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Oct. 22, 2024

Dark Night of the Scarecrow (1981)

Dark Night of the Scarecrow (1981)
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Henrique and David revisit Dark Night of the Scarecrow (1981), Frank De Felitta’s made-for-CBS supernatural horror film. Larry Drake plays Bubba Ritter, a gentle, intellectually disabled man whose friendship with young Marylee draws the suspicion of local mailman Otis Hazelrigg. After Bubba saves the girl from a dog attack, Otis ignores the truth and leads three armed vigilantes to murder him. Charles Durning makes that self-appointed crusader frighteningly ordinary.
The men conceal their crime by planting a pitchfork and are released for lack of evidence, but an empty scarecrow begins appearing in their fields before fatal “accidents.” Lane Smith, Claude Earl Jones and Robert F. Lyons complete the guilty group, while Tonya Crowe plays Marylee. Henrique and David follow the mystery without flattening Bubba into a monster, emphasizing his innocence, his mother’s grief and the town’s willingness to treat a vulnerable neighbor as a convenient scapegoat.
The hosts celebrate the film’s old-fashioned Southern Gothic atmosphere: moonlit farmland, windblown branches, cicadas, pumpkin patches and long stretches of quiet dread. They single out Bubba’s terrified eyes behind the scarecrow mask, Durning’s escalating paranoia and the eerie final exchange between Marylee and the figure in the field. A wood-chipper death cutting directly to cherry preserves at breakfast becomes the episode’s most memorably wicked visual joke.
Both hosts first encountered the movie after years of hearing horror fans praise a television title that was difficult to find. Its restored home-video release exceeded their expectations and became a Halloween favorite. Their conversation also preserves a trip to Ohio’s Brimstone Haunt, including a disorienting haunted house, an expansive nighttime trail and a hayride where performers, vehicles and a headless horseman transformed the surrounding grounds into a live horror set.
Production discussion distinguishes the unnamed Southern setting from the real shoot in Piru, California, where the film was completed on a short schedule before its October 1981 CBS premiere. Henrique and David both give it a buy-it rating, calling it a valuable time capsule of made-for-television horror as well as an effective revenge story. Recommendations include Strangeland, Scarecrows and Pumpkinhead, films that extend its themes of mob justice, rural atmosphere and vengeance from beyond the grave.
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Tonight on the CBS Saturday Night Movies. This gentleman saved

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this little girl's life, but they accused him of.

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Harming her, and he was tragically murdered.

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Now, one by one, the men of this town are dying.

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Who is his avenger? Is it the dead man's grief

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stricken mother, the little girl who loved him? Or would

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it be the Scarecrow? Dark Knight of the Scarecrow? Coming

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up next.

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In a world where podcasts reigned supreme, two friends dare

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to ask.

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Do You Even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David de Neuer.

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Spoiler alert, Hello, my friends, and welcome back to Do

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You Even?

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Movie? I'm, of course your host, Enriquekuto here with my

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good buddy and lover of violent vengeance maybe David Denoyer. Greetings,

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and we have a very special, very spooky Halloween episode

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this week. We do as opposed to the other weeks

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of Halloween episodes we've already done this month.

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I think this is the spookiest.

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Well, I would be hard pressed to disagree. Yeah, because

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this is Tonight's episode is all about the nineteen eighty

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one made for TV movie Dark Night of the Scarecrow,

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which is in a very small and very exclusive list

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of made for TV horror movies that just traumatized the

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United States.

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It was one of those movies that I was lucky

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enough to have known about it when that Blu Ray

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came out, because it had been one that had been

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sought after by every horror person. I mean, there was

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a Horror Hound issue. I remember that put they put

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out in like the early to like early twenty tens.

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I want to say that we was all about like

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horror titles that were still only on VHS or had

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never gotten off VHS, and this was a big one

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that they were wanting to see finally get a release.

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Yeah. I actually saw it for the first time on

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Blu Ray. Yeah, because when it came out, it was

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such a big deal and I had been I had

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been hearing things about Dark Knight and the Scarecrow for

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a very long time.

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Yeah.

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So it was one of those movies that I didn't

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think I was gonna like it as much as I

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ended up loving it. Basically why, I don't know, like

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TV movies. I'm a big fan of TV movies, Like

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you know this because we've watched a lot together, sure,

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but at the same time, like I was kind of

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a picky bitch again. Like like we said last week,

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I was kind of a picky bitch at this point,

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and I thought you were too good for the time.

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I didn't know if the TV movie was going to

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be good. I didn't know if the TV movie was

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going to keep my attention. I didn't know if it

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was going to be scary as it had been.

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I mean said a movie that's literally made to keep

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you from changing the channel. Yeah, and you were like,

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I don't know, I mean, what were you like, I mean,

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Trilogy of Terrors freaking laying? Was that your argument?

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I hadn't seen Trilogia Terror yet? What triulya Terror? I

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didn't see until probably twenty twelve.

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Geez, that's wild.

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I got the Dark Sky DVD and that's how I

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saw it for the first time.

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Well fair enough, Yeah, Well, but before we dive into that,

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and also talk about going to the Brimstone Haunts, yes,

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which we did. After last week's episode on Scary Movie

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nineteen ninety one, I became enamored and obsessed with going

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to a haunt. You did, and I made that happen.

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You did.

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But before we get to that, there is an important

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topic that we need to cover. Okay, very important in fact,

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for the first time ever on even movie, we have

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b roll of David in Cleveland, Ohio, Jesus and apparently

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no sound, no sound, although I mean, we're just not

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getting it. We found your yellow belt. Trying so hard

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to try, so hard to make this work.

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Yeah, yell, why was that? Because it is a long

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that's well for.

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The people who are watching, they're witnessing it. This is

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what happens when everything is live and also and also

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truly horrible. So we'll try. Okay, we're going to do this.

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This will work this time, this time. Yes, that's a

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my bad, it has been. I've never done a live

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switch on the show. But this is David receiving his

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yellow belt at Cinema Wasteland in.

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Cleveland, so special.

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Something is going to deliver it. Okay, we found your

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yellow belt. Look at that.

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Now you got your yellow belt.

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You finally have your yellow belt.

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I was so just not.

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No, you wouldn't even wear it.

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I would not wear it. No. For one, it did

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not go with anything I.

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Was wearing yellow and literally go together. No, they do

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not whul Cogan would would definitely disagree with you. Yeah

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he would. So, no, what you what you're mad? All

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we wanted to do was reunite you with your yellow and.

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Now I have it, so so now we can never

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talk about it again. It's it's done.

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Probably, Yes, if you wore it on the show, that

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was good.

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I've actually meant to grab it tonight.

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But I forgot hurtful.

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Well, I'm sorry. I in my defense, I got nothing.

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That's fair.

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Yeah, I got nothing.

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No, that's completely an utter.

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No. But if anybody's wondering why I look pretty agitated,

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it wasn't because of the yellow boat. It was because

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my drive to Cleveland got forty five minutes to an

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hour extra added to it because it diverted me around Columbus,

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And because of that, I was on back roads going

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through forty two and whatnot, got stuck behind a bunch

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of semis, got stuck behind a bunch of slow drivers,

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and also had to pee really bad the entire time

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during all this. But I didn't want to stop and

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lose my place in line.

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And because of that, you were that grumpy the next day.

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That wasn't the next day. That was when I arrived.

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Dude, I thought that was on.

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That was literally when I arrived. Yeah, I know for

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a fact, because I was wearing my Frank Zappers shirt.

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Okay, I guess I'll have to take your word for it.

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Yeah, I mean you absolutely can.

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I don't usually trust David, especially when he's explaining why

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he's in a bad mood, which is there's always a reason.

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That's the that's the law of David.

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I mean, there should be a reason.

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There's always a reason that he's in a bad mood.

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H October fourth.

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That a Friday, because it was fourth, fifth and sixth.

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All right, fine, you're right on Ah, no.

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Believe me. I remember I just I had just arrived

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at your table and you said you had a gift

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for me.

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Yeah. Well, never again, no gifts for David. Everybody. Just remember,

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if you do something nice for David, he will treat

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you like a sack of shit. This is some sie

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I think. So you told the story about how you

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earned a yellow belt on the show and then lost

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the yellow belt. We were trying to make you whole.

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You're trying to meet me a whole.

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We were trying to allright, more than just one friend.

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Well, I appreciate it regardless.

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Do you. I do well. Beyond that, we did go

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to the Brimstone Haunt yes, last weekend, shortly after recording Yeah,

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the next day after recording Yeah, and had a pretty

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damn good time. Dave is too good to have a

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good time, so he was just like standing with his

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arms cross going like, it's not even scary. You're not

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even scary. That's what Dave did the whole Whereas he

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was like, yeah, because I was scared, like a good person,

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You're supposed to be scared. That's the point of going

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to a haunt.

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I think, I think the story we need to tell, though,

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is is the horror, the horror moment that you experienced

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of me saying that there wasn't there was nothing wrong

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in one corner and then there turned out to be

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a person there that suddenly came to life.

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Oh oh oh no no yeah. Yeah. So so at

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the Brimstone Haunt in Wilmington, Ohio, they have three attractions.

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They have basically one is called I.

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Think they have four. Technically they had that one we

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didn't go to because the paintball.

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That's not an attraction, that's a midway, that's a game.

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It's a game. Yeh.

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Yeah. Right, So they had the Bog, which is a

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haunted trail. Yep uh. They had a haunted hay ride

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forgetting what was.

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Called I think of the first one either the hay

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ride I think was just called I feel like it

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was just called the haunted hay Ride.

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I I I of course, and now forget.

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It's all good.

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But they also had a haunted house. Basically, they had

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a house, a trail in a hay ride. Yeah, and

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which is a pretty good earning, a pretty good way

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to haunted hayride.

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The bog psychosis, psychosis, Okay, psychopath.

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our friend Tommy Gunn. But so I loved that we

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got to experience for one price, we got three, three haunting, haunting,

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haunting experiences. And when we were doing the psych I

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think was psychosis.

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Psychosis is the first one that we did the Bog.

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Then we ended with that.

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Trying to the one that you brought up.

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Oh that would have been that would have been psychosis.

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Yeah, yes, that was what I was saying. Yeah. So, literally,

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like a horror film, we're walking through, you know, the

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the rooms with the flashing lights and the loud music

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that disorients you. Also, Dave just left the group by

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the beginning.

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Let me interject here, because I was behind was the

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first for the last one.

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Now at that point, you were the last one. The

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last came the first one.

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Yeah, because basically what had happened was you guys had

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gone into the Haunt. I was right behind you, guys.

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I turned a corner and y'all were fucking gone.

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Well, Dave didn't notice the person saying get in the elevator.

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I didn't see a person at all.

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Well, they were only wearing white.

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There was no one there when I got into the haunt.

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It was a hallway that was the rest of the haunt.

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And then you fuckers were gone.

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And we didn't run off. We literally just walked up

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to the guy. He went to where you were supposed

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to go, Yeah, to the guide, and then the guide

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ushered us into the elevator. Yeah, we experienced the elevator,

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which was really fun. Yeah, but then we realized that

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you weren't there. We assumed that it was part of

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the show. Nope, No, it was Dave just meandering off

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on his own.

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I was not meandering. I don't know how I got separated.

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I was right behind you at one point and then

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I wasn't.

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The woman who was guiding us was also like, I

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have no idea how he didn't follow us. So that's

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number one. But the experience that David was mentioning was

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we went into one of these rooms and there are

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all these rooms with hanging bodies and stuff, and there

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was one body that had like arms up and it

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was hanging there and Dave literally looks around and then

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you turn back to me and you're just kind of

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like saying something, and as you say that, the body

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hanging the one arm just comes down in the other

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and it was literally like a horror movie because you're

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looking away and now I'm seeing her reveal that she

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is in fact not a prop. Yes, so super super fun. Yeah,

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then the Bog was I was really shocked.

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It was so immersive because the bog starts off. You

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start off in this little town basically like you're right

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outside like a movie theater.

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Yeah, there's like a marquee of a movie theater right

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at the start. Then there's a crashed airplane.

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Creature that clicks its mouth.

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Well, that was the coolest creature of the entire night,

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almost truly mortified.

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Yeah, do You Even movie? Will be right back, welcome

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back to Do You Even?

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Movie?

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And as we walked through the path kept going and

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going because at first I was a little nervous because well,

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I was nervous because it was scary, but I was

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a little nervous because it seemed like there was wasn't

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a lot going on until I realized that that was

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because we weren't even halfway through.

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No, we walked the entire whole side of the park

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because we started at the same side that you start

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on Psychosis, and then when you came out of the bog,

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you were right next to the hay Ride.

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Yeah, we came out on the complete other side of

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the Haunt, and there was a lot of wandering dark woods.

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There was a lot of detail in the props that

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would really grab you, and I had a really good

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time with that. But I have to say I think

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that the highlight was the hay Ride, absolutely, and we

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were all excited to get on the hay Ride, David,

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especially because I've not been on a hay ride since

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I was a child, and they were very scary. Well,

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in my day, a haunted hay ride was you got

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on the trailer and the tractor would pull you and

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like crazy people would like run after you with chainsaws

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and yell and chase at you and grab at you.

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Not this one, Nope, the Haunt actors were immediately jumping

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right in with us.

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We started at a state penitential penitentiaria that had like

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a sign everything we rolled into. They had people behind

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the bars and then they literally just hopped into our ride.

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Yeah, these like psycho prisoner dressed up people were jumping

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in and they were blaring death metal and then they

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had an execution happening off the side. It was really

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really cool. But that was just the beginning. As we

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start going through this hay ride, it was I know,

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I keep saying, but it was like a horror movie.

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And obviously we're trying to make it like a horror movie.

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But first of all, we passed through a drive in

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movie theater. We passed through an old abandoned amusement park.

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Auto shop.

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Yep.

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I mean the was really cool about it was just

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you did not know what was going to be around

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each corner. You could see up ahead like you're like, okay,

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that looks like a little bit of driving new building.

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But then you had people coming out of the cornfield.

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You had people hanging on the side that would jump

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onto the wacon Oh.

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Yeah, people would they would sneak onto the wagon.

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People wouldn't even realize you were sitting next to a haunter.

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But what really grabbed me was as we're driving along,

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we hear an engine rev and it's another tractor. Yeah,

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and it pulls up right behind us. And then just

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like a horror movie, as soon as it gets like

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right up to us, it just flips its lights on

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yep and honks and hanks, and then it albeit gently,

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it gently tamped us a few times, which was really

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freaking cool.

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Yeah, because then you had the hearst that drove up

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alongside us as well. Yes, the fire truck. Yeah, not

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to mention that you had a bunch of pyrotechnics here

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and there too.

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Yeah, there were some fire effects and things like that.

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And then what I think was probably the most impressive,

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a headless horseman on an actual with a human head

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jack o' lantern in his hand. Yeah. It was really

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really awesome and just what I needed because I've been

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working on godly hours this October to get the thirty

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one days of shows done on weekly Spooky and I

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really needed some Halloween time for me.

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I love that. We kind of also had to talk

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Jeff and Keith into it because they were they just

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weren't that into it. They were into that, and then

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it was just like, no, we're doing this basics.

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Well, they were willing, but then they weren't, like they

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weren't into talking about like where we're gonna go or whatever.

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But the second we got there, we having a great time.

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Although Jeff our buddy Jeff immediately resorts to reverts to

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dad mode. Oh yeah, just whatever. There was a scary

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actor to go, oh man, that's that kind of kills people. Yeah, yeah,

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he's a funny bastard.

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I would also like to point out that the refreshments

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and concessions were very well priced as well as delicious.

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Yeah they were good.

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I got a soft pretzel and an apple fritter.

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And I got this shirt from the shop.

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I would have gotten a shirt, but they were out

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of Excel.

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Well I'm sorry about.

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Should have lost weight. I guess so well, they had

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two XL and I was like, I don't want a

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night shirt.

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Night shirt.

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So anyway, it was a really fun time. If you

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happened to be in the Dayton, Ohio or Cincinnati area. Yeah,

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I do recommend you check out Brimstone Haunt. It's out

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by the Renaissance Festival apparently, which I didn't quite realize.

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The grounds almost.

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Yeah, well they have a gargantuan tract of land. So anyway,

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that was our Halloween fun. You're welcome that I made

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us all do that, because David was like, oh, I

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was just thinking I was gonna sit around and be mad.

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No, what I said was, that's what you said. What

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I specifically said was because I had not had a

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refund yet for my hotel room for Cleveland, was that

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I did not know if I had Haunt money yet,

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and luckily I did have Hant money.

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They take normal money too, well, they do.

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I didn't know this.

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Yeah, not just boo Bucks.

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Just boo Bucks. Are you ready to get into me?

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No? Yeah, of course, I mean we unform. Fortunately, there

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was not a horror film for us to see this week.

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No, but a Saturday Night. I would give it four

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out of five stars.

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Oh yeah, Saturday Night. It was pretty damn fun. Yeah,

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the Saturday Night Live origin story.

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I guess yeah, I'm going to read into that to

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see how much of that all happened.

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Well, I mean, obviously, I think they made it very

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clear that it didn't actually all happen an hour and

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a half.

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No, I think that that was all from the from

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the initial I don't even think of the word I'm

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blanking right now.

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Anyway, from the time they started developing.

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Yes, development, that was the word. I couldn't think.

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Okay, okay, well, well we're starting off on a good track.

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We are no more words.

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So we're talking about Dark Knight of the Scarecrow from

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nineteen eighty one, one hour and thirty six minutes rated

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TV fourteen.

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Ah, yes, well they Well that's weird. They didn't have

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TV fourteen.

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That's what it says on IMDb.

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Oh.

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I mean, but well, the TV ratings, the TV fourteen,

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TV m A, TVGPT, those are all self ascribed. They

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are not in any way overseen by anybody. I know,

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because when I first started putting my films on streaming,

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I found out that they were self designations. So I

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used them to help get my stuff through streaming.

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There you go.

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And then they'd be like, well, where did you get

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this certificate certification, I'd be like, look it up that

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there's none. You're the ones who accept it. It's not

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my fault, my fault.

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I guess it's rated of your discretioned advice at that

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point then.

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I mean, I guess. I mean they didn't have ratings

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for TV shows back then. It was on broadcasts, so

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there was no swearing, no nudity, no no blood. Really

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it was meant for families to watch. Yeah, it aired

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in October of nineteen eighty one, but I mean TV

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fourteen would probably be a fair rating for it today, I.

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Would for sure. Director of the film is Frank de Felida,

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and he gets his start as a writer in nineteen

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twenty three with Your Jeweler Showcase. Goes on to write

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for The Tales of Tomorrow in fifty two, Plymouth Playhouse

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in fifty three, Medallion Theater in fifty three, Armstrong Circle

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Theater in fifty four, Suspense in fifty four, Mattine Theater

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in fifty seven, Witchcraft in sixty one, The Savage Is Loose,

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Audrey Rose in seventy seven, The Entity in eighty two,

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which he has a novel and screenplay credit for Killer

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in the Mirror in eighty six and The Petthouse in

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eighty nine. He doesn't get his directing writing starting until

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sixty one, which was when he did Assignment Underwater, followed

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by The DuPont Show of the Week in sixty two,

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The Stately Ghost of England in sixty five, Doberman Patrol

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in seventy three, The Worlds of Jenny Logan in seventy nine,

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Scissors in ninety one. He unfortunately did pass in March

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twenty ninth, twenty sixteen, at age ninety four from dementia.

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Wow Wow. He lived a long time.

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Our writer on the film is JD. Viibelsen. He writer

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and director on The wind Splitter in nineteen seventy one,

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One of the Missing in seventy nine, Twilight Zone in

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eighty five, Darkkna had The Scarecrow in eighty one, of course,

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and then he's a writer of Course in nineteen seventy three,

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or High Dark Knight, The Scarecrow eighty one, Cry for

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the Strangers eighty two, Chiller in eighty five, Convent in

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eighty five, Nightmare on thirteen Floor in nineteen ninety, The

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Lake in nineteen ninety eight, that Yasmin Bleeth movie I've

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always talked about, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and Red

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Water in two thousand and three, the CBS Shark movie

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Yeah Shit, which I think has I think has lou

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Duvin Phillipson. If I'm not mistaken, I mean it better writer.

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Another writer on the film is Butler Hancock. His only

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credit is the story for Darknew The Character in eighty one,

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and then our cinematographer is vincent A. Martinelli. He gets

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a start as camera at Electrical Department for The Fugitive

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in sixty seven. He was assistant camera on that, The

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Invisible Man in seventy five. He is the camera operator

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Hellder Skeleter in seventy three or seventy six.

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Makes sense, I mean it was a TV movie.

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Yeah, camera op on that in Shadow Chase in eighty five.

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He doesn't get his director of photography credit until seventy

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six with Gemini Man, followed by writing with Death in

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seventy six, Quincymme in seventy seven, Bionic Woman in seventy seven,

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Man Drake in seventy nine, Samurai in seventy nine, The

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Amazing Spider Man in seventy eight, Spider Man The Dragons

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Challenge in seventy nine, Captain America two, Death Too Soon

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in seventy nine, The Seekers in seventy nine, Incredible Hulk

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in nineteen eighty, Race of the Wind in nineteen eighty,

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Enos in eighty one, Dark Knight, The Scarecrow in eighty one,

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The Quest in eighty two, Whiz Kids in eighty four,

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Amazing Stories in eighty seven, Simon and Simon in eighty three,

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and Major Dad in eighty nine. He unfortunately passed March

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fifth of twenty ten, at age seventy six. No death listed,

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No death cause listed.

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Well, that usually means natural cause, natural causes.

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Well, there's unfortunately gonna go ahead and preface this episode. Unfortunately,

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with this film, not a lot of people left alive

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who worked on it or were in it.

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Well except the writer, Yeah, the writers. So, ellies, you

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made a sequel to.

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People basically from what I could tell from what I

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said as well.

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Well, most of the characters are older in the film

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and it's eighty one, yeah, so which was a long

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time ago.

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Well, perfect example, Like when I give our cast here

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in a little bit, none of them are alive.

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Anymore, even the little girl.

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Well, I'm saying the ones that I name.

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Oh yeah, I forget. Remember we found out recently Dave

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doesn't consider women a part of projects.

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Shut the fuck up? What tagline's photography. Taglines for the

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00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:11.640
film include the original classic what has this girl done

475
00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:12.200
in the drive?

476
00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:12.559
Is that?

477
00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:14.880
What has this girl done that is driving the town mad?

478
00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:17.079
What is the terrible act people are about to commit?

479
00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:18.920
And who is the only person who can save her?

480
00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.599
That sounds like such a tagline from a newspaper back

481
00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:23.039
in the day.

482
00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:26.039
Other tagline and all new chiller for Halloween.

483
00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:28.079
That yeah, definitely makes sense.

484
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:31.200
And last, there is other justice besides the law.

485
00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:35.079
Well, this is a TV movie, so it didn't have

486
00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:40.680
like traditional posters or traditional marketing. It would have had commercials. Yeah,

487
00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:42.519
tons and tons of commercials.

488
00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:46.680
Ib synopsis says, in a small southern town, four vigilantes

489
00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:49.240
wrongfully execute a mentally challenged man, but after the court

490
00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:51.920
sets them free, mysterious accidents begin to kill them off

491
00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:52.680
one by one.

492
00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.279
It's pretty that's a pretty solid description my synopsis.

493
00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:58.960
When four vigilantes who wrongfully kill a mentally challenged man

494
00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:00.759
are set free by the courts, all four men to

495
00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:02.880
begin to find themselves being picked off one by one.

496
00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:03.920
In strange accidents.

497
00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.640
That was basically the exact thing. Okay, well, I mean,

498
00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:09.319
you can't get much more accurate than that. It's not

499
00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:10.920
a complicated film. It's not.

500
00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:23.759
Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, Welcome back

501
00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:25.039
to Do You Even?

502
00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:27.640
Movie.

503
00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:33.319
The cast includes Charles Dirning, who plays Otis Hazelrig in

504
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:35.799
it two hundred and seventeen credits on his resume. By

505
00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:38.400
the way, I believe that, so Dirting gets to start

506
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:40.799
in nineteen fifty three with You Are There, The Defenders

507
00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:44.880
in sixty three, yp NYPD in sixty seven, Hi Mom

508
00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:47.799
in nineteen seventy, The Pursuit of Happiness seventy one, Sisters

509
00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:50.519
in seventy two, The Sting at Dog Day, Afternoon, Break

510
00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:53.400
Heart Pass, The Choir Boys, The Fury in seventy eight,

511
00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:55.720
The Muppet Movie in seventy nine, When a Stranger Calls

512
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:58.759
at seventy nine as well, okay, The Final Countdown in

513
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:01.240
nineteen eighty, True Confession in eighty one, Dark Knight, The

514
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:04.920
Scarecrow eighty one, Sharky's Machine in eighty one, Best Little

515
00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:08.200
Whorehouse in Texas in eighty two, Toutsy in eighty two, Scarface,

516
00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.680
Death of a Salesman stand Alone in eighty five. Oh, okay,

517
00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:13.519
that movie that we watched where he's the badass.

518
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:15.960
Oh I love that movie. That is the most that

519
00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:20.960
that morbidly obese old man just slaughters everybody. Oh yeah,

520
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.359
no problem o. And he's the hero.

521
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:24.720
He's the hero. He literally says at one point, I

522
00:24:24.759 --> 00:24:25.200
am death.

523
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.039
Yeah no he uh and he sure was here was

524
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:30.079
that movie was nuts.

525
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.759
Amazing Stories in eighty five, Cop in eighty eight, Dick

526
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:35.160
Tracy in nineteen ninety, When a Stranger Calls Back in

527
00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:38.680
ninety three, Houtsucker Proxy in ninety four, IQ in ninety four,

528
00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.119
The Last Supper in ninety five, Home for the Holidays

529
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:43.480
in ninety five, A Brother, We're Art thou Styton, Maine

530
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.400
in two thousand. He unfortunately passed in December twenty fourth

531
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:48.720
of twenty twelve natural causes at eighty nine.

532
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:50.960
I lived a long life, Yeah he did.

533
00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:53.559
Moving on down to our list. Lane Smith, who plays

534
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:55.880
Harless Hawker in the film one hundred and twenty two credits.

535
00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:00.480
They are definitely a This movie is like a soup

536
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:02.880
de jore of character actors of that era.

537
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.759
Absolutely gets his start in sixty six with an Holy

538
00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:09.119
Matrimony Kojack in seventy five, Rooster Cogburn in seventy five,

539
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:11.759
Network in seventy six, The Bad News Bears and Breaking

540
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.759
Training in seventy seven, Blue Collar in seventy eight, The

541
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.440
Rockford Files, Over the Edge, Prince of the City in

542
00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:20.759
eighty one, Dark Knight of the Scarecrow, Purple Heart, Red Dawn,

543
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:24.920
Amazing Stories, Twilight Zone, Prison in eighty seven, Night Game,

544
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:28.200
Air America, My Cousin Vinie in ninety two, Of Course,

545
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:32.279
Ah Dientical, The Mighty Ducks in ninety two, Son in

546
00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:34.559
Law ninety three, The War at Home in ninety six.

547
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:36.960
Yes, that's where I remember him the most is from

548
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.599
the War at Home. He is like that, you old fart,

549
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:40.440
old fart.

550
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:43.400
Won't you cut your damn self? You'll fart Walker Texas

551
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.160
Ranger in nineteen ninety nine, King of the Hill in

552
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.920
two thousand. Lane Smith unfortunately passed away June thirteenth, two

553
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.599
thousand and five, at age sixty nine lateral sclerosis.

554
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:53.920
Ouch yeah, and.

555
00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:56.279
Moving on down is Larry Drake, who plays Bubba in

556
00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.400
the film. He gets his start in nineteen seventy one

557
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:00.680
with The Stuff Will Kill You Date with Kidnapper in

558
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.839
seventy six, Battlecreek Brawl in nineteen eighty, Dark Knight, The

559
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.839
Scarecrow eighty one, The Karate Kid in eighty four, Hunter

560
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:09.279
in eighty seven, wherew Wolf the TV series in eighty eight,

561
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:12.279
Tails from the Crip at eighty nine, Dark Man, Doctor Giggles,

562
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.519
La Law, and dark Man two, The Return of Durant,

563
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:18.920
Outer Limits, The Beast Bean, Batman, Beyond Star, Trek, Voyager,

564
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:23.400
American Pie two, Six Feet Under, Firefly, Seventh, Heaven, Boston Legal,

565
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.599
and Dead Air in two thousand and nine. We unfortunately

566
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:28.839
lost Larry Drake in twenty sixteen March seventeenth, at age

567
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:30.240
sixty seven to blood cancer.

568
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.640
Yeah, he passed away out that long ago. He was

569
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:37.880
pretty much royalty and hit to meet him, Huh did

570
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:39.319
you ever get to meet him? No? I did not.

571
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:41.960
I got to meet him. I want to say it

572
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:43.799
would have had to have been like twenty thirteen or

573
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:45.559
twenty fourteen. I think at Days of the Dead. He

574
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.519
saw my Doctor Giggles and very nice guy. I was

575
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:50.200
really happy to talk to him and talked him about

576
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:51.759
dark Man and Doctor Giggles and it was a lot

577
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:53.359
of fun just chatting him up.

578
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:55.559
I've never heard a negative thing about him. Yeah, and

579
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:58.319
I'll never I'll never be able to separate him from

580
00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:00.160
Durant Robert G.

581
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.839
Durant at this time. Dark Knight of the Scarecrow is

582
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:08.440
currently available on AMC Plus, Peacock, Pluto, Roku, Chub and

583
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.599
also available on Blu Ray from VCI I think. Also,

584
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:13.200
did it get a four K or is it getting

585
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:13.920
a four K soon?

586
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:16.640
I don't know. And it was also on shutter Yes,

587
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:17.799
we literally watched it.

588
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:19.839
Yeah, that's AMC plus.

589
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:21.279
They're not always the same.

590
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:22.680
They are on IMDb apparently.

591
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:24.480
Well, I'm just telling you they're not always the same.

592
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.759
First time watching the film, what was it like for you, sir?

593
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:31.119
Well, I had heard about it many, many times from

594
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.720
my buddy Andy. He loved Dark Knight of the Scarecrow.

595
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:38.680
He would always kind of pontificate about how creepy it was,

596
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.319
how scary it was. And I had dabbled a little

597
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.039
bit in the made for TV horror space with.

598
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:47.799
What was it called Are You in the House Alone?

599
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.680
Are You in the House Alone? Thank you? With that

600
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.119
one and the initiation of Sarah, and I found those

601
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:54.960
to be pretty damn creepy. Now are You in the

602
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.759
House Alone is really not a horror movie in the

603
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:01.799
traditional sense is it's much more a thriller drama about

604
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:05.960
a woman who's abused by popular kids in her neighborhood.

605
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.480
They're all like, you know, uh, seniors in high school

606
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:12.200
and then terrorized for standing up. But it's a made

607
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.440
for TV movie. It's actually kind of much more of

608
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:18.000
an after school special type of thing. So the whole

609
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.079
point of that film spoiler alert, it came off like

610
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:23.000
fifty fucking years ago. But so, I mean, one of

611
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.960
the major points of that film is that she does

612
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:30.640
testify against a powerful guy. Do you remember who it is?

613
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:31.519
Isn't it Quaid?

614
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:32.640
Dennis Quaid.

615
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:34.079
Yeah, it would have been better if it had been

616
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:39.279
Randy Quaid. Dennis Quaid works in a Pinchah. Yeah, he's

617
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:41.559
well and he's supposed to be playing eighteen, so it

618
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.359
makes it makes perfect sense. But that film is very scary,

619
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.759
but it's not, like I said, a traditional horror movie.

620
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.799
It's a it's a drama. It's a torn from the

621
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:56.119
headlines story about bravery and courage, and and very poignant

622
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:58.920
of its time period because it's about women standing up

623
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.680
against powerful men and they harmed them and things like that. Yeah,

624
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:05.839
very good film, fantastic, So with those that I had

625
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:07.720
seen and maybe one or two others, I'm oh in

626
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:12.160
Trilogy of Terror was another one that's famously scary made

627
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.400
for TV movie. When this came out on Blu Ray,

628
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.039
I was like, oh, now is the time, So I

629
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:21.079
snatched it right up the week it came out. And

630
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.960
I remember, because this was so long ago, I didn't

631
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.000
even have a TV in my living room, so I

632
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.680
remember getting cozy in my bedroom after getting off of work,

633
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.079
putting in the disc and watching it, you know, right

634
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.799
next to my big screen TV, and just being so

635
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:43.319
deeply creeped out by the atmosphere of the film. The

636
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:47.359
way it's shot is truly wonderful. I'm honestly shocked that

637
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.920
the director of photography didn't have for lack of a

638
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.160
better way of putting it, more artful stuff. He mostly

639
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:57.079
did TV. Well, he was damn good. Yeah, because this film,

640
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:01.039
especially now being able to watch it fully remastered on

641
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:05.319
thirty five millimeter film, it's shocking how good it looks.

642
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:09.920
It looks incredible, and how deep and rich the photography is.

643
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:14.400
Because it was scanned to probably if it was eighty one,

644
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:21.319
it was probably not pneumatic but basically one inch tape,

645
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.400
and it would not have looked amazing. It would have

646
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:28.720
looked probably good, though it probably would have looked grainy

647
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:34.720
and weird and eerie. But man, I just I remember

648
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:36.720
when it was over and I was kind of chilled,

649
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.200
and I was like, man, that was really creepy. All

650
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:41.720
I could think was like, my god, if I had

651
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:46.200
been like seven years old and my family were like, well,

652
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:50.039
let's gather around the TV set there, spooky movie for Halloween.

653
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:55.480
And then it was that roof because the film goes

654
00:30:55.559 --> 00:31:00.200
from from being very slice of life to brutal to

655
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:05.839
kind of ghastly and then kind of dreamy. Yeah, it

656
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:09.480
really bounces around in a very interesting way that definitely

657
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.799
left me going damn, no wonder people like to say

658
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:17.000
this film scarred traumatized them. Yeah, yeah, no wonder. Yeah.

659
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:18.279
So but what about you, David?

660
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:20.519
So this was kind of, like I said earlier, this

661
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:22.839
was like a white whale due to its popularity, but

662
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.960
it was not very readily available. So when that Blu

663
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.559
Ray DVD came out in twenty ten, I believe that

664
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.119
my uncle had burned me a copy of it, and

665
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:32.559
that was the first time I actually got to see

666
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.920
it was it was in how the annual Halloween package

667
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:39.440
you would share me okay or send me and I again,

668
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:41.559
like I popped it in not knowing what to expect.

669
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.880
I was kind of looking forward to it, but also

670
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.240
was prepared for it to not be as great as

671
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.599
people had told me. Wow, I know I was a

672
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:51.599
little shit back then. It's fine back.

673
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:52.160
Then, shut up.

674
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:57.240
So obviously blue oul expectations away. It was really it

675
00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.599
had really like scary parts to it. I love the

676
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.839
theme to with the music in it is really eerie. Yeah,

677
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.599
definitely even watching it with you and I just now

678
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:08.079
the cinematography in it. Some of the shots of especially

679
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:11.039
some of the attack sequences or the haunting sequences are

680
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:15.000
really really well put to the screen because there's just

681
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.480
certain lighting elements to it and everything. It just it

682
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:20.359
was one of those movies that I immediately knew that,

683
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.400
like this was going to be an October Stable for me.

684
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:24.640
So I was really really happy when I got my

685
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:27.240
own copy. I got to meet J. D. Figelsen when

686
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.599
I got my copy and he signed it actually, So

687
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.519
it's one of those movies that I think you really

688
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.160
have to give it the chance because you will not

689
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:37.880
be disappointed. I don't think at all with it.

690
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.960
Yes, and I wanted to double check. Dark Knight of

691
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.599
the Scarecrow is available in four K as a double

692
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:47.400
feature with Part two, which we'll talk about a little

693
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:51.839
bit later. But it was made recently and it was directed.

694
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.039
It was written and directed by the gentleman who wrote

695
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.599
the original screenplay, who has since regained all of his

696
00:32:57.759 --> 00:32:59.920
rights to write film, which I do think is for

697
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.720
awesome that he was able to do that, even if

698
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.359
the film was okay. But I don't know that. I

699
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.319
don't know how the hell he could have knocked it

700
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:10.680
out of the park when you have a film like

701
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:15.680
Dark Knight of the Scarecrow that not only has great cinematography,

702
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.880
legendary character actors, a pretty damn high budget. I mean,

703
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.519
those TV movies were made for a few million dollars

704
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.799
often because I mean you have to think about back

705
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.160
then when there were only there was only network television.

706
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.759
I mean, it was worth millions of dollars, yeah, to

707
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:35.079
entertain people for two hours. Yeah, because you'd have freaking

708
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:39.079
a third of America watching. So they had everything going

709
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.319
for that first one. And then on top of that

710
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:46.000
nostalgia to make it that much sweeter. Then you have

711
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.119
Part two, which is a B movie.

712
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:48.920
It's fine.

713
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.720
If I remember correctly, it wasn't terrible, But I'm just saying,

714
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.759
like the fact that you have to compare them. Yeah,

715
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:57.359
because it's a sequel, I actually think it might have

716
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.880
been kinder if it was a remake, people would have

717
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.960
been kinder to it. But it's just so hard to

718
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.920
follow and act like that, especially when a film has nostalgia,

719
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.639
because that's something you can't you can't buy it, you

720
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.519
can't plan for it. In fact, one of the things

721
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.199
about Dark Knight of the Scarecrow that I think makes

722
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:18.440
it so effective is it looks even older than it is.

723
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:20.239
Yes, the same thing.

724
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.440
When I think back to it, I never think it's

725
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.039
from the eighties. I always think it's from the mid seventiesventies, Yeah,

726
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.920
but it's not. It's absolutely from nineteen eighty one. So,

727
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.000
and I think that a lot of that has to

728
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.840
do with it taking place in a rural town, with

729
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.119
it having older actors in it who were in themselves

730
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.119
actors from an older era. You have a lot of

731
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:43.400
those elements, and also kind of that small towns have

732
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:47.519
big secrets mentality that was really amping up in the

733
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.920
seventies as a story point, both in books and movies

734
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.760
and TV shows. So, man, I kind of want to

735
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:54.679
buy that four K.

736
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:56.760
For twenty three bucks. That's not bad.

737
00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.840
You have twenty four dollars after tax. Dave doesn't pay

738
00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:00.400
us taxes.

739
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.199
Shut up? So but no, I think honestly too. What

740
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.880
what really caught my attention with Darknight Scarecrow was just

741
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.880
seeing Charles Derning play a bad guy because I was

742
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.079
used to it. Not M not doing that.

743
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:13.599
See, and I mentioned to you earlier like I have

744
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.480
the opposite because I first really recognized him from Dark

745
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:19.679
Knight the Scarecrow. So when he would pop up and

746
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.440
be the kindly old man down the road, I'd be like, oh,

747
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:23.800
trust killed Bubba.

748
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.079
Yeah, so but Bubba didn't do it.

749
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:27.159
But Bubba didn't do it.

750
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:28.559
So you ready to get into it?

751
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.559
Why the hell not? All right?

752
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:33.440
So we open as we are in a nice field

753
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.239
and we meet Bubba who is playing with the little

754
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.679
girl Mary Lee in the field. They're picking flowers, they're

755
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.719
singing songs. It's a nice day out.

756
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:44.599
It's actually like fucking beautiful. Oh they're in a field

757
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.000
full of flowers. Yeah, And bubba is what we might

758
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:55.599
call touch. Yes, that's that's the word. That word, that's

759
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:57.360
the word my mama would have used when I was

760
00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:57.920
a young boy.

761
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.000
Yeah.

762
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:11.199
Do you even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back

763
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.360
to Do You Even movie?

764
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:18.880
He is slow.

765
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:21.599
We learned he's thirty six, Yeah, which.

766
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.880
I'm thirty eight. Look have you looked at those photos

767
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.639
where people say, like, here are eighteen year olds in

768
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:33.039
nineteen eighty one and they look like they're thirty five. Yeah,

769
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:34.880
there's a little bit of that and a little bit

770
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:36.679
of I'm sure he was older than that, Yeah, and

771
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.280
a little bit of Larry Drake is an odd looking guy.

772
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:42.480
He is so but he's perfect for this role because

773
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.400
one thing I think Larry Drake can do very well

774
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.760
is kind of like Michael Berryman. Although Michael Berryman from

775
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.519
the Hills have eyes, he has a skin condition where

776
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.599
he has no hair and no fingernails, and his head

777
00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:00.360
is kind of an odd shape. They can both they

778
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.679
both look off putting. Larry Drake obviously more like just

779
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:05.840
kind of because he has big teeth, big eyes, you know,

780
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:09.360
kind of whatever. And they can both completely disarm you

781
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.320
with how they speak. They can both come off as

782
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:16.719
extremely tender if they want to. If they're an actor,

783
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:20.000
they're acting. So when you see them in a role

784
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.000
like you don't see Larry Drake get to be tender

785
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.599
very often. And when he starts talking to this little

786
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.480
girl and she makes him a lay out of flowers,

787
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.159
but then when she wants to put when she gives

788
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:32.440
it to him, she says, you have to get a

789
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.639
kiss because that is the law in Hawaii. You get

790
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.239
to kiss on the cheek with your lay. And he's like,

791
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.079
oh no, no, but it's not. It's in no way

792
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:46.320
creepy or adult. It literally is like a little boy

793
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.079
who's a little afraid of girl.

794
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:50.519
It's perfect.

795
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.159
It's it's really truly perfect. And him sitting there in

796
00:37:54.199 --> 00:38:00.159
his overalls just being a big country kid. It's it's

797
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.480
it's really a gorgeous moment.

798
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.960
It's a great introduction to the character and well to

799
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.159
both characters. Honestly. Yeah, you see that they're the best

800
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.760
of friends. And even though there's the there's the difference

801
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.360
in between the two that there is, there's nothing weird

802
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.320
between them there. It's all wholesome and and really cute.

803
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.079
Yeah, and and also sad because this is his only friend.

804
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.480
And yeah, one day she'll grow up like probably all

805
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.280
of his friends. Yeah, you know, unfortunately, but but you know,

806
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.800
it's I could get very sentimental very quickly. Gotcha, Oh

807
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:31.960
do you? So?

808
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.119
We also see that otis played by Charles Derning, is

809
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.679
across the field watching them with binoculars and he does

810
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:38.760
not like what he is seeing.

811
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:43.280
No, he does not. He is positive that Bubba is

812
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.400
a is A is a. I was gonna say pedophile,

813
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:48.840
but but I think better word would be pervert.

814
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:49.199
Pervert.

815
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:53.039
Yeah, he feels like and and there's a whole subtext

816
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:57.400
where it seems like the reason he thinks Bubba is

817
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.519
a pervert is because he's kind of a pervert. Yeah,

818
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.639
but I think, I really I know, because like the

819
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:04.360
way you react to I said, your eyes got really big.

820
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:06.639
I really think it was subtext though, No, I think

821
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:08.159
it was too. That was one thing I picked up on.

822
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:09.679
We'll get to it later in the movie. We will

823
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.599
talk about it. But there's like two instances where it's mentioned,

824
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.719
like where people are just like, ah, you know, why

825
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.119
are you so concerned and everything?

826
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:18.039
Yeah? Why do you care so much about all this?

827
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.639
And I and I think that that's you know, because

828
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.840
there's a lot of what I like to call ghastliness,

829
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.880
which is when when, especially in older movies, we don't

830
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:30.119
get this as much now. But Poe was really big

831
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.360
on the ghastly element of horror, the idea that, like,

832
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:39.440
after you've killed someone, there's this thick dread and guilt

833
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:44.199
that just permeates everything. Yeah, this movie has lots of

834
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.920
that life. I love to call it ghastly horror because

835
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.199
it's it's a reality of the crime, and we don't

836
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.480
get that a lot in modern stuff anymore. It's a

837
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.480
little bit like we're too desensitized. We have way too

838
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:57.119
much out and out murder.

839
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.840
And one thing I love about this movie in particular

840
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.199
is the small town vibe to it, because that makes

841
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.719
everybody know everybody. Yeah, there's no secrets, even when there's

842
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:06.440
a big one.

843
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:10.320
Yeah no, exactly, Well there are really no secrets, which

844
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.360
plays into later why they don't even know who to

845
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.079
think is coming after them.

846
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:15.559
Yeah.

847
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:21.760
So anyway, I digress, but the characterizations are really good here. Also.

848
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.159
It falls into that trope of having three or four

849
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.559
guys who commit a heinous crime and having like the

850
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.440
one who keeps everyone in line and the one who's

851
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:33.880
scared they're gonna get caught, and the one who was

852
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:35.360
never really on board to begin with.

853
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:35.840
Nope.

854
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.320
So we see otis driving to town and he is

855
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.480
talking to Harris Harless Hawker, who is his buddy, and

856
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.480
he's basically saying that they need to do something about

857
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:47.280
Bubba because he's hanging out with the Mary Lee girl.

858
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.400
He's no good. You know, we need to do something

859
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:51.280
about it. And Harles says that he can kick him

860
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.159
around little bit and scare him, but that's really about

861
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:54.840
where he's comfortable leaving it at.

862
00:40:55.119 --> 00:41:01.760
Yeah. Yeah, and again you know that's that's country living.

863
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.280
We can bully the mentally challenged kid, but we can't

864
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:05.880
can't do it like hurt him.

865
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.239
Yeah. So we see Bubba and mary Lee walking home

866
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:09.960
from a field and she catches sight that one of

867
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:11.639
the neighbors has a new fountain in their yard as

868
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:13.519
she's peeking through a fence and she's like, you know,

869
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.119
well we should go look at it, and Bubba's like,

870
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:17.280
oh no, no, I don't want to go. She realizes that

871
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:18.800
one of the boards is loose, so she goes over

872
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.519
to the fence and she's like, okay, well you stay here.

873
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.599
I'm just gonna go play in the fountain. So Bubba

874
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.079
watches her play in the fountain for a little bit,

875
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:27.360
and then a dog comes out and it is snarling,

876
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.559
it is growling, and it wastes no time going after her.

877
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.719
Yeah, well, she's in his yard. Yeah so, and Bubba

878
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.800
doesn't know what to do, so he busts through the fence,

879
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:39.480
bust through the fence to rescue her from this mean dog.

880
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:41.320
And we don't see what's going on. We just hear

881
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.599
the biting, we hear her screaming, and we saw Bubba

882
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.239
break through the fence, and that's the last of it. Yes, yes,

883
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:49.079
so then so that's when we cut to a woman

884
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.400
in the kitchen. She's going about and she hears a

885
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:52.880
knock on her door. She answered the door, and we

886
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:54.639
find out this is Mary Lee's mother, because on the

887
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.079
other side of the door is Bubba holding a lifeless

888
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.000
body of Mary Lee. That's bloody. He's bloody to you.

889
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.639
And all he is doing is saying tearfully, Bubba didn't

890
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:02.880
do it.

891
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:08.159
Yeah. Well, and and he's not very verbal. No's that's

892
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:11.000
something I glossed over when I was going on and

893
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.800
on about their interactions. Yeah, but he could basically say

894
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:17.679
like no and yes and maybe like a couple of

895
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:19.679
other things. But he's not extremely verbal.

896
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:21.639
No, he can do about like five words each sends.

897
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:22.760
It feels like yeah, yeah.

898
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.320
He's not super verbal. So him saying Bubba didn't do

899
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:27.199
it is the best he's got.

900
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:27.880
Yeah.

901
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.440
So Harless rushes to the post office tell Otis about

902
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.000
the incident, and Otis is like, I told you, I

903
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.039
told you this is gonna happen. So he wastes no time.

904
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.199
He closes up his office, he grabs his pistol, and

905
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.199
he tells Harris to get the dogs and the guns

906
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.719
because we are going after Bubba. So we see a

907
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:43.360
mob assemble as they drive out to Bubba's and we've

908
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.760
got his buddy Skeeter, his buddy Philby and Harless with them,

909
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:48.599
and they are all armed, and they got their dogs

910
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:50.559
and they're ready to basically get blood.

911
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.039
At this point, I gotta ask your parents at some point,

912
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:54.639
why the hell they didn't name you Skeeter.

913
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:57.599
I always think of Doug's friend.

914
00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.840
All we all need a buddy named Skeeter.

915
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:00.960
Is this that the fact?

916
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:01.599
Yes?

917
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.079
So we also see Bubba racing home through the field

918
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.079
at this point, So the mob's closing on him. Bubba

919
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.119
makes it to his MoMA's door and she answers it

920
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.360
and she's trying to console him, but of course he's hysteric.

921
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:12.400
You know, I didn't do it, and you know, as

922
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.079
as Enrique said, he's not very verbal, but he's hysteric

923
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.199
at this point in trying to basically say that he's innocent,

924
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:19.440
and his mom one hundred percent of believes him because

925
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:20.360
she knows her son well.

926
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:22.440
She knows that he's a delicate person. He would never

927
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:23.039
hurt anything.

928
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.599
Yeah, So she tells him that he's a good boy

929
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:27.440
and no one's going to hurt him, and that they're

930
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.639
going to play the hiding game, just like last time.

931
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.079
Which also suggests why his first words were, Bubba didn't

932
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.920
do it. Yeah, because he's clearly been a scapegoat for

933
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:43.480
the town's ills. Yeah, because people have come looking for

934
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:47.760
him before. Yeah, and she had, you know, he had

935
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:49.679
a special hiding place that no one was able to

936
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:53.599
find him. And it's kind of brilliant, it really is.

937
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.880
So anyway, so Bubba remembers and he says that he

938
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:58.679
can he can hide, he can play it real good.

939
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:00.800
Otis goes to call for Bubba as he arrives up

940
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.800
front of his house, and that's when Miss Ritter emerges

941
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:04.159
and she's, you know, like, what do you do on

942
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.519
my property? And Otis tells him it's official business, and

943
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.480
she states that he wouldn't hurt anybody, especially children, because

944
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:11.840
he's no older in his head. She also adds that

945
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:13.719
he isn't here, and Otis is like, I don't know

946
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.679
if I believe you, Like, let's see what the dogs say.

947
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.039
And the dogs, you know, they start picking up a

948
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.599
cent and Otis warns her that she's obstructing justice, but

949
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.880
she argues it's her property as she slams the door.

950
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:26.639
And he's not a cup, he's a fucking post Yeah,

951
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:28.400
he's a goddamn postal worker.

952
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:30.960
So the dog's vick was sent and they head towards

953
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.199
the field and they wonder out to a lone scarecrow,

954
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.039
and Otis believes the dogs are mistaken until he approaches

955
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.480
the scarecrow and the camera being brilliant in its movement.

956
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.360
At first, we see nothing in the eyes. It's black,

957
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.159
there's nothing behind the eyes. And then as Otis gets closer,

958
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:46.920
Bubba is clearly behind the mask.

959
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.400
Yeah, we see him looking terrified, shaking because he's holding

960
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.840
his breath. Yeah, eyes super wide. It's one of the

961
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:56.599
most memorable images of the entire film, and it's in

962
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.639
the first like six or seven minutes. Yeah, it's so

963
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.079
scary because then we realized, like, of course, no one

964
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.039
ever found him before, because he was hiding inside of

965
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:08.639
a scarecrow. Yeah, which is a brilliant move, especially for

966
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:10.800
someone who has the mind of a child. Yeah, to

967
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:12.360
go hide in a scarecrow.

968
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:13.119
And it's a creepy look a scarecrow?

969
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.440
Mind you too, what's a scarecrow you've seen that was

970
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.519
either not scary or even sexy?

971
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:19.239
The Wizard of Buzz.

972
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:26.840
The speed at which you answered that makes me proud

973
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:32.920
and worried. Worried. Yeah, give me your car keys. You're

974
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:34.480
not driving out of here like this.

975
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.199
I live in Troy. There's too bid of scarecrows. Don't

976
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:37.639
worry about it.

977
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.840
I'm married. I'm married. Why is he yelling I'm married

978
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.320
at that scarecrow? Joy, Just go back to your own business.

979
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:48.639
That's just the denoyer.

980
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:50.880
Boy, God, I need to revisit Pearl. It's been a while.

981
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.840
So the men draw their weapons as Otis takes aim

982
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.480
at first he fires the first shot, and then they

983
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.119
fire along with him, and we also find out that

984
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.079
they've end up firing twenty one shots.

985
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:04.000
Yeah, it's straight up at twenty or twenty one, twenty one,

986
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.440
it's straight up. A firing squad is taught. He is

987
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:12.320
up on a cross basically, and he's just getting blasted away.

988
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.679
And after they've shot him to death, they get a

989
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:22.599
call over his radio. Yeah yeah, and find out that

990
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.079
the little girl is not dead. But they had said

991
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.840
flat there like she's dead, she's dead. He brought her

992
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.159
dead body over. They find out not only is she

993
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.320
not dead, she is alive, awake and telling everybody that

994
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:39.440
Bubba saved her life. And this is the first ghastly

995
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:44.039
moment of the film. It's that moment where they all

996
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:47.599
look at each other because they realize that what they

997
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:53.320
did was just murder. Yeah, And of course our main

998
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:58.559
antagonists are our mailman, Our happy go lucky mailman is

999
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.039
arden that they still did the right thing, because like,

1000
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:03.840
even if he didn't hurt her, he would have one

1001
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.760
day or he already has hurt kids or something. So

1002
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:12.639
he concocts a plan to set him up that is

1003
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:18.079
so stupid, so thin, so well, nothing about him is thin.

1004
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.639
So I felt so bad for that little car he

1005
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.920
was driving around when he when he would get out

1006
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:26.559
of it, I was like, damn, those shocks are good.

1007
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.920
Must have been made in Detroit City. So uh, oh,

1008
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.960
come on. He was a funny. He was a great actor,

1009
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:37.679
and he's perfect in this role. He decides to put

1010
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:41.440
a pitchfork in Bubba's dead hands.

1011
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:42.920
But he can't get it. He can't get the hands

1012
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:43.400
to hold it too.

1013
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:44.800
It's almost like he's dead. Weird.

1014
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:46.639
Uh.

1015
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.760
They they get him to basically hold this this pitchfork

1016
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.159
so that they can suggest that Bubba, who had no

1017
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.599
history of violence whatsoever, Yeah, came at them with a

1018
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:01.239
pitchfork and they were just at four men with guns

1019
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.079
self defense on his own property, self defense, and that

1020
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:11.920
they had to unload on him. I mean, if each

1021
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:15.440
of them had shot him once, yeah, it would be

1022
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:20.639
vaguely believable. Yeah, if each of them had shot him once.

1023
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.920
But they all just unleash the fucking beast on him.

1024
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:24.519
They really do.

1025
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:26.119
It was really gruesome.

1026
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:26.519
Yeah.

1027
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.840
So he puts the damn he puts the damn pitchfork

1028
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.639
on him in the scarecrow outfit and they're like, well,

1029
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:38.039
now the long dick of the law, Well, fuck somebody.

1030
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:41.000
Right then you pointed or then you said the ghastliness.

1031
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:43.519
We start to get a thing that occurs in the town.

1032
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.760
Now a wind is blowing through the town.

1033
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:51.199
Yes, sercely, yes, And the wind becomes symbolic of something

1034
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:55.360
going on. Yeah, which I love that simplicity. Yeah, there's

1035
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.840
there's a wind. Whether we see it or we hear it,

1036
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.760
the wind starts blowing through this town.

1037
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:13.960
Do you even? Movie will be right back, welcome back

1038
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:15.239
to do you Even?

1039
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.159
Movie?

1040
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:24.840
And this next part is super torn from headlines. Oh yeah,

1041
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.280
because you know, we're in eighty one, so we're not

1042
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.559
that far removed from Jim Crow. We're not that far

1043
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:35.119
removed from segregation, and we're not that far removed from

1044
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:40.199
towns that just plane did not protect the rights of

1045
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:46.719
certain citizen individuals. Yes, whether they be black flavor or

1046
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.719
brown flavor or simply gay flavor.

1047
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:51.639
That is also true.

1048
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:53.639
I don't know why I went with flavor, but I

1049
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:55.679
stand by stand by. Hey, you know what.

1050
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:58.480
We cut to a court room where the men are

1051
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.679
on trial, obviously for the murder of Buba. We see

1052
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.239
Otises on the stand as the prosecutor argues that they

1053
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:05.719
were vigilantes, they were men that had no right, and

1054
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.639
the defense throws the pitchwork down, arguing that Bubba was armed.

1055
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:14.000
Bubba was armed on his own property.

1056
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:14.440
Yep.

1057
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.519
The price prosecutor states that Bubba might as well have

1058
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:19.920
had a feather duster against the mob. Otis lies and

1059
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.159
says that they did everything they could to not hurt him,

1060
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:24.440
but they had to defend themselves, and the prosecutor states

1061
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:27.360
that Bubba had twenty one bullet wounds in him. The

1062
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.360
judge then calls the counsel to the stand and tells

1063
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:31.960
them the dude to no evidence or witnesses from the prosecution,

1064
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:33.639
he's ruling in favor of the.

1065
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:40.239
Men and the I want to laugh, but I really

1066
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:44.639
know that this is based on something well on many

1067
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:49.159
yeah stories of these little towns protecting their own and

1068
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.960
having no problem hurting people that they deem outsiders. Yeah,

1069
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:58.840
and Bubba's mom's reaction to this kangaroo court is really

1070
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.239
really sad. But I love one of my favorite characters

1071
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:06.000
who's not even in the movie this much, is the

1072
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:11.039
prosecutor because he is literally just straight up like, you

1073
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:15.599
guys killed him. You guys murdered a mentally challenged man

1074
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.079
on purpose. And when they're when they're all getting ready

1075
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:20.920
to leave, and he basically tells them like, if I

1076
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.960
find one shred of evidence, you're all going to death.

1077
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:24.960
Row, death row, death row.

1078
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.599
It's happening, which I thought was just like damn, Like

1079
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.360
he is, he is lit up. Of course, the guys

1080
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:33.039
have are just kind of like eh, yeah. And at

1081
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.519
one point he's looking at his watch, and that's one

1082
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.000
of my start one of my favorite lines is he

1083
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.719
looks as watching it. I'm sorry, am I keeping he

1084
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:42.000
He's like, well, I just want to see what time

1085
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:43.960
it is because down at my at the boarding house

1086
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.920
where I live, it's fried chicken knut. Yeah, And everybody

1087
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:48.840
kind of laughs. And then we smash cut to them

1088
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:51.000
all drinking at the bar, having a good old time

1089
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:54.480
because these good old boys got away with murder.

1090
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:56.400
And I love this shot because we're not in the bar.

1091
00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:58.599
We are right outside the bar. We see the we

1092
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:00.280
see the exterior of it, and then we just go

1093
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:02.760
down the street and that wind is blowing fiercely, knocking

1094
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:05.800
over trash cans, making all kinds of ruckus and then

1095
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:09.000
we cut over to Mary Lee. We see that her

1096
00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:10.960
mother peeks in on her in her bedroom and she

1097
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:12.960
tells her husband that the past two weeks have frightened

1098
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.280
so much. Also, we find out that mary Lee has

1099
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:16.960
no idea about Bubba's demise yet.

1100
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:20.760
Yeah, she's been on bed rest. Yeah. And unfortunately they

1101
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:24.559
said that she had had no running, no playing, no TikTok,

1102
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.559
no ticks, because otherwise she would have seen people doing

1103
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.840
the Bubba's dead Bubba, the Bubba didn't do it, challengedd.

1104
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:31.559
Damn it.

1105
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:38.519
They're just so frank. Her husband states to tell her

1106
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:44.360
nothing and let it lie. God damnit. And back in

1107
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.519
her room, mary Lee awakens and she's looking out the

1108
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:49.920
window and she calls Bubba. She leaves out of her window.

1109
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:51.679
She leaves out through the window and goes over to

1110
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:54.840
his house, finds his window, knocks on it, calls him again,

1111
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:57.000
but of course there's no answer. So then she enters

1112
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:00.000
her the home and starts walking around, goes up the stage,

1113
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:01.880
and that's when missus Ridder comes out and she's like,

1114
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:03.360
you know, child, what are you doing over here? Like

1115
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:04.920
you're gonna freeze to death? Like, you know, what are

1116
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:06.840
you doing? Let's go down here by the fireplace. And

1117
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.960
that's when mary Lee asks, you know, where's Bubba, and

1118
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:12.320
missus Ridder basically has to break it down to her

1119
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.800
and like the simplest way possible and basically says that

1120
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.559
he's not here. He's not coming back, and mary Lee

1121
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:19.760
is like, okay, well he's probably hiding. I'll go find

1122
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:21.800
him and runs out of the house and she chases

1123
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.039
after him, or chases after her, but you know, it's

1124
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:25.679
no use. So she finds her out in the field

1125
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.119
and she's singing. She's sitting in the spot where they play,

1126
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:30.719
and that's when mary Lee tells her, don't worry, Bubba's

1127
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:32.119
just playing the hiding game.

1128
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:37.800
But something worth mentioning, okay, is this is the first

1129
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:42.679
truly scary scene in the film. I mean before this

1130
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:44.360
we had a lot of suspense, we had a lot

1131
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:49.800
of horror elements. But when she wanders to Bubba's house, Yeah,

1132
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.079
the blue light bathing over everything as the wind is

1133
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:58.280
blowing tree branches around, this is what makes this film work. Yeah,

1134
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:00.719
it is not. It's from nineteen eighty one. It's a

1135
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:03.760
TV movie. TV movies were always kind of old fashioned

1136
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.920
compared to the films and theaters because they were made

1137
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:10.440
for a mass market and generally an older market. I mean,

1138
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:14.360
before Roger Corman basically started making teenage movies, nobody ever

1139
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.679
made movies for young people. Yeah so, and that was

1140
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:21.440
in the sixties. It was so. My point is these

1141
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:26.880
sequences of the farmland bathed in moonlight, the wind blowing,

1142
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.480
the music swelling, a little girl in her nightgown walking

1143
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.000
up to an empty dark house, coming inside the house,

1144
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:39.199
the Bubba's mother finding her all that. It is so creepy.

1145
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:43.320
It is slow paced in what I would say is

1146
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.079
the best possible way. Absolutely it And that's why this

1147
00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.679
film is is is a scary horror movie and why

1148
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:53.599
it's a great Halloween time movie because in my opinion,

1149
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:56.039
the and I think most people would agree. Maybe not

1150
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.199
you because you suck, but uh thanks, No, I mean,

1151
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:01.800
you know, it's it's a important to first rule of comedy.

1152
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:08.159
No Dave sucks. No, But but it's about getting that

1153
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:11.960
Halloween feeling from the atmosphere because you may be sitting

1154
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:13.760
at home, you may have one Jack o' lanner, and

1155
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.760
you may you may not have a Halloween party to

1156
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:18.079
go to. You may not have a haunted hay ride

1157
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.920
to go on, but you can put on John Carpenter's

1158
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:24.039
Halloween and it is Halloween and Haddenfield and you're a

1159
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:26.199
part of it. You can put on Murder Party and

1160
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.679
you are in New York City on Halloween night and

1161
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:30.920
you were stupid enough to show up for the Murder Party.

1162
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:34.440
You can any of these films gives you that. And

1163
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:36.840
it's the exact same thing with Christmas. I could tell

1164
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.280
you some really sad Christmas stories in my life where

1165
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:43.800
the thing that kept me going was Kevin McAllister's Christmas Tree,

1166
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.719
because at least when I watched Home alone, I felt

1167
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:48.440
like I had a Christmas of my own when I

1168
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:52.280
did not have one. So that's kind of my point.

1169
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.880
That's why I personally seek out event films. That's why

1170
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:58.679
at Thanksgiving I want the Thanksgiving movies. At Christmas I

1171
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:00.599
want the Christmas movies, and Halloween I want that Halloween movies.

1172
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:07.920
It's that that element and being in a small, sleepy,

1173
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.239
wheat ridden town in the middle of America in fall

1174
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:20.320
with cold winds and stalks of corn and scarecrows. I mean,

1175
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.800
how much better do you get?

1176
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:23.119
Yeah?

1177
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.639
And then later there's a Halloween party, there's a Halloween,

1178
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:30.320
there's Halloween dance like this is so so good. If

1179
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.440
you haven't seen this film, we haven't spoiled much. So

1180
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.199
if you haven't watched this film yet, stop what you're

1181
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.719
doing and go to t B and watch It's it's

1182
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:41.840
ninety four minutes of your life that you will be

1183
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.320
very happy you gave up to a little TV movie

1184
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:50.119
that no one ever forgot anyway, Sorry, I just had

1185
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:50.840
to get that across.

1186
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:52.960
No perfect. So the next morning we see Otis Is

1187
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:54.840
on his mail route. We also see that Philby as

1188
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:57.840
at work at his at his feed silo, and also

1189
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.000
Otis drives out to Harless's house as he's working on

1190
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.360
wood chipper. His wife informs him that they got an

1191
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:04.760
invite to the church's Halloween party, and also asking if

1192
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:06.559
he started planting, and he's like, you know, well no,

1193
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:08.039
I'm working on this, Like why would I be planning.

1194
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:09.800
She's like, well, I didn't know otherwise why you would

1195
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:14.599
plan the scarecrow? And that's when Harlest stops looks out

1196
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.719
into the field and we see a scarecrow in the

1197
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.920
field resembling Bubba. So Harlest races over to the local

1198
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.480
restaurant where he finds Skeeter and Philby enjoying their beers, like,

1199
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.519
they invite him over and he confronts them. He's like,

1200
00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:25.920
you know, what the hell are you guys thinking, like,

1201
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:27.400
you know, that's not funny, and they're like, we have

1202
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:29.440
no idea what you're talking about. And he's like, well,

1203
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:31.320
there's a scarecrow in my yard. And they're like, we

1204
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:33.920
did not do it. So they both deny they had

1205
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:35.480
nothing to do with it. So now we're at the

1206
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.400
boarding house and Otis sits in his room enjoying a drink,

1207
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.079
a small drink, because we find out that he to

1208
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:42.440
the public, he does not drink.

1209
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:46.800
Yes, it seems to me what I gathered from multiple

1210
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:51.599
watchings is that he has this aura of righteousness Hereinus

1211
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:55.159
because he doesn't drink. Mate. I think maybe, if I'm

1212
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:58.159
looking into subtext, maybe he had a drinking problem that

1213
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:00.960
was very public and that's why people have a kind

1214
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:03.159
of an opinion of him. Yeah, so him not drinking

1215
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:05.639
is his way of saving face, being like I don't drink,

1216
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:10.039
but then when he's alone, he's drinking. Or or it

1217
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:14.119
could be that I mean, and maybe you have a

1218
00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:16.599
thought on this, or it could be that I'm completely

1219
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:19.840
overreading and in reality. He's just simply drinking to deal

1220
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:21.360
with the reality of what he did.

1221
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:22.880
That's kind of what I was thinking. But at the

1222
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.719
same time, we are two weeks past it, so I

1223
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:26.599
mean it would still be I.

1224
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:27.880
Mean, how long does you just taking to get over

1225
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:28.280
a murder?

1226
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:30.519
I mean I'm on week like four right now.

1227
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:33.159
Okay, that's not too I mean that's pretty good. You know,

1228
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:35.480
rookie numbers. But you know, you gotta ge those numbers. No,

1229
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.280
get those numbers down. You need to be forgetting about it.

1230
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.480
Three weeks in, man, it needs to be you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1231
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.360
So he's enjoying his drink on his bed and that's

1232
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:44.000
when he gets a knock from the woman who owns

1233
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.239
the boarding house, telling him he has visitors. And we

1234
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:49.079
immediately see that he's uneasy about that, and we find

1235
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.320
out why because he goes downstairs and there's Harless, Skeeter

1236
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:57.239
and Philby and immediately he's like, oh, gentlemen, nice to

1237
00:58:57.239 --> 00:58:59.000
see you. And he's like, you know, Kim, this weight

1238
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:00.639
like I think dinners about to be ready, and they're like,

1239
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:01.800
we need to talk to you right now.

1240
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:04.239
Yeah, And I think one of the reasons he hates

1241
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.840
seeing them is because they remind him of the crime.

1242
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:09.360
Well, I think they're being seen together in general is

1243
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:10.320
not a good idea.

1244
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:12.159
Well, because it reminds people of what they did. But

1245
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:17.079
I also think that there is a degree of guilty

1246
00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:19.960
feels for sure. I think that guilt kind of drives

1247
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:21.480
him to become crazier.

1248
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.079
Yeah, So they go up to his room and that's

1249
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:27.039
when they tell him. But the scarecrow sighting in Harless's pasture,

1250
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:29.159
and Otis suspects that it's Sam, the district attorney, and

1251
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.000
he tells him to keep their lip sealed because this

1252
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:33.159
is probably exactly what Sam wanted, was them all to

1253
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.440
come over here and now it looks guilty by association

1254
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:38.239
and that they are never to return to the boarding

1255
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:39.159
house ever again.

1256
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:45.559
And here's where this becomes a solid TV movie thriller, Yeah,

1257
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:51.800
because now it's a who done it? Or who's doing it? Yeah,

1258
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.159
And that is the kind of thing that keeps shit,

1259
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:57.239
you know, sitting through the commercials for Jello Pudding pops,

1260
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:02.159
and shit is waiting to find out, like is it Bubba,

1261
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:05.880
is it Bubba's ghost? Is it the little girl? Is

1262
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:09.679
it Bubba's mom? Is it the district attorney? Is it someone?

1263
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.280
Is it one of the guys who did it? And

1264
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:17.559
that is what really I think helps this movie hold

1265
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:21.199
tight because it's not a slasher movie in the traditional

1266
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:24.400
sense at all. It is a there is a Gradualno,

1267
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:27.960
there is slashings, yeah, I mean there's knocking off people. Yeah,

1268
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:31.440
I mean there's a it's more of a grinding than

1269
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:37.719
a slashing and a snuffing. But no. And again like

1270
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:41.159
these the murders I would also describe in this film

1271
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.280
are ghastly because they're they're more about the reality of

1272
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:46.320
the death but not witnessing it well.

1273
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:48.400
And being being a TV movie, it's what you don't

1274
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:50.880
see that is scarier for sure.

1275
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.840
So I think that they just hit so many right

1276
01:00:55.039 --> 01:01:00.239
notes with this particular film. I there are there are

1277
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.880
very few things in life that have like a crazed

1278
01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.480
cult following that I get it immediately like this film.

1279
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.320
Like this film, I really understand why people all over

1280
01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.079
America would not let it go. Yeah, because it was

1281
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:16.639
so memorable and so creepy and so well done and

1282
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:22.320
also moral moral. It's extremely moral. It's about righting wrongs

1283
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:26.119
and how justice sometimes is not justice no, so anyway,

1284
01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:27.480
and that would ring true with a lot of people,

1285
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:29.920
especially if they were growing up in the sixties and seventies.

1286
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:31.599
And then watch that film that is also very true

1287
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:31.920
to be Do.

1288
01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:44.480
You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to

1289
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:45.599
Do You Even?

1290
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:47.519
Movie.

1291
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.119
So later that night, Harlest returns home and he's looking

1292
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.280
pre distraught as he takes a swig of his booze.

1293
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:57.440
He wanders out to the field to find the scarecrow

1294
01:01:57.599 --> 01:01:59.880
is no longer at its post. It's just the post now,

1295
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:02.320
so he kicks the pole over and he returns home,

1296
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:04.559
but he stops because he's going into his house. He

1297
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.800
hears machinery fire up in his barn, so he enters

1298
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:09.440
to find that the wood chipper he was working on

1299
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:12.079
is now turned on, so he calls out, suspecting it

1300
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:13.960
to be Sam. And he also hears that something is

1301
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.440
rustling above in the hayloff, so he goes up and

1302
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:18.119
one of the shots that I was talking about earlier,

1303
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.760
this shot here of him going over the ladder and

1304
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.440
just the light or absence of it that's on his

1305
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.280
face that looks like a mask almost.

1306
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:27.679
The light is going as far as I could tell

1307
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:32.320
through the ladder. He's climbing, so he has shadow and

1308
01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:36.119
light as he's moving, so his eyes are sometimes very

1309
01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:40.039
well lit and other times he's bathed in shadow. And

1310
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.800
the fact that he's obviously he's going up a very slowly.

1311
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.400
He's taking his time because he's worried there's someone up there.

1312
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:50.559
He's you know, feeling haunted. And that's the best part

1313
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:54.079
about the scarecrow waiting there, is the scarecrow is haunting them,

1314
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:57.320
Yes he is. But the other thing is, at this juncture,

1315
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:01.440
any one could do that. Anybody could anybody could make

1316
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.840
a scarecrow and put it on your lawn. Yeah, and

1317
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:07.760
I will to you, Yeah you will.

1318
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:08.239
Yeah.

1319
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:10.800
Oh no, you're just gonna You're just gonna make love

1320
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:13.519
to the scarecrow I made with my own two hands.

1321
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.679
So he enters the loft and he grabs a handsighte

1322
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:18.800
because he sees nothing at first, so he slowly approaches

1323
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:20.480
the back of the loft. But as he's doing this,

1324
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:23.320
he's walking along the edge of the loft and suddenly

1325
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:26.440
the wood chipper fires back up. He loses his balance.

1326
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:29.079
He cleans onto a light, but that is no hope

1327
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:31.719
for him, as he plummets right into his wood chipper.

1328
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:34.199
And as he falls in we just see the light

1329
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.199
he was hanging on to to try not to fall in.

1330
01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:39.360
They play this for heavy suspense. Yeah, he doesn't just

1331
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.760
what and go into a wood chipper. He grabs onto

1332
01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:44.159
a hanging light and as he's holding onto it starts

1333
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:46.920
breaking and shooting sparks around. Yeah, and when he finally

1334
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:49.960
drops down, we hear the woodchipper. Hear the wood chipper,

1335
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.440
and we see the light just sitting there, rocking back

1336
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:53.480
and forth a little bit.

1337
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:55.639
And then we cut to the boarding house in the

1338
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:57.719
morning as Jelly is tossed to a plate.

1339
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:01.880
It's not a great edit, it's so good. It's it's

1340
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:05.960
freaking shades of Sam Raimi. Yeah, I mean literally falls

1341
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:09.599
in and then just cherry preserves right on a plate.

1342
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:09.920
Yep.

1343
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:10.280
Uh.

1344
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.880
Otis is enjoying his breakfast at the boarding house. Otis

1345
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:19.719
enjoys every breakfast, So he's enjoying his breakfast at the

1346
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:22.320
boarding house as one of the residents are telling him, oh,

1347
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:23.800
you know, it's been a it's been a crazy morning

1348
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.480
so far, Like the sheriff was over there. There's been

1349
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:27.679
some please activity and ambulance and he's like, what's going on.

1350
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:31.400
He's like, oh, well, Harlest fell into his machine, so

1351
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:33.880
he finds out immediately the Harlest is gone now, so

1352
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:35.920
we see the body being loaded into the ambulance or

1353
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:36.559
what's left of it.

1354
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:39.159
Yeah, that was my first thought because it looked like

1355
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:41.519
there was a body shaped thing under the blanket. I

1356
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.199
was like, oh good, they put it in some hefties

1357
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:46.079
and then kind of, you know a little bit.

1358
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.599
It's like that freaking that memes going around or not meme,

1359
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:51.280
but the two guy the how to guide because it's

1360
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:53.679
Halloween time of like putting your milk bottles and everything

1361
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:55.440
together to make like the trash bag body.

1362
01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:58.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a fun way to make your

1363
01:04:58.880 --> 01:04:59.920
garbage bend nervous.

1364
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:03.000
So we see the Otis arrives outside the house and

1365
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:04.960
we also see that this wife is being consoled escorted

1366
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.360
to the DA's car. Otis and Sam also share a

1367
01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:09.480
glance right before he leaves, and then later that night,

1368
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:11.920
Otis speaks to Skeeter and Philby, who are convinced that

1369
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.199
this wasn't an accident. Philby even confirms the scarecrows out

1370
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.159
there last night, and Otis tells them to mine their

1371
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.960
business before they all get caught. Philby then asks who

1372
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.000
turned the machine off then, and Otis states, oh, well,

1373
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:24.400
you know, it's probably ran out of gas, and Philby says, well,

1374
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:27.360
how do you know? Smash cut to them entering the

1375
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:30.280
barn checking the gas to find that it is almost

1376
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:34.559
completely full, confirming that somebody turned off that machine. Otis

1377
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:36.239
adds the same person who turned it.

1378
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:40.360
On, yes again ghastliness. Yeah, and the way that they

1379
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:42.920
test it is by putting the handle of a shovel

1380
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:45.519
into the tank and lifting it up and seeing it

1381
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:49.159
soaking wet, which is a great way to visually show

1382
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:52.800
the audience instead of just saying it, which is really

1383
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:53.360
works great.

1384
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.280
So the next morning, Otis drives out to the Ritter

1385
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:57.960
residence as Mary Lee comes out glaring at him. He

1386
01:05:58.039 --> 01:05:59.800
tries to speak to her, but she runs off, so

1387
01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:02.400
that Otis goes to knock on missus Rider's door and

1388
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:04.880
sneaky little bastard he is, he's off to the side.

1389
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:06.719
I never noticed that. Oh yeah, when he when she

1390
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:09.079
opens the door, he's off to the side and watching it. Yeah.

1391
01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:12.119
Yeah, no, he's he is haunting people as much as

1392
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:14.320
supposedly Bubba. Yeah.

1393
01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:15.639
So he's like, oh, well, you know, I got a

1394
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:17.800
package and needs your signature, so she signs off, but

1395
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:19.440
then he puts his foot in the door, commenting on

1396
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:22.679
how he doesn't believe Harris Harless's demise was an accident,

1397
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.440
and miss Rider confirm comments that there's other justice in

1398
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:27.800
this world. I for an eye, and he says, okay, well,

1399
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.000
if that's the case, the score is settled one for one.

1400
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:32.039
You took one of mine, I took one of yours.

1401
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:34.719
We're done, and she's like, no, we're not.

1402
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:38.400
No, well, and then she grabbed him like in breaking

1403
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:41.280
bats that we're done. We want to say we're done.

1404
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.159
And then she told him she's the one who knocks.

1405
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:46.000
On the knocks, so she warns him to stay away

1406
01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:48.320
from Mary Lee. And later that evening, Philby is closing

1407
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.599
up his feed store. He walks outside and notices that

1408
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:53.280
his hogs are going crazy and as he goes to

1409
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:58.280
the pen. As he goes to the pen, he sees

1410
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.519
the scarecrow is now also in the field across from him,

1411
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:04.960
so he approaches it, quickly, falling to his knees before

1412
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.039
sensing that he is most likely going to be the

1413
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:07.400
next to go.

1414
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:11.840
Well, yeah, I mean I think that's pretty apparent.

1415
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:14.360
Yeah, So we cut to the church Halloween party, where

1416
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:16.440
we find the town is all in their costumes having

1417
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:17.960
a great time. We see mary Lee and some other

1418
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:19.960
kids bobbing for apples and she's like, hey, why don't

1419
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:21.639
we go play hide and seek? And that's when we

1420
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:23.880
see Otis is also watching outside of a window.

1421
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:26.920
He's always watching, He's always He's like Santa Claus. But

1422
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:28.920
now it's just like Santa Claus.

1423
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:31.159
So mary Lee counts for her turn and then she

1424
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:33.880
turns to see who else but otis standing there, and he,

1425
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:35.559
of course is putting on the whole stick of like

1426
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:39.760
I'm the mailman. Everybody knows the mailman, everybody loves the mailman. Yeah,

1427
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:41.880
and that's when he says, you know, he comments on

1428
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.159
her costume, asking if she showed it to missus Ritter,

1429
01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:45.960
because you know that's her friend and you know she

1430
01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:47.880
might be playing a joke on him and his friends,

1431
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:50.880
and maybe she told her what that secret is, and

1432
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:53.400
that he is more than happy to hear that secret,

1433
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.400
and has you know, has her come over. And that's

1434
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:57.960
when she tells him, I know what you did to Bubba.

1435
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:04.719
And he's not supposed to know, no, which suggests somebody Yeah,

1436
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:05.639
is telling.

1437
01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:06.920
I know what you did to Bubba, and I know

1438
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:11.079
that you lied, and Bubba told her everything. Otis questions

1439
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:12.960
if miss Ritchard told her, but mary Lee keeps saying

1440
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.239
that Bubba told her, even confirming that she knows that

1441
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:17.760
he's dead. So mary Lee runs off and as Otis

1442
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:19.760
rounds the corner after her, one of the sheriffs is

1443
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.239
just like, hey, the party's up front.

1444
01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:27.680
Yeah, yeah, they're They're all trying really hard not to

1445
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.399
give him, not to have to deal with him, a

1446
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:31.199
better way to put it.

1447
01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:33.319
So Otis goes back to the party getting some punch

1448
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:34.720
because at first he goes up to the woman and

1449
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:36.319
she's like, oh, you don't drink, So he takes the

1450
01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:38.720
non alcoholic punch at first, does not like it. Then

1451
01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:40.600
he gets the boozy punch, and that's when Philby and

1452
01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:42.840
Skeeter find him, and that's when he tells him about

1453
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.760
the scarecrow. So the three venture out to Philby's field,

1454
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.720
and what do you know, no scarecrow there anymore.

1455
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.079
Not even the pole, not even the pole.

1456
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:52.159
No. So Phillby tells him that it was right there

1457
01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:54.680
and comments on Otis looking at him crazy, and Otis

1458
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:56.159
tells him that they'll come back in the morning, but

1459
01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:58.800
Philby worries he won't have that time. It's gonna come

1460
01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:00.640
for him, and Skeeter states that they go to the police,

1461
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.479
and Otis tells him that'd be a stupid idea if

1462
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:04.239
they want to spend their rest of their life in prison.

1463
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:08.760
M I mean three hots and a cot. That's true,

1464
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:14.239
you know, and substantially, although not none less kill her scarecrows.

1465
01:09:14.359 --> 01:09:16.640
I just imagine. And then you said that, I just imagined,

1466
01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:19.000
just like Larry Drake as Bubba, just in like a

1467
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:20.760
guard uniform, but it's still the scarecrow.

1468
01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:28.239
Yeah, a little stick time from the scarecrow. No, no,

1469
01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:30.079
you just get in there and there's just a gang

1470
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:31.039
run by the tin man.

1471
01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:31.680
Oh my god.

1472
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:33.920
He's like, I understand you fucked with a friend of

1473
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:37.399
mine on the outside. I'm gonna make all your life

1474
01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:38.640
very difficult.

1475
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.760
So later that night, missus Rinder sets by the fire.

1476
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:43.960
She hears some noise that she goes through her kitchen

1477
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:46.279
and shuts her back door before lighting the stove and

1478
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:48.159
putting a kettle on. So she returns to a chair,

1479
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:49.920
and that's what we find out that Otis has snuck

1480
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:51.880
into the house. He covers her mouth, telling her that

1481
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:54.479
he warned her and this is the last warning. He

1482
01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:56.399
tells her it's gonna be an eye for an eye

1483
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:58.920
this time there Even so he uncovers her mouth, she

1484
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.279
lets out a scream, grabs her mouth again, and tells her,

1485
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:04.319
no tricks, We're done. I'll let you go. But as

1486
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:06.720
he stands up and lets her go, we realize that

1487
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:08.800
she has met her own demice and had a heart attack.

1488
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:13.880
He basically scared her to death, and again ghastly horror,

1489
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:17.199
he has that realization he killed this woman. Yeah, but

1490
01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:24.279
because he is built different, instead of bathing in that

1491
01:10:24.279 --> 01:10:27.399
that tragedy, he immediately is like, all right, gott to

1492
01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:28.079
cover up my track.

1493
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:30.640
Well, the kettle scares him, because that's my favorite shot,

1494
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.920
is him. The kettle goes off, So that's when he

1495
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:35.640
takes the tea kettle off the stove, and that's what

1496
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:38.159
he's like, Well, hey, I could just turn this gas on.

1497
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:40.800
There's a roaring fireplace. So he turns the gas on,

1498
01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:43.399
steps out, the car drives away. We see you close

1499
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:45.279
up with the fireplace. The flame's going and then that

1500
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.359
fucking house just explodes.

1501
01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:50.479
It is a hell of an explosion and shut.

1502
01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:54.279
Down production for one day. Oh really schedule, Well it.

1503
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:58.479
Was way too big, but I will say, right, what

1504
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:01.039
a great, great way to tell the It's like, hey,

1505
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.119
don't you leave before the third act? Yeah, like we

1506
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:07.359
got stuff happening. Yeah, because and and things are about

1507
01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:10.239
to get even more scary too. But that explosion is

1508
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:11.800
just hell of massive insane.

1509
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:13.640
So the next morning, we see mary Lee discover the

1510
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:15.840
smoking remnants of Ritter's house as she goes up to

1511
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:18.000
see the police are looking over the wreckage with the

1512
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.359
da Sam, and that's when the cops states that he

1513
01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:22.560
believes it was a gas leak, most likely an accident,

1514
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:24.800
nothing malicious, but Sam request that they look it over

1515
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:26.760
to see if they can find and that's the cops like,

1516
01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:29.960
what are you looking for? And he's like one single shred.

1517
01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:34.319
Yes, and goddamn and this is a great red herring

1518
01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:37.000
moment for the prosecutor. Yeah, because that really makes you

1519
01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:39.800
start to think that maybe he's the one doing it

1520
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:43.039
and and frankly, maybe he is. Yeah, that's kind of

1521
01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:45.239
the thing it could have been. Yeah, and that's the

1522
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:47.359
fun yeah of paranoise.

1523
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:49.840
So Mary Lee sits outside her house singing a song

1524
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:52.479
while we see Philby, Skeeter, and otis all at their jobs.

1525
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:54.840
But later that night Philby is alone at the feed shop.

1526
01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:57.399
He starts to hear his hogs going wild again as

1527
01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:02.279
he euphemism okay, not to investigate, and finds nothing. And

1528
01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:04.720
that's when we hear a sound out by the silo,

1529
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:06.920
so he arms himself with the club. He makes his

1530
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:08.880
way over, and that's when he finds a chain just

1531
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:10.760
blowing in the wind against the silo.

1532
01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:16.880
Which is eerie, yes, to say the least, again bathed

1533
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:23.239
in blue moonlight, when sounds rustling music delicately playing. Yeah,

1534
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:28.760
and most importantly, his facial expressions, the amount of fear

1535
01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:34.960
on his face is so so believable. Yeah, he and

1536
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:36.920
he and he really you buy it. You buy that

1537
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:39.560
he's this good old boy. You buy that. He's this

1538
01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:44.159
honky dory farmer who did something really dark. He's got

1539
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:49.079
some dark secrets, he does, and he is rightfully so

1540
01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:54.199
terrified that those dark secrets are about to come back.

1541
01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:56.880
They are because as the chain makes him laugh a

1542
01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:58.640
little bit, he goes back towards his office. If that's

1543
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:00.640
when he sees somebody in his office off the light,

1544
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.520
so he runs to his car, he cannot get it started.

1545
01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:05.720
He starts getting super scared and clutching his chest, so

1546
01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:08.079
he takes a pill. Then he chars the car again

1547
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:10.039
with no success. So he gets out and decides to

1548
01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:12.239
check the car, but then he sees that somebody is

1549
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:15.600
coming towards him, so he runs into the silo, hiding,

1550
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:18.479
locking himself in. But that does not work for him

1551
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.439
because then the silo turns on as the feed in

1552
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:23.399
the grains starts to pour in on him.

1553
01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:25.000
Yes I think it was feed corn.

1554
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:26.000
Yeah, feed corn.

1555
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:29.479
Starts starts pouring in from the top. And this is,

1556
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:32.039
in my opinion, the most memorable kill in the film,

1557
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:35.600
absolutely because not only because it's terrifying, because for real, like,

1558
01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:37.239
what could you do?

1559
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:38.039
Yeah?

1560
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:41.880
Nothing? No, we never see anyone turning the machines on.

1561
01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.439
We never see anyone holding him in the silo, so

1562
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:48.600
he can't get out. It's all just darkness, and as

1563
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:52.960
it fills, he struggles and struggles, and it just keeps filling,

1564
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.479
and people really do die like that. That can happen,

1565
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:59.079
although silos are far more likely to explode explode because

1566
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:01.319
the dust can be come very very flamma.

1567
01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:06.439
Oh yeah, do you even movie will be right back.

1568
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.359
Welcome back to do you even movie?

1569
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:25.239
As it rises and rises, it's depicted in such a

1570
01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:27.119
hitchcocky and gradual way.

1571
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:28.399
Well, he's got his flashlight too.

1572
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:31.159
Yeah, shines his flashlight around for yeah, exactly, and then

1573
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:34.880
eventually he drops the flashlight and we see his hand

1574
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:36.680
stop doing anything.

1575
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:39.880
Yeah. So he is now suffocated. And the next morning,

1576
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:41.840
Otis goes out to see Skeeter to tell him about

1577
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:45.199
Philby hearing this news, Skeeter just goes hysterical himself, and

1578
01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:47.079
Otis tries to tell him it was an accident, it

1579
01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:48.640
was a heart attack, and he's like, well, which was

1580
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:50.720
it was an accident heart attack? He's like, it was both.

1581
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:52.920
He got scared, he got stuck in the silo, and

1582
01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.119
he had a heart attack. So he also tells Skeeter

1583
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:57.760
not to panic now and that Otis believes it was Bubba,

1584
01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.199
but Skeeter denies it, stating that Bubba's buried, you know,

1585
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:01.960
they killed him, that he's buried in the ground now,

1586
01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:03.720
and Otis asked him to make one deal with them,

1587
01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:05.720
that he can prove it before they go to the police.

1588
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:08.239
So they go to the cemetery that night and they

1589
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:10.880
find Bubba's grave, which they dig up, and that's when

1590
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:13.119
Skeeter is shown to be the last one in the grave.

1591
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.640
As he's digging, they open the coffin and he is

1592
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:17.640
freaked out because Bubba's corpse is still inside.

1593
01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:25.560
Yes, and again ghastly horror. Or there's this awesome shot

1594
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.960
of when he's down looking in there where they're basically

1595
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:33.439
from below looking up through the hole at Otis up

1596
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:37.119
top watching as this guy is digging. Otis is bathed

1597
01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:40.199
in that moonlight and the guy digging has a lantern

1598
01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:41.239
lighting him.

1599
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:43.039
Both of them bathed in durha and Otis is starting

1600
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:44.359
to look really fucking crazy.

1601
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:47.239
Yeah. No, he looks like he's gone completely mad. And

1602
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.920
now that they've confirmed Bubba is dead in the ground,

1603
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:55.279
to them, at least initially, that establishes that this is

1604
01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:58.720
Bubba's ghost, although I think that Otis is really thinking

1605
01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:02.439
more that this is the Dayah, who is one of

1606
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:05.640
the only people they're suspecting that's not mary Y.

1607
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:08.640
Yeah, well and mary Lee, who is literally a child.

1608
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:10.319
The fact that he's like, it could be that little

1609
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:15.600
girl she's like six, yeah, uh so uh yeah, So.

1610
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.600
They opened the they opened the coffin, and Skeeters immediately

1611
01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:20.920
freaked out. He's running. He's gonna tell the cops, you know,

1612
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:22.760
he's he's telling Otis he can't take it anymore. And

1613
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:24.199
that's an Otis Is like, all right, man, He's like,

1614
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:26.720
you know, you win. Let's just get back in the hole.

1615
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:28.920
We'll bury the we'll bury the body, and then we'll

1616
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:31.239
go see the police. So is Skeeter's down there digging,

1617
01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:34.000
that's an Otis picks up his shovel, bashes Skeeter on

1618
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:36.960
the head, and in a beautiful little shot addition, when

1619
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:38.800
he brings his shovel back, Skeeter's.

1620
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:41.239
Hat is attached to the shovel. It stuck to it,

1621
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:44.439
stuck to it. And again I know he keeps saying

1622
01:16:44.439 --> 01:16:46.079
it ghastly.

1623
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:49.119
Horror, raastly horrors. Indeed. So now we are at the

1624
01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:52.199
finale of the film. A drunken Otis is driving home

1625
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.920
and he is weaving all over the road. He's enjoyed

1626
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:57.119
his booze in his little mail car. But then as

1627
01:16:57.119 --> 01:16:58.960
he approaches one section of the road, we see that

1628
01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:01.279
Mary Lee is just alone in the road.

1629
01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:05.079
Just standing there as his headlights are making her glow.

1630
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:08.359
Yeah, so still suspecting her. He goes after her with

1631
01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:10.319
his car. He ends up crashing his car, so he

1632
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.039
gets out. He chases her on foot, and now we

1633
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:14.039
have a chase in a pumpkin patch.

1634
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:18.600
Which what a finale. Yeah, so he's chasing after this

1635
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:23.279
little girl through the pumpkin patch. Again. We've got the

1636
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:27.159
corn stalks, we've got the blue light, we've got the wind,

1637
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:28.920
we've got the pumpkins.

1638
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:30.079
The Fury soundtrack.

1639
01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:35.760
Yeah, it's so halloweeny, it's so fall it's everything you

1640
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:39.239
could ever want. Yeah, from this kind of movie. And

1641
01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:42.399
it's from nineteen eighty one TV film, which is just

1642
01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:45.880
blows my mind. Do they that they check all these boxes?

1643
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:48.439
And again, time has been very kind to this movie.

1644
01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:51.039
It already I think it looked old when it came out,

1645
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:55.880
so it looks extra old now. But I mean he's

1646
01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:01.119
chasing her down classic chase scene. And as he's doing this,

1647
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:05.079
we're still left wondering what's going on.

1648
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:05.800
What's going on?

1649
01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.800
Is it a ghost or is there a person doing it?

1650
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:11.279
Or what? What is what is going on?

1651
01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:14.039
So she is hiding near a is it is a

1652
01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:15.760
combine or a plow because they.

1653
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.680
I'm pretty sure I think that's a combine.

1654
01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:19.840
So she's hiding in a combine.

1655
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:24.000
It has the shreddy shredding. Yeah, I am from the city.

1656
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:26.199
It has the shreddy.

1657
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:29.840
So that is when she's hiding in the in the

1658
01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:31.760
scoop of it, and that's when he finds her. He's

1659
01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:33.520
he's right on top of her, and all of a sudden,

1660
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:34.880
the combine comes to life.

1661
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:37.039
Yes, the lights click on, the.

1662
01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:40.079
Motor cooks on, and that's when he's like, Sam, is

1663
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.760
that you you know I wasn't doing anything, like you know,

1664
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:44.479
we could come on out, we can talk about this.

1665
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.439
The combine starts inching towards him and inching towards him,

1666
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:49.680
and now it's just fucking chasing him through the patch.

1667
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.079
And it's important to remember Otis at this point has

1668
01:18:52.119 --> 01:18:56.199
gone totally mad, insane. He killed his friend, not only

1669
01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:58.159
so that he wouldn't go to the police, but also

1670
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:01.600
out of sheer fear that made it's him, yeah, doing this.

1671
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:05.119
So he is running this combines right behind him, and

1672
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:09.399
then he runs right into the scarecrow, except the scarecrow

1673
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:12.399
is now clutching the pitchfork out out front of it,

1674
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.159
like holding it directly out. Oh yeah, And he runs

1675
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:17.560
right into it, his gut runs right into it. We

1676
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:19.520
see blood on his mouth, we see blood, and he

1677
01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:22.000
just sinks down and dies right there.

1678
01:19:22.039 --> 01:19:25.239
And it's the bloodiest the film's been since the shooting earlier.

1679
01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:25.560
Yeah.

1680
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:28.680
Yeah, so that's when the machine shuts down. We see

1681
01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:30.560
Mary Lee is still hiding in the pumpkin patch and

1682
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:33.960
something starts approaching her, and that's when we see the Scarecrow,

1683
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:38.560
now moving completely, hand her a flower over and she says,

1684
01:19:38.640 --> 01:19:41.800
thank you, Bubba. Tomorrow, I'll teach you a new game.

1685
01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:44.439
Has anyone ever showed you the chasing game? It's just

1686
01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:48.359
like tag. And that is the end of nineteen eighty

1687
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:50.239
one's Dark Eyed of the Scare.

1688
01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:53.600
Well, And the eeriest part of that ending is she

1689
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:56.399
keeps talking for a little bit, like she's talking to

1690
01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:57.199
her friend Bubba.

1691
01:19:57.359 --> 01:19:57.760
Yeah.

1692
01:19:57.800 --> 01:20:00.760
As the music builds up, swell the trail and the

1693
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:07.800
and the credits go, and what a blood chilling ending.

1694
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.439
The freeze frame on the flower that he's handing to her,

1695
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:12.399
because that's the frees frame. Is their hands touching?

1696
01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:17.159
Yeah, oh god, so, and it's gloved hand. It suggests

1697
01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:20.399
that very likely this is Bubba's ghost. Yeah, but there's

1698
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:24.560
still a possibility that it could be someone pretending to

1699
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:26.079
be the Scarecrow.

1700
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:28.960
I kind of interpreted it as Mary Lee was the

1701
01:20:29.159 --> 01:20:32.319
was the one behind it, because that was a game

1702
01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:32.960
she was playing.

1703
01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.800
She Oh, but you mean that she got Bubba's ghost

1704
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:37.319
to kill them?

1705
01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:37.760
Oh?

1706
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:39.359
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a fair I think that's

1707
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:40.880
a fair assessment. Yeah. For a second, I thought you

1708
01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:42.439
were like, it's all in her head, she was doing

1709
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:42.920
all the killing.

1710
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:43.239
No.

1711
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:45.000
No, she faked getting mulled by that dog.

1712
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:48.520
So shit. She was playing four D chess when we

1713
01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:49.920
were playing two D checkers.

1714
01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:52.319
So would you would you like to know some fun

1715
01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:53.119
things about the film?

1716
01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:55.119
No, Dave, you just blew my mind. You can't just

1717
01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:59.520
walk past that and and leave me in the dust. Geez,

1718
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:03.000
that's what you just did. No, I would love to

1719
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:05.279
know some stuff about Dark Knight of the Scarecrow.

1720
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:08.439
So it was filmed in Peru, California, shot in seventeen days,

1721
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:11.319
originally supposed to Oh what did I say?

1722
01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:12.239
You said Peru?

1723
01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:13.039
Is it Peru?

1724
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:14.199
Piru?

1725
01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:14.800
Piru?

1726
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:18.399
How many times have you watched Silent Night Deadly Night three?

1727
01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:19.279
My apologies?

1728
01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:21.319
No, okay, So for those who don't understand, I'm not

1729
01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:23.159
actually no, I am tied and day fuck it.

1730
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:25.520
Yeah, but we have seen something I Deadly like three

1731
01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:26.479
times Together.

1732
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:28.920
Part three three. Yeah, yeah, no, No, there's an entire

1733
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:32.239
joke in silent I Deadly three where she says I'm

1734
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:34.920
going to Piru and he says You're going to Peru

1735
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:37.720
and she says, no, Piru in the valley. Yeah, my

1736
01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:42.119
grandma has an orange orchard. So yeah, Piru makes perfect sense.

1737
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:43.079
That's why they'd film it.

1738
01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:45.520
Shot in seventeen days. Originally supposed to be eighteen, but

1739
01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:46.680
a fire cost them a day.

1740
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:50.720
Wow, seventeen days for that kind of movie, that's actually

1741
01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:52.399
a very efficient shooting schedule.

1742
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:55.800
Yeah. It was premiered on CBS on October twenty fourth

1743
01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:58.920
of nineteen eighty one. All nocturnal shots were shot at night.

1744
01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:00.880
I mean it looked like it.

1745
01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:01.239
Yeah.

1746
01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:01.520
Great.

1747
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:04.399
Screenwriter J. D. Figelson went to Texas and recorded the

1748
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:06.239
sounds of the cicadas so they could be used in

1749
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:07.000
the film.

1750
01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:08.840
A Little Extra Something.

1751
01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:12.199
Yes. Originally conceived as a theatrical film, it went directly

1752
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:15.600
to television instead, premiering on CBS just before Halloween in

1753
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:16.079
eighty one.

1754
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.720
Hmmm, I wonder does that mean they actually made the

1755
01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:21.880
film first and then sold it to TV.

1756
01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:22.920
I mean that might be it.

1757
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:26.119
Yeah, I mean that that could be just usually that

1758
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:28.399
doesn't happen back then, but it could happen.

1759
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:33.079
Figelson said the name otis otis P. Hazel rig On

1760
01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:35.760
the sign, or saw the name otis P. Hazelry On

1761
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:37.239
a sign and liked it so much that he used

1762
01:22:37.239 --> 01:22:38.520
the name for the film's main character.

1763
01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:41.239
Okay, I mean that that's good as getting one from

1764
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:41.720
a phone book.

1765
01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.039
Okay. Charles Dirting did most of his own sons. In

1766
01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:46.239
the film's climbactive chase scene when he was running away

1767
01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:48.119
from the tractor, a double can be seen in a

1768
01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:49.119
few shots of darker hair.

1769
01:22:49.199 --> 01:22:50.840
Yes, you can, sen Yeah, there's a part where he

1770
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:53.840
jumps on the guy in the cemetery.

1771
01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:56.600
Yeah, and it's clearly a stuch.

1772
01:22:56.600 --> 01:22:57.880
I mean, all of a sudden, it's a guy with

1773
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:02.199
way darker, bigger hair, who is easily a one hundred

1774
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:04.479
pounds thinner. Yeah, it's very apparent.

1775
01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:07.439
Hazel Rigg is never seen wearing anything but his postal

1776
01:23:07.439 --> 01:23:09.239
service uniform throughout the entire film.

1777
01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:10.479
Yeah, that's true.

1778
01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:13.039
Struther Martin was originally scheduled to play the part of

1779
01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.159
Otis C. Hazelrigg, but passed away before the film could

1780
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:17.439
be made. However, a few lines of the script suggested

1781
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:19.720
by Martin remained in the final film, but spoken by Derning,

1782
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:22.960
who eventually played the part. As early or as of

1783
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:25.680
early twenty twenty one, Tanya Crow and Robert f Lyons

1784
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:27.199
are the only two main actors from the film and

1785
01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:30.000
still alive, which is Mary Lee and Skeeter.

1786
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:32.159
Oh that makes sense. They were two of the youngest

1787
01:23:32.159 --> 01:23:33.399
people on the film.

1788
01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:35.640
Although it was never mentioned in the film, Philby's first

1789
01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:37.680
name was revealed to be George in the film's production

1790
01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:40.600
notes in the film's name Bubba's real in the film,

1791
01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:43.199
Bubba's real name is Charles Elliott Ritter, which we see

1792
01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:43.840
on the tombstone.

1793
01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:44.960
Yeah, that makes sense.

1794
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:47.479
Early in the film, Robert f Lyons hurts his hands

1795
01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:50.239
spinning around in pain. A scene like this occurs early

1796
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:52.039
in The Wizard of Oz when Ray Bulger hurts his

1797
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:54.600
own hands spinning around in a very similar way. In

1798
01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:57.039
this scene, he is playing the character Hunk before reappearing

1799
01:23:57.079 --> 01:23:58.279
in the film as the scarecrow.

1800
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:01.119
Oh that's clever.

1801
01:24:02.119 --> 01:24:04.039
Three of the guns seen the film did not work.

1802
01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:05.359
When the posse shoots Bubba to.

1803
01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:08.079
Death fair enough.

1804
01:24:08.720 --> 01:24:11.399
An interesting coincidence. Lane Smith's character in the first of

1805
01:24:11.439 --> 01:24:13.039
the four men to die in the film, and in

1806
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:14.680
real life, Lane Smith was the first of the four

1807
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:16.680
actors portrayed the vigilantes to pass as well.

1808
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:19.039
Well, that's just dark, jeez. JD.

1809
01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:21.920
Vigelson, screenwriter as the voice of the man who radio's

1810
01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:26.520
harless on the CBE radio just after the shooting of Bubba.

1811
01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:28.119
A little hitchcocky thing a little bit.

1812
01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:30.439
So what are your final thoughts on Dark Knight of

1813
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:30.960
the Scarecrow.

1814
01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:37.479
Oh my god, fuck you. It's a quintessential horror film,

1815
01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:41.439
a quintessential Halloween time film, a quintessential television movie.

1816
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:42.560
Yeah.

1817
01:24:42.119 --> 01:24:46.880
It to me, it's historically valuable. It's not just interesting

1818
01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:51.000
or fun or scary. It's a time capsule of a

1819
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:57.000
very interesting time in television in film. I mean this

1820
01:24:57.079 --> 01:24:59.479
movie came out right when the slasher boom was about

1821
01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:00.680
to start.

1822
01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:02.039
Pretty crazy.

1823
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:04.880
It's nuts. I mean, Halloween had already come out and

1824
01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:07.359
was a hit. The next year, Friday the thirteenth was

1825
01:25:07.399 --> 01:25:09.359
going to become a hit. Two years after that, Nimer

1826
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:11.039
and Elm Street was going to become a hit as well.

1827
01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:14.960
So it's kind of like looking at the stuff that

1828
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:18.159
happened in the nineties pre Scream, how it's very different

1829
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:21.479
from what ended up becoming the big thing. And I

1830
01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:23.399
love that about this movie. I love that this is

1831
01:25:23.399 --> 01:25:28.760
a very different, old fashioned in its way horror film.

1832
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:32.760
I think that, I mean, if you're if you consider

1833
01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:35.520
yourself a movie lover, it's an own it. I really

1834
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:37.560
do think that. I think that there is that you

1835
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:40.640
will never regret owning this little TV movie that'll creep

1836
01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:43.239
you out every time you watch it. I see no

1837
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:46.199
reason not to own it, but for the love of God,

1838
01:25:46.439 --> 01:25:47.880
watch it however you can.

1839
01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:49.680
Yeah. No, it's a buy it for me as well,

1840
01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.960
simply from the fact of the restoration. The restoration looks

1841
01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:53.800
so fucking good.

1842
01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:55.920
Yeah, it's amazing, and I just ordered the four K

1843
01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:57.680
so I'm excited to watch.

1844
01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:03.000
It on the disc. Is great as well, seeing the performances,

1845
01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:05.680
seeing the way that the movie plays out, it's tight

1846
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:08.199
run time. All of this just makes it so much

1847
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:10.239
fun and like you said, perfect for the Halloween season.

1848
01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:12.560
So I cannot think of any other reason why you

1849
01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:13.880
wouldn't want to own this movie.

1850
01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:15.920
Yeah, I would have to agree.

1851
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:28.239
Do you even movie will be right back. Welcome back

1852
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:32.079
to do you even movie?

1853
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:36.239
So, as we always liked to end the show with

1854
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:38.640
a couple of recommendations, I have two this week, the

1855
01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:42.079
first one being Strangeland from nineteen ninety eight. A detective

1856
01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:45.479
pursues a sadist, a specializing in body modification rituals who

1857
01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:47.840
lures teenagers through the Internet. And Rique asked me why

1858
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:49.319
this one? Why I picked this one?

1859
01:26:49.399 --> 01:26:51.039
I just thought it sounded I mean, I like Strange

1860
01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:51.560
Land a lot.

1861
01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:54.680
The reason I picked this is because, not really a spoiler,

1862
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:57.279
but there's a portion of Strange Land where a mob

1863
01:26:57.479 --> 01:26:59.840
decides to do their own mob justice and in doing

1864
01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:02.439
make the situation way worse than if they had just

1865
01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.359
left it alone. Just like in Dark Now the Scarecrow.

1866
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:08.960
Uh thought for you, mob justice is neither a mob

1867
01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:12.119
nor justice discuss amongst yourselves.

1868
01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:16.680
Second recommendation nineteen eighty eight Scarecrows. Criminals hijack a plane

1869
01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:19.239
enforced the pilot and his daughter to fly to Mexico. However,

1870
01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:23.520
an unexpected landing finds him as cemetery inhabited by killer Scarecrows.

1871
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:26.039
That movie is a goddamn trip. Ye that is such

1872
01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:28.479
a good time yes, it is. Holy shit, that movie

1873
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:28.920
is fun.

1874
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:30.199
So what's your recommendation?

1875
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:32.800
Well, I had to think long and hard. Since you

1876
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:37.399
stole the easiest Scarecrows, I was gonna say neither the

1877
01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:42.199
Scarecrows or Scarecrow. Bro, They're not that alike actually, other

1878
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:44.119
than there being a scarecrow. So then I decided, you

1879
01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:47.199
know what, I'm gonna go with something else that is

1880
01:27:47.319 --> 01:27:51.279
very different but gives me a very similar vibe.

1881
01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:54.640
You want to guess Pumpkinhead.

1882
01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:57.880
Yeah, Pumpkinhead. Didn't you looked at my screen? Didn't? No? No,

1883
01:27:58.039 --> 01:27:58.680
but it's on there.

1884
01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:00.359
The more I thought about it, though, I was when

1885
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:02.199
you said similar vibe, I'm just like, oh wait a minute,

1886
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:05.000
Like a vengeance? Yeah, no, that would absolutely make sense.

1887
01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:09.439
Nineteen eighty eight's Pumpkinhead, directed by special effects legend Stan Winston,

1888
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:12.720
starring Lance Hendrickson. Yeah. If you haven't seen this movie,

1889
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:16.039
that's bizarre to me. It's a phenomenal movie. It's all

1890
01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:21.359
about vengeance from beyond the grave. Yeah, Southern Fried vengeance,

1891
01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:24.960
basically the IMDb descriptions. After a tragic accident, a man

1892
01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:28.359
conjures up a towering, vengeful demon called Pumpkinhead to destroy

1893
01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:32.239
a group of unsuspecting teenagers. But it's a film about

1894
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the folly of vengeance, how there is no real revenge.

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It's definitely the story of the man who seeks vengeance

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should dig two grapes.

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Grapes.

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It's a great one and it has atmosphere to spare ye,

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lots of that creepy at night time stuff. It's a

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much bigger budget movie, yeah, than Dark Knight of the

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Scarecrow or Scarecrows or Strange Land. It's a bigger film, yeah,

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But it has a great atmosphere. It's not entirely halloweeny,

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but damned if it wouldn't you in the mood for Halloween.

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It absolutely will, and the special effects are jaw dropping,

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the monsters incredibly rememborable.

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If the opening of that movie alone does not get

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you in the mood for Halloween, I don't know what.

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Will you really love children dying? Don't you?

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No? No, no, I'm talk about the open credits, like the

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flames and everything. But I mean, I'm not Keith.

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Just making you feel bad, but no, So I'm going

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to say Pumpkinhead from nineteen eighty eight definitely worth a

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watch very good would be a good pairing.

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And if you like Pumpkinhead, then you should check out

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Pumpkinhead two. And then that's the only sequels that exist

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after that.

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That's harsh considering our very own Dayton Native produced the

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other sequels.

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I haven't seen Blood Wings in a good bit. Ashes

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to Ashes I caught on Pluto.

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Blood Wings is part two.

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Yeah, oh, Blowings is part two. No Ashes to Ashes

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is part three. I can't remember the other subtitles, but

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I watched either part three or part four a while

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back on Pluto and it did not hold up.

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They're a little rough. I mean that was during the

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the right before the big sci fi original movie boom

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of the monster movies that were really successful. Yeah, but

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I love Pumpkinhead two. I've always had a soft spot

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for Pumpkinhead two. And it's oddly Stephen kingy yess to it.

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It's also really heartbreaking.

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Oh yeah, it's so sad. Yeah, it's incredibly.

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Said Pumpkinhead pumpkinead two cannot recommend either of those. Enough

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good recommendation on that, Well, thanks Pal, You're welcome. God,

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would you like to know what we're talking about next week?

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Absolutely not.

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Well, too bad, because we were unfortunately reaching the end

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of our Halloween horror month.

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Yes it's true at our weekly spooky combo shows.

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That is true. But we are going out with a bang,

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because we are going out with a little film from

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two thousand and four that I know you and I

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share a lot of admiration for. Yes, yes, Satan's Little

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Helper from two thousand and four, directed by is it

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Jeff Lieber? Jeff Lieberman Leberman? Yeah?

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Thank yes, Uh no, this one is one I'm excited

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to revisit because last year we were blessed with a

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Blu Ray, beautiful Blu Ray. And I want to say,

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and this, I am not often wrong ever no about

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about this kind of thing. But when they announced a

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Blu Ray, I was like, who cares? This movie was

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shot on video in two thousand and four, it's not

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going to It's because there's this big thing right now

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about putting standard definition movies on Blu Ray, and I

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just don't. I mean, I guess it's because because people

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like the packaging and they're going to pay for it.

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We'll see how the Murder Party Blue looks. But like,

1958
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I don't love that, Yeah, I get a little frustrated sometimes.

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But then I read an interview about the Blu Ray

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and found out that Jeff Lieberman shot Satan's Little Helper

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on the Sina Alta, the Sony Sina Alta, the camera

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they shot Star Wars episode one on, and supposedly, he claims,

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I don't know if this is true, he claims literally

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the camera that they shot Star Wars episode one on.

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Oh Wow, that they because it had to be you

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couldn't rent it where he was. They had to fly

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it in from Los Angeles. So the film was shot

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in HD right at the beginning of HD existing, and

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therefore the Blu Ray would be an upgrade.

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Yeah.

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That made me insanely excited to get my copy.

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Absolutely, and I watched it.

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I thought it looked pretty good. Yeah, but I'm excited

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to revisit it, if just to enjoy the definition. Yes,

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So I'm really looking forward to revisiting that. And that's

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one that I found just by literally looking up Halloween

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horror films.

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The first time I ever saw it was on Netflix,

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because I think I texted you about it because I

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think I had asked you if like you had seen it,

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and you were just like dude, watch it.

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Yeah, I was like, watch it right the second Yeah, yeah, No,

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it's it's a phenomenally fun o depraved. Depraved is the

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01:32:33.359 --> 01:32:35.960
perfect word because it's fun and mean spirited at the

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same time. Yeah. And I just can't, like, I need

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to listen to the commentary track on that, because I

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can't even imagine how you would write something so fucking

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mean and weird and weird. And it's one of the

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few films that is this meme. But I respect it

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because it's thought out really well.

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And it has blasphemy and how and how do we

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have any emails? By the way, no, no.

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One loves us. I'll double check one last time. Well

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I did check a few times during the show, just

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in case we got somebody to swoop in. If you

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want to send us an email, we'd love to hear

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from you. You can contact us at do you even

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movie pod at gmail dot com or go to dooevenmovie

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dot com and write us a message through there nothing

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not a zilch, Although I mean, we did get like

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a million requests for the Christmas season, which we're gonna

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fill as many of them as we can, might be

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able to fill all of them. So far, but we

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love to get requests. November is pretty much caput. Yeah,

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we've got, We've got because we have spent a very

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long time finding some of the best and most unexpected

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Thanksgiving films of all time. And then December we've we've

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pretty much got sorted out. But January will get very interesting.

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And I will go ahead and spoil right now. We

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are not going to be covering Thanksgiving or ThanksKilling.

2011
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Oh for a second, I was like, Thanksgiving, Oh, you

2012
01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:57.680
mean the movie thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those are

2013
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:02.720
too obvious and actually but yeah, I mean I think

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we only covering one horror film.

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I think, so yeah for thanks for this, I think yeah,

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And if you're a horror fan of Thanksgiving.

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You already know what it is. I mean you either

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you know what it is and you know what it isn't,

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which is Cranberry.

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Sorry.

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So on that note, my friends, thank you so much

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for joining us on Do You Even Movie. Make sure

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to check us out at dooevenmovie dot com for all

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the information in the show notes. We have social media

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and blah blah blah. Yes, if you're listening to this

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as a podcast, please make sure that you have subscribed

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leave a like, leave a comment. We love to hear

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from you guys about the movies you like. And apparently

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after doing Scary Movie, we got a comment for somebody

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who said his comment was something along the lines of

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the algorithm has blessed me with a cult horror podcast

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I didn't know about. So hopefully you're enjoying and then

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not hugely disappointed when you realize we cover a lot

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of movies, a lot of movies. We do do a

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decent amount of horror. So and I said, dude, So anyway,

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until next time, you guys, stay safe out there. Hopefully

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I'm going to go to another goddamn haunt or two.

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I'm going to try goddamn it. So until next time, guys,

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we will see you next Tuesday.

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Bubba didn't do it.

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Bubba did not do it. That needs to be a

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bumper sticker.