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Jan. 28, 2025

Confessions of a Serial Killer (1985): True-Crime Horror

Confessions of a Serial Killer (1985): True-Crime Horror
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Henrique Couto and David Denoyer examine Confessions of a Serial Killer (1985), the independently made Texas horror film credited to writer-director Mark Blair and released more widely in the United States years later. Robert A. Burns stars as Daniel Ray Hawkins, with Dennis Hill as Moon Luten and Berkeley Garrett as Sheriff Will Gaines. The movie is loosely inspired by the Henry Lee Lucas case, but the hosts are careful to distinguish its fictionalized murders from Lucas’s sensational claims, most of which were later discredited.
After Hawkins is arrested, he begins describing killings to a skeptical sheriff. Roadside encounters, motel rooms and memories of traveling with Moon unfold as grim flashbacks, while a recovered body and Polaroid photographs make the investigation harder to dismiss. The episode explores the film’s interrogation structure, rural Texas atmosphere and matter-of-fact violence, including sexual assault and murder. Henrique and David contrast that direct, abrasive approach with the more polished character study of Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.
True-crime context matters here. The hosts discuss how impossible timelines, victims later found alive and incentives surrounding Lucas’s interrogations undermined the mythology built around his confessions. They frame the film as a disturbing artifact of what filmmakers and audiences believed during the case’s early notoriety, not as a reliable record of actual crimes. David also explains why fact-based horror can be compelling without being entertaining in a conventional sense, and why the movie’s lack of glamour leaves such an unpleasant afterimage.
Production history centers on Burns, the art director and production designer associated with The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, Re-Animator and other genre landmarks. Originally hired for the art department, he stepped into the lead after another actor departed and based Hawkins’s unnervingly casual delivery on recordings of real offenders. The hosts cover the Austin-area shoot, Roger Corman’s delayed American distribution, the misleading Hannibal Lecter-style video art and the later restoration of a fuller director’s cut.
Henrique’s affectionate memory of meeting Burns at Cinema Wasteland gives the episode its personal center: the intimidating screen presence became a generous convention guest delighted to meet a fan of this overlooked film. Both hosts recommend at least one viewing for experienced horror and true-crime audiences, while acknowledging that its brutality will repel some listeners. Their related recommendations include The Town That Dreaded Sundown, Man Bites Dog and The Snowtown Murders, alongside a behind-the-scenes discussion of the podcast’s video introduction.
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Do you remember the first person you ever killed?

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I don't know. I never asked her name.

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That was her? Now you'd like to leave her name?

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Which one?

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I know?

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The guy's crazy.

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What I want to know is can we believe is

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not he said he's killed over two?

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One or two? Just what you do?

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All that, just all the time in the eyes of

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a street, the hidings of a drift of there is

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no it seems like killing me. It's just like breathing.

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Everybody else just can't live without doing it all the time.

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In a world where podcasts reign supreme, Two Friends dare

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to ask.

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Do You Even?

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Movie?

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Hosted by filmmaker Enrique Kuto and movie aficionado David Denyer.

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Spoiler alert, Hello everyone, and welcome back to Do You Even? Movie?

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I'm your host, Enrique Kuto here with my good buddy

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co host and always willing to give a hitchhiker a

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ride Double D.

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David Denier, Greetings, and I don't know about that.

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Well. I have to say the legend of Double D

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has spread far and wide, further than I could ever

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have hoped. Last week we actually had a comment I

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believe was on last week's show on YouTube saying double

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D coming in a full blown menace. I think it

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was a comment, but that was from Andrew Scott, one

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of my favorite podcaster and YouTubers. He has many channels,

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but the one I knew him originally from was called

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podcast Is. She's actually the reason I have these microphones.

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He's the I follow his reviews of audio equipment closely,

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and now not only does he know audio equipment, but

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he knows that you are not to be trusted.

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I mean, that's that's fair. After my ice story about

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what was on the car and everything, yeah, it didn't

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feel the absolute best.

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You mean, you mean your public safety so challenge.

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I've been watching a lot of court cam. I can't

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get enough of it, and I can watch all of

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it on demand with my friendly app okay, oh yeah,

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And like there was one recently that was the do

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you remember the story about the kids that threw the

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stuff off the overpass and like actually like ended up

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killing that guy. Oh yeah, yeah that yeah. For some

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reason that kind of registered with me this time around

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where it was just like, oh, yeah, windshields can break

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and like really hurt people.

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Oh well, I mean the windshield doesn't have to break.

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It could just cause enough distraction for them to crash

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their car.

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Yeah that's fair too.

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Yeah, yeah, I.

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Don't want to be a part of that. So I'm

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not going to do that ever again.

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We'll see. I'll just mark that down on my little

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notepad of watch Dave until I.

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like serious snow or ice storm, which hopefully won't be

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for about another week. It looks like, oh.

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We saw earlier this week negative seven degree. It sucked it. Well,

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I mean that was at like four am.

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So, I mean, so my roommate he recently got a

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job at the Sheets I was telling you about, yea,

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and he had to take out trash that night when

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it was like in the negatives. Yeah, he was not

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thrilled about that.

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I think that was Tuesday. That was actually Tuesdayuesday, and

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Rachel and I went to see wolf Man, which I

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had a lot of fun with. I'm I'm getting kind

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of fed up. Maybe maybe twenty twenty four was a

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bad example. We had such an over abundance of stuff

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come out in twenty twenty four. It's very strong year,

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but like it was just everything had to be the

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biggest masterpiece of horror of all time. You had Maxine,

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you had Terrifier three, you had no Speratu, you had

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see I can't even remember all of them. Substance, Yeah,

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this night Swim Well, I mean but you see, and

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then people will like, just like you, They'll they'll chuckle

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that nice swim but nice one was fun.

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I still haven't seen Imaginary and I'm dying.

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That one was a lot of fun. My point is Wolfman.

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Was it the greatest film I've ever seen? No? Was

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it fun and scary? Hell? Yeah? Did I have a

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good time? Was it worth my ticket? Yes? One thing

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I will say for it that they don't really get across.

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I don't know how you would in the trailer. Is

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it takes place in one night? Yeah, but I mean

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like it it literally one night. They get to the area,

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the outskirts of town where his father's old farm is,

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and then that's the it just starts.

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It starts.

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There's no like we arrive at the house, we look

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around and go, wow, you know Dad's gone. But no, no,

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I mean it's like they're almost there and they're being

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attacked by a wolfman. Yeah. Period. Also, whoever it was

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at Universal's you know, horror event or whatever that that

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unveiled the monster that way should be fired because I

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really think they were. I really think that hurt the

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movie immensely because they took what was a pretty scary

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and original design for a Wolfman and then dumbed it

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down to a Halloween costume, a high end Halloween costume

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for Knights of Horror whatever they call it there, and

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it takes all the pardon the pun, all the bite

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out of the actual look of the monster, like majorly

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in the actual movie. We only get glimpses, and they're

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pretty solid glimpses. The movie it's not the wolf Man,

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it's wolf Man. It's not meant to be a new

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telling of the Wolfman, wolf space Man, wolf Man, And

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there's no the It's just wolf Man Man. And thanks

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to Batman, we now know that the makes a big difference.

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Thanks to DC in general, especially run time, well and

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and the Suicide Squad as opposed to Suicide Squad. Yeah. So,

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but it was a lot of fun. I had a

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great time watching. It had some solid scares, It had

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a story that made sense, It had a beginning that

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an ending that made sense and was established by the

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rest of the film. Oh yeah, you know, will I

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watch it a million times? Probably not. But that isn't

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really the goal. Every time I leave the house to

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go see a movie, I would like to see a

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new movie in the theater roughly every week. And the

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idea that that means every year I'm going to see

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fifty two of the greatest movies ever see in my life.

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Like that just sounds stupid. I just don't know how

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you would even pull that off. Yeah, but that's kind

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of the thing. And there are so many good movies

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that come out it's hard to keep up with all

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of them.

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That absolutely is. I mean, I still want to see

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Den of Thieves two, which I know is in theaters

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right now.

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It just came out, just came out.

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We have not seen, damn it. What's the one that

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I'm trying to think of? So I think it's another

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another horror film. I can't remember. There's like three movies

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in theaters I want to see right now.

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Yeah, there's there's quite a few, so I mean, anyway,

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my point is, like I saw comments after I went

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off about body's body's bodies saying, like you know very

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mid fine, I thought. I mean I've actually rewatched it

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a couple of times. Yeah, because it's very amusing. It

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has a great pace and great atmosphere. But I'm not

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saying Body's Body's Bodies with the best film of twenty

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twenty two or whatever it was when it came out.

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I'm just saying, like this obsession with like it's gotta

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be great. I'm bored with it.

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You saw that Substance has like seven Academy Award nominations.

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Which is nuts. Ye, Like, overall, I'm happy about it,

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but I'm also kind of perturbed because that's the breakout

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that gets body Horror and like gross out horror into

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Academy Awards. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not

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against it, but I did when I saw it was

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kind of like, of course it does, because everybody loves

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it and I loved it.

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I was curious if long Leg was gonna get anything,

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and I don't think I got a single time.

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Probably not.

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Yeah, I remember they were actually doing like for your

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consideration for that movie, but.

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You put like a former A list star. I mean

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nothing against to me more. I mean because she also

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had a small role in Landman, and she was phenomenal

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in it. It looks like in season two she's going

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to be a major role in it, So no spoilers,

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but that's really what it looks like. And I think

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it was a wonderful performance. I thought I had a

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good message, So I have nothing against the movie. Yeah,

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it's just kind of that moment where I'm like, that's

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the one that pushed it over.

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Do You Even? Movie? Will be right back, welcome back

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to do You Even?

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Movie? Well, part of it makes me feel like the

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Academy Award people are just wearing the backward cap with

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the skateboard over their shoulder, going hello, fellow kids. I

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enjoyed the substance as well.

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I remembered, like the biggest surprise that I had Academy

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Award wise is all the way back to No Country

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for Old Men winning Best Picture, because I did not

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expect that to happen.

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That makes sense though, I mean, that's a Cohen Brothers.

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Right, Yeah, but it was. It was just it didn't

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it didn't seem like it because I can't remember. There

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was a bunch of it was up against that year,

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like a lot of a lot of big titles.

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Well usually they don't run on the post.

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Yeah, yeah, weird if they did. But now I just

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remember that being a big upset to like the point

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where our good buddy Andy Copp even commented that it

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was like comparison to Signs of the Lambs winning that

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people didn't expect.

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I would agree, though, I mean, but with Cohen Brothers,

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it's like you expect it to at least get a nomination. Now,

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if Substance one Best Picture, I would be amazed and

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I would be very happy, I hope. So right now

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with all of the nominations and unless they win something

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of value other than like Best Editing or something. Yeah,

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I don't know if they were nominated for Best Editing,

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but you know what I'm saying. I also don't watch

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the Academy Award.

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I don't either. I just look at the page the

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next day to see what.

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I just see. Who's complaining? I like, I got nothing,

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you know, I got nothing. I got no love loss

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for the Academy Awards, but like it does kind of

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feel like hello, fellow kids. Now, if they get an

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award of Substance, then I will be impressed.

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Yeah, no, I would too, because you know, if like.

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That gets Demi Moore an Oscar. That would be crazy,

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it'd be awesome, it would be dope. Yeah, has she

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had an Academy Award before GJE might have been g

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I Jane. Maybe it would still be it would be

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an incredible thing. But for now, I'm just kind of like, Wow,

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they're really hoping that, like people will tune in that

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are younger. And that's a big problem with this entire market,

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with this entire the film world is it's an it's

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it's like people our age and older are most of it.

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The younger people they're really struggling. Like I remember when

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I saw the trailer. Granted this was before I found

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out the movie wasn't very good. For Good Burger too,

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I I do you remember when I saw a trailer?

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I think I turned to you and I just said and

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I just said, fuck trying to get young people to

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watch movies. You letting us have money? Right, you'll come

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and watch it, right, You'll you'll pay money. The movie

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was so disappointed. It was it was not great. But

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but yeah, so same thing with like, you know, when

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there's a new Indiana Jones and I was like, wow,

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they are just they're okay, cool, they're just like, okay,

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never mind, we can't get zoomers in here. So anyway,

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regardless of all of that, our movie tonight is a

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film that is near and dear to my heart for

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several reasons, and one of them is that for me personally,

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it was a literal VHS video store discovery, yeah, which

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for someone my age is the height of nostalgia. And

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it wasn't. And it wasn't like you know, I found

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the tape at a trail, No, this was it was

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at Hollywood Video, right there on the shelf in the

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in the crappy clam boxes they use, the weird case

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boxes they use this.

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And this would have been not to date you, but

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this would have been.

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Well, no, we're just friends.

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It wasn't. It wasn't like release like it was. It

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was like it had been out for a bit, right.

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Oh, this tape was from nineteen ninety two, okay, okay, yeah,

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or ninety one or ninety two.

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That was at the my the legendary Holly Video near

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my house that was originally a movie gallery. Yeah, and

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they had that's where I first saw Evil Ed. They

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had the double tape of Donna the Dead just on

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the show that was.

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So sure you rented multiple times, you have no clue.

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Oh my god. I would rent the double tape and

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I would just watch both versions and then watch all

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the they had, like all the foreign trailers on one of.

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The tapes tape.

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I would just watch it all the way to the end.

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Just I just wanted more Donna the Dead. So, but

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that being said, this one was kind of special because

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I'd never heard of it. I'd never seen anything about it.

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I'm probably twelve or thirteen, which is way too young

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to be watching.

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This, I would say. So.

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Yeah. The film Tonight, by the way, is well nineteen

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eighty five is although released in the US in nineteen

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ninety one, Confessions of a Serial Killer. And if you've

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not heard of it, that's your problem. You should rent

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it on Amazon or rent it on fandango at home

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right now on Amazon. Oh, that's so worth it. It's

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a great film, is about It is loosely based on

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the killer Henry Lee Lucas. And I know what you're thinking, Well,

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there's Henry portrait of serial killer. They made this first.

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This was made first. By the time it was ready

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to come out, Henry had gotten all the buzz and

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as I said so eloquently a couple of weeks back,

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it's kind of like Paul Blurt mole Coop and Observant Report.

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This is such a comparison that so works well.

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And nothing against Henry for being Paul Blart Mallcop. The

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cruel irony of this is Paul Blart Mallcop in this

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example is that Henry, although it's intentionally grimy and all this,

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it's much more polished. It's very character driven, phenomenal performances,

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very artistic, and it became a cult phenomenon as to

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where Confessions kind of came and went and is very

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slowly get revved up and become something that people are

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interested in watching. And now you could mean the And

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we found out you could rent it an HD. By

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it an HD, we flipped out, and then a year

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later it was on blu Ray Ye couldn't believe it, Yeah,

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because it had been picked up by Roger Korman and

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sat on for a while, and they slapped the notorious

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Hannibal Elector mask cover on it, which is what I remember.

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But then there's a second part to it. I don't

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know when you want me to tell my Robert Burns' story.

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If you want me to wait a while.

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Say let's let's just go ahead, go go ahead, and

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go ahead and talk, because I think I think at

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this point this will give kind of an introduction into

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it as we get into it as well, because Henry

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Ly Lucas, as many know that are listening to this,

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as one of the most notorious serial killers because he

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claims to have killed more people than he possibly could have.

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Yeah, yeah, like and not like possibly could have from

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a like a moral standpoint, yeah, but from a literal

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logistical standpoint, he would claim he killed people that were

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four hundred and fifty miles apart within like eight hours.

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He claimed he killed people that were still alive.

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Yep, Yeah, into the numbers of two hundred, like he

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claimed over two hundred.

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Over two hundred people he claimed he kill. And then

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like later on when the Satanic panicap and all of

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a sudden, he claimed that he was a part of

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a cult. He was a liar, He was a pathological

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liar who a lot of people think he probably killed

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maybe ten fifteen people somewhere in that neighborhood. But at

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the time of this film's being made and at the

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time of Henry portrait of serial killer being made. People

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were buying it, and it was very scary because when

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people would say, how did you get away with this?

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He was like, I just kept driving up the highway.

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Stuck to the highway the roads I knew.

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And people were mortified because they were like, it's that

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easy to just keep getting away with it and getting

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away with it. And one thing that Henry did that

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I didn't like that Confessions does right real quick. And

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then I'll talk about Robert Burns, the lead actor in Confessions.

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Even though they mentioned that Henry is like a vagabond,

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he just hangs out in Chicago the entire movie. And

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one thing I like about this one is while it's

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very Texics centric, which is where Henry L. Lucas was

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caught and all that, he's on the road like the

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entire film until the third act last, so which I

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like because I feel like that gives more of a

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kind of an accurate depiction of Henry Lee Lucas.

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It gives you a curve ball in that third act

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because like, you know, we'll get into what we talked

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about the movie, of course, but you know you're on

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the road with him. That entire time, and then he

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gets to a place where it's just like he has

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prime victims at any point. Yeah, that could be on

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the Pickens and you're just basically waiting to see what happens.

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Yeah, yeah, and it's so anyway, we'll get into the details.

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But I have a very personal story about Robert A. Burns,

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the gentleman who plays oh gosh, what was his character's name,

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Daniel Ray Hawks Daniel Ray Hawkins. That's the other thing.

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This film took way more of the actual, at the

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time known Henry story than Henry did, but they changed

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all the names as where Henry used all the names

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for the most part. Yeah, which is a bizarre l

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odd So Robert A. Burns, you'll go through his filmography,

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but he became very well known as a production designer.

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His first feature of note that he was the production

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designer on was a little Texas indie movie called The

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Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Never heard of it, me neither, But

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he was the guy when you watch that film, he

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was the guy who made the bird cages full of chickens,

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the furniture out of bones. He was the guy who

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did all of that and a lot more. He also

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did re Animator The Hills Have Eyes. He did a

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lot of interesting pieces, and this is the only film

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where he was a lead actor. He had popped up

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in friends films, you know, here and there, and he

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was notorious for being lighthearted and fun to be around.

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Exactly and one year at the Cinema Wasteland convention, I

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want to say in two thousand and two, cool, it

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would have been two or one. Robert A. Burns was

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a guest, and I got excited because I was a

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Confessions of the Serial Killer fan. Yeah, even though most

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people were there for him to sign reanimator stuff and

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Texas Chainsaw stuff. So I remember, now I'm a teenager,

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and it would have been been fifteen, sixteen years old,

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maybe even fourteen. When he was sitting at his table,

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I actually found myself terrified of him because they didn't

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do much to his appearance in Henry or in the Confessions,

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and neither did they in Henry. They just let the

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actor be the actor. They didn't do his eye and

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all that weird stuff about him. So when he was

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sitting there, literally he was just the character from Confessions,

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and he creeped me out a little bit. So I

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had to get myself boost myself up. And then I

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went over and talked to him. So nice, so excited

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to talk. But when I said that I was a

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big fan of Confessions of a serial Killer, he lit up.

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That's awesome.

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He was just like, man, you're your kidding me, and

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I was like, no, no, And he told me about

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how he had had to audition at the last minute

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to be the lead, and he had watched tapes of

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Lucas and other serial killers because he had seen other

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auditions and they were playing, you know, just kind of

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like maniac guy. So he watched it and he was like,

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I just sat down and I was like, yeah, I

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killed her five weeks ago, and he was like, I

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just played it so cool, because that's how those guys

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do it. They like it's like they're telling you what

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they got at the grocery store. Yeah, And we talked

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for twenty thirty minutes, and then he told me he

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was like, I got to show you some So he

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gets out of suitcase, a brief little briefcase thing, and

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he opens it up and there are twenty or thirty

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folded posters for the original video release of Confessions of

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a Serial Killer. And he literally says, I found these

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in the basement. Should you should have one? That's so cool?

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Now I can't remember, sincerely, I cannot remember if he

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charged me a dollar for it or if not, but

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but he was like, you should get one of these.

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You should have one of these, and he signed it

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to me want to ride?

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Yes he did because I just saw that poster.

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Because it's hanging in my bedroom.

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Yep.

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That poster has been very special to me for lots

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of reasons, one being that it's impossible to find them.

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I've never seen one on e I've never seen one

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in a horror group. I have no idea if I

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was the only first who bought one that weekend.

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Do You Even Movie will be right back, welcome back

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to Do You Even Movie?

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The next year at Wasteland, or it may have been

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six months later, something like that, he was just there again,

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not even on the guest list, No, no, he just

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was there.

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That's awesome.

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Robert Burns had never done a convention before at that time,

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and Wasteland was his.

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First, which is a perfect one to go to, and he.

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Was mind blown by all the fans and all the

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enthusiasm and all the camaraderie. He liked it so much

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he came back, and I believe both times he was

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videotaping stuff, like just capturing it because he wanted to

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remember it from posterity. And he would always flag me down,

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like if he walked by my table or if I

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was walking around and we chat a little bit. He

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was so fucking friendly, and we exchanged an email or

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two long time ago, obviously, And one of my favorite stories,

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which I was not directly involved with, was Ken Kish,

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who owned Cinema Wasteland. When Bob was there, Robert Burns

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was there. It was in it was in April. It

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was the April Show, and it had snowed because we

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were by the Great Lakes and everything. And I guess

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Robert Burns was walking somewhere and Ken put packed up

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a snowball and whacked him in the back with it.

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When he turned around, Ken went, Welcome to Spring in Ohio.

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It's one of my favorite Robert ay Burns stories. So

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he was running around the con. He had his video

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camera out, he was filming stuff. He had uploaded clips

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to his little website. He had robertie Burns dot com. Yeah,

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and then a year or so goes by and I

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get word that he's passed away. He had been diagnosed.

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I'm sure you have the actual, the full details, but

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even diagnosed with a terminal form of care answer, and

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he chose to take his own life. Yeah, he left

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a kind of a I don't want to say suicide

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note because that's so heavy, but he left a message

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on his website for everybody. Yeah, and it literally said along.

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I'm paraphrasing because I'd never looked at it again, but

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he basically said, like, you know, I'm a movie fan.

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I've always been a movie fan. I love movies, but

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I've never thought it was wrong to walk out of

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a movie if you were positive that you were no

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longer going to enjoy it. And the picture he put

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was a picture he taken of himself laying in front

466
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:37.440
of a tombstone. I think he'd built that, said burns

467
00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:37.920
on it.

468
00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:39.400
I've seen that picture.

469
00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:45.359
Yeah, and possibly one of the first like acquaintances that

470
00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.359
I ever knew to die. Yeah, very possible because it

471
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.480
was four, so i'd have been seventeen, sixteen years old.

472
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:53.680
I hadn't even had a grandparent die until two years later.

473
00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:59.319
So that made this movie and that poster mean an

474
00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:00.519
immense amount more to me.

475
00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:01.720
Yeah, understandable.

476
00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:05.400
And he was just a real one man. And I

477
00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.880
just sometimes I just stop and think about how lucky

478
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.759
I was. I got to have that experience, to meet him,

479
00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:13.640
to talk with him, to nerd out about movies, and

480
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.200
to nerd out about his performance, which he was very

481
00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:16.640
proud of.

482
00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:18.200
Yeah, and he should be Yeah.

483
00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:23.279
Yeah, but a guy who was a guy like Robert A. Burns,

484
00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:26.960
who was larger than life in every way, this big

485
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:32.559
old Texas cowboy guy, loud voice, lots of jokes, never

486
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:36.279
really wanted the spotlight though it was the weirdest thing

487
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:39.319
in a room he would get all the attention.

488
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:40.720
Yeah, but he.

489
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:42.880
Never wanted to be on camera. He never wanted to

490
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.039
be He was never He never wanted to be a

491
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:47.640
big actor. He never tried to be a lead again

492
00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:50.640
that I know of. He was just Robert A. Burns.

493
00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:51.519
He was just this guy.

494
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:55.000
Yeah. He was talked about immensely on the commentary track

495
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:58.119
on this disc nothing but great things to say about him.

496
00:24:57.920 --> 00:25:00.599
From the director to the cinematographer to the co star

497
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:03.279
who plays Molly in the movie, they had nothing but

498
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:04.519
amazing things to say about him.

499
00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:06.680
Yeah, I've never heard a negative word about him. Yeah,

500
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:08.160
I mean the worst I've ever heard about him was

501
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:10.720
when he would put his foot down about safety on

502
00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:13.920
the set or put his foot down about animal protection. Yeah,

503
00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:15.680
and stuff like that. Those are like the only negatives

504
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:17.599
of her is like, yeah, Robert Burns wouldn't let me

505
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:19.440
do this because he said it was too dangerous for

506
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:21.359
the animals on sat or he said it was too

507
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.680
dangerous for this, or that he would Yeah. So yeah,

508
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:29.000
Robert A. Burns was a great dude. And I'm so

509
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:30.680
glad we could talk about this movie. And I'm so

510
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.400
glad that I could. I could kind of share it

511
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:34.839
with people. I've shared it with a lot of people

512
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:35.359
over the years.

513
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:36.119
Yeah.

514
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.880
But yeah, I don't know. I mean I didn't know

515
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:43.599
him that well. Yeah, obviously, I guess, but he left

516
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:47.559
a real bark on me. Yeah, so that's all. And

517
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:51.200
and it should also be mentioned man like I was

518
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.039
a literal kid, and he would go out of his

519
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:56.920
way to be super friendly, to give me a little shout,

520
00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:58.599
give me a wink, give me a point, stop and

521
00:25:58.640 --> 00:25:59.119
talk to me.

522
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:02.799
It means a lot. Yeah, No, it really fucked, It

523
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:03.279
really does.

524
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:03.400
No.

525
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.720
I mean as somebody who has been going to Wasteland

526
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:09.440
since seven now, and I actually just observed my hotel

527
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:13.480
room today for April show. And it's just that's to

528
00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:16.880
give to give Wasteland a good moment here. It's just

529
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.599
it is a convention unlike any other. I mean, you

530
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:22.759
when you go to conventions like Day's the Dead and Horrorhoum, like,

531
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:24.799
they have the standard convention feel. You've got the room

532
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.759
where the celebrities are, You've got the room where the merches,

533
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.680
you've got the bar. Walking Dead had taken over, you know,

534
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.119
big time when I was in college. So I mean

535
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:34.839
those conventions were nothing but that Wasteland has always been

536
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:38.160
that convention to where the people that they get may

537
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.559
not be very popular names or may have done like

538
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.839
very cult films in that regard. But I've never met

539
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:46.799
anybody that's like a legit jerk at Cinema Wasteland.

540
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:49.720
I've met tons. I mean, I get that, But that

541
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:52.400
doesn't mean that it's not a great time, a great show,

542
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:54.200
and a place where in many ways I grew up.

543
00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:56.599
It's a very intimate setting, more so gody than any

544
00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:58.200
other con Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's.

545
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:00.279
At a holiday in ballroom. Yeah, I mean now, it's

546
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.079
best Western conversation for another day.

547
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:06.519
So are you ready to get into Confessions of a

548
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:07.119
Serial Killer?

549
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:07.880
Why the hell not?

550
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:10.799
All right? So, Confessors of a Serial Killer nineteen eighty five,

551
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:12.880
as Enriquez said, does come out, doesn't come out until

552
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:15.960
nineteen ninety one, one hour and forty six minutes, rated

553
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:17.880
R for basically everything.

554
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.279
That's a very good way to put it. Yeah, they're swearing.

555
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.599
There's killing, there's raping, there's just everything. There's a lot

556
00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:26.480
the sun, there's a lot.

557
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:29.359
So the IMDb synopsis says, after being arrested, a Texas

558
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.519
man begins confessing to the brutal murder of over two

559
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:34.319
hundred women. He recounts his random selection of victims and

560
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.240
his traveling companions, his friend and his friend's sister, but

561
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:39.160
the police can't be sure whether to believe him or

562
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.960
not until he locates a body and shows them some polaroids.

563
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.079
Based on the true story of Henry Lee Lucas my

564
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.680
subsit wordy Yeah my synopsis. When serial killer Daniel Ray

565
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.480
Hawkins is arrested, he begins to confess to multiple unsolved

566
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:53.920
murders to Shareff wool Gaines, who doesn't believe him until

567
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:55.440
Hawkins leads him to a body.

568
00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.440
That's pretty good. Oh so, I mean, yeah, yeah, you know,

569
00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.720
I I'll give you a mild mannered applause.

570
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:03.359
Ooh, I'll take it.

571
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:05.920
I mean, no, that's pretty pretty good. I mean, it's

572
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.079
really just it's just what happened to Henry. He gets

573
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:11.440
picked up, he starts confessing to a bunch of stuff. Yeah,

574
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.200
And I mean they got it down to the fact

575
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.759
that one of the reasons they think he was confessing

576
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:19.640
so much was his treatment was better when he was confessing. Yeah,

577
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.200
he'd get to leave to go take them around places.

578
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.519
They'd buy him fast food, most famously as hamburgers and milkshakes,

579
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.799
which he loved. And that was one of the big

580
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:30.079
impetuses for him confessing to so much was the cops

581
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:31.920
were so much nicer to him. The more the more

582
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:33.599
they would show him a picture of a dead Percy

583
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:35.720
go I killed them because they were so happy to

584
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:36.599
be closing.

585
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:37.319
All these cases.

586
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:40.880
Yeah. And whether you think that that was from a

587
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.400
place of who cares, let's pin it on him, or

588
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.559
it was from a case of legitimately, like we have

589
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.640
some of the unsolved murders, because Texas has especially has

590
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:51.599
an immense amount of unsolved murders. Yeah, a crazy amount,

591
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:55.319
and a crazy amount of murders too, so especially in

592
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:55.839
that era.

593
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.759
Well, I mean, yeah, nineteen seventy four is when we

594
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:01.000
get the text for the original of the movie and everything.

595
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:03.640
But like people forget that, like the seventies and eighties

596
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:05.720
was the haven of serial killers.

597
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:09.759
Well, and violence and murder in general just insanely high

598
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.119
in the seventies, eighties, the sixties even there was so

599
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:17.960
much violence and murder it was becoming very commonplace. It's

600
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.680
a cruel irony when you watch the movie Killing of America,

601
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:25.359
the shockumentary. But like they talk about like how awful

602
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:28.519
and violent the United States is, the cruel irony is

603
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.440
that they stopped. I mean that movie was made when

604
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:35.200
we had one of the greatest improvements in crime and

605
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.920
violence and murder in America, which was through the nineties

606
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.599
into the early two thousands. So literally they were at

607
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:43.759
the height of when I mean you could literally there

608
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.200
were like bomb threats being called into schools daily all over.

609
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.359
Sometimes places were blowing up. There was a point in

610
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.119
our time in our history, in the seventies especially where

611
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.960
like someplace would blow up and they would literally have

612
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.400
to be like, who did this? I mean, they would

613
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.079
literally have to be like, was it like a left

614
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.799
wing group, a right wing group? Was it the Black Panthers?

615
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.279
Was it the was it the weather underground? Was it

616
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.920
Neo Nazis? Was it Palestine? Palestine? People Like they literally

617
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.799
would be like, we gotta wait until somebody claims.

618
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:14.319
It, someone claims it.

619
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:18.079
Yeah, and we forget that a lot, very easily. That

620
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.359
that times were very very scary, very scary. So and

621
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:24.400
and and this is a good example because that was

622
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:27.119
kind of the height of when we understood serial killers

623
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.160
were a thing, was in the seventies. Yeah, basically, I

624
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.759
think really after the Manson murders was when people started

625
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.359
to really go like, who are these psychos? Yeah, and

626
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.480
and and how can we learn about them more and

627
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.359
send them wedding proposals if you're a if you're a

628
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:40.920
white woman.

629
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.559
It definitely true crime interest. When Heller Skeller was released.

630
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.880
Oh yeah, no, without a doubt, both.

631
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.559
The book form and the original movie.

632
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:52.599
Yeah no, without a doubt. And and the sad truth

633
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:54.839
is a lot of these people, people like Henry Lee

634
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:58.359
Lucas or Ed Kemper or any of these serial notorious

635
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:03.359
serial killers. They are all just like poor people. Yeah,

636
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.519
and and this was like in that era especially, like

637
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:08.720
it was like if you wanted to become famous when

638
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:10.880
you were born the way like those guys were born,

639
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.279
you either you either got good at singing, you got

640
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:16.359
good at acting, or you killed a bunch of killed.

641
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:20.720
A bunch of people. Yeah. Unfortunately, Do You Even?

642
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:32.400
Movie will be right back. Welcome back to Do You Even? Movie?

643
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.519
So our taglines include for the movie, a step inside

644
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.440
the mind of a killer. That's pretty good, A true

645
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.680
story of America's most twisted serial killer.

646
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.400
That's pretty all right. That's it on the poster I have.

647
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.759
It doesn't even have a tag a quote about the movie.

648
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.079
It just says, Henry Lee Lucas is not only the

649
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.240
most you know whatever serial killer, but possibly in the

650
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:01.359
entire world or something like that. And it's the quote

651
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.200
from a guy who wrote a book about Henry Lee Lucas,

652
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.559
which I love because it's like it's not even technically

653
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:06.160
about him.

654
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.039
He might be the guy. There's a there's a brief,

655
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.480
like seven minute interview with the guy on a disc

656
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:12.279
for this and it is about Henry Lee Lucas. And

657
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.559
it was the guy that did a TV special on him,

658
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:17.079
or like broke the news report.

659
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:19.440
It could be. I just remember looking at it, going,

660
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:21.119
that's not a quote. It was a quote, but it

661
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:22.960
was just about Henry Lee Lucas. It wasn't about the

662
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:23.920
movie itself at all.

663
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.759
So Confessed with a Serial Killer is currently available to

664
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.680
rent or buy on Prime Fandango wherever your movie's at.

665
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.759
My will once again shout out the Blu Ray from

666
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:35.119
Unearth Films and MVD Entertainment. Beautiful transfer, a bunch of

667
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.279
bonus features, and first time it's been available on Blu Ray,

668
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.319
but first time it's been available in what a decade plus.

669
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:43.720
Well, I don't believe it ever had a Region one DVD.

670
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:44.480
I didn't at all.

671
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.960
It only had the Region two DVD in the early

672
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.039
two thousands. Okay, so which was very sought after and

673
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:50.680
was cut.

674
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:52.920
Yeah that makes sense because I mean this is the

675
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.039
full director's cut the week.

676
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.759
Yeah yeah, no, this version was almost seen nowhere. Now

677
00:32:56.799 --> 00:33:00.279
the vhs I saw had most of the heinous stuff

678
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.599
in there because I'm scarred, remember my wife, yeah, child

679
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.400
watching it, so I remember it very vividly.

680
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.440
Yeah, because I mean I think at least pulled up

681
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.000
as I've already got it pulled up here. I think

682
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.920
the like actual theatrical cut is like fifteen minutes shorter. Really,

683
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.279
let me check, it's an hour and twenty Yeah, eighty

684
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.680
nine minutes is the original run time and one hundred

685
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.319
and ye hour and forty six one hundred and six minutes.

686
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.000
I'd have to look at what the differences are because

687
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.759
they might have cut out a lot of gibber jabber two.

688
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.039
I know that the a lot of the surprising deaths

689
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:30.880
that I'll be talking about here in a second are

690
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:32.640
are missing from it originally.

691
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.319
Well the theatrical cut too. Yeah, they were probably trying

692
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:39.519
to I don't know, because that VHS had most I mean,

693
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.640
it had some of the really disgusting stuff in there

694
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:44.440
that if they didn't cut that, what the hell would

695
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:44.680
you cut?

696
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:45.440
Yeah? Fair enough.

697
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:45.880
So.

698
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.519
Our director and writer on the film is Mark Blair.

699
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:50.880
His only credit is NT eighty five's Confessions of a

700
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:51.759
Serial Killer.

701
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:52.480
And that's a fake name.

702
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:53.200
That is a fake name.

703
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.279
Yeah, I forget his real name because I'd say something, yeah, I'll,

704
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:57.720
i'll you, you do your thing.

705
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.920
Cinematographer on the film, Layton Blair a lock. He gets

706
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:03.079
his start as a second unit in DP on the

707
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.599
Adventure of Jody Shannon in nineteen seventy eight, Save the

708
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.199
Dog in eighty eight, Heartbreak Hotel in eighty eight, Dream

709
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:10.840
Date the hot Spot, Another Pair of Aces, Three of

710
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:14.599
a Kind, Days, Confuse, Blank Check, eight Seconds Without Consent,

711
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.320
She Fought Alone, Suburbia, Roller Girls, Bandslam, Open Windows in

712
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.239
twenty fourteen. It wasn't until nineteen eighty five that he

713
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.679
gets his first director of photography on Confessions of a

714
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:26.880
Serial Killer, then goes on to be the DP on

715
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:29.920
Horizon Crusader, No Regret in ninety six, Art of the

716
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.280
Streets in two thousand and six, Agave Is Life in

717
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.199
twenty fourteen, The Greatest Bond in twenty twenty, and most

718
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.719
recently twenty twenty two, Robert Irwin A Desert of Pure Feeling,

719
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.079
Steve Irwinson, Oh That's Sweet. A cast in the film

720
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.639
includes the great Robert ay Burns, who plays Danielray Hawkins.

721
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:47.679
He gets his start as art director in nineteen seventy

722
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:49.880
four on the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, goes to be the

723
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.400
art director in seventy seven on The hillsab She Came

724
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.960
to the Valley in seventy nine, Tourist Trap in seventy nine,

725
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.480
Don't Go Near the Park in seventy nine, Disco Godfather

726
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.000
in seventy nine, Microwave Massacre in seventy nine, The Howling

727
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:04.280
in eighty one, Full Moon High in eighty one, Blood Song, Time,

728
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:08.280
Walker Mausoleum, Play Dead, Reanimator in eighty five, Night Wish

729
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.239
in eighty nine. He's also an actor in nineteen seventy nine,

730
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.239
Microwave Massacre, I don't remember him in He's one of

731
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:15.519
the construction workers in the bar.

732
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:16.320
Of course.

733
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.320
He is the Howling in nineteen eighty one, Confessors of

734
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.480
a Serial Killer in eighty five, The Substitute Wife in

735
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:24.360
ninety four. He appears on Walker, Texas Ranger in ninety five,

736
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:26.840
A Woman, A Woman of Independent Means in ninety five,

737
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.039
Mohammed's Radio in ninety six. He also directed a film

738
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:31.519
Mongrel in nineteen eighty two.

739
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:33.559
Which I have a copy You did get a copy of? Yeah?

740
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.119
I got one rip check. Oh. The director's real name

741
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:40.400
was John Dwyer, John Dyer, John Dwyer, who went on

742
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.599
to have quite a career in screenwriting. He was the

743
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.840
story came the story for Captain ron I have a feeling.

744
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.519
He mostly wrote screenplays that went nowhere or that his

745
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.960
name was taken off of for you know, whatever stupid reason.

746
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.599
But he also made quite a career making commercials in

747
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:56.960
industrial films. I would assume around Austin, Texas.

748
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.000
No shit, that's awesome. Robert A. Burns did, of course, unfortunately,

749
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.599
pass in two thousand and four May thirty. First, he

750
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.480
was sixty when he passed, and as Enrique mentioned, he

751
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.280
did have cancer, but he did end up taking his

752
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.000
own life to avoid the pain of it.

753
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.679
Yeah. Well, I mean it was terminal. Yeah, I remember

754
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:12.159
that much.

755
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.599
Dennis Hill in the film plays Moon Luten. He gets

756
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.039
his start in nineteen eighty two's Mongrel. He's also in

757
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.199
the Innocent in eighty five, Confesses of a serial killer

758
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.679
in eighty five, Red Headed Stranger in eighty six, Murder

759
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:23.960
Wrap in eighty eight, Ned Blessing The True Story of

760
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.280
My Life in ninety two, The Underneath in ninety five,

761
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:28.880
The Secret She Carried in ninety six, Friday Night Lights

762
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.320
in two thousand and four, The Sarah Silverman Program, Nuggets

763
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:33.920
in two thousand and seven, and last Into the Blue

764
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.159
two The Reef in two thousand and nine. He unfortunately

765
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.320
passed in July second of twenty fourteen at age sixty

766
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:40.440
four from cancer as well.

767
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:42.400
Wow. Yeah, young guy.

768
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.280
Berkeley Garrett who plays chrifful Games in the film. He

769
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:47.719
gets his start in nineteen to eighty three's Tender Mercies.

770
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.000
He also appears in Cloak and Dagger in eighty four,

771
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.440
Confesses of a Serial Killer in eighty five, Red Headed

772
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.559
Stranger in eighty six, and he unfortunately passed May eighth

773
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:57.239
of ninety seven at age seventy one.

774
00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:58.039
Wow.

775
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.840
So what was your first time watching Confessions of a

776
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:02.400
Serial Killer?

777
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.440
Well, as I said, renting the tape from Hollywood Video

778
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:12.559
and sitting alone in my dark teenage bedroom and being mortified. Yeah,

779
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:17.159
and yeah it was. It left quite an impression. That's

780
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.039
about That's that's my story.

781
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.119
I had found out about the film from an ad

782
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:24.840
preview on a VHS or one of my many trailer

783
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:26.360
sites I looked at back in the day, like Video

784
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.440
Detective and whatnot, and luckily tracked down a VHS copy

785
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:31.840
out a flea market. It was at Caesar's Creek Flee

786
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:33.440
Market actually, and there was a dude that had a

787
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:35.800
booth there that had a bunch of VHS tapes that

788
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:37.920
you normally wouldn't find anywhere else, and I knew on

789
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:39.760
my last visit that he'd had this, and so when

790
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.400
I found out what it was, I was like, I

791
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:43.639
have to see this, so naturally grabbed it when I

792
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.599
was there the next time. The film genuinely disturbed me

793
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:49.719
by its dirty feel, the display of violence and Burns'

794
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:52.760
performance just made me uneasy, but I could not look away.

795
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:54.840
Yeah, that's a very fair way to put it.

796
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.920
So then a few years ago we screened the director's

797
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:59.239
cut and I was just reminded of how much better

798
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:00.920
I find this film beter than Henry. But I will

799
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.039
go into that once we get towards the end. But genuinely,

800
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:04.920
this was a film that just knocked me flat on

801
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:06.159
my ass the first time I watched it.

802
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:08.079
Yeah, very fair assessment, right there.

803
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.119
So our movie breakdown as we get started into this,

804
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.239
it is June fourth, nineteen seventy four, as we see

805
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:16.159
that this is the reporting of one of the most

806
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.679
brutal and violent acts that had perpetuated the country at

807
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.599
this point, and we see Daniulray Hawkins driving along the

808
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:24.239
interstate late at night, listening to the radio. He comes

809
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.000
across a woman who's broken down on the side of

810
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:27.519
the road, and he offers to help the woman with

811
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:29.800
her car. She tries to start it, and Hawkins keeps

812
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.400
an eye on her before telling her it sounds like

813
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:33.960
the carburetor trouble and he cannot do anything about it,

814
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:35.559
but he is happy to drive her to one of

815
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:36.320
the nearest guest.

816
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.840
Of course he is. He's very happy too.

817
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:41.199
She seems nervous at first, but he reminds her it's

818
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:43.280
late and she may not get another one passing by

819
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.280
anytime soon, so eventually she agrees. He walks her to

820
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:48.599
his car. They drive off, leaving her car on the

821
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.159
side of the road with the flashers going off. Once moving,

822
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.440
Hawkins starts clearing trash out of his car, so he's

823
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.119
just moving stuff off the floor and out of the

824
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.679
seat and everything, causing her to comment it appears that

825
00:38:57.719 --> 00:38:58.599
he's been on the road for.

826
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.559
A while, and he replies, ma'am, I have been, yeah,

827
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.639
for a long while. And his look he's just kind

828
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.159
of a he's got curly hair, kind of a little disheveled, unshaven,

829
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:11.119
with a mustache, and just a pair of thick horn

830
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:15.039
rimmed glasses. Yeah, kind of just just some guy. Yeah,

831
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.760
every day actually kind of looks like don't you I

832
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:22.440
mean not wait, you've even got curly hair?

833
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:26.000
You can't tell? Pulls my hat down further.

834
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.559
Lord, do you even?

835
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:40.760
Movie? Will be right back, welcome back to do You Even?

836
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:41.239
Movie?

837
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:47.639
If I take my hat off right now on the show,

838
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:48.840
I don't know what my hair is gonna look like.

839
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:50.639
But there's a lot of hair up there right now.

840
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:51.719
We're not ready.

841
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.880
So silence permiates between them for a bit before she

842
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.880
adds that she has also just left Chicago yesterday morning

843
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:00.519
and has been driving since. She's moving to see Antonio

844
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.800
to start a new job Wednesday, and that's when a

845
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.000
gas station comes into view, which Hawkins drives right past.

846
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.199
Yeah. Yeah, it's a great scene too. It's very very,

847
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:09.880
very tense.

848
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:12.119
Yeah. So the woman ask him to pull over so

849
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:13.639
she can get out here and walk, but he just

850
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:16.119
keeps on driving, putting up his window because at first

851
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.239
he was smoking a cigarette when they started driving. Hawkins

852
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:20.519
looks over to her with really no expression. He just

853
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:22.400
has a stare basically, Yeah.

854
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.159
He just kind of acknowledges she's there, Yeah, and then

855
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:26.159
looks back at the road.

856
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:28.320
So the woman begins to cry, stating her boyfriend and

857
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.000
her are planning to be married in three months, and

858
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.239
she begs him, even offering money to be let out,

859
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:34.760
promising she won't say a word to anyone. Hawkins keeps

860
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.800
driving down the dark road and pulls off to the side,

861
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.960
stating he's sorry he took her out so far, but

862
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:40.639
he'll take her back to that place now, and she

863
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:42.280
tells him, no, no, no, just let her out here,

864
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:42.840
she's fine.

865
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:47.320
Well, the way he explains away what he's doing, yeah,

866
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.880
is he acts like like all because she's scared as shit. Yeah,

867
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:52.960
he acts like he was. He's basically just like, oh,

868
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.159
I just thought maybe we could, you know, we'd fool

869
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.480
around or something, and you know, that's what I was hoping.

870
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.719
But no, you're right, like, and she's it's just like, no, no,

871
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:03.280
I'll just get out anywhere. Yeah, anywhere's fine.

872
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:05.559
So he gets out and the woman goes to the door,

873
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:07.679
finding it locked from the inside on his side. Eventually,

874
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.800
Hawkins comes around to her side and as she's crawling

875
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.519
out of the car, he's taking a knife out of

876
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:14.679
the back of his pocket, opening it and then he

877
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.960
slashed her throat and proceeds to stab her, and that's

878
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.159
when we get a smash cut to the black text

879
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.280
or the black background white text Confessions of a serial Killer.

880
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:26.079
Yeah, hell of a start, and yeah, and it tells

881
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:27.719
you exactly what you're in for. Yeah.

882
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.559
And just like with Henry, a very unsettling score. I'm

883
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.559
going to give the composer credit towards him in the

884
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:34.440
con trivia. But this is a really good score that

885
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:35.840
I really hope I can track down here soon.

886
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:37.239
Yeah, it's a solid score.

887
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.800
So sometime later, we find Hawkins has now been arrested.

888
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:42.440
He is being questioned by an officer about the woman's murder.

889
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:44.960
Hawkins remains silent the entire time while the two cops

890
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:48.079
try to intimidate him. Meanwhile, Sheriff Will Gains watches on

891
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.519
the other side of a two way mirror, commenting they're

892
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:52.079
never going to get anything out of him like that.

893
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.079
So Sheriff Gains goes into the room, telling the boys

894
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:56.519
he's going to take it from here, and he also

895
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:58.559
sends one of the cops out for cheeseburger and fries,

896
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:01.519
even asking Hawkins if you likes chocolate shakes, which he does.

897
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.079
Of course he does, so he agrees to, and Gaines

898
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.239
introduces himself, giving Hawkins a cigarette and asking about the

899
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.079
other people he's murdered. Hawkins tells him he prefers the

900
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.760
name Daniel and he'll talk to Gaines, but no other cops.

901
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.119
So Gaines then ask Hawkins about the other murders, and

902
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.559
Hawkins states he's murdered at least fifty people that he

903
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.079
can think of. Then Gaines states that's a lot of

904
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.400
people and ask how does he remember the first? Does

905
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.280
he remember the first murder he ever did? Hawkins states

906
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:27.159
that he does, and he doesn't know her name, but

907
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:29.639
it was twenty years ago when he was fifteen.

908
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.559
So when I was fifteen, we flashed.

909
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.119
Back, as Hawkins exclaims he was going out to a

910
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:36.280
local brothel we'll get some action, but he saw one

911
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.159
woman starting to leave, so he got out of the

912
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:41.280
car and followed her. Eventually, the woman turns around as

913
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.920
asking Hawkins what does he want, but he remained silent.

914
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:45.800
She called him a creep and begin to walk away.

915
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:47.599
He goes to grab at her and she tells him

916
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.119
to stay away. Hawkins then picks up a block of

917
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.280
wood and charges at her with it, describing it as

918
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:56.280
something begin to push inside of him. We watch Hawkins

919
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.079
beat the woman to death in the rail yard as

920
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.920
the blood begins to splatter and puddle. Hawkins then comments

921
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.000
that when she stopped moving, he knew she was ready,

922
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:04.880
but then he was so scared that he got back

923
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:05.920
into his car and left.

924
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:11.320
And the details are grizzly in the film, and every

925
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:15.639
every death there are very few that are like the

926
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:18.719
the scene later on, the only scene of murder in

927
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.519
this movie that pulls punches is literally the murder of

928
00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.679
two young children. Yeah, that's the only one. You don't

929
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:25.960
get like up close grizzly detailed personally.

930
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.159
Yeah, well, you don't get the the one hitchhiker because

931
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:30.360
you just see her get in and then we see

932
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:30.800
your body.

933
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:32.960
Oh yeah, well that was but that was for artistic

934
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:37.079
but seeing her body was grizzly. Yeah, absolutely so. But

935
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:42.599
but nearly every kill is depicted intensely.

936
00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:43.960
Because I feel like to be honest and correct me

937
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.480
if I'm wrong, But there's like, really only four on

938
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:52.039
screen murders in Henry, Uh, because you've got the you've

939
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.119
got the one that Otis breaks the neck of in

940
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:56.639
the car, You've got the family. Of course that is

941
00:43:56.639 --> 00:44:02.360
filmed on camera. Yeah, TV repair guy, and then basically spoilers, otis,

942
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:05.519
you might be right. I think that's it because I

943
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.760
think mostly we're just seeing a lot of panning over

944
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:08.039
to the.

945
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:11.639
Court aftermath and stuff, which was incredible, incredible way to

946
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:11.840
do it.

947
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:14.239
No, absolutely, So we cut back to the interrogation as

948
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:16.800
Hawkins exclaims it was exciting and he pulled over down

949
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.000
the way to pleasure himself. He reveals it would have

950
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.920
been July nineteen sixty in Scrannon, Pennsylvania. Gaines asked him

951
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.840
if he ever told anyone else about this, and Hawkins

952
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.079
states he did not. He just went home to his mother,

953
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.159
and Gaines asked him to go into his home life.

954
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.320
As we now cut back even further to see Hawkins's

955
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:33.639
a young child with his sister and he starts to think.

956
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:35.000
We cut to the home where we see a man

957
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.679
in the wheelchair. We hear Hawkins exclaimed that was his father,

958
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:39.920
who was injured in the war and basically was left

959
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.559
in the wheelchair. His mother really didn't tend to him much.

960
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:44.559
We see his mother come home with two men as

961
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.679
Hawkins and his sister watched the other side of the room.

962
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.800
We watch his mother start to flirt and play with

963
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:51.480
the men. As one begins to grow her Hawkins exclaims

964
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:53.280
that she would have sex right in front of the children,

965
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:55.559
and this would be a nightly occurrence with different men.

966
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:57.639
Right then we hear a gunshot go off. His mother

967
00:44:57.719 --> 00:44:59.280
goes to check, and we see that his father has

968
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:00.159
taken his own life.

969
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.159
And his father, who was some kind of a war

970
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:05.000
veteran and yet who is a confined to a wheelchair,

971
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.360
forced to just kind of witness everything all of this, Yeah,

972
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.440
not only witness his wife's infidelity, but the mistreatment of

973
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.800
his children at the same which is just hell horrifying.

974
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:18.000
And that was in the tape I watched. That's why.

975
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.360
Oh yeah, that's why I'm like, I think the VHS

976
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.760
had most of it in there. Yeah, because I remember

977
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:25.039
that it stuck out.

978
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:27.000
So his mother goes and retrieves the gun as we

979
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:29.480
see Hawkins witness all this with the sister. Hawkins then

980
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.159
tells Gaines he doesn't want to talk about it, but

981
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:32.960
he was thinking about a woman he picked up six

982
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:35.000
years ago on a road he would normally cruise for

983
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.480
college girls. The woman goes over to his car and

984
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:39.280
Hawkins tells her that he's got to get the door,

985
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:41.159
and the woman looks in to see a dead body

986
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.880
under a blanket. She tells him that she'll get another ride,

987
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.360
and he realizes what she saws, and she takes off

988
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:48.559
running and he goes right after her into a cornfield.

989
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:51.400
The woman gets a head start and disappears into the corn,

990
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.760
but Hawkins keeps after her, eventually finding the flashlight she dropped,

991
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:56.639
He begins to search the field for her as we

992
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:58.760
see her trying to stay low and crawl through the corn.

993
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.599
As Hawkins keeps shine the light through trying to find her,

994
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:03.960
we see her stop as the light starts to get close,

995
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.079
and then she rolls right in time as the beam

996
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.280
almost catches her. This scene is so intense and done

997
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:12.000
so well, Yes, very much so. Hawkins, seeing nothing, makes

998
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:14.039
his way through the corn. The woman goes back to

999
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.159
crawling away, trying to get away from as quickly she can. Eventually,

1000
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:18.960
Hawkins catches her in the beam of the flashlight and

1001
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.360
takes off running after her. The woman then comes to

1002
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.960
a road finds a truck pulling up with another woman driving.

1003
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:25.960
She goes to the truck, telling her that a man's

1004
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:27.280
going after her, and that's when she's like, you know,

1005
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.000
get in the car, Get in the car. So she

1006
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:31.480
goes on the other side. Hawkins then beats the glass

1007
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.400
of the driver's side, breaking the window with the flashlight,

1008
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:36.360
but the truck then speeds off, and we cut back

1009
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.679
to the interrogation as Hawkins finishes saying that that was

1010
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.800
the only time he lost a hitchhiker. Otherwise when they

1011
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:42.519
got into the car, they were mine.

1012
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.280
Yeah. And the way he says it, it's so matter

1013
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.880
of fact, with just a glimmer of joy. Yeah, it

1014
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:50.159
really chills you to the bone.

1015
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.599
He never, legitimately in this movie like has like a

1016
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.400
crazy look on his face. I would say, no, he

1017
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.360
gets angry, gets angry, Yeah, but he's always kind of

1018
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:00.440
collected and just there.

1019
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:01.840
Yeah. Yeah.

1020
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:03.599
So the copp rives of the food and gains tells

1021
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.039
him to bring it in as he goes back into

1022
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:06.639
the room with a two way mirror. He requests a

1023
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.280
psychologist to come in and hear this, and sometime later

1024
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.800
gains his back with Hawkins asking how he didn't get caught,

1025
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:13.920
and he explains that he stuck to the highway nearly

1026
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:15.960
put one hundred and sixty miles on one car. One year,

1027
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.360
he goes into another story in Louisiana, we see a

1028
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:21.519
woman get into an altercation with her boyfriend outside of

1029
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.119
a club. He ends up leaving her while Hawkins sees

1030
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.840
the whole thing. He quickly pulls up, offering her a ride,

1031
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.920
and she gets in stating, you bet your goddamn ass

1032
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.400
I do. So we see that. She asks where they're going,

1033
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.079
and he tells her that he doesn't know, offering her

1034
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.480
a beer. She states that she's good because she has

1035
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.320
what she needs right here, pulling out a joint and

1036
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:40.320
lighting it. She even offers the joint to him, and

1037
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:42.480
he states he doesn't approve of that, plucking the joint

1038
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:44.039
from her hand and throwing it out the window. And

1039
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:46.480
that's when she basically says, well, that does say it.

1040
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:47.679
That's your fucking problem.

1041
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:49.760
Yeah, And I love how he's mad that she's like

1042
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.480
swearing and doing drugs and while he's gonna like rap

1043
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:53.639
and kill her. Yeah. Yeah.

1044
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:56.000
He adds he didn't improve her language in the attitude,

1045
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:58.719
and that's when she finds a BDSM magazine on the floor,

1046
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.719
commenting on it, you know, saying nice and also noticing

1047
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:03.239
that there's a pistol on the floor next to her

1048
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.760
as well. Eventually, the woman asks to be dropped off

1049
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.119
so she can call her boyfriend, but Hawkins keeps driving

1050
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:11.119
looking forward with no response. She tells him to pull

1051
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:13.280
over or she'll get sick, and he tells her go ahead,

1052
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.000
and that's when she wastes no time at all, grabbing

1053
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.039
the pistol, telling him to stop the car, which he does.

1054
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:18.480
Yeah, well, I mean, wouldn't you.

1055
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.360
So he stops the car and tells her he needs

1056
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:22.880
to open the door from her side. She tells him

1057
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.039
to stay put open the door and let her get

1058
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:26.800
out on that side believe the keys in the ignition.

1059
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.239
But suddenly Moon pops up from the back seat, hawkins

1060
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.000
partner in crime, who quickly breaks her neck. Hawkins then

1061
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.119
adds that they both assaulted her before dumping her into

1062
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.519
a field and driving off. So now we have another

1063
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.719
character as we introduce Moon, which is hawkins partner in

1064
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:40.079
the movie.

1065
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:43.360
Yes, and he's representing he's based on the real life

1066
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.719
Otis Tool or Oddis Tool. Yeah, I think is. Actually

1067
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:47.320
he said his name Ottis.

1068
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.960
So that is when Gaines asks Moon's name and Hawkins

1069
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:53.320
confirms Luton Moon Luten and Gaines ask about Moon, and

1070
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:55.840
Hawkins tells him he's been apprehended in Baton Rouge at

1071
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:57.599
least that's what he heard last, and gain sends a

1072
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.239
cop to check on this. Hawkins confesses that the Moon

1073
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.800
and he had a sexual relation, and the cop comes

1074
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.559
in confirming Baton Rouge has one Moonluten and they want

1075
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.400
to speak to them about what they've got.

1076
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.679
So and this is where they're starting to realize, like,

1077
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:11.000
holy crap, we got a live one.

1078
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:13.800
Yeah, So Gain's requests more information from Hawkins and he

1079
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.960
goes into another story where he and Moon were movers

1080
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:17.920
for a woman in Rockdale. We see the two of

1081
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:19.840
them in the back of a moving truck working hard,

1082
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.039
taking a break. As the Moon goes to wipe sweat

1083
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.239
from hawkins brow. They see a woman in the yard

1084
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:27.159
next door chopping away, and that's when Moon notices her too,

1085
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:29.639
commenting he was already thinking about paying her a visit

1086
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:30.559
later on that night.

1087
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.519
Yeah. The way these guys just kind of I mean,

1088
00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:38.360
they're drifters, literally, they're drifters. They just drift around finding victims. Yeah,

1089
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:39.440
that's all they do.

1090
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.760
And that's all we see. So later that night, the

1091
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:43.719
young woman is in her home listening to a record

1092
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.199
when Hawkins knocks on the door, introducing himself as the

1093
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:48.519
mover for the neighbor, who mentioned that she was having

1094
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:50.400
issues with their ac and since it's so hot, they

1095
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:52.039
were happy to come over and take a look and

1096
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.119
would only charge her twenty dollars to get it running.

1097
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:56.920
She's unsure because it's late and she doesn't really know them,

1098
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:59.400
so Hawkins offers her ten and she agrees, and Moon

1099
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:02.360
enters behind Hawkins. Moon acts like he's gonna go fix

1100
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:04.360
the unit in the bedroom while Hawkins sits down on

1101
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.840
the couch flipping through a magazine. The woman offers him

1102
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.519
a drink, but Hawkins says he's fine. The woman introduces

1103
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:12.199
herself as Karen Grimes, trying to make small talk with Hawkins,

1104
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.519
thanking him, but he just keeps looking and flipping through

1105
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.519
the magazine and one word answers only yeah.

1106
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:19.760
He's completely detached at this point yeah, until he eventually

1107
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.360
looks over at her and tells her how pretty she looked.

1108
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.360
Earlier, commenting that she looked good today outside trimming the bushes.

1109
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:27.880
The woman is uneasy but thanks him, then gets up

1110
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:29.800
to see what Moon is up to. She sees that

1111
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:31.840
her front door is still wide open, but she makes

1112
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:33.760
her way to the back of the room, finding Moon

1113
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:36.639
sitting at her vanity, putting on her makeup and making

1114
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:37.800
himself look very pretty.

1115
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:39.639
Yeah, baby pretty now, mama.

1116
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:42.920
So that is when outside we see the window shades

1117
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:44.519
are drawn, the lights go out, and we hear the

1118
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:46.719
woman's screen. We see the stereo get turned up. Some

1119
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:48.800
knives are grabbed in the kitchen. Karen is tied to

1120
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.000
the bed by Moon as she struggles, the two climb

1121
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.239
on to the bed, and Moon wastes no time cutting

1122
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:55.159
her throat while Hawkins begins to assault her.

1123
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.519
Yeah, and this is probably one of.

1124
00:50:57.440 --> 00:50:59.559
The most grim scenes of the movie.

1125
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.440
Yeah saying something. But yeah, the way they depict her

1126
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:07.079
her violent assault and murder. Yeah, they pull absolutely no punches.

1127
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:10.000
No punches. And I mean that's one thing with this movie, Henry,

1128
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.559
I feel like ups the gore a little bit. I mean,

1129
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:14.079
I feel it does have some realism too, but I

1130
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:15.960
feel like it does up the blood a little bit,

1131
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.119
where I feel like Confessions is pretty fucking realistic.

1132
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:22.440
Yeah, No, it's it's very matter of fact. Yeah, And

1133
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.320
that's one of the things I like about this movie

1134
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:29.159
is that it's it's very straightforward, well done in its way.

1135
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:32.159
It didn't set the world on fire with its depictions.

1136
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:36.239
It is a B movie. Yeah, but boy, they don't

1137
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:38.079
shy in this movie. They don't shy away from the

1138
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:41.480
fact that he and Moon were sleeping together. Yeah, which

1139
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.320
they shied away with from completely. And Henry they don't

1140
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:47.199
have any reference to him and Otis or Otis. Yeah,

1141
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.360
be a sleeping together. They also in a little bit

1142
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:54.599
when we meet Moon's sister, Yeah, they say she's sixteen.

1143
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:55.039
Yeah.

1144
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:59.960
And in Henry they made her eighteen or nineteen years old.

1145
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:01.920
They made her a full blown adult, and which is

1146
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:04.760
funny because you split the difference. You're splitting the difference

1147
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:06.280
because in reality she was like twelve.

1148
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:07.280
Yes, she was very young.

1149
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.719
Yeah, which is the gross Yeah. Yeah, you think.

1150
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:23.760
Do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back

1151
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:25.039
to Do You Even?

1152
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:27.679
Movie.

1153
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.480
So we come back to the interrogation as Gaines asks

1154
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:35.159
Hawkins where he dumped the body, Hawkins can't recall, and

1155
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.559
Gaines ask if he remembers the address or the location,

1156
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.480
and Hawkins states he can't. Gaines then calls into question

1157
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:42.480
his attention to detail, dropping all of a sudden, and

1158
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:44.679
Hawkins exclaims most of the time they were pretty messed

1159
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:46.559
up and so it's hard for him to recall details.

1160
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.760
So that's what his deputy brings in a file. We

1161
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.800
see Gaines with a picture of Karen Grimes as he

1162
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.960
pulls several additional photos out to make three total, asking

1163
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.840
Hawkins to identify Karen, so he takes a few seconds

1164
00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.880
before stating he doesn't recognize her. Gaines states he's having

1165
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.639
issues believing him. All the details so far that he's

1166
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:06.079
recalled have been in the newspaper. Hawkins states he's not lying,

1167
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.440
and Gaines ask him what else was done in Karen

1168
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.000
Grind's home. There was something specific that was not reported,

1169
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:13.599
and that's when Hawkins ask if he's talking about Moon

1170
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.039
defecating on the floor, and Gaines asked, was that Moon

1171
00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:18.920
that did that? Hawkins claims that he would do that

1172
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:21.239
sometimes and Gains then request the details on where they

1173
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:24.320
dump the body. Hawkins starts, but a deputy request him

1174
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:27.440
to draw map, so we hear Hawkins describe the path south.

1175
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:29.559
As we see Gains and his deputies now driving out

1176
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:31.880
to the drop spot. He confirms they dropped her off

1177
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:33.519
in some bushes by a creek, and we see the

1178
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:36.559
deputies going to search. We now see Hawkins with a

1179
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.360
psychologist asking him if he thinks that he could ever change.

1180
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:42.119
Hawkins replies he doesn't know. Killing is like breathing to him.

1181
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:42.400
Now.

1182
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:45.519
The psychologist thanks Hawkins and leaves, going into the two

1183
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:48.440
way mirror room, joining Gaines. Gaines informs him they now

1184
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:51.039
have cleared six murder cases and more to follow, because

1185
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:52.840
even Canada is wanting to talk to them now.

1186
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:55.480
Yeah, of course, and this was back when you could

1187
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.199
cross the border without a passport. Yeah, all you had

1188
00:53:58.199 --> 00:53:59.840
to have was a driver's license and you could drive

1189
00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:01.199
up to Canada and right back in.

1190
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:04.159
So the psychologist states he's a textbook case psychotic, but

1191
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.239
also a constant liar who mixes in the truth sometimes.

1192
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.960
Gaines ask who he can trust, if they can trust him,

1193
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:12.079
adding he's been in jail twice before and they've let

1194
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:13.599
him go both times and he'll be damn but that's

1195
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:16.159
going to happen this time. So Gaines returns to Hawkins,

1196
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:18.000
asking him to take a trip tomorrow to help jog

1197
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:20.320
the memory. We see them drive on the same place

1198
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.440
and Hawkins states that this isn't the place that they did.

1199
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.360
It's actually further down the road. They drive further down

1200
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.440
till Hawkins exclaims it's right there. They park as Gaines

1201
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:30.679
and Hawkins, along with the other deputies, get out, walking

1202
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:33.199
over to a bush where they find human remains in

1203
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:36.000
the bushes. Yes, which is basically a full one skeleton.

1204
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:36.679
I noticed this time.

1205
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:38.599
Yeah, yeah, it's been a while. Yeah.

1206
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.199
So we see the crew now at the drive through

1207
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:43.320
enjoying more food. He asks if they're going out again

1208
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.400
tomorrow and Gaines tells them well, that depends on him,

1209
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:47.119
and Hawkins adds that he wants to help so that

1210
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:49.719
they can shut these cases, give the victims family closure,

1211
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:52.719
even warning other women not to hitchhike. At this point,

1212
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:54.519
a server girl comes up to the window to get

1213
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:56.599
Hawk in shape, and that's when he plays with her

1214
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.280
for a second, even holding it back, and then's when

1215
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:00.800
he states, you're lucky these guys are here, otherwise you'd

1216
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:01.360
be mine.

1217
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:05.480
Well, it's a great scene because when when when he

1218
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:08.559
gets the shake, he says that right as she realizes

1219
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:12.000
he's handcuffed. Yeah, So like it's it's a great visual

1220
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.239
moment because she realizes this is a criminal. And then

1221
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:16.880
he says that to her, and the way he says it,

1222
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.519
he doesn't say it like he's delicious. Well though, he

1223
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.639
says it like he's saying he'd take her out for

1224
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.639
a nice dinner. Yeah, you know, He's like, you'd be

1225
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:28.440
all mine. It is really mortifying. So that is the

1226
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:29.480
term for this film.

1227
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:31.599
Hawkins looks over and comments, there used to be a

1228
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.400
seven to eleven in that location as we cut to

1229
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:35.519
another story, as we see him and Moon pull up

1230
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:37.360
to a gas station, which is the place that they

1231
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.480
were just looking at. Moon tells him he wants to

1232
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:41.920
get more magazines and may need him to read him

1233
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:43.639
some articles, and that's when Hawkins tells him to get

1234
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.639
the magazines with pictures, but Moon tells them they don't

1235
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:48.840
sell those here. Oh, so they should make their own magazine.

1236
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:50.679
Yeah, he's like, they should make we should make her

1237
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.519
own magazine with all kinds of pictures.

1238
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:54.039
So we see the two make their way into the

1239
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:56.320
store as they fill a cart with various food drinks.

1240
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:58.599
We see Hawkins steal something while he gives Moon an

1241
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.039
eye and Moon starts at the starts to check them out.

1242
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:02.800
Hawkins asks Moon if he has any money as the

1243
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.199
man tells them their totals fifty two dollars. He says

1244
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.079
he left his wallet in the car, and Moon states,

1245
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:08.840
I don't worry about it. As Hawkins goes to walk

1246
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:12.079
to the car, Moon draws the gun, blasting the store owner,

1247
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:14.559
and that's when Hawkins quickly takes the gun from him.

1248
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:16.840
Going into a video section towards the back of the store,

1249
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.719
we hear a woman exclaim no do we see two

1250
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:21.599
shots happen, and that's when he goes back to the clerk,

1251
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:23.840
shooting him again, before telling Moon to get a move on.

1252
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:26.199
Moon comments, holding a camera that they can use this

1253
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:27.719
for the pictures for their magazines.

1254
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.280
Yeah, they're just you know there. He's a little annoyed

1255
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:33.679
that Moon just kills the guy. Yeah, but he's mostly

1256
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.400
just like, let's just get going. It's like it's like

1257
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.199
me being annoyed with you because like you got distracted

1258
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:42.480
on your phone when we're on a hurry. Yeah, you know,

1259
00:56:42.599 --> 00:56:45.199
like I'm just like, oh, Dave, come on, you killed

1260
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:45.960
those people.

1261
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:48.400
We cut to a bus depot as a locker is

1262
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.880
opened and we see several shoe boxes retrieved out of it.

1263
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.880
Gaines brings the shoeboxes to Daniel opening them to reveal

1264
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.000
piles of polaroids of him, Moon, and another woman who

1265
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.840
we find out is Molly, murdering people and also various corpses. Gaines,

1266
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:03.039
looking through them, tells Hawkins it's important for him to

1267
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:05.239
tell him everything from this point on, and Hawkins says,

1268
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.519
of course, he just forgot about the boxes of pictures.

1269
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:10.400
Gaines asks us why he left them at the bus station,

1270
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:12.519
and Hawkins confirms they just did that was the best

1271
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:14.880
place to put them, going into a story about how

1272
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:17.079
Moon's sister Molly joined them at one point and as

1273
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:19.440
Rika said she's sixteen, we cut to the three of

1274
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.639
them outside and enjoying a meal of fried chicken and beer.

1275
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:23.800
Molly asked if she can stay with them for a bit,

1276
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:26.639
and Hawkins and Moon agree. As Molly offers to show

1277
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:28.719
them how to make some real money at what they're doing,

1278
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:30.840
telling them that they should go to the bus station.

1279
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:34.679
Hawkins asked why, and she says they'll see, adding Molly

1280
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:36.880
showed them how they could use the bus station lockers

1281
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:38.960
to store things for just a quarter for as long

1282
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:39.719
as they wanted to.

1283
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:41.960
I mean, that is a life hack.

1284
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:44.840
So we see Molly go into the bus station as

1285
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:47.360
a cop goes past them, worrying Hawkins and Moon, but

1286
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:50.000
the cop drives past them, keeps going, and Molly returns

1287
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.000
to the car with a woman named Jasmine who apparently

1288
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:54.159
just broke up with their sugar daddy, and Jasmine is

1289
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:55.840
offering to pay for a ride to hang out with

1290
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.079
them for a little bit as we see them drive off.

1291
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.400
Short time later, we see the car pulling down the

1292
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.199
road as it stops, and we see Jasmine's body fall out,

1293
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:05.360
completely bloody and dead as they dump her into a

1294
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:09.039
field before driving off. Yeah. Back at the interrogation, Gaines

1295
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:11.119
asked Hawkins how many kills Molly was a part of,

1296
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:13.519
but Hawkins states he really doesn't know, but a good amount.

1297
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.440
They got along well even they were even married, just

1298
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.280
the two of them, with no official ceremony. Gain asked

1299
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:22.039
how Moon felt about this in Hawkins states he was

1300
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:24.800
fine because he and Molly's relationship did not involve sex.

1301
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:29.360
I mean, that's like the only good thing In Yeah.

1302
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:31.480
An officer enters the room with a cart full of

1303
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.159
photo albums as Gaines explains that they're all missing persons,

1304
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:36.320
not just Texas, but all over the country and in

1305
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.280
what over the last nine years. I think he says

1306
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.159
something like that. Yeah. So Hawkins ask if he wants

1307
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:44.400
him to show him his and Gain says that's exactly

1308
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:46.039
what he wants. He wants them to flip through them

1309
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:48.400
very carefully and tell them any of the ones that

1310
00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:51.000
he has murdered. Hawkins flips through a few, stating no

1311
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.639
to them, but we see a young man. Hawkins confirms

1312
00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:55.880
that that's one that they did. We cut back as

1313
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:57.800
we see the young man walking down the road. As

1314
00:58:57.840 --> 00:58:59.960
we see the car pick them up, Hawkins exclaims, Moon

1315
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:01.440
ask if they wanted to pick him up and have

1316
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.199
sex with him before killing him, and Hawkins agreed. They

1317
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:06.199
pick him up, and Hawkins exclaims that Mood tried to

1318
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:08.360
put the Moon moves on him but ended up breaking

1319
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:10.519
his neck. When the man refused, they chopped him up

1320
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:12.480
and would dump pieces of him down the road every

1321
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:13.519
fifty miles or so.

1322
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:14.440
Jesus.

1323
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.119
They got fifty dollars off him, though, and ate a

1324
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.199
nice breakfast the next morning, which Moon thanked Steve wherever

1325
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:20.840
he was.

1326
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.119
He thought, and he referenced that as like a funny

1327
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:25.719
anecdote about the meal. He's like, yeah. At one point

1328
00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:29.559
he said, thank you, Steve, wherever you are, and he

1329
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:30.760
laughs yeah.

1330
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:33.119
So he flips another photo and claims another victim as

1331
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:34.800
a young woman he met at a bar and killed

1332
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.400
her quick. He flips an album again and Hawkins exclaims

1333
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:39.599
he already told Gaines about this one. Gain says he

1334
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:42.360
needs a second and lights a cigarette, asking Hawkins to

1335
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:44.440
confirm if this is the school teacher he abducted it

1336
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.320
in a shopping mall, and he confirms that is. He

1337
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.599
picks up another album in states he knows this one

1338
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:51.719
it's one of his, and we cut back to see

1339
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:54.280
a shirtless Hawkins and Molly asleep in the grass. He

1340
00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:56.639
awakens to watch a camper pull away from a parking lot,

1341
00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:58.880
returns to Molly, telling her that they overslept and all

1342
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:00.800
the cars are gone now, so they're gonna have to

1343
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:02.760
get a move on and act like hitchhikers since Moon

1344
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:05.360
took the car, so they're gonna have to kill someone

1345
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:07.679
and take their car. It's gonna be real simple. We

1346
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.199
see Hawkins and Molly pack up their things and move out.

1347
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.639
Molly asks if she should get the ride and have

1348
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.280
him hide out while they wait, and Hawkins confirms, handing

1349
01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:17.800
her a pistol, telling her to use it as soon

1350
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.239
as no one is around. Suddenly, a white car with

1351
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:22.559
a flat tire pulls up and Hawkins exclaims this will

1352
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:24.639
be easy, telling her to wait over by a tree

1353
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:26.360
off to the side.

1354
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:38.119
Do you even movie will be right back. Welcome back

1355
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:42.000
to do you Even Movie?

1356
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:46.639
An older gentleman gets out of the car and begins

1357
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.280
to work changing a tire. Hawkins offers to help the

1358
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:51.440
older man, and that's what he exclaims. If he's offering,

1359
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:53.239
he'll take it. Laying down a Bible on the side

1360
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.159
of the trunk. He asked the man if he's a preacher,

1361
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:58.079
and the man exclaims he's not. He's a doctor, doctor Cervix,

1362
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.639
and that is when Hawkins ask if he wants help

1363
01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:03.400
and begins to change in the tire and ask if

1364
01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:05.800
you can get a ride when they're done. Cervix agrees,

1365
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:07.840
and Hawkins tells him he's got another he's got something

1366
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.400
dripping under the car. Molly then comes up behind them

1367
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:12.440
as a man goes over look. Molly draws the gun,

1368
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:14.559
but suddenly a cop comes into view across the street

1369
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:16.440
and Hawkins stops her. I mean the gun's right on

1370
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:17.119
the back of his head.

1371
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:19.559
Yeah, she is about to blow his brains out, like

1372
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:22.360
and and and the way she's just kind of saying

1373
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.320
and she's like almost almost.

1374
01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:28.960
It's like I would compare her to Sherry Moon in

1375
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:30.880
House Does and Corpses. But she's not that crazy.

1376
01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:35.440
He's not baby level, No, she's she's just matter of fact. Now.

1377
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.920
Moon is much more of like a mad dog killer type.

1378
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:42.119
He's he's really relishing in it. Yeah, but but o

1379
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:45.159
our lead, he's just very stodgy, and she's picked up

1380
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.000
on that kind of matter of fact.

1381
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:50.039
Moon killing reminds me of the killer in Hard to Die.

1382
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.880
Oh oh, Pete spell Yeah, yeah, the actor Peter spellos Yeah.

1383
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:58.400
Yeah. So Molly draws the gun, but the sparks three,

1384
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:00.360
so he stops her from pulling the trigger. That's Cervix

1385
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:02.679
states he doesn't see anything, and Hawkins tells him nothing

1386
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:04.719
to worry about, but Cervic says. He goes on to

1387
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:06.760
explain that he's got a handyman shop. He needs someone

1388
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:09.239
who's good with tools, and an apartment comes with a

1389
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:11.840
deal if he's interested. The cop siren starts to ring

1390
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:14.280
as he drives off, and Cervix helps Hawkins get the

1391
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.880
tire back into the trunk. Sometime later, we see the

1392
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:19.880
three arrive at Service Residents and he introduces them to

1393
01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:22.519
the secretary, who's Doris, who has to speak with him,

1394
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:24.599
asking him what he's doing since he doesn't know them.

1395
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:27.079
He shuts the door and Hawkins and Molly excuse themselves

1396
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:29.599
as they begin to wander the property, coming across a

1397
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:32.639
young woman who is immediately spooked by their presence. Monica,

1398
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:35.199
who is the doctor's daughter, is introduced to them and

1399
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.159
he tells them to excuse her. She's just that way sometimes.

1400
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.039
Monica gets up excusing herself, and that's when he tells

1401
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:42.719
her to get used to them being around, as that's

1402
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:43.920
going to be the new handyman.

1403
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:48.039
Yep, because he's a good Christian man who gives opportunities

1404
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:49.880
to people who are drifting.

1405
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:51.199
Yeah, and he does.

1406
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:51.960
Yeah.

1407
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:53.960
Yeah, this could not you know, blow up in his

1408
01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:54.480
face at all.

1409
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:56.880
No, no, no, So that's.

1410
01:02:56.719 --> 01:02:58.800
When Monica goes to leave, she knocks over a radio

1411
01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:01.199
and the radio break, or so we think. That's when

1412
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:03.039
Hawkins picks it up. He fixes it, and he even

1413
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:04.719
kind of gives her a look as she walks off,

1414
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:07.840
and she's just uneasy completely. Well, yeah, no, I mean

1415
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:10.559
he's such a charmer, such a charmer. So that is

1416
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:12.480
when Cervix tells him that he to get used to

1417
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:14.639
them being around, and Hawkins says that they can make

1418
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:16.880
it work, asking if it's okay if Moon stays with

1419
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:18.480
them from time to time, and at first he's a

1420
01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:20.199
little uneasy about this, and he's like, no, no, he's

1421
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.119
a hard worker, and you know he's he's a believer

1422
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.880
in God, he's God fearing and he said Christian, Christian,

1423
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:26.960
Yeah he should, and then it should be fine. So

1424
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:28.719
he leaves, telling them he'll be back later to show

1425
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.599
them the clinic. Hawkins watches Monica leave, and later we

1426
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:33.840
find him and Moon in a car having a drink.

1427
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:36.119
Moon comments that Cervix asked him if he was a

1428
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:38.039
God fearing man, and Hawkins tells him not to worry

1429
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:39.559
about him. As long as they keep telling him what

1430
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:41.440
he wants to hear, they're going to be fine. A

1431
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:43.719
young couple with two kids pull up and Moon makes

1432
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.480
a comment in regards to wouldn't it be fun to

1433
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:49.039
have or wouldn't it wouldn't be fun with one of them?

1434
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.480
I can't remember what he says, have fun with her. Yeah,

1435
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:55.039
he says, which one? Yeah, because there's a little child. Yeah,

1436
01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:57.559
that's one of the most creepiest comments in the movie.

1437
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.239
Well, when you and I rewatched it when it came

1438
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.400
out in HD, you I think it was you made

1439
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:05.320
a joke, like we were just kind of riffing. Oh, yeah,

1440
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:07.519
because which one? And then he says which one?

1441
01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:09.719
You're like, uhh, yeah, I felt extremely I was.

1442
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:11.639
Just making an off color joke.

1443
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:13.719
So we see the two drive off and find a

1444
01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:15.840
stretch of road. Moon pulls over, asking if they want

1445
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:17.920
to play a game, and he agrees. We see Mood

1446
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:20.840
and Hawkins switch seats in the car and drive down

1447
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.079
the road, finding two little girls walking down the road

1448
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:25.719
looking at a magazine. The car slowly pulls up beside

1449
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:27.679
them as a shot rings out, dropping one of the

1450
01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:30.400
girls dead. The other screams and goes off, running into

1451
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:32.400
the field, but a second shot rings out and drops

1452
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:34.760
both of them. So, if you're listening at home right now,

1453
01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:37.079
we just watched two young children get shot dead in

1454
01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:37.519
this movie.

1455
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:40.920
Yes, and while it was depicted from far away, it's

1456
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:45.360
still mortiful. Well, and but it's again, matter of fact mortifying.

1457
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:49.440
Yeah, So so that is when excuse me here. Later

1458
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:51.360
that night, Monica sits on the couch with their headphones

1459
01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:53.639
at the house watching TV as Doctor Cervix tells her

1460
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:57.079
good night. Moten Hawkin's return as Moon tells him he's

1461
01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:59.039
planning to leave next check because he's not a fan

1462
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:01.199
of working and he misses the old days. We see

1463
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:03.000
they're in a new car now. As Molly comes out

1464
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:05.480
of the apartment asking where they've been, they exclaim they

1465
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:08.199
got a new car. As Molly ask where, and yeah,

1466
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:09.519
where did they get it from? And that's when the

1467
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:11.760
trunks popped. As a bound and gagged woman cries out

1468
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:14.599
and Hawkins states from her. Moon removes her from the

1469
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:16.400
trunk and takes her into the apartment. As Molly asks

1470
01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:19.159
what they're planning to do, Hawkins removes a chainsaw from

1471
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:19.719
the trunk.

1472
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:23.480
Gee, I wonder what they're thinking though crazy he packs

1473
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:28.159
a chainsaw. Skin your ass, raw, David. This is a

1474
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:30.119
heinous moment. Why would you quote limp biscuit.

1475
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.840
Monica in the house, hearing sounds of the chainsaw running,

1476
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:35.719
goes out to the house, approaching the apartment slowly as

1477
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:37.960
the chainsaw continues running and revving, and this whole time

1478
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.440
we're watching her just a slowly approach the apartment, like

1479
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:42.519
very carefully, and she's got a radio on to you,

1480
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:44.760
but it's drowned out by the chainsaw, so there's nothing

1481
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.920
to worry about, of course. Yeah, until she gets on

1482
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.079
the steps of the apartment. The chainsaw dies off, her

1483
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.320
radio beats for a second, she switches it off, and

1484
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:54.599
then she just slowly starts stepping back, and we look

1485
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:56.920
and see that somebody is looking at her from the

1486
01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:58.119
window inside the apartment.

1487
01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:00.199
Hmmm, oh, I'm sure it's fine.

1488
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.960
So the next morning, Cervix secretary gives Hawkins a work

1489
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.480
order for a woman's refrigerator, asking why can't they fix

1490
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:08.199
it there, and she comments Doris comments, because you can't,

1491
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:11.079
and she tells them to get get help because it's heavy.

1492
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:13.519
As he and Moon go off to leave, Hawkins comments

1493
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:15.960
they're gonna do something about the secretary real soon, stopping

1494
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:19.000
to admire Monica, who's washing the car. The secretary comes out,

1495
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:20.920
reminding them the client is waving, So the two get

1496
01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:23.039
in the car and leave, but as they leave, Doris

1497
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.119
looks her over to the apartment and begins to walk

1498
01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:28.360
towards it. Hawkins realizing they don't have the address. Sometime

1499
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:30.280
down the road turns the car around as we see

1500
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.559
Doris now inside the apartment going through their things, finding

1501
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:36.000
a gun as well as bloody knives and machetes under

1502
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:38.480
the mattress. She finds more disturbing things as Moon and

1503
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:41.920
Hawkins return, which she doesn't notice. Doris finds a bloody

1504
01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:44.000
chainsaw in the closet, and Moon makes his way up

1505
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.320
the steps as Molly comes in, handing the address over

1506
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:47.880
and she's like, you know, do you forget this? And

1507
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:49.760
he's like, the bitch didn't give it to us, and

1508
01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:51.599
also that they forgot the toolkit, so he has to

1509
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:52.480
still go inside the house.

1510
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:53.960
Whoops, whoopsie da.

1511
01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:56.559
So Doris hides the bathroom, which behind her we see

1512
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:59.800
a very bloody bathtub. She hears Moon inside the apartment,

1513
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.840
hears him leave, and she thinks safe when suddenly Molly

1514
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:05.280
pulls back the curtain, stabbing Doris in the stomach. She

1515
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:07.639
pushes her off and runs, but Molly tackles her onto

1516
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.079
the bed, hitting her with the shoe and going to run,

1517
01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:12.960
but Molly then gets a slash on her thigh. Cervix

1518
01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.480
then asks Monica if he's seen Doris as she reaches

1519
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:18.119
the door. We see Doris right outside the door threshold,

1520
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:21.400
seeing the doctor asking about her, but Molly handgags her,

1521
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:23.800
dragging her back inside, murdering her right there.

1522
01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:27.199
Yeah, like it's nothing. And that's the scariest part is

1523
01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:29.639
just they kill like he even says the boy, it's

1524
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:32.599
just like breathing. Yeah, And that's the way it is shown.

1525
01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:34.760
I mean, he is literally five hundred feet from her

1526
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:37.400
as her the secretary just gets stabbed and then pulled

1527
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:40.320
back inside. So that night, we see Moon and Hawkins

1528
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:42.760
and Molly outside the apartment. As Hawkins tells Moon there's

1529
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.159
nothing to worry about since she's spread into the field

1530
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.159
now the buzzles will get to her. Moon states he's

1531
01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:50.159
still gonna be gone and he might be back in

1532
01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:52.639
a few months, before driving off, leaving Molly and Hawkins.

1533
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:55.039
The next morning, Kriviks goes on it to over a

1534
01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:57.360
task list before Monica goes out, telling him that there's

1535
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:00.039
an emergency. Crytics goes to leave, telling Molly that she

1536
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:03.000
shouldn't be outside dressed like this, and that's when he leaves,

1537
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:05.719
and Hawkins looks over at Monica before she goes inside.

1538
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:08.360
We see Monica getting ready for a shower as Hawkins

1539
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:11.320
has entered the house secretly. Now he watches her undress

1540
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:13.159
and he gets and watches her get into the shower.

1541
01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.720
Approaching the bathroom, slowly, a shadow appears outside the frosted

1542
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:19.439
glass door, as Monica takes no notice. She continues the shower.

1543
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:21.840
She finishes, opening the door and we see no one

1544
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:24.039
is now standing in front of it. She gets dressed

1545
01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:27.239
and wanders the apartment, uneasy because she realizes that somebody's inside,

1546
01:08:27.239 --> 01:08:28.479
and she feels like she's being watched.

1547
01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:32.119
Well, and it's so important to point out that the

1548
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:35.479
first two acts of this movie have been so violent

1549
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:41.319
and disgusting and obscene in like every way. Yeah, now

1550
01:08:41.439 --> 01:08:43.720
as we're watching her like take a shower and wonder

1551
01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:48.880
if somebody's watching her, we all know the monsters that

1552
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:52.600
are right there. Yeah, she has zero clue, no idea,

1553
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:55.439
and it really gets your stomach churning a little bit.

1554
01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:57.920
Suddenly a cop knocks on the door, asking if he

1555
01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:00.760
can speak to her about Doris's disappearance. Explains he wants

1556
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.279
to speak with Molly and Hawkins, but she and she

1557
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:05.319
says that's fine, So she goes into the garage to

1558
01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:07.560
get into her car and leave. That's when Hawkins ambushes her,

1559
01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.279
but Monica breaks free, running back to the cop speaking

1560
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:13.319
to Molly. Monica reaches the cop, but Molly shoots the

1561
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:16.560
cop dead. Hawkins grabs Monica and Molly tries to intervene,

1562
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:20.560
angrily cutting Hawkins, who wastes no time shooting Molly three times,

1563
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:22.159
killing her.

1564
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:34.039
Do You Even? Movie will be right back, Welcome back

1565
01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:35.319
to Do You Even?

1566
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:44.239
Movie? Yeah, So this is a part that on a rewatch,

1567
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:49.600
really hit me hard. She literally she accidentally cuts his arm.

1568
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:52.079
Yeah, because she she I don't know if she's jealous

1569
01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:54.359
of him touching Monica, but.

1570
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:56.279
It was more. I mean, there was a struggle going

1571
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:58.560
on and she cuts the side of his arm just

1572
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:00.720
a bit. Yeah, And the moment she she goes, I'm

1573
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:04.640
so sorry, and he just reflects he shoots her three times,

1574
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:06.399
and then after she's on the gun and he shoots

1575
01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:06.880
her one more.

1576
01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:07.760
Yeah.

1577
01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:10.760
Like it. That is one of those moments that just

1578
01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:14.199
jaw drop. She was the most important person in the

1579
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:18.840
world game and on a spur of the moment, Annoyance dead.

1580
01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:21.159
No problem, don't worry, We'll hear him explain it in

1581
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:21.560
a second.

1582
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:23.960
Oh, thank good and luckily he has a he has

1583
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.760
quite a bit of kind words about the whole situation,

1584
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:28.520
Thank goodness.

1585
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:30.760
Monica takes off running for the woods, grabbing a log

1586
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:32.640
as Hawkins comes up behind her she gets a good

1587
01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:34.720
hit with it, knocking him to the ground. She runs

1588
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:36.840
farther away into the woods and he catches up with her,

1589
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:38.880
but she shoves him over a log which also has

1590
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.279
barbed wire wrapped around it, so he gets wrapped in

1591
01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:43.239
the wire. She runs back to the garage, trying to

1592
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.600
find the keys for her car, but she finds no keys,

1593
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:46.920
and that's when the camera shows that here on the

1594
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:49.159
other side where she was not at, so she runs

1595
01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:50.520
out of the garage as we see the keys on

1596
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:52.199
the other side of the car. She runs to the

1597
01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:54.279
police car, finding no keys in the ignition, and then

1598
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:56.399
runs over to the cop, checking his body and retrieving

1599
01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:58.439
the keys. She gets back into the car, putting the

1600
01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:01.199
keys into the ignition, but Hawkins pops out of the backseat,

1601
01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:04.079
grabbing onto her, and drags Monica off to the apartment.

1602
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:07.479
Later that night, Hawkins is back on the interstate driving

1603
01:11:07.479 --> 01:11:10.079
when a cop pulls him over. Hawkins quickly hides a

1604
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:12.119
gun next to him in the seat and pulls over,

1605
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:14.239
and the cop gets out, approaching the car, asking him

1606
01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:16.239
for his driver's license, which Hawkins states that he does

1607
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:18.680
not have, reaching for the gun, but then another cop

1608
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:20.359
comes along the other side of the car telling him

1609
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:20.880
to freeze.

1610
01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:23.560
Great, fake out because he thinks the cop doesn't have

1611
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:26.199
a partner. Yeah, and the partner just pops up, What's

1612
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:27.640
where'd your hand go on there? And he's like to

1613
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:29.560
get my wallet? Yeah. Yeah, So they.

1614
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:30.800
Have him step out of the car and make their

1615
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:32.600
way to the back of the trunk, popping the trunk

1616
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:34.920
to find a bag of clothes, and then they find

1617
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:37.920
a bloody machete next to a burlap sack, which they

1618
01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:40.199
open to find Molly's head right on top.

1619
01:11:40.439 --> 01:11:43.279
Well, we could explain, yeah, yeah.

1620
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:45.479
So that's what we cut back to the interrogation as

1621
01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:48.520
dear listeners the final lines of the movie, as Hawkins

1622
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:50.760
states he didn't mean to kill Molly and he actually

1623
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.479
felt bad for Moon about it, before asking Hey, do

1624
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:57.840
you think I could get another chocolate shake? Credits?

1625
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:00.159
Yeah, yeah, he just says it. So he's like, I

1626
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.079
felt bad about it, felt bad for Moon about it.

1627
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:04.000
I really didn't mean, I didn't want to kill her,

1628
01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:06.760
you all, I think I can get another shake, and

1629
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:11.199
and that's it. The movie's over. Yeah, And that's possibly

1630
01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:14.279
one of my favorite moments, is just the fact that

1631
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:18.279
we've now we've heard a bunch of his you know, escapades,

1632
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:21.520
We've now found out how he got captured, and now

1633
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:23.720
we're seeing the reality is. Yeah, he's just sitting in

1634
01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:25.520
a room. Tell him this stuff. Yeah, and he all

1635
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:27.920
he wants in the world is another chocolate.

1636
01:12:28.680 --> 01:12:31.359
Yeah. I mean, that is absolutely confessions of a serial

1637
01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:32.119
killer right there.

1638
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.960
Yeah. Yeah, And I find that ending far more chilling

1639
01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:38.119
than as much as I love Henry. The suitcase reveal

1640
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:43.000
case is horrible and it is sad, but I don't

1641
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:44.800
find that nearly as chilling. I mean, I mean the

1642
01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:46.880
reveal that Henry just like when he realized that this

1643
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:48.520
was getting too complicated, he kills her.

1644
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.159
Sure, I mean, given Henry does not, we don't see

1645
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:53.279
Henry kill her. That's that's that's the big surprise at

1646
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:55.159
the end of Henry is the you know, they kill

1647
01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:56.840
Otis and he's like, we got to get out of here,

1648
01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:58.479
and they're leaving together, they're driving in the night, and

1649
01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:00.239
she's like you know, what are we gonna do? And

1650
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:01.680
he's like, you know, go ahead and sleep it off.

1651
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:03.199
And they're in the hotel and then he walks out

1652
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:05.560
the next morning, just him with a very heavy suitcase.

1653
01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:06.880
Yeah, and he leaves the suitcase in.

1654
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:08.439
The inside of the road and then drives away.

1655
01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:11.399
And I get that. But that's kind of why I

1656
01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:13.920
think this movie sticks out to me as being scarier

1657
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:18.760
in many ways than Henry is the amount of indifference

1658
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:22.720
that not only the killer gives, but almost that the

1659
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:26.359
film gives. There isn't some big build up and he

1660
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:30.720
kills his child bride. She accidentally cut his arm and

1661
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:34.720
he's just like shoots her dead and that's that's it.

1662
01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:38.079
It's just that that is so much scarier to me.

1663
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:39.840
But I mean, and Burns, as we said, is the

1664
01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:43.000
is the absolute performer in this movie, which makes it work.

1665
01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:44.960
But I mean, I think what I also love about

1666
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.239
this is just you get you get a straight up

1667
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:51.319
horror film that is not fun because it shouldn't be.

1668
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:53.239
I mean, a movie like this should not be fun.

1669
01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:55.439
And that's you know, as somebody who's a huge slasher fan,

1670
01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:58.520
it's kind of refreshing to have that. Oh I'm not

1671
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:01.319
desensitized like this movie with me, Yeah.

1672
01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:04.239
Because it just hands you the reality and not much else.

1673
01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:07.319
There's not a lot of artful moments. There's not all.

1674
01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:09.880
It's just scene after scene after scene.

1675
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:12.039
Well, it's like you mentioned, you know, we unfortunately lost

1676
01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:14.159
David Lynch this past week, and you mentioned that, like

1677
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:16.079
the driving scenes in this are very lynching in but

1678
01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:18.000
probably not by means.

1679
01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:21.000
When he's sitting in the car driving, the car is

1680
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:24.600
actually in motion. Yeah, they're they're clearly filming from a

1681
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:27.560
like a pickup truck or something. Him driving, but it's

1682
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:30.359
the middle of the night and he's almost floating because

1683
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:32.600
there's a light inside the car on him, yeah, and

1684
01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:34.560
nothing else. And I do think the reason it looks

1685
01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:36.760
so much like a David Lynch kind of like floating

1686
01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:40.319
driving thing is simply that they couldn't light the highway.

1687
01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:42.760
Maybe they had no money to light stuff more so,

1688
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:46.359
but it really creates this eeriness that the highway is

1689
01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:50.640
just a big dark expanse where you never know what

1690
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:53.600
you might find or what might find you you.

1691
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:56.399
Yeah, yes, So would you like to know some interesting

1692
01:14:56.439 --> 01:14:57.279
things about the film.

1693
01:14:57.520 --> 01:14:58.920
I would love to so.

1694
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:02.960
Unfortunately, budget information, box office information, naturally does not exist

1695
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:03.960
for this movie, unfortunately.

1696
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:06.840
Yeah, they didn't suggest anything in the commentary. Really, I mean,

1697
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:09.079
if I had to guess, unless you already have a

1698
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:11.359
guess anything, If I had to guess this was a

1699
01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:15.479
one hundred thousand to two hundred thousand dollars budget movie.

1700
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:19.000
I really can't imagine a little Texas indy because it's

1701
01:15:19.039 --> 01:15:22.239
important to remember, like when we covered Scary Movie, Austin

1702
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:25.800
was still a towel. It wasn't a big deal like

1703
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:28.720
it is now. So this little indie movie in eighty

1704
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:31.920
five shot in and around Austin, I just can't imagine

1705
01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:33.720
them being able to get more than maybe one hundred

1706
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:37.359
or two hundred grand to do it because and a

1707
01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:39.520
lot of those movies that was the budget range back then,

1708
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:41.640
I mean Reanimator was like two hundred and fifty grand. Yeah,

1709
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:43.039
and then that was a similar time period.

1710
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:45.720
So anyway, So, according to director Mark Blair, shooting the

1711
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:48.079
opening scene involving the pickup of the woman broken down

1712
01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:49.880
on the side of the road was a crazy shoot

1713
01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:51.680
due to the fact in order for a new take

1714
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:54.079
to begin, the car had to speed eighty mile per

1715
01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:57.159
hour back down the road to the starting position. So

1716
01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:59.680
that involved leaving multiple crew members to scramble back to

1717
01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:03.159
their spot, as well as camera assistant as well. Camera

1718
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:05.560
assistant John Charon at one point actually called for an

1719
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:07.720
emergency stop on the road due to the chaos of

1720
01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:08.279
a reset.

1721
01:16:08.720 --> 01:16:10.479
Jesus, that's nuts.

1722
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:12.840
Lane Fraser, who plays the straighted Motorists at the beginning

1723
01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:14.840
of the film, was a college friend of Sidney Brammer,

1724
01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:16.880
who plays Molly in the film. They were both freshmen

1725
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:19.239
to the University of Texas Drama department, where Robert A.

1726
01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:20.560
Burns was also in attendance.

1727
01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:22.159
Oh okay okay.

1728
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:25.199
Burns originally signed onto the film as just the art director,

1729
01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:27.279
but when the original lead dropped out due to a

1730
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:30.319
higher paying gig, Mark Blair looked out the back to

1731
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:33.039
see Burns splashing blood on women, which would be shots

1732
01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:35.479
used for the polaroids in the film. Blair, along with

1733
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:38.640
other producers, watch Burns splash blood, laugh like a madman,

1734
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:44.079
and Blair spoke up, there's our Daniel Ray Hawkins. Due

1735
01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:45.800
to the tight shooting schedule, most of the night of

1736
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:47.680
serious scenes were done back to back.

1737
01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:52.359
Wow, yeah, I mean I could see that. Yeah, late nights.

1738
01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:55.359
The Confessons of a Serial Killer soundtrack was released overseas

1739
01:16:55.399 --> 01:16:58.319
and actually charted a top ten in Belgium. The soundtrack

1740
01:16:58.359 --> 01:16:59.960
done by the great composer William Penn.

1741
01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:01.800
Oh. Yeah.

1742
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:05.039
Burns designed the interrogation room inside an arts studio on

1743
01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:07.720
Fifth Street in Austin, Texas. The building also served as

1744
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:10.119
location for the Rat Party when filming had concluded.

1745
01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:13.039
It is worth benching. We didn't mention. Robert Burns was

1746
01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:15.800
also the production designer on the film Yeah so he

1747
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:16.720
was Yeah.

1748
01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:19.680
The independently made film was picked up for wider distribution

1749
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:22.119
by Roger Corman due to its similarities with Henry Ports

1750
01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:24.439
of a Serial Killer. In nineteen eighty six, Corman decided

1751
01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:26.840
to delay the film's American release, though it apparently did

1752
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:29.640
quite well in overseas markets. When the film finally got

1753
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:32.159
a wider release in home country, it was marketed as

1754
01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:34.840
a knockoff silence of the Lambs, hence the Hannibal Lecter

1755
01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:37.479
esque mask on the cover. Due to the graphic content

1756
01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:40.439
in the film, mainstream video rental stores refused to carry

1757
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:43.199
the uncut version. The film then fell into obscurity for

1758
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:45.479
many years until its creator regained its rights and gave

1759
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:46.600
it a remastered release.

1760
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:49.319
Yeah which took a long time, and they'd been teasing

1761
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:53.199
for a very long time that it was coming back finally. Honestly,

1762
01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:55.359
by the time it did, I had already kind of

1763
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:57.560
accepted it wasn't going the same. Yeah.

1764
01:17:57.600 --> 01:17:59.239
The bulk of the cast was made up of people

1765
01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:02.560
who primarily in theater productions. Berkeley Garrett had a lot

1766
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:06.000
of difficulty remembering the dialogue in the film, or his dialogue,

1767
01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:08.680
and the film received its first ever theatrical screening at

1768
01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:11.600
a twenty seventeen Austin Film Festival with several cast and

1769
01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:13.039
crew members in attendance.

1770
01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:15.159
That must have been incredible, I can imagine.

1771
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:18.359
Yeah, So, what are your final thoughts on Confessions of

1772
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:19.119
a Serial Killer?

1773
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:21.279
You know, as much as I want to say, you

1774
01:18:21.359 --> 01:18:23.560
have to own it, because to me, I have to

1775
01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:28.880
own it. If you consider yourself the horror officionado, you

1776
01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:31.920
have to rent it. You have to see it, experience it.

1777
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:37.319
See how you feel about this version of the Henry

1778
01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:40.560
Lee Lucas story, which was made pretty much in tandem. Yeah,

1779
01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:43.039
with Henry Portrait of Sioco. I really think Henry started

1780
01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:43.600
a year later.

1781
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:44.239
I think it did.

1782
01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:47.840
Yeah, so, but they, I mean, in the eighties being Texas.

1783
01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:50.199
In Chicago, they were like a world apart. But I

1784
01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:52.640
think that it's a movie you really need to watch

1785
01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:55.880
and experience. It's also really interesting that Corman's studio picked

1786
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:57.159
it up. They were not picking up a lot of

1787
01:18:57.159 --> 01:18:59.640
films back then, but they did snap that one up.

1788
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:03.439
So I think it's really worth watching. And I hope

1789
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:07.520
that thanks to it being proliferated around, yeah, it's finally

1790
01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:09.680
going to get a lot more of the do it deserves.

1791
01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:13.199
I do wish it'd have gotten like a fatter, bigger

1792
01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:16.920
special edition. I wish somebody likes terror Vision or somebody

1793
01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:20.239
had picked it up and really went ape. But I'm

1794
01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:21.119
so happy it's here.

1795
01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:24.039
I'm thrilled. Yeah, it's an absolute rennit for me as well.

1796
01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:26.479
I think it is worth a watch just to see

1797
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:29.079
Burns performance alone in it. But you know, it goes

1798
01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:31.199
to that saying that this is a very disturbing film.

1799
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:34.319
I mean it has to be with what it's about obviously. Yeah,

1800
01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:35.880
and you know, if it's not your cup of tea,

1801
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:37.520
completely understand it. If you just want to listen to

1802
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:40.159
us recap it, that's great. But if you are a

1803
01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:43.279
horror fistinado, if you are a fan of the true

1804
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:46.319
crime documentaries or the true crime films. This is definitely

1805
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:49.159
one that you cannot leave unwatched. I mean it is

1806
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:51.520
I would call it a masterpiece.

1807
01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:53.560
And it will not leave you unwashed. So it will

1808
01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:55.880
need to shower when the film is over.

1809
01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:57.920
So, speaking of more films to get under your skin,

1810
01:19:57.920 --> 01:19:59.119
we always like the end to show with a couple

1811
01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:02.399
of recommendations. My first one this week is nineteen seventy

1812
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:04.399
six is the Town That Dreaded Sundown.

1813
01:20:04.119 --> 01:20:08.520
Currently available Interesting Pick Texas wells texts arcana. So some

1814
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:10.279
of it's in Texas, some of it's a arcana, some

1815
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:11.760
is the Louisiana.

1816
01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:14.600
Currently available on TV and Pluto TV. This is the

1817
01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:16.800
true story of a hooded mad Men's stocks, lovers lanes

1818
01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:19.199
and texts arcana in this fact based account of the

1819
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:20.680
nineteen forty six killing spree.

1820
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:23.239
Yeah from the director that you know was famous for

1821
01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:24.960
originally for the legend of Boggy Creek.

1822
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:28.560
That is correct. Yes. Second recommendation currently available on Max

1823
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:31.600
is nineteen ninety two's Man Bites Dog. A film crew

1824
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:33.720
follows a ruthless thief and his heartless killer as he

1825
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:36.560
goes about the daily routine but complication set in when

1826
01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:39.840
the film crew lose their objectivity and began lending a hand.

1827
01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:42.439
I mean, I love that movie, It's so good. But

1828
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:45.960
I gotta say I thought, I thought I knew roughly

1829
01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:47.720
what your picks would be, and they were not at

1830
01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:48.800
all what I was expecting.

1831
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:54.119
To go on, do You Even movie? Will be right back,

1832
01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:04.119
welcome back to Do You Even Movie?

1833
01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:11.880
Well, because I was coming racking my brain for what

1834
01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:15.279
my picks would be. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what

1835
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.359
my contenders were. Okay, I thought for sure you would

1836
01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:21.520
probably say Monster. I was thinking about it with Charlie

1837
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:23.800
Throne and that was Aleen Warnos.

1838
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:24.760
I was thinking about.

1839
01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:28.640
That one had a very similar, just grimy, feel great film.

1840
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:31.560
Then I thought, maybe you'd go with or I was

1841
01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:34.680
thinking of going with Iceman from twenty twelve with Michael Shannon.

1842
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:36.840
Shannon. Yeah, the Richard Kolenski story.

1843
01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:38.039
That's a hell of a film.

1844
01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:41.479
Even though that Kolinsky is one of those criminals that

1845
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:44.000
we again do not know how much is true.

1846
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:46.079
I believe that he hung out in gay clubs.

1847
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.279
I do believe that too. Yes, I do believe that too. Yes,

1848
01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:52.079
I actually read the book that Philip Karla did, which

1849
01:21:52.119 --> 01:21:54.000
is the guy that did the night Stalker book? Oh okay,

1850
01:21:54.039 --> 01:21:56.760
and yeah, I mean Kolinsky the story of Richard Kelensky.

1851
01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:59.119
From what is told in that book and what we

1852
01:21:59.159 --> 01:22:03.600
are to believe, the dude killed everybody apparently again, so

1853
01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:05.920
I mean he killed me, he killed you, he killed me?

1854
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:06.560
Fuck?

1855
01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:08.479
But no, Yeah, I spent's perfect.

1856
01:22:08.960 --> 01:22:12.039
That's a good one. But those aren't my recommendation. Yeah,

1857
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:14.199
those were ones I was considering, but I had I

1858
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:15.600
had like three in case you.

1859
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:18.199
Picked one of mine, what is yours mine?

1860
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:19.640
This is going to be a surprise, but it's a

1861
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:20.760
little bit more of a deep cut. But I was

1862
01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:24.520
trying to think of of a serial killer story like biopic.

1863
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:28.920
That really bothered me. So I went with twenty eleven's

1864
01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:33.800
The Snowtown Murders Movies, which is available on AMC Plus

1865
01:22:34.479 --> 01:22:35.960
or Amazon Prime to Rent.

1866
01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:38.000
Also has a blu ray from I want to say

1867
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:38.800
Vinegar Syndrome.

1868
01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:41.640
I think, well, it is a hell of a film.

1869
01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:44.880
It's based on an Australian case called the Snowtown Murders.

1870
01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:47.680
Based on true events. Sixteen year old Jamie falls In

1871
01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:50.279
falls in with his mother's new boyfriend and his crowd

1872
01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:53.600
of self appointed neighborhood watchman, a relationship that leads to

1873
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:55.439
a spree of torture and murder.

1874
01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:56.600
Very disturbing film.

1875
01:22:56.640 --> 01:23:00.880
When the whole part where he would make people say

1876
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:03.399
stuff on a tape recorder. Yeah, and then he would

1877
01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:06.000
call answering machines and so that no one would look

1878
01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:10.319
for you. Yeah, that alone scared the ever loving shit

1879
01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:13.239
out of me. Yeah. From twenty eleven, Snowtown Murders highly

1880
01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:16.920
recommend that if you need even more serial killer goodness

1881
01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:20.279
in your life, and who fucking doesn't.

1882
01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:24.319
Snowtown Murders line up something extremely light after I mean,

1883
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:25.800
as you will be Confessions of a serial killer for

1884
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:26.359
that matter.

1885
01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:30.239
Yeah, I mean yeah. The thing that Snowtown Murders has

1886
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:34.079
that I think would make it a little wouldn't make

1887
01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:36.960
it a terrible double feature, is that Snowtown Murders is

1888
01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:40.960
very polished. It's very it's a professional feature film. It's

1889
01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.359
an Australian movie, so it's got that little point of

1890
01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:44.800
separation for US Americans.

1891
01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:46.960
It's got that odd humor in it at times too.

1892
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:49.319
It does, so I think it's a good palate cleanser

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as opposed to like if you watched Confessions and then

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like Monster back to back. Yeah, that's a lot of

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sweaty murder.

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Yeah, a lot of sweaty murder.

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A lot a lot of sweaty murder. So yeah, those

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are my recommendations. And we do have one email last

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night checked, so let me pull that up. If you

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guys want to send us an email, you can do

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so at do you even movie pod at gmail dot com.

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We love to hear from you, and yeah, send us

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an email. Tell us something we should watch, something we

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should talk about, or something interesting, or ask us a question.

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As our good buddy Colin the young the young viewer

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it does not want to be fully named, but he

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did say, hey guys, it's Colin again, so hopefully that's okay.

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We say, hey guys, it's Colin again. I would like

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to know if you will review the movie the Visit.

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Thank you so much. I think we recommended the Visit

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to that would be an interesting one to cover. I

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believe that that was m Night Shyamalan's return to relevancy

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to great storytelling. I really think that was when that

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was because I remember I walked I saw that movie

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on my birthday. I had a big birthday movie Day,

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and when I walked out, I went Man Shamalan's kind

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of back and then I think you follow that was split,

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So then he was truly bad.

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Yeah, because then he did Glass and then Old was

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after that.

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Yeah, yeah, I think you're You're probably right for somebody's.

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Like Old messes with me big time.

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Oh Bobby Poor, are you over dirty? But he said

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one more thing. I saw your intro on YouTube. Please

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explain why the army and planes and things. I might

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be too young to understand, but it is quite confusing

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to me. So for those who are watching us on YouTube,

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you get a video version of our intro, and basically

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the reason there's all the stock footage of military planes

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and all this stuff that is because the music that

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we that we had created for the show has that

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big blockbuster movie voice over with the big like action

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movie music. So I thought it was funny to have

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it be about us. But then because of the music,

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try to make it the images match the musics, having

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like airplane flying and an explosion and stuff. It really,

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what it really comes down to is when I was

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editing our intro, all I knew was that I needed

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us in it. Briefly because it was introducing us and

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that was all I had to go with. Yeah, it

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was my concept to run with, so I just put

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that stuff in because it made me laugh. That's why

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the last shot is the rock up soccer robots fighting.

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I thought that was a really funny touch. So you

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may be a little young to remember the obscenely constant

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tent pole in a world where, but that's what we're referencing.

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It's just kind of a parody of like an epic

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movie trailer. Yeah, for lack of a better term.

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It is.

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It is pure fun. There's no rhyme or reason to

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do it. It's just pure fun exactly. So that is

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our email for this week.

1953
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Awesome. Would you like to know what we are talking

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about next week on the show. Fine, So we are

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wrapping up Cold Blood of January. This was of course,

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our conclusion to it, which means we're moving into February.

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And I can think of no better film than to

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kick off February than nineteen ninety three's ground the Hog's

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Day Again again, a currently available to rent or buy

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on Prime, Fandango and Apple. I mean, if you don't

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know Groundhog.

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Day, Groundhog Day is not streaming anywhere right now, damn.

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But I mean I'm sure it's probably on cable soon.

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Yeah. For Groundhog Day, well played?

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Yeah, yeah, you know.

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On that note, we're gonna get out of here, my friends.

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We're gonna go catch flight risk, Yes we are, but

1968
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please understand that I really do appreciate you tuning in.

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Dave not so much. If you email us at do

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you even MoviePod at gmail dot com, go to douevenmovie

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dot com for all the information about everything involving the program.

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You can also find us on YouTube. If you're on YouTube,

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please like share it. If you think you need to subscribe.

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If you're listening to us on a podcast, make sure

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you're subscribed on your favorite podcasting app. A couple of

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star ratings do make a big difference. We just appreciate

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you listening or watching. But now it's time for us

1978
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to get out of here. So there's only one thing

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left to say, and that is we will see you next.

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Just kidding, Can I get another chocolate? Jake? I knew

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you're gonna do that. He just didn't even care that

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she's dead. No,