Confessions of a Serial Killer (1985): True-Crime Horror

0:08 Do you remember the first person you ever killed? I don't know. I never asked her name. That was her? Now you'd like to leave her name? Which one? I know? The guy's crazy. What I want to know is can we believe is not he said he's killed over two? One or two? Just what you do? All that, just all the time in the eyes of a street, the hidings of a drift of there is no it seems like killing me. It's just like breathing.

1:22 Everybody else just can't live without doing it all the time. In a world where podcasts reign supreme, Two Friends dare to ask. Do You Even? Movie? Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denyer.

2:06 Spoiler alert, Hello everyone, and welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? I'm your host, Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy co host and always willing to give a hitchhiker a ride Double D. David Denier, Greetings, and I don't know about that. Well. I have to say the legend of Double D has spread far and wide, further than I could ever have hoped. Last week we actually had a comment I believe was on last week's show on YouTube saying double D coming in a full blown menace. I think it was a comment, but that was from Andrew Scott, one of my favorite podcaster and YouTubers. He has many channels, but the one I knew him originally from was called podcast Is. She's actually the reason I have these microphones.

2:59 He's the I follow his reviews of audio equipment closely, and now not only does he know audio equipment, but he knows that you are not to be trusted. I mean, that's that's fair. After my ice story about what was on the car and everything, yeah, it didn't feel the absolute best. You mean, you mean your public safety so challenge. I've been watching a lot of court cam. I can't get enough of it, and I can watch all of it on demand with my friendly app okay, oh yeah, And like there was one recently that was the do you remember the story about the kids that threw the stuff off the overpass and like actually like ended up killing that guy. Oh yeah, yeah that yeah. For some reason that kind of registered with me this time around where it was just like, oh, yeah, windshields can break and like really hurt people.

3:44 Oh well, I mean the windshield doesn't have to break. It could just cause enough distraction for them to crash their car. Yeah that's fair too. Yeah, yeah, I. Don't want to be a part of that. So I'm not going to do that ever again. We'll see. I'll just mark that down on my little notepad of watch Dave until I. Mean, basically, at this point, it's until we get another like serious snow or ice storm, which hopefully won't be for about another week. It looks like, oh. Yeah, we might get two weeks of mild weather here. We saw earlier this week negative seven degree. It sucked it. Well, I mean that was at like four am. So, I mean, so my roommate he recently got a job at the Sheets I was telling you about, yea, and he had to take out trash that night when it was like in the negatives. Yeah, he was not thrilled about that.

4:31 I think that was Tuesday. That was actually Tuesdayuesday, and Rachel and I went to see wolf Man, which I had a lot of fun with. I'm I'm getting kind of fed up. Maybe maybe twenty twenty four was a bad example. We had such an over abundance of stuff come out in twenty twenty four. It's very strong year, but like it was just everything had to be the biggest masterpiece of horror of all time. You had Maxine, you had Terrifier three, you had no Speratu, you had see I can't even remember all of them. Substance, Yeah, this night Swim Well, I mean but you see, and then people will like, just like you, They'll they'll chuckle that nice swim but nice one was fun.

5:12 I still haven't seen Imaginary and I'm dying. That one was a lot of fun. My point is Wolfman. Was it the greatest film I've ever seen? No? Was it fun and scary? Hell? Yeah? Did I have a good time? Was it worth my ticket? Yes? One thing I will say for it that they don't really get across. I don't know how you would in the trailer. Is it takes place in one night? Yeah, but I mean like it it literally one night. They get to the area, the outskirts of town where his father's old farm is, and then that's the it just starts. It starts. There's no like we arrive at the house, we look around and go, wow, you know Dad's gone. But no, no, I mean it's like they're almost there and they're being attacked by a wolfman. Yeah. Period. Also, whoever it was at Universal's you know, horror event or whatever that that unveiled the monster that way should be fired because I really think they were. I really think that hurt the movie immensely because they took what was a pretty scary and original design for a Wolfman and then dumbed it down to a Halloween costume, a high end Halloween costume for Knights of Horror whatever they call it there, and it takes all the pardon the pun, all the bite out of the actual look of the monster, like majorly in the actual movie. We only get glimpses, and they're pretty solid glimpses. The movie it's not the wolf Man,

6:45 it's wolf Man. It's not meant to be a new telling of the Wolfman, wolf space Man, wolf Man, And there's no the It's just wolf Man Man. And thanks to Batman, we now know that the makes a big difference. Thanks to DC in general, especially run time, well and and the Suicide Squad as opposed to Suicide Squad. Yeah. So, but it was a lot of fun. I had a great time watching. It had some solid scares, It had a story that made sense, It had a beginning that an ending that made sense and was established by the rest of the film. Oh yeah, you know, will I watch it a million times? Probably not. But that isn't really the goal. Every time I leave the house to go see a movie, I would like to see a new movie in the theater roughly every week. And the idea that that means every year I'm going to see fifty two of the greatest movies ever see in my life.

7:35 Like that just sounds stupid. I just don't know how you would even pull that off. Yeah, but that's kind of the thing. And there are so many good movies that come out it's hard to keep up with all of them. That absolutely is. I mean, I still want to see Den of Thieves two, which I know is in theaters right now. It just came out, just came out. We have not seen, damn it. What's the one that I'm trying to think of? So I think it's another another horror film. I can't remember. There's like three movies in theaters I want to see right now. Yeah, there's there's quite a few, so I mean, anyway, my point is, like I saw comments after I went off about body's body's bodies saying, like you know very mid fine, I thought. I mean I've actually rewatched it a couple of times. Yeah, because it's very amusing. It has a great pace and great atmosphere. But I'm not saying Body's Body's Bodies with the best film of twenty twenty two or whatever it was when it came out.

8:25 I'm just saying, like this obsession with like it's gotta be great. I'm bored with it. You saw that Substance has like seven Academy Award nominations. Which is nuts. Ye, Like, overall, I'm happy about it, but I'm also kind of perturbed because that's the breakout that gets body Horror and like gross out horror into Academy Awards. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not against it, but I did when I saw it was kind of like, of course it does, because everybody loves it and I loved it. I was curious if long Leg was gonna get anything, and I don't think I got a single time. Probably not. Yeah, I remember they were actually doing like for your consideration for that movie, but. You put like a former A list star. I mean nothing against to me more. I mean because she also had a small role in Landman, and she was phenomenal in it. It looks like in season two she's going to be a major role in it, So no spoilers, but that's really what it looks like. And I think it was a wonderful performance. I thought I had a good message, So I have nothing against the movie. Yeah, it's just kind of that moment where I'm like, that's the one that pushed it over.

9:32 Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do You Even? Movie? Well, part of it makes me feel like the Academy Award people are just wearing the backward cap with the skateboard over their shoulder, going hello, fellow kids. I enjoyed the substance as well. I remembered, like the biggest surprise that I had Academy Award wise is all the way back to No Country for Old Men winning Best Picture, because I did not expect that to happen. That makes sense though, I mean, that's a Cohen Brothers. Right, Yeah, but it was. It was just it didn't it didn't seem like it because I can't remember. There was a bunch of it was up against that year, like a lot of a lot of big titles.

10:16 Well usually they don't run on the post. Yeah, yeah, weird if they did. But now I just remember that being a big upset to like the point where our good buddy Andy Copp even commented that it was like comparison to Signs of the Lambs winning that people didn't expect. I would agree, though, I mean, but with Cohen Brothers, it's like you expect it to at least get a nomination. Now, if Substance one Best Picture, I would be amazed and I would be very happy, I hope. So right now with all of the nominations and unless they win something of value other than like Best Editing or something. Yeah, I don't know if they were nominated for Best Editing, but you know what I'm saying. I also don't watch the Academy Award. I don't either. I just look at the page the next day to see what. I just see. Who's complaining? I like, I got nothing, you know, I got nothing. I got no love loss for the Academy Awards, but like it does kind of feel like hello, fellow kids. Now, if they get an award of Substance, then I will be impressed.

11:09 Yeah, no, I would too, because you know, if like. That gets Demi Moore an Oscar. That would be crazy, it'd be awesome, it would be dope. Yeah, has she had an Academy Award before GJE might have been g I Jane. Maybe it would still be it would be an incredible thing. But for now, I'm just kind of like, Wow, they're really hoping that, like people will tune in that are younger. And that's a big problem with this entire market, with this entire the film world is it's an it's it's like people our age and older are most of it. The younger people they're really struggling. Like I remember when I saw the trailer. Granted this was before I found out the movie wasn't very good. For Good Burger too, I I do you remember when I saw a trailer?

11:50 I think I turned to you and I just said and I just said, fuck trying to get young people to watch movies. You letting us have money? Right, you'll come and watch it, right, You'll you'll pay money. The movie was so disappointed. It was it was not great. But but yeah, so same thing with like, you know, when there's a new Indiana Jones and I was like, wow, they are just they're okay, cool, they're just like, okay, never mind, we can't get zoomers in here. So anyway, regardless of all of that, our movie tonight is a film that is near and dear to my heart for several reasons, and one of them is that for me personally, it was a literal VHS video store discovery, yeah, which for someone my age is the height of nostalgia. And it wasn't. And it wasn't like you know, I found the tape at a trail, No, this was it was at Hollywood Video, right there on the shelf in the in the crappy clam boxes they use, the weird case boxes they use this.

12:44 And this would have been not to date you, but this would have been. Well, no, we're just friends. It wasn't. It wasn't like release like it was. It was like it had been out for a bit, right. Oh, this tape was from nineteen ninety two, okay, okay, yeah, or ninety one or ninety two. Yeah. That was at the my the legendary Holly Video near my house that was originally a movie gallery. Yeah, and they had that's where I first saw Evil Ed. They had the double tape of Donna the Dead just on the show that was. So sure you rented multiple times, you have no clue. Oh my god. I would rent the double tape and I would just watch both versions and then watch all the they had, like all the foreign trailers on one of. The tapes tape. I would just watch it all the way to the end. Just I just wanted more Donna the Dead. So, but that being said, this one was kind of special because I'd never heard of it. I'd never seen anything about it.

13:33 I'm probably twelve or thirteen, which is way too young to be watching. This, I would say. So. Yeah. The film Tonight, by the way, is well nineteen eighty five is although released in the US in nineteen ninety one, Confessions of a Serial Killer. And if you've not heard of it, that's your problem. You should rent it on Amazon or rent it on fandango at home right now on Amazon. Oh, that's so worth it. It's a great film, is about It is loosely based on the killer Henry Lee Lucas. And I know what you're thinking, Well, there's Henry portrait of serial killer. They made this first. This was made first. By the time it was ready to come out, Henry had gotten all the buzz and as I said so eloquently a couple of weeks back, it's kind of like Paul Blurt mole Coop and Observant Report.

14:24 This is such a comparison that so works well. And nothing against Henry for being Paul Blart Mallcop. The cruel irony of this is Paul Blart Mallcop in this example is that Henry, although it's intentionally grimy and all this, it's much more polished. It's very character driven, phenomenal performances, very artistic, and it became a cult phenomenon as to where Confessions kind of came and went and is very slowly get revved up and become something that people are interested in watching. And now you could mean the And we found out you could rent it an HD. By it an HD, we flipped out, and then a year later it was on blu Ray Ye couldn't believe it, Yeah, because it had been picked up by Roger Korman and sat on for a while, and they slapped the notorious Hannibal Elector mask cover on it, which is what I remember.

15:16 But then there's a second part to it. I don't know when you want me to tell my Robert Burns' story. If you want me to wait a while. Say let's let's just go ahead, go go ahead, and go ahead and talk, because I think I think at this point this will give kind of an introduction into it as we get into it as well, because Henry Ly Lucas, as many know that are listening to this, as one of the most notorious serial killers because he claims to have killed more people than he possibly could have. Yeah, yeah, like and not like possibly could have from a like a moral standpoint, yeah, but from a literal logistical standpoint, he would claim he killed people that were four hundred and fifty miles apart within like eight hours. He claimed he killed people that were still alive. Yep, Yeah, into the numbers of two hundred, like he claimed over two hundred.

15:56 Over two hundred people he claimed he kill. And then like later on when the Satanic panicap and all of a sudden, he claimed that he was a part of a cult. He was a liar, He was a pathological liar who a lot of people think he probably killed maybe ten fifteen people somewhere in that neighborhood. But at the time of this film's being made and at the time of Henry portrait of serial killer being made. People were buying it, and it was very scary because when people would say, how did you get away with this? He was like, I just kept driving up the highway. Stuck to the highway the roads I knew. And people were mortified because they were like, it's that easy to just keep getting away with it and getting away with it. And one thing that Henry did that I didn't like that Confessions does right real quick. And then I'll talk about Robert Burns, the lead actor in Confessions.

16:42 Even though they mentioned that Henry is like a vagabond, he just hangs out in Chicago the entire movie. And one thing I like about this one is while it's very Texics centric, which is where Henry L. Lucas was caught and all that, he's on the road like the entire film until the third act last, so which I like because I feel like that gives more of a kind of an accurate depiction of Henry Lee Lucas. It gives you a curve ball in that third act because like, you know, we'll get into what we talked about the movie, of course, but you know you're on the road with him. That entire time, and then he gets to a place where it's just like he has prime victims at any point. Yeah, that could be on the Pickens and you're just basically waiting to see what happens. Yeah, yeah, and it's so anyway, we'll get into the details.

17:26 But I have a very personal story about Robert A. Burns, the gentleman who plays oh gosh, what was his character's name, Daniel Ray Hawks Daniel Ray Hawkins. That's the other thing. This film took way more of the actual, at the time known Henry story than Henry did, but they changed all the names as where Henry used all the names for the most part. Yeah, which is a bizarre l odd So Robert A. Burns, you'll go through his filmography, but he became very well known as a production designer. His first feature of note that he was the production designer on was a little Texas indie movie called The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Never heard of it, me neither, But he was the guy when you watch that film, he was the guy who made the bird cages full of chickens, the furniture out of bones. He was the guy who did all of that and a lot more. He also did re Animator The Hills Have Eyes. He did a lot of interesting pieces, and this is the only film where he was a lead actor. He had popped up in friends films, you know, here and there, and he was notorious for being lighthearted and fun to be around.

18:34 Exactly and one year at the Cinema Wasteland convention, I want to say in two thousand and two, cool, it would have been two or one. Robert A. Burns was a guest, and I got excited because I was a Confessions of the Serial Killer fan. Yeah, even though most people were there for him to sign reanimator stuff and Texas Chainsaw stuff. So I remember, now I'm a teenager, and it would have been been fifteen, sixteen years old, maybe even fourteen. When he was sitting at his table, I actually found myself terrified of him because they didn't do much to his appearance in Henry or in the Confessions, and neither did they in Henry. They just let the actor be the actor. They didn't do his eye and all that weird stuff about him. So when he was sitting there, literally he was just the character from Confessions, and he creeped me out a little bit. So I had to get myself boost myself up. And then I went over and talked to him. So nice, so excited to talk. But when I said that I was a big fan of Confessions of a serial Killer, he lit up.

19:39 That's awesome. He was just like, man, you're your kidding me, and I was like, no, no, And he told me about how he had had to audition at the last minute to be the lead, and he had watched tapes of Lucas and other serial killers because he had seen other auditions and they were playing, you know, just kind of like maniac guy. So he watched it and he was like, I just sat down and I was like, yeah, I killed her five weeks ago, and he was like, I just played it so cool, because that's how those guys do it. They like it's like they're telling you what they got at the grocery store. Yeah, And we talked for twenty thirty minutes, and then he told me he was like, I got to show you some So he gets out of suitcase, a brief little briefcase thing, and he opens it up and there are twenty or thirty folded posters for the original video release of Confessions of a Serial Killer. And he literally says, I found these in the basement. Should you should have one? That's so cool?

20:38 Now I can't remember, sincerely, I cannot remember if he charged me a dollar for it or if not, but but he was like, you should get one of these. You should have one of these, and he signed it to me want to ride? Yes he did because I just saw that poster. Because it's hanging in my bedroom. Yep. That poster has been very special to me for lots of reasons, one being that it's impossible to find them. I've never seen one on e I've never seen one in a horror group. I have no idea if I was the only first who bought one that weekend. Do You Even Movie will be right back, welcome back to Do You Even Movie?

21:25 The next year at Wasteland, or it may have been six months later, something like that, he was just there again, not even on the guest list, No, no, he just was there. That's awesome. Robert Burns had never done a convention before at that time, and Wasteland was his. First, which is a perfect one to go to, and he. Was mind blown by all the fans and all the enthusiasm and all the camaraderie. He liked it so much he came back, and I believe both times he was videotaping stuff, like just capturing it because he wanted to remember it from posterity. And he would always flag me down, like if he walked by my table or if I was walking around and we chat a little bit. He was so fucking friendly, and we exchanged an email or two long time ago, obviously, And one of my favorite stories, which I was not directly involved with, was Ken Kish, who owned Cinema Wasteland. When Bob was there, Robert Burns was there. It was in it was in April. It was the April Show, and it had snowed because we were by the Great Lakes and everything. And I guess Robert Burns was walking somewhere and Ken put packed up a snowball and whacked him in the back with it.

22:32 When he turned around, Ken went, Welcome to Spring in Ohio. It's one of my favorite Robert ay Burns stories. So he was running around the con. He had his video camera out, he was filming stuff. He had uploaded clips to his little website. He had robertie Burns dot com. Yeah, and then a year or so goes by and I get word that he's passed away. He had been diagnosed. I'm sure you have the actual, the full details, but even diagnosed with a terminal form of care answer, and he chose to take his own life. Yeah, he left a kind of a I don't want to say suicide note because that's so heavy, but he left a message on his website for everybody. Yeah, and it literally said along.

23:15 I'm paraphrasing because I'd never looked at it again, but he basically said, like, you know, I'm a movie fan. I've always been a movie fan. I love movies, but I've never thought it was wrong to walk out of a movie if you were positive that you were no longer going to enjoy it. And the picture he put was a picture he taken of himself laying in front of a tombstone. I think he'd built that, said burns on it. I've seen that picture. Yeah, and possibly one of the first like acquaintances that I ever knew to die. Yeah, very possible because it was four, so i'd have been seventeen, sixteen years old. I hadn't even had a grandparent die until two years later. So that made this movie and that poster mean an immense amount more to me.

24:00 Yeah, understandable. And he was just a real one man. And I just sometimes I just stop and think about how lucky I was. I got to have that experience, to meet him, to talk with him, to nerd out about movies, and to nerd out about his performance, which he was very proud of. Yeah, and he should be Yeah. Yeah, but a guy who was a guy like Robert A. Burns, who was larger than life in every way, this big old Texas cowboy guy, loud voice, lots of jokes, never really wanted the spotlight though it was the weirdest thing in a room he would get all the attention. Yeah, but he.

24:40 Never wanted to be on camera. He never wanted to be He was never He never wanted to be a big actor. He never tried to be a lead again that I know of. He was just Robert A. Burns. He was just this guy. Yeah. He was talked about immensely on the commentary track on this disc nothing but great things to say about him. From the director to the cinematographer to the co star who plays Molly in the movie, they had nothing but amazing things to say about him. Yeah, I've never heard a negative word about him. Yeah, I mean the worst I've ever heard about him was when he would put his foot down about safety on the set or put his foot down about animal protection. Yeah, and stuff like that. Those are like the only negatives of her is like, yeah, Robert Burns wouldn't let me do this because he said it was too dangerous for the animals on sat or he said it was too dangerous for this, or that he would Yeah. So yeah, Robert A. Burns was a great dude. And I'm so glad we could talk about this movie. And I'm so glad that I could. I could kind of share it with people. I've shared it with a lot of people over the years.

25:35 Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I mean I didn't know him that well. Yeah, obviously, I guess, but he left a real bark on me. Yeah, so that's all. And and it should also be mentioned man like I was a literal kid, and he would go out of his way to be super friendly, to give me a little shout, give me a wink, give me a point, stop and talk to me. It means a lot. Yeah, No, it really fucked, It really does. No. I mean as somebody who has been going to Wasteland since seven now, and I actually just observed my hotel room today for April show. And it's just that's to give to give Wasteland a good moment here. It's just it is a convention unlike any other. I mean, you when you go to conventions like Day's the Dead and Horrorhoum, like, they have the standard convention feel. You've got the room where the celebrities are, You've got the room where the merches, you've got the bar. Walking Dead had taken over, you know, big time when I was in college. So I mean those conventions were nothing but that Wasteland has always been that convention to where the people that they get may not be very popular names or may have done like very cult films in that regard. But I've never met anybody that's like a legit jerk at Cinema Wasteland.

26:46 I've met tons. I mean, I get that, But that doesn't mean that it's not a great time, a great show, and a place where in many ways I grew up. It's a very intimate setting, more so gody than any other con Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's. At a holiday in ballroom. Yeah, I mean now, it's best Western conversation for another day. So are you ready to get into Confessions of a Serial Killer? Why the hell not? All right? So, Confessors of a Serial Killer nineteen eighty five, as Enriquez said, does come out, doesn't come out until nineteen ninety one, one hour and forty six minutes, rated R for basically everything. That's a very good way to put it. Yeah, they're swearing. There's killing, there's raping, there's just everything. There's a lot the sun, there's a lot. So the IMDb synopsis says, after being arrested, a Texas man begins confessing to the brutal murder of over two hundred women. He recounts his random selection of victims and his traveling companions, his friend and his friend's sister, but the police can't be sure whether to believe him or not until he locates a body and shows them some polaroids.

27:42 Based on the true story of Henry Lee Lucas my subsit wordy Yeah my synopsis. When serial killer Daniel Ray Hawkins is arrested, he begins to confess to multiple unsolved murders to Shareff wool Gaines, who doesn't believe him until Hawkins leads him to a body. That's pretty good. Oh so, I mean, yeah, yeah, you know, I I'll give you a mild mannered applause. Ooh, I'll take it. I mean, no, that's pretty pretty good. I mean, it's really just it's just what happened to Henry. He gets picked up, he starts confessing to a bunch of stuff. Yeah, And I mean they got it down to the fact that one of the reasons they think he was confessing so much was his treatment was better when he was confessing. Yeah, he'd get to leave to go take them around places.

28:22 They'd buy him fast food, most famously as hamburgers and milkshakes, which he loved. And that was one of the big impetuses for him confessing to so much was the cops were so much nicer to him. The more the more they would show him a picture of a dead Percy go I killed them because they were so happy to be closing. All these cases. Yeah. And whether you think that that was from a place of who cares, let's pin it on him, or it was from a case of legitimately, like we have some of the unsolved murders, because Texas has especially has an immense amount of unsolved murders. Yeah, a crazy amount, and a crazy amount of murders too, so especially in that era. Well, I mean, yeah, nineteen seventy four is when we get the text for the original of the movie and everything. But like people forget that, like the seventies and eighties was the haven of serial killers.

29:05 Well, and violence and murder in general just insanely high in the seventies, eighties, the sixties even there was so much violence and murder it was becoming very commonplace. It's a cruel irony when you watch the movie Killing of America, the shockumentary. But like they talk about like how awful and violent the United States is, the cruel irony is that they stopped. I mean that movie was made when we had one of the greatest improvements in crime and violence and murder in America, which was through the nineties into the early two thousands. So literally they were at the height of when I mean you could literally there were like bomb threats being called into schools daily all over.

29:47 Sometimes places were blowing up. There was a point in our time in our history, in the seventies especially where like someplace would blow up and they would literally have to be like, who did this? I mean, they would literally have to be like, was it like a left wing group, a right wing group? Was it the Black Panthers? Was it the was it the weather underground? Was it Neo Nazis? Was it Palestine? Palestine? People Like they literally would be like, we gotta wait until somebody claims. It, someone claims it. Yeah, and we forget that a lot, very easily. That that times were very very scary, very scary. So and and and this is a good example because that was kind of the height of when we understood serial killers were a thing, was in the seventies. Yeah, basically, I think really after the Manson murders was when people started to really go like, who are these psychos? Yeah, and and and how can we learn about them more and send them wedding proposals if you're a if you're a white woman.

30:41 It definitely true crime interest. When Heller Skeller was released. Oh yeah, no, without a doubt, both. The book form and the original movie. Yeah no, without a doubt. And and the sad truth is a lot of these people, people like Henry Lee Lucas or Ed Kemper or any of these serial notorious serial killers. They are all just like poor people. Yeah, and and this was like in that era especially, like it was like if you wanted to become famous when you were born the way like those guys were born, you either you either got good at singing, you got good at acting, or you killed a bunch of killed. A bunch of people. Yeah. Unfortunately, Do You Even? Movie will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie?

31:37 So our taglines include for the movie, a step inside the mind of a killer. That's pretty good, A true story of America's most twisted serial killer. That's pretty all right. That's it on the poster I have. It doesn't even have a tag a quote about the movie. It just says, Henry Lee Lucas is not only the most you know whatever serial killer, but possibly in the entire world or something like that. And it's the quote from a guy who wrote a book about Henry Lee Lucas, which I love because it's like it's not even technically about him. He might be the guy. There's a there's a brief, like seven minute interview with the guy on a disc for this and it is about Henry Lee Lucas. And it was the guy that did a TV special on him, or like broke the news report.

32:17 It could be. I just remember looking at it, going, that's not a quote. It was a quote, but it was just about Henry Lee Lucas. It wasn't about the movie itself at all. So Confessed with a Serial Killer is currently available to rent or buy on Prime Fandango wherever your movie's at. My will once again shout out the Blu Ray from Unearth Films and MVD Entertainment. Beautiful transfer, a bunch of bonus features, and first time it's been available on Blu Ray, but first time it's been available in what a decade plus. Well, I don't believe it ever had a Region one DVD. I didn't at all. It only had the Region two DVD in the early two thousands. Okay, so which was very sought after and was cut. Yeah that makes sense because I mean this is the full director's cut the week. Yeah yeah, no, this version was almost seen nowhere. Now the vhs I saw had most of the heinous stuff in there because I'm scarred, remember my wife, yeah, child watching it, so I remember it very vividly.

33:06 Yeah, because I mean I think at least pulled up as I've already got it pulled up here. I think the like actual theatrical cut is like fifteen minutes shorter. Really, let me check, it's an hour and twenty Yeah, eighty nine minutes is the original run time and one hundred and ye hour and forty six one hundred and six minutes. I'd have to look at what the differences are because they might have cut out a lot of gibber jabber two. I know that the a lot of the surprising deaths that I'll be talking about here in a second are are missing from it originally. Well the theatrical cut too. Yeah, they were probably trying to I don't know, because that VHS had most I mean, it had some of the really disgusting stuff in there that if they didn't cut that, what the hell would you cut? Yeah? Fair enough. So. Our director and writer on the film is Mark Blair.

33:48 His only credit is NT eighty five's Confessions of a Serial Killer. And that's a fake name. That is a fake name. Yeah, I forget his real name because I'd say something, yeah, I'll, i'll you, you do your thing. Cinematographer on the film, Layton Blair a lock. He gets his start as a second unit in DP on the Adventure of Jody Shannon in nineteen seventy eight, Save the Dog in eighty eight, Heartbreak Hotel in eighty eight, Dream Date the hot Spot, Another Pair of Aces, Three of a Kind, Days, Confuse, Blank Check, eight Seconds Without Consent, She Fought Alone, Suburbia, Roller Girls, Bandslam, Open Windows in twenty fourteen. It wasn't until nineteen eighty five that he gets his first director of photography on Confessions of a Serial Killer, then goes on to be the DP on Horizon Crusader, No Regret in ninety six, Art of the Streets in two thousand and six, Agave Is Life in twenty fourteen, The Greatest Bond in twenty twenty, and most recently twenty twenty two, Robert Irwin A Desert of Pure Feeling, Steve Irwinson, Oh That's Sweet. A cast in the film includes the great Robert ay Burns, who plays Danielray Hawkins.

34:45 He gets his start as art director in nineteen seventy four on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, goes to be the art director in seventy seven on The hillsab She Came to the Valley in seventy nine, Tourist Trap in seventy nine, Don't Go Near the Park in seventy nine, Disco Godfather in seventy nine, Microwave Massacre in seventy nine, The Howling in eighty one, Full Moon High in eighty one, Blood Song, Time, Walker Mausoleum, Play Dead, Reanimator in eighty five, Night Wish in eighty nine. He's also an actor in nineteen seventy nine, Microwave Massacre, I don't remember him in He's one of the construction workers in the bar. Of course. He is the Howling in nineteen eighty one, Confessors of a Serial Killer in eighty five, The Substitute Wife in ninety four. He appears on Walker, Texas Ranger in ninety five, A Woman, A Woman of Independent Means in ninety five, Mohammed's Radio in ninety six. He also directed a film Mongrel in nineteen eighty two.

35:31 Which I have a copy You did get a copy of? Yeah? I got one rip check. Oh. The director's real name was John Dwyer, John Dyer, John Dwyer, who went on to have quite a career in screenwriting. He was the story came the story for Captain ron I have a feeling. He mostly wrote screenplays that went nowhere or that his name was taken off of for you know, whatever stupid reason. But he also made quite a career making commercials in industrial films. I would assume around Austin, Texas. No shit, that's awesome. Robert A. Burns did, of course, unfortunately, pass in two thousand and four May thirty. First, he was sixty when he passed, and as Enrique mentioned, he did have cancer, but he did end up taking his own life to avoid the pain of it. Yeah. Well, I mean it was terminal. Yeah, I remember that much.

36:12 Dennis Hill in the film plays Moon Luten. He gets his start in nineteen eighty two's Mongrel. He's also in the Innocent in eighty five, Confesses of a serial killer in eighty five, Red Headed Stranger in eighty six, Murder Wrap in eighty eight, Ned Blessing The True Story of My Life in ninety two, The Underneath in ninety five, The Secret She Carried in ninety six, Friday Night Lights in two thousand and four, The Sarah Silverman Program, Nuggets in two thousand and seven, and last Into the Blue two The Reef in two thousand and nine. He unfortunately passed in July second of twenty fourteen at age sixty four from cancer as well. Wow. Yeah, young guy. Berkeley Garrett who plays chrifful Games in the film. He gets his start in nineteen to eighty three's Tender Mercies. He also appears in Cloak and Dagger in eighty four, Confesses of a Serial Killer in eighty five, Red Headed Stranger in eighty six, and he unfortunately passed May eighth of ninety seven at age seventy one.

36:57 Wow. So what was your first time watching Confessions of a Serial Killer? Well, as I said, renting the tape from Hollywood Video and sitting alone in my dark teenage bedroom and being mortified. Yeah, and yeah it was. It left quite an impression. That's about That's that's my story. I had found out about the film from an ad preview on a VHS or one of my many trailer sites I looked at back in the day, like Video Detective and whatnot, and luckily tracked down a VHS copy out a flea market. It was at Caesar's Creek Flee Market actually, and there was a dude that had a booth there that had a bunch of VHS tapes that you normally wouldn't find anywhere else, and I knew on my last visit that he'd had this, and so when I found out what it was, I was like, I have to see this, so naturally grabbed it when I was there the next time. The film genuinely disturbed me by its dirty feel, the display of violence and Burns' performance just made me uneasy, but I could not look away.

37:53 Yeah, that's a very fair way to put it. So then a few years ago we screened the director's cut and I was just reminded of how much better I find this film beter than Henry. But I will go into that once we get towards the end. But genuinely, this was a film that just knocked me flat on my ass the first time I watched it. Yeah, very fair assessment, right there. So our movie breakdown as we get started into this, it is June fourth, nineteen seventy four, as we see that this is the reporting of one of the most brutal and violent acts that had perpetuated the country at this point, and we see Daniulray Hawkins driving along the interstate late at night, listening to the radio. He comes across a woman who's broken down on the side of the road, and he offers to help the woman with her car. She tries to start it, and Hawkins keeps an eye on her before telling her it sounds like the carburetor trouble and he cannot do anything about it, but he is happy to drive her to one of the nearest guest.

38:36 Of course he is. He's very happy too. She seems nervous at first, but he reminds her it's late and she may not get another one passing by anytime soon, so eventually she agrees. He walks her to his car. They drive off, leaving her car on the side of the road with the flashers going off. Once moving, Hawkins starts clearing trash out of his car, so he's just moving stuff off the floor and out of the seat and everything, causing her to comment it appears that he's been on the road for. A while, and he replies, ma'am, I have been, yeah, for a long while. And his look he's just kind of a he's got curly hair, kind of a little disheveled, unshaven, with a mustache, and just a pair of thick horn rimmed glasses. Yeah, kind of just just some guy. Yeah, every day actually kind of looks like don't you I mean not wait, you've even got curly hair?

39:23 You can't tell? Pulls my hat down further. Lord, do you even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do You Even? Movie? If I take my hat off right now on the show, I don't know what my hair is gonna look like. But there's a lot of hair up there right now. We're not ready. So silence permiates between them for a bit before she adds that she has also just left Chicago yesterday morning and has been driving since. She's moving to see Antonio to start a new job Wednesday, and that's when a gas station comes into view, which Hawkins drives right past.

40:06 Yeah. Yeah, it's a great scene too. It's very very, very tense. Yeah. So the woman ask him to pull over so she can get out here and walk, but he just keeps on driving, putting up his window because at first he was smoking a cigarette when they started driving. Hawkins looks over to her with really no expression. He just has a stare basically, Yeah. He just kind of acknowledges she's there, Yeah, and then looks back at the road. So the woman begins to cry, stating her boyfriend and her are planning to be married in three months, and she begs him, even offering money to be let out, promising she won't say a word to anyone. Hawkins keeps driving down the dark road and pulls off to the side, stating he's sorry he took her out so far, but he'll take her back to that place now, and she tells him, no, no, no, just let her out here, she's fine. Well, the way he explains away what he's doing, yeah, is he acts like like all because she's scared as shit. Yeah, he acts like he was. He's basically just like, oh, I just thought maybe we could, you know, we'd fool around or something, and you know, that's what I was hoping.

40:57 But no, you're right, like, and she's it's just like, no, no, I'll just get out anywhere. Yeah, anywhere's fine. So he gets out and the woman goes to the door, finding it locked from the inside on his side. Eventually, Hawkins comes around to her side and as she's crawling out of the car, he's taking a knife out of the back of his pocket, opening it and then he slashed her throat and proceeds to stab her, and that's when we get a smash cut to the black text or the black background white text Confessions of a serial Killer. Yeah, hell of a start, and yeah, and it tells you exactly what you're in for. Yeah. And just like with Henry, a very unsettling score. I'm going to give the composer credit towards him in the con trivia. But this is a really good score that I really hope I can track down here soon. Yeah, it's a solid score. So sometime later, we find Hawkins has now been arrested.

41:39 He is being questioned by an officer about the woman's murder. Hawkins remains silent the entire time while the two cops try to intimidate him. Meanwhile, Sheriff Will Gains watches on the other side of a two way mirror, commenting they're never going to get anything out of him like that. So Sheriff Gains goes into the room, telling the boys he's going to take it from here, and he also sends one of the cops out for cheeseburger and fries, even asking Hawkins if you likes chocolate shakes, which he does. Of course he does, so he agrees to, and Gaines introduces himself, giving Hawkins a cigarette and asking about the other people he's murdered. Hawkins tells him he prefers the name Daniel and he'll talk to Gaines, but no other cops. So Gaines then ask Hawkins about the other murders, and Hawkins states he's murdered at least fifty people that he can think of. Then Gaines states that's a lot of people and ask how does he remember the first? Does he remember the first murder he ever did? Hawkins states that he does, and he doesn't know her name, but it was twenty years ago when he was fifteen.

42:29 So when I was fifteen, we flashed. Back, as Hawkins exclaims he was going out to a local brothel we'll get some action, but he saw one woman starting to leave, so he got out of the car and followed her. Eventually, the woman turns around as asking Hawkins what does he want, but he remained silent. She called him a creep and begin to walk away. He goes to grab at her and she tells him to stay away. Hawkins then picks up a block of wood and charges at her with it, describing it as something begin to push inside of him. We watch Hawkins beat the woman to death in the rail yard as the blood begins to splatter and puddle. Hawkins then comments that when she stopped moving, he knew she was ready, but then he was so scared that he got back into his car and left. And the details are grizzly in the film, and every every death there are very few that are like the the scene later on, the only scene of murder in this movie that pulls punches is literally the murder of two young children. Yeah, that's the only one. You don't get like up close grizzly detailed personally.

43:26 Yeah, well, you don't get the the one hitchhiker because you just see her get in and then we see your body. Oh yeah, well that was but that was for artistic but seeing her body was grizzly. Yeah, absolutely so. But but nearly every kill is depicted intensely. Because I feel like to be honest and correct me if I'm wrong, But there's like, really only four on screen murders in Henry, Uh, because you've got the you've got the one that Otis breaks the neck of in the car, You've got the family. Of course that is filmed on camera. Yeah, TV repair guy, and then basically spoilers, otis, you might be right. I think that's it because I think mostly we're just seeing a lot of panning over to the.

44:08 Court aftermath and stuff, which was incredible, incredible way to do it. No, absolutely, So we cut back to the interrogation as Hawkins exclaims it was exciting and he pulled over down the way to pleasure himself. He reveals it would have been July nineteen sixty in Scrannon, Pennsylvania. Gaines asked him if he ever told anyone else about this, and Hawkins states he did not. He just went home to his mother, and Gaines asked him to go into his home life. As we now cut back even further to see Hawkins's a young child with his sister and he starts to think. We cut to the home where we see a man in the wheelchair. We hear Hawkins exclaimed that was his father, who was injured in the war and basically was left in the wheelchair. His mother really didn't tend to him much. We see his mother come home with two men as Hawkins and his sister watched the other side of the room. We watch his mother start to flirt and play with the men. As one begins to grow her Hawkins exclaims that she would have sex right in front of the children, and this would be a nightly occurrence with different men.

44:55 Right then we hear a gunshot go off. His mother goes to check, and we see that his father has taken his own life. And his father, who was some kind of a war veteran and yet who is a confined to a wheelchair, forced to just kind of witness everything all of this, Yeah, not only witness his wife's infidelity, but the mistreatment of his children at the same which is just hell horrifying. And that was in the tape I watched. That's why. Oh yeah, that's why I'm like, I think the VHS had most of it in there. Yeah, because I remember that it stuck out. So his mother goes and retrieves the gun as we see Hawkins witness all this with the sister. Hawkins then tells Gaines he doesn't want to talk about it, but he was thinking about a woman he picked up six years ago on a road he would normally cruise for college girls. The woman goes over to his car and Hawkins tells her that he's got to get the door, and the woman looks in to see a dead body under a blanket. She tells him that she'll get another ride, and he realizes what she saws, and she takes off running and he goes right after her into a cornfield.

45:48 The woman gets a head start and disappears into the corn, but Hawkins keeps after her, eventually finding the flashlight she dropped, He begins to search the field for her as we see her trying to stay low and crawl through the corn. As Hawkins keeps shine the light through trying to find her, we see her stop as the light starts to get close, and then she rolls right in time as the beam almost catches her. This scene is so intense and done so well, Yes, very much so. Hawkins, seeing nothing, makes his way through the corn. The woman goes back to crawling away, trying to get away from as quickly she can. Eventually, Hawkins catches her in the beam of the flashlight and takes off running after her. The woman then comes to a road finds a truck pulling up with another woman driving. She goes to the truck, telling her that a man's going after her, and that's when she's like, you know, get in the car, Get in the car. So she goes on the other side. Hawkins then beats the glass of the driver's side, breaking the window with the flashlight, but the truck then speeds off, and we cut back to the interrogation as Hawkins finishes saying that that was the only time he lost a hitchhiker. Otherwise when they got into the car, they were mine.

46:43 Yeah. And the way he says it, it's so matter of fact, with just a glimmer of joy. Yeah, it really chills you to the bone. He never, legitimately in this movie like has like a crazy look on his face. I would say, no, he gets angry, gets angry, Yeah, but he's always kind of collected and just there. Yeah. Yeah. So the copp rives of the food and gains tells him to bring it in as he goes back into the room with a two way mirror. He requests a psychologist to come in and hear this, and sometime later gains his back with Hawkins asking how he didn't get caught, and he explains that he stuck to the highway nearly put one hundred and sixty miles on one car. One year, he goes into another story in Louisiana, we see a woman get into an altercation with her boyfriend outside of a club. He ends up leaving her while Hawkins sees the whole thing. He quickly pulls up, offering her a ride, and she gets in stating, you bet your goddamn ass I do. So we see that. She asks where they're going, and he tells her that he doesn't know, offering her a beer. She states that she's good because she has what she needs right here, pulling out a joint and lighting it. She even offers the joint to him, and he states he doesn't approve of that, plucking the joint from her hand and throwing it out the window. And that's when she basically says, well, that does say it.

47:46 That's your fucking problem. Yeah, And I love how he's mad that she's like swearing and doing drugs and while he's gonna like rap and kill her. Yeah. Yeah. He adds he didn't improve her language in the attitude, and that's when she finds a BDSM magazine on the floor, commenting on it, you know, saying nice and also noticing that there's a pistol on the floor next to her as well. Eventually, the woman asks to be dropped off so she can call her boyfriend, but Hawkins keeps driving looking forward with no response. She tells him to pull over or she'll get sick, and he tells her go ahead, and that's when she wastes no time at all, grabbing the pistol, telling him to stop the car, which he does. Yeah, well, I mean, wouldn't you. So he stops the car and tells her he needs to open the door from her side. She tells him to stay put open the door and let her get out on that side believe the keys in the ignition.

48:27 But suddenly Moon pops up from the back seat, hawkins partner in crime, who quickly breaks her neck. Hawkins then adds that they both assaulted her before dumping her into a field and driving off. So now we have another character as we introduce Moon, which is hawkins partner in the movie. Yes, and he's representing he's based on the real life Otis Tool or Oddis Tool. Yeah, I think is. Actually he said his name Ottis. So that is when Gaines asks Moon's name and Hawkins confirms Luton Moon Luten and Gaines ask about Moon, and Hawkins tells him he's been apprehended in Baton Rouge at least that's what he heard last, and gain sends a cop to check on this. Hawkins confesses that the Moon and he had a sexual relation, and the cop comes in confirming Baton Rouge has one Moonluten and they want to speak to them about what they've got.

49:07 So and this is where they're starting to realize, like, holy crap, we got a live one. Yeah, So Gain's requests more information from Hawkins and he goes into another story where he and Moon were movers for a woman in Rockdale. We see the two of them in the back of a moving truck working hard, taking a break. As the Moon goes to wipe sweat from hawkins brow. They see a woman in the yard next door chopping away, and that's when Moon notices her too, commenting he was already thinking about paying her a visit later on that night. Yeah. The way these guys just kind of I mean, they're drifters, literally, they're drifters. They just drift around finding victims. Yeah, that's all they do. And that's all we see. So later that night, the young woman is in her home listening to a record when Hawkins knocks on the door, introducing himself as the mover for the neighbor, who mentioned that she was having issues with their ac and since it's so hot, they were happy to come over and take a look and would only charge her twenty dollars to get it running.

49:54 She's unsure because it's late and she doesn't really know them, so Hawkins offers her ten and she agrees, and Moon enters behind Hawkins. Moon acts like he's gonna go fix the unit in the bedroom while Hawkins sits down on the couch flipping through a magazine. The woman offers him a drink, but Hawkins says he's fine. The woman introduces herself as Karen Grimes, trying to make small talk with Hawkins, thanking him, but he just keeps looking and flipping through the magazine and one word answers only yeah. He's completely detached at this point yeah, until he eventually looks over at her and tells her how pretty she looked. Earlier, commenting that she looked good today outside trimming the bushes. The woman is uneasy but thanks him, then gets up to see what Moon is up to. She sees that her front door is still wide open, but she makes her way to the back of the room, finding Moon sitting at her vanity, putting on her makeup and making himself look very pretty.

50:38 Yeah, baby pretty now, mama. So that is when outside we see the window shades are drawn, the lights go out, and we hear the woman's screen. We see the stereo get turned up. Some knives are grabbed in the kitchen. Karen is tied to the bed by Moon as she struggles, the two climb on to the bed, and Moon wastes no time cutting her throat while Hawkins begins to assault her. Yeah, and this is probably one of. The most grim scenes of the movie. Yeah saying something. But yeah, the way they depict her her violent assault and murder. Yeah, they pull absolutely no punches. No punches. And I mean that's one thing with this movie, Henry, I feel like ups the gore a little bit. I mean, I feel it does have some realism too, but I feel like it does up the blood a little bit, where I feel like Confessions is pretty fucking realistic.

51:19 Yeah, No, it's it's very matter of fact. Yeah, And that's one of the things I like about this movie is that it's it's very straightforward, well done in its way. It didn't set the world on fire with its depictions. It is a B movie. Yeah, but boy, they don't shy in this movie. They don't shy away from the fact that he and Moon were sleeping together. Yeah, which they shied away with from completely. And Henry they don't have any reference to him and Otis or Otis. Yeah, be a sleeping together. They also in a little bit when we meet Moon's sister, Yeah, they say she's sixteen. Yeah. And in Henry they made her eighteen or nineteen years old.

52:00 They made her a full blown adult, and which is funny because you split the difference. You're splitting the difference because in reality she was like twelve. Yes, she was very young. Yeah, which is the gross Yeah. Yeah, you think. Do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie. So we come back to the interrogation as Gaines asks Hawkins where he dumped the body, Hawkins can't recall, and Gaines ask if he remembers the address or the location, and Hawkins states he can't. Gaines then calls into question his attention to detail, dropping all of a sudden, and Hawkins exclaims most of the time they were pretty messed up and so it's hard for him to recall details.

52:46 So that's what his deputy brings in a file. We see Gaines with a picture of Karen Grimes as he pulls several additional photos out to make three total, asking Hawkins to identify Karen, so he takes a few seconds before stating he doesn't recognize her. Gaines states he's having issues believing him. All the details so far that he's recalled have been in the newspaper. Hawkins states he's not lying, and Gaines ask him what else was done in Karen Grind's home. There was something specific that was not reported, and that's when Hawkins ask if he's talking about Moon defecating on the floor, and Gaines asked, was that Moon that did that? Hawkins claims that he would do that sometimes and Gains then request the details on where they dump the body. Hawkins starts, but a deputy request him to draw map, so we hear Hawkins describe the path south.

53:27 As we see Gains and his deputies now driving out to the drop spot. He confirms they dropped her off in some bushes by a creek, and we see the deputies going to search. We now see Hawkins with a psychologist asking him if he thinks that he could ever change. Hawkins replies he doesn't know. Killing is like breathing to him. Now. The psychologist thanks Hawkins and leaves, going into the two way mirror room, joining Gaines. Gaines informs him they now have cleared six murder cases and more to follow, because even Canada is wanting to talk to them now. Yeah, of course, and this was back when you could cross the border without a passport. Yeah, all you had to have was a driver's license and you could drive up to Canada and right back in. So the psychologist states he's a textbook case psychotic, but also a constant liar who mixes in the truth sometimes.

54:07 Gaines ask who he can trust, if they can trust him, adding he's been in jail twice before and they've let him go both times and he'll be damn but that's going to happen this time. So Gaines returns to Hawkins, asking him to take a trip tomorrow to help jog the memory. We see them drive on the same place and Hawkins states that this isn't the place that they did. It's actually further down the road. They drive further down till Hawkins exclaims it's right there. They park as Gaines and Hawkins, along with the other deputies, get out, walking over to a bush where they find human remains in the bushes. Yes, which is basically a full one skeleton. I noticed this time. Yeah, yeah, it's been a while. Yeah. So we see the crew now at the drive through enjoying more food. He asks if they're going out again tomorrow and Gaines tells them well, that depends on him, and Hawkins adds that he wants to help so that they can shut these cases, give the victims family closure, even warning other women not to hitchhike. At this point, a server girl comes up to the window to get Hawk in shape, and that's when he plays with her for a second, even holding it back, and then's when he states, you're lucky these guys are here, otherwise you'd be mine.

55:01 Well, it's a great scene because when when when he gets the shake, he says that right as she realizes he's handcuffed. Yeah, So like it's it's a great visual moment because she realizes this is a criminal. And then he says that to her, and the way he says it, he doesn't say it like he's delicious. Well though, he says it like he's saying he'd take her out for a nice dinner. Yeah, you know, He's like, you'd be all mine. It is really mortifying. So that is the term for this film. Hawkins looks over and comments, there used to be a seven to eleven in that location as we cut to another story, as we see him and Moon pull up to a gas station, which is the place that they were just looking at. Moon tells him he wants to get more magazines and may need him to read him some articles, and that's when Hawkins tells him to get the magazines with pictures, but Moon tells them they don't sell those here. Oh, so they should make their own magazine.

55:48 Yeah, he's like, they should make we should make her own magazine with all kinds of pictures. So we see the two make their way into the store as they fill a cart with various food drinks. We see Hawkins steal something while he gives Moon an eye and Moon starts at the starts to check them out. Hawkins asks Moon if he has any money as the man tells them their totals fifty two dollars. He says he left his wallet in the car, and Moon states, I don't worry about it. As Hawkins goes to walk to the car, Moon draws the gun, blasting the store owner, and that's when Hawkins quickly takes the gun from him. Going into a video section towards the back of the store, we hear a woman exclaim no do we see two shots happen, and that's when he goes back to the clerk, shooting him again, before telling Moon to get a move on. Moon comments, holding a camera that they can use this for the pictures for their magazines. Yeah, they're just you know there. He's a little annoyed that Moon just kills the guy. Yeah, but he's mostly just like, let's just get going. It's like it's like me being annoyed with you because like you got distracted on your phone when we're on a hurry. Yeah, you know, like I'm just like, oh, Dave, come on, you killed those people.

56:46 We cut to a bus depot as a locker is opened and we see several shoe boxes retrieved out of it. Gaines brings the shoeboxes to Daniel opening them to reveal piles of polaroids of him, Moon, and another woman who we find out is Molly, murdering people and also various corpses. Gaines, looking through them, tells Hawkins it's important for him to tell him everything from this point on, and Hawkins says, of course, he just forgot about the boxes of pictures. Gaines asks us why he left them at the bus station, and Hawkins confirms they just did that was the best place to put them, going into a story about how Moon's sister Molly joined them at one point and as Rika said she's sixteen, we cut to the three of them outside and enjoying a meal of fried chicken and beer. Molly asked if she can stay with them for a bit, and Hawkins and Moon agree. As Molly offers to show them how to make some real money at what they're doing, telling them that they should go to the bus station.

57:31 Hawkins asked why, and she says they'll see, adding Molly showed them how they could use the bus station lockers to store things for just a quarter for as long as they wanted to. I mean, that is a life hack. So we see Molly go into the bus station as a cop goes past them, worrying Hawkins and Moon, but the cop drives past them, keeps going, and Molly returns to the car with a woman named Jasmine who apparently just broke up with their sugar daddy, and Jasmine is offering to pay for a ride to hang out with them for a little bit as we see them drive off. Short time later, we see the car pulling down the road as it stops, and we see Jasmine's body fall out, completely bloody and dead as they dump her into a field before driving off. Yeah. Back at the interrogation, Gaines asked Hawkins how many kills Molly was a part of, but Hawkins states he really doesn't know, but a good amount.

58:13 They got along well even they were even married, just the two of them, with no official ceremony. Gain asked how Moon felt about this in Hawkins states he was fine because he and Molly's relationship did not involve sex. I mean, that's like the only good thing In Yeah. An officer enters the room with a cart full of photo albums as Gaines explains that they're all missing persons, not just Texas, but all over the country and in what over the last nine years. I think he says something like that. Yeah. So Hawkins ask if he wants him to show him his and Gain says that's exactly what he wants. He wants them to flip through them very carefully and tell them any of the ones that he has murdered. Hawkins flips through a few, stating no to them, but we see a young man. Hawkins confirms that that's one that they did. We cut back as we see the young man walking down the road. As we see the car pick them up, Hawkins exclaims, Moon ask if they wanted to pick him up and have sex with him before killing him, and Hawkins agreed. They pick him up, and Hawkins exclaims that Mood tried to put the Moon moves on him but ended up breaking his neck. When the man refused, they chopped him up and would dump pieces of him down the road every fifty miles or so.

59:14 Jesus. They got fifty dollars off him, though, and ate a nice breakfast the next morning, which Moon thanked Steve wherever he was. He thought, and he referenced that as like a funny anecdote about the meal. He's like, yeah. At one point he said, thank you, Steve, wherever you are, and he laughs yeah. So he flips another photo and claims another victim as a young woman he met at a bar and killed her quick. He flips an album again and Hawkins exclaims he already told Gaines about this one. Gain says he needs a second and lights a cigarette, asking Hawkins to confirm if this is the school teacher he abducted it in a shopping mall, and he confirms that is. He picks up another album in states he knows this one it's one of his, and we cut back to see a shirtless Hawkins and Molly asleep in the grass. He awakens to watch a camper pull away from a parking lot, returns to Molly, telling her that they overslept and all the cars are gone now, so they're gonna have to get a move on and act like hitchhikers since Moon took the car, so they're gonna have to kill someone and take their car. It's gonna be real simple. We see Hawkins and Molly pack up their things and move out.

1:00:10 Molly asks if she should get the ride and have him hide out while they wait, and Hawkins confirms, handing her a pistol, telling her to use it as soon as no one is around. Suddenly, a white car with a flat tire pulls up and Hawkins exclaims this will be easy, telling her to wait over by a tree off to the side. Do you even movie will be right back. Welcome back to do you Even Movie? An older gentleman gets out of the car and begins to work changing a tire. Hawkins offers to help the older man, and that's what he exclaims. If he's offering, he'll take it. Laying down a Bible on the side of the trunk. He asked the man if he's a preacher, and the man exclaims he's not. He's a doctor, doctor Cervix, and that is when Hawkins ask if he wants help and begins to change in the tire and ask if you can get a ride when they're done. Cervix agrees, and Hawkins tells him he's got another he's got something dripping under the car. Molly then comes up behind them as a man goes over look. Molly draws the gun, but suddenly a cop comes into view across the street and Hawkins stops her. I mean the gun's right on the back of his head.

1:01:17 Yeah, she is about to blow his brains out, like and and and the way she's just kind of saying and she's like almost almost. It's like I would compare her to Sherry Moon in House Does and Corpses. But she's not that crazy. He's not baby level, No, she's she's just matter of fact. Now. Moon is much more of like a mad dog killer type. He's he's really relishing in it. Yeah, but but o our lead, he's just very stodgy, and she's picked up on that kind of matter of fact. Moon killing reminds me of the killer in Hard to Die. Oh oh, Pete spell Yeah, yeah, the actor Peter spellos Yeah. Yeah. So Molly draws the gun, but the sparks three, so he stops her from pulling the trigger. That's Cervix states he doesn't see anything, and Hawkins tells him nothing to worry about, but Cervic says. He goes on to explain that he's got a handyman shop. He needs someone who's good with tools, and an apartment comes with a deal if he's interested. The cop siren starts to ring as he drives off, and Cervix helps Hawkins get the tire back into the trunk. Sometime later, we see the three arrive at Service Residents and he introduces them to the secretary, who's Doris, who has to speak with him, asking him what he's doing since he doesn't know them.

1:02:24 He shuts the door and Hawkins and Molly excuse themselves as they begin to wander the property, coming across a young woman who is immediately spooked by their presence. Monica, who is the doctor's daughter, is introduced to them and he tells them to excuse her. She's just that way sometimes. Monica gets up excusing herself, and that's when he tells her to get used to them being around, as that's going to be the new handyman. Yep, because he's a good Christian man who gives opportunities to people who are drifting. Yeah, and he does. Yeah. Yeah, this could not you know, blow up in his face at all. No, no, no, So that's. When Monica goes to leave, she knocks over a radio and the radio break, or so we think. That's when Hawkins picks it up. He fixes it, and he even kind of gives her a look as she walks off, and she's just uneasy completely. Well, yeah, no, I mean he's such a charmer, such a charmer. So that is when Cervix tells him that he to get used to them being around, and Hawkins says that they can make it work, asking if it's okay if Moon stays with them from time to time, and at first he's a little uneasy about this, and he's like, no, no, he's a hard worker, and you know he's he's a believer in God, he's God fearing and he said Christian, Christian, Yeah he should, and then it should be fine. So he leaves, telling them he'll be back later to show them the clinic. Hawkins watches Monica leave, and later we find him and Moon in a car having a drink.

1:03:34 Moon comments that Cervix asked him if he was a God fearing man, and Hawkins tells him not to worry about him. As long as they keep telling him what he wants to hear, they're going to be fine. A young couple with two kids pull up and Moon makes a comment in regards to wouldn't it be fun to have or wouldn't it wouldn't be fun with one of them? I can't remember what he says, have fun with her. Yeah, he says, which one? Yeah, because there's a little child. Yeah, that's one of the most creepiest comments in the movie. Well, when you and I rewatched it when it came out in HD, you I think it was you made a joke, like we were just kind of riffing. Oh, yeah, because which one? And then he says which one? You're like, uhh, yeah, I felt extremely I was. Just making an off color joke. So we see the two drive off and find a stretch of road. Moon pulls over, asking if they want to play a game, and he agrees. We see Mood and Hawkins switch seats in the car and drive down the road, finding two little girls walking down the road looking at a magazine. The car slowly pulls up beside them as a shot rings out, dropping one of the girls dead. The other screams and goes off, running into the field, but a second shot rings out and drops both of them. So, if you're listening at home right now, we just watched two young children get shot dead in this movie.

1:04:37 Yes, and while it was depicted from far away, it's still mortiful. Well, and but it's again, matter of fact mortifying. Yeah, So so that is when excuse me here. Later that night, Monica sits on the couch with their headphones at the house watching TV as Doctor Cervix tells her good night. Moten Hawkin's return as Moon tells him he's planning to leave next check because he's not a fan of working and he misses the old days. We see they're in a new car now. As Molly comes out of the apartment asking where they've been, they exclaim they got a new car. As Molly ask where, and yeah, where did they get it from? And that's when the trunks popped. As a bound and gagged woman cries out and Hawkins states from her. Moon removes her from the trunk and takes her into the apartment. As Molly asks what they're planning to do, Hawkins removes a chainsaw from the trunk.

1:05:20 Gee, I wonder what they're thinking though crazy he packs a chainsaw. Skin your ass, raw, David. This is a heinous moment. Why would you quote limp biscuit. Monica in the house, hearing sounds of the chainsaw running, goes out to the house, approaching the apartment slowly as the chainsaw continues running and revving, and this whole time we're watching her just a slowly approach the apartment, like very carefully, and she's got a radio on to you, but it's drowned out by the chainsaw, so there's nothing to worry about, of course. Yeah, until she gets on the steps of the apartment. The chainsaw dies off, her radio beats for a second, she switches it off, and then she just slowly starts stepping back, and we look and see that somebody is looking at her from the window inside the apartment. Hmmm, oh, I'm sure it's fine.

1:06:00 So the next morning, Cervix secretary gives Hawkins a work order for a woman's refrigerator, asking why can't they fix it there, and she comments Doris comments, because you can't, and she tells them to get get help because it's heavy. As he and Moon go off to leave, Hawkins comments they're gonna do something about the secretary real soon, stopping to admire Monica, who's washing the car. The secretary comes out, reminding them the client is waving, So the two get in the car and leave, but as they leave, Doris looks her over to the apartment and begins to walk towards it. Hawkins realizing they don't have the address. Sometime down the road turns the car around as we see Doris now inside the apartment going through their things, finding a gun as well as bloody knives and machetes under the mattress. She finds more disturbing things as Moon and Hawkins return, which she doesn't notice. Doris finds a bloody chainsaw in the closet, and Moon makes his way up the steps as Molly comes in, handing the address over and she's like, you know, do you forget this? And he's like, the bitch didn't give it to us, and also that they forgot the toolkit, so he has to still go inside the house.

1:06:52 Whoops, whoopsie da. So Doris hides the bathroom, which behind her we see a very bloody bathtub. She hears Moon inside the apartment, hears him leave, and she thinks safe when suddenly Molly pulls back the curtain, stabbing Doris in the stomach. She pushes her off and runs, but Molly tackles her onto the bed, hitting her with the shoe and going to run, but Molly then gets a slash on her thigh. Cervix then asks Monica if he's seen Doris as she reaches the door. We see Doris right outside the door threshold, seeing the doctor asking about her, but Molly handgags her, dragging her back inside, murdering her right there. Yeah, like it's nothing. And that's the scariest part is just they kill like he even says the boy, it's just like breathing. Yeah, And that's the way it is shown.

1:07:32 I mean, he is literally five hundred feet from her as her the secretary just gets stabbed and then pulled back inside. So that night, we see Moon and Hawkins and Molly outside the apartment. As Hawkins tells Moon there's nothing to worry about since she's spread into the field now the buzzles will get to her. Moon states he's still gonna be gone and he might be back in a few months, before driving off, leaving Molly and Hawkins. The next morning, Kriviks goes on it to over a task list before Monica goes out, telling him that there's an emergency. Crytics goes to leave, telling Molly that she shouldn't be outside dressed like this, and that's when he leaves, and Hawkins looks over at Monica before she goes inside. We see Monica getting ready for a shower as Hawkins has entered the house secretly. Now he watches her undress and he gets and watches her get into the shower.

1:08:13 Approaching the bathroom, slowly, a shadow appears outside the frosted glass door, as Monica takes no notice. She continues the shower. She finishes, opening the door and we see no one is now standing in front of it. She gets dressed and wanders the apartment, uneasy because she realizes that somebody's inside, and she feels like she's being watched. Well, and it's so important to point out that the first two acts of this movie have been so violent and disgusting and obscene in like every way. Yeah, now as we're watching her like take a shower and wonder if somebody's watching her, we all know the monsters that are right there. Yeah, she has zero clue, no idea, and it really gets your stomach churning a little bit.

1:08:55 Suddenly a cop knocks on the door, asking if he can speak to her about Doris's disappearance. Explains he wants to speak with Molly and Hawkins, but she and she says that's fine, So she goes into the garage to get into her car and leave. That's when Hawkins ambushes her, but Monica breaks free, running back to the cop speaking to Molly. Monica reaches the cop, but Molly shoots the cop dead. Hawkins grabs Monica and Molly tries to intervene, angrily cutting Hawkins, who wastes no time shooting Molly three times, killing her. Do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie? Yeah, So this is a part that on a rewatch, really hit me hard. She literally she accidentally cuts his arm.

1:09:49 Yeah, because she she I don't know if she's jealous of him touching Monica, but. It was more. I mean, there was a struggle going on and she cuts the side of his arm just a bit. Yeah, And the moment she she goes, I'm so sorry, and he just reflects he shoots her three times, and then after she's on the gun and he shoots her one more. Yeah. Like it. That is one of those moments that just jaw drop. She was the most important person in the world game and on a spur of the moment, Annoyance dead. No problem, don't worry, We'll hear him explain it in a second. Oh, thank good and luckily he has a he has quite a bit of kind words about the whole situation, Thank goodness. Monica takes off running for the woods, grabbing a log as Hawkins comes up behind her she gets a good hit with it, knocking him to the ground. She runs farther away into the woods and he catches up with her, but she shoves him over a log which also has barbed wire wrapped around it, so he gets wrapped in the wire. She runs back to the garage, trying to find the keys for her car, but she finds no keys, and that's when the camera shows that here on the other side where she was not at, so she runs out of the garage as we see the keys on the other side of the car. She runs to the police car, finding no keys in the ignition, and then runs over to the cop, checking his body and retrieving the keys. She gets back into the car, putting the keys into the ignition, but Hawkins pops out of the backseat, grabbing onto her, and drags Monica off to the apartment.

1:11:04 Later that night, Hawkins is back on the interstate driving when a cop pulls him over. Hawkins quickly hides a gun next to him in the seat and pulls over, and the cop gets out, approaching the car, asking him for his driver's license, which Hawkins states that he does not have, reaching for the gun, but then another cop comes along the other side of the car telling him to freeze. Great, fake out because he thinks the cop doesn't have a partner. Yeah, and the partner just pops up, What's where'd your hand go on there? And he's like to get my wallet? Yeah. Yeah, So they. Have him step out of the car and make their way to the back of the trunk, popping the trunk to find a bag of clothes, and then they find a bloody machete next to a burlap sack, which they open to find Molly's head right on top. Well, we could explain, yeah, yeah. So that's what we cut back to the interrogation as dear listeners the final lines of the movie, as Hawkins states he didn't mean to kill Molly and he actually felt bad for Moon about it, before asking Hey, do you think I could get another chocolate shake? Credits?

1:11:58 Yeah, yeah, he just says it. So he's like, I felt bad about it, felt bad for Moon about it. I really didn't mean, I didn't want to kill her, you all, I think I can get another shake, and and that's it. The movie's over. Yeah, And that's possibly one of my favorite moments, is just the fact that we've now we've heard a bunch of his you know, escapades, We've now found out how he got captured, and now we're seeing the reality is. Yeah, he's just sitting in a room. Tell him this stuff. Yeah, and he all he wants in the world is another chocolate. Yeah. I mean, that is absolutely confessions of a serial killer right there. Yeah. Yeah, And I find that ending far more chilling than as much as I love Henry. The suitcase reveal case is horrible and it is sad, but I don't find that nearly as chilling. I mean, I mean the reveal that Henry just like when he realized that this was getting too complicated, he kills her.

1:12:48 Sure, I mean, given Henry does not, we don't see Henry kill her. That's that's that's the big surprise at the end of Henry is the you know, they kill Otis and he's like, we got to get out of here, and they're leaving together, they're driving in the night, and she's like you know, what are we gonna do? And he's like, you know, go ahead and sleep it off. And they're in the hotel and then he walks out the next morning, just him with a very heavy suitcase. Yeah, and he leaves the suitcase in. The inside of the road and then drives away. And I get that. But that's kind of why I think this movie sticks out to me as being scarier in many ways than Henry is the amount of indifference that not only the killer gives, but almost that the film gives. There isn't some big build up and he kills his child bride. She accidentally cut his arm and he's just like shoots her dead and that's that's it.

1:13:34 It's just that that is so much scarier to me. But I mean, and Burns, as we said, is the is the absolute performer in this movie, which makes it work. But I mean, I think what I also love about this is just you get you get a straight up horror film that is not fun because it shouldn't be. I mean, a movie like this should not be fun. And that's you know, as somebody who's a huge slasher fan, it's kind of refreshing to have that. Oh I'm not desensitized like this movie with me, Yeah. Because it just hands you the reality and not much else. There's not a lot of artful moments. There's not all. It's just scene after scene after scene. Well, it's like you mentioned, you know, we unfortunately lost David Lynch this past week, and you mentioned that, like the driving scenes in this are very lynching in but probably not by means.

1:14:18 When he's sitting in the car driving, the car is actually in motion. Yeah, they're they're clearly filming from a like a pickup truck or something. Him driving, but it's the middle of the night and he's almost floating because there's a light inside the car on him, yeah, and nothing else. And I do think the reason it looks so much like a David Lynch kind of like floating driving thing is simply that they couldn't light the highway. Maybe they had no money to light stuff more so, but it really creates this eeriness that the highway is just a big dark expanse where you never know what you might find or what might find you you. Yeah, yes, So would you like to know some interesting things about the film. I would love to so.

1:14:59 Unfortunately, budget information, box office information, naturally does not exist for this movie, unfortunately. Yeah, they didn't suggest anything in the commentary. Really, I mean, if I had to guess, unless you already have a guess anything, If I had to guess this was a one hundred thousand to two hundred thousand dollars budget movie. I really can't imagine a little Texas indy because it's important to remember, like when we covered Scary Movie, Austin was still a towel. It wasn't a big deal like it is now. So this little indie movie in eighty five shot in and around Austin, I just can't imagine them being able to get more than maybe one hundred or two hundred grand to do it because and a lot of those movies that was the budget range back then, I mean Reanimator was like two hundred and fifty grand. Yeah, and then that was a similar time period.

1:15:43 So anyway, So, according to director Mark Blair, shooting the opening scene involving the pickup of the woman broken down on the side of the road was a crazy shoot due to the fact in order for a new take to begin, the car had to speed eighty mile per hour back down the road to the starting position. So that involved leaving multiple crew members to scramble back to their spot, as well as camera assistant as well. Camera assistant John Charon at one point actually called for an emergency stop on the road due to the chaos of a reset. Jesus, that's nuts. Lane Fraser, who plays the straighted Motorists at the beginning of the film, was a college friend of Sidney Brammer, who plays Molly in the film. They were both freshmen to the University of Texas Drama department, where Robert A. Burns was also in attendance. Oh okay okay. Burns originally signed onto the film as just the art director, but when the original lead dropped out due to a higher paying gig, Mark Blair looked out the back to see Burns splashing blood on women, which would be shots used for the polaroids in the film. Blair, along with other producers, watch Burns splash blood, laugh like a madman, and Blair spoke up, there's our Daniel Ray Hawkins. Due to the tight shooting schedule, most of the night of serious scenes were done back to back.

1:16:48 Wow, yeah, I mean I could see that. Yeah, late nights. The Confessons of a Serial Killer soundtrack was released overseas and actually charted a top ten in Belgium. The soundtrack done by the great composer William Penn. Oh. Yeah. Burns designed the interrogation room inside an arts studio on Fifth Street in Austin, Texas. The building also served as location for the Rat Party when filming had concluded. It is worth benching. We didn't mention. Robert Burns was also the production designer on the film Yeah so he was Yeah. The independently made film was picked up for wider distribution by Roger Corman due to its similarities with Henry Ports of a Serial Killer. In nineteen eighty six, Corman decided to delay the film's American release, though it apparently did quite well in overseas markets. When the film finally got a wider release in home country, it was marketed as a knockoff silence of the Lambs, hence the Hannibal Lecter esque mask on the cover. Due to the graphic content in the film, mainstream video rental stores refused to carry the uncut version. The film then fell into obscurity for many years until its creator regained its rights and gave it a remastered release.

1:17:46 Yeah which took a long time, and they'd been teasing for a very long time that it was coming back finally. Honestly, by the time it did, I had already kind of accepted it wasn't going the same. Yeah. The bulk of the cast was made up of people who primarily in theater productions. Berkeley Garrett had a lot of difficulty remembering the dialogue in the film, or his dialogue, and the film received its first ever theatrical screening at a twenty seventeen Austin Film Festival with several cast and crew members in attendance. That must have been incredible, I can imagine. Yeah, So, what are your final thoughts on Confessions of a Serial Killer? You know, as much as I want to say, you have to own it, because to me, I have to own it. If you consider yourself the horror officionado, you have to rent it. You have to see it, experience it.

1:18:32 See how you feel about this version of the Henry Lee Lucas story, which was made pretty much in tandem. Yeah, with Henry Portrait of Sioco. I really think Henry started a year later. I think it did. Yeah, so, but they, I mean, in the eighties being Texas. In Chicago, they were like a world apart. But I think that it's a movie you really need to watch and experience. It's also really interesting that Corman's studio picked it up. They were not picking up a lot of films back then, but they did snap that one up. So I think it's really worth watching. And I hope that thanks to it being proliferated around, yeah, it's finally going to get a lot more of the do it deserves. I do wish it'd have gotten like a fatter, bigger special edition. I wish somebody likes terror Vision or somebody had picked it up and really went ape. But I'm so happy it's here.

1:19:21 I'm thrilled. Yeah, it's an absolute rennit for me as well. I think it is worth a watch just to see Burns performance alone in it. But you know, it goes to that saying that this is a very disturbing film. I mean it has to be with what it's about obviously. Yeah, and you know, if it's not your cup of tea, completely understand it. If you just want to listen to us recap it, that's great. But if you are a horror fistinado, if you are a fan of the true crime documentaries or the true crime films. This is definitely one that you cannot leave unwatched. I mean it is I would call it a masterpiece. And it will not leave you unwashed. So it will need to shower when the film is over. So, speaking of more films to get under your skin, we always like the end to show with a couple of recommendations. My first one this week is nineteen seventy six is the Town That Dreaded Sundown.

1:20:04 Currently available Interesting Pick Texas wells texts arcana. So some of it's in Texas, some of it's a arcana, some is the Louisiana. Currently available on TV and Pluto TV. This is the true story of a hooded mad Men's stocks, lovers lanes and texts arcana in this fact based account of the nineteen forty six killing spree. Yeah from the director that you know was famous for originally for the legend of Boggy Creek. That is correct. Yes. Second recommendation currently available on Max is nineteen ninety two's Man Bites Dog. A film crew follows a ruthless thief and his heartless killer as he goes about the daily routine but complication set in when the film crew lose their objectivity and began lending a hand. I mean, I love that movie, It's so good. But I gotta say I thought, I thought I knew roughly what your picks would be, and they were not at all what I was expecting.

1:20:48 To go on, do You Even movie? Will be right back, welcome back to Do You Even Movie? Well, because I was coming racking my brain for what my picks would be. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what my contenders were. Okay, I thought for sure you would probably say Monster. I was thinking about it with Charlie Throne and that was Aleen Warnos. I was thinking about. That one had a very similar, just grimy, feel great film.

1:21:28 Then I thought, maybe you'd go with or I was thinking of going with Iceman from twenty twelve with Michael Shannon. Shannon. Yeah, the Richard Kolenski story. That's a hell of a film. Even though that Kolinsky is one of those criminals that we again do not know how much is true. I believe that he hung out in gay clubs. I do believe that too. Yes, I do believe that too. Yes, I actually read the book that Philip Karla did, which is the guy that did the night Stalker book? Oh okay, and yeah, I mean Kolinsky the story of Richard Kelensky. From what is told in that book and what we are to believe, the dude killed everybody apparently again, so I mean he killed me, he killed you, he killed me? Fuck? But no, Yeah, I spent's perfect.

1:22:08 That's a good one. But those aren't my recommendation. Yeah, those were ones I was considering, but I had I had like three in case you. Picked one of mine, what is yours mine? This is going to be a surprise, but it's a little bit more of a deep cut. But I was trying to think of of a serial killer story like biopic. That really bothered me. So I went with twenty eleven's The Snowtown Murders Movies, which is available on AMC Plus or Amazon Prime to Rent. Also has a blu ray from I want to say Vinegar Syndrome. I think, well, it is a hell of a film. It's based on an Australian case called the Snowtown Murders. Based on true events. Sixteen year old Jamie falls In falls in with his mother's new boyfriend and his crowd of self appointed neighborhood watchman, a relationship that leads to a spree of torture and murder.

1:22:55 Very disturbing film. When the whole part where he would make people say stuff on a tape recorder. Yeah, and then he would call answering machines and so that no one would look for you. Yeah, that alone scared the ever loving shit out of me. Yeah. From twenty eleven, Snowtown Murders highly recommend that if you need even more serial killer goodness in your life, and who fucking doesn't. Snowtown Murders line up something extremely light after I mean, as you will be Confessions of a serial killer for that matter. Yeah, I mean yeah. The thing that Snowtown Murders has that I think would make it a little wouldn't make it a terrible double feature, is that Snowtown Murders is very polished. It's very it's a professional feature film. It's an Australian movie, so it's got that little point of separation for US Americans.

1:23:44 It's got that odd humor in it at times too. It does, so I think it's a good palate cleanser as opposed to like if you watched Confessions and then like Monster back to back. Yeah, that's a lot of sweaty murder. Yeah, a lot of sweaty murder. A lot a lot of sweaty murder. So yeah, those are my recommendations. And we do have one email last night checked, so let me pull that up. If you guys want to send us an email, you can do so at do you even movie pod at gmail dot com. We love to hear from you, and yeah, send us an email. Tell us something we should watch, something we should talk about, or something interesting, or ask us a question. As our good buddy Colin the young the young viewer it does not want to be fully named, but he did say, hey guys, it's Colin again, so hopefully that's okay.

1:24:31 We say, hey guys, it's Colin again. I would like to know if you will review the movie the Visit. Thank you so much. I think we recommended the Visit to that would be an interesting one to cover. I believe that that was m Night Shyamalan's return to relevancy to great storytelling. I really think that was when that was because I remember I walked I saw that movie on my birthday. I had a big birthday movie Day, and when I walked out, I went Man Shamalan's kind of back and then I think you follow that was split, So then he was truly bad. Yeah, because then he did Glass and then Old was after that. Yeah, yeah, I think you're You're probably right for somebody's. Like Old messes with me big time. Oh Bobby Poor, are you over dirty? But he said one more thing. I saw your intro on YouTube. Please explain why the army and planes and things. I might be too young to understand, but it is quite confusing to me. So for those who are watching us on YouTube, you get a video version of our intro, and basically the reason there's all the stock footage of military planes and all this stuff that is because the music that we that we had created for the show has that big blockbuster movie voice over with the big like action movie music. So I thought it was funny to have it be about us. But then because of the music, try to make it the images match the musics, having like airplane flying and an explosion and stuff. It really,

1:26:02 what it really comes down to is when I was editing our intro, all I knew was that I needed us in it. Briefly because it was introducing us and that was all I had to go with. Yeah, it was my concept to run with, so I just put that stuff in because it made me laugh. That's why the last shot is the rock up soccer robots fighting. I thought that was a really funny touch. So you may be a little young to remember the obscenely constant tent pole in a world where, but that's what we're referencing. It's just kind of a parody of like an epic movie trailer. Yeah, for lack of a better term. It is. It is pure fun. There's no rhyme or reason to do it. It's just pure fun exactly. So that is our email for this week. Awesome. Would you like to know what we are talking about next week on the show. Fine, So we are wrapping up Cold Blood of January. This was of course, our conclusion to it, which means we're moving into February.

1:26:51 And I can think of no better film than to kick off February than nineteen ninety three's ground the Hog's Day Again again, a currently available to rent or buy on Prime, Fandango and Apple. I mean, if you don't know Groundhog. Day, Groundhog Day is not streaming anywhere right now, damn. But I mean I'm sure it's probably on cable soon. Yeah. For Groundhog Day, well played? Yeah, yeah, you know. On that note, we're gonna get out of here, my friends. We're gonna go catch flight risk, Yes we are, but please understand that I really do appreciate you tuning in. Dave not so much. If you email us at do you even MoviePod at gmail dot com, go to douevenmovie dot com for all the information about everything involving the program.

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