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Sept. 10, 2024

Puppet Master 4 (1993) - My Ultimate Comfort Horror Film

Puppet Master 4 (1993) - My Ultimate Comfort Horror Film
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Henrique celebrates his birthday with Puppet Master 4 (1993), the deeply personal comfort-horror choice directed by Jeff Burr. Gordon Currie stars as young artificial-intelligence researcher Rick Myers, whose work attracts murderous Totems sent by the demon god Sutekh. When Andre Toulon’s animated puppets awaken, Blade, Tunneler, Pinhead, Six Shooter and the newly created Decapitron become unlikely protectors. Chandra West, Ash Adams, Teresa Hill and Guy Rolfe join the Full Moon Features ensemble.
The hosts explain how the fourth entry completes the franchise’s shift from sinister puppets to full-fledged heroes. Its laser weapons, rubber creatures, computer experiments and supernatural mythology make it feel like an R-rated children’s adventure despite its horror trappings. Henrique and David compare the first five movies, discuss the return of Toulon’s life-giving secret and clarify the battle between Sutekh’s Totems and the puppets instead of reducing the story to generic “demons versus dolls.”
Henrique’s birthday selection begins with a VHS tape his great-aunt Betty recorded for him containing Puppet Master 4 and 5. Watching that tape as a child made the series a source of comfort and helped lead him from an online Puppet Master community to filmmaker J.R. Bookwalter and his first professional film work. His remembrance of Betty—who shared movies, food and unconditional time—gives this episode an unusually intimate emotional center.
That connection eventually brought Henrique to Jeff Burr, whose Eddie Presley had already inspired his filmmaking. He recalls meeting Burr at a discouraging festival, giving him a screening disc and receiving thoughtful feedback; a friendship followed, and Burr later appeared in Henrique’s movie Making Out. Production notes cover the original plan to make parts four and five as one feature, their extremely short preparation period, Adolfo Bartoli’s prolific Full Moon cinematography and Puppet Master 4 being the last film Burr edited on 35mm.
Henrique calls Puppet Master 4 a personal buy but a stream for general viewers; David lands on rent-it with a stream-it caveat, and both encourage newcomers to sample the earlier chapters first. Their companion choices—Puppet Master 5, Dolls and Night of the Scarecrow—connect the sequel to living-toy horror and Burr’s wider career. The episode also preserves their enthusiastic theatrical reactions to Strange Darling and Blink Twice as a snapshot of the horror conversation when it was recorded. The result is a tribute to Betty, Jeff Burr and the movies and friendships that shaped Henrique’s creative life.
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In an hotel on Bodega Bay, a team of scientists

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will discover a secret beyond their imagination.

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For the moment, the secret of my magic and my

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puppets is safe.

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Maybe that's the formula Tuon wrote.

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About a power that a demon is showtime will kill

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to possess.

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The magic that gives my puppet's life was stolen from

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a tribe of ancient Egyptian sorcerers who priage their allegiance

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to the demon lords who take.

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Where too long stole from me, We must recover now.

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Their only hope lies in Andre two Lod's Deadliest Puppet.

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I Am with you, puppet Master, puppet Master for the

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birth of Deep Capatron.

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In a world where podcasts reign supreme, two Friends dare

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to ask.

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Do You Even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denoyer.

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Spoiler alert, Hello, my friends, and welcome back to a

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very special episode of Do You Even? Movie. I'm, of

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course your host Enrique Kuto here with my good co host,

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my good buddy. I want to call you a good

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co host. You're my good buddy, but you're just an

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average co host. David Denoyer as he will be called

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from here on out Davy boy himself treating and I

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am by the time that this airs, which would be

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on it'll air literally on my birthday birthday, September tenth,

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I will be thirty eight years old.

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Happy birthday.

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Well thanks, where's my gifts?

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Oh you'll know, you'll know this is the way by

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the time time. But by the time you all are

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hearing this, he will have gotten his gift. And I'm

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sure he'll talk about it on next week's show, or

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at least i'm sure it'll be there.

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I'm sure I'll have a lot to complain about.

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Problem.

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This sucks. It smells like feces. Why was this given

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to me?

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You have no idea, and I don't know. I can't wait.

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So we've had quite an eventful day, Yes, yes we have.

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This is not the normal kind of do you even

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movie recording day? Dave got his second root canal.

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This is not a bit.

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I have literally have gotten two root canals this week.

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But I know what you're thinking, if you only know

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about root canals from movies and TV sitcoms. Yeah, you

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think a root canal is a very very very painful procedure.

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That is a misnomer. It is a root canal. The

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reason people think of root canals and a lot of

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pain is because root canals generally relieve a ton of pain.

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So when somebody says I'm going to get a root canal,

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they're already suffering. The root canal stops the pain.

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I had a bunch of people that were like telling

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me about dry socket, like, you know, preventions and whatnot, and.

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That's only if the tooth comes out.

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Yeah, that's extraction, which I have unfortunately had.

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Oh me too, This one's after market.

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Dry socket is no freaking joke. I've luckily never dealt

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with it, but I had a couple of friends who did,

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and it sounds awful.

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And the only people who deal with dry socket are

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like your girlfriends and stuff like that.

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You know, hey, no.

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But but that being said, yes, you were a little

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nervous at first because you had your first one two

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days ago and then this one. But there was one

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shining voice of reason telling you it probably will barely hurt,

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like it'll probably be like this much soreness, and it

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was just it was just great because you got it done,

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and then you got home and you realized how it

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was yeah, fully, and then your next text was all right,

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I'm getting one on the morning of Thursday. You want

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to just get together, watch movies and do the show.

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Because that's how this came about, was because originally I

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was going to get one on what was going to

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be the twenty ninth, and then do my second one

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on September tenth, and then yeah, it was so it

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was going to be on your birthday, and unfortunately there

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was nothing I could do about because I was on

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a waiting list.

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Right right, No, no, no, no.

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Further details of that, but anyway, my dentist called me

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last week and was like, was like, hey, is there

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any chance we could get you on Monday? We got

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some scheduling conflict and I was like, yeah, let me see.

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So then I was able to book them on the

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same week, and I even on the phone call with

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the end of the I can't think of the.

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Exact name for the dental technician.

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Dental technics called that. Even with that phone call, I

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was like, is it wise to get them? Because I

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had one on opposite sides of the mounth one that

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was on my top.

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The amount of swelling from both at once would be

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pretty annoying.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, So I even asked him. I was like, is

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it wise to get them that close together there? Like,

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oh yeah, it's fine, like it should be okay if

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it was an extraction.

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No you need a week. Yeah, but yes that was rucno.

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So yeah, we ended up being able to not only

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move off of your birthday so that we can do

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stuff today while people are listening to this.

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But on top of that.

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Too, we were able to make Thursday today because I

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took work off. We make it a double feature.

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We made it a movie day. We went to the

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cinemama and we saw.

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What was Strange Darling.

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We saw Strange Darling first, which is just its second

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week in the theater, and it was hard to catch.

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We caught the what was it the ten forty am Show.

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it was like a four fifteen and then like a

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ten to twenty five am.

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For whatever reason, well, I think part of it was

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my theater I live closer to where there's a lot

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of Indian population. Yeah, and they show a ton of

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Indian movies. And I think that might have had something

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to do with it. Because in Hubert they were showing

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a ton of a ton of them. Okay, but we

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got to catch it. I will say, strange darling freak,

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an awesome movie. Yeah, completely sets you up to think

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it's going to be one thing that's very predictable and

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then turns out to be something completely different.

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If the If there's one piece of advice that I

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can give is go in as blind as you can

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with this movie.

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But do open your eyes to watch the film. Yes,

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the sound is good, but it's not as good as

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the visuals because it's shot up thirty five millimeter. No, no, no,

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I don't in I don't inherently have a problem with

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making films in twenty twenty four on feature film on

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thirty five millimeter film. That's not my problem.

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Yeah.

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I loved Cuckoo. It might be one of my biggest

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horror films of the year for me personally. That was

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shot on thirty five millimeter film. But you know what,

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it didn't have a big title screen at the beginning

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of the film that says shot entirely on.

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This thirty five thirty five millimeter film. Shot entirely entirely

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on thirty five millimeter film.

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Because I literally we were alone in theater by whoa

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when it showed up screen, like, yell, whoa the screen.

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But it was really good, so oh it was a

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great flick. Yeah, yet really enjoyed it. Then we took

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a little hour break back up.

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Sorry off strange darling. You might want to mention who

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the cinematographer is.

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Oh, Giovanni Ribisi, the actor.

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The man who's known for getting silently stabbed in the

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Saving Private Ryan If.

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Yeah, Yeah, he's a great actor. I will say that

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I enjoyed the film, but because they put that big

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shot on thirty five millimeter film thing at the beginning,

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I leaned over to you every time a shot was

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out of focus and said something, And I counted six

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times that I believe it was sincerely out of focus,

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not not a little out of focus or like I

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might have been confused six times. And I wouldn't have

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given a shit about that if they just hadn't mentioned

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up there. But this was his first feature film as

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a cinematographer.

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Where seems very promising something he's been dabbling in. Yeah.

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He actually appeared on another podcast, The Movies That Made

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Me with the Joe Dante and Josh Olsen recently and

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he's talking about British cinematographers that he favors. So he's

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been watching a lot of cinematography stuff up close and all.

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So was doing some shorts from what you said, he.

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Did a bunch of shorts. From what I could tell. Yeah,

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to me, bragging about shooting on film is about as

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cool as bragging about how expensive your car is. It's like, oh, well,

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this wasn't I didn't arrive in a cameray. It's like, okay,

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because they all will get you there. Yeah, And I

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know people like, what about the aesthetic? What about the aesthetic?

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Is a toilet made of gold better than a toilet

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made of porcelain? Maybe I don't know why I chose

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a toilet, but I stand even ten minutes of the episode,

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and there's already been I think at least two to

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three rants. Well, but I love the movie. I just

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hate that attitude because as a filmmaker, as that is

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my day job, one of the things I hate about

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filmmaking is how impossible it was to make an independent

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film when you were from any background that has less

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until about fifteen years ago, to make a film that,

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in my opinion, could compete visually you could make a

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movie on VHS, but it would never compete visually, no

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matter how well you lit it. Yeah, you could make

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a film on DV it would never compete visually. You

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could compete story wise, yeah, but you could never compete visually.

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I mean, just look at like Chuck and Buck. Just

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look at Tadpole phenomenal movies. Yeah, they don't look like

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feature films. They look like videotape. But they're excellent pieces

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of april. Yeah they're great, but they look like camquarders.

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But then when the digital revolution came to DSLR, we

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had interchangeable lenses on video. All of a sudden we

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could start to kiss what a feature film looked like

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in the indie world. And now we're at a point

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where this room we are recording in right now, I

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haven't been cutting the cameras because I'm being because it's

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my fucking birthday. But these three cameras that we do

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just our video podcast on our cinema quality to an extent.

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And I know some people are gonna be like, well,

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they're not really, Well, where's your movie, show me yours,

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show me your feature film. I've made films on cameras cheater,

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cheaper than these, and sold them to all the major

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services in America. And right here a camera we're not

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even using that I just have stored. Here is a

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full powered Sony cinema camera. Yeah, that's what I make

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my day job stuff on. I am not from incredible means.

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When I was young and it was time to discuss

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me potentially going to film school, my mother would have

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had to consider taking a mortgage on our home, not

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for tuition, for the cost of the film because I

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was just old enough that that colleges were not allowing

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you to shoot on video at all. And I understand

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why because there's there's no art at that time, there

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was no art to the cinematography. But I mean there was,

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but you know what I mean. But I instead went

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out and just made DV movies. I made Marty Jenkins

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The Vampire Bitches on DV. I made Faces of Shock

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dot Com. Yes, I made that on what's called h DV.

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That's insane.

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It was amazing when it was happening. Now people would

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be like, oh yeah, seven to twenty p. I agree,

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Do you Even movie? Will be right back, welcome back

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to do You Even movie.

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My point is great film. Yes, I just hate that attitude.

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I hate that attitude.

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It just so much.

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It took us out of the film for just that

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split with you. That's why we joked about it. Was

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because it was just like, fucking really.

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Because it's pretentious. Yes it is. It's just it's pretentious. Now,

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it's one thing to have your movie be great and

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look good and sound good and be entertaining like Cuckoo did.

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And then at the end it mentions like shot on

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Eastman Kodak thirty five millionaire film. Yeah. I was like, oh,

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because when I saw it, I was like, oh wow, okay,

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so it wasn't filters, they just shot the same film.

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But I'm not going to applaud like a mouth agaped

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seal because you did something slightly harder when you had

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four million dollars to work with, big whoop. Now call

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me when you're making the movie for six grand. It's

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eighty minutes and it's on thirty five millimeter, and I'll

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go holy shit, I want to see how you did that.

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Yeah, but it's fair.

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But if you're making it for millions of dollars, it's

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like sure. I mean I if I had one hundred

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thousand dollars to work with, I could just make it

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on thirty five.

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Yeah, it'd be a.

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Little hard, but it wouldn't be impossible anyway.

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But strange Darling highly recommend really loved it.

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Yes, so, but then we saw and it just came out.

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Yes, we saw blink twice.

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Oh, he got it right. Dave was calling it, don't

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blink all day.

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Let's been don't blink blink twice has been the thing

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that I've been going back and forth.

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The best was I was it was we were riding

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in the car and you're like, don't blink. I'm like,

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actually twice, No, it's don't blink it. I'm like, I'm

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buying look at this. And then you got me doing

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it a little bit. That also so the feature film

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directorial debut of Zoe Kravitz Rabits, who is what's his name,

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Landy Kravitz, Lenny Kravitz. I want to get Away, I

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want to away American woman. Yeah, she directed the film.

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I enjoyed it quite a bit. It got a little

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weak in kind of the later part of the middle,

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but holy shit, did it plant that ending.

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I would say, beginning of the third act a little rough,

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I think, I think that's what we said we were

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walking out.

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But that ending is so strong.

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And it's so rare. I'll see a movie and be like, wow,

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I lost me for a but that ending killed it. Yeah,

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so that's big praise. I really enjoyed it. I recommend

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watching Oh it didn't come out this week, it came

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out last week, two weeks.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but I really recommend watching Blink twice. It was great.

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It was a lot of fun. I mean, a great ensemble.

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One of the best reviews that is not very spoilery,

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but it is. If you've seen the movie for humor

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that I read on letterboxes, don't worry, darling, the men,

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don't worry the menu, darling, get out.

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It has that. It has that vibe of the elevated

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horror films where people go away somewhere. Yeah, it definitely

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has that going for it.

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It's a lot of fun, though keeps you guessing until honestly.

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It gave us like four really solid earned twists at

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the end. Yeah, it never did a twist and we

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were like, wow, that's a cop out.

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Yeah.

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No, every twist it was like that makes sense, and

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then the next one would be like that makes sense too, Yeah,

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and then the final twist you're like, damn that makes.

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Sense, and that ending you're just like, damn it.

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I've got I got little chills from thinking about the ending.

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The ending was so good, so good, I can't recommend

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it enough. So before we get into my birthday pick, yes,

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which no one saw coming.

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No, we didn't even get We gave no hints except

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I think.

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I said it was you didn't see it coming?

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Oh yeah, I tried.

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How surprised were you?

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Fifty fifty? I would say, you would.

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Have never guessed I was gonna pick puppet Master for.

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No, but I a Berflick was on the on the

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spectrum motion option I think, so that was not It

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wasn't the one I would have picked by any means,

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but yeah I did. I did see a Jeff burrpick

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being in there somewhere.

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Well, before we get to that, speaking of films that

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are getting ready to come out, Dave has treated us

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to Beetle Joe Juice, Bee Beetle, Joe's Beetlejuice, Haunted Apple Fantata.

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So let's try a taste of the soda company founded

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by Nazis. I don't know if it was actually founded

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by Nazis, but it was founded in Germany to compete

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with Coca Cola when they stopped selling to Germany in

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World War Two.

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I actually really like it, Pinky's up. It definitely tastes

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like like candy apple.

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Whoa, whoa, that's weird. But it's got some like the

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spice is really strong. Yeah, I mean spices in spiced

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apple or spiced pumpkin spice, not like spices in like

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what I cook with daily.

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But it tastes better than the Mountain Dew one that

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they had a while back that was apple.

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You know what this tastes like. It tastes like spiced cider,

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but with caramel caramel, which is unusual.

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It doesn't taste like a pop.

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It doesn't taste bad. But this is not I was

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expecting just a green apple soda and this is not

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green apple. It's way more Halloween fall flavor.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it tastes like a cider with the caramel with it. Yeah,

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that's so good.

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It's pretty good.

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I don't hate it so sick.

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Soffeine free. Oh thank god, so U. This week we're

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going to talk about nineteen ninety threes or maybe it

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came out four O. Nineteen ninety three is pump Master four,

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directed by Jeff Burke. Correct a film that I chose

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because I had car tape blanche.

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As they say, as the birthday, as the.

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Birthday boy to pick any film I wanted, and people

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were guessing, including you. People thought it was gonna be

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Monster Squad or Terminator two or Eddie Presley, another Jeff

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Burr film, and I, to be honest, I dreaded picking

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it because I've been I've been dealing with a lot.

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My girlfriend is moving in right now, and believe it

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or not, this is gonna be a shock, moving, stressful, crazy. Yeah. Yeah,

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it turns out a whole other kind of moving is

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moving someone into your already space, very very challenging. It's

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going fine other than the usual stressors.

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Yeah.

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But on top of that, I am and I'll go

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into detail someday when I have no other rant to do,

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but I am currently working on finding the right medication

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for my ADHD. I got diagnosed at thirty seven years old.

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It has been a good journey, but it got a

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little weird recently. Yeah, I don't really want to go

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into it.

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We don't have to.

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But I suffered from what you might call mania from

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the first medication they gave me. And that was after

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three weeks of joy of like really good feelings and

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getting lots done, and people were even mentioning in comments

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and stuff how much more active and engaged I was

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in the last few episodes because I was I wasn't

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on adderall or viv ance. I would admit if I

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was taking amphetamines because I have a hilarious joke about amphetamines,

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but right now I am not on any stimulants. So anyway,

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but that's been also keeping me very busy, so on

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top of getting ready for October, which is just the

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busy seasons of my other podcast as well as this one.

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So with all that said, we're so far in and

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we haven't talked about the film yet. I want you, David,

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to start for once, uh huh and tell us how

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you first saw the film, and then I'm going to

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tell you the story, hopefully a story that won't take

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the entire show, but a very important story to me.

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Okay, So I first came to puppet Master series, not

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just four, but the series in college because I went

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through a phase that late. Yeah, I went through a

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phase of the Mill Creek collections, like once I found

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out how cheap or maybe there's Echo Bridge echo.

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Bridge, I think it was echo Bridge.

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That sounds right, Yeah, Echo Bridge Collections, which for those

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not not aware, Echo Bridge is a company that put

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that licenses a bunch of stuff.

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Yeah, they do discount they do discount DVDs and and compilations, collections.

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Never seen where it's like, you know, Catherine Heigel in

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the movie, Oh damn, what's that movie called? I can't

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think of it now, But like they would use pictures

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of stars on the films that that had nothing.

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To do with well.

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They also they also occasionally put out bigger stuff like

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Halloween's Halloweens and stuff like that that yeah, yeah, and

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they were really most famous for being the discount box

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set company. Yeah you get these four movies or get

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these eight movies or what have you.

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So exactly how it was because puppet Master I'm pulling

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it up right now. I think puppet Master was like

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the first nine films, six or nine films, I want

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to say, I.

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Would say seven was usually what got put together.

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Yeah, I'm just checking it. Okay, here it is yep,

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uh first nine movies?

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Yeah wow, what year.

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Did that come out? Then that should be in the

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info down below. He's looking at Amazon.

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Shut up on you.

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I mean what you're doing. You're doing the research. Twenty twelve.

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Yeah that late.

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Yeah, that's why I didn't know about that release. Yeah,

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so because well I know exactly very young.

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Why I got that release though, too, is because in

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a lot of echo bridges is because I was working

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at FYE at this point.

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So a video store for those who don't have.

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A Sun Coast all those places. I was working at

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FYE at this point. And my discount when it came

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to that five dollars in below bit oh sure, oh

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yeah I could. I could go home with a stack

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of twenty and I've spent five dollars based.

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Yeah that sounds right.

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So I was picking those out because I mean some

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of those like that was the where Curtains appeared first.

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Was Curtains was on a freaking echo bridge.

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Oh yeah, Well, some of those films that get remastered

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by the bigger companies. Yeah, are actually and I'm not

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going to say which ones because I don't know. I'm

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not a lawyer. Yeah, but a lot of them are

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actually public domain. Yeah. So places like Echo Bridge or

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Mill Creek or whatever may put out a version, but

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that then it becomes a competition for places like snap

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shout whatever to put out the best best version.

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Well, because I remember when I mean off topic, but

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Lionsgate Andy was hunting them down. I know a lot

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those lions Gate collections that came out that had like

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wax Work, the Unholy.

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It was right after they it was right after they

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bought Artism, Yes, because Artisan had all those old Vidmark titles,

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so all those.

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Mark tites were now. So I digress.

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So I got that collection, and I remember there were

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there were days that I had off of work, obviously,

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but then also with lining up with the being on

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break from college, I would just do movie marathon, sometimes

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with my roommates, sometimes with friends, or sometimes just by myself.

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And I'd never seen by himself most of but myself,

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I'd never seen any of the puppet Master films.

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That's so wild. Had you seen the Boogeyman collection?

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At least i'd.

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See the tunnel scene of them drilling and whatnot. So

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I've seen that, and I probably had seen, you know,

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various clips and scenes of them on sidelight growing up.

472
00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.440
Boogeyman was this collection that was released into Blockbuster video,

473
00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.079
The Killer Cop, and it was just a best of

474
00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:24.720
death scenes from maje mainstream horror movies and also puppet

475
00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:26.240
Master first one.

476
00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:31.200
Yeah, but so I I remember the first two not

477
00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:33.440
hitting me like I expected them to.

478
00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:33.920
Really.

479
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:35.519
Yeah, I love the second one.

480
00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:38.200
I think the second one's great now for some reason.

481
00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:40.240
One and two when I first watched them, I guess

482
00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:42.880
I expected more off the wall, like Gore or something.

483
00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:44.920
Yeah, they're pretty understated, they're pretty tame.

484
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:47.319
So then when we get to three, which is a

485
00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:48.160
lot of fun.

486
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:52.920
Yeah, it's just higher budget Nazis getting slaughtered by dolls. Yeah,

487
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:54.880
that's that's the kind of thing you like, if you

488
00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:56.079
like that kind of thing, Because.

489
00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:57.319
Three is where we start to see them as as

490
00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:58.119
basically the good guys.

491
00:23:58.119 --> 00:23:59.160
They become good guys in that one.

492
00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:01.279
Yeah, four though they're full on good guys.

493
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:03.559
Yeah. Well, and and in the marketing of pup Master

494
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:08.880
three had actually said bad puppets go good good, Yeah,

495
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:09.799
do you Even?

496
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:20.440
Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do You

497
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:24.400
Even movie?

498
00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:27.319
For the four and five they become good, So I

499
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:30.599
was I remember those sticking with me most so four especially.

500
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:32.200
I remember sticking with you though, because I was aware

501
00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:34.240
of Jeff Burre at that point, because I'm pretty sure

502
00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:37.440
you had given me Eddie Presley either that same thing.

503
00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:39.119
That's guarantee you before, that's guaranteed.

504
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:41.039
So I was aware of Jeff Bursa when I realized

505
00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:42.440
he was done, he had done four and five. That's

506
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:43.839
kind of how I got into him a little bit more,

507
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:45.599
along with Eddie Presley. But yeah, that's how I first

508
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:47.759
saw them. I was never a big puppet Master fan,

509
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:50.200
and I still really am not, but I enjoy them

510
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:50.720
for what they are.

511
00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:51.880
Sure that makes sense.

512
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.440
So what is your story though?

513
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:59.160
Well, hmmm, this is a lot. And I don't know

514
00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:02.720
about you, Dave, but when I turn a year older,

515
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:09.799
I spend all of my time looking forward. That's something

516
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:13.200
I've always been like. I'm not a big dweller. I

517
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.960
love to see what comes next. Ye, It's why I

518
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:20.839
started a business, It's why I started podcasts because I

519
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:24.279
want to see can you do something? Where will it go?

520
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.599
How's it going to happen? But when I turn a

521
00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.400
year older, I often take a moment and I look

522
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:39.000
back and I don't even know how I'm gonna talk

523
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:47.079
about it. So, man, it's really hard. When I was

524
00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:51.319
a boy, when I was a little boy, we bought

525
00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:53.640
a house and it was such a big deal to

526
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.279
get out of the situations I had grown up in,

527
00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.480
and buying a house is the biggest deal in the world.

528
00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:01.920
But the house a ton of work, and my mother

529
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:05.480
hated that part. I hated that part. I'm like nine ten.

530
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:09.559
But the thing that made me love coming to that

531
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.279
house was that we would live near my aunt Betty. Yeah,

532
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:16.119
my great aunt Betty, who was my grandmother. Basically she

533
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:18.400
was always there for me and my sister and my mother,

534
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.799
and I could walk to her house. Which was the

535
00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.400
biggest like of moving to that neighborhood was that I

536
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:29.200
could walk to her house in twenty five minutes. So

537
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.920
I started visiting her all the time because it used

538
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:34.759
to be only saw her on holidays and stuff like that.

539
00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:40.680
And Betty had the biggest, the biggest satellite dish. This

540
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:44.119
was back before direct TV. If you had a satellite dish.

541
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.759
It was giant and it pulled everything down and it

542
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.000
was expensive. But Betty loved watching her TV. And my

543
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:54.680
uncle Charlie, her husband, he was a tech guy. He

544
00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:59.000
was crazy for technology. Yeah, so they had this big

545
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:04.640
satellite and Betty would habitually tape everything.

546
00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.920
I understand, and she would just give.

547
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:11.039
Me tapes because she had a wall right next to

548
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:18.759
her recliner of tapes she taped. And one day, I

549
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:21.759
don't remember when exactly, she gave me a tape and said, now, Rick,

550
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.880
I think you'll lack this. I took it home and

551
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:29.960
on the label in pencil she always used to pencil,

552
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:35.640
just said puppet Master four and five. It's probably ten

553
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:40.599
eleven years old. Never heard of it. Put the tape

554
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:46.640
in and I loved it. I had. It was so fun,

555
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:50.319
and of all of the puppet Master movies, four feels

556
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.640
although it's not appropriate for children, it feels the most

557
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.400
like a kid's movie. It's got the big suited monsters,

558
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:00.400
you know, giving exposition about like I will just destroy

559
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:04.200
the puppet Masta. And it has the fun scenes with

560
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.440
laser guns and robots, and it's got sci fi, it's

561
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:11.000
got fantasy it's got horror. Yeah, I loved it, and

562
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:13.039
it was an extended play tape. It looked like shit

563
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.319
for those who are reasonably younger. VHS tapes used to

564
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.559
have a setting where in standard play it was two

565
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.880
hours long and looked okay, that's what you would buy

566
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:27.319
at the store. Extended play gave you six Actually I

567
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:31.599
am correct myself. I want to know it was it.

568
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:34.359
Was a six hour No, no.

569
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:38.880
I correct myself. It was LP limited, which made it

570
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.519
four hours, and then there was extended play which was

571
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.079
six hours, and LP ended up not being supported by

572
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.880
later players. It was basically just sp or EP. I

573
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.359
watched that tape a bunch. I thought it was awesome,

574
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:57.400
and Betty fed so much of who I am in

575
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:02.759
a weird way. I lost her in twenty twenty one

576
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:10.160
and I miss her every day. But she was always

577
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.559
so great and she didn't just teach me to like

578
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:16.039
movies or whatever. She taught me how to love people.

579
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:26.440
You know. There was always food at her house, and

580
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:29.440
I learned that that's how you love people. You feed

581
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.119
them and you spend time with them. And I used

582
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:36.960
to drop by her house unannounced into my thirties, and

583
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:42.079
I remember she used to just call me and she'd

584
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.680
be like Rick, and I'm like in my thirties, Rick,

585
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:46.960
I made some spaghetti sauce, and I'd really like it

586
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.519
if he came and take some off my hands, and

587
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:51.920
I'd come over and I would leave with these giant

588
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:58.000
containers of spaghetti sauce, sometimes in tubberware, sometimes in country.

589
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:01.359
She was from Hazzard, Kentucky, and you can take the

590
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.319
lady out of Kentucky, but you can't take the Kentucky

591
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.720
out of the lady and true Briar Hopper. And I

592
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:14.319
loved her with all my heart. So I miss her.

593
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.359
But that's not the end of the story. And because

594
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:23.119
it's my birthday, I'm gonna light this cigar. This is

595
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:29.640
Los Calaveras. These are special. For as long as time

596
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.319
has gone on, tobacco has been a ceremonial thing for

597
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.839
many people all over the world. This cigar is made

598
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.240
to smoke when you remember people who are gone, like

599
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:45.599
the Calavaras, the sugar skull of the day of the

600
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:53.799
day deal as Marcos So puppet Master, loving puppet Master.

601
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.640
I went to the stores, I rented the other films.

602
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:02.000
I thought they were all pretty bitching. I enjoyed them.

603
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.720
So that led me to a message board about puppet Master,

604
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.039
which led me to meeting j R. Bookwalter, which led

605
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:10.440
me to my first job in film, which led me

606
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:23.200
to so many things. So God, that's really good. So

607
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.559
from there, working with Tempe Video with Jared Bookwalter, I

608
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:30.960
did some work for him. I discovered Eddie Presley, which

609
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:36.440
we came in. The movie that really inspired me to

610
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.240
truly want to be creative and make movies. And it

611
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.720
was directed by coincidentally, Jeff Burr, the director of puppet

612
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.839
Master four. That is correct a film I watched again

613
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.000
and again and again, and then I watched Eddie Presley

614
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:56.759
again and again and again. So some years go by

615
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:03.519
and I am in Kentucky at a horrible film festival

616
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.400
where they showed my movie in an empty room, a

617
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.920
room with three people including me and my cousin. Ye,

618
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.599
not even a projectionist in the room. And afterward I

619
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.759
felt pretty shitty. But there was a guest at the

620
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:20.720
show and it was Jeff Burr. Now, prior to this,

621
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.480
I had met Chuck Williams, one of the producers on

622
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:25.640
Eddie Presley, and I had met Dwayne Whitaker, who I'm

623
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:28.759
still friendly with Dwayne's a great dude who played Eddie

624
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.839
Presley and wrote the screenplay. But I had never met Burr.

625
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:37.960
He just was never around. So I said, fuck everything,

626
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.119
I'm having a rough time. I had a bad time.

627
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.119
I'm getting in line for Jeff Burr's table. I'm buying

628
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.839
another copy of Edie Presley already have three. I'm buying

629
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:47.680
another one just because I want him to sign it.

630
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.599
Oh yeah, he signs it and as he's excells it

631
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.759
to me, and as he's signing it, he's like, now

632
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.519
you know what you're buying, right, And I'm like, this

633
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:57.960
is one of my favorite movies of all time. And

634
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:01.240
he looks at me like dead. He's just like really,

635
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.400
And I literally went well. The opening scene where he

636
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.680
puts where he wakes up in the van and eats

637
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.440
a cheeto and then washes it down with a cigarette

638
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:13.599
is possibly one of the saddest and funniest things I've

639
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:18.279
ever seen. And his face lights up and for forty

640
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:23.519
minutes we talk, and Burr was very special to me, Yeah,

641
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.400
because he at this point I had made two feature

642
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.680
films as a director, and one of them was screening

643
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.599
at that show. It was Bleeding Through actually just talking

644
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.640
about Burr starts saying, what about you? What do you do?

645
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.200
What do you do? What do you? What are you about?

646
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:39.759
So I tell him I made a movie and he's like,

647
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:41.960
where can I see it? And I was like, uh,

648
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.200
I mean I could, I could. I could send you

649
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.480
a copy and he's like, all, I'd love to watch it.

650
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:52.440
So I gave him the disc that they screened Bleeding

651
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:56.160
Through off of h and we said our goodbyes. He

652
00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:02.519
went home. I went home. Got an email week later, Hey, Babe,

653
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:06.440
always call everybody babe. Hey, babe, really dug your movie?

654
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:09.199
Felt like it had a lot to say. It seemed

655
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:10.400
like you didn't have a lot to work with, but

656
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:14.239
you really did your best. I enjoyed it, and tell

657
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:17.960
me when you got more coming. So we met over

658
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.119
the years many times at conventions and festivals. Every time

659
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.920
I made a new movie. He asked for a copy.

660
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:26.679
He'd watch it immediately and tell me what he thought.

661
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:28.239
Hell yeah.

662
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:32.519
We became friends and it was crazy because this was

663
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.000
a person who had inspired me so much, a person

664
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:38.760
who made the movie on the tape that Betty gave me,

665
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:41.880
And it made me realize something that's really hard. It's

666
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:45.199
easier now than it was then. It made me realize

667
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.519
the world is not so big that I can't navigate it,

668
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.719
that I could maybe have a career even if I'm

669
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:56.480
in Ohio, a place that the coastal elite cunts will

670
00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:00.480
call a flyover state. More cows than people. Oh suck

671
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.880
my dick. Hey, I've seen it all. I lived on

672
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.079
the East Coast. I worked in this I've worked in

673
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:09.320
this business for fifteen, sixteen, seventeen fucking years. Yeah, I've

674
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.079
been full time for ten. And I'll tell you right now,

675
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.639
every time I've ever negotiated a contract with anybody in California,

676
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.599
their first thought is, Oh, this is gonna be an

677
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:19.800
easy negotiation, and then I ripped their goddamn eyes out

678
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.920
and get what I want. That's because my mom, though,

679
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:24.519
that's not because of Betty. Betty would have been Betty

680
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:26.320
would have been like, now, be polite. My mom would

681
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.800
be like, kill them. Yeah, so my mother's business person.

682
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.480
Yes, yes, do you even?

683
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:43.679
Movie will be right back, welcome back to do you even?

684
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:49.800
Movie? Burr was even in one of my movies called

685
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.000
Making Out, which you could watch on tub. It's a

686
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.199
romantic comedy and I wrote a role just for him

687
00:35:54.599 --> 00:36:00.400
because at that time John bow Jumpaul. At the time

688
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.800
he was living in Dalton, George's hometown. His mother, who

689
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:05.280
was very, very elderly, needed him, so he was taking

690
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.840
care of her. At this point, he was probably about

691
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.400
fifty early fifties. I drove down there met his mom,

692
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:14.400
which is one of the greatest moments of my life

693
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.159
because in her living room was a shrine to all

694
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:26.400
of the films he'd made, posters, postcards, video boxes, everything.

695
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.480
It was a wonderful thing to see. We filmed Jeff's

696
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.159
cameo took like three hours.

697
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.159
Stopp for a second. You should interject the story with

698
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:36.840
the cigar though about him leaving.

699
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:44.400
So he was playing a sleezy scumbag producer type and

700
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.360
as we're getting ready shoot, he's like, old babe, I

701
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.239
need one thing. I'll be right back. He walks out.

702
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.800
I hear his engine start and he drives off. I'm

703
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.000
in a house I've never been to with the owner

704
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:55.400
of that house, who I just met, and I'm like, uh,

705
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.480
and he's like, I don't know where Burr went. He'll

706
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:01.480
be back. Comes back. He went to a gas station

707
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.079
and grabbed a cigar so that he could have it

708
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.800
in his hand and charvelan while you talk, because he's like,

709
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:11.360
maybe it'll make the character believable. Yeah, and he's hilarious

710
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.519
in that movie. I gave him offensive lines and he

711
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.840
said them with joy. He was having a great time.

712
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.239
And when it was all done, the way Jeff has

713
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:24.159
always been, he was self deprecating. Jeff had Jeff for

714
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:26.119
those who don't know, and you'll find out all about

715
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:27.960
his career when Dave breaks it down. But he had

716
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.800
directed movies. I guarantee you've seen Texas Chainsaw, Massacre three,

717
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:36.280
Stepfather two. From a whisper to a scream. He directed

718
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:38.719
so many films. Yeah, and he directed some bigger movies.

719
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.800
I mean Texas Chainsaw three was a nationwide theatrical film

720
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:47.280
of a major franchise. Self deprecating his hell because he

721
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:51.639
always was trying to make the next thing happen. And

722
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.639
he turned to me after we're done. I was like, Jeff,

723
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:54.760
that was great, and he's like, hey, well you know

724
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.039
what I you know what I say. I gave you gold,

725
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.360
but you gotta mine it, which and I had to

726
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.760
edit around his cheesiness and flubs, but it was a joy,

727
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.039
So we kept in touch for years. We'd occasionally run

728
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:13.039
into each other, and last year, on October tenth, Jeff

729
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.119
suffered a stroke in his sleep and passed away. And

730
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:25.519
I still still don't believe it because i'd hear from

731
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.519
him maybe once or twice a year. So I still

732
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.320
feel like my email box is just gonna pop and say, hey, babe,

733
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.199
you know what he been up to. But he's gone.

734
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:45.880
And miss him a lot too. And when I watched

735
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.480
Puppetmaster four with you, my best buddy, my best movie buddy, especially,

736
00:38:52.559 --> 00:39:00.519
I felt cozy. I felt like I could with them

737
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:12.719
both again. And that's why I love movies, because there's

738
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:17.559
so much more than just sound and moving pictures. They

739
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:22.360
are who we are, who you were when you watched it,

740
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:26.760
who you watched it with, who made it. They're all

741
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:34.719
the same value. So I don't care. I'm sure the

742
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:39.000
IMDb score is like a two or three. On puppet Master.

743
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.280
Four it is five point one.

744
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:45.679
I'm shocked. Well shit, I look like an asshole, and

745
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:53.880
that's fine. But to me, those films will always mean

746
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:58.199
something special because they'll remind me of being a child,

747
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.239
they'll remember remind a family, and they'll remind me of friendship.

748
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.840
What more could you ever ask for from a film?

749
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:06.480
Absolutely?

750
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:19.239
So that, dear God, my friends, is why I picked

751
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:26.159
pup A Master four. So there's not much to talk

752
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.519
about about the movie, not really, but I wanted to

753
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:28.920
watch it.

754
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:32.920
The Birth of Decapatron, as I found out his subtitle

755
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:33.719
in the trailer.

756
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:36.199
Oh, now you want to bring up Charlie Bann's follies

757
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.000
to make you mean again? Huh?

758
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:42.000
Would you like to get into the details of the man,

759
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:43.320
the mit, the legend Jeff bur.

760
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:48.159
Though, David Hm, I would like nothing more.

761
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:49.480
Let's do it. So.

762
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.480
Jeff Burr gets his start in nineteen eighty seven as

763
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.679
a director on From a Whisper to a Scream aka Offspring,

764
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:58.920
the one that Enrique mentioned that stars Vincent Price. If

765
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:00.679
you have not seen From a Whisper to a Scream,

766
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.239
I cannot recommend it enough. It's a great anthology horror film.

767
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.239
It's a backwoods in the I mean swamp area.

768
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:10.760
The word that we often use for films like that

769
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.239
is regional regional, because it feels like it's not la

770
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:17.480
at all. It's it's regional shot in Georgia.

771
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:19.519
Down in dirty anthology.

772
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.239
I believe they shot portions of it in an old

773
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.880
carpet factory. Yeah, because Dalton used to be the carpet

774
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:30.199
capital of Georgia. And one of the best performances by Klugliger.

775
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:32.639
Absolutely, no, he is faunting, he.

776
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:39.159
Is unbelieve he's just unleashed in that film. Also, if

777
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.159
I'm remembering correctly, that was Darren Scott's the beginning of

778
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.039
his career, a guy who went on to do Tales

779
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.199
from the Hood a ton of other films I couldn't

780
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:48.880
name off the top of my head. Yeah, but Darren

781
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.679
Scott super cool dude. He said some very nice things

782
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.039
when I posted my thoughts on Jeff passing that I

783
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:58.199
was shocked that he even saw. But Darren went on

784
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.199
to be a very formidable filmmaker himself. Yeah, working with

785
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.840
Ernest Dickerson a lot and stuff like that. So that's

786
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.679
a really great film and one of the three films

787
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.639
that Jeff said he can praise his involvement with without

788
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:15.679
with the very what was it with very few caveats, Yeah,

789
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.760
that's what he used to say, very few caveats on

790
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.360
those on the It was that one Eddie Presley and

791
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:21.360
straight into Darkness.

792
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:23.800
Anyway, So from a Whisper to a Scream In nineteen

793
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:25.639
eighty seven, he's a writer and director on Then in

794
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.280
eighty nine he directs The step Father to make Room

795
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:29.119
for Daddy.

796
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:33.000
Which which turned out so well they went theatrical with

797
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.000
it when it was made for direct to video video.

798
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.880
And it's got Meg Foster and Jonathan Brandisonet.

799
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.079
And Carolyn Williams.

800
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.480
Yesext change from Texas Chainsaw two and a brief cameo

801
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:43.840
in his Texas chains Saw three.

802
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:45.880
That is correct, So you get a textaint Saw three

803
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:50.119
leather faced Texas chain Saw three. In nineteen ninety he directs.

804
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.599
Which I have always thought was extremely underrated by great.

805
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.599
One a lot of fun. Then he does Eddie Presley

806
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:55.480
in nineteen ninety two.

807
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.519
That's a film that everybody should hunt down and watch.

808
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.480
It's a little I think you can stream it now

809
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:02.599
if you pay.

810
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:05.239
Yeah, but it's a future episode as well.

811
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.760
Oh god, I mean it's too obvious to do it

812
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.360
right away. Yeah, but it's one of my favorite films

813
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:10.960
ever made.

814
00:43:11.239 --> 00:43:13.199
So then he lands The Land of the Lost series

815
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.000
in nineteen ninety two with the Chiota Brothers.

816
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.519
Mmmm. Yeah. He did a bit of TV here and

817
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:21.239
there because I know. He also it's probably in their

818
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.000
big bad Beatleborgs that was coming.

819
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.639
Pumpkinhead two Blood Wings. In nineteen ninety three, he directs.

820
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.920
Another hugely underrated one Yeah.

821
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.119
And then puppet Master four in nineteen ninety three, followed

822
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.239
by puppet Master five and ninety four and one thing

823
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:35.920
that we actually watched, Burr Special Future. He has an

824
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.760
interview on the Blu ray disc for five and he

825
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.000
actually mentions that in his filmography he does from a

826
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:44.119
Whisper to a Scream, which is one. Then he does

827
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.760
step Father two, which is a sequel and two, does

828
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.800
Texas Chainsaw three which is three, then does puppet Master four.

829
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.400
So he does a part one, a Part two, a

830
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:53.679
Part three, and a part four, just not in the

831
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:57.599
same franchise, that's correct. Yes, that's Burr for you though.

832
00:43:57.800 --> 00:43:59.760
So then in nineteen ninety five he also does Knight

833
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.760
of the Scarecrow, which we have a poster of right there.

834
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.199
It's right there and it'll never go anywhere now because

835
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.519
I miss him so much, and that poster reminds me

836
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.679
of of how how good he was even when people

837
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:14.800
weren't really paying attention. That one didn't get a lot

838
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.480
of love but that's a great film.

839
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.559
Well, and even mix Strawn, who we interviewed on the

840
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:23.360
Freddy's Nightmares podcast, wonderful thing. So yeah, yep, so that yeah,

841
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:28.079
and Riquet was right. In nineteen ninety six, Big Bad Beetleborgs.

842
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:33.599
Big Bad Beetleborgs his comment to comments that he made

843
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:37.360
to me on working on that show, where it was easy,

844
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.719
silly and good quick money.

845
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:40.599
I could see that.

846
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:42.440
I doubt it was that good. Yeah money, but I'm

847
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:43.360
sure it was quick money.

848
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.920
So then in nineteen ninety seven he directs Johnny Mistow

849
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:47.079
Boy Wizard.

850
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.519
One of several films he did for Full Moon in Romania.

851
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.800
Yeah, that he does spoiler. In nineteen ninety eight, have

852
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:55.519
you ever seen Sports?

853
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:55.920
I have not.

854
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.159
That is with Jeffrey Combs, who I wish I had

855
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.360
talked about Burwi Combs, but I didn't know that movie

856
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:01.800
at the time.

857
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:03.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

858
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.440
That's a really cool, weird sci fi movie. And to

859
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:07.320
be honest, I have no idea how it got made

860
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:10.320
because it seems it just seems like it didn't fit

861
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:13.159
the marketplace at all. But it was really fun. That's

862
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:15.400
a hard one. It's on my server that you dont

863
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:16.039
have access to it.

864
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.199
Well, all right, then I think I actually did add

865
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:20.440
to my watchlast and I think about it. The Werewolfrey

866
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.119
born in nineteen ninety eight, followed by Phantom Town in

867
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.079
nineteen ninety nine. Then in two thousand and four he

868
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.000
does a movie that you Turned Me on to, written

869
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:33.239
and directed on Straight Into Darkness, which is easily his

870
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.760
most underrated fat absolutely, I mean and what's even cooler

871
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:38.559
is From a Whisper to a Scream. One of the

872
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:41.079
stories in it kind of has a tease for it.

873
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.599
Yeah, he kind of expanded on some of the concepts. Yeah,

874
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.960
in From a Whisper to a Scream into Stream of Darkness,

875
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.480
it's a film about a group of war orphans during

876
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:55.760
World War Two who are protected by David Warner and

877
00:45:56.360 --> 00:46:01.360
they end up having to basically fend off a Nazi siege. Yeah,

878
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:03.079
and it is super good.

879
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.920
With the likes of Jack Frost, Scott McDonald.

880
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:10.039
And the short in From a Whisper to a Scream

881
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:12.960
because it's an anthology, was similar, but it was about

882
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:17.119
children who had been harmed in the Confederacy during the

883
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.000
Civil War, but they were ghosts, so it was a

884
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.159
bit different, but it had a similar vibe a lot

885
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.960
of the attitudes about like how war harms the children

886
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.760
and the children are innocent, which I really like.

887
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:30.880
I think I might have to go home and watch

888
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:32.440
the most for a scream tonight. It's been a while.

889
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:34.280
Yeah, I'm gonna watch pump Master five as soon as

890
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:36.599
you leave this house after I put this out right

891
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:36.880
on you.

892
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:38.519
So then we have The Boy with X Ray Eyes

893
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:40.960
in two thousand and five, followed by Devil's Den in

894
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.480
two thousand and six. Then he directs Resurrection in twenty ten,

895
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.440
followed by Tornado Warning in twenty twelve.

896
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:50.400
With Jeff Ahey, that's actually a really solid TV movie.

897
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.079
Then he does puppet Master Blitzkrieg Massacre.

898
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.599
In twenty eighteen. Well, no he doesn't, No, he doesn't.

899
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.719
They used footage from his movie movie Yes, So are

900
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:00.360
you okay? By the way, it seems like your throat

901
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:01.760
might be drying up from drinking soda.

902
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:02.639
It could be I don't know.

903
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.159
Tales Are the Fantastic in twenty twenty three, and that

904
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.559
was the last one because, as Enriquez said, he unfortunately

905
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.199
passed twenty twenty three October tenth from a stroke complication.

906
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:11.960
Complication.

907
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:16.800
Yeah, I when he passed. It was all over the internet.

908
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:18.559
People were just but it was not confirmed.

909
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:20.239
We were all trying to confirm that was That was

910
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.679
the shittiest part of it was it was just like

911
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:24.559
we kept bouncing from one person to the next.

912
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.519
Well, well, people were posting on Facebook, but they weren't

913
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:31.519
people that knew burd directly. I called him. He didn't answer, obviously.

914
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:36.079
So then I actually texted Dwayne Whitaker and said, dude,

915
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.639
people are saying Jeff passed. And Dwayne called me back

916
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:41.119
and was just like, here's what I think happened. I

917
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:42.760
don't want to I don't know if i'd want to

918
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:45.000
share it, but I mean, you know, he passed instid.

919
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:45.320
Yeah.

920
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:48.760
So so moving down to our writers, we have five

921
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:50.440
on puppet Master four.

922
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:54.280
Which is a sign of quality quality indeed, and we'll

923
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.039
get into that quality into the trivia when we get

924
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:58.159
to that at a section of the show.

925
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:00.639
Uh, I'm gonna go ahead and give rewrite off the

926
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.079
bat because they all have the exact same writing credits,

927
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:06.679
which is Todd Henschel, steven E. Carr, and Joe Duffy.

928
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.800
They were writers on puppet Master four and five, and

929
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:10.599
that's their resume.

930
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:13.239
I feel like Steve Carr is a fake name.

931
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:14.960
Probably it wouldn't surprise me.

932
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.559
Might be Ben Carr's fake name. Don't quote me on that. Yeah,

933
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:18.480
I don't know that for sure.

934
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:31.239
Do You Even Movie will be right back, welcome back

935
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.440
to Do You Even Movie?

936
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.199
So then moving down to our other writer, we have

937
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:39.119
Keith S. Payson.

938
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.519
He's a writer on puppet Master four and puppet Master five,

939
00:48:41.519 --> 00:48:44.280
but he's also a line producer on Doctor mordred Transfer's

940
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:48.440
three Robot Wars pre Hysteria, Remote Dollman Versus Demonic Toys,

941
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:49.920
and puppet Master four and five.

942
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:54.760
Literally some of the most excelsior of nineties full Moon.

943
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:57.119
Well, if you think that's crazy, uh oh, then we

944
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:01.719
have Douglas Aaron Aaron Kioski, Aaron he Oski. I can't

945
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:06.119
even say the last name, Aaron Okoski, Okosky.

946
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:08.519
Aaron Aaron, Oh wow, that is hard.

947
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:11.239
Aeron e o Koski Eroneokoski.

948
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.559
So he is a writer on puppet Master four, puppet

949
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.599
Master five and then Nurse three D in twenty thirteen.

950
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.400
Does the screenplay for that is a career. He is

951
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.800
also the director of Highlander in game Oh really yeah,

952
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.599
the Day from twenty sixteen, that post apocalyptic movie that

953
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.400
had Dominic what's his face?

954
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.639
And it was a WWE movie. I want to say, shit. Yeah,

955
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:36.880
he's the director of that Nurse three D.

956
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:38.800
What an area you have?

957
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:40.199
It also directs on.

958
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:44.280
The series Sleepy Hollow, Arrow, The Flash Limitless and American Gothic.

959
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:46.559
Now it makes a lot more sense. So he does

960
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:48.679
a feature here and there, but TV is where is

961
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.000
my bread is buttered? I'm really happy that he got

962
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.199
to not only write but direct Nurse three D because

963
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:55.320
whether you love or hate that movie, it's it's become

964
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.599
a cult classic. Yeah, so I'm happy for him that

965
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:01.079
he gets to make a horror film that everybody remembers exactly.

966
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:05.119
Moving down to our cinematographer, we have Adolpho Bartoli. He

967
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.800
starts in nineteen sixty one as a lighting tech as

968
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:09.840
on the Best of Enemies. Then he does the three

969
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.920
hundred Spartans in nineteen sixty two, Jason and the Argonauts

970
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.079
in sixty three from Rush with Love and sixty three

971
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.360
The Sound of Music in sixty five Grand Prix, the

972
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.480
Italian Job. Then he moves to assistant camera in nineteen

973
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.199
seventy two with My Horse, My Gun, Your Widow.

974
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:23.840
Which I love that title.

975
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:24.719
It's a great title.

976
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:29.400
Lucky Luciano in seventy three, Miracle Still Happens, Illustrious Corpses

977
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:34.719
a matter of time, Contamination, yes, contamination, the freaking knockoff movie.

978
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:37.000
What Italian movie?

979
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.480
Yeah, he's assistant camera on it. No shit, Yeah, nineteen

980
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.440
eighty does that. Then the same year he does Popeye.

981
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.599
Followed by you know where that was shot?

982
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:50.039
Uh, Malta, Malta, that's right, Italy.

983
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.199
So then he does The Loan Runner in eighty six,

984
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.280
followed by Iron Morgan eighty seven, moves into full cinematography

985
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.960
in eighty three, Savage Zone, Delta Force, Commando, Beyond the

986
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:00.960
Door three.

987
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:04.519
No, yeah, the fucking Psycho Train movie.

988
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.039
I love that crazy movie.

989
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:09.760
It was fun, followed by the Pitt in the Pendulum

990
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:11.360
in nineteen ninety one for Full Moon.

991
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.960
Probably probably how he got hooked up with them. I

992
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:15.519
think that was made in Italy. Yeah.

993
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:18.360
Transfers two in ninety one, Puppet Master three, two Lines,

994
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.039
Revenge in ninety one, Nether World in ninety two, Demonic

995
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.519
Toys in ninety two, Seed People, Bad Channels, Doctor Mordred,

996
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.280
Transfers three, Robot Wars pre Hysteria, doll Man Versus Demonic Toys,

997
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:32.320
puppet Master four, Transfer's four, Jack of Swords, Oblivion, Lurking Fear,

998
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:36.239
puppet Master five, Transfers five, Sudden Depth, Beanstalk, Demon in

999
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.079
the Bottle, Alien Abduction, Intimate Secrets, Head of the Family,

1000
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:43.519
Vampire Journals, The Creeps, Subspecies four, Bloodstorm, Planet Patrol in

1001
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.679
ninety nine, City of Fear in two thousand, Octopus in

1002
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:47.360
two thousand.

1003
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:54.400
Geez I thought mac Albert did an insane amount of

1004
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:58.360
Full Moon movie. Yes, but holy cool, like that's crazy.

1005
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:00.599
Queen's Messenger in two thousand and one, and She two

1006
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.679
thousand and one, Witness to a Kill two thousand and one,

1007
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:05.239
met in Miami, caved in the Prime Evils in twenty

1008
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.400
twenty three, and then he unfortunately passed June thirtieth or

1009
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.000
twenty twenty four, undisclosed of the death unfortunately.

1010
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:13.800
Well for the record, Prime Evils was actually shot in

1011
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:15.960
the late eighties and early nineties. That was David Allen's

1012
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.000
film that never got finished Hill finished. It just got finished. Yeah,

1013
00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:20.880
so that makes sense that he would work with David Allen.

1014
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.880
So, moving down to the IMDb synopsis, says, a young

1015
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:26.840
scientist and his friends, upon being attacked by demons, are

1016
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:29.480
protected by a gang of animated puppets.

1017
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:36.800
That's pretty accurate, mycenostils. It better be a folks. I

1018
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.400
gave like a twenty minute monologue about how much this

1019
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:40.239
movie means to me.

1020
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:42.440
So Dave, take it away.

1021
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:46.559
Thrill me when an artificial intelligence project created by a

1022
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.239
young scientist becomes the target of murderous creatures out to

1023
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:51.960
destroy his research. Help is found when a mysterious case

1024
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.519
of puppets come to life to help destroy the creatures.

1025
00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:03.320
David, that was really fucking good. Yes, no, that's a

1026
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.960
great description of it without getting a little too sci

1027
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.800
fi or whatever. That solid.

1028
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:09.079
No.

1029
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:11.679
I Unfortunately I don't have a cue for him to say,

1030
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.880
good job, David. I only have bad ones. Yeah, so sorry.

1031
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:17.760
Moving down to our cast, we have Gordon Kiriy who

1032
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:19.719
plays Rick Myers in this. He gets a start in

1033
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:22.559
nineteen eighty seven on twenty one Jump Street, Oh, Distant

1034
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:25.679
Thunder in eighty eight, Danger Bay in eighty eight, Cousins

1035
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:28.320
in eighty nine. Then he goes on to Friday the Thirteenth,

1036
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:30.719
Part eight. Jason takes Manhattan and takes a boat.

1037
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:33.440
Jason takes because our boy here did not make it

1038
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:33.840
off the boat.

1039
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:34.480
He didn't make over.

1040
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:36.159
A lot of the teens did not make it off.

1041
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:37.199
The very few of them did.

1042
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.000
Then he does American Boyfriends in eighty nine, My Blue

1043
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:41.199
Heaven in nineteen ninety.

1044
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:44.639
I think I remember him.

1045
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:45.320
I think I do too.

1046
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:48.719
Yeahah yeah, Tear Within two in nineteen ninety, The Killing Mind,

1047
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.679
The Hat Squad, Alive in nineteen ninety three.

1048
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.079
I do remember him being in Alive. That's the the

1049
00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:57.559
well not cannibal movie. But it's the movie about the

1050
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:01.760
uh uh not Brazilient. It's a soccer team. The soccer

1051
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:03.760
team get stuck in the andies and has to resort

1052
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:05.079
to cannibalism. It's true story.

1053
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:08.159
Great movie Murder, she wrote nineteen ninety three, followed by

1054
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:10.880
puppet Master at four in ninety three. Then he does

1055
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:14.039
Catwalk in ninety four, puppet Master five and ninety five,

1056
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:17.480
Falling for You in ninety five, Forever night Blood and Donuts,

1057
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:20.239
Beverly Hills nine h two, one oh and ninety six,

1058
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:23.760
Listen in ninety six, The Sentinel in ninety seven, Viper

1059
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:24.639
in ninety seven.

1060
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:25.480
Wow.

1061
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.719
Then he does Polter Guys, The Legacy, don Party, Our

1062
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.159
Buddy Cappy Yeah, the Outer Limits remake in ninety eight,

1063
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.000
Fear Resurrection in ninety nine, or Fear two.

1064
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:38.639
One of my favorite silly movies from the nineties. By

1065
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:43.159
the way, Fear two Resurrection also known as Fear two Halloween.

1066
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:47.000
Night, followed by First Wave in ninety nine, Way Downtown

1067
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:49.679
in two thousand, Left Behind, the original Left Behind film

1068
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.840
in two thousand, Wow Twice in a Lifetime in two thousand,

1069
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:56.000
Mutant x Earth Final Conflict, Beyond Belief, Factor Fiction two

1070
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.559
thousand and two, Left Behind two, Tribulation four two thousand

1071
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:00.480
and two, The Happy Couple two thousand and three, Crimes of

1072
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:02.920
Passion in two thousand and three, and even did Highwaymen

1073
00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:05.880
that movie that we mentioned Monster Man the suggestion yeah

1074
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.960
oh yeah, yeah guys in nine two thousand and four,

1075
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.679
Go Him Moving down to Chandra West.

1076
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:13.119
She plays Susie in the film She Gets Are. Starting

1077
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:13.920
nineteen ninety on.

1078
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:17.119
The Hitchhiker series, followed by True Confessions in ninety one,

1079
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.079
Beyond Reality in ninety two, Forever Night in ninety two,

1080
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:22.480
Night Terrors in ninety three, the Tobe Hooper.

1081
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.000
Film Oh Yeah Uh, puppet.

1082
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.400
Master four in ninety three, puppet Master five and ninety four,

1083
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:31.840
Highlander in ninety four, Lonesome Dove the Series in ninety four, Madonna,

1084
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:35.920
Innocence Lost in ninety four, Okay, Falling for You, No contest,

1085
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.800
oh Man, Yeah, No contest in nineteen ninety five, Catwalk

1086
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:42.000
in ninety five, Picket Fences in ninety five, A Face

1087
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:44.440
to Die For in ninety six, Kindred the Embraced in

1088
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.320
ninety six, Viper in ninety six.

1089
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:48.079
Oh shit, they were Viper.

1090
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:50.760
Yeah, The Waiting Game of ninety eight, Universal Soldier two,

1091
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.960
Brother in Arms in ninety eight, Universe Soldier three, Unfinished Business,

1092
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:57.239
Earth Final Conflicts, Seasons of Love the seventies and two thousand,

1093
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:59.679
CSI in two thousand, The Sultan Sea in two thousand

1094
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:02.079
and two, NYPD Blue and Even White Noise in two

1095
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:03.199
thousand and five with Michael Keaton.

1096
00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:06.440
I remember Berman, yeah in his interview.

1097
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:08.440
And last on our credit, I'm going to give to

1098
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:11.960
Guy Rolf, who plays Andre Toulon well of all.

1099
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.599
Of the people, yeah, he has the most interesting resumes.

1100
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:15.480
He absolutely does.

1101
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:17.880
So this man gets his start in nineteen thirty seven

1102
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.039
with a Night Without Armor, Dinner at the Ritz in

1103
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:21.599
thirty seven, And I would also like to add this

1104
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:22.920
is a very condensed resume.

1105
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:26.039
Yeah, yes, he was a British actor. He literally started

1106
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:28.119
nineteen thirty seven. Yeah, and we're talking about a movie

1107
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:29.320
he shot in nineteen ninety three.

1108
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.960
Yeah, so I met out in forty seven, The Inheritance

1109
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:34.639
forty seven, Broken Journey in forty eight, Fools Rush in

1110
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:36.639
forty nine, The Spider and the Fly in forty nine,

1111
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:39.960
Prelude to Fame in nineteen fifty, Ivanhoe fifty two, Operation

1112
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.039
Diplomat fifty three, ITV Play of the Week, fifty six,

1113
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:46.880
Hour of Mystery in fifty seven, The Stranglers of Bombay

1114
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:50.800
in fifty nine, The Barbarians thriller, Mister Sardonicus in sixty one,

1115
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.719
King of Kings, The Alphabet Murders, The Saint, the Avengers,

1116
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:56.639
and now The Screaming Starts in nineteen seventy three.

1117
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:58.119
I forgot he was in that shit.

1118
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.760
I mean, I would have trouble. I first discovered him

1119
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:04.239
in the puppet Master movies. Yeah, so he was already

1120
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:06.840
it's like seventies. Oh yeah, so it would be I

1121
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:08.920
would be shocked if I could recognize him.

1122
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:12.519
That Young Bloodline in seventy nine, The Bride in nineteen

1123
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:14.760
eighty five, and then in nineteen eighty six he stars

1124
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:16.719
in a little film called Dolls.

1125
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:22.119
Yes he does without facial hair, Yes, Stuart Gordon's Dolls. Yes,

1126
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:23.840
I do remember him being in that. You know who.

1127
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.559
He kind of reminded me of who uh, what's the

1128
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:27.960
thing to the guy who stars in Motel Hell?

1129
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.559
Oh uh is that very Calhoun? Yeah?

1130
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:33.800
Yeah, he kind of reminded with no hear see that? Yeah,

1131
00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:37.159
British Rory Calhoun, which is a strange mood.

1132
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:39.079
It's a terrifying idea.

1133
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.119
Uncle Silas in eighty nine, Crossbow in eighty nine, puppet

1134
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:44.800
Master three two ons Revenge in ninety one, followed by

1135
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.960
puppet Master four, puppet Master five, Retro puppet Master in

1136
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:50.920
ninety nine. Then unfortunately he passes away in two thousand

1137
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:53.800
and three October nineteenth. He was ninety one and he

1138
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:54.920
dies of natural causes.

1139
00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:57.000
I remember when he passed away because again I was

1140
00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:59.760
on the puppet Master Full Moon fan board. Yeah, and

1141
00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:02.320
we were all very devastated when he when he passed.

1142
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:04.920
So we would like to report that as of this recording,

1143
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:08.559
puppet Master four is currently available on Prime Video, Peacock

1144
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:11.039
two B freeby Plex and Roku.

1145
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:12.239
Oh gosh, it's everywhere.

1146
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:12.880
It's everywhere.

1147
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:13.400
Hell. Yeah.

1148
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.519
So there's no reason for you not to pause this

1149
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:18.679
podcast right now, go watch puppet Master four and rejoin us.

1150
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:20.760
And if you're not going to, then you didn't care

1151
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:22.079
about me crying earlier.

1152
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.360
Because this movie we're starting now here we go.

1153
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:29.239
So we open in the underworld of Hell fifty six

1154
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:31.559
minutes and I keep hitting the fucking microphone my nose.

1155
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:35.039
Dammit, maybe you need to carve that schna back a little.

1156
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.360
So we open in the underworld of Hell. We're basically

1157
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:40.159
in the nether world, and that's where we meet the

1158
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:41.199
god sucked to.

1159
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:49.519
Suit Tech suit Tech, sucked sucked suit.

1160
00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:50.960
Tech, and he's explaining that to his minions that they

1161
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:53.400
have to keep the power and in doing so, they

1162
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:56.039
are going to send these totems to Earth to be delivered,

1163
00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:57.440
but we don't know to whom yet.

1164
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.880
Yes, that is part of the well, well, I would

1165
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.800
say the plot thickens. But as Burr said, what plot?

1166
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:04.320
What plot?

1167
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.159
So we cut over to biotech industries. As we see

1168
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:09.800
a man approaching the front desk with a nice wooden box.

1169
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.320
He's in a rainstorm. He goes into the up, he

1170
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:14.360
goes into the facility, sets the box down, and that's

1171
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:17.679
when we also meet doctor Leslie Piper, who is contacted

1172
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:19.559
about the box being dropped off of the front desk.

1173
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:23.199
Yes. Yes, and this is the beginning of us starting

1174
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:26.079
to figure out somewhat what's going on, because we're about

1175
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:28.559
to meet our main character when she makes a phone call.

1176
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.880
We are, indeed, So we first find out that she

1177
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.559
is working with another doctor, doctor Baker, and that is played.

1178
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:36.760
I do want to give a shout.

1179
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:39.000
Out to RoboCop alumni.

1180
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.199
Yeah, I just lost his name, Felton Perry. Yes, and

1181
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:44.760
he is asking her how the research is going, and

1182
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:46.360
she's like, well, I haven't heard from Rick yet, but

1183
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:48.480
you know how Rick is. He should be getting back

1184
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:52.000
to me anytime now, boys the boy genius. So she

1185
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:54.280
calls him and that's when she basically says that she

1186
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:55.800
thinks they're going to have a breakthrough on the AI

1187
00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.599
project because the robots are also solving puzzles.

1188
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:02.519
Now, yes, and and uh, that is a major plot

1189
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:10.480
point in the film, is the development of artificial intelligence. Yeah,

1190
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:11.760
do you Even?

1191
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:23.480
Movie will be right back, welcome back to Do You Even? Movie?

1192
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:29.480
So doctor Piper goes to get the package, revealing it

1193
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:31.119
to be a creature like statue.

1194
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:33.039
And I when I say a creature like statue, like,

1195
01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:34.119
what would you describe this?

1196
01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:40.280
I would describe it as like, honestly like equal parts

1197
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:45.440
hr Giger and Nickelodeon. Yeah, absolutely fair, But it actually

1198
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:47.880
is scary thing. Yeah, it's It's just it's a doll.

1199
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:50.599
It's a doll, but it has the it has the

1200
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.079
features of something that could fuck you up if the

1201
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:53.719
came to life.

1202
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:56.440
Maybe it's got big teeth, big claws. Yes, And the

1203
01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:58.360
reason I say hr Giger is it has like a

1204
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:01.960
big head piece that kind of goes back beyond the

1205
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:03.840
back of its head and sticks out a ways.

1206
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:06.360
And suddenly this creature does come to life, taking off

1207
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:09.599
one of Piper's fingers, and she begins to run, trying

1208
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:12.159
to avoid its attacks, but this creature is right on her.

1209
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:13.960
She even throws it across the room at one point,

1210
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:16.000
but then it charges at her, taking her to the

1211
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.320
ground and tries to begin stealing her soul.

1212
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:23.519
And this is some Full Moon era classicness. They love

1213
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.440
those scenes with the little Killers. Charlie was obsessed with

1214
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:31.599
Killer It still is Killer Dolls, Killer Toys, miniature people. Yeah,

1215
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:35.079
so we get a lot of very This scene is

1216
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:41.119
very like the fetish dollally thinking, Yeahlogy of Terror in

1217
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:43.960
Trilogy of Terror with Karen Black, Trilogy.

1218
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:45.880
Of Tear two because the labog.

1219
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.360
Yeah, that's very like Trilogy of Terror too. Yeah, highly

1220
01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:50.880
underrated Terror two.

1221
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:53.960
So that is when we also find out that these

1222
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:58.199
minions back in the nether World are controlling these dolls basically.

1223
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:04.079
Yeah, well more than that, they they're like sharing essence because,

1224
01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:07.519
as we find out spoiler, when they get killed, the

1225
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:10.400
person controlling it dies horribly too. So it's more than

1226
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:13.880
just controlling. They are the Totems. I still don't know

1227
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:15.079
why the hell they're called totem.

1228
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.000
No one does, that's fair.

1229
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:19.000
So the totems are watching for the never World, and

1230
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:21.800
they watch from the eyes of the servant thing that

1231
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:23.679
they have as the as the creature goes to touch

1232
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:25.440
her head, that's when we meet Rick Myers, who is

1233
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:27.880
preparing two robots for a test as he is at

1234
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:29.400
the beautiful.

1235
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:33.039
Uh Bodega Yeah, Bodega Bay, which.

1236
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:35.760
Is the hotel from the original puppet Master and puppet

1237
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:38.679
Master two. Yes, because those two take place in what

1238
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:40.719
would be modern day at the time as to where

1239
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:43.199
three they go back in time to Nazi Germany and

1240
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:47.119
Tulan starts killing Nazis. But although before that they had

1241
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:48.800
hinted he might be a Nazi.

1242
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:51.239
Nazi, which was a little tricky. Well, in the Littlest

1243
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:53.519
Reich he totally was a nuts, which.

1244
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.599
I thought made him scary. So, I mean they I

1245
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.119
think they did a pretty good job. Udo kir gave

1246
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:02.000
it us all. But this scene is one of the

1247
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.079
scenes that really connected with me as a little kid

1248
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:06.760
watching it. Yeah, because he's got this laser gun and

1249
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:10.480
he's basically playing laser tag with two robots to see

1250
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:13.679
if they develop problem solving skills. So the music, he

1251
01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:15.880
plays some music and he's like jumping around his bed

1252
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:18.559
and shooting lasers. As a kid, you're like, God, I

1253
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:20.880
would love to have robots that played laser tag with me,

1254
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:23.000
you know. It's so cool. So he's jumping and he's

1255
01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:26.440
shooting at them, but it becomes very clear that they

1256
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:29.039
are not able to solve problems. They're not able to

1257
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:31.639
fight him or each other. Yeah, he even makes a

1258
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:33.599
reference where he's like, look, I'm a scientist, not a

1259
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:35.039
track star or something. You should have been able to

1260
01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:35.639
catch me to.

1261
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:37.960
Catch me, Yeah, because even comments that he was using

1262
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.800
a randomly generated number sequence through a gamma and he

1263
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:43.119
confides us in his papercorder and he believes that the

1264
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:46.159
artificial intelligence is nowhere near ready as they needed.

1265
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.960
To be, and thereby cementing that this is the boy

1266
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:50.199
wonder we were speaking of.

1267
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:52.000
So that's when we cut back to the lab and

1268
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:54.119
we see doctor Baker is still at work, but we

1269
01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:57.039
also see that unpackage has now arrived for him.

1270
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.880
Oh what could it be?

1271
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:04.639
It looks to be another box exactly like Piper received

1272
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:08.360
Doctor Piper received, and he opens it to find another.

1273
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:10.440
Toto Hell's Bells and Taco shows.

1274
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:12.719
So we also cut back to Rick, who, while getting

1275
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:16.119
ready to head out, is admired by Blade, the puppet Blade.

1276
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:18.039
And when I say admired, we just see Blade kind

1277
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:19.000
of watching over him.

1278
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:22.519
Yeah. In the start of the film, the only puppet

1279
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:25.360
who is currently animated or reanimated or whatever you call

1280
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:27.960
it is Blade, and Blade is kind of the bread

1281
01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.119
and butter of the Puppet Master series. He's got this

1282
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:32.199
white face that kind of that looks like Faust.

1283
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:32.519
Faust.

1284
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.760
Yeah, he literally looks like Faust from the old plays

1285
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:39.239
of faust. Yeah, but he has literal dagger eyes and

1286
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:41.880
he has a hook for one hand and a straight

1287
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:45.239
up blade. That knife like literally it's a it's a

1288
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:48.360
knife with one side sharp like fileting and one side

1289
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:50.599
is sawed. Yeah, like he literally I have a doll

1290
01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:52.519
of him in my living room. So I remember I

1291
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:54.800
bought that at Spencer's Gifts. There was a time period

1292
01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.519
when Spencer's carried puppet Mastery. Yeah, and they had the

1293
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.599
blood spattered editions which were so cool. Every the exact

1294
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.360
same doll, but they prayed up with red paint. Yep, no,

1295
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:05.400
just a little splatter. It wasn't like drench.

1296
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:07.039
Yeah, no, I remember the Michael Myers one.

1297
01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:10.000
So that is when we also see that Blade notices

1298
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:11.639
that outside there's a figure.

1299
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:13.079
Calling to him that may or may not just sound

1300
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:14.039
like Andrea Toulon.

1301
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:18.760
Yeah, and he's basically just saying like fam, Yeah, basically Fam,

1302
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:24.239
keep keep the faith, fam. Just basically what he's thinking at.

1303
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.320
Tulon doing freaking fast and the furious quotes.

1304
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:32.320
Now, Blade, remember we don't have friends, we have family.

1305
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:36.960
So that's when we see that, like I said, uh,

1306
01:05:37.239 --> 01:05:39.679
doctor Baker has received a totem creature. Just like he has,

1307
01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:42.119
and naturally he doesn't know what to do with it,

1308
01:05:42.159 --> 01:05:44.280
so he puts it into a nuclear power.

1309
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:47.199
He puts it into a big microwave. Yeah, bic cinera

1310
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:49.719
trying to kill. Yeah, well he doesn't know what's alive yet.

1311
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:52.800
Yeah, so that's what He opens it and realizes that

1312
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:54.760
it's not there anymore, except it totally is as it

1313
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:57.760
lunges out and steals his soul. So now doctor Baker

1314
01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:01.719
is no longer in the game indeed. So that's when

1315
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.360
we cut back to Rick and he is getting ready

1316
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:06.440
to go outside when he notices a stranger is also

1317
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:07.320
outside of his house.

1318
01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:10.840
Yes, you caught me with a cigar in my mouth.

1319
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:14.760
So he goes to answer the door, and that's when

1320
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:18.199
he notices that blade is also right by him.

1321
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:22.039
You know right, I can't lie. I kind of love this,

1322
01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:25.760
like Tulan haunting thing. It works for me, it really does.

1323
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:29.679
So that is when Rick was calling to ask doctor Baker,

1324
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.719
Oh yeah, I forgot this. So he calls doctor Baker,

1325
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:32.079
Oh yeah.

1326
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:34.159
They talk a little bit real quick, and he basically

1327
01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:35.960
just says, like, how's it coming along. He's like, not

1328
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:38.639
great right now, but I feel like I'm almost there. Yeah,

1329
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:42.199
and then there's a rap rap rapping, as if someone tapping, rapping,

1330
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:45.199
tapping on the bodega bay in the door.

1331
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:48.719
And that's when we go to find that his friends

1332
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:52.599
Susie and her friend Lauren and Cameron have stopped by

1333
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.000
the Cameron's also an ex colleague.

1334
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:57.480
Yeah, with very tall hair.

1335
01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:02.360
Yes, And Lauren may or may not be a psychic yes, uh, but.

1336
01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:05.000
What we can say her boyfriend one hundred percent of

1337
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:08.400
doucheback douche he is. He is the movie's douchey he is.

1338
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:10.559
He is a total He is a douche Canoe.

1339
01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:13.400
So at dinner, Rick, Suzy Lauren listen to Cameron go

1340
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:15.159
on and on about being in school with Rick and

1341
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:17.360
about how he was the golden boy and how he's

1342
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:18.719
basically proud of him.

1343
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:20.800
But we know that he's not. He's being very smug

1344
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:21.840
about his comments.

1345
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:26.239
Al Brooks used to call those complas salts, solid compliments

1346
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:27.599
that are actually insults.

1347
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.800
We also see that Blade, now moving around, is spying

1348
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:32.559
on them around the corner as he peeks back and

1349
01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:35.039
then goes back around the corner. Cameron also states that

1350
01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:38.119
he is working for the Phoenix Division, which means that

1351
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:39.519
he is technically working.

1352
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:42.280
Yeah, he's bragging like, well, I'm working, this is top

1353
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:44.800
secret stuff I'm talking to. I answered to someone named

1354
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:48.239
Pepper and he goes Piper, Piper, She's who is researching

1355
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.280
my studies. So how he's realized he is a small

1356
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:55.119
cog in the machine that is entirely about Rick yep.

1357
01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:59.760
So basically, basically, it's like if you got the shrink

1358
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:02.119
ra from Honey. I shrunk the kids and just aimed

1359
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:05.039
it only at his nuts. Yeah, and just that's exactly

1360
01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:07.480
until they were small enough that they could befriend an

1361
01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:08.880
aunt and it ends very sad.

1362
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.159
So outside Blade sees and hears the voice of Andreas

1363
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:15.320
Ulan again and we see that Baker and Pipeer souls

1364
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:15.679
are now.

1365
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:17.680
Out of their bodies, so their souls are completely stolen.

1366
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:18.600
Yeah bummer.

1367
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:20.760
So Cameron asked for them to be shown around the

1368
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:22.880
rest of Rick's set up in the Bodega Bay Inn

1369
01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:25.279
and that's when Lauren finds the Blade puppet. As they leave,

1370
01:08:25.319 --> 01:08:26.840
she asked Rick about it, but he doesn't really have

1371
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:29.399
a response yet. But upon getting to Rick's lab, Cameron

1372
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:31.119
tries to get a look at Rick's research. He is

1373
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:32.800
all about trying to see what's on this computer.

1374
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:37.760
And it's worth mentioning about Rick. He is definitely an

1375
01:08:37.800 --> 01:08:42.399
odd character. He is super duper obsessed with his work.

1376
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:46.079
There are regularly throwaway lines where his girlfriend is basically like,

1377
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:49.159
I wish he'd pay that much attention to me. Yeah.

1378
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:51.319
There's even a reference at dinner where she's saying, like,

1379
01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:52.960
every now and then, I remind him to come up

1380
01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.279
for air because originally he was supposed to be a

1381
01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:57.159
dinner of just the two of them, but she brought

1382
01:08:57.239 --> 01:08:58.640
two friends friends.

1383
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:02.279
So that's when Rick is quick to deny the access. Meanwhile,

1384
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:05.159
Lauren starting to feel vibes off holding the Blade puppet,

1385
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:07.560
and she's being introduced also to the Hermes, which is

1386
01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:09.399
the test robot that he was shooting out in the beginning.

1387
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:11.479
Yeah, and she's having a bit of a time.

1388
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:11.880
Yes.

1389
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:14.439
She questions if Rick still has the box the puppet

1390
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:15.920
came in. He shows her the box that he had

1391
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.319
received it in. She's like, no, that's not the box

1392
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:20.720
that this came in. It's still here somewhere though, and

1393
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:23.439
he's like, well, there's a storage closet down the hall.

1394
01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:24.239
Like knock yourself out.

1395
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:26.239
Yeah, it's very funny. She's like, could I you know,

1396
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:28.520
I need to find He's like, well, the storage closes

1397
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:30.800
over there, knock yourself out. He really couldn't care.

1398
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:31.640
Less here less.

1399
01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:33.600
So Lauren enters to find a room full of old

1400
01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:36.359
furniture tools cobwebs, and she quickly lets out of screen

1401
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:38.960
before fainting. Rick and the rest of them come to

1402
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:40.760
her aid, and she tells Rick to stay away from

1403
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:41.880
this trunk that she's found.

1404
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.239
And what's he do? He just goes to work trying

1405
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:45.159
to open it with a hammer.

1406
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.039
Yeah, well, she hands him hammer. He goes, oh, great,

1407
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.560
a hammer, and then he starts whacking it and whacking it.

1408
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:54.760
Three hours later, so he is whacking away on this

1409
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:57.600
trunk and even asking for someone to bust the lock off.

1410
01:09:57.640 --> 01:09:59.800
Susie gets him the hammer. Lauren keeps begging him to

1411
01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:01.840
stiy up, and Cameron offers to take a whack at it.

1412
01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:03.760
Susie begs them to stop again, and love.

1413
01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:06.880
That nobody cares. Nobody begging her to stop.

1414
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:09.439
Yeah, he has Laura, Why the fuck? She's so scared

1415
01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:11.680
and she walks off. Rick tries to call them Susie,

1416
01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:13.640
but she runs off too, and that's when he's like women.

1417
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:17.199
Women can't live with him, can't shoot and shoot him.

1418
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:20.640
That's what he said, not what I said.

1419
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:23.039
And Cameron also makes the comment that she'll be fine

1420
01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:24.119
once they get the box open.

1421
01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:27.000
Yeah, well he thinks that, uh that once she sees

1422
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:29.439
there's nothing dangerous in it. Yeah, it'll be fine.

1423
01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:32.640
So Blade outside catches another side of Andrea Tulan. Rick

1424
01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:35.640
opens the trunk, finding it filled with two lines of memorabilia.

1425
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:38.840
We're talking posters for the puppets events, all kinds of stuff.

1426
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:42.640
Yeah, it's basically a stage. Yeah, and it's full of

1427
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.479
the puppets, although it's missing a couple. It is missing

1428
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:49.720
a woman and torch, and Torch appears in part five

1429
01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:50.279
for reason.

1430
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:54.239
So Cameron finds two lines metal that maybe hints that

1431
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:55.880
he may or may not have been a Nazi as well.

1432
01:10:56.920 --> 01:11:00.119
Passes pass which has a big old eagle with this

1433
01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:02.359
a shwastika, and.

1434
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:04.680
That causes Rick to go yikes. They searched through more

1435
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:05.119
of the trunk.

1436
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:07.720
Well, Douchebag says something great. He goes like, he goes

1437
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:09.399
like he must have been it looks like he was

1438
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:11.560
a Nazis. Oh, I hate those guys.

1439
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:12.439
Those guys.

1440
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:14.720
So they searched him more of the trunk, finding Tulon's

1441
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.960
personal journal, which states that Tulon had his Nazi affiliation

1442
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.079
falsely documented so that he could flee from that.

1443
01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:23.000
It basically says like, I've killed the guy and avenged

1444
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:25.399
my wife. Yeah, and now the printer is going to

1445
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:27.359
forge me a passport so I can get out of

1446
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:29.560
here before they find the secret.

1447
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:31.600
Because the SS wanted to get access to the puppets

1448
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:34.000
and use them for bad So soon we see Susie

1449
01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:36.119
has joined them again as Cameron and Rick take out

1450
01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:41.239
the puppets, including six Shooter, Tunneler, Pinhead, and of course

1451
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:43.960
Blade is in there as well. You forgot Jester, Oh Jester, Yeah,

1452
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:44.520
Jester too.

1453
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:46.279
Chester doesn't do a lot in this one.

1454
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:49.199
He doesn't, so Rick also finds a small case with

1455
01:11:49.279 --> 01:11:51.520
two vials of green liquid in a sarrange, and you know,

1456
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:53.119
it just reminded me of another movie.

1457
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:54.680
I just I just can't put The Immortalizer.

1458
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:57.960
The Immortalizer, Yes, yes, the Surgeon for.

1459
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:02.800
Those who aren't stupid pathetic dorks. The Immortalizer is probably

1460
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:08.479
the most shameless knockoff of Reanimator of Stuart Gordon's Reanimator,

1461
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:11.920
where they have. The reagent is in a vial and

1462
01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:15.359
it's basically a glowing green fluid like those lights you

1463
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:18.399
crack and shake and they light up. It's that fluid,

1464
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:21.159
but in a container. I always thought that was weird

1465
01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:23.840
because I saw this before I saw Reanimator. So years

1466
01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:25.760
later I saw Reanimator. I was like, oh, yeah, they

1467
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:28.239
just kind of took something straight out of Reanimator.

1468
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:30.399
Okay, I mean, and you know, he Rick does the

1469
01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:33.319
only viable option at this point, I'm gonna inject all

1470
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:34.439
these puppets with the serum.

1471
01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:39.279
Yeah. The fact that he injects all of them, not

1472
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:49.000
one all, like you I would do one and see yeah.

1473
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:58.520
Do you even movie will be right back, welcome back

1474
01:12:58.560 --> 01:12:59.960
to do you Even Move?

1475
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:06.279
But nah, I Donlet's just do all of them all out,

1476
01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:06.960
one at a time.

1477
01:13:07.079 --> 01:13:10.319
But it does have the reveal that they're finally moving.

1478
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:11.199
Is so good.

1479
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.840
Yeah, because that's when Cameron is getting fed up. He's like,

1480
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:15.239
you know, I don't have time to wait all this,

1481
01:13:15.359 --> 01:13:16.880
you know, I'm gonna see if I can do something

1482
01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:17.159
about this.

1483
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:17.760
And that's when the.

1484
01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:20.119
Pinhead puppet just comes to life and reaches up right

1485
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:21.239
on Cameron and pulls him.

1486
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:22.680
Down yeah, and there's a nice scare.

1487
01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:23.239
Yeah.

1488
01:13:23.239 --> 01:13:26.279
And for those who don't know the Pinhead puppet, he

1489
01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:29.680
is a big, muscly puppet with a tiny little pinhead.

1490
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:31.760
But he has hands that are about the size of

1491
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:33.840
like a twelve year old yeah hands, so he has

1492
01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:35.800
like pretty meaty hands. He could punch you, he could

1493
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:38.640
grab you. That's what he does in most of the films,

1494
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:41.279
because he's the one who like strangles people and grabs

1495
01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:42.800
hammers and stuff like that.

1496
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:45.039
So Lauren, seeing this, states that she warned them, but

1497
01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:47.039
Rick states he doesn't think there's anything to worry about.

1498
01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:49.159
He doesn't feel that there's any danger with them yet.

1499
01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:51.960
So he picks up Tunneler, who comes to life alongside

1500
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:53.840
the rest of his puppet pals and Rick is amazed,

1501
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:55.920
but Cameron isn't convinced that what he's seeing, and Rick

1502
01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:58.359
makes the point that this could be a huge discovery

1503
01:13:58.399 --> 01:13:58.720
for them.

1504
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:03.239
I like that they reanimate a puppet with a drill

1505
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:06.119
on top of his head and don't at all think like, hey,

1506
01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:08.680
I think that might be dangerous.

1507
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:09.319
Maybe.

1508
01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:13.680
So we cut back to another world as a Suita

1509
01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:18.880
suit Tech suit Tech Yeah damn su Tech states that

1510
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:21.960
everyone must die, who has discovered Twulns magic now, So

1511
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:23.600
we cut back to the Bodega bay In as we

1512
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:26.520
see Rick shoot the Jester puppet with the serum and

1513
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.319
it comes to life now too, and Cameron wants explanations

1514
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:31.399
and is upset. The Two LUNs journal has nothing that

1515
01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:33.159
they can use to comprehend how this is working.

1516
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:33.359
Yeah.

1517
01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:36.000
He's digging through the journal trying to find the the

1518
01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:39.000
what do you call it, the chemical composition? Yeah, the

1519
01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:39.920
instructions on how.

1520
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:41.600
To make this sequence basically, Yeah.

1521
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.880
And the journal is just personal information. It has nothing

1522
01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:47.920
to do with the science or magic or whatever of

1523
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:48.600
the puppets.

1524
01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:51.159
So outside, in a rainstorm at the Bodega bay In

1525
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:53.399
loses power and Susan suggests that they all call it

1526
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:55.600
a night. Cameron and Lauren go off to a room,

1527
01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:57.920
and Susie has left with Rick, but Cameron has pissed

1528
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:00.000
at Rick's discovery still and states he's going to try

1529
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:02.079
try and get the puppet formula before he can.

1530
01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:02.720
Yeah.

1531
01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:04.840
He's salty af Yeah, and.

1532
01:15:05.399 --> 01:15:07.079
He wants to have it because he wants all them

1533
01:15:07.079 --> 01:15:08.840
to basically bow to him and kiss his ass.

1534
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:12.119
He wants to bring it to the project first, and

1535
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:14.800
then the project will be run by him, and Rick

1536
01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:17.319
will be I don't know, laying in a gutter sobbing.

1537
01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:19.520
So Lauren tries to tell him the puppets don't belong

1538
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:19.800
to him.

1539
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:22.079
A Cameron says he's earned this and asked Lauren doesn't

1540
01:15:22.119 --> 01:15:23.680
she want to help him get what he deserves.

1541
01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:25.800
I like him, He's not at all manipula.

1542
01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:26.560
No, no, no.

1543
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:29.520
So back in Rick's room, we see him fitting Tunneler

1544
01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:31.600
and Pinhead with laser guns for another match of the

1545
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.560
laser tag game. He counts down and they all just

1546
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:36.720
begin to go at each other. It's a really fun scene.

1547
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:39.520
It's super fun, and it pays off for the fact

1548
01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:43.199
that he realizes that whatever these puppets are, they can

1549
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:47.720
think yeah, and that's really important if you're developing artificial intelligence.

1550
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:48.239
I would say so.

1551
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:51.239
Now, of course, if this movie is canon, which I

1552
01:15:51.239 --> 01:15:53.600
don't know that it is, but if it was canon,

1553
01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:56.720
then the reality would be that Toulon put souls in

1554
01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:02.439
the puppets. Yeah, because Blade was the soul of Richard

1555
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:07.159
Lynch's Nazi character in Part three three yep. So, Although

1556
01:16:07.479 --> 01:16:09.800
because the way the Puppet Master series works is Part

1557
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:11.720
one is supposed to be modern time Part two is

1558
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:14.720
a direct sequel, then part three is a prequel. We

1559
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:17.079
go back to one Toulon because the first scene of

1560
01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:19.960
the first puppet Master movie is the Nazis catching up

1561
01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:22.800
with Tulon in America and him blowing his brains out. Yeah,

1562
01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:24.000
to hide the secrets.

1563
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:26.359
So back in the other room, Lauren tries to reason

1564
01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:28.720
with Cameron that she felt something evil with those puppets,

1565
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:30.760
but Cameron asked her again to do it for him.

1566
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:32.880
Tunneler and Penhead put up a fight with Rick on

1567
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:35.600
the laser tag side of things, and they are going

1568
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:38.159
around the room and they another ring at the door

1569
01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:40.079
sends Susie to check on who it is, and she

1570
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:42.239
comes to the door to find no one but a

1571
01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:47.319
box just like doctor Piper and Doctor Baker received previously.

1572
01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:48.359
What's in the box?

1573
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:49.279
What's in the box?

1574
01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:52.039
Indeed, because that is when we cut back to Lauren,

1575
01:16:52.079 --> 01:16:56.159
who is now taking a Tulan's trunk and she is

1576
01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:58.640
now seated across from Cameron trying to do a seance.

1577
01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:00.119
So they've taken the board that was in the the

1578
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.239
stage that was in there, and they're sitting across fro

1579
01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:05.359
each other doing a seance. Now basically trying to summon Andrea.

1580
01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:08.720
Law because there was this weird kind of Ouiji board

1581
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:12.399
yeah in that trunk, which he snagged a prism on

1582
01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:16.600
it too, so she's the psychic medium yep. So he's like, hey,

1583
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:18.960
use your thing to talk to this too long guy

1584
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.000
so I can get the info. And uh, you know,

1585
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:22.359
none of this could possibly.

1586
01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:24.399
Go wrong, not at all, because suddenly Lauren is taken over,

1587
01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:27.279
asking him who does he seek? Cameron states Andre Tulon,

1588
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:29.439
and he wants to know about the power of the puppets.

1589
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:32.119
Suddenly the thing inhabbening. Lauren begins to laugh as we

1590
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:35.000
see multiple Killer Totem creatures begin to come out of

1591
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:35.960
the wigiaboard or.

1592
01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:37.800
Really that was a scene that scared me when I

1593
01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:41.560
was a kid. Now all you know, there are plenty

1594
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:45.680
of problems with this movie there, Like, it's very uneven

1595
01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:47.640
in the action. We get some really good actions at

1596
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:49.159
the start, and then it lulls a lot in the

1597
01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:51.479
middle until they start getting killed at Bodega Bay at

1598
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:55.279
act or whatever. But I liked it as a kid,

1599
01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:55.840
so fuck off.

1600
01:17:55.880 --> 01:17:58.079
But this is this is pretty bad. This is pretty

1601
01:17:58.079 --> 01:17:58.520
bad ass.

1602
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:02.000
But the prism, which is a pyramid splits into four

1603
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:06.119
pyramids or three three three, oh yeah, math right, geometry right,

1604
01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:10.199
It splits open and these totems just rise up and

1605
01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:13.199
they're just rising up like ah. And one of the

1606
01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:15.359
best things about this movie, although there's not a ton

1607
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:17.800
of it, is the stop motion absolutely, and this is

1608
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:20.920
so cool because literally they're like doing these like creepy

1609
01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:23.800
motions and like growling as they rise up out of

1610
01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:24.159
the board.

1611
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:26.880
The sound they make is just unsettling.

1612
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.920
It's so creepy. And when I, you know, ten year

1613
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.520
old me, yeah, was just like, oh shit.

1614
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:36.960
So Lord and Cameron scream, but Rick is distracted with

1615
01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:39.159
his laser tag game, so Susie interrupts hims to bring

1616
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:41.720
his attention to the screaming. Cameron and Lauren tell him

1617
01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:43.119
as they catch up with him that they need to

1618
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:44.560
leave that something is evil here.

1619
01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:45.760
Meanwhile, Rick goes to.

1620
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:48.039
Check on the room and they are finding scratches all

1621
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:49.800
over the wall, other damages, holes in the wall. The

1622
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:51.800
creatures have now gotten out and are in the house.

1623
01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:54.760
Oh yeah, they're loose in the Bodega Bay. And for

1624
01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:57.600
the record, we haven't really mentioned it is a full

1625
01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:01.840
size hotel, which Rick mentions in passing earlier that he's

1626
01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:03.920
the that it's the off season and he's the grounds

1627
01:19:04.079 --> 01:19:07.119
or not the groundskeeper, the caretaker, caretaker and so, and

1628
01:19:07.159 --> 01:19:09.199
he likes it there because he could do his work

1629
01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:12.359
and there's no one breathing down his neck. And I guess,

1630
01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:14.760
you know, I guess they don't pay him well enough

1631
01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:16.760
to be the head of a major research thing, so

1632
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:18.600
he can't, you know, just buy a space.

1633
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:19.239
That's fair.

1634
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:22.560
So Cameron states he's gone, He's gone, and he goes

1635
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:24.680
to leave. Lauren begs Rick and Susy to come with them,

1636
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:27.279
but they refuse, and that's when he even says, nice

1637
01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:28.439
girl for a psychic.

1638
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.439
There are some really great lines. And when Burr was

1639
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:37.479
talking about this on that interview, he mentioned that while

1640
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:40.520
the shooting schedule was tight, he had just enough days

1641
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:43.119
for them to do some good improv and to try

1642
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:44.920
and flesh things out. And he mentioned that the actor

1643
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:48.439
who played Cameron was in particular a very funny guy.

1644
01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:50.279
And I believe it because he had a lot of

1645
01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:53.279
lines where he would say something and it was so dickish,

1646
01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:56.039
you laugh, like he was such an ass that you'd

1647
01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:58.479
be like, this fucking guy. It's kind of like when

1648
01:19:58.520 --> 01:19:59.039
you talked Dave.

1649
01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:01.640
Yeah, Jason Adams at this point Ash Adams. Now, by

1650
01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:02.640
the way, Ash Adams.

1651
01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:02.960
Yes.

1652
01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:05.840
So outside, Ran continues coming down on Cameron's car and

1653
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:07.079
the car is refusing to start.

1654
01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:08.119
He tells Lauren to.

1655
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:10.359
Get out and push, so she gets out and then

1656
01:20:10.359 --> 01:20:12.119
he fucking locks the door.

1657
01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:18.279
Hey Davids, if you don't want to get your your

1658
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:20.199
feet wet because you got you don't want to have

1659
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:24.279
wet sox all day? Hey, women, they wanted to vote,

1660
01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:26.720
they vote, they can push the car right.

1661
01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:29.680
Well, Cameron gets his just that.

1662
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:33.279
Nope, Cameron gets his just desserts because immediately a creature

1663
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:35.439
pops up in the car and just starts eating the

1664
01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:36.079
shit out of him.

1665
01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:40.079
Oh, it's probably the most grosh, greuesome thing in the movie.

1666
01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:42.479
Well he earned it by being a total chachinko.

1667
01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:44.279
Yeah, I would say so.

1668
01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:47.079
So he is attacked and he is killed, and inside

1669
01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:49.279
the bodega bay in the Puppets come face to face

1670
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:51.680
with the Totem demons. Now, while Susie shows Rick the

1671
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:53.800
remains of the box that the creature arrived in, because

1672
01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:56.159
now that box is just completely broken out.

1673
01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:58.239
Of yes, and and I want to give it up

1674
01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:02.680
to the sux Tech you need to fight off. Well,

1675
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:04.560
you know what, I was gonna make fun of them

1676
01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:06.600
because it's like you sent things as big as the puppets,

1677
01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:08.880
but they were. He didn't send them to initially to

1678
01:21:08.920 --> 01:21:11.800
fight the puppets. Yeah, he sent them to kill the people.

1679
01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:12.079
Yeah.

1680
01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:13.600
And I guess them being that size, I mean they

1681
01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:16.760
are able to disappear into the h VAC vents, They're

1682
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:22.199
able to be delivered in a box. Yeah. So actually,

1683
01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:26.159
I'm not gonna give him crap. I think that he

1684
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:29.079
made a pretty good, pretty good choice. Also, in his

1685
01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:32.840
suit he has nipples, which is hilarious. It's like Joel

1686
01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:34.159
Schumacher was on set that day.

1687
01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:36.800
So he goes outside as Loric comes back and asking

1688
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:38.600
for help. Rick goes to the car, finding the dead

1689
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:41.239
body of Cameron. The puppets now come upon the one

1690
01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:43.680
of the demons, which blade and pinhead hold against the

1691
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:47.119
wall while Tunneler just drills right the fuck through him.

1692
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:51.560
And as far as as toys killing other toy like objects.

1693
01:21:51.119 --> 01:21:53.119
Go very gruesome, very gruesome.

1694
01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:55.840
That thing rides and dies and there's gore.

1695
01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:58.399
Yeah, and back in another world we see the servant

1696
01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:01.600
controlling it go through the same exact shit before melting away.

1697
01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:04.600
And we should mention. So the servants, I would say,

1698
01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:08.520
they look like slightly taller versions of the dwarfs from

1699
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:10.880
from Phantasm two and three.

1700
01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:13.159
Yeah, they got they got like a Jawa aspect of.

1701
01:22:13.079 --> 01:22:15.640
It, and they've got glowing eyes. Yeah, and when they die,

1702
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:17.640
they're in hoods and when they die they kind of

1703
01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:22.359
melt melt. Now, Sue Tech is a full body, like

1704
01:22:22.720 --> 01:22:26.039
a full body skeleton suit, probably made out of foam rubber,

1705
01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:30.000
with a jaw that kind of moves, glowing bloodshot red

1706
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.640
eyes with no pupils, which again looks kind of silly,

1707
01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:36.479
But you show it to a ten year old and

1708
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:38.600
you're like, yeah, this is cool. And because I was

1709
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:42.319
a kid, him like it's like he man. When you're

1710
01:22:42.359 --> 01:22:44.720
a kid, it's like the villain going like i'll get you,

1711
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:47.439
he man, I'll send my blah blah blah and blah

1712
01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:50.520
blah blah and then blah blah blah. As a kid,

1713
01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:52.520
you react really well to know what's going on.

1714
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:54.039
Well, it's just like, I mean, this is this is

1715
01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:56.600
basically the reason I think that I that I was

1716
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:59.359
attracted to these films later on, But it's kind of

1717
01:22:59.439 --> 01:23:01.640
special it's kind of a shame that I missed them

1718
01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:02.880
in my primetime.

1719
01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:06.880
They feel like R rated Power Rangers or you know.

1720
01:23:07.119 --> 01:23:09.000
Stuff like that, especially four and five.

1721
01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:11.279
Yeah, yeah, I mean they feel like R rated kids

1722
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:11.880
shows all those.

1723
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.159
Yeah, No, I really think that, especially part four, it

1724
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:17.720
really has that because in part five there's a lot

1725
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:19.960
more of like a human villain lem, which I feel

1726
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:22.119
like makes it feel more adult. But right now it's

1727
01:23:22.159 --> 01:23:24.800
literally like killer toys and guys in suit, yeah, and

1728
01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:25.520
monster suit.

1729
01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:26.479
What more could you not love?

1730
01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:26.840
Right?

1731
01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.319
So inside, Rick joins the puppets, finding the dead Totem carcass,

1732
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:32.279
which he throws across the room. He goes to tell

1733
01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:34.239
Susie that they got to leave, but the group is

1734
01:23:34.279 --> 01:23:36.800
interrupted as we see the puppets begin to construct a

1735
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:37.520
new puppet.

1736
01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:43.159
Yes, they begin to build Decapitron. Wait, can I put

1737
01:23:43.159 --> 01:23:47.960
Echo on? Hold on? They have to build Wait, of course,

1738
01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:50.600
I don't have it ready. I just thought it'd be funny.

1739
01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:55.000
Now they have to build. I don't have it. I'm

1740
01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:56.640
just just ignore me.

1741
01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:01.199
Catron perfect.

1742
01:24:01.239 --> 01:24:01.399
Yes.

1743
01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:05.640
Lauria wakes up to find the Totem demon breaking through

1744
01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:07.800
the vent in her room, and she goes to make

1745
01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:10.039
a run for it, leaving Susie and Rick cornered. Rick

1746
01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:12.640
quickly turns on Hermes the robot and sends it across

1747
01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:15.800
the room, but Blade six, Shooter and Tunneler quickly wrap

1748
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:16.800
the demon in wire.

1749
01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:19.760
Yes, and not just any wire, yeah, they wrap him

1750
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:22.199
in wire. And and at this point had had we

1751
01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:24.600
already talked about how Pinhead went up on the roof.

1752
01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:25.399
This is it?

1753
01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:28.079
This is so Pinhead is up on the roof with

1754
01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:31.479
the big hands and he's setting up a Frankenstein like

1755
01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:34.279
oh well, another thing, another reason I love this as

1756
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:36.720
a kid, and another reason this is so fun. The

1757
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:40.359
whole movie takes place during one long thunderstorm, so every

1758
01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:44.399
scene is lightning on the windows and thunder rumbling in

1759
01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:47.239
the distance. So now Pinhead is up on top of

1760
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:52.000
this roof and he's assembling an antenna, a lightning rod

1761
01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:55.479
like Frankenstein, a la Frankenstein, which they're going to use

1762
01:24:55.560 --> 01:24:59.439
to revive de Capatron. Yes, but they just plug in

1763
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:02.199
a little ex extra so they can fry the fuck

1764
01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:03.039
out of this totem.

1765
01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:05.600
And that they do, because we see that servant in

1766
01:25:05.640 --> 01:25:07.560
the nether world turn to goo as soon as they

1767
01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:08.920
turn that switch on.

1768
01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:11.199
I have that effect on totems.

1769
01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:12.159
Damn right there.

1770
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:15.079
So suddenly the puppet they were working on mors into

1771
01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:17.800
a head of Andrea Tulan, who informs Rick that Project

1772
01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:21.079
Omega answer can be found in his formula. Rick realizes

1773
01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:23.399
that the other vial is missing of the formula and

1774
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:25.640
he goes to search and even asks Lauren. Lauren, who

1775
01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:28.159
is hiding in another room, is quickly found by the demon.

1776
01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:30.840
Rick runs into Susie, telling her that Tulan spoke in

1777
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.039
America sequence to him and he has to find Lauren

1778
01:25:33.079 --> 01:25:35.239
because she is the key, and Susie rushes off to

1779
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:38.000
find Lauren moments from her having her soul taken as

1780
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:39.479
the creature has fucking cornered her.

1781
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.359
Yeah, they're about to kill her, and the reason that

1782
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:45.520
they need her help is because she is a psychic medium. Yeah,

1783
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:48.119
Tulon only had enough power to tell them that because

1784
01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:52.479
Decapitron got a little bit of electricity. But without the potion,

1785
01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:54.399
it's gonna sauce.

1786
01:25:54.439 --> 01:25:58.199
Yeah, the sauce. God, damn, inside joke.

1787
01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:10.800
Do You Even? Movie will be right back, welcome back

1788
01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:12.079
to do You Even?

1789
01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:19.560
Movie? But without that, he can't really fully come to light.

1790
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:23.399
Yeah, so that's when Susie rushes off, finds Lauren's like

1791
01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:25.159
I said, moments for her soul being taken away, and

1792
01:26:25.199 --> 01:26:26.920
she goes head to head with the demon, telling him

1793
01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:28.840
get off or you bastard. The two of them have

1794
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:31.439
a charging standoff. He's swiping at her, scratching at her,

1795
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:33.720
but she gets one kick in and kicks the creature

1796
01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:36.199
across the room before dousing it with a jar of

1797
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:37.439
acid on the table.

1798
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:39.960
The acid they used to open the box earlier.

1799
01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:43.159
Yeah, so the creature melts away and outside, Rick finds

1800
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:46.239
the vial in Cameron's dead body on his pocket, on

1801
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:48.720
his dead body in his pocket. He returns inside as

1802
01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:51.239
Lauren suddenly comes to as the voice of andrechu Lan,

1803
01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:54.239
who tells him he must help the puppets create de Capatron.

1804
01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:55.720
It's the only way.

1805
01:26:55.680 --> 01:26:57.359
It's the only way to defeat Sue Tech.

1806
01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:00.279
Yes, so we see the puppets Lauren suit is he

1807
01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:03.119
around Rick plugging the sequence into his computer. A countdown

1808
01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:05.399
begins as wires start to send power to the formula,

1809
01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:07.239
which is hooked up to the mold of the puppet,

1810
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:09.640
and we slowly watched the puppet begin to form and

1811
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:10.239
take life.

1812
01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:13.960
Yes, and the Capatron the reason he's called the Capatron

1813
01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:17.760
is he has multiple head attachments, including one kind of

1814
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:22.680
faceless headless yeah, which morphs into Andre Toulon. And in

1815
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:26.720
part five they attach even more attachments to the capatrons. Yes,

1816
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:29.680
they now where those attachments come from. I assume up his.

1817
01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:31.439
Ass apparently has to be.

1818
01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:35.159
So we watch him go, We watch him start to

1819
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:37.520
move and function. We also see another demon remains and

1820
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:40.199
is on the prow and as the door blows open,

1821
01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:42.239
there's our buddy, the acid Totem.

1822
01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:45.960
Yeah, the Acid I like that name, the Acid Total.

1823
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:49.119
The Acid Totem is pissed and it is not super

1824
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:51.039
thrilled that it just was tried to be murdered.

1825
01:27:51.399 --> 01:27:52.520
So that's about to die.

1826
01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:55.800
We see Blade jump down and face off against the

1827
01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:58.079
against it as the Capatron has given his new head.

1828
01:27:58.119 --> 01:28:00.520
Which how would you describe this attachment.

1829
01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:05.439
Uh, it's it's basically like a Tesla death coil. Yeah,

1830
01:28:05.479 --> 01:28:10.720
it's it's four coils around one big bulbous coil. And

1831
01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:13.920
as the electricity goes through it, it all I guess it

1832
01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:16.680
goes from those four and focuses on that one, and

1833
01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:20.319
he shoots a bolt of electricity yep, and just fries.

1834
01:28:20.439 --> 01:28:24.079
I mean like fries it, I mean eleven secret herbs

1835
01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:26.920
and spices. Yeah, fries that totem.

1836
01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:30.159
It blows up, the head comes off, and that is

1837
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:32.520
when seue Tech has has has lost.

1838
01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:37.199
Yeah, sorry, sue Tech, guess you lost until the immediate sequel.

1839
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:38.520
Until the immediate sea bitch.

1840
01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:41.600
So the pair, they say, they get together and they

1841
01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:44.479
are celebrating their victory. That's when we see that Seu

1842
01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:47.159
Tech in the nether world angrily screams out and back

1843
01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:51.199
inside to Capatron, takes off the device, forming Andre Tulan's ahead,

1844
01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:54.039
once again, telling Rick the magic of the Puppets lies

1845
01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:54.359
with him.

1846
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:58.359
Now it needs a strong master. I'm with you, puppet Master.

1847
01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:02.399
Which I say all time, and people don't get the reference,

1848
01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:04.000
like they'll be like, so, let's do this, and I

1849
01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:07.199
always go, I am with you, Puppetmaster. And it's because

1850
01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:10.119
I've watched that movie a billion times. So, and I

1851
01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:11.880
also want to mention real quick because we'll get into

1852
01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:15.239
it more when we talk about the notes. Yeah, but

1853
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:17.840
the reason I keep mentioning part five is not just

1854
01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:19.479
because I had a tape of both. It's because they

1855
01:29:19.479 --> 01:29:22.159
were shot at the exact same time. Yeah, they're basically

1856
01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:25.479
one movie turned into two. Yeah, so there's a lot

1857
01:29:25.479 --> 01:29:28.399
of stuff that it's easy to confuse between them. That's

1858
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:30.279
why I'm really glad we watched it right before, because

1859
01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:32.560
otherwise I might be saying stuff that happened in part five.

1860
01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:35.239
Well, and Berd even said you could basically cut four

1861
01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:36.800
and five together and cut stuff out.

1862
01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:38.479
So if you cut four or five together and got

1863
01:29:38.479 --> 01:29:40.279
it down to eighty five minutes and be a phenomenal

1864
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:40.960
movie movie.

1865
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:42.399
So they have one.

1866
01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:44.920
Now that is the end of puppet Master four, and

1867
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:47.199
uh my god, what a film.

1868
01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:52.159
It is fun. It's a little slow, but it's it's

1869
01:29:52.199 --> 01:29:56.479
a popcorn munched good time and one of the of

1870
01:29:56.520 --> 01:30:01.600
those childhood weirdo movies that still obviously holds up for me.

1871
01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:02.359
Yeah.

1872
01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:03.880
I still have a great time watching it.

1873
01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:05.279
So would you like to know some notes that you

1874
01:30:05.279 --> 01:30:06.359
probably already know about the fire?

1875
01:30:06.439 --> 01:30:08.439
I could probably know most of them, but you speak,

1876
01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:09.039
boys speak.

1877
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:11.760
So it was shot in Pasadena in Culver City, California,

1878
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:13.800
in the winter of nineteen ninety three, two and a

1879
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:15.159
half weeks of prep.

1880
01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:17.319
Which is insane.

1881
01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:18.600
Yeah.

1882
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:21.079
So this in puppet Master five were originally intended to

1883
01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:24.039
be one entire theatrical movie. Full Moon CEO Charles Band

1884
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:26.520
was slated to direct, and the project was titled puppet

1885
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:27.600
Master The Movie.

1886
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.399
Yeah, I think it was actually puppet Master the Motion Picture.

1887
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:32.119
The most picture that makes for sense. Yeah.

1888
01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:34.640
The Torch puppet created in puppet Master two is seen

1889
01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:38.199
on the cover and the VHS, VHS and DVD case,

1890
01:30:38.239 --> 01:30:40.039
but is not seen in any of the movie. This

1891
01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:42.359
was due to economic reasons, as the makers could only

1892
01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:44.760
afford the effects and a fire marshal for one entry.

1893
01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:47.279
Torch does, however, appear in puppet Master five.

1894
01:30:47.680 --> 01:30:50.079
The fire marshal thing makes so much sense because there's

1895
01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:53.119
no fire in at all other than Torch.

1896
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:53.399
Yeah.

1897
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:56.000
In Part five was originally meant to be puppet Master

1898
01:30:56.079 --> 01:30:58.640
versus Demonic Toys, before the idea of the Capatron and

1899
01:30:58.640 --> 01:30:59.520
the Totems came along.

1900
01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:02.920
Well Capatron. We joked about the rise of Decapatron whatever,

1901
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:07.199
But Decapitron was supposed to be a whole other subset

1902
01:31:07.600 --> 01:31:09.840
of Full Moon movies. There was supposed to be a

1903
01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.279
massive Decapitron movie that they were gonna spend five million

1904
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.199
dollars on. If you own Full Moon tapes, you can

1905
01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:20.039
see trailers and teasers for decapitron. He even had designs

1906
01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:22.800
for the toy. Yeah, and then it never happened, which

1907
01:31:22.840 --> 01:31:25.199
a lot of Charlie stuff never happened, you know, because

1908
01:31:25.239 --> 01:31:27.640
where the fuck is my bride of the head of family? Bitches,

1909
01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:29.880
where is it? Where is it? Charlie? Where is it?

1910
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:31.439
Prob I forgot to pay the writer.

1911
01:31:31.359 --> 01:31:33.399
Burd commented the script for four and five was the

1912
01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:34.479
size of a telephone book.

1913
01:31:34.520 --> 01:31:35.640
That made no sense at all.

1914
01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:39.560
I mean, with that many writers, it's gotta make sense, right.

1915
01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:40.239
Yeah.

1916
01:31:40.359 --> 01:31:43.079
Upon returning to the role of Andre Tulan guy, rolf

1917
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:45.399
refused to leave his hotel room and participate in the

1918
01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:49.039
film unless producer Charles Band personally slid a cash payment

1919
01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:50.319
under his hotel room door.

1920
01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:50.600
Yeah.

1921
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:52.680
He wanted to know for a fact that he had

1922
01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:56.159
all the money he was promised, because he flew from Spain. Yeah,

1923
01:31:56.359 --> 01:31:58.479
just to do it and then fly home while being

1924
01:31:58.600 --> 01:31:59.680
quite elderly.

1925
01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:01.600
And burst state on the behind the scenes that Rolfe

1926
01:32:01.680 --> 01:32:03.640
was strapped to a piece of plywood for his scenes

1927
01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:06.359
of the Force perspective, only a couple hours work before

1928
01:32:06.359 --> 01:32:07.479
flying home the next day.

1929
01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:08.960
Yeah, and the reason he was strapped a piece of

1930
01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:11.359
plywood is so that they could film the miniature. Yeah,

1931
01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:12.920
so that his head looked like it was a part

1932
01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:13.319
of the dull.

1933
01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:16.279
Bumped from October nineteen ninety three release date and pushed

1934
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:19.199
to November of that year. Teresa Hill was given the

1935
01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:21.880
chance to do Dorito's commercial in the middle of filming,

1936
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:23.840
but the studio wouldn't let her take a break between

1937
01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:25.960
filming due to the limited production schedule.

1938
01:32:25.720 --> 01:32:26.760
It wasn't a lot of time.

1939
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:30.039
This was the last film director Jeff Burr edited on

1940
01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:33.439
thirty five millimeter film. I believe that most of the

1941
01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:35.920
music was sourced in the previous three Puppet Master movies

1942
01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:37.840
at the time and other Full Moon features such as

1943
01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:41.439
Demonic Toys. Due to personal disputes between producer Charles Band

1944
01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:43.199
and his brother, composer Richard.

1945
01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:47.159
Bann Man, Charlie, you even pissed your brother off. Yeah, no, shit,

1946
01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:50.800
damn dude. And well, I'm not trying to tell tales

1947
01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:53.960
out of turn. I am shocked that there are people

1948
01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:57.439
who believe in Charlie Band having any kind of good reputation. Yeah,

1949
01:32:57.439 --> 01:33:00.840
he has a very bad reputation most people, even people

1950
01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:04.000
who work with him consistently. But I'd also heard stories

1951
01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.119
about him missing his dad off a lot, Albert Band,

1952
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:08.840
who was a very talented director in his own right. Anyway,

1953
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:11.600
I'm not here at gossip. I'm here to cry and

1954
01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:12.359
then smoke cigar.

1955
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:15.279
A scene where the tote messenger smoking was cut from

1956
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:18.119
the finished film due to producer Charles Band's objection to smoking.

1957
01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:20.319
The print of the scene has since been lost.

1958
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:23.600
Well, I mean they did let butt head smoke some

1959
01:33:23.680 --> 01:33:24.439
clove cigarettes.

1960
01:33:24.520 --> 01:33:24.800
Yeahs.

1961
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:27.760
Both puppet Master four and puppet Master five had very

1962
01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:30.079
little pre production due to a tight schedule.

1963
01:33:29.920 --> 01:33:32.319
Two and a half weeks for fucking two movies.

1964
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:35.720
The character of Doctor Piper was originally conceived as a

1965
01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:38.279
much older than in the finished film. For this version,

1966
01:33:38.359 --> 01:33:42.680
Doctor Piper, Joanna Petett, Judy Geeson, and Camilla Sperry were

1967
01:33:42.720 --> 01:33:44.640
originally considered as possible actresses for the.

1968
01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:46.399
Role because when they ended up going with a young

1969
01:33:46.399 --> 01:33:47.920
woman who was probably under thirty.

1970
01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:51.000
Yeah, Sue Tech is another name of the set of

1971
01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:53.760
the God of Deserts and Storms and Egyptian mythology.

1972
01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:56.000
Oh that's interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that.

1973
01:33:56.479 --> 01:34:00.159
So what are your final thoughts on puppet Master.

1974
01:34:02.039 --> 01:34:04.680
I'm blowing smoke rings kid, while the camera actually focused

1975
01:34:04.680 --> 01:34:10.239
on the smoke rings well for me obviously. Yeah, it

1976
01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:14.359
is a very valuable movie to me. So, I you know,

1977
01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:16.039
for me, it's a by it. I owned it on

1978
01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:18.800
the tape my Gramma or my Betty gave me. I

1979
01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:21.319
owned it on DVD, I owned it on Blu Ray.

1980
01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:27.039
But on average, I mean, you have to have seen

1981
01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:29.239
the other movies to really click with it. Yeah, so

1982
01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:31.399
it's a stream it. I think it's a per I

1983
01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:34.920
think it's wonderful that it's on Plex and to be

1984
01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:37.520
in all these places to watch it for free, because

1985
01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:40.079
I think that that's where it belongs, where people will

1986
01:34:40.079 --> 01:34:40.760
give it a chance.

1987
01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:42.960
Absolutely, and I couldn't agree more. I actually gave it

1988
01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:45.359
a rent it with a caveat for stream it. If

1989
01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:47.880
you have not seen any of the puppet Master movies,

1990
01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:49.640
you have no reason to not to stream.

1991
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:49.840
Them right now.

1992
01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:52.680
They're easily available. Yeah, I'm pretty sure one through five

1993
01:34:52.760 --> 01:34:54.680
is what I checked, and those are all available on Peacock.

1994
01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:55.520
I think that's awesome.

1995
01:34:56.079 --> 01:34:59.399
And with that though, if you have seen like one

1996
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:02.239
through three, or you've seen the first one, check it out.

1997
01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:03.920
Rent it. It's definitely worth a watch.

1998
01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:04.800
It's a fun one.

1999
01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:07.840
They get the I would say, the first five are

2000
01:35:08.119 --> 01:35:10.760
are are absolutely worth the watch.

2001
01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:14.439
I like up to part seven, Curse and retroty much.

2002
01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:15.399
Retro's a lot of fun.

2003
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:19.039
But I will tell you also, you could probably get

2004
01:35:19.039 --> 01:35:22.000
away with showing your young kids puppet Master four and five.

2005
01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:22.479
Yeah.

2006
01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:25.159
So if you have a kid who's maybe ten, eleven, twelve,

2007
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:28.560
and you want to like gently introduce them to puppet Master,

2008
01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:31.520
this is the one that probably won't give them nightmares.

2009
01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:33.439
Yeah, I would say, because the first puppet.

2010
01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:35.319
Master especial second one will give you a nightmare secon one.

2011
01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:38.079
The human sized dolls in part two, Yeah, are worthy

2012
01:35:38.119 --> 01:35:39.039
of a nightmare. Yes.

2013
01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:40.399
So we always like get in the show with a

2014
01:35:40.439 --> 01:35:43.560
couple of recommendations. The first one I have for this week, naturally,

2015
01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:44.960
I've got to go with puppet Master.

2016
01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:47.039
Five so you can see the rest of the story fair.

2017
01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:49.640
Puppet Master five nineteen eighty four, the puppets battle their

2018
01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:52.319
most powerful enemy yet as they protect their new master

2019
01:35:52.439 --> 01:35:55.960
from the demon god that created the secret of life.

2020
01:35:56.039 --> 01:35:59.319
And then my second recommendation is nineteen eighty six Dolls,

2021
01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:02.720
a dysfunctional family of threes stopped by a mansion during

2022
01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:05.760
a storm, father, stepmother, and child. The child discovers that

2023
01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:08.000
the elderly owners are magical toy makers and have a

2024
01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:09.720
haunted collection of dolls.

2025
01:36:10.159 --> 01:36:11.600
That's a really good recommendation.

2026
01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:12.920
It's such a good movie too.

2027
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:14.960
I'm gonna go on the bur side of things. Okay,

2028
01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:17.680
if you liked this and you like seeing what Burr

2029
01:36:17.680 --> 01:36:19.520
can do when he's having fun, but he doesn't have

2030
01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:21.760
a lot to work with. A Night of the Scarecrow

2031
01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:24.319
is a great one, and he's basically a scarecrow Freddy Krueger.

2032
01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:26.800
He starts just cracking wise and it has one of

2033
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:28.560
the most uncomfortable orgy scenes.

2034
01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:31.279
Yeah, he does command an orgy at one point. Yes, so.

2035
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:36.359
That's my suggestion. I was blowing really good smokerings until

2036
01:36:36.359 --> 01:36:37.239
they started thinking about it.

2037
01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:38.720
Do we have any emails for this week?

2038
01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:42.039
You know what we do? Oh? Do I have my phone?

2039
01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:43.000
I do?

2040
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:44.000
Do I have my phone?

2041
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:46.119
I was too busy sneaking the cigar and so I

2042
01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:48.479
didn't know about it. I want to surprise you, man,

2043
01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:53.159
I've been sweating, all right, let's see. Okay, so we

2044
01:36:53.239 --> 01:36:56.239
got one from our good buddy Patrick. Okay, he's sent

2045
01:36:56.319 --> 01:37:00.000
in the subject line is Halloween movie awesome love the podcast.

2046
01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:02.399
I hope you will do a Behind the Mask The

2047
01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:05.640
Rise of Leslie Vernon. We'll do Behind the Mask The

2048
01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:09.359
Rise of Leslie Vernon. Thanks Patrick, PS find your yell

2049
01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:09.920
about Dave.

2050
01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:12.560
I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Uh is

2051
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:13.640
that an option for you?

2052
01:37:14.039 --> 01:37:14.680
I've never seen it.

2053
01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:15.800
I know you haven't seen it.

2054
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:17.279
I'd be willing to watch it, Okay, it would have

2055
01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:18.840
to It probably won't be for Halloween.

2056
01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:20.159
No, because we want to do it.

2057
01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:21.840
I would rather show it to you than us commit

2058
01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:23.920
because if it's one that you don't like, you're really

2059
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:24.720
not gonna like it.

2060
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:27.239
Okay, Well, if I do like it, then let's do

2061
01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:30.000
a show on absolutely. But yeah, probably not for Halloween. Yes,

2062
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:32.279
we want to do as many movies that take place

2063
01:37:32.319 --> 01:37:34.960
on Halloween as possible for the Halloween Special. And we

2064
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.000
have five Tuesdays that we're going to be doing our

2065
01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:41.439
weekly spooky do you even movie crossover cks? Which I'm

2066
01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:42.479
really looking forward to?

2067
01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:44.800
So would you like to know what we're talking about

2068
01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:45.880
next week on the show?

2069
01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:48.279
I mean, will I get to cry again?

2070
01:37:48.439 --> 01:37:48.840
Possibly?

2071
01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:50.760
I mean we're going back to school and back in action.

2072
01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:53.239
Then back in school will make me cry? Class of

2073
01:37:53.319 --> 01:37:55.039
nineteen eighty four from nineteen eighty two.

2074
01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:56.479
Such a good movie.

2075
01:37:56.520 --> 01:37:56.840
This is.

2076
01:37:57.159 --> 01:37:59.159
This is one that if you are not familiar with

2077
01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:01.800
look at it up for one or watch it before

2078
01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:04.239
next week, because there's a lot to talk about in

2079
01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:04.680
this movie.

2080
01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:07.920
Simply from the movie itself, It's phenomenal, insane.

2081
01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:12.199
Super Wild is one of the best what's his name

2082
01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:16.039
Roddy mcdowll one of the best performances of Roddy McDowell's career.

2083
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:21.000
It should be just like a trashy piece of exploitation,

2084
01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:25.199
but it ends up being a very good film about

2085
01:38:25.720 --> 01:38:30.119
rough area, about like poor teenagers, about the education system

2086
01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:34.119
letting people down, about students causing their own failures, about

2087
01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:37.479
the frustration of the older generation. I actually have a

2088
01:38:37.520 --> 01:38:41.439
lot of opinions about classifica. So I really love that film.

2089
01:38:41.159 --> 01:38:43.439
Directed by Mark Lester. By the way, who brought us

2090
01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:45.560
Commando and Extreme Justice.

2091
01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:47.960
Yeah, didn't you also do Night of the Running Man?

2092
01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:48.479
Yeah?

2093
01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:51.079
Yeah, Mark Lester I s the nineties were his bath.

2094
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:56.039
Also did Pterodactyl. I like Terodactyl with Coolio with Coolio?

2095
01:38:56.920 --> 01:38:59.000
Well, and before we get out of here, Yes, Sara,

2096
01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:02.399
remind you you can email us at douevenmovie Pod at

2097
01:39:02.439 --> 01:39:04.880
gmail dot com. We love to hear from you guys.

2098
01:39:05.039 --> 01:39:07.960
While sometimes we record the show in advance quite a ways,

2099
01:39:08.640 --> 01:39:10.520
in October, we're going to do that a little less

2100
01:39:10.920 --> 01:39:13.399
so that we can answer your emails as they come in,

2101
01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:15.279
so you can tell us what you thought of last

2102
01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:17.359
week's show and things like that. We're going to try

2103
01:39:17.399 --> 01:39:19.199
and keep it a little bit more loosey goosey.

2104
01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:21.720
I would say, well, probably the next three months, if

2105
01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:23.680
we can swing, it'll probably be a little bit more.

2106
01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:26.000
We'll probably be able to pay stuff.

2107
01:39:26.039 --> 01:39:29.720
Yeah, so email us there, go to dooevenmovie dot com

2108
01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:31.279
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2109
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.119
you want to support us on Patreon, get a T shirt.

2110
01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:36.479
Excuse me, we do. I never drink soda, but because

2111
01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:40.560
I bur I feel you. But we do have T shirts,

2112
01:39:40.640 --> 01:39:42.479
We have a Patreon, We have all kinds of stuff

2113
01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:43.920
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2114
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:45.800
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2115
01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:49.640
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2116
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2117
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2118
01:39:55.720 --> 01:39:57.239
Oh yes, so I.

2119
01:39:57.239 --> 01:40:02.000
Guess that's about all. My mother just texted me She's

2120
01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:04.680
worried because I'm on new medicine. So I think that

2121
01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:07.079
is as good a time as any. All say thank

2122
01:40:07.119 --> 01:40:10.159
you all for joining me for this birthday edition of

2123
01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:13.720
Do You Even? Movie? I thank you. I'm always happy

2124
01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:19.359
to cry on camera anyway. We'll see you guys next Tuesday.

2125
01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:21.680
Sue Tech