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May 13, 2025

Final Destination (2000) The Fear of Fate – A Tribute to Tony Todd

Final Destination (2000) The Fear of Fate – A Tribute to Tony Todd
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Henrique and David continue their May They Rest in Peace tribute series with Final Destination (2000), James Wong’s supernatural horror thriller about fate, anxiety and survivor’s guilt. Devon Sawa stars as Alex Browning, a teenager whose premonition of Flight 180 exploding gets him and six others removed from the plane moments before the disaster. Ali Larter’s Clear Rivers believes him, while Kerr Smith’s volatile Carter Horton resists the idea that an invisible design now controls their lives.
The review follows death reclaiming the survivors in sequence through elaborate chains of cause and effect: Tod’s bathroom tragedy, Terry’s abrupt encounter with a bus and teacher Valerie Lewton’s escalating kitchen catastrophe. Tony Todd’s brief mortuary appearance as William Bludworth gives the movie its defining explanation of death’s design. The hosts celebrate how Todd makes a small role unforgettable, yet treat Bludworth as a knowledgeable human mortician rather than confirming the fan theory that he is Death.
Alex’s clues lead from John Denver warnings to Billy Hitchcock’s train-track death and Clear’s storm-lashed electrical finale. The hosts praise the movie for making ordinary objects threatening without showing a conventional monster, and they connect its sustained dread to flying fears, grief and the illusion of control. David recalls his sister helping turn the film into a memorable horror sleepover, while the JFK Airport opening still taps directly into travel anxiety. Their verdict lands between a strong rent-it and a buy-it recommendation for horror collectors.
Production talk traces Jeffrey Reddick’s concept from an unproduced X-Files story to a teen-horror screenplay by Wong, Glen Morgan and Reddick. The plane explosion combined a detailed miniature with high-speed photography, while the passenger-cabin set moved on a gimbal. The hosts also examine practical effects in Lewton’s death and the railway sequence, plus test-audience changes that gave viewers more time to process Terry’s sudden death.
The discussion preserves the abandoned Alex-and-Clear romance, including a discarded ending that electrocuted and killed Alex, and asks why the studio removed that emotional direction. The result is a Tony Todd tribute and franchise-origin deep dive into Final Destination’s cast, practical filmmaking, ingenious deaths and generational fear of fate.
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Why did you get off the plane? I got the feeling.

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I saw a plane. It's not finished my nose. Next,

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who are you guy?

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Now? Final destination Rated R.

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In a world where podcasts reign supreme, Two Friends dare

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to ask? Do you even?

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Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denyer.

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Spoiler alert. That makes me a little sad.

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Why is that?

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Well? You just pointed out that the gentleman who played

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Bob in the new Thunderbolts Marvel movie is Bill Pullman's son. Correct,

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that's awesome, But I'm I'm starting to get annoyed because

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so many actors that are like making a big splash

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right now are NEPO babies.

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This is a bad time to mention that. Why Russell

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Kurt Russell Sun was Captain America?

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I knew that, Okay, making sure, but that's my point,

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but not just in that, Like, think about for a

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second the substance got nominated for an Oscar. That actress

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is what's her name's daughter? Oh?

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Are you talking about a Whaley? Uh? What's her last name?

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Why can't I think of her name?

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Don't know? Maybe you don't like women?

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Shut up? That's not it.

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Oh so that doesn't have any effect on it.

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My god, stop it. You're gonna make me lose it.

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What is her fuck name?

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You have a computer?

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I wanted to look at it because I'm very ashamed

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because normally I know that name.

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Margaret Quality. Yeah.

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Quality.

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Yeah. I mean she's a NEPO baby yep. And you know,

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saying NEPO baby is a little harsh except that, I

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mean they are, like a lot of these actors are

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literally direct children of movie stars, and you know, having

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that access to show business is a big advantage.

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No, I mean absolutely is. But at the same time,

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I will say that at least they're giving good performances.

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I will, I will give that credit. I mean, yeah,

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the NEPO baby thing is is definitely a topic that

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is hot, right.

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I feel like it hasn't come up a lot lately.

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Like I didn't even know Margaret Qually that her mother was.

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I'm trying to remember her mother's name. I mean, I

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know where because she was in Scrooged and a bunch

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of stuff. Oh oh wait, or no, am I wrong?

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I say, are you no?

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I think I'm wrong? Okay, no, no, Yeah. Andy McDowell McDowell. Okay, okay,

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Andy McDowell was her mom. Yeah, took me a second

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to remember.

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And also, Andy mcdoll's not unscrewed. You're thinking that's Karen Allen.

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You're thinking of groundhog Day.

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envisioning groundhog Day. Yeah, like entire like I was totally

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off on that one, but I'm not. It just bummed

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me out because you everybody was so excited about like,

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oh man, and then they were so mad that, you know,

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the substance didn't win, you know, didn't win it.

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No, it is pretty good.

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But what all I'm saying is, but then it was like,

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but she's like the daughter of Hollywood people. Yeah, like majorly.

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director in major movies, you know, nobody was like, well, hey,

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his dad served at the Northeastern Correction Facility, let's get

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him on on a set.

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But sorry, will report that Mikey Madison is not a neo.

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Baby, I know, no, no, and and and that's not curious.

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Oh sure, well and that's not because my point isn't

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that there's nothing but nepo baby. Yeah, my point is

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that I'm surprised how many are like jad jack Quaid,

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who's in everything out and and that doesn't mean he's

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not great, but you know, But also then it's like,

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is this just an argument for eugenics? Yeah, Dave's like,

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where are you going with this? But no, no, like

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I don't. It's hard because it's not like I don't

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enjoy their performances, but there is a part of me

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that's like, your parents literally have such a massive foot

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in the door in this business. So it is a

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little hard sometimes to realize, like, oh, like the big

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indie you know, movie that everybody was rooting for was

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gonna like overturn the system. It's like they cast literally

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a famous person's kit.

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But then I guess my question would be, do you

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feel the same way on that track if like, for instance,

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Joe Hill, who submitted his work as Joe Hill, didn't

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tell anybody he was King's son until he was as

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signed author.

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Well that's I mean, first of all, I'm sure that

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probably still helped.

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I'm sure he had contacts and stuff from that. Yeah,

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it I think it's a a little different when you're

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writer a writer, maybe I mean, because when you're an actor,

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it's all about like your look and stuff like that.

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I think it would be less likely that Joe Hill's

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writing would heavily immediately remind people of Stephen King's writing

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compared to like, if they were actors, they'd be like,

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you remind me of somebody who was really good, you know,

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assuming that Stephen King were a good actor, which he's not.

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Oh no, I love you know, throughout my childhood those

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moments where I go, hey, that's Stephen King.

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When he the hitchhiker segment when he gets out of the.

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Guy got creamed lady or guy got cream man happens

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all the time? What happened to her? Guy got cream

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happens all the time? And he lights up a road flare. No,

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but it just it's just something that I've been thinking about,

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especially since Stranger Things when Ethan Hawk and Uma Thurman's daughter,

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who I feel bad I'm not remembering her name off

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the top of Mayahawk, Yeah Maya, yeah, yeah, Mayahawk. I

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felt back because when I found out she was literally

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daughter of two famous actors, I was like, man, you

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know and and it's funny because you know, they used

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to make fun of b movie makers when they would

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cast you know, Bruce Springsteen's sister or you know, the

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esteve as nobody seems to know. But you know, in

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this case, like I never once heard mention of of

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Margaret Qually's mother. Oh yeah, Like I had never heard

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a word about that.

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I think I only found out via an interview that

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she was talking about and her mom did get brought.

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Up well, and apparently Rainy Qually, her sister, is also

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an actress. I think she's a bit younger is she's

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born in nineteen ninety, so I think she's actually a

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little older. But oh yeah, yeah, she's been in a

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ton of stuff. But like, yeah, it's just I don't know,

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I don't know what I didn't have, like a point

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I was trying to brilliantly make about that. Yeah, but

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sometimes I do kind of go like wow, and I'm shocked.

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I'm just shocked. I don't hear more people talking about that.

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I feel like it was a hot topic there for

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a bit, like I because I feel like it was

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everybody had input on it that had kids in Hollywood,

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especially because like even Jamie Lee Curtis was like writing

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about NEPO babies at one point, because I mean she

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is one obviously, sure of course, so but.

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Yeah, and I think having the longevity of like a

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Jamie Lee Curtis is evidence of her talent. And also

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I want to say, it does not mean they're not talented. No,

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absolutely no, they just had a very very strong advantage.

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Yeah, very much.

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Yeah, but it's it's just an odd thing to think about,

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it is.

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But I mean, at the same time, I cannot put

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down the fact that, like, like I said that, that

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they're giving great performances, especially Lewis Pullman and Thunderbolts. I

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mean that performance really tugged my heart strings for a

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good bit.

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Sure, No, I agree, It's just yeah, it's just something

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that kind of pops into my head every now, and

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this is I'm like watching it, I'm like, oh wow,

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Like everything I'm watching is like two or three main

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characters are a famous person's kit.

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Well smile too, yeah, Jack Nicholson's son. And that was

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not hard to figure out.

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No, well, I mean it was very on the nose casting.

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So, and that doesn't mean that they're not going to

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be good or that they don't deserve it. It's just

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kind of like I remember when everybody was talking about

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Sydney Sweeney's family because you know, they're all normal Americans

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is a good way to put it. They're they're they're

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just not you know, California type people. Yeah, and she

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was just kind of like, well, I have to send

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money home, unlike a lot of the people that I

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got my start with in show business, whose families were

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financing their entire careers. Yeah, and getting them all the

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connections at the same time.

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So I don't know. I don't know, because like at

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the same time, like I I loved the performances of

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like Mayahawk's a phenomenal actress. Yeah, So I don't know.

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Well, I mean there is also the argument to be

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made that is it too much of a power to

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have that influence, because like one of the biggest ones

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I can think of is how everybody was shitting on

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Trap because they basically said that Shyamalan had given his

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daughter her own concert movie.

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I mean he did, yeah, but if you I mean yeah,

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but I will say no, no, no, Well, I mean when

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you get cast when your dad's the director, that's a

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whole other, whole thing. Yeah, that's that's just your dad

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wants to cast his kid. I don't that I see.

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I find that fine. It's more just the idea, like

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you could get a lot of meetings in Hollywood when

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when you have a parent tied into it. And that

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doesn't mean they shouldn't. I mean, we wouldn't have Bill

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and Ted's excellent Adventures if it wasn't for a degree

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of nepotism. Although from what I remember hearing, oh gosh,

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Alex Wonder or no, no, no, the guys who developed one

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of them was are you gonna kill me? Now? I'm

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having a little off day. I'm having a little yeah,

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a little off day concentration wise. Chris Matheson is is

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the you know, the famous writer, Uh, Richard Matheson. That's

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his That's that's his dad, is Richard Matheson, who wrote

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a ton.

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Episodes. Yeah, I mean Matheson is a big name.

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But what from what I recall, when he wrote the

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stuff for Bill and Ted, his dad sent it to

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like all his friends and they all were just like, uh,

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we got nothing for this. Yeah, so you know, it

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doesn't mean it'll guarantee to help you I forgot.

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That Matheson wrote Goofy movie. Mm hmm, forgot about that. Yeah.

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Well, and and that's the other thing is a lot

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of people don't realize Chris Matheson is Richard Matheson's kid.

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Yeah, so I don't know. Uh oh, rapture palooza.

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Also, he also wrote Mom and Dad Saved the World.

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I just saw that, yeah, which I've I've been wanting

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to revisit that, but it's been a good bit.

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That was.

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That was when I saw on TV. I don't even

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think I've ever seen an uncut I.

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Mean I saw it on on like HBO. Yeah, no,

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I love Mom and Dad Saved the World. That's one

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that will forever have a hot a soft spot in

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my heart because it was on HBO and Cinemax so much. Yeah,

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I saw it so many times.

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Well, I uh, it's funny with with Thunderbolts in particular

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having having the Nepa babies and whatnot. Because like I've

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been I've been thinking about what is that movie called?

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this is embarrassing.

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If you give me a general idea, I'll try and

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I'd say it is. It might just be gone. I

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can picture face. I talked about it when we were

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the flat Liners Flatliners like Julia Roberts and whatnot is

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isn't she a nipple baby? And whatnot? And and Sutherland

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is of course, and I'm Bacon is bacon one.

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I don't think Bacony.

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I don't think he would have started in Friday of

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the thirteenth if yeah, that's fair actually, but I could

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be wrong. I'll look into it, but I'm pretty sure now.

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But yeah, I feel like there was a lot of

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just there. There's always been NEPO baby movies, even if

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we didn't realize it. I mean matter.

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Juliet Roberts parents are Betty Lou Roberts and Walter Grady Roberts.

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Do you think to somebody else, I'm not sure that

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those are people in chow. For some reason, I thought

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flat Liners is a big Neppa baby movie. But now

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I'm if your southerl One's the only one I'm thinking

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of actually either way, and you know it well. And

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that's the other thing though, is like when when I

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was especially growing up, and to an extent, when you

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were growing up, it was a lot more common because

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the world was smaller. Yeah, you know, nowadays anybody anywhere

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can audition for anything. The pool of talent is much bigger,

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which means it's much more competitive. So when I see,

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you know, Nepo Babies in like a big indie movie

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that everybody's excited about, and I'm like, oh, they cast

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a famous person's kid, Okay, I mean I'm sure they're

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also talented. I mean I can't even think of an

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example where I've been like, why did they cast them?

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It's just after the fact of like, hey, that's so

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and so.

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I'm sure there's a couple that I that we could

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think of. But yeah, I mean, if they're not coming

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to our head directly, I think it's not anything a

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big issue in that regard.

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Hey what you leave Frank Stallone alone?

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on the radio station. We had that pulled aside in

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the file.

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Actually kind of just like Frank Stallone. I mean, he's

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not the greatest actor, but I like his presence.

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He was on those those VH one talking heads a

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lot back in the day.

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the what what spark this conversation was we were talking

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about Thunderbolts because we just got back from seeing it

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in the theater.

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Yes we did. Oh, I mean I I thought I

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had seen trailers for what would you say, easily like

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four months?

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Now, probably longer.

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Yeah, I wasna say, it's probably at least like half

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a year at this point.

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Yeah. Well, they it's easy to feel like it's hard

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to gauge how long you've been seeing trailers because they

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massively shifted the style and the mentality of the trailer. Yeah,

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about halfway through.

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Well, hell, that one trailer we saw was from the

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studio that brought you, and they weren't even saying Marvel.

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It was And they were like and from the set

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decorator from Hereditarian And I was like, oh, okay, I

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mean not lying, I was.

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I mean, I still I don't. I think I speak

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for a lot of people when it's just like we are.

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We are burned out on Marvel and have been for

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some time, but some of us may or may not

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have still been attempting to watch some of them. I

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can't tell you the last one I saw in theaters

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at this point.

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Didn't you see Deadpool?

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No? I didn't see Deadpol three. I waited. I waited

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until that came.

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You didn't see Deadpool Versus or Wolverine or whatever.

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I tried to it was sold out because I went

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to go see it the same day I saw Cuckoo

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and Last star Fighter for the first time, but that

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was Matt and a week and naturally, well, dead Deadpool

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Versus Wolverine was sold out. So yeah, I missed it

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in theaters. I saw the first two in theaters, but yeah,

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I think the last one I saw in theaters might

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have been Quantum Mania. No, No, it's way too a man.

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You weren't there for that one. That was you were sick.

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That was when Matt was buying tickets for us.

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Oh really, Oh we've seen stuff past past.

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Yeah, it better not be eternals.

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I'm checking the release listing if I can, because now

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I'm now you got me curious about when the last.

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Time we went, because I mean, it wasn't No Way Home.

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No, why what is this?

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I'm blanking like.

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Well, I know we saw Guardians Guardians three three, yeah,

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and I feel like there's something after that. That's what

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I'm trying to figure out. But it's not giving me

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a timeline. Yeah, I'm on the Marvel Studio Wikipedia and

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I can't seem to find it.

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But yeah, I mean I was. I was not against

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seeing this. It was just like I may see it

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or I may not. And I mean even you and

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I have been talking about for the last like couple

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of weeks that we've seen the trailers that just like

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you know what, wondering what it's gonna do and whatnot.

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I did not expect to go into this movie coming

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out liking it so much as I did.

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As I did, it was super fun.

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It was super fun, and it feels like that return

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to formula simplifying everything in a.

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Sense, Homie. Guardians three was the last one we saw. Wow,

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Because there was Guardians three. Yeah, then there was The Marbles, Marvels, yep,

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then Deadpool and Wouverine, then Captain America Brave New World,

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and then Thunderbolts. Wow. So May twenty three Wow.

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So two years. Yeah, so it's been two years. I

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didn't think it was that long. I didn't either, but

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at the same time, it kind of makes sense. But

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I mean, I will say too that I also really

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did like Black Widow. Thought it was a good, like

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shoot them up action movie. Didn't really didn't really play

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on Marvel aspect to me that much. It was more

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so just a good action movie. So I mean the

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fact that we brought some of those characters back for

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this movie, I was on board with that already, and

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I like Bucky, so that whole premise of it. I

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was just like, this could be fun. But yeah, I

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give this movie props for simplifying things, going back to

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a simple formula of here's your new heroes, here's the villain,

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and that was basically it for the most part.

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Well, they waited to give you a villain until late

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in the film.

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Half hour left of the movie basically.

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But I enjoyed it. Yeah, I was. I was really

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hoping it would be a fun time because I, you know,

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obviously had not seen a Marvel movie in quite a while. Yeah,

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and yeah, I mean I I pretty much after the Eternals.

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I don't think I saw another one until Guardians except

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for me the Spider Man, yeah one or whatever. Yeah,

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but but yeah, it just kind of it didn't do

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a lot of favors, no, so I yeah, I kind

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of checked out for a bit, but this one was

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a lot of fun. Yeah, I was hoping it would

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be at least funny, you know, keep that sense of

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humor going. I had a lot of good laughs. Yeah,

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And I it was refreshing to although it was kind

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of a threat to the whole world, it wasn't played

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up that way that way and it could have been there.

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And I think that they also kept the kept the

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breakout small even with it with just being on the city,

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but monumental enough to be to see that threat. So

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I mean we kind of saw where it was going,

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but at the same time, they kept it on that

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island well.

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And I remember when when the first of the newer

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Spider Man movies came out, the ones with Tom Holland, yep,

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I remember being so refreshed by that only New York

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City was going to like, was the only place a

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threat and it wasn't the whole world.

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Yet again, Homecoming is still so much fun.

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All those movies, all those Tom Holland and Spider Man's

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are excellent, super fun. So it was cool to see.

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It makes me kind of want to see what they

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do next, which I now that I realized I took

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over two year break, that makes sense. Yeah, I didn't.

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I really had no idea to been that well.

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Mine, They wiped the slate at one point for just

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Deadpool and Thunderbolts, like that was basically the I mean,

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Brave New World was on there too, but that was

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still finishing out a timeline or continuing a current. When

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I can't remember this.

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That's I believe that's that's the beginning of phase five. Yeah.

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So I mean, yeah, the fact that like we are

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getting a new Avengers supposedly, and it looks fun to

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this extent, like I am back on board with with

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at least this first movie. Yeah, and I hope they

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can keep this going.

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Yeah. I hope so too, because I used to really

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look forward to them. I mean there was, man that

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that lead up, the entirely ten year lead up to

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Endgame was an incredible time to be a movie lover.

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I remember being in Suncoast when I was working in

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Avengers came out. First off, our manager put all our

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copies in the safe because she was so worried about

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them getting stolen because like we got them like two

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weeks for the release or whatnot.

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That would be a big deal if they got stolen there.

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Yeah, so there was that. But then also I watched

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that movie so much because of being at work, and

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that was like all we played naturally when it came out.

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So when I actually finally got to sit down and

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watch it as an actual movie and not just in

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the background of me working, I'd already seen it like

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easily twenty times.

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That's a good one to be forced on you, though,

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because it's very quotable. It's got a lot of good moments.

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Do they ever tell you the story of how I

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saw the first Avengers?

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I remember, yeah, when it was Jeff, wasn't it.

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Yeah, But my cousin Jeff, who at the time was

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working in another state. He and I are huge movie fans,

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and he was like, dude, you've got to see Avengers.

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And I was like, I don't like superhero movies. I

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hadn't seen a single Marvel movie up until that point,

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except maybe I might have seen Iron Man. And he

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was like, dude, you don't understand. It's not like that.

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It's great, and I was like ah, And then he

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literally was like, I will PayPal you the price of

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a ticket if you'll go see it right as soon

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as you can.

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That's what I remember.

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And this was right when I first moved back around

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that maybe at first two years I was back in Ohio,

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so I literally paypaled me because I was broke. I

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think I hadn't even gotten a job. So it was

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probably the first like eight months I was here. It

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was really hard to find a job.

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Yeah, it would have been like twenty twelve, yeah, for

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eleven twelve, yeah.

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I think it was eleven. Yeah, And I literally he

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just sent me the money. So I literally walked into

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my car and I went straight to the theater and

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I saw it on Saturday by myself and walked out

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and I was like, goddamn, that was awesome. So he

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was right. He was right, And then from then on

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I was trying to catch as many of them as

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I could.

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I mean, there's no denying that the first like ten

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fifteen movies in the in phase phase one. I don't

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even know how long Phase one is at this point.

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Well, I think we went up to Phase three. Was

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the end was an endgame, I think.

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Because I really love the Iron Man movies, really really

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like the Hulk of the Incredible Hulk movie that they did,

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but they wouldn't even know that. I know that wasn't included.

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But like the early ones that they did, I still

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enjoyed it. Even going back and looking at Angley's Hulk,

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Angley's Hulk has.

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A lot to like. I would agree with that. Yeah.

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So I mean, I'm I'm anxious to see where they

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go with this. I think Julia Louise Dreyfus is amazing

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in this movie.

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Amazing, very interesting as a quasi villain. Yeah, very interesting.

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I mean in the best way. She's very good. Yeah,

466
00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:05.519
and it was cool seeing her. You don't really see

467
00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:08.000
her be a villain very much, No, you don't. And

468
00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:09.960
I imagine if she ever has played a villain, it

469
00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:12.440
was probably cartoony. This was not cartoony.

470
00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:15.200
No, I mean cartoony. Also David Harbor having a blast

471
00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:16.920
in this movie as well, who's having a great year.

472
00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:21.880
I mean, you know, I'm sure that anytime he thinks

473
00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.000
about how that one hell Boy movie does, he just

474
00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:27.920
gets into his swimming uv on water.

475
00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:32.039
Now. So it's not Hellboy's not a bad his his

476
00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.599
version of Hellboy's not a bad movie. It's just not

477
00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.000
a good movie. It's it's fun and it's really really

478
00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:42.160
gory and really like has some pretty uh heinous moments,

479
00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.920
like revealing a Babba yaga that has eaten children. Pretty

480
00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:47.440
pretty heinous moment in that movie.

481
00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:49.160
Well, I mean he is a boy of hell.

482
00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:51.200
Yes, he is a boy of Hell. So but yeah,

483
00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.279
I enjoyed it. I've seen it one time and I

484
00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:55.240
don't know if I'll ever see it again. But it's fun.

485
00:21:57.599 --> 00:21:59.839
Yeah, heard Dave first hates it.

486
00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.039
Selling point, even though I have it at my voodoo forever,

487
00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:05.079
because that was the days of Black Friday and getting

488
00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:06.880
those movies for like five dollars that still had the

489
00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:07.519
codes in them.

490
00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:10.839
You have it until the heat death of the universe, yeah,

491
00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:12.519
in which case this point, Yeah.

492
00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:14.400
That also means you know, now we have Extreme Justice

493
00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.839
and HD until they possibly give us a disc release.

494
00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:20.559
I mean, you never know. Now, there's so many things

495
00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:22.960
coming out that you would never think LD coming out on.

496
00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.720
Dis Dangerous Touch Extreme Justice.

497
00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:29.680
That would be a beautiful, glorious double feature. It really

498
00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:31.559
would be, and it would make my birthday.

499
00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:32.640
Yeah, so there we go.

500
00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:35.160
I should just uh should text Ryan over a terror

501
00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:38.960
vision and be like, you know, September's coming right up,

502
00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.039
and I know that's not enough time to get this done,

503
00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:42.559
but please.

504
00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:44.680
Yeah, he would be the one to do it, wouldn't he. H.

505
00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:45.640
I mean, he'd be one.

506
00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:50.200
Well, I think Lionsgate put out Extreme Justice recently.

507
00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:53.319
I want to say, yeah, but they're they're just barely

508
00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:54.559
keeping Vestron alive.

509
00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:55.599
So that's true. True.

510
00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:57.680
I don't know they did just Sonnow it's May, and

511
00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:00.000
I'm pretty excited about that. Oh they're putting oh yeah

512
00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.680
on Vestron restaurant. Yeah, so I mean no, I mean,

513
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:04.920
I don't know if well that could kind of fit.

514
00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:06.920
I don't know, see what happens.

515
00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:10.400
But at the end of the day, what we're really

516
00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:13.400
talking about is the fact that you can't fight fate,

517
00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:18.160
whether it's the fate of the universe, yeah, or the

518
00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:23.359
fate of physical media. Yes, But tonight we're talking about

519
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:25.480
a movie all about fighting fate.

520
00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:27.880
That we are, That we are, Yes, we have are

521
00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:30.640
continuing May they Rest in Peace month tonight as we

522
00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.279
are going to be paying tribute to the late great

523
00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:37.279
Tony Todd who left us last year and talking about

524
00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:40.079
Final Destination from two thousand.

525
00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:44.400
And while Todd's part and it is somewhat small, yeah,

526
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:48.480
very memorable, Yes, very memorable. When I was rewatching it,

527
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.200
it had been a long time, probably five seven, eight years, yeah,

528
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.119
and I was just like, damn, Tony Todd.

529
00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:56.279
In the movie for maybe four to five minutes max,

530
00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:58.640
and then he makes an appearance in the next one.

531
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:03.000
I think he came back in one, two, three, and

532
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:04.119
then I think he came back in five. I don't

533
00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:06.759
think he's in four. I'll review it in is a

534
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:08.799
filmographing here in a bit? But yeah. Final listenation from

535
00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.119
two thousand one hour in thirty eight minutes. Rated R

536
00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:17.480
for violence and terror and for language Terror terror, terror

537
00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:22.319
not the terror. Oh well, I mean all this movie

538
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.319
is missing is Dick Miller coming out and explaining the

539
00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:25.359
entire movie at the end.

540
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:26.920
I mean, that's kind of what the last scene of

541
00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.039
Final Destination is as much as I do, the kind

542
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.440
of just there like anyway in case you didn't get it.

543
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:37.200
But uh, but and there is language, both English and

544
00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:37.839
French and.

545
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:40.960
French indeed, yes, I interview. Synopsis for this says, after

546
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:44.160
getting a premonition about a plane crash on his school trip, Alex,

547
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.400
a student, saves a few of his classmates. However, the

548
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:50.839
situation gets complicated when death starts chasing them. Makes me

549
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:52.640
think of just like a grim reefer with a sithe though.

550
00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:55.759
But back here, guys, come on.

551
00:24:57.079 --> 00:24:59.759
My synopsis says when a premonition of a plane crash saved.

552
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.640
The saves the lives of Alex and five classmates, all

553
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:04.759
of them begin to question if destiny can be changed.

554
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.839
As the survivors begin to meet grizzly demises one by one.

555
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:11.839
I feel like the PAM mean they're the same pictures.

556
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:14.319
I mean they're both they both serve a good purpose. Yeah,

557
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:14.880
you did good?

558
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:17.039
All right? Well, are you ready to get into the taglines? Because,

559
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:20.240
oh boy, this week we got some tagline. Apparently this

560
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:25.359
film is just maggotty with maggotty starting with most people

561
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.079
have dreams for Alex. This is real.

562
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:35.759
I mean that applies to the first section of the film,

563
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:37.000
So I guess that works.

564
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:40.279
Face your deepest fears before they face you.

565
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:44.720
I don't like that one because it's not fear coming

566
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:49.839
for you. It's death itself. It's destiny. Death is the

567
00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:56.559
final destination. Boarding starts now. I have to a half

568
00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.799
point deduction for using the title of the film in

569
00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:00.160
your tagline.

570
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.799
In the best twisted tradition of the Twilight Zone.

571
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.240
That must have been like on home video. That must

572
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:08.880
have been like on the VHS tape.

573
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.160
A film that decapitates scream three.

574
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.920
Ok okay, I'd like to know the source of some

575
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:18.359
of these.

576
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:25.200
On March seventeenth, figure out when it's coming back at them. Wow,

577
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:28.480
invention or intervention comes at a price.

578
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.240
I mean that makes sense, But what Jesus?

579
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:38.599
No accidents, no coincidences, no escapes. You can't cheat death.

580
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:40.440
No escapes?

581
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:41.640
Yeah, no escapes?

582
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:44.960
What the hell is going on with these taglines?

583
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.200
Death doesn't take no for an answer.

584
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:49.880
I like that one. That's a good one. That's a

585
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:50.480
solid one.

586
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:51.680
Can you cheat death?

587
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:53.480
That one's pretty good too.

588
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:58.039
Death is coming. I mean, to your little townshriff.

589
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:09.279
That one's fine. I'll see you soon. What next stop?

590
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.920
It's you that one? I kind of like his Final Destination?

591
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.519
So next stop? Okay, that one's all right.

592
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.839
And finally, are you ready to match wits with the

593
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:25.240
Grim Reaper or are you ready for Fox DVD video?

594
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.680
I will say they go downhill quick quick quick quick wow.

595
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:35.519
Wow wow.

596
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:39.240
Out of fourteen, we have about two, maybe one and

597
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:40.240
a half. It's a winner.

598
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.839
I mean, you know, uh, there were a couple okay

599
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:45.839
ones toward the end. It's just a few of them.

600
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.279
I'm just like, what, so Final Destination currently available to

601
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.559
stream on Max You can also rent it or buy

602
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.240
it through Prime, Fandango or anyway you get your videos at.

603
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.039
There's also a currently I think it's on sale for

604
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:58.839
I want to say, like twelve bucks. There's a four

605
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:00.880
film Blu ray pack, and they also just release the

606
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.559
entire collection too, but the four pack is on sale

607
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:04.000
right now.

608
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.799
Nice No and I it's a great addition to any

609
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:08.759
horror fans collection.

610
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.759
It is absolutely director and writer. One of the writers

611
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:13.880
on the film is James Wong. He directs The Final

612
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.160
Destination in two thousand, which he also has a screenplay

613
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:18.799
credit on The One with Jet Lee in two thousand

614
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:20.920
and one, which he also is the writer on Final

615
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:23.160
Destination three in two thousand and six. He also writes

616
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.839
and directs Dragonball Evolution two thousand and nine, Tower Prep,

617
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.720
The Event, X Files twenty eighteen. He's a writer on

618
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.599
as well as directs, and most recently Nine to eleven

619
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.000
or Excuse Me nine one one in twenty twenty one.

620
00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:37.599
He writes and directs on as well. Other things that

621
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.079
he's written or has writing credits on include The Boys

622
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:43.279
next Door from nineteen eighty five, So Charlie Sheen, serial

623
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:47.400
killer thriller Nice uncredited on Trigger Treat nineteen eighty six,

624
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.599
Wow Yeah, night Watch nineteen eighty eight. Also writes on

625
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:54.480
Booker in nineteen ninety, twenty one, Jump, street Wise Guy,

626
00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:58.279
The Commission, Space Above and Beyond, Millennium, The Lone Gunman,

627
00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:02.039
The Event, Rosemary's Baby, Make in twenty fourteen, and American

628
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:03.319
Horror Story in twenty nineteen.

629
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.000
It did like Space Above and Beyond. That's the one

630
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.160
I haven't heard from. A long time writer.

631
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.680
Also on is Glenn Morgan, who also gets credited on

632
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.519
Boys next Door, uncredited on Trigger Treat, Nightwatch, Booker, same

633
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.880
thing basically, but where mister Glenn Morgan differs, and you

634
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:20.720
probably know this is In two thousand and three, he

635
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:24.200
writes and directs the remake for Willard, Oh Yeah, Black

636
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.680
exmus writer director in two thousand and six, Yes, By

637
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:32.680
No Way, Okay, The Event twenty eleven, The River, Those

638
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:35.839
Who Kill. He's a developer on Intruders, He's developer on

639
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:39.319
Rosemary's Baby in twenty fourteen, Lore in twenty seventeen, writes

640
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.359
on The X Files in twenty eighteen, American Horror Story

641
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.519
twenty nineteen, Twilight Zone, and most recently, Almost Paradise in

642
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:48.519
twenty twenty three, and our last writer is Jeffrey Reddick.

643
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.920
On the film. He gets writing credit for the screenplay

644
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:53.640
a Final Destination in two thousand, but in two thousand

645
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.200
and one he crafts Returned to Cabin by the Lake.

646
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:02.359
Hey, now we're cooking. I those movies, they're so I

647
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.079
guess they're underrated at this point.

648
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:04.319
Yeah.

649
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.640
I don't hear a lot about them. Don't let anybody

650
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:07.400
say I don't like them.

651
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:10.599
They were on Lifetime, they were on Sci Fi, they

652
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:13.319
were on USA back in the day, and they got

653
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:15.799
basically left on DVD and have not seen a release.

654
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:17.640
So you can find him on YouTube so you can

655
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.480
watch them. But if you have not seen Cabin by

656
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.519
the Laker, return to Cabin, like with Judd Nelson, really

657
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.200
really fun directive direct to TV movies.

658
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.400
I wouldn't be surprised if part of the problem is

659
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.799
there's no film cut, there's no film print rather, so

660
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:34.960
you'd have to re edit them entirely, which can slow

661
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:35.359
things down.

662
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.319
Ryan about those, Actually, I didn't think about that.

663
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:39.119
So.

664
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:42.359
Jeffrey Reddick also is a story credit on Final Destination

665
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.519
two Tamara in two thousand and five, Final Destination three

666
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:47.000
in two thousand and six, The Day of the Dead

667
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.799
remake Ina. He gets screenplay credit on the Final Destination.

668
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.440
He gets character credit on Final Destination five character credit

669
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.720
Goods samerited in twenty fourteen, The Final Wish in twenty eighteen,

670
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.599
Midnight Texts in twenty eighteen, Don't Look Back twenty twenty,

671
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:00.799
A Tale of Dark and Grim tent twenty one, and

672
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.119
most recently, character credit on Final Destination, blood Lines twenty

673
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:04.599
twenty five.

674
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:05.960
Yeah, which comes out really soon.

675
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.920
Yeah comes out this week this week.

676
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:09.440
I don't know what the fight.

677
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:10.519
Don't know what that was.

678
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:11.839
That was a little worriesome.

679
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.519
A cinematographer on the film is Robert McLachlan. He gets

680
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.240
to start direct as director of photography on Abducted in

681
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.400
nineteen eighty six, Calgary eighty eight, Eighteen Days of Glory

682
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:24.200
at eighty nine, Neon Ryder, The Beach Coms in eighty eight,

683
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:27.359
Mcguiver in ninety one, The Odyssey in ninety two, Commission

684
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.880
ninety three, Win The val Breaks in ninety five, Strange

685
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.039
Luck in ninety six, Millennium Final Destination in two thousand.

686
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.079
He also shoots the High Noon remake in two thousand,

687
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.279
The Lone Gunman, The One Which at Lee in two

688
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.160
thousand and one, Willard in two thousand and three, Tarzan

689
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.279
in two thousand and three, True Calling, Cursed King's Ransom,

690
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:47.519
a little Thing called Murder, Final Destination three, Black Eximss

691
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.839
in two thousand and six. He also shoots Nice Bionic

692
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.519
Woman in two thousand and seven, Dragon Ball Evolution, Harper's

693
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:55.359
Island in two thousand and nine, The Boy Who Cried

694
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.920
Werewolf twenty ten, Human Target, The Secret Circle, West World Series,

695
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.160
Game of Thrones, The Affair, Ray Donovan, Batwoman, Love Lovecraft,

696
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:08.240
Country Shining Girls, American Jigglo series nineteen twenty three, Shot

697
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.839
Yellowstone in twenty twenty four, and most recently Landman in

698
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:11.839
twenty twenty four as well.

699
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.000
Yeah, he got into that TV pipeline and it's smart.

700
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:16.880
I mean where that's where you'll make a lot of

701
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.119
money as a director of photography. Yeah, no, kidding, Yeah,

702
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.559
he It's clear his trajectory once the two thousand started,

703
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.920
he just kept going up and up and up and up.

704
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:26.680
I love the fact that he stayed with his writing

705
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:28.799
partners though, too, and shot their stuff, which is really cool.

706
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:29.359
That is cool.

707
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.799
I like that cast includes Devin Sawa, who plays Alex

708
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:34.680
Browning in the film. He gets a Start in nineteen

709
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.319
eighty nine and unsub then goes on to do Sherlock

710
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.400
Holmes return to ninety three NERF Commercials, Various Ones in

711
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:44.039
ninety three, Over That The Odyssey in ninety two, Little Giants,

712
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:47.599
previous episode in ninety four, Yes, Casper in ninety five,

713
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.680
Now and then Knight of the Twisters, The Boys Club,

714
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.920
Wild America, SLC Punk, Idol Hands Final Destination in two thousand,

715
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.000
then goes on to be in the Guilty the Stand

716
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.799
music video by eminem in two thousand, Slackers Extream Ops,

717
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:03.480
Spider Man series in two thousand and three, Extreme Dating

718
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.400
in two thousand and four, whoa Devil's Den in two

719
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:10.200
thousand and six, Ncis Los Angeles, Endured The Philly Kid

720
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.039
Nikita in twenty thirteen, A Warden's Ransom, Exorcism of Molly Hartley,

721
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:17.359
Life on the Line, Broad Squad, Punk's Dead, sc Punk

722
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:20.880
two in twenty sixteen, Hawaii five Oh, Escape Plan, The Astractors,

723
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:26.920
and then in twenty nineteen, alongside alongside the directing of

724
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:30.799
Fred Durst, he stars in the Fanatico.

725
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.920
I Forgot he was in that Yeah Yeah, not a

726
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:34.599
terrible movie.

727
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:36.599
That one bad t both does fun in it, Oh

728
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.680
for sure. Yeah, jar Head, Law of Return in twenty nineteen,

729
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.880
mc Guiver twenty twenty, Black Friday, twenty twenty one, Magnum

730
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.720
p I Hacks Chucky series, Murder in a Small Town,

731
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.200
and most recently this year was in twenty twenty five's

732
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:48.680
Hard Eyes.

733
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.119
Yes he was. He was very well executed in that.

734
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:53.559
Yeah, spoilers, that's good.

735
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:56.759
That's a good Oh yeah, uh, spoiler alerts. Some people

736
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:58.960
die in Hard Eyes. You what the best part about

737
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.759
that is it doesn't really spoil any No, it doesn't

738
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:02.519
because is he the killer? Is he not?

739
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.640
Well, you don't know. Ali Larder, who plays Clear Rivers

740
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.039
in this gets Her started in nineteen ninety six on

741
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:12.440
Suddenly Susan, Chicago's Suns in ninety seven, Chicago Hope, Just

742
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.840
Shoot Me, Dawson's Creek in ninety eight, Varsity Blues ninety nine,

743
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.719
Drive Me Crazy House in Haunted Hill Final destination in

744
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.320
two thousand, Legally Blonde, American Outlaws, Jane Silent Bob strike

745
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.079
Back Final Destination two. In two thousand and three, Three

746
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.000
Way Entourage A Lot Like Love, Confess Resident Evil Extinction

747
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.840
in two thousand and seven, Obsessed Heroes, Resident Evil, Afterlife,

748
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.000
The League, Love Sick, You're Not You in twenty fourteen, Legends, Residentevil,

749
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.400
The Final Chapter, Curb Your Enthusiasm, The Rookie Creepshow TV

750
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:43.239
series in twenty nineteen, oh Ye Last Victim in twenty

751
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:44.880
twenty one, The Man with the White Van in twenty

752
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:46.920
twenty three, Spin the Bottle in twenty twenty four, and

753
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.400
also recently in twenty twenty four, Landman, Hot, Damn Yeah, Curse. Smith,

754
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.559
also playing Carter Horton in this film, gets his start

755
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:56.960
in ninety seven as Ad The World Turns, Bait Watch

756
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.000
in ninety eight, Hit and Runway, The Broken Hearts Club,

757
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.760
The Final Destination in two thousand, CSI in two thousand,

758
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.800
The First Saken in two thousand and one, The knockoff

759
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.400
Vampire Movie That Wanted to Be Lost? Boys. Do you

760
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:07.880
remember that?

761
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:08.599
I Remember that?

762
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:13.000
Yeah? With Jonathan Shake The Outer Limits of two thousand

763
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.440
and one, Pressure two thousand and two, Critical Assembly, Dawson's Creek,

764
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:21.000
Cruel Intentions three in two thousand and four, Charmed CSI, Miami,

765
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:24.440
The Closer, Justice CSI New York, My Bloody Valentine three

766
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.440
D in two thousand and nine, Eli Stone, The Forgotten Life,

767
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:31.719
Unexpected ncis where Hope grows, Criminal Minds Stalker, Agents of

768
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:35.320
Shield Doubt in twenty seventeen, The Fosters n cis La

769
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:39.519
Into the Dark Pilgrim in twenty eighteen. He's the Dad,

770
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.519
Yes he is, Yes he is Riverdale in twenty twenty

771
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.079
and twenty twenty one he was also on the Resident

772
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.960
and bringing up our cast conclusion. Naturally the man we

773
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:52.800
are paying tribute tonight, the Great Tony Todd, who plays

774
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.960
William Bludworth in the film, Yes, two hundred and fifty

775
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.800
one credits on his resume. Not surprised at all, I'm sure.

776
00:35:58.920 --> 00:35:59.840
No, not at all.

777
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.599
Gets his start in nineteen eighty six on Sleepwalk and

778
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.519
then goes on to be in Platoon the same year,

779
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.679
and I mean Terry Territory in eighty seven, twenty one,

780
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.199
Jump Street, eighty seven, Colors, Lean On Me, Criminal Justice,

781
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:14.360
Night a Living Dead ninety, Cop Rock, Candy Man in

782
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.880
ninety two, then goes on to do Excessive Force in

783
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:17.480
ninety three.

784
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.880
Do you think do you think it was Night ninety

785
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.679
that got him kind of pushed into the being a

786
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:26.239
leading man? Or do you or do you think this

787
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.920
Candy Man. I mean, obviously they both had an effect.

788
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.440
They're closed, and I'm wondering, like, did that get him

789
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:32.079
Candy Man.

790
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:34.400
I feel like he has a very strong presence in

791
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.599
ninety obviously, yeah, And I think it probably took attention

792
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:39.400
to that. And I mean that nineties probably got him

793
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:39.920
Candy Man.

794
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:41.800
I would That's what I mean. It's just like, because

795
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:45.320
obviously candy Man is what like rocketed him to, at

796
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.920
the very least in the realm of horror movie fans,

797
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:48.920
being a superstar.

798
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.000
Well, but then I would hope that excessive force got

799
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:52.159
him The Crow in ninety four.

800
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.760
Oh, of course it did. Well. It was no force

801
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.119
on force successive Force two.

802
00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:58.800
It was not you know, it was not the Crow

803
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.000
in ninety four, Candy Man. Farewell to the Flesh in

804
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:03.559
ninety five, which I think is a really really good

805
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:05.639
movie and does not get enough credit as a sequel.

806
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:09.320
For one, maybe that should be your birthday, I mean,

807
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:10.559
I like it that much. I don't know about that.

808
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:12.320
I mean, we canna do Day of the Dead three

809
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.360
Star trek DS nine and ninety six, The Rock in

810
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:19.400
ninety six, NYPD Blue Wish Master Star trek Voyager. We

811
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.480
also have a Candy Man Day of the Dead ninety nine.

812
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:26.159
Then he does Final Destination, appears on Angel Smallville Charmed

813
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:30.320
Final Destination two, the Prophecy Forsaken, Final Destination three Hatchet,

814
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.400
which is one of my favorite roles because him is

815
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.159
the is the voodoo host of the Walking Tour, telling

816
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.239
that scary story and being like and then they slipped

817
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.599
and cracked their head on my goddamn curb and sued

818
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:40.159
me to Kingdom.

819
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:43.639
Come. No, he's so good that you don't get to

820
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.519
see him, get to just kind of go off very often. No,

821
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.280
but when he does, he's so much he's incredible. Have

822
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.159
you heard the stories about how he does takes? So

823
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.760
I had heard from some filmmaker who directed him that

824
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:01.320
if you don't give him any specific ideline, like if

825
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:03.079
you say, let's let's do one more and see how

826
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.840
it goes. You know, if you don't say one more

827
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.039
this time this, if you just said one more, let's go,

828
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.760
he'll never do it the same way. He'll assume you

829
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.360
want something different, so he'll do it. So if you

830
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.840
roll on him seven times without saying anything.

831
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:18.840
You get seven different performances.

832
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.840
I mean He'll go from like whispering almost the whole thing,

833
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:23.840
to like moving a lot, to not moving at all,

834
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.199
to like very serious. They said, It's a really interesting

835
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.639
way that he works because his thing is he's trying

836
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:31.920
to just kind of find what you like, Yeah, I mean,

837
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:33.159
which is an actor's.

838
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.639
That's one thing that as I was reviewing his resume

839
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:37.039
that I picked up on to you that I was

840
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.760
just like, wow, he does have different I mean an

841
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.440
actor obviously, but he has different stages of Tony Todd.

842
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:44.360
Like It's just like, I mean, he can be that

843
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.480
over the top Tony Todd, he can be the subdued

844
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:47.920
candy man Tony Todd, oh.

845
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:49.880
Yeah, and he can also subtlety really well with that

846
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:51.320
deep voice he's got.

847
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.400
And he can also be freaking hilarious like he is

848
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:53.920
in Holliston.

849
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:57.199
Oh no, I'm Holliston allowed a lot of those guys

850
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.599
to really show off how funny they were, and I

851
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:03.280
think it benefited Tony Todd and and and Kane Hotter.

852
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:06.840
But Kane Hodder didn't do a lot of stuntman.

853
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.119
And nearly Mears Derek Muirs got to shine old. Oh yeah,

854
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:10.280
But I mean.

855
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.119
Derek Mears was a improv guy. So, I mean he

856
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.960
had people even though not a lot. Yeah, people had

857
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.880
seen it, but Tony Todd, we never got to see

858
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:23.480
him be that outrageously funny. I mean, he's truly hilarious.

859
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.159
And while I've never like had dinner with the man,

860
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:28.440
I had seen him at many conventions, at many shows,

861
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.280
and he was always making people laugh. Yeah, very very

862
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:31.840
funny guy.

863
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.079
I did get to meet him one time. It's been

864
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:38.119
probably a little over a decade, maybe right about a decade.

865
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.159
He was at Scarefest one, so I got got to

866
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:41.920
meet him. That's awesome, very nice guy.

867
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.440
No, I don't know anybody that had a negative word

868
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.079
to say about him even when he was with us.

869
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:48.599
Yeah. So he does Masters of Horror, Vallery on the

870
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:50.440
Stairs in two thousand and five, The Man from Earth,

871
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:54.239
Boston Legal, twenty four, Transformers, Revenge of the Fallen, The Graves,

872
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.280
Hatch At two, Final, Destination five, and twenty eleven, Holliston

873
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.000
in twenty twelve Sushi Girl, The Young and the Wrestler,

874
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.360
which found out he has eighteen episodes like he was

875
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.280
on eighteen episodes Young and the Restless as a character.

876
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.400
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I mean he he people

877
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.800
wanted to keep him wherever he went. That's why he

878
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.079
was in Star Trek Deday's nine and Voyager. Yeah, because

879
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.840
he was so well liked. Of course, then the example

880
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.280
of being almost too well liked on DS nine would

881
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:25.000
be would be Jeffrey Combes, who played ended up playing

882
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.840
two recurring roles on DS nine two two Brunt and Wayun.

883
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.800
If you know d S nine you'll know, but literally two.

884
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:34.199
Yeah.

885
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.880
And even when I got the chance to work with him,

886
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.639
we were talking about DS nine because once I mentioned

887
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.079
that that was one of my favorite things he'd done,

888
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:43.559
he was just like super excited to talk about it.

889
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.320
But he mentioned that. At one point they were like, hey,

890
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:49.159
we're gonna make Wayoun like a recurring thing. And he's like, oh,

891
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:51.280
that's great. And then he got some pages and they

892
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.400
were like you brought Brunt back and he was like yeah.

893
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.360
He was like, but I played Brunt and he was like,

894
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.400
well we yeah. He was like, so I'm two recurring

895
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.000
roles this season and they were like, yeah, is that

896
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.519
a problem. He's like, no, not at all.

897
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.400
Does he get double the pay for two recording?

898
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.639
I mean I would just well, I'm assuming you get

899
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.280
paid for the day, so he's working twice as much

900
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.559
for sure. Andy's in Yeah. I remember he was in

901
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:14.480
both of those characters for at least four to six

902
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:15.239
hours of makeup too.

903
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:16.920
Yeah, no shit, so.

904
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.480
But uh and he was great now but yeah, Tony Todd,

905
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.199
I remember when he popped up on DS nine because

906
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.320
I was already a fan from the horror movies he

907
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:27.480
had done and stuff. He plays an adult version of

908
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:31.559
a of a of Jake Cisco, Captain Cisco's son, Yeah,

909
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:35.199
telling recounting a thing that happened because they messed with

910
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:38.000
Deep Space nine's time frames a lot, and he was

911
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:39.960
amazing as the adult Jake Cisco.

912
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:41.400
He was where you saw him first.

913
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.519
Oh, it had to have been Night ninety. It had

914
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:46.599
to have been, because Night ninety was I saw nine

915
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:48.559
ninety like right when it came to tape.

916
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.280
Mine might have been The Rock if not Candy Man,

917
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.280
it was either. It's one of It's one of those two,

918
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.639
because I remember him in The Rock. He is so

919
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:57.199
freaking vicious in The Rock.

920
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.440
Now he's really good in The Rock. I just ninety

921
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.880
had to have been it because I saw it so young,

922
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:04.119
like super young.

923
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.800
I saw ninety after I saw the original because Ghastly

924
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.320
came to our town with Creep showed the original right

925
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:11.519
around the time that text change all the beginning was

926
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:13.519
coming out, because I remember that because that was one

927
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.280
of the merch things that they had, was passing out

928
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.000
T shirts for it. So yeah, he does young and

929
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:20.880
the rest is in twenty thirteen, Victor Crowley in twenty

930
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.280
seventeen talking about bringing him back. He's literally in a

931
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:27.159
cell phone video in that movie. Death House in twenty seventeen,

932
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:31.000
Riverdale Hellfest Scream TV series in twenty nineteen, Candy Corn

933
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.519
Tails from the Hood three in twenty twenty.

934
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.320
Which I mean, you want to make your little faces,

935
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.800
but that was a big step up from from two two.

936
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.760
But what every time I think of three, what I

937
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:43.679
always think of is the fact that the reveal that

938
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.760
the little girl is telling these stories, and then the

939
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.599
heinousness of one story in particular.

940
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.119
Yeah. Yeah, all the stories are brutal and gruesome, and

941
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.119
one has like very graphic sex and racism. So I

942
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.559
just imagine this little girl going so anyway, he's on

943
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.039
top of her, just pound inner and pound dinner, and

944
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.920
I'm like, uh, how did this little okay? You know?

945
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:03.599
Because then the worst part is it's like, well, no,

946
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:05.760
that's not what happened. It's just he filled in the blankes.

947
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:07.599
But oh so he's just fantasizing about sex will talking

948
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.480
to which Oh that's fine, great, that's right y yeah

949
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:11.639
wait wait, yeah, we're good, We're good. Yeah, that's good.

950
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.199
Spoiler alert Candy Man twenty twenty one.

951
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.480
Yes, which which honestly is such a good reveal and

952
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:19.920
help that movie a lot for me personally.

953
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.840
The Flash in twenty twenty three, stream in twenty twenty four,

954
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:26.239
and not his last performance, but what I'll credit him

955
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.000
with because it's the last one on IMDb at this time.

956
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.159
He has a by the way, twelve in production right now.

957
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.159
Oh wow, yeah, so he's got he's got some stuff

958
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:33.519
that's going to come out. Plus did you see the

959
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:36.400
reason about Cutter's Island finally getting a release? His nineties

960
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.880
horror film That Never Got Is is coming out now.

961
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:40.559
Oh that's awesome. Yeah, that's excellent.

962
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:44.280
But yeah, Final Destination Bloodlines twenty twenty five. He unfortunately

963
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.280
passed November six, twenty twenty four, at age sixty nine,

964
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:51.320
complications from a very subdued did not say much about

965
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.320
it battle with cancer, which I believe he had been

966
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:56.039
fighting for about a decade.

967
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:59.239
I want to say, really, yeah, I remember seeing a

968
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:01.599
video of him because there was a Tony Todd film

969
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.400
festival and he couldn't attend, and he sent a video

970
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:06.960
in and I remember seeing clips from that video and

971
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.360
just knowing, you know, unfortunately his time was about up.

972
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:11.880
Well, it's just like, I mean, the same thing we're

973
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:16.840
dealing with Reggie Banister right now. Yeah, I'm so sad, but.

974
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:18.199
You're just keeping the keeping the vibe.

975
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.039
I'm sorry, but yeah, Tony Todd, I mean, incredible body

976
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.159
of work. Rest in peace. This is I mean so

977
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:26.960
many movies here that I grew up with and influenced

978
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.079
me for that matter. So what was your first time

979
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:30.920
seeing Final Destination? Oh?

980
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:35.679
Man, I mean rented it on tape because everyone was

981
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:40.400
talking about it. It was everywhere, and got it. I

982
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.639
probably at the Blockbuster near my house at the time.

983
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:49.840
And I remember even knowing what that that you knew

984
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:51.840
what the movie was roughly about. You knew that the plane,

985
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:53.960
you know that they don't go on a plane that

986
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.039
blows up. Yeah, but I remember the biggest shock when

987
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:02.320
I watched it for the first time wasn't the plane exploded,

988
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.119
like them all on it and the fireball or whatever,

989
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:05.880
because you know, it just kind of it happens. It's

990
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.639
freaky but whatever. Yeah, it was when they were standing

991
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:11.119
in the terminal at the airport and they're all talking

992
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:13.719
and then all of a sudden, the plane explodes in view. Yeah,

993
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:17.360
and the shadow the window shadow that I remember sitting

994
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:20.440
in my living room watching on VHS and going, uh yeah,

995
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:22.840
like even though I knew something bad was because we

996
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.239
knew that the whole point was something was going to happen,

997
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:29.199
part of me didn't think it was going to happen then. Yeah,

998
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.119
part of me was like, oh, well, it'll like are

999
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:32.880
they gonna like get halfway home and then find out

1000
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:35.320
it exploded over the ocean or something. Nope, it barely

1001
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.199
makes it out of the airport. Yeah, which makes it

1002
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.599
so much more visceral and so much more memorable.

1003
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.960
Well, and also spoilers it blows up earlier in his

1004
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.840
earlier than his premonition, because in the premonition they get

1005
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.039
up in the sky, there's turbulence and whatnot, and then

1006
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.320
all the shit happens. But yeah, my first time watching

1007
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.440
it was my sister had had a slumber party and

1008
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.639
so Mom let her go to Family Video or Hollywood

1009
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:02.800
Video and read whatever she wanted. And I distinctly remember

1010
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:04.800
most of the stack of if not all of it,

1011
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:11.360
which was Undercover, Brother, Fear dot com. Yeah, super Troopers, crazy, beautiful,

1012
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:12.840
and Final Destination.

1013
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:18.679
That is an evening right there. That's a whole mood.

1014
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.320
It really is, though, And I remember they had watched

1015
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:24.159
Super Troopers first, and I had peaked around the corner

1016
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:26.239
and seen some of that, and then they started finding

1017
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.239
Destination and naturally couldn't hang out with my sister. But also,

1018
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.119
like I was still into horror a little bit at

1019
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:33.639
this point. I don't know if I'd fully transitioned into

1020
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:35.679
it at this point, and so I was peeking around

1021
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.280
the corner and looking at the movie, and then you know,

1022
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:41.719
eventually had to stop peaking around the corner. And the

1023
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:44.519
next day my mom had taken her and her friends out,

1024
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:46.000
so it was just me at the house and I

1025
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:49.119
watched Follow Destination by myself while everybody was gone.

1026
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:50.159
How'd that go?

1027
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:52.000
It scared the shit out of me.

1028
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:52.360
YEA.

1029
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:57.119
What became more prevalent to me as the movie went

1030
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.880
on was just, oh, everything can kill you, so like

1031
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.840
it just became really scary as a kid to just

1032
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:03.960
even exist in a house.

1033
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:09.320
It must be so weird growing up without severe crippling anxiety, right, Yeah,

1034
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:13.400
I was just like yep, yep, yep, yep as everything.

1035
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.559
But from that point on, uh, I mean, I didn't,

1036
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:18.039
you know, I was. I was eight years old when

1037
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:19.679
this movie came out. But from that point on I

1038
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:21.760
was a fan of these movies, even though it probably

1039
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:25.400
took me about another five or six years to finally

1040
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.519
see them. Like I remember sneaking out of my house

1041
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.079
to go with my friends to see the Final Destination

1042
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:33.039
at the midnight premiere back in the day.

1043
00:47:33.159 --> 00:47:34.079
Is that the one that was in three D?

1044
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:34.800
Three D? Yeah?

1045
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:36.679
Yeah, I didn't see it in three D, but I

1046
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:38.880
saw it at the drive in Oh, that's awesome, and

1047
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:41.119
that inspired me to go back and watch all of

1048
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:45.320
them again. Yeah, because I had watched that was was

1049
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:46.159
what was that? The fifth? One?

1050
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:48.719
Fourth, the fourth, the Final, the Final, The Final is

1051
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:50.159
the fourth and then Final List Nation five?

1052
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.760
Maybe it was five I saw in the drive regardless,

1053
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.239
I had fallen out at some point. I know I

1054
00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.280
had seen Final Destination two for sure as I could.

1055
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.480
Cat was three in three D in the or did

1056
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:03.000
it come out in three D format? I'm not sure, man,

1057
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.320
because now I'm curious too because I remember the three

1058
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.400
D being huge on DVD because then you also had

1059
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:09.480
the option to change the scenes and whatnot, like it

1060
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:11.760
was to choose your own demise at that point.

1061
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:14.159
The Final Destination was in three D. I don't think

1062
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:14.840
three was.

1063
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.440
It came out on three I think it came out

1064
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:18.519
in three D on disc or whatever, because that was

1065
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:20.760
the point of like My Bloody Valentine too. Probably it

1066
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.039
could be, could be, but yeah, from that point on,

1067
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:25.840
I was hooked. I even have a distinct memory of

1068
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.840
I had to cram for a college final, so I

1069
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:33.000
watched all five Final Destinations while you were studying, while

1070
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:34.800
I was while I was doing my work in my project.

1071
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.320
Like literally started at like probably like ten o'clock, eleven

1072
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:39.920
o'clock and watched all of them. Was done before five.

1073
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:42.079
Because the one thing I love about these movies, not

1074
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:43.559
many exceed ninety minutes.

1075
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.000
No, they don't. They don't tend to overstay their welcome.

1076
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:49.679
Yeah, and even Final Destination blood Lines is the longest

1077
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:51.239
so far of the series, and I think it's at

1078
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:55.920
like one hundred and five minutes, So I'm excited about that.

1079
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:58.280
So it was Final Destination five I saw at the

1080
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:01.400
drive in Okay, and I had not seen I think

1081
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:03.760
it was three or four. Yeah, we're the ones I

1082
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:05.480
missed because after I saw five at the drive and

1083
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:08.559
I immediately sought out all of the films because I

1084
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:09.440
wanted to catch back.

1085
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:14.320
Well in five spoiler alert. Five has that brilliant pullback

1086
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:15.360
on ending too.

1087
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:18.800
It was a great ending that maybe go yeah. Yeah.

1088
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:21.760
So getting into Final Destination, we open as we find

1089
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:24.519
Alex Browning who's played by Devin Salwa, and he is

1090
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.519
at his home packing for the school field trip to go.

1091
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:29.119
To Europe, well to go to France.

1092
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:29.480
France.

1093
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:31.800
Yet more specifically, there was no I don't know if

1094
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.000
the EU had had claimed France yet.

1095
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.320
But we also get the get we get the idea

1096
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.199
that he's a little nervous about this. His mom tries

1097
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:41.239
to take one of the tags off his bag and

1098
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.199
he's like, no, can't do that, like it's bad luck,

1099
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.880
and he just doesn't really have a desire to fly.

1100
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:46.519
It sounds like.

1101
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.119
Yeah, and and I have to say, whoever wrote this film,

1102
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:53.079
I mean, well of the writers, yeah, whoever one of

1103
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:58.880
them had substantial generalized anxiety, I would say, because they

1104
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.920
were very good at depicting the idea of just being

1105
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.840
nervous about every single thing around you. Yeah, and for

1106
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.519
that I commend them. On a rewatch, I was like, man,

1107
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.719
I'm getting nervous in the plane just by the way

1108
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:14.679
he's watching everything that's happening around him.

1109
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.000
One of my favorite things is, like, to add to

1110
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:19.519
his distress, I guess is he goes to the ticket

1111
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:21.559
counter and she's like, Oh, the plane has the same

1112
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:25.719
numbers as your birthday. No, that's weird because flight attendants

1113
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:27.760
just say that apparently, I.

1114
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:29.559
Mean, if they notice it thing, I guess, yeah, I

1115
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:31.800
mean not everybody is like you who just walks in

1116
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:34.920
with like a neck pillow and like sunglasses and earbudget

1117
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:36.159
just like whatever serve me.

1118
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.840
There was one time, so I was trying to figure

1119
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:41.400
out if when we had flown to Florida, if it

1120
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.079
was a poster pre nine eleven was yeah, and my

1121
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.480
sister reminded me. She was like, I don't know what

1122
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:48.480
year it was, but I remember the very small plane

1123
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:50.639
that we flew back on. My parents will not let

1124
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.840
me forget you this day. So I'm like, I had

1125
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.159
to have been single digits, if not, like just maybe

1126
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:58.239
ten at most. And we get onto this this puddle

1127
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:01.320
jumper for our final flight that was are connect back

1128
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:04.159
to Dayton Airport at this point and we get on

1129
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:05.599
this flight. The guy comes on, he's like, you know,

1130
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:07.679
we're gonna be cruising this point blah blah blah, And

1131
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:09.239
I apparently, like I just spoke up. I was like,

1132
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:10.800
I guess we're not getting any drinks on this flight.

1133
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:15.480
I mean, you weren't wrong.

1134
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:15.840
Yeah.

1135
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.679
Now, the first time I flew alone, I was about

1136
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.960
I was twelve, twelve or eleven. Yeah, yeah, I was

1137
00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:27.239
a little at your wings. No, I was too old

1138
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.239
for that. Ah. Yeah, they don't really do that. Also,

1139
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:33.119
they don't actually do that that often anyway, But I

1140
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:39.559
remember being handed off to the to the the flight attendants. Yeah,

1141
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:41.480
and they really did. They kept an eye on me.

1142
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.800
They seated me with the one other on the way out.

1143
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:48.079
There was one other young kid and he's flying by themselves,

1144
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.159
so they sat us next to each other, which was

1145
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.440
fine because I mean back then, you know, you were like, oh, no,

1146
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:57.519
did I pack extra batteries for my Walkman? I only

1147
00:51:57.559 --> 00:51:58.360
have three CDs.

1148
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.400
Bro I couldn't even hear. So I have my I

1149
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:02.719
had my tape Walkman when we flew to Florida, because

1150
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:04.599
I remember having the Batman soundtracking a couple other things.

1151
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.320
I couldn't even hear. My headphones didn't go high enough

1152
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:08.440
once the plane started.

1153
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.519
I had that problem. Yeah, where I mean I had

1154
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:13.320
the volume all that? What I ended up doing I had,

1155
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.000
I don't remember. I had like a little book of

1156
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:17.840
CDs and I just remember I put on the loudest

1157
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.519
one I had and I could hear that. But on

1158
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.920
the way this was from Dayton to New Hampshire, no

1159
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.079
connecting flights to keep things easier for poor little child

1160
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:29.159
make Yeah, and on the way out there, I just

1161
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:32.800
remember it being like the easiest flight ever. We're up

1162
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.880
in the air, they're bringing you sprite. I forget how

1163
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:37.519
the flight's not long. It's maybe an hour and a

1164
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.239
half tops, which is awesome because it's a thirteen and

1165
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:41.679
a half hour drive, Yeah, which is.

1166
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:43.920
What we normally red. Yeah, I'm here.

1167
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:47.039
And I just remember like getting my soda. I remember

1168
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:48.920
all this stuff and uh. And the person I was

1169
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.719
sitting next to was very like talkative, so we were

1170
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:55.760
talking and having a nice time and just great. The

1171
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.039
landing was scary because small planes landings, everything's worse than

1172
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.880
a small plane. Yeah, so the landing's worse, you know.

1173
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.400
Uh but whatever. On the way up, Oh and we

1174
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:07.760
got there early because we were with the wind. On

1175
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.360
the way back, we were against the draft. Oh yeah,

1176
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:12.639
so the plane just like we get up there and

1177
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:14.639
I'm like, okay, cool. I had like a and the

1178
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.119
whole plane just vibrated for like forty five minutes straight,

1179
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.480
and I thought we were all gonna die. And a

1180
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.199
stewardess walked over. It was just like, are you all right?

1181
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:24.960
And I was like, uh yeah. She was like, this

1182
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:27.039
is normal. Yeah, it's just the way it is. This

1183
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:29.119
is why the flight's longer on the way home than

1184
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:30.360
it is on the way away.

1185
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:31.320
Have a jack and coke?

1186
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:33.719
Yeah, here, why don't you just have a jack and

1187
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:37.199
coke and hold on? It's the nineties, so here's a valume.

1188
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.039
Here's a quick I just have I have sad one

1189
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:41.840
left over. It's I have a it's in a role

1190
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.719
like like like CERTs or whatever like, but it's it's

1191
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:49.880
coludes in valume. But no, I remember being terrified for

1192
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.159
that part. Yeah, and slowly calming down. I was not

1193
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.719
a I didn't enjoy flying until I was an adult.

1194
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:01.960
I get that because as an adult it was like, hey,

1195
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:03.559
you need to fly somewhere for work. And I was like,

1196
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:05.679
oh cool, where are we flying? They were like JFK

1197
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.920
to to Los Angeles and I was like, so like

1198
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.719
the longest flight while still in the United States, and

1199
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:14.559
they were like, yep, it's like four and a half

1200
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:15.320
hours in a plane.

1201
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:17.199
Is JFK as chaotic as I've heard of this?

1202
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.880
It is pretty it's it's huge in chaotic, it's it's

1203
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:21.800
a lot. It's a lot. And we had to fly

1204
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:24.760
out of JFK because that was our airline was serviced

1205
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:28.320
out of there. So we get up in the air

1206
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:30.760
and I Am like squeezing my seat and I'm nervous

1207
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.360
as shit and I'm nervous as shit, and after about

1208
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.639
an hour, I just got tired of it. I was like, okay, whatever,

1209
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:37.719
Like I'm just going to watch this. They had TV

1210
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.519
you could watch, so I was like, I don't care anymore.

1211
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.920
I'm just going to watch TV. And I just stopped caring.

1212
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:47.159
The landing still gets me a little bit. Ye, just

1213
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:51.840
heading toward the ground can be a lot, but even

1214
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:54.079
still like the last time I flew, I flew down

1215
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:57.440
to Florida a few years back. I just had a

1216
00:54:57.480 --> 00:54:59.800
fun time with it. Like I got I was by myself,

1217
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:02.599
and on the way on the I had to connect

1218
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:05.800
to North Carolina, and on the way to North Carolina,

1219
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:09.000
it was just me. The plane was almost empty. They

1220
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:10.400
were doing that thing where they're like, well, some people

1221
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:11.920
like to move to the back so we could balance

1222
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:14.920
the plane and all this stuff, and I just watched

1223
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.119
my iPad. I watched movies on it. I was watching

1224
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:19.199
airplane movies, which is always bad idea when you're on

1225
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:20.480
a plane, so I highly recommend it.

1226
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:23.320
The last time I flew my my flying to Florida

1227
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:26.159
movie was The Warriors, and then my flying back from

1228
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:28.199
Florida movie was Eddie the Eagle. For the first time.

1229
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.400
Oh yeah, nice, that was the recommendation from you.

1230
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:37.480
I watched American Maid, okay, and I watched Airport No.

1231
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:41.920
I watched Executive Decision. Yeah yeah, I watched Executive Decision.

1232
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.840
And when I was at the terminal for three hours,

1233
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:49.119
I watched Terminal of course, because I I am hilarious

1234
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:52.800
and clever. I it was actually the first time i'd

1235
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.239
ever seen terminal, so I actually really enjoyed it. And

1236
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:58.079
then I was like, man, now I'm hungry because you

1237
00:55:58.280 --> 00:55:58.679
made me.

1238
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:00.000
Got to go gather these carts.

1239
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:03.199
Now, I guess right, I'd never seen eating a whopper

1240
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:04.719
looks so great in my life.

1241
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:08.480
I watched the guy recently. He I don't know what

1242
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:10.639
he what his channel specifically is, but he does like

1243
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:12.920
food breaks down and broke debt breakdown of movies for

1244
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.199
the most part. And one of the things he did

1245
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.079
was figure out how he could scarf the big burger down.

1246
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:20.119
And he basically realized that they probably didn't have a

1247
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:21.920
patty and it was all just like outer so that

1248
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:23.920
when he bit into it, it just he could bite

1249
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:25.519
just through the bread and eat it really quickly.

1250
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:27.960
I don't know why you wouldn't just assume that Tom

1251
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:30.039
Hanks is that damn good. I'm not saying he's not,

1252
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:32.320
but I think he's just that damn good. I don't

1253
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:34.559
know how many takes Spielberg is known for at this point.

1254
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:38.239
I didn't say he swallowed the burger. Do you know

1255
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:40.440
that's a common practice. So the bucket they spit it

1256
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:42.599
out into because of the amount of takes they have

1257
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:42.840
to do.

1258
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:45.440
That's how Bill Murray got super sick on Groundhog Day.

1259
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:47.480
He didn't spit he ate that entire angel food cake

1260
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:48.280
and swallowed it.

1261
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.519
Yeah, Maria, I really for names. Maria Sertis who played

1262
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:56.840
who played Uh, I can't believe I'm forgetting Star Trek names. Oh,

1263
00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:59.840
I've been It's been a long week. But she was

1264
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:03.360
on and start treking this generation she played. See, I

1265
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:06.519
can't I can't believe myself. Okay, bud, But but she

1266
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.280
uh not. Only when she had to do these these

1267
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:11.440
few eating scenes, she was like, I have to spit

1268
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:12.920
it out. And they were like, well, we're only doing

1269
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.280
They were like, well, we're only doing four takes, so

1270
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:17.320
you you know, and it's the end of the day.

1271
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:20.320
And she was just like, have you seen the outfit

1272
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:23.079
I fit into on this show. I will not be

1273
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:26.599
swallowing any cake and I have not planned to swallow yeah,

1274
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.280
which I thought was I was like, she no, I

1275
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:31.239
mean like for real though, like that would be That's

1276
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:33.599
that's a lot for her to you know, she had

1277
00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:36.400
to maintain a serious figure on that whole show.

1278
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:38.599
I saw a video recently. And then we'll get back

1279
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:40.800
to the movie. Michelle Fiver went to visit the cat

1280
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.679
suit from Batman Returns, and she was looking at us.

1281
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:45.920
She's just like, I can't believe there was a time.

1282
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:49.960
I mean, I would be fascinated to know what her

1283
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:52.440
diet was. I'm assuming like a spray of PAM cooking

1284
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:53.559
spray in your mouth in the morning.

1285
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:55.519
She passed out like three times in the suit.

1286
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:58.920
And then you lick a power bar for lunch and

1287
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:01.960
then and then dinner is a hot sauce packet all.

1288
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:04.760
She was so so thin.

1289
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:06.519
Yeah, I mean they had a vacuum sealer in it.

1290
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:09.519
She passed out like two or three times, and also

1291
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:10.960
had to learn how to use a whip in that

1292
00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:11.400
thing too.

1293
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:15.559
Yeah, I imagine that was tough. It was Deanna Troy.

1294
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:17.800
I can't believe I forgot Deanna Troy from Star Trek

1295
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:19.719
the Nation Region. I'm embarrassed.

1296
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:20.679
You've redeemed yourself.

1297
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.159
I don't look it up either, I just my brain

1298
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:24.000
just figured it out.

1299
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:27.440
So we're back at JFK Airport and oh yeah, they

1300
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:28.800
flew out of JFK.

1301
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:31.599
Yeah, I'm glad I didn't remember that when I flew

1302
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:35.440
out of JFK, I didn't.

1303
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:39.559
That's a good call. Mother Hubbard, so Alex also we

1304
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:42.079
get to beat some of the other classmates, which includes

1305
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:44.719
Clear Rivers. We have Carter played by Kurs Smith. We

1306
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.159
have Valerie Luton who is the one of the teachers.

1307
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:51.360
We also have Todd his brother Chad, and then we

1308
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:54.760
have Billy played by Sean Williamscott in a backwards baseball cap.

1309
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:57.599
Hey, my fellow kids, I was stiffler.

1310
00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:00.079
Or a should be Todd and George not Chad. Okay,

1311
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:04.239
So that is when we also have Devin Salwa is

1312
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:05.960
just starting to notice things around the airport. He's still

1313
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.280
nervous and whatnot. And we also see that Clear is

1314
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.559
picking up on it that he that he's got nervousness.

1315
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:13.679
And that's also when Todd decides to ask if he

1316
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:15.039
wants to go to the bathroom and take a pre

1317
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:15.639
flight shit.

1318
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.239
Yeah, you know, the altitude could do funny things to

1319
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:22.840
a man and his guts. I liked that idea because

1320
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:27.239
it's kind of that it kind of feels that human

1321
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:32.199
need to find patterns. Yeah, it's kind of like deja vu,

1322
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:34.960
you know how It's like I feel like I've done

1323
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:37.119
this before, but I haven't. Why do I feel like

1324
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:39.519
I've done this before. So it's almost like the idea

1325
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:42.199
is to me, what I got from this is that

1326
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:46.000
all these little things you noticing them, like your birth

1327
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:49.039
date's the same as the whatever. So all these coincidences,

1328
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:50.639
because you know, there's some people who don't even believe

1329
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:54.079
in coincidences, that it's like that was death kind of

1330
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:57.199
showing its hand in a way most people don't notice

1331
00:59:57.760 --> 00:59:58.480
because you've.

1332
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:00.360
Got them sitting in the stall Rocky Mountain High by

1333
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:03.920
John denverckhams on John famously died in a plane crash. Yes,

1334
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:07.039
and deleted scene. I don't it wasn't on the disc,

1335
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:09.480
but deleted scene apparently was they were gonna have the

1336
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:12.280
girls also in their own bathroom as well, and clear

1337
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:14.119
was going to be reading a magazine with an article

1338
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:15.639
on Leonard Skinnard.

1339
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:17.039
Oh man, that's funny.

1340
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:20.599
Yeah. So he uh, Devinsaw's character is sitting there and

1341
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:22.280
he hears it and he's like, oh, John Denveres like

1342
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:24.159
died in the plane crash. That's a little weird.

1343
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.559
I would have been like, let's let's switch the radio over. Hello.

1344
01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:30.039
It's like, all right, this is no music, no music,

1345
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:31.280
no music. We're done.

1346
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:34.719
So they leave the bathroom they go back out. Devin

1347
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:36.719
Saw was watching the flight boards at this point and

1348
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:39.800
the heap seeing them flip. Some flights are canceling again,

1349
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:41.840
just building on this tension, on this nervousness. And then

1350
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:45.159
finally we move into the plane and the plane's a

1351
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:47.719
bit chaotic. The classmates are all, you know, excited for

1352
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:49.480
the trip. We also see that there's a baby on

1353
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:51.800
the flight, a menutally challenged person, which prompts somebody to

1354
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:53.519
be like, oh, well, then you know we're safe on

1355
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:55.679
this flight. God wouldn't kill a baby or a mentally

1356
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:56.760
a challenge person.

1357
01:00:56.920 --> 01:01:02.079
Yeah, yeah, God never does that. No, no, sa no suh. Well,

1358
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:06.599
And and that's the other thing too, is international flights

1359
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:11.679
are generally crowded, crowd like packed, and this is no exception.

1360
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:14.480
It's just packed full of people. You've got a whole

1361
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.320
high school class, You've got all these different people going

1362
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:20.760
to Paris for all these different reasons, some connecting, some arriving.

1363
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:25.039
And it does give you this really great sense of

1364
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:27.960
the plane because you do see a little bit of

1365
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:30.559
everything in an airplane. It's not uncommon to see nuns

1366
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:31.639
and clergy and.

1367
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.119
I always doctors love movie airplanes because they look so huge,

1368
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:37.800
like they look like houses.

1369
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.559
On Well, international flights are really.

1370
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.760
Big, really big. Yeah, because I always think of the

1371
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:45.119
first time that I saw turbulence with Ray Liota. Oh yeah,

1372
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:46.320
that plane is huge.

1373
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:51.639
Well, yeah, because filming in a fake plane. Yeah, I've

1374
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:55.159
heard so many stories. Well, just about the worst part

1375
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.039
for Fred. Ray talked about this a bit with me

1376
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.000
one time, because he did a couple of airplane movies. Yeah,

1377
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:03.719
and he said the worst part was the seats, because

1378
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:05.800
they're all you can pop them up and move them,

1379
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:08.519
but it takes there's so many and it takes forever.

1380
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:10.639
So anytime you want to reverse shot, you got to

1381
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:12.000
move all those seats. But then you gotta find somewhere

1382
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:13.519
to put them. Yeah, because if you take them off

1383
01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:16.880
the set, the plane set, or even sometimes a real plane,

1384
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:19.920
but it's whatever, you know, fuselage. If you take them

1385
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.760
too far away, it takes even longer to set up.

1386
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:24.960
And then you'll you'll be like, well, let's stash those away,

1387
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:25.960
we won't need them for a while, and then all

1388
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:27.159
of a sudden it be like we got this bunch shot.

1389
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:29.719
There's no seats in that in the back of the shot.

1390
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:31.840
It's like, oh my god, somebody go find those cheers

1391
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:34.480
and they're not light. Yeah, they're they're real. Yeah, So

1392
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:36.119
because people have to be able to sit in them,

1393
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.760
and it's like it's tight. You're breathing the same air.

1394
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:41.760
You're trying to get air in, but you have lights

1395
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:43.960
that are making it hot. I mean, now it wouldn't

1396
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:46.079
be so bad with LED lights and stuff, but back then,

1397
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:47.960
I mean you were, you were heating it up. I

1398
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:51.280
mean I remember shooting in houses and stuff back before

1399
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.679
LED lighting, and we don't have the level of lights.

1400
01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:58.639
You know, we'd have maybe four really strong lights and

1401
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:00.519
we could just in the in the wind, we could

1402
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:02.639
just turn the heat off because it would heat the house,

1403
01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:04.760
all the people, with all the lights, it would keep

1404
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:08.480
the place warm. Yep. So yeah, I remember would not

1405
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:09.000
want to be on.

1406
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:10.840
A shooting babysitter that we We did that a couple

1407
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:14.599
of times. Is that thousand of the thousand watt? My god?

1408
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:16.239
I love that light.

1409
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.280
It was so bright, so bright, and it hurt.

1410
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:21.800
Well, oh do you touch it?

1411
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.239
Oh? Yeah, couple of times yeah, that Matt and I

1412
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:24.760
both did.

1413
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:26.719
We people used to laugh at me because I go

1414
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:28.920
to a justice la there's yeah, and they'd be like,

1415
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:30.920
don't you have gloves? Of course I have gloves. I'm

1416
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:31.400
not using them.

1417
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:33.239
Yeah, you would laugh at me my gloves and be like,

1418
01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:34.639
oh oh, look at that.

1419
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:36.480
Somebody doesn't have chef hands.

1420
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:39.719
It's literally the one thing they instilled upon us in films.

1421
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.639
Always have gloves if you're working in any capacity on

1422
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:43.920
a set, and not just for that, because you just

1423
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:45.280
never know when you have to lift up a couch

1424
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.880
or something. You should just have gloves. Absolutely. But no,

1425
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:50.679
So I've always heard that filming on an airplane can

1426
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:53.679
be pretty awful. Oh I bet, and I mean obviously,

1427
01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:55.840
and this is it, and we're talking airplanes set. We're

1428
01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:58.000
not even talking a literal airplane.

1429
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.000
I mean, they can't look all as impressive as Freddie's

1430
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:00.800
Nightmare is that one.

1431
01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:05.800
I almost out why he needed to fly out of Springwood,

1432
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:06.639
but hey, it.

1433
01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:10.199
Is what it is. So by this point, Alex sits down,

1434
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:12.719
and he also is asked by two girls if he

1435
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:14.960
can move seats so they can sit closer to this

1436
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:17.480
one girl. He abides by it. He goes and sits down.

1437
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:19.480
He goes to work on his trade table, but he

1438
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.280
realizes that the table won't stay up because the button's broken.

1439
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:24.559
Yeah, he pulls the button off and just was sitting there.

1440
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:26.280
It wasn't actually attached to anything.

1441
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:27.880
And we also have this point have had some tension

1442
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:29.880
between him and Carter. Carter's kind of a dick. We

1443
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.119
pick up on that pretty quickly, and so eventually the

1444
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:35.800
flight takes off. Everybody's cheering and they're like, you know,

1445
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:37.960
our flight time is this, this and this. They get

1446
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:41.159
up in the air and then hit some turbulence, makes

1447
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:43.280
everybody nervous, and then it kind of straightens out. But

1448
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.079
then there's a giant hole in the side of the

1449
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:47.519
plane as a fire breaks out. The actually the oxygen

1450
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:50.639
mask dropped down. Fire is sweeping through the plane. We

1451
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:53.079
see Alex get it, We see a bunch of his

1452
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:55.599
classmates get it. And the last thing that we see

1453
01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:59.119
is the fire reaching him, burning him as we zoom out,

1454
01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:01.039
and we show that he he just had a premonition

1455
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:02.880
and they're still on the plane.

1456
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:05.920
And he's drenched in sweat. Yeah, and I want to mention,

1457
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:07.960
by the way, if there was ever a way to

1458
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:11.440
advertise like you need a surround sound system. It's just

1459
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:15.239
all shit. It's just all the airplane crashes in famous movies. Yeah,

1460
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.840
the Gray airplane crash amazing time.

1461
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:19.800
Oh the crashes in speed when we when we put

1462
01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:21.599
my Blu ray on that one night, Holy shit your

1463
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:22.199
sound system.

1464
01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:24.559
Yeah yeah, it rumbles everything. You feel like you're in

1465
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:28.000
a plane crash. And final destination was no exception no

1466
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.360
on that. And one of my favorite things is when

1467
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:33.760
he realizes what happened, he runs over to where he

1468
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:36.800
where he was sitting. It is premonition is what he

1469
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:38.840
thought was a dream at that point, and the button

1470
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.559
comes from and comes off, so now he knows it's real.

1471
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:44.000
We start hearing some repeats of some things that I

1472
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.360
think Sean Williamscott like costs on candy at one point,

1473
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:48.559
and then also so he starts freaking out like the

1474
01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:50.880
plane's gonna fucking crash, the plane's gonna blow up, And

1475
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:53.199
naturally everybody's like, oh my god, what, and you know,

1476
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:55.519
Carter is like, hey, calm down. They get into a

1477
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:57.800
huge fight. Long story short, they get kicked off the

1478
01:05:57.840 --> 01:05:58.559
plane then.

1479
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:00.639
And it's brilliant too because as I was rewatching it,

1480
01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:03.199
I didn't remember all the details. Yeah, he starts screaming like,

1481
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.239
if you keep doing this, we'll take you off the plane.

1482
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:07.559
But then Carter's just like dude stopping a dick. They

1483
01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:09.800
start finding he punches him. It's like, now you're all

1484
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:12.320
off the plane because you just punched him too. So

1485
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:14.960
they remove the five students. There's the two teachers.

1486
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:18.679
Luckily, Luton goes over and she explains the situation that

1487
01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:21.079
they need to have a counselor in the air for

1488
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:23.599
the kids, a chaperone, I mean, And so one of

1489
01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:25.559
the teachers goes back on the plane. Luton is stuck

1490
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:28.119
with the students. And like you said, we see Shaw

1491
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.559
Willams Scott watching the flight take off, and we see

1492
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:32.960
Carter and Alex going at it still and he's just like,

1493
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.599
you're fucking crazy, blahlah blah blah. And then Shaw Wiamscott

1494
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:37.039
looked at the plane as it goes up in the sky.

1495
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:40.239
Bye, have fun in France or whatever. There they go,

1496
01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:43.840
and I love that it blows up right when it's

1497
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:47.480
almost out of view. It's like at the last possible

1498
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:50.679
second for you to see it happen, yeah, boom boom,

1499
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:55.000
and it explodes the windows. It's a fireball, kind of

1500
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:57.639
hits them a little bit. It's a huge shock wave.

1501
01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:03.199
It's so effective and it still got me just like

1502
01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:04.199
it did when I was a kid.

1503
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:07.559
Yeah, no, it's it's it's unsettling. But also just even

1504
01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:09.519
though you expect it coming, like you said, it's just

1505
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:11.079
still shocking when it happens.

1506
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:13.440
Oh yeah, no, no, and and and I was just

1507
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:16.880
so pleased that the movie still surprised me. Yeah, because

1508
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.760
nothing's better than that. You know. I get no joy

1509
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:21.480
out of rewatching something I loved as a kid and

1510
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:22.960
it not being as good as I remember it, but

1511
01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:25.039
I get such a joy out of it getting me

1512
01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:25.840
one more time.

1513
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.440
So naturally, some suspicion is now on Alex. How did

1514
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:31.280
he know? How they know that was going to happen?

1515
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.039
And the FBI is called in.

1516
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.079
Well it does make sense. Yeah, and you know, and

1517
01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:39.320
this film, it's important to point out that it's pre

1518
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.760
nine eleven, Yes, which is why you started wondering if

1519
01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:44.400
you'd flown pre nine to eleven. If it had been

1520
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:46.000
post nine eleven, he would have been able to get

1521
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:46.559
off that plane.

1522
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:47.599
Real really eazy.

1523
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:49.320
The moment he said like this play's gonna blow up,

1524
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:53.079
they'd be like out out right now, right now, the

1525
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:55.159
security is waiting for.

1526
01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:56.400
They would have also had to get their like four

1527
01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:58.920
hours in advance and not gotten through security that easy.

1528
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:01.519
Yeah, I mean, I guess I've flown out of JFK. Yeah,

1529
01:08:01.519 --> 01:08:04.480
it was a long line of shoeless people.

1530
01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:09.079
So survivors. Now we have Alex Todd Terry, who is

1531
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:12.639
Carter's girlfriend. We also have the teacher Valerie Luton, Billy Hitchcock,

1532
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:14.679
and Clear Rivers. They're all removed from the plane. They

1533
01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:17.880
all survived this explosion. Now and naturally, like I said,

1534
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:20.439
the FBI is called in and they question Alex. But

1535
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:23.239
we also have the names of the FBI agents, which

1536
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:25.840
we have Agent Shrek and agent is it Whiney.

1537
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.399
Agent Shrek and was it Whinney? Now I can't remember.

1538
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:32.399
Ween maybe, but Daniel Roebuck who plays Ween. And we

1539
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:35.800
also have the great Roger Gouverner Smith who plays Agent

1540
01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:37.800
Shrek in this also it is two years before the

1541
01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:40.560
Shrek animated film comes out, Yes, and yeah it was

1542
01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:43.720
Ween Yeah, Ween Ween, And so they're asking him like,

1543
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.520
you know, how did you know? And he's like trying

1544
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:50.159
to explain his premonition. Immediately they are suspect of Alex,

1545
01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:51.560
which I mean makes sense.

1546
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:55.479
Yeah, And the actor who plays Agent Shrek, Roger Guenever

1547
01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:59.279
Gwenever' smith. I think I'm saying that right. He's a

1548
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:01.840
great actor, great character actor. And I mentioned to you

1549
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:04.039
when we when you came over while I was finishing

1550
01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:06.840
up the movie. Yeah, he's so intense in every role

1551
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:09.039
I've ever seen it. Oh yeah, So he's a great

1552
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:12.199
like off hooting character.

1553
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:13.960
One of my all time favorites of his. I don't

1554
01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:15.399
remember the year of it, but there's a movie called

1555
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.920
Shade that has Sylvester Slone Melanie Griffith, Gabrielle Byrne, where

1556
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.239
he plays a mob enforcer basically like the the second

1557
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:26.720
in command, and he is terrifying even though he does

1558
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:29.039
not raise his voice, he keeps it low the entire time.

1559
01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:32.159
Oh no, I mean he's so in two thousand and.

1560
01:09:32.119 --> 01:09:34.600
Three eyes, his eyes are where that intensity is too.

1561
01:09:34.640 --> 01:09:35.760
Yeah, it was two thousand and three.

1562
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:36.399
I love it.

1563
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:39.359
No, he's he's so so good. And I first remembered

1564
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:41.680
him really from being in Oz where he played one

1565
01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:44.479
of the uh he played one of the Muslim brotherhood

1566
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:47.600
who was trying to kind of take over the brotherhood. Yeah,

1567
01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:50.199
and uh, he's just there's something about him. He can

1568
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:53.439
so calmly say something that makes you really uncomfortable. Yeah,

1569
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:58.199
he's almost like a red Herring, except that there is

1570
01:09:58.279 --> 01:09:59.880
no red nobody.

1571
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.640
We know who we know who's in this at this point,

1572
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:03.720
or who's behind.

1573
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:05.920
Me pretty much we'll give or take. Yeah. Yeah, so

1574
01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:09.680
but it's a very interesting He brings this interesting energy. Yeah,

1575
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:12.119
which then Tony Todd's character also kind of brings this

1576
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:16.520
likely quiet dread Well intensity.

1577
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:19.000
And Roebuck baby face Roebuck in this as I as

1578
01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:23.640
I said, uh, he Roebuck has a presence with him

1579
01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:25.560
that even when he's playing I mean he plays a

1580
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:27.520
lot of cop rolls for one. Yeah, but even when

1581
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.720
he plays these roles, he's still so good in delivering

1582
01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:34.079
like is he the good guy? Is he on our side?

1583
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:36.560
Kind of thing. It's just like with this one in particular,

1584
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:38.680
it's like he wants to believe Alex, but he doesn't.

1585
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:42.520
I feel Dan Roebuck he's a phenomenal actor. Yeah, but

1586
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:47.640
I find that his best like his type is bureaucrat

1587
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:50.520
that you believe, actually care. Yeah, because there are a

1588
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:52.279
lot of bureaucrats where like rolling your eyeses like I

1589
01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:53.600
have to lease s wort. But if he said, like

1590
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:55.640
we just have to at least fifteen forms and then

1591
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:57.159
I'll do everything I care for whatever you'd be like,

1592
01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:59.560
I believe you. Yeah, like let's let's he's got a

1593
01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:03.279
very disarming kindness to him, even I mean, even when

1594
01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:06.560
he played Monsters of History like Jay Leno.

1595
01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:11.039
Even even unpopular opinion he's one of the best parts

1596
01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:12.479
of the Monsters movie by Rob Zombie.

1597
01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:14.600
I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. I think he

1598
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:18.039
is absolutely, undoubtedly the best part of that movie.

1599
01:11:18.119 --> 01:11:20.079
I think that movie just has an unpopular opinion.

1600
01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:22.840
Whether you like the movie or not, I think you're like, wow,

1601
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:24.039
he's so good as Grandpa.

1602
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:27.640
So by this point, Alex is suspect number one. They

1603
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:31.000
send him back home, and naturally everybody has to adjust

1604
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.880
to the loss of the students. There's a huge uh situ,

1605
01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:36.560
a ceremony at the school. They have a statue that

1606
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:39.159
they dedicate, which they have live music during the statue dedication.

1607
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:42.359
Yeah, which is nice. They're well, I mean, they're rich

1608
01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:43.279
enough to go to Paris.

1609
01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:43.760
Yeah.

1610
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:46.199
Well, and and the real thing is now everybody is

1611
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:51.800
there's a split between grief, confusion, and anger and wondering

1612
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:54.439
if this mother Hubbard over here is a soothsayer.

1613
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:56.640
Well, he says, clear is the only one that believes

1614
01:11:56.720 --> 01:11:58.840
him basically about the premonition. She's the only one, and

1615
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:01.199
she's she is the weird girl of this group. She

1616
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:03.760
is she's an artist, she's reading all the time, and

1617
01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:04.880
she's not really friends with.

1618
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:08.479
That and is typical with any good horror film, she's

1619
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.920
like super model hot while being all of those while

1620
01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:12.399
being the unpopular nerd girl.

1621
01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.319
Yeah, so by this point, she's one of the only

1622
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.560
ones that really believes him. You've even got Todd's father

1623
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:20.079
that wants to choke Alex at this point because he

1624
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:21.439
Blameshi for George's death.

1625
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:23.479
Yeah, that's and that's what I mean is like people

1626
01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:25.319
are trying to fer it, like is he a soothsayer?

1627
01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:30.079
Is he some kind of a supernatural cursed being? And

1628
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:34.000
that's something that after years away from it, I kind

1629
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.479
of forgot that element because you get so obsessed with

1630
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:40.239
the idea, like in this film, luck is Jason Voorhies,

1631
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:44.279
So I had forgotten that there's a whole element of

1632
01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:47.039
people just wondering like are you a witch or are

1633
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:51.319
you a psychic? Like what what is with you? And

1634
01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:54.359
then of course it's like if you saved you and

1635
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:57.199
these people, Why did you save everybody? Yeah? Of course,

1636
01:12:57.520 --> 01:12:59.359
you know in reality, these would be the same people

1637
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:00.600
who are like, just get all off the plane, let

1638
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:02.680
us go to Paris. It's like he would have happily

1639
01:13:03.039 --> 01:13:05.800
had everybody stay on the ground, but that wasn't his call.

1640
01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:07.760
That wasn't his call. So like it's thirty nine days

1641
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.359
later at this point as well, when we have the

1642
01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:11.880
memorial service and we find out that Todd does not

1643
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:14.479
have any permission to be near Alex at this point.

1644
01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:16.720
His dat is strictly forbidding him to be around him.

1645
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:19.600
And so this kind of brings a tussle into Alex's

1646
01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:23.680
life because now he is suspect number one. He's very

1647
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:26.000
well known in the community now, but not for a

1648
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:29.359
good reason. And he's troubled. I mean he's troubled with

1649
01:13:29.399 --> 01:13:31.079
this because now he's trying to figure out, you know,

1650
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:32.800
what is going on exactly well.

1651
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:35.079
And one thing I love about this movie is that

1652
01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:38.439
it explores survivor's guilt. Yeah in an unusual way, yeah,

1653
01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:40.800
still in a way. And I think survivor's guilt is

1654
01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:43.439
one of those things I wish was touched on more

1655
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:47.119
because I think that it's easy to only focus on

1656
01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:51.479
victims are who are gone. Yeah, but to have that

1657
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:55.039
moment where you're like, why me and not them? You know,

1658
01:13:55.079 --> 01:13:56.079
it's a really.

1659
01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:57.880
Hard pill to swallow, though, it really is.

1660
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.800
It's a hellish way to live knowing that you were

1661
01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:05.079
spared for for some reason you'll never know. And that's

1662
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:07.359
the the big thing is, you know, there's no there's

1663
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:09.880
never any closure in being the survivor of a tragedy,

1664
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:14.199
especially when it's like you lived and hundreds died very

1665
01:14:14.279 --> 01:14:16.159
very hard. But of course then they'll I'm sure he's

1666
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:19.479
also being torn apart by like was the premonition to

1667
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:21.800
save me and my friends?

1668
01:14:22.199 --> 01:14:23.920
Or or what else?

1669
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:26.600
Or what what is this? I mean, really, that's really

1670
01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:28.399
the question is what is this?

1671
01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:31.600
Well, my biggest question is if most of your class dies,

1672
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:34.039
do you automatically graduate or do you actually still have

1673
01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:35.199
to do studies at that point?

1674
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:37.319
Well, I mean, what is this? That that that movie

1675
01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:41.039
about when you're in college of your roommate on campus,

1676
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.359
because it's like it's like the dead Man on Campus rule.

1677
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:46.079
It's like, well, I mean I imagine they'd be like, well,

1678
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:49.359
we really can't have you failing, because well, no child

1679
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:51.439
left behind hasn't started yet, but we might lose our

1680
01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:52.199
funding anyway.

1681
01:14:52.279 --> 01:14:53.760
Have you seen the horror version of Dead Man on

1682
01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:55.680
Campus called The Curve with Matthew Lillard?

1683
01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:59.520
Oh god, yeah, yeah, no, yea, that's a fun that's

1684
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:02.880
a I haven't heard Mark af ever. Yeah, that's a

1685
01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:03.479
great one.

1686
01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:07.159
Yeah. So by this point, obviously there's tension between Todd

1687
01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:10.119
and Alex and he's worried about Todd. And uh, one

1688
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:12.840
night he's he's home alone, he's in his room and

1689
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:14.720
he's flipping through a magazine. But then he ends up,

1690
01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:16.920
you know, deciding for a little tug time. So he

1691
01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:19.479
gets out a porno mag and he's getting ready to

1692
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:22.119
do his thing, and then an owl comes out of

1693
01:15:22.119 --> 01:15:25.920
nowhere and lands on his window, scaring Alex, throwing the

1694
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.760
magazine into a fan, and that's when we get the

1695
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:31.520
beautiful of because Todd only has one D in his name.

1696
01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:34.920
So the magazine hits the fan, shreds everywhere, and then

1697
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:39.640
perfect piece of the word today Todd lands on sauwas

1698
01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:40.399
leg Now.

1699
01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:43.359
Would an owl stop you or would you would just

1700
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:45.439
be like no, You're like, I've trained, I've trained too

1701
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:45.880
hard for this.

1702
01:15:47.640 --> 01:15:49.359
I just love the fact that literally they named the

1703
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:51.560
character Todd with one D so they could use that gag.

1704
01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:55.000
I don't know how common one D Todd, but it is.

1705
01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:57.840
It is a thing. But no, it yeah, totally.

1706
01:15:58.039 --> 01:15:59.920
I mean you see his house. His parents were not,

1707
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:02.359
you know, so poor. They couldn't buy another vowel or

1708
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:03.359
buy another letter.

1709
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:06.640
Sound like my grandpa. And they asked him, do you

1710
01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:08.239
have a middle name like I do? He's like no,

1711
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:09.920
Like why not? He's like, we were too poor to

1712
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:12.279
afford middle names in the village I came from. That's

1713
01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:13.079
what he used to tell me.

1714
01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:13.359
Yeah.

1715
01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:15.079
I thought he was serious to tell I was a teenager.

1716
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:15.640
Oh my god.

1717
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:18.039
I was like, what does it cost more? I don't understand.

1718
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:20.279
But Todd, on the other end, is at his home.

1719
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:22.319
He goes into his bathroom and he just needs to

1720
01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:25.359
shave at this point, apparently this is.

1721
01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:33.199
Such a weird scene because oh, because not only does

1722
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:36.560
he decide randomly to try and shave himself dryly. Yes,

1723
01:16:37.079 --> 01:16:40.760
and I get it. I like a smooth neck whenever possible,

1724
01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:43.199
and it is very hard to achieve for those out

1725
01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:46.239
there of the female variety. I don't know why I

1726
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:49.520
said it like that. The hard thing about shaving your

1727
01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:51.880
face is your hair grows in a bunch of different directions,

1728
01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:54.880
so you have to really learn the grain of your face,

1729
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:56.439
and even then you may not be able to get

1730
01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:59.000
it all. So I understand like walking in the bathroom

1731
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.279
and you're like, oh, that sounds scratchy. I'll just get that.

1732
01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:05.399
But he picks up a safety razer. Not Now, this

1733
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:08.560
is a common misconception. A safety razor is not one

1734
01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:11.960
of those razors with the blade encased in plastic. That

1735
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:14.760
is not a safety raiser. That's a disposable razor. A

1736
01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:18.359
safety raiser is a little metal handle that holds one

1737
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:21.640
blade razor blade, and you can get an incredibly close

1738
01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:23.159
shaved with one of those, if you know what you're doing.

1739
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.760
I actually really like safety blade shaving. Well, when I

1740
01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:28.439
saw that razor, my first thought was is that his

1741
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:32.600
dad's because like, who wasn't just handed a Gillette yeah

1742
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:35.159
when you were a kid. But also he goes to

1743
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:39.119
shave dry with it, which you cannot do because with

1744
01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:43.199
a Gillette razor or whatever, those plastics's actually well and

1745
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:46.640
they often have those little you know something or other. Yeah,

1746
01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:50.239
but he goes completely dry, so he immediately cuts himself.

1747
01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:52.960
But I just I just could not stop. It couldn't

1748
01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:57.039
get over the whole safety Razor cuts himself.

1749
01:17:57.079 --> 01:17:58.920
That's the first part, right, And then at this point

1750
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:00.960
he's also knocks something over into the sink. But what

1751
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.079
he doesn't realize is that his toilet mysteriously starts leaking

1752
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:04.920
blue water.

1753
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:10.520
Well are you are you not familiar with Oh you're not,

1754
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:14.359
are you? Oh? With it's more it's more popular back then. Yeah,

1755
01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:17.279
but we used to have these thingies. You could either

1756
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:18.920
they could either be attached to the side of the

1757
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:23.199
bowl that would yeah yeah, yeah, and that's why the

1758
01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:25.920
water the tank was blue. That was my assumption, was

1759
01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:28.600
the water was blue, and which is also smart because

1760
01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:30.560
it made it easier to see on camera. Yeah, but no,

1761
01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:33.079
I remember, you know, like it was always like older

1762
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:34.840
people's houses. I'd go there and I'd be like, the

1763
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:35.880
toilet waters.

1764
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:37.560
Does I say we had that at my parents' house.

1765
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:39.479
I mean they I think Mom would just usually just

1766
01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:41.119
put the thing in there. But I've seen the ones

1767
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:42.560
on the side that are also clipped out.

1768
01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:44.199
I think there's one you can put in the tank.

1769
01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:46.399
I don't know. I just bleach. I just bleach my

1770
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:49.479
toilet every week or so. But why do you bleach

1771
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:49.960
my toilet?

1772
01:18:49.960 --> 01:18:52.560
I already do it, not your toilet, my toy.

1773
01:18:52.680 --> 01:18:55.800
Oh sorry, maybe be a little bit more specific next time.

1774
01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:57.520
So at this point we also get a bunch of

1775
01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:00.159
fake outs. There's an electric radio, there's a you know,

1776
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:02.000
other things that they're just going around this room that

1777
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:04.680
are just like, eh, could it happened this way? Could

1778
01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:05.079
it happened?

1779
01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:07.319
This great example of what it's like to live with

1780
01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:08.720
the constant anxiety of death.

1781
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:11.039
Yeah. So he finally ends up slipping on the water

1782
01:19:11.159 --> 01:19:13.800
and doing so knocks all the shampoos down in his tub.

1783
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:16.399
As he lands into the tub, a clothesline wraps around

1784
01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:19.239
his neck and starts completely choking him and hanging him.

1785
01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:22.439
And he can't kick because the shampoo is there, and

1786
01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:24.119
he also can't get to these scissors to cut it.

1787
01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:25.960
And the thing I love about this scene that is

1788
01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:29.199
also so haunting is his eyes start going super bloodshot.

1789
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:33.079
Oh yeah, yeah, no, they show what's causing his death. Yeah,

1790
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:36.079
And I do love the fake out mm hm. I

1791
01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:38.960
really love that you think it's gonna be this way,

1792
01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:40.079
and you think it's gonna be this way, and then

1793
01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:42.079
it's this way. That was actually why when I saw

1794
01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:45.239
a Final Destination five. Yeah, in the theater after I

1795
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:48.199
saw how great and fun it was. Yeah, it might

1796
01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:51.439
have been you. It was there was somebody probably wasn't you,

1797
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.079
But there's somebody I talked to. No, there was somebody

1798
01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:55.439
I talked to. I said like, whow, I was really great,

1799
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:56.920
and they're like, oh, you need to see the other ones,

1800
01:19:57.239 --> 01:19:59.600
you know, because it's been wild, like at least four.

1801
01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:01.600
Very welcome to me because I was a big I

1802
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:03.119
was a big pusher for these movies.

1803
01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:06.359
Yeah, I just don't think we were that close of

1804
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:07.319
friends in twenty eleven.

1805
01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:11.119
We were leaning because that would have been Babysitter was

1806
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:12.359
shot twenty twelve.

1807
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:16.520
Yes, yes, the end of twenty yeah twelve, Yeah, maybe,

1808
01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:19.880
but either way, I just I just remember being told, hey,

1809
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:22.479
that one's you know, the other one's are really good too,

1810
01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:24.439
because I think I'd only seen two at that point.

1811
01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:26.079
But that was what made me want to go see us.

1812
01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:28.039
I was, damn, they are not messing around, like there's

1813
01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:29.920
still It's kind of like how those later saw movies.

1814
01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:32.520
No matter how you felt about the story, they still

1815
01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:34.279
went all out and coming up with the contraption.

1816
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:37.920
Absolutely did No, I I will defend the Saw movies

1817
01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:41.560
except for Spiral, which Spiral I don't hate. It's just

1818
01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:43.680
I really had a lot of promise with that movie

1819
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:44.520
and was let down.

1820
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:45.560
He hates it.

1821
01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:48.439
I do not hate it. But anyway, so back to Todd.

1822
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:50.319
He is his eyes are going bloodshot. He is trying

1823
01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:52.439
to cut this wire, can't get to it. Alex is

1824
01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:54.279
approaching his house more and more, but by the time

1825
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:56.840
he gets to it, Todd's dead. And then we get

1826
01:20:56.840 --> 01:20:58.720
to the only instance of this happening in any of

1827
01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:02.279
the final of this Nation series. Death basically undoes the

1828
01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:05.119
water slip and sucks everything back into the toilet, making

1829
01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:06.439
it seem like it was a suicide.

1830
01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:08.079
Well, and I think that I know you said, like,

1831
01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:10.520
this is the only time Death covered its tracks. Yes

1832
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:13.439
and no, because because this was just the only one

1833
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:14.720
that definitely looked like a suicide.

1834
01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:17.640
Suicide. Yeah, at first like accidents.

1835
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:21.520
And then start to look like Devin Salah's committing murder. Yes,

1836
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:25.840
so the teacher's wacky dead. Oh my god, we'll get there.

1837
01:21:26.079 --> 01:21:29.960
We'll get there so good. So by this point his

1838
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.520
death is ruled a suicide. His dad straight up tells

1839
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:34.199
Alex that he does not want to see him anymore,

1840
01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:36.840
calls him a murderer and says that it's all his fault. Yeah,

1841
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:38.960
he blames He says that, like, my son was so

1842
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:42.359
distraught with guilt that he killed himself. And he's like,

1843
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:44.920
why would he kill himself? He makes a really good point,

1844
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:47.520
says like we were making plans, Yeah, why would he

1845
01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:49.840
why he was not suicide and then kill himself.

1846
01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:52.960
Yeah. So by this point Alex and Clear have spoken

1847
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:54.520
a little bit more on it, and they get the

1848
01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:56.640
idea that they're going to sneak into the funeral home

1849
01:21:56.680 --> 01:22:00.439
to examine Todd's corpse, and ladies and gentlemen, this is

1850
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:04.239
where we get our honorable cameo of the late Great

1851
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:08.159
Tony Todd is William Bludworth. They break into the name too,

1852
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:10.720
I know, they break into the mortuary. They're looking for

1853
01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:12.880
his body. They find his body, but it doesn't look

1854
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:15.039
anything like him at this point because of the strangulation.

1855
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.800
And that's when William Bloodworth comes in and tells them

1856
01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:21.319
that he basically knows who both of them are, knows

1857
01:22:21.359 --> 01:22:25.600
Alex by name, and I mean at this point he

1858
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:30.359
goes into this monologue about how you cannot change the

1859
01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:32.840
path of death. Yeah, when death comes for you, it

1860
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:34.239
comes for you, and if you miss it, if it

1861
01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:36.319
misses you, it's still gonna come back. Because one of

1862
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:39.399
my favorite lines is that that's one mac daddy you

1863
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:40.439
don't want to fuck with.

1864
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:46.199
Well, and he's a great it's a great pivot moment

1865
01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:49.119
to make you understand what's going on without like totally

1866
01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:51.840
spelling it out, because yeah, who is going to have

1867
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:55.880
more of an opinion of death than the guy at

1868
01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:58.880
the mortuary who sees dead people every single day.

1869
01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:02.399
In death, there are no accidents, no coincidences, no mishaps,

1870
01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:03.399
no escapes.

1871
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:06.640
It's it's it's a damn fine scene.

1872
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:09.880
Yeah, And I mean that is that is basically where

1873
01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:12.960
we get the idea that Tony Todd is death in

1874
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:16.239
this franchise. But I have some trivia at the end

1875
01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:19.000
that may or may not change that for us.

1876
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:20.199
I'm very curious.

1877
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:23.680
So by this point, Alex is realizing that now death

1878
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:25.279
is coming for them and he's got to figure out

1879
01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:27.479
what the order is that they died in the premonition

1880
01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:30.119
because there is a change to that, and also they're

1881
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:32.399
just discussing their next move. They end up going to

1882
01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:34.800
a cafe and that is when we see Kurt Smith

1883
01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:37.239
is out with his girlfriend. We see that Shawn Wallis

1884
01:23:37.239 --> 01:23:40.039
Scott's riding Behy on his bicycle. One thing leads to another,

1885
01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:43.640
and Carter decides to run. Oh god, I can't think

1886
01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:45.880
of his name in the h What is his name?

1887
01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:48.319
Is a Billy you're talking about? Deal? No?

1888
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:49.800
No, no, I know, Alex is it? I think it's

1889
01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:52.760
Billy is Shawn ways Gott? Yeah, Billy Hitchcock. Billy runs

1890
01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:55.319
Billy off his bike and all while this happens right

1891
01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:57.880
in front of Clear and Alex also val Lewton, their

1892
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:00.600
teacher comes out. So now all the survivors are gathered

1893
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:01.319
on a corner, and.

1894
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:02.760
Have we appreciated yet?

1895
01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:05.960
Val Luten, Val Luton, Oh, I've got the whole list

1896
01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:06.359
at the end.

1897
01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:09.560
Is that okay? Good? Yeah? That's a deep cut, good cut.

1898
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:12.000
I guess you didn't hear the other teacher's name. Now

1899
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:17.079
what was it? Now? Yeah, m you are in a you?

1900
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:19.359
Oh yeah, that one doesn't ring a bell for some reason.

1901
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:22.039
I think that's the director of No Saratu. Oh really,

1902
01:24:22.079 --> 01:24:22.880
I'm not mistaken yet.

1903
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:26.239
Well, and then I mean Shrek was the name of Yeah,

1904
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:27.279
there's a lot.

1905
01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:29.239
Yeah, so by this point, they're at the cafe. They've

1906
01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:32.880
all caught up and uh, his girlfriend, h Carter's girlfriend

1907
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:34.479
is freaking out, and she's just like, you know, if

1908
01:24:34.479 --> 01:24:35.800
this is what you're go if this is what you're

1909
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:37.439
gonna do, like I don't want to be a part

1910
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:38.760
of it, and this this is how you're gonna waste

1911
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:40.720
your life, then you can both drop fucking dead, which

1912
01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:42.600
is the famous line as she walks into the street

1913
01:24:42.600 --> 01:24:45.439
and gets ran over by a bus.

1914
01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:49.039
And and it's a great example of so you thought

1915
01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:52.840
you understood because we had this long drawn out thing,

1916
01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:55.479
but yeah, so just get you, just get you, just

1917
01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:55.800
get you.

1918
01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:58.119
And it sprays Alex with blood, who also now has

1919
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:00.359
a seven on his face if you look really closely.

1920
01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:02.920
Yeah, there's a lot of Easter eggs in this. Oh yeah. Yeah.

1921
01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:05.079
So, after watching a news report on the cause of

1922
01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:08.039
the explosion, Alex then deduces that death is reclaiming the

1923
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:10.000
survivors in the order that they took on the plane.

1924
01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:13.079
And now he's realizing that it's coming to miss Luton.

1925
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.359
So Luton has by this point decided that she is

1926
01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:18.359
leaving town. She's left the school, and we cut to

1927
01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:20.319
her house and she's packing, she's talking to her a

1928
01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:24.720
psychiatrist on the phone, and everything that happens.

1929
01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:29.199
This, my god, this is honestly probably the most famous. Yeah,

1930
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:30.960
I would say, so, yeah, I would say. So.

1931
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:33.640
We see that she is uneasy, she's drinking some tea.

1932
01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:35.600
She finishes her tea and she puts some new one on.

1933
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:37.199
And one thing I forgot to mention so far is

1934
01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:40.359
that every time death is sneaking into these people's lives,

1935
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:44.239
we get like a black cloud like figure of it, almost.

1936
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:46.319
A shadow, like a shadow with nothing, kind of like

1937
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:49.840
ghost with Patrick Squayze, you say that about every movie

1938
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:53.800
I do, every movie? No, no, yeah, yeah, I would agree.

1939
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:56.039
So Luton is packing up her stuff, she hangs up

1940
01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:57.880
with a psychiatrist, and she wants to make more tea,

1941
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.079
so she goes to the stove, puts another tea pot on,

1942
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:03.199
and by this point she realizes that she's not moved

1943
01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:06.119
for tea because she gets spooked again, and so she

1944
01:26:06.199 --> 01:26:08.600
goes to the closet grabs a record to put on

1945
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:10.640
that just so happens to be Rocky Mountain High by

1946
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:11.239
John Denver.

1947
01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:12.239
Oh boy.

1948
01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:15.079
And since she got spooked by I think it's like

1949
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:17.159
a spider or something in her glass. She decides that

1950
01:26:17.159 --> 01:26:20.560
she's going to switch from hot tea to vodka from

1951
01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:24.000
her freezer. From her freezer, which automatically cracks the mug

1952
01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:26.560
as she's pouring in with a cheap mug, so she's

1953
01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:29.199
walking around her house the vodka is just dripping on

1954
01:26:29.199 --> 01:26:31.239
the floor. She doesn't realize that it's cracked at this point,

1955
01:26:31.279 --> 01:26:33.479
and also goes over to start packing up her computer.

1956
01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:35.800
As she's holding the mug over, the water drips or

1957
01:26:35.800 --> 01:26:38.039
the vodka drips into the computer and starts shorting it out.

1958
01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:41.079
She goes back to packing another box, and also by

1959
01:26:41.079 --> 01:26:44.199
this point too, Alex is walking somewhere around the neighborhood

1960
01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:47.960
and we get another premonition of ashes. Ashes surround him,

1961
01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:48.920
and he knows that something's up.

1962
01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:51.359
Not just ashes, they're like ember ashes, They're like they're

1963
01:26:51.399 --> 01:26:54.920
freshly like lighting up. They're on fire currently.

1964
01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:57.880
So by this point now Alex realizes that she's in danger.

1965
01:26:57.960 --> 01:26:59.920
He was probably already walking over there for that matter too,

1966
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:03.520
and he rushes over. But Luton is packing a box.

1967
01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:05.640
She hears her computer short out, goes up to it,

1968
01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:07.920
and right behind her is the shot of her front door,

1969
01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:11.920
which is the glass design of a dagger, which just

1970
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.680
so happens to be very good foreshadowing as the computer

1971
01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:17.840
monitor burst sending a piece of shard right into her neck.

1972
01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:21.000
Yes, which I mean, I guess it was a dell.

1973
01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:25.399
So when the computer shorts out naturally, it also catches

1974
01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:28.119
all the vodka on fire that is dripped. So now

1975
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:31.159
fire is going up to her and by this point

1976
01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:35.560
she is bleeding from the neck. She slips onto something

1977
01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:37.039
that I think it might be the vodka, so I

1978
01:27:37.079 --> 01:27:38.520
can't remember. There's so much that happens.

1979
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:38.840
Yeah.

1980
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:41.960
Yeah, So she's reaching up trying to she pulls the

1981
01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:43.640
shard out of her neck, and that's when she decides

1982
01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:45.920
that she's also going to pull this towel up that

1983
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:47.439
is over this night she's.

1984
01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:50.760
Trying to her because now she's laying on the floor.

1985
01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:51.319
Yeah.

1986
01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:54.560
And I do want to say, just real quick, uh huh,

1987
01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:57.640
that I know you were talking about, like vodka probably

1988
01:27:57.680 --> 01:27:58.800
wouldn't light up like that.

1989
01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:01.359
I don't think it would and stuff like that. Yeah.

1990
01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:05.840
And my response is in this film, death kind of

1991
01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:07.359
uses cheek codes a bit.

1992
01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:09.880
Yeah, but the Rube Goldberg cheek.

1993
01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:12.159
Yeah, I said, I said. This ghost also known by

1994
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:15.119
the other name Rube Goldberg, well the other the other.

1995
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.560
If I had written this scene, yes, I would have

1996
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:19.279
had her be like I would have had her open

1997
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:21.920
the freezer, pull out the vodka bottle, have it be empty,

1998
01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:25.760
and then she'd go and grab a box like uh

1999
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:27.760
like this other just said like from mom with love

2000
01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:30.119
and it just says like Kentucky on the address or something,

2001
01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:32.000
and have her open it up and it'd be shine. Yeah,

2002
01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:34.439
that would be my way to fix that, but of

2003
01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:36.640
course that would make the scene a lot longer, yes,

2004
01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:39.000
when what we really need to do is talk about

2005
01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:42.039
getting that towel off of the Oh my god.

2006
01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:44.640
So by this point she's fallen on the ground, which

2007
01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:46.680
also skipped the record which made Rocky Mountain the High

2008
01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:49.279
start over. So she's also trying to get this towel

2009
01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:51.159
off a knife rack. Naturally, it's sitted right over the

2010
01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:53.159
knife rack to where she pulls it down. The knife

2011
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:55.760
rack goes and gets she gets rained on by blades,

2012
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:58.840
one specifically right into her chest, right into the middle

2013
01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:01.119
of her chest, and by this Alex has gotten into

2014
01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:02.720
the house. He's like, you know, how can I help?

2015
01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:05.439
And then and she's just looking at like because she's

2016
01:29:05.479 --> 01:29:07.000
dying yeah. And then the fire is caught up to

2017
01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:09.479
the oven, which makes the oven explode. Yes, and then

2018
01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:12.119
knock a chair down that hammers the knife into her chest,

2019
01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:12.680
killing her.

2020
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:15.840
Which that that it was like a vampire movie. The

2021
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:18.800
chair tips over and just deep digs it deeper in.

2022
01:29:19.119 --> 01:29:21.279
But what does he do? And I will say, Yeah,

2023
01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:23.800
you gotta give his character a little bit of a break.

2024
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:25.800
He's a kid, Yeah, supposed to be like seventeen or

2025
01:29:25.840 --> 01:29:28.920
eighteen years old. So the first thought he has is

2026
01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:30.600
he pulls the knife out of her chest, try and help.

2027
01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:33.359
But now he's standing in the with a blood knife,

2028
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:35.720
dead teacher. And as he walks out, you see his

2029
01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:37.079
footprints in the blood.

2030
01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:39.359
Yes. And then by this point also Billy is riding

2031
01:29:39.399 --> 01:29:41.399
past the house on his bike. Alex comes running out

2032
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:43.760
of the house. The house explodes, knocks both of them

2033
01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:46.199
to the ground, and now the cops have him by

2034
01:29:46.279 --> 01:29:48.399
another or near another body.

2035
01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:49.880
Yeah, it's not looking great.

2036
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:50.720
It's not looking great.

2037
01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:54.159
It's starting to look like I believe what they determined.

2038
01:29:54.199 --> 01:29:56.520
They were saying that his survivor's guilt had pushed him

2039
01:29:56.520 --> 01:29:56.920
to kill.

2040
01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:00.000
Yeah. And it gets worse because they interrogate him again

2041
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:02.560
and he basically says, the longer you keep me in here,

2042
01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:04.520
somebody else might die. But what if we keep you

2043
01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:06.560
in here and nobody dies is basically.

2044
01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:08.000
The question I did like that's line.

2045
01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:09.560
But they have nothing to hold him on, so they

2046
01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:12.399
have to let him go. So by this point everybody

2047
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:12.920
is nervous.

2048
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:16.560
Had bloody shoe bloody would he have OJ's lawyer come on?

2049
01:30:16.640 --> 01:30:20.520
Apparently, So Carter clear Billy all end up meeting in

2050
01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:23.199
Carter's car as they're all driving, and that's when Alex

2051
01:30:23.279 --> 01:30:25.640
is trying to explain to them that there is a pattern,

2052
01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:28.199
but he won't say who's next because Carter wants to know.

2053
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:30.439
Carter is fucking scared at this point. He's just like

2054
01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:32.960
I can't die, but like who's next on the list?

2055
01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:34.319
And he will not tell him, and he's like it's me,

2056
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:36.600
isn't it. So there's a whole scene where Carter has

2057
01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:39.640
them speeding in his car. He's playing dangerously and then

2058
01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:43.199
trying to go past traffic, ending with them parking on

2059
01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:43.840
the train.

2060
01:30:43.680 --> 01:30:45.560
Tracks, which why not?

2061
01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:46.039
Why not?

2062
01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:46.920
Right? Come on?

2063
01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:48.760
So everybody gets out of the car, of course, because

2064
01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:50.800
the train is approaching, except for Carter, who's just like

2065
01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:52.359
I can't die, you know, And if I am going

2066
01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:53.640
to die, then I want to be the one in

2067
01:30:53.640 --> 01:30:54.159
control of it.

2068
01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:56.600
Well, he does say something great right before his girlfriend dies,

2069
01:30:56.600 --> 01:30:58.279
where he says like, I'm never gonna die. Yeah, I

2070
01:30:58.319 --> 01:30:59.880
was like, wow, teenager just saying what.

2071
01:30:59.880 --> 01:31:02.840
The And so by this point now he is also

2072
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:05.039
the only one left in the car and stuck with

2073
01:31:05.119 --> 01:31:07.199
his seat belt because the seat belt will not unbuckle

2074
01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:10.239
when the train is approaching and approaching. Finally Alex pulls

2075
01:31:10.319 --> 01:31:11.960
him loose from the car. They all hit the ground.

2076
01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:15.920
The car gets smashed by the train, and they're fighting.

2077
01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:17.680
You've got Billy who's freaked out at this point, and

2078
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:18.960
he's just like, I'm not gonna be here any of

2079
01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:22.000
you guys. Before all this is happening, we see a

2080
01:31:22.039 --> 01:31:24.079
piece of metal, a jagged piece of metal on the

2081
01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:26.239
train tracks, just flipping up and down while the train

2082
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:29.640
goes past it. And then a wheel hits it, spins it,

2083
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:31.399
and Billy.

2084
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:36.239
Gets decapitated straight up, head cut off, head.

2085
01:31:36.039 --> 01:31:38.119
Cut off, falls to the ground. The corpse is standing

2086
01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:40.199
in that classic fashion for a couple seconds and then

2087
01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:40.960
topples over.

2088
01:31:41.159 --> 01:31:43.359
And I want to point out that so far the

2089
01:31:43.439 --> 01:31:48.399
deaths in this film have been consistently different, yeah, from

2090
01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:50.640
each other, because you have the of the plane explosion,

2091
01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:54.119
but then you have the quasi suicide, which is strangulation,

2092
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:56.800
which was very slow drawn out and gruesome. Then you

2093
01:31:56.840 --> 01:32:00.920
have the teacher getting stabbed through the art. It's very

2094
01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:04.239
gruesome in your face, visceral. Yeah, but I would say

2095
01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:06.000
very different. You had the bus just before that, you

2096
01:32:06.039 --> 01:32:10.319
had the bus smashing the girl out of nowhere, really startling. Yeah,

2097
01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:13.720
and now and now you have just an out of

2098
01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:17.680
nowhere decapitation. And I love that because it keeps you

2099
01:32:17.880 --> 01:32:20.319
really on edge. It does because you're like, okay, so

2100
01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:23.279
it can either creep up on you or just just happen.

2101
01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:25.319
Just happened. And I mean and as we get further

2102
01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:27.800
into the movies, that happens way more where it's just

2103
01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:30.000
like the deaths are one shots. There's no Rube Goldberg

2104
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:31.720
of this pipe hit going there. It's just like, oh no,

2105
01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:33.119
this thing broke loosen and paled you.

2106
01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:35.640
They usually go the most on that in the opening, yeah,

2107
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:38.279
which I appreciate, which the opening is of course the uh,

2108
01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:39.920
the premonition, remedition.

2109
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:44.000
Yeah. So now Alex is completely paranoid. He's also talked

2110
01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:45.840
to Clear. By this point, there's a really cute scene

2111
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:48.399
where he goes to see Clear, who is working on

2112
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:50.640
she does like shop work and like does like steal

2113
01:32:51.359 --> 01:32:53.960
sculptures and actually as stulted Alex because she basically says,

2114
01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:55.760
like I look at you and like we used to

2115
01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:58.359
be close, but like I didn't know you for so long,

2116
01:32:58.399 --> 01:32:59.760
and then that night at the airport, I feel like

2117
01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:02.680
I understood you again. Yeah, but you also still confuse me.

2118
01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:05.399
But by this point the chicks are weird. But by

2119
01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:08.239
this point too, Alex is completely paranoid, and he has

2120
01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:10.720
isolated himself from everybody in this cabin that he's fortified.

2121
01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:14.520
He's duct taped everything so that it doesn't fall down lamps.

2122
01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:18.279
And I gotta say his level of care perfect for

2123
01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:20.680
a teenage boy. He's putting duct tape against all the

2124
01:33:20.720 --> 01:33:23.000
things on the side of the wall to keep it all.

2125
01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:25.279
There, and the edges are taken care of.

2126
01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:28.560
He's eating one can of cat cat food with gloves

2127
01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:31.319
with yeah, he puts on gloves to do anything. Yep,

2128
01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:33.920
it's and he has a fire extinguisher right next to

2129
01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:37.800
where he's sitting and even still was in a fishing

2130
01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:39.920
pole falls over and starts opening a door.

2131
01:33:40.039 --> 01:33:43.479
Death is a caddy bitch and blows into the into

2132
01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:45.680
the cabin, knocks over a trash can, which knocks over

2133
01:33:45.720 --> 01:33:48.079
a can that goes into a fishing pole that pulls

2134
01:33:48.319 --> 01:33:52.239
that falls over, and the holes the hooks, the door handle.

2135
01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:56.159
He holds it shut, and a blade. Apparently that whole

2136
01:33:56.359 --> 01:33:58.720
closet was just full of death implements, yes.

2137
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:01.159
Fish hooks a site that God knows what else is

2138
01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:03.199
in there, and he basically tells Death, I got you,

2139
01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:05.239
like you can't get me. I got you. You may

2140
01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:06.760
not be able to get me right now, or you

2141
01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:07.920
may be able to get me later, but you can't

2142
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:09.960
get me right now. I got this place fucking sealed up.

2143
01:34:10.159 --> 01:34:14.399
Yeah, which it's adorable. He thought that this was. Yeah.

2144
01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:18.439
So as we get to the conclusion of Final Destination,

2145
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:21.319
he is in this cabin. He's shooting paper wads, and

2146
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:23.000
we also see that Clear is back at her house

2147
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:25.880
home alone this night, and a storm starts moving through,

2148
01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:28.720
so he throws one ball of paper and it leads

2149
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:30.560
him to his yearbook, where he sees the two girls

2150
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:34.239
that swept seats, the feeling that he did not, so

2151
01:34:34.279 --> 01:34:36.680
his order is off. Now and now he realizes that

2152
01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:40.399
death is going for Clear. Yes, and it's clear. It's

2153
01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:43.079
clear as day, clear as day. So as he's running

2154
01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:45.520
out of the cabin, the FBI agents have actually arrived

2155
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:47.880
at this point, and he gets into a canoe and

2156
01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:50.199
escapes the authorities on a canoe.

2157
01:34:50.279 --> 01:34:54.159
For as serious as this whole situation is, yeah, him

2158
01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:57.239
escaping on a canoe with a paddle is very funny.

2159
01:34:57.000 --> 01:34:59.159
Especially if they have guns drawn, and they easily could

2160
01:34:59.199 --> 01:34:59.760
have stopped him.

2161
01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:03.720
Well luckily Roebuck, as I said, the trustworthy bureaucrat. Yeah,

2162
01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:06.359
in any film, Yeah, it was like, well, just get

2163
01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:08.039
in the cars and we'll drive around. We'll catch him

2164
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:09.760
over there. It's like, yeah, you don't know that he's

2165
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:11.039
done anything, don't shoot him.

2166
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:13.640
So Clear is at her house and she is in

2167
01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:17.319
her bedroom. A candle suddenly blows out and we start

2168
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:18.800
to hear some shorting out. So she goes out of

2169
01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:21.239
the bedroom and at this point the bedroom just catches fire.

2170
01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:22.880
Yeah, out of nowhere.

2171
01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:27.479
Yeah, So everything starts catching fire in her house and

2172
01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:29.720
by this point Alex has somehow made it across the

2173
01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:32.760
lake and record time and is approaching her house. He

2174
01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:35.079
goes through the Woods ends up tripping, almost getting him

2175
01:35:35.079 --> 01:35:36.560
paled by a log at one point.

2176
01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:39.279
Yes, oh man, that's one of those moments I always

2177
01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:41.560
remember too. He rolls down a hill, yeah, stops right

2178
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:43.199
in front of a big splinter.

2179
01:35:42.960 --> 01:35:45.439
Which reminded me of Steve Martin in Planes Trains. And

2180
01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:47.760
that's basically what this movie is missing is del Griffith.

2181
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:50.399
It's the only thing that's going to say, we've got

2182
01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:53.000
I'm gonna get you back to Chicago and away from death.

2183
01:35:54.479 --> 01:35:57.199
So he gets to clear his house. By this point,

2184
01:35:57.199 --> 01:35:59.800
a live wire has broken loose and is going everywhere.

2185
01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:02.920
Clear is in the backyard trying to save her dog,

2186
01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:05.479
and by doing so also breaks her pool, which now

2187
01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:08.000
has water going all over the backyard. So now the

2188
01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:10.199
live wires is getting ready touch the water. She ends

2189
01:36:10.279 --> 01:36:12.399
up missing it just barely and is like clinging to

2190
01:36:12.640 --> 01:36:14.600
a uh oh shit, what do they call it? What's

2191
01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:16.039
the thing on the side of the house that you

2192
01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:19.600
can climb? A trellis truss? So she clean she's clinging

2193
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:22.159
to a trellis. By this point, Alex has arrived. He's like,

2194
01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:24.079
you know, I'll take care of it. She gets back

2195
01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:27.359
into her house, somehow gets into the garage is in

2196
01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:29.399
the is getting it ready to drive the car out.

2197
01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:31.960
The garage door fails, the wire breaks loose again in

2198
01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:34.199
the garage. It's a crazy ass scene.

2199
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:37.720
It's an incredible scene, and I apologize I lost my

2200
01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:41.319
concentration because I just started thinking of Del Griffith, Del,

2201
01:36:41.359 --> 01:36:44.039
what are you doing here? My wife's been gone for

2202
01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:46.600
nine years. I was supposed to be in that car too,

2203
01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:50.319
but I had eaten some clams and they weren't settling right.

2204
01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:53.560
So I told her i'd catch up with her anyway

2205
01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:55.239
so I could.

2206
01:36:57.199 --> 01:36:59.439
The next time. Desk coming for you have a point?

2207
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:02.279
Okay, it's so much better for the person you're trying

2208
01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:05.760
to kill, Like, am I gonna die because the mouthwash

2209
01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:08.279
is flammable? Am I gonna die because the bed's electric

2210
01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:09.720
and you've got beer all over it?

2211
01:37:09.760 --> 01:37:15.920
Blanes trains all destinations like your final So she gets

2212
01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:18.800
the car out. By this point, also, the wire has

2213
01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:21.159
now gone right by the car, and he's like, you know,

2214
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:23.039
stay in the car. The rubbers grounded, Like you're good,

2215
01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:25.680
I'm gonna take care of this. He grabs the wire.

2216
01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:28.319
It blows him back in the garage. The power completely

2217
01:37:28.359 --> 01:37:31.760
of gets shut down by this point and everybody's safe.

2218
01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:35.199
And this part I had actually forgotten how the movie

2219
01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:39.359
ended somewhat. I forgot that, like it was it all

2220
01:37:39.399 --> 01:37:45.319
happens like that because the concept of him dying than

2221
01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:49.359
getting resuscitated to full death because I had seen all

2222
01:37:49.399 --> 01:37:51.800
the sequels. Yeah, my brain was like, no, death is

2223
01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:54.600
way too pernisial. Oh we haven't established that. Yeah, we

2224
01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:59.159
haven't established that death is impossibly pernicious. That's in the sequels.

2225
01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:00.640
This it's taddy.

2226
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:03.520
So in this one, it's like it's like a you know,

2227
01:38:03.800 --> 01:38:04.680
a technicality.

2228
01:38:04.720 --> 01:38:06.880
Yeah, so we get a fake out. We see that

2229
01:38:07.039 --> 01:38:08.640
like there's a white light, but then we see that

2230
01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:11.119
they're exit and airplane, and that's when we see that.

2231
01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:13.560
It's six months later now and Alex Clear and Carter

2232
01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:17.119
have finally traveled to Paris. So they're enjoying some beers

2233
01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:20.840
at a local place. There's some atmosphere going on, and

2234
01:38:20.880 --> 01:38:24.000
it's it's a good time, except for Alex is still unsure,

2235
01:38:24.439 --> 01:38:27.000
and he reveals that he thinks that death never skipped

2236
01:38:27.039 --> 01:38:30.840
them because after saving Clear, he's now kind of restarted everything.

2237
01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:32.720
And why would he be worried. I mean, everything's going great.

2238
01:38:32.720 --> 01:38:35.039
They're in Paris and Clear are both blonde now.

2239
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:35.840
For some reason.

2240
01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:37.720
Yeah, you know, everything's coming up good.

2241
01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:39.920
And then the guitar guy behind them that was playing

2242
01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:43.239
some other songs starts playing a French version of Rocky

2243
01:38:43.239 --> 01:38:46.840
Mountain High Yep. And we also see that a pipe

2244
01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:50.800
is rolling across some some like scaffolding that knocks over

2245
01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:51.640
all these nails.

2246
01:38:51.680 --> 01:38:54.319
Yeah, we see a lot of mouse trap ass shit happening.

2247
01:38:54.479 --> 01:38:57.399
We do. As a bus is coming closer as well,

2248
01:38:57.439 --> 01:38:59.119
we see that Alex is uneasy. He's like, I'll beat

2249
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:00.600
you guys back at the hotel and Clear He's like, no, no,

2250
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:03.119
I'll go with you. He's like, no, stay here, And

2251
01:39:03.159 --> 01:39:05.279
as he's walking out of the street, Clear uh you know,

2252
01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:08.479
gets his attention. The bus barely misses him in doing so,

2253
01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:12.119
goes off path, runs into a car, runs into this sign.

2254
01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:14.479
This sign gets knocked loose and it's getting ready to

2255
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:16.760
head right for Alex. Carter comes in and pushes him

2256
01:39:16.800 --> 01:39:18.880
right out of the way, and that's when he's like, uh,

2257
01:39:18.960 --> 01:39:22.079
you know, I told you like we're okay, and he's like, no,

2258
01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:23.920
it wasn't me. And he's like, well then who is it?

2259
01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:27.560
As the sign swings back one eighty and that is

2260
01:39:27.840 --> 01:39:30.239
two thousands its final destination.

2261
01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:34.000
Yes, yes, and and like I said, solid ending, but

2262
01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:36.720
after seeing all the sequels, I forgot that the first

2263
01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:40.479
one had such a quaint yeah ending basically that he

2264
01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:41.319
cheats death.

2265
01:39:41.119 --> 01:39:44.439
By coming back and then yeah, Carter gets it in

2266
01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:46.520
a one eighty sign that literally says one eighty as

2267
01:39:46.520 --> 01:39:47.159
it comes back.

2268
01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:50.119
The flight number, which is another They hide so many

2269
01:39:50.159 --> 01:39:52.039
great little little tidbits in there.

2270
01:39:52.359 --> 01:39:54.000
So would you like to know what the budget was

2271
01:39:54.039 --> 01:39:57.159
on the film? Yes, twenty three million.

2272
01:39:57.039 --> 01:39:58.359
Oh that's pretty reasonable.

2273
01:39:58.479 --> 01:40:02.199
Opening weekend is March nineteenth, of two thousand, takes in

2274
01:40:02.279 --> 01:40:05.960
ten million US gross, ends up being fifty three million,

2275
01:40:06.960 --> 01:40:10.520
grossing worldwide one hundred and twelve million dollars.

2276
01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:13.720
Not bad, especially back then. That would definitely be considered

2277
01:40:13.760 --> 01:40:14.039
a hit.

2278
01:40:14.119 --> 01:40:18.840
Yeah. Absolutely Filmed in Vancouver, Victoria, Canada. Filming began January

2279
01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:21.279
eleventh of ninety nine and wrapped May twenty eighth of

2280
01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:23.479
ninety nine, with one pickup shot in November. I want

2281
01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:24.159
to say, nice.

2282
01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:27.800
Yeah, yeah, that's it's crazy because like that's actually a

2283
01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:30.680
pretty expensive horror movie for that time period especially, and

2284
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:31.840
it really paid off.

2285
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:33.920
Yeah. So the story was originally going to be a

2286
01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:36.000
concept for an episode of The X Files, which was

2287
01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:38.520
inspired by Soul Survivor, the movie you told me about

2288
01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:39.119
from eighty four.

2289
01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:43.000
I love Soul Survivor. Extremely underrated.

2290
01:40:43.039 --> 01:40:45.319
I need to check it out. In this movie. It's

2291
01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:48.199
still not cheap. Oh I should. Yeah. In this movie,

2292
01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:50.159
a woman who was a sole survivor of a plane

2293
01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:52.359
craft starts to be haunted by dead people that death

2294
01:40:52.479 --> 01:40:54.880
uses temporarily as vessels trying to kill her to correct

2295
01:40:54.880 --> 01:40:56.800
explan in killing everyone who suspected.

2296
01:40:56.920 --> 01:40:58.960
Yeah, and for those trying to say it's a ripoff,

2297
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:01.199
I wouldn't call it a rip off because sole survivor

2298
01:41:01.279 --> 01:41:04.359
is very it's very different death is in these like

2299
01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:08.800
zombie like beings. Yeah, it's basically in sole survivor. Anyone

2300
01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:12.840
who dies, anyone can now become this vessel trying to

2301
01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:13.720
kill the people that.

2302
01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:17.800
Were almost like, don't kill it. Kind of yeah. Kind

2303
01:41:18.239 --> 01:41:20.000
In the first draft of the script, the survivors that

2304
01:41:20.039 --> 01:41:22.279
get off the plane were seven strangers. Due to teen

2305
01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:24.680
Slash's popularity at the time, the survivors were changed to

2306
01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:25.560
high school students.

2307
01:41:26.039 --> 01:41:27.199
That makes sense. Yeah.

2308
01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:29.680
A miniature model of a Boeing seven forty seven airplane

2309
01:41:29.720 --> 01:41:32.000
was created for the explosion scene. The model, one of

2310
01:41:32.039 --> 01:41:34.520
the most detailed miniature scenes in the film, was about

2311
01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:37.119
ten feet long and seven feet wide. The landing gear

2312
01:41:37.199 --> 01:41:39.960
was made from all machine metals. According to visual effects

2313
01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:43.279
supervisor Aerial Vascalo Shaw, the miniature had to be launched

2314
01:41:43.279 --> 01:41:45.159
about forty feet up in the air to make it

2315
01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:47.760
look like a real Bowing seven forty seven exploded into

2316
01:41:47.760 --> 01:41:50.359
a fireball. If blowing up a four foot plane, the

2317
01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:53.079
explosion must be a minimum of eight feet in the air.

2318
01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:55.640
To film the explosion in detail, the crew used three

2319
01:41:55.640 --> 01:41:58.119
cameras running one hundred and twenty frames per second and

2320
01:41:58.119 --> 01:42:00.960
one camera running three hundred frames per second. If they

2321
01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:03.039
had filmed using a real time camera, the succession of

2322
01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:05.359
the explosion would not be filmed in particular order.

2323
01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:07.640
Well, and it's important to keep in mind that when

2324
01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:11.039
when things get smaller, yeah, the mass decreases, So the

2325
01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:14.359
bigger something is, the slower it is able to move.

2326
01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:16.479
So there's actually, I don't know it, but there's a

2327
01:42:16.840 --> 01:42:18.880
Brett Piper actually taught me this. He's a guy who's

2328
01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:21.760
all about stop motion animation and miniatures and stuff like that.

2329
01:42:22.279 --> 01:42:25.560
He taught me that you can do a mathematical equation

2330
01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:29.159
for what frame rate the camera should roll at in

2331
01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:32.039
order to create the mass of the object. Okay, and

2332
01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:34.760
it's why. One of my favorite examples of this is

2333
01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:39.359
when Godzilla roars in the old Toho movies. I'm sure

2334
01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:41.920
you probably remember that. There's always that moment where you're like, Oh,

2335
01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:43.239
he's gonna do it, He's gonna do it.

2336
01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:45.760
He goes Eh.

2337
01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:48.000
The reason for that long wait is because they had

2338
01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:49.920
to speed the camera up to make him look like

2339
01:42:49.960 --> 01:42:52.560
he has masks. Yeah, so when the actor in the

2340
01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:55.199
suit is told like, now roar, that's gonna happen like

2341
01:42:55.800 --> 01:43:00.279
seven seconds later because time is way, way faster. So

2342
01:43:00.680 --> 01:43:01.840
that makes perfect sense.

2343
01:43:02.159 --> 01:43:04.520
Two hundred and eighty seven people die in Flight one

2344
01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:07.119
eighty disaster. The plane was built on a gimbal to

2345
01:43:07.119 --> 01:43:09.399
make it shake. The plane was set. The plane set

2346
01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:11.600
was later torn down and changed to Clear's top floor,

2347
01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:13.159
which she runs through in the storm sequence.

2348
01:43:13.239 --> 01:43:14.399
Oh nice, that makes sense.

2349
01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:17.119
The flight charterboard in the airport was not part of

2350
01:43:17.159 --> 01:43:20.760
the scene. It was a CGI effect. When everyone stares

2351
01:43:20.760 --> 01:43:23.239
at Alex after the plane explodes, both Billy or both

2352
01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:25.960
Terry and Billy's deaths are foreshadowed. While Terry is staring

2353
01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:28.960
at Alex, there's a picture of a bus in the background.

2354
01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.000
While Billy is looking up at the plane taking off,

2355
01:43:31.039 --> 01:43:33.159
the reflection of the plane is shown across his face.

2356
01:43:33.239 --> 01:43:35.079
It is flying in line right where the piece of

2357
01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:38.880
car decapitates him later in the film, That's perfect. Much

2358
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.039
of the news footage shown is actual footage from the

2359
01:43:41.079 --> 01:43:44.319
July nineteen ninety six explosion and crass of TWA flight

2360
01:43:44.359 --> 01:43:48.159
eight hundred off East Marches Long Island, New York.

2361
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:49.560
Oh wow. Yeah.

2362
01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:52.920
The Alka Selter sequence which follows Terry getting hit by

2363
01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:55.359
the bus had to be extended as test audiences were

2364
01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:56.720
still recovering from shock.

2365
01:43:57.079 --> 01:43:58.640
Yeah, that is now that you mention it.

2366
01:43:58.640 --> 01:43:59.079
It's long.

2367
01:43:59.159 --> 01:44:01.039
It's a bit long, which makes sense. It gives them

2368
01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:02.359
a second to catch their breath and figure out what

2369
01:44:02.359 --> 01:44:03.000
the hell's going on.

2370
01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:06.199
Yeah. On his way to missus Luton's house, Alexy's ashes

2371
01:44:06.199 --> 01:44:09.720
floating around his head, foreshadowing the fire. The exterior of

2372
01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:12.159
miss Luton's house was built in five days. The residents

2373
01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:14.279
of Vancouver didn't want the filmmakers to blow it up,

2374
01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:15.680
as they thought it was a nice house.

2375
01:44:16.399 --> 01:44:18.880
That's the most Canada thing I've ever heard in my life. Obviously,

2376
01:44:19.039 --> 01:44:22.600
hope you have to blow it up. Eh, it's pretty nice. Eh.

2377
01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:24.760
The piece of glass that went into miss Luton's neck

2378
01:44:24.840 --> 01:44:27.840
was from the computer was done backwards. They shot the

2379
01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:29.920
glass being yanked away from her neck with a line

2380
01:44:29.920 --> 01:44:33.079
which was digitally erased. Actress Kristen Kloak was put under

2381
01:44:33.079 --> 01:44:35.600
a fake wooden floor with silicone body on top. This

2382
01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:37.800
was so the knife couldn't pale the character without injuring

2383
01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:38.279
the actor.

2384
01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:40.479
I mean, you know, that's one way to do it. Now,

2385
01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:42.359
That's why it's so effective, because you really see it

2386
01:44:42.439 --> 01:44:43.079
just go in.

2387
01:44:43.239 --> 01:44:45.720
Yeah. The train scene in which Carter's car is smashed

2388
01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:47.439
by the train was one of the most difficult scenes

2389
01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:49.119
to shoot. The car used for the crash was a

2390
01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:52.159
replica of the original severed and half prior to filming.

2391
01:44:52.399 --> 01:44:54.960
According to Sonderhoff, in order to ensure the safety of

2392
01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:56.800
the actors, they had to make sure that there was

2393
01:44:56.880 --> 01:44:58.720
no real sheet metal in the car.

2394
01:44:59.880 --> 01:45:02.520
Is absolutely true. Yeah, that would be really hard to

2395
01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:03.159
do safely.

2396
01:45:03.760 --> 01:45:06.119
In the opening scene, Devin Sawble was supposed to pretend

2397
01:45:06.119 --> 01:45:08.640
to be asleep. He actually fell asleep for four hours.

2398
01:45:09.640 --> 01:45:11.720
Well, good for him. Get your rest King.

2399
01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:14.119
While Alex is sitting in his bedroom reading a magazine

2400
01:45:14.159 --> 01:45:16.199
and Al lands on a tree branch outside the window.

2401
01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:18.640
And many cultures, owls are viewed as omens of death.

2402
01:45:19.199 --> 01:45:19.520
Hmmm.

2403
01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:22.520
The scene where Carter elbows, Oh.

2404
01:45:22.439 --> 01:45:25.399
Yeah, who's gonna die? Hooo oh No.

2405
01:45:25.960 --> 01:45:28.119
The scene where Carter elbows Billy in the car was

2406
01:45:28.159 --> 01:45:30.600
added in because the day of shooting, Sean William Scott

2407
01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:32.600
had a sore lip. To hide it, the makeup team

2408
01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:35.560
added blood and the end result was of Carter elbowing Billy.

2409
01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:37.840
That's a nice way to hide that, yeh. Smart.

2410
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:39.760
In the last scene at the cafe, the sign that

2411
01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:42.439
breaks Reey from its holding brackets spells one to eighty in.

2412
01:45:42.399 --> 01:45:45.439
Reverse, which is the name of the flight. That was

2413
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:47.960
one of my favorites because that one I really caught.

2414
01:45:48.439 --> 01:45:51.199
Most characters of film are named after filmmakers or stars

2415
01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:53.600
from black and white horror films. Terry Cheney was named

2416
01:45:53.600 --> 01:45:57.239
after Lawn Cheney. Todd Wagner after director George Wagner, Alex

2417
01:45:57.279 --> 01:46:02.159
Browning after director Todd Browning, Larry murnaw now after director F. W. Mornaw,

2418
01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:05.439
who directed Do s Farratu, A Symphony of horror agent

2419
01:46:05.479 --> 01:46:08.960
Shrek after Max Shrek who played in Nose Farratu, Blake

2420
01:46:09.039 --> 01:46:13.159
Dreyer after Carl Theodor Dreyer who directed Vampire, Howard Siegel

2421
01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:16.439
after Don Siegel, who directed Dirty Harry, Billy Hitchcock out

2422
01:46:16.439 --> 01:46:19.600
after Alfred Hitchcock, and Valerie Luton after horror film producer

2423
01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:20.279
of value.

2424
01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:22.600
I whanted you be like Hitchcock after Bucky Hitchcock, who

2425
01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:25.640
owned a chain of chicken restaurants in the nineteen sixties.

2426
01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:28.680
Considering his extensive knowledge of death design and how it works,

2427
01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:31.720
many File Destination fans have theorized that William Bloodworth is

2428
01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:34.760
the human personification of death, or at least comes some

2429
01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:38.560
kind of representative for death. However, both Tony Todd himself

2430
01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:41.560
and File Destination producers have denied that being true. So

2431
01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:43.960
for the purposes of this theory, Bloodworth is a human

2432
01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:46.239
being with no known connection to death itself.

2433
01:46:46.439 --> 01:46:49.079
See well yes and no yeah. See to me, he

2434
01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:51.479
had a poetic connection to death. He had a literal

2435
01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:54.680
one yeah, because he sees death all the time, so

2436
01:46:54.800 --> 01:46:58.000
he would have a better understanding of death in that

2437
01:46:58.039 --> 01:46:59.880
he could be like, I see every type of person

2438
01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:02.359
come through here. I see everyone I see people who

2439
01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:04.920
you know, jog five out five miles a day to

2440
01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:08.279
and eat only lettuce die of heart attacks. I see,

2441
01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:11.239
you know everything. I see people who are eighty years

2442
01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:14.600
old and did nothing but cocaine and fried chicken their

2443
01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:17.199
whole lives, and they made it to eighty one and died,

2444
01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:18.479
you know, peacefully in their sleep.

2445
01:47:19.319 --> 01:47:20.039
I just never know.

2446
01:47:20.159 --> 01:47:22.000
That's what the vibe I got was not that he

2447
01:47:22.079 --> 01:47:23.159
was literally supernatural.

2448
01:47:23.279 --> 01:47:23.479
Yeah.

2449
01:47:23.680 --> 01:47:26.960
Well, and and his creepy tone helps the movie. Yeah,

2450
01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:28.319
it really sells a lot.

2451
01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:30.840
I mean he, like I said, he's in the movie

2452
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:34.800
for four minutes if that, and steals that entire scene.

2453
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:36.199
Oh god. Yeah.

2454
01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:39.239
The DVD features the following deleted scenes, a love scene

2455
01:47:39.239 --> 01:47:42.399
between Alex and Clear on the beach, a pregnancy test

2456
01:47:42.439 --> 01:47:44.760
which reveals that Clear is pregnant from having sex with Alex,

2457
01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:48.159
and a third ending where Alex is electrocuted and dies

2458
01:47:48.279 --> 01:47:50.920
after having their child. Clear has the gift of seeing

2459
01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:53.640
death before it happens. Carter also survives.

2460
01:47:53.720 --> 01:47:55.760
This was a New Line movie, right, you know why

2461
01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:58.279
they cut out the pregnancy test, right? Was that h

2462
01:47:58.640 --> 01:48:01.119
somebody there? It was probably bob Sha. Bob Sha was like,

2463
01:48:01.800 --> 01:48:04.680
do you remember Nightmare on Elm Street five because what

2464
01:48:04.720 --> 01:48:06.960
they learned from that movie was teens don't want to

2465
01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:09.720
go and watch a movie about an accidental teen pregnancy.

2466
01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:11.720
Yeah, I mean they don't. The opening of five is

2467
01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:13.279
still one of my all time favorites because it's just

2468
01:48:13.319 --> 01:48:15.800
so unlike any of them.

2469
01:48:15.880 --> 01:48:18.079
Oh for sure. Now there's a lot to like in five,

2470
01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:21.640
even for all of its drawbacks. But I've always heard

2471
01:48:21.640 --> 01:48:24.159
that that was the big thing was people were like, yeah,

2472
01:48:24.199 --> 01:48:25.960
the teenagers don't want to come and see a movie

2473
01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:27.920
about the penalties of teen sex.

2474
01:48:28.399 --> 01:48:31.319
They do not. And finally, the film had major impact

2475
01:48:31.359 --> 01:48:33.680
in the horror film audience, earning the Saturn Award for

2476
01:48:33.720 --> 01:48:35.760
Best Horror Film in two thousand. Saw Will won the

2477
01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:38.000
Saturn Award for Best Performance by a Younger Actor the

2478
01:48:38.039 --> 01:48:40.479
same year, and Larder won the Young Hollywood Award for

2479
01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:44.319
Breakthrough Performance by a Female. So what are your final

2480
01:48:44.319 --> 01:48:46.279
thoughts on two thousand's final destination?

2481
01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:49.920
I mean, it's at the very least a rent it.

2482
01:48:50.039 --> 01:48:53.319
But if you're a horror movie aficionado, this movie has

2483
01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:55.880
become a classic without a doubt, without a doubt, and

2484
01:48:55.920 --> 01:48:58.720
it spawned an incredible amount of sequels. I think that

2485
01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:02.079
the best thing to do is buy a set. Yeah,

2486
01:49:02.119 --> 01:49:04.439
so you could have all of them, because even if

2487
01:49:04.439 --> 01:49:07.600
the other ones degrade in some degree of like own

2488
01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:10.640
it quality. Yeah, having it all in one package just

2489
01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:13.640
guarantees that if you ever really need a good excuse

2490
01:49:13.680 --> 01:49:15.880
to eat a bag of popcorn, you're set.

2491
01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:18.279
I mean. The impact of Final Destination is the fact

2492
01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:20.319
that what is the number one scene that anybody remembers

2493
01:49:20.359 --> 01:49:22.920
from the entire series, the log truck, which is in two.

2494
01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:25.520
Yeah. So I mean yeah, I mean every time I

2495
01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:28.039
see a truck full of logs, I'm like, I don't

2496
01:49:28.079 --> 01:49:31.119
think so it's just I'm gonna get it. No, I

2497
01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:33.199
mean it's it is a rent it with a caveat

2498
01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:33.600
to buy it.

2499
01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:37.720
Because this is a very important franchise in in Horse cinema,

2500
01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:40.119
but not just Horse and a Cinema entirely. I mean

2501
01:49:40.159 --> 01:49:42.960
it was this This ran for a long time in

2502
01:49:43.199 --> 01:49:45.199
the sense that it was a very popular franchise and

2503
01:49:45.239 --> 01:49:47.239
still is. We're getting a sequel literally the end of

2504
01:49:47.239 --> 01:49:47.640
this week.

2505
01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:49.600
Yeah, we'll be talking about it next the follow us.

2506
01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:51.720
We will. But yeah, I mean, this is this is

2507
01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:54.159
a very important film and also, as we've you know,

2508
01:49:54.359 --> 01:49:56.880
made this episode as an honor to Tony Todd. He

2509
01:49:56.920 --> 01:49:58.800
is great in this and he's not in it very much,

2510
01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:01.520
but just again that presence, I mean he was. He

2511
01:50:01.640 --> 01:50:06.560
was a character actor that had a body to not

2512
01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:10.000
had a body of work that went so many decades

2513
01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:13.399
and never did I tire of seeing him in anything

2514
01:50:13.439 --> 01:50:14.039
does matter?

2515
01:50:14.239 --> 01:50:16.520
I couldn't agree more. He was like, it was like

2516
01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:18.680
bringing in a ringer. We need this scene to be chilling.

2517
01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:19.800
Let's get Tony Todd.

2518
01:50:19.920 --> 01:50:22.279
Yeah, yeah, I mean literally. His appearance in the Screen

2519
01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:24.920
TV series, which is I think season three again another

2520
01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:26.359
one of those campuises, which is the whole shit that's

2521
01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:26.840
Tony Todd.

2522
01:50:27.720 --> 01:50:29.399
Yeah, I mean so I like the season one and

2523
01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:32.279
two more because three was was actually a revamped revamping.

2524
01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:34.399
But he was my favorite part of it.

2525
01:50:34.399 --> 01:50:36.560
Oh yeah, without a doubt. So we always liked on

2526
01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:38.720
the show. With a couple of recommendations this week, I

2527
01:50:38.800 --> 01:50:42.079
have two, starting with twenty eighteens Blumhouse is Truth or

2528
01:50:42.159 --> 01:50:45.399
Dare Rentable currently on Prime and Fandango. A harmless game

2529
01:50:45.439 --> 01:50:48.399
of Truth or Dare among friends turns deadly when someone

2530
01:50:48.680 --> 01:50:51.680
or something begins to punish those who tell a lie

2531
01:50:51.800 --> 01:50:53.920
or refuse to the Dare I really love that movie.

2532
01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:55.680
Yeah, I need to revisit it. I remember when we

2533
01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:57.479
walked out of the theater, I was like, damn, all right,

2534
01:50:57.640 --> 01:50:58.119
dark ending.

2535
01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:00.000
But it has filled this nation, vibes to it all

2536
01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:00.279
through it.

2537
01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:02.560
It totally does. I mean. Yeah, the idea of some

2538
01:51:03.960 --> 01:51:10.319
unseeable force getting revenge, yeah, I mean it's I think

2539
01:51:10.359 --> 01:51:13.479
that very little anything that I'm not thinking of right

2540
01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:16.000
now that did it first, Final Destination did it in

2541
01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:17.520
the most memorable possible way.

2542
01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:20.399
No, it absolutely did. And my second recommendation kind of

2543
01:51:20.399 --> 01:51:24.000
astray for this one, But I think the general idea

2544
01:51:24.119 --> 01:51:26.520
of not trying to die when death is for sure.

2545
01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:30.680
Twenty twenty two is Fall, currently available on twov You

2546
01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:32.800
can also rent it on Prime and fandango. When a

2547
01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:35.640
high rise climb goes wrong, best friends Becky and Hunter

2548
01:51:35.720 --> 01:51:37.680
find themselves stuck at the top of a two thousand

2549
01:51:37.720 --> 01:51:40.039
foot TV tower. If you are afraid of heights, do

2550
01:51:40.079 --> 01:51:41.159
not watch this movie.

2551
01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:43.720
Or if you're like me, if you are afraid of heights,

2552
01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:45.920
watch this movie immediately.

2553
01:51:45.399 --> 01:51:46.319
On a giant screen.

2554
01:51:46.479 --> 01:51:47.439
Yes alone.

2555
01:51:47.479 --> 01:51:49.640
God, dude, some of the shots in this movie are.

2556
01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:52.159
Oh no, it's brilliant. It's so good in the theater.

2557
01:51:52.199 --> 01:51:54.600
It was an incredible experience. I get nervous thinking about it.

2558
01:51:54.600 --> 01:51:57.399
We're getting a sequel some point, Oh yeah, fall harder

2559
01:51:57.680 --> 01:51:59.640
for harder. So what's your recommendation?

2560
01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:03.640
My recommendation. We actually alluded to it earlier. It's nineteen

2561
01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:08.640
eighty four Sole Survivor, because this is such an underrated

2562
01:52:08.760 --> 01:52:12.359
great film. The IMDb synopsis is a lone survivor of

2563
01:52:12.399 --> 01:52:14.960
Planyegrass is haunted by a feeling unworthy of a feeling

2564
01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:18.000
unworthy of survival. Dead people start coming after her to

2565
01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:20.239
collect her. And that's pretty much it. It's just the

2566
01:52:20.279 --> 01:52:25.760
way it's done is so creepy and simple and scary.

2567
01:52:26.119 --> 01:52:29.279
You see a very very young Brink Stevens in it.

2568
01:52:29.319 --> 01:52:32.079
This was like right after she did slumber Heady Raps. Yeah,

2569
01:52:32.199 --> 01:52:35.199
And two things about this movie. Number one, I had

2570
01:52:35.239 --> 01:52:38.239
never heard of it. I was literally hanging out one

2571
01:52:38.279 --> 01:52:40.359
Friday night. It was just me and my buddy Jeff,

2572
01:52:40.399 --> 01:52:43.479
our buddy Jeff, and I was flipping through shutter and

2573
01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:44.640
I picked it at random.

2574
01:52:44.680 --> 01:52:46.399
I think Joe Bob had wrapped it.

2575
01:52:46.439 --> 01:52:48.840
Wasn't that it, I mean it wasn't the same night

2576
01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:51.640
as No, we just it was only us, so Yeah,

2577
01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:54.119
but I picked Soul Survivor because I'd never heard of it,

2578
01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:56.279
and we were in a smasher trash like, Yeah, we

2579
01:52:56.319 --> 01:52:59.159
would either keep watching it or we wouldn't. We watched

2580
01:52:59.159 --> 01:53:00.960
it all the way through. We were shocked how much

2581
01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:03.239
we liked it, how creepy it was, how scary it was.

2582
01:53:03.399 --> 01:53:05.960
Sadly no longer on shutter, it is available to stream

2583
01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:08.680
free on Fossome, which is awesome with an f yep,

2584
01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:11.000
or you can rent it wherever you rent your movies.

2585
01:53:11.279 --> 01:53:13.479
But Soul Survivor is super creepy. But here's the thing

2586
01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:15.920
people don't talk about enough about this movie. It is

2587
01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:23.079
a dark, gritty, creepy, eerie movie directed by a guy

2588
01:53:23.159 --> 01:53:27.079
named Tom Eberhart. In nineteen eighty four, Tom Eberhart made

2589
01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:30.319
another movie that's much more famous and well known that

2590
01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:35.399
is absolutely nothing like Soul Survivor. And I love this.

2591
01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:36.239
Yeah.

2592
01:53:36.279 --> 01:53:40.760
He directed Night of the Comet. No shit, the Comet

2593
01:53:40.800 --> 01:53:47.479
is the most youthful, sunny, even though it's sad and dark, sunny, youthful, energetic, colorful,

2594
01:53:47.640 --> 01:53:48.800
wild experience.

2595
01:53:48.880 --> 01:53:49.119
Yeah.

2596
01:53:49.880 --> 01:53:52.159
Same year he made one of the most like it

2597
01:53:52.239 --> 01:53:55.199
was It's from eighty four. It feels like nineteen seventy seven.

2598
01:53:55.600 --> 01:53:59.439
It's very old school but very worth your time. I'm serious.

2599
01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:01.359
We'll get my blue you can take it home. Let's

2600
01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:03.680
your homework, young man. Sounds good, but yeah. Sole Survivor

2601
01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:07.439
from nineteen eighty four is my suggestion. I do think there.

2602
01:54:07.920 --> 01:54:11.319
It gives a little feeling a final destination, but it's very,

2603
01:54:11.399 --> 01:54:11.960
very different.

2604
01:54:12.079 --> 01:54:14.439
There is a movie that's an ospilitation that I've been

2605
01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:16.520
wanting to get, and I think seven put out the

2606
01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:18.079
blu Ray It may still have it at this point,

2607
01:54:18.319 --> 01:54:21.399
called The Survivor, which is about a bus crash that

2608
01:54:21.479 --> 01:54:23.479
happens and one person walks away or no, it's a

2609
01:54:23.479 --> 01:54:23.880
plane crash.

2610
01:54:23.920 --> 01:54:24.279
It's place.

2611
01:54:24.479 --> 01:54:27.039
It's a plane crash out, oh okay, and one person

2612
01:54:27.079 --> 01:54:31.159
walks away, and then all the survivors form into like

2613
01:54:31.479 --> 01:54:34.479
vengeful beings to come after the one that was supposed

2614
01:54:34.520 --> 01:54:35.079
to be with them.

2615
01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:35.640
Nice.

2616
01:54:35.760 --> 01:54:38.199
Yeah, okay, So I'm dying to see that. So do

2617
01:54:38.199 --> 01:54:39.199
we have any emails this week?

2618
01:54:39.439 --> 01:54:42.840
I'll double check. But last I saw nobody loves us anymore?

2619
01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:43.520
Sadness.

2620
01:54:43.600 --> 01:54:46.960
We had so many emails for such a while. So yeah,

2621
01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:48.880
nothing here today's week. But if you want to send

2622
01:54:48.960 --> 01:54:50.479
us an email, yes, all you have to do is

2623
01:54:50.520 --> 01:54:54.800
type in do you even movie pod at gmail dot com.

2624
01:54:54.840 --> 01:54:56.479
We would love to hear from anybody who wants to

2625
01:54:56.479 --> 01:54:59.319
write in, whether it's commenting on the movies we watched,

2626
01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:01.960
telling us a movie we should watch, or whatever you

2627
01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:04.159
want to want to send our way. We do appreciate

2628
01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:05.880
that a whole lot. You can also just go to

2629
01:55:06.159 --> 01:55:10.239
dooevenmovie dot com. There's a contact form. Every way to

2630
01:55:10.239 --> 01:55:12.159
get a hold of us can be found there as well,

2631
01:55:12.279 --> 01:55:14.720
and a fixed web store and a web store that works.

2632
01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:17.159
Still nobody's used it, but it is up and running

2633
01:55:17.520 --> 01:55:19.720
and running, so it does exist. And we do have

2634
01:55:19.760 --> 01:55:22.039
a T shirt and coffee mug and a few other

2635
01:55:22.079 --> 01:55:24.039
things that might just fend death away.

2636
01:55:24.079 --> 01:55:26.920
Not a guarantee, but don't put boiling liquid into that

2637
01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:28.520
mug and then switch to cold liquid.

2638
01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:31.680
No, I say do it because if it breaks, I

2639
01:55:31.760 --> 01:55:33.520
will complain to the manufacturer for you.

2640
01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:35.720
That's fair, yeah, because it should be able to. So

2641
01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:37.399
would you like to know what we are talking about

2642
01:55:37.560 --> 01:55:38.399
next week on the show?

2643
01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:40.640
Well, I don't, I mean I guess so, since there's

2644
01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:42.199
nothing I can do to stop fate.

2645
01:55:42.199 --> 01:55:44.439
So we are kind of cheating next week. But we're

2646
01:55:44.520 --> 01:55:46.960
cheating because of a listener request. We got a request

2647
01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:50.880
from Nicole El who wanted to us to discuss nineteen

2648
01:55:50.960 --> 01:55:54.239
seventy six is Carrie Oh with Sissy Spacek on the

2649
01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:57.399
show for her birthday, which is I believe a couple

2650
01:55:57.520 --> 01:55:59.319
days after. I want to say, well, I'll have that

2651
01:55:59.359 --> 01:56:02.359
information for sure. I haven't written down, but yeah, Carrie

2652
01:56:02.359 --> 01:56:05.319
currently available on Max, Hulu and Roku. This is going

2653
01:56:05.319 --> 01:56:07.640
to pay tribute to two actually, because back in twenty

2654
01:56:07.640 --> 01:56:09.840
twenty three we lost the great Piper Laurie, who originally

2655
01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:12.840
was going to be the cheat for this in unfortunately

2656
01:56:13.079 --> 01:56:16.600
and fortunately we also had a death recently from the

2657
01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:19.520
film Priscilla Pointer passed a couple weeks back, and she

2658
01:56:19.600 --> 01:56:21.760
plays the teacher in the film Wow. So we are

2659
01:56:21.760 --> 01:56:24.039
gonna have two honors on that of nineteen seventy six

2660
01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:26.399
Is Carrie, which I am excited to revisit. I have

2661
01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:28.880
not seen that in a while. And between you and me,

2662
01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:32.079
I might have a four K because Hubret Music and

2663
01:56:32.159 --> 01:56:34.319
Video has one for sixteen ninety nine right now, and

2664
01:56:34.359 --> 01:56:36.000
that's a really good price for the four K because

2665
01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:38.680
the slipcover's fucked up. Ooh, so I might go pick

2666
01:56:38.720 --> 01:56:39.119
that up.

2667
01:56:39.359 --> 01:56:41.479
Well, Hell's Bells and taco shell.

2668
01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:43.439
Yeah. But yeah, we're gonna be talking about Kerrie next

2669
01:56:43.439 --> 01:56:45.640
week on the show as we continue. May they rest

2670
01:56:45.680 --> 01:56:46.159
in peace.

2671
01:56:46.399 --> 01:56:49.079
It sounds pretty uh, I'll say good, even though it's

2672
01:56:49.079 --> 01:56:51.720
really dark, really sad. So but thank you guys so

2673
01:56:51.800 --> 01:56:53.479
much for joining us for another episode of Do You

2674
01:56:53.520 --> 01:56:55.279
Even Movie? We do appreciate it. As I said, you

2675
01:56:55.279 --> 01:56:57.479
can email us do You Even Movie Pod at gmail

2676
01:56:57.520 --> 01:57:00.720
dot com or head to dooevenmovie dot com all information

2677
01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:03.119
about the show. Yes, if you're watching us on YouTube,

2678
01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:05.520
please feel free to leave a comment. We will respond

2679
01:57:05.600 --> 01:57:08.159
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2680
01:57:08.199 --> 01:57:10.960
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2681
01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:14.640
Apple Podcasts or Spotify. You can also comment over on Spotify.

2682
01:57:14.800 --> 01:57:17.039
And I do read and respond to all of them.

2683
01:57:17.039 --> 01:57:19.560
And if they're pertinent to David, I can David in

2684
01:57:19.600 --> 01:57:22.600
on it. Yeah. Yes, so that's all I have to say.

2685
01:57:22.680 --> 01:57:24.640
So I guess that's it.

2686
01:57:24.840 --> 01:57:27.520
I guess that is it for this week.

2687
01:57:27.680 --> 01:57:32.800
Yes, maybe maybe maybe, but so.

2688
01:57:32.840 --> 01:57:35.000
I guess all that's left to say, my friends is.

2689
01:57:34.960 --> 01:57:37.960
We will see you next. They're all gonna laugh at you.

2690
01:57:38.239 --> 01:57:40.520
Oh god, I was gonna go with the you know

2691
01:57:40.720 --> 01:57:43.840
you can't fight fate, but that works too. Oh man,

2692
01:57:44.600 --> 01:57:46.000
plug it up, Plug it up,