Dutch (1991) Road Trip Woes and Heartwarming Comedy

0:01 Doyle. Yes, Dad can't be with you. He has to go to Europe. Doyle's dad wasn't much of a father, is mister Street. But his mother was in love with the next best thing. Let me go down and get him, Dutch. I'm a friend of your mother's. I came to bring you a home. Now they've only just met, and already they get along like family. What do you like to do for fun? He likes to wiggling. Crunch me too, So you endure the girl will. Give it me tip squeak. Bring along Just Crazy. Twentieth Century Fox presents I'm a working class nobody and I. Don't take any lip from kiddies.

0:43 The story of a boy who lost the child and himself. I'm the man who helped him find it Dutch. Okay, sure, will it be? Won't make me vomit ready? PG thirteen. Special Sneak previews Saturday night at theaters everywhere. In a world where podcasts reigned supreme. Two Friends Dare to Ask. Do You Even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de Noyer.

1:31 Spoiler alert, Well, hello, my friends, and welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? I am, of course, your host Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy and co host Double D David the Destroyers, and we're back with another piece of festive Turkey Day fun it is And the question, though, on everyone's mind is what's going on with your family's turkey? Family's turkey? Yeah, that's so dry.

2:13 We really bringing this back again. It was kind of a shocking revelation. It wasn't It wasn't even like a ha ha. It was more like you were just literally like it was like you saying, I just don't like steak. It's it's tough. It's like shoe leather, you know, when it's cooked all the way, you know, and we're all like, uh, that's not a steak. I don't I don't want to comment on any more of this, mainly because I do not want to hurt my mother's feelings because she does listen to this podcast. Oh, but then her that's already been better, her. Feelings have been I don't want to make it worse. Can it be worse? I don't know. I don't want to talk about it, like, can. Can a shirt be more wet than when it's already submerged? In disappointment. I don't even know. I just I just know that we're going to get a lot of feedback. I have a feeling from that not nice if we do we do. I'm not saying in like a mean one, Oh I know that. Yeah, I'm saying in a way where people be like whoa. No, it sounds like that's not common across all turkeys. And don't get me wrong, though, the turkey white meat is very challenging to keep very moist. It's honestly one of the reasons it's traditional to serve.

3:20 It with gravy. Yeah, so. It is what I mean. I'm just I'm just worried for you. I just I I yeah, I don't have anything else to add to it this week. I just don't right now. Wow, Sorry, it's all right. Are you exhausted from doing thirty one podcasts in a row. No, I'm exhausted from in general, from just the last couple of days of us both being sick and having to do things too. Yeah. Well yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh did you have to do you have to do eight podcasts in a row while I did not? No, I did not, but I had to I had to do some things in regards of work and whatnot that's been going on that I cannot get into because that's actually information that I'm not allowed to share. So well, let's move on.

4:08 By the time this comes out, it'll be fine. Let's move on, all right, All right, Well you heard it here first, David does not care to share his life with you right now. But we're actually recording this a little early because I took a desperately needed vacation. Yes, well, I mean I haven't taken it yet. By the time that you're listening to this, I will have just gotten back from it. Yes, I yeah, desperate need of said vacation, absolutely, yeah, yeah. I mean you can still hear that something's not right with my voice. I always feel bad when people first tune in as my voice is healing, because then they'll think I have this strong masculine voice, which is not mine, not at all. So, but that all being said, you've made it very hard to talk about Thanksgiving.

5:04 How hard does it? No, I'm specifically relating to Turkey and me right now. That's just what we can skip past that Thanksgiving. I'm fine talking about. It's more so, it's just like I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings right now. Well, see before it sounded like you were ignorant, but now it sounds like you have actual hateful feeling. No feelings, I more so just don't know. I don't want to put my foot in my mouth on certain things. There's a lot of shit going on my parents' lives right now, so I think with. Enough gravy, the foot would probably taste good. I think anything else that I add to the pile right now is just not wanted. Okay. Well, and you're on record as the stuffing as your favorite. Stuffing is always my favorite. It's always been my favorite.

5:46 I also do for the For the record, I like cranberry sauce. I didn't know that a lot of people don't like a lot of people don't. I've had a lot of friends that do not. When you say you like cranberry sauce, do you mean you like cranberry sauce or do you mean you like the canned cranberry. I like the cannranberry sauce, but I also like the spiced apple rings. I also like the homemade cranberry sauce that my grandma has made for a while too. Is also good. So I like, there hasn't really been a Cranberry sauce that I dislike so far. Well, we're going to have to find you one. We could find it. Absolutely. I still I have been dying, even though I say this, and probably I'm inviting hell into my life by saying this on the air, I have been dying to get my hand on one of those canned that Thanksgiving dinner.

6:28 That's a whole Thanksgiving dinner in a can. Yes, because I'm genuinely curious to see how awful it tastes, but also how much what flavor stands out the most of the whole can? Well, how much is one? I don't even know. I haven't really looked him. Hubb oh, I just messed everything up. Oh no, that's fine. I'm curious. Yeah, now I really want to know. I don't even know. Can you? I don't think you can order off Amazon? How would you not be able to order it off Amazon? Thanksgiving Dinner in a can? This is very good content. Craig's Thanksgiving dinner is the one. That Merrick is the one I had always seen.

7:09 This is the one that I saw. What's her? I can't think of her name? Emmy, Emmy. Yeah, yeah, here it is Merrick Thanksgiving Dinner turkey chicken. Oh it's a pack of twelve. Oh okay, okay, that makes more sense. Oh this is for dogs. Well yeah, so I'll get you something I got you. Yeah yeah, well, I. Mean I'm just trying to help. Man. Wow, I did not. Actually, I don't think it's on Amazon. I don't think it is. Well, help, it would have just come up by now just because Amazon knows your habits. He complete turkey and dress. That's that's just regular Thanksgiving dinner.

7:55 I mean maybe maybe you should search turkey dinner, Turkey dinner and a can and I can't. This is terrifying. Yeah, Craigs, the let me see if I can actually just find crags. Oh, here's Christmas Dinner in a can. Oh, it just takes me to the exact same page I was on before. This is riveting, It's absolutely riveting. Well, my favorite Thanksgiving side dish is deviled eggs. I mean, especially if your mom makes them. Absolutely well, my mom is the only person who makes them so and my close second was when my aunt Betty was around, was her chicken and dumplings.

8:38 Now I can get creamed possum and coon fat gravy garnished with sweet potatoes and a can. You should probably order it now. It looks like it's gonna take. A little while to get here, it says, gag can. Yeah, you will probably gag when it's open. Yeah, it looks like the only one we can find is that is the thing for dogs. I don't see anything else. Then that's what we'll get you. I've got research to do. I'll find out about this. Oh boy, you heard you heard it here first. I will if we can, if we can get some, I will eat it live on the show. No, you wouldn't, Yes, I would. No, you wouldn't, Yes, I would. That's a that's a big that's a big threat. It's a big threat. Then also, one of our listeners may uh they just make that happen.

9:19 I wouldn't be shocked. Yeah they they they hate you. Yeah, that's fair, and that's fair. I wonder if I can get it on eBay. See, now, you made me obsessed. Why'd you have to make it a challenge. Because we watched Labeast eat expired cereals before this? Why don't you just offered to eat expired cereals that wouldn't have been as brutal. It didn't seem that brutal for him. Do You Even movie will be right back, welcome back to Do you even movie? It looks like this is impossible to find right now.

10:01 I bet, I bet you have to find it in like a dollar store or some shit. I think it's specialty. You think it's specialty. Yeah, that might be. I mean I remember it being expensive, so well now I'm very curious. But no, every ever since I've seen that freaking picture of that can have been like, I wonder what stands out the most flavorwise of that entire can. I mean probably sweet potatoes are gravy. Yeah, that would be my assumption. Well, as Dave looks for for holiday alternatives, this is in many ways the ultimate yes holiday alternative. Yes, because when it comes to American Thanksgiving movies, there there isn't.

10:45 I mean there certainly isn't as big of a selection as Christmas movies, not by. A long shot. There are more. Thanksgiving films, but of course there are actually almost no movies about Thanksgiving. They're usually set around Thanksgiving. Except that one that you have that's like the first or the peb What is it old fashioned Thanksgiving? Yeah? Well, well and what's Cooking is literally about Thanksgiving, But like planes trains, it's it's it's sort of about Thanksgiving. It's about getting to Thanksgivings. Dutch is about which we're talking about to Night nineteen and Anyone's Dutch is about getting to a Thanksgiving dinner. So it's a bit about Thanksgiving. But a lot of them that we pick are kind of adjacent. Ironically enough, Blood Rage, the big horror Thanksgiving is totally about Thanksgiving. It's about a Thanksgiving dinner and family getting together. And then what is and is not cranberry sauce such things like that. Absolutely, there aren't an immense amount. A lot of the ones that we kind of lean into, like last week's The Ice Storm, they are simply around that time of year.

11:44 Old for the Holidays is another big one that takes place. That's on and that's about Thanksgiving because it's about family getting. Together and for the specific meal. War at Home kind of about Thanksgiving. It's set at Thanksgiving at least so, but often for a long time before where we had discovered several of these films that we were just discussing there were. For a very long time, it seemed only two major Thanksgiving movies Yeah, and that was Planes, Trains and Automobiles and then Dutch Yeah, both written. By John Hughes. Yep. Planes Trains well loved across everywhere, Yeah, and Dutch not so much. Not so much Dutch. Dutch not very well known. Well, which I mean, if you're not well known, you're not well loved, unfortunately. And on top of that, the fact that it was very hard to get a hold of Yeah has been an issue.

12:35 And still a continuing issue at that. When I discovered Dutch, you could get a DVD for ten bucks. Yeah. Then when I first got my DVD it was at a half priced books still sealed, and I think I paid ninety nine for it. And then the Blu ray came out very briefly. I nabbed twenty twelve is what wikipedias or twenty twelve or twenty seventeen, shit, now I can't remember. Oh it came on. It couldn't have come out as late as twenty seventeen. I don't think it's on the Wikipedia. Pity, but regards it's been hard to get last year, it was getting a lot of love because it dropped on Max, but now it is simp since left Max. Correct, So if you don't have a copy of Dutch, I'm sorry. Blu Ray on January seventeenth, twenty twelve.

13:17 That's okay, that's when I thought I got it. Was twenty twelve or twenty thirteen. Yeah, so. We apologize. We try to pick movies that are accessible. This one you may have to do some digging, some rooting around, and you may have to use some nefarious means to watch it. True, yes, but it is worth adding to you to your rotation. Last year I saw a ton of Instagram stories of people watching Dutch for the first time on Max and really enjoying it. I think it's kind of an unsung hero both of John Hughes's career and of Thanksgiving films. Absolutely, that's my personal opinion on Dutch. So we're going to get out of here and say no. But with that all being said, I suppose Dov yes, it's time to get into through the details.

14:00 So it is our fiftieth episode of Do You Even Movie, and we are covering Dutch from nineteen ninety one. I suppose you could have led with that. Yeah, I guess you know, maybe so one hour and forty seven minutes rated PG. Thirteen. No reason for the rating given, but language, some sexual content and comic violence. Yeah, mostly language. Yeah. The director of the film is Peter Faman. He gets his start in nineteen seventy as the director on The Weekend. Starts Here Behind the Fridge in seventy one, Sunbury seventy three and seventy three, Neil Diamond, the Thank You Australia Concert in seventy six, The Don Lane Show, The Paul Hogan Show in seventy eight, Sammy Davis Junior Live in Australia in seventy nine, the Royal Charity Concert. We're starting to notice a pattern.

14:41 Yeah, two, two patterns for that matter. Paul Hogan's England in nineteen eighty three, Culture Club Live in Sydney in eighty four. Then he directs Crocodile Dundee in nineteen eighty six, followed by Dutch in ninety one, and then two thousand and one Human Edge. That was the last of his resume that I could find. Wow. Yeah, he has worked primarily in Australia. Dutch was the only location that was solely shot in America. There were some pieces of crocodile undie film in America of course, yeah, of course. But yeah, other than that, he mainly stuck to Australia and did a lot of concert pictures. Wow. Well, I mean, I mean, it's a little kind to say he mostly stuck to Australia. Unfortunately, he got called over to do some big blockbuster movie yea, and then it didn't go over very well sadly. I mean.

15:22 For those who don't know Dutch stars Ed O'Neill of Married with Children and will dive into his info in a sack, Yeah, he had. He's one of the few people who's had two big hits. Yeah, basically like him and Andy Griffith. They're sure there are a couple more, but like that not only had big hit sitcoms yeah, or hit you know, weekly TV shows, but starred in both. Yeah, because he was a dad in married with children and a dad in modern family. But this was his foray into becoming a mainstream movie star. And the first time I ever heard of Dutch was them making fun of Dutch and married with children. I may just mention that in the trivia section. All right, So anyway, so tell us about the writer moving.

16:04 On down to our writer, mister John Hughes. By this point in his career, he has directed Sixteen Candles in eighty four, The Breakfast Club in eighty five, Weird Science in eighty five, Ferris Bueller's Day Off in eighty six She's having a Baby, Uncle Buck, and then Curly Sue the same year. Writing wise, he's also written Mister Mom, National Lampoon's Vacation Home Alone, and Dutch as well, Wow Yeah So Dutch in ninety one. Moving down to our cinematographer returning to the show, mister Charles Minsky. He got his start as an assistant camera on Chain Gain Woman in seventy one, The Thing with Two Heads in seventy two, Heads, The Choir Boys, Urban Cowboy ninety five, Black Stating Returns, Teen Wolf, Bull Durham, Terminal, Velocity, Congo, Almost Famous. All of these he's assistant camera on. It wasn't until eighty four that he got his cinematographer and director of photography notice with Radioactive Dreams in eighty four, returning to the show because of April Fool's Day in eighty six, Nice, also Amazing Stories in eighty six, Pretty Woman in nineteen ninety Dutch In ninety one, The Gun and Betty Lee's Handbag, ninety two, Lewis and Clark, The New Adventures of Superman, Kazam, Tom Kats, Raising Helen, the Producers, You Me Into pre Valentine's Day, New Year's Eve, Mother's Day, and recently twenty sixteen of the Adventures and Babysitting remake.

17:12 I never caught that. I never I didn't see all of it, but from what I've seen, it's it's fun. Some of those Disney Channel remakes are fun and some of just. Oh it was a Disney Channel remake. Yeah, because that was the first film feature film directed by Christopher Columbus or Chris Columbus Ryeah, Yeah, the director of Home Alone, which I say it. Was Buena Vista. So I think it was a Disney problem. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Uh, boot it down or I'm d synopsis. We have to get to know his girlfriend's son. A working class good guy volunteers to pick him up from his prep school, only to learn that he isn't the nicest young man. I mean fair my synopsis. Trying to impress his new girlfriend, Dutch Duley volunteers to pick up her snobbish son to bring him home for Thanksgiving, only to find out this road trip will bring these two closer together if they don't kill each other first.

17:58 Uh uh uh huh. Yeah, that's a much better, much better synopsis. Yeah, because it's not a surprise how snobbish the kid is. No, it's more a surprise that Ed O'Neill manages to keep his pants on relatively, This is true. Taglines for the film include they're best of friends and they've got the scars to prove it. That's a really solid one. Yeah. Other tagline, can a big kid bring out the child in a little jerk? That's a damn good for this film. That's an excellent tagline. So moved down to our cast. We have Ed O'Neil, who plays Dutch Duly in the film, returning to the Show of course from Little Giants. This gentleman has seventy credits on his resume, starting with Cruising in nineteen eighty, The Day Woman Got Even the Dogs of War, Another World in nineteen eighty When Your Lover Leaves Miami, Vice Hunter, the Equalizer, French Connection three, which we find out he plays Popeye Doyle in Yes, Right to Die, Married with Children in eighty seven, Disorganized Crime in eighty nine, Canine in eighty nine, The Adventures of Ford Fairlane in nineteen ninety, Sibling Rivalry in ninety The Whereabout of Jenny and ninety one, Dutch in ninety one, Wayne's World in ninety two, Wayne's World two and ninety three, Blue Chips, Little Giants, Prefontaine, The Spanish Prisoner, The Bone Collector, The Tenth Kingdom, Lucky Numbers, Nobody's Baby, Spartan Eight, Simple Rules, West Wing, Red Belt, Modern Family in two thousand and nine, Wreck at Ralph, Entourage, Family Guy, Finding Dory, and even The Last Shift in twenty twenty. Oh well, before you go on, yes, sir, you were half right, half right, okay.

19:26 Because you said that the film that Adventures of Babysitting was a Buena Vista film. It was distributed by Buena Vista, but Buenavista is the distributing arm of Disney. It was a touchstone. Touchstone okay, yeah, okay, Yeah. Buenavista was a company Disney founded to literally distribute It was before they had other labels, yeah, to distribute Disney directly to theaters on its own because before then they had partnered with places like Paramount Universal stuff like that. So I just want to mention because when you said that, I was like, I think it was a Touchstone. Was Buenavista or Touchstone the one that handled their harsher titles, like. Like one of us that handled everything. It was a distributor, distributor, right, So that was what got the film prints to theaters. Gota. Touchstone was the first to make adult movies for Disneysney, and then you had Hollywood Pictures and you had the other one. That's just that's names escaping me right now.

20:13 But there's a great documentary on YouTube if you search Touchstone Pictures or How Touchdones Saved Disney is a really good documentary on YouTube about how making these cheaper, adult oriented movies saved Disney's ass until they got to making Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast and kind of got their power back because they were. Really dying in the eighties. But yeah, they did. They had Touchtone, they had Hollywood Pictures and one other one that I'm struggling to remember, but that was when it kind of kind of was the death now for Touchstone was when they started making way too many Hollywood pictures. Is the logo with the pyramid, the the sphinx, the Sphinx. Yeah, okay, okay, do you even?

20:54 Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do You Even movie? So moving on down to our cast, we have Ethan Embrie, who is actually Ethan Randa in this film, who plays Doyle Standish one hundred and five credits on his resume. And not even a bit surprising me. Neither Drug Wars, The Cameron A Story is his start in nineteen ninety Defending Your Life in ninety one, Dutch in ninety one, All I Want for Christmas in ninety one, A Far Off Place in ninety three, Seasons of Change, Evolver in nineteen ninety five. I love Evolver. We have a poster of Evolver on the back wall, and that's we.

21:37 Do Murder, she wrote, nineteen ninety four, Empire Records, in ninety five, White Squall That Thing You Do. In ninety six, Vegas Vacation, where he played Rusty the Prophecy Too, Can't Hardly Wait, Disturbing Behavior, Hercules, the Wild, Thornberry's Rocket Power, Get Real, Batman Beyond Freaky Links, Sweet Home, Alabama in two thousand and two, Twilight Zone in two thousand and two, Wes Craven's Day in two thousand and two, Drag That in three, where he actually reunited with Ed O'Neil as they were both cops on that show. They were partners. Oh shit, that's awesome. Yeah, so then Spider Man series in two thousand and three, Timeline here on Kumar go to White Castle, Numbers Masters of Horror, which I believe is incident off a mountain road. The host cool, very good, YEP, law and Order, criminal intent, vacancy, Eagle Eye, Fear Itself House, The Witches of Oz CSI, Miami, Drop Dead Diva, Gray's Anatomy, Cheap Thrills in twenty thirteen.

22:26 Want to give a quick shout to that film if you are a horror fan and have not seen Cheap Thrills in twenty thirteen with is it Dan Heally? I think it's Dan Heally, Dan heal Ethan Embry. And I believe Oh damn it, what's his face? I can picture his face? David Keckner is also ended as well. Yes, really good horror film that came out Once upon a Time in twenty thirteen. The Guest in twenty fourteen, Late Phases, Night of the Wolf, The Devil's Candy in twenty fifteen, Blind Spotting First Man, Sneaky Pete in twenty fifteen, Creep Show TV TV series in twenty twenty one, and Grayson Frankie as well in twenty twenty. Wow. Wow, I mean, that's a hell of a goddamn resume. He's got a hell of a re a lot of really great films on there. Yeah. We also have JoBeth Williams in the film, who plays Natalie Standers, which is Doyle's mom in the movie. She has one hundred and twenty five credits on her resume starting in nineteen seventy four, with the greatest performances Jabberwockie in seventy four, Guiding Like Kramer Versus Kramer, The White Shadow, Stir Crazy, The Dogs of War, Poultergeist, Endangered Species, The Big Chill in nineteen eighty three, Day After in eighty three, Teachers in eighty four, American Dreamer, Desert Bloom, Poltergeist two, The Other Side, Murder Or Danned in eighty seven, Memories of Me, Welcome Home, Child in the Night, Victim of Love, Switch in nineteen ninety one.

23:36 Jimmy Smith. Then we have Dutch in ninety one, Stopping My Mam Will Shoot in ninety two, Me Myself and I Sex Love and Cold Hard Cash in ninety three, Final Appeal, Batman animated series, Wyatt Earp Fraser, The Clients, Jungle to Jungle, Dead Man's Gun, Chance of Snow Pain in ninety nine, norm the TV series in two thousand, The Guardian, Criminal a Law and Order special Victims Unit, Judging Amy Fever, Pitch in the Land of Women, Dexter, NCIS, Scandal, Heart of Dixie, Risolian Isles, Good Doctor, and a Million Little Things in twenty twenty three. Wow. Yeah, hell of a hell of a resume on it. Seriously, Also in the cast I didn't have a chance to get much of a resume from, but everybody knows Christopher MacDonald, who plays Doyle's father in this he of course, Shooter McGavin, Happy Gilmore, He's He's the asshole and basically any movie correct. So, as we mentioned, Dutch is currently unavailable to Renter stream, but there is a DVD and Blu ray available still if you are willing to pay for them. There anywhere between, I would say fifteen to twenty.

24:36 Yeah, the DVD is relatively reasonable. The blue ray is gonna run yu bit good luck. Yeah. So what was your first time seeing Dutch Enrique? Oh god, that was that was during the dark times when I first came back to Ohio and I was adjusted. I was adjusting to having Thanksgivings at all. Yeah, I mean I was. I would, I would get I. Would get Thanksgiving dinner when and I lived in Jersey from the Plaza twenty three Diner outside of Butler, New Jersey. The food was really good. They had a deal where it was like twenty three dollars you got a full Thanksgiving meal, so you got like all the side dishes and everything. It was like seven courses or something.

25:17 That's very awesome. So I would I would. Yeah. Yeah, it tastes even better if it's uh, if it's you know, seasoned with your. Tears so fair. When I got back to Ohio and I was spending time with family and stuff like that, I had decided, you know what, I'll you know, I want to get into the season and I that was around the time I had finally watched plane strains and automobiles for the first time, So I started digging around what are the other Thanksgiving movies? And I found Dutch as one of the first suggestions. Yeah, it makes sense, So I got a hold of a copy. I don't remember how I might. That might have still been during my asshole pirrating days, fair enough, but I got a copy. I watched it and I was like, damn, this is a lot of fun.

25:59 And I got very into showing people Dutch to get them, you know, to be aware of it. Yeah, because it. Was just so unknown for so long, at. Least in the group of people I knew every time, and then you'd have a friend who was a little older. But I remember when that came out, and usually it'd say I didn't see it. Yeah, yeah, usually, But that was my first time watching it, and it very quickly became every Thanksgiving watch for me. Yep, so before I started holding Thanksgiving movie night. Yeah, Dutch for me was another recommendation passed down from my buddy Mike, who was the one who had recommended My Bodyguard to me. This was another one that he was kind of shocked I hadn't heard about because I was such a huge John Hughes fan at the time. Yeah.

26:39 Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to watch it with him because it was one we just never got to. But I ended up finding a copy, like I said, for like nine ninety nine at half price books still sealed to get home, watched it and was just really blown away again by what a fun movie it was, how much heart was into it, and the ending is just so much fun with the way everything culminates and how it all wraps up is just perfect thing for both the family sign on it as well as just the comedic tones to it. And like I said, it just got a lot of heart to it that I love about it. Yeah, I could see that. So it's been one that I've revisited for a while now. I mean, of course Thanksgiving Night at your place for the last like eight years. Think at this point. Now it might even be nigh it might be. Yeah, it's been a while.

27:20 I can't remember if I did it before. No, it's at least ten twenty twelve. Twenty thirteen was when I figured the first one that I attended was. Well, that would be more than it's twenty twenty four. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's right. Yeah, yeah, no, so yeah, about twelve years. Okay, so for about twelve years, I have been hosting a screening of planes, trains, and Automobiles followed by Dutch at my home on Thanksgiving evening. Yeah. So the rule is after dinner, you come to my place. You bring your own leftovers. Sometimes there's a pie or something for everybody. We watch planes, Traine, Trains. We all do the ceremonial watching of me cry, and then we take a break, some more junk, and then we watched Dutch and then you know, depending on the mood of the room, we might put on one other thing. Usually it's a Christmas movie like Bring In the Christmas. I know a few times it's been the ref.

28:11 It's been the ref or. We did Black Friday I think was one of well it'd come out. That was the Black Friday themed horror movie with Bruce Campbell. It was totally fun, but it had just come out, so that was kind of the excitement, and we used to tie it into Black Friday shopping back when. It was still a thing. But it was fun. I and oh man, I know some people are gonna be like what, but we had fun going to the door the doorbusters, yeah, best Buy and stuff. There's there's pictures of us standing in line with us waiting to get like the stack of Blu rays that we found our TV. Something like that. But now it's pretty much you don't really have to show up. You just do it all online and stuff, so it's not really For a little while, it was like a tradition. We'd run the best Buy and see what we could.

28:56 Grab Walt, yeah, all the places. Yeah. Also, that was also when I learned that a lot of the Black Friday hate was sensationalized, because people would be like, everybody's just and I'd be like, I walked right into Walmart, bought three things and walked right out. I mean I paid, Dave didn't I did too. The statute limitations is up. You can just say you you just didn't meit your thievery no but but no. So yeah, anyway, that's kind of our relationship with Dutch in a nutshell, a. Very strong relationship. Are you ready to get into the film? Sure? So we open at a fancy party where we meet Natalie Standish, who was attending her ex husband's party with her new boyfriend, Dutch, who was played by Ed O'Neill, and we get a feeling that Natalie does not like the family, and the family doesn't really like her.

29:44 First off, well, what makes you think that, Dave? The fact that she talks about how basically Reid got her pregnant and then left her with the kid and went off to find somebody else. Essentially, that sounds. Like splitting hairs. You know that just happens. Do You Even? Movie will be right back, welcome back to Do You Even? Movie. So Dutch, who is outside smoking us a gar gets locked out of the party, so he tries to get into one of the doors. This gets the attention to one of the dogs that comes at him, and it's a little scrappy dog. So he's trying to kick the dog off him. Somebody in another room lets him in and he walks in, gets a thing of caviar like a cracker that has caviar on it, flips the caviar off and basically says that he makes it a rule.

30:41 He just pops up his middle finger goes, fuck you caviar, says it makes it a rule that he never eats anything that's The fish deposits into a river bed. Yeah, that's pretty funny line, pretty good. Well, and he smiles and kind of chuggles like I'm just trying to make a joke. And then the two stuffy, affluent guys are just kind of like, uh, it's nice meeting you. Shut So he rejoins Natalie at the party, who also is caught sight of Red is walking through as he arrives, and he informs her that he has business in London and he won't be able to spend Thanksgiving with Doyle, their. Son, Doyle, their little bundle of joy. And of course she's like, you know, what have you told Doyle this? And he and his SCHLARMI little speech with SCHLARMI shmarmy. I don't know.

31:22 Well, so hold on, let's explain. So the term that I've always heard would be smarmy or schmarmy if you wanted to. Be I guess a little bit. So you said Schlarmi. You want to know why I said SCHLARMI because I just remembered, why what, there is a woman in my graduating class be that had the last name of Schlarman. So that probably just rolls off and she was horrible, No, she was actually awesome. Well then why are you equating her with somebody? Because that's probably just the way I speak which is marmy. Smarmy. Okay, I was gonna ask you to define what schlarmie means. You don't want to you don't want to throw out a little like one. All right, I find did I would go all in? I don't that. David is just oh well. But anyway, he basically says that he has been able to get ahold of them. So that's when he also requests the Dutch excuse them, because he's basically warning her at this point that you know, hey, I give you the house, I give you the check. You know, if you want to cause trouble for me, all that can go away. And that's when he walks past Dutch and Dutch says, you know, hey, I don't know what you were saying to her, but you know we're together now.

32:19 So I'm just gonna make this clear. You make her or you make her unhappy, I will punch you so fucking hard your dog will bleed. Yeah if you hurt her. Yeah, yeah, well, and he references this is where I mean, what was that actor's name again, Oh, Christopher Donald, Christopher McDonald. Yeah, I mean he is the ultimate asshole. I mean, it's it's him and the guy from Ghostbusters. Yeah, basically, you know William Atherton. William Atherton, that that are just the quintessential jackass character in the movie. And he not only does he tell her like, you know, I give you a house, I give you a check every month. I let your truck driver live with you. With you and my one of my favorite moments in that is that she says he's not a truck driver, and he goes, don't interrupt, which I thought was hilarious because like, well, she's correcting that you're wrong, and you still like, don't interrupt. It was just it's just a very telling moment. But of course, when Dutch tells him he's gonna hit him, there's this great one where he kind of looks at him and he kind of has like that, and then he realizes like, oh he's serious, all right, that's just.

33:18 Like, hey, good talking to you. Oh but that's that's the best part is then is then he just smiles and puts his hand on show and goes hat. He smiles, He's like, good to see you. He walks away, which honestly is how I would. I just all smiles, nice guy. Bye. So the two leave the party and Natalie worries about the power that Reid holds over them, especially her relationship with Doyle, and that's when we cut over to the private school as Natalie calls into the private school on a payphone requesting to speak to Doyle, and we meet Doyle who's cleaning his keyboard meticulously. He has a container of compressed air. Yea, And I want to mention, by the way, he's the only kid, especially this early in the nineties, to ever be in boarding school that has compressed air or not to do some kind of whippets. That's very true, by the way, as your lifestyle coach, doing whippets from a compressed air.

34:10 Can can just kill you. Don't do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta stick to like whipped cream or actually you probably just shouldn't do whipp its too. I would, but you know, actually I recommend you do do whippets. As a man who's never even been drunk, have at it, have a great time, cold beds, Thanksgiving for sake, have a great time. So that's when one of the kids, Teddy, comes in, telling him that his ma is on the phone at Doyle mocks him for one not knocking on the door and he's like, well, the door was open. He's like, oh no, no, it wasn't and just gives him a whole bunch of it was unlocked yes, and basically tells him he's like, I don't have a ma. You probably have a ma. I have a mother. I have a mother. And that's when Ceddy's like, you want to take the call, not shithead?

34:50 Like do you want the carr not shithead? Well I know the two because this little brat, he's such a perfectly written bad, bad person. Yeah, bad child in this case because when he says shithead, he's like, I could have you written up for profanity. And not only does he suggest that, which makes him sound like he's this little weasel because I could have you written up, but then he says, like, you know, he brings up that this kid is only in the school because his father works there. Therefore you're less then because everybody else who's here is here because they're incredibly. Rich and powerful. But the kid snaps back, and this is the other thing is one of the things I love about the Doyle character is yeah, he's a failed bully.

35:38 He's not an actual bully. He would like to bully people he is mean on the inside, but he's not even that good at it because when he says that to what, he says like, you know, your father is a janitor, and the kid goes, well, at least I have a father, and I was like the first time I watched I was like. Natalie gets him on the phone, finally informing him that Reed is not gonna be able to pick him up because he's going to Europe. She tries to reason with him, asking him to come home, but Doyle refuses, commenting he will not share the house with her and the idiot that she's living with. And that's what she's like, He's not an idiot. She defends us, not an idiot. So Doyle then hangs up the phone, and he looks up to see that a bunch of kids have basically gotten up on him over the different flights of stairs, throwing paper airplanes down at him, and one of the kids is like, problems on the home front.

36:29 Oh man, no, And we always joke that's a time for a blanket party because it kind of feels a little bit like full metal jacket. Yeah, they're just it's very clear that the entire dormitory hates him not a fan. No, and this is this is like you want to talk about like obscenely fancy boarding school. He has his own bedroom, yeah, which is extremely uncommon. Now, have you ever thought much about what Doyle would have been like if he had been in say, Toy Soldiers. No, Jesus, if you haven't seen us talk about toys, I highly recommend you you go back and look. Yes, it's a it's a film where a fancy prep school gets taken over by South American terrorists. I feel like Divoff would have had that kid executed just on principle.

37:11 You would be like, do you know what my father is like? Oh no, oh no. So Doyle hangs up the phone, and that's when he goes back to his dorm and he's getting ready to cut a picture of him and his mother in half, but he basically stops himself from doing it. Yeah, which is a great way of telling us that he's not completely against his mother. Yeah, he but he has complex feelings. Yeah. So that's when we see Dutch talking to Natalie as he's preparing dinner. Now, oh my god. So one of the things that I love about this movie that I think is really undersoul is it has so many sincerely funny moments in the early part it does before it kind of eases into being a little bit more sentimental and a little bit more cerebral, I guess, and while being kind of silly at this same time.

38:00 I mean, you know, the dog chasing him is kind of silly. But this whole sequence he's he's basically telling her as he's chopping up a chicken and doing a horrible horror of it's in the culinary world, it's called breaking down a chicken. It's when you basically turn it into two breast, two thighs, two legs, and you know, basically your your bucket, eight piece bucket of CAFC. If that's what breaking down. A chicken starts with. The knife knife's not sharp enough, gets a fucking cleaver, and he's hacking it into pieces. As he's telling her basically that there's no better way for two men to bond than on a road trip. He'll go down, pick him up, and drive up, and he says, And as he's chopping this thing up and putting it all in a crock pot, he's telling her, like you know, almost every time, with very little exception, I love that. He says that too, with very little exception.

38:46 I have a new friend. And as he finishes, he puts in a bunch of potatoes, he puts in a bunch of carrots. He puts a pan. I still don't know what this point, the point of this was, but he has. He pours a pan on it which had a stick of butter in it, which was about a third melted. He just pours the whole thing on top and it brushes his hands. Then it cuts to a timer going off, an egg timer going off, and this is just I this is my favorite. This is the gag that made me like ah the first time I watched it. You see the egg timer go off. It cuts to a beautiful plate of chicken with vegetables, and then it cuts to his girlfriend and she leans over, smells and goes smells good. Then the way they do this joke is perfect. He starts talking, but it's still on her face and he just continues his point. But then it cuts to a wide shot and they're in a restaurant.

39:38 Clearly his meal not turn out. And that just that just oh my god, it it freaking killed me the first time I watched it. And Dutch just keeps insisting. He's like, you know, no, let me do this for you. I will go pick him up and like, you'll see, it'll work out. So then we cut back to Doyle, who's practicing martial arts in a dark gym alone. Well, it's Thanksgiving, right, nearly nobody else is there. That's the saddest part is now it's only Doyle and the kid who's and well, and the kid whose dad works there. But the kid whose dad works there, of course he's there because they're local. Yeah, so his home is down the road, which makes it even sadder. Sad Teddy comes in offering him. He's like, hey, my parents wanted to know, since you're not going home for Thanksgimming, if you wanted to come home for ours, And Doyle's like, oh, I could barely contain my excitement, but I'll have to I'll have to dismiss basically.

40:29 Which which is another testament to like, after how mean he was, the kid still asked to come there because his parents are like, well, we can't not give him an invitation, I mean he's alone. Well, Teddy's reply is the best, have a nice weekend rotting in your own pissed off world. Have a nice weekend. R a nice weekend, rot away in your own pissed off world. Do you Even Move? He will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even Movie? Dutch is coming from Chicago and Doyle school is in Georgia.

41:11 He's at a private school in Georgia, so he is going to get a rental car and drive the rest of the way. And that's when we also see that Doyle tries to get ahold of his dad, but the secretary refuses to give him the number for London. And that's when he threatens the secretary that when my father finds out that you didn't give me the number, you'll be fired. Oh yeah, this kid wheels so much power. So Dutch hits the road. Shortly arriving at the private school in Georgia. He goes into Doyle's room, which he finds empty, and that's why we see Doyle is outside kicking and stopping on grasshoppers and leaves. Yeah, literally the sequence and I never caught this before. Yeah, He's just walking along the grass and there's a really loud chirping sound along with the daytime sounds, and then at one point he jumps up and stomps his foot out and the chirping sound just stopped. Yep, So he literally just killed the grasshopper because he's just a little shitburn.

41:55 Yeah, and I do want to go ahead and say that we're about to get into a lot of physical comedy of this movie. We're probably not gonna do it justice because the physical comedy is so. Dave didn't agree to act them out for the video viewers. If I did, then I do not recall. Oh well, tough shit, I guess, all right. Yeah, yeah, So Dutch looks around his room and that's when Doyle comes back in, thinking that Dutch is his father. He's like dad, and he turns around sees that it's Dutch. Dutch gets pelted with a book. Then Doyle grabs a golf club and like does like two or three swings on him. Yeah, he hits him good, does a flying kick that it gets him in the jaw and then right in then. Ads and then he hits him right in the test. So that's when Dutch is like, you know, you know, what the hell's going on? And also Doyle grabs a BB gun and also gets a couple of shots off in Dutch's ass as well.

42:39 Help now. And one of the best parts of this sequence, oh yes, is when when Doyle's walking in and Dutch's back is facing him. The first few times I saw this, I didn't quite get it, but he goes Dad. And originally when I first saw when Ed O'Neil turns and he has a big smile, at first I thought it was that cheesy movie thing where it's like, oh, he's calling me Dad. Doesn't make any sense when you consider the rest of the movie, But if you really pay attention to what Dutch is doing before he shows up, Dutch is looking at his pictures. He's kind of admiring that the kid has so many interests. He looks at his his I think it was a flute, that was a you know, deconstructed his piano. He's looking at all these things and he's kind of just like, Wow, this kid's got a lot going on.

43:23 So when he turns around, he has this big, dumb smile his face. He's excited to meet this kid because he's like, look at all these interesting things this kid is into, Like this is going to be so fun. And immediately he gets you know, basically mashed in the testes it's perfect. So he got so Doyle tries to get around him after he gets the BB gun off, and he trips him to the floor and he explains he's Dutch dually, he's a friend of his mother's. Why are you beating me up? Why are you beating me up? And Doyle questions if Cample security knows he's here, and Dutch's like, oh, so I can't get an apology, like sorry, I shot you in the ass, mastered your testes, I even for a hello. Yeah, So Doyle states he could apologize, but he chooses not to, and that's when Dutch threatens to shoot him with the BB gun and Doyle says, if you shoot me, I'll have you arrested, and that's when Dutch delivers one of my favorite lines, Well, I'll have to make it look like an accident then, yeah.

44:16 And the best part about when he says that is he has the smile on his face and Doyle just doesn't react. That's not react. He's like, ah, when fun. So Doyle states that he has plans and Dutch mocks him that. He's like, you know, no, oh, so you're gonna stay here watch football game, eat a turkey sandwich, hang yourself in the bathroom, hang yourself in the toilet. Yeah, So Doyle basically states that he's not going with him. Dutch doesn't take no for an answer, and that's when we see that Doyle at one last thing is like, I'm not going with you, throws the bag at Dutch. And then the next scene, Dutch is coming through the double doors with Doyle tied to the hockey stick that he's carrying, because he's like, he's like, oh, so what do you like to do around here? And Doyle's making cag sounds and he's like, oh you let them go, go and grunt me too, me too. Yeah. Well, and he doesn't just have him, He has him basically tied around on a hockey stick and he has a strap going from each end of the hockey stick to help Dutch have.

45:04 Like a grip on. Did you see what the strap was? I noticed at this time? What was it? It's one of his belts because those are really long. Well you would know now you have your yes, yes, I do. Did you put it on your mantles on like a stand or still in the bag? Wow? And you hope somebody is going to send you a Thanksgiving dinner with that adage. Wow, what am I supposed to come on the show and tied around my head? Yes? Fair enough. I mean all I'm saying is, wow, wow. I think we need we have a do you even movie? Shirt? You know at doevenmovie dot com. But I think we need to we finally need to release the second shirt and should just be a shot of you, and it just says David hates you. It doesn't even say do you even movie or anything. It's just sure, maybe I'll take the shot of you trying to to smirk or you look incredibly.

45:57 Al Gore's pictures are embarrassing when I didn't have feelings that day. So that's when Dutch gets him in the car. They're driving around, and it's a great shot because we see the Interstate and then they pan over to the back roads where we see Duchess driving. Yeah, Dutch has chosen, for lack of a better term, the scenic route. The scenic route, and even comments on the scenic round because all you see on the interstate's concrete. Yeah I know, but in the scenic route, oh yeah. So and most importantly, of course, the trip is going to take maybe ten more hours, Yeah, if you take that route. I mean, I'm not exactly sure how long that drive would be. It's got to be at least fifteen sixteen hours if you were driving on stop.

46:39 Yeah. So he also apologizes to Doyle about losing his temper, and he says, you know, I don't know you know that the pair of underwear stuff in your mouth. I don't if they were clean or not. He's still tied up in the back seat. Yeah, and he has a pair of underwear gagging him and that's one of those Yeah, I didn't check if those were clean or not. So then he spits him out, and that's when, you know, he basically tells him to stop the car. He's like, oh no, no, this is a soft shoulder up here, you know, I don't want to break too quickly. And he's like stop. So he breaks and Doyle goes right to the floor of the car. He slams on the brakes as hard as he can, yeah, and makes the car just kind of spin out. It's so good. So that's when he also basically tells Doyle that you know, he's he's not anybody's He's not anybody to be messed around with. He's got a pinky ring that he punched somebody in the face, and now they dribble when they smile.

47:30 He has a dent in his forehead about the size of my pinky ring. Yeah, and now he dribbles when he smiles. Now he's nicer. He's a nice guy, and he dribbles when he smiles. So that's also when Doyle tells him that when his father finds out what he's done to him, he'll sue his working class ass into destitution. Yeah, and this is where we get a lot of the the kind of class warfare part of the film, and it is a major part of it. There's a whole element about how working glass and poorer people are are kind and generous. What I love when he delivers that line to Dutch because Dutch just goes like, yeah. So Dutch questions how does he know he's working class, and Doyle states his clothes, his vulgar language, and his mother's taste in women explains everything he needs to know.

48:18 I mean, got him. Yeah, So Dutch states, you know that his father was was a bricklayer. He used to be a concord poor his mother worked Concord. His mother worked at a laundry at a motel or a hotel in Detroit. Yeah, and that's he said, He's very proud. He always like, you must be very proud. He's like, I am, actually. Well, And that always resonated with me because people, I mean, I I honestly, to be completely frank, I haven't met a lot of like high falutin asshole rich people. Most of the rich people I meet are pretty are surprisingly down to earth. But and I mean I've I have a few friends who are like really freaking loaded, and they're always pretty chill. But the whole idea, like you must be very proud, Like why would he be proud of Like we're going in a laundry. It's like, no, there's a lot to be proud about that your mother or your father did some what you would consider menial task for low wages, just to put food on the table.

49:16 That is something to be very proud of. And that's a very American attitude. It is very very much. And that's when he also asked Doyle if he has any living antidotes, and Doyle comments he's living through one right now. Well. In Dutchess response, does that, you know there's. Truth in that. So that's when Doyle believes Dutch is only dating his mother for her money. In Dutch states, you know, he may not look like it, but his income is actually pretty decent and a site more than his father gives them to live on. Well, and that's one of the duliisms. There are some dulisms in this that are really fascinating. Yeah, Dutch says weird things, and he says, I may may not look like I could finance a trip to. The zoo, but I'd make a pretty nice living. What was it he says?

49:57 He says, I don't care if you live, die or grow mushrooms in your crack. I feel like Ed O'Neal might have made some of them. Of those, they're really weird. Yeah, so, but the dualisms are one of my favorite parts of the film. Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? But he also comments that he's like, you know, oh, but that's bad because it's working money. I work for my money and that's a step down in your eyes. So Dutch taunted Oile with a rendition of I'm so lonesome I could cry which is a great scene.

50:40 Yeah, yeah, he's and he's he's wailing it out of tune. It's so good. So sometime down the road, Dutch pulls over the car to a firework and poorium by the gas station where he gets the car gassed up, and he also is excitedly racing inside to buy fireworks and Doyle does not want to come. Well, this scene I love because growing up we would have to go down to Tennessee a lot in Kentucky, a lot for family, and uh oh, those fireworks stands they were that well they weren't even stands, I mean. They were big buildings. They were the best. So he gets back in the car and he asks if he likes fireworks. Doyle sits in silence before telling him fireworks are illegal in Illinois, and he says yeah, but we're in Tennessee. And he's like, you know, so we can shoot him off and he's like right here, and he's like, well no, we'll go down the road a few miles, go down the road, apiece, And he's like and for later, I got a bag of pretzels and a deck of laying car cards.

51:27 And then he does this whole thing that's like a magic trick where he brings up a card with one of his fingers up to the point where you almost see the exposed breasts of a woman on the playing card, and then puts it back down and the music is it's this bombasting horn thing. I it's it's this kind of energy that makes me love the movie. And then of course the line he says to Dutch after that. Shore make a big demented child. And Dutchess response to your like a big demented child, and he goes He's just like yeah. So they go down the rows a few way and Dutch just has fun going through the fireworks. He's lighting off the small ones, he's lighting off some big ones, and then he gets to a giant one that spins that he puts on a fence until the whole thing starts spinning off.

52:11 It's worth mentioning though Doyle has stayed in the car and is pretending that this is not amusing or cool. In fact, he catches himself looking at some of the fireworks and going like wow, and then he's like no, no, no, no fun. This isn't fun. And yeah, so yeah, the fireworks spinner comes right off the thing and starts chasing. Duty and then lands in the bag of all the fireworks, igniting them all. Well, and while I do like this scene, this is one of the scenes that really is one of the biggest problems this movie has is these really silly, broad comedic moments. They kind of work against the movie in the context of the era came out and stuff. It makes people kind of shrug it off, like there was no even for even as ridiculous as Home Alone was, Like, there wasn't a firework chasing Kevin around that something. You know, those things were kind of old slapstick yeah things. And that's ironic because if you look at Home Alone, it's totally slapstick yeah, but it's like a different era of slapstick.

53:12 It's a little bit more serious while being still very goofy. But I think that one of the things that hurt Dutch back then was its fearless, fearlessness toward being goofy, having some big, goofy silly moments, which then I think were especially for audiences then jarring when the movie got more serious, like it's going to shortly after this sequence. But I will also say, in my humble opinion, those really broad, ridiculous comedic moments, and there aren't even that many movies. I think they've aged like fine wine. They make the movie stand out, They make you because you forget for me anyway, I've watched this movie at least fifteen times. Yeah, and the ridiculous moments kind of you kind of forget about them because there's so many big, heartfelt dramatic scenes later yeah, and in a few early on, so you kind of forget. So when you're watching it and you're like, oh, man, can't wait to get to the part with the crying.

54:11 I can't wait to get to this part. Then also you're like, oh, yeah, the fireworks it's a it's so in screenwriting, there's a term fun in games. It's it's sequences. It's it's where in the scripture allowed to just have fun and it doesn't have to serve the plot perfectly. Yeah, this is a literal definition of that concept. That makes absolute sense. So the fireworks spins off lands into the other bag. They all start going off. Dutch throws his coat over it, which starts taking all the shrapnel from the fire work. Yeah, the fireworks just shoot right through his coat and also burn it a little, and the pretzels, those poor rolled golds. Rolled golds are gone. So then want some. Now the fireworks not pop, and he goes over to get his jacket, which has a giant hole in the back of it. Now feathers are flying out.

54:55 Yeah, there's there. Whatever the down stuffing or whatever is in it. It's just every time he goes it's it's one of those big puffy coats, you know, for winter. So every time he goes to like adjust it and like flap it down, it just puffs a ton of those out. And as he's walking to. The car, it's just smoked. Smoke, it's just coming off his back. So he gets in the gar and he's like, oh, so you want to eat? Now? Cut to the greasiest spoon. No, no, no, no, what I mean it's the Royal Now, Dave does not mean that it's cutting to a greasy spoon diner, although it is. It is. What we mean is we cut to a giant griddle full of the fattiest food.

55:37 Ever hotcakes, sausage, bacon, and. The guy is literally and literally in the literal sense. Yes, he's ladling on more grease. As you see this presented to you. He's greasing up the pork chops. He's pouring oil on top of everything everything. So it is a grease sea spoon introduced by a greasy spoon. So I felt that that's worth mentioning. Also, everybody in this establishment is depicted as ugly and filthy. Smoking the ribbon rib bones. Yeah, literally, the guy next to him is just sitting there chewing on a ribbone and he's missing tee teeth.

56:21 What's ketchup on it? And starts going out. He puts ketchup on it, starts like sucking it off. The woman with her cigarette ash that is like fucking five inches. It's like cartoonishly long cigarette ash. So then Doyle has the waitress come up. She's like, what will it be? And he takes the menu, opens it or tries. To, yeah, the menu as he grabs the menu, and it becomes clear that it is extremely stick. To Dicky, and he goes, what'll what will make me? What won't make me? Vomit? And she like looks back at her chef who just like, I don't know. Yeah, he shrugs. So she takes the menu from him, which like rips off of his hands. Yeah, and then she looks like hmm, which is is kind of. The perfect reaction. Yeah, no offense, no whatever. They're just like, I don't know. Yeah, when you ask, what won't make you vomit?

57:05 So Dutch also calls Natalie, lying and telling her there's been a few problems but nothing serious and everything should be fine. I guess it depends on your definition is serious. I guess we'll get there. So sometime later, Doyle and Dutch are back on the road. They start to fight over the volume of the radio in the car, the heat in the car, raising and lowering the window, and the volume. I mean, it's kind of a back and forth for about three times between the two. It's a very cute, simple little it's basically boundary testing. Yeah. So you know, Dutch wants the bluegrass music on, yep, Doyle wants it turned down up. Yeah, he turns the heat on. He gets ready to smoke a scar two. That's one of my favorite parts. He puts the cigar in his mouth and he goes, does smoke bother you?

57:47 And he goes yes. And the way he says it is like he knows he has to say that to win, not because he's admitting defeat. Well, wasn't it right before? It was right before this, he said. He said to him, like, I've beaten people way bigger than you would, tougher than. Because it's when he pushes the seat up to the to the steering wheel. Yeah. Yeah, so he's so basically they're they're in this like TETs a tet fighting out for the car's supremacy. Yeah, and uh and and he tells him, you know, to smoke bother you. He's like, yes, it does. And he's like, so he puts the cigar in his about start lights and getting ready to light it. So then he tells him, like you are about what was He says, like, you're about as threatening to me as a cloudy day.

58:27 It's a cloudy day. But then he also shares. Some stuff I think is really worth mentioning, Like Dutch says like, look, I've been beaten, I've had my nose broken, I've been beaten to a bloody pulp and left for dead. And I believe him. And so he says all this, and he's like, so I'm not afraid of you or whatever. So they basically agree that they're going that he that he's going to try to beat Dutch. And he offers him the original bet is five thousand dollars. Yeah, and he's like, I bet you have it. Don't get a gilded box, yeah, and a little gilded box under your bed. He's like, let's keep it twenty bucks and as they go to shake, Doyle grabs the cigar throws it right into Dutchess crotch. Yes, which causes them to almost crash the car.

59:07 Almost crash the car and immediately. Makes it clear that that's I mean, that's not appropriate. No, no, that's not okay. So he pulls off to the side of the road there by a snowy field and pulls Doyle out of the car, throws up his jacket and that's when Doyle just starts pelting the car with rocks or snows dirt clots. Yeah, And he basically tells him that like he won the bet, and he's like, you know, if you throw one more thing, you throw one more thing at the I'm gonna leave you and drive away. And he's like, you promise guaranteed. So Doyle throws one more dirt clot. And Dutch gets it, gets it as he's getting in the car. He says, I'll see you at the hotel down the road. About fifty miles. And this is great because as he drives off toyles, You're like, wait, wait, I'll die, I'll die.

59:55 So and we forgot to mention it's snowy. It's snowy. It is clearly and there's snow all over the place. Yeah. So we see Doyle sometime later in a phone booth making a call to his mother and she's walking to the house. She answers and he remains silent. He actually even has a single tear in his eye too. Yeah. Yeah, and that's when we see that he basically puts the phone downtown, hangs up, and razums walking back down the highway. Dutch at the hotel at this point keeps looking out the window waiting for Doyle to arrive. Do You Even? Movie will be right back, welcome back to Do You Even?

1:00:36 Movie? Yeah, and this is another part that I really love. That's really subtle. Yeah. He's basically standing there, unlit cigar ins and mouth chewing on it, looking out the window, kind of looking around, looking out the window. He's not like crazy nervous, but he's clearly worrying a little bit. And then when he sees Doyle start to make his way up, I assume that the place was probably more like five miles down the road probably, which is a long hype. Oh yeah. But as he notices him, what does he do? He runs over to the bed, lays down on the bed, opens up a book, and acts like he didn't give a shit.

1:01:17 Nope, none. And Doyle of course walks through the motor court. It is a absolute like motor court motel. Oh yeah. He playing the song from Senator too. Yeah, guitars cadillacs. And and I can't remember. Something dreams anyway, uh but uh, And he sees where the car is parked in front of so he walks up and opens the door. And and I love dutchess reaction to the open door is he touches something. Like, oh, shut the door. Will I love that. He's just like, it's cold out there, don't you know. And of course Doyle is like, you know, I could have frozen to death. He's like, ah, you got not to death, Like it's not that cold. You could have frozen. But he's like, no, well you wouldn't have not solid anyway, it's not quite cold enough yet.

1:01:59 So Oil is like, you know, where's my bag? And he's like, oh, I left it the car. I didn't feel like bringing it in. I left in the car. I thought you. I figured you for dead, figured you for dead. So that's that's that's a good line. I figured you for dead, figured you for dead. So Doyle is like, and I have the keys. He tosses in the keys and he tells him to lock up. So Doyle goes out to the car and wouldn't you know it, the car starts up. And one of the silliest moments but it works, is when he hears the engine. They do an extreme close up. Ed O'Neil sits up and his face is right in the lens and he hears it and he jumps up and and sees Doyle pulled. The car out and gets like thrown back as he's pulling. Yeah, he has no idea how to drive. So now now Dutch is trying to get his pants and shoes, his shirt of fence.

1:02:42 He's going around run through the snow. And then Dutch gets outside, sees the car stop in the middle of the road and a semi truck is heading right for it and ssh just right into. It, and I mean I I mean clobbers it like it makes no sense that the truck driver didn't see it sooner. No, he planted by the time he hits his brakes. I mean it's icy road, it doesn't matter. No, So it smashes the car. Dutch chases after. As they're going over an overpass of some sort of a bridge. The car hits the bridge, pulls away from the front of the truck, flips over and smashes all while Dutchy's yelling Doyle Doyle. So he runs down to the car looking for let's just say a child.

1:03:24 Child corpse at this point. Yeah, And as he's looking, he looks up to where the road is and Doyle's standing there. And he says, I guess this makes us even. And in that moment things are getting a little too serious. So back at the back at the motel, dutch is talking to the semi truck driver played by the great Mickey Jones. He is one of those character actors that has been everything from Justified to Dadine to sling Blade to Vacation. Famously, in Vacation, he's a mechanic and I'm asking how much you. Got yes, yes, And one of my favorites was his recurring role on Home Improvement. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, he played one of the There was this recurring gag where a band of guys from a oh they weren't always a band, but it's a group of guys. Yeah, we're from a construction site would come on and he was one of the guys and they always made me laugh out loud.

1:04:13 So good. So he's talking to Dutch and he thanks him for going along with the story and like basically says, you know, here's some money for your repairs that if you need more, here's my card, you know, call me. Yeah. It seems like they probably told the police that it was just an accident. Nobody was at fault. Yeah, And that's when the semidrug driver is like, you're lucky that your daddy say enough you also, I'd break every bone in your body, son. But then he just looks at Dutch like yeah, like he just was trying to straighten the kid out, because Dutch mentions like he has emotional problems. Yeah you know, so yeah, if you're. For your daddy, and then he looks at and just packs him on this other side Dutch gives him this giant wad of cash and his card says, if that's not enough to cover the repairs, in your time. My office and we'll take care of you. So on the truck by the way, barely hurt.

1:04:53 Yeah, So he goes back in and he pushes Doyle inside, and he tells him like, this is not funn in games, Like you know, that's serious. That poor guy was on his way home to see his family, and you could have jeopardized that. If not anybody else could have killed him, you could have killed him. So he says basically, at this time, it's not funny games. This is a full blown mission. He will not be beaten, and when he gets him to his mother's doorstep, he's gonna be one whipped little puppy. So Doyle draws his hands back, telling him he's had enough, and Dutch tells him, all right, fine, if you want to fight, let's fight. But none of that karate or geometry shit. He calls it geometry. I think he was gonna say judo, which is extra funny because Ed O'Neill decorated martial artists. He is, I forget what he studies. I think it might be ju jitsu. Got it in the in the fat and. Yeah, we'll talk about more later.

1:05:34 So Doyle then basically has his hands made into fist and he's like, put your little thummies down, fist. He's like, no, no, none of that good old American street fighting. And then he tells him he'll give him the first shot, which Doyle takes and knocks ed O'Neill to the floor and it's. Very funny because he falls down and his asses just up because he had his hands. In his pockets. Yeah, so he's just out cold, and Doyle's looking at his fists. Like yeah, and he realizes what he's done, so he scampers with the bathroom and locks himself in. Which is such a that's so believable. So later that night, Dutch is a and laying in bed with Doyle's asleep in the next bed, and he's going through Doyle's wallet, just looking at the pictures and the money, like Doyle has like five hundred dollars wallet. Crazy, and he also finds a picture of him and his mom and Doyle on the other side of the on the other side of the room in his bed wakes up grabbing the racy playing cards and starts going through them doing the little Dutch hand movements as well.

1:06:23 Yeah, he's trying to make it happen himself, and he's very you know, amused and having a. Great time with I know where Dutch is noticing him and the music is playing. But it's it's well, it's a raunchy way of telling it. It's a sweet scene because as the plays and stuff, it cuts to Dutch and this then the gentle theme plays and Dutch is just happy. He's being a. Kid, being a kid. Yeah, And that's that's the part that is really like hits me with this movie, is what Dutch really wants is for him to stop being so serious all the time. And I'll tell the stories later, but I was very like doile Ill when I was a kid. Now I wasn't a rich kid or anything, but I was a very very nervous and serious child. It's one of the reasons I love this movie. But we'll talk about that a little bit.

1:07:13 So the next morning, Doyle and Dutch sit at a diner as Doyle asked him, how's his face? And Dutch is like, you know, you know, it would take someone higher to give me permanent damage, and Doyle informs him that he could have really hurt him because he's been him working on his brown belt for the last three years. Well he's a high brown belt, high brown boat. Yeah, And Doyle comments that he could have really hurt him, and it's just that his working class ego is being too much for him to handle someone like him kid. So Dutch tells him to shut up, and also, you know yesterday you barely said a word. Today you're a parrot. Also, he wants to order, and that's when Doyle basically says, you know you can't beat me, and he's like, well, you know that may be true, but there's one thing I know that you don't. I can pay for my breakfast. Yeah, one thing I could do that you can't. I could pay for my breakfast.

1:07:55 And it cuts to them outside and He'll just is like like really play up, like oh, like he's burping and he's in his like stomach is so full. Nothing burber like bacon, and Doyle looks just miserable. Your water look tasty. So that is when Dutch goes to stretch his thumb out and Doyle comments how dangerous hitchhiking can be and he's like, well, you know, we're not without means, and he's like, you got a better idea? Well, he's like, I got twenty bucks. Yeah. So Dutch comments he doesn't want to call because he has masculine pride, just a man in his wits. And sometime that night. We see the stupid working. Yeah. Yeah, sometime that night we see Doyle and Dutch a founder ride via public transportation. They're sitting on a bus and Doyle smarts off the two guys that have a blaster boom box on it, and he comments, you know, can you turn that down please? The guy turns it down.

1:08:45 But then they also look down at doyle shoes and he's like, how much you pay for those shoes? My buddy likes those shoes. Yeah, Doyle's about to learn something new. So as Doyle gets off on the next stop, he does not have his shoes anymore. He's wearing a pair of just like goofy dress shoes or whatever. My thought was, I'm impressed that that guy's feet were so small that he could swap with a thirteen year old. So, also Dutch is trying to call Natalie, and he tells Doyle to come to speak to his mom. Doyle completely ignores him and walks off to the bathroom. And that's when Doyle finishes up his business. He sees a man doing a sink bath and he's man looks at me, He's like, are you getting for your turkey dinner? David? What the politically correct turn. I know is horror horse bath? I said, sink bath.

1:09:25 It's a horrors bath. But no, it's actually a really funny yeah moment. Yeah, the guy is scrubbing his armpits as Doyle is kind of staring at him, kind of in shock. Yeah, and then. He looks right at Doyle and goes getting hungry for your turkey dinner? Do you even move? He will be right back. Welcome back to do you even movie? So that's when back outside they you are going to practice their faces of looking pitiful so that they can hitch a ride for their next to the next stop.

1:10:05 Yeah, Dutch is trying to teach him how to look pathetic as they sit on this curve with their sign that just says Chicago. Come on, act like you're not going to get twenty one million dollars. You're not gonna get twenty million dollars when you hear twenty one. Yeah, so that's when they catch the eye of a two women that are basically going or excuse me, they kiss the eye of two women because they're seeing the two and that's when they think that they're a couple of drifters, so they offer them a ride, and we find out that these are two call girls played by eg Daily and what's the other chick's name. I don't know, geez, what, I don't know, just a little bit harsh. Toward them, harsh? What do you mean, I don't know you? But no, they get picked up by these two women. Are you Myers Daily? They find out that they one of them, which one's the Tommy Pickles voice Haley? Which is the driver? That's Egy Daily?

1:10:52 Yeah, yeah, she's she's the voice of Tommy Pickles. Yeah. They find out that they are a couple of high end call girls coming up from an electronics convention and Louisiana on their way home to the Chicago Land area. Yeah. When they've picked these two up, and meanwhile, you know, Dutch's kind of shock. He picks up on it pretty quick. Well. The fact that she leans over says, I didn't want to say prostitute in front of the boy. So now they're driving along, Doyle really enjoying infatuated with Brock. Yeah, he is in law. He's never met a young woman who would even pretend to listen to him. Well, he also goes to all boys' school. Yes, So sometime later we see Dutchess falling asleep as Haley takes notice of his wallet and pockets it really quick, and she also takes notice of his pinky ring, which she's trying to get off him. Meanwhile, Brock and Doyle in the backseater having a heart to heart because he's basically talking about how Dutch is his mom's boyfriend. They're not getting along super well. His mom is the one that kind of fucked it up with him, her and his bother and everything, and.

1:11:50 She says it takes two to think make a thing go bad. Yeah, and also that maybe it's easier to blame your mom, maybe trying to give Dutch a chance in Doyle comments he doesn't think that'll happen. Meanwhile, while this is happening, Haley's trying to get his ring off, is trying to use lotion which squirts into Dutch's mouth. Well, Jet Dutch has this giant pinky ring, which he referenced earlier. Yeah, and she's yeah, she has this little tiny bottle of lotion squirts it right in his mouth, so she kind of hides everything and he's just just moving doing his mouth around, and he's like uh, and he kind of wakes up briefly and then falls. Right back to sleep. So the next morning, the crew pull into a gas station and that's when she wakes up Dutch and Brock is also woken up by Haley, who wakes up Doyle, who has falling asleep, fakes down on her chest. Yes, indeed, I also noticed that he's drooling a ton. Don't worry, it's not the first time for her. So that's when they basically tell that. Dutch is like, hey, you know, I'll take the next round driving, and she's like, no, I'm fine, but can you get some directions, like I'm a little lost, just want to sure we're going in the right place. And he's like, did we have time to eat? And she's like, yeah, go and grab a table. We'll join you when we're done out here, And of course Doyle wants to stay with Brock, and Brock's like, I gotta get something out of my bag. I'll catch up with you. So they go back inside, and that's when Brock is That's when Doyle is like, you know, I want to I don't want to waste too much time, Like I want to get back in the car, and Dutch is like, yeah, I know why you want to get back.

1:13:07 I know you want to get back in the car. Yeah, you know what your mother would think. I have half a mind to not accept the rest of their right. And that's when Doyle says, you don't accept the ride, I'll tell mom the whole story, and Dutch is like, you had a little bit of a hypocritical thing going, don't you. You're a little bit of a hypocrite, aren't you. Yeah, anybody else wants to get their their rockets off, you're uh, you're too good for it. But the moment you see, uh, I forget. The mist twister. Yeah, misster Twister will teach him that missile twister will teach you things that you should only learn. In prin person. So that's when the semi pulls away, they see the car is gone. Dutch races outside, realizing that they've been completely grifted, that his money's gone and everything, and his last cigar. They took my money, It took my credit cards, they took my last cigar.

1:13:47 So Dutch confesses that he had money, and that's when they almost get into it again. Doyle calls him a chicken and Dutch goes to kick him, slipping, losing his shoe, which flies up in the air and then comes down smacking him right in the face. Yes, pretty much the last moment of slapstick other than the main ending Yeah yeah, And did you mention his pants rip? Oh? Yeah, his pants split on the ass too, because why not. And that's when he tells them his plants more up in the face, and Dutch tells them he's just gonna sit here and hope he gets arrested and Doyle can go call his mom and have somebody come pick him up. I sit here, and I hope I get arrested so I can finally get a night's sleep. And he can also tell his mother that good luck. The Dutch boys calling it quits, Doyle worries that Natalie will blame him in Dutch comments that he's talked and talked until he could pute coat hangers.

1:14:28 Another of my favorite Dutch dulisms. Doyle admits he doesn't hate his mother for the record, and even asked Dutch if she has said that Doyle hates her, and that's when he kind of got start to see that Doyle was kind of starting to come around because he even admits that for a second that he was getting hot and that he that he got horny in the back seat. It's actually another cute, weird, cute moment. Yeah, he says, because you got proud and I got horn horny, and Dutch goes, you did. He's like smiling because again it's like at least he admits he made a mistake. So now they've both they're both on the same page. And before this, I did forget to mention. Doyle calls his father's apartment, finds out that there's somebody at his apartment that's a woman and she's like, oh, he's asleep. Yeah, so his dad did not go to London out.

1:15:13 So now Doyle has realized that his father said he was going to be out of town on the holiday just so we could hang out with some chicks. Yeah. So that's when Doyle was like, you know, let's keep going, like we don't have to call mother for help, Like, you know, we can keep going, and he even a Dutch shows him the baby gun, reminding you of the arrangement and if he lets it go, they'll call it even and. Basically says, I will if you if you let me call your mom and just get us help to get home. Yeah, I'll let go of the agreement that I get to shoot you one in the butt. Yeah, And he's like no. Yeah, So Doyle admits again that you know, he wants to see this through. They share a high five, and Doyle tells him that he's going to get them home. We see that they are now hitching a ride, hiding in concrete. But you forgot the one thing I really love. Oh what's that? He says, like, I'm going to get you home and he's like he's like yeah, and then the music swells, it swells as swell as he goes, are you still gonna shoot me in the butt?

1:16:01 Yeah? And the music swells even where and then he goes yes, yes. So then they're they're in industrial piping. Yeah, yeah, industrial concrete piping. So they ride into an auto yard and that's when he's like, you know, I don't know where we are. Maybe we can find some security to help us. I'm sure they'd be happy to they are not. Security starts basically kicking them out, and that's when Doyle doesn't take kindly. He goes up to one of the guards, threatening to sue him, and he tells them that you know, you can't hit me because I'm a kid, I'm a minor, and that's when the guard just straight up throws Doyle into a fence. Yeah, he does not care at all. So that's when Doyle is like injured at this point, and Dutch comes over. He's like, you know, hey man, you know, leave the kid alone. We'll leave and he's like, yeah, you will, and the guards beat him a little bit. They throw Dutch around, and that's when Doyle decides to bounce off the fence and do a flying kick, hits the guard. One of the guards takes their nightstick and accidentally hits the other guard. They're pissed now.

1:16:49 Yeah, but so at first it's gonna be you think it's gonna be cute because Doyle is like fighting back. Yeah, but as soon as they as they pull out that night stick, they whack Doyle hard. And that's when when Dutch is just like, guys, guys, we'll leave right now, we'll leave right now. He's just a kid, He's just a kid. But at that point they're like, no, we want revenge. Yeah, So Doyle sees to be begun poking out of Dutchess pants. He grabs it, and that's when Doyle is starting to get called Pete by Dutch because he's basically saying like Pete, Pete, don't do it. Don't do it, man, don't do it, Pete. Don't listen to the voices. Pete, tell the voices you just killed someone. Well, no, the thing he says that is like perfect. He says, don't be crazy, Pete, don't be crazy, which is him signaling him to act crazy. So he is, but his crazy acting is nuts. Just get out there the voices. They won't tell the voices you just killed somebody. I just killed somebody.

1:17:38 They're not listening. And then but he's like, please, please, I have a wife for kids. He's like, tell me that. Now I'm gonna kill your family. I gotta kill your own family too. So that's when he tells Doyle as Pete that he's going. He's like, you know, we can find a nice hotel to burn down, you know, we can get the voices to go away. So he gets Dutch and Doyle leave completely fine, and they find themselves at a restaurant. Well they leave completely fine, except that they're both like bleed, yeah, and you're beaten up. Ye hurt very bad. And they're filthy and filthy because they find themselves into a restaurant. And that's when Dutchess trying to get Doyle to use a bathroom so that he can clean his cut up, and this waitress is like, uh, can you please leave? Like we don't need your kind year And. For the record, it's not even that nice of a restaurant. I mean it's not like a bat but it's like it's not much better than like a Perkin, yes basically, you know, like it's not like it's a hoity twenty, like there are boots, yeah, you know geez.

1:18:27 So that's when he's like, you know, hey, the boy has a cut, like, all wait outside, and that's when she gets somebody on them, the couple that she is helping. All he asks is to let him wash his face, wash his face, bathroom. He's not even saying like do anything for it. I'll stay outside, just let him wash his face. Yeah. And the couple that she is waiting on, they stand up. They're like, you know, are you are? Are you both like on the road, on the road. Yeah, and that's what he's like, Yeah, we are that. They basically were on their way to Chicago. They lost their car and got robbed, so then the couple drives them to a center for displaced families. Yeah. So this is like, so at this point, we don't know exactly how far from Chicago they are, but we know they're not very far. They're almost home.

1:19:07 And this affluent couple, the woman, she's very like shocked at how they're doing. So he's like, we want to help you. They drop them basically at a homeless when they could have just driven them home easily, Like it can't be more than an hour each way. They dropped them at this homeless shelter. And this is where the movie really makes its big turn. Absolutely, this is one of my favorite parts of the whole film. And when I start to get very emotional when I watch. It, I feel you. So we see Dutch and Doyle sitting down to dinner at the shelter, and that's when Doyle preps it, kind of like he's at a fancy restaurant.

1:19:49 Doyle takes all of his silverware and everything he's been given for his his free meal, and he arranges the spoons, he arranges the fork and knife, he arranges the plate. He washes his hands with little moist tallette. He puts the napkin down on his lap. He then tastes his stew, breaks his bread. At one point, Dutch leans over and he's like, would you like to see the Wineless? It's very very good, and the people watching on are just completely shocked. Yea, what on earth. Do you even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do you even?

1:20:31 Movie? So he breaks apart his role at one point and setting on his plate, and this little girl sitting next to him reaches over and he puts his hand on top of her. He couldn't be four years old, yeah, and he says he says, no, that's that's mine. And you see Dutch like look at him, like not giving a judging look or anything. He just kind of looks at him. He's just watching. And that's when Doyle takes a second and then gives her the other half of the role, and Dutch is like, that was very nice of you. Yeah, it was. It was. It's a really sweet moment because Doyle doesn't need that bread, but he has that moment. He puts his hand on he's like that's mine. Yeah, and it's very the way he was at the start of the movie. Yeah. But then after he thinks for a few moments, he's like, there you go. So then we see Dutch and Doyle, along with the rest, are trying to get some sleep. They have some cots and Dutchess cot keeps dumping him loudly to the floor.

1:21:17 It basically collapses. It makes a loud screeching sound followed by a thump. It happens like twice, and. It's as everybody is asleep, yeah basically, yeah, so he wakes everybody up in there. And there's this one particularly this one old guy that keep focusing on who's like shh, like he's so mad. It's like everything okay, and he's like, I got it. It's just fine. So he asked Doyle to switch cots at this point, so they switch Cotts and that's when Doyle is looking up and around. He catches the eye the little girl from earlier, and her mother close by tells him that, you know, they've been at the shelter now for about a week. Her husband lost his job back in June, working for an auto company that went broke, and adding that they were living out of the back of their car before they got here. Doyle then tells her that they just got here tonight, and she's like, you know, with your dad, And he takes a second and he's like, yeah, and we see that Dutch on the other end of the mattresses just like smiles.

1:22:06 Hearing that, Yeah, I like to think it's Dutch, was like, good, he's learning to lie. So Dutch hearing this, smiles as she continues asking about his mother, and she confirms that she's in Chicago. She reminds him to have hope. That's all they can do in a place like this, or even in life right now. So then Doyle rose back over to sleep, and Dutch tells him that he called his mom while he was brushing his teeth, telling her that they were staying at a holiday n so she wouldn't worry. He's like, is that okay? And he's like yeah, that's fine. So then Doyle asked him if he's like, you know, did you hear what I said? And Dutch like, oh no, He's like, well I meant it, and Dutch goes out, I appreciate that. And then he's like, are you still gonna shoot me in the ass? And Dutch leans over and goes yes, And then the cot crumples.

1:22:46 It and then it crashes again and wakes everybody up. Then we smash cut two. Next morning, an old beat up station wagon YEP driving across the highway on its way to Chicago with the family that they had at the shelter, driving Dutch and Doyle to their mom. And they pass a huge construction site. A gigantic yeah, like like a massive, massive building under construction with a big sign that says duly construction. And that is when we fully because earlier Dutch had referenced like, I make more money than your mother your father gives your mother. Now we've realized that Dutch is extremely successful, but he's one of those guys, one of those guys who doesn't like flaunt it, you know, or or or doesn't feel the need to live much beyond his means, and as they arrive at the very fancy house that his mother lives at. Dutch tells the father, you call my office on Monday and we're gonna find you something.

1:23:47 We're gonna find you something. See what I can do for you. So yeah, Before they arrive, though, we also see that Natalie and the housekeeper at the house, the doorbell rings multiple times. She goes into the door, opens it, expecting it to be Dutch. She plants a kiss on the person, only to find out it's Reed, who goes, oh, were you expecting the mailman? Which is. Give credit where credits due, solid Zinger, solid Zinger, take that single mom that I try to ruin the life of. So Dutch and Doyle arrive at the house. The family wishes them a happy Thanksgiving. Natalie sets the table as the doorbell rings again. Reid stands up. He's got his cocktail and sets it down and goes into the door, greeting them first because he wants to surprise Doyle. Yeah, So he goes to the door and he's like, hey, surprise, and Doyle looks right past him.

1:24:28 Well, and we one thing we skipped over because it was a very small thing. Yeah, was He wakes up in bed and his girlfriend says the phone rang, Oh yeah, it was a kid, kid yeah, and he's like what, So now he knows the ruse is up, so he's trying to play it off, like, no, no, Doyle, what I did was I lied to. Crush your feelings? Yeah, but now here I am. So that's when Doyle looks right past Reed, goes right past him into the arms of his mom and just gives a giant hug. It's a real sweet singing. He kills me the way he looks up and his mother's just standing there, Yeah, looking at him so happily. Kills me, breaks my heart, makes me, makes me want to cry. So Red tells Doyle to say goodbye to his mother as they have a lot to talk about, adding he canceled a very important trip to spend time with Doyle, and Doyle tells him, no, you didn't. I called the house like I know you weren't in London, and that's when he basically tells him to make up his mind now, and Doyle says that he's staying with his mom, so read of course getting pissed because the housekeeper has his coat and Mitten's ready to hand over.

1:25:25 Kill me, kills me. She's just standing there already with his jacket and his gloves. So as he tells Natalie he wants her out of the house by Monday. And that's when Dutch follows Read out and he turns him around and he's like, excuse me. He goes, you know, when did you want him out? And he's like Monday. He's like, I didn't quite hear. That changes his pinky ringer out to face and that's when he grabs him by the tie, plants a punch right on his forehead right in the middle of leaves a little mark. Yeah. And now he's like Friday and he's like, oh, well, you know it's gonna take some time for her to past six months. And he's like, all right, this sounds good. And that's what he's like, and you're gonna start being more respectful and also, you know, nice to your kid. He's a good kid. He doesn't need a father playing around his mind like that. Well and and and this is the moment that I will never forget because, unlike David here, I have an unfortunate relationship with my father, true, and I have had other father figures. More so that yeah, I mostly just like to give Dave shit because.

1:26:20 I'm not from a broken family. But in all seriousness, fuck you. No. No, he doesn't just say like you're gonna be nicer. He tells him something that really moved me and I thought was incredibly insightful, especially for the early nineties. He tells him like. He's a great kid and he still loves you and I'm his friend. Yeah, but you're his father and I can't be his father. That's you. That's your job, so you need to do right by him. And that really hit me hard. It's really it's a it's a beautiful moment. So Read stumbles to his car, slips, My car comes up and he's like, I'm okay. Dutch goes back inside.

1:27:03 They all sit down to a nice Thanksgiving dinner, and that's when he tells Doyle that he needs him to go into the next room and grabs him out of his coat pocket. It's something surprised for his mother. And we all know what kind of wedding ring it might be. So then Doyle runs over and that's when he tells he tells Natalie to move aside, and that's when he brings the BB gun out, which shocks Natalie, and then Doyle turns around. They all start laughing. He lowers it, they're still laughing, and then he stops, has a grin and goes eh. And then and then right when he shoots the gun that cuts the post of credit. You hear the BB go and the casing drop. Yeah? Yeah. For some reason, every time the bbgun's shot, there's the sound of the casing of a bullet hitting the ground. Did you hear Doyle go?

1:27:43 Yep? And that's the end. That is nineteen ninety one's Dutch. Yes, it is a ride. I fucking love this movie. Would you like to know some things about the film? Not at all? Well? Too bad, damn it. What do you want to guess the budget was? It's pretty big? Yeah, like fifteen or twenty. Close seventeen million. Damn so, seventeen million dollar budget. Released his July nineteenth of nineteen. Ninety one, Interesting time choice. Takes in one million, eight hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars. Total total for the opening weekend box office total shut Up, shut Up, Shut Up box office is four million, six hundred and three dollars.

1:28:24 That's still rough. Yeah, totally, yes, yes, so there were plans to do a sequel, which never materialized. Imagine that. Yeah, John Candy was the first choice to play Dutch. Dually, Tim Allen was in consideration for the role of Dutch, along with Tom Hanks, Jim Belushi, Rob Williams, John Goodman, and Bill Murray. So who wasn't in consideration to play Dutch probably Andy Dick. Well, he was like nineteen at that point. So the film was shown briefly and Married with Children episode dial B for Virgin where main characters Alan Peg were in the video store looked briefly at a rack that showed a poster for the film with the sign over O'Neill's face that read free video. Damn. In an interview, Ed O'Neill states that during the shooting of the movie, John Hughes was calling him every day like they were best friends. Ed O'Neil was even invited to John hughes house for dinner and they were supposed to do other movies together. But as soon as the movie underperformed at the box office, John Hughes never spoke to Ed O'Neil nor director Peter Faman ever.

1:29:17 Again damn yeah, Well, and this was Unfortunately, at the end of of the Hughes cycle, being the biggest name it was. Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie. Prior to filming, director Peter Faman, writer and co producer John Hughes, and producer Richard Vaine took a road trip throughout Georgia, the Carolinas, Mississippi, and Tennessee to scout the route of the film's characters Dutch, Duley, and Doyle would take a would take to drive back home to Chicago for Thanksgiving. Faman like most of the places that he had seen during the trip, and they ended up in the final film, Wow Okay, That's really cool. Doyle uses martial arts on Dutch of the movie, although in real life that in the time of filming, Ed O'Neil had been training in Brazilian Brazilian jiu jitsu. O'Neil received the black belt from Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy in two thousand and seven.

1:30:20 Wow Okay. The surname of Doyle and his family is Standish. This name was also used in another John Hughes film, The Breakfast Club, for Marli Ringwald's character Claire Standish. Shit, I never even thought about that. Oscar winner and Grammy winning producer Quincy Jones actually attended and was part of the recording sessions for Allan Sevestri's score and even performed on the piano during a few tracks. That's really cool. I love that the film takes place in the same universe as Career Opportunities from nineteen ninety one, Curly Sue in ninety one, and Home Alone in nineteen ninety all written by John Hughes. Did Hughes confirm that that's an IMDb for you? Baby? That doesn't I don't. I'm like what. At one point, writer and director producer John Hughes considered directing the film, but then reconsidered because of the film's similarities to his other hit film, Planes, Trains and Automobiles, which revolved around two characters who at first really didn't like each other, had go on a road trip to get back to Chicago after having a bunch of setbacks, which included a destroyed burnt carr being robbed for Thanksgiving, with a happy resolution. In essence, the film is a sequel or remix to that film, minus the Trains and Planes.

1:31:18 To an extent, it is Ye. The film or This was the first and only film that director Peter Faman ever directed in the US. He had directed Crocodile Dundee in nineteen eighty six, in which part the film took place in New York City, but the majority of the film was filmed in Australia. Natalie and Doyle Standish might have been relationed to Claire from the Breakfast Club since their family is prominent, wealthy family in Chicago, which makes sense that Doyle would be attending a boys' prep school away from home where Dutch picks him up from. But IMDb didn't say that was the same cinematic universe. This was the second film Ed O'Neil had worked at twentieth Century Fox that he was under contract for the Adventures of Ford fair Lane, which was delayed from its original nineteen eighty nine release date and released before this film went into production in the late nineteen ninety He of course, would later go on to star in the hit Fox sitcom Modern Family in two thousand and nine, which was about twenty years from his first time working for the studio.

1:32:07 Wow. The title of the movie in Australia was driving Me Crazy and not Dutch. I mean, driving Me Crazy is kind of a better title a little bit, but yeah, yeah, because everyone's go who the fuck is Dutch? What is Dutch? The film's road trip starts in Georgia, where Dutch picks up Doyle at his boarding school and goes through Alabama and Tennessee and eventually back to Chicago for Thanksgiving. This is somewhat similar to John Hughes Plane Trains and Automobiles that starts out in New York, in which Steve Martin's plane is diverted to Kansas City and eventually has to take a bus and a train and a burnt out rental car passing Missouri and other states to Chicago for Thanksgiving. Yeah. I mean, there are obviously similarities to planes, trains, and automobiles. I don't think it's a secretor or anything.

1:32:48 The film has a similar ending to Home Alone, also written by John Hughes, in which that film, Kevin has given his mother an angry look at first and then smiles and runs to his mother after returning home to Chicago just for him. And this film, Dutch brings Doyle back home to a mother Natalie, and instead of hugging his father, he runs to her and gives her a hug and kiss, before he has learned that his father has lied to him about going on a trip to Europe instead. I think this, I mean home Alone, is a much less messy story. Yeah. The whole having to realize your father doesn't care much for you and stuff is a lot heavier than most of the elements of Farding Room. So what are your final thoughts on nineteen ninety one's Dutch. I love this movie, I really do. I get why people can, you know, crap on it. I get why they might not have enjoyed it when it first came out, But I think it has a lot a lot to say that I think is really good.

1:33:36 Yeah. So I alluded to when I was a kid, especially when I was very young, like younger than ten eleven years old. Yeah, in particular, I was a very humorless child. I had a horrible anxiety. I worried about things all the time. I acted like a little adult. I may not have been quite as harsh as Doyle, but like I had a hard time being a kid. I always did, and I mean, and I used to drive my stepfather insane with how humorless I was. He just did not understand how a child could be such a stick in the mud. I don't know why I was such a stick in the I mean, I really don't.

1:34:21 I mean, like I just was. I had you know, I had problems, I guess. Yeah. And we did take a twelve hour drive to New Hampshire to go see my father, who kind of sucks. And he would never be mean about my dad. He was always very cool about him. But I remember on that drive how hard he tried to get me to be amused, how hard he tried to get me to be care free, and as a kid, I didn't appreciate it. Now, as a grown ass man, I am very grateful he was around because while he didn't entirely succeed in making me a more fun to be around child, yeah, I think that he succeeded in making me a Oh I'm sorry, I'm boring, you know.

1:35:11 No, it's okay that it's that you're bored. It's all right. I but no, I really. I really appreciated that he made me a better adult. I feel like he made me a much more humorful adult. So with that being said, that's my tie to the film. It's one of the things that has made me realize why I love. It so much. I love when I see that kid just scowl while the adult is laughing and having a good time. I literally think about being a child. Yeah, which you know, for better or worse, I didn't enjoy being a kid very much. Yeah, to be frank, So it's funny. I have so many friends are like God to be you know thirteen Again'm like that sucks, Like, why didn't you like it?

1:35:54 Fucking I just I there was a lot of bullying that in that era. And you were just and it was tiring to bully all those ships. He shut the hell up. My final thoughts on It's it's for me. This is a by it, and it's a by it for multiple reasons. One, I think a lot of the lesser known Hughes films are big time diamonds in the rough. Because we just revisited Curly Sue recently. She's having a baby, is kind of having a resurgence the last couple of years, which I won. I'm happy to see. Well that wasn't a later, but it was a less. Less appreciation for sure. But yeah, I think I think this is one in the John Hughes repertoire that is just perfect for one one, perfect for Thanksgiving and perfect for the family, but also just has a lot of great moments in it that only come from his style of writing that you can't you can't get that mix of that humor and that heart in the way that Hughes does. He just does it in a way that is so his formula.

1:36:48 And if you're doing a Thanksgiving movie night, by the way, fucked up to read it his by it when it's almost impossible. Tough shit. No, but but h. I found it to be a great palette cleanser after watching Planes Trains, which has such a heavy, sweet but sad ending. Yeah. I think pairing Dutch as the last movie if you're watching a couple of Thanksgiving movies is a really wise move because you end with a really happy feeling. Yeah, really good taste in your mouth. No. Absolutely, And I think it's also one of those movies where you get to see that Ed O'Neil, because I think a lot of people know him strictly for his comedy for Mother Without a Doubt with children. Yeah, he has some really serious moments in this that are really good. No, he does a great job. So I think it's really cool to see him perform in that level. So yeah, it's a buy it for me, absolutely, But yeahs en re case it. It is a little tough too, buy it right, it's a by it for me too.

1:37:36 But you didn't let me cut me off and started talking. Well, then fine, you can fit finish. I it's a by it for me. Kids, let's talk more about turkey. No, let's not. Oh oh oh, not such a not such a tough not such a swinging dick, now is he. We always like to end the show with a couple of recommendations as well, and I have two this week. The first one keeping in the Thanksgiving theme. Nineteen ninety five's Home for the Holidays, after losing her job, out with her soon to be former boss and finding out that her daughter plans to spend Thanksgiving o their boyfriend Claudia Larson Face is spending a holiday with her family. This is a really fun and I would say dramedy that is that is perfect. Oh it's a dramedy and that is as dramedy as it gets. Humble. The holiday is really good. One phenomenal movie and the other one I'm gonna give is two thousand and six is stick it? This is one You probably haven't seen this one, I have you heard of it? So, after running with the Law, Hailey is forced to return to the world from which she fled years ago. Enrolled in an elite gymnastics program run by legendary Bert Vickerman, Haley's rebellious attitude slowly gives way to team spirit. It's basically a coach and his former athlete kind of going at it. And he doesn't know why she became such a hard ass. And there's a very big reason too well.

1:38:41 Priably because they were sleeping together. No, you said they're going at. It, going at it? Not that way? Oh well, geez well my recommend My recommendation is strictly thematic because I have human feelings Onike David okay, so h no. But uh, if I had to pick a movie that I really think is a great movie to go with this, it would be Missus Doubtfire from What ninety seven, directed by Chris Columbus, who did Home Alone. Written by Chris Columbus as well. I believe wow that early nineteen eighty three. I did not think it was that soon, But I love Missus Doubtfire, and I think that it was a great film for kids who grew up in broken homes. I remember when I watched it as a kid, feeling less, like my situation was so sad.

1:39:32 When the end of the movie isn't the parents falling in love again, it's just them learning to be friends and be there for their kids. Because that was my reality. And when I grew up where I grew. Up in the first half of my childhood, it was normal, Like my life was kind of normal. But when I when we got out of the rough part of town started living in a nicer part of town, there were a lot of kids that were just like, your dad doesn't live with you, and I kind of have to be like, yeah, I this is just my life. And that was kind of a thing. You know, even more fun when your dad goes to prison. I bet, but that was a blast.

1:40:14 C minus shipping was late anyway, that's my eBay rating. But no, I think Missus Doubtfire is a really great companion piece. Although very different movies, I feel like they have a lot of really good things to say well, and. To piggyback off of your Missus Doubt Fire, you know, you. Come up with your own goddamn thing. If you have not seen any of the recently discovered in the last decade, I want to say, deleted scenes of like them going to the school program and whatnot. There's a bunch of deleted scenes that have been fired. I haven't seen those. They haven't been released in regards on disc. You can find them online. Shoot, oh yeah, I'm gonna check that. That was like twenty five or thirty minutes of deleted scene. Wow. Yeah, I had no idea. Yeah, a lot of a lot of great stuff. So if you haven't seen those yet, highly highly recommend checking those out because it adds a lot to the movie.

1:40:57 I mean, it'd be weird if it took things away, it would, wouldn't it. Yeah, See, the additional twenty five minutes actually makes the movie shorter. Would you like to know what we are talking about next week on the show? Well, only if, and this is a big if, Okay, only if the film we're doing next week happens to be our buddy Maurice's pick for one of the best Thanksgiving movies ever. It is indeed one of the best Thanksgiving movies ever that has probably not been seen by a lot of people, especially those listening this one. You need to watch it. Did you happen to prepare how to watch it? So people can? With your eyes? I believe is the best way too. With your eyes. Ah. This is Dave's way of saying, fuck you for noticing I didn't do research. It's I know. It's like streaming everywhere. Would you shut up? I'm just trying to help.

1:41:38 Okay, So you can find What's Cooking from two thousand on fuh my god. Yeah, it's everywhere. You can find it on freeb. You can find it on two B, you can find it on Prime. It is on the Roku channel. So What's Cooking? From two thousand and one hour and forty nine minutes. Four families in LA of a different ethnicity Latino Asian, African Jewish gather to the other for Thanksgiving dinner. It is one of our best discoveries ever for a Thanksgiving marathon. Yeah, I could not believe how good it is. It is mostly comedy with a little bit of drama. Yeah. And like Dave said, it's available on Stars as well, Amazon Prime to stream for free. You can rent it on a ton of services as well. It's it's pretty readily available. It looks like it was no longer on two B unfortunately, oh to go to Okay, I mean according to Google, I'm not looking too closely, but you can find What's Cooking it's from two thousand.

1:42:28 I love this movie. It's absolutely one of my favorite finds that we've had in the Thanksgiving realm, and I look forward to watching it every single year. And thanks to Dave's picks, it feels really weird watching these movies so far away from things. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know that you won't want to talk about the movies that we love so much that we have to unfortunately talk about them on the show and watch them out of that. That was never the point of the show, too late. The point of the show was to make sure I give people a proper life advice they need, like doing whippets, but only from whipped cream canisters. So we'll be talking about What's Cooking from two thousand on next week's show, and that is your homework assignment too, Because yes, in order for us to talk about this movie and for you to enjoy that conversation, you really have to watch it. Yeah. I cannot recommend enough you watch What's Cooking, just find it on any of your favorite streaming services. I guarantee it's there. I also want to mention if you want to email us, we don't have emails today. I guess nobody loves Dave. Nope, you can email us at do you even movie pod at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you. You can also go to dooevenmovie dot com for all the information about our show.

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