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May 6, 2025

Harriet the Spy (1996): Nickelodeon Nostalgia

Harriet the Spy (1996): Nickelodeon Nostalgia

Henrique and David honor Michelle Trachtenberg with Harriet the Spy (1996), Nickelodeon’s first theatrical feature and a thoughtful adaptation of Louise Fitzhugh’s novel. Directed by Bronwen Hughes, the film follows 11-year-old aspiring writer Harriet M. Welsch as she studies New York through a spy route and records unsparing observations in her notebook. Trachtenberg’s curious, impulsive Harriet is joined by Rosie O’Donnell as mentor Ole Golly, Gregory Smith as Sport and Vanessa Lee Chester as Janie.
The hosts explore why Harriet’s confidence collapses after classmates seize the private notebook and read its cruelest entries aloud. Sport and Janie feel betrayed, while controlling classmate Marion turns the fallout into a Spy Catcher Club. Harriet retaliates by cutting a classmate’s hair, sabotaging Janie’s experiment and targeting Sport and Marion where they are most vulnerable. The movie refuses to make an adult the villain: its conflict comes from children learning that honest observation does not excuse deliberate harm.
Ole Golly’s departure, Harriet’s loneliness and her parents’ imperfect attempts to help give the story unusual emotional weight for a family film. A returned Ole Golly teaches Harriet that individuality unsettles people, apologies matter and good friends are worth fighting for. Harriet then uses the class newspaper to look more closely at the neighbors she once reduced to punchlines, discovers context behind their lives and rebuilds trust with Sport and Janie through empathy rather than revenge.
Production and nostalgia talk covers Nickelodeon’s enormous marketing push, the orange VHS, the Hey Arnold! pilot shown with some theatrical screenings and Toronto and Florida locations used to create Harriet’s largely timeless city world. Trachtenberg chose Harriet over Matilda, began principal photography on her tenth birthday and later heard from viewers inspired to become writers. Hughes’s playful movement, music and visual design helped a young cast handle scenes that remain funny without flattening their pain.
The conversation keeps its personal texture through a pot-roast debate, Henrique’s memory of Nickelodeon visiting his elementary school and brief recorded reactions to The Accountant 2 and Until Dawn. Most importantly, the hosts trace Trachtenberg’s career full circle through her role as Dr. Wagner in the animated Harriet the Spy series, her final television appearance. Both give the film an emphatic buy-it verdict, arguing that its lessons about identity, accountability and kindness may resonate even more with adults.
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Paramount Pictures presents Harriot, Harriet, Curious Spine, Rosie O'Donnell, and

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introducing Michelle Trachtenberg in the first Motion Picture Problem Nickelodeona.

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This summer, See the World through the Eyes of the Spine, I.

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Gotcha, Harry It the Spy Grated PG. Come celebrate Nickelodeon's

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first movie this July at theaters everywhere in a world

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where podcasts reigned. Supreme Two Friends Dare to Ask?

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Do You Even?

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Movie hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie of ficionado

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David de Noyer.

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Spoiler alert. So my finger, this finger right here, you

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see it's the right one, Yeah, is finally almost normal

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after three and a half months, almost four months. Well,

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I I cut it real deep with my cooking, not

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my knife. It was the cleaver and it I mean

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like it literally looks like a surgical scar.

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I'm not just flipping when that happened.

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Hot. Yeah, And it's extra funny because like I cut

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my finger and immediately knew what I did. So I

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did what I was taught when I was a kid,

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which is you go straight to the sink and you

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run it underwater to make sure that everything's still attached,

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and if it isn't.

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You go to the hospital. At the hospital, yeah, so.

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Everything everything was attached, but it was a pretty bad one.

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So I had my finger in a towel and I

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held my hand on top of my head and finished, well, no, no,

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have you ever made pot rost? Well, my point is,

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if you want to make a great pot rost, not

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a not a good pot roast, because it's not hard

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to make a good pot rost. It's very hard to

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make a great pot roust. You have to sear it

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really well on every side. So I seared the pot

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roast with a hand on the top of my head,

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and it's just like cause you can't you can't stop

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mid seer, and I was halfway seared already, makes sense,

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So so I sat. I stood there, hand on top

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of my head, searing and going ah ah ah because

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it really hurt.

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That's usually what happens when you cut yourself.

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And then once the searing was done, I shut the

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heat off and then I went and I couldn't find

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super glue anywhere in the house, so I just bandaged

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as tight as I could and it stopped bleeding after

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about an hour, So that's fine.

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That's good.

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Yeah. This is why it's important and why I think

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every education system should include at least two classes of

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professional wrestling school, because if I had not went to

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professional wrestling school, I don't know that I could have

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stopped the bleeding as quickly as I did. That's fair,

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but it dug in so deep I cut about maybe

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a fifth of an inch below my cuticle that after

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it healed up and everything was looking good, about a

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month and a half later, my finger started swelling and

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I was like, oh, no, something bad's going on. It's

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infected or something. And I poked around and it hurt

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a little bit, and then I realized that it had

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cut the nail that hadn't grown out, so it had

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to pass through the cuticle, which caused a lot of

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pain for about a week. But then after it passed through,

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I just had to deal with having a giant slice

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out of my nail as it grew out. And last

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week it finally grew enough that I could cut that

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out and now I just have a very short nail,

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so hopefully it'll be a regular nail in another week.

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Do you remember when you came and hung out with

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me the day after I had my toenail surgery when

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I got that ingrown tonail issue removed, and then it

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turned out they actually didn't remove it, and then when

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I went back for my check out, they had to

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recut me right then and there. Oh yeah, yeah, because

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they didn't remove the route the first time.

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Well, you know.

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That's sucked because I had I had, just if I

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remember correctly, I had gone to work and left work

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to go to my appointment, thinking that they were going

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to be like, oh, yeah, everything looks fine. No, they

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just went straight ahead and cut me right again and

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just and took the what had grown and then the

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actual route out that second time.

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Well, I mean, would you rather they never get it

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done right? No?

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No, no I'm not. I'm not complaining in that regard.

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I'm more so complaining that it was just like you

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and I had had a day where it was just

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like I remember, like I had watched Diharvar avenge and

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shoot him up. I can't remember what we watched when

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you came over, but I remember those were the two

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I started with. And then yeah, it turned out that

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like literally a week later, had to go back for

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the check up and they were just like, oh, well,

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the root's still there, so we actually have to chop

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it once more. Again.

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This is what the doctors call a whoopsie duodle.

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Yeah, oh, they the one doctor was ripping on the

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other doctor because I went to I got to urgent

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care for the first time.

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I can't remember the first time you had it done?

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Was that urgent care?

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I can't remember, dude. It was either no, No, I

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went to Stanton. No, I went to my Actually, so

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I went to my doctor, but my doctor was not

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a like actual like foot doctor. And the second time

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I went to.

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You went to your GP. Yeah, your GP is not

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going to be a podiatrist.

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Yeah, because my podiatrist was giving my GP ship because

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he was just like, yeah, I can't believe he missed that.

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I'm never going to let him live that down.

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What your GP originally removed all of the toenail thought

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he did? Yeah, oh I thought that was like a surgery.

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No, that was it. That was outpatient.

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I mean, I mean, so was my my goal out patients?

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Well, but I mean like that was that was just

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that was not a hospital, like that was a legit

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doctor's office.

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Yeah. Then I'm not shocked the GP would slip up

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because it's not really there.

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I wasn't. I don't think I was when it happened.

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I remember just being frustrated because I was just like, cool,

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Now I got to walk up another flight of steps

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with my like my toe bandaged up and in this

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like shoe thing that had the exposure to it.

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Ah, but that's not that bad. You get to just

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pretend your foot is dark man.

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Yeah, that's great, West, like take the fucking left.

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Well, I'm happy that it's mostly healed.

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No, it's good.

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You know, the worst part about it was you don't

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realize how often you just stick your hand in things

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m until it either hurts or feels really weird every

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time you do. So, anytime I had to like dig

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around in a pocket or a drawer, it would hurt

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or just feel super weird.

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Yep, I can see that.

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And uh, not a huge fan, but I am very

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proud of how sharp I keep my cleaver because it

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really does look like a surgical scar.

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It is impressive, like it is so it is so

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the only scar I've got left. Yeah, the one I've

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got on my thumb. You can barely see it, but

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if you can see that line right there, that's when

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you remember my first apartment when I cut my finger

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really bad on those serrated blades.

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That's so cute. Yeah, how do you cut yourself bad

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on serrated blades?

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I was fucking doing the dishes and it cut through

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the sponge when I was washing the knife.

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Oh, so you were going and stupid? Yeh, yeh. That's

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and but that and that perfectly answers the question. Yes,

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serrated blades are saws basically, Oh, you have to move

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them back and forth. Yep. I tell you about how

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I scared my friend Jess because I was teaching her

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how knives work, and I decided, without any thought about

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how this looks or how it works, I did exactly

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how I was taught how knives work, yeah, which is

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I took my arm out, and I took the sharpest

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knife that we had just sharpened, and I put it

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right up against my forearm, blade down and pushed really hard.

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And she went, ah, which is what I did as

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a child. Did you add? I was like, see, it's

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the back and forth. Yep, that does it now? I

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mean you can cut, Yeah, you can, you can, but

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you would have to be pushing incredibly hard. Yeah, Because

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I was teaching her how to cut onions properly, and

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I noticed she was just pushing straight down and it

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was very difficult. It was giving her a lot of resistance.

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But it was funny, you know as she screamed and

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I was like, h that's how I reacted. I was

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seven or eight, but still is what it is. So yeah,

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that's that's something else.

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Well, I'm glad you're healing properly.

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Well, thank you.

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You are so welcome.

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No, it really was the worst was doing the oddities

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event because picking things up like you have to grip

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it hard and hurt your fingernail.

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I've ever told you about my least favorite thing to

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do when I have my job at FYE. So Fye

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has the title cards that go behind the movies so

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that you know what you're looking for. Well, when your Suncoast,

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you have to you get a lot of those because

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like some titles either go out of print, some go

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pulled and just you don't get back in stock. So

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we had hundreds of title cards that had to be

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pulled usually about about monthly, I would say, maybe every

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other couple of months, and that involved going through it

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and you know, pulling them out, which wasn't the issue.

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Where the issue came was pricing later on with the

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title cards. So when you would go to put new

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title cards in, you would have to either do the

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on sale or the new stickering. Well, then when the

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sale was over, you'd obviously have to take the stickers off.

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I can't tell you how many stickers I got underneath

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my nail, and I would just have those red marks,

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those black marks where you just got stabbed under the

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nail constantly when I was working that job.

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If only you could have had access to gloves.

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I didn't believe in them.

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That's fair, that's fair. There's a lot of things worth

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not believing in them. That's one of anyone wore gloves

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at that job for that for that particular, it'd be

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less of a literal pain.

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Toss hosk toss hosk. But no, that was That was

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probably my least favorite, next to UH because I love recall.

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Recall was always something I actually enjoyed.

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I was always more a total recall, total recall.

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I actually so when we still had the FYE in

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Piqua near me, the guys that worked there would call

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me up when they did recall because they knew I

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love doing it, and like we're just like we'll give

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you like pizza, and like, Doude, you really like doing this,

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Like are you being serious with us? And I was like, yeah,

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give me a clip bar, give me some titles.

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Just dialing the police.

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I don't know what it was. I loved about it,

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but yeah, I mean it was just like if I

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got if I had that list and I had to

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basically scavenger hunt these things, which at Suncoast, they would

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end up in some different place, like places you wouldn't expect.

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Yeah. Well, when you have hundreds of uniform goods mm hmm,

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then it's very easy for them to get mixed up.

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I imagine it was similar to what it was like

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when I worked at Spencer's with T shirts. Oh yeah,

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because you know when it gets folded up real quick

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and dirty, they're all just black squares on top of

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each other.

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The bargain DVDs those basically all have the same z

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like all the same barcode on them. So when you

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have your list, you see its bargain bargain, bargain bargain,

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and then it has the title actually after it. So

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you would have to go through every single like there

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we had three places that they'd put bargain DVDs because

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we had the back wall that had like five or

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six shelves of them, had the car out front that

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had the that had them all on the pile and everything,

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and then we had someone on the other side too,

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So we're like three different spots that I had to

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go to to hunt down the bargain titles, which the

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bargain titles were always like at least two and a

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half pages long, So you're talking about like one hundred

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and fifty that you got a poll.

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Well, I'm sure they got ditched a lot because people

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would pick them up with like a sense of you

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know that what's that called like impulse? Yeah, but then

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if they shopped long enough, they might be like, oh,

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never mind, I want this full price item. I don't

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want to fuck with this five dollars dollars, like I

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don't want it anymore. Well, the best was we would.

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Have the we'd have the Canadian releases of so like

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you would have like you know, the the US release

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of Pirate Radio was fourteen ninety nine, whereas this bargain

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copy was like five ninety seven, and like the only

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thing that was different was it had French on it,

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because it was those ones that were interchangeable, or they

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had all the stuff on the front.

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Yeah, like my first copy of Night of the dmons

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three three yep. And I think that was the case

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for one of my am for my Amityville nineteen ninety

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two DVD wouldn't surprise me was also a Canadian.

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Yeah, I've gotten a couple. Like I remember when I

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was working that job, I would pull a lot of

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those to take home personally too, because those bargain DVDs

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were the way to go, because, like I mean, you

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didn't have to pay the whole price that we were charging.

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Because as much as I loved f Ye and Sun

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Coast prices are a little high.

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It's almost like that overhead. Yeah, it's almost like they

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had to pay your lame mass. It should have been

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like work here for free.

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You'd be like, okay, dude, thirty percent discount on used

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it was what would do me in half the time?

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I believe that. Yeah. It's like my buddy who worked

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at a gun shop. He was like, oh, I'm part

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time here, and I was like really he was like yeah,

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because I spend every penny I make here buying guns

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on the discount because the employee discounts are really good.

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Yeah, if I had not bought a single thing at

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my Foye job, I probably would have had so much

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money when I left there after like three years, three

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and a half, four years.

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I mean in defense of that job. That's the case

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with everything. Yeah, I mean that X, Y, and Z,

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But I mean money.

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You don't put the drug addict in charge of counting

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the drugs.

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No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't recommend it, but that's on

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your supervisor. Yeah, they're the stupid ones.

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I was a great employee for that matter, because I'd

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put my money right back into the company.

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Yeah, you put your money where your mouth was as

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you gratched your neck and went oh.

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The best was like we would have people coming coming

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in to do you buy or like to sell stuff

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and whatnot. And I'm not going to name names, but

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there was a certain manager that I had that actually

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got let go of because of this. And I may

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have said this on the show already, but like our

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system would tell us what we had, like what we

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what we could offer for the item, like the top

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thing like with PONND stars, like making the offer, we

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would have the top price, and that was the price

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that we had. So, like for example, like if somebody

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brought in the original Alien Blu ray set, like that

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was Alien one through Resurrection. Mm hmm, I think we

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gave ten bucks for that in cash, and by that point,

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like it was this sixty dollars box set. Still. Yeah,

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so I remember like I offered the guy fifteen and

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he took it. That sounds right, I mean that was

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that that became like a regular practice. Thing was just

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looking at the stack that they brought it in and

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being like, hmm, what do I want?

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David? What the hell are you doing?

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I'm vaping?

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Why the hell are you vaping?

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Because I can I.

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Mean, you didn't ask permission. You're is not a this

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is a smoke environment. I'm gonna get a sign made

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that says this is a smoking environment that's free, just

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to remove the free. What do you what? What is

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it so painful doing the show? You have to vape

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your way through it?

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No, I just wanted to take a small hit. No

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telling what my what is in my vape?

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I'm pretty sure everybody knows.

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I'm sure everybody knows.

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Well, you see unlike you. I'm smoking a Las Caravras,

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which is a cigar specifically for honoring the dead. Fair

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because I was trying to give a crap about your

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your concept for the month.

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I mean, I'm smoking a super lemon haze.

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That made it so much worse. Why I told you, like,

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I'm smoking a super lemon haze. It makes all the

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people who've died glad they're not here anymore.

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But yes, we are talking about May they Rest in

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Peace month? That is correct, and I appreciate your attention

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to the theme of the month.

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That was Actually I mean I have that I've been

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saving up over the years. I actually won a five

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pack of year's worth of these. They released a new

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one every year, and I didn't know I won because

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Brian and Gonzo at my cigar lounge forgot. And then

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on New Year's Eve they're like, hey, by the way,

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they gave it this big bag. It might have even

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been eight Actually it was a huge bag. And and

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by the way, these are not cheap.

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I think it was said New Year's Eve because I

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thought we were there when they gave this.

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That was New Year's Eve?

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Did you win something else that they forgot to give

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it to you because we were at the lounge and

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they brought us that.

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Wasn't like a big thing, it was. It was a

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small thing. Yeah, Or it might have been Jeff won

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something when we were there.

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It was either Jeff Jeff went into his locker and

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found those cigars one time. I can't remember if he

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won something.

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O just say, I mean it's possible, but this was

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like winning eight of these. I mean, these are expensive

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cigars when they're in in manufacture, and when they're not there,

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they they they don't even get that expensive. They just

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become impossible to get so because the idea is is

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that you buy last year's as well, and YadA, YadA, YadA.

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It's a whole whole thing. So a fiasco for a

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second thing, said bs Go. I was like, yes, David,

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honoring the dead is a BSEs But speaking of the dead, Yes,

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we just got back from seeing until Dawn we did,

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which we got a nice four D experience right before

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we went to it by having a massive rain storm.

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That I drove through to get to your house.

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Did you have one earlier in the day or did that?

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Yeah, we had we had one, so I was inside

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at work obviously, So when it hit, we just heard

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like we heard it, you know, what was going on outside.

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I didn't get to actually see it, but I think

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you got it way.

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Well, Oh we did it. No, I was recording, I'm

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not kidding. I was recording a podcast in my office

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with my foam and my sound blankets and everything. I

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had to stop recording because the rain and thunder was

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so loud. Yeah, that I couldn't cut it out. Now. Granted,

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you know, when we're doing a podcast like this, there's latitude,

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there's room to run a noise reducer if you need to.

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People aren't expecting whisper quiet. But when you're doing Weekly Spooky, yeah,

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you need the quietest space you can get. Yet out

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of the atmosphere, it's all about you and the listener

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and nothing else. Yeah, So it's intimate. That's a good

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way to put it. So that's how loud it was.

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When I got to my favorite Contra lane, I was

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beside it. I was not in it.

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He's never gonna let that go, yeah, But when I got.

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There, that's why I lost his ability. Like my my

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windshield wipers couldn't keep up with the rain on that

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way over.

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Do your wipers need to be replaced as well.

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No, because remember I did right before SEVERER TAXI.

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Oh yeah, you did, good, good on you.

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No.

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No, because I often am like, ah, hell well, I

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mean I need new wipers.

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You've been in my car when I have this smear

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smear smear smear story.

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The funniest example of like, I hope you're happy you

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just saved you know, eighteen dollars.

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Yeah.

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Was one time I was going to Pittsburgh to screen

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Depression the movie alongside Eddie Presley at the Hollywood Theater

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in Dormont, Pennsylvania. And that was a hilarious situation. By

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the way, they finally booked it and had it ready.

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And my dumbass boss at my job, a man who

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has so few genitals that when you're in the room

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with him you actually lose a testicle until you get

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away from him or there's a doorway between you or

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a priest. I had come to him and said, with

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about two weeks notice, I was like, Hey, they're showing

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my movie in Pittsburgh, and they're showing it with one

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of my favorite movies of all time. It's really important

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to me. It's on Thursday. I usually work a short

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shift on Thursday, so I need that day off, and

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I kid you not. He was like, well, I mean,

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we'll see what we could do. And I went and

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I literally, well there's a whole lot more. But I said.

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I was like, hey, that's cool, but like I won't

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be here, Like I'm not trying to be a jerk,

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but like I won't be here it's too important.

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Yeah.

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There was also one time when one of my movies

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was in the newspaper and my direct supervisor was looking

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at it and he was all like pumping it up

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and being all proud, and then asshole main boss came

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by and was like, looks at it. He's like, I

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know she didn't mention your job. I don't want to

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say the.

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Place I remember that.

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Well, wait, I could say, now he's retired, Yeah, he's

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gone Date Axis Television. I worked there full time. I

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will not full time enough to have insurance a nonprofit

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work gotta love it. But so he was like, you

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didn't mention datv in this And I literally turned to

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him and I was like, you almost didn't give me

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the time off to go to the premiere to advertising. Yeah,

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and actually the two premieers before that, I would get

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off work at eight thirty. The premieres were at ten.

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I would run to the theater as fast as I

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could do the screening, get home at one thirty, go

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to sleep, and have to be in at nine because

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I worked Saturdays for a couple of years straight. So

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my point be that on the way to Pittsburgh, I

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my windshield wipers were not they needed to be replaced,

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and I was very bad about those things. So we're

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driving back from Pittsburgh. It's the middle of the night

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and we start getting icy rain, not like so icy

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your car's gonna slide, but like rain is hitting the

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windshield and it's freezing a little bit, and you gotta

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get it out of the way. And my windshield wipers

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was and it comes back and the little strip of

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squeegee was just gone. So now it's either not touching

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anything or it's scratching. It's not, so we had to

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I was like I was there with my girlfriend at

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the time, and I was like, no worry, no panic,

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and she was like, well, what what what I mean?

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Like you can't see. I was like, I'm turning the

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heat all the way up and putting everything through the defrosters.

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We're gonna pull over until the defrosters defeat the ice.

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Yeah.

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So that took about ten minutes and then we just

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zipped right back. But I remember that was one of

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those moments in my life where I was like, you know,

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if you would actually wait the benefit of that sixteen

471
00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:16.960
dollars you were waiting to spend against the negative, you

472
00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:24.119
would maybe be one Hamburger meal shot, but you could

473
00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:25.839
have been able to see the road in the middle

474
00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:27.599
of the night while you were driving. There is that

475
00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:31.799
they ever tell you that story about the car car stuff?

476
00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:36.559
I find. I had a very old car for a while.

477
00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:38.720
I had a two thousand Volkswagen Beetle that I got

478
00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:40.720
when I was five years old, and I put two

479
00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:44.880
hundred thousand miles on it just about and I took

480
00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:47.359
I wouldn't say great care of the car, but I

481
00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:50.039
mean I kept that car in working order until the

482
00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:53.359
computer failed. Like I kept it in very good shape

483
00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:55.000
in that way. It was ready to run for a

484
00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:58.400
long time until that happened. But one time one of

485
00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:02.440
my back running lights was out and I was like,

486
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.039
oh my god, because I was broke and I was

487
00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:05.480
living in Jersey at the time. And I was like,

488
00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:08.079
I just can't deal with this, Like it's not illegal

489
00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:09.920
for me not to have the running light. I'm just

490
00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:12.880
gonna leave it be. And some friends had even said like, well,

491
00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:15.240
you know, those running lights come in really handy when

492
00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:18.880
you desperately need people to see you because they're extra

493
00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:20.920
extra light. And I was like, yeah, I know, I know,

494
00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:24.920
but like I just can't deal with this. So a

495
00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:28.559
year goes by, maybe a little more, and it's at

496
00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:31.200
my mechanic getting some work that it needed done done

497
00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:33.759
and they call me and they're like, hey, so this

498
00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:36.599
and this is looking pretty good. Should be done on

499
00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:39.279
the timeframe we told you, but we noticed your running

500
00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:42.440
light is out. Yeah, And I was like, oh yeah, yeah,

501
00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.559
I'd noticed that. Yeah. And they were like, well, do

502
00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:46.440
you want us to replace it? And I was like, well,

503
00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:48.160
how much was that is that going to cost? And

504
00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:50.160
I kid, you know, he was like about nine nine

505
00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:54.200
fifty and I was like, yeah, go and go ahead

506
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:55.119
and do it. Let's gohe and do that.

507
00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:55.440
Yeah.

508
00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:56.920
So he's like, all right, well i'll get you. I'll

509
00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:59.200
give you a call in an hour or so when

510
00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:01.759
I have the final quote for everything all together. Yeah,

511
00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:04.480
I was like, great, calls me an hour later, and

512
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.559
this is the best part. Calls me an hour later

513
00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:08.680
and he's like, all right, everything's looking the same, Like

514
00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:10.359
the prices are all basically the same as what we

515
00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:14.640
quoted you, but that running light and I was like yeah,

516
00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:18.240
and he was like, well, the casing for it had

517
00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.640
got water in it, so the casing's damaged, so that

518
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.359
needs to be replaced as well. And I was like, right,

519
00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:26.440
and how much is that going to cost? He was like, oh,

520
00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:29.559
twenty one dollars and I was like, oh, that's not bad,

521
00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:31.599
So twenty one dollars. And then the bulb and he's like, oh,

522
00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:35.559
that's a tool thing, and I was like, man, I

523
00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:37.599
hope that twenty one dollars I saved for a year

524
00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.359
and a half was freaking worth it. So my point

525
00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:44.079
is the best advice I give about cars or about

526
00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:47.839
like taking care of yourself, your health, whatever, just if

527
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.319
you know something's coming, even if you're going to put

528
00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:52.359
it off, just find out what it's going to cost,

529
00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:54.880
because you never know when you're going to realize that

530
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:58.319
you put yourself out a lot to save almost nothing.

531
00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:00.200
Well, it's like I've got I've got two denk was

532
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:01.880
coming and I was worried that the price was going

533
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.319
to be like a thousand plus each one of them.

534
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:06.240
But luckily with my insurance, it's only gonna be about

535
00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:07.640
five sixty altogether.

536
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:09.599
I mean that is good. But also you just you

537
00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:10.480
need to be able to chew.

538
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:14.400
Oh yeah, so you know, and I don't feel like

539
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:15.680
buying veneers just yet.

540
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.279
Well, I have a saying, which is, if the bill

541
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.480
can fit on a care credit card, you should be thankful. Yeah.

542
00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:23.279
Of course that was before I had a care credit

543
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.720
card that held almost thirty thousand dollars in veterinary debt.

544
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:28.920
Yeah. I was gonna say, yeah, but that's not a

545
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:31.279
story for today. No, no it's not. But anyway, yes,

546
00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:32.240
Until Dawn we.

547
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:36.039
Went to the theater in the pouring rain and saw

548
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:38.319
Until Don. It was very four D because Until Don

549
00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:42.519
opens in a thunderstorm. Yeh, very fun. As far as

550
00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:46.720
the movie goes loosely based on the Sony video game,

551
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.559
very loosely, yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean I think

552
00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:53.440
they would even say that openly. Yeah, which is a

553
00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:56.759
classic for those who don't know the video game Until

554
00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.920
Dawn is literally a video game tea horror.

555
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:02.359
Movie basically, and choose your own adventure.

556
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.039
Yeah, yeah, that's well, I mean that's a video game. Yeah,

557
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.640
is you usually play video games?

558
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:09.880
Yeah, I mean you could. You could argue that yes

559
00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:12.079
and no. But I mean that specifically is one where

560
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:15.359
you have choices to make, like it presents you with choices.

561
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:17.240
Not those games have choices.

562
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:18.960
Not in the sense of like that like you literally

563
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:20.720
have to choose one or the other, like what I'm saying,

564
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:22.240
Like it gives you the option on the screen like

565
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:24.400
Red Dead more so, I mean, yeah you have you

566
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:26.359
have that too, but like is more open map and

567
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:28.039
stuff like that's immediately what I'm thinking of.

568
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.319
Oh sure, sure, well it's just it's but it is

569
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:32.960
also a game. There's like you play it as well.

570
00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:35.440
It's not just watching cut scenes and choosing things, which

571
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.119
there are games like that. Telltale Games makes some really

572
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.079
fun games where all you do is choose mostly what's

573
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:43.759
coming next where wolf among us or Wolf among Us

574
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:46.079
which was really fun. Yeah, super good.

575
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:46.880
I've played that one.

576
00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:51.759
So anyway, it's not that much like the game in

577
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:54.480
that it doesn't have the snowy locale, it doesn't have

578
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:57.960
the same characters. It has a similar vibe of like

579
00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:00.880
this group of teenagers end up in this decrepit place,

580
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:03.880
but then it goes into this whole time shifting thing

581
00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:06.839
where when everybody dies, the clock resets and you have

582
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:07.920
to survive until dawn.

583
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:10.680
But you have all your memories of previously what has happened.

584
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:12.880
And some injuries from it as well, and you start

585
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:14.920
to turn into something which we don't want to spoil that.

586
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.039
I will say, while I did not feel like this

587
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.039
film set my world to blaze in a good way,

588
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.119
it was a lot of fun to watch a silly

589
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:28.160
horror movie like that in the theater. It was very bloody,

590
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:32.319
very gross. There were a few gross out moments that

591
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:35.720
actually surprised me absolutely. Man, you could really our ratings

592
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:39.799
basically mean anything now, like for real, because we saw

593
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.839
like a full blown head smash, and like they didn't

594
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.519
cut away or anything. They like showed the insides of

595
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:46.000
the skull.

596
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:48.960
I mean we saw multiple human bodies and parts and

597
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:50.839
insides just go everywhere.

598
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:57.000
But I did enjoy it. I I don't think I

599
00:26:57.119 --> 00:26:59.160
missed something, but I felt like the ending didn't make

600
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.960
a ton of sense certain ways. Yeah, I mean it did,

601
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.160
but then when I was looking back, I was like,

602
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:05.680
how does this all relate.

603
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:08.519
I'm genuinely curious how much was cut out of the movie,

604
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:10.160
because I mean the movie is at an hour and

605
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.240
forty three minute runtime, so I mean we're right under

606
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:12.799
two hours.

607
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:14.200
Oh wow. I thought it was shorter than that.

608
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.160
No, So I'm curious as to what it was, because

609
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.599
it did feel like towards the end we really started

610
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:21.319
speeding things up, and.

611
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.640
I thought it was I thought it was speeded up

612
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:24.519
from the start.

613
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:26.359
It's more so that I'm still, like I said, like

614
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:29.200
the thing the spoiler alert, there's one point where we

615
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.319
jumped from they've done this four days to the last night,

616
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:33.680
which is the thirteenth night.

617
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.759
Which was they ended up playing it off to where

618
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.519
it was actually kind of cool. But at first I

619
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:42.720
was kind of like, ah, yeah, come on, I kind

620
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:44.920
of wish they'd played into the humor a little bit more.

621
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:46.400
I was kind of expecting them to.

622
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.960
Well, because once you see them die like the third

623
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.519
fourth time, yeah, it's a lot less scary that they're

624
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:52.000
gonna die.

625
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.880
I mean the movie felt like a culmination of Cabin

626
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:57.559
in the Woods meets Happy Death Day is how I

627
00:27:57.759 --> 00:27:58.839
is how I kind of felt with it.

628
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:01.920
I just I think any horror movie with time shifting

629
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:02.799
is Happy Death Day.

630
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.240
I mean, there's a lot of like they said in

631
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.759
the movie, there's a lot of movies that do that,

632
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.039
but Happy Death Day is one in the last decade

633
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.319
that has really really nailed that well.

634
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.079
I tried not to burst out laughing because there was

635
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.240
a part where somebody says, like in that movie that

636
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:18.720
does that, and one of the characters goes, there are

637
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:20.559
a lot of movies that do that. That part's kind

638
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.559
of funny. Yeah, But what made me laugh was when

639
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.680
they said that. I imagined the guy who's kind of

640
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:30.640
an outsider character. I imagine him going Captain Ron, and

641
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.519
for some reason, like just popped in. I know. That's

642
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.359
why the face you're making is my point. That's why

643
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.400
it made me laugh internally, because I picked. I was

644
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.160
just like, I gotta pick, Like there are like ten choices,

645
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.640
you know, Edge of Tomorrow, Happy Death Day, Groundhog Day,

646
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:46.960
Polm Springs.

647
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.359
Still not on Blue ray by the way, Palm Springs, No,

648
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:50.079
Captain Ron.

649
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:51.720
Oh that's surprising.

650
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.119
No, you can. You can get it HD on Voodoo,

651
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:55.519
but yeah, not on Blue ray still.

652
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.799
But I just thought it'd be funny to give like

653
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:01.200
the absolute wrongest answer, Yeah, but what about your thoughts

654
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:01.440
on it?

655
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.799
I had fun with it. I think, like I told

656
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.160
you in the theater, I think seeing it once is

657
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.839
good for me personally. I thought the monsters were great.

658
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.440
I thought the characters, like, none of the characters bothered me,

659
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:13.960
and I was really grateful.

660
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.279
With that, to be honest, how would they bother you?

661
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:19.559
Bad writing? Not likable that sort of thing, Like the

662
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:21.279
characters were, but were all likable.

663
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:22.799
I thought they were believable.

664
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.920
Yeah, I'm believable, and also like they kept you wondering

665
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.279
what was going on. My biggest beef is the way

666
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.200
that they explained the ending, and also just some technical

667
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.400
choices they took with the story basically.

668
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:36.440
Yeah, yeah, they and they tied some stuff together that

669
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.519
I think may have actually hurt the movie instead of

670
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:40.119
making it better.

671
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.359
Well, and like I told you off Mike and the

672
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:43.400
way on the way back, it's there were certain pieces

673
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:44.680
of the game that I was kind of hoping they

674
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:46.240
would incorporate in the movie. And I know they can't

675
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.079
put everything in the movie obviously with the but having

676
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:51.880
the totems as part of the game was always a

677
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:53.559
great fun part of that game, sure.

678
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:55.680
Because it gives you, well, it gives you potential for

679
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:56.599
shadows exactly.

680
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:58.559
Yeah, and I wish they would have done something with that.

681
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.119
But I mean, at the same time, like they completely

682
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.000
changed everything up.

683
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:06.440
Yeah, it's not much like Until Dawn at all. I

684
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.160
will say, I think I might have liked the movie

685
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.039
more if they had not done the time shift part

686
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:11.319
at all.

687
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:13.440
I think it was an odd choice, to be honest.

688
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:16.400
I think they were trying to give us something, some

689
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:19.599
more oomph. Yeah, because what Until Dawn the video game

690
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:25.200
had was an insane amount of twists and turns, fake outs, surprises.

691
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:28.920
But what else it also had was like a twelve

692
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:29.599
hour playtime.

693
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:31.640
Yeah, it was all It happened in one night and

694
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:33.759
you had to survive the night, which they do that

695
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.440
in this movie. But where I really really feel it

696
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:39.720
got missed was it was just like the because you

697
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.680
got to restart everything and do the Edge of Tomorrow

698
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:44.799
and Crownhog's Day and Happy Death Day, the seriousness of

699
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:46.880
their deaths started half, or the series of their death

700
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:47.720
got less and less.

701
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.359
Yeah, and the danger just wasn't there, yeah, because I

702
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:52.160
mean and yeah, but I mean I got a sense

703
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:53.640
of danger at the idea like this will be our

704
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:54.240
last time.

705
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.960
Well, it genuinely had too like jump scares that I really.

706
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.799
There were really really good jump scares in it, although

707
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.119
the scariest one was straight out of the video game.

708
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:02.960
Oh yeah.

709
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.920
I was kind of literally lifted from it.

710
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.039
Not surprised, but it was just like it was just like,

711
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:09.440
oh yeah, they did that exactly the video game.

712
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:10.279
There was a good scared.

713
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:11.960
There was like two of those actually, and I think about.

714
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:13.920
It, there was one for sure that I literally sure

715
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.039
that I know that happened exactly that way in the.

716
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.279
Game, peeking through the door. Yeah yeah, yeah.

717
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.319
But overall it really was fun.

718
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:21.880
It's fun.

719
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.640
I didn't feel like having played until Dawn really had

720
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.000
much of an effect either way. I didn't. It didn't

721
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.640
hurt the experience, it didn't improve it much at all.

722
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:33.960
I mean, you there were a few easter eggs where

723
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.599
you'd be like ah, but that was that was about

724
00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:39.440
all you got. So, I mean, if you love horror movies,

725
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:41.759
you would be stupid not to go see this movie

726
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.319
because it is super fun. Also, you should support a

727
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.839
teen slasher movie in the theater if you want to

728
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.720
see more teen slasher movies exactly, because they generally don't

729
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.960
get a lot of love in the theater anymore. And

730
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.359
of course, you know, aside from your remakes and your

731
00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:58.680
big reboots and stuff.

732
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.960
You said the budget was low. They say it's fifteen

733
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:03.039
on IMDb.

734
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:03.640
That is low.

735
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.079
Well, no, that's low. But I said like nine in

736
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:06.359
the car and you see, yah, I said maybe.

737
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.920
I said maybe. I didn't say yeah because I thought

738
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:10.960
it's not like it was asking about a Harriet the

739
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:11.640
Spy blu Ray.

740
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:13.759
Well, regardless, it's not done too bad.

741
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.920
You're right, No, it's doing all right. If it has

742
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.319
good word of mouth, it'll it'll really be able to

743
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:20.559
kick it into high gear the way Sinners kicked it

744
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.160
into high gear. Because it had a pretty good, pretty

745
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.359
damn good opening weekend, but it kept going.

746
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.359
It seems like everybody's kind of on the same page

747
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:29.319
with until Dawn from what I've seen review wise so

748
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.640
far and rating wise, so I think I think it

749
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.720
has potential to keep pushing. I just wish it was

750
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:36.400
a little bit better.

751
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.440
I haven't really heard anybody hate on it.

752
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:39.839
No, I haven't heard like straight of hate.

753
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.799
So oh, well, what have you? That was that was loaded?

754
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:44.319
I mean that that's it. I haven't heard any straight

755
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.880
of Pat. I've heard basically that it's it's a fun movie,

756
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:48.079
but it doesn't reinvent the wheel.

757
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:51.799
No, no it doesn't. I mean it was trying to

758
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.880
be something different, which is nice. I mean, it's never

759
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.000
hurt to try it'll be different.

760
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.039
But I would also say that we had a lot

761
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.279
more fun on our movie we saw before this one

762
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:03.920
over the weekend. Oh, the Accountant Too.

763
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.119
The Accountant to was a friggin blast, Yes it was.

764
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.319
I actually last night watched Accountant again, did you? Because

765
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:13.559
I was showing Rachel she'd never seen it, and you know,

766
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:15.839
The Accountant Too is a ton of fun. I'm so

767
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.119
glad we got that sequel. I never imagined we would

768
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.880
get a sequel like that to The Accountant, because The

769
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.000
Accountant was a flick we saw in the theater and

770
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.559
it stayed with me. I remember when I saw it

771
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:29.720
came out on home to rent on digital and stuff.

772
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.400
I remember going I want to watch it again and

773
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:36.279
checking it out again. It's a really cool concept. The

774
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.279
sequel is definitely way more into having fun as to

775
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:43.039
where the first Accountant was all about establishing world building

776
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:44.960
and the character heavily.

777
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:46.000
And all that.

778
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:50.839
This one is very much playing up buddy cop cop. Yeah,

779
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:56.400
Frank Rillo and Ben Affleck play brothers. Well, what I said,

780
00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:02.119
Frank Grill they're both really good actors, They're both great

781
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.400
in action movies, and they both have at the same

782
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:04.759
period of.

783
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.359
We need a movie where Grillo and burnt All play brothers.

784
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:11.280
What we need a movie where Burnhal and Grillo play brothers.

785
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:13.719
So I would love that. Yeah, but uh, but they're

786
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:18.159
they're chemistry rough. They were barely in the first Accountant

787
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.000
in the same scene. Yeah, but in this movie there

788
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.880
together a lot, a lot, and their chemistry is off

789
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:26.840
the charts. Yeah. So that's a really fun one to see.

790
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.719
It's a lot of fun and hell in theaters.

791
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:33.119
Great action sequences, a new characters that really worked out

792
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:36.440
well too, I would say. And also I really really

793
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.639
loved the I want to say too much, but I

794
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:42.840
love the inner workings of the company that hires Affleck.

795
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.119
That getting to see all that stuff this time around.

796
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.199
Yeah. Yeah, they did build the world a little bit more.

797
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.079
It just the stakes didn't feel quite as intense as

798
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.119
the first one. Yeah, but that's I think that's a

799
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.119
sequel thing. Yeah, especially with action.

800
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.760
Honestly, too, they they gave you a lot upfront with

801
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:01.719
the JK. Simmons introduction scene that kind of spread the

802
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:03.639
pieces out until we could put them back together a

803
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:05.519
little more, because it was kind of like there was

804
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.360
multiple stories almost going on, but they all actually interconnected

805
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:09.360
into one towards the end.

806
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.159
Yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah. So yeah, the

807
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:14.559
Accountant hell of a lot of fun, a lot of fun,

808
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.599
super duper fun. Yes, And apparently we're getting Clown in

809
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.760
the Cornfield like next week asap.

810
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.679
Yeah, next week, and then well as recording this next

811
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.679
week and then the following no, next week is no.

812
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.000
The following week after Clown in the Cornfield is Final Destination.

813
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.599
So we've got two big horror releases back to back

814
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:33.559
in May.

815
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:35.960
Which I mean, I get why they didn't want them

816
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.400
to like come out the same weekend. Yeah, yeah, May ninth.

817
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:43.079
The Cornfield yep. And then the thirteenth is or sixteenth

818
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:44.119
is a Final Destination.

819
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.639
So and then not only that, we also have a

820
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.280
remake of I Know What You Did last Summer coming until,

821
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.400
which is a requel apparently.

822
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.000
Yes, legacy sequel, requel, whatever you want to call it.

823
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:56.639
Ye, yeah, I didn't realize it was that, yeah until

824
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.000
I well, I saw the trailer for the first time

825
00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:58.559
to what's.

826
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.639
Funny is I have given My memory is shit sometimes,

827
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:04.159
but I have memory of Sarah Michelle Geller's signing onto

828
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.559
the movie, but we only saw her one picture. And

829
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.440
also she's technically dead in that series, unless she's playing

830
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:11.079
a new character or ghosts.

831
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:14.920
That could be who still ages. I guess she's not

832
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.519
listed on the credits on Wikipedia.

833
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.719
Yeah, I guess it could just be my brain summoning

834
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.840
those Bronze and Stunt Doubles, those Cannibals and Invaders of

835
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.079
the Lost Goal. That Harriet the Spy Blu.

836
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:33.679
Ray Final Destinations May sixteenth. Yeah, and that Final Destinations

837
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:35.800
May sixteen. I got myself concious, and I know what

838
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:36.840
you did last summer is.

839
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:41.519
In July July sixteenth or July fifteenth, I can't remember.

840
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.400
Now, it's somewhere in there. I was just I just

841
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:46.239
got curious and then I threw my brain. July eighteenth, eighteenth. Okay,

842
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:50.719
So a lot of really great horror releases, unfortunately or well,

843
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:54.320
I mean it's exciting, yeah, but you know, it can

844
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:58.360
be a little exhausting getting all these legacy sequels. I

845
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.360
kind of in some ways feel like we're back to

846
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:03.239
the two thousands when we were doing that all the time.

847
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.920
There's definitely a lot of content on the market right

848
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.480
now that's that's legacy sequel and then direct to video

849
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:12.960
is not direct video but direct to streaming squel and whatnot.

850
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.159
And I mean it can be a bit exhausting, but

851
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.599
I will say I am happy to go see these

852
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:18.000
in theaters.

853
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:19.559
Like final scene sounds like it'll be black.

854
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:21.679
I haven't seen a File Destination movie in theaters since

855
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.320
what would have been the Final Destination because I didn't

856
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.519
see five in theaters. Oh so I saw four in four.

857
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:29.079
I was actually the only one I've seen in theaters

858
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:30.920
so far. And I think about it, Oh wow, yeah

859
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:34.039
wow yeah. And then in regards to I Know what

860
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.000
you did last summer, I haven't seen any of them

861
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:36.840
until this one.

862
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.559
In the theater. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna say,

863
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.840
we say we covered it. Yeah, because you still want

864
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.320
to need it watch all always again, and I luckily

865
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.119
I have my birthday movie you can't wait, So can't wait.

866
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:50.880
Nothing happens in that fucking movie.

867
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.079
Oh we'll see if that's true.

868
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.719
Okay, I put it on my goddamn watch this on

869
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.559
letterbox because of you. I want you to know that,

870
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.519
which means there's potential that in my scored it could

871
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.159
get a sign to me for mandatory film school, in

872
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:03.039
which case I'm gonna cry.

873
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:04.519
Who do I bribe to make that happen?

874
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:06.079
Good luck? I ain't telling you shit.

875
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.880
Oh, I'll find out. I always find out, David.

876
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.440
So, would you like to get into the movie that

877
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:13.800
we are talking about tonight? Good sir, I suppose.

878
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:18.960
So this is a film that hit me very well

879
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.920
when I was a young man, and I watched it

880
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:26.159
a lot. Yeah, I rented the tape a lot, and

881
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:30.639
then it was on it was on HBO, I think

882
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.000
it was a lot of places. Yeah, and then eventually

883
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:35.719
Nickelodeon would run it, but that took a few years. Yeah,

884
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.960
because this was one of the first big Nickelodeon theatrical releases.

885
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.920
I seem to remember the premiere on NICK when they

886
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:45.599
actually aired it, and I want to say that was

887
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:46.360
like ninety nine.

888
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.239
Yeah, that would be right, because it was nineteen ninety

889
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:53.199
six when this film, Yeah, Harriet the Spy was put

890
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:57.519
out and it's currently streaming on Paramount Plus. That is correct,

891
00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:59.760
And you can also, of course rent it, or buy

892
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:04.239
it wherever you enjoy your digital rental.

893
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:05.079
Movies digital only.

894
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:09.280
No Blu Ray available, Nope, much to your shock and chagrin.

895
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:11.800
Dude, I swear it was announced. I swear it was

896
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.000
announced because we've gotten most of the Nick movies on

897
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.960
Blu Ray at this point of this era of Nick movies, right.

898
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:19.400
But yeah, I'm surprised this one has not. But yeah.

899
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.480
Harriet The Spy from nineteen ninety six, one hour and

900
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:26.559
forty minutes, rated PG for mild language and some thematic elements.

901
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.440
IMDb synopsis says, Harriet m. Welsh is a spy, but

902
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.880
when her friends find her secret notebook, the tables are

903
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.119
turned on her. Can she win them back and still

904
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:36.599
keep on going with the spy business?

905
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.079
That is not a very good It's not great. That's

906
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.639
not a good tag or a good synopsis at all.

907
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.360
My synopsis. When eleven year old Harriet decides to become

908
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.679
a spy, spending days on the street, scoping out locals

909
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.639
and snooping on her sixth grade classmates, Harriet's nanny, Golly,

910
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.000
is suddenly fired, and she faces a harsher reality when

911
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.519
the spy book or the spy notebook is exposed.

912
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:57.599
That's a lot better actually, yeah.

913
00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:59.960
Uh. And then Bronwyn who is the director, bron When hughes.

914
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.760
She actually had a synopsis on some of the behind

915
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.280
the scenes I watched, so I use it as well.

916
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.360
Eleven year old girl who wants to be a writer,

917
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.440
so she decides to practice by being a spy.

918
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:10.679
That's pretty I mean, that's like, really pair it down,

919
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:12.559
but it's accurate. Yeah, it is accurate.

920
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:18.519
Taglines, Oh boy. Some kids collect insects, others collect dolls.

921
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:21.000
Harriet m Welsh collects secrets.

922
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.440
That's a good tagline, not bad, especially for a kids movie,

923
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.360
you know, like it's it's different rules for kids.

924
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.880
There's no lead, she won't follow, no question, she won't ask,

925
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:32.800
and no way she'll ever get caught.

926
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:35.920
That's a pretty good tag like that would make kids

927
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:37.800
want to watch it cause it sounds really fun.

928
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.840
It's not bad, but it gives more of a reporter

929
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.719
feel to it. And she's technically not that because she's

930
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.320
not really talking to a lot of people.

931
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:48.079
What are they supposed to say? Like, there's no privacy,

932
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:51.440
she won't violate, no feelings, she won't hurt. There we go,

933
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:53.480
there we go. Okay, Okay, I like that.

934
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:56.719
See the World through the eyes of a Spy.

935
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:01.119
That's a good one. And finally, on your case, how

936
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:03.039
that one works with Harriet the Spy on your case?

937
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:03.559
On your Case?

938
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:03.920
Yeah.

939
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.519
Director is bron Win Hughes on the film. She gets

940
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.639
her a start in nineteen ninety four directing the Amy

941
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:10.880
Grant video for Lucky One. Goes on to shoot another

942
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:12.760
Amy Grant video for Building the House of Love in

943
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.519
ninety four, then becomes the director on The Kids in

944
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:18.920
the Hall in nineteen ninety five, Oh Wow, Okay, goes

945
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.440
on to shoot Harriet the Spy in ninety six, directs

946
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.119
Forces of Nature in ninety nine, Earth Angels in two

947
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:27.119
thousand and one, Standard two thousand and three, episodes of

948
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:29.559
The l World, Oh My God, l Word in two

949
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.760
thousand and four, Breaking Bad episodes in eight, Burn Notice,

950
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.719
Royal Pains, White Collar, Fairly Legal, hung Black Box Stalker,

951
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.119
Teen Wolf, Damien, The Legacy, Queen of the South, Hawaii five, Oh,

952
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.800
The Residence series in twenty nineteen thirteen, Reasons Why Better

953
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.800
Call Saul The Walking Dead residential series for Netflix, Bodkin,

954
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.000
and most recently in twenty twenty four, Earth Abides.

955
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:55.599
Wow, So very very accomplished television gal.

956
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:57.880
Yeah, she took off and got into TV and did

957
00:41:57.960 --> 00:41:58.519
not look back.

958
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.920
Well, let's where the actually back then, That's where the

959
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.400
money was absolutely is and a lot of prestige TV too. Yeah.

960
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:07.719
Several writers on the film, starting off with the writer

961
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.199
of the novel, who was Louise at Fitzburg. She wrote

962
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.000
Harriet the Spy in nineteen sixty four, The Secret or

963
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:14.920
The Long Secret in nineteen sixty five, which was a

964
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:18.400
sequel Nobody's Family Is Going to Change in nineteen sixty nine.

965
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:20.760
She gets credit on IMDb for Harriet the Spy in

966
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.719
ninety six, Harriet the Spy in two thousand and three,

967
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.480
which was an animated series, Harriet the Spy, Blog Wars

968
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:30.039
twenty ten, The Long Secrets in twenty thirteen, Sport in

969
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:33.039
twenty thirteen, Harriet's Spy Is again in twenty nineteen, and

970
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:35.840
most recently the animated series again Harriet the Spy in

971
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:38.960
twenty twenty one. We unfortunately lost her back in nineteen

972
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.800
seventy four November nineteenth, at age forty six, due to

973
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:42.760
a brand aneurysm.

974
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:44.599
Damn, that's too bad.

975
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.840
Moving on to our other writer, we also have Greg

976
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.480
Taylor who was a writer for the film Prancer in

977
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.039
nineteen eighty nine, goes on to do the screenplay for

978
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:55.719
Jamunji in ninety five, The Christmas Box in ninety five.

979
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:57.840
He gets a teleplay credit on Harriet the Spy. In

980
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.719
ninety six, he gets adaptation credit on Summer of the Monkeys.

981
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:03.719
He gets screenplay credit on the Christmas Wish teleplay Santa

982
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.119
and Pete in ninety nine. Prancer returns in two thousand

983
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.559
and one, Stealing Christmas with Tony Danza in two thousand

984
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.719
and three, the TNT real movie Baby Yeah, Jumanji Welcome

985
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.199
to the Jungle. In twenty seventeen, he writes, as well

986
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.519
as Prancer, a Christmas Tale. In twenty twenty two, he

987
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:19.880
wrote the new Jumunchi Or was he just a character? Nope,

988
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:21.599
that was a he wrote it. Oh wow, that's a

989
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.840
cool story tip. Another writer is Julia Talon. She gets

990
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:27.880
an adaptation credit. We also have Douglas Petrie, who gets

991
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.239
his start in nineteen ninety writing Clash Rugrats in ninety two.

992
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:34.559
Clarissa Explains it All, Ren and Stimpy in ninety six,

993
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.480
Harryet the Spy in ninety six, Angel in two thousand

994
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:40.800
Buffy the Vampire Slayer, True Calling, the forty four hundred,

995
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:43.800
The Batman in two thousand and seven, the series CSI

996
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.760
Pushing Daisies, Charlie's Angels reboot in twenty eleven, which I

997
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.760
had no idea that there was a reboot, Charlie's Angel series, Yeah,

998
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:54.079
twenty eleven, Yeah, American Horror Story in twenty thirteen, Daredevil

999
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.840
twenty fifteen, The Defenders in twenty seventeen, and writes for

1000
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.840
Outer Range in twenty twenty four. Wow, And our final

1001
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:03.079
is Teresa Rebek. She gets her started nineteen ninety writing

1002
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:06.119
American Dreamer, goes on to write Brooklyn Bridge in ninety one,

1003
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.400
dream On in ninety one, Really Alright, La Law in

1004
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.199
ninety two, Harriet the Spy in ninety six, episodes of

1005
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.880
NYPD Blue in ninety five, Third Watch, Gossip, First Wave,

1006
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:19.519
Lawn Order, Criminal in Ten in two thousand and one,

1007
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.719
Catwoman with Halle Berry in two thousand and four, Smith

1008
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.679
in two thousand and seven, Paris Criminal Investigations, Lawn Order,

1009
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.400
Criminal Minds in two thousand and eight, Smash, which she

1010
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:31.360
is the creator of, in twenty twelve, the TV series Okay,

1011
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:34.559
the musical series Copper in twenty thirteen. She gets teleperit

1012
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.000
credit on The Divide in twenty fourteen, of Kings and

1013
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.239
Prophets Walk in twenty sixteen, and most recently in twenty

1014
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.280
twenty two, the three sixty five. Wow.

1015
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.599
Okay, yeah, So I mean this was the beginning well

1016
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:47.519
not even the beginning point for a lot of people.

1017
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:49.800
This is kind of like a like the early point.

1018
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:50.280
Bridge.

1019
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.480
Yeah, yeah, bridge is a good way to put it in. Yeah.

1020
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.960
Cinematographer on the film is Francis Kenny, returning to the

1021
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:59.960
show because they were also He was also the cinema

1022
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.400
photographer for one of our earlier entries, as Soon as

1023
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.719
I Can find It, Heathers in nineteen eighty eight. He

1024
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.679
shot Heathers, shot Heathers. So, just to give you a reminder,

1025
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:09.800
gets his career start with. Nineteen seventy five is How

1026
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:11.440
to Say No to a Rapist and Survive?

1027
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:13.920
How have I not seen that?

1028
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:15.480
I don't know, but it's I think it's a I

1029
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:19.199
think it's a how to movie. Yeah that. It did

1030
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.400
a lot of informational movies early on Red Fox Video

1031
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:24.679
and a Playing Brown Rapper in eighty three Cindy Lapper

1032
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:26.559
video for Girls Just Want to have Fun, Heathers in

1033
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:29.280
eighty eight, New Jack City, The Flash House Party, two

1034
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.639
Class Act, Coneheads, Ed and His Dead Mother in ninety three,

1035
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:36.039
Wayne's World two, Jason's Lyric, Harriet the Spy in ninety six,

1036
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.119
Bean in ninety seven, A Night at the Roxbury in

1037
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:41.079
ninety eight, She's All That ninety nine scary movie two

1038
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.199
thousand Kingdom Come How High from Justin to Kelly Steele.

1039
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.840
Magnolia is remaking twenty twelve, Bonnie and Clyde remaking twenty thirteen,

1040
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:52.400
Justified in twenty fourteen, and Swatt Series in twenty seventeen.

1041
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:56.840
I checked, by the way, how to how to Say

1042
00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:58.960
No to or rapists and Survive. That was a like

1043
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:00.760
speaking engagement that was filmed.

1044
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:02.400
Interesting.

1045
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:06.559
I mean, if that's if that's what you call entertainment,

1046
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.920
I think that's what it is. That's up to you.

1047
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:11.719
So moving down to our cast, we have Michelle Trachtenberger

1048
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.079
plays Harriet Welsh in the film, who we are also

1049
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:16.360
doing this episode to honor as we just recently lost.

1050
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:19.480
Her gets her start in nineteen ninety on lawn Order,

1051
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.440
but that's technically not where she gets her start. She

1052
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:22.599
got her start on commercials.

1053
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:23.440
Oh, sure.

1054
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:25.880
She was in a bunch of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese commercials,

1055
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.360
did some McDonald's commercials. A lot of the interviews I

1056
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.719
watched with her when she was promoting Harry at the

1057
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.800
Spy in ninety six were her talking like Cone and

1058
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.199
Rosie O'Donnell, and they were all bringing up her commercial history,

1059
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:37.000
and she had a lot.

1060
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.440
Oh I believe it.

1061
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:42.119
Yeah, so nineteen ninety Lawn Order, Clarissa Explains it All

1062
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.440
in ninety three, All My Children in ninety four, The

1063
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.119
Adventures of Pete and Pete in ninety four, Harriet the

1064
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:50.039
Spy in ninety six, then does Dave's World in ninety six,

1065
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.480
A Holiday for Love Meet in ninety seven, Richie Richest

1066
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.400
Christmas Wish in ninety eight, Inspector Gadget Movie in ninety nine,

1067
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.519
Buff of the Vampire Slayer. Yeah, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

1068
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:01.119
in two thousand.

1069
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:02.039
That was the TV series.

1070
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:04.519
TV series YEP, Euro Trip in two thousand and four,

1071
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.960
Six Feet Under Mysterious Skin, Ice Princess in two thousand

1072
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.079
and five, appeared on episodes of House in two thousand

1073
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.159
and six, Beautiful Ohio in two thousand and six.

1074
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:14.400
I remember hearing about that show, and I never watched it.

1075
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:17.119
Yeah, Lawn Order Criminal in ten O six Black exmis

1076
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:19.599
and six appears in the Fallout Boy music video for

1077
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:21.239
this A and A scene in two thousand and seven

1078
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.800
against the Current two thousand and nine, seventeen again two

1079
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.800
thousand and nine, The Superhero Squad cop Out in twenty ten,

1080
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:31.079
DC Showcase Mercy Take Me Home Tonight, Weeds, gossip Girl,

1081
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.360
the Scribbler, Sleepy Hollow series in twenty fifteen, The Christmas

1082
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.119
Gifts in twenty fifteen, the Fred Olin Ray movie Right

1083
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:36.679
and Fred.

1084
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.800
Said that working with her was delightful. Yeah, he actually

1085
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:41.039
said that she was She was the type of person

1086
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:43.800
that he just assumed he wouldn't get along, ye, And

1087
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:45.400
they ended up getting along very well.

1088
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.159
Robot Chicken series in twenty eighteen, Gossip Girl remake in

1089
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.800
twenty twenty two, Unicorn Boy in twenty twenty three, and

1090
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:53.440
I will get into this a little bit more in

1091
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:56.440
the trivia, but also makes an appearance on the Harriet

1092
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.320
the Spy animated series in twenty twenty three.

1093
00:47:58.440 --> 00:47:59.719
Oh really, yes, So.

1094
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.800
He left us unfortunately February twenty six of this year,

1095
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.320
at age thirty nine, And we found out recently that

1096
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.840
it was due to complications from diabetes melatitis melitis.

1097
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:12.880
I'm not I couldn't in the e L l it

1098
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.400
us melitas melitis.

1099
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:20.440
Yeah, but yeah, Michelle Trachtenberg, I mean I remember seeing

1100
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:21.880
her and Harriet the Spy, but I'm pretty sure I

1101
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.159
saw her on Clarissa before I saw Harriet the Spot.

1102
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:26.559
I first I knew her from Pete and Pete. Yeah, first,

1103
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:29.480
because that was I mean, her character was very memorable

1104
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.880
in Pete and Pete, and I remember popping. She popped

1105
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.559
up in like all the Nick shows for a hot minute.

1106
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.480
I remember her being on stick Stickley Yep and promoting

1107
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.440
Harriet the Spy. I remember what a big deal Harriet

1108
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:48.320
the Spy was. There was kind of this as far

1109
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:53.320
as I remember, there was kind of this cult mentality

1110
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:55.840
about Harriet the Spy where it was like Nickelodeon would

1111
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.760
be like, children, you love Nickelodeon, we need to rule

1112
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:03.239
the theater, demand your parents take you to see Harry

1113
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:03.719
at the Spot.

1114
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:05.559
That's how they did with Nick Magazine. So I mean,

1115
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:06.800
I wouldn't surprise me at that's time.

1116
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:08.280
I was a Nick Magazine subscriber.

1117
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.559
I would get it from our library at the school,

1118
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:13.079
and then I think, mom, let us subscribe to it

1119
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.880
for like six months once well that I.

1120
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:18.360
Mean their heyday was over by like ninety nine. I

1121
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:19.760
mean I had never read it past.

1122
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:21.719
Then, Nickolaida Magazine, Please please.

1123
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.760
I used to go to the news stand when I

1124
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.960
wasn't subscribed because I'm only subscribed for maybe a year

1125
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.920
because it was pretty expensive. I remember begging to go

1126
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.679
to Barnes and Noble to get the Halloween issue. Yeah,

1127
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:39.000
because the Halloween issue was the best one. It had

1128
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:42.840
all kinds of things, like they would do mad libs

1129
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:44.639
that were spooky and stuff like that.

1130
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:45.719
Now posters.

1131
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:47.800
One of the ones that always stuck with me was

1132
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:49.800
you were you were supposed to fill in the details

1133
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.159
of your own scary story. Yeah, and it says like

1134
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.840
he comes after you see this scary guy and he's

1135
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:59.039
standing there with a blank in his hand, And I

1136
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.199
remember laughing out loud as a kid because it was

1137
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:04.760
like it was like a roll of bloody dental flaws

1138
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:08.400
and the other one was a paper mache machete, which

1139
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.280
just looks hilarious when you're reading it. So I remember

1140
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.920
having a lot of fun. I really am very grateful.

1141
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.199
I got to be a Nickelodeon kid in the era

1142
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:23.039
where it came to be Yeah, because that was a

1143
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.199
real I had no idea. I mean, we had no idea.

1144
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:27.639
We were just watching TV, but we had no idea

1145
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.079
that this was like the first real television made for

1146
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:35.360
kids that was intended to speak to kids as almost adults.

1147
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:39.039
We didn't realize we were getting like underground art. We

1148
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.719
didn't really, I didn't realize when I was a kid that,

1149
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:44.239
like I was learning about doo wop and stuff from

1150
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:48.639
watching Nickelodeon. Yeah, so there was a lot of awesome

1151
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.039
things that came from it, And I'm positive that a

1152
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:56.559
large portion of my obsession with media, both viewing and creating,

1153
00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.960
comes from how obsessed I was with Nickelodeon. I was

1154
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.320
into Nickelodeon until really until I couldn't anymore. Like when

1155
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:07.039
I was sixteen seventeen, I would still like watch SpongeBob

1156
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:08.039
occasionally because.

1157
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.159
That was but but like I grew up.

1158
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:14.559
I remember when Rugrats started, Yeah, I remember because that

1159
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.599
was exciting. I remember when Snick became a thing with

1160
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.639
the big orange couch. I was obsessed with Are You

1161
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.840
Afraid of the Dark? Of course, desperately obsessed with our

1162
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:26.280
Afraid of the dark. There there was. It was such

1163
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:30.800
a special time and one of those that I actually

1164
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:33.840
it's not often maybe maybe it is, but it's not

1165
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:36.400
often that you get to look back at a special

1166
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:39.400
time like that and say, like it worked out great.

1167
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.400
I mean, like for me, like I didn't. I never

1168
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.559
took for granted Nickelodeon. I was an obsessive viewer. I

1169
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:48.119
loved it. When I watched that Orange Years documentary, it

1170
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.239
it was just it was like pushing over a pile

1171
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.679
of bricks onto me of memory. Yeah, because there was

1172
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:59.039
so I tuned into so much of that Nickelodeon because

1173
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:03.719
we stole case. Yeah, so yeah, that's that's my I

1174
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:07.639
just wanted to that little tidbit is what especially makes

1175
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:08.559
Harriet the Spy.

1176
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:09.239
Special for you?

1177
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.440
Yeah, because that was such an incredible time, and not

1178
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.159
just Nickelodeon, but I mean, and when Harriet the Spy

1179
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:16.800
came out and all of a sudden, it was like, well,

1180
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:20.000
Nickelodeon's now going to give you movies that you're going

1181
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.320
to really enjoy. That are a big deal. I remember

1182
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.719
being a kid and being so young, I didn't understand

1183
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.119
why they didn't air it. On the channel. You know,

1184
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:29.039
I didn't understand it. It's like, well, we this is

1185
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.159
way more expensive, and it has to have box office

1186
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:32.840
and this and this and this. I was just like,

1187
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.119
why don't they just show it to us? And because

1188
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.239
the two films that really were a big deal in

1189
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.960
that early time period were Harriet the Spy and Good Burger.

1190
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:49.519
Good Burger is a phenomenal movie. It still holds up. Yeah,

1191
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:53.239
it was a surprisingly solid coming of age movie. Yea,

1192
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:57.559
more than anything, especially more than SQL well that came

1193
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:01.519
of age in another way. But yeah, so it was

1194
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:04.719
a very special time. You know. Eventually they got so

1195
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:07.480
big that they became very corporate. It was still you know,

1196
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:09.599
for kids and everything, but it just didn't have that

1197
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:10.960
same vibe.

1198
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.480
Well have you seen the picture of what used to

1199
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.039
be like the Nick Zone at Universal Studios versus what

1200
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.880
it is now, And it's just like the childhood died entirely.

1201
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.400
I all I wanted in the world was to go

1202
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:26.440
to Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida and see Nickelodeon and

1203
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:30.360
get slimed and get slimed. We did have a Nickelodeon.

1204
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:32.199
I think I've told you the story. We had a

1205
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:36.559
Nickelodeon the event. Yeah, well we entered someone actually, my

1206
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:40.199
friend Jamie entered Nickelodeon takes Over Your School. Yeah, but

1207
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:43.119
we came in third. So we got an assembly with

1208
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.800
Nickelodeon stuff and they they pied a bunch of teachers.

1209
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:50.559
They slimed our principal and that was an elementary school. Yeah,

1210
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:54.280
that was pretty memorable. It was pretty dope. But you know,

1211
00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.199
but we didn't get the full Nick takes Over Your

1212
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.320
School where like, you know, they take up your whole.

1213
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.679
Day at the entire obstacle course, they bring all.

1214
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:03.599
The celebrities and they just go, you know, Kaca Cuckoo.

1215
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:10.320
But yeah, Nickelodeon. It's it's impossible to explain it because

1216
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:14.719
I remember there being basically almost nothing to watch, yeah,

1217
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:18.400
and then there being just there was more Nickelodeon and

1218
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:21.679
more Nickelodeon. I remember when Nick Junior would I would

1219
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.000
wait for Nick Junior to end during the summer so

1220
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.880
I can start watching my Nickelodeon. I was going crazy

1221
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.559
for it. So yeah, so Harriet the Spy brings up

1222
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.559
a lot of memories. But then on top of all

1223
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:35.719
of that, I love it. Yeah, I loved it. Then

1224
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:39.000
I still am very fond of it to this day.

1225
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:42.320
So I don't know what prefaced me saying all that,

1226
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:43.880
but I needed to get that out.

1227
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:44.400
That's fay.

1228
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.960
Harriet the Spy really is a special little movie about

1229
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:52.599
growing up, being a kid, being curious, having interests, and

1230
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:56.679
learning to be a better person. That's like a major

1231
00:54:57.400 --> 00:54:59.679
that's like the entire point of Harriet the Spy is

1232
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.960
learn is that you're a child, you're becoming an adult,

1233
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:05.760
and you need to do it well and you need

1234
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:07.159
to learn from your mistakes.

1235
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.440
So moving on through our cast, we also have Rosi O'Donnell,

1236
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:13.760
who plays Old Golly. She gets her start in nineteen

1237
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.519
eighty one, Would Give Me a Break, goes on to

1238
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:18.519
be stand by Your Man in ninety two, A League

1239
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:20.880
of their Own in ninety two, then does Beverly Hills

1240
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:22.639
nine oh two, one oh and ninety two, Sleepless in

1241
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.199
Seattle in ninety three, another Steakout ninety three, which is

1242
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:27.320
a movie I love. I've seen another steak Out so

1243
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:28.360
many goddamn times.

1244
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:29.559
I've only seen steak Out.

1245
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:32.920
You've only seen Steakout. Stakeout's the raunchier of the two,

1246
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:37.480
for sure. Fatal Instinct in ninety three Car fifty four,

1247
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:39.480
Where Are You in ninety four, I'll Do Anything in

1248
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:42.360
ninety four now, and then in ninety five, Larry Sanders

1249
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.760
Show in ninety five, Beautiful Girls in ninety six, which

1250
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:46.400
is also the same year as Harry at the Spy

1251
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:49.039
and also the same year that the Rosi o'donald show

1252
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:52.039
starts two or nineteen ninety six, two thousand and one. Yeah,

1253
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:53.599
and that was that was a big deal for it

1254
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:54.960
was a very big deal for a minute.

1255
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:58.880
Yeah, And Rosy o'donald was very loved by the Nickelodeon

1256
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.639
audience that she used to do guest appearances on everything everything.

1257
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:05.400
Then we also have All My Children ninety six, Very

1258
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:08.400
Brady sequel on ninety six, The Nanny, Twilight of the Gods,

1259
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:14.199
Wide Awake, Murphy Brown, Ally McBeal, Tarzan, Third Watch, The Practice, Flintstones,

1260
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:17.519
Viva Rock Vegas, Spin City, Will and Grace Riding the

1261
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:19.280
bus with my sister Queer as full man.

1262
00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.079
Did you ever see riding the bus with my sister?

1263
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:21.360
Oh?

1264
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:25.559
Yes, there's tons to laugh at and make fun of

1265
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:28.480
because it was very broad. Yeah, but it was actually

1266
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:29.320
a good film.

1267
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.039
Absolutely, Oh, it's absolutely a good film.

1268
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:35.960
I always liked that movie. But yeah, there's that's one

1269
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:38.280
of those films you can clip just about any of

1270
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:40.639
it out of context. Yeah, and you have a laugh

1271
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:41.760
riot on your hands.

1272
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:45.199
She was also I actually skipped over something, so she did,

1273
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.599
I'll do anything. In ninety four The Flintstones. In ninety

1274
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:49.960
four Red and Stimpy Show, Exit to Eden, then we

1275
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:51.119
get to Larry Sanders' show.

1276
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:54.159
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that the Flintstones movie

1277
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:57.599
was what made her insanely in with Nicholas.

1278
00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:59.880
Leg of their Own was the first one. Flintstones got

1279
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:00.360
her know what.

1280
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:03.239
I'm talking about with the kids with got because she

1281
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:05.239
was promoting I think that's why we saw her so

1282
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.079
much as she was promoting The Flintstones. Yeah.

1283
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:09.519
Originally it was funny too because one of the interviews

1284
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:12.760
was like, I said, Michelle Trackterberg all the Rose o'

1285
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:14.440
donald show, and she was saying like the first thing

1286
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:15.960
that she saw Rosie in was a Lead of their

1287
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:18.159
Own and that she's watched it a bunch of street movie.

1288
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:19.599
Oh yeah, one phenomenal movie.

1289
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:21.639
So yeah, right, lost my sister. In two thousand and five,

1290
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:24.840
Queer as Folk Nip Tuck American dropped a diva Curb

1291
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:29.320
Your Enthusiasm, Web Therapy, Happily Divorced, Pitch Perfect two, Empire Mom,

1292
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.760
American Dad Smith, Russian Doll Lee of their own remake

1293
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:34.920
in twenty twenty two, and just like that in twenty

1294
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:35.440
twenty five.

1295
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:39.480
Yeah. I mean she's definitely eased up on movie roles.

1296
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.519
She's gone a lot more into her into her stand

1297
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:44.079
ups and a lot of her She's even doing some

1298
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:45.079
spoken words stuff.

1299
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:45.760
Now being a pundit.

1300
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:47.079
Yeah, yeah, very much so.

1301
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:49.039
So I think I think I didn't she just move

1302
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:49.559
to Ireland.

1303
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:50.679
I think she's threatened to.

1304
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.199
I don't know if I know she moved, Okay, I

1305
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:55.440
think it was to Ireland. But oh, she's she's she's

1306
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:55.880
just gone.

1307
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.760
Yeah. Gregory Smith, who plays Sport in the film, gets

1308
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:01.079
to start in nineteen ninety one on the Commission, The

1309
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:03.840
Hat Squad in ninety two, Street Justice in ninety three,

1310
00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:06.800
Highlander Series in ninety four, Andre in ninety four, Are

1311
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:09.079
You Afraid of the Dark in ninety five, The Outer Limits,

1312
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:11.639
Big Bully, Then does Harriet the Spy in ninety six,

1313
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:15.079
The Climb, Meet Krippendorf's Tribe in ninety eight, which is

1314
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:16.440
a movie you cannot make today.

1315
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:21.800
I haven't thought of that movie. Yeah, I want to

1316
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:22.760
rewatch Krippendorf.

1317
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:24.960
Oh it's readily available. You can find it for those

1318
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:27.480
who are not aware. In ninety eight, Richard dreyfe is

1319
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:30.400
starting a film called Krippendorf's Tribe where he plays a

1320
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:34.119
what's the I just Paully, just thank you couldn't think

1321
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:39.239
of it that basically fakes an African tribe. He can

1322
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.079
cox this whole scheme.

1323
00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:43.599
One, but then he doesn't expect people to care so

1324
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:46.440
much that they want to see the tribe, so he

1325
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:47.880
has to start faking it.

1326
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:49.360
It's the tribal person.

1327
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:54.239
Richard Dreyfuss and Jenna Elfman both honestly at their best.

1328
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:58.360
Oh yeah, you can only rent it's it's not streaming

1329
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:01.000
for a you know, free anywhere.

1330
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:03.400
So he does Krivendor's Tribe in ninety eight. Then he

1331
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:05.639
also does one of my favorite movies in ninety eight,

1332
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:09.719
Small Soldiers. I love Small su Me too, The Patriot

1333
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:12.199
in two thousand, American Outlaws two thousand and one, Touched

1334
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.000
by an Angel Wrinkle in time Kids in America? Ever

1335
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:17.400
would boot Camp, which is boot Camp if you haven't

1336
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.280
seen as a great little thriller that him and Milacunis did.

1337
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:24.280
It's about those adjustment camps for teens that they send

1338
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:26.119
a bunch of teens to the island and try to

1339
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:30.159
make them better people. But turns out that vantage Eli

1340
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:32.679
Stone two thousand and nine, Fakers Hobo with a Shotgun

1341
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:36.039
in twenty eleven, dream House in twenty eleven, Franklin and

1342
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:39.239
Bash in twenty thirteen. But in twenty twelve he gets

1343
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:42.239
to start as a director on Rookie Blue, then directs

1344
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:46.840
Shadow Hunters, Saving Hope, Unspeakable, episodes of Arrow, episodes of

1345
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:50.960
The Flash, DC, Legends of Tomorrow, Supergirl, Katie Keene Riverdale,

1346
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.159
and most recently has shot episodes of Superman and Lois

1347
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:54.559
as well.

1348
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:56.960
Wow, Yeah, I'm glad I had I had no idea

1349
00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:00.400
he was idly working so much, and his character Sport

1350
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:03.559
is probably my favorite character in the film and was

1351
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:04.920
when I was a kid as well.

1352
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:07.760
So what was your first time watching Harry at the Spy?

1353
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:12.920
So I'm almost positive that we went to the theater

1354
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:17.639
to see Harry at the Spy because I remember just

1355
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:23.039
the friggin' deluge on Nickelodeon of telling you to go

1356
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.480
see it, go see it. Yeah, And I'm sure my

1357
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:29.280
mother would have taken me. Actually, I bet you I should.

1358
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.079
I should text her later about it. I bet she

1359
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:33.519
loved that movie because she loved Rosi o' donald and

1360
01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:35.360
see it's all coming back the more I think about it,

1361
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.079
because I remember how much she loved Rosiy o donald.

1362
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:38.800
It was kind of like I could get mom to like,

1363
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:40.679
my mom wanted to watch True Lies just because she

1364
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:45.079
loved Jamie Kurtis. So I remember that, and I remember

1365
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:48.880
renting it again and again and again and again on

1366
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:53.159
VHS tapeh So, yeah, it was. It was smack dab

1367
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:54.679
in the middle. I would have been ten years old,

1368
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.480
eleven years old, and it was just one of those movies.

1369
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:01.559
I remember. It was one of the first films that

1370
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:05.920
I got very emotional during because I was a very

1371
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:11.000
bullied child. And this film isn't just about you know,

1372
01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:13.960
being the nerd or getting bullied. It's about all of it.

1373
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:17.599
It's about becoming the bully. It's about all kinds of

1374
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:22.079
important things that are complicated for children. And I like that.

1375
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:25.360
I like that, especially in that era, they weren't afraid

1376
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:28.760
to give kids a dose of reality. I also love

1377
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.320
how there was a habit in the eighties and nineties

1378
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:35.039
to have people get bullied but then that bully becomes

1379
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.639
their best friend, because that really did happen in school too.

1380
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:39.519
Somebody would be picking on you, but then all of

1381
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:41.000
a sudden they're just around a lot, and then you're

1382
01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:43.559
sitting at lunch together and now your friends or.

1383
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:45.599
You've hired them as your bodyguard. Yeah, or the movie

1384
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:47.000
My Bodyguard exactly.

1385
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:50.599
Or you end up, you know, showering at the at

1386
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.800
Springwood High School and then the coach he hangs out

1387
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:55.239
at leather bars and stuff.

1388
01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:57.760
Or you're hanging out showering and tough turf where you

1389
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.239
just get beaten with locks inside of side.

1390
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:06.039
Just pieces of fish and sop blocks. M but no, no,

1391
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:08.960
so yeah, it was. It was a very formidable movie

1392
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:12.719
for me. And that's kind of like I'm still wrapping

1393
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:15.079
my head around it. It's like there are certain movies

1394
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.360
that when I revisit them, I'm shocked how much of

1395
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:19.639
an impact they had on me. Absolutely, Like when we

1396
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:22.400
rewatched It's one of our longest episodes that we'd ever done.

1397
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:27.079
When we rewatched Oh Gosh, What Hot American summern I

1398
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:30.320
couldn't believe how influential that had been on me. Yeah,

1399
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:32.280
I hadn't seen it in almost twenty years. Yeah, and

1400
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:35.400
I was like, wow, No, this movie like affected what

1401
01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:38.639
I thought was funny my entire life. Yeah, but what

1402
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:39.400
about you, Dave.

1403
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:44.239
I So, I distinctly cannot remember how I first saw it.

1404
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:47.840
I just remember that it was either we had rented

1405
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.440
it or I have this I have a memory of

1406
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.159
my cousin having like the orange vhs like oh yeah.

1407
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:55.480
So I don't know if it was my cousin that

1408
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:57.360
brought it over to my grandma's house or if we

1409
01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.920
had rented or whatnot, but I know myself, my sister,

1410
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:03.320
my mom all eventually saw it together and it was

1411
01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:06.679
just one of those movies that, along with like hocus

1412
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.159
Pocus and George of the Jungle, and I'm trying to

1413
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:11.679
think of some other one like who frame Roder Rabbit

1414
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:13.920
that like we would rent a lot like this is

1415
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:15.280
one that would always be like, oh, well, you know,

1416
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:16.719
what do you kids want to rent tonight? And then

1417
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:18.679
Erica would usually throw out Harry at the SPI even

1418
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:21.239
I would, And we rented it a lot growing up.

1419
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:23.880
But also it played TV a lot, Yeah, played NICK

1420
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:26.159
a lot as well. So I mean it was one

1421
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:30.639
that I really took in a probably more than I realized,

1422
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:33.159
But it wasn't really until I revisited in college that

1423
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:36.519
I saw what a deep movie it was. Yeah, for

1424
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:39.559
a childhood psyche let alone, just the experience.

1425
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.280
Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's not a farce. It

1426
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:44.880
is a kid's movie. It's a kid's movie, no doubt.

1427
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:46.800
And it's a kid's power It's it's a kid power

1428
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:51.719
movie that doesn't go in the extremity of the kids

1429
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:53.360
defeat the adults, I guess is the best way to

1430
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:56.519
put it. There's no there's no like big bad adult

1431
01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:58.840
boss in this movie. They're all basically at each other

1432
01:03:58.920 --> 01:03:59.440
at some point.

1433
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:03.719
Yeah. Yeah, it's not like Matilda. Yeah, or I mean,

1434
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:05.639
it's not Let's Save the rec Center.

1435
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:09.199
It's it's not camp Nowhere, It's not anything that like

1436
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:13.440
it bushwhack, bushwhack. Yeah, it's it's kids are being kids

1437
01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:15.960
and in doing so, having to face everything that a

1438
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:17.239
kid would normally face.

1439
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:22.480
And they they amped up looking at how kids' lives

1440
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:26.320
are different. Yeah, that's why I really appreciated Sport. Yeah,

1441
01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:29.800
because he had a very different life than everybody around him.

1442
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.400
It felt very live action Hey Arnold on this watch

1443
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:35.719
to me, hmm, just from the environment of the city

1444
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:39.280
and the characters, it felt very of that feeling, which

1445
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:41.639
I mean funny enough. I'll talk about in the trivia

1446
01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:43.519
a little bit, but I believe it was either the

1447
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:47.800
theatrical like experience included the lot the pilot episode of

1448
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:49.400
Hey Arnold when you went to go see it in theaters.

1449
01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:51.239
Really what some of the trivia says, Yeah.

1450
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:53.199
I mean that could that could very well be. Yeah,

1451
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:57.400
it's Hey Arnold's an interesting element of Nickelodeon as well,

1452
01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:59.679
because if you look at when it came out, it

1453
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:01.840
came out right when kids like me who had been

1454
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.880
watching from the start were becoming teenagers, and all of

1455
01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:07.719
a sudden there was this very good teenager show to

1456
01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:10.800
kind of the fill the gap when Doug was gone. Yeah,

1457
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:14.760
because Doug was a phenomenal show that really like like

1458
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:19.960
directly helped me handle a lot of my insecurities and worries. Yeah, Like,

1459
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:24.599
I still think back to Doug Yancy Funny, and I'm like, man,

1460
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:26.800
I'm so glad I had him around to like make

1461
01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.519
the mistakes first and look like a dork and then

1462
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:31.519
you know, because half those shows would just be like,

1463
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:35.079
would just be like you're a dork and people like

1464
01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:37.079
you for it? Yeah, and you'd be like what, Yeah,

1465
01:05:37.119 --> 01:05:38.920
but I'm afraid of people. It's like no, no, no,

1466
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:39.800
they like you.

1467
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:43.639
So would you like to get into it into what

1468
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:45.199
into Harriet the spot?

1469
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.559
Oh well, Hell's bells and taco shells.

1470
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:52.559
So we open with basically a view of every single

1471
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:55.360
piece of equipment that is in Harriet's spidel over the credits,

1472
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:57.079
which I love the credits for one, because you got

1473
01:05:57.159 --> 01:05:58.679
to like a nice little jazzy bee to it.

1474
01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:01.360
You've got some animations along with this jazzy. I'd call

1475
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.000
it funk funk. Yeah, I would go far. I would

1476
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:04.519
say funk.

1477
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.320
Sorry, I'm thinking of hay Ronold. Still well, I'm mean.

1478
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:10.119
Yeah, hey, Arnold's yeah, more jazz than funk. Who did

1479
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:14.199
the music? By the way, Uh, good question. I thought

1480
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:16.039
for sure you were going to cover that one. Nope,

1481
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:18.960
that is not When I tackled, I get it, you

1482
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.079
don't like the music. That's okay, that's.

1483
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:21.679
Totally what it is.

1484
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:23.480
Yeah, I understand, holy hate it is.

1485
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:25.480
It's not like I was watching hours of interviews on

1486
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:26.400
YouTube of the show.

1487
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:28.639
No, I meant you hate the music. I didn't say

1488
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:29.559
you hate the movie.

1489
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:35.679
Jah Jemshd Chiff Charifi, JOm Sheeed Scharifi.

1490
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:37.320
JOm Sheeed Charifi. Yeah.

1491
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:42.079
Yeah, composer for a lot, holy shit, music department for

1492
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:46.440
Hard Boiled in nineteen ninety two. No, this guy has

1493
01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:49.239
a lot of Rugrats movie Thomas Crown Affair, Rugrats in Paris,

1494
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.400
down to Earth clock stoppers. Wow, So that's just the

1495
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:54.199
music department composer wise.

1496
01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:56.119
Most of those are also him as a composer.

1497
01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:58.519
Yeah, Muffets in Space, down to Earth clock stoppers.

1498
01:06:58.599 --> 01:06:58.760
Yeah.

1499
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:01.119
Wow, not asuse resume has a though, but a pretty

1500
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:02.199
damn good resume no matter what.

1501
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:04.440
Yeah, it looks like you did a lot of TV. Yeah,

1502
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:08.400
and TV gets tricky nowadays. Composers and TV get a

1503
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:12.480
lot more direct credit. Yeah, but I'm assuming that opening

1504
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:14.519
theme was was done by him. I would imagine it

1505
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:15.199
is great.

1506
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:15.679
It's great.

1507
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:19.639
Yeah, it was banging my surround system like it was

1508
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:21.159
like thumping my living room.

1509
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:23.400
I can believe that. So after we get through the credits,

1510
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:26.079
we get a narration from Harriet if she introduces herself

1511
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:28.440
as Harriett, and well, she's eleven years old and she's

1512
01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:30.880
a spy And we see her spying as she's on

1513
01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:33.639
a street corner, hiding behind a table of some of

1514
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:36.840
some items, looking at people, a man with tattoos, We

1515
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:38.679
see a kid that's on a leash, and she comments

1516
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:39.719
about the child on the leash.

1517
01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:40.639
Uh.

1518
01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:43.000
And also while this is happening, she also witnesses a

1519
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:45.119
robbery occur because an old woman is passing and a

1520
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:46.159
man steals her wallet.

1521
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:50.159
Yeah, and it should be mentioned when this movie came out,

1522
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:55.440
like they sold spy kits. Oh yeah, and like every

1523
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:58.880
kid wanted a pair of binoculars. Every kid wanted a notebook.

1524
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:01.280
She's got the notebook, she's got the binocular she's got

1525
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:04.199
her gloves, she's got a magnifying glass, she's got a flashlight.

1526
01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:06.159
I mean, she's got a little bit of everything in

1527
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:06.920
that spy belt.

1528
01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:11.760
No. But and that's such a kid thing to give

1529
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:14.920
us that, Like it was on par with everybody wanting

1530
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:19.960
the talk Boy from Home Alone too. Yeah, everybody wanted that.

1531
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:23.520
Everybody wanted their spy kit. Harriet the Spy was so

1532
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:27.479
imitable and not just for girls. That's the other thing, Like,

1533
01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:30.840
sometimes I understand that sometimes it feels good to be

1534
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:35.600
directly represented to see somebody like you exactly. Yeah, but

1535
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:38.319
I would watch Harriet the Spy and be like, I

1536
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.079
want to be like Harriet the Spy. Yeah. And Harriet

1537
01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:41.640
the Spy was a little girl. I was a little boy.

1538
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:43.159
Yeah, you know, nothing wrong with that.

1539
01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:44.760
No, no, And that's my point. It's like, I don't

1540
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:47.079
think it's a stretch, because it's like, if you tell

1541
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.560
a good enough story, everybody's gonna want to be in there. Yeah.

1542
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:50.920
Sure.

1543
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:52.880
So, not only does you see the crime occur, so

1544
01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.680
the thief starts running towards her, she stands up, alerting him,

1545
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:57.920
and he runs right into a bunch and I mean

1546
01:08:58.000 --> 01:08:59.159
a bunch of eggs.

1547
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:02.720
Yeah, like one point eight million dollars worth of eggs.

1548
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:04.760
And at this point yeah yeah. And the thing I

1549
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:06.600
love about it too is we don't see the cops

1550
01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:08.840
take him or anything that happened.

1551
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:10.880
Oh no, that was vigilante justice. He was hung in

1552
01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:12.880
the back of the backwater of the back of that

1553
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:13.800
Chinese restaurant.

1554
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:14.319
Fair enough.

1555
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:16.640
Yeah, you don't mess with the triads, baby.

1556
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:20.520
We cut over to her at her school. We meet

1557
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:23.079
her friends, Sport and Genie. They all have this matching

1558
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:25.359
tattoo that they put on their feet, and that's what

1559
01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:26.640
is the tattoo. I can't remember.

1560
01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:28.560
It's like a like a figure. Yeah, it's like a

1561
01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:30.920
it's like a stick many, a kind of special stick man.

1562
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:33.600
And they have their little swearing to it. Of nobody

1563
01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:35.840
knows about the tattoo or else. Death to all of them.

1564
01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.600
Yes, it was a swift and painful death, which is

1565
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.079
very funny. Yeah, because swift and painful don't really go together.

1566
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:46.039
Swift would mean lacking pain, yeah, but a swift and

1567
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:48.880
painful death. Yeah. They draw this tattoo on their feet

1568
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:51.680
and then push their feet together to copy the tattoo. Yeah,

1569
01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:53.600
and they say that it's because they wanted to be

1570
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:56.319
blood brothers. But this is way less painfully less pain

1571
01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:00.640
which was so for a kid in that era, so

1572
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:05.199
identifiable because you would seen stand by me, you would

1573
01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:07.479
seen if you were like me, you had seen it.

1574
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:10.880
At the fact that like, how stupid it is to

1575
01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:13.359
cut across your palm when you do a blood brother.

1576
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:15.279
That has to have come up. Well, I think that

1577
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.119
that's that's something that drives me crazy when like it's

1578
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:19.880
one thing if you cut your palm because you're gonna

1579
01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:23.520
shake hands. Yeah, okay, but like every horror movie when

1580
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:25.640
they have to get blood, they always cut their palm, like, yeah,

1581
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:27.439
cut where you'll feel it for a month.

1582
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:27.720
Yeah.

1583
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:31.439
No, like cut the side of your arm and then no, no, no,

1584
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:33.199
because you use your fingers, you couldn't say your earm.

1585
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:35.000
Then just put a bandit on it. You'll like barely

1586
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:35.680
notice it's there.

1587
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:35.840
Ye.

1588
01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.680
But also, just don't cut yourself. True, I don't want

1589
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:44.880
to be that guy. Yeah, but kids, don't cut your

1590
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:47.560
lifestyle coach. As your lifestyle coach, I'm telling you, just

1591
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:48.279
don't cut yourself.

1592
01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:50.239
The one that always gets me the more I watch

1593
01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:52.640
it is it chapter one, the final one that when

1594
01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:54.640
they do the blood brother oath on that like they

1595
01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:57.960
are really taking that bottle and just slice.

1596
01:10:58.399 --> 01:11:00.760
But and the reactions are like they are, oh yeah,

1597
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.439
it's not like it's not like some movies where like

1598
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:04.399
they cut their wrists in their arm or their hand

1599
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:06.119
or whatever and then just go whatever. Yeah, was I

1600
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:09.720
was just watching something, Oh I was. I've been rewatching

1601
01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:12.439
Stand Against Evil and there's an episode where these goth

1602
01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:15.199
kids come to town to try and summon and whatever. Yeah,

1603
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:17.760
and when when the kid cuts his paulm, he goes

1604
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:20.680
ow ow ow ow ow like when he when he does,

1605
01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:22.399
it's he killed me.

1606
01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:27.399
So while they're also at school, Harriet lives in New

1607
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.319
York City and they attends school with like I said,

1608
01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:33.520
Sport and Genie. And that is when we also get

1609
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:36.479
a rounding of the classmates that are along with her

1610
01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:38.520
as well. I don't have all their names, but.

1611
01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:42.880
It's an incredible cast of characters from snobby kind of

1612
01:11:43.239 --> 01:11:44.199
entitled girl.

1613
01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:48.000
Which is Marion Yeah friends. Yeah, Marion Hawthorne is the

1614
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:50.880
enemy basically they no one likes her, but they all

1615
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:52.640
are friends with her basically yeah.

1616
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.239
And and they're well, and they're ripping into her because

1617
01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:57.279
they say, like when when Mary and Hawthorne gets out

1618
01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:59.239
of her car to come in, they're like, oh, it's happening,

1619
01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:00.560
and they also vomit.

1620
01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.399
Yeah, but we also see the kid with purple socks.

1621
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:05.720
We see one girl that one of my favorite lines

1622
01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:08.319
is she took last summer and decided to grow boobs,

1623
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:08.560
as she.

1624
01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:10.920
Everybody likes her because she decided. Well, my favorite thing

1625
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.079
about is they say grow boobs, but then she drops

1626
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:15.600
something and leans over. Yeah. The reason that that scene

1627
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:18.119
made me laugh out loud as an adult was the

1628
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:20.279
way she bends to get it. You wouldn't you wouldn't

1629
01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:22.680
see them, you wouldn't see her chest even a little bit.

1630
01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:25.600
I mean, so that would made it extra funny. But

1631
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:28.039
also like, yeah, every every boy is going to give

1632
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:29.399
her attention. So you've got that.

1633
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:31.319
You've got one girl that's obsessed with the pop star

1634
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:33.560
that she says she always looks like she's about to cry.

1635
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:35.159
I wish somebody would kick her and get it over

1636
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:38.159
with one girl that said looks like her face is pinched.

1637
01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:41.000
So her spying is also a lot of gossiping on

1638
01:12:41.159 --> 01:12:42.760
these people that she's around every day.

1639
01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:46.439
And and she's she's saying a lot of things that

1640
01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:51.079
are very borderline. Yeah, and I've had friends with kids,

1641
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:55.079
especially toward that age, who have that like period of

1642
01:12:55.159 --> 01:12:58.439
being kind of mean because they have to kind of realize,

1643
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:03.399
hopefully God willing, that you need to be empathetic that

1644
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:05.840
not everybody has an easy life, not everybody has an

1645
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:09.279
easy day, because you know, for all of Harriet's situation,

1646
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:11.520
I mean, she has two parents at home who seem

1647
01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:13.359
to love each other quite a bit, but her father

1648
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:15.119
makes a lot of money, makes a lot of money,

1649
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:18.600
very busy, and it's stressful. He makes a lot of

1650
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:22.359
money because he's working really really hard, and so she

1651
01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:25.159
has some great things. But also you can see why

1652
01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:29.079
she would want to bury herself in these activities because

1653
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:32.039
there's not a lot at home other than well who

1654
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:33.000
will talk about in a second.

1655
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:36.199
And that's the thing is Old Golly is her grounding.

1656
01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:39.039
That's the one that reminds her that people are people

1657
01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:41.279
and situations and all this stuff. And I mean, Rosie

1658
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:43.319
O'Donnell in this role outstanding, No.

1659
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:45.600
She's perfect, a perfect choice for it too because and

1660
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:50.159
this is not anything against Rosie, but Rosie's very average looking,

1661
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:53.520
but she has charisma. That's why she's built such a

1662
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:56.159
good career. But she's very average looking, so you look

1663
01:13:56.159 --> 01:13:59.000
at her and you wouldn't think much. But then she's

1664
01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:02.079
got this this way about her in this film where

1665
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:05.279
everything she says is a gem. And I love where

1666
01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:08.079
she'll just take the kids to do something because.

1667
01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:08.600
That's my favorite.

1668
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.560
Yeah, So after we get to know the kids, we

1669
01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:13.079
move on to that and basically she's hanging out with

1670
01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:15.520
Sport and what was the other money and Jeanie and

1671
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:17.720
they're just sitting on the stup or whatever, and Rose

1672
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:20.079
o'donald's character shows up. She's just like, we'll be back

1673
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:20.600
before dinner.

1674
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:23.039
Yeah, you got home before dinner. Your parents are not

1675
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:24.680
gonna be home the night, so I'm taking care of you.

1676
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:28.000
And yeah. They go to this artist's house and it's

1677
01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:30.760
this backyard where this woman has been creating for god

1678
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:31.479
knows how long.

1679
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:33.800
It's just and to make sure the context is there.

1680
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:36.279
She's an O pair. She's she's the nanny or what

1681
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:40.880
have you, the almost live in babysitter. Yeah, it's who Harriet.

1682
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:43.600
Yeah, And she takes them to this friend's house that

1683
01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:45.720
as an artist, and it's basically an area that the

1684
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:48.439
kids can have fun. They're drumming on the pieces of art.

1685
01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:50.720
There's things that they can blow bubbles with, like all

1686
01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:52.039
kinds of stuff that you would want to.

1687
01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:54.399
They're drinking a big glass bottle of sprite or whatever

1688
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:55.439
it's which is at each other.

1689
01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:57.640
Again my favorite, because not only does she take it

1690
01:14:57.720 --> 01:14:59.199
down and like you know, shake it up and have

1691
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.439
them drink out of it, but tells them to shout

1692
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:03.880
out what they want the most. And Genie wants to,

1693
01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:06.439
you know, win an award for her science. I can't sport.

1694
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:07.760
I think wants to be able to like take care

1695
01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:10.680
of his dad and whatnot. And then Harriet wants to

1696
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:13.359
see everything and know everything, and then also like tries

1697
01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:15.960
to chug the bottle as best she can but can't

1698
01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:16.159
do it.

1699
01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:18.680
Yeah, and this is a great sequence because they're really

1700
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:23.279
being kids. They're jumping around, they're wrestling around, they're spitting

1701
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:25.880
so to each other and laughing uncontrollably.

1702
01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:26.279
Yeah.

1703
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:31.560
The the the chemistry with the kids is really great,

1704
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.720
really great this one. And you really believe that they're

1705
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:38.680
best friends. Yeah, it's it's super super nice. And you know,

1706
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:43.119
Harriet is obviously very assertive. Yeah, but uh was it

1707
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:46.000
Genie Genie Genie? Okay, I did? I did? Remember. Genie

1708
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:48.680
is the aggressive friend. She's the one who's like quick

1709
01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:49.880
to well to get in a fight.

1710
01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:52.399
One of my favorite lines for her is when she's

1711
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:56.600
talking about basically poisoning Marian, about putting it into a

1712
01:15:56.640 --> 01:16:00.359
soda can that would make her insides like basically come outside. Yeah,

1713
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:01.640
and like acts it out.

1714
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.920
She's an amateur chemist at home, she's messing with her

1715
01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:07.720
her easy bake oven and stuff, making all these concoctions,

1716
01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:12.760
growing germs and sport. Is a lot more reserve. Yeah,

1717
01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:16.880
he's still very playful, but you can tell that he's

1718
01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.479
really only able to be that way with his friends, Yeah,

1719
01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:24.520
because otherwise he's just not comfortable. Jane, Genie, Jane's okay, Janie. Yeah.

1720
01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:27.640
And also sport is we'll find out a little later on.

1721
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:29.720
But he's got a lot of responsibilities. That is the

1722
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:31.439
main focus of his story by far.

1723
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:34.000
No, in many ways, he's parenting his father exactly, and

1724
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:36.119
we don't know where his mother is, so we assume

1725
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:39.000
that she's not in the picture at all, probably passed away.

1726
01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:42.600
And going back to Marion Hawthorne, she is the snobby classmate,

1727
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:44.239
like I said, that a lot of people do not like,

1728
01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:46.479
but everybody kind of tries to get along with because

1729
01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:49.199
she's the class president, which means she also runs the newspaper.

1730
01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:51.880
So if you're on her good graces, you're safe well.

1731
01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:55.399
And something worth mentioning about these kids, because a lot

1732
01:16:55.479 --> 01:16:57.479
of them don't have you know, the kid with the

1733
01:16:57.479 --> 01:16:59.920
purple socks or whatever I mean, she says, some really mean.

1734
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:01.600
She was like if I was known as the kid

1735
01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:06.720
with the purple soie myself oof. My point though, is

1736
01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:11.479
what do almost all of these kids descriptions have in common?

1737
01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:16.000
In her diary or her spy book. They're caricatures. Yeah,

1738
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:20.720
they're not fully formed people. They're a little taste. And

1739
01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:22.880
then her commentary, Yeah, and then moving on.

1740
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:24.760
Well, and even the same thing when she sees the

1741
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:26.359
kid on the least, she says, if my parents ever

1742
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:27.399
did that, I'd trade them in.

1743
01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:32.199
I'd trade them in. And she's she's got that sassiness.

1744
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:33.920
You know, she wants to be a writer. Yeah, And

1745
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:36.720
it's clear she's going to be able to the reason

1746
01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:38.560
she's a spy is she was told, if you're going

1747
01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:40.560
to be a writer, you start right now. Yeah, writing

1748
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:41.399
everything you can.

1749
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:43.680
And we see the people that she spies on. She's

1750
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:45.920
got some regulars, which include one guy I can't think

1751
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:47.479
of his name, but he's got all the cats and

1752
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:51.159
he builds these immaculate birdhouses. But when I say all

1753
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.279
the cats, he's got like thirty cats I counted in

1754
01:17:53.359 --> 01:17:53.920
the one scene.

1755
01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:54.479
Yeah.

1756
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:57.439
No, And he's hiding from the health department.

1757
01:17:57.159 --> 01:17:58.880
As well, trying to hide that he has all these

1758
01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:01.479
cats because they'll take them away if they find out.

1759
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:05.000
She's spying on people at the Chinese grocery store.

1760
01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:07.960
And specifically the Sun. Johnny, who is more American of

1761
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:10.520
the family and Harry has a date and wants to

1762
01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:12.439
borrow the car which may come back.

1763
01:18:12.399 --> 01:18:13.840
And wears like a leather jacket.

1764
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:16.279
Wear's a leather jacket. You know who he reminded me

1765
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:17.960
of was do you remember the episode of Are You

1766
01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:21.920
Afraid of the Dark with the Chinese the cookies that

1767
01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:25.399
fortune Fortune cookies? Yeah, where he becomes the artist and

1768
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:27.399
everything he has like three of the opens. That's what

1769
01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:29.079
that whole setting reminded me of.

1770
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.880
I could see that. Yeah. Yeah. And she's seeing people

1771
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:35.439
when they don't know they're being watched, being watched, yah,

1772
01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:38.279
which is how you get people at their most honest. Yeah,

1773
01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:39.680
is when they don't know they're being watched.

1774
01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:41.880
Which brings us to a great moment in the movie

1775
01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:45.520
where Harriet's parents are are going out so Golly as

1776
01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:47.640
our wait actually only back up a little bit because

1777
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:49.199
I want to I want I want to really go

1778
01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:51.560
on Golly and Harriet's relationship, because there's one scene in

1779
01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:55.119
particular where Harriet's taking a bath and she hears her

1780
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:58.039
parents fighting and Golly comes in shuts the door and

1781
01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:00.000
she's like, hey, I was listening to that, and she's like, yeah,

1782
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:01.359
I'm an opera singer, or I want to be an

1783
01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:03.359
opera singer, but I can't, so I don't. Yeah, I

1784
01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:06.279
love that line good. And she basically says, what's going

1785
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:08.199
on down there has nothing to do with you, so,

1786
01:19:08.319 --> 01:19:10.000
you know, don't involve yourself in it. Your dad just

1787
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:13.039
has a very high strung job. What's high strung explains

1788
01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:15.520
all this to her, and also is very nurturing about

1789
01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:18.159
the fact that, like, you know, you you are, you're

1790
01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:20.199
a good kid. That has nothing to do with you.

1791
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:22.439
Don't involve yourself in that. It's very nurturing.

1792
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:25.399
It's best to let that be. Yeah. No, And and

1793
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:28.479
she's a great influence on Harriet. Yeah, and a really

1794
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:31.840
good example of how when adults take an interest in kids,

1795
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:34.439
the kids tend to do better.

1796
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:37.239
Yeah, because we even see the one of my favorite again,

1797
01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:38.720
I keep saying one of my favorites. There's a lot

1798
01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:40.319
in this movie though. But to get her out of

1799
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:41.800
the tub, she tells her there's a water bug, so

1800
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:44.520
she gets up all she slaps the towel on her,

1801
01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:46.560
goes downstairs, and her mom's like, you want me to

1802
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:48.279
tuck you in? She's like, no, Golly can do it.

1803
01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:50.640
And they go back and forth with this little uh

1804
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:54.399
saying from Alice in Wonderland with the story of the

1805
01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:58.279
walrus and the oysters. I think I can't remember.

1806
01:19:58.119 --> 01:19:59.760
Something along those Dade, Yeah, but it was a Lewis

1807
01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:00.359
care thing.

1808
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:00.960
Lewis Carrol thing.

1809
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:01.239
Yeah.

1810
01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:03.560
So I mean we see that their relationship is very close,

1811
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:05.800
and she even comes to her that night and says,

1812
01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:07.520
you know, will you always be here? And she's like, well,

1813
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:09.600
you know, at some point I'll have to leave, you know,

1814
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:11.560
because you're getting older and whatnot. But you know that

1815
01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:14.520
day is not today. That cuts us into the next

1816
01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:17.119
day or as as we're supposed to see it as.

1817
01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:21.359
And Golli is making dinner and Harriet is, you know,

1818
01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:23.760
asking her what she's making. She's making brought worse. We

1819
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:25.720
also hear knock at the door and Harriet's like, I'll

1820
01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:27.760
get it, and she opens the door to see somebody

1821
01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:29.239
that we've already seen in the movie, which is a

1822
01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:34.439
guy that she calls the something thief thief yeah, fruit thief, yeah,

1823
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:37.039
because she saw this guy at the Chinese restaurant and

1824
01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:40.039
he took vegetables and fruits and took them out the door.

1825
01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:41.720
But we don't see what he's doing with them. They're

1826
01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:43.439
just not his hands with them. Looks like he's stealing,

1827
01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:44.920
looks like he's sealing them. Yeah, it looks like he's

1828
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:47.720
stocking them away. So she's like fruit thief. So immediately

1829
01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:48.840
doesn't like this guy.

1830
01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:52.720
Well, and you know, she's having to compete for Golly's attention. Yeah,

1831
01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:57.159
and this guy could not be nicer and more welcoming

1832
01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:00.560
and more friendly to Harriet. And that's where we get

1833
01:21:01.119 --> 01:21:06.960
the first example of more than a caricature. Yeah, because

1834
01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:09.960
as they're talking, after he makes Harriet laugh a few

1835
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:10.800
times and stuff.

1836
01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:13.439
The staring contest. It breaks her down because at first

1837
01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:15.680
she's just like she's even kind of interrogating him a

1838
01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:17.560
little bit, and he picks up on it, plays with her,

1839
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:19.119
and then they're completely good.

1840
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:22.079
Well, and then he tells her about how at one

1841
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:24.319
time he was very rich, Yeah, and he owned a

1842
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:28.760
company and he was constantly working, he was constantly stressed,

1843
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:31.399
he was constantly miserable, and one day he got up

1844
01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:34.239
and he told his wife, and Harry's to start his wife.

1845
01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:35.800
You know, he's like, I want to, I'm going to

1846
01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:37.439
start fresh, and I'd like, if you want to, you

1847
01:21:37.479 --> 01:21:40.000
should come with me. And then he's like, she left me.

1848
01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:42.720
She left me, Like I sorry. He's like, no, I

1849
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:44.800
mean it was her choice, you know, she had to

1850
01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:46.600
do what she had to do. And and now we

1851
01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:49.079
find out he's a delivery boy, yeah, which which is

1852
01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:50.600
the joke she makes. She's like, don't think you should

1853
01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.439
be delivered by now, But he's like, I'm a delivery boy.

1854
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:55.520
I may not make a lot of money, but I'm happy. Yeah.

1855
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:57.600
And that also gives Gollie to speak up and basically

1856
01:21:57.720 --> 01:21:59.960
like mind Harriet of hermanner is also while doing so good,

1857
01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.199
Ally realizes that she's burned her Broatworths that she was

1858
01:22:02.239 --> 01:22:04.199
making and now they have to go out for dinner.

1859
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:06.039
Well, and that's his idea. He's like, that's just an

1860
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:07.960
excuse for us to go out and have some have

1861
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:11.640
a nice meal together and a movie that makes Harriet

1862
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:15.439
am mata Hari mind you too? Yeah, what a movie

1863
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.000
for Harriet to go. Now, it makes perfect sense that

1864
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.119
Harriet would watch mata Hari.

1865
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:21.159
So we get they go to see mata Hari. They

1866
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:23.800
have a great time. They're they're fake sword fighting outside

1867
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:25.800
of the theater, but naturally with dinner in a movie.

1868
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:29.119
They come back late and mom and Dad are home now.

1869
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:31.479
And free and they were home earlier than normal, yeah, and.

1870
01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:34.760
Freaking out because there's no note, no nobody called them

1871
01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:37.560
and Harriet's missing. So they pull up and her mom's like,

1872
01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:39.119
you know, what are you thinking, Golly, Like, you know

1873
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:40.960
you didn't do anything, you know, this is this is

1874
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:43.439
last draw. You're fired And and.

1875
01:22:43.640 --> 01:22:46.760
There was already the only thing that shocked me when

1876
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:48.960
I was rewatching this was how little Golly's actually in

1877
01:22:49.039 --> 01:22:53.079
the movie. Yeah, because they're even in the little bit

1878
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:57.359
that she's in. You see that there's a jealousy of

1879
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:00.439
Harriet's mother, especially when she turns down being didn't buy

1880
01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:01.800
her own mother because Golly's here.

1881
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:02.079
Yeah.

1882
01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:05.920
And the thing I really love about the scene is

1883
01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:09.840
it's very obvious when the mother says you're fired, yeah,

1884
01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:12.039
that she's not fire yeah, because the dad is kind

1885
01:23:12.039 --> 01:23:14.399
of like, well, whoa, And then Golly says, you know

1886
01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:16.960
you're right, You're right. I think my time here is

1887
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:20.000
has run its course. Yeah, and I should be going,

1888
01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:22.079
And even the mom goes what yeah.

1889
01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:24.039
Well, even Harriet starts freaking out. And one of one

1890
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:26.279
of the one of like the things I love about

1891
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:27.880
having the captions on is there's some things that you

1892
01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:30.239
can briefly hear, and one of the ones is this

1893
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:32.800
where like you can hear her mom being like, you know,

1894
01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:34.520
I was, I was mad, like you know, you don't

1895
01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:37.079
have to leave, and she's like no, no, like you're right, Like,

1896
01:23:37.239 --> 01:23:39.439
you know, Harriet's getting older and this is the only this,

1897
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:40.840
this will be good for her, and I think it's

1898
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:42.399
time and you know, I've got plans that I want

1899
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:44.359
to do. So the next day, she's waiting for the

1900
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:47.279
bus and is sitting and Harriet comes out and the

1901
01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:50.119
rain's coming down, and she's just like, no, Harriet, you

1902
01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:52.359
know you it's okay to cry, but I will not

1903
01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:53.239
stand any laughter.

1904
01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:56.840
Oh my favorite, my favorite moment. Yeah, because Harriet's like said,

1905
01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.079
She's like, you know, it's okay if you need to cry,

1906
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:02.760
but I will not allow any laughter. Do not laugh,

1907
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:07.159
young lady, And so Harriet starts laughing. Really wonderful moment

1908
01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:11.039
and a wonderful just example of dealing with children.

1909
01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:13.600
Yeah, and that and at this point too, Golly encourages

1910
01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:15.680
Harriet not to give upon her love of spying on

1911
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:19.840
people and observing people and basically staying true to your nature.

1912
01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:22.039
And that's what I've always really Taken a Heart from

1913
01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:24.680
Golly Is. Even though she sees that something in this

1914
01:24:24.840 --> 01:24:28.640
kid may not progress well with the way that it's going,

1915
01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:30.800
she still encourages her to do it because she knows

1916
01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:32.399
that that's the only way she's going to find out

1917
01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:33.720
the hard side of it too.

1918
01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:37.960
Yeah. No, it's it's it's it's it's all. It works

1919
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:41.039
so well. Yeah, and it's aged, in my opinion, very well.

1920
01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:43.239
Very well. And it even even promises to buy her

1921
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:46.079
first book of a signed copy of Harriet's first novel,

1922
01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:48.439
so like she's encouraging her to be a writer. So naturally,

1923
01:24:48.680 --> 01:24:51.600
you know, Harriet gets depressed and she starts spying on

1924
01:24:51.720 --> 01:24:54.960
people more. This leads her into the mansion of the

1925
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:56.760
famous Agatha.

1926
01:24:56.439 --> 01:25:01.880
Plumber played by u one of the original catwomen.

1927
01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:05.720
Yes, and she is so eccentric as ever is always

1928
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:08.359
in this movie. Sitting in bed talking on the phone.

1929
01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:10.479
She's got a housekeeper, she's got a little dog.

1930
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:13.119
And she's going on this incredible tirade on the phone

1931
01:25:13.159 --> 01:25:17.600
about the secret everlasting life is never getting out of bed,

1932
01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:21.880
and as she says that her her maid or whatever

1933
01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:23.159
is bringing her things.

1934
01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:25.319
Bringing her things, and Harriet by this point is literally

1935
01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:27.600
snuck into her house and is hiding in a dumb waiter.

1936
01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:31.000
The dog's alerted and basically ends up getting found out

1937
01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:33.239
because the maid goes over the dumb waiter opens it

1938
01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:35.520
and that causes both of the scream and Harriet's completely

1939
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:37.199
thrown out of the house. Yeah.

1940
01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:39.600
I mean, she's lucky they didn't like call the police.

1941
01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:41.319
She's very lucky they didn't call the police. Yeah.

1942
01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:43.800
And just she's walking home, she's just repeating over a

1943
01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:46.359
good spy never gets caught, A good spy never gets caught. Yeah,

1944
01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:49.079
And that was a scary moment I remember as a

1945
01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:54.720
kid watching that because yeah, you're they they're selling the

1946
01:25:54.960 --> 01:25:59.520
fun idea of being a spy like Harriet. Yeah, but

1947
01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:01.600
what the movie he's really about is much more than that.

1948
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:04.119
And I remember that moment when Harry gets caught me

1949
01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:06.680
being like like as a kid, because I didn't want

1950
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:08.359
Harry to get caught. It wanted Harry to just keep

1951
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.199
being a spy because being a spy seems awesome. Yeah.

1952
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:14.479
And so also by this point, she's also went back

1953
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:16.720
to see the guy with the cats. He unfortunately got

1954
01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:17.800
caught by the health department.

1955
01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:20.840
Oh that's a car breaking. They just take the cats

1956
01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:22.039
away in a big sack, you know.

1957
01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:23.600
And we didn't talk about it much with his scene

1958
01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:25.079
because I mean, there's so much talk about this movie,

1959
01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:27.920
but his scene specifically, like he's singing his tunes, he's

1960
01:26:27.960 --> 01:26:30.279
feeding all the cats, have played at a time, working

1961
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:32.359
on these bird houses, and is just so happy. When

1962
01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:34.439
she goes back, of course he's sadden. He has like,

1963
01:26:34.479 --> 01:26:37.439
I think one cat, he has none? Yeah, none, No.

1964
01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:40.960
They reveal later later on that he snuck one nothing

1965
01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:41.960
to catch one. Yeah.

1966
01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:44.239
And then also we see that Johnny did in fact

1967
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:46.399
borrow the van without asking and crashed it, and his

1968
01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:49.000
family is extremely pissed now because the delivery van is

1969
01:26:49.079 --> 01:26:52.920
total yeah, not ideal, not ideal. So all the stuff

1970
01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:55.359
is happening, and she's also trying to reconnect with her friends.

1971
01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:57.560
She goes and sees Sport. We find out that his

1972
01:26:57.720 --> 01:26:59.479
dad is in a creative slump with the book.

1973
01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:03.439
He's right, his dad is what they call a starving artist,

1974
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:06.840
is their reference in the movie. Yeah, And we find

1975
01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:09.079
out that Sport is basically taking care of his father

1976
01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:12.159
as his father is failing to make much money to

1977
01:27:12.239 --> 01:27:15.479
make ends meet. They're struggling all the time. Sport is

1978
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:18.680
cooking dinner for his father, cleaning the house for his father.

1979
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:20.720
Harriet saves his ass by saying that he dropped the

1980
01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:23.439
dollar when he's at the store and he's buying bread

1981
01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:26.560
and milk any short and he doesn't have enough money.

1982
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:28.760
So Harriet walks in and just says, Oh, I saw

1983
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:31.239
you drop this dollar when I came in, which is like,

1984
01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:33.239
I get chills thinking about it, because that's just sweet.

1985
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:38.800
And it's a really good example of Harriet growing starting

1986
01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:41.279
to grow because what did she do. She didn't just

1987
01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:44.119
help him, She did something that would allow him to

1988
01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:47.640
keep his dignity, and that's something that takes a lot

1989
01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:49.560
of maturity to understand that, Like, I'm not here to

1990
01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:51.640
embarrass you. I'm just here to help you. Yeah, because

1991
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:52.239
you're my friend.

1992
01:27:52.359 --> 01:27:52.560
Yeah.

1993
01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:54.680
And it also plays into the fact she goes a

1994
01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:57.640
visit Jane, and there's a whole scene with Jane his

1995
01:27:57.760 --> 01:27:59.640
mom coming in and seeing that like one of her

1996
01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:01.880
braw is being used for an experiment with mold, it

1997
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:04.399
burst on her. It doesn't go well. Harriet leaves, and

1998
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:06.359
you know, Jane's getting yelled at by her mother. But

1999
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:09.000
at the same time, we also get more monologue from

2000
01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:11.600
Harriet basically saying, you know, I can't tell if Jane's

2001
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:13.399
a genius or if she's just like a weird.

2002
01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:15.359
I can't tell, well, she says, she literally says, I

2003
01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:17.760
can't tell if Jane's going to be like a genius

2004
01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:21.079
this thing or this thing or a crazy person ended

2005
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:22.039
up in prison around.

2006
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:23.520
And she has talked about poisoning people twice in the

2007
01:28:23.560 --> 01:28:24.319
movie by this point.

2008
01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:27.640
Well, I mean, what kid doesn't dabble a little bit

2009
01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:28.239
in poisoning?

2010
01:28:28.439 --> 01:28:31.359
But yeah, this all leads to a scene where the

2011
01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:33.800
kids are you know, Harriet basically gives up spying for

2012
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:36.279
a bit because she sees the sadness that it has

2013
01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:38.880
on effect, and also getting caught at Agatha's just kind

2014
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:41.359
of turns her away. So she decides to give up

2015
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:43.239
spying for a little bit and spend an afternoon playing

2016
01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:45.119
with the kids. And that all leads to this beautiful

2017
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:46.520
scene at the park where they're playing tag.

2018
01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:49.119
Well, and I want to mention one thing real quick

2019
01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:51.319
that that was easy to miss because so much is

2020
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.680
going on. Yeah, right before this, she got caught spying

2021
01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:57.760
on sport. Yeah that's right, Yeah, because she was standing

2022
01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:00.439
on this this ridiculous pile of stuff to look in.

2023
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:05.079
But what she saw was while, yes, the household is

2024
01:29:05.159 --> 01:29:08.039
not perfect, Yeah, Sport has a lot of expectations on him.

2025
01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:10.079
His father is not able to support him as well

2026
01:29:10.119 --> 01:29:12.720
as he'd like. Yeah, they love the hell out of

2027
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:14.960
each other. Yeah they do. And at one point, Sport

2028
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:17.560
puts on a chicken well no, it was a glove

2029
01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:20.319
glove yeah, yeah, and his dad starts making this joke

2030
01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:21.760
and they're like singing about him being a chicken and

2031
01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:23.439
like pick somebove and swings him around. It's a really

2032
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:25.720
sweet moment, though, And I think that's so important to

2033
01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:30.159
establish that sports Dad is not just like a lazy

2034
01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:34.239
drunk or something. Sports Dad is struggling to try and

2035
01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:36.239
stay true to himself and take care of his son.

2036
01:29:36.399 --> 01:29:37.520
Do we ever hear about mom?

2037
01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:39.039
We never hear a word about her.

2038
01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:39.600
I didn't think so.

2039
01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:42.520
I would assume that she's probably passed away because there's

2040
01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:45.640
there's no child support, there's no nothing. Yeah. It just

2041
01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:48.840
I just got that vibe. Yeah, and his dad clearly

2042
01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:51.199
is as in as he can be, and his son

2043
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:52.840
is trying to pick up the slack because he loves

2044
01:29:52.840 --> 01:29:54.520
his dad too. Yeah, And I just wanted to mention

2045
01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:57.279
that really quick, because that really helps set the stage

2046
01:29:57.399 --> 01:29:59.199
for what's really going on with Sport.

2047
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:00.479
Well, and it also gives us a chance to bring

2048
01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:01.640
up something that's going to come back here in a

2049
01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:04.079
little bit where Sport does all the chores of the

2050
01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:06.119
house and at one point is wearing a maid's outfit

2051
01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:08.479
as he's cleaning, and Harriet ends up taking a picture

2052
01:30:08.479 --> 01:30:11.119
of him, which is just between friends, right, Yeah, no

2053
01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:11.800
one's going to see it.

2054
01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:14.039
When they catch her spying, they just laugh it off. Yeah,

2055
01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:16.520
they just got like, well, because he knows Harriet's a spot.

2056
01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:16.920
Yeah.

2057
01:30:17.479 --> 01:30:19.680
But but yeah, So now the tag scene is the

2058
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:20.479
tag scene.

2059
01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:22.560
They're they're having a great fun, the kids are playing.

2060
01:30:22.600 --> 01:30:25.039
But as this is going on, Harriet lets down her

2061
01:30:25.119 --> 01:30:27.880
guard and leaves her notebook unattended, and it just so

2062
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:30.199
happens that Marian Hawthorne finds it.

2063
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:34.439
And she begins reading through it, sharing some of Harriet's

2064
01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:36.720
cruel opinions of everybody.

2065
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:39.079
And everybody's hearing we're hearing this, and the kids are

2066
01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:40.840
having the effects to it, like the boy and the

2067
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:45.920
socks hearing about I tries to the girl with the

2068
01:30:46.239 --> 01:30:48.640
face like puts her face down, like I mean we're

2069
01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:50.319
just seeing all this take and.

2070
01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:51.479
She said, just grew breast.

2071
01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:54.279
Just laugh, just laugh. Yeah. And then we get to

2072
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:57.199
you know, Marian is still reading. And that's when Janie

2073
01:30:57.239 --> 01:30:58.600
and is like, you know, well how about you know,

2074
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:00.520
I beat it out of you, and that she's like, well,

2075
01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:01.920
I don't want to hear what she says about you.

2076
01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:04.199
Yeah, and but then she and and this is also

2077
01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:07.319
the big thing is Mary and Hawthorne doesn't just read.

2078
01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:09.680
She reads the mean parts only. Yeah, not that the

2079
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:11.640
nice parts were super nice, but she reads only the

2080
01:31:11.680 --> 01:31:14.039
mean parts. Yeah, and her tone of voice makes it

2081
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:16.760
so much worse. She says, she thinks you'll you're you'll

2082
01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:18.239
end up being a crazy person.

2083
01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:19.920
Yeah, well no Janie reads it.

2084
01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:22.119
Oh yeah, but she reads out a loud a bunch

2085
01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:22.760
She reads.

2086
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:23.520
Out a lout of a bunch of them. Yeah. But

2087
01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:25.600
Janie actually because she's like here, because she holds it

2088
01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:26.800
up to her, and that's when she takes it and

2089
01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:29.199
she's just like, you know, will she be lenious or

2090
01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:32.119
end up in jail? And then sport I don't even

2091
01:31:32.159 --> 01:31:35.359
think really hears much except for the thing about with

2092
01:31:35.479 --> 01:31:37.000
the money that well, well.

2093
01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:40.239
What what what she said that would hurt sport because

2094
01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:44.520
it wasn't filtered was and because she's a child. Yeah,

2095
01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:47.640
is I don't understand why sports dad just can't get

2096
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:50.520
a better job, a job to take better care.

2097
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:51.960
Of sports, Like you know, I have to go home.

2098
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:52.800
It's spaghetti and night.

2099
01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:54.119
Oh that broke my heart.

2100
01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:57.239
Holy shit. Yeah, yeah, there's so many sad moments of

2101
01:31:57.279 --> 01:31:58.159
this scene. It's critical.

2102
01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:00.439
Yeah. He literally goes, I have to go it'spaghetti and

2103
01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:02.880
I've got to make spaghetti. I can't be here, and

2104
01:32:02.920 --> 01:32:03.760
he just leaves.

2105
01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:06.279
Leaves, and so by this point, Marian puts down the

2106
01:32:06.359 --> 01:32:08.159
lawnch She's just like, you go sit over there till

2107
01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:09.479
we figure out what to do with.

2108
01:32:09.560 --> 01:32:10.920
You, and then just keep you, which is a hell

2109
01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:12.520
of a line, until we figure out what to do

2110
01:32:12.720 --> 01:32:13.479
with you. Yeah.

2111
01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:17.640
So this inspires Marian to have the Spy Catcher Club

2112
01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:20.760
and basically has every single kid that's not Harriet join it.

2113
01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:23.000
Harriet's life becomes a living hell. She's on the bench

2114
01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:25.760
one day reading or writing, and all the kids surround

2115
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:30.720
her banging on trash can lids. They torment her nonstopah.

2116
01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:35.960
And basically make sure that any attempt to spy is thwarted. Yes,

2117
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:40.680
So if she's hanging out with her binoculars, people are like, hey,

2118
01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:43.760
spies over here, you know, and they're yeah, they're just

2119
01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:46.520
terrorizing her and also reminding her constantly of all the

2120
01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:50.039
mean things she said and how nobody appreciates her opinion.

2121
01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:53.000
And naturally, this also leads to her neglecting her schoolwork.

2122
01:32:53.079 --> 01:32:55.800
Her parents get concerned. They talk with miss Ellison, and

2123
01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:58.479
now there is a daily notebook check. All of her

2124
01:32:58.520 --> 01:32:59.479
notebooks are confiscate.

2125
01:32:59.520 --> 01:32:59.640
Yea.

2126
01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:03.239
They don't her writing anything anymore. Yeah, to the point where, yeah,

2127
01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:06.279
they're having them. They're having her notebooks checked at school, Yeah,

2128
01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:07.520
which is kind of crazy.

2129
01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:10.159
It's a good I mean the fact that Ellison does

2130
01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:11.880
it in front of the entire class, like doesn't pull

2131
01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:13.560
her out in the hall and do it like literally

2132
01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:16.800
all the kids are laughing. Yeah, they all laughing. She

2133
01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:18.600
has to stand up, she has to get padded down.

2134
01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:21.239
I mean, it's it's crazy. So this all culminates to

2135
01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:25.399
a scene during art class. Yes, and they're all doing

2136
01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:28.399
their little paintings of blue paint. We see that Harriet

2137
01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:30.960
is walking over with her tub and we also see

2138
01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:34.760
another kid coming behind her dumps blue paint all over her.

2139
01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:37.680
This inspires Mary and to come over and start helping,

2140
01:33:37.840 --> 01:33:40.640
but instead she's actually taking paper towels and wiping and

2141
01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:42.079
pouring more onto her.

2142
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:45.960
But then Harriet just hauls off in smacks face, which

2143
01:33:46.680 --> 01:33:49.840
was very visually interesting because it left a perfect blue

2144
01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:56.000
hand for the yests. So now we enter into dark Harriet.

2145
01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:59.039
But we go into My favorite scene is the ending

2146
01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:01.720
of this scene where she runs home, fills a bathtub

2147
01:34:01.800 --> 01:34:04.279
with water, and just dives in as the blue paint

2148
01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:06.520
comes off of her. And I love that shot always.

2149
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:08.199
It's been a memorable shot ever since I've seen this.

2150
01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:12.720
The whole thing is very memorable, and again very It's

2151
01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:15.800
tough because you know, you want to feel bad for Harriet,

2152
01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:18.479
you know, for being bullied. Yeah, and I remember as

2153
01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:20.439
a kid feeling bad for her for being bullied, but

2154
01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:22.399
she was also being kind of a bully in her.

2155
01:34:22.359 --> 01:34:23.439
Way, especially now.

2156
01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:26.600
But but well, well that's why I said we're entering dark,

2157
01:34:26.720 --> 01:34:28.560
dark Harriot because.

2158
01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:30.239
Nowrriot, sweet Harriet.

2159
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:37.159
Oh gosh, so love now she Since she can't have

2160
01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:41.439
a notebook, she takes her compass a writing compass, yeah,

2161
01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:45.479
art compass, and carves the names in her desk of

2162
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:46.119
all the kids.

2163
01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:49.479
When I was revisiting this this week, I was really

2164
01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:52.520
really shocked that that doesn't come back at some point,

2165
01:34:52.760 --> 01:34:54.960
because like, that's destruction of school property.

2166
01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:58.279
For one, she did kids not carve up their desks

2167
01:34:58.279 --> 01:34:58.840
in your school.

2168
01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:03.199
For two, it's not quiet. It's not quiet while she's

2169
01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:05.439
doing it, Like no, they're watching a film on a

2170
01:35:05.479 --> 01:35:08.600
projector and she is just carving away.

2171
01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:10.840
For the record. I think the reason she can get

2172
01:35:10.840 --> 01:35:13.039
away with that, in part is because this is phase

2173
01:35:13.119 --> 01:35:16.000
two of the anti Spy Club, which is basically ignoring her. Yeah,

2174
01:35:16.039 --> 01:35:18.920
because they're only two. The only thing worse than everybody

2175
01:35:19.039 --> 01:35:20.760
looking at you and making fun of you, yeah, is

2176
01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:22.880
people literally just turning their backs that don't want anything

2177
01:35:22.920 --> 01:35:23.279
to do well.

2178
01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:24.640
And that was the start of the anti spy club.

2179
01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:26.279
As she comes in, you know, the next day, into

2180
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:29.880
school and Sporta is ignoring her, sports ignoring her, Janey's

2181
01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:31.920
ignoring her, and she realizes that she no longer has

2182
01:35:31.960 --> 01:35:34.319
any friends. And then after the pain incident, all bets

2183
01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:36.960
are off. So she carves this name and she gets

2184
01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:39.119
into a list of revenge that includes cutting the one

2185
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:39.680
girl's hair.

2186
01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:43.800
Oh that one messed with me even a lot now

2187
01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:47.960
because That was something Bully's threatened me with all the time,

2188
01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:50.039
was that they were gonna cut my hair while I

2189
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:50.760
was at my desk.

2190
01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:53.079
I got hair plucked while I was on the bus,

2191
01:35:53.479 --> 01:35:56.039
which is why I stopped. I mean, there's a multitude

2192
01:35:56.079 --> 01:35:58.039
reasons I stopped riding the bus, but one of the

2193
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:01.000
ones being that I started getting tormented to a point

2194
01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:02.399
where I was just like two mile bike ride in

2195
01:36:02.439 --> 01:36:02.760
the morning.

2196
01:36:02.840 --> 01:36:05.520
Fuck it, I mean I was spit on. Yeah, bust,

2197
01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:08.359
that was. That was pretty rough. Yeah. When I tell

2198
01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:12.600
people that, I always forget until I see their reaction,

2199
01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:15.239
how mortified they are that I used to have to

2200
01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:18.039
wash my hair and my backpack every day after school

2201
01:36:18.039 --> 01:36:19.119
because it would be covered in spit.

2202
01:36:19.279 --> 01:36:21.279
I had my backpack sliced open one so that was

2203
01:36:21.680 --> 01:36:22.600
really not cool.

2204
01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:24.840
By a knife, some kind of blade.

2205
01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:27.199
I don't know what it was. I just I think

2206
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:29.319
it was an exact a knife. Oh, I could do

2207
01:36:29.359 --> 01:36:31.399
it too, or just like one of those blades. But yeah,

2208
01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:33.840
So she cuts the one girl's hair. She scribbles inside

2209
01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:35.479
the one girl's locker that has all the pictures of

2210
01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:38.399
the the pictures of the pop star. We also get

2211
01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:42.800
a taste of sports made picture being printed and put

2212
01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:45.800
all over the school. Janie's experiments fucked with when she

2213
01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:47.640
turns on a bunch and burn her hotter and boils

2214
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:50.640
it over. And then the piece that resistance, I would say,

2215
01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:54.039
is marian is told that her dad, Well.

2216
01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:57.359
This one's just cruel. She just looks at Maryann.

2217
01:36:57.119 --> 01:36:59.359
Looks at Marian in the bathroom, tells her that she

2218
01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:02.359
heard her parents talking and that her dad has not

2219
01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:04.119
seen her in next about of years, lives at a

2220
01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:06.439
different place because he had an affair with his secretary,

2221
01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:09.079
and sends her what sends her a gift every year.

2222
01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:10.000
And that's basically about it.

2223
01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:11.479
Yeah, I said, he lives this far away and he

2224
01:37:11.520 --> 01:37:13.720
hasn't visited you in three years.

2225
01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:17.640
Yeah, and I mean naturally marian doesn't take that.

2226
01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:20.560
Well, well, then she puts the coup de grasd because

2227
01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:25.880
he doesn't love you. That's the part that that Yeah,

2228
01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:29.199
that that look yeah that, And then you finally feel

2229
01:37:29.239 --> 01:37:30.479
bad for Marianne a little bit.

2230
01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:33.319
Oh yeah, I mean, Marianne at this point runs off.

2231
01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:36.359
So then we get to Harriet back at home and

2232
01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:39.000
we hear her parents calling her down. She does not

2233
01:37:39.119 --> 01:37:40.680
move from the bed, and by this point too, she's

2234
01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:41.239
so depressed.

2235
01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:41.800
She's so sad.

2236
01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:43.560
Even though she's doing these things to get the revenge

2237
01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:46.119
that would make her feel better, it's not. She's lost

2238
01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:48.840
her friends, all this stuff. So it gets to a

2239
01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:52.039
point where her parents are talking to her and she's,

2240
01:37:52.520 --> 01:37:54.560
you know, trying to tell them that she's fine. They

2241
01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:56.880
start bickering right by her. She tells them I'm fine,

2242
01:37:56.920 --> 01:37:59.800
I'm fine, and screams it throws something, and they're just like, no,

2243
01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:01.880
I don't think you are fine. And we see them

2244
01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:03.880
taking her to a child psychologist.

2245
01:38:03.479 --> 01:38:06.279
Which honestly was probably the best possible thing for her,

2246
01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:08.600
and we have kind of what's become a cliche the

2247
01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:11.800
psychologist for the kids, like uh. And then the psychologist

2248
01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:14.000
is like, what if we play a game? And he

2249
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:17.720
pulls out like a old nineteen seventies rock'em sockem robot.

2250
01:38:17.520 --> 01:38:19.479
Puts his hat on backwards, sits backwards in a chair.

2251
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:22.680
Up psychologists, let's wrap a bunch of problems.

2252
01:38:22.880 --> 01:38:25.279
But yeah, she's like, you know, why does a grown

2253
01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:27.119
adult have this many games? And he's like, you know, well,

2254
01:38:27.159 --> 01:38:28.720
you know, I know you have toys at home. Yeah,

2255
01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:30.920
And so we even get to a point of they're

2256
01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:33.720
playing rock' soccer robots and she's kicking his ass. He's

2257
01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:35.399
writing notes down and she's just like, what are you doing.

2258
01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:37.520
He's like, oh, just writing, and she's like can I

2259
01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:40.680
or how does it happen? Because he offers the notebook?

2260
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:42.960
Yeah, I think he says, would you like to see

2261
01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:43.800
what I'm writing? Yeah?

2262
01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:45.560
Yeah, And that's when he's like, well, how would I

2263
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:47.159
give you a notebook of your own? The rest of

2264
01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:49.439
the session is spent. She's back writing, and then he's like,

2265
01:38:49.600 --> 01:38:51.079
you know, well, Harry, it's time to go. Can I

2266
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:53.359
keep the notebook? I'll talk to your parents.

2267
01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:56.039
Yeah, And you can see, you know, her light up

2268
01:38:56.079 --> 01:38:58.520
again because this is just so important to you.

2269
01:38:59.399 --> 01:39:01.880
So you see that she starts doing better. She's playing

2270
01:39:01.920 --> 01:39:03.319
with her dad one day. Her mom and her dad

2271
01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:05.520
are sitting on the herb and she's doing the what

2272
01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:08.720
is that thing called? Oh well, it's like an orgami,

2273
01:39:09.079 --> 01:39:13.239
the orgami fortune tell fortune teller. Yeah, and you know,

2274
01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:14.760
she's to ask her dad to pick one. He's like,

2275
01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:16.359
turn around and she's like, that's not what it says.

2276
01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:19.279
He goes, no, turn around, But actually it's not his voice.

2277
01:39:19.359 --> 01:39:22.359
It's Golly's voice, because Golly is back to visit her

2278
01:39:22.399 --> 01:39:23.000
for a little bit.

2279
01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:25.000
Yeah, which makes sense. I mean, why would she want

2280
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:27.720
to stay away entirely anyway? And she probably had heard

2281
01:39:28.199 --> 01:39:31.600
that Harriet's been happening. Yeah, and who better to help

2282
01:39:31.640 --> 01:39:34.000
her than one of her greatest confidants. Yeah.

2283
01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:36.199
The thing I like about that scene too is you

2284
01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:38.039
get that's when you get a full shot of her

2285
01:39:38.119 --> 01:39:39.960
mom on the stoop with her dad, and her mom

2286
01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:42.239
is smiling like at Golly's presence being there, And I

2287
01:39:42.319 --> 01:39:45.239
do like that little detail absolutely so. Naturally, she tells

2288
01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:48.119
Golly what she's done, and you know, Golly basically breaks

2289
01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:49.800
it down to her that you know, you've gotta you

2290
01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:52.560
gotta atone for these horrible things. You gotta you know,

2291
01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:54.560
you have really good friends. You don't want to hurt

2292
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:55.920
them because of stupid things like this.

2293
01:39:56.399 --> 01:39:56.600
Yeah.

2294
01:39:57.399 --> 01:39:58.159
I love this scene.

2295
01:39:58.319 --> 01:40:01.600
No, it's it's and it's important because because Harriet becoming

2296
01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:06.000
a little shit is a valuable lesson for kids watching it,

2297
01:40:06.159 --> 01:40:08.600
because all of us are going to be little shits.

2298
01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:11.000
Yeah at some points, and like I said, we just

2299
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:13.880
you know, we all hope that the kids gain empathy.

2300
01:40:14.079 --> 01:40:17.640
Well, Golly tells her two specific things she has to apologize,

2301
01:40:18.119 --> 01:40:19.840
but she also has to lie, and she's like, what

2302
01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:21.359
do you mean, lye, And she's like, you know, well,

2303
01:40:22.279 --> 01:40:24.359
you can think those things about people, but you don't

2304
01:40:24.399 --> 01:40:25.800
want to tell them. You want to, you know, you

2305
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:27.119
want to be friendly with and you want to make

2306
01:40:27.159 --> 01:40:28.600
them feel good. If you tell them the truth of

2307
01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:30.079
what you think about them, and it could be the

2308
01:40:30.119 --> 01:40:32.399
truth about them, it's not gonna make them feel very good.

2309
01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:34.439
So you have to apologize to them to get them back,

2310
01:40:35.079 --> 01:40:36.600
and lie to them sometimes.

2311
01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:40.399
Yeah, small lies to make people not feel bad about themselves.

2312
01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:41.279
They're not harmful.

2313
01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:44.880
No, So that's when, you know, Golly basically tells her,

2314
01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:47.680
you know it is it's worth it in this sense,

2315
01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:49.239
because Harriet's like, you know, well, it's not worth it

2316
01:40:49.279 --> 01:40:50.680
to apologize, and she's like, it's worth it to be

2317
01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:53.399
an individual. No, it's a really good I love it.

2318
01:40:53.439 --> 01:40:55.279
I love that One's such a good scene. Yeah, and

2319
01:40:55.359 --> 01:40:58.279
her individuality is what makes others nervous. And that's when

2320
01:40:58.319 --> 01:41:00.159
she basically again is telling her you have to say

2321
01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:02.159
true to your nature, but in doing so you also

2322
01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:03.680
have to be kind about it.

2323
01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:07.359
Yeah. No, it's great and this is what blew me

2324
01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:10.960
away revisiting it because honestly, I might have watched it

2325
01:41:11.079 --> 01:41:13.920
once in my early twenties. Yeah, I hadn't watched it since.

2326
01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:18.159
So it's been probably fifteen to twenty years since I've

2327
01:41:18.239 --> 01:41:21.640
watched this movie. Yeah, and the heart of it is

2328
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:23.399
exactly where I remember it. Yeah.

2329
01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:25.720
So she ends it by saying, good friends are one

2330
01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:27.880
of life's blessings. Don't give them up without a fight.

2331
01:41:28.279 --> 01:41:28.840
Great line.

2332
01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:32.039
So she tries to make amends with Sport, and that's

2333
01:41:32.039 --> 01:41:34.840
when we find out that sports Dad has gotten a

2334
01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:38.079
successful gig because he's gotten he's gotten his advance, he's

2335
01:41:38.079 --> 01:41:39.840
got in his check which is what ten thousand dollars

2336
01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:40.560
And he says.

2337
01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:42.319
Ten thousand dollars, but that's in nineteen ninety six months,

2338
01:41:42.359 --> 01:41:44.800
so that's like eight million dollars. No, it's a lot

2339
01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:47.960
of money, and especially for them when they weren't, you know, homeless. No,

2340
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:49.279
they just were struggling.

2341
01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:49.920
They're struggling.

2342
01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:53.239
And the way he talks to Sport, how excited is

2343
01:41:53.279 --> 01:41:53.680
how he's like.

2344
01:41:53.760 --> 01:41:55.560
He's those nikes at the straps and the buckles.

2345
01:41:55.640 --> 01:41:59.039
Yeah, no more, no more having to buy milk and

2346
01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:02.720
milk with change. And then he said, then spaghetti only

2347
01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:04.720
when we want it. Yeah, we can have steak if

2348
01:42:04.760 --> 01:42:07.399
we want to. And then Harriet you know, pops into

2349
01:42:07.439 --> 01:42:10.000
say congratulations, how does it feel to you know, to

2350
01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:12.479
be a writer? Yeah, and he's like it's amazing, It's

2351
01:42:12.479 --> 01:42:15.000
a dream. And then she says awesome. He's like, we

2352
01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:16.560
should all go to dinner. We'll go somewhere I love

2353
01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:18.279
the slices. We'll go somewhere really fancy and.

2354
01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:19.319
Just abuse the waiter.

2355
01:42:19.520 --> 01:42:22.119
Yeah, and sports like, oh, Harriet can't yeah, and he's like,

2356
01:42:22.159 --> 01:42:22.880
what do you mean she can't.

2357
01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:26.000
Yeah, she's yeah, and he shuts the window on her,

2358
01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:28.159
basically telling her, you know, fuck off. At this point,

2359
01:42:28.239 --> 01:42:31.159
and same thing with Jane goes to Jane sneaks into

2360
01:42:31.239 --> 01:42:33.479
Janie's sneaks of Janie's window, and Janie's not happy to

2361
01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:35.000
see her, even shows at the door and tells.

2362
01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:38.199
Her again well and by by sabotaging Jane's experiment, it

2363
01:42:38.359 --> 01:42:40.960
exploded on her mother. So now Janie's not allowed to

2364
01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:43.319
do her thing either, just like Harriet wasn't allowed to

2365
01:42:43.359 --> 01:42:44.199
write in a notebook.

2366
01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:46.279
And so Janey puts her right outside the door, and

2367
01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:47.840
that's when she basically looks at the door and she

2368
01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:51.960
goes I'm sorry, Janey, okay, and is again just trying

2369
01:42:52.039 --> 01:42:54.159
to make amends, but you know, she's really hurt her friends,

2370
01:42:54.159 --> 01:42:55.920
so it's not just going to be as simple sorry

2371
01:42:55.960 --> 01:42:58.760
at this point. So we've also one thing we missed

2372
01:42:58.760 --> 01:43:02.000
by this point is that Mary suggested that their holiday

2373
01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:05.279
play or their their yearly play be a celebration of

2374
01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:10.279
healthy foods. Yeah, and this is leading us to the best,

2375
01:43:10.399 --> 01:43:13.600
the best climax of this movie, where Harriet is in

2376
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:15.600
class with all our students and the teacher is telling them,

2377
01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:17.239
you know, the guys start thinking about the play, and

2378
01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:19.119
that's when Harriet raises her hand and she says, you know,

2379
01:43:19.159 --> 01:43:21.720
miss Elison, I've been thinking, I don't think it's fair

2380
01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:23.840
for the class president to both be the class president

2381
01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:26.760
as well as the newspaper writer. And I would like

2382
01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:29.520
to nominate myself as the newspaper writer. And she's like,

2383
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:31.159
you know, okay, well this is interesting. You know, well,

2384
01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:33.279
who else you know would would like to see Harriet

2385
01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:35.640
become the writer. We see some hands go up a

2386
01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:38.000
little bit, but one of my the the best thing

2387
01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:40.159
about the scene is the boy in the purple socks

2388
01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:41.600
finally speaks, and.

2389
01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:43.600
That was the other thing is. He's known for his

2390
01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:45.880
purple socks and never talking, never talk, and drules while

2391
01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:47.840
he sleeps too. Yeah, yeah, because he falls asleep in

2392
01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:48.359
class a lot.

2393
01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:52.720
And he delivers this beautiful little dialogue of basically saying,

2394
01:43:52.760 --> 01:43:54.920
you know, well, I think you know we I think

2395
01:43:54.960 --> 01:43:56.840
I would like to have Harriet as the writer because

2396
01:43:56.920 --> 01:43:58.880
different people need to write, and we need to, you know,

2397
01:43:58.960 --> 01:44:01.600
hear people's different different opinions, otherwise we're all going to

2398
01:44:01.640 --> 01:44:02.319
have the same opinion.

2399
01:44:02.359 --> 01:44:04.960
Well, and Harriet politicked it pretty well. Yeah, she didn't

2400
01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:09.359
say that the class president shouldn't be allowed to do it. Yeah,

2401
01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:11.439
she said, I think that's too much, too much for

2402
01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:14.439
one person to do. Yeah, and yeah, the kid in

2403
01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:16.119
the purple sox he chimes in and says like we

2404
01:44:16.199 --> 01:44:19.079
need different voices and whatever, because he's actually smart.

2405
01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:22.560
He's very smart. Yeah, So naturally the class decides to

2406
01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:24.880
raise their hands. Harriet's elected the writer. We see her

2407
01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:26.920
take out a typewriter on her bed back at home

2408
01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:29.600
and starts typing. And that's when we close the movie

2409
01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:31.960
with just a montage of things that we see, Like

2410
01:44:32.079 --> 01:44:35.439
we see that George, who is the fruit thief, is

2411
01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:38.680
actually giving the fruit and vegetable way to these children

2412
01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:39.640
that are behind, and.

2413
01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:42.319
He's be and with the blessing to the restaurant because

2414
01:44:42.319 --> 01:44:44.000
he ends up doing it with the owner. She's like,

2415
01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:46.439
oh no, no, give them more, yeah, give them more, yeah,

2416
01:44:46.720 --> 01:44:49.439
which I love, although I will say, upon rewatching it

2417
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:55.479
as an adult, they're like nineteenth century, just like errant children.

2418
01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:56.880
He's giving stuff to it. I was like, where are

2419
01:44:56.920 --> 01:44:58.439
all these ragamuffins coming from?

2420
01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:01.039
But Alissa, have you penny?

2421
01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:04.319
But it was, but it is a really sweet moment

2422
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:06.159
where you realized, like what he was actually doing is

2423
01:45:06.239 --> 01:45:11.840
being altruistic and kind when and sorry a little emotional, yeah,

2424
01:45:12.359 --> 01:45:15.079
but what's what's even more special is he wasn't just

2425
01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:18.000
being kind in helping people. He was doing it when

2426
01:45:18.079 --> 01:45:21.359
no one was looking, because that's just who he is.

2427
01:45:21.920 --> 01:45:24.199
It's not you know. And I'm I'm a big believer

2428
01:45:24.439 --> 01:45:27.039
in life that when people say like, oh, yeah, they

2429
01:45:27.079 --> 01:45:30.079
gave all that to charity, but like they wanted attention

2430
01:45:30.239 --> 01:45:32.119
or attax right or whatever it's I always say, I'm like,

2431
01:45:32.840 --> 01:45:35.960
but did that build a school? Like did it still help?

2432
01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:38.640
Or did the money not work? Because it was because

2433
01:45:38.680 --> 01:45:42.199
somebody wanted to feel good? Whatever is But there is

2434
01:45:42.319 --> 01:45:45.760
something very special about doing something with no desire for

2435
01:45:45.880 --> 01:45:48.119
any anything other than a good deed to be done.

2436
01:45:48.600 --> 01:45:51.520
And that's something that we that Harriet's realizing as she's

2437
01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:56.920
reframing her bit of spying that she's still doing. She's

2438
01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:00.600
realizing that she's not seeing people at their worst, she's

2439
01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:02.640
actually just seeing people at their truest.

2440
01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:03.279
That's the truest.

2441
01:46:03.399 --> 01:46:05.880
And if you just look closer, which I love because

2442
01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:08.359
there's a gag where basically she sticks her head through

2443
01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:10.560
the bars of the window, which almost gets her head

2444
01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:12.880
completely stuck, but by sticking your head further, she sees

2445
01:46:12.960 --> 01:46:16.000
the kids getting the food and realizes that I had

2446
01:46:16.039 --> 01:46:18.760
to take a closer look, which is a beautiful metaphor

2447
01:46:19.039 --> 01:46:22.560
combined with literal. You know, it's it's a wonderful moment. Yeah,

2448
01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:25.119
And we also find out that the Spy Anti Spy

2449
01:46:25.239 --> 01:46:26.680
Club is becoming a bunch of bull crap.

2450
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:29.079
One of my favorite moments of that though, is that

2451
01:46:29.399 --> 01:46:33.119
we see that Marian and her assistant or whatever are

2452
01:46:33.399 --> 01:46:36.000
giving them cake to build this clubhouse, but also they're

2453
01:46:36.039 --> 01:46:38.680
getting full sized pieces of cake bigger.

2454
01:46:38.399 --> 01:46:42.840
Than full size they're getting. Yeah, they're getting like little

2455
01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:45.000
slices and they're getting these giants that they're like, well

2456
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:48.239
as the leaders, we need our strength. So that is

2457
01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:50.239
the final straw, but I love it. She turns the

2458
01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:52.640
sports sports like this is crap or whatever, and she's like,

2459
01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:54.279
you don't have to be and he's like, you're right.

2460
01:46:54.840 --> 01:46:57.039
He gets up and leaves and grabs a handful of

2461
01:46:57.119 --> 01:46:59.319
cake on his way out, and that signals all the

2462
01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:01.159
kids to just get the hell out of there.

2463
01:47:01.279 --> 01:47:03.720
Yeah, so the spy Club is completely disbanded. Harriet ends

2464
01:47:03.800 --> 01:47:07.279
up apologizing to everybody. They also like her writing, like

2465
01:47:07.359 --> 01:47:09.560
she We see that they're enjoying her writing. And she's

2466
01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:12.279
also basically given up spying to do the newspaper writing,

2467
01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:13.359
which is which is great.

2468
01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:18.199
Yeah. And it's constructive, yeah, and it's helpful, and she

2469
01:47:18.840 --> 01:47:23.239
really does realize that, like, kindness is important, Yeah, empathy

2470
01:47:23.359 --> 01:47:27.039
is important. You don't know everything, even when you want to,

2471
01:47:27.159 --> 01:47:29.640
when you're trying to know everything, you don't know everything. Yeah.

2472
01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:31.079
And this is all in the article. This is that

2473
01:47:31.399 --> 01:47:33.239
we're hearing the article as she writes it, and we're

2474
01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:35.560
seeing this montage. So the article goes to the class,

2475
01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:38.199
the whole class sees it, and that's when we cut

2476
01:47:38.279 --> 01:47:41.279
to the finale, which is the play as we see

2477
01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:44.319
a stink bomb go off for one whoops. But then

2478
01:47:44.359 --> 01:47:46.359
the kids also break out into a dance and get

2479
01:47:46.439 --> 01:47:47.239
up off that thing.

2480
01:47:47.159 --> 01:47:50.239
And they just have fun. They're all dressed as food. Yeah,

2481
01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:52.640
so Harriet's an onion. Yeah, and they take out a

2482
01:47:52.720 --> 01:47:56.199
giant turkey baster and start limiting under. It is just

2483
01:47:56.680 --> 01:48:00.239
side note. Yeah, the most nineties thing that they have

2484
01:48:00.279 --> 01:48:04.199
added to it. I love that Limbo was a real

2485
01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:07.199
thing in ninety five ninety Like Limbo just was in

2486
01:48:07.479 --> 01:48:09.359
tons of stuff. It was because there was that period

2487
01:48:09.439 --> 01:48:12.119
of where like everybody loved everything Jamaican for like a

2488
01:48:12.159 --> 01:48:14.000
hot minute, and Limbo stuck.

2489
01:48:14.199 --> 01:48:16.520
It did stick. But one of the things I love

2490
01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:19.680
too is she apologized to everybody except Marian in the article.

2491
01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:22.439
But Marian accepts the apology because she realizes that she

2492
01:48:22.640 --> 01:48:23.199
was shitty too.

2493
01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:26.479
Yeah. No, and that's fair because Marian is a bully, yeah,

2494
01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:28.279
and she needs to work on that. But I think

2495
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:30.720
Harriet did realize that one of the reasons Marian is

2496
01:48:31.039 --> 01:48:33.760
the way she is is she's insecure. She does feel

2497
01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:37.039
like her father doesn't love her. Yeah, and it's it's hard,

2498
01:48:37.399 --> 01:48:38.880
I know what, because you came in when I was

2499
01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:41.439
finishing the movie, and I remember at one point you

2500
01:48:41.479 --> 01:48:43.560
were just kind of like, you know, man, that must

2501
01:48:43.560 --> 01:48:46.199
be rough, and I was like, whatever, your dad always

2502
01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:46.680
loved you.

2503
01:48:47.039 --> 01:48:48.359
I think it was more so the fact that, like,

2504
01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:51.079
that's probably the harshest thing that Harriet does in her

2505
01:48:51.119 --> 01:48:53.880
exacting revenge is telling somebody that your parent doesn't love you.

2506
01:48:54.039 --> 01:48:56.239
So it was it was brutal. No, it was brutal.

2507
01:48:56.279 --> 01:48:59.640
And and that's kind of the thing, is like a

2508
01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:03.159
very adult moment is learning that just because you can

2509
01:49:03.359 --> 01:49:06.000
hurt somebody, just because you can get a dig in

2510
01:49:06.119 --> 01:49:08.600
and win, doesn't mean you Shouldn't mean you should. It

2511
01:49:08.680 --> 01:49:10.479
doesn't mean that just because somebody's meaning you doesn't mean

2512
01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:12.600
they deserve it either. No, So that's important.

2513
01:49:12.720 --> 01:49:15.039
So yeah, that is the end of nineteen ninety six.

2514
01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:16.840
Is Harriet the Spy.

2515
01:49:17.159 --> 01:49:18.880
And it's a damn fine film.

2516
01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:20.319
Damn fine movie. So do you want to guess what

2517
01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:21.199
the budget was on it?

2518
01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:21.720
Uh?

2519
01:49:22.800 --> 01:49:25.920
Eight million, twelve million? Okay, it's close budget of twelve million.

2520
01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:28.560
It opens July fourteenth, and nineteen ninety six and makes

2521
01:49:28.720 --> 01:49:31.840
six million opening weekend worldwide, ends up grossing twenty six

2522
01:49:31.920 --> 01:49:33.680
million five hundred and seventy thousand dollars.

2523
01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:36.439
That's bad. I'm sure they cleaned up on home video video.

2524
01:49:36.520 --> 01:49:39.840
They probably end a lot and think about when it

2525
01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:43.079
was time to show it on Nickelodeon. Most of the

2526
01:49:43.159 --> 01:49:44.319
license fee would be nothing.

2527
01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:47.439
Well and correct me if I'm wrong. But is this

2528
01:49:47.640 --> 01:49:49.000
the first Orange VHS?

2529
01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:50.840
I don't know for sure.

2530
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:51.680
I think it might be.

2531
01:49:52.079 --> 01:49:53.840
It could be, but there were a lot of Nickelodeon

2532
01:49:53.880 --> 01:49:56.840
home videos. I don't know if they Yeah, there's I

2533
01:49:56.880 --> 01:49:59.239
couldn't say for sure. Yeah, that's one thing where I

2534
01:49:59.359 --> 01:50:03.920
really don't know because Orange was so synonymous with Nickelodeon. Yeah,

2535
01:50:04.239 --> 01:50:06.920
so they were so good at branding. They owned a

2536
01:50:07.039 --> 01:50:09.039
color from the rainbow, they did, indeed.

2537
01:50:09.720 --> 01:50:12.880
So they filmed in Fort Lauderdale, Miami, Florida. They also

2538
01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:16.439
filmed in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Broaden When commented, it was

2539
01:50:16.479 --> 01:50:19.800
Paramount's financial decision to make Toronto look like New York. Although,

2540
01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:21.960
to tell you the truth, nothing looks like a row

2541
01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:24.079
of brownstones and stoops like New York. So we just

2542
01:50:24.079 --> 01:50:26.760
started choosing great locations to create a visual experience.

2543
01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:27.520
That's awesome.

2544
01:50:27.640 --> 01:50:31.199
Yeah, this was Nickelodeon's first feature film. The screenplay was

2545
01:50:31.239 --> 01:50:34.239
adapted from Louise Fitzherg's nineteen sixty four novel of the

2546
01:50:34.279 --> 01:50:36.920
same name director Brown. When Hughes commented on the adaptation,

2547
01:50:37.119 --> 01:50:39.960
certain things about the sixty story, especially the relationship between

2548
01:50:39.960 --> 01:50:41.840
the kids and their parents, had to be adjusted to

2549
01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:44.119
make sense because you don't have that same kind of

2550
01:50:44.159 --> 01:50:45.960
formality that you had in the book in the sixties

2551
01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:48.319
between the parents and the kids. So those things needed

2552
01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:50.640
to be made more natural for nineties kids. But it

2553
01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:52.520
was very important to me that the things that really

2554
01:50:52.600 --> 01:50:54.640
affected Harriet in the book would be things that really

2555
01:50:54.680 --> 01:50:57.439
affected Harriet in the movie. The result mixed elements from

2556
01:50:57.479 --> 01:51:00.399
various decades, but Hughes aspired to create a time film

2557
01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:02.960
that featured a little technology, because in all honesty, it doesn't.

2558
01:51:03.199 --> 01:51:05.279
Yeah, it's almost I think there's a telephone. Yeah.

2559
01:51:06.079 --> 01:51:07.960
The letters that Harriet writes on the top corners of

2560
01:51:07.960 --> 01:51:10.439
the pages and her notebook spell everybody hates.

2561
01:51:10.319 --> 01:51:11.760
Me, damn.

2562
01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:15.840
Yeah. Michelle Trachtenberg opted out of Matilda in favor for

2563
01:51:15.920 --> 01:51:16.319
this film.

2564
01:51:16.880 --> 01:51:20.159
I I think she would be a little old for Matilda.

2565
01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:22.000
I think so too, Yeah, so, but I think that was.

2566
01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:23.600
I think it turned out the way of supos Yeah.

2567
01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:26.920
Many theatrical versions included the pilot episode of HAYRLD as

2568
01:51:26.960 --> 01:51:28.359
a short before the start of the film.

2569
01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:28.760
Wow.

2570
01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:33.239
Rosie O'Donnell Oh Golly remembers reading the novel when she

2571
01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:34.760
was ten years old and it was one of her

2572
01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:37.279
favorite novels as a child. She immediately accepted the role

2573
01:51:37.359 --> 01:51:39.279
of old Golly when it was offered to her as

2574
01:51:39.319 --> 01:51:41.000
a result without reading the script first.

2575
01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:43.119
I'm sure the money didn't hurt either.

2576
01:51:43.199 --> 01:51:45.640
I'm sure it didn't. Michelle in real life was a

2577
01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:48.439
huge fan of tomato sandwiches and spent many days on

2578
01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:50.760
set consuming whole tomatoes as a snack. She was also

2579
01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:52.560
a big fan of the books, so she was very

2580
01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:54.439
happy to accept the role when she got the call.

2581
01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:57.079
That was another thing. By the way, there's making her

2582
01:51:57.119 --> 01:51:59.840
own tomato sandwiches, and every day she's tomato sandwiches with

2583
01:52:01.159 --> 01:52:03.880
and her mom's like, don't you want to try something different?

2584
01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:06.119
Roast beef.

2585
01:52:06.199 --> 01:52:09.079
I was a kid who preferred to eat for a

2586
01:52:09.199 --> 01:52:10.760
very long time, preferred to eat the same thing.

2587
01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:11.359
No shit.

2588
01:52:11.600 --> 01:52:14.000
Oh, but I was a picky eater. Dude. It's hard

2589
01:52:14.039 --> 01:52:15.720
to believe that now, because I will I will eat

2590
01:52:15.760 --> 01:52:17.039
anything put in front of me. You don't have to

2591
01:52:17.159 --> 01:52:17.760
agree that much.

2592
01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:20.159
It's more so that like finding out the tay nine

2593
01:52:20.159 --> 01:52:22.199
officially has a ninth spice level. I want to see

2594
01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:25.199
you take it down after watching you eat hot oils.

2595
01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:27.600
I want to see that as long as nobody vapes

2596
01:52:27.640 --> 01:52:30.880
on my food. First at I'm sorry tynine, I just

2597
01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:34.239
I had in my neighborhood. We had one of the

2598
01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:37.000
best Tai restaurants I've ever eaten at. And it closed

2599
01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:39.039
and that broke my heart. They said they were going

2600
01:52:39.079 --> 01:52:39.840
to reopen and they never did.

2601
01:52:39.960 --> 01:52:41.920
I'm sorry. Did taynine close on your birthday when you

2602
01:52:41.960 --> 01:52:42.880
made reservations too?

2603
01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:45.079
No? I would never be so foolish. No, that's no,

2604
01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:47.399
that's crappy too. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like I

2605
01:52:47.800 --> 01:52:50.000
had a tie, like I had a Thai restaurant that

2606
01:52:50.159 --> 01:52:52.399
was in the corner that was so nice. I would

2607
01:52:52.439 --> 01:52:55.399
take people from California who came here to do work

2608
01:52:55.439 --> 01:52:58.119
and stuff there and they would go, this is incredible.

2609
01:52:58.600 --> 01:53:00.479
And those people are hard to impress, you know, when

2610
01:53:00.479 --> 01:53:01.760
they hear O, We're gonna have typ food. No high.

2611
01:53:01.760 --> 01:53:05.079
It was not the place we went after filming Haunting

2612
01:53:05.119 --> 01:53:07.319
Inside with Yes okay thoughts.

2613
01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:09.000
So yeah, and I took bring Stevens there as well.

2614
01:53:09.119 --> 01:53:12.680
I took everybody I could there. Yeah, because I discovered

2615
01:53:12.720 --> 01:53:14.960
that place with a friend when I was eighteen years

2616
01:53:14.960 --> 01:53:16.640
old and it was it's like it was like a

2617
01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:19.199
little hole in the wall. Yeah, and nobody seemed to

2618
01:53:19.279 --> 01:53:20.920
know about it. And then I move away. I come

2619
01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:23.319
back three years later and that place is packed every Friday.

2620
01:53:23.319 --> 01:53:25.800
I would never go even for takeout on Fridays because

2621
01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:26.439
it was so busy.

2622
01:53:26.560 --> 01:53:26.760
Yeah.

2623
01:53:26.800 --> 01:53:27.880
So anyway, the.

2624
01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:30.520
Young child actors commented that Rosie O'Donnell was basically a

2625
01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:33.439
big kid. O'Donnell commented that Golly was a childlike spirit

2626
01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:35.399
and grown adult with the message to the kids to

2627
01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:37.880
always stay true to your nature, a message that anybody

2628
01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:38.920
can use at any time.

2629
01:53:39.159 --> 01:53:39.640
Damn right.

2630
01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:42.920
Bronwyn was known to wear many different hats on set,

2631
01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:46.399
both figuratively and literally, would snap her fingers to get

2632
01:53:46.439 --> 01:53:48.680
points across while directing, and was said to have a

2633
01:53:48.760 --> 01:53:51.159
great artistic sense and visual style. That is one thing

2634
01:53:51.159 --> 01:53:52.840
I don't think we talked about enough in this movie

2635
01:53:53.039 --> 01:53:55.520
is the shot style in the directing style of this

2636
01:53:55.680 --> 01:53:57.840
movie is very creative.

2637
01:53:58.079 --> 01:54:01.279
Yeah, and it looks like an older film, Yeah, a

2638
01:54:01.319 --> 01:54:03.319
little bit, And I think that's on purpose to kind

2639
01:54:03.359 --> 01:54:04.880
of give it a reality.

2640
01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:07.119
Especially those scenes in the Artist Park. Like the style

2641
01:54:07.199 --> 01:54:08.079
that's in those scenes as well.

2642
01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:10.039
It's very very beautiful. I mean it's it's a film

2643
01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:14.720
where unfortunately, but fortunately, the content's so good and the

2644
01:54:14.800 --> 01:54:16.760
direction feeds it so well, you just kind of don't

2645
01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:18.840
notice it, which is honestly, the best compliment is that

2646
01:54:18.880 --> 01:54:20.439
we didn't even notice how well you directed it because

2647
01:54:20.439 --> 01:54:21.279
the movie's so good. Yeah.

2648
01:54:21.720 --> 01:54:23.760
Charlotte Sullivan, who played Marian and the film, were called

2649
01:54:23.800 --> 01:54:25.680
on the shoot when Bromwin would direct us if we

2650
01:54:25.800 --> 01:54:28.319
weren't walking, She's like, okay, you'll bop bop, bop this

2651
01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:30.239
way and then bop pop pop this way. She was

2652
01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:32.840
always dancing. I don't remember her not dancing on the set,

2653
01:54:33.199 --> 01:54:35.560
and music was always playing. It was very cool and

2654
01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:37.960
in terms of performance art, she was very pretty ahead

2655
01:54:37.960 --> 01:54:39.600
of her time. It was a great way to also

2656
01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:41.720
direct children. It was a way to keep things alive.

2657
01:54:42.159 --> 01:54:43.359
Nice. Yeah, I like that.

2658
01:54:43.640 --> 01:54:45.399
Earth A Kit was very excited to take the role

2659
01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:48.199
of Agatha, as Eartha herself fit the character notes of

2660
01:54:48.239 --> 01:54:49.520
eccentric and a lot of fun.

2661
01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:53.520
Yeah, no, I that was my first like knowing her,

2662
01:54:53.640 --> 01:54:56.600
exposure to her, Yeah, because I didn't know she played

2663
01:54:56.640 --> 01:54:59.000
I mean I watched Batman, yeah, but I didn't know

2664
01:54:59.119 --> 01:55:01.800
she played Catwe yeah until later on. But yeah, she

2665
01:55:02.319 --> 01:55:03.479
was so perfect for that role.

2666
01:55:03.880 --> 01:55:06.640
The final dance number required a choreographer who went by

2667
01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:08.800
the name of Roland, who worked with the kids extensively

2668
01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:10.960
for the final scene. All the young child actors had

2669
01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:12.560
a fond memory of the day where they got to

2670
01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:15.199
wear their costumes for filming. Bron Went while in prep

2671
01:55:15.319 --> 01:55:17.319
for the scene, commented, she wasn't sure what was going

2672
01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:19.239
to happen or how it would go, but mistakes are

2673
01:55:19.279 --> 01:55:21.279
funny and make for great additions to film.

2674
01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:24.279
Damn right, especially for a kid's movie where it's finally

2675
01:55:24.279 --> 01:55:26.640
where we're getting the relief of the joy and the

2676
01:55:26.760 --> 01:55:29.199
fun after having the we had to eat our we

2677
01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:31.760
had to eat our veggies, so now we get the pudding.

2678
01:55:32.159 --> 01:55:35.319
In a twenty twenty two interview with et Tractedberg commented

2679
01:55:35.319 --> 01:55:38.079
that she still told fans is still told by fans

2680
01:55:38.119 --> 01:55:40.399
twenty plus years later that her character inspired some of

2681
01:55:40.479 --> 01:55:42.760
them to become writers, and is still very moved by

2682
01:55:42.760 --> 01:55:45.600
the effects of Harriet the Spy tractor. Berg, nearly breaking

2683
01:55:45.640 --> 01:55:47.760
into tears during the interview, also shared a memory that

2684
01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:50.840
she had held Rosy o'donnald's first child, Harper, while on set,

2685
01:55:51.079 --> 01:55:53.279
who was now twenty six at the time of the interview.

2686
01:55:53.840 --> 01:55:54.359
That's awesome.

2687
01:55:54.760 --> 01:55:57.920
She also added that she remembers touching Sarah Michelle Geller's

2688
01:55:57.960 --> 01:55:59.640
tummy when she was pregnant with her first kid on

2689
01:55:59.680 --> 01:56:03.880
the set of Buffy. Yeah Tracktonberg went on multiple state

2690
01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:06.880
wide promotional tour in prep for the film's opening, during

2691
01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:09.600
which she visited two Planet Hollywoods, where she donated her

2692
01:56:09.680 --> 01:56:12.239
Spy built as well as the yellow coat for displays.

2693
01:56:13.039 --> 01:56:14.199
I love that. That's so great.

2694
01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:16.600
At the nineteen ninety seven Kids Choice Awards, Harriet the

2695
01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:18.880
Spy took home the Favorite Movie Actress, a role for

2696
01:56:19.039 --> 01:56:22.079
Rosie O'Donnell. At the Young Artist Awards, Best Leading Young

2697
01:56:22.079 --> 01:56:25.640
Actress for Michelle Trachtenberg and Best Supporting Young Actress Vanessa Leechester,

2698
01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:26.840
who plays Jamie in the film.

2699
01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:30.079
Well, I mean that's a little bit of nepotisticness, but.

2700
01:56:30.199 --> 01:56:32.840
You know, and as we wrap up, prepare yourself because

2701
01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:35.520
this one, this one got me. Okay, So another adaptation

2702
01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:37.640
to Harriet the Spy was released as a television movie

2703
01:56:37.720 --> 01:56:40.279
in twenty ten titled Harriet the Spy Blog Wars, with

2704
01:56:40.439 --> 01:56:43.079
Jennifer Stone in the title role. In twenty twenty one,

2705
01:56:43.159 --> 01:56:45.840
an animated TV series based on the novel, with Beanie

2706
01:56:45.840 --> 01:56:48.680
Feldstein as the titular character, was released on Apple Plus,

2707
01:56:49.079 --> 01:56:51.279
and in April of twenty twenty three, it was announced

2708
01:56:51.279 --> 01:56:53.720
that Tracktenburg would make a guest appearance in the series

2709
01:56:53.880 --> 01:56:57.720
as Doctor Wagner, which would be her final television appearance

2710
01:56:57.760 --> 01:56:59.640
before her death in February of twenty twenty five.

2711
01:57:00.399 --> 01:57:02.119
Wow, so talk about full circle.

2712
01:57:02.199 --> 01:57:04.920
Closed her legacy as being the doctor on the episode

2713
01:57:05.399 --> 01:57:08.119
of the show. And I could not think of a

2714
01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:10.680
more appropriate final appearance, even if it, unfortunately was.

2715
01:57:10.720 --> 01:57:13.680
The last one. No, that's that's a that's really special.

2716
01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:17.039
It really is. So what are your final thoughts on

2717
01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:18.640
ninety ninety six as Harriet the Spot.

2718
01:57:19.439 --> 01:57:22.920
I mean, nostalgia says own it. Yeah, nostalgia says own

2719
01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:25.479
it because it's special to me. I think that if

2720
01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:27.239
you have children and you've never seen this, or you

2721
01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:29.119
haven't seen it a long time, watch it with them.

2722
01:57:29.159 --> 01:57:31.760
Oh yeah, they'll love it. And if they don't beat

2723
01:57:31.800 --> 01:57:34.600
it into them or beat them with it either way

2724
01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:39.960
because it's still on DVD only more or the vh

2725
01:57:40.239 --> 01:57:44.000
oh oh yeah, it really it depends on how bad

2726
01:57:44.039 --> 01:57:45.960
your kid is. But but no, for me, it's a

2727
01:57:46.000 --> 01:57:47.720
by it. I'm not I'm not going to preface that

2728
01:57:47.760 --> 01:57:49.520
any further. It's a it's a by it. It's a

2729
01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:51.920
great film to have, a great film to watch, a

2730
01:57:51.960 --> 01:57:55.800
great film to appreciate, and uh yeah, that's all I've got.

2731
01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:57.560
What about you, it's a buy it for me as well,

2732
01:57:58.119 --> 01:58:00.960
it's I find this too well. This is absolutely a

2733
01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:03.960
kid's film. I feel like adults will will get more

2734
01:58:04.039 --> 01:58:06.119
from this film, especially kids that grew up with this

2735
01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:09.800
movie now going back and revisiting it. Obviously, it is

2736
01:58:10.239 --> 01:58:13.800
a adorable performance, not only just by the entire child cast,

2737
01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:16.079
but Tracktenberg is so good in this movie, and she's

2738
01:58:16.119 --> 01:58:18.159
so bubbly like in the interviews. Like I said, I

2739
01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:20.520
watched several to get some of the facts and everything,

2740
01:58:20.640 --> 01:58:23.239
and one of the things I took away from her

2741
01:58:23.399 --> 01:58:26.479
is that she was just so much, so much a kid,

2742
01:58:26.600 --> 01:58:30.159
but also was very mature to the point of being

2743
01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:31.760
able to talk to these adults and be on these

2744
01:58:31.800 --> 01:58:34.880
talk show appearances and was just so cute about everything

2745
01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:36.760
and very real about everything too.

2746
01:58:37.239 --> 01:58:38.680
No, she was incredible in every way.

2747
01:58:38.840 --> 01:58:41.760
And watching that twenty twenty two interview with ET, she

2748
01:58:42.039 --> 01:58:44.520
not only did did I find out that stuff around

2749
01:58:44.520 --> 01:58:46.760
about Harriet and Buffy, but she also has a two

2750
01:58:46.840 --> 01:58:51.199
B TV's a true crime series called Mary Murder. Is

2751
01:58:51.239 --> 01:58:55.079
it something Mary and then Murder? I can't remember what

2752
01:58:55.159 --> 01:58:57.920
the first word is, but she's narrating it. It's a

2753
01:58:57.960 --> 01:59:00.479
true crime series that she narrated. She created during COVID,

2754
01:59:01.279 --> 01:59:03.119
one of probably the last projects that she ever had

2755
01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:05.800
a hand in. Wow, And I haven't watched it yet,

2756
01:59:05.800 --> 01:59:08.439
but I'm definitely gonna check it out. But she was

2757
01:59:08.640 --> 01:59:10.319
just If you can watch it, it's an eight minute

2758
01:59:10.359 --> 01:59:12.479
interview and it's just her and another person from ET

2759
01:59:12.640 --> 01:59:16.119
on a webcam, and you just see her being so

2760
01:59:16.800 --> 01:59:20.199
genuine about not only just her life in these films,

2761
01:59:20.239 --> 01:59:22.239
but like she was ten years old. The first day

2762
01:59:22.279 --> 01:59:24.000
of filming on Harry at the Spy turned that was

2763
01:59:24.039 --> 01:59:26.680
her birthday. Her birthday was the first day of principal photography.

2764
01:59:26.920 --> 01:59:27.479
That's awesome.

2765
01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:29.279
Yeah, So, I mean she talks about that, she talks

2766
01:59:29.319 --> 01:59:32.199
about the whole thing with Rosie talks about how genuinely

2767
01:59:32.279 --> 01:59:35.680
that was just an environment for her to come about

2768
01:59:35.760 --> 01:59:37.800
and now being you know, twenty plus years later, she

2769
01:59:37.960 --> 01:59:40.279
just can't believe how lucky she was to have that experience.

2770
01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:42.600
I would agree, and I think and I think that's

2771
01:59:42.600 --> 01:59:44.079
the perfect way to wrap it up and saying how

2772
01:59:44.159 --> 01:59:45.840
lucky we are to have this movie, because I mean,

2773
01:59:45.880 --> 01:59:47.359
I've read Harry at the Spot. It's a it's a

2774
01:59:47.399 --> 01:59:50.920
phenomenal book. The movie is just a time capsule not

2775
01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:53.960
only of Nickelodeon, but of kid power movies. Like I said,

2776
01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:56.680
to an extent, that aren't the Let's trap the snowplow

2777
01:59:56.760 --> 01:59:59.920
man into snowplow and all that stuff. It's it's being real.

2778
02:00:00.119 --> 02:00:02.159
It's being very genuine to the time.

2779
02:00:02.520 --> 02:00:07.199
Well and much like Missus Doubtfire, Yeah, it's a film.

2780
02:00:08.159 --> 02:00:11.399
The reason they had to update it was the nineties

2781
02:00:11.520 --> 02:00:14.800
was the era of not all families look the same.

2782
02:00:15.359 --> 02:00:20.680
It's much more common parents split up and challenges arise.

2783
02:00:20.920 --> 02:00:24.439
And while they didn't go in as you know heavily,

2784
02:00:24.520 --> 02:00:27.600
as like Missus Doubtfire, Yeah, they were much more about

2785
02:00:27.640 --> 02:00:30.880
showing what the nineties was for kids. Absolutely, and that

2786
02:00:30.960 --> 02:00:33.199
was why Nickelodeon was so successful for so long. Was

2787
02:00:33.199 --> 02:00:35.399
they had their finger on the pulse of like, we're

2788
02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:38.039
going to show kids the world they see, Yeah, but

2789
02:00:38.119 --> 02:00:40.319
we'll show it in a way that helps them learn. Yeah.

2790
02:00:40.680 --> 02:00:42.840
So yeah, I couldn't agree more. So.

2791
02:00:43.359 --> 02:00:44.720
We always like get in the show with a couple

2792
02:00:44.760 --> 02:00:47.079
of recommendations. I have two this week, the first one

2793
02:00:47.199 --> 02:00:50.079
being nineteen ninety six is Matilda, currently on Netflix and

2794
02:00:50.119 --> 02:00:52.800
rentable on Prime and Fandango. A girl gifted with a

2795
02:00:52.880 --> 02:00:55.680
keen intellect and psychic powers uses both to get even

2796
02:00:55.760 --> 02:00:58.439
with her callous family and free her kindly school teacher

2797
02:00:58.479 --> 02:01:01.439
from the tire tyrannical grip of a sadistic headmistress. If

2798
02:01:01.479 --> 02:01:03.279
you haven't seen Matilda, I'm a I'm sure it'll come

2799
02:01:03.319 --> 02:01:05.640
to the show at some point, but b it is

2800
02:01:05.760 --> 02:01:08.079
so worth revisiting. That movie just gets better and better.

2801
02:01:08.199 --> 02:01:10.720
They showed that at the drive in during COVID. Yeah,

2802
02:01:10.880 --> 02:01:12.520
and it was really awesome to revisit it.

2803
02:01:12.680 --> 02:01:15.000
It's a lot of fun. And the other recommendation I

2804
02:01:15.079 --> 02:01:17.840
have is twenty twelves The Perks of Being a Wallflower,

2805
02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:21.079
currently available on Max, rentable on Prime and Fandango. Pittford,

2806
02:01:21.079 --> 02:01:24.000
Pennsylvania in nineteen ninety one. High school freshman Charlie is

2807
02:01:24.039 --> 02:01:27.399
a wallflower, always watching life from the sidelines until two students,

2808
02:01:27.520 --> 02:01:30.439
Sam and her stepbrother Patrick become his mentors, helping him

2809
02:01:30.479 --> 02:01:33.920
discover the joys of friendship, music, and love. Fantastic movie.

2810
02:01:34.239 --> 02:01:35.880
I've heard a great book. I have not read the book,

2811
02:01:35.920 --> 02:01:37.680
but the movie I fell in love with when I

2812
02:01:37.760 --> 02:01:39.359
was in college, and I need to revisit it's been

2813
02:01:39.399 --> 02:01:39.720
a while.

2814
02:01:40.199 --> 02:01:43.079
My recommendation is a film I wish I had seen

2815
02:01:43.199 --> 02:01:45.039
as a kid, but I saw it in my later

2816
02:01:45.199 --> 02:01:49.359
twenties from nineteen ninety five. Angus. I was gonna.

2817
02:01:49.399 --> 02:01:51.039
I was wondering if you're gonna pick Angus.

2818
02:01:50.800 --> 02:01:54.840
Because Angus is phenomenal. Yeah. Here's the synopsis. A miserable,

2819
02:01:54.960 --> 02:01:58.119
fat teenager secretly has a crush on the class beauty

2820
02:01:58.560 --> 02:02:01.000
ends up becoming the surprising p participant to dance with

2821
02:02:01.079 --> 02:02:03.479
her at a high school dance, meaning he's got to

2822
02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:05.760
get his act together with the help of his best friend.

2823
02:02:06.439 --> 02:02:09.600
And the reason that movie's so great that's not a

2824
02:02:09.720 --> 02:02:13.279
very good rundown is not only does Angus have to

2825
02:02:13.359 --> 02:02:16.720
learn to have confidence and all these things, but the

2826
02:02:17.159 --> 02:02:20.720
beautiful girl he's obsessed with is complicated, Yeah, and has

2827
02:02:20.760 --> 02:02:23.079
a really hard home life, and they handle it in

2828
02:02:23.119 --> 02:02:26.199
a way that I thought was really wonderful. Yeah, as

2829
02:02:26.359 --> 02:02:30.640
a lesson two kids. Yeah. So I love Angus from

2830
02:02:30.760 --> 02:02:32.640
nineteen ninety five. If I had seen it when I

2831
02:02:32.720 --> 02:02:33.720
was a teen, it would have been one of my

2832
02:02:33.760 --> 02:02:37.760
favorite movies of all time. Yeah, because it just it's perfect.

2833
02:02:37.840 --> 02:02:42.319
It's all about being a outside kid and outsider.

2834
02:02:42.479 --> 02:02:45.079
Yeah, and I identified and you just reminded me of

2835
02:02:45.159 --> 02:02:46.439
one that I'm going to go ahead and throw into

2836
02:02:46.520 --> 02:02:48.399
the one that you and I love that does not

2837
02:02:48.479 --> 02:02:51.359
get talked about. I think it's twenty Seventeen's The Edge

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of seventeen. Yeah, I think it was twenty sev twenty seventeen,

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02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:59.000
which is seventeen girls. Yeah, fantastic movie. I cannot recommend enough.

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Coming of age story, a lot of fun.

2841
02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:03.319
Another great story about an adult taking an interest in

2842
02:03:03.399 --> 02:03:03.960
a kid. Yeah.

2843
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Yeah, a lot of good fun on that one. So

2844
02:03:05.840 --> 02:03:07.039
do we have any emails this week?

2845
02:03:07.119 --> 02:03:07.720
Believe it or not?

2846
02:03:07.960 --> 02:03:08.159
We do.

2847
02:03:09.760 --> 02:03:10.760
Last I checked too.

2848
02:03:11.039 --> 02:03:13.640
Oh, but you never know which one's gonna make me.

2849
02:03:14.760 --> 02:03:19.119
Okay, First we have one. This one is from Jaden

2850
02:03:20.279 --> 02:03:24.399
and the subject line is just appreciation email Okay, hey,

2851
02:03:24.840 --> 02:03:26.920
excuse me. Hey, guys, just want to give you a

2852
02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:29.600
shout out all the way from Australia. Oh hell Yah,

2853
02:03:30.039 --> 02:03:32.119
want to write to say thank you for the amazing

2854
02:03:32.199 --> 02:03:34.840
and fun podcast you guys have got me on to

2855
02:03:35.039 --> 02:03:38.640
some new favorite movies like Trick Like Trick and The

2856
02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:41.239
Slumber Party Massacre. Oh yeah, would you guys ever do

2857
02:03:41.319 --> 02:03:45.000
an episode on my favorite movies Scream or Aliens?

2858
02:03:45.399 --> 02:03:48.000
Both of those are highly possible scream especially.

2859
02:03:48.239 --> 02:03:51.520
One Aliens is great yea scream is really likely. Yeah,

2860
02:03:52.000 --> 02:03:54.520
and then the final keep up the great work, Jaden.

2861
02:03:54.720 --> 02:03:57.079
Thank you so much, Jayden. I will tell you on

2862
02:03:57.239 --> 02:03:59.960
a current podcast that I guessed on our buddy mike'sh

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02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:02.119
a this podcast this week in Geek, we just did

2864
02:04:02.239 --> 02:04:05.159
not only a ranking of this entire screen franchise, but

2865
02:04:05.199 --> 02:04:08.439
we did two episodes breaking up trilogy one through three

2866
02:04:08.680 --> 02:04:11.479
and then four through six. So if you find those

2867
02:04:11.479 --> 02:04:12.880
on this week in Geek, there's a lot of scream

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talk on that.

2869
02:04:13.560 --> 02:04:15.760
Yeah. And I want to mention before I read this

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next email, yeah, that you can send us an email

2871
02:04:18.439 --> 02:04:21.239
at do youevenmovie pod at gmail dot com or go

2872
02:04:21.319 --> 02:04:24.520
to dooevenmovie dot com. Send us an email. We absolutely

2873
02:04:24.680 --> 02:04:28.560
love love, love love hearing from you, guys. This next

2874
02:04:28.600 --> 02:04:32.479
one's from Daniel. Okay, the subject is a request or

2875
02:04:32.560 --> 02:04:35.840
to Oh hey, guys, I've been waiting patiently for my

2876
02:04:35.960 --> 02:04:38.920
request and haven't heard it yet. So I'm going to

2877
02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:42.920
request it for my birthday. Okay, technically my birthday is

2878
02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:45.479
August eighth, but that's a Friday this year, and I

2879
02:04:45.560 --> 02:04:47.880
know you do your show on Tuesday. So my request

2880
02:04:48.039 --> 02:04:51.359
is twenty nineteen's ready or not?

2881
02:04:51.720 --> 02:04:51.840
Oh?

2882
02:04:51.920 --> 02:04:53.560
Hell, yeah, you should write that down.

2883
02:04:53.760 --> 02:04:55.079
I don't even have to all remember that.

2884
02:04:55.239 --> 02:04:57.359
No, we'll we'll do ready or not. That's a great suggestion.

2885
02:04:57.760 --> 02:04:59.800
I have another request, which you can do whenever you

2886
02:04:59.840 --> 02:05:02.359
have time or just feel like doing musicals or in

2887
02:05:02.439 --> 02:05:05.640
this case, an opera. That request is I bet you've

2888
02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:09.119
guessed it, Repo the Genetic Opera. It's a great movie

2889
02:05:09.199 --> 02:05:12.479
with incredible actors, and to make it even odder, Paris Hilton.

2890
02:05:12.600 --> 02:05:13.960
Can I get you to watch that movie?

2891
02:05:14.159 --> 02:05:18.560
I don't know. I'm a huge but willing to give

2892
02:05:18.600 --> 02:05:20.520
it another chance. I guess yeah, I was gonna say

2893
02:05:21.359 --> 02:05:24.239
so I might be willing to give another chance. Then

2894
02:05:24.279 --> 02:05:26.960
he put yikes, but honestly, not that bad at Paris Hilton.

2895
02:05:27.399 --> 02:05:30.079
A special thanks to mister Kuto. Extreme apologies if I

2896
02:05:30.119 --> 02:05:32.560
spelled that incorrectly, you missed an Oh, there's two o's

2897
02:05:32.560 --> 02:05:37.000
in there, forgiving all of his weekly Spooky listeners a

2898
02:05:37.079 --> 02:05:42.399
special advanced listen of Krawl I released. I released Krawl

2899
02:05:42.520 --> 02:05:47.079
and Crow early on there because my voice was was

2900
02:05:47.119 --> 02:05:49.359
shot and I needed something on Friday, so I figured

2901
02:05:49.520 --> 02:05:53.800
why not give him out a little early for I did,

2902
02:05:53.880 --> 02:05:56.439
in fact listen to it both on Friday of last

2903
02:05:56.479 --> 02:05:59.479
week and Tuesday of this week. As always, we all

2904
02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:01.960
appreciate everything you guys are doing for us. Even when

2905
02:06:02.000 --> 02:06:04.640
your horse from all of the podcasts, you still find

2906
02:06:04.680 --> 02:06:07.319
a way to push through and keep us entertained where

2907
02:06:07.520 --> 02:06:13.119
or whenever we decide to listen. Peace to your mother. Lol. Daniel,

2908
02:06:13.680 --> 02:06:17.760
thank you, Daniel, Daniel, Ready or not, it's definitely gonna happen. Yeah,

2909
02:06:17.960 --> 02:06:19.399
So Repo, we'll see, we'll see.

2910
02:06:20.039 --> 02:06:22.640
Repo is possible, but we'll see. But yeah, I would say, ready,

2911
02:06:22.640 --> 02:06:26.239
you're not absolutely possible. Screams possible, aliens possible. So those

2912
02:06:26.279 --> 02:06:27.159
are some good recks we got.

2913
02:06:27.239 --> 02:06:28.079
Oh yeah, absolutely.

2914
02:06:28.119 --> 02:06:30.279
At one point, I'm going to go through our entire

2915
02:06:30.760 --> 02:06:33.439
end of our episodes, and pull these recommendations out and

2916
02:06:33.439 --> 02:06:35.760
write the middle list for I've got a short list

2917
02:06:35.840 --> 02:06:38.239
going for us that is only four hundred items right now,

2918
02:06:38.279 --> 02:06:40.399
so we can absolutely add some more to it. Yeah.

2919
02:06:42.039 --> 02:06:44.800
So, but with that all being said, yes, I suppose

2920
02:06:44.840 --> 02:06:47.000
it's time to get out of here.

2921
02:06:47.119 --> 02:06:48.840
Would you like to know what we're talking about next

2922
02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:51.880
week on the show, though, I guess I would. Okay?

2923
02:06:52.079 --> 02:06:54.279
So May They Rest in Peace is going to continue

2924
02:06:54.439 --> 02:06:56.800
as we are going to highlight a film that both

2925
02:06:56.960 --> 02:06:58.479
is getting a sequel the week that we are going

2926
02:06:58.520 --> 02:07:00.880
to be dropping our episode, and we unfortunately lost the

2927
02:07:00.920 --> 02:07:05.479
great Tony Todd recently, who plays Death in two thousand's

2928
02:07:05.640 --> 02:07:06.600
Final Destination.

2929
02:07:06.960 --> 02:07:09.960
I'm really excited. I haven't watched the original Final Destination

2930
02:07:10.119 --> 02:07:11.880
in a good six or seven years, so I'm really

2931
02:07:11.920 --> 02:07:12.960
looking forward to revisiting it.

2932
02:07:13.039 --> 02:07:14.840
And if you want to revisit it, it's readily available

2933
02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:16.359
on Max right now. You can also rent it on

2934
02:07:16.439 --> 02:07:18.479
Voodoo in Prime or wherever you get your movies at.

2935
02:07:18.720 --> 02:07:21.800
There's a great blue rays set out I'll set out

2936
02:07:21.920 --> 02:07:23.840
now that is one through four. I don't even know.

2937
02:07:24.119 --> 02:07:25.560
I don't even if it was a hit four K yet.

2938
02:07:25.680 --> 02:07:27.680
I don't think they have Yeah, I don't, but yeah.

2939
02:07:27.720 --> 02:07:30.800
Final destination from two thousand next week on the show,

2940
02:07:30.880 --> 02:07:33.760
as we pay our tribute and respects to the great

2941
02:07:34.159 --> 02:07:34.720
Tony Todd.

2942
02:07:34.840 --> 02:07:37.439
An incredible actor, incredible body of work.

2943
02:07:37.319 --> 02:07:39.840
Who can wrap the Candyman song so well.

2944
02:07:40.439 --> 02:07:43.600
His appearance on Holliston's candy Man Hungry.

2945
02:07:43.840 --> 02:07:45.479
He's running out of things with rhyme with candy Man.

2946
02:07:45.800 --> 02:07:48.439
That means a showers almost over. But with that all

2947
02:07:48.479 --> 02:07:50.760
being said, thank you guys so much for listening to us. Yeah,

2948
02:07:50.800 --> 02:07:52.760
I even movie. We really do appreciate it, and we

2949
02:07:52.880 --> 02:07:56.640
really appreciate the kind messages and emails we've been getting

2950
02:07:56.640 --> 02:08:00.640
about the show. I'm happy to bring this level of

2951
02:08:01.760 --> 02:08:06.079
movie nerd friendship to you all, and it really does

2952
02:08:06.199 --> 02:08:08.359
mean a lot. It really does make us want to

2953
02:08:08.439 --> 02:08:11.359
do the show even harder it does than before. So

2954
02:08:11.720 --> 02:08:14.560
but until next time. If you're watching on YouTube, make

2955
02:08:14.600 --> 02:08:17.319
sure you subscribe. If you're listening on your favorite podcasting app,

2956
02:08:17.439 --> 02:08:19.119
make sure you subscribe her there. If you could leave

2957
02:08:19.159 --> 02:08:22.840
us a review, we do appreciate it. But all that's

2958
02:08:22.880 --> 02:08:27.800
left to say really is we'll see you next Spies.

2959
02:08:27.520 --> 02:08:29.640
Tuesday, Final listenation Day.

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Oh, that's that's going to be dangerous. Audios guys