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July 30, 2024

I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997): ’90s Teen Slasher

I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997): ’90s Teen Slasher
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Henrique and David close their summer-favorites series with I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997), the seaside slasher that followed four friends bound by a deadly secret. Jennifer Love Hewitt, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Ryan Phillippe and Freddie Prinze Jr. play Julie, Helen, Barry and Ray, whose Fourth of July celebration ends with a hit-and-run and a pact to hide the body. One year later, a message—and a killer carrying a fisherman’s hook—draws them back together.
Director Jim Gillespie turns Southport, North Carolina, into a maze of docks, fishing boats, parades and dark coastal roads. The hosts praise the deliberate suspense, the unmistakably 1990s soundtrack and the way the secret changes each character differently. Julie withdraws under the weight of guilt, Helen clings to her pageant identity, Barry becomes volatile and Ray remains difficult to read, giving the familiar teen ensemble emotional consequences before the stalking escalates.
The review follows the ominous letters, Max’s disappearance, Barry’s attack, Helen’s beauty-pageant nightmare and Sarah Michelle Gellar’s extended chase through the department store and alleys. Henrique and David single out Helen’s sequence as the film’s most frightening stretch and admire how the killer repeatedly removes evidence before anyone else can see it. The reveal of Ben Willis connects the accident to an earlier murder and transforms the apparent victim into the hook-wielding threat aboard Ray’s boat.
Production discussion connects Kevin Williamson’s screenplay to Lois Duncan’s 1973 novel and the slasher revival sparked by Scream. Williamson had drafted this adaptation before Scream became a hit, while Gillespie’s more earnest thriller emphasizes guilt and menace instead of meta-horror comedy. The hosts also examine the film’s urban-legend roots, the star-making cast, its late-1990s teen-horror influence and how the fishing-community setting gives the killer an identity beyond a generic mask.
Both hosts find that I Know What You Did Last Summer still works as a tense, highly rewatchable horror thriller. Henrique recalls discovering it through his older sister and home video; David remembers its television premiere, repeat broadcasts and a childhood nightmare inspired by Helen’s chase. They recommend it strongly for slasher fans, discuss the rain-soaked island setting of I Still Know What You Did Last Summer and defend the simple pleasure of letting an expertly constructed genre movie do its job.
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The creator of Scream has done it again and the

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critics are hooked. I Know what You Did Last Summer

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is an age of your seat Swiller. It's scarier than

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Scream and will make you jump out of your seat.

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Hang on for a wild terror ride.

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I Know what you did last Summer?

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Don't see it alone.

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In a world where podcasts reigned supreme, Two friends dare

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to ask.

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Do You Even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de Noyer.

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Spoiler alert, Hello, my friends, and welcome back to another

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episode of Do You Even? Movie? My name is Enrique Kuto,

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and this is well.

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Just Dave, just Dave Fisherman, Dave Hush hush, then something.

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Yeah, No one'll ever know those other words as has

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become maybe a little bit overdone. We do have a affinity

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for the nineties, Yes, we hear it. Do You Even? Movie?

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And today is no different as we look at the

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beginning of the entire Scream machine, because of course Scream

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starts it. But what really makes a film change the

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whole industry is not the films in the series. That's

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how it affects the films outside of itself.

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Exactly.

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So we've got not only a Dawson's Creek teen slasher

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that's self aware, yes, but the same writer, Kevin Williams

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n Williams, the same writer as Scream. Of course, nobody

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likes to talk about the fact that Kevin Williamson's original

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script was like not very much at all, like what

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Wes Craven ended up filming for Scream.

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This is also true, but it was still touches.

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Oh yeah, well, I mean it's not like he's known

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for being a bad writer. He wrote a lot of

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good stuff and the interesting choices that were made. And

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I know what you did last summer. Yeah, and more

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importantly it's sequel. I'll always know what you did last summer.

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God damn it. You are so hung up on I

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always know Jude last summer. And I just want to

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say here on the podcast that I am willing to

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watch it again, but I remember it not and I

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stress not being any semblance of a good film.

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You don't remember anything that's not true. Oh yeah, what

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did you have for lunch?

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I didn't eat lunch exactly, you know, I didn't eat lunch.

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Damn it nailed it. Got them kids, got me indeed no.

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But but Dave, I would have never talked about I'll

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always know what you did last summer. Ever, if you

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had just when I said the name, sorry, then I

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would be like and you were like.

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But this is a great example of our friendship to

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the viewers and listeners who oh no, no, no, no, no

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about it too late it's been said, but no. It

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is one of those situations where my reaction dictates how

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you react to us in a property, whether it's a movie,

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whether it's a TV show, of watching it right then

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and there if you can find it, or you're gonna

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just drop it on me later and be like, well

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that's what we're doing to night.

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Yeah.

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The amount of times I've showed up for Cigar Knights

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and you've been like, well, you know that movie you

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didn't want to watch.

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Guess what happens a lot it does because you don't

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like as many good movies.

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But I will also give you credit that you have

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turned me around on some things.

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Do you know one off the top of your head.

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Virus Haunted Hills.

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Yeah, you hear that.

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I think I was just in a really bad spot

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when I watched it for the first time.

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Well, the weird thing about that was it wasn't one

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of those elvirus Hanta Hills and you got all upset

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and yead and I went, well, I like it.

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I was like, hey, I haven't seen alvarrus Haunted Hills.

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And you're like, oh, dude, not good, blah blah blah.

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I think, uh. I think we've established on the show

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already too that sometimes I have a very bitchy opinion

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of films that I did not take into account where

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my mind was at when I watched them or how

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I was feeling when I watched them, So I don't

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revisit them for a long time, and then you are

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the one that convinces me to go back.

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You could reel that back to just bitchy. Yes, Yes,

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sometimes I just have a bitchy opinion.

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No, al virus Haunted Hills is one. And there's a

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big one that I'm trying to think of.

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What happened was you were it was a Friday night,

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you weren't there? Yeah, And I had gotten the Blue

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Red Blue h Yeah, yeah, because I was excited. I

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think it was on sale.

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We put it on and I'm like and I literally

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was like, I've heard it's not that good, not that good,

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but it was after I read her biography.

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I was like, I heard it's not that good, but

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she seems to be really proud of it. So let's

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watch it. And it's NonStop kitchy. It's fun, it's so

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funny all the way through. It's silly, it's goofy, it's

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it's ridiculous. And as soon as it was over, I

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was like, what the fuck were you talking about?

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You forget I wasn't there for that, like you said,

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And then Joe Bob showed it, and so I had

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to watch it. Oh yeah, And then that's when you

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were like, hey, what do you think now?

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I remember because I was like, guys, I know, on

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a movie night, we'd usually have pizza, but tonight we're

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serving crow for Dave to eat. Oh duck.

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But yeah, no, I mean that that is a history

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of our friendship, is that I had there. But I've

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also done it to you a couple of times that

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I can't think of a single time because it's never happened.

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It has happened. There's been a couple of times it's happened.

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Well, for the record, I mean I am just the relentless,

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frustrating Pollyanna of the friendship of all my friendships. Really,

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so to find a movie I truly dislike is not

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that easy.

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No, it's not.

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Although you still have not shown me one of your

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favorite films I hate, and I'm not going to say

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the name of it because I don't want to inspire you. Nope, nope, nope, nope.

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And well, we watched The Crow together in theaters this year,

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but you didn't hate the crowd.

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I never had that. No. In fact, seeing the Crow

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in the theater made me realize that I had like

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a deep connection to the Crow.

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God what I feel like? I know what it is,

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and now I can't think give me just a.

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Subtle one, not a chance in hell.

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All right, this is now. The goal of the episode

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is to figure out what this is.

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I mean, you're on your own because I will not tell.

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You when you say favorite, when I talk about a lot.

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I'm not helping you at all. Content be damned, I

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will not give you a fucking hint. God damn it,

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I will not tell you a decade. I will not

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tell you as have I brought it over here before.

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I won't give you a fucking hint. You get nothing.

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Good day, sir.

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I am not Holly Wonka. I know you love Willy

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Wonka like I do.

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I do. No, no you, I I seriously won't give

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you any because the idea of revisiting it.

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No thanks, Hey, Birdman, Rob and Bama you calling out.

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Let me, let me, let me just let me just

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slip this message in badger this motherfucker like you've badgered

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me about the Yellow Belt, about this movie, so we

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can talk about it on the show.

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Good Luck, good luck. I am so I curious now, shit,

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I am a tumultuous creature. I will not give.

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In yn it's something that you despise.

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I do so, and that's the only hint you'll ever get.

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So okay, we're literally kicked this around any.

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Hint, and I think you would figure it out, probably so,

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but no, no. Uh. That's the thing about watching movies.

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Sometimes you realize that you weren't really watching them the

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first go around. Yeah, or in David's case, watching with yours. Yes,

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this is true. That's that's my favorite. I think I

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hope you hate that as much as I love that,

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because I think that's my favorite thing to say to you.

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It's gotten. It's gotten to be one of my favorite

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phrases that I also use now. But also it really

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one hundred percent is accurate because there there are because

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I'm okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna soapbox here first time.

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Oh god, Dave's doing it for once.

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I really want people to cameras there. I know, but

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I I really, I really want people to listen when

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I say this. If you're a jaded moviegoer, it's okay

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to not know that until you think about it. And

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the best example I can give is that going to

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a movie theater allows me to not have my phone

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out at all has me. It allows me to not

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be in contact with anybody that's going to distrap me

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from the film to a point where I've gotten putting

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my phone away when I watch a movie, like, I

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will either put it in the other room, I'll put

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on the charger.

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Did I tell you I read a study that showed

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that having your cell phone out of the room with you, Yeah,

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is like twenty five percent lower anxiety rate. No shit,

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Like people are literally addicted to their phone. Yeah. I

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don't even think that's questionable.

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No, I mean it's not.

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And they but they said that it's like a twenty

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five to forty percent decrease in anxiety if it's not

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in the room with you, and I can absolutely believe,

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and that's if it never rings.

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I can absolutely believe.

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So anyway, but I was not trying to do You're

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going with you but no.

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So my advice to you is, if you have a

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favorite movie, and I mean it could be it could

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be anything in regards of the word favorite. It could

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be one that you've seen a lot of times. It

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could be one that you go to for a comfort film.

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But if you have a favorite movie, do an experiment

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of putting that movie on, putting your phone either outside

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of the room, turning it off or whatever, and literally

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just looking at the screen for the entire time as

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much as you can. Because, uh, you and I agree

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with this, because this happens several years ago when we

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both took our mothers to see Steel Magnoias. Oh God, yeah,

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and we caught so much that we he hadn't seen before,

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even though we've seen that movie countless times.

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Well, and there's something else to be said for it

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being on the big screen in front of you. Even this,

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I mean, not that my screen's not very big. But

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even my screen, which is one hundred and twenty inches,

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the average home television is around fifty to sixty five

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to seventy. Yeah, so seeing the screen that big, Like,

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I hate watching movies on my big screen by myself

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unless I'm really dedicated. Yeah, because I feel like I'm

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wasting the experience If I just put whatever on and

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then I end up flipping through my phone during it,

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I always feel dirty. So but but I am also

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the kind of person who will be like, all right,

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Saturday night, I'm all alone, no friends are around, so

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I'm gonna make me a box of popcorn and I'm

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gonna put on Let's see which one of the Maria

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Ford Roger Corman movies with the same screenplay do I

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want to? I want there Saturday Night's Special, do I. Well,

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that's the best one of them all, So I do,

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sorry Saturday's Special, And I will sit in watch a

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VHS rip of Saturday Special on my giant screen and

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be like mona good but no. Like.

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The reason I bring this up especially is like I've

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seen a lot of people shit talking twisters. We saw

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twisters recently, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I've seen people shit

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talking it that it doesn't have the same appeal as

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the first one. I mean, that's a whole nother review

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we could get into, maybe even later on the show.

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I don't know. But Twister is a movie that played

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cable incessam. We talked about that on the podcast. I've

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seen that movie countless times, and it's amazing that I

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you and I saw it together, and I thought that

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it captured the feeling of the original to a good point,

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but still had enough to make its own original space

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in the in the timeline I guess of the films

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because it's not it's not a direct sequel. There's nods

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to the original in it, but nothing character wise or whatnot.

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Well, it clearly takes place in the same universe as Dorothy.

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Dorothy exists, yeah and then and then there's brief mentions

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here and there, But anyway, it's it is a movie

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that that a lot of people hold near and dear,

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and I think if people go into Twisters just wanting

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to have fun with that original concept of what they

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loved about the original, I think for the most part,

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they'll like it. And that's also because they're having their

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direct attention on the screen the entire time, they're not

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distracted by anything. I think when you have the option

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to have a distraction, whether it's your phone, whether it's

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a laptop or anything like that.

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Whether it's a significant other, divorcemicant other, yes, divorce them.

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I think it makes it easy to detract your enjoyment

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of a film to where you're not actually watching the film.

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You're just kind of having it on as ambience. And

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I feel like a lot of my friends actually do

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that well.

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In cable television was kind of the birth of just

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having stuff on his ambience as well. Well, it's funny

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you say that, Dave. Okay, because I just so happened

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to have the director of Twisters. No, no, I uh,

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it's funny you say that, Dave, because yesterday I worked

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a fourteen and a half hour day. Yeah. I won't

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bore with the details, but I was doing a tedious

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job that absolutely had to be done, and because of

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the situation, it's a noisy job. I was running computers,

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and I was running computer fans, and I was running

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printers all at once in one room. So I had

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my AirPods in because not even for music and stuff,

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just because they make the noiseless. Yeah, they make my

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head stop hurting. And as I was sitting there doing this,

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I realized I have a two monitor set up on

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my computer. I was like, I'm gonna put a movie

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on the second computer because it'll feed through my headphones,

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I do every soft and I have to go and

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do something and go and do something. And I realized

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by the third film i'd watch doing that that I

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was basically a security guard. Okay, I'm glad you get

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where I'm going. Going out with that, I was like, oh,

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I'm just like watching the TV until something makes a

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noise and then I look away and I go deal

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with it, and then I come back and sit back down.

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And that made me realize something because I was watching

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mostly thrillers and action movies, and boy did they keep

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me amused while I was working. But that's something I

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don't do very often because most of the time jobs

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are too focused.

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Yeah, that you're active, depending up, you're active actively editing

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or recording, it's like you can't I.

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Mean, well, yeah, if you're if you're doing a podcast,

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you can't listen to or watch anything at the same time,

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if you're editing it, you have to listen actively to it.

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If you're editing video, you have to listen and watch.

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Sometimes there's editing where you barely need to listen, but

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even then it's like maybe i'd put on a podcast

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or something, you're not gonna watch a movie. So yeah,

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it's very rare that I have that ability to just

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kind of letever and I just have the movie on

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the TV. And that was what I felt like. By

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the time the last movie ended at like twelve thirty

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at night, I was like, I was like, oh, I

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feel like I'm working a night watching them this job.

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I'm just like, look at the TV. I hear noise

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and goes that broken that's fine, fine, And I'm like, oh,

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I'm watching you know, uh roder And I was watching

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like Roger Corman movies from the nineties that nobody knows.

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I found. I found one that like nobody knows, you've

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told me about it had four reviews on IMDb.

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That's it. Yeah, Oh, I gotta check my letter box out.

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Yeah quick, whichever, No way, if you are watching this

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show and you went, oh quake, yeah with Steve Rails

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back then, you should email in do youeven moviepot at

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gmail dot com and let us know because that's weird.

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Yeah, that absolutely is.

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But anyway, it was really good. But as I was

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watching that, I watched like Bloodfist three, I watched a documentary,

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I watched a bunch of stuff. My point is just

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that it was funny watching something so passively. Actually it

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was really fun. Yeah, do you Even Movie?

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Will be right back, Welcome back to do You Even Movie?

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In general, there's something to be said for giving a

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film your undivided attention, or as undivided as you can,

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and that's a struggle for a lot of people.

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Well, and especially with COVID happening in twenty twenty being

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the year that we started seeing all these major films

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get released to streaming services. So people in large amounts

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I don't think have returned to the theater.

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I mean obviously, well, well, the theaters were declining anyway

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to an extent, and that's just gonna be the nature

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of the beast, because watching movies is becoming more and

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more and more convenient and it's not like we can, bitch,

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we make like an hour and a half to two

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hours show a week that you can watch for free.

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This is true via the internet, you know. It's that's

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the future, that's where we are now. And I do

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miss that nostalgia, you know, of the video store and

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stuff like that. But I totally understand why it lost

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the fight. It's just the convenience of you don't even

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leave your couch versus you have to leave your home,

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you have to go somewhere.

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You have to walk, you know, be respectful.

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Well, if the sheriff's around, yeah, pants on. But so

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But the other thing I want to mention is the

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other problem. It's not just about not paying attention. It's

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also about people so desperately want to have something to

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say yeah about the films that they've just watched. And

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for the most part, most people feel like if you

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don't have something negative to say, if you don't have

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a harsh criticism, yeah, then you've got nothing interesting to

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set And.

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I disagree whole heart.

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I disagree too. And if we're wrong, you must be

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really bored listening to the show because we're so positive

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most of the time. But that's that's that's always been

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my attitude. In fact, the movies, and you've known this

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our entire friendship the movies I'm most critical of are

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the ones that we walk out of that I like, yeah,

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I'll walk out of it and go, man, that was great.

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Wouldn't the third act have been better if this had happened? Yeah?

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I mean we saw we saw Long Legs two weeks

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ago now, and we've still been talking about it every

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time we see each other, basically like just been waking

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some stuff up.

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I really enjoyed it, even though I thought it wasn't

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it wasn't perfect. I really enjoyed it.

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I don't the reviews. I mean, the reviews hype it

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up a bit, but it does. It does definitely have

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a place in horror, But I don't think it's the

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next groundbreaking one that everybody's making it out to be.

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Sweetheart, It's already groundbreaking.

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Well the yeah, box office wise it is.

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Yeah, it's already a ground breaking horror.

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Oh yeah, no, no, no, I know that I'm saying. I'm

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more so saying content wise, like it's the scariest movie.

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Of the year. I I I like it's hard because

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like the things I found hokey about it, If I

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say out loud, I spoil some for people. And I

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and I think the best way to go into Long

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Legs is knowing nothing. I think the best way to

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go into most movies is knowing absolutely nothing.

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The only thing I'm gonna say no spoilers at all,

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is that a certain actor in it could definitely do

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a Tiny Tim biopic that I would be all in on.

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That's it, Okay, I would love to see him do

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that too.

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I mean, yeah, I mean he was kind of a

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cross between Tiny Tim and Michael Jackson. Yeah.

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I wrote on Letterbox tiny Tim impersonation from Hell, so.

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A Tiny Tim, and I love Tiny Tim, but he

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got a little scary.

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Therefore, especially towards the end of his Howard Stern appearances.

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Well, he literally his face looked like a mortician did

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his making. He just was terrified.

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Oh he was anyway, and then he made himself a

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clown blood Harvest.

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And I really love Tiny Tim. I think he's a

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fascinating person with fascinating music.

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Eternal Troubadour. His bio that the guy that was on

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Justin Martel Martell. He wasn't just on Joe Bob. He

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is the producer, creator of the Last Driver. Yeah, but

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his book is phenomenal.

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I was at the convention when the book came out

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and I had a table next to him. That's that's

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how weird it was when I found out Justin Bartell's like,

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I know that name, this guy I sat next to

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for a weekend in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. So no, no, yeah, anyway, yes,

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we've got enough topics all that digression to say, Yeah,

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you know, when you can sit down, put your phone

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in the other room and stop watching a film already

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trying to articulate what you want to say about it, Yeah,

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that is definitely the worst way to go about watching

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a movie. I mean, you know, I don't know. I

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can only speak as the anxiety riddled goblin that I am.

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I get that. My point, I apologize. My point in

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wrapping this up is that I think it's become and

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you nailed it, is I think it's become way too

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easy to wax negatively about a film. People will make

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quips on their letterbox like that's the review is just

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like one smarmy line of it, and it's just like,

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well that didn't give me anything, like what do you

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actually think about the movie? Sort of thing. So I

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feel like there's absolutely a place for that stuff too,

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and I get that, but I feel like a large

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amount of viewers these days are not enjoying films.

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Well, it's just the desperate need to be based. Yeah.

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And meanwhile, I'm over here being cringe and I'm proud

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of it. So let's talk about it with you. Like

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a stupid fucking movie from the nineties.

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Hell yeah, we are talking about I Know what You

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Did Last Summer from nineteen ninety seven, one hour and

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forty one minutes, rated R for strong horror, violence and language.

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I did feel like the horror violence was strong.

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It absolutely is.

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No.

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This is one that we actually talked about this off, Mike.

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This is where I get into a debate of what

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is a horror versus a thriller?

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Yeah, which I mean a lot of people would say

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the only difference is a horror and a thriller is

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an Academy Award.

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This is actually very fucking true.

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Wow, Because if you have a horror film and it

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suddenly becomes super successful, if it becomes Silence of the Lambs,

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then all of a sudden, it's a thriller and it

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has value. But if it's just playing on cable and

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making teenagers scared, then it's a horror movie. It's a

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piece of garbage. It's just here to come and to go.

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But this is one of those movies to me that

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embodies everything that you could want from a ninety slasher

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after Scream setting out that whole track.

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Basically, well, Scream reinvented the slasher movie. The slasher movie

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was incredibly stale by eighty nine and ninety, and Scream

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took it and put it on top of its head

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and made people want to watch slasher movies. But now

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instead of wanting to see a group of kids go

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to fix up a summer camp, yeah or whatever, it

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became all about suburban kids, which makes sense because that's

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who's going to see the movies, whether they're suburban kids

465
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or the parents of suburban kids. They wanted it to

466
00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.839
be about suburban kids. They all had to look great.

467
00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:06.599
That's why the joke is they cast off of the

468
00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.079
WB because it was literally all these teeny bopper people.

469
00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:13.160
I mean, Scream had it, I know he did last

470
00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:16.160
summer had it. The faculty. Yeah, yeah, they had these

471
00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:21.400
you know, great looking young, generally white kids. Which is

472
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.640
interesting because then when the WB became like the bastion

473
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:31.079
of people of color television. It was originally the place

474
00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:33.920
where you watched white kids be mad at each other

475
00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:36.440
and make out, which I always thought was like, it

476
00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.599
was like an evolution. I gotta love that evolution. So

477
00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.240
but that's that was the big change. Is it went

478
00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:44.359
from it went from like kind of a down and

479
00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:47.640
dirty noss to being like, no, no, no, we want

480
00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:51.720
good looking young people at most college age good looking

481
00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:54.400
young people. And of course now we're and as we're

482
00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:56.960
heading into the two thousands, you know, it just met

483
00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:01.839
like dudes wearing like gauntlet banded abandoned things on their

484
00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:04.440
arms and girls showing their middrift because that was the

485
00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:07.720
era of the mid drift was so and that's where

486
00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:09.680
you get great films, like we've talked about Urban Legend.

487
00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:13.440
Urban Legend was cast just like that as well. It

488
00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:18.359
just became the thing. And really it didn't stop being

489
00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.240
massively popular until Saw.

490
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:20.680
Yeah.

491
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.799
So that's a good almost ten years, about a decade,

492
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.039
ye yeah, yeah, about a decade. And and that's the thing.

493
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:28.960
And and but you know people, you know, people don't

494
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:29.680
talk about enough.

495
00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:31.519
Tell me they don't.

496
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:36.720
Talk enough about there was this little pocket from about

497
00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:40.319
ninety nine or two thousand maybe two thousand and one

498
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:44.160
until about two thousand and seven or eight, where there

499
00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.039
were a bunch of monster movies again that is yeah,

500
00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:50.200
you're absolutely right, and not just like Lake Placid. Yeah,

501
00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:54.359
not just those, but like Toby Hooper's Crocodile, Crocodile two Death,

502
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:57.759
Roll Octapus too. Well, but we're talking before the sci

503
00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.440
Fi Channel thing. Oh yeah, like those movies ended up

504
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.039
on the Sci Fi Channel because they fit. But these

505
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.839
were direct to video movies mostly, almost all of them

506
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:09.799
made by New Image, which New Image was founded by

507
00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:13.319
two guys who worked at Cannon Films, so they were

508
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:16.160
running with it. Avi Lerner was the main founder of

509
00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:19.279
New Image and they meet. But they made these monster

510
00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.920
movies and they were hugely popular. But you know what

511
00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:27.599
they all did that had the attractive teenagers. They all

512
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:30.680
had the Dawson Creek casting. So now that I'm thinking

513
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:32.400
about it, now that I'm saying it out loud to you,

514
00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:36.640
I'm going, wait, I guess it was part of in

515
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.279
a way, it was part of the same breath of

516
00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:41.920
fresh air, because well, breath of fresh air which made

517
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:47.720
everything the same. And yeah, everything that's new is everything

518
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:49.880
that's old is new again, and everything that's new gets

519
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.839
crusty so that you could quote me on that. Put

520
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:57.359
that on my tombstone. But but but yeah, that's I

521
00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:01.079
just want to mention that I because I was right

522
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:02.960
at that time in two thousand and two thousand and one,

523
00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:05.119
two thousand and two, I was the kid with the

524
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:08.160
DVD player, right when they became affordable, who was buying

525
00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:10.759
up these new image movies that were all over the

526
00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:13.240
shelves of Blockbuster. Yeah, and then a year later they'd

527
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.319
air on sci Fi. And it was before sci Fi

528
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.119
started making them all themselves and started making them really

529
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:21.400
wacky and because they realized people were watching them for bad.

530
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:22.039
Movie, bad movie.

531
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.039
Yeah, it blows my mind to look at those. So

532
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:27.839
I just want to mention that, like it wasn't the

533
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:32.240
cycle wasn't only slashers yet it was a lot of

534
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:33.160
slasher movies.

535
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.200
And I mean I and I think what I like

536
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:37.160
most about I Know you did last summer is that

537
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.799
it's it doesn't follow the screen formula exactly in regards

538
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.200
of its pacing, because you know, infamously we open on

539
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.119
screen with the death of Drew Barrymore's character. Yeah, then

540
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.400
we move into you know, some menacing but then the

541
00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:51.359
principal dies who was Henry Winklish character.

542
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:54.920
And remember though the death of Drew barrymore call back

543
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.720
to Hitchcock. Everything that's old is new. Yeah.

544
00:25:57.839 --> 00:25:59.640
Yeah, and that's what I love about I know you'd

545
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:02.319
lest so is It's pacing is so good when it

546
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:04.799
comes to the menacing that when we get to the kills,

547
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:05.960
it's just like, oh, yeah, I guess it is. I

548
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:07.000
guess it is a horror film.

549
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:10.559
Well, and if you read the book, the Lowess Duncan book.

550
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:11.440
Yeah, which we'll talk about her too.

551
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.240
Those books are all about that era of books, let

552
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.359
alone her books. Yeah, they were all about suspense, who

553
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:19.799
done it? All of that stuff because they were meant

554
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.119
for even younger audiences than these movies.

555
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.279
Well yeah, surrounding I mean it's it is one of

556
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:29.039
those both an author that was really good at doing

557
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:30.960
the teen horror that didn't have a lot of deaths

558
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.799
in it, just more so mystery thrillers.

559
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:33.559
Well because they were for young adults.

560
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.400
Yeah yeah, and then aiming this right towards the end,

561
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:36.960
I mean yeah, it just all works out. So our

562
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.480
director on the film is Jim Gillespie. He gets his

563
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:42.480
start in nineteen ninety two, with Encounters, cardiac arrests in

564
00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:45.960
nineteen ninety four, Shooting Gallery ninety five, Ghostbusters of each

565
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:49.319
Fendley in ninety five, what he does the Queen Mother

566
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:51.599
Love video in ninety six, Made in Heaven video for

567
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.799
Queen in ninety seven. Then in ninety seven he also

568
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:55.799
does I Know What You Did. Last summer two thousand

569
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.960
and two he does the less lesser loved stallone Thrilled

570
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:00.759
ice You.

571
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:02.279
I kind of like icy.

572
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:04.400
I love the opening with that fucking murder, with that

573
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:04.960
nail gun.

574
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:09.440
That is vicious, and it's I eye ye Cu because

575
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:10.359
it's very cless.

576
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.440
I think it's called dtox is the other title for it.

577
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.240
That's not a bad title, Yeah, take Detoxact. But I've

578
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:16.440
always had a soft spot for Icey.

579
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:17.160
See was fun.

580
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:20.319
The last time I watched ICU, I was literally in

581
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:24.440
bed board, probably five years ago, and my Roque who

582
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:27.240
advertised me to watch it with ads on some street

583
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.359
random streaming service, and I did, and when it was over,

584
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.000
I was like, that was pretty solid.

585
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:35.519
I mean, it's basically a white out with Kate Beckinsale

586
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:37.720
or in the early twenty tens ripped it off because

587
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:38.680
that's basically what it is.

588
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:40.319
It's a really good point.

589
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.359
So that he does The Legacy two thousand and two,

590
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.759
Venom in two thousand and five, oh and then Billionaire

591
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:48.799
Ransom in twenty sixteen, and that is the last on

592
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.319
his directing resume. Moving down to our writer, as Enrique mentioned,

593
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.680
we have Lois Duncan. She was a writer and journalist

594
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.839
who started in nineteen fifty eight with Love Song for Joyce.

595
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.960
She then writes A Game of Danger sixty two. Books

596
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:02.720
are movies, These are books. I got her movie seven.

597
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:03.880
I'm sorry, I just want to make sure I was

598
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:04.519
ta okay.

599
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:04.799
Yeah.

600
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.680
Her novel A Game of Danger sixty two, Point of Violence, Ransom,

601
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:09.799
Hotel for Dogs in seventy one. Then I Know what

602
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:11.480
you did last summer in nineteen seventy three.

603
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.319
Wow, that was that old? That old.

604
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:16.000
When the bow breaks, Yeah, when the Bow breaks in

605
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.519
seventy three, Killing mister Griffin in seventy eight, Daughters of

606
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.440
Even seventy nine. Nineteen ninety two, she writes a nonfiction

607
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.039
piece called who Killed My Daughter? Because tragically in the

608
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:28.119
early nineties her daughter was found murdered. They still never

609
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.599
were able to solve that she was shot.

610
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.079
Yeah, that was a massive thing because she was considered

611
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.519
one of the masters of the who killed so and

612
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.279
so Yeah books, Yeah, and then all of a sudden

613
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.440
to be a victim of that kind of crime. It's

614
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:42.279
very terrified.

615
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.880
Notoriously wrote one more of those books after that event

616
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:46.480
and then never wrote anything like that again.

617
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:47.400
I don't blame her.

618
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.920
So then, going to her movie resume, she has Summer

619
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:51.839
of Fear in nineteen seventy eight, the Linda Blair Wes

620
00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.880
Craven film, Uh Killing Mister Griffin in nineteen ninety seven,

621
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:56.519
I Know what you did last summer in ninety seven,

622
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:58.799
I've been waiting for you in nineteen ninety eight. I

623
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.400
still know what you did last summer? Because she gets

624
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.200
credit for characters Don't Look behind You in ninety nine,

625
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.440
Held for Ransom in two thousand, Always Know what you

626
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:07.079
did last Summer in two thousand and six.

627
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.039
Hold On, hold On, I knew it.

628
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.880
It's important, Hotel for Dogs in two thousand and nine,

629
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:15.640
and then Down a Dark Hall in twenty eighteen is

630
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.119
her last credit. She is a writer that I cannot

631
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.400
recommend enough for her young adult novels. Some of those

632
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.119
are fantastic. One of my favorites is uh.

633
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:24.960
Oh god, what is that?

634
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.240
I think it's called thrilling Thrilled to kill? I think

635
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:30.839
is the title of it. That's when I read in

636
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:31.920
high school that was really good.

637
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:35.319
Do You Even?

638
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:35.759
Movie?

639
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:47.000
Will be right back, welcome back to Do You Even? Movie?

640
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.160
Moving on down to our other writer, we have Kevin Williamson.

641
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:55.400
Of course, he gets his fame in nineteen ninety six

642
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.160
with Scream I Know What You Did Last Summer? In

643
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.119
ninety seven is the writer, Scream two is the writer

644
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.359
in ninety seven is one Well, the faculty in ninety eight,

645
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.799
Teach m mis Tingle in ninety nine. He's the director

646
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.480
on Teach mis Tingle as well. He writes for Scream

647
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.440
three in two thousand, Dawson's Creak in two thousand, Cursed

648
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.279
in two thousand and five with the first film Scream four.

649
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:16.079
He has characters in twenty eleven, Stalker in twenty fourteen,

650
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:18.960
the following TV series in twenty thirteen, The Vampire Diaries

651
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.400
in two thousand and nine, Screen TV series in twenty fifteen,

652
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.799
and the Scream six and twenty twenty three.

653
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:25.799
Well, of course, yeah yeah.

654
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.160
And then moving down to our cinematographer, we have Denise

655
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.480
Crossan gets to start in nineteen eighty nine, with Melancholia,

656
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:35.039
Silent Scream in nineteen ninety A, Murder Equality in ninety one,

657
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.039
Blue Ice in nineteen ninety two, The Real McCoy ninety three.

658
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.960
You've ever seen the real McCoy? Val Kilmer and it's

659
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:46.039
Val Kilmer and I want to say, oh my god,

660
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.960
I can picture her face, Vicky Vale from Batman, Kim Basinger.

661
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:50.359
I have not seen that one.

662
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.319
Kim Basinger is a professional thief and she has retired,

663
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:55.200
and these guys kidnap her son because they wanted to

664
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:58.000
do one more heist for her. Huh, it's really good.

665
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.119
That sounds pretty good. But you mentioned Blue Ice by

666
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.400
the way with Chila, Yeah, that's the one with Jamie

667
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:04.079
Lee Curtis, right.

668
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:05.960
I think so yeahere's that Blue Steel. No, that's blue Steel.

669
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.039
I don't know the Blue Ice I think is a

670
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.319
I think, don't quote me, and it may not be

671
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.119
the same movie with Vinegar Center put out a Blue Ice.

672
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:13.799
That might be the same movie, which is like a

673
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:14.920
sexy thriller. I want to see.

674
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:16.119
You heard Dave quote him?

675
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:18.759
Do not quote me? No, stre Damis in nineteen ninety four.

676
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.960
He shoots Killer Tongue in nineteen eighty six, then does

677
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.640
I know what you did last summer? In ninety seven

678
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:23.559
Kill Her Tongue?

679
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:25.640
And other one of those movies in all those boxes

680
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.079
we just watched. Rumpel Stiltson Tongue was always passed. Still

681
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.039
going to ever seen it? I have not me neither.

682
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.680
I'd be in, I'd be down incognito in ninety seven.

683
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:38.880
Also shoots The Clandeston Marriage in ninety eight, The Hole

684
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:40.240
in two thousand and one. Have you ever seen The

685
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:44.039
Hole with thora Birch, I don't know that. I have

686
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.319
a very very fucked up psychological thriller where her and

687
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:50.960
her friends are in college and they they find this

688
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.359
bunker and they make that their party spot, and then

689
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:55.079
one day they find out they're all locked inside the

690
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.079
bunker and they can't get out. Really, it is fucking

691
00:31:59.039 --> 00:31:59.559
it's out there.

692
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:00.519
Yes, that sounds good.

693
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:01.759
It's intense, well, by the way.

694
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:05.079
Blue Ice from nineteen ninety two is a film with

695
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.799
Michael Kine, Oh, Michael Kin and.

696
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:08.960
Shan Young Oh Shan Yong.

697
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:13.440
Okay, yeah, So a former British Secret Service agent falls

698
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.039
for an American woman and becomes Entangled in a Web

699
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:17.039
of Espiona.

700
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:18.039
I don't think that's the same movie.

701
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:19.839
I do not think so anyway.

702
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.240
So then Agent Cody Banks in two thousand.

703
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.880
And three, Now we're cooking with gas.

704
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.359
Agent Cody Banks two, The London Assignment in two thousand

705
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.839
and four. All right, that he does Pink Panther two

706
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.480
in two thousand and nine, Outlander TV series twenty fourteen,

707
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.839
Urban hym in twenty fifteen, The Bastard Executioner in twenty fifteen,

708
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.400
shoots Billionaire Ransom, one of the director's last film in

709
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.880
twenty sixteen, shoots Into the bad Lands for AMC in

710
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.119
twenty eighteen, Asher in eighteen, Doctor Hugh in twenty eighteen,

711
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.000
Pray for the Devil in twenty twenty two, and most

712
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.319
recently completed shooting on The Rig in twenty twenty three.

713
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:49.720
I've not heard of The Rig.

714
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:53.400
I believe that's a Netflix original. Okay, So moving down

715
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.720
to our IMB synopsis real quick, Yes, sir.

716
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.200
Totally off topic. Did you watch the Platform when I

717
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:00.400
told you to watch an on Netflix?

718
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:00.480
No?

719
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.079
Because I just got my Netflix back so it's in

720
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:03.720
my watch list again and I want to watch it

721
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:04.319
really badly.

722
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.400
Are you aware you're not.

723
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:06.960
Uh uh.

724
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:08.480
Sequel drops in October.

725
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.799
No shit? Yeah, oh okay, yeah.

726
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.160
If anybody has not seen the Spanish film The Platform,

727
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.559
you should and sequel drops in October anyway, So.

728
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.000
I'm synopsis says four young friends bound by tragic accident

729
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.319
are reunited when they find themselves being stocked by a

730
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:25.079
hook wheeling maniac and their small seaside town is that.

731
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.039
There is no fat on that that is done though.

732
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.119
My synopsis, Oh boy, a tragic accident, tragic accidental hit

733
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.119
and run comes back to haunt fourteen's a year later

734
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.240
when a hook wheeling psychopath begins to stalk them.

735
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.119
They're the same picture.

736
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.119
I mean, I took out the seaside town.

737
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.559
Yeah, which honestly is the best part is it really

738
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:45.559
tells you what it's like.

739
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:47.519
You know me, I'm a sucker for seaside town. So

740
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:48.680
that's probably why I love this movie.

741
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:51.319
What are your top twenty seven seaside town movies?

742
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.799
Twenty seven? Huh No, what's one you like? Storm of

743
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.200
the Century by far Oh yeah, that's a I mean,

744
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.559
it's it's it's kind of an easygoat because you and

745
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.039
I talked about this, but oh fuck, I'm blaking on

746
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.559
the title, what's Flannagan's vampire story?

747
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:07.599
Well, if that's a series not a film.

748
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.440
Yeah, but Night Mass thank you.

749
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.360
Yeah. Storm of the Century is too. You're right, you

750
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:14.159
suck so.

751
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.599
Our caest is Jennifer Love Hewitt, who plays Julie James

752
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:19.599
in this. She gets to start in nineteen eighty nine

753
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.519
with kids Incorporated, then goes on to be in Munchie

754
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:23.400
in nineteen ninety two.

755
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:27.440
Jim Minorski can say he discovered her, yes, he can,

756
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.719
She denies that was back when she went by love Hewitt. Yeah,

757
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:32.440
her first name was love back, then.

758
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:34.840
Shaky Ground in nineteen ninety two, Little Miss Millions in

759
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.039
ninety three, which is the poster he shows in Papatopoulos.

760
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.559
Well, and Little Miss Millions and Munchie were both directed.

761
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.119
Yeah, Jim min Minorski sister Act two back in the

762
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.360
Habit in ninety three, then Nails Party of five in

763
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.119
nineteen ninety five, appears in House Arrest in ninety ninety six.

764
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:48.920
I Know what you did last Summer in ninety six.

765
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:49.159
Wow.

766
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.599
Wo House Wrest was one year before that. Yeah, she

767
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:52.679
looks so much younger.

768
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.880
Well, I mean, David, Yes, I want you to take

769
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.519
take a second. Okay, I'm gonna explain P. Two.

770
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:01.239
Oh my god.

771
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:03.679
See this is why no one takes the time too,

772
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:04.920
is because you're such a brad about it.

773
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.320
Boy Meets World in nineteen ninety eight, Can't Hardly Wait

774
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.239
in nineteen ninety eight, smash Mouth, Can't Get enough of

775
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.519
You Baby Video in ninety eight, I Still Know What

776
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:13.760
You Did Last Summer in ninety eight, Hercules, The Adventure

777
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:17.079
of Tom Thumb and Thumb, Ballina, Heartbreakers, Hunchback of Notre Dame, two,

778
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.199
Family Guy in two thousand and two, The Tuxedo American Dreams,

779
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.440
Garfield The Movie in two thousand and four, The Truth

780
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.559
About Love in two thousand and five, Ghost Whisper in

781
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:26.840
two thousand and five, Garfield A Tail, Two Kiddies in

782
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.480
two thousand and six, Hey If It works, Traffic Thunder

783
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:30.920
in two thousand and eight, which I don't remember her.

784
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:33.920
In Shoot, I'm not sure I remember.

785
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.440
Maybe she was in one of the trailers in More

786
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.639
with a casting or like when they do the when

787
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.480
they go to the premieres and stuff they showed the footage.

788
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:40.400
Maybe I don't know.

789
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.599
The client list in twenty ten, Lawn Order SVU twenty

790
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:45.840
ten Hot in Cleveland twenty eleven, the Client List TV

791
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.559
series in twenty twelve, and most recently, she's been on

792
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:51.760
nine to one to one on in twenty eighteen. Oh okay, nice,

793
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.159
Sarah Michelle gellar next to Our Castle is to pays

794
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.519
Hell and Schiber's in this. She was in Burger King

795
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.400
commercials in nineteen eighty two as a ky I.

796
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:00.960
Just saw that in the theater. Yeah, I like commercials.

797
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:04.960
Have you seen any of them? No, it's her, Leah Thompson,

798
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.280
Sarah Michelle Geller. God, who else is it?

799
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:08.679
Uh?

800
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:10.760
God, there's another one I can't think of, but like

801
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.159
all three, four five of them are on YouTube.

802
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.039
And Sarah Michelle Geller was in the Sarah Michelle Geller.

803
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.960
Yeah crazy right, fuck you over the Brooklyn Bridge in

804
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.880
nineteen eighty four, High Stakes in eighty nine, Swans Crossing

805
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.119
in ninety two, appears on All My Children in ninety three,

806
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:26.559
Then Does I Know What You Did Last Summer in

807
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.480
ninety seven, gets on Buffy the Vampire Slayer in ninety seven,

808
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.360
Scream two in ninety seven, Small Soldiers in nineteen ninety eight,

809
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.480
King of the Hill in ninety eight, She's All That

810
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.960
in ninety nine, Simply Irresistible ninety nine, Cruel Intentions, Angel

811
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.440
Sex and the City. Harvard Man does Scooby Doo in

812
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.320
two thousand and two, Scooby Doo two in two thousand

813
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.719
and four, The Grudge, Robot Chicken, The Return Southland Tails

814
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.119
The Grudge two in two thousand and six, TMNT in

815
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.320
two thousand and seven. Veronicas decides to die in two

816
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:51.559
thousand and nine, which I love that title.

817
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:52.559
That's a good title.

818
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.880
Possession in two thousand and nine, The Crazy Ones twenty thirteen,

819
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.000
Cruel Intentions in twenty sixteen, Masters of the Universe, Revelation

820
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.320
in twenty twenty one. Most recently was in Clerk's three

821
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:03.519
in twenty twenty two. Oh wow, she has had its

822
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:04.960
appearances herself. It's pretty cute.

823
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:05.480
Oh okay.

824
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.000
And then wrapping us up is a Freddy Prince junior

825
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:09.719
who plays Ray Bronson in this But when I say

826
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.440
wrapping this up, there's so many names in this movie.

827
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:12.639
We'll cover a little bit more.

828
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.559
Believe it or not, every single person in this film

829
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:16.079
had a name.

830
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.000
It's crazy. Family Matters in nineteen ninety five, gets his

831
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:20.960
start House of Yes in ninety seven.

832
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.159
I mean, I do love me some house of Yes.

833
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:24.679
That is such an that might to the.

834
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.639
Show because that's a that's one that needs.

835
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:28.840
To be Oh, I'm willingly, but that is what nobody's

836
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.639
ready for. Nope, no, they're not even vaguely ready for it.

837
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.159
Detention The Seeds of Johnson High in ninety seven. I

838
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:36.199
Know what you did last summer in ninety seven, Sparkler,

839
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:37.960
I still know what you did last summer. She's all

840
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.639
that wing commander down to you in two thousand, Boys

841
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.760
and Girls in two thousand, Head Over Heels, Summer Catch Fraser,

842
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.320
Scooby Doo Friends, Scooby Doo two, Boston Legal in two

843
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:49.880
thousand and four, the short lived show Freddy in two

844
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.559
thousand and five, Yeah, Yeah, his own Chew for a bit,

845
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:56.199
George Lopez Show in two thousand and six, The Reef,

846
00:37:56.360 --> 00:38:00.920
Happily Never After, Brooklyn Rules, Mass Effect, Bones, Star Wars, Rebels,

847
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.519
Punky Brewster, and also appeared in Clerk's Three in twenty

848
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:05.440
twenty two, Fair enough the O. They're both in the

849
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:06.000
same scene.

850
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.599
Oh, it was like, I know you did last summer Reunion.

851
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.000
It totally was so Also appearing in the cast, we

852
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.599
have Anne Hayes, who plays Melissa Egan. Ryan Felippe plays

853
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.119
Barry Cox. We have Muse Watson who plays Ben Willis

854
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.440
and the Fisherman, and we also have Johnny Gilecki who

855
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:19.039
plays Max.

856
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:19.719
Oh.

857
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:26.719
Yeah, from a big bank from Roseanne Chris's vacation. I mean,

858
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:28.599
there's a bunch of a bunch of sids. Luck he's

859
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.119
been in. So I know what you did last summer.

860
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:33.880
Unfortunately at this time of recording is not streaming anywhere.

861
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:35.800
But you can't easily rent it in any place you

862
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:36.599
get your videos from.

863
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.880
Yeah, anywhere you pay to watch a film, you can

864
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:39.639
pay to watch it.

865
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:41.440
So what was your first time watching I know what

866
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:42.239
you did last summer?

867
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.519
Gosh I had I had a sister was nine years

868
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.800
older than me. Yeah, she had to see it, so

869
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:50.719
because what it came out in what ninety eight? Seven

870
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:55.000
ninety seven, So I was eleven years old, So I'm

871
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:57.000
sure I wanted to watch it, but I garan damn

872
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.239
t you. My sister, being eighteen or nineteen at that time,

873
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.519
was the one who went to Blockbuster Video and rented

874
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:07.400
that film because you had to if you were a teenager.

875
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.599
I mean it was the zeitgeist. Yeah, so I remember

876
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:14.320
watching it on tape and thinking it was pretty spooky,

877
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:18.039
you know, and violent, and also even as a young man,

878
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.679
being very fascinated by the what are you waiting?

879
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.559
I have some fun trivia about that scene. Well good,

880
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:26.400
oh my god.

881
00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:29.119
But I remembered liking it. It was it was definitely

882
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.159
I was already into horror movies because it got into

883
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.920
horror movies way too young. Yeah, so I always liked it.

884
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.840
I liked Scream more as a young man, I did.

885
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.039
And then I remember catching it on HBO a lot, okay,

886
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:45.880
very early, and it's released, so I probably watched it

887
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.559
on HBO, you know a few dozen now you've done

888
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:51.440
a few dozen, maybe a dozen times. And then I

889
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.960
also remember one time renting it for a sleepover.

890
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:54.760
Oh hell yeah.

891
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:59.960
So that's my memory because being eleven twelve years old,

892
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.679
when when you have Scream and I know what you

893
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:04.800
did last summer out, yeah, that kind of started to

894
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.519
replace the mindset of everything being Freddie and Jason. Yeah,

895
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:11.159
so you would go to slumber parties and people be like,

896
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:12.559
I brought I know what you did last summer. I

897
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.679
brought I still know what you did last summer, And

898
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:18.559
that was becoming a bigger write of passage to watch.

899
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:20.800
And then it was kind of the old school heads

900
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:22.519
like me who would be like, I brought night right

901
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:24.400
on the Street three and they'd be like what, and

902
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.599
I'd like, you'll see so or worse, I brought Sleepway Camp.

903
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.679
There you go. But I remember the one thing that

904
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.639
I remember about the Fisherman in particular is that he

905
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.800
actually was on the Boogeyman compilation back in the day.

906
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.840
Oh I remember that, Yeah, So he became he became

907
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:42.559
a staple that my first time watching it, though I

908
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:43.920
was five years old in the movie came out, so

909
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:45.840
I did not see it in theaters, nor did I

910
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:47.920
probably see it on while.

911
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:49.440
A nerdy five year old.

912
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:55.039
I remember this premiered on TNT and it was AIG deal.

913
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.320
Yeah, And that was at the.

914
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.480
Time that I was allowed to watch stuff on TV,

915
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.239
even if it was technically R rated.

916
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:04.079
Well yeah, because they cut out all the good s.

917
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:05.960
They cut all the good stuff. So I remember watching

918
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.679
this as it premiered, and actually my mom watched it

919
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:11.519
with me, and the Fourth of July sequence with Sarah

920
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:15.880
Michelle Geller's character gave me nightmares because I still remember

921
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.719
the nightmare of like just wandering around the dock, and

922
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:19.920
the fishermen would like pop out of places like that's

923
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.199
that's that's the shit that I dealt with in my dreams.

924
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.400
So Dave's dreams were like sitting on the dock of

925
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:26.079
the bay.

926
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.519
But I found it. I found it scary, really good.

927
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.079
And then about five six years ago, you and I

928
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.159
on a whim actually now I think it was twenty

929
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.239
twenty on a whim just decided to do One and

930
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.159
two back to back. Yeah, and I remembered I always

931
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:41.800
liked the movie. I think I owned it on VHS.

932
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:43.599
I may even had the Triple I had the Triple

933
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:45.639
Feature DVD because I had always know for a while.

934
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:49.400
But then it was one of those movies that, like,

935
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:50.760
I'd seen it so many times that I kind of

936
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.159
forgot how good it was. And then when you and

937
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.039
I revisited One and Two back to back, I was

938
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.079
just like, God, damn, this is a really fun slasher

939
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:58.599
thriller from the nineties.

940
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:02.119
Yeah, no, I mean it solid, it really is, and

941
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:07.239
it's delightfully dated. Yeah, just like just like all of

942
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.000
those from that era, just like the faculties, delightfully dated,

943
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.360
just like all the screen movies are delightfully dated.

944
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.119
So and the rewatch value is there because the one

945
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.840
thing I do remember about the TNCU premiere that they

946
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:18.880
did all the time was when it premiered, it would

947
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:21.840
have an encore immediately after. Oh yeah yeah, so watching

948
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.079
it twice that night. So are you ready to get

949
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:26.719
into I know what you did last summer?

950
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.199
Sure? Forty one minutes in, let's do it.

951
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.559
Let's do it. So we open with a beautiful shot

952
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.039
of the oceans of the town of Southport, whilst Typo

953
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.480
Negatives cover of Summer Breeze serenades us.

954
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.599
Remember when we said delightfully, delightfully dated.

955
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:44.400
There you go. So we are going over the waters

956
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:45.920
and that's when we see a young man sitting on

957
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.920
the edge of a cliff and he's flipping around a

958
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.119
pendant and we can see the guy's distraught. He does

959
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.679
not look like he's in the best spirits. I guess

960
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.719
he's say fun, He's fine? Is that sure?

961
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:55.679
He's fine.

962
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:57.920
He's looking down at the water and you know, he

963
00:42:58.039 --> 00:42:59.679
just is flipping this pending around and that's when we

964
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:01.559
see some fireworks go off. And now we're at the

965
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.480
fourth of July Southport Festival.

966
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:04.920
Damn right, and.

967
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.400
We're on a seaside town and that's when we cut

968
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.440
to a beauty pageant where we meet Helen Shivers, who

969
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:11.639
was played by Sarah Michelle Geller. And that's when we

970
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.159
also meet her friends Julie, Barry and Ray as she's

971
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:15.960
on stage and they're watching her from this balcony as

972
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.679
she's being crowned as the Miss Salmon of the are

973
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:20.880
not Miss Samon I'm going back to even I was.

974
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:23.360
I was about to say she's being grabbed with the

975
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.320
beauty pageant of of their of their festival. And that's

976
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.679
when Max and all the rest of the crew or

977
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.880
excuse me not Max, Barry, Helen, Julie all go to

978
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:34.199
the parade and they're enjoying themselves. We meet Max played

979
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.159
by Johnny Gilecki, and he tries to give Julia a

980
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.719
drink and Barry is kind of drunk at this point.

981
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.159
He's not having it, so he gets into a little

982
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:40.480
bit of a fight.

983
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:42.840
I wouldn't call him drunk, I would call him charming charming.

984
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.679
Okay, my apologies, he was toast charming. Yes, yeah. So

985
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:47.079
they decide that they're going to go to the to

986
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.039
the beach and they're going to continue their party there,

987
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:50.840
and we cut to the beach and they're telling urban

988
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:52.840
legends about the Man with the Hook, except they're all

989
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:53.239
getting it.

990
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.920
Wrong, or they're all getting it right, different variations of

991
00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:58.679
the Man with the Hook.

992
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.239
Yeah, everybody's correcting each other. And so finally the two

993
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.280
begin to separate as Helen and Barry start to make

994
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:04.800
it on the beach, Ray and Julie go for a

995
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.119
walk and Julie gets fake spooped out by Ray as

996
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:08.760
he comes up on her, and that's when they get

997
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.119
new discussion about how she's supposed to going to college

998
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:12.760
in Boston and he's like, well, you could come to

999
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.760
New York with me. So they're they're together, but they're

1000
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:21.079
getting ready to separate because of college. Heartbreaking, heartbreaking Indeed,

1001
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:33.880
do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back

1002
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:35.159
to Do You Even?

1003
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:35.639
Movie?

1004
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:41.480
So that's when they eventually decide to leave the beach,

1005
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:43.360
and that's when Julie's in the car with Barry, who

1006
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.440
is just being a complete asshole. She's put off by

1007
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.159
his drunken behavior. He jacks the radio volume up and

1008
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:50.039
then goes out of the sunroof of the car where

1009
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.480
he is just hooting and hollering, drops the bottle of

1010
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:54.599
liquor into the car, which spills into the car, and

1011
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.679
as they're trying to figure out what to do the bottle,

1012
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.320
Ray accidentally plows into somebody that's on the road.

1013
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.440
Yeah, somebody walking on the side of the road. Yeah,

1014
00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:03.320
dressed all in black.

1015
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.880
Dressed all in black. So Berry's covered in blood and

1016
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.280
they're freaking out and he's like, it's not my blood.

1017
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.079
And that's when they realize they hit something. They don't

1018
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.760
realize they hit somebody yet, so they grab flashlights. They

1019
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.039
go along the road. That's when they find the body.

1020
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.239
Well, well, first she finds the boot. Finds the boot. Yeah,

1021
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.440
I love that to say, that's the reveal. Here's probably

1022
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:21.880
an animal or something. She picks up a boot and

1023
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.880
she's like that, dear's wearing boots now. And one thing

1024
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:30.239
worth mentioning this film is the birth of the trope

1025
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.920
that became really popular, whether you were making a silly

1026
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.719
horror movie or you were making fun of horror movies. Yeah,

1027
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:41.000
of a movie opening with teenagers doing something awful, yes,

1028
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.599
and then promising it to be a secret, which became

1029
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:44.239
very common.

1030
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.480
In one film, one of my favorite, there's so many

1031
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:49.079
bits in the original Scary Movie that they steal from

1032
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.239
my note you did, like, yeah. One of my favorites though,

1033
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.760
is the sun roof because he starts getting hit by birds,

1034
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.360
like there's things. They're hitting him as they're driving. Like,

1035
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:58.440
if you haven't seen Scary Movie in a while, it's

1036
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:02.400
absolutely where the ret was. So they find the boot.

1037
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.719
Then they find the body and that's when they start

1038
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:08.280
freaking out because it's Barry's car. He's clearly drunk and

1039
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.760
they're gonna know right away the car smells like alcohol,

1040
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:12.599
and Julie's like, you know, we got to call the cops.

1041
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:14.559
Berry He's like, we can't do it, Like we're gonna

1042
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.280
go down for this, like we killed somebody. So that's

1043
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.719
when they decide that they are going to dump the body.

1044
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:21.840
They're going to dump the body on the docks. They're

1045
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.800
never gonna speak of this again. So they go to

1046
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:25.480
the docks. They're getting ready to dump the body and

1047
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.480
they're arguing about who's gonna push it in. Finally Helen's like, god,

1048
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:30.159
damn it, I'll do it. So she bends down and

1049
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.800
that's when the guy comes back alive, grabs at her

1050
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:34.880
and grabs her crown before they push him in the water.

1051
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.159
So now he's got her crown from the pageant.

1052
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.440
Yes, and a great first scare yes from the film,

1053
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.840
other than the scare of hitting the hidden person.

1054
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:44.880
Yeah. So Barry decides to jump back in. He swims

1055
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.480
down to the bottom and he goes to get the

1056
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:48.679
crown from him. As he pulls it away from the guy,

1057
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:50.800
because the guy's grip is still on, his eyes come open.

1058
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.280
He looks at him, but Barry quickly resurfaces and that's

1059
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:55.400
when he's like, you know, hey, we're never talking about

1060
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:57.880
this again. We're taking this to our grave. Everybody's in

1061
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:59.920
agreement with it, except for Julie. And that's when he

1062
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:01.840
he fucking grabs her, puts her against the car, and

1063
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:04.079
he's like, no, no, tell me that you are agreeing

1064
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:06.480
me with me on this, and Julie says, okay, we'll

1065
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:07.320
never speak of this again.

1066
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.519
I wish she had been like, tell me, Daria called

1067
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:11.159
her Daria.

1068
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.280
That's when they go to leave the dock and the

1069
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.280
camera zooms in and we see the pendant that the

1070
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:18.679
guy was twirling earlier is on the dock.

1071
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:24.679
And that is the beginning of many mysteries and many hints,

1072
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.159
many red herring red he indeed.

1073
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.119
So a year later, Julie's in college, it's summer again,

1074
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:33.159
and we find out Julie is being driven back home

1075
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.199
by her roommate to Southport for the summer, and she's

1076
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:40.079
not thrilled about it because she is clearly just not

1077
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:41.760
looking in the best way. And her mom picks us

1078
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:43.480
up right away because she gets home to her mom

1079
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.639
and her mom's like, are you on drugs? Like, I

1080
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:47.400
just wanted to throw that out just to see your reaction.

1081
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.360
Yeah, she looks more grizzled than you should from college, baby, Yeah,

1082
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.360
just a lot, you know. I mean, who knows, maybe

1083
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.639
she's popping riddling like their chicklets. Yeah, but she definitely

1084
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.239
one of the things I really appreciated on this most

1085
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.960
recent viewing, Yeah, was you can see how much.

1086
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.679
The weight of that secret messes with all of them, but.

1087
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.400
Especially her, Like well, but you're right though, it shows

1088
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.320
how it weighs on all of them in different ways,

1089
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:17.760
because like Sarah Michelle Geller's character like leans harder into

1090
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:21.679
being super shiny and perky and bubbly as to where

1091
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:25.000
Jennifer Love Hewitt's character is definitely more like what you

1092
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:28.480
might expect. Yeah, her eyes have bags under them. Yeah,

1093
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:30.639
her hair is always kind of a mess. She doesn't

1094
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.519
really care about her appearance now. And she also hasn't

1095
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:35.920
been keeping in touch with any of them any well,

1096
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.320
or even her own mother. Yeah, because her mother seems,

1097
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:39.960
you know, excited to find out what's been going on.

1098
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:42.000
And something I heard on this you that never heard before.

1099
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.239
Did her dad die while she was away and she

1100
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:48.079
never came back That I don't recall, because she says,

1101
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.079
your dad would be turning over his grave if he

1102
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:50.719
could see you now.

1103
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.840
I think her father passed away a while ago.

1104
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.000
Yeah, So her mom is like, you know, you know,

1105
00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:59.400
I just worry about you, and you know, I'm glad

1106
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.199
you're home. And that's when Julie goes into a room,

1107
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.159
into her bedroom, and she sees that there's a letter

1108
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:05.079
on her desk that's written to her, and she's like,

1109
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:06.480
you know who sent this? And she's like, oh, it

1110
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.599
just came to the mail And that's when she opens

1111
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:10.880
it up to see a note written in black that says,

1112
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:14.280
I know what you did last summer? Who farted?

1113
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.880
I couldn't resist. If you ever heard a guest you've.

1114
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.559
Heard Nick Swarson's about about who Farted? No, he talks

1115
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:23.599
about it's in one of its It's one of his

1116
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:26.199
original stand up routines, which is I think it's called

1117
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:28.719
Seriously Who Farted? And he talks about how he wants

1118
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.199
to go to a sporting event where they have the

1119
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.159
T shirt gun and he's like like, go to the crowd,

1120
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.119
be like who wants a T shirt? And everybody's like ah,

1121
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:36.719
and he's like nope, and then just blows his frame out.

1122
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.079
But before he says he goes who farted? She's just

1123
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:42.480
making the crowd go, hey, guys, guys, don't go over there.

1124
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:44.519
He like, you said it farted, like it might be bad.

1125
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:48.000
Oh my god, that's funny. That original stand up, it's

1126
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.880
really good. So she gets the note and the next day,

1127
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.239
Julie goes to visit Shivers Store trying to get Helen's

1128
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.559
New York number from her sister Elsa. And one thing

1129
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:57.920
I forgot to mention in the original party of the

1130
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.840
Fourth of July party a year ago, she runs into

1131
00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:02.159
l Elsa, who was played by Bridget Wilson, and you

1132
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:03.920
can tell that her and her sister don't get along

1133
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:05.159
super well, so.

1134
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.679
You think yeah, just a little bit. Just there is

1135
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:11.480
a lot of tension between them that never lessens up. Well,

1136
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.000
I mean it does when one of them dies.

1137
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:13.920
Spoilers.

1138
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:18.000
Oh, I'm so sorry. This almost thirty year old film

1139
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:21.480
that's a horror slasher movie does have some people dying.

1140
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:22.599
It it does, it doesn't.

1141
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:24.000
Where's the button?

1142
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:25.639
Spoiler alert.

1143
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:29.320
So she goes to Shiver's store and she's like, you know, Elise,

1144
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.039
I need Helen's New York number. And she's like, Helen's

1145
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:33.280
New York number and she's like, yeah, you know, I

1146
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:35.159
need a contactor. She's like, well, Helen's not New York.

1147
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:36.960
And that's when we find out that Helen went to

1148
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:38.920
New York briefly, it didn't work out, and now she's

1149
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:39.880
back working at the store.

1150
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:45.000
Yes, and she's clearly not the girl she was. No,

1151
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:46.639
she's beaten down by life.

1152
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.679
And smoking cigarettes immensely.

1153
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:51.000
Well, which luckily, I mean at least she looked cool.

1154
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.360
She did look cool. So that's when Julie shows the

1155
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:55.880
note to Helen, and Helen's like, you know, well, who

1156
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:57.880
could this be? Who could know? And that's when they

1157
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:00.280
also are asking if Barry has seen it yet. So

1158
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.079
they go to visit Barry at his parents' house, revealing

1159
00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:04.840
that he and Helen have broken up. So over a

1160
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:07.000
year's time, he and Helen had broken up, and Barry

1161
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:08.960
does not believe it. He's like, you know, this is

1162
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.679
some bullshit, Like somebody's fucking with us. Wait a minute,

1163
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:14.199
maybe it's Max. Because one thing I forgot to mention

1164
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.159
too is when they initially hit the body, Max is

1165
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:19.280
actually driving down that same road and they have to

1166
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.239
go hide like one of like Barry's puking in the

1167
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.119
grass and Max sees that there's something going on.

1168
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:27.000
Yeah, he just suspects something, but he's he's not he's

1169
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.599
an outsider in the group, so he's used to being

1170
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:30.920
kind of pushed.

1171
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:33.320
When I pushed away. So that's when they decide that

1172
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.519
they're gonna go visit Max at his job, but Barry

1173
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.239
wastes no time. Finds Max at the at the dock

1174
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:39.320
and he's like, hey, can I talk to you for

1175
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:40.639
a second, and then just goes in the back and

1176
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:42.079
threatens him with a hook and he's like, you know,

1177
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:43.480
if you tell anybody, I'll fucking kill you.

1178
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.280
Yeah he works at this fishery, Yeah, and yeah, he

1179
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.320
pulls a hook, right off of a big block of ice,

1180
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.119
and Basis says, I will kill you if you ever

1181
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:51.880
talked to us again, and I mean it, yeah.

1182
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.880
And that Ryan Felippe anger fit that we can only.

1183
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:58.840
Talk about my god, No, like I wonder how his

1184
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.320
corneas we're doing after yelling that night.

1185
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:03.280
I've made that joke where it's like he just he

1186
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:05.519
lashes out this entire film to where it's like, all right,

1187
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.679
you know, I'll take a coke steps you, okay, No, no,

1188
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:09.239
tell us as.

1189
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:12.280
Good as the guy in disturbing behavior. You my god,

1190
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:13.559
you go to the problem with me?

1191
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:13.840
No?

1192
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:14.400
Why not?

1193
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.440
I said, no, Oh, disturbing behavior is so good.

1194
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:21.280
Hey, that might be good for a month.

1195
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.800
We're playing ooh that might be actually yeah, you right.

1196
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.840
So they leave the dock and as they're leaving the dock,

1197
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:29.760
they run into Ray, who is now also taken up

1198
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.800
as a fisherman at the dock too. So he's back

1199
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:34.079
in town as well, and he's working. He's got his

1200
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:36.960
own boat. And that's when we cut back to Max,

1201
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:38.880
who is in the back. He's preparing ice for the fish.

1202
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.079
He puts his hook on the ice, goes in starts

1203
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:43.079
dropping some crabs, in the water, comes back out and

1204
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.639
his hook's gone, and he doesn't see this, only the

1205
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:48.199
viewers do. And as he's leaning over this table, all

1206
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.800
of a sudden, a fisherman comes out, hooks him under

1207
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.960
the jaw, pulls him across the table, leaving a huge

1208
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:53.599
streak of blood.

1209
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:56.280
And for those who have never seen this film, which

1210
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.840
you should see it or have seen it, the killer

1211
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.119
is in a full body fisherman, well like a raincoat

1212
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:08.280
of fisherman, where yeah, that is very iconic. And and honestly,

1213
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.320
when it comes to that era of slasher movie, they

1214
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:15.880
did a pretty good job of having it be something original,

1215
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:19.159
something we wouldn't expect. Both the cloak, the fact that

1216
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.519
there's no face, but there's no mask, no mask, it's

1217
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:23.039
just kind of obscure.

1218
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:27.400
And the hook hook It sells it all everything, because.

1219
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:29.400
You know, otherwise we've got like scream, he's wearing a

1220
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:31.880
Halloween mask, he's got a knife, but we got the

1221
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.719
fishermen from I Know what you did last summer, or

1222
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:36.239
as I call him, I know what you did last summer.

1223
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:37.840
I'm like, oh god, I know he did less summers.

1224
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:39.079
In the back of the car, He's gonna kill you.

1225
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:41.840
God, oh God, watch out for die Hard.

1226
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:44.159
I hope they don't catch die Hard and shoot him.

1227
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:47.960
So that week got to Barry, who is going to

1228
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:50.239
the gym and he's going to work out, and he's

1229
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.400
getting ready to get dressed and leave, and hears from

1230
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.440
in the locker room. So he returns from the shower

1231
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:56.440
and he finds a polaroid of his car because keep

1232
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:58.280
in mind his car was used in the accident, and

1233
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.280
again on the back of it it says I know

1234
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.639
This photograph says I know written on the back, and

1235
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:06.360
so he goes back to his locker and he finds

1236
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.360
his jackets missing, which means it's car keys are missing.

1237
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:10.599
So he goes out to the front to the desk

1238
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.000
and he's like, hey, has anybody been in here? And

1239
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:13.440
the guy's like, now, just you and me. But then

1240
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:14.800
all of a sudden, we hear a car start. He

1241
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:16.960
races up front to see somebody's in his car stealing it.

1242
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:19.159
He runs after the car until the car gets to

1243
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:21.239
the end of the dock and then decides to stop,

1244
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:23.840
turns its headlights on and pursues right after him.

1245
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:27.920
Yeah, and this is one of the first big menacing.

1246
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:31.920
Chase sequences yeah. So he ends up getting cornered at

1247
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.280
him and he gets hit by the car as it

1248
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:35.639
drives forward, pushing him right through a building that ends

1249
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:38.000
up crashing, and that's when the figure gets out of

1250
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.880
the car and his rainslicker approaches him, shows off his hook.

1251
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:43.880
Barry screams, and then the scene cuts and we are

1252
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.519
now what happened. We're now at the hospital as Julia

1253
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.639
arrives along with Ray and Helen at the same time,

1254
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.440
and Barry tells them he couldn't see the face, and

1255
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:52.280
Julie's convinced that he was trying to kill him and

1256
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.079
they have to go to the police, and Barry is like, no, man,

1257
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:56.480
he wasn't trying to kill me. He's just trying to

1258
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:59.639
scare me. Yeah, And that's when Ray makes a joke

1259
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.519
about you, well, you know, it's just a fishing village.

1260
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:03.320
There shouldn't be too many slickers to figure out. And

1261
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:05.400
that's when Barry's like, well, you know, buddy, you have

1262
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:10.079
one that we've all seen too. Yeah, So that's when

1263
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.639
they start to question it's Ray. Barry questions Ray having one,

1264
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:14.880
and Julie tries to convince them to go to the police,

1265
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:16.960
but Barry still against it, so Julie says they should

1266
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.000
try to reach out to the people that knew David Egan.

1267
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.159
And David Egan is the guy that they hit with

1268
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.159
their car that his body was found later, the.

1269
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:26.559
Guy they murdered, the guy they murd merds, they murds.

1270
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:30.800
I'm the one who's supposed to be tired, not you.

1271
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:33.440
So they need to find out who knew David Egan,

1272
00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:36.159
and that's when Julian Helen go to find Egan's ken

1273
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:38.320
via the local records on the internet, and they find

1274
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:40.800
out that Egan was also unfortunately responsible for the death

1275
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:42.920
of his fiance. But they find out that he had

1276
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:44.920
a sister, Missy, who still lives in the area in

1277
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:45.400
the Sticks.

1278
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.559
So they drive out there and that's where we get

1279
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:53.400
to meet a very very like broken, sad and hand yes,

1280
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.960
and she kills it in this small role. She really

1281
00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:58.840
makes it matter a lot.

1282
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.199
So they're sneaking around her house and that's when Missy

1283
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.199
hus An Hayes catches them and they're like, you know, oh,

1284
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:04.800
well our car broke down, you know, we need to

1285
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.199
use a phone. So she invites them in and Julie

1286
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:08.960
this whole time is kind of playing with her, trying

1287
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:10.559
to get some details from her, and that's when Missy

1288
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:14.440
tells her about David. She tells her about Susie and basically,

1289
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.000
you can, like Hendrick said, like she's just astraw. There's

1290
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.119
trauma all throughout this film, like you played out well,

1291
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:19.360
and the.

1292
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:24.320
Way she walks, the way Anne Hash's character moves. It's

1293
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:28.760
also a stark reality because if you watch the film

1294
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.320
the way I think you're supposed to, you're supposed to

1295
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:34.960
be on the side of the teenagers to some extent,

1296
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:39.719
Like even with the killing of the fishermen, it wasn't

1297
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:43.960
on purpose. No, they were only being moderately reckless. Yeah,

1298
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.480
would you say that's a first statement because because Jennifer

1299
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:49.320
love Hewitt was the character driving right, No.

1300
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.039
Ray was driving for Freddy's driving and buries in the

1301
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:53.480
back right.

1302
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:55.199
Well. But I mean, so my point is the drunkest

1303
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:57.760
people are not driving driving no, no, so they were

1304
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:01.840
being modestly irresponsible. The person on the side of the

1305
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.320
road was wearing all black in the middle of the night,

1306
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:05.440
on the side of a highway.

1307
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:05.760
Yep.

1308
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:10.719
So you I think are supposed to feel like bad

1309
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:12.719
for them. Yeah, because it's like they're right. This would

1310
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.360
ruin the beginning of all of their lives, and they

1311
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:18.079
all have the cruel irony of a slasher movie. Their

1312
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.280
whole lives ahead of them them. So it is that

1313
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:25.840
hits you hard. But Anne Hash's character is that moment

1314
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:31.400
where you realize, like, it's not about these fucking prissy teenagers.

1315
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.119
They're not the only ones so so haunted by what

1316
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.440
they did. They caused real harm and real damage in

1317
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:42.280
real life. It's not a game. It's not pretend they

1318
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.320
really hurt somebody. Yeah, somebody very deeply, not just the

1319
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:48.320
person they killed, because there's also a reference, as you're

1320
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:50.880
gonna get to say. But Anne Hash's character even mentions like, oh,

1321
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:52.519
mom lives in a nursing home. She didn't take it

1322
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:53.000
well when you.

1323
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:56.719
Because Missy lives alone. Yeah, she's a giant house to

1324
00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:59.039
herself and you can tell, like and she even says

1325
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:00.000
she doesn't get many visits.

1326
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:02.880
Yeah, And that's my point is like it becomes clear

1327
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:06.159
that the reason she's a loner is because of this

1328
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:08.719
deep trauma that's hit her and her family.

1329
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:09.159
Yeah.

1330
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:12.960
And at the epicenter are those four good looking teenagers

1331
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.639
that we're all so excited to root for yep. But

1332
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.199
this is kind of a moment where the reality kind

1333
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:22.039
of sets in, uh that they're not the only ones traumatized,

1334
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:23.280
they're not the only ones suffering.

1335
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:26.320
Yeah. And Missy also tells them that one of David's

1336
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:28.519
friends named Billy Blue, did come to visit her to

1337
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.280
pay his respects a while back, but she only saw

1338
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:31.559
him the one time and that's the only name she

1339
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:34.000
knows him by. So they quickly leave because Julie's just

1340
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.199
overcome with the motion being in his house and they're

1341
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:38.320
sitting in their car smoking and talking, and that's when

1342
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:40.360
Missy comes up gives them a scare because she's like, hey,

1343
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:41.440
you forgot your cigarettes?

1344
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:43.639
Yeah, because she thinks they're waiting for triple.

1345
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:46.079
A triple a Yeah. So that's when they make their

1346
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.000
way back to town, and we see Helen and Julie

1347
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:52.920
kind of get into a little bit because Julie is

1348
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:54.840
she's just so distraught and Helen's like, you know, we

1349
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:56.280
just need to forget about this and move on and

1350
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:57.960
stuffing to worry about, and she's like, well, it's easy

1351
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.679
for you to say. So they up up dropping Helen

1352
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:02.639
off at her house. Helen goes inside to her house.

1353
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:04.280
And as she gets in her house, you know, she

1354
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:05.639
talks to her dad for a little bit, goes in

1355
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.280
the kitchen, gets a drink, and then the killer enters

1356
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:11.599
her house. How rude, How rude. Indeed, So we see

1357
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.480
the fishermen right in the doorway of her house.

1358
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.800
This is the beginning of us starting to understand the mystery.

1359
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.559
M Hm, the killer. It's not a vampire.

1360
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:24.679
It's not a vampire because he can enter without being invited,

1361
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:28.719
without being invited, this man vampire fishermen. Mmm.

1362
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:32.559
I like that. Well, I mean, I guess there's some

1363
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.519
good fishing at night. I mean, you could just dive in.

1364
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.280
You don't need to breathe. So there's something wrong with

1365
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:39.599
the dead.

1366
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:42.840
Fuck you, fuck with me.

1367
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.440
Fuck with me, Dave. If you want to just turn

1368
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:47.800
the show to the Ruppelstiltskin.

1369
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.079
God, if we ever do an episode on that show,

1370
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:50.559
I don't know.

1371
00:59:54.599 --> 01:00:05.360
Do you even? Movie will be right back, welcome back

1372
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:07.119
to do you even? Movie?

1373
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:13.079
So the killer is inside her house, so we see

1374
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.159
her making her way around the house. She goes towards

1375
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:16.719
the stairs. We see the fisherman's at the top of

1376
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:18.920
the stairs. She has no idea he's in the house

1377
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:20.679
and they kind of play this up beautifully with the

1378
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.719
suspense not Kayda, they totally do. Because her dad's watching TV.

1379
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:26.320
You kind of think her dad might get it a little.

1380
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:29.599
Bit, you know, like they constantly are misdirecting you. It's

1381
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.320
one of the things that makes the movie so effective.

1382
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:33.480
So now the killer's in her room, hiding in her closet.

1383
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:36.480
She goes into her room and that's when she's brushing

1384
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:39.079
her hair, and her sister Elsa spooks her and she's like,

1385
01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:41.440
my god, you know your hair. You're so pathetic. And

1386
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.639
she's like, hey, we have inventory tomorrow. I needs it

1387
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:46.360
at the store at ten and Helen's like, well, I'm

1388
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:48.760
part of the parade tomorrow for the fourth July Festival.

1389
01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:50.239
I have to be on the float, so I can't

1390
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:52.159
do it. And that's what she calls her pathetic again,

1391
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:54.880
and she leaves. So then Helen gets ready for bed,

1392
01:00:55.079 --> 01:00:57.039
she goes to sleep. The killer's still in the closet.

1393
01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:59.159
So the next morning we wake up and we see

1394
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:01.519
that Helen's hair has been cut through the night.

1395
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:04.239
Which kind of made me laugh because she like sits

1396
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:06.480
up freaking out. It's like a my hair's been cut

1397
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:08.480
into a much more modern style.

1398
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:12.239
And then on her bedroom mirror written in red soon.

1399
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.760
Which honestly is the best I recommend any time you're

1400
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:20.559
gonna write anything on anyone's door mirror window should be soon.

1401
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.400
That that is good. So she calls Julie, who races

1402
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:25.440
to her house, but on the drive, Julie hears something

1403
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:27.599
scratching around in her trunk, so she pulls off the

1404
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.559
side of the road, opening the trunk, and that's when

1405
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.880
we see the body of Max covered in crabs crawling

1406
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:36.360
around him out of him, and we mean literal crab,

1407
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.639
literal crab VD. So Max has crabs on him and

1408
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:42.280
he's dead in the trunk, and that's when she decides

1409
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:44.320
to just run from the car to Helen's house because

1410
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:44.960
she's close.

1411
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.559
And it's heinous. He's slimy, disgusting.

1412
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:49.679
So she finds Barry with Helen and they return to

1413
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.679
her car to find it empty now and that's when

1414
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:55.280
Julie freaks out, and you know, she's like, you know,

1415
01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:57.280
he's waiting for us. We don't know what's gonna happen next.

1416
01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:59.519
He's after us, and that's when we get the infamous

1417
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:00.559
scream to the sky.

1418
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:03.840
What are you waiting for Well, but I want to

1419
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:04.440
say something.

1420
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:05.679
Yeah, you made a good point.

1421
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:09.280
Yeah, I don't know about the scene with the dead

1422
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:13.360
body because it's and yeah, it could just be a

1423
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:18.920
plot hole. Yeah, but in the film, literally she opens

1424
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.960
up her trunk and it is full to the brim,

1425
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:26.599
like withy crabs ice his body, but it's slimy because

1426
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.760
you know he's from the water or whatever. And then

1427
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:32.199
when she opens it again, not only is he not there,

1428
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.440
not only are all the crabs not there, and and

1429
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:36.519
that would have been in the span of ten minutes. Yeah,

1430
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.519
but it's dry. I'm assuming it doesn't smell or else

1431
01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:42.000
her friends would be like, it does smell like a

1432
01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:45.360
seafood restaurant in here. Pardon me, wondered if maybe that

1433
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:46.719
was her guilt manifesting.

1434
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:49.199
It's a good point to make, honestly, because you.

1435
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:50.679
Even said, like, well, how would she know that so

1436
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:52.440
and so died? It's like, well, maybe she was just

1437
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:56.000
afraid of the threats that were being made to him.

1438
01:02:56.559 --> 01:03:01.559
Because Ryan Felipe's character, uh Barry Barry is a real

1439
01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:04.000
wild card. He scares the ship out of her, and

1440
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:07.519
she believes he would kill to protect his reputation, So

1441
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.880
part of me wonders if and and the fact that

1442
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:14.159
she saw him in Barry's coat, that all makes me

1443
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.159
think that maybe she had this like subconscious fear that

1444
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.199
Barry was gonna start killing people. And Barry had beat

1445
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.159
the crap out of that guy before, he had beat

1446
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:23.960
him up at the in the first fucking scene of

1447
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:25.239
the movie, he beats up on him.

1448
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:27.840
It's it's a really good point. The only the only

1449
01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:30.039
issue I have with it is the scratching in the

1450
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:31.519
back well.

1451
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.039
But I mean, if you get if you canna hallucinate

1452
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:37.960
a dead look, bro, you can. You may be able

1453
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:41.079
to see a hole full coat. You're not gonna hallucinate

1454
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:44.800
his sound, especially not a little scritchy scratch, scritchgy scratch,

1455
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.039
which was a cool callback to the hook to Hook.

1456
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:49.360
Yeah, I did notice that. Yeah. So they returned to

1457
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:51.840
Helen's house when they find Ray arriving, who gets pushed

1458
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.000
by Barry and he's convinced it's Ray like he And

1459
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:55.760
when I say pushed, he gets fucking punched out.

1460
01:03:55.960 --> 01:04:01.000
Yeah, he he socks him, and it's it's so aggressive

1461
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:04.960
and out of nowhere. It's hero It's pretty funny. And

1462
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:07.840
that Freddy Prinz has like a foot on him, so

1463
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:09.679
he like gets he has to jump up to like

1464
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:11.400
just clean his clock.

1465
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:14.119
Absolutely, So Julie tells them that they have to stick together,

1466
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:15.840
and they don't. They can't be against each other now

1467
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.199
because that's what he wants. And that's when she's convinced

1468
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:20.480
that they got to find this Billy Blue guy. So

1469
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.599
they go to check the yearbook that Missy graduated from,

1470
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:24.719
because he talks about the years she graduated, and that's

1471
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:26.679
when Julie and Helen discussed showing the book to Missy

1472
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:28.800
to see if she can point out somebody to point

1473
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:30.960
out who Billy Blue is, and Helen offers to go

1474
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:33.519
with Julie, but Julie tells her no, she needs to

1475
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:35.639
stay the parade because he may show up at the parade.

1476
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:37.559
And I love Helen's response, He's like, I don't want

1477
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:42.519
him to show up. So that's when they're convinced that,

1478
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:44.719
you know, that's what they gotta do. Ray of course,

1479
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:46.519
is like, hey, what if we just leave town and

1480
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:47.480
never speak of this again?

1481
01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:48.760
That would have been my move.

1482
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:50.960
Yeah, what if we just leave? And that's when Julie's like,

1483
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:53.239
you know, we I've tried running. I'm tired of doing it.

1484
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:54.880
We just have to face this head on. So now

1485
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:56.719
we cut the Fourth of July parade as we see

1486
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:58.840
Helen on top of the float moving through the town,

1487
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:00.760
but also Barry a seat at the front of the

1488
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:02.559
float as well, kind of keep and watch for her.

1489
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:04.599
And she sees a guy in the crowd that looks

1490
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:07.039
exactly like the killer, so Barry runs off after him,

1491
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.840
and that's when he ends up tackling a brittle old

1492
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:10.519
man on the dock.

1493
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:13.039
Well, I mean they are, for the record, the only

1494
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.199
type of old man that hangs out on docks are brittle.

1495
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:15.519
Brittle.

1496
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:18.039
Yeah, it's actually a federal law. It's osha.

1497
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:19.960
I just feeled every time I watch this. I feel

1498
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:21.920
bad for that guy because it looks like he's having

1499
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:27.920
a heart attack, Like, no, it's really sad. So he

1500
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.159
tackles the guy it's clearly not him, and that's when

1501
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.639
Julie returns to Missy's house. She finds Missy out back

1502
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:36.360
skinning animals because that's what Missy does, and she's gotten

1503
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:38.159
fish at this point, and back on the float, we

1504
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:39.960
go back to Helen, who catches side of the fisherman

1505
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:42.159
who is now on one of the balconies as she passes,

1506
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:44.320
and he just gives her a shiny hey, here's my

1507
01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:45.599
hook as she goes by.

1508
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:49.239
It's kind of nice, you know, to be noticed, my godness.

1509
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:52.920
So that's when Missy is out back with Julie and

1510
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:55.199
Julie explains what happened last year, that it was in

1511
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.840
an accident, and Missy says that she knows that, you know,

1512
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:00.679
David wasn't murdered, he committed suicide acts. And that's when

1513
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.280
she brings up a note that she got and it's

1514
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.400
the same note that Julie has, matching the handwriting, so

1515
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:07.320
she's like, this isn't a suicide note, this is a

1516
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:11.400
death threat. So David is now supposedly been killed by somebody,

1517
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:13.760
and now they don't think that they killed David.

1518
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:17.239
Actually, but that means who did they?

1519
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:18.039
Who could it be?

1520
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:22.159
Could it be any number of red herring.

1521
01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:25.599
So that's when Julie goes to leave back to town,

1522
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:27.719
revealing that she note that she thinks, you know that

1523
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:30.239
it's not a suicide note. Missy is not convinced, and

1524
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:32.760
Julie talks about, you know, well, I saw a tattoo

1525
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:34.360
that said Susie and she's like, well, my brother didn't

1526
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:37.079
have a tattoo. Even more putting forth that it is

1527
01:06:37.159 --> 01:06:37.800
not David.

1528
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:40.960
Than Kiss, but the identity is unknown of who they

1529
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:42.800
believe they may have killed her.

1530
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:44.559
So now it's later that night. We cut to the

1531
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:46.840
beauty pageant where Helen sits on the stage. Because she

1532
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:49.079
was the winner last year, she is now as the

1533
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:51.400
watcher on the program, and Barry watches from the balcony,

1534
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:53.159
just like the beginning with all three of them. The

1535
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:55.559
pageant gets underway and Helen watches in horror as the

1536
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:57.760
first person goes up, but then looks up to see

1537
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.840
that Barry has the fisherman standing behind him.

1538
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:03.280
She watched in horror as the person who goes up

1539
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:05.960
to performance is clearly like thirty five years old.

1540
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:08.519
Yeah, you did point that out, so I'm not wrong, No,

1541
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:11.280
you're not. She starts freaking out, and you know, she

1542
01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:13.320
runs into the crowd. The crowd's trying to stop her,

1543
01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:14.760
you know, they're trying to make sure that she's okay.

1544
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:16.880
A cop comes in to intervene. But while this is happening,

1545
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.199
we see Barry just getting killed with this hook.

1546
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:20.840
Yeah, he's getting the fuck killed out of here.

1547
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:22.920
He is stabbed at death, and that's when the offer

1548
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:24.119
is like, all right, well we'll go up and check.

1549
01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:25.840
So he takes Helen up, tells her to hold back,

1550
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.760
and he goes up there and they don't find anything

1551
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:29.920
because he's clearly not looking hard enough because as they

1552
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:31.639
go to leave, blood is dripping off one of the

1553
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:32.760
crates that's up on the balcony.

1554
01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:38.239
Hey, cops are never incompetent, not never, not irl, not

1555
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:38.920
in movies.

1556
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:42.760
That's why we're bad cops. So the officer offers to

1557
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.239
take Helen home, as she's distraught and no one believes her.

1558
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.519
Back at her house, Julie searches for more information on

1559
01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:49.400
David Egan, going to the same website she went to

1560
01:07:49.559 --> 01:07:51.920
last time. Back on the cop car, the officer questions

1561
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.719
Helen about the fisherman and you know, is he the

1562
01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:55.760
one that is he us a hook to cut your hair?

1563
01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:57.719
And she's like, no, he us scissors, you asshole. Like

1564
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.400
they're bantering back and forth and arguing for a bit,

1565
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:02.679
and I got to say, on this watch the cops

1566
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:03.880
really not being a dick.

1567
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:09.639
Well and and for the record, these kids are most

1568
01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:14.880
of them are just the most snotty spoiled, you know.

1569
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:16.560
Well the fun when they go to see Barry, when

1570
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:18.159
they reconnect with him, he's in a mansion on the

1571
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:18.720
on the water.

1572
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.920
Oh yeah, well that's why. But that's why Barry's so intense.

1573
01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:25.920
Barry has everything to lose as to where like the

1574
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:29.439
other three have a lot of potential for their lives.

1575
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:31.039
You know, one wants to be a beauty queen, one

1576
01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:33.000
wants to go to college and have some big job

1577
01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:36.359
and blah blah blah blah blah. He's already there. Barry

1578
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:40.199
is wealthy, he's set for life. And the one thing

1579
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:44.840
he doesn't need is this kindshit, this kind of thing,

1580
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.920
and and and by the way, speaking of that scene

1581
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:51.920
where he is at the mansion, it's worth pointing out

1582
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:56.119
I don't think that Barrys. And you notice how how

1583
01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.039
distant he is with his mother. I don't think that

1584
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:01.640
that's just because he's a rich asshole. I think that's

1585
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:06.600
because of what he the person he became after the murder. Yeah,

1586
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:09.119
I really do, because all of them.

1587
01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:12.239
Are off well, I think it's worth pointing out too

1588
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:14.279
that you I mean, you just said it, like, we

1589
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.399
see his mom and we see Julie's mom, We don't

1590
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:18.960
see anybody else except for Helen's dad, which we don't

1591
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:19.439
even talk to.

1592
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:20.359
Yeah, that's true.

1593
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:21.800
So, I mean we really don't see much of the

1594
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:24.720
parental life except for hell except for Julie being like

1595
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:26.520
Julie's mom being like, you know, you never come around

1596
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:28.439
anymore and been worried about you. We don't really talk

1597
01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:29.319
to any of the other parents.

1598
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:31.920
Yeah, it's true. It, which is also a trope of

1599
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:35.560
a lot of these uh these teen screams slasher movies,

1600
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:36.239
is less parents.

1601
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:39.119
And I also feel like there was mentioned that Helen's

1602
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.560
mom ran off. That does sound no, it does sound right, Yeah,

1603
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:45.640
So I mean it's definitely the home might explained where

1604
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:47.840
our older sister is the queen bitch. Yeah, that's like

1605
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:50.239
daddy put me in charge of the store. Yeap, that

1606
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:53.680
would totally make sense. So that is when they decide

1607
01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:56.279
that they have to take a detour around the down

1608
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:58.159
an alley because as the cops driving through the street,

1609
01:09:58.199 --> 01:09:59.760
one of the streets are blocked off. So he's like, okay,

1610
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:01.720
we got get on this alley and they see a

1611
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:03.960
guy struggling with this vehicle at the end of the alley,

1612
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:06.680
and he just happens the in fisherman gear, but Helen

1613
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:08.399
doesn't see this. The cop gets out, he's like, I'll

1614
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:10.119
be right back, and that's when Helen sees that it's

1615
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:12.560
the killer too late. The cop is stabbed right in

1616
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:14.720
the gut right before her, and Helen's freaking out now

1617
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:16.119
because she's locking the back of this cop car.

1618
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:22.199
And another reason why it's so such a great killer design. Anybody,

1619
01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:25.680
anybody in that town is going to have a slicker. Yeah, anybody.

1620
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:27.560
So a cop seeing the guy in slicker, he's gonna

1621
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:28.800
be like, oh yeah, yeah, I'll go help this guy.

1622
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:30.239
Yeah. He'll be like, oh yeah, well I didn't. I

1623
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:32.079
mean like this before smartphones is like, I didn't listen

1624
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:33.840
to the radio. It's probably gonna rain. Yeah, rains all

1625
01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:35.000
the time when you live on the ocean.

1626
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:36.720
So she is frantically trying to get out of the

1627
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:39.039
cop car. She finally kicks the window out, climbs through it,

1628
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:41.199
and the killer is right in pursuit behind her back.

1629
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:45.359
Julie finds out that Susie's fiancea or Susie David's fiance

1630
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:49.159
is survived by her father. Benjamin willis a local fisherman

1631
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:50.600
in Southport.

1632
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:55.079
Which is so questionable because how many people are fishermen

1633
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:55.680
in this town?

1634
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:56.399
Crazy?

1635
01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:58.800
No, more than nearly all of them.

1636
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.000
So hell A racist to Shiver's store as she's running

1637
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:03.800
through town and she gets help from Elsa, which this

1638
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:05.479
was a part that you and I talked about where

1639
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:07.560
it's just like, why is it that so many people

1640
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:10.039
in horror films when people are panicking?

1641
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.760
Oh yeah, yeah, in horror movies, it's like the moment

1642
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:16.319
you're pounding at a door, please open up, somebody's gonna

1643
01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.199
kill me, all of a sudden, you like forget how

1644
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.840
to understand human emotions or that there's an urgency. Yeah,

1645
01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:23.600
you just like go like, oh, just let me get

1646
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:25.359
my key and open up this fanto.

1647
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:27.399
It's like I made the joke. It's like, is this

1648
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:29.600
a prank? We've been fourth of July to death tonight?

1649
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:30.720
That killed me?

1650
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:32.880
I like how You're like, You're like, I got a

1651
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:33.239
good one.

1652
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:35.479
I'm gonna remember for the show. Yep, dick, yep.

1653
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:40.039
So for so Elsa Finally, Elsa finally lets her in

1654
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:42.039
and she's like, you know, lock the back door, lock

1655
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:44.159
the front door, like somebody something's going on, And she's like,

1656
01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:45.920
we know what's going on. She's like, just listen to me,

1657
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.000
damn it, go do this. So Elsa immediately goes to

1658
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:52.039
the back door, locks it and then is ambushed by

1659
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:54.680
the killer, who slices her right across the throat and

1660
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:56.760
we see blood splatter across the window. But she gets

1661
01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:59.399
a scream out as Helen is trying to call the police.

1662
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:01.920
And then we see him in the second he's carrying

1663
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.279
her with the hook dragged rip page. Yes, oh he's

1664
01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:05.960
got Dragg's right.

1665
01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:08.720
Oh yeah, So he's carrying her across the store and

1666
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.039
that By this point, Helen's like, okay, something's not right.

1667
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:13.279
So she calls to Elsa, no answer, and this is

1668
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.079
a beautiful sequence of tension and terror because we are

1669
01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:20.119
in this department store that is mostly blocked out, like

1670
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:22.319
I mean, it's dimmed throughout. There's some light music playing

1671
01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:23.560
and it's just silent.

1672
01:12:24.039 --> 01:12:25.159
Yeah, it's super creepy.

1673
01:12:25.279 --> 01:12:27.600
So she starts wandering around and that's when she goes

1674
01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:30.239
towards the front and these mannequins are covered in plastic,

1675
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.000
and that's when she realizes one of the mannequins is

1676
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:34.680
actually the fisherman who lunches out at her. So Helen

1677
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:37.680
starts running through the Shiver's department store, finds a dumb waiter,

1678
01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:40.640
and goes to the second floor, right as the fisherman

1679
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:43.199
also reaches the second floor, So that's when she decides

1680
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:44.680
that she's just going to jump out the window into

1681
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:46.399
a trash pile. So now she's outside.

1682
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:50.199
Uh, you worked a retail quite a bit. Yeah. How

1683
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:51.479
creepy is it when it's just.

1684
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:53.439
You, very very creepy?

1685
01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:53.760
Yeah?

1686
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:54.760
I know that.

1687
01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:58.479
Nowadays it's become called liminal spaces. Yeah, the idea you're

1688
01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:01.239
somewhere where lots of people are normal, but lots of

1689
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:02.279
people aren't there right now.

1690
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:03.840
Did I ever tell you the story about when I

1691
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.039
was taking trash out at one of the malls I

1692
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:07.479
worked when I was doing Fye.

1693
01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:11.239
I don't think so, so I believe it was.

1694
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:12.640
Yeah, So it would have been. It would have been

1695
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.840
kim Wood Mall in Cincinnati, and I was taking the

1696
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:19.119
trash out one night and I had to go down

1697
01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:21.880
basically two long corridors because our store was in the

1698
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:23.960
center and the trash was like on the other side

1699
01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:26.760
by one of the exits, and I had to go

1700
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.520
down these two corridors and I get outside and there

1701
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:33.560
are three kids standing by this dumpster beating the shit

1702
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:34.640
out of a homeless guy.

1703
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:39.560
Jesus Christ, and I immediately.

1704
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:41.239
Go back inside. I called the police, and these kids

1705
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:43.199
are banging on the door because they saw me. They're

1706
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:45.960
banging on the door because they're like, because you're I'm

1707
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:48.760
a snitch, I'm a witness and everything. Yeah. Well, then

1708
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:50.920
I start making my way back down the corridor. They're

1709
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:53.520
banging on every single fucking exit door as I go

1710
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:56.680
down this corridor, like almost tracking me back to this building.

1711
01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.239
So finally I got to the mall security. I called

1712
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:01.920
him and he he stood around the store until I

1713
01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:04.199
locked up and walked outside. Right as I'm leaving the

1714
01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:06.119
parking lot, I see the kids come around the building

1715
01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:07.199
and I'm fucking bolting.

1716
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:08.279
Sure.

1717
01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:11.960
It was scary, Like I I completely it was. It

1718
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:14.399
was one of those situations where I had a lot

1719
01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:16.520
of weird experiences of that mall. That was the one

1720
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:18.399
that I literally feared for my life at one point.

1721
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:22.800
Kenwood is extremely close to Cincinnati. It's basically a Cincinnati. Yeah.

1722
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:26.079
For those who don't know Ohio, Cincinnati is one of

1723
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:30.680
the largest cities in the state, and therefore you get

1724
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:35.319
all of the funny story though, Oh you got a

1725
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:38.359
hand job. But the three kids ended up getting arrested

1726
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:40.920
that night because they were also found carrying if I

1727
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:45.880
remember correctly, three stilettos, and I think one I'm had

1728
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:46.159
a gun.

1729
01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:46.840
I'm not mistaken.

1730
01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:50.439
Look, I'm not trying to be like a hippie about it,

1731
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:52.000
but like, if they want to wear high heels, I

1732
01:14:52.039 --> 01:14:54.640
don't see what the big deal is. You know, that's

1733
01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:55.239
their lives.

1734
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:57.039
They had three knives and a gun, that's all I know.

1735
01:14:57.640 --> 01:14:59.479
Oh, you could have taken them. That could have taken

1736
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:03.000
them if you hadn't lost your yellow belt.

1737
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:06.119
If I hadn't. Ah, man, you're right, God damn yellow belt.

1738
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:08.840
You could have literally taken your yellow belt out but shaw,

1739
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:11.239
and they would have all been like, man, let's get

1740
01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:11.640
out of here.

1741
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:14.359
I do remember my manager coming in the next morning

1742
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:15.560
and he's like, hey, why do you stick out trash

1743
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:18.039
that night? And I was like, go talk to Ralph,

1744
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.880
the security guard, and then Ralph was like, it has

1745
01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:29.560
a death kid, You're all gonna die. So so Helen's

1746
01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:31.560
outside now. And this is about the time that Julia

1747
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.000
arrives back at the location where the pageant is. It's

1748
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.680
completely empty. Everybody's gone home, and so she makes her

1749
01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:39.520
way outside just as Helen is back outside and she

1750
01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:42.079
is not. She has no idea where to go. Suddenly,

1751
01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:44.359
fireworks start going off, so she follows the fireworks. She

1752
01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:46.800
sees the parade is going again. She's going right towards

1753
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:49.560
the parade, and right as she turns, the fisherman grabs her,

1754
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:51.399
pulls her to the side, while these fireworks in the

1755
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:54.239
parade are calling. She gets stabbed in like in all

1756
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:55.960
the audience of the fireworks in the parade like. It

1757
01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:58.920
is a really intense sequence that I cannot recommend enough.

1758
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:00.600
But a great sequence and probably probably one of the

1759
01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:02.840
reasons you picked it as a summer Yeah, a summer

1760
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:05.520
film because of the direct reference to the fourth of July.

1761
01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:09.079
Yep, do you Even? Movie?

1762
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:20.319
Will be right back, welcome back to do You Even? Movie?

1763
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.000
So that is when we lose Helen unfortunately, and Julie

1764
01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:29.039
returns to town, making her way to the docks. She's

1765
01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:30.760
searching for Ray and she finds him on his boat

1766
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:32.520
and she tells him that she believes the killer is

1767
01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:35.680
ben Willis, who killed Egan. Before they hit him, they

1768
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:38.199
hit ben Amine and Ray invites Julie on the boat

1769
01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:40.000
so they can discuss it. And that's when Julie sees

1770
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.000
the name of his boat is Billy Blue.

1771
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:46.800
And I want to say, sincerely, what a great twist? Yeah,

1772
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:54.479
because let me finish no, No, because to find out

1773
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:57.359
not only is the person you wronged not the person

1774
01:16:57.439 --> 01:16:59.800
you thought, but the person you wronged was a fucking

1775
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:04.039
murderer themselves. Yeah, that's such a great twist for it

1776
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:05.760
to be like, oh, no, it was this guy who

1777
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:09.079
just probably murdered somebody, right, I mean definitely, Yeah, murdered

1778
01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:11.000
somebody right before you encountered him.

1779
01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:11.680
And that's why good.

1780
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:14.600
But then that also makes sense. Why was he all

1781
01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:16.720
in black? Why was he walking on the highway? Why

1782
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:18.920
was he you know, why was it so secretive? And

1783
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:20.319
why did he never go to the police.

1784
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:20.560
Yeah?

1785
01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:24.279
Well, but what I always wondered is like he must

1786
01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:27.199
have just been festive though he was, like he was like,

1787
01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:31.840
if I wait, if I send them I know what

1788
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:33.560
you did last summer in the winter, they're gonna think

1789
01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:38.279
it was the summer before. So I'm gonna wait, you

1790
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:42.760
gotta minimum the following summer. There we go, the only way,

1791
01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:44.680
only way to do it, because it's like I can't

1792
01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:49.399
just say I know what you did last season doesn't carry.

1793
01:17:49.880 --> 01:17:51.800
He's just like sitting there work shopping at all night,

1794
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:53.840
like with a with a flashlight under his blanket.

1795
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:56.439
The one thing I will say thinking about the about

1796
01:17:56.439 --> 01:17:58.359
the twist in regards to it, is like, yeah, he

1797
01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:00.199
killed Egan and then got killed but then got hit

1798
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.439
by that car. It makes me think of spoiler alert

1799
01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:05.520
if you haven't seen the film Unknown with Liam Neeson,

1800
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:08.359
spoiler alert. It makes me think of how weak that

1801
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.000
twist was in that film where it was revealed of

1802
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:12.520
what he was, and I was just like, well, the

1803
01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:14.920
company just would have fucking killed him then, yeah, there

1804
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:17.439
would have been none of him solving who he is.

1805
01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:19.960
I watched that at the dan Berry Dollar Cinema.

1806
01:18:20.079 --> 01:18:21.800
Oh Dan Berry, I miss Dan Barry.

1807
01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:22.720
I miss you, Dan Barry.

1808
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:25.560
So by this point now Julie is freaking out. She's like,

1809
01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:27.760
oh my god, you're the killer. So she flees and

1810
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.000
she's running across the dock, Rays chasing after her, and

1811
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:32.199
that's when Ray is punched out by a fisherman and

1812
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:33.880
he's like, get on the boat, child, like you know,

1813
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:36.640
I'll take care of you. So he punches ray out

1814
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:38.800
and Julie gets on the boat and she's entering the

1815
01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:42.000
loft of Blow and that's when she sees a hat

1816
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:45.239
like the killer has. She makes her way into the

1817
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:47.359
room and that's when she sees a shrine of news

1818
01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:51.720
paper clippings, both about Susie's death. She sees pictures of

1819
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:54.359
her and her friends all throughout this movie that we've

1820
01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:57.239
seen scenes of, and that's when she puts it together

1821
01:18:57.479 --> 01:19:00.359
that he is Ben Willis, and Ben will Is in

1822
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:02.760
fact the killer in I Know what you did last summer.

1823
01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:06.239
That's a cliche. We need to bring back the shrine.

1824
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:06.800
The shrine.

1825
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:12.640
Yeah, shrines were everywhere in everything. Yeah, so I got

1826
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:15.600
to bring back the shrine. Even American Nightmare, American Nightmare

1827
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.159
had a shrine. You're not wrong, So American Nightmare, which

1828
01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:20.680
was if I'm.

1829
01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:22.479
Wrong, American Nightmare also has a shot at him at

1830
01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:24.319
the coffee shop that it's like, how did he get that?

1831
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:25.680
You mean?

1832
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:25.840
She?

1833
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:26.279
Oh?

1834
01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:30.760
She, Yeah, you're right. Never mind, I'm quitting the show.

1835
01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:35.119
Well without there's a lot about the coffee shop that's

1836
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:37.239
left unanswered in an American Nightmare.

1837
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:39.479
Yeah, yeah, you're right, because I just remembered who Yeah,

1838
01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:42.800
let's get back to the we'll talk about American Nightmare, get.

1839
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:44.000
Back to spoiling a different movie.

1840
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:47.800
Yeah, So that's when you know, she tries to escape him,

1841
01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:49.880
and Ben not giving away his hand yet, he's like,

1842
01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:52.119
you know, oh, you know, are you okay? Like, you know,

1843
01:19:52.159 --> 01:19:55.800
it's fourth of July. Kids should be out having fun, drinking, partying,

1844
01:19:56.279 --> 01:20:00.560
running over people, getting away with murder. And that's when

1845
01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:03.640
she is completely you know, of the understanding that that

1846
01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:05.880
is who it is and he is not hiding any point.

1847
01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:08.119
So that's when he also reveals his hook and Julie

1848
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:10.680
goes off running, realizing that the boat has now left

1849
01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:12.119
the dock. So they're not at the dock anymore.

1850
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:13.560
Yeah, No, they're at sea.

1851
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:15.800
Yeah. So Ray comes to and he gets in a

1852
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:18.560
small boat races off towards them. Julie, trying to arm herself,

1853
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:20.680
gets a flare, but right as she grabs the flare,

1854
01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:23.039
Ben speeds the boat up, knocking her to the ground.

1855
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:24.760
The flare goes into the water, so now she is

1856
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:27.680
unarmed and he's watching her, of course from the deck,

1857
01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:29.439
because I love that scene where she looks up and

1858
01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:30.560
he's just like, I fucking got you.

1859
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.000
Yeah, no, no, this is such a great finale.

1860
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:33.359
Yes.

1861
01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:35.680
So, Ray, catching up to the boat, climbs under the

1862
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:37.720
boat and he starts facing off with Ben and his

1863
01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:40.239
hook right on, and Julie makes her way below deck

1864
01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:43.000
is rased fighting off Ben. Julie emerges from the bottom

1865
01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:44.840
right as Ben is in front of her, and he

1866
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.560
knocks Ray into the water. She goes back down as

1867
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:49.760
Ben makes his way down and Julie quickly hides in

1868
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:51.640
the ice box of the boat and that's where she

1869
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:56.119
discovers the bodies of Helen and Barry disturbingly.

1870
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:58.399
In just hundreds of pounds of ice ice like.

1871
01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:00.560
She goes to move one thing and Helen's body comes out.

1872
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:02.279
She gets freaked out, goes back and she puts her

1873
01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:05.439
hands on Barry's cold face. And Ray is next scene

1874
01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:07.439
in the water. He's grabbing at the net and begins

1875
01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:09.960
to climb the mass back onto the ship. Julie climbs

1876
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:11.880
out of the ice box right up to Ben, who

1877
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:13.840
is quickly knocked to the ground by Ray with the hook.

1878
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:16.479
He swings a rope with a hook on it, which

1879
01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:19.600
knocks him out, and that's when Ben's hand gets hooked

1880
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:22.640
onto the rope. Ray activates it. Ben gets pulled up

1881
01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:24.479
and his hand gets fucking set.

1882
01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:26.520
Gets shot up to the top of the mast of

1883
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:30.199
the boat, probably a good eighteen feet yep. And then

1884
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:31.840
right when he hits the top, it just takes his

1885
01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:33.680
hand right off with the hook still on it. Which,

1886
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:37.039
by the way, if you've ever hung out with grizzled

1887
01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:41.399
sea workers, yeah, I have one time. That's how they

1888
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:43.479
describe how quick you lose a hand on a boat,

1889
01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:45.479
I can imagine. And then all of a sudden, a

1890
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:47.520
rope's moving quick and your hand's gone.

1891
01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:52.399
So his hand is severed. Ray joins Julie, and that

1892
01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:54.960
is when we see that Ben is also thrown into

1893
01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:58.239
the water. They get stopped by the police. Ray explains

1894
01:21:58.279 --> 01:22:00.600
he visited Missy posing as a friend out of his guilt,

1895
01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:03.079
and the police end up going to pull up the net,

1896
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:05.079
revealing that Ben's severed hand is in it, but no

1897
01:22:05.239 --> 01:22:07.960
body is there, so his hand's still clutching the hook,

1898
01:22:07.960 --> 01:22:09.279
and that's when the cops like, oh, I don't worry,

1899
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:12.000
the body'll turn up sooner or later. Now it's one

1900
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:14.760
year later. Julie's in college in Boston, getting ready to

1901
01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:16.640
take a shower as she's talking to Ray on the phone.

1902
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:18.680
Her friend tells her that she has mail, so she

1903
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:21.279
exits the shower room, goes out to find an envelope

1904
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:24.560
written exactly like Ben's handwriting from the original note, and

1905
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:26.479
she opens it up to find a party invitation for

1906
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:29.600
a pool party. She's calm, everything's good now. She goes

1907
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:32.279
back into the shower room. It's completely steamed over and

1908
01:22:32.359 --> 01:22:35.319
she approaches one of the doors that's written I Still

1909
01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:37.960
Know on it. She looks around, sees no one, and

1910
01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.399
then suddenly hears a crash as the killer crashes through

1911
01:22:40.439 --> 01:22:43.279
the glass. Ending nineteen ninety seven's I know what you

1912
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:44.039
did last summer?

1913
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:49.079
And what an ending? I really do love. I need

1914
01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:49.720
to read the book.

1915
01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:51.079
Oh, it's the good. Book's good.

1916
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:53.600
I'm curious how much of the book is in the movie.

1917
01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:56.079
Not very much. There's not a single death except for

1918
01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:56.920
the your initial.

1919
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:58.800
Well that doesn't matter. The boat is the ending on

1920
01:22:58.840 --> 01:22:59.800
a boat? No? Oh?

1921
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:01.920
No, wow, you want me to spoil the book.

1922
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:05.640
Well, it's only been like sixty seven years or something.

1923
01:23:05.760 --> 01:23:06.760
Yeah, Barry is the killer?

1924
01:23:07.159 --> 01:23:07.880
Oh really?

1925
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:10.560
Barry turns out to be related to who they hit,

1926
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:13.159
and he goes to strangle Julie that's when Ray shows up.

1927
01:23:13.680 --> 01:23:16.159
I think he either kills Barry or knocks him out.

1928
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:16.960
I think he knocks him out.

1929
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:19.960
That is a hell of a twist. It's a really

1930
01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:20.640
strong twist.

1931
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:22.560
So would you like to know what the budget of

1932
01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:24.199
the film was? Where'd you like to guess? Uh?

1933
01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:30.399
No, I think I know. Okay, it's under twenty yep

1934
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:33.000
because back then that was the way they did things, correct.

1935
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:38.199
Uh, Fifteen seventeen million dollars is the budget. Okay, opening

1936
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:41.560
weekend for US and Canada, it makes fifteen million dollars.

1937
01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:45.039
Released on October nineteenth of nineteen ninety seven, box office

1938
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:47.880
totaling one hundred and twenty five point three million dollars.

1939
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:52.560
Now I find that interesting, okay, because I looked up

1940
01:23:52.680 --> 01:23:56.720
Screw was curious and Screams budget is reported at fourteen

1941
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.640
to fifteen million yep, Which it makes sense. They didn't

1942
01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:01.000
know what a big hit it was gonna be. They

1943
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:03.680
didn't know how popular this concept was. Yeah, but their

1944
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:05.279
box office was one seventy three.

1945
01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:10.439
Damn, that's fifty ish o almost fifty lower than this. Yeah, damn,

1946
01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:13.399
that's still gonna be higher higher. Yeah, but that's still

1947
01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:16.199
a good money maker. No, they're both huge, huge, huge success. Yeah,

1948
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:18.319
I just was curious. That's interesting what they put in. Yeah,

1949
01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:20.119
speaking of screen real quick, just off topic, did you

1950
01:24:20.479 --> 01:24:22.720
did you know that Skeet Alric almost gave away the

1951
01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:24.840
twist of the movie when he was doing pr for it,

1952
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:27.840
right like right when he got cast. No, so he's

1953
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.640
doing I heard this on Michael Rosenbaum's podcast. He was

1954
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:33.000
talking to him and Skeet was doing pr for something.

1955
01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:34.640
It wasn't screen, but they were like, oh, you know what,

1956
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:36.119
what new projects do you have coming up. He's like, Oh,

1957
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:38.000
I'm getting ready play a serial killer in this new movie.

1958
01:24:38.119 --> 01:24:39.000
Oh my god.

1959
01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:42.399
Then he immediately calls his agent He's like, I did

1960
01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:43.239
something bad.

1961
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:45.720
That is hilarious.

1962
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:47.359
So they were able to pull it from the interview,

1963
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.600
but I was just like, that's hilarious. Oh my god,

1964
01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:51.399
So I know what you did. Last Summer was a

1965
01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:54.079
screenplay written by Kevin Williamson in the nineteen eighties and

1966
01:24:54.199 --> 01:24:56.600
part of the nineties. It was not until nineteenninety six

1967
01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.359
that the screenplay was rushed into production by Columbia Pictures

1968
01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:02.800
upon the success of Williamson's written Scream, which was released

1969
01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:03.239
the same year.

1970
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:07.159
Wait So Kevin Williamson wrote an adaptation of A Little

1971
01:25:07.239 --> 01:25:08.159
Stunken Book.

1972
01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:08.479
In the eighties.

1973
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:10.119
Yeah, oh, just because he was a fan of it.

1974
01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:11.560
I guess, Oh that's really cool.

1975
01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:14.880
Yeah. So principal photography began March thirty first in nineteen

1976
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:17.399
ninety seven. It was a ten week shoot. Seven of

1977
01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:19.680
the ten took place at night, and Gelepsy devised the

1978
01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:22.319
color scheme of the cinematographers in East Croissan, which was

1979
01:25:22.439 --> 01:25:25.119
marked by heavy blues throughout and a notable lack of

1980
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:25.720
bright colors.

1981
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:28.479
Definitely, absolutely, and that was the beginning of that being

1982
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:30.439
the norm for quite a while in Hollywood.

1983
01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:32.479
The ice inside the storage of the boat was made

1984
01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:35.720
from gelatine, so Jennifer love hewittt could comfortably move around inside.

1985
01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:37.199
Yeah. I mentioned. When I looked at it, I was like,

1986
01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:38.119
that's movie ice. YEP.

1987
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:41.520
Writer Lewis Duncan was Vietmealy opposed to her young adult

1988
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:43.840
novel being reworked into a slasher film, stating she was

1989
01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:46.039
appalled in one interview. This was due to the fact

1990
01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:48.399
that her youngest daughter was murdered by an unknown assailant

1991
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:50.520
in nineteen eighty nine. She said, as the mother of

1992
01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:52.920
a murdered child. I didn't. I don't find violent deaths

1993
01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:55.680
something to squeal and giggle about. Her original book wasn't

1994
01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:57.560
that far off from a slasher, though. It's still a

1995
01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:00.720
bunch of guilty teenagers being stalked and terrorized by amorous madman.

1996
01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:02.840
It's just nobody dies in her version, so that in

1997
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:04.680
a sense, it's more like an old school mystery.

1998
01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:05.119
Yeah.

1999
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:07.159
Well, and that was the sign of the times too. Yeah.

2000
01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:10.000
Jennifer Love Hewett had just appeared along former screen queen

2001
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:12.600
Jamie Lee Curtis and House Arrests prior to filming this movie.

2002
01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.199
Yeah Yeah. Anne was surprised to see that she was

2003
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:17.319
also filming a movie in North Carolina at the same time.

2004
01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:19.920
Jennifer said, Jamie came over to the soundstage to wish

2005
01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:21.520
her luck on her first horror film, and would come

2006
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:23.239
over every day after to give her a hug.

2007
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:25.199
That's real sweet. Yeah.

2008
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.399
The rocky roads surrounding Dawson's Beach where Julie, Ray, Helen,

2009
01:26:28.439 --> 01:26:30.600
and Barry have their hit and run and later Julie

2010
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.960
travels across frequently is the same mountainous roadside location using

2011
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:38.720
Alfred Hitchcock classic The Birds Shit Okay, the set relocated

2012
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:40.920
from North Carolina to California for the scene where the

2013
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.920
four teenagers run over the man. Producer Eric fig said

2014
01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:46.159
North Carolina was the flattest state and that they needed

2015
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:48.760
the more curvy and dangerous looking road. Uh.

2016
01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:51.640
I mean overall, that's true, especially if you're on the beach,

2017
01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:55.119
the coastal side. Yeah, but North Carolina's got some But yeah,

2018
01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:57.359
California's got the winding roads out the ass.

2019
01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:59.760
The original trailer aka the trailer that we played with

2020
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:02.399
the big the show for the movie described Kevin Williamson

2021
01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:05.239
and said the movie as the creator of Scream. Miramax's

2022
01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:08.720
owners of Scream successfully sued Columbia Pictures for false advertising

2023
01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:09.840
and the phrase was removed.

2024
01:27:10.079 --> 01:27:13.159
Yeah, yeah, that's not smarty.

2025
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:16.119
So one scene so as Juliet her breaking point, swirling

2026
01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:18.760
around and asking the killer what's it waiting for even

2027
01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:20.399
though he's nowhere to be seen, so it looks like

2028
01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:22.840
she's talking to the air. And when speaking with US

2029
01:27:22.920 --> 01:27:25.479
Weekly in twenty eighteen, Jennifer Love Hewitt revealed that the

2030
01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:28.800
iconic scene was a kid's idea. That scene was actually

2031
01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:31.039
directed by a kid who want a contest to come

2032
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:32.800
on and create a moment for the movie, and it

2033
01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:35.159
became the biggest part of the movie, she shared. She

2034
01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:38.159
said that she had no idea where he was now

2035
01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:40.279
and that he wasn't thrilled about the or She wasn't

2036
01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:42.640
thrilled about the idea of the scene at first. He's like,

2037
01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:44.039
I want her to stand in the street and turn

2038
01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:46.560
around to scream what are you waiting for? Huh love,

2039
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:48.760
Hewitt said, I was literally like, are you kidding me?

2040
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:51.560
Right now? This is what I'm gonna do. Okay, this

2041
01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:52.399
was a great idea.

2042
01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.279
I mean, it is iconic in the film, without a doubt.

2043
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:56.560
There's no debate.

2044
01:27:56.720 --> 01:27:59.920
Yeah, in the movie. The Shiver's Department Store, located in Southport,

2045
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:02.840
North Carolina, and owned by Helen Shiver's family, is actually

2046
01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:05.800
a real store called Harold's Department Store, located in Bergaw,

2047
01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:08.640
North Carolina. As of twenty nineteen, the store looks very

2048
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:10.880
familiar to Shiver's store in the movie, selling a mix

2049
01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:13.399
of clothing and home appliances. As of twenty twenty three,

2050
01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:17.800
the store is permanently closed. Bo I know. Melissa jon

2051
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:19.680
Hart turned down the roll of Julie because she thought

2052
01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:22.960
it was another ripoff of Scream. Heart was not entirely wrong.

2053
01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:24.920
To ripoff it was the first time.

2054
01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:26.800
As the two were very much cut from the same

2055
01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:30.359
adapted the same cloth, and written by the same screenwriter

2056
01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:33.760
Kevin Williamson. However, Williamson actually adapted Lois Duncan's novel I

2057
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:35.720
Know She did last summer first and the early to

2058
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:38.600
mid nineties. He shopped it around the studios, who all

2059
01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:40.840
said no, since slasher movies were dead at that point,

2060
01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:43.359
so he put it away. Then, around nineteen ninety five,

2061
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:45.039
while house sitting for a friend in the midst of

2062
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:47.600
getting a shining like cabin fever, after watching a new

2063
01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:51.279
story about Florida's Gainesville Ripper, he suddenly got inspired. He

2064
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:53.479
reportedly whipped out one hundred and twenty paid screenplay for

2065
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:55.520
Scream in about forty eight hours while listening to the

2066
01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:58.720
soundtrack for Halloween. He submitted it to studios, and Mirriy

2067
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:01.960
Max eagerly bought in. Scream, of course, became a massive

2068
01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.640
hit in December of ninety six and single handedly revitalized

2069
01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:07.520
the slasher genre. At that point, Williamson took his I

2070
01:29:07.640 --> 01:29:10.159
Know script out of the Mothball out of Mothballs and

2071
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:12.800
resubmitted it Columbia Pictures then bought the rights and the

2072
01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:15.600
rest is history. So actually, if anything, Scream is a

2073
01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:17.439
ripoff of I Know what You did last Summer, and

2074
01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:19.760
not the other way around. Although Scream is widely regarded

2075
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:22.159
as the meta commentary on slasher horror movies rather than

2076
01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:23.119
an example of this.

2077
01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:26.239
One, it makes it does explain how Kevin Williamson had

2078
01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:28.600
another movie come out the next year. Yeah, that that

2079
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:29.680
script was sitting around.

2080
01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:32.119
Yeah. The final Secrets on the Boat was shot on

2081
01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:34.680
actual water bound vessel on the Cape Fear River, which

2082
01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:37.680
proved difficult for the actors and the crew. According to Gilepsy,

2083
01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:40.640
the filmmakers nearly lost the boat while attempting to dock

2084
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:43.119
it due to the volatile waters, and after which they

2085
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:45.399
were forced to leave and shoot other footage until the

2086
01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:46.000
following day.

2087
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:49.359
Jeez, well, I mean the ocean water will now show?

2088
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:49.840
Was the river?

2089
01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:50.159
Yeah?

2090
01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:50.920
Water be like that?

2091
01:29:51.079 --> 01:29:53.640
A waterbe like that. Indeed, although the film is not

2092
01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:56.720
specifically included on Roger Eberts's Most Hated list, he only

2093
01:29:56.760 --> 01:29:59.119
awarded it one star and described it as a tedious

2094
01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:02.520
series of obligate scenes in which nonsensral characters are murdered

2095
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:03.319
with a bloody hook.

2096
01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:07.119
Damn. Yeah, that's that's as brutal as the film.

2097
01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:10.039
Freddie Brince Junior wasn't pick. Wasn't the first pick or

2098
01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:13.479
obvious choice for Ray. Nobody wanted Freddy Gepsy. A gilepsy

2099
01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.079
said they thought he was too soft, he wasn't muscular enough.

2100
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:19.000
So Freddy probably screen tested four or five times. He

2101
01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:20.880
got to the point where he was saying, I'm done,

2102
01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:22.560
and I really had to plead with him to stick

2103
01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:24.560
with it because I wanted him. I thought he was

2104
01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:26.239
going to be great with it. He went to the gym,

2105
01:30:26.359 --> 01:30:28.720
worked out, changed his diet, cut his hair. I stuck

2106
01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:30.800
to my guns, and eventually they went back and said.

2107
01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:33.800
Yes, Wow, Kevin started quite a career.

2108
01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:36.359
Yeah. Kevin Williamson's own father had been a fisherman in

2109
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:38.319
real life and wore a slicker similar to that of

2110
01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:40.479
the killer. That's what inspired the outfit for the film.

2111
01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:44.720
I mean that checks out not screened in advance for critics.

2112
01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:45.439
Fuck him.

2113
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:50.359
The plot is similar to prom Night nineteen eighty, where

2114
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:52.880
friends accidentally caused the death of someone and make a

2115
01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:54.520
pack to cover it up, only for the past to

2116
01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:55.239
come back and haunt.

2117
01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:57.920
That's a really good point. Yeah, unlike this one.

2118
01:30:58.159 --> 01:30:58.560
It's good.

2119
01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:03.439
It's not a legal, legally prescribed sedative like prom Night, Sorry,

2120
01:31:03.640 --> 01:31:04.279
prom Night.

2121
01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:07.000
Johnny Gileki recalled doing a body cast for the scene

2122
01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:09.239
where Julie opens the trunk and finds Max dead's body

2123
01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:10.840
in it with crab crawling out of his mouth. He

2124
01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:13.119
later got a call that production was shut down because

2125
01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:15.600
Jennifer love Hewitt was so upset by seeing his dead

2126
01:31:15.640 --> 01:31:17.880
body cast of him. He called and reassured her that

2127
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:19.960
he was very much alive. They were very good friends.

2128
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:25.560
What so like, what did did Jennifer love Hewitt think

2129
01:31:25.600 --> 01:31:27.960
like they had hired Riggiero da Dado to make this movie?

2130
01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:31.000
That and that he was actually killing the actors? Like,

2131
01:31:31.600 --> 01:31:34.319
I mean, sag won't even let you work fifteen minutes

2132
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:36.800
over your day, let alone murder you for the good

2133
01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:38.840
of a horror? Is this true? Jesus?

2134
01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:41.560
The film originally had a different ending where Julie James

2135
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:44.239
is chatting with Ray online. She gets the pool party imitation,

2136
01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:46.399
and then another person starts to chat with her, typing

2137
01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:48.840
in I Still Know. Then the killer jumps out at her.

2138
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:51.640
The ending was used as a teaser trailer for the sequel.

2139
01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:53.640
It's like, it's like they were sitting there in the

2140
01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:59.319
studio and they were like, it's dated enough. Let's not

2141
01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:03.000
bring all instant message into this. Okay, let's not do that.

2142
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:06.159
Let's not bring internet relay chat into this.

2143
01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:09.560
Max's murder was added in reshoots. It was decided that

2144
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:11.920
the killer, who remained mostly in shadows the first half

2145
01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:14.279
of the film, worked on a suspense level but never

2146
01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:17.159
provided a tangible threat to the main characters. The murder

2147
01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:19.359
was then filmed to show the audience that indeed this

2148
01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:21.640
character was a deadly threat to the four.

2149
01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:24.119
Leads and how and how I no shit.

2150
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:26.640
Upon getting the role of the killer, Ben Willis muse

2151
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:29.800
Watson explained they had already set up in Wilmington, North

2152
01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.159
Carolina the film, and they had everybody cast with the killer.

2153
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:33.960
One of the things they were worried about was that

2154
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:36.279
they wanted somebody who could play the killer but be

2155
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:38.920
nice to kids. Most of the killers you hire will

2156
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:40.920
get into a character and stay there, So they were

2157
01:32:40.920 --> 01:32:42.920
a little bit worried about Jennifer Love Hewitt and Sarah

2158
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:45.920
Michelle Geller, and they wanted somebody nice. This guy who

2159
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:48.039
was a producer on horse jumping movie I did with

2160
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:50.760
Julia Roberts and Bobby Duvall called Something to Talk About

2161
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:53.279
in nineteen eighty five. He was also a producer on this,

2162
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:55.159
and he told them I know a guy that could

2163
01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:56.800
kill you in a minute, but he's the nicest guy

2164
01:32:56.840 --> 01:32:59.199
there was on set, and they called me, and I

2165
01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:01.399
drove across town in Hollywood, went to his office and

2166
01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:03.399
they put me on tape. While I was sitting, they

2167
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:05.479
sent me the tape out before I got home. I

2168
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:07.199
got a call saying could you leave in the morning,

2169
01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:09.680
So I flew to Wilmington, got out there and started

2170
01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:10.840
studying the character.

2171
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:14.119
What namby pamby bull Crap. I always hear that like

2172
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.600
the Killer characters, they like don't eat with everybody, so

2173
01:33:16.800 --> 01:33:18.560
they're less comfortable on screen with them.

2174
01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:22.279
Hughes Watson still gets recognized as the killer. He revealed

2175
01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:24.479
one of my buddies wanted to go down to Santa Monica,

2176
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:26.479
Pere to see the movie down there, and we scared

2177
01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:28.479
some people. When it was over, they stood up and

2178
01:33:28.520 --> 01:33:31.119
were getting their coats, looked back and saw me standing there.

2179
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:33.039
And when I got back to my hideout in the

2180
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:35.039
mountains of Tennessee, my wife wanted me to go see

2181
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:37.359
it in Knoxville, and these five or six kids sitting

2182
01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:39.239
in the front kept talking, and right after one of

2183
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:41.000
the close upon screen, I tapped him on the shoulder

2184
01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:44.640
and said, hey, keep it down. And I think he

2185
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:46.119
probably had to change his underwear.

2186
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:49.880
Uh uh, you mean he changed the guy's underwear. That's

2187
01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:52.079
a that's a little weird, right, Ah, that makes the

2188
01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:52.840
story interesting.

2189
01:33:53.960 --> 01:33:56.760
So what are your final thoughts on nineteen ninety seven's

2190
01:33:56.760 --> 01:33:57.640
I know what you did lesson?

2191
01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:01.520
I mean, I love the film. It's super fun. I

2192
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:03.920
even think it's it's direct sequel is super fun.

2193
01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:04.279
Yeah.

2194
01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:09.439
I mean if it was Scream, it would be a

2195
01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:11.960
by it one hundred percent. Yeah, But it's not. It

2196
01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:14.439
is the beginning of a of a new world of

2197
01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:16.840
slasher movies. So I'm gonna give it a rent it.

2198
01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:19.399
But if you're a horror movie, no, it's a buy it. Yeah,

2199
01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:21.359
And I think that's just obvious.

2200
01:34:21.760 --> 01:34:24.159
Rent it and buy it caveat. For me, I think

2201
01:34:24.239 --> 01:34:27.319
this is a testament to a great nineties thriller that like,

2202
01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:30.119
like I've said, the entire episode, this builds on menacing

2203
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:31.960
so well that once you get to the kills, you're like,

2204
01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:32.800
oh yeah, I'm all in.

2205
01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:35.479
Yeah, the suspense has played out really really well, really well,

2206
01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:38.359
which I mean considering you're competing with fucking Wes Craven. Yeah,

2207
01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:39.800
you gotta turn that heat up.

2208
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:42.439
Yeah, And I mean the soundtrack is nineties is fucking great.

2209
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:48.000
Na na, no, no, no, no, no, but no, I

2210
01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:49.680
know what you did last Summer still stands up to

2211
01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:51.880
this day as a great slasher film. It's a cable

2212
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:53.439
player even still a day, and it makes sense as

2213
01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:56.239
to why it is. And I will say, along with Enrique,

2214
01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:57.960
I do like, I still know what you did last summer.

2215
01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:00.439
It's just really stupid towards it's the end.

2216
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:03.079
Yeah, but you know what, to me, what makes me

2217
01:35:03.159 --> 01:35:05.600
not care about how stupid it is, Yeah, is the setting,

2218
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:09.760
the island. Yeah, the constant rainstorm, the hurricane weather.

2219
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:14.119
The restafarian, Jack Black getting killed. Well, you know, let's

2220
01:35:14.159 --> 01:35:16.560
not talk about let's not talk about that. But no,

2221
01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:19.279
I still you know did last Summer is absolutely worth

2222
01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:21.479
the watch. And that brings us to our recommendations. We

2223
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:23.119
always like to give a couple as we close out

2224
01:35:23.159 --> 01:35:25.880
the show. My first one this week, I would love

2225
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:28.880
to give some love to Kevin Williamson's teaching Miss Tingle

2226
01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:30.800
from nineteen ninety nine, a story of a girl who

2227
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:33.439
was willing to do anything to become valedictorian, even if

2228
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:35.439
it means murdering the teacher that stands in her way.

2229
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:39.279
One of the best Helen Muren performances where she plays

2230
01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:41.520
a bitch so well in this, but you also love

2231
01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:42.560
her the entire time.

2232
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:44.279
Yeah, I do like that one.

2233
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:47.880
And second, I'm gonna give one more recent Fear Street

2234
01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:50.199
Part one from nineteen ninety four, which came out in

2235
01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:53.520
twenty twenty one, Netflix's original A circle of teenage friends

2236
01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:56.159
accidentally encountered the ancient evil responsible for a series of

2237
01:35:56.199 --> 01:35:57.880
b real murders that have plugged their town for over

2238
01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:01.159
three hundred years. Welcome to Shady Side. Cannot recommend the

2239
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:02.760
Fear Street trilogy enough on Netflix.

2240
01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:05.760
Well, I'm going to go in a direction I guarantee

2241
01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:09.600
you didn't see. Oh I think recond. My recommendation this

2242
01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:13.119
week is going to be the original sleep Away Camp.

2243
01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:14.079
Okay, okay.

2244
01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:16.880
It's a summertime film, even though it's clearly in the fall,

2245
01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:21.800
it's a summertime film. It's got believable young people, so

2246
01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:25.039
in some ways it's the antithesis of I know what

2247
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:26.840
you did last summer, because I know you did less summer.

2248
01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:31.279
Like everybody's too attractive, too pretty, too well lit. Sleep

2249
01:36:31.319 --> 01:36:34.239
Boy Camp is down and dirty. It's got griminess to it,

2250
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:38.800
but it is a who done it at its core, absolutely,

2251
01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:41.119
with an ending that will leave you shocked if you've

2252
01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:41.680
never seen it.

2253
01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:43.399
And a very good fake out if you have an

2254
01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:45.239
HD transfer now with a one certain scene.

2255
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:48.720
Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. But so I'm gonna say that.

2256
01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:50.880
I'm gonna say, Robert Hillsticks, that was a nineteen eighty one.

2257
01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:54.119
I believe ye, nineteen eighty one's sleep Away Camp. That's

2258
01:36:54.159 --> 01:36:55.520
my wreck, good good wreck.

2259
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:56.840
Do we have any emails?

2260
01:36:57.079 --> 01:36:57.520
We do not.

2261
01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:01.000
We do not, so I know nobody loves so I

2262
01:37:01.159 --> 01:37:03.039
guess we should go ahead and talk about what we're

2263
01:37:03.079 --> 01:37:05.039
talking about next week, which we are starting.

2264
01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:10.920
Maulgus Oh god, please, no, Davis always.

2265
01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:13.199
Sounds like something that your doctor tells you you got

2266
01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:15.199
after you went to Thailand.

2267
01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.039
All right, well, then I'll put this out to the

2268
01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:20.079
viewers and listeners. If you have a great title for

2269
01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:21.239
our Martin Mole.

2270
01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:24.279
Tribute month, Martin Mole August Time.

2271
01:37:24.439 --> 01:37:26.920
Martin mulgus Ius.

2272
01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:28.880
As hell that's hell I hate if.

2273
01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:31.239
You have a better title than mulgust or Martin Mulgust

2274
01:37:31.920 --> 01:37:34.960
right into us. Let us know. If we pick your title,

2275
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:35.960
We'll let you pick a movie.

2276
01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:37.399
Whoa, yeah.

2277
01:37:38.760 --> 01:37:40.760
If you If you give us a good title for

2278
01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:42.319
this month, we will let you pick a film that

2279
01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:44.119
we will talk about. Same if you slip me at

2280
01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:47.960
twenty that's fair too. So well, uh well, hell so

2281
01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.920
next week is Mister Mom. Mister Mom from nineteen eighty

2282
01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:53.920
three with Michael Keaton, a big time favorite of mine.

2283
01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:56.359
I think it's actually like one of his first big movies.

2284
01:37:56.479 --> 01:37:58.279
Yeah, and it's one of the first big films from

2285
01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:02.000
a screenplay, an original screenplay, yeah, from John Hughes.

2286
01:38:02.079 --> 01:38:06.279
And one thing we will tease about maulgust right now. Unfortunately,

2287
01:38:06.399 --> 01:38:09.039
Martin Maul is very well known for his TV appearances

2288
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:11.199
more than his film appearances, so we have had to

2289
01:38:11.239 --> 01:38:13.119
scrape a little bit on these. But we are picking

2290
01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:16.640
titles that he is represented well in. I would say,

2291
01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:21.000
what sure, I'm just saying, is there a lot to

2292
01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:24.319
pick from? This filmography is not huge. His TV catalog

2293
01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:24.880
is way bigger.

2294
01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:27.039
This filmography is pretty big. But he also is sometimes

2295
01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:27.840
in like one.

2296
01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:29.960
Scene, one scene. Yes this is very true. But yeah,

2297
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:32.479
we'll talk about mister Mom nineteen eighty three next week

2298
01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:33.359
on do You Even Movie?

2299
01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:36.319
All right, Well, make sure to check us out at

2300
01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:39.479
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2301
01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:41.720
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2302
01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:43.760
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2303
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2304
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2305
01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:53.119
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2306
01:38:53.239 --> 01:38:56.880
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2308
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2309
01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:05.920
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2310
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:10.399
So until next time, We'll see you next next summer.

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01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:14.279
Damn it, Fuck you dud,