May 27, 2025
MacGruber (2010) Val Kilmer, Nuclear Mayhem & Raunchy Comedy Gold
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RSS Feed Henrique and David honor Val Kilmer by revisiting MacGruber (2010), the R-rated action comedy built from Will Forte’s Saturday Night Live sketch. Directed by Jorma Taccone and written by Taccone, Forte and John Solomon, the film sends its spectacularly unqualified hero after Dieter Von Cunth, Kilmer’s straight-faced supervillain, before a stolen nuclear warhead can destroy Washington, D.C. Kristen Wiig, Ryan Phillippe and Powers Boothe play the increasingly exasperated professionals caught in MacGruber’s mission.
The review follows MacGruber from a supposed death and self-imposed exile to the catastrophic reunion of his all-wrestler commando team. After his homemade explosives erase that first plan, Vicki St. Elmo and Lieutenant Dixon Piper become his reluctant partners. The hosts track the Las Vegas nightclub disaster, Vicki’s painfully obvious disguise, MacGruber’s refusal to use guns, the notebook filled with a heckler’s license plate and the improvised diversions that reveal he is less resourceful hero than dangerous narcissist.
That contradiction drives the comedy: MacGruber can assemble gadgets from scraps, yet he destroys every element of surprise and treats petty revenge as seriously as nuclear terrorism. Kilmer and Boothe anchor the spoof by playing its outsized action-movie world with complete conviction, while Wiig’s nervous restraint and Phillippe’s disbelief keep the absurdity legible. Henrique and David debate whether the film goes too far, whether any humiliation is beneath its hero and why its mean, aggressively raunchy style was already out of step with mainstream comedy in 2010.
Production talk traces the character from brief SNL parody to feature-length cult film, including the Albuquerque, New Mexico shoot, Taccone’s Die Hard influence, the movie’s reported use of prop C-4 connected to that production and its sharp theatrical collapse against a roughly $10 million budget. The hosts also cover the later television continuation and the friendship between Forte and Kilmer, whose abandoned plan to compete together on The Amazing Race becomes one of the episode’s best behind-the-scenes stories. Kilmer’s villainous turn prompts the question of what his version of a Bond antagonist might have looked like.
The original detours stay intact: the disputed Titanic clam-chowder PCP incident, Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger’s marijuana-cigar story, David’s discovery of Kilmer’s Kill Me Again and the possibility of Slaughter High as a birthday selection. Both hosts land on stream-it ratings. They find MacGruber funny, charming and deliberately stupid, while warning that its nudity, cruelty and extreme raunch make it a highly particular cult-comedy experience.
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Spoiler alert. You know, over the course of like eighty
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has it been challenging for you not being able to
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just look at.
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Yourself the whole time you're talking? Actually, I loved it
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way more so.
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I mean I tried to get you to stop.
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You just wouldn't. Dude. I do it on a hilarious thing,
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know why.
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I'm I mean, he literally just watched a movie about
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a deeply toxic narciss Okay, I mean I am nowhere
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I didn't say. I mean like, I didn't say you
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I mean, you know what, so I posted about it
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in the chat. I don't know if you saw it not.
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Did you see do you?
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Do?
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You know about the Titanic PCP incident with the clam
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chowder and.
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I read a little bit about it when you were
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talking about it.
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I was just blown away by the fact that, like
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I've a have been such a huge fan of Titanic
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most of my life, but be that as many interviews
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as I've watched as Paxton over the years, because anytime
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Paxston does an interview, I'll usually watch it because he's
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really interested. Dude, but was rest in peace? But hearing
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him tell Larry King that story was pretty insane, And
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I mean, if for those who aren't aware of it,
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there was a incident on a shooting day of Titanic
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where none of the main cast were there, So like
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Leo DiCaprio, Kate Winslet, they were not there. But it
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was Cameron, it was Bill Paxton, it was some of
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the other side characters and then a bunch of crew
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people and apparently at some point in the lunch PCP
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got mixed into the clam chowder.
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It happens so huge Hollywood movie, No.
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One's No, one has never come forward, No one has
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ever admitted to it.
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see if Larry King was awake.
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No, no, because he's not the only one that's been
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recorded and seen telling that story. Because basically from what
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I understand from his version of it, because Cameron also
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has a version of it too, but from his version,
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they'd gotten through lunch, both of them had a little
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bit of clam chowder, and one of the set pas
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come up to them and was just like, hey, did
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you guys eat the clam chowder? And Bill was like, well, yeah,
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I had a little bit, and Jim was like yeah,
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I had a bowl. And he's like, okay, just watch yourselves.
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There might be something going on with it. And then
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word got that people were starting to freak out. There
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was a bunch of singing going around on some of
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the set. People like locked themselves in an office and
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started like doing like a roller coaster thing. Apparently Bill
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Paxton got into his weed bag that he had on
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set with him and smoked a little bit on top
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of it. I think where did they shoot it? I
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can't remember. Actually, he said, where'd you say? This part happened,
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I don't think, I said, let me check though, hang on,
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let's see Halifax Nova Scotia. I thought that was it. Yeah. Yeah,
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So PCP got into the clam chowder on the set
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of Titanic one day and apparently just chaos erupted. And
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my first time hearing this story, I was just like,
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we just got that movie Saturday Night all about Saturday
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Night Live. I want a movie on this my question?
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Yeah, I mean I have a lot. Yeah. Was anyone
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like medically confirmed to be on PCP?
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So let's see, uh rue, Okay. We had a room
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full of for grips and electricians. One of the guys
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started talking really hyper. He's a big guy, like six
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four and says, do you guys feel Okay, let's see.
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Bill Paxton was a real sweetie. He was sitting next
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to me in the hallway of the hospital. They went
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to the hospital. It looks like, okay, here we go.
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Many crew members were sent to Dartmouth General Hospital. Cameron
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recalled the incident in two thousand and nine interview of
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Vandy Ferri, saying people are moaning, crying, Whaling collapsed on
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tables and gurneys. The DP. Caleb da Chanel is leading
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a number of crew down the hall on a highly
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vocal conga line. You can't make the stuff up, is
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what he says.
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I mean, I do think you can make can make
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I'm not saying they did, though, But that's see. If
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it were a drug that I would assume would be
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on a movie set, yeah it would. I would have
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less questions. Yeah, if it were speed or cocaine, I
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would be like, oh wow, But like, how do you
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get PCP? And you said clam chowder?
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It says all hell broke loose August ninth, nineteen ninety
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six on the film set in Halifax, Nova Scotia, when
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Craft Services provided clam chowder that happened to be spiked
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with the drug.
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Halifax happened to be.
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Halifax was where Cameron filmed the Titanic framing device scenes
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featuring Bill Paxon is the leader of an expedition that
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discovers Rose's necklace. So it was so it was with
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that side of the of the production, So it wasn't
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like on the major ship. But I just Variety covered
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the story. Yeah yeah, no, Variety, you know covered it,
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CBC covered it, Global News covered it. Business Insider covered it. Uh,
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let's see the Guardian.
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So apparently there are theories, okay that I found by
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using Google, which means, you know, hey, Gemini, you're trying
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your best theories on how it happened. Disgruntled crew member
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or caterer.
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Yeah, I can see that.
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This is the most widely discussed theory. According to James Cameron,
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the director, they had fired a crew member the day
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before the incident who had been causing trouble with the caterers.
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That's a hell of a way to get back at them.
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I love it.
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It's like, well, you know, if he was like a
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problems crew person, I guess that could be because they
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were fucking using angel dust.
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On August twenty six, nineteen eety six, the Canadian Press
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reported that nearly eighty people were taken to the hospital
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from the set of Titanic for what was initially thought
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to be food poisoning. However, the Halifax Regial Police investigated
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the incident and found that someone had laced the seafood
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chowder with PCP.
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So I'm looking at this, I want I want to
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I want to fully understand this because I don't have
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any interesting anecdotes that my ear is still somewhat painful.
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It's okay, I can't prepare to talk about this today.
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So this theory suggests that the crew member seeking revenge
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deliberately poison the claim chowder as a way to retaliate
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against the caterers and potentially disrupt production. However, the fired
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employee was not seen back on set after their dismissal,
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making it difficult understand how they could have accessed the
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catering kitchen. Another theory is prank gone wrong. PCP was
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known to be used recreationally, and some speculate that someone
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intended to create a fun atmosphere but misjudged the dosage
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and the effects of the drug. However, nobody has ever
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claimed responsible ability for the prank, and no traces of
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PCP were found on anyone present on the set.
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Hmm, that does sound like a disgruntled so The Vice
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in twenty seventeen interviewed Marilyn McAvoy, who was a standby
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painter on set, and she says the chowder was unbelievable.
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People were going back for second bulls. I really thought
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about going back because it was so good, and I
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think that was part of the problem. People ate a
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lot more than usual because it was so delicious. There
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was no indication that there was anything strange happening until
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the meal. By the time we got back from eating,
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after about thirty minutes, that's when I started noticing something
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was wrong. Everyone seemed confused. Everyone was having trouble getting
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their work done. While I was trying to figure out
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what was going on, everyone else seemed to be going outside.
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They were all gathering outside of the giant doors of
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the building we were working on. I also heard later
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on that as Camp. As soon as Cameron realized something
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had been put in the chowder, he ran up to
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his room and forced himself to throw up.
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Hmmm, So there is no evidence that PCP was on
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the set as far as I can tell, Like, nobody tested,
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did a drug test or anything. Yeah, but then my
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question becomes, who said we're on PCP.
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Well, I'm seeing a newspaper clipping that says Titanic Mystery
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who spiked the chowder? From nineteen ninety eight newspaper. Some
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disagreement exists over the exact number of people who were
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sticking on the type of chowder that was lace a PCP. So, yeah,
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it doesn't say in regards to anything of confirmation of PCP.
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I'm on Snopes right now.
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By the way, I'm just curious because, like what made
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them decide that it was PCP.
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I do not know.
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One big thing the police pointed out was PCP was
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not common in that part of Canada, but is very
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common in Hollywood. But I mean, I don'ver hear people.
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I mean, I know PCP can cause euphoria, calmnless, lethargy, hallucinations, yeah, agitation.
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It must be fun because some people take it for fun.
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But doesn't say I like, this is a very fun thing. No.
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Yeah, I'm just curious because like if somebody got it
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in their head that they had been poisoned with PCP,
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it could have been some kind of a mass hysteria.
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All I'm saying is, whoever works at Netflix Hulu and
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is listening to this podcast right now, You've got a
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great movie here that you call Abandoned Ship, the story
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of the Titanic PCP incident, or something along those lines,
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because this is a story that needs to be told
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through film.
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we have a pretty strong suspicion of who it was, although.
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It was never proved ever. Yeah, confirmed, We believe the
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That somebody who had a beef with the caterers, because
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the first thing we did was fire the caterers, and
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you know, sure enough we had some leads on that.
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a psychomaniac that the perpetrator was trying to get back
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at me. But I reject that theory out of hand
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for obvious reasons.
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Hm. They officially closed the case on February twelfth of
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ninety nine, though a ten page report that included redacted
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statements was assembled, no suspects were identified by the Halifax
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Police Department. Decades later, however, the incident resurface thanks to
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the efforts of Tricia Ralph.
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Hmmm, yeah, this is a I mean, this is a fascinating,
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bizarre concept that they were drugged with PCP of all things. Yeah,
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