Grumpy Old Men (1993): Lemmon, Matthau and Ann-Margret

0:10 They've been fighting forever. Give it your best shot, Shrimp. Now there's a reason she's fine, says at least you can make peace with the man. Jack Lemmon, Idiot, Walter, Mathew and Marmott, Kevin Pollock with Daryl, Hannah and Burgess Meredith. Can kids eat my short in the comedy You've been waiting for? Grumpy Old Man? Look for it on video cassette. In a world where podcasts reign supreme, two friends dare to ask, do you even? Movie? Hosted by phil maker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denier. Spoiler alert, Well, hello, my friends, and welcome to another episode, another wintry episode. Yes of do you even movie?

1:25 I'm your host Enrique Kuto here with double D David whatever. Like I'm I'm adopting Burgess, You're adopting Vergus attitude, mannerisms, really everything except as teeth. That's fair. I mean, that's totally fair. So uh, but before we talk about that, I hate to start the show on a really sad note, but I'm gonna so. As I mentioned last time, I went on a vacation, a work vacation, but a vacation. That's the best you're gonna get for me. If you get if I go on a work vacation, that's that's gonna be the best it's gonna get. Yeah. And when I came back, unfortunately, I was greeted with the reality that my my dog, Chicano, it was time for him to go and for me to say goodbye. And so I've been laying low for a week, just kind of recovering from from losing him. And it's been really hard because he was just the coolest dog. He was. He was my little dude, you know. I got him from a rescue. He was older, so I had him for just under five years. It would have been five years in March. And he was a fearful, sweet dog that grew to be wonderful to everybody. Yeah, he was a wonderful companion to me.

2:57 He was a friend to many people, many animals, you know, mostly dogs. He kind of kind of like cats too much, and he wanted to eat like rodents and stuff. Yeah, but he was a very good dog. He had a two year battle with cancer and that's a hell of a thing. You know. We spent two a year doing surgeries and then a year of surgeries in chemotherapy and I I've had I've had about a week to think about it. And cancer did not take him. Old age took him. He was no longer able to walk or well, he was able to walk with a lot of pain, but he couldn't get up at all.

3:47 He couldn't stand, he couldn't get up himself. And it was because he had severe arthritis and it got so bad. He had early onset arthritis. He had arthritis from the moment I got him. Ya. So I had to make that decision, and it was really awful. It was really painful, but but it was way worse to let him suffer. Yeah, that made everything that made me just hate life watching him lay there in pain. So and I'm not going to sit here and be like so now let me describe the youth in Asia. But it was, it was really hard. Dave's been a real, real good pal through it. I appreciate it, man, And definitely we're going to miss him. All of us are going to miss him, especially I mean, I look back here in the fact that he's not behind us right now, it's just kind of a major bummer. But you know, we have all those memories with him, especially Yeah, he used to. He used to hang out behind us while we recorded and take long naps and yeah, he's That's the hardest part is he's just really absent. Yeah, it's it's hard just when he's not where he would be, Like even in the last month or so, when he was really declining, it was like he'd always be snugly in his bed and he'd always be ready to eat dinner. Yep. That boy ate till the day, till the moment he died, though, but he didn't want to be a butt. Well he was on a lot of steroids, so he was very hungry. Yeah, but yeah, no, it sucks. So I

5:20 just wanted to say something about it. Uh it's super it's super sad. And I'm trying not to make every day, every minute me talking about my dead dog. But uh, he was a big part of my life. I worked from home, he was so I'm always I was always with him, and that, you know, made it harder. Oh, I absolutely did. I think what I what I always just loved about him was like he he would want pets, but he was such a gentle, gentle dude that like you had nervous dude, Yeah, gentle nervous dude that you had to be. You had to be very precise about like getting him to you first and then being able to pet him. And like if we like the first couple of pets, like you would kind of like shake his head.

6:00 No, he would he would like flinch, but then be like, oh wait, I do like being pettied because he had been. He had been I adopted him when he was seven years old, and he'd been mistreated. You know, he had been very mistreated and then abandoned, and I knew taking in a dog his age, that he wasn't going to be able to live a very long time. I mean, I'm not stupid. I'm definitely not delusional about pet ownership. It crushed me to say goodbye, but I knew I had to. Yeah, Like I absolutely never questioned it. In fact, my mom, bless her heart, you know, she was there at the vet and when we were sitting there with him and he was on his little, his little bed at the vet, my mom was just like she was just like, you know what they're going to say. And I looked at her. I was like, Mom, I already called them and told them to we were euthanizing it, and my mom was like, oh, and I was like, I didn't. I don't. I know, there's no coming back from the way he is, like, and I wouldn't want to try. I it got to a point where I would just pick him up so that he could walk to the food dish. Yeah, and then I'd pick him up so he could walk outside and pee and he'd fall half the time. And then I'd pick him up so he could walk, he could go to bed, and and then it was like I gave that.

7:19 I gave that more time than I should have. Honestly, I gave that about fourteen days of him never being able to get himself up, and then I realized, like, he's not going to get better. It's time he deserves a break. He fought valiantly. That's why cancer. That's why I like to point out, like cancer didn't take him because he while he never fully remission, had he only had a remission of about two months, he fought it off so well and time just caught up. Yeah, you know, That's that's really what comes down to. When I was talking to the oncologist after his remission ended, she had told me she was like, I would just mostly worry about the fact that he is now very very elderly.

8:03 Yeah, And I was like, you're right, and she was like, have you noticed the way he's walking. I was like yeah. She was like, pay attention to that. Don't worry about this cancer crap anymore. So, yeah, he got all his lovin's he got. I mean, he was the staple of cigar Night for a while there. We would all make sure that we gave Chiicano arts. I mean, both dogs got our attention, but Chikano especially was just like he would hang out with us and then he would fuck off. Yeah yeah, no, uh, that is absolutely the way it would go. Yeah, so we'll miss him. I'll miss my old man. He was a good, very very good boy, the best boy, tough boy. He was the toughest boy. So I don't know, but all right, I want to say scoot down or scoot around? I could. I said scoot toward me. My bad, that's no, no, no, no. This is a perfect learnable moment for do you even movie. I sometimes have to write Dave like messages, you know, for the show that we don't want to say out loud, and I literally wrote, scoot toward me, pushed in to him and he moved away, so that if you want to know what it's like being the producer of the show, but much better. Okay, So with that all being said, yeah, I'll miss him. I'll miss I miss so much nearly every day that I would pound the pavement in my office. He would

9:37 sleep on my feet. That's I missed that so much. But I I didn't even think about it until we sat down to do the show. This movie is a really great choice because he I used to literally call him my grumpy old man because he was He had a grumpy face. He was he was part chow chow and I would call it resting chowface. He just looked mad. He did all the time, and even when he was happy, and this emotion. This film is about what my experience with him was about, which is that I mean, for fu sake, he was surrendered because he was old. Yeah, they put his age was the reason for surrender, and he had five almost five, well he had five more years after they surrendered him, and good years. I mean, he really he we went all over the place together, we traveled together, we we we yeah, like it was anyway, But that's kind of my point. Is like adopting a senior And I didn't just adopt one senior dog. I have another senior dog who's you know, losing her ability to walk right right now and in front of our table right now. Well, she's taking a very good nap right now. She's the production manager of the show. But uh,

11:09 this movie is also about the fact that there's more life to live when you're old, and how some people forget that, especially young people. Yeah, we we like to not think about the elderly. Yes, So that all being said, I think Grumpy Old Men, which is a comfort film to me, a film that brings me a lot of joy, is a perfect a perfect film for tonight. So the last thing I'm gonna say is I'm just gonna miss Chickano so much. A he was my good boy. He was and uh, you know, if you uh, if you out there viewing listening to this, if you you know, drink alcohol to celebrate, drink something for him, if you burn tobacco to celebrate, burns something for him, because he was a damn good dog. I'm sorry everybody couldn't meet him. I'm sorry everybody in the world couldn't meet him. He was he was something else, you know, Sorry, you're good man. I took him to Freddie Fest at the Mahoning Drive in the biggest drive in theater in America, and they showed the original six Night ren Elm Street Movies and Chikana and I went out there and camped in the car and I'll never forget I was. I put him in a Freddy Krueger sweater, so we were wearing matching Freddie sweaters. And the woman who played Greta in Night ren Elm Street five was there and she got up from her table like left the autographed sightings

12:43 and just just like can I pet him? And just started petting him and was like, who is this this? What is his name? Tell me about him? And that was just the coolest. So yeah, so I'm doing the show. I'm in a little bit of pain. I haven't really worked worked in almost a week, which is insane for me. Uh So, Dan, all right, you want to get into this. Oh I thought you were going to take your turn to cry. You know I can cry, don't worry. So Dave Grumpy Old Men, Grumpy old Man About the Deats, nineteen ninety three, one hour in forty three minutes, pg. Thirteen. This film is directed by Donald Petrie. He was an actor that went into directing. He started as an actor in nineteen seventy six of One Day at a Time, did The Turning Point in nineteen seventy seven.

13:30 He was on The Waltons in seventy eight, Incredible Hulk in seventy eight, Eight is Enough in seventy nine, Buck Rogers, the Hearst Little House in the Prairie. FOI Depache on the Bronze Falcon Crest in nineteen eighty three. All Roads Lead to Falcon Crest, Why Me in nineteen eighty four, Misdirection into twenty ten, even the film Noah in twenty twelve. He started becoming a director in eighty though with eighty five he did an episode of mcguiver, an episode of Amazing Stories in eighty five, La Law Mystic Pizza was kind of where he started getting his name first out there. Then he followed that with The Opportunity Knox in nineteen ninety, pickt Fences ninety two. One year later he does a Grumpy old Man. Then he does Richie Rich in ninety four, Really Like I Love for Two Rooms. That may be a future episode because I really love that movie. I think it's kind of underrated.

14:13 I think so too. McDonald's in his house, in his house, roller Coaster out Back. Ever there were a nineties kid concept, Yeah, it would be you have a McDonald's in their home anyway. Yeah, so The Associate ninety six, My favorite Martian film in ninety nine, I love my favorite Marchin Dude. This is where I love his filmography. Mister Congeniality two thousand, Wow, How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days in two thousand and three, These are all really good. Welcome to the Moose Sport two thousand and four, Are you fucking kidding? Nope? And then Just My Luck He goes to work in Lindley Ohan twice, Just My Luck two thousand and six, My Life in Ruins two thousand and nine, Chicago Justice twenty seventeen, Chicago MED twenty eighteen, Chicago PD twenty nineteen. So we kind of went to TV after like late twenty ten, in to Chicago and Chicago.

15:03 So then our writer on this is Mark Stephen Johnson. He was this was his first big writing that he got credit for Grumpy Old Men in ninety three. Does a grumpy year old Men in ninety five, Big Bully in nineteen ninety six, the Tom Arnold Rick Baranas movie. I I want to revisit Big Bully. It's been so bad. It's been passing around on Max and in Showtime. I want to say recently. I don't know if it's still on there now, but yeah, i'd be down. I would love to rewatch that. Simon Birch in ninety eight, Jack Frost in ninety eight, Daredevil, two thousand three, Killer Snowman Movie, No No. He wrote the Michael Keaton one. Oh wait, I mean I guess in both Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? He is kind of a mutant in that movie, A little Bit, A little bit Elector of two thousand and five, ghost Writer two thousand and seven, Christopher Robin in twenty eighteen, Love and No Villa twenty twenty two. He also was the director of Simon Birtch, director of Daredevil, director of Ghostwriter, Win in Rome, Killing Season Finding, Steve McQueen, Love Guaranteed, in Love of a Villa. He started doing some Hallmark stuff in the last like five ten years. Oh wow, yeah, okay, So Mark Stephen Johnson's our writer, finishing us off with our background as our cinematographer Johnny E. Jensen. He was a technician on Woody

16:36 Allen's Bananas in seventy one. Okay, camera tech, Yeah, Camera tech of The Godfather in seventy two. Goes on to do assistant camera for Doctor Minx in nineteen seventy five, Texas Detour seventy eight, Altered States in nineteen eighty, Cutter's Way in eighty one, becomes an operator on the talking Head film Stop Making Sense in eighty four, but then his cinematographer career kicked in in eighty six with Shattered Spirits, The Three Kings in eighty Spy in eighty nine. When you remember me nineteen ninety How many movies are just called spy? I don't know. There's got to be at least three or four? Yeah, right, I would think so. Into the bad Lands in ninety one, Rambling Rose ninety one, Lost in Yonkers ninety three, Grumpy Old Men ninety three and g ninety four, Three Wishes in ninety five, Rose, Which is that movie I want to show you? From nineteen ninety seven, The Ladies Man two thousand Morelas Fairry, the infamous Henry Rowlins Billy Zane Western from two thousand and one, say what Morgan's fairy? No, No, I heard you, but I didn't hear. Henry Rollins is the villain in it, and I believe Billy Zaine's the protagonist. You've not seen it.

17:37 I have not seen it. I've only seen the scene that Henry Rollins talks about in one of his spoken words where he shows his ass. Of course you would hunt that down. Why is a Girl's two thousand and two, Dragnet the TV series, and three Material Girls six. He also finishes out with Heartland in two thousand and seven and Tribute in two thousand and nine. He hasn't really done much since then. Well, I mean, that's that's quite a career. Speaking with The Ladies Man in two thousand though, that's right, it's hell of a movie. So you know, I just God love Saturday It Live. They'll be like, hey, you know, no one even liked this sketch to begin with, So let's make a feature film Superstar Ladies Man. It's pat the movie Superstar. The character from Superstar was really popular. Yeah, but that movie no one remembers. Well, no, no, I think like the only three SNL successful movies would be Wayne's World Night at the Roxbury, because that got a huge cult following.

18:36 I don't know how well it did in the box office. I'm trying to get the other one, Coneheads, Coneads, Yep, yep. Well, yeah, I mean Wayne's World so big that people forgot it was an SNL movie. Yeah, it was such a massive phenomena that for the first film, that's when we should do on the show. Sometimes Wayne's World's like so good it holds up bizarrely the sequel. I wasn't a big fan of the sequel for a while, while in the last couple of watches I've had on it, I really liked it. No, it's actually pretty good. It's the same team as the first one. They did it. They did it really well. Dave, we need to get Wayne's World on the docket, because I bet you don't know that there is a legend. I'm serious, and this is not like a build up to like haha, just pok in your eye. No, but no, no joke. There is an urban legend that the origin of Wayne's World. It's from dateon d I'm not going to spoil it until we know you have no idea. But but I I was around to be told the legend and like giggling whispers in a control room at a television station. And I won't share it today. We'll put Wayne's World on the docket for when the snow melts. And uh that one's just so good I could I could almost. Uh so, like we watched David and I you know, not too much. Yeah, pull the curtain back and show that you know, showed the whole process. But we we we try to take a fun approach to this show and that we kick back and

20:08 we watched the film once fresh and then we come and we sit down and we get in the studio and we do it well. We did play strings. We didn't even bother watching. We didn't need to. We've seen it so many times together alone and waynees were all I'm like, damn, that's almost one I could skip, probably because I had it on tape. So anyway, but we're talking about Wayness World too much. But no, uh snl movies. But I will say that they have a good way about being cult phenomenous. Yeah, like they have a way about them where like the It's pat movie is actually pretty great. It's fun. Well, and I was just thinking here, I was like, actually, mcgover was technically an SNL movie. They have a way of failing at the box office while being pretty interesting. The video I mean, well, the video age absolutely saved some of those I would say, I'm pretty sure that those like ended every career Like, uh, Corky Rabano, you said career ending it, I'm like, oh, oh, poor please or no David, please, no David. All right, So getting back to grow upy old men. So, our synopsis from IMDb is John and Max are elderly men living next door to each other. They're continuously arguing and insulting each other and have been this way for over fifty years. One day, Ariel moves into across the street, and both men are attracted her, and their rivalry steps up a gear.

21:32 The rivalry steps up a gear. Now say revelry. No. My synopsis is two elderly men in a lifelong feud since childhood, worse than their behaviors toward each other with the arrival of a new female neighbor across the street. I mean that's pretty good. I think your your description is good, except skipping over the romantic element a little too fast by just saying a new female neighbor. Yeah, I would definitely say, like, you know, they end up in a very unexpected love triangle. But I think that's a very good I think that's an apt breakdown of grumpy old men and I a lot of these movies, and it's becoming very apparent why you and I are acquaintances. Storry. When you're in the hospital, much like Martin, Like, sorry, what's Jack? No, no, no, no, no, well Jack Lenine's hospital. But what's the other actor's name? Mike be Walter Mathow? Thank you? Much like Walter Mathow. Once you're in the hospital and I know you might die, I'll admit to one nurse. I'll admit to one nurse or my friend. Yes, I promise that's fair.

22:33 I promise you that. But uh, but no, you like a lot of movies. Maybe it's because of your older sister or something, but you like a lot of movies that were like right in my era. So like when you started talking about grumpy old men, I'm like, Dave, I remember the TV spots. Yeah, you know you were you were born in ninety two. I was born in eighty six. Yeah. So it's like I remember the TV spots. I remember like next time, next show, we're doing ravenous and I was telling you, I was like you were saying, like, yeah, it seems like they didn't do a good job marketing. I'm like, I remember thinking the trailer was awesome on television, you know, because I was there for a lot of that stuff. Yeah, but that's a lot of the stuff you're picking. That's the funniest part is you're the one picking the stuff. Yeah, that's like totally my kind of gig. No, I love the thing. And I think with our friendship in particular when it comes to films is we rely on a lot of cable stays from our days that we repeatedly saw on TV but also then grew up to love even more than we would have realized. Well, cable mainstays are they're a double edged sword, because it's like, oh, man, I always loved that movie, but also I don't know if I've seen the first six minutes more than once. Yeah, you know, like I've seen most of the movie a lot. Yeah, And Grumpy Old Men was always on television, always on so our cast in this one, as we mentioned, already. Jack Lemon plays John Gustafin. He had a hundred credits on his resume. If you don't know the name Jack Lemon, I'm very surprised, because I mean he was even towards the end of his career, he was still pretty active on screen. People prefer Jacklin Jacklme. So he starts off in nineteen forty nine with the Philco Television Playhouse, It Should Happen to You

24:07 in nineteen fifty four, Mister Roberts in fifty five, Fire Down Below, in fifty seven bella Book and Candle, which is a movie on my list. That is a Jimmy Stewart going after a witch like a dating a witch movie. Really that sounds amazing. Yeah, nineteen fifty eight, Some Like It Hot, nineteen fifty nine, the classic I Love Some Like It Hot. Then he goes on into the Apartment in nineteen sixty The Wackiest Ship in the Army, How to Murder Your Wife, The Fortune Cookie, The Odd Couple, Roan and Martin's Laugh in The Out of Towners Avanti, Save the Tiger, Prisoner of Second Avenue Airport, seventy seven, The China Syndrome Missing That's Life, Dad JFK the player Glengary Glenn Ross, grumpy old man, grumpier old man. I always forget about him. And he's so good at Glengarry. Do you think do you think you remember Old Gil on Simpsons?

24:52 Yeah, hopefully this will be a chance for old Gill where they gets hit by car whatever. I feel like that character was based on his Glengary Glenn Ross. He was very like down trot Yeah, and you were like, why is this guy so sad? His life is existence is situationd so sad? So my fellow Americans in nineteen ninety six have you ever seen my fellow Americans? Was he? Was he the president? Yeah? It's him and James Garner. I love that out for an assassination, the assassination attempt on their lives. So I adore that. Oh it was so good. Yeah, that's a very good hamlet. In ninety six, Out to See, which was the last reuniting of Mathou and Lemon. In ninety seven, they did a remake of Twelve Angry Men in ninety seven, The Odd Couple two. Oh wait, a couple two? Was last one? Dumb? You think? Inherit the Wind In ninety nine, Legendibagger Vance in two thousand.

25:37 Hit the Wind was nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, because that's the thing I remember Jack Lemon for the most We watched that in high school. That was the tail end of his career. Was that one for the TV of the TV version? Well, so that means that was like brand new when they were showing it just in school. Probably. No, He's excellent and inherit The Wind fantastic film. So our next cast remember one of my and Hen's personal favorites, Walter Matho, who plays Max Goldman. One hundred and seven credits for Mathou, by the way, beats beats Lemon by seven, and I'm sure he's happy about that. So like fuck you you adawmn Swede. So he does The Big Story in nineteen fifty Lux Video Theater in fifty as well, also on the Philco television playofs which is where those two met. Okay, that makes sense, yea the Kentucky in in nineteen fifty five, Indian Fighter fifty five facing the crowd, King Crale voice in the Mirror Gangster Story in fifty nine, creole. It's okay if I shouldn't say the word creole anyway, let's just keep moving unless you're talking about foods. Stage Stranger's movie In nineteen sixty he does Alfred Hitchcock Presents in eighty one, Lonely Are the Brave in sixty two or sixty one for presents, Naked City in sixty two, Charade and sixty three, one of my favorite roles of his because he plays a villain. I could see him being a good villain. He's a very good villain. He also does It's Him Audrey Hepburn and God who's the leading that one? But that's a really like underrated, uh crime thriller.

26:56 It's got some humor to it. Yeah. I always of Mathow, but I had this weird thing the two old men actors that I just thought were the best when I was like, I'm talking young. Yeah, we're Walter Mathow and Charles Groden. I lovedown Croden just has a face. Well. I Foundroden in Beethoven, Yeah, and I found Mathou in Dennis the Menace. Yeah. So yeah, like I just like I always liked them a lot. Yeah, those two were fantastic. So continues into nineteen sixty eight with the Odd Couple Candy in sixty eight as well, Hello Dolly, Charlie Arrick, which is a really really good crime thiller that I showed my dad a couple of years ago that I think you would like, where Mathow was just a badass. I would love to watch Mathow be a badass.

27:38 Then he goes on to do the Laughing Policeman. Another crime thriller, Bruce Durnaan seventy three, The Taking a pell of one two three, the original with Robert Shaw, And that's a really really good movie as well. Earthquake, Earthquake, the front page Bad News Bears in seventy six, California. Sweet, I love the Bad News Betters Bears for the record, Such a nobody can be as apathetic the Children's Pain. Yeah as Walter Matt I mean, Billy bouth Thornton did a damn good job in that remake. But oh no no, but but he wasn't apathetic, No, he was like very good. You're bleeding Hopscott in nineteen eighty he does the Survivors in eighty three, the Robin Williams Walter Mathow movie. I showed you last year. That was so what's so weird? Who's that movie for? If you up there out there if you have not seen Survivors. With the Survivors Survivors, it is literally a comedy about about like doomsday militias. Yeah, don't ask me.

28:37 Oh, and Robin Williams gets fired by a parrot and it's probably like one of the funniest movie. Then he does Pirates in eighty six, The Countrip eighty eight, also in JFK in ninety one, by the way, Oh okay, yeah, Dennis the Menace ninety three, Grumpy Old Men ninety three. Oh, that was the same same year IQ in ninety four where he plays Albert Einstein. Oh, I remember that movie. He was an interesting choice for Einstein. He did a good job. He did, grew U year Old Men in ninety five out to C ninety seven, The Odd Couple of ninety eight and Hanging Up in two thousand. They passed I believe it was seven days apart. I think Lemon passed first and then Mathow passed seven days after. Well, Matho wouldn't allow it any other way. He wouldn't allow it anyway. So we have to talk about the credit. Yeah, that obviously made all of this movie happen. The Odd Couple, The Odd Couple absolutely one of my all time favorite comedies, all time favorite movies.

29:30 I actually got to screen it for the Hain crowd a year ago and a lot of them had never seen it before. Wow. For those who don't know, The Hater is a culture center. That's the worst. Yes, White people come up with so many interesting cultural center for a place where people watch movies. They're like, this is a culture center. It's an art place there. Yeah, you have exhibitsya. I was gonna say it's like a community space for enjoying entertainment. Yeah, yeah, company. I was just gonna use like a vague term, but no, no. And and you've often helped curate and promote events there. Yes. So meanwhile, when I do events, I'm just like, we're gonna watch Project Metal Beast.

30:10 You should you should start giving me once a month at the Hater. My god, just uh three months in a row Project metal Beast. But you see, he's a metal beast. But it's a project that makes him that. Do you know that's on DVD now you can actually get a physical copy. It's a burn of course, but probably is available to Oh yeah, but soon it'll be on Blu Ray. As the world runs out, of movies to be remastered. Then I will get my project. Metal Beast four keeps pushing, probably but no so. But it's important to mention the odd couple put them both on the map, and show business gave them both a career. Both of them were very uh we're actors who proved later on how good they were. Their versatility just there is no end to it.

30:56 I mean, I've seen Lemon Bee a very scary guy. I've seen Walter Matth I'll be a scary guy. I've seen them be complete like heart throbs for you know, just the slapstick humor and just over heart throbs for slapstick heart thoughts is not the right word. What whatever, that's my train of thought. English Man. Uh, you guys heard that right? Like throbs? Yes, do you Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do You Even movie? But no, like I mean, their versatility just has no ends. I've seen them do roles of all kinds and they never disappoint. They always just know how to sell a performance and a character especially, and the So Grumpy Old Men was like a huge reunion of them in their older It's actually in my in my notes, which I was saving for the end. But I'll tell you now, this was originally supposed to be Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra, but their health were failing towards this point, and they kind of sucked. They well, and they did.

32:13 I didn't feel like they had this buddy buddy. I mean, like, yeah, they held the rat pack of course. Oh no, No, I get why they wanted them, and I'm sorry to say they sucked. They didn't suck, but like Sinatra's a singer, Yeah, who did some acting. Oh my apologies. No, Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. That makes Oh no, that makes total sense. Yeah, my apologies. This freaking guy made me look like a jerk. No, that makes perfect sense. That would have totally the roles, but declined due to Martin's uh frail health which prevented him from taking the role. I mean it makes sense. He was, he was very up there and uh and math out. I'm sorry at this point in Jerry Lewis's career, I don't There's a movie that I love that I just discovered last year called Funny Bones that Lewis is a big part of, but I don't really think he was doing much around this time, well, he kind of look America shockingly got tired of making fun of women in the mentally challenged, So Jerry Lewis kind of lost his There's that old there's that whole joke. When I was growing up, the joke always was the French love Jerry Lewis. Yeah, that's why he's there now.

33:16 Yeah, but no, I mean there's a lot to like about Jerry Lewis's career and his performances, and I think that would have been a great swan song for them. But they there's something about this film that is so masterfully effortless. They it is so easy to watch them interact, like like the camera's not even there, it's just them being in the out takes. At the end of the film, there's a part where where math How is eire filming his close up where he's saying, you know, he's watching them drive away, and Lemon decided to like lean into the frame and be like who's leaving, and math How was just like like just breaks when Tea Yeah, he whts a tear from his eye because he thought that was so funny.

34:04 Yeah, because you know, they're serious actors, so he like was really getting himself in the moment and imagining everything to do the performance, and then all of a sudden, Lemon just leans in and who's leaving, And then it just clicks with him that He's like, oh my God, and I just love that. I don't even get the vibe that they're friends. I get the vibe that it's deeper than that. I could see that. No. Wo so, but all we can expand on that more as we talk about the film. Yeah, and getting into the last of our credits, we have Ann Margaret who plays Aerial True Rox on this. She was a singer on the Jack Benny Program in nineteen sixty one, goes on to do American Bandstand sixty one. She performed at the thirty fourth Academy Awards in nineteen sixty two, Wow Yeah, Okay, at Sullivan Show in sixty three, the Flintstones in sixty three. She also got The Ann Margaret Show in sixty eight. This is all of her singing career. Her acting was taken off in the background as well too, but she was also singing while she was acting. For the most part. She'd Pocket Full of Miracles in sixty one State Fair Viva las Vega is The Cincinnati Kids Stagecoach, The Cheap Detective fifty two Pickup in nineteen eighty six, which is a really really good crime thriller with Roy Schreider, John Glover and Ann Margaret. Really, I'm gonna show you that one. Huh yeah, New Life in eighty eight, New Season ninety two, does Grumpy Old Men in ninety three, Scarlet, which is the sequel to Gone with the Win for TV in ninety four, Grumpy Er Old Men in ninety five. She does Blue Rodeo in ninety six, Any Given Sunday ninety nine, Touched by An Angel two thousand, The Tenth Kingdom two thousand, Taxi, the remake of the Taxi series in two thousand and four, Oh, the Breakup in two thousand and six, The Santa Claus three, Ray Donovan Going in Style. Oh, she was on Ray

35:37 Donad was on Ray Donovan. Yeah remember that Happy The Christopher Maloney cartoon, The Crazy Cartoon, Rabbit Show, Oh yeah, twenty nineteen, and Holiday Spectacular, a Hallmark thing she just did recently in twenty twenty two. Oh. Well, good, she's still kicking around, still going at it, so yeah, very good. When did you first come into Grumpy Old Men. Well, it's a very personal question. Yeah, I mean it was on TV and well see young'in let me tell you something about life in the Old Dade. When I was but a boy, Grumpy Old Men was on HBO. I was not watching it on Comedy Central. That was like that was me in high school. It was on Comedy Central. I never saw it on those channels at all. It was always so But I remember my mother just laughing her ass off at this movie. She loved the odd Couple, so she wanted to watch it. We might have even rented it that I don't remember. That would have been I would have been in ninety three, I would have been six, you know, or something like that.

36:47 I'm I'm not a math technician, Okay, I'm a heart throb for math. Yeah, Enrique is right and also handsome, I'll but no. So I remember catching it on HBO often and really enjoying it. That's also where I saw the Dennis the Menace movie all the time. That makes sense. It was on HBO because they were newer movies. Yeah, so, yeah, I'd always gotten a kick out of it. I remember when I got older, like in my late teens and stuff being like, Wow, this is really good, like this is very very funny, outwardly funny. And then when I revisited it for the first time as an adult, probably when I was like twenty nine or thirty, I lost it. I could not believe how funny it wasn't how heart wrenching it was. Oh yeah, so that was my experience with it, But what about you? So, like I said earlier, this, I mean, this was on cable all the time growing up, so my parents were always watching it. I would catch it in random spots I would and usually would watch the whole thing. But it wasn't until like about a twenty I think like twenty fifteen or so.

37:59 I had gotten a really really bad flu and I was going home from work and I had to stop and get a couple of things, and it just so happened. I had to have been Walmart, because I don't know where else there would have been been a Blu Rays, although it may it may have been a Kroger. I probably wasn't Kroger, but there was just the thing of Blue Rays out and I was Kroger did not carry Blu Rays long it was. It wasn't like a regular thing. It was like these little sale boxes they would have like throughout the aisles of Oh yeah, yeah, I gotch And I remember like I was grabbing my crackers and my ginger ale and whatever the hell else I needed before I went home and hermited and I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna see if there's a movie in here. And I saw Grumpy Old Men double pack, and I was like, I haven't seen that in forever. So I took it home and you know, I'm trying to heal from a flu and whatnot, and I'm watching Grumpy Old Men. And I immediately finished it and went into Grumpy Old Men because I had such a damn good time with it. It's such a sweet movie and it's so much fun and also just completely gets you in that winter movie. It's a perfect winter movie. It takes place in Minnesota.

38:54 Well, Bosh wab a shot Waba shot Wabishop, Minnesota, and it was shot in Minnesota. Yeah, and so it's it's all tons of snow, plows, ice fishing. It's just well very that and a great supporting cast of Darryl Han, Daryl Hannah, Kevin Pollack, Ozzie Davis, and even Christopher McDonald schows up at one point too. Plus you have Burgess Meredith as the grandfather at best, he's the best. This movie is just so much not as the grandfather, he's just the father. Our main characters are elderly. Yeah, that's right, like what they call him, Grandpa ghost of Facility. I love that. Uh. And that's one of the best parts of this movie is that Jack Levan's character is stopping around. He's like his dad out there today. You're like dad, And it's Burges just married as old as hell, yeah, and twice as oranery as usual, portraying ninety four years old. He was eighty five at the time of this role.

39:46 Wow, yeah he was. He must not have been kicking around much longer. Seventeen years younger than Lemon. Wow. I believe that though, Yeah, I believe that. All right. So we're ready to break down grupy old men. I mean sure, all right. So we open with a beautiful shot of an ice fishing tense as the train rolls through Wabashaw. We see the town is just snow covered. We're in Rock Island, Wabashaw, and we meet John Gustafson and he is trying to flee his home because there's a gentleman outside his house knocking on the door from the IRS. And well, first of all, that's no gentleman. That's an agent of the federal government. Yeah, no gentleman at all. And let's just understand, as your style guide lifestyle coach, lifestyle coach, style guide of the program, you don't trust a fed. Nah, a fed is a fed is a fed. Yeah. Anyway, so he's fleeing from his house. He goes out the window, goes down the side of his roof, and he sneaks out the back and that's when he runs into Max, who's asking him what he's doing. He's like, keep it down, keep it down. And they walk around the side of the house together, and that's when mister Stider from the IRS comes up to them. He's like, you know, have you seen John Gustison. And that's when we get to see how much Max thinks of him, because he's like, oh, yeah, he's he's he hasn't been around lately. You might want to check the clubs, you know, the clubs were men dare Yeah, those no, he says, those pervert clubs, all the ones where the men take off their clothes. Uh, and that's great because yeah, Jack Lemon standing right next to him, to him, but he's also but here's the thing. It's a perfect establishment of their relationship. Yeah, because what he's actually doing is covering the coming for him. But he's just busting his balls while he does it. Yeah,

41:17 so he's just like, he's like, oh because remember he says, he's like, and that's just what he does. If he's taking his medicine, medicine. If he's not taking his medicine, he's probably wandering around talking to trees or something. Yeah, it's so good. It's such a great So Snyder hands in his card and he's like, you know, when you see him, like, you know, make sure he contacts me. And John takes the car. He's like, oh yeah, yeah I will, and they walk off. Watch they walk him, watch him slip in the ice, which I love. Oh yeah, so good. Oh oh yeah, slip slick out there. So they notice that someone's moving in across the street as they see movers unloading a truck. There's some sculptures, there's some paintings, but they don't see the homeowner yet. So John returns to his home and he finds the letter that Snyder looked under his door, which basically says he has thirty days to pay or he's gonna have to vacate the premises because they're taking the house. Yeah, it's his final notice. So the two are awoken late that night by sounds of a skidoo going up and down the street at one forty four in the morning. They go to their window and watch the rider pull up in front of the house and takes off her helmet to reveal Ariel, the new neighbor. Yes, played by Ann Margaret.

42:14 Yeah, and it's a very surprising moment because Lemon's just like, who's making all that annoying racket? And then she pulls the helmet off and you see the big red hair. Yep. Yeah, that's good stuff. So the next morning, John and Max brush off their cars and they're discussing their families and Max tells them that his son Jacob's coming over later and John tells them that Melody be coming over and they should make sure they have the two meat and we see Ariel come out of her house and she gets into her jeep and drives off. John goes to visit Chuck who is his buddy who owns the general store near the lake where they ice fish, played by Ozzy and played effortlessly, wonderfully by Ozzy Davis. Ozzy Davis an incredible character actor, probably more credits than both of them combined. Honestly, he also lived a lot longer than they. Surprise me, Ozzie Davis just straight up goat MVP. I mean, most people remember him. He has a very memorable moment in what one hundred and thirteen credits? Dang, Yeah, so he beats both of them. Yeah, I believe it. Uh, But he was in Bubba Hotep, which a lot of people because that was a very memorable role he plays. For those who have never seen Bubba Hotap, he plays John F. Kennedy, the President who was never killed. Instead, they took a piece of his brain and then, and I'm quoting the movie, they dyed his skin black so no one would believe him yep, and stuck him in a nursing home. It's so good God that if you haven't seen Bubba Hotap, this is this is the year that you need to see Bubba Hotep because it just celebrated. It's like, what twentieth anniversary. I think it was. I think that was last year. Yeah, last year, yeah, yeah, yeah, And Dave, I can't recommend enough seeing

43:45 it the drive in with Joe Bob Briggs hosting it. If d why are you so mad? Why you so mad? Because I want to go to a jamboree just once. Well, have to win a lottery. They're not that expense, they're expensive, and you want to do all the things. Hey, I only did two. Yeah, I didn't do the third one in Vegas. So Chuck is talking to John and John gets his beer and his worms to go fishing. He then drives to the lake and meets his father, who is a grandpa Goosefsen played by Burgess Meredith and my god, this is one of his best roles. Oh he's you can tell he is having a time. He's just going ham smoking cigarettes but throwing at in you windows. And of course John tells about the new neighbor and Guffson says, what are you too young? Why don't you go after her? Well?

44:28 No, The first thing he says is he says like it's a woman moved into the so and s house, And he goes, did you mountain? Did you mount her, did you mount her? I'm just I'm saying it again so that everybody can understand his first question was did you mount her? And that meredith way that he can only say it, well, he literally can't help it. There may be something horribly wrong with him, just maybe. So the two return home the same time as Max is bragging and showing off this huge line of fish that he caught, while John just got like this, Me's one two, yeah, Measley two. And John retaliates then by taking one of the fish off the line and putting it right into the back seat of Max's car, which, honestly, with how cold it was in Minnesota, I feel like it would have taken a really long time for staying start. But that's just me. So later that night, there's a knock on the door, which makes John think that Snyder's back, so he goes to his window sneaks out on the roof, except he slips off the roof, falling down into the snow, right in front of Ariel, who smiles at him, and he tries to explain himself, but she just asked if she can come inside and use the bathroom, boasting that she can tell a lot about a person just by seeing their bathroom. I suppose that's true.

45:34 I would think so. I mean, your bathroom says a lot about you. I mean it used to before we took care of all the nautical theme to it. You took care of the nautical theme. You don't remember when we redid the bat what the bathroom looked like older versus now when we did the we redid it a year and a half ago. I actually I apologize. I don't subscribe to your bathroom blog. You helped me move in, don't remind me I should have never done. I should from now on. David, huh, I'll only help you move if you're moving out of the scale. O. Yes, do you even? Movie? Will be right back. Welcome back to do you even? Movie? So she returns, telling him that it's fascinating, asking him if he'd like to introduce himself, and she says that she already knows his name, and admits to stealing his mail to learn a little bit more about him. But there's nothing there to learn. It's not a big confession. She's just like I looked, I went through your mail. It's a really good way to get to know something. So she makes herself comfortable, sitting down at his chest table and telling him that she teaches classic literature, and before introducing herself to him as Ariel, she explains that her past she was a teacher, that she's just moved to the area to continue teaching classic literature as well, and she also questions if he's heterosexual or homosexual. Yeah, because when she finds Outny singles she knows heterosexual or homosexual Yeah, which it stifles him for me, He's just like what Yeah, And it should be mentioned she is like the epitome

47:05 of from California. Yeah, No, she's she is a free spirit, and she doesn't stop talking for like the moment that they start meeting inside his house, and then like when he finally gets the words in like she's she still continues the conversation for him. Yeah. So the two briefly talk before John walks her out, and before returning to Ariel, he makes a chess move because she calls one out as she's walking away, and so he goes to the board and makes the move that she called. Yeah. It becomes very clear that they have a lot in common yeah. Uh, interest wise, Yeah, and a lot in common life wise, personalities. Their personalities mesh really well. So we next see John and Max both at the local pharmacy. They're comparing their various illnesses that they've had between their pain, their pains and whatnot. I had a gallstone size of a baseball. So that Ariel walks in, introducing herself to Max and returning some of his male that she accidentally got as well. Yeah, quote unquote accidentally. She questions the pharmacists if her herbal supplements have arrived yet. The pharmacist confirms that they have all the way from California, which a kind of annoys the pharmacis's wife, who's off to the side because he just kind of puts all her atta because he's giving her like googly eyes. Yeah, he's very interested in her tea trioilree oils. Yes, so he excused, She excuses herself, and we see John and Max pawning over her once again. We next see John having movers remove his piano as his daughter, Mel, who is played by Daryl Hannah, arrives with her granddaughter. Mel tells her father that her and her husband are having some issues and they're probably going to separate, and the two discussion is broken up by Ariel, who screams from merging from her sauna in the backyard. And she's just having a good time diving into the snow.

48:38 You don't even mention she's in a one she's in a swimsuit. So she's in a swimsuit, jumps into the snow and is like throwing it in her face and go like waves at them. Hi, because she's like, who is that. He's like, I don't know. She's like, well, she knows you, she knows you. So she clivers herself in snow then runs back into the sauna. Later that night, Jacob Max's son stops in with his mayoral candidate sign and Max tells him that he should stop him for a bit and have dinner, but Jacob says that he's busy and he can't, and Max is like, oh, you know, just one drink. We can have one drink. But it's telling about how lonely Mathow is. Yeah, it is very telling that his son like doesn't spend a ton of time with him. Although it's not like his son's a loaf, you know, he's got aspirations. He wants to be the mayor of a little town that he grew up in and stuff. But yeah, it's very like kind of sad but also kind of sweet. How he's just like, okay, just a drink, a little tiny drinks, so a little time drink.

49:30 But that's broken up because Max realizes he has to keep his schedule. As he goes to the window, which is right across from John's house, and John's sitting down with his dinner, getting ready to watch the lottery numbers come out. Yeah, Max starts changing his channels as the numbers starts dropping. We find out just a little bit sooner or a little bit later that he was a TV repairman. Yeah, and he literally has a little tray full little promotion remotes so you can go over there and drink and change it. So as they're reading the numbers, he just changes the channel over. My favorite thing was that they had the most obnoxious commercials. Yeah, and I was able to turn to you and be like, David, those are real that those every single one of those commercials. They were like pizza Hut commercials and stuff like that. They were all legit. I remember all of those commercials running. They were mostly from ninety two. Yeah, so ninety two was like a peak time for me of like growing into watching TV. Terminator two was coming out stuff like that. Yeah, but yeah, because there's one one of the commercials is a Pizza High commercial where they're doing a conga line, yeah, and they smush a kid. It's like the joke in it. And I just felt the need to tell you because they were showing the most bizarre ones. I was like, those are all real commercials that were actually on the air. So Jacob questions if John started every eraf John started every fights in nineteen forty, but Max corrects him, nineteen thirty eight is when it fights started. Nineteen thirty eight. So Jacob goes to open the window, calling to John and for his father to apologize, but as Max goes to the window, he gets blasted by a hose as John blast him from the yard across the way. Jacob then goes outside later as he's leaving his dad's house and sees John is spraying the roof with water so that it'll fall on him the next day from the snow and tells him he won't tell his dad that. He agrees to take one of his signs and puts

51:02 in his yard, which then gives you a really good concept with Gustopsin because yeah, he he's like i'd be pretty prod like he likes him. He really does like him, and that's very very apparent. Yeah, it's just that him and his dad have this long standing rival. Yeah, and I need long standing. It's nineteen ninety three, they're talking about nineteen fifty eight or some some stuff, so like it's it's very long standing and h but I love the interactions with with his with Pollock. Kevin Pollack is the son. I think he's just a really good example of like the level headed nature of the kids and how the dads are. They're bored and they're stir crazy and that makes them be a little bit more childish shit time. Well, and even if they're curmudgey like they're still they're still friendly to one another, even if they're greeting is hello dickhead, Hello schmuck, Hello punch. My favorite when he's like you dumbed sweet. So the next morning, John plans backfires as the snow from the room missus Max and he tells him you gotta use warm water. John then says that he'll never get him. He then goes to his car finds the dead fish. But he's trying to well, he doesn't find the dead fish. He starts smelling in the car. Oh, he's driving, and this is terrifying because Mathow's reaching back behind him as he's driving this car, swerving all over the road. Iist over roads, and the thing I love was that they depict the roads as never clear, never clear, never clear, never know. There's a plow going around, But all the plow does is make sure your car is covered buried in.

52:28 Yeah, so he's trying to remove it, just causing hasbak on the road as he drives over. Max gets to Chuck's General store and John shortly arrives. After telling him that Ariel came to see him late last night. John and Max both stay to each other that neither of them want to pursue her, until Chuck basically calls them on their bullshit and claims that they're both chickens, stating, you know, you got a beautiful woman across the street. You know what more are you waiting for? Yeah? Why wouldn't you? Yeah. So the three go to leave and Max questions Chuck if he uh if he stinks, and Chuck says, yep, just joking with him. So then we see get back into his car, which is now decked out with every air freshener possibly. Yeah, there's like there's like a forest of tree shaped fresheners. He digs around in the back fighting the fish, and John is watching from his car as he drives past, and that's when Max chucks the fish of the car and John calls him a schmuck throwing the fish and it hits the back of the cars he drives. And that's the thing is they like so effortlessly are like at each other, yeah all the time, very very funny. Their reactions are very like, well it's my turn now, Well it's my turn now. That's one of the things I love when math I was telling his son like he doesn't know what's me doing it and he's like changing the channel. Then when he goes to apologize, make make his dad apologize and opens the window, he sprays his house because it's like, yeah, who else would screw with him? He knows it's you.

53:45 It's so clear. I love that gag. I love it. So back in his ice shanty, Max fishes and he starts to see a bite on his rod, which he's not holding whoa, whoa whoa. That's a very oh oh okay fishing pole, fishing rod whoa, which is pulled into the lake because he can't get to it in time. So he rushes out and starts searching the ice, trying to find his road as it's going through the ice. John and his father arrive to the supply truck around the area and they witness Max just hacking away at the ice in an axe. After like two or three swings, he just gives up. Well, and it should be mentioned, So I just got back from being up in northern Michigan and it was just ice fishing season was probably gonna start like three days after I left because it had just finally gotten really cold. And I've been out on ice fishing lakes. I never went ice ice fishing, but I've been on different sized lakes. Yeah, I now know why in movies and depictions of ice fishing people like try to reach and grab and get stuff. Those lakes are not deep at all a lot of times their deepest point is like six or seven feet so because lakes just aren't that deep in general. I mean, some lakes will be ten feet deep. But I remember when I was on ho Houghton Lake, which is a giant lake in Michigan. Yeah, and because that's where I went snowma. The lady was telling us like, oh it, the deepest point is maybe twelve feet, but most of the most of it is four to six. So like when cars would fall through the ice, which didn't happen very often unless people didn't pay attention to the reports in the morning. Yeah, but when cars would fall through,

55:17 they'd be like, well, as soon as the ice thaws, like they can get it out. It's not that deep. So it does make sense to try to rescue something because it's not like there's this feeling. Especially I've always had that like the icehole is just the abyss. Yeah, and you will never get anything that falls through it back. But apparently, like in reality, it's just a shallow l good to know though, especially is that one video we were watching, which it turned out to be fake, but that car falling through the Oh yeah, sorry, I ruined that that video was a fraud. It was a fraud, and I'm sad. Well, see it's a win for me, that is true. So at the house, Jacob helps Mel with the groceries as they reminisced some and mel admitting she saw Jacob watching her all those years when they were growing up across the street from each other, and why did he never ask? There is heavy duty will they won't they? Between Pollock and Darryl. Hannah's character character who we've already been established that she has separated from her husband, has a beautiful daughter and is sweet as fucking sugar, you know, like she's so so kind.

56:16 There's like her rapport with Jack Lemon. It very makes it very clear that Lemon's character was always much sweeter and much more caring. But if you look at their backstory, it actually makes sense. Lemon school teacher. That means he liked being around children. That means that he liked kids in general. They start to hint at that his marriage wasn't that great, but he was still a very happy person. He's very active in his daughter's life, he loves his granddaughter, adores his own art. But then you look at Mathow's character. He was a television repairman. That's a little bit more of a solitary technical job. So he's a little bit more solitary and a little bit more technical. He likes to sit around his house, watch the boob tube, eat a little something. He does like to see his son, but his son is very like him. Yeah, he's very like kind of button up in a little bit whatever. But we also get the reference to the idea that his marriage was actually very good, Yeah, and that he was he loved his wife very much, and that kind of like hits you in the heart, petty hard. No, it absolutely does. I mean, that's their relationship even more so drives that because even though they're at each other's necks all the time, like they do care and we see that more as the movie goes. So John breaks them up asking about the turkey because we find out that it's Thanksgiving day. Mel runs into the house because he said, is the turkey supposed to be smoking? That is the turkey supposed

57:49 to be smoking. So John then tells Jacob that they're getting a divorce and ask if he's pursuing anybody. He just kind of throws that out there. Oh yeah, yeah, he's very sly. Yeah, Jack Lemon all but said, all but says, give me a goat and you can have my daughter. Yeah, yeah, just barely before taking this subject to Ario when admitting he hasn't had sex in fifteen years, which you caught. That was probably an improvisation because the way that Pollock responds, he looks like he's breaking. Yeah, no, no, just he just slaps he slaps his hand on pollocks shoulder and just goes, I haven't had sex in fifteen years and then walks away. Pollock is clearly about to break. I really think that that was just a tag. At the end of the scene, he added, absolutely, because because Pollock, I love Kevin Kevin Pollack right via, I love him. I think he's extremely underrated. And the look on his face just looks so much like the interviews with him and stuff where he's legitimately laughing about something. Yeah. So that was a great example. But then when we see at the end, when we see outics, we realize it was a very improvisational set. Oh yeah, so yeah, I think that's like one of those top ten moments of the whole movie. All right, So we next see the two families celebrate and Thanksgiving at their homes and witnessing Chuck pull up with Flowers as he goes across the street to Ariel's house as she invites him in, which is important because although it is subtext. Kevin Pollack's character is a vampire, so they can't believe it, and it was.

59:10 We see them the next day, both racing to Chuck's general store to question him. Chuck tells them that they're just there. Some experience is too beautiful to put into words, before he even tells them that he's not talking about sex. He's just talking about the time that they were able to share together and how she opened him back up. She made him feel like he was a man, and he basically to me, I got the vibe that what he's saying is she just gave him good company. Yeah, she just laughed at his jokes and enjoyed hanging out with him. But they're pretty positive. They're like, so, yeah, had sex, yeah, and he's like, no, no, we did. And then they're like I couldn't go and ask him about his equipment was it working right? And Chuck tells him it was an awakening, like being young again, if only for a moment. They go to leave, as Chuck mentions, it's not just a woman across the street, She's an angel and it's very sweet, very sweet.

59:59 Do you even he will be right back, Welcome back to do you even movie. So we then cut to a montage of both John and Max grooming themselves separately that we've got multer math out in the tub and he's he's scrubbing himself. Oh my god, he's got like a like a soap on a stick or something, and he is just going to tone because when that scene started, I was like, get in there, get in there, get it all clean. And John's across the street doing his shaving and then his after shape he does the home alone. Ah yeah, yeah, He's like, get well because they show him shaving against the grain and then checking how smooth it is, which you know means it's gonna really burn when you put on that after shavee. So we find Max at Ariel's house as he she shows off her home to him and the art that she has. Max finds her TV is gutted with a fishbowl inside of it, and he questions why she did that. It deeply bothers me. He's like, that's a zine if whatever. I'm like, that's a classic. I could fix it for you if you want. That's what I used to do. Yeah, I love that, he stage, and then she's like no, I like it the way the way it is, and then as she's walking away, he's just like, how do you watch it show? Yeah, it's so good. So he wonders further into the house and comes across the statue of a nude man as Ariel tells him that that was her husband and he has since passed on across the street, though, we see John watching the house and the clock, just trying to figure out how long the Mathol character has been over there. Yeah, he well, he's been like obsessed with this

1:01:30 woman pretty deeply, but he doesn't want to admit it, but he is. So Ariel asks Max what does he do for his form of release, first, asking if he doesn't he painting or anything, and Max tells her that he fishes and even invites Ariel out to his ice shanny. Tomorrow, we watched them split for the night as John watches again from his window across the street, and the next day they go to his ice shanty, Max and Ariel and we see them having fun. They're fishing, they're struggling to pull the rod in, but just still having a great time, laughing and alerting everybody on the lake that like something is going on. Sounds like they're making whoopee to use a term as old as Mathou himself. Yeah uh. And then after catching the fish, they catch a really big fish, big fish, and she insists on throwing it back yep, and it plops back into the water. He can even take a photo. He wants to give his camera, so he's rsted around. He gets the camera and she's like, oh, here we go and just puts the fish back in. Because he always gave Jack Lemon's character crap because he would claim that he caught this really big fish but there's no evidence. Yeah. Yeah, so Max cat get the picture in time before she sets it back free. John goes over to his dad shack, finding his father that had found Max's old fishing rod.

1:02:35 But also one of my favorite Burgess meritaith moments is he opens the door, he's like, oh, what's going on? Is oh just finishing breakfast as he has the flask he was drinking whiskey, so which is titty out here? And he finds that his grandfather or his dad found Max's old rod, so he takes it and he's going back to the goes back to give it to a chuck, but he finds the Chuck's back doors a lot, so he walks around front and he finds a cop putting closed side on the door, walking away and locking it. And that's when we begin to know. I mean he knows immediately because there's a whole scene at the beginning of the film where they're scraping their cars, Yeah, Lemon and Mathow, and they're scraping their cars and literally just talking about all the people are dead, you know, because it's like, oh, this friend died, and this friend died and this friend. Because that's uh, that's a that's a harsh reality of being an older person is your friends. They they don't live forever.

1:03:27 They they pass away, and it's a it's a hard reality, No, it absolutely is. We find Max and Ariel returning to their to her home as she tells them they're going to be great friends. Friends friends is good. He takes it pretty well, he does. Yeah, So Max asks well what she's doing later, but she tells him that she has plans, but they'll get a rain check. Max goes home, finding John in his backyard chopping wood, and he tells them that Chuck passed his last night in his sleep. The two then get into it verbally about who was the better friend to him. They across their fences, coming face to face before John says it's not war it and he returns home stating that it's not worth it, and he catches sight of Max's rod on the table, which he then picks up and steps in half. Yeah, which is like a really sad, like a really clear moment where it's like feelings are hurt, people are hurt, things are not not They're complicated. So Max returns home angry as well, and he finds a hat from Chuck's store on it and kind of takes a second. A knock brings out on John's door as he comes face to face with mister Snyder requesting for him to accompany him to the office.

1:04:28 I love the part where he sees Chuck's hat because that's the moment where you actually get the idea that they do mourn. Yeah, they're friends, it's just different because your friends are passing away so often. Yeah, because he just looks at the hat and he takes the breath and he goes, ah, Chuck. He takes it in for a second and you just kind of see that wash over. No, it's a really great It's a great simple moment that adds a lot to the scene. But yeah, so now he's no longer able to hide from the irs. Yeah, And consistently his daughter has asked like, is something wrong? Are you upset? It's something bothering you? And he's always no, no, no, no no. And I gotta say because we're almost to it. But when we get to why the I R. S Is trying to ruin his life? Yeah, I mean, I couldn't hate the irs more if I try, but they nearly got me to hit him more. So. John returns home later to find someone is in his home. He arms himself with a baseball bat, enters the kitchen to find aerial cooking for him, and we see the two of them sitting down to a nice dinner. There's no evidence she was cooking.

1:05:25 The only evidence is she was burning some garlic for him. And the peppers, well, the peppers can be put in early kids. Kids, Oh god, kids. She has a walk. She makes him like Asian food and one that's what it was, thank you and literally though, the first thing you see is she's got this walk on the on the burner and she throws a bunch of garlic in You never put garlic first, it'll burn. Garlic has to go last in a walk, stir fry so that it doesn't burn. You can put shallatsan earlier or onions, but never garlic. It's gonna burn right away. And went out there. I was like, Oh, she's burning garblic for him. How nice. So we see them having dinner, sitting at dinner having a nice time. The next day, John questions his dad if she if she go, if he should go after her, and his dad tells him, you're not getting any younger, and we then see him an Ariel riding past on the skidoo through the snow as he takes her to the top of the hill viewing Wabashaw. Ariel tells him it reminds her of one of the last trips she took with her husband before falling back into the snow and making a snow angel, which then he joins her. And it's a really super cute, so so cute. No, I love their romance, Yes, I really do. He even questions if she believes in angels, and she tells him they're everywhere, and he states he thinks that he's looking at one right now ahon. We next see Max at home watching TV, looking a bit miserables. Across the street, he sees the lights on and Ariel and John are facing each other playing chess.

1:06:48 She gets up and begins looking at his various frame pictures on his mantles, and he tells her about the family, coming to a young picture of Max and John at age ten, confessing that their rivalry started over a woman. Yes, because they were best buddies before that. They're both holding their fishing rods on a frozen leg. Yeah, it's it's very cute, but yeah, and then it all starts to make sense. It all started because a woman, he even says, though, but what is it like? I was just a kid. I didn't know. I didn't know any better. And then, of course, smooth transition, though this guy knows what He's an operator, so yeah, because he says, I'm not a kid anymore. They go in for a kiss, as Ariel stops him for a second, stating that it's time for bed and thinking that she's leaving. Yeah, I think it's time time for bed. Thinking she's leaving, John follows her to the door, but she walks his door and leads away up the stairs and John tells her that he's nervous, and Aerial questions, well, when's the last time that you made love? Well, well, he doesn't say I'm nervous, he says, are we I'm not prepared. I've been told you're supposed to have safe sex. And she says, when's last time you made love? And he's like October fifth, nineteen seventy eight or seventy two or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, She's like, well, I haven't had sex in five years. I think will be plenty of I think we're going to be very sick. Yeah. Yeah, it's very, very funny scene.

1:08:00 So the next morning, we see Max going across the street to aeros of flowers as she emerges from John's house, catching him, thanking him for the flowers. He returns home frustrated. As John is getting up and having a great morning dancing to good Loving, he's in his underwear making breakfast, even adding hot sauce to the breakfast. Yeah, and he's referenced how hot sauce will make him make him struggle, you know. And I want to point out this scene because this is what I was talking to you when we were watching it. I just love this because this is the first time that we see him cooking, not making a TV dinner or anything like that. Like, this is just him loving his life, having a nice breakfast and he's just feeling the morning. Yeah, I would have to agree. It's it's one of the few times where he seems like he's he's really living and not just existing. So he notices the broken rod on his counter, Max's old rod, and he thinks. As we see Max back at his shack drinking, he gets a knock on the door. Max back at his shack that was with that and he gets a knock on the door. He walks outside and he sees John just going about his day talking to everybody on the ice. He looks down and he sees that the rod has been given back to him as well. We next see John in his shack enjoying a record.

1:08:59 He's sitting back with a drink and his fishing pole, when suddenly the shack begins to move as we see that Max has hooked it up to his car. It is pulling him across the lake. This is what we would call the moment of over escalation. Yeah, he is now dragging his shanty with him in it across the ice. He's he's not dragging, he's pushing, pushing it. Yeah, he's pushing it and just running him across the lake to where the ice is thin. Yeah, and it gets thin as the shack sinks into the ice because John he slams his brakes, lets it slide over the ice. He has to jump out of his shack as it sinks into the water, which is just like I said, this is the moment of over escalation. Yeah, you could have killed someone, don't you. Yeah. So John questions his motives and reminding him of the of the pole, but Max is clearly upset that John has stolen the love of his life. The two then get into a fistfight, trading a couple swings and punches as the group forms around them, rooting them on. They then slip on the ice together and the group disperses as Jack throws or as John throws one final punch, and they argue over the woman of their past. Before the two forget what they were fighting about. Max questions then if John and Ariel have slept together, and John tries to escape the question, but then admits they had sex and it was the greatest he's had in the longest time.

1:10:03 Yeah. No, he says, it's the best sex in my life. Yeah. Max then goes to attack him with a frozen fish, but it's broken up as Grandpa Gustasen tells them to stop put down the fish. Oh my god. When Burgess Marrier comes out and says, stop that right now, he goes, mister they're sixty years old and still afraid of his dad. They're both retired, and when Castops goes, what are your boys doing? He goes, mister Gustopson, I'm sorry. So he breaks it up and Max is defeated by the questions and he knows that he's gonna take He asked her how is he gonna take care of her? When the ir S sees is the house walking off, saying that he doesn't have time to go look for another woman. So he's mad at John for stealing what he thinks is the love of his life, and well for stealing another another.

1:10:50 Yeah life, because they that's where we're heading to it. Yeah. Yeah. Do you find out that they that that did he cheat with his wife? Is that what happened? No? No, no, they just both wanted the same girl and Lemon's character ended up with the girl, but his immediate response was like, she was no easy person to be married. She wasn't the best wife ever. And then he mentions even even points out that, uh that, uh, Mathow's wife was like really a good person every because during the Thanksgiving episode or part, everybody's talking about how wonderful she was, a great cook, she was loving mother, she was very kind. Yeah, and Mathow's obviously never been the same since he lost her. Uh So, now we realize that Jack Lemon ended up winning the girl all those years ago, and that it's very clear Lemon doesn't feel not not necessarily because the marriage was hard. Because even Lemon, when he's talking to his sister his daughter about being married, he says, like marriage is hard, it's really difficult work or whatever. But he feels bad because he knows that Mathow always kind of never got over it, obviously because their their competition ever ended.

1:11:56 And now he's like, why, you know, why should I take it from him again? You know, that's the way he feels, and that honestly hits me so hard. But then that's where things take a real harsh turn, because now Lemon is basically just going through the motions. Yeah, all that liveliness is just totally gone's gone, and he's just you know, going through the door, going through the whatever. And meanwhile Mathou is living it up, being friends with this woman, yeah, and having a great time. Yeah, And he wants that extra step. So that's why he still holds the hostility towards him, is because he knows that she's falling for him, but he wants her the most. So the later that night, we see John sitting alone in his chest set as Max comes to the window. He shuts the light off, going back to their old portrait, saying, this time, Max, I'm gonna let you win. He stopped by going up the steps as Ariel tells him that she's brought the date to him if they're not going to go out, revealing a painting that she made for him of two people making snow angels, stating that he inspired it for her. And this scene is really painful because he basically tells her she is pushing herself on him. Yeah, he doesn't want her around, and that she that's the meanest part, that she is the one who can't stand being alone to be able, but he's fine with it and he'd rather be alone, and she and and you got to think about it. From the context of the story, she appears to be this free spirit, and she is.

1:13:15 But when she mentions that she hasn't slepped with anybody since her husband, her husband's been gone five years, that's when you realize that she really opened herself up and was vulnerable. And now Jack Lemon's character saying like I don't want anything to do with you, yeah, is really demonst and she storms across the street, throws the painting on the ground, and Matthews sees it all mathouses it. Also. The next morning, we see John in his car getting a paper a gathering is or getting his tax papers gathered. Jacob greets him holding presents as John congratulates him on his win and invites him over for Christmas Eve. So we're on Christmas Eve, yes, and since Mel will be there, he would love for them for those two to hook up again. We then see Max and Ariel return on her skidoo, both having a bunch of fun. John go into his house with his papers, and we see Mel arrive that night with Mike, her husband, who you know, we were supposed to hear heard about them getting separated. Yeah, they were separated, not divorced. Separated, tells John they're working things out, but John isn't having it, questioning his methods on making up his mind and asking if everybody should put their lives on hold while he works things out.

1:14:17 Mel tries to explain it to him as John admits that the house is being taken from him and his pension is gone, and he tells Mel that if she sees a chance at a good life to grab for it. He then tells her that he's going to go to uh what is it? What's the bar? Slippery slippery, Yeah, and that he'll be back later. Yeah. He's basically very disappointed in her for being back with this jerkwad husband. Granted he is the father of her child, but he's he's very mean to him. That it's Christoper McDonald. Should we should went that out, the quintessential dickhead, dickhead of the nineties. Yeah, actor wise, I'm sure he's he's got to be so nice, heah and and uh so he storms off to the bar, but Jacob stops him, and he that's when you know, Jacob's like, you know, should I come in and he's like, oh, yeah, go ahead, not knowing that Mike is there.

1:15:00 Yeah, and that's heartbreaking too, because brocoli from mistletoe substitution. And it's worth mentioning they mentioned in Passing he won. The mayor is the mayor of the town now. So Jacob goes. Jacob goes inside, and you know, he's got this little piece of brocoli and he's like, I couldn't find he mistletoe. So they share a kiss as Mike comes around the corner, unveiling to Jacob that he's here, so then kisses him on the cheek. She kiss him on the cheek. Yes, So he goes, uh, we see that. Max asks what's going on, and John tells him that he tried to steal Aeriel from him, adding that the door is open and he knows where to find him. Jacob tells him that she go down to Slipperies and apologize to John, or at least check on him because it's Christmas. Yeah, and uh, and this is where the emotions get really heavy.

1:15:44 Yeah, and and this is really where the movie hits its stride and and kind of gets us to where I don't know, I love I love this this is the best. So At Slippery's, we see John sipping a beer as Max enters, wishing a merry Christmas, before sitting down with them talking about Melanie and Mike getting back together, but John tells him they're getting a divorce. Max tells him he came to tell him some things and John tells him to spit it out, which frustrates Max and he scoots down from the bar from him, but he says that he was gonna thank him, questing John to say thank him, John asks Mask if he loves Ariel, adding that it would make the whole thing worthwhile if he does. Max wants to think it's still about the fishing pole, but John says he's so damn blind that he doesn't understand, and he storms out, telling Max that she that Max tells John that he that she shows him right. So then John walks in walks out into the falling snow, and Max is still sitting at the bar sipping his beer as he goes off the chase after him. We then see John start to experience a heart attack as he's walking across the way.

1:16:40 He falls into the snow as Max is slowly trekking back after him. He finds John in the snow, and Max or John is still coherent as he tells him to wait, he'll be right back. He runs to the front door of the home that they're in front of asks for somebody to call the hospital. We see them next to the hospital as Max questions a nurse where John is, and the nurse questions if he's friend or family. Yeah, and it's a really incredible moment. He thinks for a second before admitting a friend, and we see that she takes him to the room and we see johns hooked up to a bunch of machines and he's sleeping. Max wishes him a merry Christmas. We next see Max going to Ariel's house as he tells her what happened, and she is next scene at the hospital with John stating that she knows that he wanted to get rid of her, but isn't this a little drastic? Which is a great Which is a really really great line. I really enjoyed that gag. Yeah, John cracks a smile and she explains her husband passed at Easter, so if he passes a Christmas, she'll just have no holiday to look forward to, adding that she can wait for the time for him to get better. Yeah, it's very it's very sweet. Yeah. Back at John's house, Max is trying to reason with the IRS, but the IRS tells him that due to his wife's income and the benefits that they received, that the time would have like twenty five years or so should have been taxed on. It was. It was not quite that long, but it was. It was basically that he got he his wife had a part time job that wasn't declared on the taxes. Yeah, so basically he owes thirteen thousand dollars, but with fees and stuff, it ends up being fifty seven thousand dollars. So he's got to lose his house to pay the taxes. Obscene, and Mathow's character responds to it as this is warm. Yeah. So he's pissed off of the IRA as obviously, and he's next scene putting a fish in Snyder's car, but he's also barricaded

1:18:10 the front door, causing Snyder to start hacking at the door, revealing that the roof has been iced over as he does so well Jacob but then appears with the court order telling them that they can't touch the house for thirty days. But just as the guy takes the notice, all the snow falls on to Snyder, burying him in the snow. Yeah, and we really are lucky that Mathow's kid is the mayor. He's able to stop them for a little while. Yeah, for thirty days too, they have time to save the house. So Jacob looks over at Max and Ariel that are cheering from the snow falling down. We next see them outside of a church as Jacob and Mel arrive, and they play the scene so brilliantly because yeah, yeah, everybody's wearing black. Yeah, everybody looks off. Yeah, and they really make you think it's a funeral. Yes, they really fake you out.

1:18:54 Oh and Jacob tells Mel that he's sorry to hear about the divorce, and Mel says that she's doing okay. But they're interrupted as Grandpa goofs and tells them to get their asses inside, revealing that John and Ariel are getting married. Yeah, it's a great fake out. I love the two because it's easy to fake them out too, because like, why is e were wearing black? Oh that's just their winter coats, dude, it's their winter coats. So the wedding goes off As the happy couple walks out, Max hands John an envelope for thirteen grand, telling him not to get too excited because it's only alone. Yeah, don't get too excited. That's alone. Yeah, And he bets him that he can't get it up the whole trip, and he tells them that they're on. You're on if. We then see Max and Aerol getting the limo. They begin kissing each other, but John starts to smell something and Max watches that the limo comes to a stop. John lets out his hand, dropping the fish out of the window as Max looks up and smiles wishes them well. We next see later that night that Jacob is at the house asking his dad what he wants to watch, but Max comes down dressed to the nines carrying a bottle champagne, stating that the Daughters of the American Revolution at the VFW and he's gonna go see if he can find one. He might get lucky. Don't get lucky, don't win. That's a really nice moment where he's just so lively. Yeah, and the movie closes as he leaves. Jacob then watches across the street as Mel is hanging one of the clothes in the window. She catches sight of him looking and smiles at him. He turns off the light and goes across the street, or goes across the way to her, goes indoor. She invites him in, and that is the end of Grumpy Old Man, A movie where everybody kind of winds up where they need to be yes and I I just adore the film. It's such a good movie. I mean, my final thoughts on it would be that this is an absolute rented I would say, this is one that you're you're probably gonna have to spend some money on because I couldn't find it streaming anywhere unfortunately. Well yeah, yeah,

1:20:25 uh well but uh but I mean your rating is rented. My rating is rented. I think I disagree. You think it's a by it. It is absolutely a bid it. I mean it it's a by it if you if you yeah, actually it's no. This is like a quintessential movie. This is this is everybody likes. Who would not like this movie? I mean really, who would not? And I don't I don't mean, like, I know, if you're listening this you're like, I don't like it. That's fine. You're one person I mean, like, what sub section of human life would just not like like this? You know, Terminator too. Some people might not like it. Yeah, you know it's violent, it's got this or whatever. This movie's a little bit raunchy, but it has a really good message about getting older, about taking care of your friends, about loving people. Friendships made the oddest of circumstances, absolutely and how.

1:21:12 And also it says a lot about something that people don't talk about a lot, which is how men who end up alone cope, how men's friendships work, and the idea of two older men looking out for each other and being friends is not uncommon. It does happen. Although the idea of two guys being really good buddies who bust each other's balls all the time, I don't buy that as real at all. And I don't think guys really do that. No, not at all, No, not at all, your little fucker. So, before we close out, some notes on the movie. This was the sixth pairing of Lemon and Math altogether in a movie. This was the sixth pairing that it ate total wow, But it was the first. Was it the first one in their twilight years? Yeah? The first one. I think twenty years apart, I think, yeah, okay, that's what I thought. Yeah. So after filming this movie Minnesota and freezing temperatures, Mathou was hospitalized with double mammonia pneumonia. Jesus. Yeah, neither leads thought the movie would be anything special, and we're blown away when it became a success budget of thirty five million dollars, making seventy million at the box office, released on Christmas Day in nineteen ninety three. Mind you, wow, I mean that's decent. Went against Schindler's list Jurassic Park and Batman, Mask of the Phantasm. I think it ended up in spot four.

1:22:24 Wow. Yeah, So neither leads thought the movie be a success ends up being a huge success. We already said that Martin and Lewis were strong and considered for the roles, but declined due to Martin's frail health. Meredith was portraying, like I said, ninety four years old and he was eighty five, only seventeen youngest than Jack lemon Is older. Yeah, this was the comeback movie for the due who hadn't worked together in over a decade, and once again, Mathow originally turned down the role due to the script and only agreed to participate when his son Charles convinced him. He was known to do that a lot because he was either just wanting to payoff gambling debts or have money to gamble with, so he would not necessarily decide on all screenplays, but he would have that people convince him a lot. Wait, if he had gambling debt, then why was he hard to convince Because he didn't even if the scripts weren't good, he still wouldn't want to do it.

1:23:08 It would somebody that would have to take him to be aside and be like that didn't make any sense. Somebody would have to take even if the scripts were good. Even if the scripts were good, Yeah, he would still be curmudget about it. And they would be like, well, if you want to do this, you're gonna have to work. So he was just hesitant to work a lot, which is why the last gonna do what if gamble if you want to do is own okay and everything, But yeah, that is grumpy old Men nineteen ninety three. It is one. Like I said, you can't find it super easy right now, but there's a great and cheap little double blu ray pack you can get. Yeah, that's where I really do think this is one to own. Yeah, and uh, we always like to end the show with the recommendation, I'm gonna go with an odd one, but I think it. I think it works. I'm gonna go with Enemy Mine from nineteen eighty five because it's two enemies coming together to become friends. Mind, Yes, that is that is my recommendation.

1:23:53 I mean I love Enemy Behind interesting two enemies becoming friends. I think that the point of the movie is they were always friends, they just weren't admitting it. But at the same time, I like I like when enemies work, when two enemies become friends and have to work together to solve their own problem. That's not exactly what happens in The Old Men. They find their friendship and they find out you find their friendship with each other once. I mean Enemy Mind's a little bit more complicated than that in every conceivable way. Can you make a suggestion? Oh gosh, I you know, I actually hadn't thought of one ahead of time, but if I well, if you know, I but I do have a few. I think if you want a great film about getting older, I think Nebraska would be a phenomenal one.

1:24:40 It is not. It doesn't have quite the buddy element, although it's a father and son which I really like, really much of a comedy, but it's got something. Oh, it's very funny. It's got some funny stuff. No, it's very funny. No, it's a dark comedy. I'm not saying like you're gonna laugh at no, but it's it's a very dark comedy. But are you kidding me? Like the Two Fat Twins, Like, there's a lot of I said, there's comedy. I said, it just doesn't have a lot. But it also has been while since I've seen it, so I probably know Nebraska's you just see this is just Dave. It's black and white, so Dave's like it's sad, right, And it was made in nineteen twenty seven by Adolf Hitler. I like, I watch more black and white movies than you do. You don't know that, oh I do. I just don't see Race. I broke nothing. I broke him. No. But so I would say Nebraska, or if you want to go a little bit more uh cliched, you could go about Schmidt.

1:25:28 Yeah. And I mean, of course there is Grumpy or Old Men. The sequels just as good. If obviously a sequel. Yeah, but yeah, that's it's a classic. It's it's so good, it's so funny. One for the whole family. Like, I really this. Like I said, they played this on cable all the time, and my whole family would sit down and watch it. Yeah. I feel like most of the stuff that you don't want your kids to hear, they won't understand watching it. So I think this is a good one for everybody to enjoy. And I couldn't ever recommend it enough. It put me, I'm I have every reason to be in a very bad mood. It put me in a pretty decent mood. I love this flick. No, It's super good, super heartfelt, and highly recommended. Gruppy Old Man nineteen ninety three. Make sure you check it out. So before we get out of here, double DM.

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