Final Destination (2000) The Fear of Fate – A Tribute to Tony Todd

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0:41 Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denyer. Spoiler alert. That makes me a little sad. Why is that? Well? You just pointed out that the gentleman who played Bob in the new Thunderbolts Marvel movie is Bill Pullman's son. Correct, that's awesome, But I'm I'm starting to get annoyed because so many actors that are like making a big splash right now are NEPO babies.

1:28 This is a bad time to mention that. Why Russell Kurt Russell Sun was Captain America? I knew that, Okay, making sure, but that's my point, but not just in that, Like, think about for a second the substance got nominated for an Oscar. That actress is what's her name's daughter? Oh? Are you talking about a Whaley? Uh? What's her last name? Why can't I think of her name? Don't know? Maybe you don't like women? Shut up? That's not it. Oh so that doesn't have any effect on it. My god, stop it. You're gonna make me lose it. What is her fuck name? You have a computer? I wanted to look at it because I'm very ashamed because normally I know that name. Margaret Quality. Yeah.

2:08 Quality. Yeah. I mean she's a NEPO baby yep. And you know, saying NEPO baby is a little harsh except that, I mean they are, like a lot of these actors are literally direct children of movie stars, and you know, having that access to show business is a big advantage. No, I mean absolutely is. But at the same time, I will say that at least they're giving good performances. I will, I will give that credit. I mean, yeah, the NEPO baby thing is is definitely a topic that is hot, right. I feel like it hasn't come up a lot lately. Like I didn't even know Margaret Qually that her mother was.

2:48 I'm trying to remember her mother's name. I mean, I know where because she was in Scrooged and a bunch of stuff. Oh oh wait, or no, am I wrong? I say, are you no? I think I'm wrong? Okay, no, no, Yeah. Andy McDowell McDowell. Okay, okay, Andy McDowell was her mom. Yeah, took me a second to remember. And also, Andy mcdoll's not unscrewed. You're thinking that's Karen Allen. You're thinking of groundhog Day. No, you're totally right. No, I was totally I was envisioning groundhog Day. Yeah, like entire like I was totally off on that one, but I'm not. It just bummed me out because you everybody was so excited about like, oh man, and then they were so mad that, you know, the substance didn't win, you know, didn't win it. No, it is pretty good.

3:30 But what all I'm saying is, but then it was like, but she's like the daughter of Hollywood people. Yeah, like majorly. You know, when I wanted to break into being a director in major movies, you know, nobody was like, well, hey, his dad served at the Northeastern Correction Facility, let's get him on on a set. But sorry, will report that Mikey Madison is not a neo. Baby, I know, no, no, and and and that's not curious. Oh sure, well and that's not because my point isn't that there's nothing but nepo baby. Yeah, my point is that I'm surprised how many are like jad jack Quaid, who's in everything out and and that doesn't mean he's not great, but you know, But also then it's like, is this just an argument for eugenics? Yeah, Dave's like, where are you going with this? But no, no, like I don't. It's hard because it's not like I don't enjoy their performances, but there is a part of me that's like, your parents literally have such a massive foot in the door in this business. So it is a little hard sometimes to realize, like, oh, like the big indie you know, movie that everybody was rooting for was gonna like overturn the system. It's like they cast literally a famous person's kit.

4:41 But then I guess my question would be, do you feel the same way on that track if like, for instance, Joe Hill, who submitted his work as Joe Hill, didn't tell anybody he was King's son until he was as signed author. Well that's I mean, first of all, I'm sure that probably still helped. Yeah somewhat. I'm sure he had contacts and stuff from that. Yeah, it I think it's a a little different when you're writer a writer, maybe I mean, because when you're an actor, it's all about like your look and stuff like that. I think it would be less likely that Joe Hill's writing would heavily immediately remind people of Stephen King's writing compared to like, if they were actors, they'd be like, you remind me of somebody who was really good, you know, assuming that Stephen King were a good actor, which he's not.

5:21 Oh no, I love you know, throughout my childhood those moments where I go, hey, that's Stephen King. What's his line in Creep Show two? When you get it? When he the hitchhiker segment when he gets out of the. Guy got creamed lady or guy got cream man happens all the time? What happened to her? Guy got cream happens all the time? And he lights up a road flare. No, but it just it's just something that I've been thinking about, especially since Stranger Things when Ethan Hawk and Uma Thurman's daughter, who I feel bad I'm not remembering her name off the top of Mayahawk, Yeah Maya, yeah, yeah, Mayahawk. I felt back because when I found out she was literally daughter of two famous actors, I was like, man, you know and and it's funny because you know, they used to make fun of b movie makers when they would cast you know, Bruce Springsteen's sister or you know, the esteve as nobody seems to know. But you know, in this case, like I never once heard mention of of Margaret Qually's mother. Oh yeah, Like I had never heard a word about that.

6:27 I think I only found out via an interview that she was talking about and her mom did get brought. Up well, and apparently Rainy Qually, her sister, is also an actress. I think she's a bit younger is she's born in nineteen ninety, so I think she's actually a little older. But oh yeah, yeah, she's been in a ton of stuff. But like, yeah, it's just I don't know, I don't know what I didn't have, like a point I was trying to brilliantly make about that. Yeah, but sometimes I do kind of go like wow, and I'm shocked. I'm just shocked. I don't hear more people talking about that. I feel like it was a hot topic there for a bit, like I because I feel like it was everybody had input on it that had kids in Hollywood, especially because like even Jamie Lee Curtis was like writing about NEPO babies at one point, because I mean she is one obviously, sure of course, so but.

7:11 Yeah, and I think having the longevity of like a Jamie Lee Curtis is evidence of her talent. And also I want to say, it does not mean they're not talented. No, absolutely no, they just had a very very strong advantage. Yeah, very much. Yeah, but it's it's just an odd thing to think about, it is. But I mean, at the same time, I cannot put down the fact that, like, like I said that, that they're giving great performances, especially Lewis Pullman and Thunderbolts. I mean that performance really tugged my heart strings for a good bit. Sure, No, I agree, It's just yeah, it's just something that kind of pops into my head every now, and this is I'm like watching it, I'm like, oh wow, Like everything I'm watching is like two or three main characters are a famous person's kit.

7:55 Well smile too, yeah, Jack Nicholson's son. And that was not hard to figure out. No, well, I mean it was very on the nose casting. Yeah. So, and that doesn't mean that they're not going to be good or that they don't deserve it. It's just kind of like I remember when everybody was talking about Sydney Sweeney's family because you know, they're all normal Americans is a good way to put it. They're they're they're just not you know, California type people. Yeah, and she was just kind of like, well, I have to send money home, unlike a lot of the people that I got my start with in show business, whose families were financing their entire careers. Yeah, and getting them all the connections at the same time. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know, because like at the same time, like I I loved the performances of like Mayahawk's a phenomenal actress. Yeah, So I don't know.

8:41 Well, I mean there is also the argument to be made that is it too much of a power to have that influence, because like one of the biggest ones I can think of is how everybody was shitting on Trap because they basically said that Shyamalan had given his daughter her own concert movie. I mean he did, yeah, but if you I mean yeah, but I will say no, no, no, Well, I mean when you get cast when your dad's the director, that's a whole other, whole thing. Yeah, that's that's just your dad wants to cast his kid. I don't that I see. I find that fine. It's more just the idea, like you could get a lot of meetings in Hollywood when when you have a parent tied into it. And that doesn't mean they shouldn't. I mean, we wouldn't have Bill and Ted's excellent Adventures if it wasn't for a degree of nepotism. Although from what I remember hearing, oh gosh, Alex Wonder or no, no, no, the guys who developed one of them was are you gonna kill me? Now? I'm having a little off day. I'm having a little yeah, a little off day concentration wise. Chris Matheson is is the you know, the famous writer, Uh, Richard Matheson. That's his That's that's his dad, is Richard Matheson, who wrote a ton.

9:57 Episodes. Yeah, I mean Matheson is a big name. But what from what I recall, when he wrote the stuff for Bill and Ted, his dad sent it to like all his friends and they all were just like, uh, we got nothing for this. Yeah, so you know, it doesn't mean it'll guarantee to help you I forgot. That Matheson wrote Goofy movie. Mm hmm, forgot about that. Yeah. Well, and and that's the other thing is a lot of people don't realize Chris Matheson is Richard Matheson's kid. Yeah, so I don't know. Uh oh, rapture palooza. Also, he also wrote Mom and Dad Saved the World. I just saw that, yeah, which I've I've been wanting to revisit that, but it's been a good bit. That was. That was when I saw on TV. I don't even think I've ever seen an uncut I. Mean I saw it on on like HBO. Yeah, no, I love Mom and Dad Saved the World. That's one that will forever have a hot a soft spot in my heart because it was on HBO and Cinemax so much. Yeah, I saw it so many times.

10:48 Well, I uh, it's funny with with Thunderbolts in particular having having the Nepa babies and whatnot. Because like I've been I've been thinking about what is that movie called? Oh my god, now I'm gonna blank on it. Oh man, this is embarrassing. If you give me a general idea, I'll try and find it. I'd say it is. It might just be gone. I can picture face. I talked about it when we were the flat Liners Flatliners like Julia Roberts and whatnot is isn't she a nipple baby? And whatnot? And and Sutherland is of course, and I'm Bacon is bacon one. I don't think. I don't think Bacony. I don't think he would have started in Friday of the thirteenth if yeah, that's fair actually, but I could be wrong. I'll look into it, but I'm pretty sure now.

11:31 But yeah, I feel like there was a lot of just there. There's always been NEPO baby movies, even if we didn't realize it. I mean matter. Juliet Roberts parents are Betty Lou Roberts and Walter Grady Roberts. Do you think to somebody else, I'm not sure that those are people in chow. For some reason, I thought flat Liners is a big Neppa baby movie. But now I'm if your southerl One's the only one I'm thinking of actually either way, and you know it well. And that's the other thing though, is like when when I was especially growing up, and to an extent, when you were growing up, it was a lot more common because the world was smaller. Yeah, you know, nowadays anybody anywhere can audition for anything. The pool of talent is much bigger, which means it's much more competitive. So when I see, you know, Nepo Babies in like a big indie movie that everybody's excited about, and I'm like, oh, they cast a famous person's kid, Okay, I mean I'm sure they're also talented. I mean I can't even think of an example where I've been like, why did they cast them?

12:28 It's just after the fact of like, hey, that's so and so. I'm sure there's a couple that I that we could think of. But yeah, I mean, if they're not coming to our head directly, I think it's not anything a big issue in that regard. Hey what you leave Frank Stallone alone? I mean I love his song that we actually had on the radio station. We had that pulled aside in the file. Actually kind of just like Frank Stallone. I mean, he's not the greatest actor, but I like his presence. He was on those those VH one talking heads a lot back in the day. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh well tell yeah, Well since the what what spark this conversation was we were talking about Thunderbolts because we just got back from seeing it in the theater. Yes we did. Oh, I mean I I thought I had seen trailers for what would you say, easily like four months?

13:13 Now, probably longer. Yeah, I wasna say, it's probably at least like half a year at this point. Yeah. Well, they it's easy to feel like it's hard to gauge how long you've been seeing trailers because they massively shifted the style and the mentality of the trailer. Yeah, about halfway through. Well, hell, that one trailer we saw was from the studio that brought you, and they weren't even saying Marvel. It was And they were like and from the set decorator from Hereditarian And I was like, oh, okay, I mean not lying, I was. I mean, I still I don't. I think I speak for a lot of people when it's just like we are. We are burned out on Marvel and have been for some time, but some of us may or may not have still been attempting to watch some of them. I can't tell you the last one I saw in theaters at this point.

13:53 Didn't you see Deadpool? No? I didn't see Deadpol three. I waited. I waited until that came. You didn't see Deadpool Versus or Wolverine or whatever. I tried to it was sold out because I went to go see it the same day I saw Cuckoo and Last star Fighter for the first time, but that was Matt and a week and naturally, well, dead Deadpool Versus Wolverine was sold out. So yeah, I missed it in theaters. I saw the first two in theaters, but yeah, I think the last one I saw in theaters might have been Quantum Mania. No, No, it's way too a man. You weren't there for that one. That was you were sick. That was when Matt was buying tickets for us. Oh really, Oh we've seen stuff past past. Yeah, it better not be eternals.

14:36 I'm checking the release listing if I can, because now I'm now you got me curious about when the last. Time we went, because I mean, it wasn't No Way Home. No, why what is this? I'm blanking like. Well, I know we saw Guardians Guardians three three, yeah, and I feel like there's something after that. That's what I'm trying to figure out. But it's not giving me a timeline. Yeah, I'm on the Marvel Studio Wikipedia and I can't seem to find it. But yeah, I mean I was. I was not against seeing this. It was just like I may see it or I may not. And I mean even you and I have been talking about for the last like couple of weeks that we've seen the trailers that just like you know what, wondering what it's gonna do and whatnot. I did not expect to go into this movie coming out liking it so much as I did.

15:19 As I did, it was super fun. It was super fun, and it feels like that return to formula simplifying everything in a. Sense, Homie. Guardians three was the last one we saw. Wow, Because there was Guardians three. Yeah, then there was The Marbles, Marvels, yep, then Deadpool and Wouverine, then Captain America Brave New World, and then Thunderbolts. Wow. So May twenty three Wow. So two years. Yeah, so it's been two years. I didn't think it was that long. I didn't either, but at the same time, it kind of makes sense. But I mean, I will say too that I also really did like Black Widow. Thought it was a good, like shoot them up action movie. Didn't really didn't really play on Marvel aspect to me that much. It was more so just a good action movie. So I mean the fact that we brought some of those characters back for this movie, I was on board with that already, and I like Bucky, so that whole premise of it. I was just like, this could be fun. But yeah, I give this movie props for simplifying things, going back to a simple formula of here's your new heroes, here's the villain, and that was basically it for the most part.

16:19 Well, they waited to give you a villain until late in the film. Half hour left of the movie basically. But I enjoyed it. Yeah, I was. I was really hoping it would be a fun time because I, you know, obviously had not seen a Marvel movie in quite a while. Yeah, and yeah, I mean I I pretty much after the Eternals. I don't think I saw another one until Guardians except for me the Spider Man, yeah one or whatever. Yeah, but but yeah, it just kind of it didn't do a lot of favors, no, so I yeah, I kind of checked out for a bit, but this one was a lot of fun. Yeah, I was hoping it would be at least funny, you know, keep that sense of humor going. I had a lot of good laughs. Yeah, And I it was refreshing to although it was kind of a threat to the whole world, it wasn't played up that way that way and it could have been there.

17:11 And I think that they also kept the kept the breakout small even with it with just being on the city, but monumental enough to be to see that threat. So I mean we kind of saw where it was going, but at the same time, they kept it on that island well. And I remember when when the first of the newer Spider Man movies came out, the ones with Tom Holland, yep, I remember being so refreshed by that only New York City was going to like, was the only place a threat and it wasn't the whole world. Yet again, Homecoming is still so much fun. All those movies, all those Tom Holland and Spider Man's are excellent, super fun. So it was cool to see. It makes me kind of want to see what they do next, which I now that I realized I took over two year break, that makes sense. Yeah, I didn't.

17:55 I really had no idea to been that well. Mine, They wiped the slate at one point for just Deadpool and Thunderbolts, like that was basically the I mean, Brave New World was on there too, but that was still finishing out a timeline or continuing a current. When I can't remember this. That's I believe that's that's the beginning of phase five. Yeah. So I mean, yeah, the fact that like we are getting a new Avengers supposedly, and it looks fun to this extent, like I am back on board with with at least this first movie. Yeah, and I hope they can keep this going. Yeah. I hope so too, because I used to really look forward to them. I mean there was, man that that lead up, the entirely ten year lead up to Endgame was an incredible time to be a movie lover. I remember being in Suncoast when I was working in Avengers came out. First off, our manager put all our copies in the safe because she was so worried about them getting stolen because like we got them like two weeks for the release or whatnot.

18:46 That would be a big deal if they got stolen there. Yeah, so there was that. But then also I watched that movie so much because of being at work, and that was like all we played naturally when it came out. So when I actually finally got to sit down and watch it as an actual movie and not just in the background of me working, I'd already seen it like easily twenty times. That's a good one to be forced on you, though, because it's very quotable. It's got a lot of good moments. Do they ever tell you the story of how I saw the first Avengers? I remember, yeah, when it was Jeff, wasn't it. Yeah, But my cousin Jeff, who at the time was working in another state. He and I are huge movie fans, and he was like, dude, you've got to see Avengers. And I was like, I don't like superhero movies. I hadn't seen a single Marvel movie up until that point, except maybe I might have seen Iron Man. And he was like, dude, you don't understand. It's not like that.

19:38 It's great, and I was like ah, And then he literally was like, I will PayPal you the price of a ticket if you'll go see it right as soon as you can. That's what I remember. And this was right when I first moved back around that maybe at first two years I was back in Ohio, so I literally paypaled me because I was broke. I think I hadn't even gotten a job. So it was probably the first like eight months I was here. It was really hard to find a job. Yeah, it would have been like twenty twelve, yeah, for eleven twelve, yeah. I think it was eleven. Yeah, And I literally he just sent me the money. So I literally walked into my car and I went straight to the theater and I saw it on Saturday by myself and walked out and I was like, goddamn, that was awesome. So he was right. He was right, And then from then on I was trying to catch as many of them as I could.

20:18 I mean, there's no denying that the first like ten fifteen movies in the in phase phase one. I don't even know how long Phase one is at this point. Well, I think we went up to Phase three. Was the end was an endgame, I think. Because I really love the Iron Man movies, really really like the Hulk of the Incredible Hulk movie that they did, but they wouldn't even know that. I know that wasn't included. But like the early ones that they did, I still enjoyed it. Even going back and looking at Angley's Hulk, Angley's Hulk has. A lot to like. I would agree with that. Yeah. So I mean, I'm I'm anxious to see where they go with this. I think Julia Louise Dreyfus is amazing in this movie. Amazing, very interesting as a quasi villain. Yeah, very interesting.

21:00 I mean in the best way. She's very good. Yeah, and it was cool seeing her. You don't really see her be a villain very much, No, you don't. And I imagine if she ever has played a villain, it was probably cartoony. This was not cartoony. No, I mean cartoony. Also David Harbor having a blast in this movie as well, who's having a great year. I mean, you know, I'm sure that anytime he thinks about how that one hell Boy movie does, he just gets into his swimming uv on water. Now. So it's not Hellboy's not a bad his his version of Hellboy's not a bad movie. It's just not a good movie. It's it's fun and it's really really gory and really like has some pretty uh heinous moments, like revealing a Babba yaga that has eaten children. Pretty pretty heinous moment in that movie.

21:47 Well, I mean he is a boy of hell. Yes, he is a boy of Hell. So but yeah, I enjoyed it. I've seen it one time and I don't know if I'll ever see it again. But it's fun. Yeah, heard Dave first hates it. Selling point, even though I have it at my voodoo forever, because that was the days of Black Friday and getting those movies for like five dollars that still had the codes in them. You have it until the heat death of the universe, yeah, in which case this point, Yeah. That also means you know, now we have Extreme Justice and HD until they possibly give us a disc release. I mean, you never know. Now, there's so many things coming out that you would never think LD coming out on. Dis Dangerous Touch Extreme Justice. That would be a beautiful, glorious double feature. It really would be, and it would make my birthday.

22:31 Yeah, so there we go. I should just uh should text Ryan over a terror vision and be like, you know, September's coming right up, and I know that's not enough time to get this done, but please. Yeah, he would be the one to do it, wouldn't he. H. I mean, he'd be one. Well, I think Lionsgate put out Extreme Justice recently. I want to say, yeah, but they're they're just barely keeping Vestron alive. So that's true. True. I don't know they did just Sonnow it's May, and I'm pretty excited about that. Oh they're putting oh yeah on Vestron restaurant. Yeah, so I mean no, I mean, I don't know if well that could kind of fit. I don't know, see what happens. But at the end of the day, what we're really talking about is the fact that you can't fight fate, whether it's the fate of the universe, yeah, or the fate of physical media. Yes, But tonight we're talking about a movie all about fighting fate.

23:25 That we are, That we are, Yes, we have are continuing May they Rest in Peace month tonight as we are going to be paying tribute to the late great Tony Todd who left us last year and talking about Final Destination from two thousand. And while Todd's part and it is somewhat small, yeah, very memorable, Yes, very memorable. When I was rewatching it, it had been a long time, probably five seven, eight years, yeah, and I was just like, damn, Tony Todd. In the movie for maybe four to five minutes max, and then he makes an appearance in the next one. I think he came back in one, two, three, and then I think he came back in five. I don't think he's in four. I'll review it in is a filmographing here in a bit? But yeah. Final listenation from two thousand one hour in thirty eight minutes. Rated R for violence and terror and for language Terror terror, terror not the terror. Oh well, I mean all this movie is missing is Dick Miller coming out and explaining the entire movie at the end.

24:25 I mean, that's kind of what the last scene of Final Destination is as much as I do, the kind of just there like anyway in case you didn't get it. But uh, but and there is language, both English and French and. French indeed, yes, I interview. Synopsis for this says, after getting a premonition about a plane crash on his school trip, Alex, a student, saves a few of his classmates. However, the situation gets complicated when death starts chasing them. Makes me think of just like a grim reefer with a sithe though. But back here, guys, come on. My synopsis says when a premonition of a plane crash saved. The saves the lives of Alex and five classmates, all of them begin to question if destiny can be changed. As the survivors begin to meet grizzly demises one by one.

25:08 I feel like the PAM mean they're the same pictures. I mean they're both they both serve a good purpose. Yeah, you did good? All right? Well, are you ready to get into the taglines? Because, oh boy, this week we got some tagline. Apparently this film is just maggotty with maggotty starting with most people have dreams for Alex. This is real. I mean that applies to the first section of the film, So I guess that works. Face your deepest fears before they face you. I don't like that one because it's not fear coming for you. It's death itself. It's destiny. Death is the final destination. Boarding starts now. I have to a half point deduction for using the title of the film in your tagline.

26:01 In the best twisted tradition of the Twilight Zone. That must have been like on home video. That must have been like on the VHS tape. A film that decapitates scream three. Ok okay, I'd like to know the source of some of these. On March seventeenth, figure out when it's coming back at them. Wow, invention or intervention comes at a price. I mean that makes sense, But what Jesus? No accidents, no coincidences, no escapes. You can't cheat death. No escapes? Yeah, no escapes?

26:42 What the hell is going on with these taglines? Death doesn't take no for an answer. I like that one. That's a good one. That's a solid one. Can you cheat death? That one's pretty good too. Death is coming. I mean, to your little townshriff. That one's fine. I'll see you soon. What next stop? It's you that one? I kind of like his Final Destination? So next stop? Okay, that one's all right. And finally, are you ready to match wits with the Grim Reaper or are you ready for Fox DVD video?

27:29 I will say they go downhill quick quick quick quick wow. Wow wow. Out of fourteen, we have about two, maybe one and a half. It's a winner. I mean, you know, uh, there were a couple okay ones toward the end. It's just a few of them. I'm just like, what, so Final Destination currently available to stream on Max You can also rent it or buy it through Prime, Fandango or anyway you get your videos at. There's also a currently I think it's on sale for I want to say, like twelve bucks. There's a four film Blu ray pack, and they also just release the entire collection too, but the four pack is on sale right now. Nice No and I it's a great addition to any horror fans collection. It is absolutely director and writer. One of the writers on the film is James Wong. He directs The Final Destination in two thousand, which he also has a screenplay credit on The One with Jet Lee in two thousand and one, which he also is the writer on Final Destination three in two thousand and six. He also writes and directs Dragonball Evolution two thousand and nine, Tower Prep, The Event, X Files twenty eighteen. He's a writer on as well as directs, and most recently Nine to eleven or Excuse Me nine one one in twenty twenty one.

28:35 He writes and directs on as well. Other things that he's written or has writing credits on include The Boys next Door from nineteen eighty five, So Charlie Sheen, serial killer thriller Nice uncredited on Trigger Treat nineteen eighty six, Wow Yeah, night Watch nineteen eighty eight. Also writes on Booker in nineteen ninety, twenty one, Jump, street Wise Guy, The Commission, Space Above and Beyond, Millennium, The Lone Gunman, The Event, Rosemary's Baby, Make in twenty fourteen, and American Horror Story in twenty nineteen. It did like Space Above and Beyond. That's the one I haven't heard from. A long time writer. Also on is Glenn Morgan, who also gets credited on Boys next Door, uncredited on Trigger Treat, Nightwatch, Booker, same thing basically, but where mister Glenn Morgan differs, and you probably know this is In two thousand and three, he writes and directs the remake for Willard, Oh Yeah, Black exmus writer director in two thousand and six, Yes, By No Way, Okay, The Event twenty eleven, The River, Those Who Kill. He's a developer on Intruders, He's developer on Rosemary's Baby in twenty fourteen, Lore in twenty seventeen, writes on The X Files in twenty eighteen, American Horror Story twenty nineteen, Twilight Zone, and most recently, Almost Paradise in twenty twenty three, and our last writer is Jeffrey Reddick.

29:48 On the film. He gets writing credit for the screenplay a Final Destination in two thousand, but in two thousand and one he crafts Returned to Cabin by the Lake. Hey, now we're cooking. I those movies, they're so I guess they're underrated at this point. Yeah. I don't hear a lot about them. Don't let anybody say I don't like them. They were on Lifetime, they were on Sci Fi, they were on USA back in the day, and they got basically left on DVD and have not seen a release. So you can find him on YouTube so you can watch them. But if you have not seen Cabin by the Laker, return to Cabin, like with Judd Nelson, really really fun directive direct to TV movies. I wouldn't be surprised if part of the problem is there's no film cut, there's no film print rather, so you'd have to re edit them entirely, which can slow things down.

30:35 Ryan about those, Actually, I didn't think about that. So. Jeffrey Reddick also is a story credit on Final Destination two Tamara in two thousand and five, Final Destination three in two thousand and six, The Day of the Dead remake Ina. He gets screenplay credit on the Final Destination. He gets character credit on Final Destination five character credit Goods samerited in twenty fourteen, The Final Wish in twenty eighteen, Midnight Texts in twenty eighteen, Don't Look Back twenty twenty, A Tale of Dark and Grim tent twenty one, and most recently, character credit on Final Destination, blood Lines twenty twenty five. Yeah, which comes out really soon. Yeah comes out this week this week. I don't know what the fight. Don't know what that was. That was a little worriesome. A cinematographer on the film is Robert McLachlan. He gets to start direct as director of photography on Abducted in nineteen eighty six, Calgary eighty eight, Eighteen Days of Glory at eighty nine, Neon Ryder, The Beach Coms in eighty eight, Mcguiver in ninety one, The Odyssey in ninety two, Commission ninety three, Win The val Breaks in ninety five, Strange Luck in ninety six, Millennium Final Destination in two thousand.

31:34 He also shoots the High Noon remake in two thousand, The Lone Gunman, The One Which at Lee in two thousand and one, Willard in two thousand and three, Tarzan in two thousand and three, True Calling, Cursed King's Ransom, a little Thing called Murder, Final Destination three, Black Eximss in two thousand and six. He also shoots Nice Bionic Woman in two thousand and seven, Dragon Ball Evolution, Harper's Island in two thousand and nine, The Boy Who Cried Werewolf twenty ten, Human Target, The Secret Circle, West World Series, Game of Thrones, The Affair, Ray Donovan, Batwoman, Love Lovecraft, Country Shining Girls, American Jigglo series nineteen twenty three, Shot Yellowstone in twenty twenty four, and most recently Landman in twenty twenty four as well. Yeah, he got into that TV pipeline and it's smart.

32:15 I mean where that's where you'll make a lot of money as a director of photography. Yeah, no, kidding, Yeah, he It's clear his trajectory once the two thousand started, he just kept going up and up and up and up. I love the fact that he stayed with his writing partners though, too, and shot their stuff, which is really cool. That is cool. I like that cast includes Devin Sawa, who plays Alex Browning in the film. He gets a Start in nineteen eighty nine and unsub then goes on to do Sherlock Holmes return to ninety three NERF Commercials, Various Ones in ninety three, Over That The Odyssey in ninety two, Little Giants, previous episode in ninety four, Yes, Casper in ninety five, Now and then Knight of the Twisters, The Boys Club, Wild America, SLC Punk, Idol Hands Final Destination in two thousand, then goes on to be in the Guilty the Stand music video by eminem in two thousand, Slackers Extream Ops, Spider Man series in two thousand and three, Extreme Dating in two thousand and four, whoa Devil's Den in two thousand and six, Ncis Los Angeles, Endured The Philly Kid Nikita in twenty thirteen, A Warden's Ransom, Exorcism of Molly Hartley, Life on the Line, Broad Squad, Punk's Dead, sc Punk two in twenty sixteen, Hawaii five Oh, Escape Plan, The Astractors, and then in twenty nineteen, alongside alongside the directing of Fred Durst, he stars in the Fanatico.

33:31 I Forgot he was in that Yeah Yeah, not a terrible movie. That one bad t both does fun in it, Oh for sure. Yeah, jar Head, Law of Return in twenty nineteen, mc Guiver twenty twenty, Black Friday, twenty twenty one, Magnum p I Hacks Chucky series, Murder in a Small Town, and most recently this year was in twenty twenty five's Hard Eyes. Yes he was. He was very well executed in that. Yeah, spoilers, that's good. That's a good Oh yeah, uh, spoiler alerts. Some people die in Hard Eyes. You what the best part about that is it doesn't really spoil any No, it doesn't because is he the killer? Is he not? Well, you don't know. Ali Larder, who plays Clear Rivers in this gets Her started in nineteen ninety six on Suddenly Susan, Chicago's Suns in ninety seven, Chicago Hope, Just Shoot Me, Dawson's Creek in ninety eight, Varsity Blues ninety nine, Drive Me Crazy House in Haunted Hill Final destination in two thousand, Legally Blonde, American Outlaws, Jane Silent Bob strike Back Final Destination two. In two thousand and three, Three Way Entourage A Lot Like Love, Confess Resident Evil Extinction in two thousand and seven, Obsessed Heroes, Resident Evil, Afterlife, The League, Love Sick, You're Not You in twenty fourteen, Legends, Residentevil, The Final Chapter, Curb Your Enthusiasm, The Rookie Creepshow TV series in twenty nineteen, oh Ye Last Victim in twenty twenty one, The Man with the White Van in twenty twenty three, Spin the Bottle in twenty twenty four, and also recently in twenty twenty four, Landman, Hot, Damn Yeah, Curse. Smith, also playing Carter Horton in this film, gets his start in ninety seven as Ad The World Turns, Bait Watch in ninety eight, Hit and Runway, The Broken Hearts Club, The Final Destination in two thousand, CSI in two thousand,

35:02 The First Saken in two thousand and one, The knockoff Vampire Movie That Wanted to Be Lost? Boys. Do you remember that? I Remember that? Yeah? With Jonathan Shake The Outer Limits of two thousand and one, Pressure two thousand and two, Critical Assembly, Dawson's Creek, Cruel Intentions three in two thousand and four, Charmed CSI, Miami, The Closer, Justice CSI New York, My Bloody Valentine three D in two thousand and nine, Eli Stone, The Forgotten Life, Unexpected ncis where Hope grows, Criminal Minds Stalker, Agents of Shield Doubt in twenty seventeen, The Fosters n cis La Into the Dark Pilgrim in twenty eighteen. He's the Dad, Yes he is, Yes he is Riverdale in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one he was also on the Resident and bringing up our cast conclusion. Naturally the man we are paying tribute tonight, the Great Tony Todd, who plays William Bludworth in the film, Yes, two hundred and fifty one credits on his resume. Not surprised at all, I'm sure.

35:58 No, not at all. Gets his start in nineteen eighty six on Sleepwalk and then goes on to be in Platoon the same year, and I mean Terry Territory in eighty seven, twenty one, Jump Street, eighty seven, Colors, Lean On Me, Criminal Justice, Night a Living Dead ninety, Cop Rock, Candy Man in ninety two, then goes on to do Excessive Force in ninety three. Do you think do you think it was Night ninety that got him kind of pushed into the being a leading man? Or do you or do you think this Candy Man. I mean, obviously they both had an effect. They're closed, and I'm wondering, like, did that get him Candy Man. I feel like he has a very strong presence in ninety obviously, yeah, And I think it probably took attention to that. And I mean that nineties probably got him Candy Man.

36:40 I would That's what I mean. It's just like, because obviously candy Man is what like rocketed him to, at the very least in the realm of horror movie fans, being a superstar. Well, but then I would hope that excessive force got him The Crow in ninety four. Oh, of course it did. Well. It was no force on force successive Force two. It was not you know, it was not the Crow in ninety four, Candy Man. Farewell to the Flesh in ninety five, which I think is a really really good movie and does not get enough credit as a sequel. For one, maybe that should be your birthday, I mean, I like it that much. I don't know about that. I mean, we canna do Day of the Dead three Star trek DS nine and ninety six, The Rock in ninety six, NYPD Blue Wish Master Star trek Voyager. We also have a Candy Man Day of the Dead ninety nine.

37:22 Then he does Final Destination, appears on Angel Smallville Charmed Final Destination two, the Prophecy Forsaken, Final Destination three Hatchet, which is one of my favorite roles because him is the is the voodoo host of the Walking Tour, telling that scary story and being like and then they slipped and cracked their head on my goddamn curb and sued me to Kingdom. Come. No, he's so good that you don't get to see him, get to just kind of go off very often. No, but when he does, he's so much he's incredible. Have you heard the stories about how he does takes? So I had heard from some filmmaker who directed him that if you don't give him any specific ideline, like if you say, let's let's do one more and see how it goes. You know, if you don't say one more this time this, if you just said one more, let's go, he'll never do it the same way. He'll assume you want something different, so he'll do it. So if you roll on him seven times without saying anything.

38:17 You get seven different performances. I mean He'll go from like whispering almost the whole thing, to like moving a lot, to not moving at all, to like very serious. They said, It's a really interesting way that he works because his thing is he's trying to just kind of find what you like, Yeah, I mean, which is an actor's. That's one thing that as I was reviewing his resume that I picked up on to you that I was just like, wow, he does have different I mean an actor obviously, but he has different stages of Tony Todd. Like It's just like, I mean, he can be that over the top Tony Todd, he can be the subdued candy man Tony Todd, oh. Yeah, and he can also subtlety really well with that deep voice he's got. And he can also be freaking hilarious like he is in Holliston. Oh no, I'm Holliston allowed a lot of those guys to really show off how funny they were, and I think it benefited Tony Todd and and and Kane Hotter.

39:03 But Kane Hodder didn't do a lot of stuntman. And nearly Mears Derek Muirs got to shine old. Oh yeah, But I mean. Derek Mears was a improv guy. So, I mean he had people even though not a lot. Yeah, people had seen it, but Tony Todd, we never got to see him be that outrageously funny. I mean, he's truly hilarious. And while I've never like had dinner with the man, I had seen him at many conventions, at many shows, and he was always making people laugh. Yeah, very very funny guy. I did get to meet him one time. It's been probably a little over a decade, maybe right about a decade. He was at Scarefest one, so I got got to meet him. That's awesome, very nice guy. No, I don't know anybody that had a negative word to say about him even when he was with us.

39:46 Yeah. So he does Masters of Horror, Vallery on the Stairs in two thousand and five, The Man from Earth, Boston Legal, twenty four, Transformers, Revenge of the Fallen, The Graves, Hatch At two, Final, Destination five, and twenty eleven, Holliston in twenty twelve Sushi Girl, The Young and the Wrestler, which found out he has eighteen episodes like he was on eighteen episodes Young and the Restless as a character. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I mean he he people wanted to keep him wherever he went. That's why he was in Star Trek Deday's nine and Voyager. Yeah, because he was so well liked. Of course, then the example of being almost too well liked on DS nine would be would be Jeffrey Combes, who played ended up playing two recurring roles on DS nine two two Brunt and Wayun.

40:31 If you know d S nine you'll know, but literally two. Yeah. And even when I got the chance to work with him, we were talking about DS nine because once I mentioned that that was one of my favorite things he'd done, he was just like super excited to talk about it. But he mentioned that. At one point they were like, hey, we're gonna make Wayoun like a recurring thing. And he's like, oh, that's great. And then he got some pages and they were like you brought Brunt back and he was like yeah. He was like, but I played Brunt and he was like, well we yeah. He was like, so I'm two recurring roles this season and they were like, yeah, is that a problem. He's like, no, not at all. Does he get double the pay for two recording? I mean I would just well, I'm assuming you get paid for the day, so he's working twice as much for sure. Andy's in Yeah. I remember he was in both of those characters for at least four to six hours of makeup too.

41:15 Yeah, no shit, so. But uh and he was great now but yeah, Tony Todd, I remember when he popped up on DS nine because I was already a fan from the horror movies he had done and stuff. He plays an adult version of a of a of Jake Cisco, Captain Cisco's son, Yeah, telling recounting a thing that happened because they messed with Deep Space nine's time frames a lot, and he was amazing as the adult Jake Cisco. He was where you saw him first. Oh, it had to have been Night ninety. It had to have been, because Night ninety was I saw nine ninety like right when it came to tape. Mine might have been The Rock if not Candy Man, it was either. It's one of It's one of those two, because I remember him in The Rock. He is so freaking vicious in The Rock.

41:57 Now he's really good in The Rock. I just ninety had to have been it because I saw it so young, like super young. I saw ninety after I saw the original because Ghastly came to our town with Creep showed the original right around the time that text change all the beginning was coming out, because I remember that because that was one of the merch things that they had, was passing out T shirts for it. So yeah, he does young and the rest is in twenty thirteen, Victor Crowley in twenty seventeen talking about bringing him back. He's literally in a cell phone video in that movie. Death House in twenty seventeen, Riverdale Hellfest Scream TV series in twenty nineteen, Candy Corn Tails from the Hood three in twenty twenty. Which I mean, you want to make your little faces, but that was a big step up from from two two.

42:38 But what every time I think of three, what I always think of is the fact that the reveal that the little girl is telling these stories, and then the heinousness of one story in particular. Yeah. Yeah, all the stories are brutal and gruesome, and one has like very graphic sex and racism. So I just imagine this little girl going so anyway, he's on top of her, just pound inner and pound dinner, and I'm like, uh, how did this little okay? You know? Because then the worst part is it's like, well, no, that's not what happened. It's just he filled in the blankes. But oh so he's just fantasizing about sex will talking to which Oh that's fine, great, that's right y yeah wait wait, yeah, we're good, We're good. Yeah, that's good. Spoiler alert Candy Man twenty twenty one. Yes, which which honestly is such a good reveal and help that movie a lot for me personally.

43:20 The Flash in twenty twenty three, stream in twenty twenty four, and not his last performance, but what I'll credit him with because it's the last one on IMDb at this time. He has a by the way, twelve in production right now. Oh wow, yeah, so he's got he's got some stuff that's going to come out. Plus did you see the reason about Cutter's Island finally getting a release? His nineties horror film That Never Got Is is coming out now. Oh that's awesome. Yeah, that's excellent. But yeah, Final Destination Bloodlines twenty twenty five. He unfortunately passed November six, twenty twenty four, at age sixty nine, complications from a very subdued did not say much about it battle with cancer, which I believe he had been fighting for about a decade. I want to say, really, yeah, I remember seeing a video of him because there was a Tony Todd film festival and he couldn't attend, and he sent a video in and I remember seeing clips from that video and just knowing, you know, unfortunately his time was about up.

44:10 Well, it's just like, I mean, the same thing we're dealing with Reggie Banister right now. Yeah, I'm so sad, but. You're just keeping the keeping the vibe. I'm sorry, but yeah, Tony Todd, I mean, incredible body of work. Rest in peace. This is I mean so many movies here that I grew up with and influenced me for that matter. So what was your first time seeing Final Destination? Oh? Man, I mean rented it on tape because everyone was talking about it. It was everywhere, and got it. I probably at the Blockbuster near my house at the time. And I remember even knowing what that that you knew what the movie was roughly about. You knew that the plane, you know that they don't go on a plane that blows up. Yeah, but I remember the biggest shock when I watched it for the first time wasn't the plane exploded, like them all on it and the fireball or whatever, because you know, it just kind of it happens. It's freaky but whatever. Yeah, it was when they were standing in the terminal at the airport and they're all talking and then all of a sudden, the plane explodes in view. Yeah, and the shadow the window shadow that I remember sitting in my living room watching on VHS and going, uh yeah, like even though I knew something bad was because we knew that the whole point was something was going to happen, part of me didn't think it was going to happen then. Yeah, part of me was like, oh, well, it'll like are they gonna like get halfway home and then find out it exploded over the ocean or something. Nope, it barely makes it out of the airport. Yeah, which makes it so much more visceral and so much more memorable.

45:40 Well, and also spoilers it blows up earlier in his earlier than his premonition, because in the premonition they get up in the sky, there's turbulence and whatnot, and then all the shit happens. But yeah, my first time watching it was my sister had had a slumber party and so Mom let her go to Family Video or Hollywood Video and read whatever she wanted. And I distinctly remember most of the stack of if not all of it, which was Undercover, Brother, Fear dot com. Yeah, super Troopers, crazy, beautiful, and Final Destination. That is an evening right there. That's a whole mood. It really is, though, And I remember they had watched Super Troopers first, and I had peaked around the corner and seen some of that, and then they started finding Destination and naturally couldn't hang out with my sister. But also, like I was still into horror a little bit at this point. I don't know if I'd fully transitioned into it at this point, and so I was peeking around the corner and looking at the movie, and then you know, eventually had to stop peaking around the corner. And the next day my mom had taken her and her friends out, so it was just me at the house and I watched Follow Destination by myself while everybody was gone.

46:49 How'd that go? It scared the shit out of me. YEA. What became more prevalent to me as the movie went on was just, oh, everything can kill you, so like it just became really scary as a kid to just even exist in a house. It must be so weird growing up without severe crippling anxiety, right, Yeah, I was just like yep, yep, yep, yep as everything. But from that point on, uh, I mean, I didn't, you know, I was. I was eight years old when this movie came out. But from that point on I was a fan of these movies, even though it probably took me about another five or six years to finally see them. Like I remember sneaking out of my house to go with my friends to see the Final Destination at the midnight premiere back in the day.

47:33 Is that the one that was in three D? Three D? Yeah? Yeah, I didn't see it in three D, but I saw it at the drive in Oh, that's awesome, and that inspired me to go back and watch all of them again. Yeah, because I had watched that was was what was that? The fifth? One? Fourth, the fourth, the Final, the Final, The Final is the fourth and then Final List Nation five? Maybe it was five I saw in the drive regardless, I had fallen out at some point. I know I had seen Final Destination two for sure as I could. Cat was three in three D in the or did it come out in three D format? I'm not sure, man, because now I'm curious too because I remember the three D being huge on DVD because then you also had the option to change the scenes and whatnot, like it was to choose your own demise at that point. The Final Destination was in three D. I don't think three was.

48:14 It came out on three I think it came out in three D on disc or whatever, because that was the point of like My Bloody Valentine too. Probably it could be, could be, but yeah, from that point on, I was hooked. I even have a distinct memory of I had to cram for a college final, so I watched all five Final Destinations while you were studying, while I was while I was doing my work in my project. Like literally started at like probably like ten o'clock, eleven o'clock and watched all of them. Was done before five. Because the one thing I love about these movies, not many exceed ninety minutes. No, they don't. They don't tend to overstay their welcome. Yeah, and even Final Destination blood Lines is the longest so far of the series, and I think it's at like one hundred and five minutes, So I'm excited about that.

48:56 So it was Final Destination five I saw at the drive in Okay, and I had not seen I think it was three or four. Yeah, we're the ones I missed because after I saw five at the drive and I immediately sought out all of the films because I wanted to catch back. Well in five spoiler alert. Five has that brilliant pullback on ending too. It was a great ending that maybe go yeah. Yeah. So getting into Final Destination, we open as we find Alex Browning who's played by Devin Salwa, and he is at his home packing for the school field trip to go. To Europe, well to go to France. France. Yet more specifically, there was no I don't know if the EU had had claimed France yet. But we also get the get we get the idea that he's a little nervous about this. His mom tries to take one of the tags off his bag and he's like, no, can't do that, like it's bad luck, and he just doesn't really have a desire to fly.

49:45 It sounds like. Yeah, and and I have to say, whoever wrote this film, I mean, well of the writers, yeah, whoever one of them had substantial generalized anxiety, I would say, because they were very good at depicting the idea of just being nervous about every single thing around you. Yeah, and for that I commend them. On a rewatch, I was like, man, I'm getting nervous in the plane just by the way he's watching everything that's happening around him. One of my favorite things is, like, to add to his distress, I guess is he goes to the ticket counter and she's like, Oh, the plane has the same numbers as your birthday. No, that's weird because flight attendants just say that apparently, I.

50:27 Mean, if they notice it thing, I guess, yeah, I mean not everybody is like you who just walks in with like a neck pillow and like sunglasses and earbudget just like whatever serve me. There was one time, so I was trying to figure out if when we had flown to Florida, if it was a poster pre nine eleven was yeah, and my sister reminded me. She was like, I don't know what year it was, but I remember the very small plane that we flew back on. My parents will not let me forget you this day. So I'm like, I had to have been single digits, if not, like just maybe ten at most. And we get onto this this puddle jumper for our final flight that was are connect back to Dayton Airport at this point and we get on this flight. The guy comes on, he's like, you know, we're gonna be cruising this point blah blah blah, And I apparently, like I just spoke up. I was like, I guess we're not getting any drinks on this flight.

51:13 I mean, you weren't wrong. Yeah. Now, the first time I flew alone, I was about I was twelve, twelve or eleven. Yeah, yeah, I was a little at your wings. No, I was too old for that. Ah. Yeah, they don't really do that. Also, they don't actually do that that often anyway, But I remember being handed off to the to the the flight attendants. Yeah, and they really did. They kept an eye on me. They seated me with the one other on the way out. There was one other young kid and he's flying by themselves, so they sat us next to each other, which was fine because I mean back then, you know, you were like, oh, no, did I pack extra batteries for my Walkman? I only have three CDs.

51:58 Bro I couldn't even hear. So I have my I had my tape Walkman when we flew to Florida, because I remember having the Batman soundtracking a couple other things. I couldn't even hear. My headphones didn't go high enough once the plane started. I had that problem. Yeah, where I mean I had the volume all that? What I ended up doing I had, I don't remember. I had like a little book of CDs and I just remember I put on the loudest one I had and I could hear that. But on the way this was from Dayton to New Hampshire, no connecting flights to keep things easier for poor little child make Yeah, and on the way out there, I just remember it being like the easiest flight ever. We're up in the air, they're bringing you sprite. I forget how the flight's not long. It's maybe an hour and a half tops, which is awesome because it's a thirteen and a half hour drive, Yeah, which is.

52:41 What we normally red. Yeah, I'm here. And I just remember like getting my soda. I remember all this stuff and uh. And the person I was sitting next to was very like talkative, so we were talking and having a nice time and just great. The landing was scary because small planes landings, everything's worse than a small plane. Yeah, so the landing's worse, you know. Uh but whatever. On the way up, Oh and we got there early because we were with the wind. On the way back, we were against the draft. Oh yeah, so the plane just like we get up there and I'm like, okay, cool. I had like a and the whole plane just vibrated for like forty five minutes straight, and I thought we were all gonna die. And a stewardess walked over. It was just like, are you all right?

53:23 And I was like, uh yeah. She was like, this is normal. Yeah, it's just the way it is. This is why the flight's longer on the way home than it is on the way away. Have a jack and coke? Yeah, here, why don't you just have a jack and coke and hold on? It's the nineties, so here's a valume. Here's a quick I just have I have sad one left over. It's I have a it's in a role like like like CERTs or whatever like, but it's it's coludes in valume. But no, I remember being terrified for that part. Yeah, and slowly calming down. I was not a I didn't enjoy flying until I was an adult. I get that because as an adult it was like, hey, you need to fly somewhere for work. And I was like, oh cool, where are we flying? They were like JFK to to Los Angeles and I was like, so like the longest flight while still in the United States, and they were like, yep, it's like four and a half hours in a plane.

54:15 Is JFK as chaotic as I've heard of this? It is pretty it's it's huge in chaotic, it's it's a lot. It's a lot. And we had to fly out of JFK because that was our airline was serviced out of there. So we get up in the air and I Am like squeezing my seat and I'm nervous as shit and I'm nervous as shit, and after about an hour, I just got tired of it. I was like, okay, whatever, Like I'm just going to watch this. They had TV you could watch, so I was like, I don't care anymore. I'm just going to watch TV. And I just stopped caring. The landing still gets me a little bit. Ye, just heading toward the ground can be a lot, but even still like the last time I flew, I flew down to Florida a few years back. I just had a fun time with it. Like I got I was by myself, and on the way on the I had to connect to North Carolina, and on the way to North Carolina, it was just me. The plane was almost empty. They were doing that thing where they're like, well, some people like to move to the back so we could balance the plane and all this stuff, and I just watched my iPad. I watched movies on it. I was watching airplane movies, which is always bad idea when you're on a plane, so I highly recommend it.

55:20 The last time I flew my my flying to Florida movie was The Warriors, and then my flying back from Florida movie was Eddie the Eagle. For the first time. Oh yeah, nice, that was the recommendation from you. I watched American Maid, okay, and I watched Airport No. I watched Executive Decision. Yeah yeah, I watched Executive Decision. And when I was at the terminal for three hours, I watched Terminal of course, because I I am hilarious and clever. I it was actually the first time i'd ever seen terminal, so I actually really enjoyed it. And then I was like, man, now I'm hungry because you made me. Got to go gather these carts. Now, I guess right, I'd never seen eating a whopper looks so great in my life.

56:04 I watched the guy recently. He I don't know what he what his channel specifically is, but he does like food breaks down and broke debt breakdown of movies for the most part. And one of the things he did was figure out how he could scarf the big burger down. And he basically realized that they probably didn't have a patty and it was all just like outer so that when he bit into it, it just he could bite just through the bread and eat it really quickly. I don't know why you wouldn't just assume that Tom Hanks is that damn good. I'm not saying he's not, but I think he's just that damn good. I don't know how many takes Spielberg is known for at this point. I didn't say he swallowed the burger. Do you know that's a common practice. So the bucket they spit it out into because of the amount of takes they have to do. That's how Bill Murray got super sick on Groundhog Day.

56:45 He didn't spit he ate that entire angel food cake and swallowed it. Yeah, Maria, I really for names. Maria Sertis who played who played Uh, I can't believe I'm forgetting Star Trek names. Oh, I've been It's been a long week. But she was on and start treking this generation she played. See, I can't I can't believe myself. Okay, bud, But but she uh not. Only when she had to do these these few eating scenes, she was like, I have to spit it out. And they were like, well, we're only doing They were like, well, we're only doing four takes, so you you know, and it's the end of the day. And she was just like, have you seen the outfit I fit into on this show. I will not be swallowing any cake and I have not planned to swallow yeah, which I thought was I was like, she no, I mean like for real though, like that would be That's that's a lot for her to you know, she had to maintain a serious figure on that whole show.

57:37 I saw a video recently. And then we'll get back to the movie. Michelle Fiver went to visit the cat suit from Batman Returns, and she was looking at us. She's just like, I can't believe there was a time. I mean, I would be fascinated to know what her diet was. I'm assuming like a spray of PAM cooking spray in your mouth in the morning. She passed out like three times in the suit. And then you lick a power bar for lunch and then and then dinner is a hot sauce packet all. She was so so thin. Yeah, I mean they had a vacuum sealer in it. She passed out like two or three times, and also had to learn how to use a whip in that thing too. Yeah, I imagine that was tough. It was Deanna Troy. I can't believe I forgot Deanna Troy from Star Trek the Nation Region. I'm embarrassed.

58:19 You've redeemed yourself. I don't look it up either, I just my brain just figured it out. So we're back at JFK Airport and oh yeah, they flew out of JFK. Yeah, I'm glad I didn't remember that when I flew out of JFK, I didn't. That's a good call. Mother Hubbard, so Alex also we get to beat some of the other classmates, which includes Clear Rivers. We have Carter played by Kurs Smith. We have Valerie Luton who is the one of the teachers. We also have Todd his brother Chad, and then we have Billy played by Sean Williamscott in a backwards baseball cap. Hey, my fellow kids, I was stiffler. Or a should be Todd and George not Chad. Okay, So that is when we also have Devin Salwa is just starting to notice things around the airport. He's still nervous and whatnot. And we also see that Clear is picking up on it that he that he's got nervousness.

59:11 And that's also when Todd decides to ask if he wants to go to the bathroom and take a pre flight shit. Yeah, you know, the altitude could do funny things to a man and his guts. I liked that idea because it's kind of that it kind of feels that human need to find patterns. Yeah, it's kind of like deja vu, you know how It's like I feel like I've done this before, but I haven't. Why do I feel like I've done this before. So it's almost like the idea is to me, what I got from this is that all these little things you noticing them, like your birth date's the same as the whatever. So all these coincidences, because you know, there's some people who don't even believe in coincidences, that it's like that was death kind of showing its hand in a way most people don't notice because you've.

59:58 Got them sitting in the stall Rocky Mountain High by John denverckhams on John famously died in a plane crash. Yes, and deleted scene. I don't it wasn't on the disc, but deleted scene apparently was they were gonna have the girls also in their own bathroom as well, and clear was going to be reading a magazine with an article on Leonard Skinnard. Oh man, that's funny. Yeah. So he uh, Devinsaw's character is sitting there and he hears it and he's like, oh, John Denveres like died in the plane crash. That's a little weird. I would have been like, let's let's switch the radio over. Hello. It's like, all right, this is no music, no music, no music. We're done. So they leave the bathroom they go back out. Devin Saw was watching the flight boards at this point and the heap seeing them flip. Some flights are canceling again, just building on this tension, on this nervousness. And then finally we move into the plane and the plane's a bit chaotic. The classmates are all, you know, excited for the trip. We also see that there's a baby on the flight, a menutally challenged person, which prompts somebody to be like, oh, well, then you know we're safe on this flight. God wouldn't kill a baby or a mentally a challenge person.

1:00:56 Yeah, yeah, God never does that. No, no, sa no suh. Well, And and that's the other thing too, is international flights are generally crowded, crowd like packed, and this is no exception. It's just packed full of people. You've got a whole high school class, You've got all these different people going to Paris for all these different reasons, some connecting, some arriving. And it does give you this really great sense of the plane because you do see a little bit of everything in an airplane. It's not uncommon to see nuns and clergy and. I always doctors love movie airplanes because they look so huge, like they look like houses.

1:01:37 On Well, international flights are really. Big, really big. Yeah, because I always think of the first time that I saw turbulence with Ray Liota. Oh yeah, that plane is huge. Well, yeah, because filming in a fake plane. Yeah, I've heard so many stories. Well, just about the worst part for Fred. Ray talked about this a bit with me one time, because he did a couple of airplane movies. Yeah, and he said the worst part was the seats, because they're all you can pop them up and move them, but it takes there's so many and it takes forever. So anytime you want to reverse shot, you got to move all those seats. But then you gotta find somewhere to put them. Yeah, because if you take them off the set, the plane set, or even sometimes a real plane, but it's whatever, you know, fuselage. If you take them too far away, it takes even longer to set up.

1:02:23 And then you'll you'll be like, well, let's stash those away, we won't need them for a while, and then all of a sudden it be like we got this bunch shot. There's no seats in that in the back of the shot. It's like, oh my god, somebody go find those cheers and they're not light. Yeah, they're they're real. Yeah, So because people have to be able to sit in them, and it's like it's tight. You're breathing the same air. You're trying to get air in, but you have lights that are making it hot. I mean, now it wouldn't be so bad with LED lights and stuff, but back then, I mean you were, you were heating it up. I mean I remember shooting in houses and stuff back before LED lighting, and we don't have the level of lights. You know, we'd have maybe four really strong lights and we could just in the in the wind, we could just turn the heat off because it would heat the house, all the people, with all the lights, it would keep the place warm. Yep. So yeah, I remember would not want to be on.

1:03:08 A shooting babysitter that we We did that a couple of times. Is that thousand of the thousand watt? My god? I love that light. It was so bright, so bright, and it hurt. Well, oh do you touch it? Oh? Yeah, couple of times yeah, that Matt and I both did. We people used to laugh at me because I go to a justice la there's yeah, and they'd be like, don't you have gloves? Of course I have gloves. I'm not using them. Yeah, you would laugh at me my gloves and be like, oh oh, look at that. Somebody doesn't have chef hands. It's literally the one thing they instilled upon us in films. Always have gloves if you're working in any capacity on a set, and not just for that, because you just never know when you have to lift up a couch or something. You should just have gloves. Absolutely. But no, So I've always heard that filming on an airplane can be pretty awful. Oh I bet, and I mean obviously, and this is it, and we're talking airplanes set. We're not even talking a literal airplane.

1:03:58 I mean, they can't look all as impressive as Freddie's Nightmare is that one. I almost out why he needed to fly out of Springwood, but hey, it. Is what it is. So by this point, Alex sits down, and he also is asked by two girls if he can move seats so they can sit closer to this one girl. He abides by it. He goes and sits down. He goes to work on his trade table, but he realizes that the table won't stay up because the button's broken. Yeah, he pulls the button off and just was sitting there. It wasn't actually attached to anything. And we also have this point have had some tension between him and Carter. Carter's kind of a dick. We pick up on that pretty quickly, and so eventually the flight takes off. Everybody's cheering and they're like, you know, our flight time is this, this and this. They get up in the air and then hit some turbulence, makes everybody nervous, and then it kind of straightens out. But then there's a giant hole in the side of the plane as a fire breaks out. The actually the oxygen mask dropped down. Fire is sweeping through the plane. We see Alex get it, We see a bunch of his classmates get it. And the last thing that we see is the fire reaching him, burning him as we zoom out, and we show that he he just had a premonition and they're still on the plane.

1:05:02 And he's drenched in sweat. Yeah, and I want to mention, by the way, if there was ever a way to advertise like you need a surround sound system. It's just all shit. It's just all the airplane crashes in famous movies. Yeah, the Gray airplane crash amazing time. Oh the crashes in speed when we when we put my Blu ray on that one night, Holy shit your sound system. Yeah yeah, it rumbles everything. You feel like you're in a plane crash. And final destination was no exception no on that. And one of my favorite things is when he realizes what happened, he runs over to where he where he was sitting. It is premonition is what he thought was a dream at that point, and the button comes from and comes off, so now he knows it's real. We start hearing some repeats of some things that I think Sean Williamscott like costs on candy at one point, and then also so he starts freaking out like the plane's gonna fucking crash, the plane's gonna blow up, And naturally everybody's like, oh my god, what, and you know, Carter is like, hey, calm down. They get into a huge fight. Long story short, they get kicked off the plane then.

1:05:58 And it's brilliant too because as I was rewatching it, I didn't remember all the details. Yeah, he starts screaming like, if you keep doing this, we'll take you off the plane. But then Carter's just like dude stopping a dick. They start finding he punches him. It's like, now you're all off the plane because you just punched him too. So they remove the five students. There's the two teachers. Luckily, Luton goes over and she explains the situation that they need to have a counselor in the air for the kids, a chaperone, I mean, And so one of the teachers goes back on the plane. Luton is stuck with the students. And like you said, we see Shaw Willams Scott watching the flight take off, and we see Carter and Alex going at it still and he's just like, you're fucking crazy, blahlah blah blah. And then Shaw Wiamscott looked at the plane as it goes up in the sky. Bye, have fun in France or whatever. There they go, and I love that it blows up right when it's almost out of view. It's like at the last possible second for you to see it happen, yeah, boom boom, and it explodes the windows. It's a fireball, kind of hits them a little bit. It's a huge shock wave.

1:06:57 It's so effective and it still got me just like it did when I was a kid. Yeah, no, it's it's it's unsettling. But also just even though you expect it coming, like you said, it's just still shocking when it happens. Oh yeah, no, no, and and and I was just so pleased that the movie still surprised me. Yeah, because nothing's better than that. You know. I get no joy out of rewatching something I loved as a kid and it not being as good as I remember it, but I get such a joy out of it getting me one more time. So naturally, some suspicion is now on Alex. How did he know? How they know that was going to happen? And the FBI is called in. Well it does make sense. Yeah, and you know, and this film, it's important to point out that it's pre nine eleven, Yes, which is why you started wondering if you'd flown pre nine to eleven. If it had been post nine eleven, he would have been able to get off that plane.

1:07:46 Real really eazy. The moment he said like this play's gonna blow up, they'd be like out out right now, right now, the security is waiting for. They would have also had to get their like four hours in advance and not gotten through security that easy. Yeah, I mean, I guess I've flown out of JFK. Yeah, it was a long line of shoeless people. So survivors. Now we have Alex Todd Terry, who is Carter's girlfriend. We also have the teacher Valerie Luton, Billy Hitchcock, and Clear Rivers. They're all removed from the plane. They all survived this explosion. Now and naturally, like I said, the FBI is called in and they question Alex. But we also have the names of the FBI agents, which we have Agent Shrek and agent is it Whiney. Agent Shrek and was it Whinney? Now I can't remember.

1:08:29 Ween maybe, but Daniel Roebuck who plays Ween. And we also have the great Roger Gouverner Smith who plays Agent Shrek in this also it is two years before the Shrek animated film comes out, Yes, and yeah it was Ween Yeah, Ween Ween, And so they're asking him like, you know, how did you know? And he's like trying to explain his premonition. Immediately they are suspect of Alex, which I mean makes sense. Yeah, And the actor who plays Agent Shrek, Roger Guenever Gwenever' smith. I think I'm saying that right. He's a great actor, great character actor. And I mentioned to you when we when you came over while I was finishing up the movie. Yeah, he's so intense in every role I've ever seen it. Oh yeah, So he's a great like off hooting character.

1:09:12 One of my all time favorites of his. I don't remember the year of it, but there's a movie called Shade that has Sylvester Slone Melanie Griffith, Gabrielle Byrne, where he plays a mob enforcer basically like the the second in command, and he is terrifying even though he does not raise his voice, he keeps it low the entire time. Oh no, I mean he's so in two thousand and. Three eyes, his eyes are where that intensity is too. Yeah, it was two thousand and three. I love it. No, he's he's so so good. And I first remembered him really from being in Oz where he played one of the uh he played one of the Muslim brotherhood who was trying to kind of take over the brotherhood. Yeah, and uh, he's just there's something about him. He can so calmly say something that makes you really uncomfortable. Yeah, he's almost like a red Herring, except that there is no red nobody.

1:10:00 We know who we know who's in this at this point, or who's behind. Me pretty much we'll give or take. Yeah. Yeah, so but it's a very interesting He brings this interesting energy. Yeah, which then Tony Todd's character also kind of brings this likely quiet dread Well intensity. And Roebuck baby face Roebuck in this as I as I said, uh, he Roebuck has a presence with him that even when he's playing I mean he plays a lot of cop rolls for one. Yeah, but even when he plays these roles, he's still so good in delivering like is he the good guy? Is he on our side? Kind of thing. It's just like with this one in particular, it's like he wants to believe Alex, but he doesn't. I feel Dan Roebuck he's a phenomenal actor. Yeah, but I find that his best like his type is bureaucrat that you believe, actually care. Yeah, because there are a lot of bureaucrats where like rolling your eyeses like I have to lease s wort. But if he said, like we just have to at least fifteen forms and then I'll do everything I care for whatever you'd be like, I believe you. Yeah, like let's let's he's got a very disarming kindness to him, even I mean, even when he played Monsters of History like Jay Leno.

1:11:07 Even even unpopular opinion he's one of the best parts of the Monsters movie by Rob Zombie. I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. I think he is absolutely, undoubtedly the best part of that movie. I think that movie just has an unpopular opinion. Whether you like the movie or not, I think you're like, wow, he's so good as Grandpa. So by this point, Alex is suspect number one. They send him back home, and naturally everybody has to adjust to the loss of the students. There's a huge uh situ, a ceremony at the school. They have a statue that they dedicate, which they have live music during the statue dedication. Yeah, which is nice. They're well, I mean, they're rich enough to go to Paris. Yeah. Well, and and the real thing is now everybody is there's a split between grief, confusion, and anger and wondering if this mother Hubbard over here is a soothsayer.

1:11:54 Well, he says, clear is the only one that believes him basically about the premonition. She's the only one, and she's she is the weird girl of this group. She is she's an artist, she's reading all the time, and she's not really friends with. That and is typical with any good horror film, she's like super model hot while being all of those while being the unpopular nerd girl. Yeah, so by this point, she's one of the only ones that really believes him. You've even got Todd's father that wants to choke Alex at this point because he Blameshi for George's death. Yeah, that's and that's what I mean is like people are trying to fer it, like is he a soothsayer? Is he some kind of a supernatural cursed being? And that's something that after years away from it, I kind of forgot that element because you get so obsessed with the idea, like in this film, luck is Jason Voorhies, So I had forgotten that there's a whole element of people just wondering like are you a witch or are you a psychic? Like what what is with you? And then of course it's like if you saved you and these people, Why did you save everybody? Yeah? Of course, you know in reality, these would be the same people who are like, just get all off the plane, let us go to Paris. It's like he would have happily had everybody stay on the ground, but that wasn't his call.

1:13:05 That wasn't his call. So like it's thirty nine days later at this point as well, when we have the memorial service and we find out that Todd does not have any permission to be near Alex at this point. His dat is strictly forbidding him to be around him. And so this kind of brings a tussle into Alex's life because now he is suspect number one. He's very well known in the community now, but not for a good reason. And he's troubled. I mean he's troubled with this because now he's trying to figure out, you know, what is going on exactly well. And one thing I love about this movie is that it explores survivor's guilt. Yeah in an unusual way, yeah, still in a way. And I think survivor's guilt is one of those things I wish was touched on more because I think that it's easy to only focus on victims are who are gone. Yeah, but to have that moment where you're like, why me and not them? You know, it's a really.

1:13:55 Hard pill to swallow, though, it really is. It's a hellish way to live knowing that you were spared for for some reason you'll never know. And that's the the big thing is, you know, there's no there's never any closure in being the survivor of a tragedy, especially when it's like you lived and hundreds died very very hard. But of course then they'll I'm sure he's also being torn apart by like was the premonition to save me and my friends? Or or what else? Or what what is this? I mean, really, that's really the question is what is this? Well, my biggest question is if most of your class dies, do you automatically graduate or do you actually still have to do studies at that point? Well, I mean, what is this? That that that movie about when you're in college of your roommate on campus, because it's like it's like the dead Man on Campus rule.

1:14:43 It's like, well, I mean I imagine they'd be like, well, we really can't have you failing, because well, no child left behind hasn't started yet, but we might lose our funding anyway. Have you seen the horror version of Dead Man on Campus called The Curve with Matthew Lillard? Oh god, yeah, yeah, no, yea, that's a fun that's a I haven't heard Mark af ever. Yeah, that's a great one. Yeah. So by this point, obviously there's tension between Todd and Alex and he's worried about Todd. And uh, one night he's he's home alone, he's in his room and he's flipping through a magazine. But then he ends up, you know, deciding for a little tug time. So he gets out a porno mag and he's getting ready to do his thing, and then an owl comes out of nowhere and lands on his window, scaring Alex, throwing the magazine into a fan, and that's when we get the beautiful of because Todd only has one D in his name.

1:15:32 So the magazine hits the fan, shreds everywhere, and then perfect piece of the word today Todd lands on sauwas leg Now. Would an owl stop you or would you would just be like no, You're like, I've trained, I've trained too hard for this. I just love the fact that literally they named the character Todd with one D so they could use that gag. I don't know how common one D Todd, but it is. It is a thing. But no, it yeah, totally. I mean you see his house. His parents were not, you know, so poor. They couldn't buy another vowel or buy another letter. Sound like my grandpa. And they asked him, do you have a middle name like I do? He's like no, Like why not? He's like, we were too poor to afford middle names in the village I came from. That's what he used to tell me.

1:16:13 Yeah. I thought he was serious to tell I was a teenager. Oh my god. I was like, what does it cost more? I don't understand. But Todd, on the other end, is at his home. He goes into his bathroom and he just needs to shave at this point, apparently this is. Such a weird scene because oh, because not only does he decide randomly to try and shave himself dryly. Yes, and I get it. I like a smooth neck whenever possible, and it is very hard to achieve for those out there of the female variety. I don't know why I said it like that. The hard thing about shaving your face is your hair grows in a bunch of different directions, so you have to really learn the grain of your face, and even then you may not be able to get it all. So I understand like walking in the bathroom and you're like, oh, that sounds scratchy. I'll just get that.

1:17:01 But he picks up a safety razer. Not Now, this is a common misconception. A safety razor is not one of those razors with the blade encased in plastic. That is not a safety raiser. That's a disposable razor. A safety raiser is a little metal handle that holds one blade razor blade, and you can get an incredibly close shaved with one of those, if you know what you're doing. I actually really like safety blade shaving. Well, when I saw that razor, my first thought was is that his dad's because like, who wasn't just handed a Gillette yeah when you were a kid. But also he goes to shave dry with it, which you cannot do because with a Gillette razor or whatever, those plastics's actually well and they often have those little you know something or other. Yeah, but he goes completely dry, so he immediately cuts himself.

1:17:50 But I just I just could not stop. It couldn't get over the whole safety Razor cuts himself. That's the first part, right, And then at this point he's also knocks something over into the sink. But what he doesn't realize is that his toilet mysteriously starts leaking blue water. Well are you are you not familiar with Oh you're not, are you? Oh? With it's more it's more popular back then. Yeah, but we used to have these thingies. You could either they could either be attached to the side of the bowl that would yeah yeah, yeah, and that's why the water the tank was blue. That was my assumption, was the water was blue, and which is also smart because it made it easier to see on camera. Yeah, but no, I remember, you know, like it was always like older people's houses. I'd go there and I'd be like, the toilet waters.

1:18:35 Does I say we had that at my parents' house. I mean they I think Mom would just usually just put the thing in there. But I've seen the ones on the side that are also clipped out. I think there's one you can put in the tank. I don't know. I just bleach. I just bleach my toilet every week or so. But why do you bleach my toilet? I already do it, not your toilet, my toy. Oh sorry, maybe be a little bit more specific next time. So at this point we also get a bunch of fake outs. There's an electric radio, there's a you know, other things that they're just going around this room that are just like, eh, could it happened this way? Could it happened? This great example of what it's like to live with the constant anxiety of death. Yeah. So he finally ends up slipping on the water and doing so knocks all the shampoos down in his tub. As he lands into the tub, a clothesline wraps around his neck and starts completely choking him and hanging him.

1:19:19 And he can't kick because the shampoo is there, and he also can't get to these scissors to cut it. And the thing I love about this scene that is also so haunting is his eyes start going super bloodshot. Oh yeah, yeah, no, they show what's causing his death. Yeah, And I do love the fake out mm hm. I really love that you think it's gonna be this way, and you think it's gonna be this way, and then it's this way. That was actually why when I saw a Final Destination five. Yeah, in the theater after I saw how great and fun it was. Yeah, it might have been you. It was there was somebody probably wasn't you, But there's somebody I talked to. No, there was somebody I talked to. I said like, whow, I was really great, and they're like, oh, you need to see the other ones, you know, because it's been wild, like at least four.

1:19:59 Very welcome to me because I was a big I was a big pusher for these movies. Yeah, I just don't think we were that close of friends in twenty eleven. We were leaning because that would have been Babysitter was shot twenty twelve. Yes, yes, the end of twenty yeah twelve, Yeah, maybe, but either way, I just I just remember being told, hey, that one's you know, the other one's are really good too, because I think I'd only seen two at that point. But that was what made me want to go see us. I was, damn, they are not messing around, like there's still It's kind of like how those later saw movies. No matter how you felt about the story, they still went all out and coming up with the contraption. Absolutely did No, I I will defend the Saw movies except for Spiral, which Spiral I don't hate. It's just I really had a lot of promise with that movie and was let down.

1:20:44 He hates it. I do not hate it. But anyway, so back to Todd. He is his eyes are going bloodshot. He is trying to cut this wire, can't get to it. Alex is approaching his house more and more, but by the time he gets to it, Todd's dead. And then we get to the only instance of this happening in any of the final of this Nation series. Death basically undoes the water slip and sucks everything back into the toilet, making it seem like it was a suicide. Well, and I think that I know you said, like, this is the only time Death covered its tracks. Yes and no, because because this was just the only one that definitely looked like a suicide. Suicide. Yeah, at first like accidents. And then start to look like Devin Salah's committing murder. Yes, so the teacher's wacky dead. Oh my god, we'll get there.

1:21:26 We'll get there so good. So by this point his death is ruled a suicide. His dad straight up tells Alex that he does not want to see him anymore, calls him a murderer and says that it's all his fault. Yeah, he blames He says that, like, my son was so distraught with guilt that he killed himself. And he's like, why would he kill himself? He makes a really good point, says like we were making plans, Yeah, why would he why he was not suicide and then kill himself. Yeah. So by this point Alex and Clear have spoken a little bit more on it, and they get the idea that they're going to sneak into the funeral home to examine Todd's corpse, and ladies and gentlemen, this is where we get our honorable cameo of the late Great Tony Todd is William Bludworth. They break into the name too, I know, they break into the mortuary. They're looking for his body. They find his body, but it doesn't look anything like him at this point because of the strangulation.

1:22:15 And that's when William Bloodworth comes in and tells them that he basically knows who both of them are, knows Alex by name, and I mean at this point he goes into this monologue about how you cannot change the path of death. Yeah, when death comes for you, it comes for you, and if you miss it, if it misses you, it's still gonna come back. Because one of my favorite lines is that that's one mac daddy you don't want to fuck with. Well, and he's a great it's a great pivot moment to make you understand what's going on without like totally spelling it out, because yeah, who is going to have more of an opinion of death than the guy at the mortuary who sees dead people every single day.

1:22:59 In death, there are no accidents, no coincidences, no mishaps, no escapes. It's it's it's a damn fine scene. Yeah, And I mean that is that is basically where we get the idea that Tony Todd is death in this franchise. But I have some trivia at the end that may or may not change that for us. I'm very curious. So by this point, Alex is realizing that now death is coming for them and he's got to figure out what the order is that they died in the premonition because there is a change to that, and also they're just discussing their next move. They end up going to a cafe and that is when we see Kurt Smith is out with his girlfriend. We see that Shawn Wallis Scott's riding Behy on his bicycle. One thing leads to another, and Carter decides to run. Oh god, I can't think of his name in the h What is his name?

1:23:46 Is a Billy you're talking about? Deal? No? No, no, I know, Alex is it? I think it's Billy is Shawn ways Gott? Yeah, Billy Hitchcock. Billy runs Billy off his bike and all while this happens right in front of Clear and Alex also val Lewton, their teacher comes out. So now all the survivors are gathered on a corner, and. Have we appreciated yet? Val Luten, Val Luton, Oh, I've got the whole list at the end. Is that okay? Good? Yeah? That's a deep cut, good cut. I guess you didn't hear the other teacher's name. Now what was it? Now? Yeah, m you are in a you? Oh yeah, that one doesn't ring a bell for some reason. I think that's the director of No Saratu. Oh really, I'm not mistaken yet. Well, and then I mean Shrek was the name of Yeah, there's a lot.

1:24:27 Yeah, so by this point, they're at the cafe. They've all caught up and uh, his girlfriend, h Carter's girlfriend is freaking out, and she's just like, you know, if this is what you're go if this is what you're gonna do, like I don't want to be a part of it, and this this is how you're gonna waste your life, then you can both drop fucking dead, which is the famous line as she walks into the street and gets ran over by a bus. And and it's a great example of so you thought you understood because we had this long drawn out thing, but yeah, so just get you, just get you, just get you. And it sprays Alex with blood, who also now has a seven on his face if you look really closely. Yeah, there's a lot of Easter eggs in this. Oh yeah. Yeah. So, after watching a news report on the cause of the explosion, Alex then deduces that death is reclaiming the survivors in the order that they took on the plane.

1:25:10 And now he's realizing that it's coming to miss Luton. So Luton has by this point decided that she is leaving town. She's left the school, and we cut to her house and she's packing, she's talking to her a psychiatrist on the phone, and everything that happens. This, my god, this is honestly probably the most famous. Yeah, I would say, so, yeah, I would say. So. We see that she is uneasy, she's drinking some tea. She finishes her tea and she puts some new one on. And one thing I forgot to mention so far is that every time death is sneaking into these people's lives, we get like a black cloud like figure of it, almost. A shadow, like a shadow with nothing, kind of like ghost with Patrick Squayze, you say that about every movie I do, every movie? No, no, yeah, yeah, I would agree.

1:25:53 So Luton is packing up her stuff, she hangs up with a psychiatrist, and she wants to make more tea, so she goes to the stove, puts another tea pot on, and by this point she realizes that she's not moved for tea because she gets spooked again, and so she goes to the closet grabs a record to put on that just so happens to be Rocky Mountain High by John Denver. Oh boy. And since she got spooked by I think it's like a spider or something in her glass. She decides that she's going to switch from hot tea to vodka from her freezer. From her freezer, which automatically cracks the mug as she's pouring in with a cheap mug, so she's walking around her house the vodka is just dripping on the floor. She doesn't realize that it's cracked at this point, and also goes over to start packing up her computer. As she's holding the mug over, the water drips or the vodka drips into the computer and starts shorting it out.

1:26:38 She goes back to packing another box, and also by this point too, Alex is walking somewhere around the neighborhood and we get another premonition of ashes. Ashes surround him, and he knows that something's up. Not just ashes, they're like ember ashes, They're like they're freshly like lighting up. They're on fire currently. So by this point now Alex realizes that she's in danger. He was probably already walking over there for that matter too, and he rushes over. But Luton is packing a box. She hears her computer short out, goes up to it, and right behind her is the shot of her front door, which is the glass design of a dagger, which just so happens to be very good foreshadowing as the computer monitor burst sending a piece of shard right into her neck. Yes, which I mean, I guess it was a dell.

1:27:22 So when the computer shorts out naturally, it also catches all the vodka on fire that is dripped. So now fire is going up to her and by this point she is bleeding from the neck. She slips onto something that I think it might be the vodka, so I can't remember. There's so much that happens. Yeah. Yeah, So she's reaching up trying to she pulls the shard out of her neck, and that's when she decides that she's also going to pull this towel up that is over this night she's. Trying to her because now she's laying on the floor. Yeah. And I do want to say, just real quick, uh huh, that I know you were talking about, like vodka probably wouldn't light up like that. I don't think it would and stuff like that. Yeah. And my response is in this film, death kind of uses cheek codes a bit.

1:28:07 Yeah, but the Rube Goldberg cheek. Yeah, I said, I said. This ghost also known by the other name Rube Goldberg, well the other the other. If I had written this scene, yes, I would have had her be like I would have had her open the freezer, pull out the vodka bottle, have it be empty, and then she'd go and grab a box like uh like this other just said like from mom with love and it just says like Kentucky on the address or something, and have her open it up and it'd be shine. Yeah, that would be my way to fix that, but of course that would make the scene a lot longer, yes, when what we really need to do is talk about getting that towel off of the Oh my god. So by this point she's fallen on the ground, which also skipped the record which made Rocky Mountain the High start over. So she's also trying to get this towel off a knife rack. Naturally, it's sitted right over the knife rack to where she pulls it down. The knife rack goes and gets she gets rained on by blades, one specifically right into her chest, right into the middle of her chest, and by this Alex has gotten into the house. He's like, you know, how can I help?

1:29:02 And then and she's just looking at like because she's dying yeah. And then the fire is caught up to the oven, which makes the oven explode. Yes, and then knock a chair down that hammers the knife into her chest, killing her. Which that that it was like a vampire movie. The chair tips over and just deep digs it deeper in. But what does he do? And I will say, Yeah, you gotta give his character a little bit of a break. He's a kid, Yeah, supposed to be like seventeen or eighteen years old. So the first thought he has is he pulls the knife out of her chest, try and help. But now he's standing in the with a blood knife, dead teacher. And as he walks out, you see his footprints in the blood. Yes. And then by this point also Billy is riding past the house on his bike. Alex comes running out of the house. The house explodes, knocks both of them to the ground, and now the cops have him by another or near another body.

1:29:48 Yeah, it's not looking great. It's not looking great. It's starting to look like I believe what they determined. They were saying that his survivor's guilt had pushed him to kill. Yeah. And it gets worse because they interrogate him again and he basically says, the longer you keep me in here, somebody else might die. But what if we keep you in here and nobody dies is basically. The question I did like that's line. But they have nothing to hold him on, so they have to let him go. So by this point everybody is nervous. Had bloody shoe bloody would he have OJ's lawyer come on? Apparently, So Carter clear Billy all end up meeting in Carter's car as they're all driving, and that's when Alex is trying to explain to them that there is a pattern, but he won't say who's next because Carter wants to know. Carter is fucking scared at this point. He's just like I can't die, but like who's next on the list?

1:30:32 And he will not tell him, and he's like it's me, isn't it. So there's a whole scene where Carter has them speeding in his car. He's playing dangerously and then trying to go past traffic, ending with them parking on the train. Tracks, which why not? Why not? Right? Come on? So everybody gets out of the car, of course, because the train is approaching, except for Carter, who's just like I can't die, you know, And if I am going to die, then I want to be the one in control of it. Well, he does say something great right before his girlfriend dies, where he says like, I'm never gonna die. Yeah, I was like, wow, teenager just saying what. The And so by this point now he is also the only one left in the car and stuck with his seat belt because the seat belt will not unbuckle when the train is approaching and approaching. Finally Alex pulls him loose from the car. They all hit the ground. The car gets smashed by the train, and they're fighting.

1:31:15 You've got Billy who's freaked out at this point, and he's just like, I'm not gonna be here any of you guys. Before all this is happening, we see a piece of metal, a jagged piece of metal on the train tracks, just flipping up and down while the train goes past it. And then a wheel hits it, spins it, and Billy. Gets decapitated straight up, head cut off, head. Cut off, falls to the ground. The corpse is standing in that classic fashion for a couple seconds and then topples over. And I want to point out that so far the deaths in this film have been consistently different, yeah, from each other, because you have the of the plane explosion, but then you have the quasi suicide, which is strangulation, which was very slow drawn out and gruesome. Then you have the teacher getting stabbed through the art. It's very gruesome in your face, visceral. Yeah, but I would say very different. You had the bus just before that, you had the bus smashing the girl out of nowhere, really startling. Yeah, and now and now you have just an out of nowhere decapitation. And I love that because it keeps you really on edge. It does because you're like, okay, so it can either creep up on you or just just happen.

1:32:23 Just happened. And I mean and as we get further into the movies, that happens way more where it's just like the deaths are one shots. There's no Rube Goldberg of this pipe hit going there. It's just like, oh no, this thing broke loosen and paled you. They usually go the most on that in the opening, yeah, which I appreciate, which the opening is of course the uh, the premonition, remedition. Yeah. So now Alex is completely paranoid. He's also talked to Clear. By this point, there's a really cute scene where he goes to see Clear, who is working on she does like shop work and like does like steal sculptures and actually as stulted Alex because she basically says, like I look at you and like we used to be close, but like I didn't know you for so long, and then that night at the airport, I feel like I understood you again. Yeah, but you also still confuse me. But by this point the chicks are weird. But by this point too, Alex is completely paranoid, and he has isolated himself from everybody in this cabin that he's fortified.

1:33:10 He's duct taped everything so that it doesn't fall down lamps. And I gotta say his level of care perfect for a teenage boy. He's putting duct tape against all the things on the side of the wall to keep it all. There, and the edges are taken care of. He's eating one can of cat cat food with gloves with yeah, he puts on gloves to do anything. Yep, it's and he has a fire extinguisher right next to where he's sitting and even still was in a fishing pole falls over and starts opening a door. Death is a caddy bitch and blows into the into the cabin, knocks over a trash can, which knocks over a can that goes into a fishing pole that pulls that falls over, and the holes the hooks, the door handle.

1:33:51 He holds it shut, and a blade. Apparently that whole closet was just full of death implements, yes. Fish hooks a site that God knows what else is in there, and he basically tells Death, I got you, like you can't get me. I got you. You may not be able to get me right now, or you may be able to get me later, but you can't get me right now. I got this place fucking sealed up. Yeah, which it's adorable. He thought that this was. Yeah. So as we get to the conclusion of Final Destination, he is in this cabin. He's shooting paper wads, and we also see that Clear is back at her house home alone this night, and a storm starts moving through, so he throws one ball of paper and it leads him to his yearbook, where he sees the two girls that swept seats, the feeling that he did not, so his order is off. Now and now he realizes that death is going for Clear. Yes, and it's clear. It's clear as day, clear as day. So as he's running out of the cabin, the FBI agents have actually arrived at this point, and he gets into a canoe and escapes the authorities on a canoe.

1:34:50 For as serious as this whole situation is, yeah, him escaping on a canoe with a paddle is very funny. Especially if they have guns drawn, and they easily could have stopped him. Well luckily Roebuck, as I said, the trustworthy bureaucrat. Yeah, in any film, Yeah, it was like, well, just get in the cars and we'll drive around. We'll catch him over there. It's like, yeah, you don't know that he's done anything, don't shoot him. So Clear is at her house and she is in her bedroom. A candle suddenly blows out and we start to hear some shorting out. So she goes out of the bedroom and at this point the bedroom just catches fire. Yeah, out of nowhere. Yeah, So everything starts catching fire in her house and by this point Alex has somehow made it across the lake and record time and is approaching her house. He goes through the Woods ends up tripping, almost getting him paled by a log at one point.

1:35:36 Yes, oh man, that's one of those moments I always remember too. He rolls down a hill, yeah, stops right in front of a big splinter. Which reminded me of Steve Martin in Planes Trains. And that's basically what this movie is missing is del Griffith. It's the only thing that's going to say, we've got I'm gonna get you back to Chicago and away from death. So he gets to clear his house. By this point, a live wire has broken loose and is going everywhere. Clear is in the backyard trying to save her dog, and by doing so also breaks her pool, which now has water going all over the backyard. So now the live wires is getting ready touch the water. She ends up missing it just barely and is like clinging to a uh oh shit, what do they call it? What's the thing on the side of the house that you can climb? A trellis truss? So she clean she's clinging to a trellis. By this point, Alex has arrived. He's like, you know, I'll take care of it. She gets back into her house, somehow gets into the garage is in the is getting it ready to drive the car out.

1:36:29 The garage door fails, the wire breaks loose again in the garage. It's a crazy ass scene. It's an incredible scene, and I apologize I lost my concentration because I just started thinking of Del Griffith, Del, what are you doing here? My wife's been gone for nine years. I was supposed to be in that car too, but I had eaten some clams and they weren't settling right. So I told her i'd catch up with her anyway so I could. The next time. Desk coming for you have a point? Okay, it's so much better for the person you're trying to kill, Like, am I gonna die because the mouthwash is flammable? Am I gonna die because the bed's electric and you've got beer all over it?

1:37:09 Blanes trains all destinations like your final So she gets the car out. By this point, also, the wire has now gone right by the car, and he's like, you know, stay in the car. The rubbers grounded, Like you're good, I'm gonna take care of this. He grabs the wire. It blows him back in the garage. The power completely of gets shut down by this point and everybody's safe. And this part I had actually forgotten how the movie ended somewhat. I forgot that, like it was it all happens like that because the concept of him dying than getting resuscitated to full death because I had seen all the sequels. Yeah, my brain was like, no, death is way too pernisial. Oh we haven't established that. Yeah, we haven't established that death is impossibly pernicious. That's in the sequels.

1:37:59 This it's taddy. So in this one, it's like it's like a you know, a technicality. Yeah, so we get a fake out. We see that like there's a white light, but then we see that they're exit and airplane, and that's when we see that. It's six months later now and Alex Clear and Carter have finally traveled to Paris. So they're enjoying some beers at a local place. There's some atmosphere going on, and it's it's a good time, except for Alex is still unsure, and he reveals that he thinks that death never skipped them because after saving Clear, he's now kind of restarted everything. And why would he be worried. I mean, everything's going great. They're in Paris and Clear are both blonde now. For some reason. Yeah, you know, everything's coming up good. And then the guitar guy behind them that was playing some other songs starts playing a French version of Rocky Mountain High Yep. And we also see that a pipe is rolling across some some like scaffolding that knocks over all these nails.

1:38:51 Yeah, we see a lot of mouse trap ass shit happening. We do. As a bus is coming closer as well, we see that Alex is uneasy. He's like, I'll beat you guys back at the hotel and Clear He's like, no, no, I'll go with you. He's like, no, stay here, And as he's walking out of the street, Clear uh you know, gets his attention. The bus barely misses him in doing so, goes off path, runs into a car, runs into this sign. This sign gets knocked loose and it's getting ready to head right for Alex. Carter comes in and pushes him right out of the way, and that's when he's like, uh, you know, I told you like we're okay, and he's like, no, it wasn't me. And he's like, well then who is it? As the sign swings back one eighty and that is two thousands its final destination. Yes, yes, and and like I said, solid ending, but after seeing all the sequels, I forgot that the first one had such a quaint yeah ending basically that he cheats death.

1:39:41 By coming back and then yeah, Carter gets it in a one eighty sign that literally says one eighty as it comes back. The flight number, which is another They hide so many great little little tidbits in there. So would you like to know what the budget was on the film? Yes, twenty three million. Oh that's pretty reasonable. Opening weekend is March nineteenth, of two thousand, takes in ten million US gross, ends up being fifty three million, grossing worldwide one hundred and twelve million dollars. Not bad, especially back then. That would definitely be considered a hit. Yeah. Absolutely Filmed in Vancouver, Victoria, Canada. Filming began January eleventh of ninety nine and wrapped May twenty eighth of ninety nine, with one pickup shot in November. I want to say, nice.

1:40:24 Yeah, yeah, that's it's crazy because like that's actually a pretty expensive horror movie for that time period especially, and it really paid off. Yeah. So the story was originally going to be a concept for an episode of The X Files, which was inspired by Soul Survivor, the movie you told me about from eighty four. I love Soul Survivor. Extremely underrated. I need to check it out. In this movie. It's still not cheap. Oh I should. Yeah. In this movie, a woman who was a sole survivor of a plane craft starts to be haunted by dead people that death uses temporarily as vessels trying to kill her to correct explan in killing everyone who suspected. Yeah, and for those trying to say it's a ripoff, I wouldn't call it a rip off because sole survivor is very it's very different death is in these like zombie like beings. Yeah, it's basically in sole survivor. Anyone who dies, anyone can now become this vessel trying to kill the people that.

1:41:14 Were almost like, don't kill it. Kind of yeah. Kind In the first draft of the script, the survivors that get off the plane were seven strangers. Due to teen Slash's popularity at the time, the survivors were changed to high school students. That makes sense. Yeah. A miniature model of a Boeing seven forty seven airplane was created for the explosion scene. The model, one of the most detailed miniature scenes in the film, was about ten feet long and seven feet wide. The landing gear was made from all machine metals. According to visual effects supervisor Aerial Vascalo Shaw, the miniature had to be launched about forty feet up in the air to make it look like a real Bowing seven forty seven exploded into a fireball. If blowing up a four foot plane, the explosion must be a minimum of eight feet in the air. To film the explosion in detail, the crew used three cameras running one hundred and twenty frames per second and one camera running three hundred frames per second. If they had filmed using a real time camera, the succession of the explosion would not be filmed in particular order.

1:42:05 Well, and it's important to keep in mind that when when things get smaller, yeah, the mass decreases, So the bigger something is, the slower it is able to move. So there's actually, I don't know it, but there's a Brett Piper actually taught me this. He's a guy who's all about stop motion animation and miniatures and stuff like that. He taught me that you can do a mathematical equation for what frame rate the camera should roll at in order to create the mass of the object. Okay, and it's why. One of my favorite examples of this is when Godzilla roars in the old Toho movies. I'm sure you probably remember that. There's always that moment where you're like, Oh, he's gonna do it, He's gonna do it. He goes Eh.

1:42:45 The reason for that long wait is because they had to speed the camera up to make him look like he has masks. Yeah, so when the actor in the suit is told like, now roar, that's gonna happen like seven seconds later because time is way, way faster. So that makes perfect sense. Two hundred and eighty seven people die in Flight one eighty disaster. The plane was built on a gimbal to make it shake. The plane was set. The plane set was later torn down and changed to Clear's top floor, which she runs through in the storm sequence. Oh nice, that makes sense. The flight charterboard in the airport was not part of the scene. It was a CGI effect. When everyone stares at Alex after the plane explodes, both Billy or both Terry and Billy's deaths are foreshadowed. While Terry is staring at Alex, there's a picture of a bus in the background.

1:43:29 While Billy is looking up at the plane taking off, the reflection of the plane is shown across his face. It is flying in line right where the piece of car decapitates him later in the film, That's perfect. Much of the news footage shown is actual footage from the July nineteen ninety six explosion and crass of TWA flight eight hundred off East Marches Long Island, New York. Oh wow. Yeah. The Alka Selter sequence which follows Terry getting hit by the bus had to be extended as test audiences were still recovering from shock. Yeah, that is now that you mention it. It's long. It's a bit long, which makes sense. It gives them a second to catch their breath and figure out what the hell's going on. Yeah. On his way to missus Luton's house, Alexy's ashes floating around his head, foreshadowing the fire. The exterior of miss Luton's house was built in five days. The residents of Vancouver didn't want the filmmakers to blow it up, as they thought it was a nice house.

1:44:16 That's the most Canada thing I've ever heard in my life. Obviously, hope you have to blow it up. Eh, it's pretty nice. Eh. The piece of glass that went into miss Luton's neck was from the computer was done backwards. They shot the glass being yanked away from her neck with a line which was digitally erased. Actress Kristen Kloak was put under a fake wooden floor with silicone body on top. This was so the knife couldn't pale the character without injuring the actor. I mean, you know, that's one way to do it. Now, That's why it's so effective, because you really see it just go in. Yeah. The train scene in which Carter's car is smashed by the train was one of the most difficult scenes to shoot. The car used for the crash was a replica of the original severed and half prior to filming. According to Sonderhoff, in order to ensure the safety of the actors, they had to make sure that there was no real sheet metal in the car.

1:44:59 Is absolutely true. Yeah, that would be really hard to do safely. In the opening scene, Devin Sawble was supposed to pretend to be asleep. He actually fell asleep for four hours. Well, good for him. Get your rest King. While Alex is sitting in his bedroom reading a magazine and Al lands on a tree branch outside the window. And many cultures, owls are viewed as omens of death. Hmmm. The scene where Carter elbows, Oh. Yeah, who's gonna die? Hooo oh No. The scene where Carter elbows Billy in the car was added in because the day of shooting, Sean William Scott had a sore lip. To hide it, the makeup team added blood and the end result was of Carter elbowing Billy. That's a nice way to hide that, yeh. Smart. In the last scene at the cafe, the sign that breaks Reey from its holding brackets spells one to eighty in.

1:45:42 Reverse, which is the name of the flight. That was one of my favorites because that one I really caught. Most characters of film are named after filmmakers or stars from black and white horror films. Terry Cheney was named after Lawn Cheney. Todd Wagner after director George Wagner, Alex Browning after director Todd Browning, Larry murnaw now after director F. W. Mornaw, who directed Do s Farratu, A Symphony of horror agent Shrek after Max Shrek who played in Nose Farratu, Blake Dreyer after Carl Theodor Dreyer who directed Vampire, Howard Siegel after Don Siegel, who directed Dirty Harry, Billy Hitchcock out after Alfred Hitchcock, and Valerie Luton after horror film producer of value. I whanted you be like Hitchcock after Bucky Hitchcock, who owned a chain of chicken restaurants in the nineteen sixties.

1:46:25 Considering his extensive knowledge of death design and how it works, many File Destination fans have theorized that William Bloodworth is the human personification of death, or at least comes some kind of representative for death. However, both Tony Todd himself and File Destination producers have denied that being true. So for the purposes of this theory, Bloodworth is a human being with no known connection to death itself. See well yes and no yeah. See to me, he had a poetic connection to death. He had a literal one yeah, because he sees death all the time, so he would have a better understanding of death in that he could be like, I see every type of person come through here. I see everyone I see people who you know, jog five out five miles a day to and eat only lettuce die of heart attacks. I see, you know everything. I see people who are eighty years old and did nothing but cocaine and fried chicken their whole lives, and they made it to eighty one and died, you know, peacefully in their sleep.

1:47:19 I just never know. That's what the vibe I got was not that he was literally supernatural. Yeah. Well, and and his creepy tone helps the movie. Yeah, it really sells a lot. I mean he, like I said, he's in the movie for four minutes if that, and steals that entire scene. Oh god. Yeah. The DVD features the following deleted scenes, a love scene between Alex and Clear on the beach, a pregnancy test which reveals that Clear is pregnant from having sex with Alex, and a third ending where Alex is electrocuted and dies after having their child. Clear has the gift of seeing death before it happens. Carter also survives. This was a New Line movie, right, you know why they cut out the pregnancy test, right? Was that h somebody there? It was probably bob Sha. Bob Sha was like, do you remember Nightmare on Elm Street five because what they learned from that movie was teens don't want to go and watch a movie about an accidental teen pregnancy.

1:48:09 Yeah, I mean they don't. The opening of five is still one of my all time favorites because it's just so unlike any of them. Oh for sure. Now there's a lot to like in five, even for all of its drawbacks. But I've always heard that that was the big thing was people were like, yeah, the teenagers don't want to come and see a movie about the penalties of teen sex. They do not. And finally, the film had major impact in the horror film audience, earning the Saturn Award for Best Horror Film in two thousand. Saw Will won the Saturn Award for Best Performance by a Younger Actor the same year, and Larder won the Young Hollywood Award for Breakthrough Performance by a Female. So what are your final thoughts on two thousand's final destination? I mean, it's at the very least a rent it.

1:48:50 But if you're a horror movie aficionado, this movie has become a classic without a doubt, without a doubt, and it spawned an incredible amount of sequels. I think that the best thing to do is buy a set. Yeah, so you could have all of them, because even if the other ones degrade in some degree of like own it quality. Yeah, having it all in one package just guarantees that if you ever really need a good excuse to eat a bag of popcorn, you're set. I mean. The impact of Final Destination is the fact that what is the number one scene that anybody remembers from the entire series, the log truck, which is in two. Yeah. So I mean yeah, I mean every time I see a truck full of logs, I'm like, I don't think so it's just I'm gonna get it. No, I mean it's it is a rent it with a caveat to buy it.

1:49:33 Because this is a very important franchise in in Horse cinema, but not just Horse and a Cinema entirely. I mean it was this This ran for a long time in the sense that it was a very popular franchise and still is. We're getting a sequel literally the end of this week. Yeah, we'll be talking about it next the follow us. We will. But yeah, I mean, this is this is a very important film and also, as we've you know, made this episode as an honor to Tony Todd. He is great in this and he's not in it very much, but just again that presence, I mean he was. He was a character actor that had a body to not had a body of work that went so many decades and never did I tire of seeing him in anything does matter?

1:50:14 I couldn't agree more. He was like, it was like bringing in a ringer. We need this scene to be chilling. Let's get Tony Todd. Yeah, yeah, I mean literally. His appearance in the Screen TV series, which is I think season three again another one of those campuises, which is the whole shit that's Tony Todd. Yeah, I mean so I like the season one and two more because three was was actually a revamped revamping. But he was my favorite part of it. Oh yeah, without a doubt. So we always liked on the show. With a couple of recommendations this week, I have two, starting with twenty eighteens Blumhouse is Truth or Dare Rentable currently on Prime and Fandango. A harmless game of Truth or Dare among friends turns deadly when someone or something begins to punish those who tell a lie or refuse to the Dare I really love that movie. Yeah, I need to revisit it. I remember when we walked out of the theater, I was like, damn, all right, dark ending.

1:50:58 But it has filled this nation, vibes to it all through it. It totally does. I mean. Yeah, the idea of some unseeable force getting revenge, yeah, I mean it's I think that very little anything that I'm not thinking of right now that did it first, Final Destination did it in the most memorable possible way. No, it absolutely did. And my second recommendation kind of astray for this one, But I think the general idea of not trying to die when death is for sure. Twenty twenty two is Fall, currently available on twov You can also rent it on Prime and fandango. When a high rise climb goes wrong, best friends Becky and Hunter find themselves stuck at the top of a two thousand foot TV tower. If you are afraid of heights, do not watch this movie.

1:51:41 Or if you're like me, if you are afraid of heights, watch this movie immediately. On a giant screen. Yes alone. God, dude, some of the shots in this movie are. Oh no, it's brilliant. It's so good in the theater. It was an incredible experience. I get nervous thinking about it. We're getting a sequel some point, Oh yeah, fall harder for harder. So what's your recommendation? My recommendation. We actually alluded to it earlier. It's nineteen eighty four Sole Survivor, because this is such an underrated great film. The IMDb synopsis is a lone survivor of Planyegrass is haunted by a feeling unworthy of a feeling unworthy of survival. Dead people start coming after her to collect her. And that's pretty much it. It's just the way it's done is so creepy and simple and scary.

1:52:26 You see a very very young Brink Stevens in it. This was like right after she did slumber Heady Raps. Yeah, And two things about this movie. Number one, I had never heard of it. I was literally hanging out one Friday night. It was just me and my buddy Jeff, our buddy Jeff, and I was flipping through shutter and I picked it at random. I think Joe Bob had wrapped it. Wasn't that it, I mean it wasn't the same night as No, we just it was only us, so Yeah, but I picked Soul Survivor because I'd never heard of it, and we were in a smasher trash like, Yeah, we would either keep watching it or we wouldn't. We watched it all the way through. We were shocked how much we liked it, how creepy it was, how scary it was. Sadly no longer on shutter, it is available to stream free on Fossome, which is awesome with an f yep, or you can rent it wherever you rent your movies.

1:53:11 But Soul Survivor is super creepy. But here's the thing people don't talk about enough about this movie. It is a dark, gritty, creepy, eerie movie directed by a guy named Tom Eberhart. In nineteen eighty four, Tom Eberhart made another movie that's much more famous and well known that is absolutely nothing like Soul Survivor. And I love this. Yeah. He directed Night of the Comet. No shit, the Comet is the most youthful, sunny, even though it's sad and dark, sunny, youthful, energetic, colorful, wild experience. Yeah. Same year he made one of the most like it was It's from eighty four. It feels like nineteen seventy seven.

1:53:55 It's very old school but very worth your time. I'm serious. We'll get my blue you can take it home. Let's your homework, young man. Sounds good, but yeah. Sole Survivor from nineteen eighty four is my suggestion. I do think there. It gives a little feeling a final destination, but it's very, very different. There is a movie that's an ospilitation that I've been wanting to get, and I think seven put out the blu Ray It may still have it at this point, called The Survivor, which is about a bus crash that happens and one person walks away or no, it's a plane crash. It's place. It's a plane crash out, oh okay, and one person walks away, and then all the survivors form into like vengeful beings to come after the one that was supposed to be with them. Nice.

1:54:35 Yeah, okay, So I'm dying to see that. So do we have any emails this week? I'll double check. But last I saw nobody loves us anymore? Sadness. We had so many emails for such a while. So yeah, nothing here today's week. But if you want to send us an email, yes, all you have to do is type in do you even movie pod at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from anybody who wants to write in, whether it's commenting on the movies we watched, telling us a movie we should watch, or whatever you want to want to send our way. We do appreciate that a whole lot. You can also just go to dooevenmovie dot com. There's a contact form. Every way to get a hold of us can be found there as well, and a fixed web store and a web store that works. Still nobody's used it, but it is up and running and running, so it does exist. And we do have a T shirt and coffee mug and a few other things that might just fend death away.

1:55:24 Not a guarantee, but don't put boiling liquid into that mug and then switch to cold liquid. No, I say do it because if it breaks, I will complain to the manufacturer for you. That's fair, yeah, because it should be able to. So would you like to know what we are talking about next week on the show? Well, I don't, I mean I guess so, since there's nothing I can do to stop fate. So we are kind of cheating next week. But we're cheating because of a listener request. We got a request from Nicole El who wanted to us to discuss nineteen seventy six is Carrie Oh with Sissy Spacek on the show for her birthday, which is I believe a couple days after. I want to say, well, I'll have that information for sure. I haven't written down, but yeah, Carrie currently available on Max, Hulu and Roku. This is going to pay tribute to two actually, because back in twenty twenty three we lost the great Piper Laurie, who originally was going to be the cheat for this in unfortunately and fortunately we also had a death recently from the film Priscilla Pointer passed a couple weeks back, and she plays the teacher in the film Wow. So we are gonna have two honors on that of nineteen seventy six Is Carrie, which I am excited to revisit. I have not seen that in a while. And between you and me, I might have a four K because Hubret Music and Video has one for sixteen ninety nine right now, and that's a really good price for the four K because the slipcover's fucked up. Ooh, so I might go pick that up.

1:56:39 Well, Hell's Bells and taco shell. Yeah. But yeah, we're gonna be talking about Kerrie next week on the show as we continue. May they rest in peace. It sounds pretty uh, I'll say good, even though it's really dark, really sad. So but thank you guys so much for joining us for another episode of Do You Even Movie? We do appreciate it. As I said, you can email us do You Even Movie Pod at gmail dot com or head to dooevenmovie dot com all information about the show. Yes, if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to leave a comment. We will respond if you're watching. Also, make sure you're subscribed. If you're listening to us, please consider leaving us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. You can also comment over on Spotify. And I do read and respond to all of them. And if they're pertinent to David, I can David in on it. Yeah. Yes, so that's all I have to say.

1:57:22 So I guess that's it. I guess that is it for this week. Yes, maybe maybe maybe, but so. I guess all that's left to say, my friends is. We will see you next. They're all gonna laugh at you. Oh god, I was gonna go with the you know you can't fight fate, but that works too. Oh man, plug it up, Plug it up,