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June 4, 2024

Humanoids from the Deep (1980): Roger Corman Sea-Monster Horror

Humanoids from the Deep (1980): Roger Corman Sea-Monster Horror

Henrique and David begin their Roger Corman tribute with Humanoids from the Deep (1980), the notorious coastal creature feature released by New World Pictures. In the fishing town of Noyo, genetically altered salmon help create amphibious humanoids that threaten residents just as a proposed cannery divides the community. Doug McClure stars as fisherman Jim Hill, Ann Turkel plays scientist Dr. Susan Drake and Vic Morrow is the volatile Hank Slattery.
Director Barbara Peeters builds the town, its fishing economy and the conflict between Slattery and Johnny Eagle before the monsters surface. Anthony Pena’s Johnny opposes the cannery and faces racist hostility, while Jim and Dr. Drake investigate attacks along the coast. The hosts trace the contamination back to the company’s DNA experiments and praise the practical creatures, dangerous cave encounters and explosive Salmon Festival climax, where townspeople fight back together.
Henrique and David approach the movie’s sexual violence without minimizing it. They discuss the additional material commissioned after Peeters completed principal photography, the ethical and tonal consequences of those reshoots and the way that production history complicates the finished film. They also note that Cindy Weintraub’s Carol, Jim’s wife, and several other women resist the creatures, giving the climax moments of agency amid exploitation imagery.
For David, this is both a birthday selection and a gateway into Corman’s ability to combine art, business and rapidly changing genre trends. Henrique recalls encountering Corman through everything from kickboxing films to Showtime and cable releases, while David connects Humanoids to the wave of restored 1980s cult titles he collected. Their conversation expands into Corman’s distribution legacy, his training ground for filmmakers and James Horner’s early monster-movie score.
Henrique rates Humanoids from the Deep a stream-it for its narrow, extreme appeal; David calls it a buy-it for committed fans of exploitation cinema and Corman history. Both agree that its gore, nudity and sexual-assault content make it unsuitable for casual viewers. Their companion recommendations—Piranha, Slugs and Tremors—place it within a tradition of small communities battling biologically altered monsters while preserving the original notes’ enthusiasm and necessary warning.
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They began in the water, dark gliding shapes that violate every law of nature, and they're not human, but they hunt human women, not for killing, for mating. Humanoids from the Deep starring Doug McClure and Taquel and Vic Morrill. Humanoids from the Deep rated r under seventeen. Not admitted with that parent. In a world where podcasts reign supreme, two friends dare to ask Do You Even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denyer. Spoiler alert. All right, my friends, welcome back to another episode of Do You Even? Movie? I'm, of course your host, Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy double d David Denie, the fish lover himself. It is true, it is true. So before we dive in there, before we dive into the film tonight, it's important to talk about something that honestly, I worre he might be a little too heavy for the show. David brought back the fu Manchu. Yes I did, Yes, I did. He's rocking a haul Cogan. Yes I am, and I generally generally don't have a problem with that. Uh huh, I mean, because like you look like not to speak ill of the dead. But it's like we have Morgan Spurlock at home. Morgan Spurlock at home. But wow. But by the problem I'm having is the combo with your with your horn rim glasses because you look you look like like the dad at a school that is like coaching like curling or something, because that because like you really want to be a part. But they're like, Okay, Dave, we need we need someone teaching curling. And you were like, Oki, don't you know. But anyway, so this week we are well, this month we are taking a break from scattering what we like to cover to cover the works of the late and great Roger Corman, who passed away last month. Roger was if you don't know, I don't know how to even begin. But Roger Corman was the ultimate producer of not only low budget films, but of independent films, one of the greatest distributors of independent film of all time. For those who don't know, he not only distributed Drive in Fair but he was one of the first people to massively distribute Fellini and Ingmar Bergmann. So, but that all said, we're going to be covering four films this month, either produced or directed by Roger Corman. Two of them will be produced and two of them will be directed. Yep, and this week is Dave's choice, my choice, so he chose the one with the most inner species, right, would you stop? I'm not wrong, You're not wrong. But at the same time, my god, Eddie, I mean, how am I wrong? Anyway? I'm just saying this also doubles as my birthday show because this is this episode is dropping two three days for my birthday. Oh, you won an award. I don't want an award. I'm just more so saying that your your birthday pick is already gonna be Monster Squad. Well, I'm not one hundred percent. You never know with me will I'm the wild card. Humanoids was on my list for a potential birthday pick, but then unfortunately, with Roger passing, he just kind of made it even more perfect for a pick for us to kick off the month with. Because for me, this is the most I feel like this is the most notorious of his movies. That was a Roger Corman staple because I remember back in twenty ten when they released all those through shout for the first time. Well, the eighties was kind of a I wouldn't say it was the golden era for Corman. Really. I mean, Corman was so good at adapting to whatever trends were happening. You look at his career in the sixties and seventies, it was it was all monster movies and teenage runaway movies and the biker films, which he kind of started the entire genre. And in the eighties he dipped his toe in slasher movies, he dipped his toe in the gory monster movies and stuff like that. In my opinion, his greatest time was in the nineties because he was just cranking. I mean, I mean ten eleven movies for Cable every year minimum, and he was making them in Los Angeles, he was making them an Eye Ireland all at the same time, he was still making some in the Philippines. It's he was always doing something and he was always trying something new. But I think that the reason where we're all kind of conditioned to love his eighties output is because the eighties is also the most loved nostalgia decade for movie lovers, especially for the kind of people who are going to buy a shout factory release or or what have you. So it would only make sense that people would dive into stuff like humanoids, stuff like galaxy terror ya, lots of especially forbid World. Yeah, I haven't seen that. That's when I need to revisit. Well too bad, but you never will. I mean, what was your first introduction with Roger? Because mine wasn't humanoids. Mine was the pictures he did with Vincent Price, the Poe pictures. Well, see this is gonna again make me feel old because I was being exposed to Roger Corman when I had no idea. I was watching the Kickboxer movie I was watching, and which he made dozens of movies about kickboxers, dozens of movies about strip clubs, dozens of these different types of movies, and I was absorbing them as a kid who had access to a television pretty much all the time. So I was watching Roger Corman movies my entire youth, and I had no idea. The idea of Roger Corman as a person came about when I was around thirteen or fourteen. That was when I kind of understood like, there was this guy his name was, or there is this guy because when he lived to be ninety eight years old named Roger Corman, he's the King of the Bees. At that time, he had been making sci fi original movies for about four or five years at that point, it was like two thousand and three, two thousand and four. He was really leaning into that space and also leaning into licensing out titles. I mean, he made a little bank off of Grand Theft Auto because the video game ended up having to pay him a license Fast and the Furious. He got to pay out on that. They ended up remaking Death Race two thousand. He got a payout on that as well. So he was definitely always thinking about what to do with his massive catalog. Yeah, and then in I can't even remember, on maybe twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, maybe a little earlier, he sold his entire catalog outright to Shout Factory, and and the rest is kind of history. Yeah, And as he winded down his career, I mean, he didn't start slowing down heavily until he was in his mid eighties eighties, Yeah, which is insane. Well, because I think I think a lot of people within the last probably what ten to fifteen years, a lot of his stuff hitt in Sci Fi Channel, like Dino Shark and all those movies because it just seemed like those were getting pumped out a lot and well, and he was a brand name that was easy to sell, so they would be like, oh, yeah, it's another Dino Shark or whatever. Yeah, but they'd like, but it's Roger Corman Presents. Speaking of the phrase Roger Corman Presents, this is a guy. This is a guy who had a series of films for Showtime and ended up producing for Showtime twenty three. I believe films and the Roger Corman Presents again. I saw films in the Roger Corman's Presents line. Uh. The one I remember the most is Alien Avengers because it's insanely violent with George went and what's her name she used to be on MTV doesn't matter, But but like those were like Duet Parker Posey, No, okay, Parker Posey. It was like Julie Brown or something. So I just couldn't remember for sure, but like he was so just on Showtime. He did about eleven movies a year for two years straight, and they were all under the banner of Roger Corman Presents. And some of them were remakes. One of them was actually a remake of the film We're talking about tonight Humanoids of the Deep, which name which, Well, it's a remake. Usually they do that. Well, because Death Artists the remake a bucket of Blood. Well, but they called it Death Artist on VHS they called it a bucket of Blood when it aired. All of those films had the original titles when they aired because the what they were for. And then I would assume, knowing Roger, he had some deal where it was like and after its been Onio Channel for eight months, he can put it on VHS. That sounds like him. I mean, well, he was always thinking about that. And one of the things that's always inspired me about Roger Corman is he like figuratively and literally outlived all of his competitors. Yeah, you know, he had. Some of his big competitors were like Dino de Larentis's company, which went out of business because it grew too fast, Live Entertainment, Republic Pictures, the relauncher of Republic Pictures. Live Entertainment became Vidmark, which became Trimark, which became Artisan, which again got too big for its bridges. Eventually, every single every single version of it got too big for its bridges. Roger looked at the video and movie business so differently, because people would during the heyday of VHS, folks were like, wow, so if we make a film and we sell the rights on the for VHS, we'll get one hundred and fifty or two hundred f fifty thousand dollars, which was not impossible. So a lot of people are like, well, then let's do that, and then we'll sell our foreign and then whatever it makes in theaters, you know, we'll all be gravy. Roger would be like, okay, so between foreign and VHS we made four hundred thousand dollars. Let's make the film for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So the film has already tripled its money before it's even made. And he did that again and again and again and again and again. He has over four hundred films credited to him as a producer of some sort. Well, I remember when the news broke that Shout Factory has had basically acquired his library to what we know of. That was a really, really big deal because that was so much content. Yeah. Well, well, in an amazing turn of luck, when he sold New World Pictures to a group of attorneys who, in my opinion, did not know ass from Elbow. When he sold it, he kept all of the catalog. They bought the business, they bought the name, and they bought the distribution methods, but they didn't take any of the old catalog, which is insane to think, and wonder Roger took the deal. They offered him some insane amount of money just for the business. Gee. So when he sold New World Pictures the next day he opened Concord, which also was known as New Horizons, right. And he also had a couple other companies like Pacific Trust, Cali Film. He had all these different companies that would produce, distribute, and market low budget films, and he always had his fingers in all these different pies. But that's one of the reasons he was able to sell his catalog all at once was he maintained a lot of it, that makes sense, And very seldom, although he did very seldom did he allow other investors. He would just invest his own money, which is completely unheard of too, although there are films where he had partners on them. Every now and then he'd let somebody come in and put one hundred grand in, and he put one hundred grand in and split the revenue. But I wish, I wish I knew all the inner workings. I wish there was a book, because there are many Corman books and I've read. I've read any of the good ones for sure, and of course COR's Corman's World, the documentary that we've mentioned and already, like last week, I think we talked about too. Man. My problem with Cortman's World is my problem with the books. They stop at like nineteen eighty eight or not even I mean, like Cortman's World kind of stops at like eighty one one. Yeah, but it's a great dog and his book how I made one hundred movies in Hollywood and never lost a dime. It stops like right before the nineties, and that drives me crazy. I want to know everything about it. The only documentary which I would have to look up the name of because it references when he built the studio in Ireland, which was like I don't want, I want to keep want to say Killarney, but I'm sure that wasn't it. But there's a documentary out there about when he worked in Ireland, and it's the only like in depth interviews I've ever seen him do about the movies he made in the nineties, which is extra funny because he was making basically action movies, whether they were kickboxing action movies or shot him up action movies, and then he was making erotic thrillers because they were huge. Yeah, and Ireland did not love it when they found out, like they saw them as pornout because they went to film FESTI where they showed one of these erotic thrillers and they were just like because it was just like so much bumping and grinding, and that was pretty much the end of that. But that was they had like a good three or four year run to this day for when productions get made in that part of Ireland, they're like, oh, this is all because Roger Corman caused us to build a studio, caused us to learn how to be film workers, because he would send you know, American filmmakers or European filmmakers there, and then every movie they did it would be like, well, you know, if somebody said, like, you know, I could be the key grip if that's a pay bump, and he'd be like, go ahead, I'm not gonna And so his idea, basically when Rogers's dream was to eventually have to buy almost no plane tickets. Yeah, like just send them down the Dragon, Wilson, or just send them Maria Ford, just send them whoever. And some of those movies, those are some of his best from the nineties were the ones that were made in Ireland, and a lot of them you don't even know it's in Ireland. Specter, which is a highly underrated Roger Corman film, and then possible it might be maybe you can get ahold of it, and now I hope he can. But that one's like a haunting horror house movie about a family. He moves into a haunted house and things start getting fucked up and everything. But anyway, I digress. I could talk about Roger Corman whatever, because he's one of my first heroes. When I heard how he just aggressively made movies he thought were entertaining and he had that perfect marriage between business and art, I always wanted to be a part of that. You know. My first hero was Roger Corman. My second heroes were guys like Fred Olin Ray and Jim Wnorski. And yeah, it's just I don't know. So it's surreal that he's gone, but it was surreal that he was around. Yeah, you know. The other guys that you would say in the same breath with him from his heyday would be Sam Arkough and people like that. They're all dead maybe maybe made it to the mid nineties before they passed away. But Roger, he was just you know him and and han to like twenty ten well him and I mean he was just on Joe Bob. One of the like his last appearances was him on Joe Bob, Bruce Dern and no offense to Bruce, but Roger sharper than Bruce was. Roger was always so incredibly, incredibly sharp. Do you even movie? Will be right back, welcome back to Do you even movie? I don't know, I I yeah, I'm sad. I'm sad that he's gone. But we're gonna talk about one of his weirdest, yes, one of his weirdest theatrical outings. That's the other thing is this film is from what year was this sec nineteen eighty so it was when they were still doing theatrical distribution, yep, like crazy, And this one's Humanoids from the Deep, Dave, if you want to give the deats, I would love to, so. Humanoids on the Deep from nineteen eighty. This film is one hour in twenty minutes rated R. There's no exact rating for the R, but I'm gonna go ahead and say sexual violence, graphic violins, language, and drug use. That's what about, right, did you man sexual assault? Yeah? I said sexual violence. Okay, I think that's fair. No, No, just a film I like to give Dana crap because his favorite Korman movie is The Most Rapists. The director of this film is Barbara Peters. There are actually two directors on this film, because we're going to talk about this before when I get done with her filmography. So Barbara Peters starts her career as a writer and director in nineteen seventy with Dark Side of Tomorrow. Then she goes on to Bury Me An Angel in seventy one, Summer School Teachers, also writer and director on in seventy five, Star Hops in seventy eight, which he was uncredited on for writing, and then directorial. Her last directorial is he went on It's in the Deep in nineteen eighty. That is because this film is notorious for the fact that Barbara Peters was given the film by Roger and there are conflicting stories of how this went about it quite a bit. Yeah, Yeah, And one of them is that Barbara Peters was given the script when it was called Beneath the Surface, and it had nothing to do apparently with the monsters sexually assaulting women at that point, and that they all so had had it under beneath the surface, so that nobody knew that the title was going to be humanoids. Well, see that was a common thing. I forget what the name of it was, but one of the actors in one of his sci fi films said that the title was something kind of artsy, and he was like, before the ink was even dry on the from the pen it was retitled Galaxy of Terror. Yeah, and the deep was always humanoids the Deep. The reason that it was beneath the surface was because they didn't think anybody was going to attach themselves to a first. Yeah, that's that's my point. Well, and so there are a lot of reasons he was working titles, especially on B movies. Yeah. The biggest one though, is, yeah, to get a talent attached. And as a man who made a movie called Babysitter Massacre and then got talent to agree to be in a movie called that, it might have been easier if I called it something else. But the other one is, if you're making a sequel to a popular franchise, you want to use another title so that you can kind of move under the radar. They did that with this series. Well, yeah, every one of those was after part I think it was after three was a Bowie song. They were all named after David Bowie song. Yeah. The Slumber Party Massacre films were all shot under different titles. First one was Sleepless Nights, second one was Don't Let Go I Forget. The third one was shot under but they all had those names to kind of get talent on board, and then the title would change to something outrageous. Yeah, and it was such a common practice back then. I mean I produced a film that the the directors were not thrilled with the marketing and everything, and all I could think was like, look, I'm just trying to get people watch the movie you made for me. Yeah, Like, I'm just I'm just trying to help. But you know, some people, they get weird. So Barbara Peters gets the assign of for Reuonoyds in the Deep and she goes and shoots so prob So what Corman says is that she was given the film and she shot the men's deaths beautifully and brutally and all that stuff, but when it came to the rapes, they were off screen. This was a point of the exploitation era and driven era, so he knew that you either had to have breast or blood within what the first nine minutes or every nine minutes or every two pages. It was like it was like every three pages or something like that. Yeah, every three pages. So Roger goes back and uses another director, so finishing out Barbara Feeders. So she does you Knowed in the Deep in nineteen eighty. Then she found her stay in TV with Powers of Matthew Starr in eighty three, The Renegades, Caggey and Lacy, Matt Houston, Remington Steele, Finder of Lost Loves Falcon Crest in nineteen eighty four, All Roads Lead to Falcon Crest, Shadow Chasers in eighty five, Misses the Science in eighty six. So once she got done with Humanoids, the experience on that film basically led her to stay away from theatrical from that point on. I mean it may, I mean it sounds like it, but also television is very lucrative Yeah, especially back then. Yeah. And the other the other director that stepped in to finish the film or do the research at that point was Jimmy T. Murcami. He was the director on The Insects. It was an animated film. In sixty four, he did the Tutsi Pop How many licks is to take to get to the tuttirol center of Tutti Pop commercial? Mister al Oh Wow? He directed that in sixty nine, mister awl, How many violations from a from a humanoid can it take to get to the center of a Tutsi Pop? Oh, let's find out mad Magazine TV special in seven four Humanoids from the Deep in nineteen eighty. Then he goes on to do Battle Beyond the Stars the same year in eighty Another Roger Corman film, Heavy Metal in eighty one. Really yeah, So he does Heavy Metal in eighty one, The Snowman in eighty two, the cute Snowman TV special that was always on around Christmas time. Then he does Win the Wind Blows, another popular animated film in eighty six, Opera Imagineer in ninety three, The Storykeepers ninety five, The Christmas story Keepers in ninety eight, Christmas Carol cartoon in two thousand and one and a two thousand and five he did the Cape Bush video for King of the Mountain. Okay, so he went into TV movies mostly so I mean not a that different of a fate from Barbara Peters, but I mean hell to do. Humanoids from the Deep, well, some of Humanoids from the Deep, Battle Beyond the Stars in heavy Metal. I mean that that of itself impresses me. I was not expecting heavy metal. Yeah. Moving on to our writers, we have William Martin who did the screenplay for this. He has Humanoids in the Deep in nineteen eighty and then American Experience in ninety two, and then that is all. We also have Frank Arnold, who is credited with the story, who does The Macombaffair in nineteen forty seven, followed by Humans from the Deep and Martin B. Cohen also given a story credit. He does Rebel Rousers in nineteen seventy, Humanoids from the Deep in nineteen eighty, also gets credit in ninety six for the story as well for the remake would make sense. But where he is probably more known is as a producer, which he did Instant Love in nineteen sixty four, Blood of Dracula's Castle in nineteen sixty nine, al Adamson, that's the al Adamson one. Okay, I've watched so many cuts of that film. Yeah, the TV cut, the theatrical cut. I just love the fact that Dracula has to rent his castle on that movie. That's one of my favorite points of the story. Hey, the economy is what it is, Powell, I mean, what do you expect for the Old count Nightmary and Wax in nineteen sixty Ninety's a producer on The Rebel Rousers in nineteen seventy, Humanoids from the Deep in eighty and also The House of Where Evil Dwells in nineteen eighty two. He produced on Okay, Yeah, so he was quite a producer. Moving to our cinematographer, we have Daniel Lacrowe is it came Cambra, Cambra, Cambre, Cambra. So he does The Wild Racers in nineteen sixty eight. Is his first outing a cinematographer, than the House of Missing Girls sixty nine, Patty in nineteen seventy, The Velvet Vampire seventy one, Sweet Kill seventy two, The Runaway seventy two, Terminal Island in nineteen seventy three. I don't know if I've seen that one. That's the one that Vinegar Sindron put out a couple of years ago. I want to say, that's those convicts that gets strained on that island. And it's like during an apocalypse as well too. Huh Okay, it's supposed to be pretty wild movie. The Young It sounds perfect, yeah, reasonable. The Young Nurses nineteen seventy three. Well, now we're talking Macon County Line nineteen seventy four, The Working Girls seventy four, Six Pack Anni seventy five, Lady in Red seventy nine, Humanoids from the Deep nineteen eighty, Battle Beyond the Stars nineteen eighty, Saturday the fourteenth eighty one, Kissed My Girls nineteen eighty two, The Dirt Bike Kid nineteen eighty five, and a film called sixty eight that was shot in eighty eight. You could pretty much pinpoint exactly when he met Roger, when he met Roger. Yeah, and then just because this man deserves the deserves his credit because we all unfortunately lost him way too young. A composer for the film is a guy you might know by the name of James Horner, and James Horner gets his start in seventy nine with Up from the Depths, then goes on to do The Lady in Red in seventy nine, Humanoids in the Deep in nineteen eighty, Battle Beyond the Stars nineteen eighty, then he goes on to the Hand in eighty one, wolfin Deadly Blessing, The Pursuit of dB Cooper, Star Trek two, The Wrath of con in nineteen eighty two, Wow Forty eight Hours in eighty two, Crawl in eighty three, Heaven Help Us eighty five, Cocoon, Commando, Aliens and American Tale, Willow, Red, Heat Vibes, The Land Before Time, Field of Dreams, Glory Tails From the Crypt, The Rocketeer, Patriot Games, The Page Master, Braveheart, Casper, Apollo thirteen, Jade, Jamungi, Ransom, Titanic, Mask of Zoro, Perfect Storm, Enemy at the Gates, Raptor in two thousand and one. I'm betting that's just because they reused it. They reused it, Yeah, Wind Talkers in two thousand and two, Apocalyptico in two thousand and six, Avatar, the Karate Kid Remix, and Magnifson seven and twenty sixteen. He unfortunately died in a plane crash in twenty fifteen. Well, I wish he'd gotten a chance to do something worthwhile other than a humanoids you know, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, No, I mean Horner's score in this Is. I'm a huge fan of scores. I'm a huge soundtrack nerd, and this is this is a score that feels almost too good for this movie in my opinion, Harsh, I'm just saying, I love you. You're saying that when it's like one of your favorite movie. I know, No, I don't. The score is good, That's what I'm saying. And the movie's good too, but the score almost feels too good. Go on, say what you really think. Would you like to know what the synopsis says on IMDb? Oh god, okay. Humanoid sea creatures start killing a fishing town's residents, raping their women, and it's up to the townsfolks and visiting biologists to fight back and fend them off. That's kind of perfect my synopsis. Oh boy. A small fishing village becomes the target of aquatic monsters who kill the men and sexually assault the women. The town tries to find out where they came from and how to stop them. I'm not saying yours was terrible. I'm just saying I mean they kind of nail it. Well. No, they absolutely do. So. Moving on to our cast, we have Doug McClure, who plays Jim Hill in this. He has one hundred and four credits on his acting resume, getting a start in nineteen fifty six with a film called Friendly Persuasion. He does the Maverick TV series in fifty seven, South Pacific in fifty eight, Lawman, The Twilight Zone, The Lively Set, It takes a Thief, The Virginian in seventy one, Death Race in seventy three, Not the same one, Oh no, just a billion two thousand, Yeah, The Land, The Time Forgotten seventy four, He Wandays from the Deep in nineteen eighty, The House for Evil Dwells in eighty two, Manimal in eighty three, Fanny Sea Island in eighty two, Cannibal Ron two in nineteen eighty four, Magnum p I in eighty five, The Fall Guy in eighty five. Fifty two. Pick up a really, really great Roy Schreider noir that I cannot recommend Enough Murder. She wrote eighty seven. Zorro Recast in ninety Matt Locke in ninety two, Maverick the film in ninety four, and the Kung Fu The Legend continues in nineteen ninety five. I hope he was playing he was playing Kane. I'm sure he was this old white, like really really old white. Yes. Sure. And Turkle is moving on to our cast list. Who plays doctor Susan Drake? And this she gets to start in nineteen sixty eight with paper Line. Then does Matt Helman seventy five portrait, Hitman in seventy nine, Death Ray in two or Death is a Death Rader? Yeah, it's Death Ray two thousand to nineteen twenty, Humanoids in nineteen eighty, The Fall Guy in nineteen eighty two, Fantasy Island eighty two, Love Boat eighty three, Matt Houston New Mike Hammer, night Writer, Scarecrow, Miss King night Court Murder. She wrote Deep Space in nineteen eighty eight, Oh fred Ol Nice Stilk Stockings in ninety one, RoboCop the series in ninety four, The Fear in nineteen ninety five. Well, I mean it's no The Fear Fear two. I Know, I Know All Highlander series in ninety five, A List in two thousand and six, and Dejas Vous with Denzel Washington in two thousand and six as well. And finishing us up is Vic Morrow, who plays Hank Slattery. He gets a start in fifty five with the series Blackmore Jungle, Albert Hitchcock presents in nineteen fifty seven, King Crale in fifty eight, Naked City fifty nine, The Rifleman Posse from Hell Bonanza, The Untouchables Combat Hawaii five, oh Mannix Ironside Streets of San Francisco in seventy three, Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry in seventy four, which would have been probably the start with Corman, Right, is that one? I didn't know those at Corman nine percent? Sure that's a Corman one. California Kid in seventy four, Funeral for an Assassin seventy four, Bad News Bears seventy six, Roots in seventy seven, The Evictors in seventy nine, Littlest Hobo in seventy nine. Then goes on into Humanoids from the Deep in nineteen eighty, Charlie's Angels in nineteen eighty, Magnu p I in eighty one, Fantasy Island eighty two, nineteen ninety, Bronx Warriors in eighty two, and twilight Zone the movie in eighty three, and unfortunately we did lose him on that film. If you want to look it up or even go to an episode that we did on this week in Geek, I can't remember you on that one where we talked about twilight Zone. Okay, that was just me and Birdman. We did an anthology horror episode where we talked about the tragedy of the curt on Twilight Zone. And basically what had happened is there was a scene in Vicmorrow's story where he was in a war space and he's trying to save these two kids. The helicopter pilot that was commanding the helicopter got too close. There was a malfunction, and unfortunately the kids and Moro both lost their lives on that shoot. Yeah, and it's a very high controversy story. Yeah. Was vict Borrow in The Last Shark Great Wit was? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, he plays Quint. Yeah he is. He plays I'm sorry he doesn't play Quint plays knockoff Quinn. He played he plays wish dot com Quinn wish dot com Quinn. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's actually one of my favorite roles he's done. Last Shark is fun. Last Shark has a lot to like. It has a lot to like in it. So, as of this recording, Humanis in the Deep is available everywhere from Crackle to free v to two B. You can find this movie pretty pretty easily, and I cannot recommend it enough, which we'll get into right now. Fine, what was your first time watching Humanoids on the Deep? Oh? Gosh, I uh so, I was a little late to the game. I rented it on DVD. Okay, when gosh, so twenty tens, when they released the Corman series through Shout for the first time, was it didn't it have an original DVD release when Corman was doing DVDs on his own. Yeah, there were a massive amount of those. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty certain that I either bought or rented it. Those New Horizons Concord title DVDs. They were like twelve dollars brand new. Yeah, you could get a lot of them at Best Buy for the ten or fifteen bucks at the most. Yeah, and I remember, I remember watching it, and I mean, I'm not going to say it blew my mind. But it definitely had that nasty Corman eighties vibe, absolutely, and it has that serious, like post exploitation movie feel because you know, the kind of the heyday of the exploitation movie was the seventies, even though in reality we make their exploitation movies made every single day. But that like sense of like grainy film and and you know, waning movie stars and stuff, it's very heavily on display. Yeah, I think I'd first heard of Humanoids listening to, like or watching like some special feature on something with Joe Dante, because I think he was offered it. He was offered it first and turned down directing on it well, and I think he was still in the editing department at a New World at that time too, So I think that was the first time I heard about it. In fact, no, I'm I remembering now. I heard about it when I watched Piranhaka, which I also rented on DVD, and that was what got me curious to see Humanoids. I mean, I mean it was like a bunch of naked girls, big monsters. Yeah, some heinous shit happened, and then the movie goes completely ape shit in the last twenty minutes. So what's not to like? Yeah, exactly. I was probably like fifteen or sixteen the first time I saw it. I had gotten a copy. My uncle had sent me a copy when the twenty ten release would come out, and I had heard about it through my friends who own the bookstore in Troy because Sue had said it was like one of her favorites from like her drive in Fair days and had like told me the story of it. I was like, that sounds insane. So when I finally got to see it, I was like, that's exactly what the description says, and I was I was pretty blown away by the movie, to be honest, because like it has every trigger warning possible in it, not only with with these actual assault, but you also have the murder of the kid within the first ten minutes. Yeah, the child murdered, dog murder, the dog murder. Yeah. I mean, so it's just like you have everything happening that like normally you don't do in movies, like within the first like ten to fifteen minutes of this movie. Yeah. Yeah, No, it's all right up front. It's all right up front, like you know exactly what you're getting and speaking of you know what you're getting Are you ready to get into this? I guess. So we open with a shot of a beach and we get a card that says Humanoids from the Deep, or if you're watching the re release, it says Monster Do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? Which I was always curious because it was released under the title Monster Overseas. Yeah, but why was the print that we were always that they were always making the blue DVDs off. Think that's a new print they found, because that's because that's the new four K transfer, the STEELUK we watched as the new four K transfer they did. And I think that's a new print they found because myle copy was Monster as well. I mean, or they could have found a print with the mom start tight or with the humanoids. Yeah, absolutely, because yeah, usually it's a monster humanoids from the deep underneath it two. So but this just says humanoids from the Deep. So we get that title card and we get the first shots of Noyo, which is the fishing village that the movie takes place in, and we meet Tommy and Jim as they are talking to Deeke, who is a local fisherman with his son, and then we also meet Hank Slattery who is also a fisherman as well, and they're getting ready to head out for a fishing run. Because this is a fishing village. This is what they do, This is how they get their money, this is what their job is, and so they're always fishing in this town. Yeah, well, I mean there are only like ten boats. It feels like there's got to be at least two other things. Yes, but yes, it's a fishing a fisherman village for sure, and there's definitely some hard times they've fallen on a bit because the topic that they get to in the movie is that there is this cannery that is wanting to open up in the village that's gonna give them a bunch of jobs and whatnot. And we'll get more into that as we go. So we see Deac and a son, Jackie, are out in the water and they're trying to pull on one of the nets and we see a hand come up that's a deformed aquatic monster hand just tugging on this net, and so Jackie goes to start running the winch, and the winch runs out of gas, so the kid goes to start filling up the winch. But then they realize that the mass is about to give because we see the hand is just tugging on this net and just pulling on the boat. So he tells him not worry about the gas and come get it. Well, the creature tugs on the net and the boat tips to the side as Jackie falls into the water. Yep, bye little kid, Bye little kid. Because Jackie breaks surface for all of about two seconds before he suddenly sucked down and in one of the coolest shots, they you know, we see normal water bubbles come up and then all of a sudden, one's a little bloodier, one's a little bloodier, and then it's just a barrage of blood just coming up. It's a hell of a lot of blood, a hell of a lot of blood indeed, So Deeke is freaking out and he's trying to, you know, get everybody to help him. They're trying to pull him back because he wants to jump in the water and save his son. Meanwhile, the gas can that Jackie had has now spilled onto the boat and they're going to shoot a flare up into notify the notify somebody that there's trouble. But when the boat rocks that one last time, the flare gets shot right into the gasoline and the boat explodes, and boy, it's one of the most impressive explosions I think I've seen in a Corman film. Yeah, I mean it's a big boom, yeah, and from a lot of different angles, a lot of different angles. And so Jim and Tommy are on their boat and they see this, so immediately they're looking at their binoculars, like, you know, I don't se anybody that jump in the water, so they know that there's trouble, so they call it. In the next scene we see is that Jim is back at home and he has one of the officers over, which I think his name. I think his name is Hank. Two. I think there's two Hanks. Is Hank Slattery and Hank the sheriff. I don't remember. That would be a huge screenwriting faux pas for there to be two Hanks if I feel like he said Hank at one point and called him over, but I could be wrong. But anyway, so he's talking to the sheriff and like they're trying to figure out, you know, what happened, and that's when Jim's dog starts to bark, so he lets them out, and that's what we also see that Jim has a wife, Carol, and he also has a little son as well. So they let the dog out, and the dog starts going through the alleys and goes towards the beach and suddenly comes upon one of the humanoids and it barks at it. The humanoid Screech, grabs the dog. The dog in him fight for a little bit, and this is one of those scenes where you know, prepare your if you're an animal lover, because this is just the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, I mean, yeah, so did you find it? Well, I thought it'd be nice of me to just make sure that this only shows one character named Hank, and it's Hank Slattery. Okay, Slattery, yeah, because I think it would say sheriff on it or something. Is that? Okay, let me this is what happens when Dave's in charge. Nobody's credited as sheriff. Well, then I give up, good, good good. Anyway, he's talking to the sheriff and so we see the dog in attacks. So the next morning, Carol is looking for Baron. That's the dog's name. And she goes into the doghouse. She's calm for the dog, and we get a fake out as she opens the doghouse door and a cat runs out. But she also notices that there's the slime all over the doghouse as well, which I never got because like, the slime looks like it's their footprints for the most part, but then it's all over the doghouse in that one scene. But they didn't even attack the dog there. Well, it seems like that that means they were at the very least very interested in the property. Yeah, So so then we see that on the dock, Hank and his buddies have arrived and as they are walking up to the dock, they finded that all their dock dogs have been slaughtered. And it is a pretty gruesome sight because the next we cut back to Jim and Carroll is there on the beach and they come across Barons remains as well. So now we've had multiple dead dogs in about ten minutes of the run time, barely ten minutes. So that is when we see that Jim and Carroll are following the trail. They come across the remains and back in town, slattering his men are really upset with the dog's death because we One thing I forgot to mention is one of the characters is a native American named Johnny who's not very well liked by Hank on the island. Yeah, Johnny Eagle, American, Yeah, and he definitely is not liked by Hank, even more so when Johnny is pulling up to the dock with his dog still alive and everyone else is gone, So Hank immediately suspects that Johnny is the one that's done it, and he tells the boys that they got a problem. I mean, it's kind of an understatement in this film, kind of an understandment. This is also of that classic formula that is you see it a little less now, but there is this classic formula of just like here's a small town yeah, with small town people, and then something happens. You know, in the early days, it was like a meteor falling, yeah, or you know, toxic waste dumping or whatever. It's one of the most classic monster movie setups ever. Small town yeah, and then these things start happening. I mean, even Jaws is basically that one hundred per cent of So later that night, we see a young woman getting ready to go out, but she's uneasy because she feels like somebody is watching her and we're seeing a POV from outside her house. So she makes her way through the house, scaring herself because the phone rings and it's her friend Linda, and we see outside that something is approaching the house, and that's when her boyfriend Jerry pops up, playfully scaring her, revealing it was him, and she says, you know that Linda and Tommy are gonna be coming over soon, so they don't have any time to mess around. We find out that we are then going to the Noio Salmon Festival, which is I mean a hoot and a half. They got a live band, they got a live band, everybody's dancing, everybody's showing up drunk and drinking beer in the parking lot for the most part too. Well, I mean, is it that much different in Troy, Ohio? You know what, I don't want to go there. Oh, I wasn't even picking on you. No, no one really doesn't. I mean, we have Dora now, but uh yeah, I mean we've only had Dora for about a couple of years now, and we haven't really had any incidents with the public drinking. What so you're saying everybody in Troy can't hold their liquor. There are a bunch of sissies. Huh No, I'm not saying that. I'm more so saying that you can walk around town with cocktails now, which is nice. What I Okay, all right, you should partake in the Dora, but you don't drink do Dora is designated outdoor refresh something. It's it's basic. Dora is a lawn in public. It's yeah, it's not exclusive to Troy. It's a thing that's being passed around like Dayton has a Dora. Oh well, I mean, who's going to stop them from drinking in public? Anyway? Fair enough? So we are at the Noyo Salmon Festival where everyone is attending, and we find out that, like I said earlier, that a company called Kanko is visiting the town and they have this plans to build a cannery and Noyo that's going to give them a bunch of jobs. They're going to basically increase the size of the fish and the loads of fish is what they're promising. And that's when we meet doctor Susan Drake played by Anturkle, who is studying the streams the past few years and claims now they can get the fish bigger and in larger masses. M mass. I'm sure nothing is going to go wrong here. Well, i mean, look, it's a monster movie and people are gonna fuck with nature. Yeah, sounds great, sounds good. So Jim is also going to be taking doctor Drake and the rest of the Canco people out fishing tomorrow. And that's when we also see that Hank is, you know, he's really in for Canco. He really wants us to go through, and he's just kind of buttering up Drake, you know, asking her, you know, what she's going to do, and how great she is for saving the town. The dance, though, is interrupted as Johnny shows up holding his dead dog and accusing Slattery of being the one to kill the dog, and he also says that he has plans to file a suit on the rights of the land and the fishing in the village to stop the cannery from being built, which pisses Hank off. Well, they're all afraid that the cannery is going to completely deplete the fish, yeah, and that that'll be yet. Yeah. Yeah, So that's when Hank tells the boys to take Johnny outside, and that is when we get into probably one of the funniest scenes of the movie, as they start beating on Johnny and then they're just makes a big brawl just breaks out in the parking. Literally the entire town ends up start to fight. Well, it's just like somebody's like, what's going over and they get a fist too, and they're like. Jerry and Peggy are on the truck baking out, and Jerry pops out. He's like, what's going on and he gets punch Jim because Jim steps in to basically stop the fight because it's Hank and three of his guys on Johnny. They're holding Johnny will Hank is just pummeling him, so Jim gets into it. He starts punching, then starts punching. Well, then finally everybody's just fighting and the sheriff has to fire his gun up in the air and be like, all right, parties over, everybody go home. Took him long enough too, Yeah, and like you said, put that gun away really quick. Yeah. I have a feeling that in the original script he didn't fire shots. But then when they were watching the edit, they were like, why did they react so well to him just saying stop it. Yeah, so they put in two gunshots two gunshots, so fires off the gun tells everybody go home. The next morning, we see Slattery is going solow down the river towards Johnny's house and he eaves drops on Johnny saying that he is gonna take this case and start it legally to delay the cannery from opening, and that he needs all the backing that he can find to go ahead and get the support he needs for this to go forward. Back on the beach, we see Peggy and Jerry are enjoying themselves while Jim and Doctor Drake and the rest of the Canco crew are out fishing in the water. Jerry and Peggy make their way down the beach and while back on the boat, something gets caught on the line of one of the Canco reps. He starts trying to reel it in, but suddenly the line snaps and Doctor Drake takes pictures of something swimming past the boat really quick, and they don't know what it is. They don't know what it is, something in the water, and even Jim calls her over and he's like you know, did you get any pictures? She's like, well, I won't know until we develop them. So right now, we just basically have a lovely couple on the beach. I'm sure nothing's gonna go wrong, right, Wow, she shot it on film with a hipster. So back on the beach, Jerry and Peggy make their way down the beach and they start going towards the water. They're splashing and messing around. Jerry goes under real quick and tries to scare her pops up, and then suddenly Jerry is pulled underwater and Peggy is thinking this is just another prank by him. Meanwhile, the viewers of the film are watching Jerry get made into a bloody pulp under water. Yeah. It's pretty fucking greasy, pretty gruesome. The murders are very gruesome. Murders are very gruesome. So that's when Peggy is like, you know, stop playing around. She goes over because apparently his body is resurfaced now, and she spins him around and half this fucker's face is just gone. And special effects by Rob Bote Motein who would later become legendary for doing the special effects on the thing. Roger John Carpenter. Roger Corman's the thing. Oh man, that would have been sick. Oh John Carpenter's the thing. He went on to do a ton of other special effects, but that was kind of I mean, rightfully. So that's the film that put him on the map. Yeah. So Jerry is just a bloody pulp right now, and he's trying to get to Peggy, who is then pulled away by a monster and pulled across the beach. The creature then throws her down and starts assaulting her unfortunately. So that is the first one that we get I think of the film. I'm sorry it took so long. That's not what I'm That's not what I'm saying. Okay, you can be in touch with your angle, would you stop. He's a very angry boy. So in town, Slattery is matter at a local bar. As he's sitting and drinking with them, Slattery is discussing how to take care of Johnny because the men are like, you know, hey, man, like we could we can fight this legally too as well, And he's like, you know, what's gonna happen if we lose? Like, what's gonna happen if he gets the land? Back, we're all gonna be out of the job. So he's like, we've got to do something. We have to we have to take care of this ourselves. Yeah, little outlaw justice. Yeah, plenty of that to come. Oh yeah, there's a whole hell of a lot. So on the doc, Johnny comes over, thanking Jim and Tommy for helping him to fight the other night, and Johnny tries to talk Jim about the cannery, but Jim basically states, you know, hey, you know, Johnny, there's nothing to talk about, Like I'm for the cannery, You're not. Like, We'll just leave it at that, and he walks away. So Tommy is still there with his girlfriend and Johnny is like, you know, hey, guys, like I caught some fish, like I just need some help eating them. You want to come over and like we can talk a little bit. So they get in his boat and they start going towards Johnny's house. Back on the beach, Billy and his girlfriend Becky are in a tent as he has a ventriloquis dummies name scene, this fucking scene, and they're they're getting ready to do that dick down to the dirty end. Of course, he's turning her on via the dummy by talking dirty to her with a ventriloquist dummy named Chuck, named Chuck, named Chuck. And I think it's worth mentioning that this is, yes, the most unrealistic part of the entire film. Okay, ventriloquism does not get you, Letter, it does not get you. That is a matter of record. That's not my opinion, Dave, that is a matter of public record. Go to library scam skin through the microfiche. You'll see, Yeah, you'll see. So suddenly a humanoid breaks into the tent, killing Billy pretty gruesomely again as like Billy's back is basically just opened up right before her. It just rips a giant chunk right out of his right out of his back, and he starts chasing Becky before assaulting her on the beach on the river, Johnny Tommy and his girlfriend have arrived at Johnny's just as Slattery and his men are arriving. But they don't know what's going on exactly, so they go inside, and that's when we see that Slattery and his men are lighting Molotov cocktails. Well, after a long hard day, you know, a couple of cocktails I think, is any Americans? Right? Do you even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do you even movie? I don't know what was in them, but the boom that they make in a second, my god. H yeah, it was a bit more of explosion than you'd expect from a Molotov. So we see a creature rise out of the water by Johnny's house as it's revealed, Like I said, Slattery just been making the Molotovs. They toss one in and this explosion that we get is like they threw three sticks of dynamite in the house. Yeah. Yeah, so they throw for the uninitiated, a Molotov cocktail, yeah, is a is a glass bottle with some kind of usually it's gasoline, but some kind of flammable liquid in it, and then you stuff a rag in it so you could light the rag on fire. You throw it, and when the glass shatters, it spreads fire everywhere. Traditionally, it doesn't just make a house explode, which makes me wonder if there's some kind of a Native American ritualistic collecting of oily rags and illegal fireworks that I'm not aware of. I don't know a lot about Native American culture. So please you know, right in if if you are a Native American and you feel that that part of your religion or your culture or whatever is is keeping the most flammable home possible, that may be and that may be just my ignorance. I think my favorite part of it, though, is that they see the Maltov cocktail coming. So he's like, you know, everybody, get down. So they get down, and I swear they get down in the house and they don't get down in the house. Okay, so they're outside the house. That okay, that's what That's what I wanted tonight. That was like, wait, they leave the house. Yeah, yeah, they went outside, okay, so they all get they all get out of the house. The house implodes, and that's when we see, like I said, the creatures of certain it explodes, explodes. Sorry, I know, no, like we love to do the whole like h Dave misspoke and I pointed out, but I can't allow that. It's fine, that's fine, that's fine, doctor, no problem. So that's when we hear tom Tommy is going down by the water to get uh or to get it to put out the fire. And that's when he hears a humanoid squeal, thinking that it's Slattery's been which I never got because the sound it makes is the humanoid squeal. Well, I think that you have to imagine being on edge. Yeah, you just almost gotted and you're livid because they almost killed you, your girlfriend and your friend. Yeah, So I think he's just like when he hears something, he's like, all right, somebody's gonna I gotta get revenge on this. So he starts firing a gun off in the distance, not realizing that the humanoid pops out of the water right behind him, dragging him into the water. So getting out of the water, Tommy is then attacked by another creature. So now there's two humanoids that are by the dock, and he's saved by Johnny, who shoots one and then acts as the other creature as well. Doesn't ask him a question, he just asks me. No, he just he just acts. So Tommy's girlfriend Linda takes Johnny's truck to go get help, but that's when she finds a humanoid on top of the car. It starts breaking the glass, so she breaks real quick, throwing the humanoid off the car, driving by it, and then begins to drive again. As another one crashes through the back window, grabbing onto her, causing her to drive over a bridge and the car explodes, killing her and the humanoid. And it was so good it's used it at least four or five Roger Corman films. This this truck rolling off. Anytime you watch a Roger Corman movie, if you see an old beat up, like an old style like nineteen fifty sixties style beat up pickup truck, now you know it's going to go off for bridge and explode. That is true. They even, and this is my favorite, they even have the audacity to reuse that in the Humanoids from the Deep remake. Yep. So in the remake they get in the truck and drive off and it goes off the edge. Oh, they included like basically the whole Salmon Festival isn't like the carnage and stuff is reused in the ninety sixes. Really, I don't remember that. Yeah. So the next morning, doctor Drake arrives in town wanting to rent a boat, but finds that Slattery and his men are discussing Linda's death. As Johnny arrives with an injured Tommy and boat Jim and Carroll take Tommy off to the hospital and Johnny can find and doctor Drake saying basically what he saw in the creature of what they look like. Jim wants to assemble a group to go look for the creatures, but nobody wants to join him except for Johnny and doctor Drake, so they join him. They get back in the boat and they go to one of the attack spots. So now we are back on the beach where the caves are. Doctor Drake immediately begins to investigate the attack spot, commenting on them being here and clearly they're more so nocturnal creatures and they're moving upstream to get more into the line of feeding, is what she says to Yeah, well, because if they're eating fish, yeah, they would eat all of the fish in the entire community in no time. So I think she theorized that they're trying to get to the ocean, yeah, or that that's where they would need to get too. Yeah. So they head back to the dock and get on Jim's fishing boat, hoping to find the creatures. They reel in a large salmon and doctor Drake thinks that they might be close to what they're looking for if they're catching salmon this size in this spot. So now that these fish have gotten bigger in these areas, they think that, okay, we're getting closer to what we need to find. So Jim tells her that he doctor Drake thinks that it might be closest spot. Jim tells her he spoke to Carroll, who says the doctors think that Tommy is gonna be just fine. And Jim suspects that doctor Drake is not telling him everything. Well, I mean, why would there be secrets? Nah? I mean, I mean I mentioned when we were watching it that like there's one of the guys who owns the company that's gonna build the cannery. Yeah, and it's just like, I'm old and white. I will get rich by hurting you in some way. I don't know what it will be yet. That's kind of how it goes. How it goes. So doctor Drake requests they go and explore the caves along the coastline because that catches her sight. So the three of them venture to the beach near the caves, finding a humanoid resting that rises up and begins to attack them. But it's not just one humanoid. Now, there's two again again. And you know they're generally not from the deep. No, they're generally from like the rivers and stuff, which I can't imagine a more than ten feet deep. Well, yeah, so another creature emerges and tries to attack them, but it's shot because Jim and Johnny are just laying into these creatures with the rifle. Johnny is drugged to the water and is attacked by another reacher. He's shot down by Jim and then under a pile of seaweed and slime. After the creatures are dead, Peggy is found to still be alive. So Peggy, who was attacked on the beats previously, now she has found alive. And that's when another creature rises right from behind doctor Drake again, and that's when Johnny decides to shoot it right in the heart with a harpoon. Goddamn right, he does. Got the coolest moments, super I like how they don't they don't hesitate to kill the humanoids. No, No, it's kind of like a zombie movie in that way. There's lots of bashing the monsters yourself. Well, I think that's one thing we need to we need to specify right now, is that these creature costumes are top tier for a Roger Corman eighties movie. I think that's a little harsh. I think they're top tier. I mean, there's some little cheesiness to him, but they're they're like full bloody, gory, slimy suits with arm stuff. So I'm not I don't know if I would say, I'd say they're kind of a top of the line, and considering rap Botein was behind them, it's surprised, absolutely so. At the lab they take the humanoid carcass in for dissection. Looking over the body, they find out that it has that they find the gills, stating that even though they can walk on land, their primarily aquatic creatures with large craniums and webbed hands, and the large cranium means they could be very smart. Yes, now they may not be using all of their brains yet. No, like Dave, you've here, but they need to get that limitless drug because we're only using what you know, five percent of the brain. I hate people that. If you have ever heard someone say, you know, humans only use uh what one percent, two percent, five percent, four percent of their brain or twenty percent of their brain? The rest is limitless potential. They're stupid. They are not using they are only using five percent of their brain. That is not true. That's some psychic hogwash. That's stuff that people say to try and explain psychic phenomena. I think one of my favorite moments with you in the theater that can just came to mind when you brought that up is a scene the Lazarus Project and Donald Glover's character did that whole five percent of the brain speed, Oh my god, And you looked over me and you were just like fuck, it's just bad science. So they have large cranium web in web hands. So one of the can't go reps, Edwards tells doctor Drake to keep this hush hush and until the reps can review it, her theory may not might be completely wrong. And this pisses off doctor Drake. There's a giant humanoid laying on the table in front of this cocksucker. Yeah, like, come on, dude, what more does it need to suck you off for you to believe it's real? Jesus. So Doctor Drake tells him that she's not going to be quiet about it anymore, and she reveals that they have been testing on the waters and the salmon specifically messing with DNA, creating what they call DNA five. Well, if I missed DNA four, will I be lost? I watch it? I mean, you might be. I don't know. But those salmon, the salmon that were given the DNA five which allowed them to basically expand into larger sizes and I think reproduced quicker too, if I remember correctly, they were accidentally released into the waters. And that's what they believe have come in regards of the humanoids. Yeah, they said something like two thousand infected salmon got loose, got loose. Yeah, two thousand salmon got loose. And that's what they believe is going on right now, and that's what is the problem of the waters of Noio. And she believes the humanoids are wanting to mate and grow their species. So Jim questions how many are there at this point and where they might strit next, and then remembers that, hey, guys, it's the Salmon Days festival night. Yeah, and this is where the movie, to use a professional term, yes, becomes cuckubanane. I would say so, yes, And it's one of the highest, like the one of the greatest moments of the film one of the biggest reasons to watch it again and again. I mean, if you if you have been on the fence of us talking about this movie, if you go on YouTube and just look at the carnival scene for Humanoids from the Deep, if that doesn't win you over, then the movie's not for you. Because the carnival scene has everything you could possibly want out of it. I mean, Jesus what no. I mean, it's a Carlo cardiage, NonStop carnage. There's breast exposed in it is just obscene. So we cut to the Salmon Festival, where we see a packed event with families enjoying rides. There's music, there's food, there's dancing, and in regards to the music, the that's running the festival, he's like, you know, hey, can we play a little something more upbeat because the band is just kind of playing slow jams at this point, The Whitewater Boys, that's the band name. I love that. We also see that there's a DJ there from f s H Radio with Miss Salmon who's inviting people out and f s hih, I know, it's just funny, I thought, miss k f s h K. Yeah, damn it, it's w on the west on this Wait, yeah, it's w out here on the east coast and it's k on the west side of the country. You're right, so k F s h. Oh, Yeah, you worked in radio. You should know this ship. I quit so k F s h. With Miss Salmon inviting people out back at the house, we see Carol is with her son and we see something from a POV is watching her from outside the house. So we keep bouncing between this carnival, which gets more and more bizarre and obscene as things go, and then we keep going from there to this suspenseful woman and child being star scene, And in a way I hate it, yeah, but in a way, a bigger way, I fucking love it because it's such a weird choice. And I know why it's there. Yeah, because they shot the carnival the original the original the original movie was a lot different, apparently from what we got of humanoids in the deep now, and there's a lot of reshoots for those, for the for the violence and the sex. Yeah. So I think if anything was a reshoot day, yeah, it would be like, let's just have them wreck a carnival. Yeah. So a lot of the moments in that carnival thing. They feel improvised, I would say so, especially everything with with the cavefish. Yes. Yes, So back at the festival, the humanoids reservice at the docks, and we see Slattery and his boys arrived stating that they checked the caves and found nothing. Jim that arrives with the body of humanoid to show everyone and warns them that they don't know how many there are, but they are here, and they are here indeed, because suddenly the attack begins as they start bursting up from under the dock. Yeah, that must have been a cut rate dock. Yeah, must have been built by like the mayor's cousin or something, because they are just punching right through him and grabbing people, grabbing legs. People are falling in the water and getting attacked by even more humanoids. It is just mass chaos, absolute chaos. So Jim tells Doctor Drake to start pumping gas from the hole into the water into the water, because they apparently, like he says, like fifty gallons of gas in the hole that they can pump into the water. So she starts putting the gas into the water. Meanwhile, we're just seeing carnage we're seeing heads ripped off, we're seeing people get attacked, we're seeing a guy's spine get ripped out. But again we're also seeing people killing the humanoids back. Yes we are, Yes, we absolutely are. When that is when we cut to one of my favorite shots where we have a carousel that we see a couple is on and a humanoid is on it trying to attack. The woman cuts away from it, spins back around, and then the man that was on there originally is now just dead in a seat as the carousel just keeps going around as it spins him right round, baby right, spends him right round baby indeed, so heads are ripped off in the body, spines are clawed out. There's an attack on the merry ground and Carol hears on the radio as the is then killed because the humanoid starts attacking the radio DJ and he's trying to protect Miss Salmon. Unfortunately he does not. And when we say miss Salmon, I mean a woman with a sash. Yes, she won like the County Fair for being a beautiful woman. Yes, Miss Salmon, and Miss Salmon actually uh stets up and starts fighting with the humanoid, but not before it rips her top off, exposing her breast, so she kills the while topless. Utterly, shock, utterly. That's what I was talking about when I said, like a lot of it feels improvised. Yeah, the idea that like miss Salmon gets her top ripped off and then she ends up getting a thing killing one back. I was like, I could totally see everybody on the set being like, let's do this, let's do that. Yeah, So we see that the humanoid creeping around Carol's house is also scaring the baby. Slattery is then asked to help because there's a little kid that runs up and he's like, can you help my sister? And that's when we also forgot to mention that the humanoids start attacking the doc and they're taking down the entire walkway, so they're taking out columns and whatnot. So people are falling in the water, and one of which is a little girl that's standing right above the water on this dock and this humanoids reaching right for her. So Slattery goes over tries to help the little girl. He ends up crawling down to get her and push her up so the brother can grab her. Humanoid starts attacking her and that's when two humanoids pop out of the water going after him and her. She gets away. Slattery is then right between the two of them as Johnny starts shooting and killing humanoids. So Johnny saves Slattery from the humanoids. Do You Even? Movie will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? And a real quick aside, I decided to look into miss sand Shane. Yeah, are you aware she has an incredible career? I mean, I have one fact better, but no. So Apparently Linda Shane, who plays Miss Samon literally a woman who is in a bikini and then gets her top ripped off and all this stuff. She was a screenwriter went on to be a screenwriter for Roger Corman. She wrote Screwballs Oh Wow, which is one of the most popular Corman comedies. Screwballs two she didn't work on as much, but then in nineteen eighty eight she directed Purple People, Eater, Oh Cool, then two episodes of the Secret World of Alex Mack Even Cooler, The Undercover Kid, the feature film Little Ghost, Feature Filmy Fly, and Ryan feature film Oh Wow. She directed multiple feature films, had quite a career writing features as well. She wrote Starla and the Jewel Writers Crystal Hart, what years Screwballs? The first one was in nineteen eighty three, nineteen eight three, so that's three years after this. Yeah. So I'm just saying, like, you know, you can say what you want about like doing like a bimbo character. Yeah, but holy crap, she went on to really do the work. That's awesome. That's super super cool. Very I just realized. I was like, what is this? And yeah, I was just curious, so I decided to look into it. Well I appreciate that. So that way back at the Dog just mass chaos is going. But then the townspeople start realizing, you know, hey, we can we can fight these creatures back. So they start ganging up on the creatures and start beating the hell out of them too. Jim and doctor Drake set fire to the water and it's ablaze. Now humanoids swarm slattery, But like I said, they're shot down by Johnny. The townspeople start fighting back. One goes after doctor Drake, but a shot by Johnny. So Johnny's just picking them off left and right in this. Yeah, he ain't kicking an ass and not even bothering to tick names. Yeah, so Jim finds out that Carrol is home alone, so he goes to his boat and goes off to ride and get Carol, who's trying to fight off a humanoid now that has broken in and she's armed herself with a kitchen knife, and that's when three more humanoids descend upon the house and she starts stabbing the fuck out of one and basically kills it. Yeah, she kills the shit out of it, kills the shit out of it, then kills another one with U dreno and stabs the fuck out of it, and then she waits and luckily Jim arrives home pretty quickly. She is saved, and then that morning Jim and her are back on the dock. Jim then finds out that doctor Drake is back at the lab with Peggy, who is coach coaching her through her pregnancy. And that's when we cut to Peggy who is being coached through the pregnancy by doctor Drake as suddenly a humanoid creature emerges from her stomach, and that, my friends, is nineteen eighties humanoids from the Deep. Well. I appreciate your brevity on a barely eighty minute movie. One of my favorite scenes at the end is right before the reveal of the doctors delivering the baby baby, which is just a total Aliens rip off. I love when they're walking around for the tord Walk and there's just a fire right there. Yeah, and the the there's smoke all over and everybody's just go like because they did all band together and fight off the humanoids, which I like that twist. No, there's one. There'sn't one great shot where they're like, it's like seven of them just ganging up. Yeah, because when they surrounded I was like, yay from around here? Are you no? But I like that because one thing that I found really refreshing was there wasn't some oh we've got an antigen, but we have to get it into the water before whatever, or oh we have a we have to get them all in a building instead of a bomb. The humanoid kill a bunch of people, but then the people fight back, they kill the humanoids protecting their town. But then, of course, once we realized that all the women that they've attacked are pregnant aka spawning, deadly spawning or the spawning. I mean I was just using a salmon reference. Well, I was thinking of, you know, another Roger Korman alumna. You know James Cameron with his movie Parana two, the Spawning, the only film that's not listed when he says the movies he's directed, that is correct, and Humanoids is a hell of a lot of fun. Yeah. It goes by fast. Yes, and I've never had a bad time watching it. And unfortunately I have to watch it a lot because it's like every time Dave has a birthday or some shit, he's like, we're watching Humanoids. I onely, like the second time that I've picked it watching because Joe Bob was not my pick. Luckily Joe Bob picked it and we got to watch it with Joe Bob. You've picked it a few times. We watched it in the backyard. Once we watched My New Blue. Oh wait, is like three times now I've watched this a good amount. Oh, so thank you, David. Would you like to know some facts those air quotes? So give me some air quote facts. So Enrique and I have already discussed this off. Mike. We don't know how true this is, but according to Wikipedia, the budget for this film is said to be two point five million, with a box office return of two point one million. There are a few reasons. That doesn't sound right to me. Two point five million is a little high for Corman, although he did make a few two million dollars three million dollar movies, It sounds a little high. And the fact that its box office was so low in comparison, yeah, is what really worries me, because this was before VHS took the hell off. Yeah, so it would have been a loss leader for Corman, although I guess foreign sales and stuff knows, so maybe they did. Maybe it was his biggest monster movie, and that's one of the reasons people look back at it so fondly. So would you like to know who actually reviewed it fondly? Malone three or four stars, saying fast occasionally hilarious gutter trash from the Roger Corman stable. Yeah, no, No, Moulton got it, yeah, though we absolutely did so. The picture was filmed during October, November, and December in California of nineteen seventy nine. The production was originally filmed under the title Beneath the Darkness in the hopes that it would imply a classier type of story and therefore attract the kind of big name cast the filmmakers wanted Classy, Classy. There are only three humanoid creatures seen together on screen in the same frame throughout the movie. The production really only had one fully functioning humanoid costume and two others that could be shot from certain angles because they weren't as convincing. Use of such angles, as well as the editing, would help create the illusion that there were way more humanoids than just three. For the climactic carnival masker a tale as old as time. Honestly, director Barbara Peeters once said that humanoids were originally supposed to be played by the film stuntman. Unfortunately, the stuntman found the monster suits to be too goofy looking and refused to wear them. Additional actors had to be hired to perform as the monsters. It was supposedly Botine's PA's basically, so he had gotten his production assistant to go ahead and do it. I believe that when the film, when they were setting up to film Cindy went Traub's shower scene, producers asked her if she would do it nude. It was her first role ever and she did not feel comfortable taking her clothes off, so she refused, so they re shot footage later of a nude body double silhouetted behind a shower curtain and inserted it into the movie. When producers hired the stand in, they chose one with much bigger breast than wine Tob as she would so she would really grab the attention Wyne Troup even behind the curtain. When wine Traub saw at the premiere, she was shocked and embarrassed. She ended up having to explain to everyone she knew that that wasn't her naked in the shower. Decades later, when she filmed a making of interview on the DVD release, she laughed and admitted she can joke about it now, especially since the body doubles much more voluptuous figure. Well, you know Linda Shane who plays Miss Salmon. Of course, first role and first only on screen nude scene. She said years later she was incredibly nervous pulling off her bikini top in front of so many guys in the crew, but she was glad she didn't play victim like the other actresses. She loved that she got the attack and kill one of the monsters, even though her boobs were bouncing around when she did it. She jokes that put it. Yeah, she joked that the guys in the audience were probably sophyxiated on the bouncing that they had no idea she was fighting a monster? Was there a monster in this? One scene of the humanoids attacking and naked female victim on the beach was shot when the temperature was so cold enough that it was so excuse mean, was cold enough to turn the actress's lips blue. The makeup team kept having to make her lips pink. Again, that modern problems require modern solutions. Show business trade paper Variety said that this movie in nineteen eighty with Humanoids from the Deep, Roger Corman comes full circle back to his very first film as a producer, Monster Up from the Ocean Floor in nineteen fifty four, Despite costing one hundred times as much as the new pick has similar premise and same raisin raisond tier, raison debt detre, that of pocketing, Oh went to college, That of pocketing off profit of from driving dates with pictures having more nudity and gore than carried away by any exploitationer in recent memory. Yeah no, this movie's Balls to the Walls and lastly a sequel called Humanoids from the Deep two. The Next Generation, where the creatures had learned to talk, was planned and set to be released in nineteen ninety one by twenty first Century Film Corporation, but it never materialized. So that way, if that means that manahem would have gotten his hands on it, Yeah, it's hilarious. I want to know what that script looks like. I am honestly so shocked they never made a humanoid sequel. Yeah, I really am, because they set up one. Also, it's hilarious to call it the next Generation, like right in the middle of Star Trek the Next Generation. Yep. So what are your final thoughts on Humanoids from the Deep? Well, I mean I love the film. Yeah, I think that if you are a lover of exploitation cinema, if you are a lover of film history and a lover of Roger Corman, it's one thousand percent to buy it. Every addition that's ever been released on Blu ray of it is excellent. Yeah, worthy of being added to your collection. But if you're a casual viewer of horror movies and exploitation movies and stuff, it's definitely it's probably a stream it. It's probably this is the first time it's like it's extreme for me. I gave it. I gave it a stream it I said, I said, although it's a fun creature for feature, it's easy to tell I this movie is for you or isn't for you. It's that's classic Joe bobline. If it's it's that kind of thing you like, if you like that kind of thing, that's what he says. I say that. No to Jo Bob has said that too. I don't think. He says if you know what I mean, and I think you did, it says that. He also says that that kind of thing you like, if you like that kind of thing. He has said that. I've never heard him say it, has said that. I would remember because I say it all the time. I know you say it all the time. It's where I thought you got it from him. No, I got it from Abraham Lincoln. But the movie is really heavy on gore and sexual content. But if you're into the monster movies and you really love the exploitation movies of the seventies and the eighties, Niche, this is right up your alley. Hehuanoids from the Deep. I cannot recommend enough. I said it last week when we had announced it that it was kind of right up the alley of the Any fourteen year old boy would love it. In my opinion, I would say that's a fair point. Yeah, a fair assessment. Fair assessment indeed. So as we like to get out of here with a couple of recommendations as well, I've got to this week once again, sticking with Corman, let's go with nineteen seventy eights Piranha. When flesh eating piranhas are accidentally released into a summer resorts rivers, the guests become their next meal. I mean it's basically the same movie, basically the same movie. Yes, and second one I stuck with a monster theme and also feels like corman esque is Slugs from nineteen eighty eight Killer Slugs on a rampage in a rural community. If you haven't seen Slugs, it's probably gonna get talked on the show at some point. But I love that movie so much, I would say as a good monster palate cleanser, I would go with Tremors. That's a good one, uh, because you combat the pure sleeves and blood with something that's almost family friendly. Yeah. Also, Google has no example of Joe Barbriggs saying the kind of thing you like? If you like that kind of thing, well, I might. I don't know. Then I'm not trying to be mean. No, but fuck you. I swear, I swear I heard him say it. But it is what it is. Do you have another recommendation? Ers or just Tremors just saying you took the most obvious one with Piranya? Well, I mean, how can I not? Plus also that gives people an idea that we're not talking about Piranha on this show. Probably for this Corman sweet, well, probably not. Would you like to know what we're talking about next week? Oh? Are we gonna give it away? We'll give away this one, Okay, go for it? All right? So next week we are going to be diving into I believe it's Is it ninety three earlier? Is it earlier? Yeah? Eighty nine? I want to say ninety or ninety one. I feel like it's fun. Oh man, do you see how well he prepares cut up ninety ninety on the nose? Nineteen nineties Frankenstein Unbound, directed by Roger Corman, the final film he directed, starring John Hurt and Raul Julia and Raul Julius, sir, if you have not seen this movie, I will go ahead and also tease this that it may or may not be available on a website that has the initials of YT in its entirety. Yeah, it's hard to find, but also not hard to find. It hard to find, yes, if you know what I mean, and I think you do so. And it's a really fun one. It's highly underrated and the story of how Corman came about to it is very funny. Yeah, because Major Studio just offered him a shit ton of money to make a movie. We just went and did it. I mean it is. It's a movie that if you have not seen it, you really really owe it to yourself to check it out because the creativity behind it is a lot of fun in that story. Well, I am just a sucker for Raul Julia, absolutely so. And he's amazing in this as doctor Frankenstein. Yes, he is so. Well. I mean that's about it. 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