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July 15, 2025

I Still Know What You Did Last Summer (1998): Island Slasher

I Still Know What You Did Last Summer (1998): Island Slasher
I Still Know What You Did Last Summer (1998): Island Slasher
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I Still Know What You Did Last Summer (1998): Island Slasher

Henrique Couto and David Denoyer revisit I Still Know What You Did Last Summer (1998), Danny Cannon’s rain-soaked slasher sequel starring Jennifer Love Hewitt, Freddie Prinze Jr., Brandy Norwood, Mekhi Phifer, Matthew Settle and Jeffrey Combs. One year after the murders of Helen and Barry—and two summers after the original hit-and-run—Julie James is in college but still living with guilt and trauma. Ray Bronson visits, hoping she will return home for the Fourth of July, but she declines.
When roommate Karla Wilson “wins” a Bahamas trip by incorrectly naming Rio de Janeiro as Brazil’s capital, Julie travels with Karla, Tyrell and Will; Ray is attacked while driving to surprise her. The group reaches the off-season Tower Bay resort just as a storm cuts off the island. With the ferry gone, communications down and staff members disappearing, Julie realizes Ben Willis has engineered another hunt. The review tracks the wrong-answer clue, karaoke threat, attic and greenhouse chase, storm-shelter bodies and Will Benson’s deliberately ridiculous reveal as Ben’s son.
Henrique’s affection begins with the setting: a nearly empty tropical resort under a perpetual thunderstorm, simple enough to absorb during childhood cable viewings but atmospheric enough to revisit. The hosts retain their praise for the creepy church-confessional opening, Jeffrey Combs’s abrasive manager Mr. Brooks, the escalating kills and the isolated-island structure. They also examine why the red herrings work, why Tyrell’s sudden death lands, and why the Will/Ben twist has aged into comedy without erasing the movie’s suspense or fun.
Production discussion covers Trey Callaway’s screenplay, the $24 million budget, filming in coastal Jalisco, Mexico, and Los Angeles, and Brandy winning a role originally conceived differently. The hosts point out that the false Rio answer exposes the radio contest as a trap, Will’s surname encodes the twist, and his path around the resort fountain visually separates him from the group. They also note Jack Black’s uncredited groundskeeper, Hewitt’s own karaoke vocals and the film’s place in the post-Scream 1990s slasher cycle.
The original show-note sidebars remain part of the episode’s personality: Henrique and David compare Roman candles with bottle rockets, recount Fourth of July near-disasters, and share David’s holiday movie choices, including Blow Out and Jaws. Their recorded discussion also touches Jurassic World: Rebirth and what a later franchise continuation could do. Both ultimately rate I Still Know What You Did Last Summer a rent-it: strong atmosphere, solid kills and an effective companion to the first film, even with a weak final reveal.
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0:00 Bless me Father five cent from the creators of I Know what you did last summer? Spent a year since my last. Confession USA Presents, I still know what you did last summer, Jennifer Loowitt, you want to kind of kill me, Brendy and Breddy. Frinz Junior, I still know what you did last summer? He Mayre's Tuesday at nine on USA. In a world where podcasts reigned Supreme Two Friends Dare to Ask? Do You even?

0:43 Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie officionado David Denyer. Spoiler alert, So days, so hem? How was your Fourth of July? It was pretty enjoyable. I got to hang out with my family. Uh, got to catch up with some friends as well. It was an enjoyable event. Swam, I swam it a lot, Yeah, swam, ate a lot of food.

1:25 You swam a lot of food. Swam a lot of food, swam and eat. Is that like a new Is that like gen Z lingo for like Jesus? Like busting was the thing that I didn't have a low tail? I'll tell you that much. Yeah you didn't, man, I may have missed my calling in life, asn't elo Tao. I could see that. I literally made a shitload of corn and put it in a cooler to keep it hot. Yeah, and then had like a brush and a cupful of eelote goop as I call it. And then I had to shakes, one with the spice mix and one with the Kotia cheese. See. I feel like you would be the the yelowte guy that would play the T two theme, like that's your ice cream truck theme.

2:11 Well, generally it's like the opposite of the ice cream truck. Though people yell ELOTEI man, when they see you, they're excited. You don't even celebrate it. You don't even scream it. Yeah. Man, maybe that's where I should have done it, says show business. It's never too late. Who says you can't do both? The Catholic Church? Do they? Oh? My yes, do we do? Do we? No? Well, good for you. Did you get anywhere from all the swimming? Like were you thrown out of a boat or. There were two different pools? Like I was kind of like the swimmer, except instead of like swimming home, I just swim in two. It's sad if that was still like the swimmer, you just you just swim across the pool, get out and go.

2:56 I want the swimmer to come to this show. But like, there's really not a lot to talk about out in that movie. There is, I mean there is a lot to talk about it, which is like and then he swims in that pool, and then he swims in that pool. I mean it's a subtle movie. Yeah, well until the end pretty much. Yeah, but no, I mean that's a great film. I love that movie. There's so much about it. I got the show to you this year? Was that this year? That was no ship. That was the like first, like I think January first because we did a marathon after New Year's because that was also the same day we watched Chocolate Starbarry Vanilla. Oh yeah, that was great. To Devil Times five and well we watched the new was it four K?

3:37 Four K? Yep? Yeah, the new restoration of Devil Times five, which looked amazing. H My fourth was not too bad other than making an immense amount of elote. Apparently you do you bring anything to contribute when you when you go to these backs of chips. Hey that works, Yeah, I mean somebody's got to fight. If I would have had enough time and also had gotten the agree it's like a day ahead. I would have done I ambrosia because I can throw that together super quick. It just needs three hours in the fridge. Though I'm white. What do you want? That's a good question. It's fair, that's a fair point. No, but no. So I made it lote and went to my buddy Mike and Jesses and watched a bunch of fireworks get set off, set off a bunch of my own, and then realized that there's still so many left.

4:24 I got to, for the first time in a long time, enjoy the fireworks on the roof of my dad's previous business with the family, Like with mom and dad. We hadn't done that in years, dude, And that was pretty awesome. Nice because you can see the town's fireworks on top of the roof pretty easily. And I mean, have I taken you up there before? I don't think I have. No. Yeah, you can see it. We've been going up there for years. I mean when I was a young kid, we were going up there for the fireworks, and the last I would say, probably last five ish seven years, we've kind of like dwindled on that. And I would go up there usually by myself or I take some friends up there, so it it was cool to catch up with them and actually get the watch of fireworks together in a while. I don't know if I can remember the last time I saw like a professional fireworks display on purpose. Yeah, I have seen like fireworks displays. Like I was driving after I got done at the cookout at about six o'clock or so, I went to the cigar lounge and actually on the way back I got to see West Carleton's fireworks goes that off because that's right next to where they set them off.

5:23 Yeah, there was a time where I can't remember if it was West Milton's I attend or if it was Covington's, but I remember we were coming back because both were the opposite direction, and while we were coming back from the ones who just saw, we caught the end of their fireworks as they were going off down the road. Nice. Yeah, now fireworks. I do enjoy a good fireworks display. Yeah, I mean, nothing will beat that time in California when they set off seven thousand fireworks all at once, and it was like as bright as the day as daylight. That was. If you haven't seen that, that viral video. I highly recommend people seek that out. The only thing I'm bummed about is I didn't get one of my traditional for the July watches in just blow Out, because Blowout has a huge scene at the end of the fireworks.

6:03 Oh yeah, right, No, that's that's a fair point. Blow Out. It's phenomenal movie. Well, it's one of my favorites of all time. Yeah no, it's one of the Palma's baths. But I didn't even think about that. Yeah, yeah, gread. Yeah. I tried to watch Uncle Sam and just did not get around to it. I got Uncle Sam and I got jaws In. I mean I got jaws In on the fiftieth anniversary because I watched that. I feel like that wasn't that hard to fit in because I binged one and two along with their making ups in the same day. Then I watched the one that mattered, the Revenge. Darn toot. You watched three and the Revenges year, didn't you. Yeah, that's what I thought, the ones that mattered. What three is just? Ah Man three? I don't know. I hear some good defensive three sometimes.

6:49 For everything that they do with a killer Whale, and then nothing paying off with said killer whale and just the dolphins like that. Is a big bummer. It's a big bumm. I can't pretend that's not a huge bummer that they don't do anything with the orca. And I still say to this day, if you want a great actual like Sea World attack scene. In a movie Shark Attack two with Thorston k there is a scene where they have a great white in captivity and dudes trying to put on a show, just like in Jaws three. So he decides to have the guy feed the shark in front of the audience. Doesn't realize his leg gets caught up in a rope and he gets pulled to the tank. Okay, yeah, pretty solid. Yeah hm uh Stark Attack two, gift that keeps on giving. It's no Shark Attack three, megaladon, But what can be?

7:29 I mean, just like it's no Turbulence three heavy metal metal? But what can be? What can be? So? But no, so nothing nothing of note? Huh No, not really, I mean, I the you already know because you got some goodies out of it. But I also went antiquing this weekend at a couple of the antique malls in the area and found some really cool laser discs for really cheap prices. So that was awesome. Yeah, self a crow lasers this that. Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't bring them with me. I apologize. I was just gonna let that go. No, you weren't. You brought it up, but I could tell about your tone. You were going to say some along the lines of value wish you Adam. Once you brought it up, just saying no, I uh god, what did I do? I mean? Saturday, I worked because there was a lot of work to do because I just dropped the one hundredth episode of Terrifying and True Nice.

8:21 So yeah, it's there's a weird feeling when the like supplemental podcast to your podcast reaches one hundred episodes, it feels it feels a little odd in a good way. But it was. It was a very strange realization. So I did a special episode on Carrie Culberson, which if you've never read about Carry Culberson, it's very very interesting, very heartbreaking, but very interesting. It was well, it was one of the first court cases in America where somebody was found guilty of murder without a body, and that was in Blanchester. So now far away and all. They do a movie on that I don't think, so, Okay, that name is sound familiar. I mean, I'm sure I've probably watched something true crime about it.

9:06 But yeah, so it was very interesting and we did like an hour and a half long, while I didn't skip any details. Very interesting, very kind of crazy how it was just so messed up, Like apparently when the girl disappeared, the boyfriend was the one who ended up getting sentenced to life in prison for it. Apparently the sheriff knew the guy's father because the father was like a business owner in town, and when they reported her missing, like legally reported her missing, he called them to let them know, like, hey, they reported her missing, and like your son's going to be a number one suspect, which is not usually how you do things. Then they took cadaver dogs to the family's big property and at a little body of water, the dogs went crazy wanting, like thinking something was there. So they're like, we're going to drain this pond. But then for whatever reason, the sheriff, at like nine o'clock at night, was like, we better stop.

10:06 It's not safe to do this at night, and then he had everybody leave nobody guarding this possible crime scene. And then they came back twelve hours later, did it and found nothing. Nothing. Yeah, that's us a little bit. They never found her or her car and the family's business junkyard interesting with a car crusher interesting again? Wow? Yeah? Yeah. The family ended up winning a massive lawsuit the town of Blanchester. Yeah, and he managed to get away just kind of unscathed and retire to the sheriff. But it was a wild mess. And our buddy Dan, you know, he grew up there and he said he remembered. There were rumors, which we mentioned in the show, but there were rumors people believed that Carrie had been eaten by a lion because there were a rumor that the family that owned that junk yard kept a lion there. Wow, not true at all, but people believe that they had like a guard lion. That seems like a terrible guard animal. I mean, I could it's in the top ten effective guard animals.

11:16 As somebody who just watched Ror. It seems like a terrible idea for. A guard animal. Was that a documentary a kind of you know about it? Shut up? No, I mean, you know, I'm not saying that a lion is trainable. I'm saying that a lion will likely attack stuff. Yeah, so I guess that helps. Yeah, I mean do you know that? Uh like on our Nate, Melanie Griffith like got scalped nearly on the set of Roar. Wow. Oh yeah, Like there's a there's a poster, a famous poster they did of a shot of her and her like her blood is just coming down and like it just says like the most dangerous movie ever made. Blah blah blah. Jesus. Oh yeah, now Roar is uh God, that's a fucking movie.

12:00 So with that all said, yes, back to the fourth of July. Huh, because we are celebrating what are we calling it? Oh, Life's of beach, Life's of beach, that's it. Yes, But before we get to the sun and sand and storms and the hoooks, what's the dumbest thing you ever did or in person witnessed involving fireworks for the July or fireworks in general? I think we could go in general because I mean, because they're synonymous. Yeah, God, that's a good one. Let me thank you for a second. Okay, I didn't, I was. I mean, there will be a test, will it be a test.

12:42 Probably the dumbest thing that I've witnessed. I was. I was not a part of it, but I witnessed. This was in college, and we had I think we were on break. Yeah, I think I think we would think we're on our two week break. So we were having a get together at our apartment, and long story short, somebody decided to light a Roman candle inside the apartment, inside, inside the apartment, holding it, holding it, and then shoot it out of the sliding door. Oh okay, that's a little less idiotic. Yeah, still was, I said a little. Yeah, still was not the best. I didn't say it made it good. Because not only did he miss the door, he shot it into the frame, and then another one hit the couch and then we had to get a bucket of water and like try and like.

13:29 Put it out quick. Sure, now this was in college. This isn't gone. Oh of course it was. Yes, So it's like they're like nobody cares, we don't. And to be perfect, honest, I don't remember who was because it was because we had had like at least like fifteen twenty people over that night, so I don't even remember if they were in our apartment, like the fireworks themselves are in the apartment, or if they had brought them with them. Jeez. Yeah, so I take it you guys did not have Roman candle fights. No growing up? No, I did not either. Yeah, but my grown ass father would have candle fights with his buddies. And I was mortified. That just made me think of another one. Actually, go ahead, please, this wasn't in college. This was this was growing up.

14:13 It was me, several neighbor kids, and uh like my parents were like out back when this happened, because I remember I got yelled at me and even though it wasn't my fault, but somebody had gotten the idea to strap the rooman candles to a bicycle and try and ride the bicycle while the Roman candles were going. Like a rocket. Yes, and I don't recall if the first one hit hit hit him in the stomach or if it was the second one that hit him in the stomach, but his shirt got fired. The person riding the bike, how did how did they were pointing away from him though, well, because. They were riding the bike, so they were in the spokes, So they were spokes. Okay, so not like a rocket. No, not like not like that. Oh that's why I was confinusured. Okay, oh so just retarded. It's just really stupid, not the smart not smart. No, Kevin never really had smart. So I would say, so funny you say that, because when I was a kid, we had these They looked like firecrackers, but they were little smoke bombs. Yeah, but they you know, they were cylindrical. They looked just like a firecracker, but all they gave like the most pathetic amount of smoke. Yeah.

15:18 But me and a friend figured out that if we taped them to the back of this styrofoam airplane we had, and we taped them way far back so that they wouldn't get very hot and lit it and through it, the plane would like go through the air, and then when it hit it would shoot it forward like a little bit faster. And we did that for hours until finally we caught the back end not even on fire, it just melted a bit, and then we were like, yeah, we probably shouldn't keep doing this. I don't know if you would count as fireworks. I mean, you technically buy them usually with them, but the poppets somebody got expelled at my school. My elementary school back in the day because they put them all along the toilets in the girl's bathroom. They expelled them from an elementary school.

16:00 Geez, that person may or may not have already had some stuff, if I correctly, like, had some issues before. So this might have just been like the kick in the pants. I can't imagine that that's your your starting point. I think it was more to the fact that they literally did all five toilets in the girl's bathroom. He was and he was a boy. I told you my cousin and I, well, it was my cousin's idea because he was a He was a little shit and I was like a burgeoning little shit. Yeah, that he and I would go. He would drag me out and we would put balloons under the car tires of people when they were at the parties at his parents' house. So when people backed up there, pop, it's pretty funny. What's the Has there ever been a firework malfunction that you've witnessed that was really bad?

16:40 Mm hmm, what's the would you do? So? The one I was gonna mention, you know, in general, is my father every now and then. I don't know how many exactly, but they spent several Fourth of July's with him because I would go to New Hampshire for two or three weeks in the summer. Yeah, and I spent at least three or four with him because I remember seeing fireworks with him and his friends and stuff. But one time we were in the parking lot of his apartment and we were throwing firecrackers and setting them off, and it was really honestly one of my favorite Fourth of July memories until the part I'm about to tell you, yeah, which made it forever memorable. Yeah, but we were like throwing fireworks setting them off. They were like, you know, little like not m eights, but you know, like they were little poppers and they nice booms. But like this old guy named Charlie who lived like way up on the top of the building which was like four stories high. Yeah, like it was like cheering us on. He was like yeah, and then was like hey, and he dropped like a bunch of firecrackers you know like in the where they go. Yeah, he like dropped one down to the ground and we lit it and set off. It was it was fine, Yeah, just bought bah blah bla up were just having a great time. Well then my dad, because my dad is always was always excited to look cool. My dad was lighting you know, some fireworks to throw, and he decided, well, I'm cool, so he took a firecracker and went to light it in the cigarette in his mouth. Oh my god, and this is just bad luck. The fuse just happened to have a little extra kick, you know how, because

18:12 they're made out of Yeah, what is it that that that stuff that burns really fast? Well, I think, oh, what is it called? Because the MythBusters they always play with it and stuff. It's it's like a very very it burns very hot. It's what sparklers are made out. They're entirely made out of it. But that's what's in a fuse to keep it burning. And for whatever reason, it just was a really hot fuse. So it spewed, you know, spark dust vapor all in his face and then he just like and then he had to throw it because then it popped and he just stood there like with his eyes all closed, like uh, and he was like not acting like it hurt. And then he's like wiping his face and he was just like trying to like my dad. In many ways, my dad would do stupid things. But my father, if he were an animal, he would be a house cat, because if he did something really dumb, he would stand there like it didn't happen, Like when a cat jumps and misses the table and just like flops on the ground and just stands there like nothing happened. That would be my dad, you know, whether it was blasting his face with a firecracker or cutting himself with a cooking knife, you know, that was my dad, Yeah, very much. But I just remember his face getting blasted full of sparks and then him just like throwing the firecracker and then being all like ah and then like you know, trying to just keep going, and eventually he washed his eyes out with water. It was very very funny, very funny memory. Yeah, And it

19:45 taught me he'll do that well. Well, And here's the thing, you know, it was an educational moment. It taught me, hey, be careful with fireworks. Yeah. Yeah, I actually watched somebody have a Dutch moment with the fuse going into a bag of them, like I think it was a box of them actually, but basically they had been lighting off fireworks didn't realize. I guess they were too close. So once sort of going off and then the entire back coffine. That's something. Yeah. Luckily we were in a field, so like it wasn't a huge deal, but yeah, still pretty bad. It'd be quite a show, yeah, once they caught yea. Yeah, So when I was a kid, we never had the cool fireworks until I was I mean with my dad, we'd have the ones that exploded, but as a kid with my mom, it was only the stuff that sold at the grocery store, which was all smokes, smoke stuff.

20:34 Maybe a couple of like sparky big sparks, huh, and that was pretty much it. But some of those smoke bombs were crazy. I mean they would like fill the neighborhood with red smoke or blue smoke or whatever. And they were a little scary because they would shoot off a little tip, you know, to like pump out the smoke. Yeah, and I remember because we wanted to have it pointing straight up, but my stepdad got nervous about it going up and like hitting an apartment or something, so we laid it on its side, which was fine, except there was just a red or it was a blue streak on the sidewalk in front of our apartment for as long as we lived there. After we did just stained it, you know, permanently blue, which I thought was worrisome because I was always a worrying kid.

21:15 I remember on Court TV once and yes it was Court TV when I saw this. There was a story about a guy that would he was selling fireworks out of his van, but he also lived in his van, and he fell asleep smoking a cigarette. That's how you do it. Yeah, his van went up along. That is a story right there. I live in this van, I sell fireworks from this van. I sleep in this van, and I'm gonna fall asleep smoking a cigarette, which is already dangerous. Yeah yeah, I think it's already super dangerous. But don't worry. Van is full of fireworks, yep. And I just lay on this thing of oily rags. Yeah, I just little this pile of discarded oily rags and just go to town. No, I really I love fireworks.

21:58 I had to for years. I had to basically just avoid them because my dog Chikana was terrifying. You remember, he was very scared of them, and he got better the last few years, where it would. He wouldn't like hide and cower or shake anymore, but he would definitely like hear a pop, and then he'd just come over to you and like lay by your foot and be like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't like this, yeah very much. So he handled it pretty well. But because of that, I stopped setting him off at home, because I didn't want to scare him extra Like it was bad enough everybody else around would be setting off fireworks. Yeah, especially during twenty twenty. We had so much fireworks going off all the time. Yeah, crazy amounts. One of the things that I picked up on this year so far that I've seen from a lot of people is that they are saying that like their cars, their pools and everything were getting covered with debris from them this year.

22:46 Well, I mean that's what happens when things are outside. I mean, that's true. But like I guess this is I think there was a lifting on a certain like ruling with like how you could shoot him fro in the city limits apparently. I'm I mean, from what I understand, basically you can't. It's just how it's just only enforced in extreme circumstances. Yeah, that's my own. It sounds like there may be attention to it this year was my point, because it seemed like I was seeing a lot of complaints this year that I've ever seen of people, like being like my car is covered in debris, there's debris in my pool, like all this stuff, like people having to go out and take care of it in their yard where their pets get out too. Sure, sure, I mean it's not I'm not going to say that. It's a delight to have people shooting off like massive you know fireworks that go up in the air and pop all big mortars. That's the way I think.

23:34 I do. Love me a good bottle rocket. Oh yeah, bottle rockets are fun, but especially because you could try and like run light like four it once, so then they all just shoot off one by one by one by one, and you just pray the bottle doesn't fall over. Roman candles are my favorite. I don't like Roman can you don't like Roman candles? I do, but I don't. Okay, if you operate them as they are meant to be operated, they are so boring. Yes, And if you do literally the first thing they tell you not to do on the package, which is hold them then they're really awesome. Especially if you're your dual wheeling. Light them both with a cigarette in your mouth, and that just stand there being America, baby, being America. But no, no, it was not a bad fourth. I came off of just an obscene amount of work and then I actually had to work quite a bit to even take Friday off.

24:29 So I don't sound as amped because I didn't really like I went to the barbecue, had a fun time with everybody, but I didn't really get to relax much really. But you did get to see the new Jurassic Park. I did, and I actually saw that in Cincinnati with a friend of mine. I'm trying. I'm trying a thing. I did that Oddity's Expo in Columbus, Ohio, and I realized I had a really fun time in Columbus and I'd never really hung out in Columbus much at all, never was big a very big fan. Yeah, and I was like, man, I mean, yeah, I only hung out in like three neighborhoods, but like it was nice, still nice. I had a fun time. So I was like, I need to give Columbus a chance, and I need to give Cincinnati a chance. Because I live. I live in Dayton, and Dayton is about forty five minutes from Since about an hour and twenty minutes or so from Columbus. Yeah, and I need to give them a chance. I also to give Indianapolis a chance. But I went there recently and I enjoyed it. But so I went to the Cincinnati.

25:23 I hung out with a friend of mine. She took me to a pizza place. We went to see a movie at the Esquire Theater. And that's where I see a Rocky at sometimes it's been a long time. Well, do you remember the district it's in. Oh, yeah, it's right by UC You don't remember the name of it, though, I'm guessing, uh, apparently not. It's the Gaslight Districtslight District. Yeah. And literally when we were walking to the theater after I'd found a parking spot, there's the gaslight bar and grill. Yeah. And I just looked at that and I was like, oh man, And she was like what. And I was like, if I worked there, I would walk up to a table and be like, hey, so glad to have you back. And when they said like, I've never been here before, Yes, you were here. A couple of days ago. No, I wasn't. Yes, you were, you were here. You sound crazy, always been the caretaker here, so I but I love that it's still the gaslight district. It's like, oh, your favorite part of town. I mean it's all right, No, it's your favorite.

26:18 I remember there was one show, one rocky show we'd gone to with friends, and I was the one that drove down and right as we got there, my window got stuck in the down position. Oh that sucks. And that's not a great place to have your window down. It's not that bad of a neighborhood, not but at least not now great. Yeah, I mean it was pretty. It was pretty gentrified when I went. But this is about yeah, there's about like ten fifteen years ago. I think about it. Yeah, you are mortal. I'm gonna die someday. No, but we had fun. Yes, I saw a dressic World or dressic yet dressing World Rebirth and I liked it. I I've heard a lot of really strong opinions that are really agro about it that I'm completely confused by because it's just an action movie with Dinah, whereas now I did, it's no Carnissour. Well, nothing can be Carnisaur other than well except Carnosaur two and carnosa Ar three, Yes, which are literally feature Carnosaur one. Yep, heavily yep in them. But no, uh, it's an action movie.

27:17 It's very sci fi. And I like that these Jurassic World movies have been going more sci fi as they go. They just keep being more and more sci fi focused because I love the killer dinosaur angle, but like, you can only take that so far so far before you need something more. Well, and I genuinely think one of the scariest ones in recent has been Jurassic World Forbidden Kingdom, And that was the one that a lot of people hated because of how dark it went. But I thought overall and how it like left the dinosaurs behind for a really long time. Yeah, but also the overall, like the overall scare of the shit. What was that thing called the Thomas and a Thomas Saurus or something like that, the Adamus Rex, Yes, okay, one with the control with the gun.

27:58 Yes, that one I liked. I that element, I liked it. I loved the whole darkness about the human cloning, owning and stuff. That that stuff actually grabbed me a lot. I totally get why they then ended on the fans service like Happy One with Doctor Grant and everybody back. Yeah, I get why they ended on that because yeah, that one was pretty damn dark and pretty harsh and sad. Yeah. I love that well. I mean that you can't really, you know, just have a dinosaur crying out as it gets engulfed by smoke and not feel some No. Uh, what was that dinosaur cartoon that made everybody sad? Was that the land that wasn't Lamb before It. Was Lamb before Time. There's We're back. Uh, there's the movie Dinosaur. I think it is Lamb before Time. Landefore Time has as a really.

28:41 Sad open No, it's Land before Time. Yeah, yeah, that's sad stuff. By the way. Just there's like twelve of those oh yeah yeah. They just kept cranking them out for made for video. When I got that. When I got that collection, uh in my voodoo from that that account I swapped and everything. Uh, I got all of them nice, So I was like, holy shit, there's that man. Okay, little Dina sore action. Actually, you know, I'm going to try and make Carnosaur a Fourth of July thing from now on good one. Yeah, we need we we need the Blu rays man. Yeah, like Shout Factory has to be working on that. I still has to. Be upset that we haven't gotten a step by their collection because Shout has had those rights for at least six or seven years now. Yeah, but I don't know if it's the film elements exist for three. I'm sure that one and two the elements are out there, and I just my heart says Carnoisaur's film elements must exist. They have to. I mean that was a big Corman movie and he kept a lot of those elements. So I feel like like a Carnosaur box is coming someday. It's got to be show well. Yeah, Shout would have to own They have to own them well.

29:44 And like the only thing that's been a bummer about them having his entire library and them releasing it so far. Is a lot of the deeper cuts they're. Releasing through Shout's website exclusives. But that makes perfect sense. No, it does, because it's higher risk. I'm just missing some of them. Yeah. Well, I mean, like I told you saw Bones at a Blu ray release. Yeah, I was shocked. Saw Bones pretty good yeah, but no, that's yeah. I get why they do it though, because less people are going to buy it, So why not only sell it where you get to keep the most of the money. Yeah, because you got to remember, like, I mean, the bytes everybody's taking when you buy something, even just on like Amazon, where there's one step between you, you know, a let's say a thirty dollars blu ray, they're probably making about if you don't buy it direct, they're probably making about thirteen or fourteen dollars on it at most, and that's before costs, and then there's cost and everything, so that knocks it down a lot. Now, Meanwhile, they could, you know, sell it only on their own website, charge even a little less, yeah, and still take home way more. So I get why, and I get why all these services like do the like we'll ship it early if you buy it direct and all this stuff, because they make way more money off and and the blu ray market is only becoming more boutique and more niche. Yeah, so you really want to be guiding people to your own website.

31:08 I mean the fact that you and I watched a four K of jade recently still blows my mind. Yeah, I would agree because like I that that. I mean, that's literally the first erotic thriller that I had ever seen, way before I should have for that matter, good Old USA. It wasn't nearly as erotic as I was expected. It was no sliver. It thinks it is it like it really thinks it is. Though, Oh yeah, no, I would agree with that that sentiment. I would. I would certainly agree with that. So but but yeah, so that's uh, that's all. No, one more thing though, Yeah, we need to talk about the end of twenty eight years later, David, Now do we again? Well? No, yes, no. We had a comment on Spotify and I remembered it, so I was like, I'm gonna bring it up. Yeah, but one of our listeners mentioned, would you feel different if it had been a sting? If it had been stinger, if it had been post like mid credits or post credits, how would you feel?

32:04 Then? You know what, that's a good question because for those who are new Dave was not a very big fan of the last literally last like two minutes of twenty eight years. Later, I would say, so if it if it was a stinger, I mean, that's a good question because that gives it, and that gives the oomph of like technically not a part of. The movie in a sense. So yeah, I think I would have been okay if it was a stinger more so than how it is. But I've had some time. To digest a little bit more, and I think once I see the movie again, which I'm probably not gonna watch it again until the new one comes out, probably like right before the new one comes out, my opinion could change on the movie. But at the same time, it's just like I was really really into that movie and it just seemed like that was the last thing that was just kind of like it just didn't fit.

32:58 But like, yeah, I mean a stinger scene would have probably made a difference. I will say that you wouldn't have felt so immediately like bothered by it. Yeah. But then also on the same front, you could say the same thing with uh with with Sinners stinger scene, I think it should have not been a stinger scene. I think that was a pretty critical point of that movie, to be honest. I would agree with that. Yeah, No, I would definitely agree. So I get I get both sides of it. In that sense, we're just like, yeah, it absolutely could have been a stinger scene and worked better. But how it is really isn't that bad. I think it would just a little shell shocking for me because it was just like it. Completely the different tone it's meant to be, and it's definitely whiplash inducing on purpose. Yeah, so, but that's I just wanted to mention that real qu popped in with that question. So with that all being said, yes, sir, we have another Life's of Beach film, indeed, and we picked one that's a little bit timely, both nearror ish the fourth of July. Yeah, and also summer movie.

33:54 Summer movie. And also there's a legacy sequel, yes there is coming out, because tonight we're talking about you Want You Want You Here Still Know What You Did Last Summer from nineteen ninety eight. Yes, of course, a sequel to I Know What You Did Last Summer? And I think, is this the first sequel we've talked about to a movie we've talked about before? Yes, yes, it is so because actually I think the only sequel movie we've talked about was Pubmaster four, Jaws The Revenge. Oh duh, that was recent, so shut up. Yeah, no, so okay, So, but we have never talked about a first and then a second. Yeah, which technically means I guess now will eventually if you know, people want us to have to talk about I'll always know what you did last summer. Guys, our email addresses? Do you even movie pod at gmail dot com. David has a deep disdain for I'll always know what you did last summer.

34:44 I just don't remember it being good and also didn't finish it, though if you guys ask for it, we will watch it. Only will it be. An entire episode is the question. I mean, I'm not gonna make it a two parter. We haven't done a two parter yet, so I think it's gonna have to be just one, David Jesus, But yes, I. Still know what you did last summer. From nineteen ninety eight, one hour in forty minutes, Rated R for intense terror, violence and gore, strong language, and some drug use. Yeah, a little bit look all uncredited, Jack Black. All incredited Jack black I MB synopsis says the murderous Fisherman with a Hook is back once again, stalking the two surviving teams Julian Ray, who had left him for dead, as well as cause even more murder in Mayhem, this time at a posh island resort. It is pas it is poash. I mean, you know Jeffrey comb over, which he.

35:35 Didn't have a comb over. What were you remembering? He was knowing buzz cut. He had a buzz cut, which buzz cut Jeffrey Combs I was not really prepared for. If it wasn't for the teeth, it wouldn't be as bad. I think the teeth kind of add to it a little bit. Chef's kiss on those those front teeth he was wearing. My synopsis says, an island vacation becomes a nightmare when bodies begin to pile up at a resort during a storm. Two years after Julian Ray faced the killer fisherman willis. That's pretty I think that's a pretty solid description. Taglines, Oh yeah, I understand there's plenty. There is plenty to go around. First up, some secrets will haunt you forever. Not bad. Someone is dying for a second chance. Okay, I still know that's in the title.

36:23 My favorite. Okay, the sequel that will Hook You Again. That's great. I love that That had to be the VHS Dot Dot Dot. The story continues. Yeah, that's okay, get hooked again. What was the first one that said get hooked? The sequel will hook you again? Well, get hooked? Is that had to have been on VHS. Uh. The man with the hook is back and this time he's really mad. I'm gonna have to start demanding that you find where these are so you can be like and that was on this crappy poster or whatever, because that is what on Earth man. Some people will never forget one's okay, it's happening again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean okay.

37:12 As of this recording, I Still Know What You Did Last Summer is available to rent or buy on Prime or fan Dango. You can also get it on DVD, Blu Ray and now four K as well. Yeah. Director on the film is Jim Gillepsi. He gets his start in nineteen ninety one as a director and writer on Strangers, goes on to do The Young Americans in ninety three. Or excuse me, the director is Danny Cannon. That's a mistake on my part. Who's Gillespie. That's the director of the original. Oh wow, David, Yeah, fuck that up? My bad. Wow, guys, I was like, that doesn't sound right. Na Na Na Na Na nag two. Director is Danny Cannon, director and writer on Strangers in ninety one, The Young Americans in ninety three, which is a Harvey Kitel thriller that is him and Vigo Mortensen.

37:59 Kytel's a cop and Mortensen is like a gangster in this like club and everything sounds way more exciting than the. Actual movie is. But it's not a. Bad like little crime thriller. Okay. But there's one movie in here that we really liked that he did. Okay, So he does Young Americans in ninety three, York Volume Video in ninety nine. Oh, that's the one. Right directs and wrights episodes of CSI in two thousand and two through two thousand and seven. One of my favorites, which is I think is called Suckers, which were you CSI fan? I watched it when it was on. Did you ever see the. Episode where they're at a they're at like a hotel, and a woman starts screaming because somebody fell into a pool and that there's a live wire that's like shocking the pool, so like the person's dead floating in the water.

38:41 They get there, they realize that the live wire shipped up to a car battery. The person in the pool is a dummy, and then all of a sudden, when they find the dummy and alarm goes off, they go into this like vault and it's completely robbed, the guards tied up and everything. Holy crap. One of my favorite things is Grissom goes when they pull the dummy, he goes, this isn't a crime scene. Hear the alarm go off, They go and see all the sights and everything goes, this is a crime scene. Smash. Okay, that's pretty cool. Solid episode. I have not seen that one. Then he does the Dark Blue series in two thousand and nine, Gotham director and writer of in two thousand and nine, episodes of Pennyworth in twenty nineteen. While this is also going on, he ends up directing the York's music video for play Dead in ninety three. Al Right, he directs Judge Dredd in ninety five. Oh, he hang on Phoenix in ninety eight, the Rayleiota dirty cop movie that we loved.

39:28 That was really good, really good. Yeah. Yeah. So then he does I Still Know What You Did Last Summer in ninety eight, episodes of CS Miami in two thousand and three Goal, The Dream Begins, in two thousand and five, Justice in six, Capital Law, The Cure, The Eleventh Hour, The Forgotten, Miami Medical, Alcatraz, Nikita, Shameless, The Tomorrow People, The Lottery, Training Day, The Series, and most recently in twenty twenty three, Gotham Nights. What was the one? I was? Was it? Phoenix? Phoenix? Okay, yeah, that is a good one. Jud Dread and Phoenix are pretty big titles. Yeah. No, on Judge Dredd. I actually think it h is decent. It does. I mean, Dread is immaculate. It's no Demolition Man. Nothing can be. I actually heard somebody talking on a podcast, not about movies, but they brought up Stallone briefly, and somebody said like, I think you know crazy thing Demolition Man has aged really well, it's really I think it's smart. And I was like, yes, you're the only the only one who's figured that out. Yeah, I guess, yeah, Okay.

40:27 My favorite thing about Demolition Man is do you know that he straight up fired extras in that movie because they were taller than him in shots. That's funny. Yeah. A writer on the film, one of them is Lowis Duncan who of course is the creator of the original book. Writer and journalist does love Songs for Joyce in fifty eight, Game of Danger in sixty two, Point of Violence, sixty six, Ransom in sixty six, Hotel for Dogs writes I Know what you did last Summer in seventy three, followed by When the Bow Breaks Summer Killing Mister Griffin, Daughters of Eve, who killed My Daughter? The True Crime about her own daughter in ninety two, Gallows Hill in ninety seven. She's also credited on movies such as Summer of Fear killing mister Griffin, I know what you did last summer. I've been waiting for you. I still know what you did last summer in ninety eight. You gets character credit for Don't Look Behind You in ninety nine, held for Ransom, I always Know what you did last summer character credit in two thousand and six, There you Go, Hotel for Dogs, and Down a Dark Hall, most recently in twenty eighteen.

41:19 Yeah, I mean. She was one of the pioneers of young adult Oh Yeah, mystery and horror. Other writer who does the screenplay for I Still Know is Trey Callaway. He gets to start writing for timone and Pumba in ninety five, the TV show. Timon and Poomba. I remember that, yep, yeah, because it was to a kuna matatas it was. I still know what you did last summer in ninety eight, Creates Mercy Point in ninety eight, the series Lost in Oz in two thousand, Witch in two thousand and five, episodes of Supernatural CSI New York, Who Done It? Revolution in twenty thirteen, The Messengers, the Rush Hour series APB in twenty seventeen, Station in twenty nineteen, and most recently, writing on nine to one to one Loan Star. Oh well, this may never get a chance to come up again. But did I ever tell you I briefly dated a girl who had a kuna matata tattooed above her butt? You did not.

42:06 That is a That is a story. I mean, that's a er. She was proud of that. I mean she would point it out. Yeah, she would be like, I have a kuna matata tattooed right here to reach the rown. You know, there's not much more to say. What what just pictured you? With no fate? Well, with no fate, like a tramp stamp of no fate, a jersey tag of no Fate. I'll tell you we'll do a GoFundMe and if we if we hit an obscenely high amount, I'll get the no Fate tramp stamp, Oh my god, and then stretch goal, I'll get the OZ tattoo on my arm. Michelle's been trying to get me to agree to that. To the OS tattoo, I mean I can see that I tattoos hurt. Yeah, yeah, ow. I have one cinematographer on the movie is Vernon Layton. He gets his start in nineteen eighty on Mick Vicker does Perroh in eighty nine, Come Home, Charlie and Face Them in nineteen ninety, Under Suspicion in ninety one, Shoots Hot in ninety three, The Young Americans in ninety three, The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill but Came down a Mountain in nineteen ninety five.

43:06 Well that's quite a title, yep. Stars, Hugh Grant, are you surprised now? Not at all? High School High in ninety six, I still know what you did last summer in ninety eight, Don't Go Break in My Heart in ninety nine, Station Gym, Second Nature in two thousand and three, Black Ball in two thousand and three, then in two thousand and four shoots Seed of Chucky. Really yeah hmm, then goes on to shoot my first wedding in two thousand and six, followed by Day of Flowers in twenty twelve. Interesting career. Yeah. I love Seed of Chucky. Just pops in there. I've only seen that movie once and I need to go back to it. I need to give it another chance. It's so hard to top Bride Bride's Fun. Bride is Bride. Bride of Chucky is exactly what Chucky needed, yeah, and exactly what Horror needed. Yeah. And I can see, like with no doubt in my mind why they were like Ronnie you money, yeah, Freddie versus Jason, because they had this property in Freddy Versus Jason that they were struggling what to do with it exactly. Yeah. And after seeing what Ronnie You did with Bride of Chucky, it's like handed to this gal and just see what happens. No, Brida Chucky just ages well, well it was it was just I remember after seeing all the child's play movies on TV all the time when I was a kid and being terrified because I had my buddy Doll. I did, yeah, and I locked it in the closet. It was scary to me. But with all of that, I remember when we rented Bride

44:39 of Chucky and put it on. I don't even remember how old was I when did that come out? Uh, brid A Chucky would have been ninety eight, I think the same year as this, if I'm not mistaken, well really I think so. You're right, nineteen ninety eight, so I would have been by the time I probably saw it on tape, I would have been like twelve or thirteen. So yeah, I like blew my mind. Yeah, I was just like whoa because it was so energetic and visually interesting and fun. As one of my favorite deaths of the entire series, which is the the bottle into the mirror above the bed. Oh yeah, yeah, that movie's so full of awesome set pieces. Yeah, and talk about Ballzy to go that direction with Child's Play, yeah, I mean, granted is Child played one and two very similar, three still pretty similar, but they take it up a notch. Yeah, you know, going to the boys military school and stuff.

45:30 But like, you know, it started to peter off and then they do Bride of Chucky and you're just like, holy shit, I always. Remember that just Child's Play three has that opening that is just so haunting when they're making the new Chucky Dolls like the way that it is, because I remember I was watching it at one night and my ex was just like, what are you watching? Like, can you watch something else? Because I was laying in bed. It's Child's Play three, Come on? What the hell? And then you immediately changed extagement into Turtles three, Turtles in Times and Time? Yeah, Oh, Turtles and Time. Hey, I used to That was my go to bed movie for years when I was really little. It was it was the first time I ever saw I can never remember his full name, but it's Stuart is not Stuart Whitman, but he's the guy that's the villain in Turtles in Time and he's also the villain in No Escape.

46:19 Oh don't remember his name. Yeah. Cast on the movie includes Jennifer Love Hewett, who plays Julie James in the film She Gets Her Started in nineteen eighty nine with Kids Incorporated. Yeah, goes on to be in Munchie in ninety two, Shaky Ground in ninety two, Little Miss Millions in ninety three, Sister Act two, Back in the Habit Party of five House Arrest, I Know what you did last summer, Boy Meets World, Can't Hardly Wait the smash Mouth video for Can't Get enough of You, Baby, I Still Know What You did last Summer in ninety eight, then goes on to do Hercules, The Adventures of Tom and Thumbelina, Heartbreakers, Hunchback of Notre Dame, two episodes of Family Guy, The Tuxedo, American Dreams, Garfield the Movie in two thousand and four, Truth About Love, Ghost Whisper, Garfield of Tail, two Kiddies, Tropic Thunder Into thousand and eight, The Client List, SVU, Hot in Cleveland, and The Client List TV series, along with nine one one twenty eighteen.

47:07 She was everything in the late nineties. Uh, just every every magazine. All the women wanted to be her, all the dudes wanted to, you know, be around her. Yeah. And I do love that Jim Minorski cast her in her first feature starring role, and that she denies the him. Well, no, she doesn't deny that, but she vehemently denies that he discovered her because he cast her in Uh. I don't think he cast her in Munchie because he did MUNCHIESE. I think yeah, maybe I might be wrong. On no, I think he did do Munchie. Yeah. It was sad because Munchie is the first one that's got listed and then it's I thought Little Miss Millions was her big Isn't that the poster he hasn't Papa Toopol That's. The one she starred in, That's right? Yeah, yeah, and he directed her in her first starring role. Yeah, you don't know. Munchie was Jim on Rski as well.

47:53 So this is the new movie's going to be here return to horror after I still know d last summer. That was the last time she was in a horror film. Really, I mean I leave that. You know, she became a big, a big deal and yeah, it was mostly at that point. She could do cameos where everybody was like, whoa, it's Jennifer love Hewitt, you know, like that was what she could do. And I think she was dating or did she marry Jamie Kennedy. I don't think they ever got married. Okay, I think I could be wrong. I'll check they were. Dating at one point if I'm not mistaken. But also when she was in those early movies, she was still going by love Hewitt. Yes, she did not have the Jennifer on her name, it was just Love Hewitt. Other in the cast. We also have Freddy Prince Junior, who plays Ray Bronson in the film He Gets to start in nineteen ninety five on Family Matters, goes on to be in House of Yes in ninety seven.

48:35 That is a damn good film. Detention The Seeds of Johnson High in ninety seven. I Know what you did last summer in ninety seven, Sparkler, I still know what you did last summer. She's all that win Commander down to you boys and girls, Head over heels Summer, Catch Fraser, the Scooby Doo movie in two thousand and two, Friends, Scooby Doo two, Boston Legal, Freddy, the short lived series Hey George Lopez Show, The Reef, Happily Never After, Brooklyn Rules, Deluge, Mass Effect, Three Bones, Star Wars, Rebels, Punky Brewster, and most recently Clerks three in twenty twenty two. He had a great career too. But you know he went into wrestling. Yeah, he was a lifelong pro wrestling fan, started writing for wrestling. By the way, So she never married Jamie Kennedy. She married her current husband in twenty thirteen, whose name was is Brian Hallise.

49:23 I think they dated briefly because there's a stand up that Kennedy has shortly after his one called Unwashed, which is like one of the first ones I saw where she's like in the intro of it with it. Well, apparently she was kind of in the nineties. In the two thousand, she was kind of famous for like not famous for it, but she was known for dating other high profile people Joey Lawrence, Carson, dally Rich Cronin I'm not sure if I know I know the name, but yeah, John Mayer, and of course Jamie Kennedy. Oh, Patrick Wilson. Patrick Wilson, Yeah, that's right. So yeah, so she had several famous relationships going in nineties and two thousands. We also have Brandy aka Brandy Norwood in the cast, who plays Carla Wilson. She gets her start on FIA in nineteen ninety three, goes on to shoot the brand or It, goes on to be in the Brandy music video for I Want.

50:11 To Be Down Baby Sitting Up. She also stars in Cinderella in nineteen ninety seven, Jungle Cubs I Still Know What You Did Last Summer in ninety eight. She does more of her own music videos as the Boys Mind almost doesn't count Stars in the Parkers in ninety nine, Osmosis Jones two thousand and one, What about us, Raising Dad Riba, Sabrina the Teenage Witch. So here's an interesting thing with these three, Raising Dad Riba and Sabrana Teenage Witch. She's credited as mysterious caller in all three of those shows. That's bizarre. Yeah, uh, because I want to mention when Brandy was in this that was a really big deal. Yes, it was, and it was the thing that all the older horror fans I knew at the time were cringing about them putting Brandy in it. They were just cringing.

50:54 We also have her in American Dreams two thousand and four, one on one, nine oh two, one oh drop Dead Diva, The Soul Man, The Game in twenty twelve, Zoe ever After in twenty sixteen The Perfect Match. Then she does star in twenty eighteen Descendant's Royal Wedding, Queen's Best Christmas Ever, Descendants, Rise of the Red, and most recently in twenty twenty four in the front. Room, Yeah, which I like The front Room a Ton. I haven't heard anything about it since since. The only thing I've heard mostly is that a lot of people didn't feel like it was a horror film. Yeah, what that's the number one thing that I've been seeing from a lot of people. What the hell would it be then? A drama, family drama. It's got a very movie, very scary. Well, it's got very very strong similarities to Saint Maude. I still think that ever since watching book, except I thought this was great. Well, yeah, Saint Maude was disappointing, to say the loak.

51:43 Yeah, but you know, it was disappointing because it had such a strong concept. So that's praise. We also got robbed of seeing it in theaters too. Yeah, that sucked not getting to see in theater. But no, I thought The front Room was really freaking good. Yeah. And actually while you were reading that, I was like, oh, I was recommending. I was like, there's something she was in that I loved recent so and it was The front Room. It was The front Room, really good movie. From the other Eggers, Yes, the Eggers who cast people of other races. Well, in his defense, I'm picking on on the big Eggers. Was it Roberts Robert. He all he does is movies that take place in time periods where everybody's pretty much white. Yeah, I mean not, You're not wrong, so I mean I'm not even really like it's just kind of funny that like, and then this one is like all about a racial like racial splits and uh it's the front Room is so freaking good.

52:32 Also in the cast we have Makai Pfeiffer, Bill Cobbs, Jeffrey Combs, Jennifer Esposito, John Hawks and even more great names in this Like there's a lot of good cameos. So and Comb's I mean, I obviously I love the guy. Yeah, I think he's great. I think his work is great. He's such a great addition to the ensemble. He is because he's so shitty to the kids when they check in. The two front teeth thing is just great. He is his buzz cut. I remember, even though I've seen this movie many times, when he pops up with the buzz cut. Yeah, I'm just like Combs with a buzz cut. Okay, Like I love he He looks like he works at IBM in nineteen fifty two. Yeah, I could see that actually, which IBM might not have existed yet but whatever. Yeah, but no, so I think he's such a great you know, addition to the cas.

53:21 Yeah, so, what was your first time watching I still needed last summer. I definitely rented that on tape, like right when it came out, because I had seen Scream right when it came out. Yeah, and that was the beginning of that whole cycle of the new slasher yep, the entirely, which I don't know, if anybody's doing this, we should start calling it new like nu like we do new Metal. It should be the new Slasher and that's just the slasher movies post screamed to like two thousand and eight or something. But so, I remember renting it and I really liked it as a kid because of the location. The setting is just excellent. They're on a deserted island during a perpetual thunderstorm. You can't get much better than that, sicking in your childhood living room watching it in the dark on a TV set, eating bagged popcorn, not at all. Like, So, I always had a real big soft spot for it because I think as a kid, I know, what you did last summer was maybe a little too intellig not intelligent, but you know, it was a little too complicated, I guess in some ways. Yeah, I mean it was a slasher movie, so at the end of the day, it wasn't but there is a lot to it. But two, you know, the sequel was much more simplified. Yea. The location was so cool. There weren't quite as many characters to have to follow closely, so I think that might have been why I liked it a lot more as a kid. Well on higher BodyCount right off the bat too, Yeah, definitely.

54:37 Yeah, my first time watching it, I think was the beginning of this episode. The trailer that we played was the USA World broadcast premiere. Oh yeah, and I'm ninety percent sure that's how I watched it. Nice because I distinctly remember the karaoke scene always, I remember the uh, I always remember spoiler. But kay Viper's death, like his death is always just so. There. Yeah, it happens really quick, yeah, so sudden. It was one of those that I know I watched on TV a lot. I probably didn't see it uncut until I got the triple pack, which had all three of them obviously. And then never finished the third, never finished the third one. Well, I have to fix this me, our team of listeners and viewers. We're gonna fix literally in my fucking voodoo.

55:20 So I have no excuse. Well, we'll make you an excuse to watch. Uh huh, I'm sure you will. But ye know, I had seen it on TV and then I think I eventually got the DVD set and watched it, and I mean it was always one that I enjoyed. Uh, but it was always the reveal is always a bit blatantly stupid in my opinion. Oh yeah, I mean yeah, no, it's not. It's not the well they did. There were a few really clever things they did. Yeah, with the surprise, because you know, they did the thing where it's like it is the guy from the first movie and somebody else. Well, and I will say, I I like this approach to I know we're getting ahead of ourselves, but I like the approach to uh, to the Sun because he even though he like is revealed and everything, it's just like he doesn't do that thing that they do in the screen movies, like as much. It gives the long speech that and also just like I'm crazy.

56:12 No, he was definitely well. I feel like that was one of the strengths of I know what you did last summer as well, was that the Fisherman was always he was always just straight up for vengeance. Yeah, no, crazy eye, Yeah, you know, bull crap. He just wants to kill everybody because you know. Because that's my That is my complaint with the screen movies is while I do appreciate the killer reveals in them, some of them are like, especially six, Like six is still the one that I'm just like, God, damn. They tend to be like once they reveal it, they have to act like they're like, you know, they've they've been taking lithium for eight years and then stopped today right there. Yeah, like like in that moment, the last of it left their system and they're just like wild eyed and nuts. So yeah, even with the the dumb reveal with this movie, I do appreciate it. Uh and fuck it, let's just get into it. So it is one year after the murders of Helen and Barry, and Julie is in college.

57:05 She's trying to get her life together, and we open with her going to church and she goes into church, she goes into the confessional and she's like, you know, you know, I have to confess and he's like, you know, what do you have? And she's like, me and my friends did this some years ago. And all of a sudden we hear him say I know. I still know. I still know, And the. Hook comes through the confessional grabs on to her and she screams and she's in college class. And she wakes up. Yeah, in college. And I think that's a really strong opener. Yes, I mean, the visual interest of that Catholic church and the confessional and the way their face is obscured, but then you see just enough of his face, yeah, to scare you. And I think that's good stuff.

57:45 I think it's honestly become a little bit of a trope too. But like to be honest, like I can't think of many movies that have done it, but I know there have been. Well, yeah, I mean you have to think, first of all, like it's establishing her guilt. Yes, So the fact that she's dreaming about means that she still feels an incredible amount of guilt over the original incident, not even everything else that happened in the first film, So it makes sense to put that. But also, like, especially in a movie like this or a lot of other kind of like horror movies. Unless it's like an Exorcist rip off, they're never going to go to a church otherwise, so it's an opportunity to use a really interesting visual. So that's the biggest thing is churches are interesting to look at.

58:29 Especially Catholic church is big, you know, full of pews and stained glass and statues. It's an interesting way to start. Oh, it's an interesting way to kind of express that level of guilt and stuff like that. So I like the idea of like subconscious being you're at church, especially since we never get any hint in either movie that she is a particularly a church going person. But that's the way dreams are. You know, you could literally never go to church in your life and not even be Catholic, and you could totally thanks to movies and TV shows. Oh yeah, you can totally have a dream that you're going to a confessional. Yeah. So she runs into her friend Will, who is kind of got the hots for her. You can kind of see that he's trying to flirt with her, but she's not really I.

59:14 Would say he's he's he's not, I don't know. He's definitely has an interest in her, yes, and he likes being around her, Yeah, but he's not pushy or. Anything pushy no, no, And he's trying to make sure that she's okay. But she's trying to basically rush home at this point. And as she gets home, she runs into Ray. He surprises her. Yeah, yeah, her her boyfriend from back home. Yep, and he's like, you know, hey, are you ready to go? Like we got the seafood boil, like all the stuff that happened in the first movie. It's the weekend of all that happening. Yeah, it's fourth of July weekend, and he basically has like all that small town crap that's still pretty fun. Yeah, and which is establishing a lot from the first movie about how you know he was going to be the towney. He really hoped to escape, but he wasn't going to because he has to take over his father's I think it was his father's business, father's business. And she was the one who's like, I can't wait to get out of here. But also I'm like really popular, which is something that I do miss in a lot of slasher movies now, is that usually it's not the popular girl or in the popular guy who are the main characters anymore.

1:00:10 I kind of like that because while you can identify, most viewers will identify more with not being the popular kid, it kind of raises that bar of interest because you're like, oh, things aren't so perfect and easy anymore, because now it's so obvious that everybody wants to make the main character the outcast, the loser, the freak, because let's be real, if you're in show business, you were probably one of them. Yeah, that's very true. I mean, even the people who turn out to be Jennifer Love hewittt tend to have been the nerds in school, you know. And then but then thank god, they take off their glasses and undo their posts. Yeah, and then that you're like, what one of my favorite gags and not another teen movie is when she's like, you know, I think we're gonna have to start with something drastic and just takes the glasses off of.

1:00:58 Done. That's that's see. I just I just talked about a trope by using another favorite trope. Oh my gosh, it's they'll take the glasses off of the ponytail out and then just boom. But didn't in that one, because didn't they do? Like and when she shakes her head and she just has a full blowout makeup on it. Oh yeah, I love that and that's so good. One of the non other T movies still holds up. I would love to rewatch that actually fun. But yeah, so basically, Ray is like, you know, you're ready to go, and she's just like I I can't, Like I'm not ready to go back there, like you know, I need some more time. And he's not taking the news super well. You know, he's a bit frustrated, but eventually, you know, he's just like, you know, well when you're ready, like, you know, let me know. Well, he takes it as a dig against him, Yeah, because she's not just turning down a weekend back home.

1:01:41 She's turning on a weekend with him, and that is rough, you know, especially since he came all this way to see her. And you get the idea that like it's a it's a good hour away. I would say, yeah, maybe a little bit more, probably a little more. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's definitely not you know, their local college. She's went away to a state school and yeah, so you could see why he'd be frustrated, but also he sees her hanging out with some dude, and he's not a bad looking guy. He clearly follows her around like a puppy dog. Oh, and she even calls him on it. She's just like, you know, he's just a friend. He's like, yeah, that's how they all start. You start up being a really nice friend to a girl. And it's like, well, So she ends up going inside her apartment and immediately is just unsettled, like the lights are off, she's hearing noises, so she grabs a blade, goes towards her closet where she hears the sound from and we meet Carla, her roommate played by Brandy.

1:02:28 Who was digging through her closet to find a little black dress. Great line where she says like, I was just gonna borrow your little black skirt, but I don't want to die for it. Yeah, well, because I love it. What are you doing in my closet? I was looking for the dress, that's so give me the knife. Yeah, I'll just take that knife from you real quick. And Brandy really is good in this. Yeah, as is the case with a lot of actors, she's only as good as her material, and it varies, I think. Once she gets to the Island. She hasn't given that much to do much. I mean, she's just mostly like saying caddie stuff to her boyfriend. Yeah, and some of it hits, some of it doesn't. I don't really think that's her fault. I mean, you know, you have to be like a very in my opinion, and maybe I'm I'm wrong, but you have to be a pretty pedigreed actor to elevate your material, no matter what it is. Yeah, you got to be like a Dennis Hopper. You got to be like a Liam Neeson. You got to be one of those people to really be able to just take whatever they hand you and turn it. Or Nick Cage. I mean Nick Cage can really just take whatever you hand him and do it.

1:03:26 Speaking of Nissan, do you know he has a new Ice Road movie on Netflix. It's already out? Yeah, I want. Yeah, I'm when I say already out, I know that they've dropped the title in the trailer. I don't know if it's actually available to watch it, but it is coming. If it's not. Already here, why are you taunt me like this? I wish I could remember the title, but I can't. But anyway, so she decides that she wants to boost Julie up. So they're going to go out for the club and they meet up with Makai Pfiffer. They meet up with Will and you know, they're having their drinks, they're having a good time, and then Julie looks up into the balcony of the club and we see the Fisherman shadow yes, which unfortunately he's not behind a DJ booth. You would have been so great DJ hook in the house just scratching and then playing All Star.

1:04:10 But then yeah, everybody, you know, it just thinks Julie's overreacting, and of course, you know, the Fisherman is not there. Of course, so eventually then they end up going back home and the next day she's in the apartment with Carla. The phone rings and she's like, you know, who is that And she's like, oh, it's probably what is Mackai Fiber's name apologies here for a second. It's something is it Tyrell? Tyrell? And she's like, she's like, oh, it's probably Tyrrell. And she's like, you know that number is unlisted and she's like, oh, he's my boyfriend of the year, like you know, you can trust him. But it turns out it's a radio station calling yes, which which they do that I guess. Yeah, apparently so so. The Ice Road Vengeance is what it's called. It is available right now on like super vod you can only buy it, so it's on Netflix not apparently not Okay, just wanted to mention that real quick excited. What's the other one called the was it just called the Ice Maybe?

1:05:00 I think it was the Ice Road. Yeah, I had fun with that. That was that was a fun one. But uh but yeah, just interrupted everything for that. But no, so Tyrell, Yeah. So Tyrell is the one that she's not calling, but no, it's the radio station. And they're like, you know, hey, we have a chance for you to win a trip to the Bahamas. All you have to do is tell us what is the capital of Brazil. Ah, Yes, And. They're freaking out. They're trying to go through books, and then I think Julie grabs a thing of coffee and says Rio Rio dejian Arrow yep, and the guys like, did you just say Rio dasan Aro? That's correct, You've won a trip to the Bahamas. And if you're listening at home, you and you know that's not right, Hey, you're ahead of the game. Well, first of all, you probably don't know. Yeah, but unlike when that movie came out, you didn't You couldn't just pull out a glass square that's mostly for anxiety and use it to find out what the actual capital of Brazil is, which will reveal later on. Yeah.

1:05:56 So she finds out that they've won the trip, and you know, she asked Ray if you wants to go, and at first rate of clines, he doesn't want to do it because, you know, he's just not feeling it. He doesn't want to go with her friends. He wants them to have some alone time. And she's really trying. She's like, she's saying, like we'll have fun, we'll get to be alone. You know, she's really trying to sell it to him. And that's when he decides that he is going to tell her no this time. So then we cut over to him on the dock with his buddy Dave, who's played by the great John Hawks from Scary Movie previous episode. Not that scary movie had the other scary other scary. Movie, and he basically convinces him because he finds out that he wants to propost her he shows him the ring because they have this great little exchange where he's just like, oh, I need some time to think about it. He's like, I need some time to think about it. Yeah. No, it's a great it's a great scene. So yeah.

1:06:38 They end up deciding that they're going to drive out to Boston to surprise Julie. And they're on the road. They're singing along to Here I Go Again on my Own by White Steak, having a great time, and then suddenly up ahead there's a car stopped and a body in the middle of the road. Uh oh, but they can't see what the body is, so he tells Dave to wait in the car. Fucking story of my life. Yep, yep, And how many times have you been killed by the way, because he'll just stay behind so many, so many. Good. So Ricky gets out of the car. He's walking up to the body and he slowly bends down, turns it over and we see that it's a mannequin and he calls back to Dave, but it's too late. The fisherman is there. He hooks Dave right up the chin, like almost down his throat and pulls him out of the car.

1:07:20 Yeah. Yeah, he hooks straight down through his mandible, yeah, down his throat, pulls him out of the car. But luckily Freddie Prinz has just enough time to put the magic necklace on the mannequin so that it comes to life to help him. There we go. So he starts sprinting. The fisherman gets into his truck, starts running him down, hits him like, sending him over the side. And that is Ray passed out for what we know at the time. Yeah, he's uh, he's been hurt quite a bit. And he was supposed to show up the morning of surprise her. That way it would be more special, yep. And that doesn't happen obviously. Well, hold on, I think that the way he shows up is extra special. I mean it is spoiler. I'm the Pollyanna of the group.

1:08:06 So the next morning, Julie, Carla, and Carla's boyfriend Tyrell, along with Will are in the car and they're getting ready to head out. And it's clear Tyrell and what was her name, Carla Carla they're playing a little matchmakery thing because you know, she's She's all like, no, he's just a friend, and they're like, well, we'll bring them along. Yes, So they end up getting on the boat they depart out for their trip, and we also have a great cameo by somebody I just want to name real quick. Red West is the actor's name. He plays Red actually in Roadhouse. Love him in this role, Like he's only in it for two scenes, but like he's great. No, he is. He is really memorable. And but yeah, they end up getting to the resort, and immediately once we get to the resort, we see that a lot of people are leaving.

1:08:49 Well, and we want to point out, so the Bahamas is where they're going, Yes, but it's not the mainland Bahamas. It's a small island resort off the coast of the Bahamas Tower Bay, right. Yeah, so what they what they actually did was they went to Florida, Yeah, and then got on this little ship to take them to this little resort that's not on the mainland of the Bahamas. Yeah, it's it's some it's adjacent to the Bahamas. Yeah, And we see people are leaving, and we also see that the ferry is going to be leaving tomorrow at six or tonight at six is the last time because we found out there's a storm coming. In that this is actually the off season, yes, and that this place will basically be empty. And it's also why mister Jeffrey Combs, when he's checking them in, is very short with them because he's not the regular guy, mister Brooks, mister Brooks, but he is the off season, like he's stuck being off season staff with the very few staff members who are staying on.

1:09:47 Which includes they've got they've got a couple like maids, they've got somebody that's sending you to the dock. They got Jack Black, who's kind of like the groundskeeper guy. Yeah, he's the pool and groundskeeper person. Yeah, who is also doing a Restafarian accent. Well, but it's clear he's faking it. I think it's supposed to be clear. I think he's I think maybe the one guy's faking it because because Estez calls him on it. Oh yeah yeah yeah, and he's got the dreadlocks. Don't want to forget the dreadlocks, of course. So so they also find out that they are staying in the honeymoon suite. It's two one and two O two, And there's something mysterious about them because even when Combs, mister Brooks is just like, oh, you're staying in two oh one and two oh two, And they're like, is something wrong with it? He's like, no, that's just the honeymoon suite. Nothing weird about that. Here's your keys.

1:10:30 Yeah, And I feel like that is kind of a funny red herring. It is because it doesn't really pay off per se. I mean it does. I mean you find out why. Yeah, yeah, but I mean it is kind of weak. Yeah, well no, but but it's nice because it keeps the intrigue up. Yeah, because the moment they get there, immediately things aren't aren't quite right. Yeah. Now all of a sudden, it's like they're the only people at this resort. Soon they're the only people on that island other than a few staff people. And I will say the one thing that I absolutely love about this movie is it's low like you are isolated on this island. When the storm moves in, it really moves in. And I mean I even said it when we were watching it. It has kind of like a Shining esque feel to it because they are literally preparing to not close the resort down, but basically batten down the hatches for the storm.

1:11:13 With the remaining that they have I was talking to a friend the other maybe a week ago, who lives somewhat near the ocean, and he was talking about how how much he likes hurricane season because we only hear about when it's really bad, what's bad, But he said that like it's it's often more the way he described it, it's more like bodies, Bodi's bodies, where it's like, no, it's just like, you know there's gonna be a big storm, you like, get some food, get some beer. You know, you just kind of like snuggle up and hopefully your power's not out very long, Yeah, and you just kind of go through it. So that does, in a way sound cozy. I mean, when we get a thunderstorm, it's fun to like pick a movie or you know, make make some dinner and whatever. But you know, times when you have to batten down the hatches is very fun.

1:12:00 But like all things like that, like snow and storms, they're great until they're not. Yeah, until they're not yeah, And that's before the Killer Fishermen comes. Yeah. Fair point too. So we also find out that Tyrrell and Carla are going to sleep in their own room, which means Julie and I keep wanting to call him Wilson. That's funny, Will Will Benson. Yes, Will and Julie are gonna have to shack up. Now, although they make that sound so extreme at first when it's a sweet So there's gonna be a couch, there's gonna be like tons of room. Yeah, but I get it though, because you know, when you're in a honeymoon suite, there's an implication. Yes, it's the implicationation.

1:12:46 So that night they end up deciding to go to the bar, and one thing leads to another and Julie starts seeing karaoke. Yeah, we find out that the bartender is there for some. Reason, something with men trouble supposedly, well. But she doesn't really volunteer it, per so she's just kind of like, none of your business, why I'm still here. Yeah. So, and she's very rough around the edges, Jennifer, she's a solid red herring as Nancy. But I would I would say she's a red herring. Oh, absolutely, much like the one groundskeepers. I would say they're they're all very much, you know, extra red herings. Even Combs is a bit of a red hair. Yeah, well absolutely so. Yeah, Julie starts singing I will survive, and she gets to the main chorus and all of a sudden, on the karaoke screen pops up the words I still Know what you did last Summer.

1:13:32 Which is the title of the movie Oh my God, I love that guy, and it's in red letters. Of course, so she starts freaking out and everybody, of course didn't see it. Even Nancy leaves behind the bar, like I always thought that was weird where she's just like, ah, this is my thing. Yeah, but I think that was just about making her more of a red herring. For all we know, she was just like because she earlier she said like, oh, they all think they can sing yea when they're doing the karaoke, So maybe her real react reason was she was like, I gotta take a piss and I don't, and these kids are annoying. Yeah, so everybody is just like, oh, Julie, you're overreacting. She ends up going back to her room, and as she gets into the room, sitting on a platter right in the front is a little note that says Julie on it, much like the first movie, Yes, and she goes to it, takes it out of the envelope, and it says surprise, and behind her is uh Will Wilson.

1:14:19 It's Will and he's got red roses and a bottle of champagna. And glasses that break as he drops them when she freaks them. Out, Yes, she turns around screams he drops them, and then he becomes very apologetic. He's like, oh, maybe this wasn't the right time to try to do that. I'm sorry. So he basically says like, I'm gonna go somewhere else for a while and let you calm down and chill out. So then we cut over to Derek, who is one of the dock hands. He's tying up a boat on the dock and he gets spooked by Jack Black's character who's smoking a joint and he's like, you know, hey, man, let's take the boat out, like there's a party on the mainland. Like what do you say you and I go. He's like no, man, Like we got a job to do. And when we first get to the island, he was just like weed, weed, weed, weed, weed weed, I got weed. I got weed. To the kids also real quick because it does pay off later when they first meet Estes, I think we we I think we went right over the Yeah. Yeah, he asks them what they did because they say, like we won, and they say, like we had to say the capital of Brazil, Rio di jon Naro.

1:15:14 And he just kind of walks away because he's very aloof again red herring. And I do love that this island is so cram packed full of red herrings. You think it was a fish cannery. Yeah, so that's fair. Hey, that's a pretty good one. All right, that down. And we should also say too that Jeffrey comes is immediately annoyed with them too. We know, I don't think we said that enough, Like he's immediately just like oh yah teens. Well, I get the vibe that almost nobody stays there during this time period. In fact, I'm surprised that you even let you rent a room. Yeah, so I think he's annoyed because it's like it should be basically a vacation where all he has to do is hope the storm isn't too bad. Yeah, and even mentions, I mean, it comes up really soon, but even mentions like there's a storm shelter if worst comes to worst, but generally we just lay low and wait for it to pass.

1:15:55 Now the matches, Yeah, and I love the one lining system Makai Fi for the resort will outlive you? Oh they're talking about how ye outlive you? And he's right, He's right. Spoilers. So yeah, So Derek finishes tying up the boat, but as he is doing that, we see a rope ties around his foot pulls him in the water, and as he goes to pull himself back off on the dock, there is the fisherman takes one swipe at him and. Derek is dead. Yep, that's the end of that guy. And we see Jack Black walking as like he hears Derek scream. He looks back, sees nothing, keeps walking on, smoking his joint, and then the really cool shot of the fisherman stepping on the dock. Yes, I do love it. No, No, there's a lot to like. It's a silly movie. There's a lot to enjoy. Yeah. So that is when later that night there is a housekeeper named Olga and she apparently is doing room service calls at like midnight.

1:16:41 Yeah, but you made a point that killer could have called that's what I'm the room because it's it's an excuse for the killer to catch her. Yeah. She notices some linens are covered in blood? Which where did they come from? I still think that it may have been because of all the body, the corpse positioning. Foo, it could be he would you would want to wrap the body in something. Yeah, that's my guess, is that. I mean, I guess he could have put the body in there because for Julie's closet here in a second spoilers again, Yeah, but I think that, I mean, that could be it. Yeah, yeah, I mean the fact is people are definitely being murdered, and people are full of blood. Yes, so I'm sure there's a reason are they That's what I've read. People are being murdered and people are full of blood. Damn. Right, here we go.

1:17:23 So Olga knocks on the door house keeping housekeeping, nobody answers. She looks down at her hands and realizes they're covered in blood. We see the door open behind her. Fisherman takes one swipe at her and Olga is dead. Boom yep. So Olga gets drugged back into the room, and that is when Julie is in her room and she is unable to find her toothbrush. We also see the others have gone to the hot tip. At this point and Brandy's missing a hair tie, a kai Fifer's missing a necklace. So there's a couple things that are missing. Her stuff is missing things. You're getting a little odd. So that is when she searches her room and ends up finding the dead body of Derek falling down from her closet and he is. Dead as fuck. Yeah, he's dead as a door fuck. So she runs out to the hot tubs screaming for everybody to come in, and we see that mister Brooks joins him on the way back in, and naturally when they get back there to her room, nothing is there.

1:18:08 And of course what would you assume, annoying drunk team kid. Because he even tells Nancy to lay off the dark and stormmarking stormies thank you. Which was like Werner's and some stuff in Tabasco sauce. Yeah, so that is when he tells them, you know, we'll deal with this in the morning. And she goes to take taken like pick up the phone up, and he's like, oh, the phone just went down a few minutes ago. Still picks it up. The phone is dead. I do love that he puts his handwrinters like the phone went out hours ago. Yeah, and she still picks it up to check yep, which I appreciate because she's a survivor. Yeah yeah, yeah, and but also just because it's like we are establishing that that this guy can't be trusted. Yeah, he's one of our plethora of red herrings.

1:18:51 So so the we go over to Jack Black, who is tending to his weed plants, and naturally the fisherman gets in kills him with a pair of clippers. Which do we see them? We see him pick him up and see Okay, you might have been looking at your phone or I'm thinking of what I watched it on TV. No, we see it go into his chest. Okay, I can remember. Yeah, pretty brutal scene. No, there were that one in the Housekeeper. We got like a close up shot of the hook and then the sheers going just right in. Yeah, so Titus is now dead. Yeah, Titus to LESCo. Why not? So that is what Also we cut to the hospital. We see that Ray did survive his injuries. He is in the bed and they did not see Yeah, they did not find a body, and they did not find the other car and his.

1:19:38 Car was crashed. Yeah, they didn't find his friend's bought. Yeah, so they think he was alone in his car and drunk or something. Yep. So the doctor's talking to the cop and as that happens, the flat line alarm starts going off. They go back to the room and Ray has escaped. Yeah he is, Uh, he's decided he's going to pull a dark man yep. So the next day, the group is going about their business. They're trying to do some exercise. They're trying to find it is because they're gonna smoke some weed in the storm and help themselves out, but they can't find anybody. Huh. Yeah, it's like almost everybody's gone. So they start deciding that Brandy wants Julie to get a tan so she takes her into the gym room where the tanning bed is tells her like, you know, take like thirty minutes, get in the tanning bed. No, she's just trying to get her to relax something, do something self care ish.

1:20:20 And while that's happening, we see that Carla goes on to start punching out a punching bag and she starts hearing a loud noise a dryer and earlier in the movie we did see that she did put her shoes into the dryer and pop them out, like that's what she does because Julie's like, you know, it's gonna break the dryer. Yeah, that's a really no, that's a good payoff. Yeah, there's a lot of little little things like that. So she hears noise in this huge dryer, this industrial dryer they have, So she goes over to it, pops it open, and there's Olga's body, which one thing I noticed this time, her fucking teeth are broken. Yeah, yeah, I know she's been brutalized. Yeah, it's brutal. It's very brutal. So naturally she starts screaming. The guys go over into Titus a shack, they find him dead. They go back into the tanning room, where they find Julie screaming because while that was happening, the fisherman came in, took a zip tie and zip tied the tanning bed and turned it all the way up to murder.

1:21:07 Yeah. I like that it has a setting that goes past yellow to red for a tanning bed because I guess, like you might want to braize a pork chop in it. Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, murder setting. Ah, that's your problem. You said it to murder instead of golden Brown. So that by this point they go to find mister Brooks. They go into his office and there's Jeffrey Combs, dead as a door fuck with a machete in his head and the words in blood written behind him. I still know, great reveal. Yeah, it really startling because you while you're expecting to find people dead, it's just such a holy shit tableau with the big machete in his skull and the big the blood written all and the room is just covered in blood. Yeah, it's it's really nasty.

1:21:48 One thing we did forget to mention is also in the night before is Estez is doing voodoo rituals with the pro with the. With the thing the proper items. Yeah. Yeah, he's doing some kind of a voodoo ritual with the toothbrush and the hair tie and all that. Because immediately once they find Brooks dead, they go to find Estes. They go into his room and they find all the voodoo. Stuff and now he's become prime suspect for all the crazy stuff. Yep. So we see Ray eventually make his way to a pawn shop run by the Great Mark Boone Jr. Great cameo, great camp and the scene is funny and weird, yeah, because he basically pawns the wedding ring yep, and the guy is like, lowballing the hell out, I'll give you. And then he's like, how about give me three and that he points out a revolver and he's like, that's where three alone. He's like, then just give me that. Yeah, it's like, well, there's a waiting period and he's like, I'm not waiting. I'm not waiting. Isn't loaded.

1:22:39 He's like no, He's like, then low loaded, he's just a cool eye. Then loaded, so he has a gun. Now we cut back over to them trying to find Estes, which eventually they do, and this is where we get a pretty big reveal of things because by this point what happens is they're they're hiding out in the main lobby of the hotel and Julie finds this huge globe and spins it around, finds Brazil and sees that the capital is actually Brazilia. And then and then immediately Stes goes Brazilia as the capital of Brazil and it's a really great scare moment. Yeah, and I love. Like I said, the setting is really so strong in this It's why I thought of it for Lifees of Beach. Yeah, because it's it's an island storm.

1:23:21 Which have you been on an island for a storm or like, did you see. When I've been in Florida, We've We've seen some pretty intense ones in Florida. When I lived in Jersey, I lived about forty miles from the ocean. Yeah, and every now and then you just get that ocean side storm where you're just like, holy crap, it's raining really hard and almost sideways. Not for long, but like holy crap. And then a few times when I was on Long Beach Island, which is just an island off the coast of Jersey, like we would get these crazy storms for an hour, yeah, you know, and then they'd be gone, gone, but you'd just be like, holy shit, the sky is completely opened up. So I think that stuff is really like a fun playground. This movie reminds me a lot of I mean, it's freaking easy to say, but Storm of the Century, like the way that everything kind of encapsulates with the island and the isolation of it.

1:24:09 Yeah, I would agree. Yeah, so Estees basically tells them that he knows the fishermen that they're talking to. He used to work here. He had a wife, He had two kids, a boy and a girl, and one day his wife went missing, but there was blood all over the hotel room. They eventually found her, well found pieces of her, and Ben just disappeared. Yeah. So he takes them out to this grave where we see Sarah Willis is buried. And this is a hell of a sequence that walking in the pouring rain, lightning is going on. Yeah, And they arrive at the grave but one of the graves is open, yes, yeah. And the stone has now been written over it in spray red spray paint to say Julie James died nineteen ninety eight July, fourth Day's dating yep. And the grave is empty and ready for her. So immediately she's just like you know again, we get the what are you waiting for? Like right here thing? And that's also when Ben decides that he's going to go or not. Ben will decides that he's going to go and find out like what's going on because Stez.

1:25:08 Has disappeared but he just vanished, Yeah, so he goes to find him. He says, I'll meet up back with you and and Tyrell, right, yeah, Tyrell was like, we'll meet him at the hotel. Don't worry about it because you know, because he was gonna go with him. It's like, you're gonna leave us alone. So Will ends up finding Estez on the beach and he's pulling a boat, so he didn't tell them, a little paddle boat, little paddle bow. He's pulling it towards the water, and. He's like, hey Stez, like, well man, you got a boat. If you found it, that's great, let's get out of here. And he's like what does he say? Oh, he says, we're not going anywhere. We're not going anywhere. He hits him with the or knocks his ass out with the or another great payoff. Yes, and uh, and we may have missed or maybe it's just about to happen. But meanwhile, her boyfriend is on a bus to Miami. Yes, so that's what he did after he bought the gun, as he hopped on a bus heading to Miami. So we know what his plan is. Yeah, he's gonna try to save the day. Yeah.

1:25:54 So and that is when he actually does eventually reach the dock where we find Red, and Red's inside watching Curse of the Demon Life of course. Did you watch? In a storm? Sitting at his desk drinking a bottle of jack. Ray comes in and he's like, you know, I need to get to a tower point. And he's like, have you seen the weather out there? I always said you looked outside? Yeah. He's like, I'm not asking, draws the gun. Which boat is yours? Yeah? I love that how he says that too. He's like, which boat is yours? Yeah, just like straight deadpan. So Will is still knocked out. At this point, the crew have made it back into the resort. They're in the kitchen this point because they start hearing a sound and also makaifi for Tyrell is trying to find something to eat. He just keep saying, I'm hungry. On top of all this bullshit, I'm hungry. So they arm themselves with knives. They go into the kitchen to find them, and that's when they also hear something in the freezer. They open the freezer, a mouse runs out, and also Nancy the bartender pops out and wax him with a rolling rolling pin.

1:26:42 Yep. So he's sitting there like icing his head down and he's like, you know, what, what the hell were you doing? And she's like, well, hey, you found my hiding spot, Like, how was I supposed to know you're not the killer? Yeah? Sorry, I didn't see the sign on it. So they're talking for a little bit and then basically like nobody is still believing Julie by this point, it's kind of weird. Well, they're trying to figure out, like they know because Estes has made it clear, like you were misled to come here. Yeah, and so now they're wondering who who is it? Who would be doing it and why would it be anybody on the island. So she's becoming kind of a red herring to those people because it's important to remember none of them were in her little town. Yeah, you know, none of them really know, And.

1:27:24 We did, and we actually did skip over a huge point where she confesses everything to them on the dock, shortly when they find the body of mister Brooks. They'd run out to the dock. Yeah, she tells them what happens, and they're all in shock. Yeah, but and rightfully so, I mean it's an insane thing that happened. So, yeah, they're talking in the kitchen and I love it. Tyrrell's like, you know, I'm hungry, I'm horny, and I haven't seen one side of this fucking killer yet. And all of a sudden, the hook just shoots through his neck. Yeah, and pulls him straight up. And I said, the cruel irony is he still never saw the killer got killed from behind. Yeah, harsh. It is harsh. So that is when the rest of the gang take off running. They're running through the resort and they end up making their way into the attic where which is a really cool chase scene. This chasing is probably the best of the movie. Running through the attic, they have to step over these certain beams because they don't want to fall through. And that's when Julie sees that Ben has been in this attic because there's her bedroom right where he was able to climb in, put the body and sneak back out. Yes, so he's been able to watch her the entire trip. One thing leads to another, He gets up in the attic, Brandy falls through it, and that is when they end up escaping out. But Brandy falls through a greenhouse and she's trapped in this greenhouse.

1:28:31 Julie and Nancy make it down to her. The door is pad locked on the other side with the chain, and they're trying to get the chain and all of a sudden Ben appears behind her. Oh yeah, so Fisherman's trailing right behind her. Julie grabs a fire axe, tries to get the chain off, eventually just hacks through the window. They pull her through and he just about gets her foot. And this is, yeah, you're right, one of the best parts of the whole film, because he is so close to killing her. Yeah, so many times, I mean nick a time out of the way of that hook easily five or six times, Like so close you think it's over. Oh yeah. So finally they decide that they're going to run to the storm cellar. They get inside the storm cellar and Nancy's like, you know, there's some light in here somewhere, and Carl is like freaking out, and Sulie's like, okay, hold my hand, and she's like, no, Carl, hold my hand.

1:29:13 She's like, I am, that's not my hand. Flips the light on and all the bodies are now hidden in the storm cellar. They've all been hidden down there. She's holding the hand of was it Greta. Yeah, I think it's our olga olga yeank you Yeah, So that is when they start freaking out. Obviously. Then Will appears at the steps and he's like, you know, come with me, like we'll get back to the hotel and figure out what's going on. And that's when he also says that he saw Ben on the beach, so they're safe now. So they get back into the hotel and that is when we see that Estes has been. Attacked with a spear. Yeah, he's been stuck through the stomach. Stuck through the stomach, and that means that we we did miss He mentions that the voodoo was to protect them because he thought something messed up was going on. Yeah, so he was starting to become less of a red herring.

1:29:55 But I love I love the whole We're not going anywhere and swinging the or because it's a good fake. It keeps him the red herring a little longer. Yeah, No, it's a great good fag O. So that is when yeah, he's stab with the spear. He falls into Nancy, like falls on top of her, and we see Ben coming up right behind him. He just puts all his weight now on that spear and kills Nancy and Estez and one shish keabob him one swoop and they are gone. So that is when Nancy is now out of the picture and he goes to attack Carla as well. Julie then tends to Will and because like he's covered in this blood, and she's like, I can't find this wound. And that's when Will says the infamous line, that's not my blood, Julie.

1:30:35 It's a solid reveal, Yes, a solid reveal, because I don't think it was painfully obvious. He's in line with the killer, although I mean it's a little but then again, it's been twenty years that I've known who the killer is. Yeah, so like it's hard for me to watch it not not think that he's the killer. Yeah, well I still know. You still know, yes, So that's when he gives the radio station voice. He's like, you know, what's your favorite radio station, Jewelie, and get the radio voice, revealing that it was all a plan for them to get her here. And that's when he also realized when he also reveals that he is Will Benson Ben's. Son, which yees, silly, it's very silly. I mean, no, it's totally silly. So it's damn silly.

1:31:17 We cut over to Ray, who has got the boat. He's driving through the storm. He's trying to get help on the island. Nobody's answering, but he's getting closer and closer to the island. By this point, Will is dragging her back to the graveyard where the open grade is, and we also see that Ben has arrived now because one of my favorite things is he's like, oh hi, Dad, and there's the first shot of actually Ben taking off. And we see there's a scar and his eye is probably lost vision. Yeah, yeah, So that is when Ben appears. He goes to attack Julie right before Ray arrives and points the gun on both of them, goes to shoot and it's a done. Click, yep, yep. But luckily it's a magic it's a magic gun. We'll get there. So Ben tries to stab Ray because that's when Will starts just beating the shit out of Ray and he's like, you know, Iky, I just I want you to die thinking about all the things we're gonna do to her and all this stuff, and that's when Ben is like hold him up. So Will holds him up. Ben comes in and at the last second, Race switches him around and Ben kills his only son with the hook.

1:32:14 Oh yeah, dead as a door nail. So Ben is distraught, he is pissed off. Now he's going right for Ray with the hook raised. And that is when Julie shoots him eight times with a five or six shooter. Yeah, probably six rounds and one of them didn't work. Yes, so there should have been potentially five bullets. Yeah, eight eight eight, eight times. We counted it. While yeah, bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang. It's a revolver. It's a revolver. It was very I can't lie. That's one of those things where I'm like, I would love to know if, like in the edit room, like if there was actually an argument made of like let it be more. It's more exciting. It's like cause it's like, well it's that's a lot of shots. Yeah, I wonder if it was, because it couldn't have just been oversight.

1:33:02 Somebody had to have been like, no letters shoot him a million times. I have to say it because it's one of my all time favorite sequels and horror films. Halloween two. Loomis shoots him seven or eight times at the beginning of Halloween two in the flashbag. Yeah, that's why it's a bad movie, and shut up. Dave loves it, so shoots him eight times. He falls into the open grave, and I love it because since it's raining so much, it's just a mud pit and it just starts kind of like going over it starts. He just swallowing him up. Yeah, it's a really awesome shot. So they end up limping back to the hotel. They find out that Carl is still okay at this point, and right as this happens, the Coastguard flies in. They're just like, hey, stay where you are. Help is on the way. So everybody swoops in and helps them and rescues them. And then sometime later we find Julie returning to a house that her and Ray have just recently bought.

1:33:43 Together, and they're wearing wedding rings. Yes, it appears there in marital bliss. Yes, Rays brushing his teeth on an electric twop bush that he loves, and she has a brand new hairdoo. Has a brand new hairdoo and she is He makes a comment about where you checking the locks again, and she's like, you know, old habits, and he's like, you know, hey, well you know, don't even think about going to bed, because they're gonna they're gonna get down to it. Oh, they're gonna make the beast with two backs. Hey, that they are. So he is brushing his teeth and she starts hearing a noise. She goes into the other room and closes a window. We as the audience, then see muddy footprints that she apparently does not notice. Yeah, I don't know why. So then she goes back into her bedroom. We see that Ray gets shut into the bathroom and she's sitting on the bed and she's just like, you know, deep breath, everything's okay. She looks into the mirror and there is Ben under her bed pulls herrounder while she's screaming, and that is nineteen ninety eight. I still know what you did last summer.

1:34:35 A hell of a choice for the ending, because it's not even you know, a little bit of a cliffhanger around now he grabs her. Now. Of course, you know, if they had done a three with them, yeah, you know, it probably would have been a nightmare, yeah, because he was pretty damn dead. Oh yeah, so but like and they even said like he had a daughter, right, that wasn't referenced in the first movie, So I'm guessing that they were probably thinking we'll leave the daughter in play, unless is the daughter mentioned in the affair with the other guy I remember? Maybe I can't remember. Yeah, but yeah, it's a hell of a way to end the movie. So what do you think? The budget was. Twenty five twenty four Wow, twenty. Four million, So twenty four million is the budget opening weekend in US and Canada, which is November fifteenth of nineteen ninety eight. It makes sixteen million dollars, ends up box office wise, grossing forty million.

1:35:23 Not terrible, not too bad, No, I mean, back in those days, that was a good number. Yeah. While the film is set in the Bahamas, it was actually shot at El Tucan Marina Resort in Coastal Coastal Agree in Jealousigo, Mexico, Jealousico, Jeah, Okay, Los Angeles, California, and Sony Picture Studios in Culver City, California, Alisico Aalisko. It's okay, you said it fine. Scheduling conflicts with Dawson's Creek, The Faculty, Halloween H two O, and gearing up to direct. Teaching. Miss Tingle prevented Kevin Williamson from writing the screenplay for both this film and Scream three after having written their assessors, so he did not get a chance to do that. Trey Calloway's script was originally published in an edited young adult format, leaving in all the descriptions of violence but emitting the harsher language.

1:36:10 Oh thank goodness. Jennifer Love Hewitt signed on because she thought that Jim Gillepsi would direct the original would also direct the sequel. She was bummed when she learned he would not be doing that. You think. She was like, so is is Jim coming back to the movie, And the preachers were like nah nah na no, no, no no. Peter Jackson was asked to direct, According to IMDb. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he had a meeting about it, but I doubt he was flat out ass now because he wouldn't have turned it down, not at that point in his career. The film's budget is sometimes incorrectly listed as sixty five million. The actual budget was twenty four million, only amounted to the former number after promotional material, the theater rentals, and other hidden costs post shooting box office was eighty four million usd Oh, okay, so it was bigger than we thought.

1:36:55 The character of Carla Wilson was originally intended to be a white girl until Brandy auditioned and won the role. Well good, I mean she killed it. She was good. She was really good. Henry Thomas auditioned for the role of Will Benson. Really yeah. Teaser trailer featured Rosemary Forsyth as a psychiatrist counseling Julie telling her there is no man with the hook before the killer burst through mirror, which I've never seen that one neither in the script. Nancy's character is description is Nancy looks just like Jennifer Esposito, who wents to go on to play her? There you go, Jack. Black's first horror movie, although he remains uncredited for unknown reasons. Yeah yeah, because like his career wasn't that huge at the time. He was mostly playing like side roles. I'm surprised he wouldn't want to be credited, but maybe maybe not. Yeah.

1:37:40 Jennifer Love Hewittt provided her own vocals for the karaoke scene where Julie sings. Hewitt is a trained singer in real life, you could tell yeah, I know. When Carla and Julie answer the DJ's question what is the capitol or Brazil, they incorrectly answer Rio de Janeiro. Rio was the only capital until nineteen sixty. The correct answer was Brazilia. This shows that the radio contest is a hoax to get them to the island. In the movie, will says his last name is Benson Ben's son. If you take both last names Willis and Benson, it says will Is Ben's son. Fuck. Okay, that's the problem is, that's just so much. Although you know he didn't go totally crazy, but he was toying with her. He was. That was why he did that. The fate of Nancy and Carla in the scene where they retrieved the first eight kit initially was reversed when Carla dying and Nancy surviving.

1:38:26 Oh okay. Tyrell's death is foreshadowed early on when they get to the island. During the scene where the impatient and quick to provoke Tyrell ends up getting into a quick and unpleasant exchange with mister Brooks about how old the building is. Brooks respond to Tyrell's sarcastic quip well, it'll outlive you, I'm sure, foreshadowing Tyrell's death later in the film and quite possibly setting up mister Brooks as a sort of red herring. Oh. I would have to agree with that deeply. When the group discovers Brooks's body with the words I Still Know written in blood behind him, the culprit puts two commas after the word no. During the hotel check in earlier in the film, Brooks makes a show of adding commas to Carla's signature, hinting that one of Julie's friends be responsible for Brooks's murder scene, since they were the only ones in the room when that comment was made. Oh okay, yeah, think about that.

1:39:07 When Julie and Karla and Tyrell first arrive at the resort, Will's true nature is foreshadowed as they walk around the fountain. Everyone goes to the right of the path to get around it, except for Will, who goes the opposite left path. As a soundtrack, that girl plays one of these things just doesn't belong here. Ah okay. Some fans have complained the film's title is a logical and should actually be something acheing to I Still Know what You did two summers ago. Since the film is set two summers after the first film, it doesn't have the same ring to it. No, I mean, I mean the grammar. They're right, yeah, but I still know what you Did is way better than no. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. In the original script, Ben had an extra line of dialogue after being shot by Julie, he said I'll always be with you Julie whilst falling into the grave. Also, the dirt around the grave caved in, burying him. This kind of implies that he would have returned for all Always Know What You Did Last Summer in two thousand.

1:40:00 You can see the dialogue in the film screenpay, published by Archway's paperback and pocketbook form. There are other tiny emissions in the screenplay as well. A sequel, I Always Know What You Did Last Summer was announced in two thousand and was originally meant to star Survivor Jennifer Love, Hewitt, Brandy Norwood, and Freddi Prince Junior again. However, the film was left alone for a while and the original script, which involved Jennifer, Brandy and Freddie, was scrapped and a whole new script was written. So what you're saying is they decided they said na, Na, Na. I can't get over that. Despite the script being rewritten, Hewett was rumored to have a cameo appearance in the new sequel, but never made it. Well, they're rectifying that now. For twenty seven years, the film would be the last time Jennifer Love Hewitt appeared in a horror film, not wishing to be typecast as a screen queen, before eventually reprising her role in its sequel, I Know What You Did Last Summer twenty twenty five, Yeah, legacy sequel I Know What You Did Last Summer's director Jim Gleevski spoke about spoke against the sequel that lacked his involvement, saying I thought it wasn't the right story. I didn't like the premise. It kind of killed it a little bit.

1:40:58 They had a chance to do something a bit differ and for me it didn't work. I mean, you know. And finally, due to the negative critical reaction to the film upon its release, Freddy Prince Junior admits that he has never seen the film because of its reputation. March twenty twenty four, Freddy Prince Junior recently watched the film for the first time for his horror podcast that was pretty scary and admitted that he found the movie entertaining good. That makes me happy. I I you know, email Usdevenmoviepod at gmail dot com if you think this is a massive stinker and we're totally out of line. I just don't think it's there's much to hate about it. It's I mean, it's not the best movie in the world by any stretch. But so what are your final thoughts on I know what you did lesson well or I still know what you'd less are.

1:41:40 Thank you sorry? Well? I would say it's her rent it because it is quintessential slasher movie horror history viewing. Yeah, I know what you did last summer as a classic. This is a sequel to a classic, so I think it deserves your attention. But I don't think it has to be in your collection. I think it is rented as well. I think if you watch them back the Pact, you're really going to have a good time because they really do play into each other really well, which I mean you don't always get those with some sequels, but this one literally just picks up right with the other ones. I would agree with that, and I think the atmosphere is great the kills are solid and overall, even though yeah, I mean the reveal of Ben's sun is a little weak, this is still a really fun movie. Oh yeah, yeah, So should we check in with our friends and see what they thought of the movie?

1:42:22 By chance? Oh? Our friends? You say, you mean old Ciskel and Ebert? I do what the hell? I bet they? I bet they loved it. I bet they were huge fans that they weren't. Yeah, that's the old reliable scene where a perfectly innocent person does a completely insane thing and is mistaken by somebody who was scared out of her wits to begin with. That's the best friend and roommate in the closet. Now, why didn't she turn on the lights when she came into the apartment where she lives. Why did she make creaky noises? Why did she hide in the closet when she knows that her best friend has been terrified of Slasher's for the last twelve months. I'll tell you why. Because a movie like I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, it's a bankrupt of ideas. You can't even come up with interesting cliches. The movie stars just some anger because of a traffic accident that happened not last summer, but actually the summer before last.

1:43:14 But actually but actually. A mad slasher dressed up as the Gordon's fisherman and a slicker and rain hat is chopping up everyone around. He's not chopping. There's some chopping. There's a reasonable amount of chopping. There's enough chopping. A roommate played by the pop singer Brandy when a trip to the Bahamas with their boyfriends played by Matthew Settle and Makai Pfeiffer. Yeah, hit us copyright struck. Yeah, that's what's up. I know that. It fascinates me how occasionally Cisco and Ever will really love uh, like a movie you're not expecting.

1:43:59 This is nearly not one of them saw the good in no going off. The mad slasher in the rain followed them there. Oh yeah, I mean yeah, I just don't know. I just think it's fun. Maybe I'm crazy. No, Like, now, how do they run the trip to the Bahamas on a radio station contest where they said rio Brazil. Well that's the wrong answer. The answer is Brazil. Yes. Spoilers Roger Pony, Geez, Roger, I'm surprised these characters, even new Brazil was a country. Wow. Last Summer is a deadening series of setups and slashings, setups and slashings, setups and slashings. And for its viewers, it's a waste of ninety precious minutes.

1:44:43 It's one hundred and one, thank you. Yeah, actually it's one hundred and one. They could never get back. Just think, Jane, that's three hours between the two of us, and if you multiply that by thousands of people who will see this movie, it adds up to months, years, even centuries forever to the human race. You know, something else could be said just about the sheer amount of pork sandwiches this man is eaten in the life they all pulled together. We could have solved some very big pump. We could have gone to a disaster site and you know, put sandbags by. Ah, we could have a raging dance. I'm glad we could have. Okay, Ciskel is clearly teasing Ebert for that. Yeah, that's that's him teasing him, because that is a ridiculous thing.

1:45:24 The hours that could have been used from this. So I think him saying like we could have went and done these things that like neither of us are ever going to do ploody and we. Could have tutor kids who learned, who want to learn how to read, maybe have a used clothing drive or something. Think of the hours of volunteer. Labor this movie has taken out of the human time pool. Shocking. I'm going to go home and just cry. I think. Now, Wow, you know, uh, they never cease. I mean, you know, these are the same guys who brought you the shame on You to everybody in Saturn Night, Deadly Night, and they did have to make some interesting TV. Yeah, so I would say they just liked it. Yeah, yeah, I'd say that they only liked it, they didn't love it.

1:46:07 Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. So we always like to end the show with a couple of recommendations. I have two this week, starting with two thousands Urban Legends Final Cut, currently available to rent on Prime and Fandango. This is a film school is the center of a fresh spate of killings based on Urban Legends, of course, a sequel to Urban Legend, the popular nineties thriller This is a really fun one. Second to that, I'm gonna go with another island resort horror film with two thousand and four's Club Dread, currently rentable on Prime and Fandango as well. When a serial killer interrupts the fun at a swanky Coconut Pets Coconut Beach resort, a hedonistic island paradise for swingers, it's up to the club staff to stop the violence or at least hide it. Yeah, that's fun. It's a fun film, and that's a that's a solid synopsis. I have to agree. For me, I decided to go with that stormy horror sense with a movie that I feel has gotten a little bit more love in the last few years, but it's still kind of not really loved, which is two thousand and seven storm Warning. Oh that that was a dimension extreme.

1:47:08 Extreme, which is same director of Inside I think Jamie Blank's part No, No, the same director as Urban Legend. I think, Well, now I have to know, and you're interrupting my flow. I'm sorry, but what on earth? Apparently they were Valentine. Yeah, same director as Valentine and apparently a composer mostly humor. I knew that actually or something I hear when it does this. Yes, I want to see all credits. Okay, they did Urban Legend, YEP. Valentine yeah, so you were pretty much right. I think there's another one, another big one, if I'm not mistaken. But the synopsis and it's available to watch on Stars or to rent on Amazon on Prime Video. A yuppie couple lost in a thick brush filled marsh seek refuge at an isolated farmhouse, only to discover they've jumped out of the frying pan into the fire.

1:48:01 That is a wild one. It's totally crazy. I mean those Dimension Extreme movies were just wild and crazy all the way through. I really enjoyed this one. Yeah, and but especially because of the storm setting, I think it really elevated it and made it a lot of fun, made it really scary. Yeah. No, it's a good one. Kind of it kind of falls into the saw hostile time if I remember correctly. To Dimension Extreme. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I mean well that one specifically. Yeah no, no, they yeah, there were Yeah. Yeah, I would have to agree with you a lot of that one. So do we have any emails this week? We do, and I want to remind you guys, you can email us at do you even movie pod at gmail dot com. We love to hear from you here what you think about the movies. We watched, what movies you think we should watch? Et cetera. You can also go to dooevenmovie dot com. Contact us through there, and we of course welcome YouTube comments, Spotify comments, whatever.

1:48:53 Yeah. So this one is from Jake, who's written in before the subject line, what the hell did I just watch? Okay, Hey, David Enrique as always great episode on Malibu High. Yes, I haven't heard of it before you guys brought it up and decided to watch it before the episode. Yes, that's the way to do it. And my god, was it crazy. Some of the things that happened in it I was not expecting, and it certainly had the feel of a raunchy comedy right up until the murders started. That yet that was very true. Like y'all, I laughed when the People's Court theme kicked in and was generally surprised to hear it. Overall, it was an enjoyable WTF ride, and I'm very curious to show it off to a few of my friends to see what they think. Once again, thank you, guys for introducing me to another hidden gem.

1:49:42 In quotes via your podcast, take Care Jake. Awesome, Jake, Happy, Happy that you enjoyed that because Yeah, our first reaction pretty much the same. Yeah. When Dave put that on the list of potentials for LIFs of Beach, I was like, yeah that, Yeah, let's do that. Okay, No, it's yeah, Malibu High is quite a treat. It really is. Though. Malibu High is probably one of my favorite discoveries in like the last few years. Yeah, and that one, I mean it really came out of nowhere for us. So it really really really fun film. So would you like to know what we are talking about next week on the show as we continue life of each Why the hell not? So we are going with a big time favorite of you and I one that I don't know if people know it or not.

1:50:22 It's one of those movies that, like, I think people do, but like I never hear anybody talk about it, and that is nineteen ninety two's Captain Ron. Oh. I mean I feel like people know about it, but that's because I watched it on TV yeah when I was a kid. So, but Captain Ron is a ton of fun. It's a lot of fun. Currently available to rent on Prime and Fandango. You can still get a DVD of it. No Blu ray has come out yet, that's shocked, so you can only get the HD's. Whatever's gonna announce? God, I wish that'd be a weird one. That's why I said it is like, wouldn't it be funny if they're like, we're doing Captain Ron. But yeah, Captain Ron with the amazing Kurt Russell. This is such a good time. This movie's freaking wild. Yeah, it's out there. It's perfect nineties comedy wildness. And I'll have a lot of fun talking about it as we pretend that we're on the beach for our hot hot summer.

1:51:11 Hot hot summer. Indeed, indeed, So do you have anything else to add where we get out of here? Well, I mean I still know, David, you still know. I still know that you forgot to bring my laser discs from the flea market or whatever, and you're. In your vhs of Terminator and Terminator two. Oh there was a Terminator one. It's it's both Oh shit, yeah from Live Dope. Yeah. I just love that. Once I saw the Live Entertainment logo, I was like, I'll take them. Yeah I figured you would so. But that's that's all I have other than saying na, Na. Well, we would like to add that when we have the show next week, when you hear the show, we are going to talk about the new I know what you did last summer, because this as you're hearing this episode, if you're not hearing the early release, it is coming out the end of this week.

1:51:52 Right, and and what I mean, how excited are you about it? I'm pretty excited. It was one of those movies that I didn't know how I felt at first, because I liked the Amazon series. I didn't think it was bad. I thought it was fun. But it's just like legacy sequels can be real hit or miss. The one that I always just keep going back to is how Texas Chainsaw on Netflix tried to do a twenty eighteen Halloween. And yeah, I feel like they were trying to make fun of it a little and they just fell flat on that. It just felt really bad. But yeah, I think the trailer. If you haven't seen the trailer so far, check out the trailer on this one. It looks really fun and I'm very curious to see who the killer is. Yeah, I I am excited to see it, like I want to see it right away. Yeah, but the trailer previews and stuff haven't really done anything for me. I'm just kind of like, cool, Yeah, we're going to see a new one, So I'm hoping that it'll be really a blast and I'll have a really good time with it and they'll do something kind of new with it. Yeah, because this is awfully late in the legacy sequel, you know, since it hit in twenty eighteen. Yeah, we're pretty late in the in the system. Well and correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, and I absolutely could be wrong.

1:52:55 Is this I mean because Halloween twenty eighteen, of course, obviously it took place in Haddonfield, as did the others. Is this like the other one that is actually returning back to the town that it's from. I feel like maybe, I mean, there's this The whole Legacy sequel thing is kind of just blown up in many different ways. I mean, you had the Exorcist one that kind of went back, so I don't know, Yeah, I don't know if they all do that, but you know, they're bringing back two of the leads. Yep, they're bringing back the location, They're bringing back the killer, so I mean scream you know, to extent. So yeah, I'm curious, Like it could be really awesome, or it could be fine, or it could be just stupid fun. And I'm open to all of those opportunities. So we'll be talking about that as well. We will next week on the show.

1:53:38 And Superman. Oh and well, I mean, I'm down, I want to I'm curious. I I don't know how I didn't find out until like two weeks ago that James Gunn directed it. I mean literally, you're talking to the guy that just watched Christian Reef Superman for the first time this year. That's I mean bizarre. Yeah, I know, it's weird. It's very very and it's so weird because like I was always a Batman kid, of course you're Superman. Never really was one that like I loved when Batman and SUPERMANO with Team. Up, but you were like you were like, ah, like one's an orphan, but the other's a rich orphan. I want to be the rich orphan. But yeah, I'm very curious to see both. Of those films. Yeah, absolutely, So we'll be talking about that next week. So I guess all that's left to say is we will see you next Nanaa no no, no, David hush, all right,