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3:05 I'm I mean, he literally just watched a movie about a deeply toxic narciss Okay, I mean I am nowhere near mcgoover. No. I didn't say. I mean like, I didn't say you were mcgocgoovercover. I mean, you know what, so I posted about it in the chat. I don't know if you saw it not. Did you see do you? Do? You know about the Titanic PCP incident with the clam chowder and. I read a little bit about it when you were talking about it. I was just blown away by the fact that, like I've a have been such a huge fan of Titanic most of my life, but be that as many interviews as I've watched as Paxton over the years, because anytime Paxston does an interview, I'll usually watch it because he's really interested. Dude, but was rest in peace? But hearing him tell Larry King that story was pretty insane, And I mean, if for those who aren't aware of it, there was a incident on a shooting day of Titanic where none of the main cast were there, So like Leo DiCaprio, Kate Winslet, they were not there. But it was Cameron, it was Bill Paxton, it was some of the other side characters and then a bunch of crew people and apparently at some point in the lunch PCP got mixed into the clam chowder.

4:13 It happens so huge Hollywood movie, No. One's No, one has never come forward, No one has ever admitted to it. And we're sure he didn't just tell that story to see if Larry King was awake. No, no, because he's not the only one that's been recorded and seen telling that story. Because basically from what I understand from his version of it, because Cameron also has a version of it too, but from his version, they'd gotten through lunch, both of them had a little bit of clam chowder, and one of the set pas come up to them and was just like, hey, did you guys eat the clam chowder? And Bill was like, well, yeah, I had a little bit, and Jim was like yeah, I had a bowl. And he's like, okay, just watch yourselves. There might be something going on with it. And then word got that people were starting to freak out. There was a bunch of singing going around on some of the set. People like locked themselves in an office and started like doing like a roller coaster thing. Apparently Bill Paxton got into his weed bag that he had on set with him and smoked a little bit on top of it. I think where did they shoot it? I can't remember. Actually, he said, where'd you say? This part happened, I don't think, I said, let me check though, hang on, let's see Halifax Nova Scotia. I thought that was it. Yeah. Yeah, So PCP got into the clam chowder on the set of Titanic one day and apparently just chaos erupted. And my first time hearing this story, I was just like, we just got that movie Saturday Night all about Saturday Night Live. I want a movie on this my question?

5:44 Yeah, I mean I have a lot. Yeah. Was anyone like medically confirmed to be on PCP? So let's see, uh rue, Okay. We had a room full of for grips and electricians. One of the guys started talking really hyper. He's a big guy, like six four and says, do you guys feel Okay, let's see. Bill Paxton was a real sweetie. He was sitting next to me in the hallway of the hospital. They went to the hospital. It looks like, okay, here we go. Many crew members were sent to Dartmouth General Hospital. Cameron recalled the incident in two thousand and nine interview of Vandy Ferri, saying people are moaning, crying, Whaling collapsed on tables and gurneys. The DP. Caleb da Chanel is leading a number of crew down the hall on a highly vocal conga line. You can't make the stuff up, is what he says.

6:26 I mean, I do think you can make can make I'm not saying they did, though, But that's see. If it were a drug that I would assume would be on a movie set, yeah it would. I would have less questions. Yeah, if it were speed or cocaine, I would be like, oh wow, But like, how do you get PCP? And you said clam chowder? It says all hell broke loose August ninth, nineteen ninety six on the film set in Halifax, Nova Scotia, when Craft Services provided clam chowder that happened to be spiked with the drug. Halifax happened to be. Halifax was where Cameron filmed the Titanic framing device scenes featuring Bill Paxon is the leader of an expedition that discovers Rose's necklace. So it was so it was with that side of the of the production, So it wasn't like on the major ship. But I just Variety covered the story. Yeah yeah, no, Variety, you know covered it, CBC covered it, Global News covered it. Business Insider covered it. Uh, let's see the Guardian.

7:30 So apparently there are theories, okay that I found by using Google, which means, you know, hey, Gemini, you're trying your best theories on how it happened. Disgruntled crew member or caterer. Yeah, I can see that. This is the most widely discussed theory. According to James Cameron, the director, they had fired a crew member the day before the incident who had been causing trouble with the caterers. That's a hell of a way to get back at them. I love it. It's like, well, you know, if he was like a problems crew person, I guess that could be because they were fucking using angel dust. On August twenty six, nineteen eety six, the Canadian Press reported that nearly eighty people were taken to the hospital from the set of Titanic for what was initially thought to be food poisoning. However, the Halifax Regial Police investigated the incident and found that someone had laced the seafood chowder with PCP.

8:18 So I'm looking at this, I want I want to I want to fully understand this because I don't have any interesting anecdotes that my ear is still somewhat painful. It's okay, I can't prepare to talk about this today. So this theory suggests that the crew member seeking revenge deliberately poison the claim chowder as a way to retaliate against the caterers and potentially disrupt production. However, the fired employee was not seen back on set after their dismissal, making it difficult understand how they could have accessed the catering kitchen. Another theory is prank gone wrong. PCP was known to be used recreationally, and some speculate that someone intended to create a fun atmosphere but misjudged the dosage and the effects of the drug. However, nobody has ever claimed responsible ability for the prank, and no traces of PCP were found on anyone present on the set.

9:04 Hmm, that does sound like a disgruntled so The Vice in twenty seventeen interviewed Marilyn McAvoy, who was a standby painter on set, and she says the chowder was unbelievable. People were going back for second bulls. I really thought about going back because it was so good, and I think that was part of the problem. People ate a lot more than usual because it was so delicious. There was no indication that there was anything strange happening until the meal. By the time we got back from eating, after about thirty minutes, that's when I started noticing something was wrong. Everyone seemed confused. Everyone was having trouble getting their work done. While I was trying to figure out what was going on, everyone else seemed to be going outside. They were all gathering outside of the giant doors of the building we were working on. I also heard later on that as Camp. As soon as Cameron realized something had been put in the chowder, he ran up to his room and forced himself to throw up.

9:49 Hmmm, So there is no evidence that PCP was on the set as far as I can tell, Like, nobody tested, did a drug test or anything. Yeah, but then my question becomes, who said we're on PCP. Well, I'm seeing a newspaper clipping that says Titanic Mystery who spiked the chowder? From nineteen ninety eight newspaper. Some disagreement exists over the exact number of people who were sticking on the type of chowder that was lace a PCP. So, yeah, it doesn't say in regards to anything of confirmation of PCP. I'm on Snopes right now. By the way, I'm just curious because, like what made them decide that it was PCP.

10:35 I do not know. One big thing the police pointed out was PCP was not common in that part of Canada, but is very common in Hollywood. But I mean, I don'ver hear people. I mean, I know PCP can cause euphoria, calmnless, lethargy, hallucinations, yeah, agitation. It must be fun because some people take it for fun. But doesn't say I like, this is a very fun thing. No. Yeah, I'm just curious because like if somebody got it in their head that they had been poisoned with PCP, it could have been some kind of a mass hysteria. All I'm saying is, whoever works at Netflix Hulu and is listening to this podcast right now, You've got a great movie here that you call Abandoned Ship, the story of the Titanic PCP incident, or something along those lines, because this is a story that needs to be told through film.

11:28 Just saying, see, I'm reading an interview with Cameron he said, we have a pretty strong suspicion of who it was, although. It was never proved ever. Yeah, confirmed, We believe the story is. That somebody who had a beef with the caterers, because the first thing we did was fire the caterers, and you know, sure enough we had some leads on that. Of course, the operating theory was that I was such a psychomaniac that the perpetrator was trying to get back at me. But I reject that theory out of hand for obvious reasons. Hm. They officially closed the case on February twelfth of ninety nine, though a ten page report that included redacted statements was assembled, no suspects were identified by the Halifax Police Department. Decades later, however, the incident resurface thanks to the efforts of Tricia Ralph.

12:09 Hmmm, yeah, this is a I mean, this is a fascinating, bizarre concept that they were drugged with PCP of all things. Yeah, I just would expect and just about any other driver. Yeah, that's what I would think too. That's why. That's why when I when I saw Packson's interview for the first time, I was like, holy shit, like I'd never I was just shocked that this this only came into my ear drums in the last I don't know month I think is when I found found this out. I am I can't lie on it is even on the Wikipedia like or like the IMDb trivia page. Probably on the trivia I don't know about Wikipedia. Let me check though. No, I'm curious.

12:50 Think it's PCP pre productions, Like that's a hell of a way to poison people, because I mean, I've heard bad claim can do awful things to you. So it doesn't have a content section for like incident or anything like that that I'm. Saying, Yeah, this is a this is a strange one's. Trivia checking other media like sy Yeah, it's not on the official Titanic page. That's so strange, man. But I mean we're talking The article, like I said, dated back in like twenty seventeen, so I mean they've been talking about this for a bit. It's not on the Titanic IMDb trivia either.

13:31 I'm shocked at that. What a hecks can bad clams cause on those who eat. The most recent article that I can find is Vulture's article from twenty twenty. Two nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, and severe cases it can cause more serious issues. Oh a colliders did one last year. So yeah, it looks like the stories coming back. Well, yeah, it's fascinating. Oh yeah it is. Uh. I was just trying to see if there was any like possibility you could have like hallucinations, because that's. I mean, that's entirely possible. I would think that.

14:11 I don't know, it's just it's just interesting to me that I can't find any evidence that somebody was tested and they were like a PCP. So I'm like, well, then where did the idea that it was PCP come from? I mean, that's all it says in all the stories too, So yeah, it's definitely the drug. Oh, I mean this is you know, oh uh, there's literally an illness called hallucinatory fish. Poisoning that does surprise me. Where in some cases people who eat shellfish, if it's not the right shellfish can cause hallucinations, dizziness, vomiting, weakness. I don't know, because I I just yeah, it's just such an odd why would it be. Why would why would somebody dump PCP in.

14:55 I mean, if they took eighty people to Dartmouth, you would think they would have tested for something and if they could have at that point. Yes, although they may have been like why bother because it's you know, like we're treating the symptoms already. Yeah, I don't know. It just made me wonder if like maybe everybody kind of unintentionally decided it was much more interesting that they've been poisoned, and you know, if the caterers were like, oh, somebody must have messed with the clam chowder, It's like, I mean, nobody tested the clam chowder. Are there any other stories that you can think of, like set poisonings like to this level, because like this is the only one that I can recall. I mean I've heard of, like without any example, like specific examples. I've heard of, you know, like people getting you know, LSD unexpectedly on that unlike smaller movies.

15:41 Have you heard the one about I think it was on the set of Twins that de Vito gave Schwarzenegger a cigar that was filled with marijuana dough. That happened. Did Arnold die? No, he was, he just got very high. There's okay, I'm just telling you, I know, I know, yeah. But all I'm saying is, if you were given a legitimate cigar because smell it, Arnold, Well, well, or at the very least your first puff, Yeah, you would be like what on earth? Because here's the reason I think that sounds like bunk okay, And I could be wrong. I'm just talking based on the basics. Arnold is a cigar man. He is a afficionado of smoking premium hand.

16:26 Rolls shared the story on The Rich Eisend Show. Who did Arnold? Because number One, you don't inhale cigars, So I mean, yeah, you would probably eventually if you puffed and puffed and puffed. But tobacco doesn't smell like at all. No, it does not. And considering Arnold smoked some of the most expensive cigars on Earth in his life, you'd think you'd take one puff and be like, what is wrong with this? Did your cat piss on your Huma door? Well, to add to that, the reason I know that story is because Schwarzenegger, on the set of the Twin sequel, gave Divido a cigar that was full of marijuana. And you see the video of it. Divino smells it right away and knows.

17:06 So weird it just it just sounds like it just sounds like a like a joke like it doesn't I mean, it doesn't sound real, because like, why would you smoke a cigar that smelled like marijuana after you lit it? Divino, while filming the movie Twins with Arnold Schwarzenegger, reportedly put marijuana in Schwarzenegger's cigar without him knowing. As a result, Schwarzenegger allegedly allegedly got very high and had trouble remembering his lines during filming. Divito described Schwarzenegger as being off the charts due to the marijuana. Years later, Schwarzenegger tried to prank Divido by giving him a cigar with marijuana in it, but DeVito apparently smelled it out, which you can see on the video. Well, according to this it was laced, is what they're saying, which I don't even know how you would lace a premium cigar. But also Arnold was, at least in his younger years, he was a very pro marijuana guy. I mean, he smokeswed in pumping iron iron yeah, and says that it was like his thing that really helped him relax after you know, training really hard. And also I think I think he also claimed it helped his appetite because he had to eat like crazy to maintain that kind of bolk.

18:09 Curious when that story came about. So, yeah, that's just a very strange thing. I just don't know how you would fall for it. And then for Devido to get a cigar and smell it immediately go, there's marijuana in there. Arnold should have been able to smell the same thing, I would think. I don't know. The other problem is these are people who lie for a living. Oh yeah, I mean, well that's the thing, but I get just it's one of those things that it's just like when I saw that video and he smelled it out immediately, that was like my major thing. I was just like, how could he not smell it? Because I mean, like it has a very distinct smell to Yeah, it would ruin Yeah, yeah, it would ruin the experience you get. Plus if you're not inhaling, but it's only like a trace amount, then I feel like it wouldn't have that big of an effect.

18:51 I would assume, I would think. But I don't know. That one just sounds because it's also kind of silly. Yeah, that one sounds more like it could be just kind of like something or de Vido obtained a cigar laced with marijuana, like to be nice to Schwarzenegger could be and then Schwarzenegger like because it caused him problems on the set, they kind of turned it into like this, haha. It was like a ribbing thing because Arnold didn't want to look silly. What I forgot about the that I found another poisoning that I forgot about it. You know, there's there's a huge food poisoning on Raised Lost Art. Oh yeah, I'm not surprised that there would be food poisoning on some of these movies because you know, catering, they're human. They have to make a lot of food for a lot of people, and sometimes in really anopportune places, be out in the desert or what have you. So I don't know, it just sounds a little too. The PCP one. I just don't know why everybody's saying PCP.

19:49 It doesn't sound like. It was everyone's saying it. Yeah, So that one, I don't know, but you who know, it could be that like one of the crew people was like, I've done a bunch of PCP and this is PCP. And then they didn't want to like out their grip as saying like that he was a you know, an angel dust head. I don't know, and in that time of the nineties, angel dust was a lot more popular than it is now. Okay, I just found an article top twelve from food Poisoning Accidental on Movies. I'm not going to read it now, but I'll read that later. But that looks like Predator was even one of them too well, and death fateel on the Green Night. I mean, at least something interesting happened on that.

20:29 I was waiting for. Thank you, Yeah, no problem, I got you. No, that's yeah, that's that's a weird one. I don't know. Sometimes I hear set stories that just don't make logical sense, Like last week when we were talking about Carrie and they said that they did this very dangerous stunt with a with the actual actress and that it hadn't been tested. I was like, that doesn't make any sense, Like it was it was a smaller movie, but it wasn't a no budget movie. They had stunt coordinators and stuff. I think that some times it's a miscommunication, like like like she probably told somebody like it was untested, as in she wasn't the one the one like she watched other people do it, but when they rolled camera was the first time she'd done it. And I believe that. Yeah, so, but uh, but I don't know. It's funny because yeah, you hear these stories sometimes and they just don't quite add up in the real world. But see, the reason with the marijuana cigar thing is because as a cigar smoker, and I've been one now, it's it's startling because it still feels somewhat new. It does still, but it's been like almost six years since I had since I started smoking cigars somewhat seriously.

21:38 I remember it was right before like COVID. We we both kind of you got I mean you got into it first, obviously, but we both kind of got back into it right before COVID because one of the things I asked you was to send me links so I could buy my own. Yeah. Yeah, well you were you were. You know, you had a casual relationship with cigars. You know, you'd smoked ones, whatever, and you had your major mistakes and mean whatever, no, no, but I mean I'm not trying to pick up that's part of it. Yeah. Well, because the big dichotomy between us would be that I had never had a cigarette, I'd never had marijuana. I'd never had any of those things. So when I go to puff a cigar, I'm like, how do I smoke this? Yeah? And it's like, oh, you you hold the smoke in your mouth. You don't inhale. So I'd like cool, because I really don't want to inhale smoke. That's actually what got me to smoke My first cigar was when I found out you don't inhale it.

22:22 I was like, oh, that sounds okay. Well, because I still remember the first one you and I spoke together was Deep Rising because we had finished what production was a boggy Boggy Yeah. Yeah, we finished Boggie and we got cigars and watched Deep Rising. I wonder what those cigars were. I think they were Romeo Hoo Romeo they were. They were Churchill Side. I remember that because you you went and got big ones. I got them, Yeah, and I got them right smoke shut down the block. So but no. So having smoked cigars for a while now, and I got really and it became my main hobby. Hearing the like, oh it was the cigar, but it actually had marijuana, and they got all high. That just sounds like something somebody who doesn't know anything about cigars would say, because to some people it's just a really big cigarette kind of who they think it is.

23:03 Kind of like that guy that tried to brag at my birthday party the one time about smoking Cubans and then you had to put his ass under the table. I was being he just he couldn't stop. Well, he was full of crap and he was like, I really like cigars, You've had these Cubans. Then he told like some weird story about like smoking him on the beach of Cuba or something like that. No, it was like it was like the Caribbean or something on vacation. But he was talking about like the guy at the shop was like, Oh, no, you can't use a cutter, use a punch. And I'm like, first of all, that doesn't make any sense because like everybody uses cutters and in Cuba they usually cut them with their thumbnail or they Oh that's totally part. I mean, I guarantee whatever he smoked there wasn't actual Cuban star. I would I wold pretty much guarantee it because it's really bad in the Caribbean, Like there are tricks that you're supposed to do, like you're supposed to look for the the sticker for the import and ship like that. And they don't recommend buying individuals. And if you do buy, you want to buy from like a real place, not like a guy with a little shop, but that and those are the places that are like pull you in and be like you want to cuban cigar and cub a cigar. So I don't know it just it just reeks of like I have questions and I can't find any answers. Now, the PCP thing, who knows, you know, really like who knows?

24:16 It just seems so odd, like of all the things you could poison the set. With, especially if it's not native to the place. Well or if it would be hard to get I mean unless you were just a PCP user, which could have led to why that person got fired. But even then, like would you give up that? That's a lot of it's to make people that sick when they're eating chowder. I mean people put, you know, edibles and candies all the time. They're going to give away their edibles for treat every year. I mean, you know, in the rich areas maybe, but but that's that's that's why it strikes me as a little odd that it's so specific, even though there's no details other than that everybody was poisoned. Yeah, for sure, because they already single stories as PCP, so it had to come from somewhere.

24:56 I mean, I think it came in part from the fact that makes it a much more interesting story. It does, because they could have just had like the worst food poisoning ever. Entirely, they're eating food that's probably not normal to them. See. For for them to come up on to them on set though and be like the the soup's been drugged was something I feel like something was said but just never actually confirmed. It just makes me, yeah, you might be right, yeah, because it just makes me wonder like, why why PCP. Why not you know, Volume or Xanax or you know, something that people just bumped. I mean, they also beat Gaspernov's film Climax to the story, you know, about twenty years ahead of its time. That's funn they did well said, no, no, that's fair. No, I just it's just an odd, an odd story. That's fascinating.

25:44 Oh yeah, I have no doubt that everybody got very very ill. I just I just want a movie. I I don't know why. When I heard that story, I just wanted to see, like the guy that did a stupid, a stupid and futile gesture, like I would love for somebody like that to get in the realm of this story and give us like a Netflix, Hulu original or. Something like It's I could see that there was also something else I wanted to mention real quick, and then we'll get to our movie. And eating shellfish make you hallucinate. Sure it can, no, no. I I accidentally closed that page because it said something that was really interesting about like a hallucinating from eating shellfish, because it called one of the versions was like HCP or something, which made me wonder if maybe there was a breakdown in communication, because I could have sworn there's something that said like CP, like something CP. So I'm just like, I don't know, oh yeah, so not quite.

26:41 But a neurotoxic shellfish poisoning is called NSP, diuretic shellfish poison is called DSP, and paralytic shellfish poison is called PSP. So part of me is wondering if like somebody told them. Or a typo somebody could read their handwriting well, or they. Were like, I don't know how many people are French out in Nova Scotia, But I don't know. It's it's a weird thing, but it's much more interesting than we ate a bunch of bad clams. Yeah, yeah, I will give you that. But but regardless of all of that, let's talk about something more wholesome. More wholesome, more sane. Yeah, but I do want to real quick celebrate man Final Destination Bloodlines, kicking ass, taking names. I'm really happy to hear that. I love seeing all the love about Tony Todd's final role in it. I love everything about it.

27:35 It's gotten me to revisit the other Final Destination movies as well. Did you see the fun trivia that came out over the weekend about it the kid or the guy that stole the movie? Basically that had all the piercings. Oh yeah, he was in uh as the kid in the Vampire. That's funny, Yeah it is. That's it's funny how that works out. It is so No. I really enjoyed Bloodlines, and I rewatched Final Destination two last night, really enjoyed it. I'm gonna revisit three and four and five over the next week or so. Maybe yeah, because I have. I've been really bad about fatigue on like deciding what to watch. So last night I was skimming through everything like I do when I don't know what to watch and I don't want to commit.

28:17 That's the worst part is like I'll. Be like, the worst part is I'll be like, oh, I want to watch this new Blu Ray I got, and I'm like, ah, but you know that's gonna take like an hour and a half and I really want to watch it. And then I'm like, oh, well, then I'll look for other something that's been twenty five minutes looking for something else and be like, you know, you could have just put it in. I literally put on BoJack Horseman last night only for it to get to the intro and me'd be like, eh, I'm not feeling Then I went to like Hulu, got on Bob's Burgers a little bit same thing, and then I finally just ended up watching YouTube. I mean, that's the last bastion of hope of entertainment. I've been watching PS two games that I used to they used to play as a kid, like a lot of the bond Ones, like Complete Walk throughs or like playthroughs of those. That's that's been my go. To thinking about your thinking about your your mortality. Mortality.

28:59 Hey man, I think I'm doing great consider I'm still dealing with his ear infection. A lot. Well. I was whacked out on pain medicine last show, and it's obvious to me anyway. I don't nobody said anything yet, but it just came. I felt it. I mean, I was watching. The best part was David. You guys probably have noticed not a good guy, no, no, but you have a very basy voice. You have a base forward voice, and on the show often you talk very loud. And I actually one of the reasons I wear headphones when we do the show. Usually I can't. I can't wear my ear I can't wear them right now. I'm not It'll make things worse, so I'm not. But it was because I noticed you were actually quieter, like it was cutting down a little bit, especially on those days like when we were doing Freddy's back in the day, when we're doing our own show, those days where I wasn't feeling very good, I'd be like, my god, David's loud, and I would just like, you know, turned my headphones down.

29:55 Not your fault, you're just talking. But last week because my ear hurt, the thing I was trying to do the most was not WinCE when you first start like started like talking. Toward the end of the show, Oh it's heavy, Well, well I was hurting even more so. No, there were like a few times I was when I was going through to pick clips for TikTok and stuff where you'd be like and uh and I could see me go mm hmm, because I was like, ah, the last thing, the last thing. It needs to make everybody think I hate Dave Moore. My favorite thing is, if anybody hasn't watched last week's episode yet, go to the portion where I introduced Stephen King and watch Hen's eyes almost bug out of his head when I talked super fast and super loud, real quick. You were I've never heard you talk that fast in my entire life. Because I had a lot of titles to get through, yeah, you did so.

30:37 But regardless of all of that, Yes, David brought me a movie for our final episode on May They May, May They Rest in And I had never seen this movie. I had never seen a clip from this movie. I probably heard you quote it once or twice, but I didn't know what you were referring to. Guarantee it. And I will say to two thy and ten mcgruber that every time I saw the cover, yeah, I was like, no, thank you. Yah, it's a bad cover. Yeah. And and nothing against the movie. It's just the cover. Yeah, the cover looks silly. It's just it's just Will Forte before he was really really like beloved. Oh he is now and he earned it, I mean rightfully so beloved before he was beloved. He's just got the silly wig on.

31:21 It's got that like that like over glossy comedy poster and thing, and it said Saturday Night Live, yeah on it. That's a lot working against you, it is, it is. Unfortunately we were talking about earlier how SNL movies. There are so many of them, and they're so quickly forgotten, but there are some that became just absolute classics. Oh yeah, I mean and forgotten titles would probably include movies such as Superstar, It's Pat the Movie, The Ladies Man Movie, Stuart Saves his Family, See What's the Other One Night? The Roxbury is Still Pretty Love, Blues Brothers Still Pretty Love.

32:02 Yeah, I think those are really the mains well, and and a lot of the ones that are really huge. People forget their SNL movies like, yeah, not Wayne' World's much of a Blues Brothers. I always forget that's an SNL movie, and the first one technically, but yeah. Then you end up with movies like Wayne's World and Coneheads, which are just like truly incredible film. Yeah, Wayne's World past episode. I mean I love Wayness World and Wayness World too, They're both great. Yeah, but uh, Coneheads is one that I still think like, wow. Actually, you know what's funny though, is, as I say, like what the classics were, I'm looking at a list by release date, it's just the first four and then everything else is like it's Pat Stewart saves his family, Blues Brother two thousand Night at the Roxbury Superstar, The Ladies Man in mcgroober.

32:43 I remember Ladies Man. You could not escape that movie on Comedy Central back in the day they played that incessible. Well I managed to, but no, so so nothing again, nothing against mcgruber, but it just really looked like the kind of movie I would skip. So I did now as time went on, As like I said, as Will Forte became very beloved because he's a very funny actor and a very talented actor. I got curious and you would always talk about it. I brought it over for movie nights several times. Yeah, and I was like, nah, so so you decided to put it on here because we're celebrating it. Were celebrating the life and career of Val Kilmer. Yah, who plays the bad guy in the Grub. He does does a great job, probably one of the last movies where he was like full steam, you know, before he got sick and stuff like that. So an interesting choice for an interesting.

33:35 Movie it is. I mean, I'll go ahead and say at the top of a top of us discussing the actual film that it was. It was between this and Batman Forever. And the only reason that I backed out of Batman Forever is because I didn't want that a to be the first Batman movie on this show. But b he had such a terrible time making that movie that it just kind of felt wrong to pick that as the movie to honor him with. Yeah, I figured you didn't want to do Batman Forever because you would inevitable put it on the show anyway. Oh yeah, you were like We're gonna get to it anyway, so we don't need an excuse. There were several movies that we were gonna do and it was like, we don't need an excuse to talk about those movies. I mean, we didn't really need excuse to talk about Kerry. But no Fit. Well, yeah, I mean carry was a listener's request too. Oh right right, yeah, So with that all being said, Dave, do you want to give the rundown of tonight's film?

34:20 All right, so we are talking about MacGruber from twenty ten one hour and thirty minutes, Rated R for strong crude and sexual content, violence, language, and some nudity. I'MDB synopsis says, former Special operative Mcgruober is called back into action to take down his arch enemy, Dieter von Kunth, who is in possession of a nuclear warhead and bent on destroying Washington, d C. And that's coun conths my synopsis. When his arch enemy Dieter von Kunth steals a nuclear warhead, former Special Ops agent Macgroober must come out of hiding and form a team to stop him. Now pretty solid, there is only one tagline, and one tagline only, and it only needs one. Pretty per Okay, the Ultimate Tool.

35:03 Yeah, that's solid. No, it's perfect. I mean, like, yes, you're done. Mcgruber is without a doubt, The Guy is the Ultimate. Tool, currently available to rent through Prime and Fandango, not streaming anywhere, even though Peacock has the original series, which still kind of baffles me. They don't have the movie, but. Maybe it did a strange choice. Yeah, they they might have had it when it first from here to me, we're talking about a series that came out in twenty twenty two. Well it was also, Oh I can tell you why that's a Universal movie. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, it was made by Rogue Pictures, Relativity Media, Michael's Goldwyn. You know, they're they're team up. But it was distributed by a Universal so that's probably why it's not on there. So our director and one of the riders on the film is Jorma to Coney. He gets his start as the Lonely Island Just Two Guys music video, to which he then gets a job at SNL and O five creates Awesome Town, goes on to direct and wright I'm on a Boat. Mcgruber. In twenty ten, pop Star Never Stopped Never Stopping in twenty sixteen and just hit Netflix again. Yeah, mcgooverer TV series in twenty twenty one, and he's also the director of the mcgroober PEPSI zero commercials, as well as an episode of Knuckles, the New Sonica show. Oh yeah, and is it we should mention?

36:12 I mean we kind of said it, but mcgroober was an SNL skit, which yeah, was after my time watching SNL, so I never saw a single mcgrooverer skit. Yeah, it was. They were anywhere between thirty seconds to like ninety seconds long basically, and they were little pop ups on SNL at first, and it was basically mcgroober trying to diffuse a bomb but failing every time because he would always ask for something really gross, like one of the first episode he asked for a dog turn and none of his team will pick it up, so that's why the bomb goes off. So basically, the basis of mcgooverer was a mcguiver knockoff that was terrible at diffusing bombs, and that was the joke. It became a thing on SNL just by them pitching it, and then Will Forte finally agreed to do it, and then it became a big hit on SNL, to the point that Lorne Michaels went to Pepsi Zero because they were doing a new brand of Pepsi zero sugar, and he was like, what do you think about doing MacGruber And they like, ah, we're not really into it. And he's like, what if I pay some of it? And they're like, okay, yeah, we'll do it, and then they end up being a Super Bowl commercial that made Boku And then that's when Lauren was like, what if we did a movie?

37:11 I still can't believe that. In the two thousands they were doing a mcgiver parody the original mcgiver series. I just looked it up. Do you want to guess when it ended. It's eighty seven, right, No, that's when it around. When it started. When it started, it ran for a long timety four ninety two nty two, so you're out born, so it was off. There wasn't a new episode for over ten years. It was very popular in syndication, so I'll give it that. But by twenty ten it's like, really. I mean, it's the it's the famous why now why now? Yeah? And that's that's that's the thing that Fasci me that. The other part is when mcgruber came out. I grew up when mcgiver was always on. I didn't realize it was a parody of mcgiver. And then when I had the thought, I was like, now, why would they do that?

37:58 That was literally my thought, and it happened out in the livingroom. Little bi go too. For those who don't know who what Macguiver was, it was a TV series from nineteen eighty six to nineteen or to yeah, nineteen ninety. Two, and it was a it was a oh it. Was shot in Canada, Canadian shows, right, Yeah, it was a TV series starring Richard Dean Anderson as mcguiver. This I'm not even gonna look out. I'm just gonna go off my memory. He plays like some kind of a law enforcement guy. He was also a grouper's dad. I forgot about that in one of the sketches. Oh really, yeah, that's kinda did that. They did kind of do a thing with that. So, but he was just this cop with a mullet basically, and his big thing was that every week he would improvise a tool or a weapon or whatever to solve the problem. Going on to the point where it became a verb. I mcguivered a blank you know, uh yeah, yeah.

38:53 I checked into my hotel room and the remote controls batteries were dead, so I mcguivered some batteries from stuff in my bag watching TV, you know, that kind of thing. So it was massively in the nomenclature, it was massively in the culture. So I guess I could see why. Still seems it's a reach. It seems like an odd choice. It's a odd choice. It's a reach. But when you mentioned that it was like a sixty second quick gag, Yeah, that makes me think, like, Okay, I can see why they took a chance with it. Yeah, And I mean clearly, I hate to spoil it, but I couldn't help but see the box office people must have really loved it because they did not go see it. We'll get into that. So the other writer on it is John Solomon. He gets to start on SNL in two thousand and six as a writer, goes on to write Extreme Movie in two thousand and eight, mcgruber in twenty ten, The Women of SNL in twenty ten, Last Man on Earth, which he is a director of in twenty fifteen.

39:45 Oh yeah, because I love that show, at least the first two or three seasons I watched. I really loved it, and that was where I first realized Will Forte was hilarious. Oh yeah. He also writes so the twenty eighteen MTV Movie Awards, seventieth Primetime Emmy Awards, twenty nineteen Golden Globes ap Bio Blessed the Heart Macgruober TV series, which he directs in twenty twenty one. I think you should leave with Tim Robinson in twenty twenty three. So the man's got his stick in comedy and he made Extreme Movie. You said, yeah, I love Extreme Movie. Yeah, I could see. I could see a lot of influence. Yeah, a little bit. Other writer is Will Forte, who will get into in a second. We get to the cast, but the cinematographer buckle the fuck up. I Will Brandon Troust is the cinematographer on this. That name sounds really familiar. Gets his start in two thousand and four shooting a little film called Lightning Bug. I remember Lightning Bug. Then goes on to do Demon Slayer in four as well, The Salon in five, shoots Fangoria, Blood Drive in five, Static X Destroyer video he was a quiet man Broken Glass in this moment music video for Beautiful Tragedy, Pulse two, After Life in two thousand and eight, Pulse three in two thousand and eight, Presence in two thousand and eight, Weather Girl two thousand and nine, two thousand and nine. He also shoots Crank High Voltage. Ah. Okay goes on to shoot Rob Zombiess Halloween two in two thousand and nine, follows that up with Macgroover in twenty ten, Mad World in twenty ten, Get Code, which was a series of coaching videos that featured Sean Payton, Mike Ditka, Bobby Boden.

41:04 Then shoots Rob Zombie Sick Bubblegum video in twenty ten, Rob Zombies Mars Needs a Women video in twenty ten, The FP in twenty eleven, Ghost Writer Spirit a Vengeance in twenty eleven. Okay goes on to shoot That's My Boy, followed by Lords of Salem in twenty twelve, Darkwall This Is the End in twenty thirteen, followed by That Awkward Moment in twenty fourteen, I Love That Movie, followed by Neighbors in twenty fourteen. I like Neighbors quite a bit too, followed by Diary Teenage Girl in twenty fifteen, then follows that up with Scouts Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse in twenty fifteen. I Saw that movie shoots, Let's See The Night Before in twenty fifteen, Neighbors twos Is Already Rising in twenty sixteen, Pop Star Never Stopped, Never Stopping in twenty sixteen, Foo Fighters video for Run the Disaster Artist in twenty seventeen, Wow Future Man in twenty seventeen, Episodes of Barry in twenty eighteen, Can You Ever Forgive Me?

41:52 In twenty eighteen, Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil and Vile in twenty nineteen, episodes of The Righteous Gemstones in twenty nineteen, Dear Evan Hanson in twenty twenty one, Sonic The Hedgehog two in twenty twenty two, Bros. In twenty twenty two, Oh Yeah, Knuckles in twenty twenty four, Night Bitch in twenty twenty four, Sonic three in twenty twenty four and coming soon, The Naked Gun in twenty twenty five, and Coyote versus Acne in twenty twenty six. Wow Yeah, Okay, yeah, he's got a aside from all the rob zombie stuff, a pretty obvious trajectory. I was shocked he didn't shoot the monsters. I was kind of shocked too, But I will say too, Lord's of Salem is one of his most visual films, and I mean that cinematography in that alone is worth a watch. The movie is is wild, but the cinematography in that movie is worth they watch. If you have not seen Lords of Salem, I still think it's one of zombies, if not his best movies. I should get around to watching it, you really should. I mean, I've seen the greatest hits. I saw The Monsters thirty one.

42:50 Did I see thirty one? You haven't seen thirty one? I say, I actually like thirty one. Thirty one is absolutely Rob Zombie doing what he does, which is just like, hey, here's some killer clowns that do a hunger games with these people that break down on their road. Fair enough. I mean, I saw I saw a House on a thousand corpses, Devil's Rejects, saw Halloween one and two. You haven't seen Three from Hell? Have youp. I think that that was it until months Monsters. Yeah, my thirty one, I would say, is watchable. Three from Hell has gotten less and less on me with each watch. I think I've seen it three times? Now do you like it less? I saw it? I saw it in the road show. I actually went to talk to theater. Yeah, yeah, I've liked it less and less first time I watched it. Enough, it's just they So Richard Brake is part of the cast. He's the Wolfman as they call him, and he's just not good with the Firefly clan. Fair enough. I love Richard break but yeah, yeah, he's Oh, he's great. So moving on to our cast, we have Will Forte, who plays Bagruber in the film Get to Start in nineteen ninety three on The Late Show with David Letterman Okay, goes on to work for SNL in two thousand and two, Clone High Campus Ladies beer Fest in two thousand and six, then appears on Drawn Together, Aquatine, Hunger Force, Fly to the Concords, The Brother Solomon in two thousand and seven. Remember that movie, I do. Yeah, We're the only people.

44:04 I wow, I hadn't heard that. In Forever Baby Mama in two thousand and. Eight, Oh man, that one too. The Slam and Salmon in two thousand and nine, Fanboys, Cloudy with a Chance, of Meatballs, Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job in seven, then goes on to do mcgroover Squidbellies, How I Met Your Mother, A good old fashioned orgy, Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar Movie in twenty twelve, The Immigrant, That's My Boy, Rock of Ages, The Watch thirty Rock Conan, The Cleveland Show, Nebraska in twenty thirteen. That's you know what I think That is the time I first really noticed him. Yeah, like as being great because I love that movie. Nebrassa's Fantastic Drunk History in twenty thirteen, Grown Ups two Comedy Bang Bang, Life of Crime, Cloudie with the Chance of Meatballs Too, The Lego movie, Kroll Show twenty two, Jump Street, She's Funny That Way, Seven Days in Hell, The League in twenty fifteen, The Awesome's Moonbeam City, Gravity Falls, Keanu Pop Star, Never Stopped, Never Stopping. Hugh Ti and Stupid gestured The Last Man on Earth in twenty eighteen.

45:00 Man Book, Smart Good Boys, Drunk Buss, which I forgot he's in. Oh yeah, he is in Drunk Buss. Yeah. Suh followed that up with Scoobe MacGruber of the series in twenty twenty one. Late Night with Seth Meyers Studio six sixty six, The Kids in the Hall. I forgot about that. Yeah, weird. He's probably one of the best parts of that movie, to be honest. Yeah, the food delivery guy. Oh, he was really funny, I mean shocking. He was a hilarious man. Weird. The Al Yangovic story in twenty twenty two Rick and Morty, I think you should leave Ruby Gilman, Teenage Kraken, The Strays, That ninety show, Bob's Berger's American Dad, The Four Seasons. He was also a writer on MTV Movie Awards, Third Rock from the Sun, That seventy show, Extreme Movie, MacGruber, Last Man on Earth in mcgroober TV series. Yeah.

45:41 So he writes a lot on the stuff he stars in, especially Uh No, I mean he's obviously very good. Oh he's a four. But I will say I thought there'd be a lot more titles that I was like, really into that he had done, not as many as A thought. You want to know, one thing that I've been thinking about the more I've thought about him, is I wonder if I confuse him and hater every now and then I do not you don't know, Okay, No, they just are way too different they are, but it's just like, I don't know, they run with like the same crowd a little bit. Well, they were both people. I know that. Yes, moving down to our cast, we also have Kristen Wigg who plays Vicky Saint Elmo. She gets a start in two thousand and three and I remember this on the Joe Schmoe Show.

46:21 I remember that too. I watched a video about the Joe Schmoe Show. That's a great story. The first season's phenomenal. Well, the first two seasons are actually a lot of fun. Well, the first one's really wholesome. The whole idea was to like make fun of this average guy, and everyone loved him. He was actually like the nicest, most stand up. Guy ever, genuinely great guy. They tried to Like my favorite moment of that that experiment was they did this whole thing where one of the characters is gay, but he doesn't know anybody's character. He thinks he's on a reality show with real reality. The guy that plays Rickety Cricket if I'm not mistaken, Yeah, and. Somebody comes, you know, after him for being gay, and they really try to get Joe Schmo to be on board with like picking on this guy and he will not know he won't, he will not and he's willing to like risk losing this because he thinks he's on a Big Brother show.

47:10 But he gets a cast member to leave because they have such a strong bomb that he doesn't want to continue the show. Yeah, the old man character. And that's the craziest thing because you could say, like, oh, well, he just wanted to look good. Well, he wasn't going to win the money by being that way, you know. No, it's it's fascinating and and a lot of people say that the production had to completely shift because originally the concept was to laugh at him, and by the end they were like, no, no, we need to celebrate this guy. We need to say like he's become he's a wonderful guy and we're all so glad that we got to be around him and get to know him. That's a fascinating it really is. Obviously watching the whole thing is a lot, but there are some great documentaries on YouTube about the Joe Schmoe Show that really put it into perspective.

47:54 Yeah, and she played the doctor on that show. So to get to start in two thousand and three on there I'm with Her The Drew Carey Show in two thousand and four, June SNL in two thousand and five, goes on to do Unaccompanied Minors, Inemma with a Stigma, Knocked Up in two thousand and seven, Oh Yeah, The Brother Solomon two thousand and seven, Meet Bill, thirty Rock Walk Hard, Semi pro for Getting Sarah Marshall, Ghost Town, Adventureland, Fly to the Concords, Extract, Whip It, The Cleveland Show, then does mcgruber in twenty ten. Goes on to do How to Train Your Dragon, Date Night, Despicable Me, Bored to Death, All Good Things, Paul Bridesmaids, which she's a writer of, in twenty eleven, Friends with Kids, Arrested Development, Drunk History, Hate Ship, Love Ship, Secret Life of Walter Mitty, Her Anchorman two, Skeleton Twins in twenty fourteen, How to Train Your Dragon two, Welcome to Me, Nasty Baby, A Deadly Adoption with her and Will Ferrell, The Lifetime Original Movie.

48:46 Yes, I enjoyed that one. It was fun. Wet, hot American Summer, First Day of Camp. In twenty fifteen, Masterminds, The Martian Zoolander two Tonight Show with Fallon Sausage Party, Ghostbusters, Wet Hot American Summer ten years later in twenty seven, Downsizing Mother, Last Man on Earth? Where'd You Go? Bernadette Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four, Barbin Starr go to Vista del Mar in twenty twenty one, which she's. The writer of that poor movie. That poor movie, I mean COVID wrecked it. But also no one those trailers didn't make any sense. Yeah, they just didn't show anyone. I had no idea what was going on. I wanted to watch it, but like, but you don't want to be the first. Well I can't. It's never at the top of my list, but I am curious.

49:30 I Yeah, I remember, Yeah, I remember seeing the trailers and going what is this? And then I found out all the celebrities every I was like, why wasn't anyone we recognized? Yeah, shown in the trailer really really weird. Bless the Hearts in twenty twenty one, Gruber TV series twenty twenty one, Big Mouth, Palm Royal, and Despicable Me four in twenty twenty four. See now that I'm not surprised by all those titles. She is. She is a phenomenal supporting actress in just about anything. I mean, she's great in The Martian. Yeah, I mean there are so many memorable that Kristen Wigg has done. Let alone, it's like. She like when I was putting that together, I was like, oh yeah, oh yeah. Oh then Marsham was a big one. I was like, fuck, she's in The Martian. I forgot about that. No, it's it's she's excellent. She's a very good foil. Yeah, which is funny because she is so hilarious, but she's really good as the straight person. Yeah, like that's I think her strong power.

50:19 Yeah. Yeah. We also have Val Kilmer in the cast, who plays deeterbon Khan through this episode is dedicated to as we were honoring him. He gets to start in nineteen eighty four on Top Secret, Oh Yeah, goes on to do Real Genius in eighty five, Top Gun in eighty six, The Murders in the Room Morgan eighty six, Willow in eighty eight, Billy the Kid in eighty nine, and Kill Me Again in eighty nine, which I just watched, which is a Southwestern neo noir by John Dall who did Red Rock West Oh Wow. And Kilmer plays a Pi Madson and Michael Madson and the main actress in this I can't remember her name, Whaley is her last name. They are criminals on the run. She ends up knocking Madsen out at a bathroom stealing a briefcase of money. Goes to Kilmer, who's the PI, and is like, I want you to kill me so he'll stop looking for me.

51:03 And I'm not gonna say anymore, but it is one of the one of the most underrated thrillers that I've seen in a while. I've noticed that there are a lot of holes in my Kilmer. Yeah, viewing same, that's what like was that was one. It's currently as we're recording this episode. It's currently on Prime. I think it's going to be there for like another week according to my Prime app. So that's why I watched it. But yeah, kill Me against eighty nine cannot recommend. Enough goes from that to Do the Doors in ninety one, Thunderheart in ninety two, True Romance in ninety three, Real McCoy in ninety three, Tombstone in ninety three, Batman Forever in ninety five, Heat in ninety five, Islanded, Doctor Moreau in ninety six, followed by Dead Girl, The Ghost in the Darkness, The Saint, the Prince of Egypt at First Sight, Joe the King, Pollock, Red Planet, Sultan Sea in two thousand and two, Hard Cash, Wonderland, The Missing, Blind, Horizons, Spartan Minehunters, Entourage, Alexander Kiss Kiss Bang Bang in two thousand and five, Tenth and Wolf, Moscow, Zero, Deja Vu, Commanche Moon Conspiracy, Columbus Day Love Garu in two thousand and eight, Hey fell In in two thousand and eight, Night Rider, Streets of Blood, The Thaw, Bad Lieutenant Port of Called New Orleans, other classic great one, Honestly Hardwired, Bloodworth Magruber in twenty ten, then goes on to do The Traveler Gun Kill the Irishman TwixT seven below, Breathless Riddle, Life's Too Short in twenty thirteen, which is his appearance on Life's Too Short The Warwick Davis Show hilarious because he plays Valkilmer as such a schmuck who's trying to get money for Willow two, but it's actually him just scamming Warwick data. That's funny.

52:34 That's really funny. I like that a lot. Plains in twenty thirteen, psych the Snowman, The Super First Born Jance Bob reboot in twenty nineteen where he played blunt Man Okay, pay Dirt, and then his last film in twenty twenty two, Top Gun. Maverick, which was a really wautiful sendoff, A wonderful, Yeah, wonderful. He unfortunately left us April first of twenty twenty five at age sixty five from pneumonia is what the actual cause is dated to. He also did have a long battle with cancer, which is why he lost as a speaking. One, and that's what made him succumb to pneumonia, was he was very very ill. Yes, but yeah, his I mean resume, There a lot of good movies, there a lot of questionable movies. But still he's I've never seen a bad performance from him.

53:16 I will say, no, I would, I would agree with that. Yeah. So moving on to our cast and wrapping us up, we also have the late Great Powers Booth with us, who plays Colonel Faith in this. He gets to start in nineteen seventy seven with the Goodbye Girl goes On to Be and cruising in eighty skag the plutonium incident Southern Comfort in eighty one, A breed Apart read Don in eighty four, The Emerald Forest, Philip Marlow Private ITV series in eighty three, Extreme Prejudice Into the Homeland, Stalingrad by Don's Early Light, Rapid Fire in ninety two, Hell Yeah, Wild Card, Marked for Murder, Tombstone in ninety three, Web of Deception, Blue Sky, Mutant Species, Sudden Death Future Episode in ninety five, Nixon. I love that movie. Nixon in ninety five, True Woman, con Air in ninety seven. He's the voice at the very beginning that tells Nicholas Cage that he's graduated the Marines. I didn't know that until today.

54:06 Yeah, that's epic. Yeah, but it's totally him, because I pulled it up and I was. Like, oh, that's that's a very recognizable voice, without a doubt. Yeah, you Turn in ninety seven, Joan of arc A, Crime of Passion, Men of Honor, Frailty in two thousand and one. Oh yeah, that's a great film. Second Nature, Sin City, Justice League, Unlimited, Deadwood, the final Season, Mcgruber in twenty ten, The Avengers, Hatfield McCoy's Guns of Girls in Gambling in twenty twelve, Straight A's Nashville, Sin City of Dame to Kill for Moonbeam City and Last Agents of Shield in twenty thirteen. He unfortunately left us May fourteenth of twenty seventeen from pancreatic cancer at age sixty eight. Man, and that's an unbelievable career. Oh yeah, Powers Booth is that guy that if you've ever wanted either a villain or just an actual, like really good second. Powers Booth is a guy you call on No he's.

54:53 Yeah, No, he's got he's got gravitas. It's why you fit very well into this movie. Yeah, by not fitting, Yeah. That's fair. First time watching what was it? Uh? You know, I remember it like it was yesterday. It was about an hour and a half ago. So my first time watching mcgoober, I don't believe I had seen any of the s and l skits. I don't think i'd seen any of them. But I had seen the commercials. I'd seen the Pepsi commercial, I'd seen the super one specifically to the point where I remember I was in my Latin class and this kid named Alan. We were talking about mcgoober because we knew the movie was coming, and we both were like, what the hell is it going to be? So I actually went opening night premiere of this movie on May of twenty ten, and it was me Xander and a couple other of my buds, and we went into this movie really not knowing anything like it was gonna be an R rated comedy.

55:43 None of the commercials could reflect that, so you just didn't know what to expect. Sure by the like first twenty minutes in, I was laughing so much that I hurt because it had just spiraled out of control to what no one could have predicted this movie would be like. Fair, fair enough. I would have to say, it would be weird if if you were like that was exactly what I expected. Yeah, you're you're not well. But it was just everything in this movie worked for my sense of humor at that time and still does today obviously as well. And this is legitimately like a comfort movie. I put on like the like ten days after kilmurd passed, I put this on to commemorate him, but also I was like feeling down and this movie like always cheers me up because it's so bad. Shit, it's it's it's a nutsy movie and and the choices it makes are are very very interesting. Oh yeah, I would say so, So you're ready to get into it, why the hell not. So we start an eastern Siberia as we are coming over a desert convoy that has been completely wiped out. There's bullet holes, there's bodies, we're seeing blood, and we're seeing these guys walk up that have definitely just done the wet work right. And that is when we meet Dieter von Kunth, who comes up in his in his convoy and gets out and we see that he's basically stealing a nuclear warhead and a guy asked him in Russian not to do it, and the first thing that we get words from him are sorry, I don't speak Russian, and he kills the guy.

57:03 It's a solid reveal, and it feels that scene in particular feels very like a legitimate mid tier action of that time. Oh yeah, like massively a lot does, but especially that opening. Yeah, the opening sets up that we have our villain and that this is going to be a spoof on an action movie. But we don't really know it's a spoof yet unless. We find out very quickly when the opening credits start. Yes, because the opening credits, as you pointed out, are basically mcgoover doing all the things that we need learn from mcgoover to do, which is putting things together from rare items he has. He's also playing the saxophone at one point. And also we don't know by this point, and I'll just spoil it here because it's not a spoiler at all. He's supposed to be dead. And this, this whole montage we're seeing of him is like an opening credits to a TV show. Almost.

57:52 Yeah, Yeah, it's just a montage of him doing like epic things that are ridiculous. Yeah, he's he's he's like doing black smithing, but it reveals that he was making a single. Yeah, and then, and not to mention that, we also get the mcgoober theme while this is going on, and people are singing his name and everything. But my favorite line is, magoober, we made a fucking movie, magoop. I mean, they're right, yes, all right. Because we meet Colonel Jim Faith and Lieutenant Dixon Piper and they are searching for the Green Brays that we're supposed to be protecting the warhead. They've been wiped out, obviously, and that's when he realizes they've got to call in their one and only weapon that can fight Deeter von khanf.

58:34 And apparently for ten years everyone believes macgroober is dead. Yes, he's been hiding out in this village. He is found while he's meditating in a chapel, and the way that they reveal that he knows that they're there is they walk in, a candle blows out and he's like, good to see you again, colonel, And we're seeing him from the back and he's got a huge hair bed at this point, hair of head, head of hair, Jesus, Yeah, and he does it like backflip, super ridiculous backflip thing. And basically they say, the guy who we know killed your wife is back, yeah, and we need you to bring him down, which again very nineties early nineties action movie plot. Yeah, but he refuses because he's changed his life now he loves his village, and then gets robbed by the kids in the village, which I love.

59:19 Yeah. Yeah, he's like, they respect me here up yours mcgrooper. Yeah, they hate him, which and as the movie goes on, you realize that they're not wrong. No, No, he deserves pretty much all the alignment he gets. Yeah, so uh, he he does not want to do it at first, so he ends up telling them no and that he's left his he's left that life behind and now he's in this peaceful village. So they leave him, and then that night he has a flashback dream about what happened, and we see that him and his wife, Casey are getting married, and the priest flips through his bible and there's a bomb in one of the carved out in it, and we flash over to Dieter bond Kunk, who you pointed out also says fuck you. He literally just is fuck you mcgroover and then he flows the switch and they just explode.

1:00:03 My favorite is they're they're standing there like like it's like three four seconds after you see what's gonna happen, and they're just standing there like reaching out like no, yeah. Fire just engulfs and then mcgrooeber wakes up in a cold sweat and there's a photo of Comth on the wall. So he wakes up and immediately looks at a picture of Comt mugshot like it's not it's not a flattering picture. He look So then we go to your favorite scene, which is he goes to his grave in his cemetery next to his wife that is raining torrential rainstorm going on. Yeah, it's it's like it's massive pouring rain. Digs up a coffin, pulls out his Macgroober outfit, which is completely laid out in the coffin, and gets dressed completely in the rain.

1:00:44 And this scene killed me because it was just the fact that everything was soaking wet. Yeah, so he's like getting dressed and it's all sopping wet. He gets his car keys, which have of course a lucky rabbit's foot on it, sopping wet. Like, I just thought that was a really funny way to set everything up. And uh, also one of a good half dozen times we see Willforte's ass. Yeah, we see his ass a lot in this movie, a ton a ton, and even more they talk about his ass. They do talk about his ass. So he goes into he goes into the headquarters of the Pentagon. One of my favorite jokes. He goes in, I'm in, and then it just reveals he's in a cafeteria. Yeah, they're like. What I he opens another door, I'm in and then it's in the right the right room. Yeah, very very funny.

1:01:27 Yeah, so that's when the that's when Colonel Faith is telling him that it's count they've got a plan for it, and he's put a team together, and that he's also volunteered Piper to be a part of the team because he's a great soldier. That ends up getting Piper punched in the face because he moused off to mcgroover. Yeah, of course. Well Piper is like being the least shitty. Yeah, played by Ryan Philip Philip. And and he's not being a dick at all. He's just kind of like, who is this guy? And mcgrooverer's like, I'm the worst. So now he goes and gathers this dream team. The first one is pro wrestler Chris Jericho, and all this dream team is ww wrestlers at that time. Yeah, I couldn't then name them all. But his exchange with Jericho's hilarious, like really really funny.

1:02:11 You've seen python your pants. I've missed your dick jokes. Thanks, I've miss saying them, I've miss hearing them. Yeah, oh no, thanks, they're fun to say, they're fun to hear. That's why I listened to them. Then he gets Mark Henry, he gets the great colleague. He gets He goes to see the Big Show, which I was not expecting this joke. Big Show is. Like in a auto body show body shop, and he's like, looks over, he's like hey mcgoverer and slowmotion, and then a guy walks into hand him a drink and they kiss on the lips and mcgrooper's like uh and then off the list. So boy, yeah, yeah yeah mcgroober not not the biggest ally to the games, no, not really so, but he ends up he pulls this team together of just unbelievable muscle men basically because about three of them are like some of the biggest wrestlers physically.

1:02:56 Yeah, and they're in this they're in this van. They're getting ready to go off on the mission. They've this van with all them all their guns and all these homemade explosives. So then Colonel Faith and Piper roll up to see them off, and Faith one more time is like, hey, you know, you're sure you don't want to take Piper as a hell of a man. Faith ends up walking away and Piper and mcgrueber get into it basically just going back and forth again, and he tells them, yeah, you know, I'd love to have you on, but there's just so much you know, husky guys in there, and you know a bunch of us see four explosive that I pack with my own hands, Flash to the van exploding. Behind us, of just explosion. So now, and I had a feeling because this dream team was like a little too perfect. Yeah, they all adore mcgruber. Yeah, they are all massive beastly men. So yeah, they're all dead, all dead, and their body parts are everywhere. He's running up being like you.

1:03:43 Guys, okay, and they're called nine one What call that pro? I mean, one day you'll know what it's like to have a friend and then you'll be sad with he They no, no, no, no, but like no, it's it's hilarious. Call nine one one, Call nine one. It's yeah that thing. Yeah. So it's so now they're saying they're going to call off this operation. Yeah, because it's their funeral. He had had them, he'd send some words and everything, and he's gotten too close to it now. Also, forgot to miss that Vicky Salemo is contacted and before this is well to join the team, which is Kristin Wig, but she declines out because she's also changed her life. Yeah, and she's just practicing music. Horribly horribly. You find out that she was best friends with mcgroober's bride to be, and the way they reveal that is she gets splattered with their lid at the wedding. Yeah, so it's pretty funny, and Kristin Wig plays this very well. She's very understated, very awkward, very nervous, yeah, which I think is very funny. Yeah, and adds a great element to the whole the whole thing.

1:04:41 But yeah, Faith wants to take him off and he's like, you know, I can't do that, and he's like, no, I'm sorry, mcgover. That's the way it's got to be. So Piper comes in to talk to Faith and mcgoober tries to get him to convince him that they can do this together, and he's like, you know, I'm sorry for what I said, offers to suck his dick. At one point. It's a bizarre thing where macgoober basically says like, I'll suck your day. I'll let you, I'll let you watch me something. He says, just tell me what to fuck fuck. He's crying that. And and the best play is like he turns away from me, he turns second doors are down and he basically makes him come out I don't have any lose but copy Toner right out. Yeah, he's like, put your pants back up. So and that was a good moment because mcgroober is very hard to like. Oh yeah, I mean I would say actually impossible, impossible to like. So it's nice to see him be pathetic often. Yeah, it helps.

1:05:33 I do think sometimes the balance was not quite enough. It's not to really keep you from just going wow, what a head. So Colonel Faith comes back in and Piper and mcgroober are groober on the floor of this pants off. It's just like I love it because Powers booths one look and he's just like huh. They're just like, okay, we're gonna yeah, I'm gonna join his team. We got this together. And then Kristen Wigg comes in so she's a part of the team now. So now it's a three person team. Three person team, and their first stop, even though they have the elementist is mcgroober finds out that one of Kunt's Night's clubs is in Vegas and they go and just cause kaows, he just goes on stage and says, my name is mcgruber and I'm here for Kunt and this is one thing I thought was really funny every single time in this movie that they have any possible element of surprise, he gives up gives them immediately.

1:06:20 So now not only has he given up that he's after Coump, he gave up that he's alive. Thought he was dead. So yeah, and I love that. Then the Pentagon people are even like, what did you do? Now they're gonna be looking for you everywhere. And then the next shot is Kristin wigg dressed exactly like mcgroober and she's like, why do I have to be you if everyone's hunting you? So yeah, they can. They've come up with the idea that since he's gone to the night club, they know that he's alive now that they're gonna send people after him. But as they leave the night club, we also have a guy that shouts mcgroober, hey, nice car, dickhead, and that's when mcgroeber says fuck you and also starts repeating this man's license plate numerous times, which is k fb R three nine to two. And this is a fascinating thing because it keeps paying off later and like he finds the Felipe's character hyper a notepad with that number written over and over again, and then the illustration of him pooping on the guy's and it's I mean, and they're drawn like a child.

1:07:15 In fact, his handwriting looks like a child with schizophrenia. Yeah, which is which I thought was perfectly planned, because it becomes very quick, very obvious, very quickly that mcgruber is something else because when they talk to count afterward, they say all the stuff and Kunt is like what and they were like, well, what did you kill him? Or whatever? They're like, we thought he was mentally challenged. I thought that was freaking hilarious. So now we know that Kunth knows he's alive. Yep, they're sending men after him. And also I love this scene with Kunt because a Val Kilmer was a it was a painter, and I mean, he did a lot of paintings for one, so he's actually that's really just him probably doing one of his paintings. But it just shows what a what a good actor he is in portraying like a Bond villain, like this is such a Bond villain moment that he nails this entire movie.

1:08:03 Oh yeah, so now that Kristen Wig is dressed as him. We have this this obscenely painful scene where she's buying a coffee as mcgruber. Because he told them where he was gonna be was was the Starbucks. And so she's buying this coffee and he's got the earpiece, so. Walking her through every element so that she does it like him. So he's like, no, no, take that tip back. That wouldn't be I'd buy a tazzo ta I wouldn't tip, you know, take the tip back, and she's just like really awkward. But after all of that, then he's walking her through taking a sip of the tea. He's like, now, bring the cup to your mouth. You're going to tilt it until the tea is in your mouth and then and then gunshruster are firing and they fake you out and make you think Kristen Wiggs being shot at. Yeah. No, they found the vein the twenty blocks away because that's a joke, is that. Because he's like, she's like, you know, well seven blocks away, Oh you got me, it's more like twenty.

1:08:50 Twenty blocks and he's like, we couldn't. It was the closest we could get. And then he was lifers like there were so many for the closer spots. Yeah with meters. Oh no, it's a great great So the van is getting shot up. Vicky's screaming in the coffee shop and just making a scene, and. Because she's hearing in her earpiece them getting shot up, she's dropping the floor. All these people in the store just looking at her like she's completely insane. She was talking to herself first and now this. So mcgroover ends up getting a wet mop. He gets the car started, They push the van forward and run has Benterdad, which is the guy that's shooting after them, and they crutch him against this freaking. Track smash him good. And we've almost forgot to mention mcgroober won't use a gun. Will not use a gun. No, it becomes a bigger point later, but he won't use a gun. That's why he does all these weird improvisational weapon things. He won't use a gun.

1:09:36 Won't use a gun. And this is also at the point we find out too that he really has no idea how to solve like a mystery, like he can't put together like what's going on? You could have just stopped it. He has no idea. It has no idea. Well, that's my favorite thing was when he flips through the notepad clues one. Well, and at one point he says, like, what's your plan is? Like he says, don't worry, I have a plan. I like to make it up as I go, And it's really not what a plan is. Yeah. It' such a great such a great guy. Because also it's like, why did they want him for this mission? Yeah? Like what the fuck? So? Uh? They find Hassa's car. They find a huge thing of money in it. They find GPS to this warehouse, and they also figure out that that Piper figures out that they're gonna buy the pass codes for the nuclear weapon, and so they decide to do another operation and go to the warehouse and this time they dressed quick again.

1:10:23 Kristin Wigg gets dressed up as the guy they just killed. She has like a facial hair and a wig. Again why not, well anyone other than her Piper's dresses. Mcgrooeverer that's the best and real too. They pan over. He's like, and why am I mcgroover He's like, first off, you'll never be mcgree He's such a dick. He's always saying something mean so, so then if I remember, was this the distraction? The first the distraction? So he pulls out a salary sticky. He's like, I'll cause a distraction. He walks out with his pants completely off, covering his penis yep, with celery sticking out of his ass, just kind of dancing. Dancing, getting getting the guard's attention, so that Pipeper can take the shot. Yeah, but Piper's just like what the hell. He's like, take the shot now, So he shoots all three of them. He's like, see, I just killed three guards without a gun. He's like, actually, eyeshot, I mean yeah, when they were distracted by me. And then he also tells him if he ever wants to do the cellary trick, you're gonna want to start with the thinn now, I know, like the thicken now, I know, the thin, you know, might seem a little bit more eBrace, but it'll you know, it'll get thin, it'll fall out. And he's like, I'm never gonna do that. Never say never ever, say never ever, never ever say never ever.

1:11:27 So now Kristin Wig walks in dressed as the guy yeah, and it's really funny. Mcgover goes he goes, you know, just take it easy and you know, get in there there by the way, they're gonna take your hospital. She got nothing worry about it. She walks in. But that's not hass She's not even through the doorway. They're like forty feet away, and they immediately are like, that's not hast So they starts to open fire. Yeah. Luckily at that point Piper and mcgruver up well really luckily Pipe Piper is up there, so they starts shooting back at them, and mcgoover goes to making a handmade grenade, and he even asked Piper at one point he can have his gun to stir something with, and he's like, no, use your finger. He's like, watch your tone, my god. Yeah, And so they drive off after killing a couple of bad guys. His handmade grenade made out of a tennis ball lands and sit pups well the best person it sits for like four or five.

1:12:15 Seconds, so that completely got blown to the ens. Vicki comes up and she's like, hey, guys, a peda jeans a peed them. Yeah, super funny. So they don't have the pass codes, they have no idea where Kuntsman is going. They got the money, they got the pass codes, so now like legitimately they have a nuclear weapon that they can use. Yeah. So that's when he's like, you know, I don't know what our next step is. And suddenly, hass his phone starts ring and he's like, give me that, I'll trace it. And he gets on it and he's just like, listen, you said of bitch hawks and are dead and you're next if you don't tell me. Oh, they hung up. Yeah, they're like and the best person. They say, oh he hung up? Did you trace it? Like, we need twenty seconds? And my first thought was that's not even that long. To second she was twenty seconds and Piper goes, that was maybe two.

1:12:59 And then the phone rings. Here's the phone ring. He's like, see another chance, and he starts saying the exact same thing and realizes that's not the phone that was ringing. Yeah, it was his own phone and. Answers it is telling him and he's like, you know, element of surprise is blown, Like, you know, by the way, cunt's having a charity event. Oh no, this is where he tells him. He goes, cunts have a charity event tonight, and he's like, oh yeah, we know all about we're gonna be there's like absolutely not a group. We're like, right now we have the element of surprize on our hands. Cunt thinks you're dead, and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he definitely will not go to the Galla smash cut. They're going to the Galon. Yeah. And he's all he's done because he has this mullet. All he's done is comit down. Yeah. So he looks like the biggest weave. Yeah. And and this is the scene where we start to get this hint that he is kind of in love with the Christian Whig character, because she says like, I'll go get information out of that cansome guy, and it just becomes an argum about that guy's not really handsome.

1:13:48 I mean that's a no. I want you to follow that old man. If you like that guy, go marry him. Give up the mission. Yeah, go marry give up your job? Do you want to give up your job? No? Okay. We should also mention that his low profile entry, because that's what he tells Piper not to worry because he's gonna be low profile. Pulls up in his corvette, is blaring take me home tonight. By Eddie Money. Walks in flipping off the door. People. No, it's it's yeah, it's it's it's obsceeding, and so he says he's got some business take care of first, and he goes to cunts bathroom, which we'll get to you in a second. He comes back, he's talking to Vicky, tells her that he took an upper decker, and then he also goes to find Kant, who is playing cards at his own party, and the guy that he's playing with is the Senator, and he tells him that cunts bluffing.

1:14:28 The Senator ends up losing seven hundred thousand dollars in his pissed. And then their their confrontation is just kind of it's it's oddly benign. Well, the one thing that I want to point out is he goes to Kunt and he's like, you know, I, you know, I had a team. He's like, yeah, I had a team too. He's like, I had assembled all my favorite mercenaries and I had them in this room, but I also had this homemade C four so it blew up and they blew up. He's like, oh my god, you're never gonna believe the same thing. Happened to me. He's like, actually, that didn't happen to me, because I'm not a fucking idiot that it's so good. It's so good, But it also is a little bit of showing the cards of the ridiculous reveal about what their history is together, that they kind of talk to each other like friends almost.

1:15:10 Yeah. So yeah, yeah, he's. Getting ready to get into a fight with this man. He tells one of them that he's going well Derek Meers. He tells him that he's gonna punch him in the eye. He's gonna kick this guy right in the balls. Then he's also gonna get one throat rip in. He think it's gonna be this guy, so anytime they're ready, gets thrown through a window. But he doesn't just get thrown through a window. He goes through the window, lands and goes, ah, my back. He just starts complaining about how bad it hurt, which is so much funnier. Derek Mehers breaks the radio, throws it out because he has a car radio that he takes Where is. His tape deck from his car? Yeah, so that it won't get stolen everywhere he goes in his hot shit silly old car. And one of the best jokes throughout the movie is there's always like a kick ass song that he's getting into his car too. That's like the total action Battie the tune that you would think, and he changes it to some soft rock some every time.

1:15:55 No, it's no, there's a lot of really funny stuff. It's just the fact that he has this doesn't care about anyone's life mentality is really fascinating because I believe is this the part where they go. Back to the Benagon. Oh no, uh okay, not so not yet when Felipe becomes this human shield. Oh no, no, yeah, that's all that's coming up. So they go back to the Pentagon, and that's when Faith reprimends him, takes him off the case. And that is when we also cut back to kunt who is like, you know, hey, great party, would love to know how mcgroober out in here, and Derek Mears admits it with him. He stands in front of this blank canvas, shoots him in the head and he's like, okay, now, somebody go kill mcgroober and hang that in the foyer. Yeah, somebody kills mcgroober and somebody hang that in the foyer, so little modern art. Yeah. So mcgroober is taken off now. So they are sitting at his trailer and they're having some beers, and that's when they explained the history of him and cunt.

1:16:41 Oh my god, I'm gonna pull up the quote, up. The quote because this is this is so good, because he's like, I have no because she's like, why would he Why did he kill your your wife on your wedding day? Yeah, And he's like, I don't know. I could never figure it out. I've been racking my brain forever to this day. I have no idea. We actually all went to the same college together, which we flashed back to them. In college and Val Kilmer's got hair playing a guitar. Marculous blonde wig. That's so nineties. It's great, believe it or not. We were very close friends. Then after graduation he got engaged to her. He asked me to be his best man. Right about that time, I started banging her and mowing her box. She was actually the first person I felt comfortable enough around to let eat my butt. Anyway, Shortly shortly thereafter, she left him for me. She was actually carrying his child at the time. I asked her to terminate it obviously so we could start fresh, and she agreed. We were so in love and he took her took that from me.

1:17:30 So he has no. Idea that he's literally done everything awful to this guy you possibly could. And now you're like, oh well, even Piper's like, that's really fucked up. Mcgrooper and was like, yeah, but he. Thinks he means about his wife dying. That's mcgrooverer doesn't even understand that. He means what you did was fucked up. There, no, that is. So they're drinking beers. Vicky goes off to the bathroom and that's when Piper goes to grab another beer. Mcgrooverer sees the gunman and moved in and he tells Piper to get down, goes behind him. Right before that, oh yeah, go ahead. Right before that, he told Piper like, you know what, you're not so bad. I like you. Then when they come in, he literally uses his body as a shield. He's taking bullet after bullet after bullet after bullet, flips him around. When they get back to Vicky, he then puts him over the back of the car to take more bullets. As they're starting the car. Now, as they're driving away, she says, is he dead?

1:18:20 He goes, of course he's dead, And then you hear rightfully Pey going like uh and he's like, how did you know? I was wearing a bullet provests He's like, you were. Wearing a bullet per vest, grins great, that's great God, And Piper's pissed obviously. He's like stop the car and he's like why. He's like, you just used me as a human shield and he's like, no, I didn't. And Vicky's like, yeah, you kind of literally in every way. And at first I thought he was going to be dead and which one was going to be? Like, man, they're really the balance is really hard on this comedy. Yeah, but no, that was a nice payoff that he was wearing a bullet pro vest. But he took like fifty sixty bullets. He took a lot of bullets. Yeah. So now mcgruber's basically on his own. Yeah, he's on his own. So Piper gets out of the car and they go back to Vicky's house. Vicky pulls the bullet, or pulls a bullet out of Gruber's leg.

1:19:01 This leads to a whole sex scene that is one of my favorite jokes in the entire movie. So so first it's just like the music swell and then it's like she sticks her finger in his belly button. It's all slow mo and sensual. Then it just smash cuts this wide shot of him just making the most ungodly sounds like, and also being kind of a. Jerk because he's still like, keep telling her things. She's trying to talk dirty back to him, and he's like, I got this, I got this. She also told him she was a virgin, not for long, not for long, A great horrible line. So he finishes up with her and then immediately like storms off. Yeah, He's like I gotta go, and she's like what's wrong, And he goes out to his car, drives to the cemetery where he sees Casey's ghost and he's like, you know, I'm sorry I had sex with Vicky and Casey's like, no, it's okay, you have to move on. And Casey suddenly comes back into reality. She's got the ghostly veil at first, then when she gets close to him, they year her kiss and then they start having a sex scene.

1:19:59 But it's the the exact same scene almost except in the graveyard, So so the same slow music build the touching and then except they show a grave guy who works at ground and just seeing him banging nothing the hands down. But then we cut back the casey wow wow wow wow. So if you're not keeping track of that, dear listener, he had sex with Vicky, then in a sham, goes to the cemetery and has sex with his wife's ghost. Yes, And then as he's getting out of there, he realizes that the car is there the guy who messed with He's like, what a coincidence. So as he's keying it, Faith calls.

1:20:41 Him and tells him like, look, you know this is what's going on, Like we have to stop him, and he's like, he's like, we just don't know where he'd be king the car. He's breaking all the windows as he's talking normally. But then he looks inside the car and sees a newspaper. That says the State of the Union is coming up tonight, but tonight by the way, like really quick. Right now, And he's like, I think I know what it is. So then he goes to his car, pops the trunk, grabs a gas stand, continues to fully destroy the car. So as he's walking away, this car explodes. That's just petty revenge and the driver goes what the hell. He's like, fuck you dude, it away. So while that was happening, we also the call from Faith told him that the guy Dieter bun Kunt that he was actually clean. He was, oh, yeah, they couldn't find any evidence, couldn find anything on him, and that reveals that the senator is actually corrupt. He ends up shooting Colonel Faith when they get off the phone.

1:21:27 So now we see that a senator was corrupted by Kunt who was at the party who lost the money to him, right, So now mcgruber knows what's up. He also realizes that Vicky has been kidnapped as he goes back to her house because he gets a call and it's Vicky's phone. Kunt answers it and basically tells him that you know, this is what you're gonna do, and also, if you like show up anywhere near around me, I'm going to break Vicky's phone. He's like, I think I've got it. The phone is Vicky, right, and he's like, yess. So now we get into our action movie. Yes, thrilling conclusion. So that is when on their way to Kunt's compound on he picks up Piper and he agrees to do one last mission, one last mission with him, and that is when we get the montage of mcgroeber going to his trailer and loading himself up with all his accouter caps and pins, cymbals, paper clips, pushfins, and of course a celery cellery stick, yeah, cellar stick in his butt.

1:22:19 So they get to the compound and they end up fighting their way in, and that is when they get into a huge firefight, like they've been ambushed by this point, and he's telling mcgroober that you need to use a gun and he's like, no, I won't do it. And he's like why and he's like I don't know how. So then Piper shows him how to use a gun, and mcgroov the rest of the movie, anytime he has guns, which is usually dual wielding, it's just has the funniest face. And he's just flailing his arms fire. He's like, this is great. He's not hitting anything because they're shooting next to each other at one point, well, and at one point he's like, I got that guy in Philip is like, I'm pretty sure I did, but great effort. Yeah, So they get their way into the compound. Mcgroober once again blowing the element of surprise because they get to the control room and he gets on the PA telling cunts to come down here and that you know, they'll do some throat rips because we also see the mcgoover gets his first, if not two throat rips in of the movie.

1:23:08 Yeah, he just rips people's throats out. So luckily this actually turns out to be somewhat strategic. Yeah, because they leave the the base or the theah. They leave there, everybody comes in to catch him, but then they find even more guards. They have to keep fighting and fighting. My favorite is the guards get into the control room and fucking a water cup a Dixie watercups spills onto them and it's though they've the guard that's dead because he threw One of my favorite jokes is he throws a box the throat lossages down in front of the guard and he's like throat LODs. He's like, you're gonna want to take the whole box and the throat, but he has the guard given the middle fingers and it just a sign on and says, Haha, you're all wet. Yeah, it's so silly. So they end up getting captured by Kuntsman.

1:23:51 They're brought to the compound along with Vicky. Because my favorite part is they go into Vicky's room where Vicky was tied and she's just like a dog that got into a leash, like the wrong way. It's like completely like tumbled over in the chair and wrapped all. All tangled up. And at one point, I do want to mention mcgroober tells Piper that he's like rehearsed his like big thing to say to Vicky. I've been saying it in the Oh no, no to say to Hunt. I've been rehearsing it. I'm like ready for it. You're gonna love it. He's like, well, I hope I get to hear it, because, oh you will. The whole movie he keeps saying, time to go pound some cunt. That's that's his catchphrase for this. And also I'm gonna cut off your dick and shove it in your own mouth. I mean, that's less a catchphrase, is just a constant threat. He's always making yes because as we get to the conclusion, he's he's face to face with Kunt and he's been captured. At this point, Kunt reveals that he uh, you know, he's he's like, you know, why'd you kill Casey? And he's like, I didn't you did?

1:24:41 And he's like, what do you mean. He's like, it's all right here in your manifesto, which is just pages and pages of loose leaves aple together that says fuck you America mcgroober's manifest And the. Best part about this is mcgruber does not get what he's getting at. So he goes like, I don't know who wrote that, but it wasn't mean. He turns to believe you gotta believe me. He's like, I made it, mcgoover and he's like, oh, what the what the fuck you asshole? It's pretty it's a pretty solid moment. Also, they nailed the fact that it looks like it was made by a child. Yeah. So that's when he's like, you know, can we get to everybody's death? You know, I'm gonna turn Washington d C. Into a pile of ash, but first, let me have some fun before we kill you all. Goes to macgoober, holds up a pair of scissors and cuts the mullets down.

1:25:23 Which was really funny because it's like super dramatic and it's super like screaming out. Mcgoover is just going through all these facial expressions and then gets rageful. And my favorite thing is Val Kilmer's cunt puts the hair on his back and he's like, I'm Macgoover. Time to go pounce some cunt. Yep buck you fuck you fun And meanwhile this is happening, mcgoover just goes rageful in one throw, grabs both the guard's throats and rips. The mountain one grab and yeah, I mean so at this point, we're at the nuclear warhead that was stolen that's going to be launched at the White House. I believe they've killed Kunt's men. Cut is now handcuffed to the nuclear to the to the station for the nuclear warhead, and that's when he's like telling Vicky that you know, I've got something to tell you. They've got three minutes left to disarm this warhead. And he's like, okay, we'll toss you those pliers, toss me this, this, this, and then comes back and he's made a wedding ring.

1:26:13 It's like Mary, she's like, yes, but defuse. It's so funny. I got a handed to him the making the wedding ring. Yeah, so good. So he goes into the warhead, pulls it down, and he's like, holy shit. He's like, there's so many wires in the three gree wire guy, there's a green one. Oh god, there's a bunch of green ones. So then he just decides to rip the warhead core out. He's like, well, now you know, without a warhead it's gonna be very He's like, you idiot, it's full of enough phosphorus to still destroy the White House, that kill the president in all of Congress. Yeah, he's like, well, he digs around, he pulls out the GPS track, the flight plant thing, and he's just like, well, now we can't flay anywhere. And he's like, which means we have thirty how long? Sweety thirty second? It's thirty seconds to get out of here while you die.

1:26:54 My favorite is when he pulls it Outvalcolm goes weak, right, no, no, it's super good. So yeah, they get out, the explosion goes, but right before they leave, counth looks over and he sees an axe next to him, So we we get an idea that maybe he didn't die. They get outside, the explosion is crazy. Unbelievably big and and yeah, just and loud. And cut to black. Six months later, and now we're at a beautiful wedding, At a beautiful wedding of mcgroober and Vicky. We see that Casey's ghost is there because the preacher is like, if anybody thinks these two should not meet, speak now, and Casey peeks around behind it, and then we also see mcgoover's comrades. They're all ghosts there too, like all and they're in tuxas. They're all happy, so everything's going fine. Uh, And then he starts to get a sense because everything's going just like how we saw the last wedding go and he sees across the way that Count now has an RPG. He fires it right at them, kills the priest, which the priest dies and both blows up wedding.

1:27:50 Nobody else gets blown up. Count swarms in on him. They get into a fistfight and he, uh, mcgoober gets the best of him, and he's like, cunt them, waiting you know, for a while to say this time to suck your own dick and he's like, come and get it, and he pulls his pants down, revealing that kunt lost his dick in the explosion, and he's so mad about it, so mad so that he's like, are we done here? And mcgroop's like, we're not done. Head butts him, beats him up, throws him over the side of a cliff that they're on for the wedding. Apparently, Yeah, the the trellis was in front of a cliff, so he pushes him off the cliff, then grabs a gun from Piper because Piper just has a rifle, and as he's falling, he's shooting him full of holes as he's low ocean. Then we cut the regular motion, still shooting him. He hits the ground. We see him splat. Mcgoober goes, fuck you dude, shoots off a rocket at him and then turns around with the gun and goes, I do And then we get well you forgot that.

1:28:38 Then he peas on his bot his body the corpse and it starts raining and you see him just pissing over the edge. Yeah yeah, and then yeah mcgrooper, and then we get pictures of the wedding. We see that mcgoover from Piper. Well. Also the colonel survives somehow. Oh he's just in arms and shot at point blank range. I love that. Ye, Piper gets him a radio, him and Vicky share their first kiss and then fuck the dance floor. There's also like shots of crime scene tape. And also one of my all time favorites is the bartender at the wedding is the guy from the coffee shop that Vicky took the tip back from, and we see mcgover's written a sign that says no tice. Oh my gosh, no, it's it's it's a wacky flick. Yeah. Mcgroover is a horrible human being, despicable well truly, but it was a very funny movie. It's very I could see why it didn't do very well.

1:29:26 Oh yeah. In fact, do you uh do we wanna do you wanna sew that that info budget on the film was ten million. Opening weekend is May twenty third, twenty ten. It comes in at four million, four hundred or four million forty three thousand and then sitting weekend, Yeah, that four million it did. Opening weekend US grossing was eight million. Worldwide is nine million, three hundred and twenty two thousand. Dollars, David. That means that like a lot of people went to see it opening weekend. Yeah. Oh, I've got a theater statistic for you. But that like it. It had no word of mouth. It fell off entirely. Wow. Filmed in Albuquerque, New Mexico, suffered one of the biggest theatrical falloffs in recent cinema history when it dropped from two thousand and four five hundred and forty six cinemas to only one hundred and seventy seven in the US in just three weeks. Gross just shy of its ten million dollar budget. Parade listed it as the second biggest box office flop of twenty ten. Wow.

1:30:27 That's brutal. Yeah, man, I I think it was a little late for that style of humor. Yeah. I think if it had come out in seven or eight, it might have done a lot bigger business because this being so raunchy, being so kind of mean spirited was really kind of falling out of favor, because you know, then Bride'smaids comes out and it's much more in that. It kind of cemented that kind of like Appatawa adjacent comedies, Yeah, where they were very similar in tone. I mean they could be a little bit more wacky or ridiculous, but that was really kind of the death knell of the really wacky comedy. Lee David Zitlow, creator the TV series macgo mcgeiver, felt that his legal right to make the film version of the series was compromised with the release of Macgroober. His lawyer sent several cease and assist letters to the production company and met with litigators, although ultimately no legal action was taken.

1:31:20 I mean. I got nothing on that's according to director Jorma Taconi. The first draft was one hundred and seventy five pages. Oh my god. Yeah, although rarely used. Mcgoover's first name was Angus, but mcgoverer was never revealed. H Will Forte said on Bill Burr's podcast that he was paid twelve thousand dollars for the film. I'm sure he was going to get a great back end when it was a huge success. When one of the Ecuadorian kids steals the necklace from Macgoober, he says, uh cchup a excb c hup a m e l o chupomilo jupemilo MacGruber. In Spanish, it means suck at Macgrooeber. Oh yeah, yeah. Valkimer's line, sorry, I don't speak Russian is easter egg a reference to Kilmer's earlier movie The Saint, where he says that same line.

1:32:10 That's a I didn't even think about that. Yeah. Uh. The journal, which contains the multiple pages of kfb R three ninety two Piper Fines, was actually made by Will Forte himself while on set. That's funny. Yeah, that was hilarious. A major influence on the film was Die Hard from nineteen eighty eight, which is director Jorman Tocmy's favorite movie. To Coney actually located and used Prop C four explosives from that movie for the action sequences in this one. In addition, Balkilmer and Power's Booth were both told in pre production meetings with Will Forte and to Comy to act like your Inagel Silver produced film in nineteen ninety eight or nineteen eighty eight. Yeah, they they hit that. I honestly felt like they were really lampooning, like the ninety eight ninety nine action movies that were really big.

1:32:50 But yeah, I could see that for sure, because yeah, they were playing it huge and serious. The will Will Forte owned the Mazda Miata that mcgrueber drives in the film. Forte revealed that he sold it for fifty thousand dollars for charity, and he personally delivered it to the buyer in Texas. The man who purchased it then taught his son how to drive stick shift and the Mazda. Forte also brought a Ruber's style costume for the driver to wear. They were like, what's this costume from? And he's from mcgruber and they're like, from what. The cast includes six active at the time, WWE wrestlers Dlip Singh who was the Great Cali, Glenn Jacobs who was Kine, Paul Wright who was the Big Show, Mark Henry Chris Jericho, and Antonio Burke Junior MVP. That was a great touch, yeah. Will Forte refused a body double for the controversial sex scene between Mgruber and Vicki Selham Saint Elmo. However, he surprised to Comy by expressing some discomfort at the number of people who were on set at the time. Tacomy then said he didn't know Forte cared about being naked in front of strangers.

1:33:45 Well, you know, that's the way to find out. Kristin Wiggs shot her sex scene on her birthday. In the first sex scene, Vicky is constantly moving her head side to side. The reason is because Will Forte's sweat was dripping onto Kristin Wig. Director to comy, I assumed he would get an NC seventeen rating because of the sex scenes. Maya Rudolph was about eight months pregnant when she shot her scenes at mcgroover's as mcgoover's wife. Yeah, they did keep her. Yeah, yeah, I could see that they were hiding something. Val Kilmer and Will Forte almost ended up being on CBS hit series The Amazing Race because of the film, where they became good friends. Kilmer later stayed at Forte's house for a few months while searching for a new LA based home for himself and Forte. A huge film of Tar introduced Kilmer to the show. They were about to apply as a team when the other work commitments led to the idea being dropped. Basically, their agent said, no, you can find a whole article on it that I think it was. Variety did recently. Powers Booth and Val Kilmer also appeared together in Tombstone in ninety three on the Lonely Island. Set and Seth Meyer's podcast Tacomy said the two of them kept the comedy stars all huge Tombstone fans enraptured with behind the scenes stories about the movie.

1:34:52 Oh yeah, yeah that makes sense. And lastly, among Christopher Nolan's favorite comedies, he quoted it constantly on the set of The Dark Night Rises. Wow, I got nothing. Wow. What are your final thoughts on twenty ten's mcgroober. It's a stream it. Yeah, it wasn't earth shattering. It's definitely like it was out of step even when it came out, which I think is why it just died. Yeah, a horrible death. But it was fun. It had some charm to it. I was there were parts where I was like, man, how are they going to try? And how are they gonna make me come back for mcgruber because they keep like having Piper not actually die helped? Yeah, and then the sex scene being so embarrassing helped. But I kind of wish he had been dumber a little more often. Yeah, I really got to kick out of it. I think, you know, if you want some dumb fun and you don't mind a little bit of a mean, raunchy comedy.

1:35:43 Yeah it's worth watching. Yeah, it's a streaming for me too. This is a very particular comedy. You really have to love the raunchiness, you have to love the absolute stupid comedies to really get into this one. But this is just one of those movies that if you haven't seen him, been curious about. If you're curious, check it out. You might like it, or it might be something that is bad. I'm glad I checked it out and we watched the unrated version. Two. Yes, we did so. We always like get in the show. With a couple of recommendations, I have two this week, starting with two thousand and eight Tropic Thunder, currently available on Hulu and Paramount Plus. Through a series of freak occurrences, a group of actors shooting a big budget war movie are forced to become the soldiers that they are portraying. I Do love me some Traffic Thunder, And second, I'm going to go with another Val Kilmer classic Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang from two thousand and five, currently rentable on Prime Video and Fandango. After being mistaken for an actor, a New York thief is sent to Hollywood to train under a private eye for a potential movie role, but the duo are thrown together with a struggling actress into a murder mystery. One of Shane Black's most underrated movies. That we had to say, so.

1:36:42 After watching it, I had to come up with, you know, yeah, one and there was one movie that popped into my head immediately, and I think it's it's a comedy film, and I think it did an even better job of a really like hateable character. Yeah, and that is two thousand and six is the Foot Fist. I almost picked that, but I was gonna let you have that actually, directed by Jody Hill, who went on to become well known for Observe and Report, but of course more so his HBO series like Eastbound and Down, Vice Principles and The Right Ended Righteous Gens Gemstone. Yep, and it stars Danny McBride, and the description is an inept taekwondo instructor struggles with marital troubles and an unhealthy obsession with fellow taekwondo enthusiast Chuck the truck Wallace. That doesn't even begin to the thing is Danny McBride is so good at playing somebody who you could never like, and somehow getting you to like him. Yeah, and this was the first film that really established that type of comedy that he and Jody Hill would kind of become famous for, of having characters who are deeply flawed and deeply ego maniacal, but somehow you still still like them end up liking them.

1:37:51 Yeah. And The Foot Fist Way is a great one, especially if you're a fan of those series. Then it's a really great example because this was made before Danny McBride was much of anything as an actor. This was him and his buddies from film school in North Carolina who all got together and made this movie. It's currently streaming for free on Pluto TV or you can rent it on Prime Video. Really really funny, underrated movie. And I would piggyback off that because it just kind of brought me back. If you want a darker version of The Foot Fist Way, I would go with the Art of Self Defense with Michael Sira. It's a phenomenal movie. Yeah, it's not Michael Sarah. Not Michael Sarah, it's the other guy, Jesse Eisenberg. But no, Jad, the Art of Self Defense was one that you showed me or texted me that I needed to watch immediately.

1:38:31 That's a phenomenal, phenomenal movie. But darker. Yeah, well it's not. It's totally different. It's just but it's except that it has the same setting. Yeah, but it's very very dark, very weird, very clever. Yeah. I really loved it. So, do we have any emails this week? Maybe? Yeah? We do? We do have we have an email if I can open it, there we go. This is from our buddy Birdman. Oh so it says the headline ear headline subject is good for mental health. Hey, Hen and Dave. As always, I'm glad to be listening to the podcast again now that I'm enjoying my freedom after being trapped inside for three months due to a broken wheelchair. Yeah, a rough go. So I was listening to the latest show on Carrie. I really enjoyed the conversation and it donned, Uh, it dawned on. It dawned for a suggestion for a theme month.

1:39:17 Oh quote, it's good to be the King and it's only Stephen King adaptations, but preferably lesser known ones. I really like that idea. I like it a lot. I also that made me have an idea, we should do it. We should do a theme that's I can't believe it's not Stephen King and should be any movie that like really feels like it's Stephen King and it's totally all greaser movies. So like Pumpkinhead two, there are other ones. There are quite a few, anyway, could be amazing to hear you guys talk about those adaptations and learn something new. That's a really good idea, that's a really and this is the first time we had a month's suggestion like one like one of your other writers. I also use this podcast as a form of good mental health for myself. I often find myself going out to explore my local community and throwing on an episode.

1:40:04 It's almost like the pair of you are walking alongside with me and just talking in the taking in the conversation. I know I've said this before, but one of the greatest strengths this podcast has over many others is the authentic and genuine nature of both of you. It's a true gift to have. That's very sweet. I'm very sweet. Shut up, David, no, I'm talking. I don't know if I ever tell you both this enough, but I'm always grateful to have gotten to know you both as friends, but also who collab with me in many different ways. Someday I promise massive bro hugs to you both for the immeasurable ways you have both brought joy and creativity to me. Someday I hope to hear you tackle my suggestions, but I'm always glad to hear whatever is served up next and I almost always listen early on Patreon top tier sub motherfucker lol. Be well, my friends, and until next time, be excellent to each other.

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1:41:45 Yes, And would you like to know what we are talking about next week? Perhaps? Well, guess what, because we are coming on my birthday pick week because it's coming up, so we are going to be discussing nineteen ninety seven's wish Master. Oh all right. I mean it's been a while since I've revisited wish Master. I love that movie currently available on Plex, Pluto, Roku. There's a beautiful set that Vestron put out a couple of years back. That is all four of them a really really good deal for honestly several good movies. Wish Master is undeniably the best of them. I enjoyed two quite a bit. It was good. I mean, any of them would dive off. The first two would div off for fantastic when they go to the Power Ranger looking wish Master, I got.

1:42:25 A problem, Wow, hateful Dave over here. But yeah, we're gonna be talking about wish Master from nine to ninety seven. Just a lot of fun in that movie. That's gonna be discussed on that one. And speaking of fun, we're about to get out of here. We're gonna go. I'm gonna go take David to finally see Fight or Flight before it leaves the theater. I think it's gonna be quite an experience for you. So I'm excited. He'll give you all y'all full report next week. Yes I shall. So with all that being said, you know, we're not going to talk about butts NonStop. Like the Grover Man they talk about butts constantly, and they. Talk about butts a lot, a lot of butts in I would like to say Val Kilmer's film filmography, if you have not looked at it or missing some spots on it, there's a lot of good things on there to be discovered. Like I said, Kill Me Again was one I just found just looking on Prime. I cannot recommend thunder hard enough, even his appearance in True Romance as Elvis character. People forget that's him. I mean, he was always a really, really good actor. The movies may not have been up to par in a Doctor Moreau still entertaining to watch.

1:43:25 Well, he was becoming the biggest star in the world for a minute there, and he got a pretty bad reputation for a while because of it. Yeah, but I'm happy to see that people are appreciating him and missing him. He deserves it. Yeah, and if you have not seen his documentary Vow currently on Prime, I cannot recommend that documentary enough. He'll get a really humanistic look into him and also see that this Mark Twain show that he was doing really goold had taken him to the next If you would have stuck around with. Us, Yeah, I need to watch it. It's just probably sad. I would. That's extremely sad. I cried basically the last hour of it, because yeah, once they get into that section of it, it gets really sad. But yeah, Val Kilmer, we will miss you, but thank you for leaving behind an incredible body of work. Absolutely, and thank you guys so much for joining us not only tonight but hopefully for the whole month. As we've been talking about great films featuring people that are no longer with us, and unfortunately that list grows and grows because film is only movies are only getting.

1:44:15 Older, and we just lost. Unfortunately, we found out George Went today as well too. Yeah, that one, that one that sucks. I've never heard a negative word about him, and but I think eventually we should do King of the n Not only him, but how incredible Stuart Gordon's body of work is and how much of it is underappreciated. And that's the shocking thing. People remember, like a couple of the big ones, we made a lot of great movies, a lot of great movies. Yeah. So but without all that said, we're going to get out of here. So we hope you all have a good week. We will of course see you next but grub But until then, guys,