12:00.960
I'm sure he's going to do very
well. As they have BOYD tied

1098
01:12:01.079 --> 01:12:04.920
up, yes, awaiting because they
can't do anything else with because they're awaiting

1099
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:10.960
military military prison. So you got
boyd, Ives and and Major Knocks are

1100
01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:14.560
all together now, and we see
that Ives is preparing a stew as he

1101
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:16.239
calls to Boyd, calls to Knox
because he wants to know he's still alive.

1102
01:12:16.399 --> 01:12:20.960
Ives is Calhoun, Yes, Ives
is Calhoun. Knox questions Ives about

1103
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:24.840
his missing saber, because he notices
in the parlor that one of his sabers

1104
01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:28.279
is missing above the fireplace, and
before he mentions that, he says one

1105
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:31.479
of my favorite little moments. He
asks Calhoun if he can help him make

1106
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:35.760
the stew yes, and Calhoun says, oh, I'm sure you'll contribute to

1107
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:40.399
it. Later, we'll take your
contribution to he'll contribute it something. So

1108
01:12:40.479 --> 01:12:43.439
Ive states that he hasn't seen it, and perhaps later that you might contribute

1109
01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:46.159
to the soup. Boyd asked Ives
when did he have time to kill cleaves

1110
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:48.239
and the horses, which pisses Knocks
off. So he goes to shut the

1111
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:51.680
door on Boyd. While he does
that, we see somebody with his sabers

1112
01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:55.560
slip behind and then Knox comes back
into the room. He's like, well,

1113
01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:58.199
who opened that door? He goes
to shut the door and we hear

1114
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:02.479
Knox go oh, And then Major
Knox is dead. Boyd, here's the

1115
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:06.199
body hit and the door opens,
and what do you know? It's Colonel

1116
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:13.239
Heart. Colonel Heart Jeffrey Jones not
dead, but he looks, I mean,

1117
01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:15.640
he looks much better than a dead
man. He's you know, he's

1118
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:18.319
like he walks in, He's like, hi, boyd. Yeah, what

1119
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:23.359
a great twist, and what a
great way to keep us on our toes

1120
01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:26.720
as an audience, because I would
not have seen that coming in the little

1121
01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:29.640
least. The first time I watched
this, I was like, holy shit,

1122
01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:31.840
I did not expect that. Yeah, and he's he's a little bloody,

1123
01:13:31.960 --> 01:13:35.359
he's a little worse for wear,
but obviously, like we said before,

1124
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:39.079
he had his guts were spilling out
before, so so he's doing a

1125
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:45.319
lot better than now. And that's
when we find out that Calhoun awoke him

1126
01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:49.920
feeding him human remain, and we
strike, and this is when we start

1127
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:55.600
to realize that one of the big
elements of what Calhoun is doing is actually

1128
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:58.680
that he doesn't want to be a
low It was pursuit of human flesh.

1129
01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:03.720
He wants to have cannibal buddies,
and he's sold Jeffrey Jones's character on the

1130
01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:09.640
idea of you and me are going
to be cannibal buddies. But of course

1131
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.439
Jeffrey Jones's reaction is like, I
like you, BOYD, Like I really

1132
01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:15.079
do. I have no intention to
kill you. It's it's tough making friends

1133
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:20.000
as a cannibal, tough making friends
as a cannibal. But it's such a

1134
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:25.600
good line. But that also makes
you realize something again, which is Calhoun

1135
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:32.159
is a particularly monstrous Wendy go because
even Jeffrey Jones, he's clearly perverted by

1136
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:38.840
the whole Because then in the next
scene they finished the stew with Knox's body.

1137
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:42.720
Yeah, and they're eating it and
it's it's, you know, a

1138
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:45.760
big stew with carrots and potatoes.
Well before that, yeah, he takes

1139
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:50.760
Boyd outside because that's when they unveil
the plan that because ives Calhoun unveils that

1140
01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:54.760
you know, this Ford is gonna
be is so busy in spring and summer

1141
01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:57.560
that we'll have people come through.
We're not going to kill all of them,

1142
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.920
will kill selectively, but you know, it's just gonna be on the

1143
01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:02.800
dinner table as soon as the as
soon as winter finishes. And while he's

1144
01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:06.520
doing this, he's hacking up our
Knox's body. And it is a great

1145
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:10.000
speech. Thank you, I didn't
I almost went right over it. It's

1146
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:13.880
a great speech about manifest destiny and
all the gold hungry Americans that have to

1147
01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.479
pass right through here. Yeah,
and so many of them. You never

1148
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.439
hear from again. Nope, so, and I do like how he's trying.

1149
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:23.119
He's like, we will kill selectively. Yeah, we won't kill everybody.

1150
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:26.479
No no, no, we'll kill
very selectively. But it's like he's

1151
01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:29.840
really trying to sell him on this, like, let's be Cannibal Bros.

1152
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.079
Which, by the way, is
the name of your debut album, Thank

1153
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:40.119
You, coming out twenty twenty five
Innerscope Records. Jesus, do You Even?

1154
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:50.800
Movie? Will be right back,
welcome back to Do You Even Movie?

1155
01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:58.079
At this point too, he also, you know, tells Boyd the

1156
01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:00.000
plan and he's like, you know, join us or die, and that's

1157
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:03.279
when he stabs Boyd, basically gives
him a final death stab and if he

1158
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.039
doesn't do anything with these wounds,
they're gonna kill him. Yeah. Yeah.

1159
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:10.079
Basically it's like that won't kill you. He says, that won't kill

1160
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:14.720
you if you eat or if you
take precautions. So I think it was

1161
01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:16.800
it was a line like that,
but he was referenced he was saying flash

1162
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:20.880
yeh yeah. Basically, now now
you have no choice. Before you were

1163
01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:25.960
slowly dying of hunger. Now you
are just dying and the only way out

1164
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:31.079
is to take a bite of stew. And this scene is disgusting and upsetting,

1165
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:33.039
and it was one of the ones
that got to me a lot as

1166
01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:38.760
a kid. And as he's resisting
and resisting, and as Jeffrey Jones is

1167
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:42.000
eating and being so happy that he's
gonna feel so much better, and Calhoun

1168
01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:44.920
is just a freaking nutter, because
Calhoun is a nut job, Jeffrey Jones

1169
01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:48.239
is the line, isn't this nice
three of them sitting? Yeah, No,

1170
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:55.760
it's it's it's the insanity is palpable. And at that moment, after

1171
01:16:56.159 --> 01:17:00.960
a lot of uh, we see
that Boyd's wound is just lea he's gonna

1172
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:03.399
die coughing up blood, and he's
just got this thing of stew in front

1173
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:06.640
of him, and he gives in
and he just starts eating the stew and

1174
01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:10.760
you know, he's gulping it down. And then we cut to a couple

1175
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:15.119
of days later. He's completely fine. He's looking very well and and and

1176
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:20.159
that's the moment when the movie really
became hard for a young Enrique watching in

1177
01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:25.039
his little little living room. And
I could see that in suburban Ohio.

1178
01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:29.079
So we see Boyd watching ives and
heart prepare for general Slawson's arrival because Martha's

1179
01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:31.640
bringing him back today. Heart visits
Boyd asking him if he's to be trusted

1180
01:17:31.680 --> 01:17:34.199
because they need to set him free
so that they can you know, get

1181
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:38.359
Ives and everybody under control so they
can take the fort. And he goes,

1182
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:40.960
you know, can you be trusted? And Boyd goes, of course

1183
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:44.239
not. So then we see Boyd
being led out and Ives is watching from

1184
01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:46.800
the watch tower for General Slawson's wagon. Heart goes into his old office with

1185
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:49.680
Boyd, unlocks his cuff, and
he comments on all his missing books and

1186
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:53.800
how they all related to the same
thing, you know, of happiness and

1187
01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:58.800
how to achieve it. Yeah,
to which Boyd responds, Aristotle's search was

1188
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:00.520
for truth, yeah, which I
just love that line, Like for some

1189
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:04.039
reason, he he knows it.
Yeah, it was Aristotle. He knows

1190
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:08.159
Aristotle because he was like, because
I got confused for Resent because they Quoe

1191
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:11.279
Nietsche at the beginning. Yeah,
Yeah, he's like, he's like Aristotle

1192
01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:14.079
search for truth. And this is
also a great scene too, to demonstrate

1193
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.439
the change Jeffrey Jones character, because
we talked about in the beginning he was

1194
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:19.640
eating the walnuts and he was having
trouble crushing them so that he started using

1195
01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:24.359
books to do it. Now he
just crushed them with his hand. He's

1196
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:30.119
not fisting them, David, crushing
them with his fists. Please, no,

1197
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:33.880
David. So he's crushing these walnuts. That needs to be the first

1198
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:41.000
do you even movie t shirt?
Just Dave fisting them. So he's crushing

1199
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:43.720
these walnuts, and that's when he
breaks down and tells Boyd that this is

1200
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:45.600
not how he wants to live.
He does not want to do this anymore.

1201
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:48.520
He's already figured it out and didn't
take him long to realize he's not

1202
01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:51.920
a monster. He's not a monster. So he freezes Boyd because Boyd says,

1203
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:55.640
you know, I'm gonna go kill
Calhoun. So he freezes Boyd and

1204
01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:58.199
he goes, you know, boy
to have one more request, kill me.

1205
01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:00.520
And Boyd wastes no time walking up
to the window that he's looking out

1206
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:03.399
of. Right his eyves is coming
off the watch tower and he just slices

1207
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:06.840
Jones throat. Blood sprays on the
window. Calhoun walks up and sees this,

1208
01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:10.880
and you even see I love because
Jeffrey Jones gives him one last look

1209
01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:14.039
that's like, you're not gonna win. Yeah no, And that's why I

1210
01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:15.319
love. One of the things I
love is that, like, I don't

1211
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:21.159
know if Jeffrey Jones the character,
I don't know if he really was on

1212
01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:25.960
board at first and then realize the
reality, or if he always just wanted

1213
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:30.479
to have an upper hand on Calhoun. I don't he was just lonely,

1214
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:32.720
because I mean, that's that is
all the biggest things that he throws in

1215
01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:34.560
the mood in the first part of
the movie is just you know, this

1216
01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:38.439
is a place where not a lot
of people come. We make our own

1217
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:41.159
company here. It's good to have
company. Well, when he says like

1218
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:43.880
you search for truth, he's like, well, my I did everything right

1219
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:46.199
searching for truth and I ended up
here, yeah, which is a really

1220
01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:50.359
fair point. Yeah. Yeah.
So now it is the final battle as

1221
01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:54.760
Ives catches Boyd the Powler unsheathing one
of the sabers, and the two go

1222
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:58.279
into a vicious battle. They cut
each other a little bit and then Ives.

1223
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:01.920
Calhoun disappears out and Boyd is looking
for him. Suddenly a bell rings,

1224
01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:03.960
which takes him over to the barn. So he goes into the barn

1225
01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:08.319
and that's when there's just stabbing implements
galore all over the place. We are

1226
01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:12.079
not going to be able to describe
this fight properly. Calhoun drops from the

1227
01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:15.319
ceiling at one point and they get
into a huge fight. So he picks

1228
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:17.439
up a pitchfork and he jabs Calhoun
in the side, and then he tries

1229
01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:19.880
to get him in the face and
he holds it off, and that's when

1230
01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:24.560
they just start throwing each other all
over the room, stabbing, cutting,

1231
01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:28.239
stabbing, cutting, stabbing, And
it finally gets to one point where Boyd

1232
01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:30.560
draws him over to one section of
the barn, which he has the roof

1233
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.199
collapse on, so he's buried him
and he wanders off, and then he

1234
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:36.319
calls him over one more time and
they go into this other section of the

1235
01:20:36.399 --> 01:20:40.640
barn. They're throwing each other against
the wall, and Calhoun gets thrown into

1236
01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:43.800
one part of this room where boy
draws him into, and that's when he

1237
01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:47.159
lands onto a bear trap that he
activates on both of them. They land

1238
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:51.479
together. Yes, they're gripping each
other. He drops him onto this gargantuan

1239
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:55.720
grizzly bear trap, and remember grizzlies
are out that way. Yeah, so

1240
01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.840
they'd have the biggest bear traps in
the world. And when he falls on

1241
01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:00.960
it together, he just starts hitting
it and hitting it to make it snap,

1242
01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:06.079
and it snaps on both of them
them what I'm ending to the fight.

1243
01:21:06.680 --> 01:21:13.399
And as they are dying, as
they are suffering and choking blood,

1244
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:18.720
Calhoun immediately goes, if you die
first, you're definitely eating you. And

1245
01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:23.960
he's like, but the question is
if I die, what are you gonna

1246
01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:26.560
do? Yeah, what are you
gonna do? And that's when and at

1247
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:30.640
that moment you hope as the audience, that BOYD will die and let the

1248
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:36.000
Wendy go die. Yeah, but
there's a little poisoned pill in the in

1249
01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:40.880
this in this mess. By this
point, General Slosson and Martha have returned

1250
01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:43.119
to the fort and they can't find
anybody, of course, so they're searching

1251
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:46.560
around and Slosson just happens to notice
the pot on the stove and goes over

1252
01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:49.560
and starts taking a couple of SIPs
out of it and really really likes that

1253
01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:57.319
soup. Yeah, and it's probably
still x yes, maybe even somebody oh

1254
01:21:57.399 --> 01:22:00.960
and probably leaves. Yeah, you're
watching it. When he was stirring,

1255
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:03.119
you see like a big rib bone. Yeah, and you were like,

1256
01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:04.960
man, look at that ribbone,
and I was like, David, that's

1257
01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:08.000
how you make broth. Oh,
I know, bone broth. It was

1258
01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:10.479
just making a time. It was
just funny, though, David, that's

1259
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:14.039
how you make a And then I
was like, so in his dying breaths,

1260
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:17.960
Calhoun is going live or die,
Live or die, and then suddenly

1261
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:23.560
he gets to that last one and
goes. Just at this point, Martha

1262
01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:28.079
peeks into the barn, sees both
Boyd and Calhoun have passed, closes the

1263
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:30.760
barn and just quietly backs away outside
of the forts. And that, my

1264
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:34.439
friends, Yeah, she leaves,
she's done some ditches, And that,

1265
01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:41.479
my friends, is nineteen ninety nine's
ravenous. A phenomenal film worth revisiting,

1266
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:45.359
especially in the cold, hungry winter
months. Yes, when you find yourself

1267
01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:48.840
only with a can of Spam and
a Blu ray player, this is what

1268
01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:53.199
you should have brought to your cabin. Uh, you know. I mean,

1269
01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:57.800
maybe I wish there there are some
good ones out there, but I

1270
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:02.239
wish there were more really good when
movies, there are a couple good.

1271
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:05.279
I liked it, but I wish
there was one that was a little more

1272
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:12.359
like what was that when we saw
Antlers Antlers was pretty good. I want

1273
01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:17.039
one that's I want one that's like
Balls to the Walls, but but subtle

1274
01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:25.960
enough to be scary. So not
Frostbighter, although Frost Fighter is fun podcast.

1275
01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.439
I mean, if I wish there
were enough Windy Go films to talk

1276
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:31.640
about, I would do Wendy Go
Wednesday. You know, we do Wendy

1277
01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:35.560
Go Week but no. I but
I enjoyed this one. I think that

1278
01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:41.079
the Wendy Go references are It's subtle, it's minor. It's not like this

1279
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:45.720
is a movie about Algonquin folklore or
something. And I really I love this

1280
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:53.000
movie. I love the style,
but I really love that the characters got

1281
01:23:53.159 --> 01:23:58.760
to have a choice. Yeah,
and that's when you realize that the Wendy

1282
01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:03.279
Go only opens the door to being
a monster. But if you are a

1283
01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:09.640
monster, you'll run fast as you
can. Let alone the fact that he

1284
01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:13.439
sought it out, but just the
fact that he was running to it.

1285
01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:16.880
Jeffrey Jones's character thought he wanted it. When he saw the reality, he

1286
01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:21.039
didn't want it. Boyd thought,
in one moment of desperation, he wanted

1287
01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:26.640
it, and never took that desperation. Never took desperation bring him there again

1288
01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:30.039
because as he you know, he
drank the soup. He only did that

1289
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:34.279
so he could stop till again.
No, he was only alive for one

1290
01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:39.880
purpose purpose, and that was to
stop them from killing the innocent people passing

1291
01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:43.520
through that fort. Which brings him
full circle because then he didn't take He

1292
01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:45.640
wasn't a coward because he could have
died. And that's what I also love.

1293
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:48.600
Another great point had the opening of
him being a coward and he wins,

1294
01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:51.960
But in this sense, he's not
a coward and he wins. Yeah.

1295
01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:56.680
Originally he sneaks up on the enemy
because they would never expect him to

1296
01:24:56.720 --> 01:25:00.000
pop up from pile of dead bodies
stab someone and then gets ready to shoot

1297
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:02.159
somebody. So he takes it from
the this was the Spanish or the Mexican

1298
01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:08.960
American war war you but this time
around he faces it head on. He

1299
01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:12.840
sacrifices a lot, including his own
life, but not just his own life,

1300
01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:15.239
but kind of it away his soul
and his reputation because he's going to

1301
01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:17.520
be blamed for these murders. There's
no way he's not going to be.

1302
01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:19.640
I don't know if anybody will be
able to figure out what the hell happened.

1303
01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:24.840
And that I mean because just explaining
Jeffrey Jones's character still being alive would

1304
01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:27.479
be a little hard true, I
mean, who cares about his reputation?

1305
01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:30.439
My point is that like his soul
metaphorically because he had to eat the flesh

1306
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:35.159
twice. Yeah, but he did
it for a good good Yeah, good

1307
01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:39.479
cause. So I agree. So
my point is I agree and wholeheartedly the

1308
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.199
idea of him being a coward at
the beginning. Yeah, by the end

1309
01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:45.279
of this he's kind of the biggest
hero there is. Yeah. I love,

1310
01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:48.640
I really love how it comes full
circle. Ravenous Is is a really

1311
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:53.800
fun one. And so considering how
phenomenal the movie is, I mean,

1312
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:57.119
it must have just lines around the
block in the theaters, right. So

1313
01:25:57.239 --> 01:26:00.720
it opened on March nineteenth of nineteen
eighty nine at eighteenth in the box office,

1314
01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:09.279
grossing over just teen eight teeth,
grossing over just two million dollars against

1315
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:14.159
it's twelve million dollar budget. Friends, that doesn't mean two million dollars that

1316
01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:17.640
weekend, No, he means two
million dollars this entire theatrical run. Yep.

1317
01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:23.079
And it was also it was like
a Fox two thousand movie, which

1318
01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:28.239
which listen whether it's movies or pro
wrestling. If you add two thousand or

1319
01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:32.079
new to an old name, everybody
knows, Ye, it ain't gonna work.

1320
01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:34.640
No, it's gonna be It's gonna
go poorly. And I think that

1321
01:26:34.720 --> 01:26:39.600
this was Fox kind of dipping their
toes in a different kind of concept because

1322
01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:43.560
they would always did that Fox Searchlight. They had all these different different concepts

1323
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:46.960
and labels and stuff like that.
But this, I I can only guess,

1324
01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:51.680
based on looking at the original poster
that they had no clue what they

1325
01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:55.439
had. They had no idea how
to market it, yet for some reason

1326
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:58.880
they felt fine spending twelve million dollars
on it. And that's the thing that

1327
01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:01.359
blows my mind is it's like you
spent twelve million on it, which means

1328
01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:06.600
logic dictates you probably spent ten million
marketing. That was the best you could

1329
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:10.640
come up with. Yeah, but
uh, and you said it came out

1330
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:13.680
in March, March and March nineteenth
of nineteen eighty nine, so it wasn't

1331
01:27:13.680 --> 01:27:15.840
even dumped in genuine was not dump
dumped, was not dumped. I mean

1332
01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:18.199
it's dumped a little for not being
out in the summer, but still,

1333
01:27:18.439 --> 01:27:21.399
yeah, that's that's Uh, that's
a shame, that really is. Would

1334
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:25.039
you like to know some more fun
facts. I don't think they're gonna be

1335
01:27:25.079 --> 01:27:28.479
fun, They're not going to hell. Yeah wait, David, don't call

1336
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:33.039
them fun facts, call them tasty
tidbit tasty tidbits. Oh yeah. So

1337
01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:38.000
this was John Spencer's last film.
He played General Slows in between its release.

1338
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:42.319
He died of a heart attack in
December, of a December Fifth of

1339
01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:45.560
Night. Yes, super fun facts. That shut up. It takes twenty

1340
01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:47.760
five minutes for Boyd to utter his
first sentence in the film, because that's

1341
01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:51.039
when he's talked to Jones. Yeah, that's true. Very loosely inspired by

1342
01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:55.279
the Donner Party of eighteen forty seven. Even though the ives backstory is very

1343
01:27:55.319 --> 01:27:58.640
similar to Alfred Packer, it is
kind of similar to Alfred Packer. Yeah.

1344
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:01.199
The original ending was suppose take place
on the roof of burning cabins,

1345
01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:04.279
but it was scrapped as Pearson Carlisle
figured out at this point they just wanted

1346
01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:06.880
to beat the hell out of each
other in the story. Okay, that's

1347
01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:11.439
fair enough. Yeah, I can
see that. I mean it is like

1348
01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:16.880
it is like this movie is like
the fight version of like a romantic comedy,

1349
01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:21.000
just cock teasing you all the way
through the film, Like the entire

1350
01:28:21.079 --> 01:28:25.119
movie, you're just waiting for them
to finally show down because remember the first

1351
01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:28.520
time they have their showdown, he
jumps yeah and runs yes, and that

1352
01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:32.159
showdown production ran out of fake blood. Oh my god, I believe that.

1353
01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:36.319
So Guy Pierce, a well known
vegan, had to do several takes

1354
01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:40.800
of him eating the lamb stew,
which was prepared by set caterer's very delicious

1355
01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:43.920
stew from what Robert Carlisle said,
so he would take a bite and then

1356
01:28:43.960 --> 01:28:47.239
immediately spit it out when Antonio Bird
called cut. I mean, I that's

1357
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:51.760
not that uncommon on movies anyway,
because people don't You have no idea how

1358
01:28:51.840 --> 01:28:55.359
many takes you have to do on
some of these movies. People eating food

1359
01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:59.119
and movies is crazy. So often
they're just spitting food out a take after

1360
01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:01.880
take, especially actresses, because they're
watching what they eat very closely. So,

1361
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:04.079
I mean, that's not shocking to
me. But I am surprised he

1362
01:29:04.159 --> 01:29:06.800
was a vegan. In nineteen ninety
nine, there weren't that many vegans yet,

1363
01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:10.720
not yet. No. Yeah,
So the final thought for Ravenous,

1364
01:29:10.920 --> 01:29:14.199
I am gonna give this a rent. It this is a very entertaining horror

1365
01:29:14.199 --> 01:29:15.720
film. May not be for everybody
because of the cannibal aspects to it.

1366
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:18.640
I mean it's it's a bleak film
with a lot of dark humor too.

1367
01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:21.800
It's not a family meal now,
no sarily. But to me, this

1368
01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:26.479
is a great adventure horror with beautiful
scenery, fun characters, and no one's

1369
01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:29.000
safe in this movie, which builds
up the tension even more. Yeah,

1370
01:29:29.039 --> 01:29:31.439
it keeps you guessing massively. Yeah, and the isolation aspect drives it forward

1371
01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:34.159
because you're isolated with a monster,
you know, and they know that you

1372
01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:38.079
know. And this is just an
underrated late nineties gem to man. But

1373
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:39.920
do you know that they know that? You know? Oh, they know

1374
01:29:40.039 --> 01:29:43.720
that. I know that you know. So you know how we always like

1375
01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:45.760
to end the show with a recommendation. I've got two this time around.

1376
01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:50.119
Okay. I went with horror westerns
and obvious one. First twenty fifteen's Bone

1377
01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:54.640
Tomahawk. Okay, I could see
that in the dying days of the Old

1378
01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:57.720
West, and elderly sheriff and his
posse set out to rescue their town's doctor

1379
01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:01.039
from a cannibalist at Cave Dwellers.
This is a very good movie, but

1380
01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:05.560
it's a slow burn and it is
very gruesome, extremely gruesome. Yeah,

1381
01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:09.760
you earn the pain that that movie
leaves you in. Yeah. And the

1382
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.239
other one I'm gonna give is one
I'm dying to show you and we need

1383
01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:15.159
to do it sometime soon. Curse
of the Undead from nineteen fifty nine.

1384
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:17.840
This is a black and white horror
western. It says, while Meladi is

1385
01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:21.520
claiming the lives of young women in
western town, a sinister gunslinger for hire,

1386
01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:25.319
Drake Roby, is really a vampire, and it's up to Preacher Dan

1387
01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:29.079
to save his town and his girlfriend. I would like to watch it.

1388
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.840
It's fantastic. It was one I
discovered from letterbox. I saw a couple

1389
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:34.079
of review it and that's how I
found out. About a couple years ago,

1390
01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:36.960
got a Keyno Blue ray and it
is phenomenal. Well, I'm about

1391
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:40.359
to blow your mind with my recommendation. Go ahead, No, you're not

1392
01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:43.039
gonna guess them. Okay, You're
never gonna guess these. Okay, Okay,

1393
01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:46.680
So number one, I'm gonna go
horror Western. Five Bloody Graves by

1394
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:51.479
al Adamson, good call. I
really like five Bloody Graves is cheesiest hell.

1395
01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:55.319
Al Adamson's movies are not high quality, yeah, but they are a

1396
01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:59.000
lot of fun. Yeah. It
is a nasty, brutal little Western,

1397
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:02.800
yes it is, and it is
it's charming in its way. And then

1398
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:08.239
my other recommendation, and I really
debated this, and that's why I know

1399
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Dave's gonna be like, what the
fuck? But Bones and All that's a

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01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:20.119
good call because Bones of It All
made me queasy with the cannibalism. Although

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01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:24.560
the romantic element is is you know, whatever, however you feel about it,

1402
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:27.720
I liked it. I liked it. So Bones and All is one

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01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:30.760
that I think would be a really
good pairing with this. It's a lot

1404
01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:33.520
more highbrow, and literally I couldn't
have gone more lowbrow and then highbrow with

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01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:38.479
my recommendations. But I think if
you want a movie about cannibalism, and

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01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:45.159
especially about cannibalism as a metaphor for
a desire to consume and a desire to

1407
01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:48.640
take and to give and all of
that, that move I think Ravenous makes

1408
01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:51.119
some really great points, and I
think that Bones and All makes a really

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01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:57.960
great point. So my recommendation is
the artsy fartsy bones and all. I

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01:31:58.039 --> 01:32:00.960
really, I really stand by that. I enjoyed it fine. I don't

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01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:05.680
know if i'd i'd watched it time. So that all being said, I

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01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:09.079
call it a rent it yeah,
rent it for me too? Yeah,

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01:32:09.279 --> 01:32:13.239
I think that. I mean,
if you're a horror nut, if you're

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01:32:13.319 --> 01:32:15.399
a nineties movie lover, because it's
a two thousand move, it's really nineties

1415
01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:20.920
movie a if you're a person who
loves unsettling movies, yeah, then it's

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01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:25.560
definitely for your collection. But as
a as a common moviegoer, this is

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01:32:25.640 --> 01:32:30.720
definitely an excellent curiosity to watch and
give a give a fair shake too.

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01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:32.760
And it's uh, you know,
we can't say this now because you've listened

1419
01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:35.119
to the show, but if you
can go in as blind as possible,

1420
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:38.520
that will be the best time you
have with it. Yeah. And usually

1421
01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:40.439
people have seen the movie or maybe
they have it. But you know what,

1422
01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:43.800
I found that a lot of people
value spoilers way less than we do.

1423
01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:45.920
I have really noticed that. Did
you know that they did that whole

1424
01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:48.319
study about trailers. People were like, what are the people the best of

1425
01:32:48.439 --> 01:32:51.439
a trailers? Are? Like?
Well, because when they show they show

1426
01:32:51.479 --> 01:32:56.159
people trailers and then show them the
movie. They respond most positively to what

1427
01:32:56.279 --> 01:32:59.319
they saw in the trailer being in
the movie. Yeah. And when I

1428
01:32:59.399 --> 01:33:01.680
heard that, I was like,
uh, because I you know me,

1429
01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:04.119
Like, you'll be like, bro, did you see the trailer for blank

1430
01:33:04.159 --> 01:33:05.800
movie? And I'll be like,
Dave, I already said I'd go see

1431
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:08.920
it. Yeah, that's my I'll
literally be like, I don't care,

1432
01:33:08.920 --> 01:33:12.560
I'm already. I don't send you
trailers anymore because either you a won't watch

1433
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:14.720
them or B we'll just catch them
in the theater. Most of the time,

1434
01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:17.760
I mean, occasionally if there's something
crazy we've been waiting for, but

1435
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:20.319
if it's just like some movie we
heard about and we already said, like,

1436
01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:23.800
we're gonna go see it, yeah, I'll be like I might watch

1437
01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:26.520
the trailer, I don't care.
I'm already I'm already gonna go see it

1438
01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:28.239
no matter what the trailer is.
Well, I mean, it brings a

1439
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:30.560
good point too, that how many
times have we seen trailers for movies and

1440
01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:31.239
we're just like, oh, that
looks like crap. We go and see

1441
01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:34.239
the movie and the trailer did it
the worst than justice possible. I mean,

1442
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:39.039
Taken is a great example that Taken
had the crappiest marketing ever. I'm

1443
01:33:39.079 --> 01:33:42.640
so glad the movie caught on anyway. Yeah, so ravenous my friends.

1444
01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:45.560
If you need something to chew on, yes, uh god, there are

1445
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:48.520
never enough canniba to warm you up
and just get you know, all the

1446
01:33:48.920 --> 01:33:53.119
good feelies of the winter and have
you know a big bull of stew that's

1447
01:33:53.159 --> 01:33:56.880
the way to do it. You
worry me? Yeah, I should all

1448
01:33:56.960 --> 01:33:59.720
right, So before we get out
of here, Before we get out of

1449
01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:02.600
here again, huge thank you to
everybody for your comments on social media,

1450
01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:08.800
on YouTube, on Instagram and everything
about my buddy Chicano. I really appreciate

1451
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:11.760
it. It's still pretty fresh as
we're recording this. It's only been a

1452
01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:15.920
week and my head is still spinning. Big love to Dave. Last week

1453
01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:18.560
when that all had happened, he
was like, hey, man, I

1454
01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:20.720
understand you want to do the show
or whatever. And I was like,

1455
01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:25.119
yeah, you're like, but if
you want, I'll come over. And

1456
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:29.039
we came over and we went and
saw a movie and just hung out for

1457
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:32.239
a minute and I was a fucking
wreck. So just thank you, man.

1458
01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:39.479
I appreciated a whole hell of a
lot. Also, if you're watching

1459
01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:44.079
this on YouTube. Please make sure
you're subscribed and like and comment. I

1460
01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:47.239
know it's so annoying, but if
you're a friend of mine, if you're

1461
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:49.520
a friend of Dave, if you're
a friend of the show or whatever,

1462
01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:54.239
you what have you, if you
leave a like and you leave a comment,

1463
01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:57.720
it'll make our video more discoverable.
And I know it's like it's full

1464
01:34:57.800 --> 01:35:00.279
the algorithm. Welcome to the world
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1465
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:03.800
movie loving friend if you love it. And also, Dave's been telling me

1466
01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:11.399
we've had some interesting development over on
TikTok and TikTok Patti Wack give it all

1467
01:35:11.399 --> 01:35:15.840
about. But yeah, if you
want to get a hold of us,

1468
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:17.000
if you want to recommend a movie, we have a lot of movies on

1469
01:35:17.079 --> 01:35:20.000
the dockets right there are fifty two
weeks in a year, which means we're

1470
01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:25.000
going to be reviewing at least roughly
fifty two movies in a year. Yeah,

1471
01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:27.520
it may be more, it may
be less, it depends. We're

1472
01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:31.439
open to suggestions. We're also open
to things where it's not solely one film.

1473
01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:36.560
We're open to versus potentially, we're
open to series reviews. We're really

1474
01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:41.000
just kind of still figuring out what
all we want to do on the show,

1475
01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:42.760
but at the end of the day, it's really whatever we want.

1476
01:35:42.840 --> 01:35:44.920
Yeah, it was the best part. We bullshit. Well, give us

1477
01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:47.000
a topic and we can do it. And if you finally, if you

1478
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:50.960
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1479
01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:55.760
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1480
01:35:55.960 --> 01:36:00.199
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1481
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:04.319
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1482
01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:10.359
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1483
01:36:10.359 --> 01:36:13.479
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1484
01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:17.000
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1485
01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:20.840
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1486
01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:24.720
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1487
01:36:24.720 --> 01:36:27.159
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1488
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1489
01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:33.279
a great collection of clips on there
right now, but we will always put

1490
01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:36.199
some more up for you. If
you got some influence or some MPs for

1491
01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:40.159
us. Yeah, we'll try at
least so until next time, guys,

1492
01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:44.960
we'll see you next Tuesday. On
Every Time, on Do You Well,

1493
01:36:45.079 --> 01:36:47.239
It's true, I know it.
On Do You Even Movie, We'll see bye,