Don't Open Till Christmas (1984)

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Present from the people who brought you
Friday at thirteenth. Now come, don't

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open. Oh, President homicidal maniac
is loose at Christmas. His target is

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Santa Claus. No one dressed as
Santa Claus is safe. His death toys

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are a spear, a gun as
a chaser, a dagger, or a

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garatte execution by any means. Don't
open till Christmas. Don't open till Christmas

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with special guest star Carolyn Monroe.
Un till Christmas. Don't open till Christmas.

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If you do, you may not
see in the new year. In

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a world where podcasts reign supreme,
two Friends dare to ask, do you

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even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker
Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de Noyer.

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Spoiler alert, Hey, my friends, and I suppose happy holidays everybody,

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honest time for the December months.
Yes, here at do you even?

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Movie? And if you're not listening
to them around that holiday season,

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then you're a hateful person and we
don't stand by you whatsoever. I am

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your host, Enrique Kuto here with
my good buddy and co host David de

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Noie esquireson's greetings. That's not words
and happy holidays once again? Oh look

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stealing my lines? Lines? All
right, Well, we have quite quite

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a gift for you here tonight,
as we are going to be talking about

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one of the most batshit crazy holiday
films that probably has ever been made.

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Yeah. I don't know if I
can think of another holiday film that's as

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nuts. There might be this one. There might be a few, but

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I don't think any have the notoriety
and the tie to our friendship as much

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as this has notoriety. I mean, Joe Bob showed it last year.

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That what Joe Bob showed it last
year? On the Christmas He's shows like

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one hundred and twenty movies or something
already. I just feel like this since

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since the release of this on Blue
ray, I feel like it's getting a

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little bit of a bigger audio.
I don't know what, what do you

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want me to say that no one
knows that. I'm just saying. I

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don't know if no variety is the
right statement for it. I feel like

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this is an infamous little ditty.
Yeah. So in the world of Christmas

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horror, and that's where we're going
tonight. We're heading into Christmas horror in

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the world of Christmas horror. You
have your obvious stuff like your Silent Night,

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Deadly Night. But then if you
dive in to the more the less

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mainstream movies, the ones that you
would see late at night on cable or

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on a weird, questionable streaming app, that's when you get into stuff like

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you get your Silent Night, Bloody
Nights, and you get your Don't Open

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Until Christmas is who for all intensive
purposes. Don't Op Until Christmas is public

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domain as far as we could tell. Yeah, because it's available everywhere.

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I mean, anywhere you watch movies
is probably going to have some iteration.

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But this new Blu ray looks amazing, incredible. So that's one of the

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reasons we've been re enjoying it,
is that we've been able to actually see

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the detail, to see the magic
that is magic. He says. This

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film is something Okay, that is
we're gonna dive into. Don't Open Until

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Christmas. Also, this is one
of those foreign production movies where you're just

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watching it. As you're watching it, you're like, Okay, how did

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we get here? Yeah, but
that's actually kind of one of the big

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charming elements of Don't Open Until Christmas. The first time I saw Don't Open

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Until Christmas was on a fifty pack
of movies that I bought it like best

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buy, and I saw that title
Christmas, so I put that on and

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there you have it. So what
about you double show? So do you

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remember? I think it was back
in the tail end of December for twenty

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thirteen, probably, if not twenty
twelve, when Anchor Bay finally re released

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Silent at Deadly Night double pack of
one and two together, of course coincide

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with the release of Silent Night the
remake at the time. That was when

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I kind of went into a Christmas
tail spin, and I was I was

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a manager at the store I worked
at at the time, which was a

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media store, and I had access
to special orders because of that. So

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I just kind of went down a
barrage list of Christmas horror that I hadn't

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seen and don't know, a barrage
list. Yes, that's not a thing

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I don't know. Just don't you
listen to me? All right? Never,

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So I went down, I went
down a rabbit hole at Christmas titles,

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and one of the one of the
peak ones was Don't Up Until Christmas

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because it had been released on Blu
ray Or on DVD by Monda Micabro for

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at least like five maybe a little
longer than that, years before something like

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that. Yeah, And as to
my knowledge, I was under the impression

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it was out of print. And
this was kind of before I really had

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insight into Amazon and being able to
like really dive deep into what was out

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of print and what was just harder
to find, I guess is the best

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way to put so special orders went
onto it. There was the Mondo Micabre

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release of Don't U until Christmas,
so it was on back order. So

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I just would hit order on those
because you know, either they came in

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or they didn't. And one year
it came in and I watched it,

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and I remember I was leaving my
uncle's house at the time, and he

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came down right at the ending and
he's like, is this don't open until

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Christmas? And I was like,
there's a reason I live with you.

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But it was just one of those
movies that I immediately latched onto because I'm

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a huge slasher fan. You know
this, and we've watched many a slasher

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films on your screen, and I
just I'm such a sucker for Christmas horror

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and there's so much more bad than
there is good that it's kind of nice

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to get one right now, Christmas
horror. There's more bad than there is

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good. This is news to me, everybody, literally all my memories today.

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It popped up that like six or
seven years ago, you and I

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today were watching Mother Crampis and Red
Christmas. Wow. Yeah, that was

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quite a double feature. That was
quite a double feature. Indeed. Yeah,

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yeah, it's no don't open until
Christmas. No, no it's not.

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But so don't up until Christmas.
This was made in nineteen eighty four,

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or it was released in nineteen eighty
four. Yeah, we're gonna get

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into some of the interesting elements of
it, of its production and distribution.

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But why don't you run down the
pertinent deep? All right, so we're

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talking about Don't until Christmas, the
release date of nineteen eighty four, eighty

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six minute runtime with an R rating
and a hard R rating at that too.

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The director, it'd say hard R
does not say. But no,

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this film is interesting because you're gonna
hear me say this now. This film

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technically has three directors. But our
first director is Edmund Purdam, And if

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you might know that name, it's
either because you're either a Pieces fan or

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one of want favorites from Jodamato Absurd. The man was a huge he was

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famous before that. Huge. Yeah, I know, but our audience,

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our audience particular, maybe yeah,
but no, I mean he was a

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huge Hollywood actor Julius Caesar in nineteen
fifty three Diary of Ann Frank and fifty

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nine, It Takes a Thief in
sixty nine, The Fifth Cord in seventy

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one, Beyond the Door in seventy
four, Absurd in eighty one, Invaders

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of the Lost Gold, and Pieces
in nineteen eighty two Invaders the Law School,

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the only film where I was promised
cannibals and did not get any cannibals.

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So Severin put out Invaders the Lost
Gold about a year ago with a

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it was a combo release. Was
it Joe Demano or who is it that

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did Strike Strike Commando? Strike Commando? That sounds like Demodol, Yeah,

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Demtto, I think did Strike Commando
and Strike Commando two. And they coincided

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that release with Invaders of Lost Gold, which was a basic loose remake of

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the Treasure of Sierra Madre that was
done in the Philippines and you had Edmund

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Purdam in it, and it was
directed by the second director on this,

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which is Alan Berkshaw. But anyway, the reason Enrique brings that up is

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because for some reason when I when
I got that title, I decided that

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there were cannibals in it something I
have read that. It was not on

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the box cover or anything. No, it was just somehow it got into

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David's mind. It was probably just
because of the fact that there are tribal

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warriors in it in the opening,
and I just kind of linked those two

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together because Joe Tomato did those cannibal
films as well. Quite the realist,

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isn't he. Perdam also did twenty
nineteen and after the Fall of New York

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He was in Titanic The Legend Goes
On in two thousand, that cartoon with

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the Titanic that John tru And the
writer on this film and second director is

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Derek Ford. He was the director
and writer on a film called Swappers in

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nineteen seventy, Keep It Up Jack
in seventy four, Diversions in seventy six,

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and then back to Alan Berkshaw.
He is our final and third director

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and writer on the film. He
did Killer's Moon in nineteen seventy eight,

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Invaders the Last Gold in eighty two, Don't Have until Christmas in eighty four.

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He was the director of the House
of Usher in eighty nine, that

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the one that you and Morgan watched
in South Africa. Yeah. Ok.

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And he also did quite a film, yeah, Mask of the Red Death

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in eighty nine as well. So
he did both of both of those.

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Those are actually not bad. One
of them, which one that frank stallone

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I think of that mask? Yeah, mask. And then finally, the

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name that we're going to talk in
regards to production is our producer, Dick

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Randall. And Dick Randall, boy
was he Randall? Dick Randall is the

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epitome of of an old Hollywood type. He is featured on the disc in

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a making of segment called making a
Horror Film that I'll talk a little bit

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more towards the end. But he
was a big Hollywood type, big producer.

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He director, produced such films,
directed and produced such films as Frankenstein's

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Castle Freaks in nineteen seventy four,
The Girl in Room two A and seventy

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four, as well The Real Bruce
Lee in seventy seven, which did not

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feature the real person, not whatsoever. Escape from Women's Prison in seventy eight,

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The Clones of Bruce Lee in nineteen
eighty. That one also did not

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feature any semblance of a real Bruce
lay Pieces in eighty two, and vad

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Is the Lost Gold in eighty two, and one of my personal favorites Slutter

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High and nineteen eighty six, Baby, don't worry, future episode. I'll

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make sure that happens that will not
be happening. But anyway. Randall is

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credited for bringing kung fu movies to
the West. He was a big time

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producer. He produced over sixty films
in his lifetime. And everybody has nothing

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but nice things to say about him. Not me. I have a lot

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of bad things to say about that, let me tell y'all. But no,

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a lot of interesting characters behind the
film, but the film itself so

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Enrique. Here is the synopsis on
the back of the Vinegar Syndrome blu Ray.

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It says, it is just days
before Christmas in London, but not

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everyone is full of good cheer.
As a maniac with a pathological hatred of

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Santa Claus stalks the streets butchering any
man that's unlikely enough to be wandering around

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dressed as old say. That's what
it says. Unlucky enough. Nope,

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you're right. Not restricting himself to
any one method of murder, this twisted

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killer dishes out stabbings, gunshots,
a castration, and even burns the face

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of one poor Sanna on his own
roasting chestnuts. As the bodies of slaughtered

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father Christmas pile up, Chief Inspector
Harris finds himself under increasing pressure to crack

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the case before the holiday is canceled
for good. My synopsis, the serial

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killer is killing Santa Claus is in
London and Christmas time. I mean,

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I feel like you could have done
it in less words, somehow you've been

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like, uh, Santa Death.
And before before we get really into this

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movie, you can, as we
do, have to spoil basically everything about

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this movie in order to talk about
it. Spoil everything. That's the whole

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point of the show exactly, So
spoiler alert there. So this movie is

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currently available on streaming. In particular, you can find it on Shutter,

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but also you can get a DVD
or Blu ray available on Amazon pretty readily

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available, and you can check your
multi horror packs if you have those,

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because Lesa Enriquez said, this is
public domain, so it is featured in

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a lot of those sets as well. So this movie, I mean,

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where where do we start, Well, we could start at the beginning.

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We'll start the beginning, all right, So let's talk about our casting.

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So we already mentioned per Dom.
He is. He's just a namesake in

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regards of old Hollywood, and he
did a lot of horror films. Toward

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the tail of his career, he
was kind of chased out of Hollywood because

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he unfortunately had an affair with a
big Hollywood producer. He felt it was

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unfortunately. I don't think he was
upset about it. I think I do

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not think so. But this film
had a lot of troubled production with per

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Dom in my and that starts with
him taking over the He started the production

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in nineteen eighty two. And if
you watch the Making of a Horror Movie,

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which is like a fifty two minute
little extra on the Vincent disc that

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was also on the Macabre disc as
well, you can kind of see and

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they even Berkshaw even says it in
his interview on the disc as well.

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Perdam was really well rounded in regards
to his Hollywood knowledge and just being able

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to do stuff behind the camera as
well as in front of But by this

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point in his career he had kind
of gotten a little bit of a god

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complex. Well he had been kind
of expelled from Hollywood. Yeah, and

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now he was a big fish in
a very small pond. Again, of

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course he had family in Europe,
I believe is why he wound up out

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that way. That's correct. Was
Pieces the first one they roped him into.

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I believe so, because Pieces wasn't
eighty two, so that would have

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been following this, so it would
have been the no, well no Pieces,

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Pieces was eighty two. Don't until
Christmas is eighty four tech, oh

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please, So he finishes Pieces,
but before that is Absurd in eighty one,

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and then Invaders the Lost Gold in
eighty two. So Pieces in Invaders

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law School, it starts the saying
your production as don't open til Christmas as

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well. So it wasn't uncommon for
these international productions to snap up a name

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talent because they needed every edge they
could get. So hearing a guy like

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him, even if as you're listening
to this you're thinking, I don't know

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who Edmund Pardome is, the fact
that anybody knew who he was was a

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huge victory for these small overseas productions. Absolutely, so it makes sense that

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they'd snap him up and they'd cast
him in a bunch of stuff. They'd

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pay him as much as they could
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it was very common to make a
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try to sell it as an American
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not only in America but everywhere else. Everybody wanted American movies because the understanding

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was that's where you go to get
great films, you go to America.

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So they work with Edmond Perdome multiple
times and now as don't open until Christmas

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is coming along, they're dangling the
carrot in his face of hey, you

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can be the director. Yeah,
And that is not an uncommon carrot to

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dangle in front of an actor,
especially one that you can't afford to pay

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a lot of money too. You
give, and also directors tend to get

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a bigger piece of profit sharing,
if there is any. They tend to

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be more respected. So in a
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play. I would totally agree because
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they talked to Birkinshaw on the disc. He does mention that while he was

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bring one of the main actors,
Blenda Maine, onto it, and he

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did have some insight into what was
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that in regards to Dick Randall's office, it was not uncommon for per Doom

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to go down there a lot and
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originally it was to be the lead
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like I said, the god complex, He's like, well, if I'm

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gonna to be the actor, I
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you know, a couple back and
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a star and you're solidifying a director. Yeah. Now, had he directed

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anything before this? Do you know
only directorial? Is this okay? So?

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he possibly mess this up? Yeah? Absolutely, And in a way he

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messed it up really bad. But
in a way he didn't. He just

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did what he understood. Yeah,
and I mean his his vision of the

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film. At one point in that
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that we'll talk about in a little
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in the Peep Show where they killed
the Santa per Dom even says on camera

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when they they don't get the shot
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bloody, and Randall even behind the
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we we we decided to reshoot the
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also had a new director. Yeah, and that kind of thing happens.

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Yeah, I mean I've done deep
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firsthand experience fixing movies like that.
Being hired is what they call the hatchet

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man, and it's a it's a
thankless job. This was back in the

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day when the people involved were actually
a little naive, because nowadays, when

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a movie has so many problems,
you need to hire somebody to come in

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and fix it. Yeah, you
don't credit them because when you credit another

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writer and another director in this film. I remember the opening credit said additional

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scenes by directed by That signals to
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film is troubled and that they should
assume it's going to suck. And I

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know that's being very direct about it, like assuming it's gonna suck, But

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that's the truth. I hatchet man
this one flick, and I put more

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time into that film than I think
the original director and editor did combined.

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Not I mean, I got a
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there was no way because I had, actually I had actually fight over the

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fact that they were crediting like four
writers before I even got involved. I

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was like, you got you gotta
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with just getting a story credit or
whatever. Now we're not in the Union

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so we could do stuff like that. But I was like, we got

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it. We cannot have four writers. If we have four writers, everybody's

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gonna know this movie's a mess before
they start watching it. And perception is

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everything. I cannot overstate that I've
I've literally shown short films that I directed

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to film experts, film professionals,
you know, air quote shit. I've

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showed it to film professionals and they've
been like, Wow, that was really

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great, and then when they find
out how cheaply and quickly it was done

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magically magically, it becomes far less
impressive. Perception is such a massive element

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of the film business, and people
often are in denial of that because it's

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really unromantic. It's not fun that
perception is everything. But perception is everything.

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Well, And going back to that, when the regards to having too

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many names in one spot, I
remember when you and I went to go

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see Hellfest and immediately when those six
writers popped up on screen, Oh,

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this film had trouble. Yeah.
And that doesn't mean it's going to be

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bad. It does mean it was
trouble. Yeah. And it's the same

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thing about going back with directors in
their names. The one I always think

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of is Alan Smithy in regards to
Maniac Cop three. Well, that's a

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famous name people used to take their
names off of them, but it's also

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kind of a middle finger to the
movie itself. It's like, I've always

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wondered why studios let the directors change
it to Alan smith because it's it's a

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part of the union. Yeah,
that they can do that. But it's

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like that's like me doing a project
for a producer and then being mad,

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so I changed my name to sucky
Suckerson or like this movie sucks smith you

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know, Like I feel like it's
an unfair thing to have the audience get

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a pre a preface that this movie
won't be good. It's like, you

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know, it's like uh B Productions. It's like it's like you're you're you're

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burning the bridge on your out to
make sure nobody else can enjoy it.

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was bummed by that, although in their

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defense, most of the people who
throw Alan Smithy on something, it's not

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because they're not happy with their performance. It's because they're unhappy with the way

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they were managed and the way their
film was taken from them. Yeah.

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So I'm not trying to like crap
on any filmmakers out there who were like

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I don't want to put up with
you know, my name being on whatever.

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But that's a big thing, especially
when you have low budget movies.

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Perception is such a massive element of
everything. So that's why it's like I

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always get nervous when I see like
multiple right, Like when I see The

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worst isn't when you see when you
have like three writers. It's when you

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have three teams of writers. Yeah, you have so and so, amper

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sand so and so and then another
name, and then another name, and

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the word and and another name.
That's a lot of writing teams. That's

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troublesome, indeed. Yeah. So. But now going back to the production

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of this, So, the main
story that we have in in Donut until

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Christmas is basically a police procedural where
we are following a killer that's going around

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killing Santa Clauses. And then we
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his partner Pal and they're basically trying
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and in doing so we meet our
characters who the first one that we have,

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uh is we have Belinda Mayn's character
who's Kate, and her boyfriend is

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what is his name? I want
to mention real quick, calling don't open

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until Christmas like a police procedural is
like calling is like calling Wizard of Oz,

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like a like a murder mystery.
That's fair, I mean, that's

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fair. It is one hundred percent
of police procedural. It's meant to be

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a police procedural. Yeah, it
does not turn out as well. It

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just not no, it just not
so. Yeah. We have Kate who's

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played by Belinda Maine, and we
have her boyfriend Cliff, who is played

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by Jerry Sungwist, and they are
at a Christmas party and Kate's father is

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a dressed his father Christmas and he
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you know, working with the crowd
and everything, and then all of

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a sudden, a spear comes out
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back of his head while he has
an always maker or I can't remember what

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is that what they're calling it's the
little thing goes yeah out of your mouth

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and that that kicks off essentially the
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Perdam is called onto the case with
Harris or with a Pow and they are

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trying to figure out what is going
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The body count just keeps going progressively
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Also a strong word there's almost no
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the beginning, the kills are so
stacked that it's confusing, Like there's one

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scene after a kill one scene right, and they're like, oh, we

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have to find out who killed them, and then it's just nighttime. In

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another stand is just like existing outside
and gets murdered. Yep, that is

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exactly. But that was something that
I actually found really amusing on this most

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recent watch was I was like,
it's not Pacete. Well, it's just

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it just happens really fast. It's
well, it's not paste. Well.

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The sound design is probably the worst
thing about this movie. Now, before

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we go further into this, yes, is this film good boy? No?

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Is this film great? Yes?
Oh yes, So I want to

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make that extremely abundantly clear. This
film is so much fun. It is

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absolutely worth your time for the w
t F factor that it is. I

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mean that alone. And there are
a few movies that Dave and I both

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love that are w t F factor
alone, movies like Nightmare City. In

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fact, they're mostly European. They
usually have some strong ties to Italian film

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or Spanish film or what have you. But this is the only one that's

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about Christmas one. And when we
were when we were when we were watching

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it earlier and we were talking about
that, you had mentioned like, I

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feel like I remember everything about this
movie, like almost feel like we don't

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have to watch it. I didn't
say we alway we don't have to watch

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it. I do not say that
you felt it we almost didn't, not

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that we didn't have to. We
weren't arguing. You were just sharing your

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opinion, which is off and wrong, wrong, But no, you were

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saying, like, I feel like
we almost don't need to watch this because

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we know it's so well. And
I told you something that now I think

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needs to be on the record.
I coined the term absurd What was absurdity

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fatigue as fatigue when you have a
movie that is as batshit as don't open

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until Christmas, or Nightmare City or
Hell of the Hell of the Living Dead

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or one of those films. Rats
a Terror, Rats a Night of Terror

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is another good one. I sincerely
believe that the human brain gets this thing

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that I'm calling absurdity fatigue, where
you're so overwhelmed by the absurd scene,

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absurd scene, absurd scene, absurd
scene that you remember the whole film is

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absurd, but you forget some of
them because you just can't. So you're

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like, oh, yeah, well
the music box explodes, man, it's

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crazy and it's like, but do
you remember Piccadilly Circus and the and the

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wax Museum and you're like, oh, man to London Dungeon. It's literally

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the movie is so full of insanity, yeah, that you won't remember it

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all it is. So that's my
point. That's my point is that,

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Yeah, it's that you'll sit there
and be like, well, remember when

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the guy get stabbed with the peep
show blah blah blah blah. It's like,

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what about when he falls off the
tower the tower and you're like,

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oh, yeah, that parts you
like, you're forgetting crazy thing. That's

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how insane this movie really is.
Yeah, And I mean and that and

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that goes back again to the fact
that they essentially so pro Dom's version of

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the film, Birkinshaw said, was
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and then he introduced Birkinshaw did the
character of Giles Harrison, who was played

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by Alan Lake. Alan Lake was
in Love Story in sixty four, he

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was on The Avengers in sixty eight, he was in Madigan in seventy two

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Doctor Hugh and seventy eight Heart to
Heart. This guy was a little bit

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everywhere. He is our red herring, but also not I mean a red

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herring. I mean, no,
he can't be a red herring. No,

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he's just badly hidden. I get. Yeah, I guess then produn

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the red herring. No, per
Dome is a massive red herring. Yeah.

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I think they kind of based some
of per Dome being the red herring

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on Pieces. I could definitely see
that because spoiler on that. But like,

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you know, he's the bad guy
and he's a killer in Pieces.

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Yeah, and sorry, you had
thirty fucking years to watch it forty uh,

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but like, but I think that's
why they keep like kind of hinting

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that per Dome is the killer.
Yeah, is because he's the biggest name

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in the movie. He's the guy
that everybody notices when you watch the film.

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Yeah, it's I mean and even
today, like you'll be watching a

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TV show or a movie or something
and you'll see somebody like I'm just random

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use but like you're like, hey, Edward Norton's in this. I didn't

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realize he was in this, And
then like twenty is you're like, oh,

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he's the killer. Oh he's killing
because this family. I did the

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one that was like, oh,
Jimmy Smits, Jimmy Smitz, switch Jimmy

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Smiths. But yeah, Alan Lake. He plays Giles Harrison, who is

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supposedly working for a newspaper. And
you'll notice when you watch the film that

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Giles shows up a meately and and
and like Enrique said, you're like,

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oh, well there's the killer,
Like there there is no hig. It

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doesn't help that he looks batshit insane
from the moment you see him. You're

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waiting for him to ask about fava
beans and a fine fiancee. No,

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I mean, he seriously shows me. He's like, hello, Yes,

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I'm Giles. I work for the
news, for the newspaper murders. I

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don't know anything. Hm, why
didn't it be nice to solve these murders?

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I mean, so we have Giles
Harrison introduced, and right off the

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bat you can just tell he is
and in doing so, with that,

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Birkenshaw's creation of him into the story
makes it to that all his scenes completely

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put him, usually not with another
character. If it's only for the one

405
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.920
police investigator, he really doesn't interact
with anybody else except for the chick at

406
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.480
the peep show. Yeah, he
he is. He interacts with the chick

407
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.799
at the peep show, he interacts
with the cops. Yeah, but never

408
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.319
never predome obviously never predom well,
and they make it, but they make

409
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.960
a reason for that, so it
does. It's not a cheap thing.

410
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.839
The reason he never interacts with per
Dome. So yeah, he's just kind

411
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.680
of in the periphery. But honestly, it works. As much as it

412
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:15.000
doesn't work as a mystery, it
does work as a storytelling purpose because he

413
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:19.880
doesn't need to be around all the
time. He's sprinkled throughout. And I

414
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:23.799
think, honestly, what goes into
the fact that I love this movie so

415
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:30.000
much, besides from its batshitness is
it is it's one hundred percent of Christmas

416
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.119
slasher film. We're in London at
Christmas time. We see Christmas decoration,

417
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:38.480
well, we see weird, not
quite right English decorations. The how I

418
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:45.000
love Christmas. I love all of
its iterations England. It's it's they're just

419
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.200
enough not like us that it's weird. Like you'll look at the Christmas outfits

420
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.839
and they'll have a hood and you're
like, ah, Sanna has a hood,

421
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.160
or they'll be like you know,
have some sherry it's Christmas. You're

422
00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.279
like, what the fuck is sherry? You know? Or or they'll be

423
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:02.559
uh, they'll where they wear paper
hats on Christmas and I'm like, that's

424
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:04.680
a New Year's thing. Why are
they doing that. I remember the first

425
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:10.440
time I noticed English Christmas is weird
was in the first Tales from the Crypto

426
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.720
Amicist movie Yeah, from like nineteen
seventy something seventy two. Yeah, because

427
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:19.559
that one and all through the house
there's this whole part where they're sitting there

428
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.640
with their little cups of sherry and
they have their paper hats on, and

429
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.359
I'm like, what is going on
here? Like I don't understand. This

430
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:32.359
isn't right but no, but it's
it's super Christmas. Yeah, there's tons

431
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:36.880
of decor. Obviously, there's a
lot of people dressed like Santa Claus aka

432
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:44.759
the cannon Fodder. Yes, because
what it really comes down to is this

433
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.319
is a film about a man killing
people dressed like Santa Claus. Yeah,

434
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.599
and more importantly the fact that,
for whatever reason, in all of London

435
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:57.200
no one ever got the memo because
people are just friggin stopping around the streets

436
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:02.079
of the UK in their Santa Claus
go ahead like called out here, isn't

437
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:06.599
it? On Father Christmas? I
fall the Christmas? And then and then

438
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:10.559
they're like what they get murdered?
Yeah and uh. And going into that,

439
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:14.000
we have one beautiful segment that I
do want to discuss because you may

440
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.480
think, like, oh, the
fact he's targeting men, well that's sexist.

441
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.759
Don't worry. There is. At
one point, we do have a

442
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.599
scare where a woman who is dressed
in just a Santa robe is outside and

443
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.519
the killer finds her, threatens her
with the straight razor and runs away.

444
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:26.960
That's not true. She's also wearing
a pair of black pants, pair of

445
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.759
black plan's excuse me, stop lying
to our audience. But no, So

446
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:37.720
Kate and Jerry or not Jerry.
Kate and Cliff are out like out because

447
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.200
Cliff is a flute player for panhandling, so he's just like getting money in

448
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.319
the square sometimes and they're out.
Yeah, and they're out playing one day

449
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.640
and his old buddy Jerry comes up, who's a photographer, and he decides

450
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.519
that he wants to offer them the
chance to have a photo shoot for Christmas

451
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:55.240
because his two other models canceled.
So to keep in mind, on this

452
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:59.240
Kate's father has just been murdered,
like what two days ago in that in

453
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:03.839
front of her and everyone, So
any site of a Santa anything is just

454
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.480
triggering to her. So they get
to Jerry's photo shoot, which is in

455
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.200
his apartment and he's dealing with this
one chick and he pulls out this Christmas

456
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.200
robe and of course it upsets her
and she runs off. So then Cliff

457
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.720
is with this chick and they decide
that they're gonna do some shots and it

458
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.079
gets to the point where they have
to go outside. They end up getting

459
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.359
locked out. Cliff runs off,
leaving her, and then that's when the

460
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.519
killer runs up. But the reason
he runs off is because there's two cops

461
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:32.640
that are walking the streets and he
has his arms around the chick and he's

462
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.319
like, he's like, oh,
she's hitting on him. Yeah, And

463
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.440
he sees this. He sees the
cops and notices her in the Santa robe

464
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.799
and you can't really tell that she's
a one from the back, so he

465
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:42.640
gets panicked that he thinks that they're
they're gonna be a couple of gazes,

466
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.839
he said, and he's like,
they're gonna think we're a couple of gaze

467
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.839
and runs off, leaving her well, then she's just naked in the Santa

468
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.240
robe in black panties, so she
runs off down the street to try and

469
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.519
hide from the cops and in doing
so runs into the killer. Nothing happens,

470
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.799
and she ends up going home and
is almost arrested for or is rested

471
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.680
for a decent exposure, but he
gets to go home, and then that's

472
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.279
when Dome goes to see her the
next day, and we have one of

473
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:06.640
my all time favorite lines, which
is per Dome walks in the apartment and

474
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:07.640
he's like, you know, you
you should have been more careful. It

475
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.279
was only the circumstance that you got
here, you arrested for indecent exposure,

476
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.000
and she goes, indecent, I'm
a professional, and it just shows her.

477
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:20.920
Yeah, so uh no, no, And that's and that's a good

478
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:27.880
example of how completely batshit yeah this
movie is, is that you could forget

479
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.400
that there's a whole scene with a
nude model under a Santa robe that that

480
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:36.160
gets basically threatened with a straight razor
yeah, in the first fifteen minutes,

481
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.720
but then gets released. Yeah,
and uh, the whole uh indecent,

482
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:47.519
I'm a professional it's like, no
one's trying. That's all I got.

483
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.200
No one's trying to make the sleeves
make sense. Before that too, Perdome

484
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.720
and and uh and Poal also go
to her apartment and again like this is

485
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.279
the day after her dad's been murdered, and she has the line of my

486
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:02.880
father's just been murdered. I can't
concentrate. There are so many one liners

487
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:08.119
that are just so great. So
from there we get into the Santa Kills,

488
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.279
and I mean, just to run
down the list we've got, like

489
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:14.359
I said, a spear through the
head in one of them, one shot

490
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.519
is a guy that's dressed in a
Santa suit, smoking a cigarette, roasting

491
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:21.759
some chestnuts. And then lo and
behold gets he has he has a chestnut

492
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.440
cart, so he's roasting chestnuts to
sell on the street, dressed as Santa.

493
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:29.440
And it's only been three days of
Santa Claus is being murdered. So

494
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.559
got you gotta make a living.
It's Christmas to make a lot of reference

495
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.440
to people putting themselves at risk because
they want to go back to work.

496
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.440
Yes, so I don't know if
they were I don't know if that's bad

497
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.480
riding or if they were trying to
say something about the economics of London.

498
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.680
Yeah, but uh, but a
lot of people are like, well,

499
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:45.599
there's a murderer and they're gonna want
to kill you. And it's like,

500
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:50.480
well, I could go back to
work though, right, and all the

501
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.160
jobs are public facing jobs. Yes, It's not like I want to go

502
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.279
back towards my office. It's like
I'm gonna go back to work working at

503
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.920
like the Peep Show on the corner
and ninety at night too for the most

504
00:33:57.920 --> 00:33:59.759
part, like a lot, like
I think most of the murders are at

505
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:01.759
night, so well, day and
knight are just at will in this movie.

506
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:06.920
Basically it is just night when it
needs to be seriod. So he's

507
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:09.480
selling his chestnuts. The guy walks
up and I think he stabs him once

508
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:13.960
and then puts his head onto the
chestnut cart. So yes, his skin

509
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.800
just completely starts melting away, and
then the whole corpse just catches fire.

510
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:21.519
Well, he pulls his face off
and he's covered in burns and then he

511
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:23.960
just flops the body onto the cart
and it just bursts into flames. Yea.

512
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:28.440
And going back to the production of
this movie, that poor bastard that

513
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:31.239
had his face decked out with the
black makeup for the Chestnut Murder. He

514
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:36.239
had to take that off for like
three days. They had to scrub his

515
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:37.960
face to get that all it took. It took days and days to get

516
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.199
the makeup off. For like a
twenty second wondering what the hell they used

517
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.639
to fix it, I mean they
had. They show it. They show

518
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.199
the whole process in that making of
a horror movie. And Dick Randall even

519
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:52.079
says that his agent called him pissed. I mean, the irony is that,

520
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.880
as you described to me some of
the the trivia of this film,

521
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.320
that that Santa had an agent,
but later one of the Santa was just

522
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:05.400
a drunken a bar apparently. Yeah, so we have one Santa that's just

523
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.920
stumbling down the street drunk, and
then all of a sudden he ends up

524
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.360
walking up to the killer who just
puts the gun barrel in his mouth and

525
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:13.760
then blows his brains, shoots his
frigging brains out. So, if you're

526
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:15.519
not keeping tracked by this point,
that's five deaths in under like the first

527
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.880
twenty minutes of this movie. And
some of the deaths have like a build

528
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.920
up in suspense, and then others
are just I'm a Santa Claus gun in

529
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.559
your mouth, bang, brains are
all over the place, like it really

530
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:31.000
is, Bonker, It really really
is, and there really is. There's

531
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:36.960
a lot of moments in the movie
where I can tell that someone simply wanted

532
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.000
the film done. Oh yeah,
because oh yeah. There are multiple kill

533
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:43.800
scenes where the sound effects just aren't
just start there, like when the guy

534
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.960
catches on fire on top of the
chestnut thing, there's no fire sound at

535
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:51.239
all, there's no like anything.
To my knowledge, per Dom shot the

536
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.480
chestnut roasting, because they show him
on the making of that. He shot

537
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:58.719
the Santa that gets killed with the
gun, and the I believe the spear

538
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.880
was also him too, So there
could be those pickups that Berkshaw did,

539
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:05.559
But from my understanding, Berkshaw mainly
put Giles into it as much as he

540
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.760
could for the story and also flushed
out a little bit more of there's a

541
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:13.440
romantic story in this with Kate and
per Dom that's kind of more towards the

542
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.639
end, and then just kind of
gets sighted and absolutely forced in every way.

543
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.559
Yeah. I mean not just not
just because the actors are clearly I

544
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.320
have no chemistry, but I mean, like, for story wise. Yeah,

545
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.239
it's just like and they're into each
other. Why not, I don't

546
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:28.400
know, they've seen each other twice, right, Yeah, So following the

547
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.760
gunshot, we go then to a
peep show where we meet our essential final

548
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:37.840
girl who is Her name is Sharon, but she's she's credited as experienced girl

549
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:42.199
on IMDb. That checks out,
and her only other her only other resume

550
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.280
was slaughter high mind you two.
Uh, I'm gonna get it on the

551
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:50.960
show this day someday. Don't worry, don't you worry. But anyway,

552
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:52.679
so she works at a peep show. Her name's Kelly Baker and she's Sharon

553
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.320
in the film. She's working at
a peep show and one of the Santa's

554
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.320
ends up stumbling down the stairs to
the peep show and she starts talking to

555
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:00.880
him, and then that's when the
killer comes out and hits him in the

556
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.719
neck and kills him and the blood
sprays onto the glass. She runs off,

557
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:07.199
and now she's the witness that we're
going to follow essentially the rest of

558
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:10.239
the movie. Yeah, yeah,
Well, which is like maybe thirty minutes

559
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:15.320
thirty minutes, yeah, While cutting
back and forth between per Dome being weird,

560
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.599
yes, and Giles being weird weirder. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

561
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.079
I actually that was one of the
things I was mentioning when we were watching

562
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:30.760
it too. I sincerely want to
know when did the filmmaker. When did

563
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:36.239
the filmmaker think that the audience figured
out Giles was the killer? Because it

564
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.880
feels like they thought we didn't know
until the creepy scene where they just show

565
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:45.000
him kill a girl. Yeah,
but we knew like the moment he says

566
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.480
Hi, I mean i'll give you, I'll give you a break, and

567
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:52.199
say the second scene he was in
the second scene, he was in best

568
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:57.119
case scenario. That was when people
figured it out. So I don't know,

569
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.559
I'm really curious when they thought people
figured out. And I mean,

570
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.039
for the record, two Giles is
unveiled with like twenty minutes a movie left.

571
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:06.639
Still Yeah, yeah, no,
they definitely well but see, there's

572
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:08.800
one thing I'll say though. Okay, so there's one thing for the the

573
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.239
I don't know why. I'm not
going to give you a schooling about film

574
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.880
storytelling, but it's about friggid don't
open until Christmas. But no, there's

575
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:22.199
an important thing to keep in mind
about suspense. Suspense is all about what

576
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:28.760
you know and what the characters don't. So having Giles revealed as the killer

577
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:36.199
to us could then amplify the suspense
when he's in scenes with other characters.

578
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:40.360
They did not do that. He's
only with the people he's already planning to

579
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:46.199
kill by then. Yeah, but
oftentimes that is the goal. When you

580
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.480
reveal a killer with like twenty minutes
left, is that then the killer is

581
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.960
around somebody? Yeah, I mean
heck. In Babysitter Masca, the movie

582
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:59.760
I directed, I literally my opinion, the moment you really know who the

583
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.679
killer is is a character. I
don't want to spoil it because that movie's

584
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:06.000
not forty years old. Yeah,
but there's a moment where a character folds

585
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.639
their arms and you realize they're wearing
the gloves and the shirts. Yes,

586
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.039
of the killer. It's a great
reveal. Thank you. Well, some

587
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.400
people don't catch it, so then
they don't catch it until the literal unmasking.

588
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.559
That's kind of why I love watching
Babysitter Masker in a theater is because

589
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:22.840
sometimes you can audibly hear when people
have this yeah, oh when they see

590
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:27.480
the gloves, or they won't until
he pulls the mask off. But no,

591
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.000
so I mean, then you know
any other time you like the moment

592
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.119
he folds his hands, about half
the audience is going shit, shit,

593
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.159
shit, shit shit because they know
what's coming. Yeah. So but that

594
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.920
being said, not really done here. No, I would say that the

595
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:45.679
film about a third of the film
attempts to create suspense, Yeah, and

596
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.440
then it just says that fuck it. I think honestly, the suspense is

597
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.840
best created by the set piece,
is one of which will get to now,

598
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.199
which is the London dungeon scene.
Yeah, yeah, that that seems

599
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.920
fine, it's fine, but like
I think what I love about it most

600
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.960
is that you you know what's coming, but like you get to use all

601
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.599
all these great set pieces and kind
of fake it out because there's just wax

602
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.159
figures of corpses and torture and everywhere. So essentially what happens is there's a

603
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.360
Santa that again a drunk. He
comes out of the bar. Almost all

604
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:14.559
of these Santas are drunk. They
are, which I guess checks out.

605
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:16.280
So he comes out of the pub, he gets on his bicycle and he

606
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:20.239
rides past these punks who really aren't
harassing him. They're like, hey,

607
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.280
Santa, what's going on? And
like he flips them off, and then

608
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.679
then they go after him. He
crashes his bike, he goes onto the

609
00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.840
run and then he like hides from
them and he finds the London Dungeon because

610
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.559
he sees the killers like starting to
tail him, so he runs back into

611
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.280
the London Dungeon and that's when he
knocks over the secretary of the dungeon and

612
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:43.000
he goes off into the dungeon to
kind of hide. Secretary runs, gets

613
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.280
her glasses knocked off, they get
stopped on by the killer. The killer

614
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:46.840
comes in and then it's basically,
like I would say, about a five

615
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.880
minute not even chase sequence, but
just hiding sequence of him going through the

616
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.320
dungeon, the killer picking up various
stabbing implements. Yeah, no, it

617
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.880
is. It is mostly just the
character goof the killer, goofing around.

618
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.079
Yeah, so much that when we
see the corpse of the secretary, you

619
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.960
don't even realize it's her at first, because it's just kind of a set

620
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.679
piece of the dungeon at that point. Well, and because like who would

621
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.440
have had the time to string and
hang her upside down from the ceiling.

622
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.599
They talked to her on making a
horror movie and she said that that was

623
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:16.840
a shoot that she was not very
fond of because she was hanging there for

624
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:21.599
like forty minutes while they got the
shot ready. Oh cry about it,

625
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:27.039
tell your union rep. But no. The London Dungeon scene is also very

626
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.440
relevant because it was the one and
only time that a film was ever allowed

627
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:35.199
to shoot the London Dungeon. After
that, no film cruise further allowed to

628
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:38.079
shoot inside there. I think it's
adorable that we're believing they had permission.

629
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:44.920
That's that's also. Yeah, So
from that point on, that Santa gets

630
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.199
killed. And one thing that Enrique
and I realized while watching this is some

631
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:52.599
of the kills are decent to lazy
or just I mean, what would you

632
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.880
write? There are a few good
ones. The ones that had that attempted

633
00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:00.119
suspense, I think it worked really
well. Yeah, the Chestnuts one had

634
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.840
suspense, yep. The London Dungeon
one had a decent amount of suspense,

635
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.360
but it was also kind of thrown
together and cobbled together a bit. Uh.

636
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.119
But it's not hard to tell which
ones they attempted because the ones they

637
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:15.719
don't attempt it's just here's a Santa
stab stab stab stab. It's like one

638
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.280
we have at the circus agin the
Piccadilly Circus going on, and we go

639
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.559
inside the circus with some eighty r
that's clearly not the Santa Claus is talking

640
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:29.760
and stolen shots mind she was hold
on and then the Santa's leave the circus

641
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.039
tint they go outside. One gets
kicked in the nuts by a boot knife

642
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:36.239
and then the other one gets stabbed
with a bottle and then gets stabbed with

643
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:37.960
the bottle again to where the eye
just pops out with no sound effects.

644
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.880
Yeah, yeah, he sticks the
bottle in his eye, but it's silent.

645
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.800
It's like here you go, buddy. And then following that, we

646
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:47.480
have the as you as you heard
in the trailer for the show, we

647
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:53.440
have starring Carolyn Monroe herself except what
two minutes well, and all she's doing

648
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:58.159
is performing a song from I'm guessing
her upcoming music career it was, Yeah,

649
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.840
it was her music career at the
time. She performs Warrior of Love.

650
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.480
So essentially what happens in this scene
is a Sanna, a drunk Santa

651
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.239
wanders into a theater because he thinks
that it's where the party is and he

652
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.400
has to run away from the stage
guy. And then the killer ends up

653
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.760
following him back into it. So
then he runs down into the basement where

654
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:17.760
the stage is and he's running around. Up top, Cara mon Rowe and

655
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:22.760
her band are going into Warrior of
Love and meanwhile down below the Santa still

656
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.719
being stocked. Now, this is
where we also don't get the kill on

657
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:29.159
screen, which happens pretty often too. Yeah, that's very true because what

658
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.280
happens is and this was also another
question that brought us when we were watching.

659
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.199
This is Carol Monroe's performing, and
then you see the sound guy like,

660
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.239
okay, trapdoor, go ahead,
and they raise this trap door and

661
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.400
there's the dead Santa guy with the
axe in his face. What were they

662
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:44.079
putting on that trap door to begin
with? I don't know, it's possible.

663
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.559
I guess that the trap door could
have been to take her off stage.

664
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:52.320
M But then why not just have
it already waiting for her, Like,

665
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.159
yeah, why would you have it
come up so that she could step

666
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.039
on it and lower down? I'll
tell you something. Let me tell you

667
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:02.760
something else about showpasines. Okay,
did she write that song? Yeah,

668
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.559
she was a part writer on it, that's what she says, right right.

669
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:12.440
So here's the thing. So you
hire her for affordable day rate for

670
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.199
a day, you make her look
glamorous and awesome as a singer, and

671
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:20.519
you have her sing her own song. That song is registered with either ASSCAP

672
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:24.039
or b M I or yeah,
and I might have said the wrong name.

673
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:27.559
Whatever a CAP I think is right. Well, ASKAP is definitely right.

674
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.079
No, it's BMI b right,
And I've done this so I know

675
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:37.800
this. When you register, I
register ASKAP. When the film plays places,

676
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:43.880
the song is listed on the Q
sheet. So if it ever airs

677
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:47.840
on television or gets licensed for something
or whatever, you get residuals. Okay,

678
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.559
that's why it's a good deal for
her, because it promoted her song.

679
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.199
Yeah, if it airs on television, she gets residuals. And that's

680
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:57.719
a real thing. And it airs
on regular television, you get residuals.

681
00:44:57.800 --> 00:44:59.519
It may not be a lot,
but back then it was a lot.

682
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.920
More so, it's really just kind
of a perfect like little Well. And

683
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:06.000
she's a grab at this point for
a name, which is why, of

684
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.679
course she's featured in the trailer,
because by this point nineteen sixty seven is

685
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:12.599
Casino Royale. The Abominable Doctor fives
in seventy one, Doctor fives Rises again

686
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.039
in seventy two, Captain Cronos A
Vampire Hunter in seventy four, The Spy

687
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.599
You Loved Me in seventy seven,
Star Crash in seventy eight, Maniac in

688
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.320
eighty, The Last Horror Film in
eighty two, Slaughter High in eighty six,

689
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:24.599
Faceless in eighty eight, and The
Black Cat in eighty nine. So

690
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:29.599
I mean even before Slaughter High and
Faceless, she was still a big name

691
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.320
at this she was definitely declining if
she did this film and then Slaughter High,

692
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:38.320
so she was definitely on her way
out. I'm just saying, So

693
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:42.079
this is the same year as a
last horror film, which is one that

694
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.119
you and I watch recently as well, and that actually kind of was her

695
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:46.840
tail end to horror to where she
basically just did bit rolls from that point.

696
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:51.800
That was quite quite a thing,
a filmless, quite an experience.

697
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:53.320
Yeah, Severn just released it.
If you haven't seen last horror film aka

698
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:58.679
Maniac two AKAA fanatic, highly recommend, really really fun movie just for the

699
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:05.719
con the cons film Festival star.
Yeah, but no can can can so

700
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.239
we have that happened with Carol Monroe. Then we get probably one of the

701
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:12.519
most famous murders in the film,
which is we have an apartment store Santa

702
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.760
that's finished up his shift. He's
shopping. He goes down to use the

703
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.880
lavatory and then the killer sneaks in
and just hacks off his dick as he's

704
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:24.360
taken a pit and just it's just
one fluid motion and then he peeces blood.

705
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:28.840
And much like at the beginning of
the film, people don't scream when

706
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.400
they're being murdered in London, which
makes me wonder just what the blitz Creak

707
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:37.960
did to those people, because in
in the beginning when when the spear goes

708
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.360
through the guy's head, yeah and
he dies it for everybody, they all

709
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:47.039
literally they go like oh oh.
They react like you shit yourself in front

710
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:51.719
of them. They don't react like
you've been murdered. There's no screaming,

711
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:52.960
there's no fame. Well you even
said, you're like, why are they

712
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.280
wincing? Yeah, They're all just
like oh Lord. Like one person looked

713
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.559
like they were like oh great.
Like one person like put their hand on

714
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:04.119
their head and like turned down.
I was like like when Pranam was directing

715
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.760
that scene, was He's just like
okay, and now you found out your

716
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:15.199
cat has diabetes. Cut hrint,
I'm drunk it is, And that's the

717
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:20.000
final Santa kill of the movie because
then we basically get the reveal of what

718
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:23.159
is going on. And spoiler alert
once again. Giles is actually the brother

719
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:28.719
of Perdam's character. He had a
very traumatic incident when they were kids to

720
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.559
where he got a They do a
flashback where you see he gets a nice

721
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:37.119
little Swiss army knife for Christmas and
he's celebrating. Father Christmas brings it and

722
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.039
he's just stabbing the air with it
and playing with the corks kids, dude,

723
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:44.360
and then his mom sends him off
to bed. He goes up to

724
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.920
the bedroom and finds his brother still
or his father still dressed, his father

725
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:52.280
Christmas having an affair with another woman. The mother comes up. He shoves

726
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.320
the mother down the steps, so
we assume that she dies because she screams

727
00:47:54.679 --> 00:48:00.840
and then doesn't move again. And
then he also like shoves Giles side capacitated

728
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.719
her so that she couldn't stop him
from killing his father. Yeah, and

729
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:08.360
so consort, Yeah, I love
that term. Consort consort. And Giles

730
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:12.679
is just standing on the staircase playing
with like just holding this knife and just

731
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.239
angrily, and then it cuts to
Perdome waking up. So what you find

732
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.519
out is Giles is the brother of
Perdome. He was sent to a sanitarium.

733
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.840
Shortly after that he got out.
Prodome's been visiting him for years and

734
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.840
years and years out of guilt,
and now he's secretly posing as this newspaper

735
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:29.239
guy. But he's the killer who's
killing off Santa's because he wants Predomed to

736
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:32.400
have this case that he basically can't
solve. And it's never explained if he's

737
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:37.360
actually somebody who works for the newspaper. Yeah, because there's a part of

738
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:38.440
the same we called and they don't
know anything about you. But then he

739
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:43.920
shows him a newspaper and his name
is on an article. So but that

740
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:45.679
name is his real name because they
have that whole part where it turns out

741
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:51.559
Harris changed his name to Harry Harrison
from Harrison. Yeah. So but uh,

742
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.679
But before we get into the needy, gritty, thrilling conclusion of don't

743
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.840
open until Christmas, I want to
mention I feel like we glossed over to

744
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:04.199
two quickly the Peep Show killed Oh
okay, okay, because this is one

745
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.920
of the this is like to me, this is the scene that defines the

746
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:13.360
film. We see a department store, Santa Claus not drunk, not drunk,

747
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.239
No, there is just British,
just British. We see us a

748
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:21.039
department store, Santa Claus go into
a peep show and he picks up the

749
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.960
phone and this girl starts talking to
him. The dialogue in this scene is

750
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:28.079
super offbeat. It is, and
I mean that with love. Yeah.

751
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.199
Like he comes in and he's like, I've never been to a place like

752
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:35.800
this before. She's like me neither, It's completely new to me. And

753
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:37.199
you know, she's lie. She's
like, well, you know, their

754
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:43.159
job is to create a fantasy.
So then he's like you know, he's

755
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.400
like, I live with my mother
and work at the you know whatever.

756
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:46.800
And she's like, oh, I
live with my mother too, And he's

757
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:49.760
like, well, you know,
how does she feel about you doing?

758
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:51.840
Does you know what you do for
a living? And she's like she owns

759
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.320
the place. She's just making stuff
up to make the guy go like whoa

760
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.639
you know. And so as they're
starting to heat things up, and she's

761
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.800
saying like drop another five and I'll
take off my top and there's a plexan

762
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:06.480
Yeah, blast between them. Yeah. Uh. Then all of a sudden,

763
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.239
he gets stabbed and blood sprays all
over race. Now she is established

764
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:14.000
as a character that we get to
follow the rest of the movie, which

765
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:15.719
is not long as we said,
It was about thirty minutes away from the

766
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:20.320
ending. So then she goes to
the police department. The police are like,

767
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.840
hey, you saw the killer's face. He's gonna come back for you.

768
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.239
So, which is weird because it's
like, why did he come back?

769
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.039
I didn't he just kill her?
Then, but he's like, they're

770
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.400
gonna he's gonna come back for you. And she's like, oh, I

771
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:31.320
just want to go to work.
Can I go to work? And they're

772
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.440
like, no, no, because
the killer's gonna come for you. Yeah.

773
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:37.119
So then what does she do.
She goes back to work. Whip,

774
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.599
She goes back to work, and
the killer comes for her at the

775
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:45.440
work and it just so the killer
breaks through the glass kidnaps her. So

776
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:47.519
now it breaks very easily through the
ground. You put it out because he

777
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:51.199
just like puts his hands through it
and it just shatters. Yeah. Yeah,

778
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.199
it was like Jason Voorhe's in part
three. But so now she's she's

779
00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:00.519
been kidnapped. Yeah, and by
the guy who we all know is but

780
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.960
apparently we're not supposed to know he's
Giles and only showing his mouth, even

781
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.920
though he does not do anything to
hide his voices. So then when she

782
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:13.519
is captive and they reveal its Giles
and then he's interacting with her, even

783
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.039
then the interactions are weird. She
does not seem to understand he's going to

784
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:19.880
kill her, even though she says
it well, and she's confused by even

785
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:25.599
though she's she's literally watched him murder
someone. What is like, you know,

786
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:29.480
uh uh, you saw me murder
someone? You saw my face?

787
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:35.719
Oh god, what are you gonna
do? I'm knighting, Madam lieber Stock,

788
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.400
Like, like, what what did
you think was gonna happen? He's

789
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:42.960
gonna freaking off you? And why
is he keeping you? Probably because he's

790
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.119
a pervert, but you know,
I'm not here to make assumption. But

791
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.679
even when he kidnaps her, he
even says it's because she sells her body,

792
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.920
that she doesn't have respect. He
saw my face, yes, the

793
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:53.599
big one, but yeah, but
then he says, like, you're just

794
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:58.400
like all of all of them,
all the women. You sell your body,

795
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:00.760
you sell it, you sell piece
by piece, he has a whole

796
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.440
monologue that's honestly pretty well delivered.
The guy who plays Giles is good,

797
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:07.239
Yeah, Alan Allen Lake is phenomenal. He's good. So but but I

798
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.920
just want to mention that. So
then when if she escapes, yeah,

799
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.079
okay, well let's back out,
ye okay, okay. So the whole

800
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.000
movie, Kate is trying to figure
out obviously what's going on, and she

801
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:21.480
knows that something is up with Perdam's
character, like she knows that Inspector Harris

802
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:25.840
just has something involved, and this
that he's sexy. So they end up

803
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.960
sharing a nice Christmas dinner together because
she finds out that he's been going to

804
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.000
Parkland, which is a sanitarium.
She goes to visit it. We don't

805
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.559
see any of that except her going
into it sitting, and then that's it.

806
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.599
So we're kind of left as viewers
of what's going on. So then

807
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:43.159
she goes to this nice dinner with
per Doom and not really anything happens except

808
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.559
Cliff catches them and goes off angrily. She goes back to her apartment and

809
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:49.880
Giles has broken in, and he's
still given the whole thing of oh well,

810
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.480
I work for the newspaper and I'm
just here to ask questions. Well,

811
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.440
then she realizes that he's the brother, because she's put two and two

812
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.320
together. At this point, she
knows that he's changed his name from Harrison.

813
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.079
She knows that Pardum has a brother. So then the phone goes to

814
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:05.440
ring because Pal's calling her. So
Giles just straights up, strangles her,

815
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.880
then kills her, and then that
strangles then kill he'll strangles her and then

816
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:13.480
stabs stabs her brutal, yea,
so very brutally. So then Powell goes

817
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:15.039
to her apartment because she doesn't pick
up the phone, finds the body.

818
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:19.840
He calls the rest of the inspectors
because they've been supposed to watch for Dome

819
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:21.559
and they're like, well, he
hasn't left his apartment all night, which

820
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:24.480
is bullshit because they went to dinner. So that's a lie. Yeah,

821
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:30.920
so bad writing could have been a
lie, yes, So so then Paull

822
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:36.280
decides that he's going to tail Giles, so he find he tails him to

823
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:38.400
this auto yard and he's trying to
get after him, and then Giles ends

824
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:43.400
up ringing this card that he's searching
to shock and kill Powell. So Pal

825
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:46.159
dies from electrocution. Giles goes back
to and a pretty big cop out of

826
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:51.639
it. Yeah, a lot of
sparks, a lot of sparks and Giles.

827
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:53.119
So he goes back to Sharon and
he's like, you know, I'm

828
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.840
gonna kill you at Christmas time.
And she's trying to, like, you

829
00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:59.639
know, get him to warm up
to the idea of Christmas and bringing back

830
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:01.440
memory, and in doing so,
distracts him, grabs a board, hits

831
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:07.639
him, And this is our prostitute
hero who just starts saying Christmas goose and

832
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:13.840
I'm pudding and fairy lights and he's
just stop stop it, which which I

833
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:20.199
love because it doesn't make any sense
why she would know that Christmas ephemera makes

834
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.679
him so angry. She doesn't.
She just starts rattling us off. Now

835
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:29.159
maybe she noticed the way he reacted
to one thing, so she just kept

836
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:30.480
saying him, I'm gonna give the
benefit of the doubt with a doubt.

837
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:34.840
But yeah, So now she hits
him with a board, gets out and

838
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.519
runs up these stairs and John because
he's unchained her so she can eat her

839
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:39.679
food, Yes, he brings her
repair. Yes, how can I forget?

840
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:44.280
Yeah? Yeah, so the unchains
her. She hits him with the

841
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.039
board, runs out the door,
and he is Look, she doesn't the

842
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:50.679
door locked? Oh the doors?
Yeah, because she says, I need

843
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:54.320
the key to the door. Key. She's either she's either yelling just in

844
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:59.559
general, or she's asking him for
the like asking him where the key is?

845
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:00.920
I mean she he does say where
is the key? Turns around and

846
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:02.519
looks at him, and he pulls
it out of his pocket, like,

847
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:06.079
Oh, here it is. I've
had it this entire time. Oh this

848
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:08.360
key. How did I know you
had the key? I guess because you

849
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:12.039
live here something. She runs up
to him, gets the key, hits

850
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.000
him again, gets out the door, and then they're in the basement of

851
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:16.599
like this three story building. So
they just go running up the steps.

852
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:20.920
Giles is knocking the chain against the
railing tailing her. They get to the

853
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:23.119
top of the steps, he's cornered
her where there's no place to run,

854
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:29.000
and then she he swings the chain
over the railing. She grabs it,

855
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:35.119
pulls the chain and launches Giles off
this three story staircase to the bottom.

856
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.400
Yeah, and I know what you're
thinking, clearly Giles is dead. Well.

857
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:45.079
She returns to Giles's body for some
fucking reason which I still don't understand.

858
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:46.840
I mean, I guess you would
want to confirm the killer's dead.

859
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:50.519
I guess, yeah. But she
had to pass by him to go down

860
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:52.880
the stairs out the door though.
So Giles comes back to screaming, and

861
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:55.840
then we cut to Perdome, who's
having trouble sleeping in bed. He has

862
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.599
the dream that is the flashback of
Giles catching his father Tree eating and killing

863
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.800
the mother, and then per Dome
goes out to his living room and this

864
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:06.880
is the ending scene of the film. He lights a cigarette, and the

865
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:09.039
beginning of the film, he received
a package that said don't open till Christmas.

866
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:10.960
We see a mail carrier bring it
to him, and then we just

867
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.719
see the package sit the rest of
the movie. So he picks it up.

868
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:16.559
He sees a note that says from
your loving brother. He opens it

869
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:22.239
up. It's a music box that
has a Santa spinning and playing jingle,

870
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.519
and so he goes to light a
cigarette. He's sitting down. The music

871
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:32.239
box finishes and then blows up.
It just on his mantle. It explodes

872
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:38.159
massively, and the way the scene
is shown is the best part. It

873
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:45.880
explodes and he just kind of goes
and sees some makeup because apparently when they

874
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.320
blew up the thing, he didn't
turn the way he was supposed to,

875
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.719
so he falls over. And before
he's even done falling over to the ground,

876
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:57.079
the credits just fade in. It's
like, we're done, guys,

877
00:56:57.079 --> 00:57:01.840
we're done. The movie's over.
That's Christmas, so that, my friends

878
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:07.039
is don't open until Christmas from nineteen
eighty four, And I mean, wow,

879
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.400
I just I love this movie.
No, it's so much fun.

880
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:14.480
And I know we spent a lot
of time picking on the film, but

881
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:21.239
it's because of these massive, glaring, unrelenting flaws that I love this movie

882
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:22.920
and watch it almost every Christmas.
Yeah. Well, and there's just there's

883
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:27.840
just those little cheeky moments, like
we we forgot to mention that Giles before

884
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.159
he unchained Sharon. He's like,
you're not going to scape, are you?

885
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:31.280
And she's like, I won't,
and then the camera just has to

886
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:37.800
show her she crosses her fingers.
She's an adult woman lying to save her

887
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:44.719
life and she has to cross her
fingers. It's and this is see but

888
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:49.320
this is guys, this is absurdity. For me. We can't we just

889
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:55.239
guys, we just watched this film, like we just we just shut the

890
00:57:55.239 --> 00:58:00.039
movie off and came in here and
recorded. Yes, we did, and

891
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:05.880
we were forgetting ridiculous details because that's
how outrageous. Don't open until Christmas is

892
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.280
and I mean it goes without showing
that. Like we said, this movie

893
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:12.079
was a trouble production. And I
feel like I have a lot of charm

894
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.920
for trouble productions because it's just a
charm for trouble production. I mean,

895
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:17.960
I just I find them charming in
regards of the fact we still get the

896
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.400
movie. Yeah. No, I
agree. There are a few good examples.

897
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.719
Devil's Time Devil times five, Yes, is a really good example of

898
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:27.840
a troubled movie that turned out really
fun. Yeah, And there are big

899
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.519
mainstream examples too. I can't think
of any off the top of my head.

900
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:32.159
I mean, I just did a
podcast with our good buddy Birdman over

901
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:36.000
this week in Geek on the Maniac
Cop series, and Maniac Cop three is

902
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:39.480
one of the most I think infamous
troubled productions for Yeah. Yeah, So,

903
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:42.719
I mean, it's just the fact
that we have this movie. We

904
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.960
have a great release of it now
too, with a bunch of bonus features

905
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.800
and I mean it's a perfect holiday
slasher film if you're looking for one that's

906
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.280
just pure entertainment. I mean I
would say you don't want to watch it

907
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:55.639
by yourself, and you want to
watch it with a group of friends so

908
00:58:55.679 --> 00:59:00.639
you could have a laugh. But
yeah, yeah, I agree. In

909
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:05.280
final thoughts, I just I'm gonna
give this a stream it rating. We

910
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.039
have three ratings on dou even movie. We have stream it, rent it,

911
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:10.519
or buy it. I'm gonna give
this a stream it because I think

912
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:15.679
it's just one that unless this is
in your wheelhouse of holiday slashers or just

913
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:17.000
slashers in general, I don't really
think it's gonna be one you just want

914
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:20.760
to go out and buy it immediately. Yeah, I would have to agree

915
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.719
with that. If I was going
to give it a rating, it would

916
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:24.920
be a stream it as well.
Yeah, with a caveat that if you

917
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:30.840
are a big movie nerd weirdo who
likes to watch offbeat things every year,

918
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:35.960
you know, if you if you're
somebody who you know watches Silent Night Deadly

919
00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:39.599
Night every year like I do,
then you probably want to own it.

920
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:44.719
Yes, But that being said,
I mean with the ease you can stream

921
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:47.760
it, you may as well stream
it absolutely, so that's my opinion too.

922
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.480
And if you want an extra recommendation, if don't know until Christmas is

923
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:54.559
enough isn't enough for you, I
do have one that I'm gonna bring to

924
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:59.599
the table and get ready, Enrique, Oh no, I know what it's

925
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:04.639
gonna be. To All a Good
Night nineteen eighty directed by David Hess of

926
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:07.039
Last House on the Left and House
on the Edge of the Park. This

927
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:08.679
is a film about a group of
girls at a finishing school that are planning

928
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:13.039
a party during Christmas break at their
house, but their past comes back to

929
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:15.000
haunt them in the form of a
killer dressed is Santa Claus. It's a

930
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:20.039
fun one. I am glad I
actually could see it, Yeah, because

931
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.760
the first time I watched it,
all the night scenes were too dark to

932
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:24.760
make out what was happening. The
blu ray that came out, you can

933
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:30.920
actually tell what's happening anymore. But
I think it's a perfect pairing. Well,

934
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:34.800
yeah, the only problem with that
movie, or not problem. Even

935
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:37.559
one of the things I like the
most about about an all through the House

936
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:42.119
or there was that tow algan Night
to all the Night. Yeah, confusion.

937
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.119
One of my favorite things about TWA
All A Good Night is that it

938
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:52.320
is so recklessly and shamelessly derivative.
It is just like ripping off Happy Birthday,

939
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:57.599
to be wrapping off April Fool's Day, ripping off just any slasher movie,

940
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:00.880
but weirdly none of the successful ones. No, it's like ripping off

941
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.159
the ones that people like. Now. I don't know why, but but

942
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:08.159
that is. That is the experience
you get with that film. Yeah,

943
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:13.360
it's not as outrageous. Honestly.
The funniest thing in that whole movie for

944
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.320
me is that two of the guys
are supposed to be in high school and

945
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.039
they look like they're like forty five
or not. To mention when you recognize

946
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.559
that those couple of porn stars that
appeared, well, I mean they're like

947
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.000
Jamie Gillis and stuff. I mean's
and Harry reims Is Harry reams. Yeah,

948
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:29.519
yep. So no, I think
that's a decent recommendation. I would

949
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:32.639
also recommend Silent Night, Bloody Night, Yes, because it is. It's

950
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:37.039
it's a pretty good movie, but
it's it's it's available everywhere. It's pretty

951
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:42.719
christmas y. Yeah, very low
budget, but it has a charm to

952
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.199
it that I think works, but
there I don't know if there is a

953
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:47.280
Christmas movie this insane other than like
Silent Night, Deadly Night too. And

954
01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:51.719
I think to piggyback off you in
regards the Silent I Bloody Knight. I

955
01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:55.559
love the gothic nature of it with
the big house speA. It does Gothic

956
01:01:55.679 --> 01:02:00.800
elements super Oh so that's a fun
one. Yeah, I would agree with

957
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:04.000
that. I think that is what
I've got to say. Final thoughts on

958
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:13.400
the tone of Christmas? Do you
have any sir? Uh? I guess

959
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.159
my final thought on don up until
Christmas is, no matter how many bear

960
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:22.159
breasts you can pay for, no
matter how many explosions and squibs you could

961
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:29.360
throw at the audience, when you
just truly lack an understanding of the human

962
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:32.920
mind the way these people did.
Like it's like when people watch The Room

963
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:36.559
and they're like, it feels like
it was written by somebody from another planet.

964
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:38.039
That's how see sometimes how these movies
feel. They feel like they were

965
01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:43.280
assembled by an alien race. Yeah, that only understands us from like watching

966
01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:47.039
The Flintstones. Yeah, so that's
my final thought. Other than that,

967
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:52.159
I think it's totally worth watching at
least once in your holiday viewing easily to

968
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:54.039
find right now. Like we said, the Blu Ray is available from Vincent

969
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:57.599
and it's available lots of places in
the stream. You can find it just

970
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:00.320
about anywhere anywhere. So yeah,
make sure you check out. It was

971
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:07.320
on Christmas nineteen eighty four, directed
by Edmund Perdom and Alan Bergshaw appsbolutely and

972
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.360
that is our first Christmas recommendation and
we have many more to come. Oh

973
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.440
there's always more, my DearS.
So but before we get out of here,

974
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.320
I want to say thank you to
everybody who checked out our first two

975
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.880
episodes This Looks Good Kill and Planes, Trains and Automobiles. They were really

976
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:24.800
fun episodes to do. And thank
you to our Patreon backers. If you

977
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:30.079
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978
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:34.159
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979
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:37.840
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980
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:40.159
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981
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.239
Instagram at do you even movie Pod? Yeah, we would love to have

982
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.760
you around us or something. You
can also email us at Doeevenmoviepod at gmail

983
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:52.679
dot com or contact us at the
website. And next week's show, we're

984
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:58.440
going to be covering a film that
we discovered that I feel like not enough

985
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.440
other people have discovered Cold Mercer see
Christmas. Yes, it is a indie

986
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:06.840
movie for I think twenty seventeen,
seventeen, and it is a it's a

987
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:10.719
strange one, it's a fun one, and I wish more people had seen

988
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:14.199
it. I think it barely has
sixty reviews on Amazon. It deserves a

989
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:16.159
lot more attention. Yes, so
we're going to tell you all about it

990
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:21.000
next week, But until then,
all of you be well, stay whatever,

991
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:26.400
and don't dress as Santa Claus in
line forgot. Let me just take

992
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:30.960
the Santa head off. We'll see
you guys next week. You next leg